1
00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,240
Speaker 1: Hey, Vikings fans, Ben Lever here, I'm so excited to

2
00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:04,360
Speaker 1: be a new Lifetime member, and so are my kids.

3
00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:06,480
Speaker 1: They love the tennis, the pick a ball, the basketball,

4
00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:08,680
Speaker 1: and of course the yummy cafe. Check them out at

5
00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:10,720
Speaker 1: Lifetime dot life to find a club nearest you.

6
00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:15,880
Speaker 2: Welcome to School Stories, presented by three M, the official

7
00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:19,480
Speaker 2: science partner of the Minnesota Vikings. Tonight we're joined by

8
00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,960
Speaker 2: Vikings legendary offensive tackle Brian McKinney.

9
00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:28,960
Speaker 3: Thanks again for tuning into another episode of Skull Stories.

10
00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,559
Speaker 3: Our special guest was the much larger than life offensive

11
00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,120
Speaker 3: tackle for some of the most historic teams for both

12
00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:38,479
Speaker 3: your Minnesota Vikings and the Miami Hurricanes. Nowadays, he's an

13
00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,360
Speaker 3: entrepreneur and advocate for players to get access to the

14
00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:44,760
Speaker 3: post playing career services that they need. I think you're

15
00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:47,720
Speaker 3: really going to enjoy tonight's conversation with old number seventy

16
00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:53,360
Speaker 3: four Brian McKinney. Well, I'm absolutely thrilled to be able

17
00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,000
Speaker 3: to sit out on Brian McKinney. Brian, what are you

18
00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:57,800
Speaker 3: doing nowadays? Just kind of give us a bit of

19
00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,000
Speaker 3: a refresher on what your life is like and what

20
00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:02,120
Speaker 3: are you up to right now?

21
00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:03,680
Speaker 4: I have a company called Let's Chat, so we do

22
00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,279
Speaker 4: language translation in real time based off your device setting,

23
00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:13,600
Speaker 4: so we can translate in person, presentation, websites, subtitling, I mean,

24
00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:17,240
Speaker 4: you name it, we can do it. And we're about

25
00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,000
Speaker 4: ninety between ninety seven nine nine percent accuracy. We do

26
00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,680
Speaker 4: one hundred and four languages with one hundred different dialects.

27
00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,639
Speaker 4: So we've done things for the NFL, translated different seasons

28
00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:29,559
Speaker 4: for their game pass and things like that, Major League Soccer.

29
00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:33,960
Speaker 4: We're in food and beverage Bojangle's, Coca Cola, McDonald's, so

30
00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,080
Speaker 4: I heard doing that. And besides that, also my foundation

31
00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,720
Speaker 4: be major foundation where we especially where mission statement is

32
00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:44,480
Speaker 4: healthy kids, healthy living, single parent homes, and mental health awareness.

33
00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:48,280
Speaker 4: So I've done two events geared towards mental health, and

34
00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,520
Speaker 4: the vicers have been you know, supporters of that as well,

35
00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:51,760
Speaker 4: so I always thank them for that.

36
00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,080
Speaker 3: Now, is that part of it still in Florida? Is that?

37
00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:55,920
Speaker 3: Is that where you're still living down in Florida? I

38
00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:56,919
Speaker 3: still live in South Florida.

39
00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:57,160
Speaker 1: Yep.

40
00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,160
Speaker 4: And then like now with some of my charity events

41
00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:00,960
Speaker 4: and especially the mens health part, I want to start

42
00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,720
Speaker 4: branching off the different cities. So I've had talks with

43
00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,720
Speaker 4: Jasper and let's Pico of putting together something and coming

44
00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:08,440
Speaker 4: up here and doing it either for the players or

45
00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:10,520
Speaker 4: just different people in the community, and then move it

46
00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,120
Speaker 4: over maybe to Baltimore's I played there and something new Jersey,

47
00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:14,080
Speaker 4: so I want to start moving that.

48
00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:17,480
Speaker 3: Around, all right. And Jasper Brinkley's new here, he's taking

49
00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,080
Speaker 3: over a role of you know, players, this players support

50
00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,080
Speaker 3: program unless Pico has been here forever. So it's great

51
00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:27,120
Speaker 3: that you're still is you still enjoy like being involved

52
00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,320
Speaker 3: Attle least in that way with with the NFL and being.

53
00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,440
Speaker 4: I do just because after retiring you realize it's needed.

54
00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:36,560
Speaker 4: Because the guys have a tough time sometimes transitioning from

55
00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,720
Speaker 4: life after and not fully knowing who their identity is

56
00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,840
Speaker 4: once they're finished playing football, So that you know that

57
00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:43,840
Speaker 4: aspect definitely helps.

58
00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,000
Speaker 3: It's a shock, isn't it. I Mean it's your whole life,

59
00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:47,680
Speaker 3: everything you do, it's all based on that, and then

60
00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:49,720
Speaker 3: that one day you wake up and yeah, it's over.

