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Speaker 1: It's ge Scott and we're live here from the Players

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Speaker 1: Lounge joining us today. One of the people that's gonna

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Speaker 1: be joining us today Frank Clark. Frank, which is no, good,

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Speaker 1: bron No, how you doing man? Good good? I see

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Speaker 1: you got that that that good good checking right there

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Speaker 1: it looked like eating you got that good afterwards special. Now,

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Speaker 1: everybody that's listening right now, we'll have some more people

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Speaker 1: that's gonna sit down with us, but right now sit

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Speaker 1: joining us the Players Lounge is Frank Clark and Frank,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna start off the show with it. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: do something risky here. What's on Frank Clark's mind? Go

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Speaker 1: whatever you're thinking about, let it go. I say, the

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Speaker 1: biggest thing that's in my mind is, you know, you

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Speaker 1: know the issues of in our country over. You know,

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Speaker 1: the social injustice and you know the Kaepernick issue. You know,

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Speaker 1: people making it, you know, such a big deal, you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean as far as and not really

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Speaker 1: what I mean. And I think Colin Kaepernick was just

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Speaker 1: it's it comes down to a specific skin color or

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Speaker 1: a specific group of people who the other group of

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Speaker 1: people don't like, you know, when you talk about all

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Speaker 1: the social injustices that are going on, and let's scale back,

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Speaker 1: I want do you can you tell us a story

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Speaker 1: about the first time that you yourself felt and experienced racism. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like I said, I can't remember from you know, it's

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Speaker 1: so traumatizing it doesn't leave your memory. Happened to me

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Speaker 1: You know, just walking home like a normal you know,

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Speaker 1: up because I'm a black kid. I can't remember what

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Speaker 1: It kind of opened me up to new things. You know,

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Speaker 1: we're joined here by Frank Clark here on the players Lounge,

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Speaker 1: and you know, Frank, one of the I believe the

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Speaker 1: biggest misconceptions that it's out there right now is that

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Speaker 1: sometimes I don't think that people think that you might

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Speaker 1: But then you got to peep how they look at you.

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Speaker 1: When to go, oh, that's Frank Clark, the black guy,

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Speaker 1: Is there are times that you see some of this

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Speaker 1: it does. Man. You know, it's just sad, you know

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Speaker 1: because for years our ancests with different people, you know, black, white,

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Speaker 1: for years a group of people have fought to change

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Speaker 1: this specific thing, the injustice part, right, You know that

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Speaker 1: and it's I mean it's injustice, yeah, because it's one

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Speaker 1: and um, you know this is a heavy conversation. But

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Speaker 1: one thing I like to do, Frank, is is how

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Speaker 1: how do we progress? And how do we go forward?

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Speaker 1: How can we talk to our children? Frank, I said,

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Speaker 1: up in the suburbs. Sorry, but when you grow up

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