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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for

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Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,

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Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt Podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyan, and this is episode number three

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Speaker 1: forty two. In the show, I am joined by professional archer,

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Speaker 1: Avid bow Hunter and YouTube phenomen Chris B to discuss

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Speaker 1: competitive archery, mental strength in the Moment of truth, and

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Speaker 1: epic road trip hunting. All right, welcome to the Wired

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Speaker 1: to Hunt podcast, brought to you by on X. Today,

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Speaker 1: we've got a fun show for you as I'm joined

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Speaker 1: by Chris B. Now, Chris is a fellow Michigander and

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Speaker 1: uh proud to say, a fellow Michigan State alum. And well,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if he's an a lumb yet, he's

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Speaker 1: a Michigan State attendee. Hand a guy that I started

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Speaker 1: taking notice of a few years ago through his popular

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Speaker 1: be Real YouTube channel where he showcases all sorts of

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Speaker 1: pretty epic hunting trips and archery videos and various other

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Speaker 1: fun antics. And he's doing a he's doing a very

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Speaker 1: good job with it. It's it's good stuff, it's fun stuff.

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Speaker 1: In addition to the hunting and shooting media he produces.

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Speaker 1: He's also a professional archer, having been a Vegas Shoot

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Speaker 1: finalist and having had multiple national and international podium finishes. So,

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Speaker 1: in short, the guy's a hell of a shot. He's

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Speaker 1: a bass to the wall hunter and a very good storyteller,

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Speaker 1: and that, in my mind, is the recipe for a

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Speaker 1: good chat. So today with Chris, we talked a little

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Speaker 1: bit about his competitive archer history and the ways that

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Speaker 1: shaped him as a hunter. We discussed some of the

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Speaker 1: lessons he's learned along the way about archery and competition

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Speaker 1: that have helped him perform in high pressure situations like hunting.

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Speaker 1: We dive into archery advice and practice regiments. We finally

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Speaker 1: spend a lot of time actually discussing his most recent

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Speaker 1: hunting season, which involved just it was an insane hunting season.

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Speaker 1: He had a d i y road trip to Alaska,

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Speaker 1: a three state tour across the West in a impressively

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Speaker 1: rigged camping van. He had more white tail hunts than

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Speaker 1: I think you can count on two hands, uh, And

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Speaker 1: across all that we touch on his favorite gear. We

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Speaker 1: talked about camping, food, hunting lessons learned, tips for planning, hunting,

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Speaker 1: road trips and a whole lot more so, that is

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Speaker 1: what we have in store for you. And during times

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Speaker 1: like these, while we're recording, which is in late March

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Speaker 1: mid the whole COVID nineteen pandemic, I think we need

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Speaker 1: conversations like this more than ever. You know. It's it's

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Speaker 1: one that's full optimism and fun and some escapism, and

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Speaker 1: it's just jam packed with something that we love so much,

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Speaker 1: which is hunting, and we need a little more of

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Speaker 1: that love and excitement right now, I think. So get

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Speaker 1: ready for an escape from the bad news and an

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Speaker 1: invitation to dream about your next hunting trip too. I

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Speaker 1: hope you enjoy it, and we'll talk to you soon.

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Speaker 1: All right, now, on the other side of the line

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Speaker 1: with me, I've got Chris B. Welcome to show. Chris,

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Speaker 1: thanks for having me Mark. Let's say it's exciting. I'm

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Speaker 1: excited to be talking on this. I've listened for a

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Speaker 1: long time. That's awesome, man. Well, thanks for listening and

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Speaker 1: for making the time um to do this. I guess

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Speaker 1: than usual since most people are on lockdown here at

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Speaker 1: home given the crazy things. Now you're you're in Michigan, right, Yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the same government stay at home shelter in place order,

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Speaker 1: So we were not even supposed to be going to

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Speaker 1: the pro shop, going to the hardware store, doing anything anymore. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Um I did really good at an event in Vegas.

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Speaker 1: you went to Michigan State yeah, and technically I'm still going.

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Speaker 1: Nice go grain man, that's my own model right there.

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Speaker 1: Really right on, I didn't know that. Yeah, I'm oh,

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Speaker 1: for one shot, but doing it for like ninety in

426
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:26,880
Speaker 1: a row. That's it gets it gets more difficult for sure. UM.

427
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,080
Speaker 1: So there's a there's a lot of things you can do. UM.

428
00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,840
Speaker 1: I think the most recently for me, like on a

429
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 1: personal level, has been, um being more intentional with my shooting.

430
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:44,360
Speaker 1: So instead of wishing for things to happen, you actually

431
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:48,119
Speaker 1: make them happen. So if you're sitting there aiming and

432
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 1: you have the pin in the middle, and you're just

433
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,439
Speaker 1: sitting there and you're like, Okay, I really hope this

434
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,639
Speaker 1: goes in the middle, and you're just like going through

435
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 1: your shot, and then the shot goes off and you're like, Okay,

436
00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:58,679
Speaker 1: did it go in the middle? You know, like that

437
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,720
Speaker 1: sort of thing. And instead what I've been trying to

438
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,159
Speaker 1: do is being way more intentional and being like, Okay,

439
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:05,880
Speaker 1: this is going to go right in the middle, put

440
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,200
Speaker 1: the pin on the middle, go through the shot. Yep,

441
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 1: that went in the middle. So it's like it's all

442
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 1: about mindset start to finish, from even walking in the

443
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,640
Speaker 1: door of the tournament. You know, if you if you

444
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 1: it's so sensitive archery so sensitive, if you like, if

445
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 1: you have the wrong mindset all the way through, it

446
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 1: just it just impacts you know your shot so much.

447
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:32,360
Speaker 1: So having a different mindset being more it's not necessarily confident,

448
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:34,880
Speaker 1: because I feel like you can have confidence but still

449
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:39,200
Speaker 1: have those hesitations throughout the shot, but um not having

450
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 1: hesitations throughout the shot. And I'm not talking about like punching,

451
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,120
Speaker 1: because there's a difference being intentional and being like okay,

452
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 1: right now, you know that's not what I'm talking about.

453
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 1: I'm talking about like very very slight um intentional shots

454
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 1: and and that kind of goes from I don't know

455
00:23:55,080 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 1: if you've heard of Joel um from Yeah, yeah, he's

456
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,920
Speaker 1: super at So me and him, me and him a

457
00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 1: couple of months ago got talking and and I've known

458
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,439
Speaker 1: of his stuff, but he really opened my eyes just

459
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 1: like a time in a conversation I was like, holy cow,

460
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,439
Speaker 1: you know what you're talking about? Like I know and

461
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 1: I'm aware of everything he's saying, but just like the

462
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 1: way he says it and just goes about it. It's like, jeez,

463
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 1: so I don't know. That's kind of where I'm at

464
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 1: um personally. But there's there's all sorts of things you

465
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:30,920
Speaker 1: know mentally that you can do. What what's something that

466
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,719
Speaker 1: throws off your mindset? Like have you had have you

467
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:36,919
Speaker 1: had an experience where you went into a tournament where hell,

468
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 1: even a hunt where you went in in your mind

469
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 1: just just wasn't right and you paid. Can you give

470
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 1: you an example, as someone next to you could just

471
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 1: be like, oh I just dropped a nine and you're

472
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 1: like crap, It's like am I gonna drop a nine

473
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:50,840
Speaker 1: in this one? Like that's all it takes. And then

474
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:54,640
Speaker 1: the entire time you can or you can't think about it.

475
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 1: It's all about how you deal with those type of

476
00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 1: how do you get that out of your head? Then

477
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 1: there's all sorts it's like, um, let's see okay, So

478
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 1: a book um from Lanny Bassam. It's called what Winning

479
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,879
Speaker 1: in Mind? He had a thing um where you have

480
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 1: to do a repetition of one thing and the only

481
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 1: thing about that one thing for like eight times in

482
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 1: a row. So like whatever it is, if you put

483
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:17,879
Speaker 1: your pocket if you put your hand in your pocket

484
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 1: and take it out for eight times in a row,

485
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 1: and then you only like you literally have your conscious

486
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 1: mind only thinking about that, and then when you're done

487
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 1: with that sequence, then you forgot whatever you were thinking about.

488
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,680
Speaker 1: There's things like that, or you just you know, you're

489
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 1: just confident with yourself and you'll be like, Okay, well

490
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 1: that guy at your shot nine, but I'm not gonna

491
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 1: shoot nine, and I'm just gonna shoot you know, my

492
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 1: shot or my arrow or or whatever. And that boils

493
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:48,720
Speaker 1: down to more of um. You can look at your

494
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:53,159
Speaker 1: scorecard um like all at once, like a big picture,

495
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 1: but what you really should be looking at and shooting

496
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 1: is one arrow at a time. So like every end

497
00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 1: of vidual arrow is its own and it has its

498
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 1: own value and its own score and its own shot,

499
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 1: and it's not a culmination of it all. So it's like, sure,

500
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 1: it could be a three hundred out of three hundred

501
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 1: at the end, but every single arrow has to score

502
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 1: at ten. So all you're in control of you're not

503
00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,679
Speaker 1: in control of the future like the next arrow, and

504
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 1: you're not in control of the last arrow you just shot,

505
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,199
Speaker 1: So all you all, you're in control of is this

506
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:29,199
Speaker 1: one arrow right now? So just shoot a ten, Just

507
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,040
Speaker 1: shoot the perfect shot, and then worry about the next one.

508
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 1: So when you boil it, when you boil it down,

509
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 1: you know, micro like that. It helps a lot too.

510
00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,159
Speaker 1: Easier said than done, though, I bet so much. I

511
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 1: wish I could just go up to the line and

512
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 1: be like, all right, you shoot three and then to

513
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 1: shoot it, you know, but you can't do that, So

514
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 1: so walk me through. Let's say you've shot your second

515
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,919
Speaker 1: to last shot and it's good, Everything is perfect as

516
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 1: it could be. Now you get your last air of

517
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 1: the tournament. It's the it's the big Vegas shoot. I saw.

518
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know I've anything you did, but

519
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 1: I saw you were a little bit, maybe a little

520
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 1: frustrated with how things ended up this past year in Vegas.

521
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 1: Is that right? Yeah? Well I dropped too, and you

522
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 1: drop one and you're done. Okay. So let's say it's

523
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: it's this coming this next season. You're in Vegas again.

524
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 1: You've done it perfect. Now you've got your last arrow.

525
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: Uh you you step up to the line. Walk me

526
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 1: through exactly what you do, exactly what yourself talk is.

527
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 1: I want to know the exact process you're gonna follow

528
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,679
Speaker 1: on your final perfect shot to to finally do what

529
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 1: you want to do. Okay, so last year was actually

530
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 1: not the hardest, but I will walk it through for

531
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 1: me at least, but I will walk you through it. Um,

532
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,919
Speaker 1: what is the hardest shot? Hard shots for me are

533
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: like the first ones? Well, would would you do anything

534
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,800
Speaker 1: different from the first to last? Given that scenarily you

535
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 1: don't do anything different. And that's the thing. You don't

536
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,159
Speaker 1: do anything different throughout the entire thing. Every single shots

537
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 1: exactly the same. And that's you know, it's all about repetition.

538
00:27:56,119 --> 00:28:00,160
Speaker 1: It's all about consistency. But there's also you know, every

539
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:01,919
Speaker 1: everyone has a different things. A lot of people like

540
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 1: say things in their head as they shoot. But I mean,

541
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 1: I'll knock my arrow, I'll you know, get in my

542
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: pre draw, which is like knocking ero release, set everything up,

543
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,360
Speaker 1: and then you always, like I always look at the target,

544
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 1: you know, get essentially acquired with the target because there's

545
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 1: multiple um spots on your target. There's like a triangle

546
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 1: for vegas, so you have to you're not allowed to

547
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 1: shoot two arrows in the same target. So and we

548
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 1: all we always shoot in the same order, like every

549
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: archer has their own order, so we're we're always pretty

550
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,679
Speaker 1: good at that. UM. But now and again people shoot

551
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: like the neighbor's target or the one above them. So

552
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,479
Speaker 1: you always want to acquire your target, like you always

553
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:43,240
Speaker 1: lock lock on on your target. So pre draw, you

554
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 1: get set up, you drop back, and then you always

555
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 1: want to make sure you're going going into your shot

556
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 1: either um saying the repetition you know, sound or sequence

557
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 1: that you do once you get a full draw, or

558
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 1: like a blank mind or something positive. You never want

559
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 1: to you like, go in it with nothingness because when

560
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: your when your mind is not thinking about anything and

561
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: it's blank, it's super easy to bring in external sources

562
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 1: and you don't get thinking about something bad. Um. So yeah,

563
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 1: you go into that sequence and it's changed a lot

564
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: lately because I've been messing around that. But I've counted

565
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 1: you know, one, two, three, boom, and then you know,

566
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: shot goes off. You know, I've saying a song I've saying,

567
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 1: I've said, Um, there was a little phrase I was saying.

568
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 1: I forget what it is. It was a while ago,

569
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 1: but it was like one perfect shot, one perfect shot,

570
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 1: or you can say, okay, I'm gonna do this right now,

571
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 1: and then you draw out the last word until it

572
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 1: goes off. So it doesn't there's no right or wrong

573
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 1: with that. It's just like you should have some sort

574
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 1: of sequence when you're shooting, or you're gonna you're just

575
00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 1: gonna get um you're more um favorable to have, like

576
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: you know, external things bothering you. Um So anyways, Yeah,

577
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 1: shot goes off and then you're good. But what happens

578
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 1: a lot of times is when you're under that stress,

579
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 1: your shots go a long, so you hold longer than normal,

580
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: and then you get under fatigue and you start getting

581
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: stressed and then shots go off and those are normally

582
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 1: the bad ones. So making sure your shot timing is

583
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 1: like relatively the same under those pressure situations is super important.