61
00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:51,520
Speaker 4: And like a lot of guys have started at you know,

62
00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:53,399
Speaker 4: five or six years old, you know, and so that's

63
00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:55,600
Speaker 4: been their identity for a long time, especially if they

64
00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:57,440
Speaker 4: made it to the league, so six years old to

65
00:02:57,880 --> 00:02:59,880
Speaker 4: you know, however long you played in the league as

66
00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,839
Speaker 4: big chunk of your life and then figuring out life

67
00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:04,680
Speaker 4: afterwards can be challenging for a lot of people. So

68
00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:06,720
Speaker 4: that's where the mental health part comes in. And a

69
00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:08,200
Speaker 4: lot of people only want to talk to somebody who

70
00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,280
Speaker 4: they feel like has been in their shoes, especially when

71
00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:12,160
Speaker 4: they'd have been the bread winner. Like a lot of

72
00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:13,880
Speaker 4: their family comes in with their problems, so it's like

73
00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,520
Speaker 4: they don't feel comfortable going back to their family speaking,

74
00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:18,760
Speaker 4: you know, having those conversations, so they'd like to talk to,

75
00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,600
Speaker 4: you know, former teammates and guys around the league that

76
00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:23,640
Speaker 4: they played with. So I was able to kind of

77
00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:27,160
Speaker 4: form like a group and actually did a panel. It

78
00:03:27,200 --> 00:03:30,239
Speaker 4: was myself, Tommy Harris, and Ray Rice and then we

79
00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,080
Speaker 4: had a mediator and we did it for the NFLPA

80
00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:35,080
Speaker 4: and we had like a bunch of guys to tune in.

81
00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:35,800
Speaker 3: It was over zoom.

82
00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,280
Speaker 4: We had a conversation where guys were able to do

83
00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:39,680
Speaker 4: that back and that was back in May because I

84
00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:41,040
Speaker 4: was mental health for wear in this month. So we

85
00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:43,600
Speaker 4: did that with the NFLPA and they're looking to kind

86
00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:45,080
Speaker 4: of do you know more of those? And I felt

87
00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:46,280
Speaker 4: like those conversations that need it.

88
00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's that stuff wasn't around back back when you

89
00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:51,440
Speaker 3: were playing. So let's go back and you know, you

90
00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:55,680
Speaker 3: there aren't many offensive line coaches or have offensive line

91
00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,200
Speaker 3: backgrounds that are the head coach. Right, so you had

92
00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,720
Speaker 3: not only Steve Loney as a position coach, Mike Tyson

93
00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:04,760
Speaker 3: as a head coach. What was what was his impact

94
00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:08,240
Speaker 3: on you as far as as far as becoming the

95
00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:09,480
Speaker 3: tackle to.

96
00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:14,080
Speaker 4: UH coach Ty's definitely, especially around like two thousand and five.

97
00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:16,560
Speaker 4: He would have like film sessions with me, just me

98
00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:20,599
Speaker 4: and him, and say, hey, come here and do this,

99
00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:24,640
Speaker 4: and I don't care about certain techniques, like I'm showing

100
00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,279
Speaker 4: you an easy way to get this job done or blocked.

101
00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:29,359
Speaker 4: And if you hit, oh line coach jails that you

102
00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:30,919
Speaker 4: just you know, just blame and put it on me.

103
00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:34,400
Speaker 4: But I'm telling you to do this, you know. And

104
00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,800
Speaker 4: he taught me things that made some things easier and

105
00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:41,200
Speaker 4: my job easier. And in a certain sense, I was like,

106
00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:42,960
Speaker 4: I wish I could have had him a little longer

107
00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,200
Speaker 4: because he was teaching me things that I was able

108
00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,720
Speaker 4: to use and and put on the field. But then

109
00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:49,400
Speaker 4: you know, when you get a new coach, they come

110
00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:51,360
Speaker 4: in and they kind of felt like they want to

111
00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,719
Speaker 4: teach you things. So after he left, a new group

112
00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:56,839
Speaker 4: came in and now they want to kind of almost

113
00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,080
Speaker 4: make you unlearn what you have been taught right to

114
00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,839
Speaker 4: do it their way, and you know, some things I

115
00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:03,840
Speaker 4: was still trying to hold onto. I was able to

116
00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:05,719
Speaker 4: still get the job done, but it might not have

117
00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:07,920
Speaker 4: been technically sound, but it was still getting a job done.

118
00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,599
Speaker 4: But I feel like he did a great job with me.

119
00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:14,120
Speaker 4: And his passion was offensive line, so he knew some things.

120
00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:17,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, in the group that you were part of, a

121
00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:21,000
Speaker 3: pretty legendary group. I mean guys like Matt Burke. You know,

122
00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,440
Speaker 3: I look at Corbyn Losina and you know, guys like

123
00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,840
Speaker 3: him who were Dave Dave Dixon were veterans when you

124
00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,440
Speaker 3: showed up that were there, but then later on being able,

125
00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,880
Speaker 3: you know, to play with like Steve Hutchinson and who

126
00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:33,479
Speaker 3: are who are?

127
00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:33,640
Speaker 2: So?

128
00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,280
Speaker 3: Who are the guys that you remember most that were

129
00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:37,280
Speaker 3: in that room with you?

