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Speaker 2: This here's the Daily Show with your host Michael Costom.
Speaker 1: Welcome, So I'm Michael Gosta. We've gotten so much to
Speaker 1: talk about tonight. RFK Junior tries to act normal for
Speaker 1: a day, Americans figure out how to live without social media,
Speaker 1: and we'll tell you the worst way to kill a mouse.
Speaker 1: But first, let's get to the latest news on the
Speaker 1: Trump administration. In another edition of the Second Coming of
Speaker 1: Donald J. Trump, I'm gonna come. Today is a big
Speaker 1: day for Donald Trump's cabinet and the government. One not
Speaker 1: the one filled with golf trophies he gave himself. That's
Speaker 1: because today was the world's weirdest episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm,
Speaker 1: also known as Robert F. Kennedy Jr's confirmation hearing to
Speaker 1: lead the Department of Health. And look, we all remember
Speaker 1: the stories about this guy from the campaign. The dead
Speaker 1: bear cub he dumped in Central Park. The time he
Speaker 1: sought off the head of a dead whale and tied
Speaker 1: it to the roof of his car. The worm that
Speaker 1: died after eating part of his brain. Basically, if there's
Speaker 1: an animal corpse anywhere in America, RFK Jr. Is probably involved.
Speaker 1: But what most people are most concerned about when it
Speaker 1: comes to RFK Junior is this long history of speaking
Speaker 1: out again vaccines. And I'm not talking your run of
Speaker 1: the mill concerns like should I still get a flu
Speaker 1: shot if I don't care about getting other people sick?
Speaker 1: Or do I need an HPV vaccine if I only
Speaker 1: do hands stuff. I'm talking about rfk Jr. Saying things
Speaker 1: like autism is caused by vaccines, or that it's just
Speaker 1: not true that vaccines are why smallpox, measles, and polio
Speaker 1: were eradicated, or that there are no vaccines that are
Speaker 1: safe and effective. Basically, putting this guy in charge of
Speaker 1: America's vaccines is like making Elon Musk a Walmart greeter. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell rfk Jr. The same thing I tell
Speaker 1: myself every morning before I host the Daily Show. You
Speaker 1: are not qualified for this job. Don't clap in that
Speaker 1: don't have a shit. You're clapping because I and that's
Speaker 1: why medical experts around the country are sounding the alarm.
Speaker 3: Ahead of the hearings.
Speaker 4: More than fifteen thousand doctors have signed a letter urging
Speaker 4: senators to vote against confirming him.
Speaker 1: Whoa fifteen thousand doctors signed this letter. Of course, we
Speaker 1: don't know who they are because they all just signed
Speaker 1: it like this, but that's a big number. And even
Speaker 1: his own family is coming out against him. Not only
Speaker 1: because of his medical views, he's also just not right.
Speaker 1: In the Old worm.
Speaker 5: Chamber, Caroline Kennedy RFK Junior's first cousin and the daughter
Speaker 5: of President John F. Kennedy warning the senator's task with
Speaker 5: confirming her cousin to be the nation's health secretary, that
Speaker 5: they should vote.
Speaker 4: Know.
Speaker 6: I've known Bobby my whole life. We grew up together.
Speaker 6: It's no surprise that he keeps birds of prey as pets,
Speaker 6: because Bobby himself is a predator. His basement, his garage,
Speaker 6: his dorm room. We're always the center of the action.
Speaker 1: Center of the action. Cool dorm what's wrong with that?
Speaker 1: All right? And while you answer, I'll just take a
Speaker 1: sip of this delicious looking smoothie that RFK Jr. Sent me.
Speaker 6: His basement, his garage, his dorm room were always the
Speaker 6: center of the action where drugs were available, and he
Speaker 6: enjoyed showing off how he put baby chickens and mice
Speaker 6: in a blender to feed to his hawks.
Speaker 1: He was putting baby chickens and mice in a blender.
Speaker 1: And ladies, you thought it was bad when a guy
Speaker 1: brought you back to his dorm room and busted out
Speaker 1: a guitar. Now, I'm not sure her statement will have
Speaker 1: much sway, because, first of all, blending food, that's just
Speaker 1: how you feed a hawk. If you've ever looked, it's
Speaker 1: their nests, you see, they have a little neutral bullet
Speaker 1: right in there. And also, we all have a crazy cousin.
Speaker 1: It's the cousin rule of three, right, there's a crazy one,
Speaker 1: a quiet one, and one that we secretly think is hot.
Speaker 1: What's up, Stephanie? But for real, are there no stories
Speaker 1: where Kennedy interacts with an animal like a normal person.
Speaker 1: Just once? I want someone to be like, yeah, one
Speaker 1: time RFK went up to a dog and rubbed his belly. Instead,
Speaker 1: every story is like and that's when RFK kicked a
Speaker 1: miniature horse in his vagina. But with all this baggage
Speaker 1: his vagina. But with all this baggage, RFK Jr. Had
Speaker 1: one important thing. He had to do when he sat
Speaker 1: down for his hearing today, just try and sound slightly
Speaker 1: normal for like two hours. Take it away, Bobby, What
Speaker 1: do you really believe about vaccines?