584
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 1: So you're those shots are holding longer just because you're

585
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: trying to be extra careful to make sure you're aiming

586
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 1: right or Yeah, the problem with archie if you try

587
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: too hard, you're gonna fail, right. That is so like

588
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 1: this weird fine line between being you can't be a

589
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 1: try hard But you also said like you want to

590
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: be intentional with it. You want to like you know,

591
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 1: as Joel Turner talks about you need to have a process,

592
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 1: you have to have you know, you have to be

593
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 1: in control of the whole shot sequence, but at the

594
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 1: same time, you also kind of want to be like

595
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 1: second nature almost like it's it's like you want to

596
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: be an autopilot, but you want to be in control.

597
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 1: And it's somewhere in between. That's the perfect place. But

598
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 1: it's really hard to put your finger on it. Um. Yeah,

599
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I'm I'm wanting I'm wanting you

600
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: to give me a secret weapon for this. There is

601
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 1: no secret weapon. That's the thing. I'm trying to figure

602
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: it out. You know, I'm still trying to figure it out.

603
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 1: I don't know what there is. It's just like you

604
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 1: just gotta keep going at it. And the more you're

605
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: exposed to it, the east you're eight kids. How much

606
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 1: of this translates over to your hunts? When you like

607
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 1: the things, you're working to get your mind right for

608
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 1: your tournaments, how much does that translate to your hunts? Um,

609
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: it carries over pretty easy. I actually don't. Um, I

610
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 1: got practice with my hunting bone and get everything dialed in,

611
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: but I don't I don't necessarily like train with my

612
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 1: hunting though, I guess, um. And then when it comes

613
00:31:56,960 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: to like shooting a deer or something, that's pretty much

614
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 1: little pilot. I don't have like a certain um formula,

615
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: I guess um. One thing that I have always done

616
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: over the years is make sure to like, um aim,

617
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: like pick your spot, because I've been, you know, my

618
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: younger years known to like put all of the pins

619
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 1: on the deer and shoot. That's why I shoot a

620
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: single pin now. Um. So yeah, aiming is very critical

621
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,479
Speaker 1: because sometimes when you're just so jacked up, you just

622
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: kind of like shoot at the deer. So when I

623
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: when I draw back, I aim like a very critical

624
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: at Okay, I'm gonna hit the deer right here and

625
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: then shoot. And then you know most of the time

626
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: that that works out unless external and I mean like

627
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: this year I did have I wounded. I hit a

628
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 1: deer in the shoulder. Um, I hit a deer high, skimmed,

629
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: skimmed its back, So like it does happen. Um, it's

630
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 1: just the fact of hunting. You know, it's you're dealing

631
00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 1: with a live animal. But um, how do you handle

632
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 1: the situation like that? Do you being coming from the

633
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 1: level of archery, experience and and and knowledge that you

634
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 1: have when you have a bad shot or when you

635
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 1: have a whatever was that happened? Like that wounded deer.

636
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 1: Do you have some like hyper analysis you do when

637
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 1: you're trying to figure out what do they do wrong?

638
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: In my process? Or most of the time, most of

639
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: the time I do know, Like I know what happened

640
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: for both of them. What happened. So the one dude

641
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 1: I hit in the shoulder, um, he was super alert

642
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: and it was sixty five yards, and I said, I'm

643
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: gonna hug the shoulder a bunch because I felt like

644
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 1: he was just going to run rather than duck. I

645
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: don't know why I thought that, but I was like,

646
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna like hug the shoulder pretty tight. And

647
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 1: I hit right where I was aiming because he didn't move,

648
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 1: So I was like, gosh, dang it. So that that

649
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 1: was it. I don't know why I thought of that.

650
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: Right when I drew back, I was like, all right,

651
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 1: put it like right close to shoulder. Um. And then

652
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 1: the other I'm as a mule deer at seventy four

653
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: and that one I think was just a misrange because

654
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: he was um. There was a couple of branches like

655
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 1: right close to him and around him. So I really

656
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: think that I just ranged one of those branches and

657
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: it's just a total misrange because the left and right

658
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: was pretty good. Do you like after this happens, Yeah,

659
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:28,880
Speaker 1: take a shot of deer. You're trying to recover it.

660
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 1: You don't find it. It's the worst moment for any

661
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 1: hunter just about. All right, I know that feeling unfortunately too. Um,

662
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: how do you personally deal with it? Is it? Is

663
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 1: it literally the next day or that day you're sitting

664
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 1: and stewing on this stuff you just told me? Or so,

665
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 1: Like Wyoming was the the shoulder shot one and it

666
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,760
Speaker 1: was like a one fifty white tail, like the biggest

667
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: white tail I would have killed. And we're sitting on

668
00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: this edge of a of a alfalfa field and uh,

669
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 1: it's super cool terrain out there. It's like mountains. This

670
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: is like meal deer country, and then in the bottoms

671
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: was white tail country. So we're sitting sitting on the

672
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 1: edge just like watching this field and it's like it's

673
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 1: getting twilight, you know, it's like twenty minutes left of

674
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 1: shooting light, and this buck pops out like four yards away,

675
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 1: So we all look at each other and we're like,

676
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 1: we gotta go. So we ran like a mile. It

677
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: was at least a mile in this ditch. Like we

678
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: ran probably like in fifteen minutes, you know, all the

679
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,800
Speaker 1: way around and luckily there was this ditch all the

680
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: way around this field, and we got to the point

681
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:40,879
Speaker 1: where like we popped up. We popped up a couple

682
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,759
Speaker 1: of times, but we got to the point where he

683
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,439
Speaker 1: was and we popped up and he was right there

684
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 1: at you know whatever. I think it was sixty I

685
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 1: forget it's in the video, but arranged it, drew back,

686
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 1: stood up, and he was just looking at me and

687
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: I shot um. So, yeah, that eat me up a

688
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:02,920
Speaker 1: lot because I hit him the shoulder. We went and

689
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 1: found the arrow. There was like zero penetration um, which

690
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 1: pros and cons of expandable broadheads. I was shooting expandable

691
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 1: broadhead with pounds and a five fifty graine arrow, and

692
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 1: I had a half inch of penetration. Yeah. So we

693
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: followed blood for three d yards and he started doing

694
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: circles and we were pretty sure we were like following

695
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 1: him around. But the problem is that we had a schedule,

696
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: so we had to go to Nebraska the next day,

697
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 1: like like the next day or no, We're going to

698
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 1: drive through the night and get there in the morning.

699
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: That's what we're gonna do. So we decided shoulder shot,

700
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:41,879
Speaker 1: he's probably going to live and be all right. So

701
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 1: we backed out. Well, we ended up finishing our Western

702
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: tour like a half a day early, and we were

703
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 1: only like eight hours away from Wyoming still, so we

704
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 1: actually drove all the way back to Wyoming and we

705
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: looked for another half day and we didn't find anything.

706
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: No more blood, no more no more anything. But we

707
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 1: went We spent an extra eight hours of driving to

708
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 1: go back to look just for you know, for my

709
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 1: mind really, because my mind was just thinking the entire

710
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: time in the next two states. So, yeah, that's good.

711
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: That's hard to that's just that's never easy no matter

712
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 1: way anyway look at it. Yeah, especially when it was

713
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 1: my fault for like, you know, if I do it

714
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 1: was aiming two inches further back, it would be dead,

715
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 1: do you do you I know, like talking to other

716
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 1: buddies or even in my own situation, I've I've dealt

717
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: with this a little bit differently in different cases. There's

718
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: there was one time I hit a deer and wounded it,

719
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 1: and search and search never could recover him. And it

720
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: like just took the wind out of my sales and

721
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: I didn't want to hunt for like a week. I

722
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: was just like, I don't even know if I want

723
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,839
Speaker 1: to keep going, and just like just took me out

724
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 1: of the game. And then there's another time depressed. Can

725
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:57,879
Speaker 1: it really can? But then if at other times where

726
00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: I thought, you know what, you just have to get

727
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 1: right back on the horror and go out the next

728
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 1: day and pound your boat, just like shoot your ball, bunch,

729
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 1: make sure your confidence is there, and then get right

730
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: back after it. U what what have you found to

731
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: be what works well for you? If you have a

732
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 1: miss or or a bad shot, do you want to

733
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 1: get right back after it? Do you step away? Usually?

734
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 1: What's how do you get your mind right after that

735
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: kind of a failure. I guess you could call it.

736
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: The past couple of years, I really haven't had a

737
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: choice to step away, Like I've always had trips planned

738
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 1: or was on a trip or you know, so it's

739
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 1: like you can't really take a break, you know. So

740
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 1: my go to I I always shoot right after like

741
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: a bunch, make sure everything's dialed in, and once I know,

742
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,479
Speaker 1: like everything's dialed in and that it was like either

743
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: my fault or an external factor. Like as long as

744
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: I know what happened, I'm okay. Like as long as

745
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 1: I know, like the deer's gonna live and I know

746
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: what happened, then I'm fine. I probably I have no

747
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 1: idea what happened, or it's like I was having a

748
00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 1: mental breakdown and like punch a trigger. That's no point though, Um,

749
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: Luckily I've never really had to deal with that, um

750
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: like hunting, punching the trigger, target panic type stuff, so

751
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 1: I've always been able to figure out the problem and

752
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 1: assess it. Have you ever had that problem in tournament scenarios?

753
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: Target panic or anything like that? So there's different forms

754
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,399
Speaker 1: of target panic. There's like legit you can't even aim

755
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 1: on the target and you gotta like swing into it

756
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: and punch a trigger, which is like very common, like

757
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 1: you hang high and then you swing down and shoot

758
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 1: into it. And then there's like performance target panic where

759
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: you you can't aim quite at the middle, but you

760
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 1: can aim like a half inch or an inch below it,

761
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: no problem. And when you say you can't aim it that,

762
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: do you mean you just get kind of stuck there.

763
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 1: Get stuck. Yeah, you can't like but but in practice,

764
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,840
Speaker 1: so this happens a lot of tournament archers deal with this.

765
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 1: It's very very slight target panic that can be fixed,

766
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: you know, like in a weekend of training most of

767
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: the time. Um, but practice as you can aim the middle,

768
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 1: you can shoot in the middle, it doesn't matter, like

769
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 1: middle doesn't matter. Show up to a tournament, you hang

770
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:09,280
Speaker 1: an inch low because now you have this performance pressure

771
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: and you're like, you're scared of the middle. Essentially, you

772
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:15,280
Speaker 1: don't you don't want to perform. Well, you're telling yourself,

773
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna you know, you're scared of the performance.

774
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 1: You're scared of the first place trophy, you're scared of

775
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 1: the fans, you're scared of the check. Like, so you

776
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 1: just like hang an inch low and you just move

777
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 1: your site so you can do that. And so I've

778
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 1: experienced that before. Um, but I've never experienced like just

779
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 1: crazy target panic. Luckily, now back on that, I'm kind

780
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: of jumping around here, but you keep on popping these

781
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: different ideas in my mind. So back on the tournament side,

782
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 1: you describe that performance anxiety of sorts that you've you've

783
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 1: had maybe a little bit of at times, what do

784
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: you think is And maybe you don't know, but if

785
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,280
Speaker 1: you if someone had a gun to your head and said, hey, Chris,

786
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: what is the hurdle that you need to get over

787
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: to to take this thing to the next level to

788
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,120
Speaker 1: get where you want to be? What's the one thing

789
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 1: like you've got a crush or the one thing that

790
00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 1: you've got to fix or what's holding you back? I

791
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 1: think it's time. We've had many, many late night tournament

792
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: over a glass of line conversations on this, like probably

793
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: too many to think of, and um, you always when

794
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 1: you want to analyze it, every major pro most there

795
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: are some like wonder childs, but most of the major

796
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:39,359
Speaker 1: pros um rise right around twenty seven to thirty years old.

797
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 1: And in life, most of the time right around that age,

798
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 1: you either um, you're done with college, you may or

799
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 1: may not be married, but most of the time you're

800
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: like in some sort of like solid relationship, you have

801
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: some sort of solid income, and you have your life

802
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:00,879
Speaker 1: a little bit more figured out. So in that part

803
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: of your life when you're like a decent pro but

804
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: you're not winning enough and don't have enough sponsors to

805
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: make it your living. You really don't care as much

806
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:20,439
Speaker 1: how you perform, therefore you perform better. You know. Right now,

807
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 1: I understand that if I win Vegas, I can pay

808
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,320
Speaker 1: off student loans and and get a really good kickstart.

809
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 1: So I'm thinking about that when you're when you're a

810
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:35,200
Speaker 1: little bit farther down the line, emerging into it. Like

811
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 1: I'm talking, I'm not talking about like the professionals that

812
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 1: are established and everything, talking about like guys in my

813
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 1: situation five years from now that are a little bit

814
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,879
Speaker 1: more you know, on a foundation. You know, they really

815
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 1: don't really don't care, you know how they do, but

816
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: it's it's different. So I think, Um, for my personal situation,

817
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 1: I either need to let time deal with that and

818
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 1: sure I'll like progress and do well from now until then,

819
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,919
Speaker 1: but I really won't be fully archery mature until then,

820
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 1: or I need a you know, have that mindset now

821
00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: and just understand that. But it's easier said than done. Yeah,

822
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: how old you? Okay, so you're twenty two and you're talking.

823
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 1: Seven to thirty is when a lot of people hit

824
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:26,280
Speaker 1: their stride. Um, all right, So paint me a picture

825
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 1: when you're so five years from now, what's your what

826
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: are you gonna be doing? What's what's your life like?

827
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 1: Yourn tell me what that goal is. I don't know.