130
00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:42,960
Speaker 4: I remembers and of course you know, of course Hutchison

131
00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,040
Speaker 4: and Dave Dixon and Matt Burke, And you said with Row,

132
00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,000
Speaker 4: I actually ran in a with Row recently at an

133
00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:59,280
Speaker 4: entrepreneur that Corbin Lesina like Lewinsky.

134
00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:58,760
Speaker 3: Remember, it doesn't surprise me because it's kind of that's

135
00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,000
Speaker 3: your group. That's the offensive line, right, You guys are

136
00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,720
Speaker 3: more like a family. But you enjoy those guys and

137
00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:06,280
Speaker 3: I did, And.

138
00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,120
Speaker 4: You know, it's funny. One player who I wish I

139
00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:11,240
Speaker 4: would have been able to play next to more but

140
00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:13,719
Speaker 4: we only got one game out of him was Tone

141
00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,359
Speaker 4: you FINDI. Yeah, he was like a big guy and

142
00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,160
Speaker 4: people were kind of like intimidated scared of him. So

143
00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,279
Speaker 4: it was like, good, I have another big guy, you

144
00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:22,120
Speaker 4: know what I mean next to me. And they, you know,

145
00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,640
Speaker 4: did so much to work him out and slim him down.

146
00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:26,480
Speaker 4: And then he was able to play one game. I

147
00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,520
Speaker 4: think it was Green Bay, and I think he might

148
00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:30,640
Speaker 4: have got injured or something in that game. I'm like,

149
00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:32,599
Speaker 4: oh gosh, Like I finally got a chance to play

150
00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:34,800
Speaker 4: next to this guy. You know, we both came out

151
00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:36,440
Speaker 4: the same year and he went to Nebraska. I played

152
00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,920
Speaker 4: against him in college, so he was a guy who

153
00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,640
Speaker 4: I looked forward to playing next to, Like a big,

154
00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,400
Speaker 4: strong guy. I didn't have to worry anything about worry

155
00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:46,599
Speaker 4: about him, you know, giving up any ground or anything.

156
00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,160
Speaker 4: And you know got like one game with.

157
00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,320
Speaker 3: Him, right and one and one guy that you were

158
00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,200
Speaker 3: able to not all the time be hitched up next

159
00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,680
Speaker 3: to his jim clein saucer. Oh yeah, and then you

160
00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:58,200
Speaker 3: know in this day and age of the league, you

161
00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,599
Speaker 3: don't see he just locked in times like blocking like that.

162
00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:04,320
Speaker 3: So having Jimmy next year that had to that had

163
00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:05,240
Speaker 3: to make you feel good.

164
00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,240
Speaker 4: Oh it did, because I knew he knew his assignment

165
00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:09,279
Speaker 4: and then I knew he didn't mind blocking. Where you

166
00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,320
Speaker 4: had other tight ends who was like make sure you

167
00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:13,120
Speaker 4: helped me, Like you know that's like I got the

168
00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,240
Speaker 4: hindle my job first. If I can, I'll come out

169
00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,240
Speaker 4: and give you some assistance. Where Jimmy didn't have to

170
00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,400
Speaker 4: worry about that, but the other Titans that just keep

171
00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:20,600
Speaker 4: in mind you like make sure you come out of

172
00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,240
Speaker 4: give me some help. Like you have the opportunity.

173
00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:24,760
Speaker 3: Nothing far you know, you have you have what goes

174
00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:26,360
Speaker 3: on and then you have far walk in the building.

175
00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:31,040
Speaker 3: And what was it like having him as as the quarterback,

176
00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:32,440
Speaker 3: as a guy called the plays.

177
00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,000
Speaker 4: I mean it was it was funny. Well it all started,

178
00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:37,640
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say back when we were in uh lunch

179
00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:39,720
Speaker 4: and we were watching the news and when you watch

180
00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,520
Speaker 4: the helicopter like followed the car he was in coming

181
00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:44,480
Speaker 4: to the facility. It was like, this is really happening.

182
00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,000
Speaker 4: And then so I went downstairs, you know, to change

183
00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,360
Speaker 4: you're ready for practice. I can't remember who the quarterback

184
00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:51,440
Speaker 4: was at the time, and we looked at his locker

185
00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:52,880
Speaker 4: because he were number four, and we looked at his

186
00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:53,960
Speaker 4: locker his number was different.

187
00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:55,840
Speaker 3: I said, it happened.

188
00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:59,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, you get out there, and I remember him, like

189
00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:01,760
Speaker 4: us being out there and he was like one of

190
00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:03,960
Speaker 4: the last ones to come and he comes right in

191
00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:05,840
Speaker 4: the huddle. My mind like how does he even know

192
00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,080
Speaker 4: the players? But he comes right in a huddle, and

193
00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:09,640
Speaker 4: I kind of was looking like this is the person

194
00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:11,680
Speaker 4: that we were trained like not to like all this song,

195
00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:13,680
Speaker 4: and like now he's in the huddle with us, and

196
00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:15,320
Speaker 4: I remember him like looking at him and he was

197
00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:17,679
Speaker 4: looking at me like it'll be okay, it'll be okay,

198
00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:19,240
Speaker 4: and I'm like, oh yeah, like snap out of it.