828
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 1: I have some goals, but cheese, Hey man, you know

829
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 1: what you're getting into when you came on here. I mean,

830
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: I don't know right now. I mean the past couple

831
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 1: of years has been pretty awesome. I've been able to

832
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: turn this into like my full time job, so I'm

833
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: I'm pretty stoked about that. Um. So the next five years, UM,

834
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 1: the plan is to grow everything and continue and whatever

835
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 1: opportunities arise arise because of it. Um. I started my

836
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: YouTube channel when I was young, like thirteen fourteen, but

837
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:16,120
Speaker 1: everything around my YouTube I've spurred so many new opportunities,

838
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: Like YouTube has always been my my pillar of growth essentially.

839
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,800
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I I see myself, UM definitely

840
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,399
Speaker 1: still shooting, um a bunch. I mean, I just love

841
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:31,320
Speaker 1: to shoot, So I don't really see myself stopping, um,

842
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: especially this year. There have been times in the past. Um, really,

843
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 1: like two or three years ago, I thought about stopping

844
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: shooting and just like hunting and stuff. For this past year,

845
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: I really hammered down and uh, I really loved shooting again,

846
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: so I'm super jacked about that. UM, So definitely going

847
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 1: to continue shooting. UM. I love working um on the

848
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: business side of things UM, like my own stuff and

849
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,719
Speaker 1: helping out ultraView Archery I do. I help out quite

850
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 1: a bit them Colby Hanley who owns it, it's like

851
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,240
Speaker 1: one of my best friends. So we're always um working

852
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:09,280
Speaker 1: on stuff and collaborating. So I definitely see myself diving

853
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 1: in more, more and more and more into the business

854
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 1: side of things UM, hopefully growing YouTube channel beyond. I

855
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 1: mean right now we're kind of projected by the end

856
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 1: of summer to reach a u K subscribers, so that

857
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 1: would be rad UM. So yeah, you never know. I

858
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: don't know. I really don't have a game plan. It's

859
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 1: a thing. I just kind of like know what I

860
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 1: have to do like today and tomorrow and that's about

861
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 1: it and this end vision. But I don't have like

862
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 1: a you know, solid solid plan right now. Anyways, So

863
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 1: you're doing this full time. You're filling your hunts for YouTube,

864
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 1: you're vlogging, your showcasing, your your tournaments, all these different things,

865
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: and you're also you know, participating these tournaments and and

866
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:59,359
Speaker 1: all that is this it's kind of a dream job

867
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,359
Speaker 1: for a lot of people. Right, yeah, it's pretty close

868
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 1: to dream drive for you probably then, right, yeah, dream job.

869
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 1: I didn't know that was a dream. Just kind of

870
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:11,520
Speaker 1: like it just kind of like happened. It's crazy, but yeah,

871
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 1: it's funny. Though you talked earlier how there's this sense

872
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 1: of added pressure once you start and I once you

873
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 1: start kind of getting this thing. And I've definitely felt

874
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 1: this too when I started building my platform my audience. Um,

875
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: I all of a sudden felt this whole new pressure

876
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 1: around everything I was doing. And if I you know,

877
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,719
Speaker 1: if I didn't had the success in the field that

878
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 1: I thought I was supposed to, I feel like I

879
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 1: was a failure or that I was letting people down.

880
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 1: People would like I think I'm an idiot or or

881
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 1: not worth you know, listening to or whatever. So I know, yeah, yeah,

882
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: I know what you're going through there. Um, but it's

883
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,800
Speaker 1: it's some days you're like, oh, man, this this almost

884
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 1: takes some of the fun out of this thing that

885
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 1: used to be just a fun thing to do. Um

886
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 1: when it becomes a job. But then at the same

887
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,920
Speaker 1: time to pinch my self and remind myself, man, you know,

888
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 1: don't ever lose the fun. Don't ever let that happen

889
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 1: because standard nine to five, you know, doing it on

890
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: the weekends, it could be way worse. Um, so there's

891
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:14,319
Speaker 1: definitely catch twenty two there. But yeah, and I'm I'm

892
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,360
Speaker 1: managing that. I'm trying to figure that out, you know,

893
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 1: navigating it. But it's been good. It's been fun. It's

894
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 1: this year, or you can keep going, we can dive in.

895
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: I have so much I want to touch on real

896
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 1: quick about this hunting season because it was crazy, but well, yeah,

897
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 1: I mean this, this is a nice segment and because

898
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 1: it's funny. Um, you're twenty two, I'm thirty two, and uh,

899
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: as I was telling you before we started recording this,

900
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 1: watching your season last year, I just was really jealous.

901
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,760
Speaker 1: And then it's it's weird. I shouldn't be jealous because

902
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 1: I have my dream job. I'm super lucky to be

903
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: able to make a living in this industry of this

904
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: world too. Um, but you know, I have certain obligations

905
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 1: that keep me from doing a whole bunch of the

906
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: crazy stuff you're doing, which is awesome, and I wouldn't

907
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 1: trade what I've got. I'm very, very thankful for for

908
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 1: everything I've got going on my life and my family

909
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 1: and everything. But I do wish that when I was

910
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 1: twenty two, I would have taken off on a season

911
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:18,399
Speaker 1: like you did in ten and uh and just just

912
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 1: looks like you had a hell of a good time. Man.

913
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 1: So so at some point I've got a couple more

914
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: archer questions that I'm probably gonna circle back to. But

915
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 1: on the twenty hunting season, first line up, like, give

916
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 1: us the high level, thirty ft overview of everything you

917
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: did in and then I want to dive into some

918
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: of the specifics. But we first got to understand the

919
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: scale of this epic tour of the country. Two thousand nineteen,

920
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 1: I decided I was going to spend all of my

921
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:49,560
Speaker 1: money and go everywhere pretty much. So I pretty much

922
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 1: went all out, went to eleven states. I had twelve

923
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:59,359
Speaker 1: buck tags and my goal was twelve bucks because Levi

924
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 1: Morgans out twelve bucks last year. I was like, who

925
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,320
Speaker 1: you know, and and this this is a touchy subject

926
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 1: to It's like how many deer can you actually shoot?

927
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 1: And it becomes unethical. That has been like that has

928
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:13,919
Speaker 1: been a turning thing in my mind. But anyway, said,

929
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 1: we can talk about that later. Yeah. Um, so I

930
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 1: started in Alaska in August shout at Cariboo total d.

931
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 1: I y met these guys who are Archie tournament. They

932
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:30,240
Speaker 1: invited me out, barely have spent more than thirty minutes

933
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:33,799
Speaker 1: talking to them before, and I just totally went up there.

934
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,360
Speaker 1: We spent twenty four hours together, driving up all the

935
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:40,760
Speaker 1: way to nearly Prude obey Us over the calendar Caribou Tag.

936
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: Spent eleven days out there. Shot one um, other guys

937
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:47,800
Speaker 1: almost shot a couple. We flung a couple of arrows.

938
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 1: They're really hard, especially especially out there. The way we're

939
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 1: doing it. It's like the wild West. Yeah, the Hall Road.

940
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,839
Speaker 1: I definitely want to hear more about that. The Hall Road.

941
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,880
Speaker 1: It is the I did quite a bit of research before,

942
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:06,839
Speaker 1: and one guy explained it as the budget friendly Alaskan

943
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 1: dream hunt, like anyone could do it. I think I

944
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 1: spent two grand doing that, so it's not too bad,

945
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:19,600
Speaker 1: um for the Alaskan hunt. So that was rat that.

946
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:23,359
Speaker 1: I definitely would do that again. Um, it was fun.

947
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 1: It was a fun time. You saw incredible things. We

948
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:31,720
Speaker 1: saw muskox Um Cariboo. Obviously, we saw a grizzly bear. Um,

949
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 1: and you're you're in Alaska, like you know, like there's

950
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 1: no joke. Yeah, Like sure, we were on the Hall

951
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,879
Speaker 1: Road back and forth. Um, and we would we would

952
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 1: run that hundred mile strip like all the time. It

953
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 1: was intense. So so I looked into doing that hunt.

954
00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 1: At one point a handful of years ago, I was

955
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 1: doing a bunch of research and reading and uh and yes,

956
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 1: it sounds like it's a heck of a great budget opportunity.

957
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 1: But then I did hear from some people saying that

958
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,080
Speaker 1: it can just be like a ship show with all

959
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 1: sorts of people if they migrations crossing the road, everyone's

960
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 1: in the same place and it's hard to get away

961
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:07,840
Speaker 1: from other people. Is that that's true? It can be,

962
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,479
Speaker 1: it can and it can't. So we had we went

963
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:15,280
Speaker 1: the week after opening week, um, and I think opening

964
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:18,799
Speaker 1: week was a little more busy, but we probably only

965
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 1: saw twenty trucks the entire time. Um. But the thing

966
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 1: is is where the caribou are the people are, so

967
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 1: like there was one time three big bowls in the group.

968
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 1: We found them first because we were just driving, and

969
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 1: then like, oh, there they are, you know, four yards

970
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 1: off the road. So we parked, and uh, in the

971
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 1: way the hall road is five miles on each side

972
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 1: is archery only like from the ditch. From the ditch

973
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 1: five miles you just can't shoot them like standing on

974
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 1: the road. And so we run after these cariboo. We

975
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 1: get all set up there, feeding towards us like it

976
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 1: was gonna work, Like it was just gonna work. We

977
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 1: were each huddled down to like this rock because it's flat,

978
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 1: so there's like this little rock and we're huddled next

979
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 1: to it. And then sure enough, a freaking diesel comes

980
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: strolling up parks just running, so they're all looking at it,

981
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 1: and then another truck pulls up and they're like get

982
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 1: out and they're looking at them, and then they run

983
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:14,879
Speaker 1: around or they turn around and run back and they

984
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,359
Speaker 1: try to swing around and then they all spook, you know.

985
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 1: So it's it is. It is kind of challenging. And

986
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 1: even the one that I shot um we saw from

987
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 1: like three quarters of a mile away. I have no

988
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,800
Speaker 1: idea how we saw it, um, And we started hiking

989
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 1: after it, and before we knew it, we looked back

990
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: behind us and there's two guys up on the mountain

991
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 1: like back behind us, and we're like great, but we

992
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 1: were in this I talked talked about it pretty blatant

993
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 1: in the video, but I'm like, yeah, I think we

994
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:45,400
Speaker 1: saw them first, and I think we're ahead of them.

995
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 1: So I was like, we'll just keep going and if

996
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: we run into them, then we run into them. But

997
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:52,319
Speaker 1: we were clearly after the same one. So we go

998
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 1: and we get in the position and we're like, yeah,

999
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 1: they're still like, you know, three yards away or so,

1000
00:52:56,440 --> 00:53:00,080
Speaker 1: it's like we're gonna try to kill him. So we

1001
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,439
Speaker 1: we dived down around this little Luckily we had some terrain,

1002
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,279
Speaker 1: so we worked around this terrain and uh get to her.

1003
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:06,800
Speaker 1: Maybe he was about a hundred yards away, and it

1004
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:11,839
Speaker 1: peeked over and he wasn't there, so you can't really

1005
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 1: see it in the video, but he actually got spooked

1006
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 1: by the other hunters that swirled around. So those guys

1007
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: actually did us a favor, and the bull ran straight

1008
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 1: towards us on top of me like thirty yards, like

1009
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:27,959
Speaker 1: right on the little it was just like a little

1010
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 1: hill that he was on. And this isn't on video,

1011
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 1: but I actually drew back on it at like thirty

1012
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 1: yards and I looked at the camera and my buddy

1013
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 1: I was filming and he wasn't filming. I was on

1014
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:43,719
Speaker 1: his heart, like, oh my gosh, like I could just

1015
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 1: smoke him right now. And I was waiting for him

1016
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: to get the camera, and I let him walk right by.

1017
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:51,399
Speaker 1: So then I let down and he runs right by

1018
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 1: my buddy with the camera like right by him, like

1019
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 1: ten yards, and then I run over to him and

1020
00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:00,319
Speaker 1: circle around and then he starts videoing and the deal

1021
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:03,840
Speaker 1: and I whipped and missed the shot at like fifty

1022
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:07,000
Speaker 1: because he was moving around and my range was wrong.

1023
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 1: Those cariboo never stopped ever ever stop. It's they're always moving. Um.

1024
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:14,880
Speaker 1: So then I quickly reloaded and by the time the

1025
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 1: cariboo knew what was up, he had an arrow sticking

1026
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,280
Speaker 1: in him. And uh then he ran to a hundred

1027
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 1: and he was just like wobbling there at a hundred,

1028
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 1: and I ranged him and smoked him and he dropped.

1029
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:30,560
Speaker 1: So that's how that happened. Yeah, that was I saw

1030
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,399
Speaker 1: part of that of that hunt up until you got

1031
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 1: the shot. And that was pretty crazy. Um. And that terrain,

1032
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 1: I mean you just yeah, it's flat's why open, but

1033
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 1: huge vistas, I mean beautiful in its own kind of

1034
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 1: stark way. Um. I mean it's it's hard to beat

1035
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: Alaska as far as the experience. Yeah, I totally recommend it.

1036
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 1: And there's ways you can like rent vehicles in uh

1037
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: not Anchorage. What's what's the one just Fairbanks? Fair Banks? Yeah,

1038
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:01,720
Speaker 1: you can in fair Banks. You can fly into fair Banks.

1039
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 1: We're in a vehicle drive up. But the buddies I

1040
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 1: knew lived in Anchorage, so I drove all the way

1041
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:14,920
Speaker 1: from Anchorage. That was all. So first Alaska trip, right, yeah,

1042
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 1: my first big, like big adventure type trip. One out

1043
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 1: of ten rating? Did it? Did it hit ten to

1044
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 1: hit your expectations or what? Nine? Nine, eight or nine?

1045
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:30,399
Speaker 1: We were thinking we'd see more caribou, and but that's

1046
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 1: hit or miss with the migration, you know. Yes, I

1047
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 1: don't mean to make you jealous, but on my caribou hunt,

1048
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 1: I probably saw ten thousand. Yeah we saw uh no,

1049
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 1: but that's still pretty cool man. Still it was cool. Yeah,

1050
00:55:45,440 --> 00:55:49,280
Speaker 1: So yeah, what happened next? Then we went to Kentucky

1051
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 1: early season in September. Um. I brought little Cooper with me.

1052
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 1: We always go on a hunt every year. That was

1053
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:58,799
Speaker 1: kind of a bust um. And then we went to

1054
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:02,160
Speaker 1: oh then we into Texas, shot a pig out of

1055
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:06,320
Speaker 1: a helicopter that was pretty rad with the bow, and uh,

1056
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:09,319
Speaker 1: then we went to then we hit the Western Tour.

1057
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 1: So the Western Tour UM quickly kind of sponsored it.

1058
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:16,280
Speaker 1: Um let us bring out there four by four machine,

1059
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 1: which was awesome. Um, it was was so rad. Yeah,

1060
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:23,719
Speaker 1: we got to talk about that. Yeah, because so you

1061
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:28,360
Speaker 1: were going on this multi state Western tour and quickly,

1062
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 1: for those who aren't familiar, it's like a big big

1063
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 1: camper van or big conversion van that was tripped out

1064
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 1: for this kind of thing. Can you walk us through

1065
00:56:36,920 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 1: what that van setup was? Yeah, So it was two

1066
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:42,880
Speaker 1: bunk beds that flipped down on the side so you

1067
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 1: can put them up for storage or travel or whatever.

1068
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:49,360
Speaker 1: And uh there was four seats so driver, passenger, and

1069
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:52,319
Speaker 1: then like a half row in the back and then

1070
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:54,440
Speaker 1: there's like a bunch of storage. Um. There are solar

1071
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 1: panels on the top. So the whole thing was power

1072
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 1: like the van didn't need to be on and like

1073
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 1: power like we ran a microwave like you could, you

1074
00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 1: could do whatever you wanted. Um. And then we actually

1075
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:08,919
Speaker 1: put a sleeper, little sleeper topper on top. Um. So yeah,

1076
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 1: it was fully functional for four people, Like, four people

1077
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:14,800
Speaker 1: could run out of it, no problem. Um, now quickly

1078
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 1: hooked you guys up with that, right, Yeah, do you

1079
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 1: have an idea of what it costs to buy something

1080
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:22,840
Speaker 1: like that? We did research because we were curious. You

1081
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:27,960
Speaker 1: can buy like a stripped out transit van for thirty

1082
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 1: thirty like a pretty new one. Um, and then all

1083
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 1: the renditions we were thinking were like twenty five grand.

1084
00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 1: It's not cheap, but not know, not more. But you

1085
00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:42,920
Speaker 1: buy a brand new truck, you know, I mean, I

1086
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 1: don't know. It's not for everyone, but you can also

1087
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 1: do it, you know, the budget friendly way. You get

1088
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 1: kind of a beater and four by four conversion and

1089
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 1: rig it out, you know, and for probably then you

1090
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 1: got a sweet hunt and rig that you can live

1091
00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 1: out of. Now you don't have to pay for hotels

1092
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 1: and everything. Yeah, it's it's a really cool way to

1093
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 1: do it. I've been very tempted. I've looked at looked

1094
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:06,040
Speaker 1: at vans for a while thinking about doing something like

1095
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 1: that because I love I love just going on my

1096
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 1: hunts and sleeping in the back of my truck and

1097
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 1: that works great. But yeah, sometimes wish she had more room. Yeah, yeah,

1098
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 1: it was it was cool. So we started. We started

1099
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 1: in Wyoming, UM, hunted there for six days. UM. We

1100
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 1: tagged out one out of three tags there. Wyoming is rough. Um.

1101
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 1: Then we headed to Nebraska. We're three for three on

1102
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 1: studs in Nebraska. UM. We hunted there for four days,

1103
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 1: shot three And then we went to South Dakota. Hunted

1104
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 1: there for a day and we shot two bucks. That

1105
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 1: was crazy. How that happened? Back to back, Um, and

1106
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 1: then we drove home. So how many days of a

1107
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 1: total day? Fourteen days total? You hunted three different states.

1108
00:58:57,720 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 1: You had a bunch of guys, bunch of Yeah, in

1109
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 1: every state we like new people were like joining us.

1110
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 1: So it was pretty cool. So I gotta believe that

1111
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 1: people see these videos on YouTube or they're listening now

1112
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:11,439
Speaker 1: and they're wondering, how the heck did you pull it off?

1113
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:14,479
Speaker 1: I mean, lots of people go on a Western hunt

1114
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 1: and they research and they plan all year, and they've

1115
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 1: got one place and they try to find one place

1116
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 1: to hunt, and uh, they're happy and lucky if they

1117
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 1: get one shot. And you guys hit three states all

1118
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 1: these different places. Um? Were these was this public land?

1119
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 1: Was a private was it with buddies to do these

1120
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 1: places like what was all that? So Wilding was a

1121
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:40,439
Speaker 1: buddy's lease. Um, Nebraska is a friend's property. And South

1122
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 1: Dakota was walking hunting, Okay, And so there's a little

1123
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 1: bit of pre intel on some of these spots and

1124
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:48,720
Speaker 1: some figuring out in your own all of them were.

1125
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:51,720
Speaker 1: South Dakota was a little bit of intel. Um, some

1126
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 1: buddies from Wisconsin we met out there and they hunted

1127
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 1: there a year prior. Um when it wasn't like here

1128
00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 1: they all are, you know, it was like right, we

1129
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 1: can hunt. You know these chunks or whatever. These chunks

1130
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 1: we know, Um, Nebraska, Wyoming we know like the back

1131
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 1: of our hand. Nebraska we know pretty well. Um, so

1132
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:12,760
Speaker 1: those were like, you know, I'm pretty familiar in South

1133
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 1: Dakota was totally foreign to us. Which part of the

1134
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 1: state was that southwest? That was north Northwest. Yeah, it's

1135
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 1: cool stuff all those three states. What's your favorite Nebraska,

1136
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 1: but Nebraska or South Dakota. South Dakota was pretty awesome, um,

1137
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 1: because there's a lot of walk in in public ground

1138
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 1: and uh, you're getting into like a different kind of

1139
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 1: Western field. Like Nebraska is probably my favorite, just because

1140
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 1: we go out with my buddy Tim, and it's just

1141
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 1: like fun hanging out with Tim and there's like tons

1142
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 1: of deer um and there's giants like everywhere behind every tree. Yeah,

1143
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 1: well he's got some sweet pieces of property. Um. Yeah,

1144
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 1: I don't know. But Wyoming is cool because it's it

1145
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 1: feels like out west, big mountains. You know, we see elk,

1146
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 1: we see meal deer, we see everything. But I don't know.

1147
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:08,160
Speaker 1: They all kind of have their own their own deal.

1148
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 1: I hate naming favorites. Everyone's like, what's your favorite state,

1149
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 1: what's your favorite And I'm like, I don't know. It's

1150
01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 1: like they all kind of have their own own thing

1151
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 1: that I love about them. Yeah. I understand that you've

1152
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 1: hunted sounds like a few of these states before Nebraska

1153
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 1: definitely before wilding before Um, anything that you learned last

1154
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 1: year on that front, on chasing mule's like that and

1155
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 1: in some white tail too. Um yeah, come away with

1156
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 1: any any lessons learned or anything meal deer. We kind

1157
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:42,960
Speaker 1: of got a formula down for Nebraska. Now. The way

1158
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 1: that Nebraska is is where we're at there's lots of

1159
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 1: ad fields and then just like on the edge of

1160
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 1: an agg field or or like in the middle of it,

1161
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 1: there's a pasture, it literally goes down like it's like

1162
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:59,160
Speaker 1: negative space if it looks like almost. So what we'll

1163
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 1: do is we'll get out there in the morning early

1164
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 1: and we'll sit on a and it's it's just pretty standard.

1165
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:07,760
Speaker 1: But for Nebraska it's a little different because you can't

1166
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:10,400
Speaker 1: get like on a mountain and look in the morning,

1167
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 1: you know. So we'll just get in the pasture somewhere

1168
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 1: where we can see like kind of the farthest um,

1169
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 1: and then we'll see them normally drop down in and

1170
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 1: bed down in the past year and then go through it, um,

1171
01:02:22,680 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 1: you know, try to put stock on it or whatever. Um.

1172
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 1: But the past two years, the same exact thing happened.

1173
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 1: Um my buck last year and my buck this year.

1174
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:35,240
Speaker 1: We're actually just driving around in the truck in the

1175
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 1: past year because they're all they're literally like cow pastures,

1176
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:42,000
Speaker 1: and we would bomb accidentally these bucks out of their

1177
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 1: bed like just driving one place to another and be like, oh, yeah,

1178
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 1: they're bedded right there there. They go, Okay, let's put

1179
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 1: a pin right there, And then next morning we would

1180
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:53,040
Speaker 1: go look over that same spot and they would come

1181
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:56,480
Speaker 1: back in bed in the same spot. So it was

1182
01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 1: kind of interesting in this year. We didn't bump it

1183
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:02,440
Speaker 1: hundred percent out of his bed, but we were driving.

1184
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 1: It was, um, just twilight at night. We're just driving

1185
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:09,040
Speaker 1: back to camp, and we saw this buck just up

1186
01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 1: on the ridge and we're like, he had to have

1187
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:12,440
Speaker 1: just gotten up out of his bed to go to

1188
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:15,920
Speaker 1: the go to the fields. So the next morning we

1189
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:18,600
Speaker 1: set up kind of in that area, just overlooking that

1190
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 1: whole thing, and sure enough he came down, um just

1191
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:25,120
Speaker 1: in one of the draws, and that stock took a

1192
01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 1: long time. And another lesson I guess is I've slowed

1193
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 1: way down. Um, there's a lot of times. You know,

1194
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 1: this is my fourth year meal der hunting, um, and

1195
01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 1: I don't I'm not a master, or don't know a

1196
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:43,680
Speaker 1: whole lot, but all I know is you really have

1197
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:46,240
Speaker 1: to slow down, and you really can't go slow enough

1198
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:49,400
Speaker 1: if they're bedded. I think I took three hours to

1199
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:53,920
Speaker 1: go two d yards and uh, because we had to

1200
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 1: work work these rim edges of these um cuts. Essentially

1201
01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:01,520
Speaker 1: they're not huge cuts, but it was just big enough

1202
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:04,880
Speaker 1: and just steep enough where like you couldn't see them entirely,

1203
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:07,960
Speaker 1: so we would me and Bryce. Bryce was like, right,

1204
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 1: behind me filming. We just worked really slow around these

1205
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 1: like four um four cut rim edge and finally on

1206
01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 1: the fourth one um we saw him, luckily, and then

1207
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:21,560
Speaker 1: I worked my way down and shout him at sixty

1208
01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:24,320
Speaker 1: five and so have you you've seen him from across

1209
01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 1: the way. I said, okay, I think he's better there,

1210
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 1: and then you circle the way around or how did

1211
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 1: that work? Yeah? So we saw him coming off the

1212
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 1: cornfield probably four yards away, work down into the cut

1213
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:38,120
Speaker 1: um and then disappeared. But the thing was is there

1214
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:40,480
Speaker 1: was these four big cuts that we saw and we're like, well,

1215
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 1: he could be in anyone really, because he could have

1216
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:46,040
Speaker 1: just like whazzled around and laid down. And in these cuts,

1217
01:04:46,080 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 1: they're like they almost look like, um, we're in Michigan,

1218
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:51,280
Speaker 1: so you know when there's in the farmer's field and

1219
01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 1: they just planted and it's kind of steep. We got

1220
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:57,320
Speaker 1: a big rain and it like washes out and that's

1221
01:04:57,360 --> 01:04:59,560
Speaker 1: what it looks like. It looks like a big version

1222
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:01,400
Speaker 1: of that up. I know exactly what you mean. Yeah,

1223
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 1: And uh so there was like four of these and

1224
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 1: we're like, oh, he could be really in anyone. And

1225
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:09,440
Speaker 1: there's these deep little spots that can bed right around,

1226
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:11,680
Speaker 1: so we knew he could be in the first one

1227
01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:14,000
Speaker 1: or he could be in the fourth one. So every

1228
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:16,640
Speaker 1: single one, in every single corner, you just have to

1229
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 1: act like he's going to be right there. You know,

1230
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:21,360
Speaker 1: if we just like blew through it and we're like, ah,

1231
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:23,040
Speaker 1: he's not now, when he's not now, when he's not now,

1232
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 1: and we would have busted him, you know, he either

1233
01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:28,920
Speaker 1: would have hurt us or something. So he's I don't know.

1234
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:32,480
Speaker 1: In in last year also, um, I slowed way down

1235
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:34,680
Speaker 1: on my buck because similar thing happened. We watched him

1236
01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 1: come up over this little hillside and dip down into

1237
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:40,000
Speaker 1: a cut, but we couldn't see down in the cut.

1238
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:42,440
Speaker 1: It's like same Azact situation. So we had to just

1239
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 1: work the edge super super slow and that probably took

1240
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:52,520
Speaker 1: an hour. So and another thing it's like in Wyoming,

1241
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 1: I wish I practice this a little better with patients,

1242
01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 1: is we had one opportunity at a meal deer for

1243
01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:02,480
Speaker 1: six days, like one in solid opportunity, and I kind

1244
01:06:02,520 --> 01:06:04,880
Speaker 1: of like rushed it because I was like it's first morning,

1245
01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 1: Like I just rushed it and I kind of blew

1246
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:09,320
Speaker 1: the stock. So it was like if I spent like

1247
01:06:09,360 --> 01:06:11,280
Speaker 1: a half a day, like or the whole day just

1248
01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:12,960
Speaker 1: trying to kill this one buck in his spot, we

1249
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:14,840
Speaker 1: would have killed it, but instead we try to kill

1250
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:18,040
Speaker 1: him in thirty minutes, and we blew it, you know,

1251
01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:20,920
Speaker 1: and and therefore we wasted six days, you know, or

1252
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:23,360
Speaker 1: not wasted, but we then spent the next six days

1253
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:25,800
Speaker 1: going at it. So if I just spent one day

1254
01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 1: or like the half a day trying to just like

1255
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:31,280
Speaker 1: really ninja in on this block, it would have worked

1256
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:35,640
Speaker 1: other than going slow? What else do you do to

1257
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 1: be a ninja when you're stalking at him? Do you

1258
01:06:37,960 --> 01:06:41,040
Speaker 1: do you go as far as like thrown on stocking sacks,

1259
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 1: taking off your shoes or anything that? How about wind?