199
00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,600
Speaker 4: And I just want to say he's like one of

200
00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,440
Speaker 4: those people who I feel like there's players on certain

201
00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,840
Speaker 4: teams that everybody raises their level play up for and

202
00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:30,400
Speaker 4: as you can tell, for that season, everyone raised their

203
00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,000
Speaker 4: level of play up, and so he is. He falls

204
00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,480
Speaker 4: in the lines of a Ray Lewis because people can

205
00:08:35,480 --> 00:08:36,840
Speaker 4: get around him raise up. If you can look at

206
00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,200
Speaker 4: Tom Brady leave New England and go to Tampa, everybody

207
00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:42,079
Speaker 4: raises their level of play up. So he's in that

208
00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,760
Speaker 4: era of guys who can come into a locker room

209
00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,200
Speaker 4: and everybody raised their game up because they don't want

210
00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:48,280
Speaker 4: to feel like they want to let him down. I

211
00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,480
Speaker 4: feel like that was the closest the team has been

212
00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:54,680
Speaker 4: because everybody was on board and everybody wanted to play

213
00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:56,400
Speaker 4: well and not let him down because he was such

214
00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:56,840
Speaker 4: a legend.

215
00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:58,439
Speaker 3: You think that's what that? I mean that that was

216
00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,040
Speaker 3: gonna be my next question. What is it about those guys?

217
00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,920
Speaker 4: You've seen them displayed like greatness for so long that

218
00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:06,680
Speaker 4: you kind of want to show that you're good too,

219
00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:08,200
Speaker 4: and you don't want to let them down. So you

220
00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:11,440
Speaker 4: want to, you know, make sure you're accountable and there

221
00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,600
Speaker 4: to protect and make plays, and you know, you get

222
00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:16,040
Speaker 4: you know, get a win. And that was my best

223
00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,320
Speaker 4: record as a king as being twelve and four, and

224
00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,000
Speaker 4: that's the furtherest I had went too at the time,

225
00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,920
Speaker 4: was you know, to the NFC Championship.

226
00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,280
Speaker 3: Right, and then another guy back there, you know, maybe

227
00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:28,200
Speaker 3: a little bit before far, but still is the you know,

228
00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:32,680
Speaker 3: the best running back that I've seen more purple Adrian Peters. Yeah,

229
00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,640
Speaker 3: and so blocking for him, I mean when.

230
00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,040
Speaker 4: You had I mean, if you had Adrian Peterson, you

231
00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:40,360
Speaker 4: had Percy Harven, you had Sydney Race, you had like

232
00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:43,120
Speaker 4: a lot of great guys, right, And with Adrian, what

233
00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:47,120
Speaker 4: I learned with him early is, uh, it gave me

234
00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:48,520
Speaker 4: incentive to get out the way because he was just

235
00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,480
Speaker 4: running to your back. So it's like, Okay, let me

236
00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:52,400
Speaker 4: get my guy out this hole and out the way

237
00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:54,480
Speaker 4: so I don't have to worry about this man slamming

238
00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:55,120
Speaker 4: in the back of me.

239
00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,040
Speaker 3: So you're just going to run into something.

240
00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, he didn't mind if you were here, not like

241
00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:01,720
Speaker 4: he was going to make a hole. So it's like

242
00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:04,400
Speaker 4: it just gave you an incentive to really like keep

243
00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,280
Speaker 4: your feet moving and really just the drive your guy

244
00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:07,760
Speaker 4: at the hole so you can make a way for him.

245
00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,320
Speaker 3: What was did you have a moment in two thousand

246
00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,880
Speaker 3: and seven his first year where you were just looking

247
00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,640
Speaker 3: you know, you're just yeah, are you definitely. I mean,

248
00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:17,959
Speaker 3: like hold like the holy Cow moment when you knew

249
00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:19,800
Speaker 3: that this I've seen it coming.

250
00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:22,720
Speaker 4: I've seen it, you can see it coming. Uh, the

251
00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:26,000
Speaker 4: way he ran the ball, I just said, Okay, once

252
00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,120
Speaker 4: he gets down the pass protection, once he knows that

253
00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,920
Speaker 4: and knows who he may have the block of they blitz,

254
00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:34,240
Speaker 4: then he I could see him becoming the starter because

255
00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:36,680
Speaker 4: he was running the ball way better. But now it's like, okay,

256
00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:38,400
Speaker 4: outside of running ball, because we can't just put you

257
00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:40,440
Speaker 4: in there on run plays because then everybody know, oh

258
00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,239
Speaker 4: it's a run play. So we need you know both aspects.

259
00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:46,680
Speaker 4: And once he got that pass blocking part down, damn,

260
00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:49,640
Speaker 4: there's no stopping on it.

261
00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:53,360
Speaker 3: But it's it is it not a mentality when you

262
00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,080
Speaker 3: you're able to step on the field knowing that you

263
00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,080
Speaker 3: have him where you're like, Okay, you may win, you

264
00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:58,640
Speaker 3: may win it down here or two year, but we're

265
00:10:58,640 --> 00:10:59,920
Speaker 3: gonna wear We're gonna wear you out.

266
00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:00,120
Speaker 2: Ye.

267
00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,120
Speaker 4: Having a running back like that who doesn't mind running

268
00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,920
Speaker 4: people over and and all types of things like that,

269
00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,960
Speaker 4: that's just going to wear anybody down. And and me personally,

270
00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,959
Speaker 4: I didn't mind running the ball and wearing my opponent

271
00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,280
Speaker 4: down to you know, slow them down in the past

272
00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,840
Speaker 4: rush you know. So I was okay with that, especially

273
00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,600
Speaker 4: if I had a good day of you know, run blocking.

274
00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:20,520
Speaker 4: It's like run to the left. Let's you know, let's

275
00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:22,280
Speaker 4: get some yards on the ground.

276
00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:26,480
Speaker 2: Stick around for more school Stories presented by three M.

277
00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:30,160
Speaker 2: From the field to the roof and everywhere in between. Threem,

278
00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:33,120
Speaker 2: the official science partner of the Minnesota Vikings, is here.

279
00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:37,720
Speaker 2: Visit Vikings dot com slash school Science to learn more.

280
00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,400
Speaker 2: We'll be back with more from Brian McKitty, but first,

281
00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:45,920
Speaker 2: Unreal is back with their limited edition Vikings Drop head

282
00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:49,520
Speaker 2: to nurl dot com for more details.

283
00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,839
Speaker 3: Ready to have your spirits lifted and the laugh out

284
00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:58,400
Speaker 3: loud comedy Ghosts is for you. Ghosts is all new

285
00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,960
Speaker 3: every Thursday night at seven thirty Central over on CBS.

286
00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:05,040
Speaker 3: Welcome back to tonight's edition of school Stories presented by

287
00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,760
Speaker 3: three M. Let's get back into our conversation with Vikings

288
00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:12,280
Speaker 3: legend Brian McKinney. You remember any guys, uh defensive ends

289
00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:13,960
Speaker 3: of d Lineman that you want up against with that

290
00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:17,120
Speaker 3: you respect the most throughout your time a league.

291
00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,360
Speaker 4: When I first got to Minnesota, you know KGB with

292
00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:22,439
Speaker 4: somebody who I respected a lot because it was very slippery.

293
00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,960
Speaker 4: He lows to the ground in the past past protection wise.

294
00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:28,679
Speaker 3: And even by that you meant can be gabajja be

295
00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:29,319
Speaker 3: and meal yep.

296
00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,040
Speaker 4: Okay, So he was he was somebody who I respected

297
00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:33,640
Speaker 4: that lat because I had played two times a year

298
00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:37,280
Speaker 4: and I had to get adjusted to his style of play.

299
00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,120
Speaker 4: And other than that, I feel like everybody else, I

300
00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,560
Speaker 4: kind of felt good about it. Good against Yeah, I

301
00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:45,640
Speaker 4: feel like to me, honestly, the better which isn't good,

302
00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:47,200
Speaker 4: but the better the player was, the better I play.

303
00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,480
Speaker 4: So it's just because I just I don't know, I

304
00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:52,080
Speaker 4: should have prepared everybody saying, but it.

305
00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:55,040
Speaker 3: And and that's where I think, Brian you stand out.

306
00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,760
Speaker 3: I mean, I've been around this place for almost thirty years,

307
00:12:57,800 --> 00:13:00,640
Speaker 3: and that was the one thing about you was it's

308
00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,080
Speaker 3: just you could raise. You had the you had the

309
00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:06,960
Speaker 3: physical ability and capacity to no matter who you were

310
00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,240
Speaker 3: going against, raise your level of you know, raise your

311
00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,800
Speaker 3: level of play. And and so in that respect, you're

312
00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,199
Speaker 3: you're unique in the history of this team as a

313
00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:18,960
Speaker 3: left tackle. You eventually once once your tenure here at

314
00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,520
Speaker 3: the Vikings, you ended up with the Baltimore Ravens were

315
00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,840
Speaker 3: able to participate in the Super Bowl. Year you know

316
00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,800
Speaker 3: you missed, So you missed the NFC Championship? Was it everything?

317
00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,160
Speaker 3: Being able to do that? Was it? And this is

318
00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:31,720
Speaker 3: your chance to rub it in with all the Viking

319
00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,600
Speaker 3: fans because we never obviously won one. But to be

320
00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,680
Speaker 3: able to walk away hawk off the field winner, what

321
00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,000
Speaker 3: was that like? And it was year eleven.

322
00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,000
Speaker 4: So and then you remember the year before we had

323
00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,160
Speaker 4: went to the AFC Championship side my mom, I'm like,

324
00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:48,880
Speaker 4: this is my that's twice. Now. Yeah, I've gotten at

325
00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,560
Speaker 4: the door but just couldn't get in. So the third

326
00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:53,520
Speaker 4: year I finally made it, and it was like, now

327
00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,199
Speaker 4: that I'm here, it's like it's a year eleven, Like

328
00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,160
Speaker 4: you gotta at least win, Like I got here all

329
00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:00,760
Speaker 4: this time, so now it's like, I gotta win this

330
00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:02,840
Speaker 4: because it took me this long to get here, just

331
00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,960
Speaker 4: to get here. So and it was also myself and

332
00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:08,040
Speaker 4: Edrey we won a national championship together, and then now

333
00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:09,840
Speaker 4: we were both in the situation. I was like, listen,

334
00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:12,000
Speaker 4: it's both year eleven for us. This is the only

335
00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:14,400
Speaker 4: opportunity really, you know what I'm saying. So we had

336
00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:16,960
Speaker 4: to really just focus in and try to like do

337
00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,680
Speaker 4: our best to just kind of come out with a victory.