1260
01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:47,000
Speaker 1: Did wind play into any of these? How you're dealing

1261
01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:49,400
Speaker 1: with circles or anything like that? What else is going

1262
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:52,600
Speaker 1: through your mind on that stock? This year, my Nebraska

1263
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:55,760
Speaker 1: mule deer, it was like dead calm, which sucked because

1264
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 1: it was super it was dry, It was dead calm,

1265
01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 1: and it was like that grass that follow yellow grass,

1266
01:07:01,560 --> 01:07:06,120
Speaker 1: Like every step was just crunchy. So I don't like

1267
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 1: to take off my boots because one time I took

1268
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 1: my boots off and like wore my socks to stalk

1269
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 1: in and well, one you can stop on a cactus

1270
01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 1: and really jack yourself up. Um to the bucks spooked up,

1271
01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:23,880
Speaker 1: but then ran around and stopped, and I could have

1272
01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:25,480
Speaker 1: if I had my boots on, I could have hauled

1273
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:28,240
Speaker 1: butt around and then got back on them. So if

1274
01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:31,080
Speaker 1: I were to ever um do that, I definitely would

1275
01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:33,440
Speaker 1: wear the moccasin type things. I would never like just

1276
01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:37,920
Speaker 1: do socks. But um, I just go slow, like I'm

1277
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:41,000
Speaker 1: like slow, I'm talking about like he'll barely touching, and

1278
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:43,080
Speaker 1: then you feel make sure you're not stop stepping on

1279
01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:45,200
Speaker 1: a stick, and then you like roll your edge of

1280
01:07:45,200 --> 01:07:48,280
Speaker 1: your foot down, make sure nothing's crunching, and then go

1281
01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:51,040
Speaker 1: all the way down and then shift pressure onto that

1282
01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:53,439
Speaker 1: foot and then you do the same thing next week.

1283
01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:55,720
Speaker 1: I mean that's what we did for like three hours straight.

1284
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:58,560
Speaker 1: It gets sucked. But you gotta act like every single

1285
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:00,600
Speaker 1: little when you're in a situation, like you have to

1286
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:03,040
Speaker 1: act like every single little thing is gonna be betted behind.

1287
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:09,800
Speaker 1: So maybe that's too much or not, but in those

1288
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:12,720
Speaker 1: type of situations, all it takes is one little thing,

1289
01:08:12,960 --> 01:08:16,479
Speaker 1: you know, It's just like white, one little thing can

1290
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:20,559
Speaker 1: jack it up. I think that's why it's so exciting

1291
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 1: and addicting, because all those little things matter. You just

1292
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:29,120
Speaker 1: gotta do so on point. Um, So you did fourteen days,

1293
01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:34,720
Speaker 1: you guys days miles. Um, I think we got seven

1294
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:39,360
Speaker 1: bow kills on film. That's a heck of a haul.

1295
01:08:40,120 --> 01:08:47,880
Speaker 1: How How what about gear? What about travel? Um? I

1296
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:51,000
Speaker 1: gotta believe you came out of this with some favorite

1297
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:53,599
Speaker 1: gear or some things that just absolutely saved the day

1298
01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:56,160
Speaker 1: or that. Now I'll never I'll never do a hunt

1299
01:08:56,200 --> 01:08:58,719
Speaker 1: like that without this or a little hack you figured

1300
01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:02,200
Speaker 1: out anything like that. Just as far as hunting trips

1301
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 1: like that, that that stuck out. Yeah, Um, I pretty

1302
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:09,559
Speaker 1: much wore like the same stuff I run um sick

1303
01:09:09,560 --> 01:09:12,599
Speaker 1: of gear mountain pants pretty much for everything right around

1304
01:09:12,640 --> 01:09:16,760
Speaker 1: like that middle October because it's like just a little

1305
01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:19,040
Speaker 1: cold in the morning, but then it's pretty hot, so

1306
01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 1: that those pants are just killer. Um. And then I

1307
01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:25,640
Speaker 1: talked about this a lot on like my channels, But

1308
01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:29,719
Speaker 1: my favorite jacket and I were like all sick of stuff,

1309
01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:32,639
Speaker 1: not all sick of stuff, but mainly sick of stuff. Um.

1310
01:09:32,680 --> 01:09:36,639
Speaker 1: It's the Kelvin light hoodie that brown. I love that hoodie.

1311
01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 1: It's like if people are like, what one piece would

1312
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:41,720
Speaker 1: you buy if you could only buy one piece, I

1313
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:45,200
Speaker 1: really think it would be just that one because you

1314
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:48,599
Speaker 1: can wear it for insulated for white tail, an outer

1315
01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:50,679
Speaker 1: for light tail, because it's pretty quiet and it's fine

1316
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:54,519
Speaker 1: and all those mornings glassing kind of like in that

1317
01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:58,120
Speaker 1: mid season. It works awesome. And I've shot so many

1318
01:09:58,120 --> 01:10:01,760
Speaker 1: deer wearing that jacket. It's like, definitely might go to

1319
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:05,880
Speaker 1: um out West. Out there. You definitely need a solid

1320
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 1: pair of boots. Um. I run kind of tracks their

1321
01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:15,880
Speaker 1: bottom used or got them used and they were good. Um.

1322
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:18,320
Speaker 1: I really haven't messed with many others, but I think

1323
01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:20,280
Speaker 1: that's pretty common. Everyone says you always need a good

1324
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:22,559
Speaker 1: pair of boots. You really do? You know, you can't.

1325
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:26,280
Speaker 1: You can't be chomping around with with whatever unless you're

1326
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 1: unless you're just a special breed like that. There's a

1327
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:33,559
Speaker 1: rancher out in Wyoming and he came out hunting with

1328
01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:35,760
Speaker 1: us for a day and he was in the sketchers.

1329
01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:39,040
Speaker 1: It's like, bro, what are you doing? He does it

1330
01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:42,479
Speaker 1: every day, so it's like he's like whatever. Um, yeah,

1331
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:46,920
Speaker 1: I don't know. There's so much. One one major takeaways

1332
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:51,040
Speaker 1: every year I bring less like my first my first

1333
01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:54,720
Speaker 1: time out West, I brought so much. And every year

1334
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:58,400
Speaker 1: I consolidate and consolidate because I brought This year, I

1335
01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:02,080
Speaker 1: brought like recreation and clothes that I never even touched,

1336
01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:06,040
Speaker 1: like I could have, you know, eliminated a whole suitcase

1337
01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:10,120
Speaker 1: pretty much. There's just there's just things every year that

1338
01:11:10,240 --> 01:11:13,559
Speaker 1: I can solivate because you just really don't need it,

1339
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:17,040
Speaker 1: Like when you're hunting like that, like literally hunted fourteen

1340
01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:20,559
Speaker 1: days straight. All you're doing is hunting. You're not you know,

1341
01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:23,799
Speaker 1: sun up to sundown. We were trying to kill something

1342
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:27,960
Speaker 1: and you're just not spending a lot of time doing

1343
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:32,519
Speaker 1: other things. So it's like remembering that for next year

1344
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:35,720
Speaker 1: and packing wise, you know, really consolidate on things. Do

1345
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:41,320
Speaker 1: you do you bring any emergency archery repair stuff? Uh? Yeah,

1346
01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:44,160
Speaker 1: very minor stuff. What what would you what would you

1347
01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:47,120
Speaker 1: consider like must have that someone should bring, or or

1348
01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:50,000
Speaker 1: any backup pieces or accessoris or anything like that. Either

1349
01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:54,800
Speaker 1: rather so than like backup pieces, I would um, I

1350
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:58,479
Speaker 1: would mark on your bow, like your your peep site,

1351
01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:01,240
Speaker 1: either like you measure your peepsite or you put a

1352
01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:04,320
Speaker 1: little sharpie mark on your like where your peep site

1353
01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:06,439
Speaker 1: is on your bow. That is like the number one

1354
01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:09,479
Speaker 1: thing that gets bumped. I missed it here a couple

1355
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:11,720
Speaker 1: of years ago because my peep site got bombed or

1356
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:15,920
Speaker 1: moved like slid down the string and missed it low. Um,

1357
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:18,360
Speaker 1: so that's like the number one thing I would recommend,

1358
01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:22,639
Speaker 1: um peepsite. It's really not falling out. Your rest could

1359
01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:25,439
Speaker 1: get bombed, but you really can't like just throw a

1360
01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:30,160
Speaker 1: new one on. Um, My equipment is pretty hardy. UM.

1361
01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:33,280
Speaker 1: I don't even bring like an extra bow. I probably should,

1362
01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:38,880
Speaker 1: especially on a trip like that, especially if I have one. UM.

1363
01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:42,800
Speaker 1: I really don't have too much extra stuff that I

1364
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:46,559
Speaker 1: bring like that. Um, it's funny you say that both

1365
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:48,240
Speaker 1: thing I've always had the same thing. I should bring

1366
01:12:48,240 --> 01:12:50,080
Speaker 1: an extra bow. I should bring an extra bow. But

1367
01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:53,080
Speaker 1: then it just comes down to space and wanting to

1368
01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:57,120
Speaker 1: keep it as minimal as possible. And it's like your

1369
01:12:57,120 --> 01:12:59,360
Speaker 1: bow is gonna blow up and it's gonna be like

1370
01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:01,880
Speaker 1: unusable or you're you're gonna be able to like fix

1371
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:05,040
Speaker 1: it with like whatever you have. Like I think the

1372
01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:07,160
Speaker 1: same way as a tournament. You know, it's like your

1373
01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:09,599
Speaker 1: BA is gonna break to a point where you can't

1374
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:11,840
Speaker 1: fix it. So you're gonna be screwed or is going

1375
01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:13,920
Speaker 1: to be something super super small that you can fix

1376
01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:19,280
Speaker 1: easy if the bad thing happens, it's just not your day. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Um,

1377
01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:22,519
Speaker 1: what about food after fourteen days on the road, what

1378
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:25,439
Speaker 1: was learn anything as far as good travel food or

1379
01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:27,960
Speaker 1: how you guys handle that. Yeah. So this year what

1380
01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:31,240
Speaker 1: we did different is actually did pre made meals. So

1381
01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:33,479
Speaker 1: we made like fried rice, a ton of fried rice,

1382
01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:36,639
Speaker 1: made it and uh, and then freezer packed it and

1383
01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:41,840
Speaker 1: froze it and then um, I think I did eight

1384
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:45,439
Speaker 1: days or nine days of food for that for four

1385
01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:49,519
Speaker 1: people each day. Um, so frozen and then actually did

1386
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:52,479
Speaker 1: dry ice and a yetie and it kept it frozen

1387
01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:57,439
Speaker 1: for all those eight days. And then we did uh

1388
01:13:57,600 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 1: we did mac and cheese micro wave mac and cheese,

1389
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:02,680
Speaker 1: and then we did because we had a microwave in

1390
01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:05,880
Speaker 1: the quickly. And then we did the super cheap dollar

1391
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:09,559
Speaker 1: or you can buy like a twenty pack burritos at

1392
01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:12,479
Speaker 1: Walmart for like three dollars. You get a bunch of those,

1393
01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:14,680
Speaker 1: and we actually just like ate those as a d

1394
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:18,000
Speaker 1: thought warming them up. It kind of sounds like you

1395
01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:21,800
Speaker 1: basically eat on a hunting trip, like I ate during college. Yeah,

1396
01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:24,559
Speaker 1: you know kind of when you when you go to

1397
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:26,400
Speaker 1: eleven states and spend all of your money, you're still

1398
01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:31,679
Speaker 1: balling on a budget. So yeah, that's awesome. It's very minimal.

1399
01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:34,200
Speaker 1: That's the good stuff. Though. Those are sometimes the best

1400
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:37,640
Speaker 1: meals if you don't anything fancy. It's just what do

1401
01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:42,080
Speaker 1: they say they say, I'm gonna get the phrase wrong,

1402
01:14:42,320 --> 01:14:46,240
Speaker 1: but like exertion is the best spice, Like after a long,

1403
01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:49,760
Speaker 1: hard day of work, it makes the food taste better

1404
01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:52,080
Speaker 1: just by virtue of what happened. Sprinkle sprinkle some dirt

1405
01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:54,720
Speaker 1: on anything, and pretty much needed at that point. Our

1406
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:57,840
Speaker 1: best meal was in South Dakota. We finally had like

1407
01:14:57,880 --> 01:14:59,640
Speaker 1: we finished early in the day, so we had like

1408
01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:02,320
Speaker 1: a couple all hours at the end and we cooked

1409
01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:05,240
Speaker 1: up some back straps for everyone, and we had six

1410
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:07,559
Speaker 1: people in camp. That was the biggest camp, so that

1411
01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:09,760
Speaker 1: was really cool. We had. We had a good time

1412
01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:13,880
Speaker 1: right at the end. Yeah, that trip was literally more

1413
01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:17,280
Speaker 1: sun up to sundown, fourteen days straight of hunting. It

1414
01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:20,439
Speaker 1: was so intense, and like when we were in Wyoming

1415
01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:22,920
Speaker 1: it was like ten miles a day, twelve miles a day.