338
00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,760
Speaker 3: That was I think that's another thing about your career.

339
00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,080
Speaker 3: Your teammates, even mark you played, ed Reed is as

340
00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:27,080
Speaker 3: good of a safety as y ever played the game.

341
00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:30,320
Speaker 3: He was unbelievable. I mean, you know, the linebacker crews

342
00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:32,760
Speaker 3: and everybody you know, you talk about ray Lewis. I mean,

343
00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:34,720
Speaker 3: those guys make you better, don't they know?

344
00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:35,479
Speaker 4: Absolutely?

345
00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:37,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

346
00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,960
Speaker 4: I feel like throughout my career between the Vikings and

347
00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,560
Speaker 4: the Ravens, I played with some great guys.

348
00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:43,560
Speaker 3: We just talked.

349
00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,320
Speaker 4: I talked about that on an interview recently with Edrid James,

350
00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:48,200
Speaker 4: like the amount of players that I played with between

351
00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,040
Speaker 4: here and the Ravens who were definitely like great talents.

352
00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,680
Speaker 4: And then what's funny is in the Super Bowl actually

353
00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:54,960
Speaker 4: played against Randy Moss.

354
00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,240
Speaker 3: So you had the opportunity to go and play with

355
00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:03,000
Speaker 3: Harbaugh in Baltimore. What was it like, What was it

356
00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:04,840
Speaker 3: like playing for him? And what do you remember? What

357
00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:06,360
Speaker 3: do you remember about him as a head coach.

358
00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:09,680
Speaker 4: He was a tough for coach back then, because you know,

359
00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,320
Speaker 4: I've seen him two years ago and I said, I

360
00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:15,440
Speaker 4: know that you're not the same coach. It's no way

361
00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,280
Speaker 4: you're the same coach now that you were with us.

362
00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:20,480
Speaker 4: And he's like, no, actually I had to change that.

363
00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,200
Speaker 4: I could tell you. I could tell his interaction with

364
00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:24,840
Speaker 4: the players and everything. I could tell he's changed, and

365
00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:27,080
Speaker 4: like lightened up. He said, yeah, because he can't do

366
00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:29,280
Speaker 4: all the yelling and everything now because guys were shutting

367
00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,480
Speaker 4: down and he can't afford his top players to be

368
00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:33,400
Speaker 4: shutting down based off of his so he had to,

369
00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:36,440
Speaker 4: you know, figure things out. So me and him were okay.

370
00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:37,880
Speaker 4: I thought we would get along great because we had

371
00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:38,800
Speaker 4: the same exact birthday.

372
00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:39,920
Speaker 3: But we were cool.

373
00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, but yeah, he was just a different type of

374
00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,560
Speaker 4: coach at the time because mental health.

375
00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:51,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, you've seen you've participated in a pretty in a

376
00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:56,440
Speaker 3: very interesting transition. Yeah, transition like I mean when you

377
00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:58,880
Speaker 3: first got in the league, when and when we were coaching,

378
00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:01,640
Speaker 3: when Mike Tys was here. Yeah, you had two days,

379
00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,720
Speaker 3: you had eighty plays in nine on seven and you know,

380
00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:08,600
Speaker 3: I mean physically and then that I think started changing.

381
00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:10,920
Speaker 3: And then again, like you said, the mental health side

382
00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:11,440
Speaker 3: and just the.

383
00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,240
Speaker 4: Concussion, mental health, a lot of things started becoming in

384
00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:18,800
Speaker 4: play and you started backing off on things, So I

385
00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,400
Speaker 4: was there, I guess, for the transition, and then you

386
00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:23,200
Speaker 4: had social media that came into play and all that

387
00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,480
Speaker 4: stuff too, which wasn't there the beginning neither. So I

388
00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:28,600
Speaker 4: kind of was there at the beginning where it was

389
00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,680
Speaker 4: very old school and just hard nose, and then where

390
00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:33,200
Speaker 4: things kind of pulled back a little bit where you

391
00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:36,240
Speaker 4: only started having one practice, one pad of practice to

392
00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:39,520
Speaker 4: day and things like that, so I started to be

393
00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:40,440
Speaker 4: able to see the change.

394
00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:42,320
Speaker 3: Do you think seeing that change is kind of what's

395
00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:44,680
Speaker 3: propelling you into in the mental health work that you're

396
00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:45,160
Speaker 3: doing now?