1416
01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:25,599
Speaker 1: Nebraska was a little bit more laid back and then

1417
01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:27,439
Speaker 1: I think in South Dakota the one day we hunted,

1418
01:15:27,479 --> 01:15:30,559
Speaker 1: we did like fourteen miles in a day. Would you

1419
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:33,400
Speaker 1: do would you do a trip like that again? Yeah? Yeah,

1420
01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:36,680
Speaker 1: we're planning one. Um this year it's gonna be a

1421
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:39,599
Speaker 1: little different. Um, it's gonna have an elk hunt in it,

1422
01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:44,200
Speaker 1: hopefully so. But three states probably the same amount of time,

1423
01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:47,360
Speaker 1: right around the same time frame. Anything you do differently

1424
01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:52,400
Speaker 1: logistically or planning or anything like that. Looking looking forward

1425
01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:56,599
Speaker 1: towards your next hunt, specifically for the Western tour, maybe

1426
01:15:56,600 --> 01:16:00,320
Speaker 1: pick spots that are a little closer together, know, like

1427
01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:03,760
Speaker 1: find find the Golden Triangle, you know of of three

1428
01:16:03,800 --> 01:16:05,720
Speaker 1: states or something. If you're gonna hit up states or

1429
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:07,519
Speaker 1: two states, you know, if you want to hit up

1430
01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:09,439
Speaker 1: two states, you know, you go on right on the

1431
01:16:09,439 --> 01:16:11,920
Speaker 1: border of one and then just jump across like two

1432
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:15,519
Speaker 1: over the counter states. Um, maybe do that because like

1433
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:18,479
Speaker 1: some our spons for like twelve hours apart. It's funny

1434
01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:21,120
Speaker 1: bring that up because it also brings up another thing

1435
01:16:21,160 --> 01:16:24,240
Speaker 1: that I've sometimes debated internally, and I've kind of been

1436
01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:26,840
Speaker 1: forced to pull back on this a little bit, just

1437
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:29,599
Speaker 1: with you know, stuff that goes on family and everything.

1438
01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:34,000
Speaker 1: But I sometimes have debated in past years if it

1439
01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:37,200
Speaker 1: makes more sense to hunt a bunch of different states

1440
01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:41,519
Speaker 1: but be bounding in place to place and have time limits, um,

1441
01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:44,000
Speaker 1: or do you want to just focus on a couple.

1442
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:47,280
Speaker 1: So that's super interesting you say that, because that's my

1443
01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:49,800
Speaker 1: focus for this year, So explain that. What do you mean?

1444
01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:53,200
Speaker 1: Which way? So like this year, we had three to

1445
01:16:53,320 --> 01:16:56,479
Speaker 1: five days in each state and it was hard. Like

1446
01:16:57,320 --> 01:16:59,200
Speaker 1: in most of these places, like Western Toil we had

1447
01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:05,760
Speaker 1: a little bit. But at these places like Ohio, Iowa, um,

1448
01:17:06,000 --> 01:17:09,960
Speaker 1: West Virginia, like all the other places I went, no

1449
01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:13,160
Speaker 1: previous experience, so we're just like showing up and we'll

1450
01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:15,080
Speaker 1: be like, all right, how do we kill a deer?

1451
01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:18,320
Speaker 1: You know? Pretty much. And we had three to three

1452
01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:21,000
Speaker 1: to four days, three or five days, sometimes two days

1453
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:23,040
Speaker 1: to figure it out, and it was just draining and

1454
01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:27,200
Speaker 1: it was hard. So this year we're narrowing it down.

1455
01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:31,479
Speaker 1: I think I'm only going to five or six, which

1456
01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:35,000
Speaker 1: is still a lot, but compared to eleven, which was

1457
01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:39,040
Speaker 1: a lot. UM, narrow it down, spend more time, you know,

1458
01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:43,479
Speaker 1: try to um essentially, try to kill some bigger dear,

1459
01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:47,519
Speaker 1: you know, because my goal this year was like if

1460
01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:49,640
Speaker 1: it gets me pumping a little bit and it's like

1461
01:17:49,640 --> 01:17:51,679
Speaker 1: a good solid bock, I'll shoot it. Like I shot

1462
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:53,799
Speaker 1: you know, a couple of two year olds and whatever.

1463
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:56,000
Speaker 1: And I did that just for the adventure, you know,

1464
01:17:56,160 --> 01:17:58,000
Speaker 1: go somewhere trying to figure it out. Shoot you dear

1465
01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:02,760
Speaker 1: you know, that was my goal, which was awesome. Yeah.

1466
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:05,320
Speaker 1: This year, I don't know, Like I'm hopefully going to

1467
01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:08,880
Speaker 1: draw in Kansas this year, UM, so I'll probably spend

1468
01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:16,679
Speaker 1: you know, a solid seven eight days planned for Kansas, um,

1469
01:18:16,760 --> 01:18:19,360
Speaker 1: you know, just to spend some time out there. So

1470
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:23,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's it's uh, that has been a

1471
01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:27,559
Speaker 1: very um hot topic lately, especially talking with Bryce. We've

1472
01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:31,320
Speaker 1: been like strategizing on on that. So I don't know,

1473
01:18:31,439 --> 01:18:33,599
Speaker 1: spend some more time in Michigan. I spent so much

1474
01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:37,160
Speaker 1: time in Michigan preparing food plots and everything, and it's

1475
01:18:37,160 --> 01:18:39,439
Speaker 1: like I'm always gone, So it's like I don't really

1476
01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:43,080
Speaker 1: get to hunt it. Yeah, you gotta gotta give the

1477
01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:45,760
Speaker 1: homestakes some love, yeah, I know. And it's like it's

1478
01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:50,600
Speaker 1: the most challenging of all of them almost in my opinion. Yeah, yeah,

1479
01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:55,519
Speaker 1: I certainly feel the same way. It's my buddy Dan Johnson,

1480
01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:57,960
Speaker 1: who's on the podcast a lot with me Liz in

1481
01:18:58,040 --> 01:19:01,559
Speaker 1: Iowa and tell him that for years and finally he's

1482
01:19:01,560 --> 01:19:04,599
Speaker 1: gonna come and hunt Michigan this year, so he'll finally

1483
01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:06,680
Speaker 1: get to see what we're talking about. It's probably not

1484
01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:08,800
Speaker 1: gonna hunt it again, No, probably not so once in

1485
01:19:08,840 --> 01:19:13,200
Speaker 1: a lifetime. Thank I'm actually really impressed you guys. Shout

1486
01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:17,600
Speaker 1: back on the back forty. It was just it was

1487
01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:20,960
Speaker 1: touching go there for a while, man, just because I

1488
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:24,160
Speaker 1: know how it goes. Yeah, it can be. It can

1489
01:19:24,200 --> 01:19:27,439
Speaker 1: be tough. But managed to find a few ever once

1490
01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:30,880
Speaker 1: in a while. So gonna work for him, that's for sure.

1491
01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:35,200
Speaker 1: So so you hunted, You hunted a whole bunch of

1492
01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:38,400
Speaker 1: white tail states last year, Like you just said, um,

1493
01:19:38,520 --> 01:19:41,200
Speaker 1: without taking another hour and going through every single one

1494
01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:43,280
Speaker 1: of those and talking to your ear off, was there

1495
01:19:43,320 --> 01:19:45,679
Speaker 1: anything that stood out across all of those as far

1496
01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:49,640
Speaker 1: as the most interesting or maybe not even that, but

1497
01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:51,559
Speaker 1: is there any hunt that sticks with you like you

1498
01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:54,280
Speaker 1: look back on it and you think to yourself, oh man,

1499
01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:56,560
Speaker 1: that changed how I look at stuff, or that was

1500
01:19:56,600 --> 01:19:58,799
Speaker 1: a huge screw up. I'll never do that again. Anything

1501
01:19:58,840 --> 01:20:03,080
Speaker 1: like that that stands out from your white talents. So Ohio,

1502
01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:06,800
Speaker 1: first time hunting in Ohio. Had some buddies that I

1503
01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:09,280
Speaker 1: met actually from Michigan invited me down and they have

1504
01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:12,479
Speaker 1: a couple of permission on some farms. Pretty awesome farms

1505
01:20:12,479 --> 01:20:16,840
Speaker 1: down there. But Ohio is different, Like there's not a

1506
01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:20,679
Speaker 1: lot of deer. Um, Like, we probably only saw ten

1507
01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:25,559
Speaker 1: deer in four days of hunting, and uh, but their quality, dear,

1508
01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:29,479
Speaker 1: like your opportunity to see a big one is a

1509
01:20:29,479 --> 01:20:33,040
Speaker 1: lot higher, you know, per dear um. So that was

1510
01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:36,120
Speaker 1: super interesting. Um. Kind of changed my perspective on things

1511
01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:40,360
Speaker 1: because a lot of times um and even even in now,

1512
01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:42,960
Speaker 1: thinking of Michigan and other spots, we we try to

1513
01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:44,880
Speaker 1: hunt like where the deer are, like where a lot

1514
01:20:44,920 --> 01:20:48,479
Speaker 1: of deer are, and maybe not necessarily all the time,

1515
01:20:48,600 --> 01:20:51,720
Speaker 1: where the big bucks are, you know. So it's like

1516
01:20:51,720 --> 01:20:53,640
Speaker 1: sitting in spots where like, all right, you might not

1517
01:20:53,680 --> 01:20:56,000
Speaker 1: see a deer today, but when you do, it's going

1518
01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:58,560
Speaker 1: to be a good one, you know. I feel like

1519
01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:00,360
Speaker 1: a lot of times we get we get cat up

1520
01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:03,120
Speaker 1: in and wanting to see a lot of deer because

1521
01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:05,759
Speaker 1: like there's spots in Michigan on the farm that we managed,

1522
01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:07,640
Speaker 1: but It's like if you see forty deer in a night,

1523
01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:09,120
Speaker 1: and you'll see a two year old and a bunch

1524
01:21:09,160 --> 01:21:11,840
Speaker 1: of one year olds, but if you sat here, you

1525
01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:15,120
Speaker 1: might only see three deer. But the chances are a

1526
01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:18,080
Speaker 1: lot more. So I don't I get caught up in

1527
01:21:18,120 --> 01:21:20,719
Speaker 1: that a lot. I feel like, yeah, that's a great point.

1528
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:23,840
Speaker 1: And I feel like a lot of people do you know?

1529
01:21:24,200 --> 01:21:26,960
Speaker 1: So that's a big shift going from hunting any deer

1530
01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:33,160
Speaker 1: to hunting the Yeah it is, and uh, you know,

1531
01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:37,280
Speaker 1: I I've done it, like I've grind it out and

1532
01:21:37,439 --> 01:21:39,920
Speaker 1: I try to shoot big deer and I've shot I'm

1533
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:42,719
Speaker 1: not having shot like a big deer in Michigan, um,

1534
01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:44,400
Speaker 1: but I've shot a lot of like a hundred and

1535
01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:46,080
Speaker 1: ten inch deer, which I feel like it is a

1536
01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:49,960
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty inch deer in Island. It's a different thing. Yeah,

1537
01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:53,960
Speaker 1: I you know, somewhat figured something out. But yeah, I

1538
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:55,479
Speaker 1: don't know that. That made me kind of open my

1539
01:21:55,560 --> 01:21:58,240
Speaker 1: eyes on that a little bit. UM. And then I

1540
01:21:58,280 --> 01:22:02,680
Speaker 1: go to I've been to Louisiana at the past three years, UM,

1541
01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:05,920
Speaker 1: and that's totally different hunting down there. It's a it's

1542
01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:10,280
Speaker 1: a really awesome private chunk. It's like a hunt camp

1543
01:22:10,439 --> 01:22:15,799
Speaker 1: essentially and a buddy through archery. Austin. He he invited

1544
01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:18,200
Speaker 1: me down the past three years, and it's just like

1545
01:22:18,240 --> 01:22:22,240
Speaker 1: it's just totally different the deer. Like you go hunting now,

1546
01:22:22,360 --> 01:22:28,200
Speaker 1: like kind of like East coast West Virginia hunting, you know, Iowa, Michigan, Louisiana.

1547
01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:31,120
Speaker 1: You learn a lot about deer just by doing that.

1548
01:22:31,439 --> 01:22:34,000
Speaker 1: You know, the different types, the way they react to things.

1549
01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:37,280
Speaker 1: You know, like Louisiana, we can drive a buggy, dump

1550
01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:39,760
Speaker 1: a pile of corn, go back and there's deer on

1551
01:22:39,840 --> 01:22:42,320
Speaker 1: it right away. If you did that in Michigan, if

1552
01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:44,479
Speaker 1: you did that like any other place, you would never

1553
01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:48,160
Speaker 1: kill a deer ever. You know. It's just like I

1554
01:22:48,160 --> 01:22:50,280
Speaker 1: don't know, super eye opening, just the different types of

1555
01:22:50,320 --> 01:22:54,960
Speaker 1: deer behaviors, how they do things. I don't know. So

1556
01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:58,680
Speaker 1: what else is on the on the gauntlet for then?

1557
01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:05,400
Speaker 1: Kansas miss again? Which other states? Um? You got to do?

1558
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:08,559
Speaker 1: Like the only reason why Western Tour worked is because

1559
01:23:08,600 --> 01:23:12,240
Speaker 1: like I had somewhat of a game plan and deadlines

1560
01:23:12,280 --> 01:23:15,960
Speaker 1: and strategy. So Kansas, UM, I'd like to make it

1561
01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:19,800
Speaker 1: back to South Dakota, UM, Nebraska for sure, hunting with Tim.

1562
01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:21,439
Speaker 1: Just like to go hang out with him, to hunt

1563
01:23:21,439 --> 01:23:24,519
Speaker 1: of him. It's awesome. Um, Elk is probably gonna be

1564
01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:28,280
Speaker 1: in Colorado. UM, I got some buddies out there that

1565
01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:32,320
Speaker 1: I'll probably tag along with. UM. Other than that, it's

1566
01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:35,000
Speaker 1: like the four for the four states, and then Michigan

1567
01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:39,760
Speaker 1: for sure. UM, I might dabble with Indiana this year

1568
01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:42,519
Speaker 1: because it's close and I probably sit down there a

1569
01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:46,120
Speaker 1: couple of weekends try to figure something out. UM sleeper state.

1570
01:23:46,680 --> 01:23:50,240
Speaker 1: It is a sleeper state, and uh, yeah, I don't know,

1571
01:23:50,479 --> 01:23:52,880
Speaker 1: but yeah, I'm I'm I might add I probably will

1572
01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:55,080
Speaker 1: add one more. I'll go to Louisiana hopefully again this

1573
01:23:55,160 --> 01:23:58,920
Speaker 1: year for sure. UM that's always a grand slam at

1574
01:23:58,920 --> 01:24:01,200
Speaker 1: the end because because there's so many deer and it's awesome.

1575
01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:05,080
Speaker 1: Um we go in January or right at the beginning

1576
01:24:05,080 --> 01:24:07,400
Speaker 1: of January end of December because that's when their rud is.

1577
01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:09,640
Speaker 1: But yeah, I really want to hang around like that

1578
01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:12,519
Speaker 1: six six states this year, just so I can spend

1579
01:24:12,520 --> 01:24:17,160
Speaker 1: more time, maybe multiple trips back, um, I don't know,

1580
01:24:17,200 --> 01:24:19,439
Speaker 1: and then documenting that I'm not a cent sure how

1581
01:24:19,439 --> 01:24:21,080
Speaker 1: I'm going to do it this year if I want

1582
01:24:21,080 --> 01:24:24,439
Speaker 1: to do it a day by day or a state

1583
01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:29,960
Speaker 1: series or what um kind of depends on capacity, on

1584
01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:32,160
Speaker 1: how fast we can get things turned around or whatnot.

1585
01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:36,559
Speaker 1: That's no easy task, that's for sure. People want content yesterday,

1586
01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:41,000
Speaker 1: they don't want it tomorrow. That's true. That's true. Um Man.

1587
01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:43,040
Speaker 1: It sounds like a fun, fun schedule ahead of You

1588
01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:47,680
Speaker 1: got a good year planned out. Um So with all

1589
01:24:47,720 --> 01:24:51,920
Speaker 1: those hunts coming up, you've got pressure on you to

1590
01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:55,719
Speaker 1: have successful hunts. You're you've got a lot of people

1591
01:24:55,720 --> 01:25:00,080
Speaker 1: watching you now. You of course are doing things on

1592
01:25:00,120 --> 01:25:02,680
Speaker 1: the tournament side as well. What I want to know

1593
01:25:02,800 --> 01:25:05,280
Speaker 1: is we wrap this up, is what are you doing

1594
01:25:05,439 --> 01:25:08,559
Speaker 1: right now from an archery side to make sure you're

1595
01:25:08,560 --> 01:25:10,519
Speaker 1: ready for all that stuff later in the year. Because

1596
01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:12,320
Speaker 1: because a lot of people are locked down right now,

1597
01:25:12,320 --> 01:25:13,720
Speaker 1: we kind of kind of lead with us early on

1598
01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:15,400
Speaker 1: and then I kind of forgot to dive into it.

1599
01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:17,320
Speaker 1: There's a lot of people right now that probably have

1600
01:25:17,360 --> 01:25:19,200
Speaker 1: a little more time on their hands at home to

1601
01:25:19,320 --> 01:25:22,439
Speaker 1: be dialing in on the archery side, maybe earlier than

1602
01:25:22,479 --> 01:25:25,840
Speaker 1: they usually do. What what are you doing and what

1603
01:25:25,960 --> 01:25:29,000
Speaker 1: are some things that some other ideas for people to

1604
01:25:29,720 --> 01:25:32,240
Speaker 1: really crank up their archery practice right now and do

1605
01:25:32,280 --> 01:25:36,240
Speaker 1: it in an intentional, thoughtful quality way. Um, since there's

1606
01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:40,640
Speaker 1: nothing better to do. Yeah, for real, right now? Is

1607
01:25:40,680 --> 01:25:44,280
Speaker 1: it this springtime? I feel like for me, it's always

1608
01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:47,800
Speaker 1: a good time to mess with the different equipment. Um,

1609
01:25:47,840 --> 01:25:49,719
Speaker 1: if it's like equipment you already have, you're just gonna

1610
01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:52,240
Speaker 1: tweak around, or you know, maybe getting like a different

1611
01:25:52,240 --> 01:25:54,479
Speaker 1: set of arrows and messing around with that. Now it's

1612
01:25:54,520 --> 01:25:56,760
Speaker 1: just a great time to mess with the equipment because

1613
01:25:56,760 --> 01:25:59,400
Speaker 1: they're far away from season other other than Turkey season,

1614
01:25:59,439 --> 01:26:01,040
Speaker 1: if you're gonna trying to shoot them with the bow,

1615
01:26:01,760 --> 01:26:03,400
Speaker 1: but we're far enough away from season, or do you

1616
01:26:03,439 --> 01:26:07,200
Speaker 1: feel like mess with stuff and tinker around, um, and

1617
01:26:07,240 --> 01:26:10,320
Speaker 1: now it's a good time. Um. I normally get my bows,

1618
01:26:10,439 --> 01:26:13,200
Speaker 1: my hunting bows, dialed in and set up now and

1619
01:26:13,200 --> 01:26:15,599
Speaker 1: then I'll shoot them like all summer long and like

1620
01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:17,479
Speaker 1: check up on them and make sure they're they're doing

1621
01:26:17,479 --> 01:26:19,560
Speaker 1: good and everything. But get them set up now. And

1622
01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:23,080
Speaker 1: I never like to rush. And I've been in so

1623
01:26:23,120 --> 01:26:26,639
Speaker 1: many situations where I'm like, you know, the day before,

1624
01:26:26,640 --> 01:26:29,200
Speaker 1: a week before, rushing to get something set up, and

1625
01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:33,120
Speaker 1: then it's never it's never a so like past couple

1626
01:26:33,120 --> 01:26:36,720
Speaker 1: of years. Um, my setups have been so dialed and

1627
01:26:36,800 --> 01:26:40,320
Speaker 1: so perfect early and then they you know, and then

1628
01:26:40,439 --> 01:26:43,479
Speaker 1: shoot with them, get familiar with them, and uh, you know,

1629
01:26:43,520 --> 01:26:46,800
Speaker 1: by the time September rolls around, they're already ready to go,

1630
01:26:47,200 --> 01:26:49,720
Speaker 1: you know. So yeah, now now it's a good time

1631
01:26:49,760 --> 01:26:54,080
Speaker 1: to really mess with your bow and uh, you know,

1632
01:26:54,120 --> 01:26:56,040
Speaker 1: like many of us right now and for the next

1633
01:26:56,280 --> 01:26:59,320
Speaker 1: week or two or however long. I hopefully not too

1634
01:26:59,400 --> 01:27:03,680
Speaker 1: much longer. We're stuck inside and many people can't shoot. Um,

1635
01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:06,080
Speaker 1: but becoming familiar with your bow on like the technical

1636
01:27:06,120 --> 01:27:08,880
Speaker 1: side of stuff if you can, and uh, and diving

1637
01:27:08,880 --> 01:27:12,360
Speaker 1: into a lot of online content. You know. The most

1638
01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:18,080
Speaker 1: important thing for me too is confidence. And when I

1639
01:27:18,120 --> 01:27:23,439
Speaker 1: know my equipment, When I know, like I said earlier,

1640
01:27:23,479 --> 01:27:25,680
Speaker 1: when I when I missed the deer or wounded deer

1641
01:27:25,720 --> 01:27:29,000
Speaker 1: or whatever, as long as I know what happened and

1642
01:27:29,120 --> 01:27:31,639
Speaker 1: I can fix it, you know, I'm in a better place.

1643
01:27:31,680 --> 01:27:34,200
Speaker 1: And I know that a lot because I know my equipment,

1644
01:27:34,400 --> 01:27:36,960
Speaker 1: I know my form. So it's like I was a

1645
01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:39,639
Speaker 1: good time to study kind of you know, we're stuck inside.

1646
01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:44,439
Speaker 1: It's understanding equipment, looking online, knowing how things work. You know,

1647
01:27:44,439 --> 01:27:48,360
Speaker 1: there's so many good, so many good and bad resources online,

1648
01:27:49,080 --> 01:27:52,280
Speaker 1: so definitely pick and choose and kind of filter things out.

1649
01:27:52,360 --> 01:27:54,640
Speaker 1: But yeah, what are a few of your favorite resources

1650
01:27:54,720 --> 01:27:58,000
Speaker 1: for for archery stuff? And then also you mentioned when

1651
01:27:58,000 --> 01:28:00,840
Speaker 1: we were talking mindset early on you mentioned a book

1652
01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:03,160
Speaker 1: something I can't remember who it was, some about winning.

1653
01:28:03,200 --> 01:28:05,479
Speaker 1: Are there any other books or people on the mindset

1654
01:28:05,640 --> 01:28:08,120
Speaker 1: side of things that would be interesting too? Yeah? So

1655
01:28:08,160 --> 01:28:11,120
Speaker 1: a book, um that I mentioned is with Winning in

1656
01:28:11,240 --> 01:28:15,639
Speaker 1: Mind by Lanny Bassom, and it's not archery specific. It's

1657
01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:18,519
Speaker 1: actually more like rifle shooting specific, but he does talk

1658
01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:21,000
Speaker 1: about archery a little bit, but it's all about mindset.

1659
01:28:21,120 --> 01:28:24,120
Speaker 1: Like that's the entire book. Kind of boring if you

1660
01:28:25,000 --> 01:28:29,920
Speaker 1: if you're not deep into that, but that's really good. Um.

1661
01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:34,800
Speaker 1: George Ryles UM has a lot of good segments called

1662
01:28:35,040 --> 01:28:38,320
Speaker 1: thing a week if you just literally type in a

1663
01:28:38,320 --> 01:28:41,719
Speaker 1: YouTube thing a week. He has like tons of very

1664
01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:47,200
Speaker 1: um in depth detailed videos on like one specific thing.

1665
01:28:47,400 --> 01:28:50,559
Speaker 1: It's like you know, you're shooting hand or whatever. And

1666
01:28:50,560 --> 01:28:53,439
Speaker 1: he's done that for years, so you can find some

1667
01:28:53,479 --> 01:28:56,719
Speaker 1: really old ones. But George Ryles, he's my coach down Atlanta.

1668
01:28:56,880 --> 01:29:00,439
Speaker 1: He's he's one so many things. He's like, he's like

1669
01:29:00,520 --> 01:29:02,759
Speaker 1: the pro that was like the top of the line

1670
01:29:02,760 --> 01:29:06,639
Speaker 1: pro like twenty years ago. So now all he does

1671
01:29:06,720 --> 01:29:08,840
Speaker 1: is like coach. He still shoots. He actually made the

1672
01:29:08,840 --> 01:29:12,840
Speaker 1: biggest shoot off like four years ago. Still. Um yeah,

1673
01:29:12,920 --> 01:29:16,719
Speaker 1: super knowledgeable there, George Riles. You can find all this stuff. Um.

1674
01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:22,799
Speaker 1: Joel Turner shot i Q for for anyone, bull hunters,

1675
01:29:22,840 --> 01:29:28,800
Speaker 1: trad people. Um, even he he's big into oh yeah,

1676
01:29:28,840 --> 01:29:31,439
Speaker 1: he's big into trapped but turnament shooters, anything for mindset,

1677
01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:34,639
Speaker 1: even for shooting, but for mindset especially. Um, he's got

1678
01:29:34,640 --> 01:29:37,840
Speaker 1: a ton of stuff. Dudley. Dudley's got some good stuff

1679
01:29:37,880 --> 01:29:43,559
Speaker 1: of course. Um, but everyone pretty much knows that. Um yeah,

1680
01:29:43,800 --> 01:29:49,479
Speaker 1: try to stay off archie talk. Don't give you started. Yeah,

1681
01:29:49,479 --> 01:29:52,600
Speaker 1: they can get messy in there real quick. Yeah that's crazy.

1682
01:29:52,920 --> 01:29:57,519
Speaker 1: Um okay. So then final thing for folks once they

1683
01:29:57,560 --> 01:30:02,160
Speaker 1: do get outside and they're shooting, UM, few tips for

1684
01:30:02,479 --> 01:30:07,120
Speaker 1: better practice, for for good quality practice. Um. And then

1685
01:30:07,640 --> 01:30:09,559
Speaker 1: it's a two part I do this a lot as

1686
01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:11,559
Speaker 1: I I asked a question and then I add all

1687
01:30:11,560 --> 01:30:15,280
Speaker 1: these add on So so so sorry for that. Um, so

1688
01:30:15,360 --> 01:30:19,759
Speaker 1: tips for better practice and then secondly, do you recommend

1689
01:30:19,800 --> 01:30:24,799
Speaker 1: people practice differently as the season progresses as a year progress.

1690
01:30:24,840 --> 01:30:27,400
Speaker 1: So so should we be practicing differently now than we

1691
01:30:27,439 --> 01:30:30,639
Speaker 1: would be in August than we would be in October? Right?

1692
01:30:30,720 --> 01:30:34,760
Speaker 1: I got you? So. Um, things you should focus on

1693
01:30:34,760 --> 01:30:39,880
Speaker 1: when your practice is to set goals for yourself and

1694
01:30:39,920 --> 01:30:43,639
Speaker 1: only compare against yourself at the distances you can shoot

1695
01:30:43,800 --> 01:30:46,720
Speaker 1: and at the skill level you can shoot. Um. A

1696
01:30:46,720 --> 01:30:48,840
Speaker 1: lot of people want to get messages all the time.