397
00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:47,720
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, well no, really with propelled me in

398
00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,000
Speaker 4: that direction was when I retired. There was a couple

399
00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:52,200
Speaker 4: of other guys retired around the same time as me, and

400
00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,640
Speaker 4: they were having a tough time, I guess, transitioning and

401
00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,640
Speaker 4: then having conversations with me because they didn't feel comfortable,

402
00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:00,600
Speaker 4: you know, talking to their family things like that, because

403
00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:02,120
Speaker 4: they were to go to a person for their family,

404
00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,280
Speaker 4: so they wanted to talk to other people who've been through,

405
00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,679
Speaker 4: you know, what they've been through. And I sort of

406
00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:08,159
Speaker 4: realized like, oh, this is the thing, like you know,

407
00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:10,159
Speaker 4: you would hear people talk about it, but then I

408
00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,760
Speaker 4: started seeing it and then like I see, like you know,

409
00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:14,479
Speaker 4: a player had got a bigger act before and had

410
00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:15,880
Speaker 4: to go to a psych war and I went down

411
00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:17,360
Speaker 4: there to visit. So I was like, oh, this is real,

412
00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:19,960
Speaker 4: So let me try to figure out how I can

413
00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:21,760
Speaker 4: kind of put this out there more and where people

414
00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:25,080
Speaker 4: can go to for some type of help or assistance

415
00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:26,400
Speaker 4: when they're dealing with somebody going through.

416
00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,600
Speaker 3: So thank you, you know, Brian, for your time. Let

417
00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,560
Speaker 3: everybody know again kind of what your what your ventures are,

418
00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:34,959
Speaker 3: and what you're doing and what you're up to.

419
00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:38,960
Speaker 4: Let's chat which is a language translation based a vice

420
00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:41,320
Speaker 4: the vice setting in real time, so l e t

421
00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:44,199
Speaker 4: z chat dot com. They can go there and they

422
00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:47,080
Speaker 4: can give you like a little video basically of what

423
00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:50,840
Speaker 4: it is the company does and CANSO my be major foundation,

424
00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:54,720
Speaker 4: which is mental health, healthy kids, healthy living, and singing

425
00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:55,359
Speaker 4: parent homes.

426
00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:57,720
Speaker 3: All right, man, well, great to see. Thanks for your time,

427
00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:00,960
Speaker 3: and you know, hopefully we'll be able to Siana sideline

428
00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,280
Speaker 3: in one of the games, so we can't miss you, right,

429
00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:06,280
Speaker 3: all right, thank you, thank you.

430
00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,720
Speaker 2: Well, thanks again to Brian McKinney for joining the show.

431
00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:14,000
Speaker 2: It's always great to hear him doing well and giving

432
00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:17,119
Speaker 2: back to the game of football, all right, Pete Bursus.

433
00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,600
Speaker 2: After the so called mini by we jump right back

434
00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,400
Speaker 2: into the heart of the schedule with another primetime game.

435
00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:26,040
Speaker 2: The game's been flexed. Week nine. After the thirty twenty

436
00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:29,359
Speaker 2: loss disappointing loss in Los Angeles against the Rams, the

437
00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,760
Speaker 2: Vikings are back home to take on the Indianapolis Colts

438
00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,520
Speaker 2: Sunday night at US Bank Stadium. The Cults are coming

439
00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,320
Speaker 2: off of twenty three to twenty loss to the Texans

440
00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:43,560
Speaker 2: in which Anthony Richardson was sacked five times. Just really

441
00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:46,000
Speaker 2: never look comfortable. Now, what do you want to see

442
00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:48,320
Speaker 2: from this Vikings defense. It's got a lot of room

443
00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,800
Speaker 2: for improvement right now this Sunday night. And what do

444
00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:52,960
Speaker 2: you think will be the key to containing Indianapolis?

445
00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:56,840
Speaker 3: Well, I very rarely in life or in football especially

446
00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:58,960
Speaker 3: do you get the opportunity to lose a game on

447
00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:02,120
Speaker 3: national TV was watched by millions of people and then

448
00:19:02,200 --> 00:19:04,960
Speaker 3: get the opportunity just ten days later to go back

449
00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,959
Speaker 3: and kind of reset it. Right, You have an opportunity

450
00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,959
Speaker 3: to get back out there and show another face, just

451
00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,879
Speaker 3: like with the Rams and how they improve from a

452
00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,479
Speaker 3: Sunday to a Thursday. The Viks need to do that

453
00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,120
Speaker 3: from a Thursday to the following Sunday. Now you're gonna

454
00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:22,919
Speaker 3: be doing it, you know, without Christian darrisaw So you

455
00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:24,680
Speaker 3: have a few extra days to get the rest of

456
00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:27,480
Speaker 3: those guys ready, all that out, the remaining offensive line,

457
00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:29,199
Speaker 3: they all have to pick up their game if this

458
00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,440
Speaker 3: offense wants to continue on its way. But defensively, that's

459
00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,960
Speaker 3: I think the big question mark. It's been a couple

460
00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,800
Speaker 3: of weeks now in a row of just mental errors,

461
00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:40,119
Speaker 3: not being able to make adjustments, and then the pressure

462
00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:43,080
Speaker 3: on the quarterback has you know, you go into the

463
00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:46,440
Speaker 3: Rams game twenty three sacks and then boom, you have none, right,

464
00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:50,440
Speaker 3: so that that turn there has to be changed. I

465
00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:54,160
Speaker 3: think having Cashman will help, but just getting everybody back

466
00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,119
Speaker 3: on the same page and getting that intensity back and

467
00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,480
Speaker 3: that attitude back, and it just seemed it just seemed

468
00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:02,480
Speaker 3: as if the Rams hit us with shifts and motions

469
00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,080
Speaker 3: in every play and there was indecisiveness, and that just

470
00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:06,880
Speaker 3: you can't be indecisive in this game.

471
00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:08,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's always a game of adjustments. So I'm sure

472
00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,960
Speaker 2: the culture looking at that game tape obviously and what

473
00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:13,680
Speaker 2: the Rams did well with the Lions did well, but

474
00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:15,720
Speaker 2: you have to have the personnel to pull it off.

475
00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:17,760
Speaker 2: But on more importantly, what is Brian Flory is doing,

476
00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,479
Speaker 2: as you mentioned, to kind of make those adjustments because

477
00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,280
Speaker 2: we've watched both for the most part, Jared Goff and

478
00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:27,240
Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford two quarterbacks with big connections in their career,

479
00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:29,240
Speaker 2: they're kind of sitting back in the old rock and

480
00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:30,359
Speaker 2: share of the last couple of weeks.

481
00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, And you know for Stafford, he early in the

482
00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,040
Speaker 3: first half of the game, he didn't sit in the pocket.

483
00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:39,480
Speaker 3: It was quick screen, quick throw, run the football. They

484
00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:41,520
Speaker 3: had eighty seven yards rushing in the first half, so

485
00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,320
Speaker 3: that's how they kept pressure off Stafford. And then once

486
00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:47,639
Speaker 3: the game wore on and our defense had twenty twenty

487
00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,720
Speaker 3: five minutes a game, it was it was really the

488
00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,080
Speaker 3: about six minutes left to go, because I you know,

489
00:20:53,359 --> 00:20:55,800
Speaker 3: went back and looked about six minutes to go in

490
00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:59,080
Speaker 3: the third quarter is when they really started to allow

491
00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,560
Speaker 3: Stafford to sit in the pocket. And by that time,

492
00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:05,280
Speaker 3: our our rush head you know, pretty much evaporated, at

493
00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,600
Speaker 3: least especially a four man rush. That's kind of the thing.

494
00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:12,960
Speaker 3: Grenard is still our most consistent pass rusher. It's it's

495
00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:16,560
Speaker 3: everybody else that's out there in those situations. And I'm

496
00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:20,359
Speaker 3: talking bass downs. I'm talking first and second down, third down.

497
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,000
Speaker 3: We can sub some guys in and create some things,

498
00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:27,240
Speaker 3: but those base down passing plays uh uh late in

499
00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,640
Speaker 3: the game, that's that's that's where we need someone more

500
00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:31,640
Speaker 3: than just Grenard to get after the quarterback.

501
00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:35,160
Speaker 2: We really expect to see the return of TJ. Hockinson.

502
00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:36,960
Speaker 2: We've been talking about it for a long time and

503
00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,520
Speaker 2: what can he do to help kind of diversify this

504
00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,400
Speaker 2: likings offense on Sunday Night.

505
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,560
Speaker 3: Well, I think he can help bring a shorter passing

506
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,840
Speaker 3: game right and we saw what the We saw what

507
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:48,960
Speaker 3: the Rams did to us, and the quick slants and

508
00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 3: some of those things. Our style of passing game is

509
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,560
Speaker 3: Darnold in the pocket for a while right down the field.

510
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,400
Speaker 3: Those kinds of things. Those may have to come off

511
00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,680
Speaker 3: of play actions now, but a quick passing game on

512
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,159
Speaker 3: base downs is going to have to center around I

513
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:04,119
Speaker 3: think around the tight end.

514
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,880
Speaker 2: Reminded, the vikings of the Colts game has been flexed.

515
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,359
Speaker 2: Check those tickets to Sunday Night Football over on NBC.

516
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 3: It's a seven to.

517
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,440
Speaker 2: Twenty pm kickoff right here in the Twin Cities, so

518
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 2: be sure to check your local listings for details. Of course,

519
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:19,040
Speaker 2: you can also catch Paul Allen, Ben Leber, and yes,

520
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,920
Speaker 2: Pete Bursich with the call right here all across the

521
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,840
Speaker 2: Vikings Radio network. The Vikings Football Sunday pregame show starts

522
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 2: at five pm and kfan, so be sure to tune

523
00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:30,919
Speaker 2: in with host Mike Mussman and the rest of the

524
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:31,640
Speaker 2: crew leading.

525
00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:32,160
Speaker 3: Up to kickoff.

526
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,760
Speaker 2: Pete's aways a pleasure, and thanks again to Bryan McKinney

527
00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,040
Speaker 2: for joining the show, and thank you fans for tuning

528
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,359
Speaker 2: into another edition of Skull Stories presented by three M

529
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 2: the official science partner of the Minnesota Vikings. We'll see

530
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:45,159
Speaker 2: you all again next week.