1697
01:30:49,120 --> 01:30:51,080
Speaker 1: It's like, oh I wish I could shoot what you shoot,

1698
01:30:51,400 --> 01:30:53,000
Speaker 1: or you know, I'm not shooting as good as you

1699
01:30:53,120 --> 01:30:56,559
Speaker 1: or whatever. And now social media and everything, you know,

1700
01:30:56,680 --> 01:30:59,600
Speaker 1: you can see all these people with their groups in

1701
01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:03,280
Speaker 1: their schools and everything. So you should really only compare

1702
01:31:03,320 --> 01:31:07,360
Speaker 1: against yourself and try to grow against yourself. Um, and

1703
01:31:07,400 --> 01:31:10,599
Speaker 1: don't wear yourself out obviously, you know, take it baby

1704
01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:13,479
Speaker 1: steps if you don't shoot a whole lot or anything. Um,

1705
01:31:13,520 --> 01:31:16,519
Speaker 1: but I guess that's one tip for practicing, like just

1706
01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:23,879
Speaker 1: in your backyard and stuff. Um, and then throughout the season. Um.

1707
01:31:24,040 --> 01:31:25,439
Speaker 1: What I like to do is I do like to

1708
01:31:25,479 --> 01:31:28,240
Speaker 1: stretch things out, and a lot of my videos I

1709
01:31:28,280 --> 01:31:31,320
Speaker 1: shoot far, you know, like eighty yards, ninety yards, hundred yards.

1710
01:31:31,840 --> 01:31:35,320
Speaker 1: And what that does is that really amplifies your mistakes,

1711
01:31:36,439 --> 01:31:39,599
Speaker 1: you know. It Uh, it opens up your groups, allows

1712
01:31:39,680 --> 01:31:43,320
Speaker 1: you to um try to tone in your groups that

1713
01:31:43,439 --> 01:31:46,600
Speaker 1: farther because like for me, if I shoot twenty yards,

1714
01:31:46,600 --> 01:31:50,800
Speaker 1: it's like sure, like I can really micro manage that in.

1715
01:31:51,040 --> 01:31:55,040
Speaker 1: But when you back up farther, it just amplifies everything

1716
01:31:55,160 --> 01:31:59,040
Speaker 1: so much for me. But that's not you know, those

1717
01:31:59,080 --> 01:32:02,439
Speaker 1: far distances could do the same thing for someone at

1718
01:32:02,479 --> 01:32:06,559
Speaker 1: forty yards. You know, if someone you know can do

1719
01:32:06,760 --> 01:32:09,360
Speaker 1: a paper plate at forty yards and try to dial

1720
01:32:09,439 --> 01:32:12,439
Speaker 1: that in, you know, I'm a paper plate at a hundred,

1721
01:32:12,680 --> 01:32:15,360
Speaker 1: you know. So everyone has their own distance that they

1722
01:32:15,439 --> 01:32:18,040
Speaker 1: really can max out and then zone in and then

1723
01:32:18,080 --> 01:32:20,040
Speaker 1: maybe max out a little bit more and then zone in.

1724
01:32:20,160 --> 01:32:21,960
Speaker 1: So it just makes you a better archer when you

1725
01:32:22,720 --> 01:32:24,400
Speaker 1: back it up a little bit. If you're always just

1726
01:32:24,400 --> 01:32:26,679
Speaker 1: shooting twenty yards like that's all you do, tony yards,

1727
01:32:26,720 --> 01:32:29,720
Speaker 1: that's it. Sure you can get better and everything, but

1728
01:32:30,360 --> 01:32:34,439
Speaker 1: unless you're scoring, or unless you're like really you know,

1729
01:32:34,479 --> 01:32:37,240
Speaker 1: paying attention to how your group size and it isn't

1730
01:32:37,280 --> 01:32:43,360
Speaker 1: everything can't really improve per se or see your improvements. Yeah,

1731
01:32:43,760 --> 01:32:46,840
Speaker 1: so that's that's something I've seen too. What about one

1732
01:32:46,880 --> 01:32:49,840
Speaker 1: way to get better at long distance shooting, because because

1733
01:32:49,840 --> 01:32:51,559
Speaker 1: I've always tried to stretch it out more and more

1734
01:32:51,600 --> 01:32:54,559
Speaker 1: and push myself. But then, like you just said, your

1735
01:32:54,560 --> 01:32:59,559
Speaker 1: group's open up, every mistake gets amplified. Uh, anything we

1736
01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:02,080
Speaker 1: can be we can be doing to get better at

1737
01:33:02,080 --> 01:33:05,599
Speaker 1: those long shots other than just doing it a lot. Yeah,

1738
01:33:05,600 --> 01:33:08,160
Speaker 1: well it's not just one thing. And like the long shot,

1739
01:33:08,680 --> 01:33:10,920
Speaker 1: it's not getting good at the long shot, it's just

1740
01:33:10,960 --> 01:33:14,320
Speaker 1: like getting good at your shot. So like a middle

1741
01:33:14,360 --> 01:33:16,719
Speaker 1: at twenty yards, if it's like dead nuts at twenty,

1742
01:33:17,120 --> 01:33:19,760
Speaker 1: it would have been dead nuts at a hundred, you know,

1743
01:33:19,880 --> 01:33:23,479
Speaker 1: So it's like middle's middle. It's just you know, how

1744
01:33:23,680 --> 01:33:27,080
Speaker 1: your shot is, so like really focusing on your form.

1745
01:33:27,120 --> 01:33:31,719
Speaker 1: You know a lot of people worry so much about equipment, equipment, equipment, equipment.

1746
01:33:31,760 --> 01:33:32,960
Speaker 1: You know, I gotta do this, I do that, I

1747
01:33:33,200 --> 01:33:36,479
Speaker 1: do this, But then the forum's jack you know, so

1748
01:33:36,520 --> 01:33:38,679
Speaker 1: if it's you know, there's so many things with form,

1749
01:33:38,760 --> 01:33:40,720
Speaker 1: like I can't there's just not one thing you can

1750
01:33:40,760 --> 01:33:44,920
Speaker 1: point to. But um, like I said earlier, like if

1751
01:33:44,920 --> 01:33:47,599
Speaker 1: you really want to get better, you're struggling finding a coach,

1752
01:33:47,640 --> 01:33:51,040
Speaker 1: finding a pro shop, videoing yourself, you know, like putting

1753
01:33:51,040 --> 01:33:54,120
Speaker 1: your phone on a tripod, looking and then looking online

1754
01:33:54,840 --> 01:33:59,160
Speaker 1: really analyzing it. Um. Yeah, form, form is so important.

1755
01:33:59,400 --> 01:34:01,320
Speaker 1: Like if you did the same thing if your boat,

1756
01:34:01,400 --> 01:34:04,400
Speaker 1: let's just say your bow is so untuned so jack,

1757
01:34:04,520 --> 01:34:06,559
Speaker 1: your knock was sticking in the target, it was doing

1758
01:34:06,600 --> 01:34:10,120
Speaker 1: a somersault. But it does that every single time. You know,

1759
01:34:10,160 --> 01:34:13,200
Speaker 1: your boat does the same thing every single time, like

1760
01:34:13,280 --> 01:34:15,840
Speaker 1: for real, it does so Like if your bow is

1761
01:34:15,880 --> 01:34:18,360
Speaker 1: so jacked, but you did the same thing every time

1762
01:34:18,360 --> 01:34:21,320
Speaker 1: and you shot every single time, you'd still shoot really good.

1763
01:34:22,240 --> 01:34:25,280
Speaker 1: You know. There's so many times like there's a there's

1764
01:34:25,400 --> 01:34:28,880
Speaker 1: there's a professionals that will like they tune their bow,

1765
01:34:29,000 --> 01:34:34,080
Speaker 1: but then they like untune their bow to get optimum groupings.

1766
01:34:34,240 --> 01:34:39,280
Speaker 1: Essentially it's for short term and uh yeah, it's it's

1767
01:34:39,320 --> 01:34:41,960
Speaker 1: it's all about your form. It's all about consistency. You

1768
01:34:42,000 --> 01:34:44,559
Speaker 1: can shoot, you can shoot anything. You can pick up

1769
01:34:44,600 --> 01:34:47,240
Speaker 1: any bow, and as long as your form is good

1770
01:34:47,280 --> 01:34:50,240
Speaker 1: and and everything, you can shoot good with it. So

1771
01:34:50,280 --> 01:34:53,120
Speaker 1: I feel like that's so over especially in the world

1772
01:34:53,120 --> 01:34:57,960
Speaker 1: of everyone's like foc and all this crazy stuff. It's like, okay,

1773
01:34:58,120 --> 01:35:00,479
Speaker 1: calm down. The most important thing. Do you know how

1774
01:35:00,520 --> 01:35:03,479
Speaker 1: to shoot? A bow. You know, it's easy to get

1775
01:35:03,600 --> 01:35:06,360
Speaker 1: hung up on all the menut shaw I kind of

1776
01:35:06,920 --> 01:35:09,360
Speaker 1: I'm not good at the menu show when it comes

1777
01:35:09,360 --> 01:35:12,920
Speaker 1: to archery equipment and gear. So I've tended to to

1778
01:35:13,479 --> 01:35:16,000
Speaker 1: focus on the side that I feel some sense of

1779
01:35:16,280 --> 01:35:18,840
Speaker 1: confidence around, which is which is trying to figure out

1780
01:35:18,840 --> 01:35:21,360
Speaker 1: good form and consistency and all that stuff. And then

1781
01:35:21,400 --> 01:35:24,400
Speaker 1: I just like outsource those other equipment things to the

1782
01:35:24,439 --> 01:35:26,400
Speaker 1: pro shop and say, hey, help me make sure this

1783
01:35:26,400 --> 01:35:29,880
Speaker 1: stuff's lined up because I can't keep track of it all. Yeah,

1784
01:35:30,200 --> 01:35:33,439
Speaker 1: So I don't know that's good stuff, man, Um, I

1785
01:35:33,439 --> 01:35:35,800
Speaker 1: think you've got to You've got a cool thing going.

1786
01:35:36,000 --> 01:35:39,080
Speaker 1: So I've I've enjoyed hearing more about it today, and

1787
01:35:39,479 --> 01:35:42,120
Speaker 1: I think people people certainly will have to. So if

1788
01:35:42,160 --> 01:35:44,840
Speaker 1: people want to see what's got going on, follow your

1789
01:35:44,880 --> 01:35:47,519
Speaker 1: YouTube videos or you on social media. Where can they

1790
01:35:47,560 --> 01:35:50,559
Speaker 1: find all this stuff? Yeah? So just in YouTube, just

1791
01:35:50,560 --> 01:35:53,800
Speaker 1: search my name Chris b B just like the Bumblebee.

1792
01:35:53,960 --> 01:35:56,360
Speaker 1: Gotta do it every single time. Or people are like, no,

1793
01:35:56,479 --> 01:36:00,880
Speaker 1: what's your full name? But yeah, I'm YouTube and Instagram

1794
01:36:00,960 --> 01:36:04,679
Speaker 1: is Chris be real? And uh yeah, follow along there

1795
01:36:04,920 --> 01:36:06,600
Speaker 1: and what kind of stuff do they expect over on

1796
01:36:06,600 --> 01:36:10,000
Speaker 1: YouTube here in the off season. So offseason, Um, I

1797
01:36:10,120 --> 01:36:12,800
Speaker 1: just did a bunch of bow build videos, so I

1798
01:36:12,880 --> 01:36:15,759
Speaker 1: like to start to finish on bow builds and people

1799
01:36:15,840 --> 01:36:18,720
Speaker 1: really love those. Um A lot of shooting, a lot

1800
01:36:18,760 --> 01:36:22,759
Speaker 1: of fun I love doing like uh, funny church shots,

1801
01:36:22,840 --> 01:36:24,719
Speaker 1: long shots. So we do a lot of entertaining stuff

1802
01:36:24,720 --> 01:36:28,439
Speaker 1: in the off season. Um. So yeah, we're I'm looking

1803
01:36:28,479 --> 01:36:30,760
Speaker 1: forward to a little bit warmer temperatures so you can

1804
01:36:30,800 --> 01:36:34,040
Speaker 1: do a lot a lot more cool stuff outside. Very cool. Well,

1805
01:36:34,080 --> 01:36:37,000
Speaker 1: I'll make sure to send folks check all that out.

1806
01:36:37,280 --> 01:36:39,920
Speaker 1: And I appreciate you taking the time talk about all

1807
01:36:39,920 --> 01:36:43,519
Speaker 1: this stuff. Yeah, no problem, it was fun. I enjoy it.

1808
01:36:43,560 --> 01:36:46,080
Speaker 1: To Chris, let's stay in touch and good luck. This

1809
01:36:46,120 --> 01:36:50,400
Speaker 1: season sounds good. Thanks guys, and that is it for

1810
01:36:50,520 --> 01:36:53,479
Speaker 1: us today. Thank you for listening. Make sure check out

1811
01:36:53,520 --> 01:36:56,519
Speaker 1: all of Chris's stuff. Like I mentioned, it's good stuff,

1812
01:36:56,560 --> 01:36:59,600
Speaker 1: it's fun, a lot of good information and hunts to

1813
01:36:59,640 --> 01:37:03,680
Speaker 1: follow along with, so enjoy that stuff. Otherwise, just be

1814
01:37:03,760 --> 01:37:06,160
Speaker 1: safe out there, folks. I just hope and pray that

1815
01:37:06,200 --> 01:37:10,080
Speaker 1: everyone in our Wired Hungue community is healthy and safely

1816
01:37:10,120 --> 01:37:12,439
Speaker 1: at home with your friends or your family, whoever you

1817
01:37:12,479 --> 01:37:15,280
Speaker 1: live with, and that you're all doing well. Um, thinking

1818
01:37:15,320 --> 01:37:20,000
Speaker 1: of all of you, and until next time, stay wired

1819
01:37:20,600 --> 01:37:21,040
Speaker 1: to hunt.