Speaker 7: I believe that that vaccines play a critical role in healthcare.
Speaker 8: All of my kids are vaccinated.
Speaker 1: Man, that velvet voice is good enough for me. What
Speaker 1: are you gonna believe is well documented, decades long record
Speaker 1: or the thing he said today when he was trying
Speaker 1: to get a job. Besides, all his kids are vaccinated.
Speaker 1: He definitely doesn't regret that, right right.
Speaker 7: What would I do if I could go back in
Speaker 7: time and I could avoid giving my children and the
Speaker 7: vaccines that I gave them, I would do anything for that.
Speaker 7: I would pay anything to be able to do that.
Speaker 1: That is the worst answer to what you would do
Speaker 1: with the time machine that I have ever heard. You
Speaker 1: can't think of anyone else in your family that you
Speaker 1: would go back in time and try and try and
Speaker 1: try to prove man a shot from happening. Robert F.
Speaker 1: Kennedy Junior, no one else, which reminds me. You know
Speaker 1: what I've done. If I would have had a time machine,
Speaker 1: I would have gone back and made sure Stephanie and
Speaker 1: I weren't cousins, so Sephanie. All right, let's get back
Speaker 1: on track, because Kennedy was trying to present himself as
Speaker 1: a new man, but a lot of senators seemed determined
Speaker 1: to make sure he didn't run too far from his past.
Speaker 2: Did you say lyme disease is a highly likely militarily
Speaker 2: engineered bioweapon.
Speaker 8: I probably did say that.
Speaker 2: Did you say that COVID nineteen was a genetically engineered
Speaker 2: bioweapon the targets black and white people but spared Ashkenazi,
Speaker 2: Jews and Chinese people.
Speaker 1: I didn't say it was deliberately targeted.
Speaker 2: Did you write in your book and it's undeniable? Did
Speaker 2: African AIDS is an entirely different disease from Western AIDS? Yes?
Speaker 2: Or no, mister Kennedy, Not sure.
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ. This guy has said so many things that
Speaker 1: he can't remember. If he said black AIDS is different
Speaker 1: from white as white age is so bland and they
Speaker 1: put raisins in it, don't bring that white aide.
Speaker 8: To my cook app.
Speaker 1: This is you guys aren't sure how to react to
Speaker 1: the voice. This is the story of the hearing. Senators
Speaker 1: would question him on past statements, and he would deny them.
Speaker 1: Now one Senator though, actually brought receipts, adorable receipts.
Speaker 2: Your organization is making money selling a child's product to
Speaker 2: parents for twenty six bucks, which casts fundamental doubt on
Speaker 2: the usefulness of vaccines. One of them is diled onun facts, unafraid.
Speaker 2: Next one is no vas no problem. Are you supportive
Speaker 2: of these this clothing.
Speaker 7: Which is militantly anti I am supportive of vaccines, With
Speaker 7: you supportive.
Speaker 8: Of these onesies?
Speaker 1: Wow? Wow, I never realized how much I would enjoy
Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders talking about baby clothes and these little cornu
Speaker 1: roy dungarees.
Speaker 8: Why do they have pockets?
Speaker 1: A baby doesn't need to carry around a wall in
Speaker 1: her car keys? Do you support that? But look, I'm
Speaker 1: not a doctor and I have no basis for my
Speaker 1: medical opinions, much like RFK Junior. So if we're going
Speaker 1: to criticize him, then in the interest of fairness, we
Speaker 1: here at the Daily Show want to hear from one
Speaker 1: of his supporters. So from a different perspective, please welcome
Speaker 1: the poliovirus.
Speaker 9: Hello, Hello, Michael, thank you so much for having me on.
Speaker 1: Let's hug No, that's okay, that's Okay, I don't want
Speaker 1: to get you. But how how are you feeling after
Speaker 1: watching the hearings today?
Speaker 9: I feel reborn, Michael energized. I am excited to get
Speaker 9: back to work. Across America. We should celebrate. Let's let's
Speaker 9: breathe on each other.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I don't want to get polio. I know
Speaker 1: the damage you've done to millions of Americans.
Speaker 9: Millions of amazing Americans. Take FDR for example. I gave
Speaker 9: that man something to overcome, you know, I gave him
Speaker 9: a signature. Look the wheelchair blanket combo.
Speaker 1: That was all me.
Speaker 9: Okay, Oh how about.
Speaker 1: Francis Ford Coppola. He had polio?
Speaker 9: Yes, and if he hadn't, who knows if he would
Speaker 9: have gone on and make that movie Megalopolis.
Speaker 1: That's your Francis Ford Coppola movie.
Speaker 4: I know, I know.
Speaker 9: Yeah, most people say Godfather Part Three, But.
Speaker 1: No, no, they don't. You know. This is the same
Speaker 1: thing with RFK. I remember what you've done, and you're
Speaker 1: not going to trick me into being so friendly right now?
Speaker 9: Friendly that that's so sweet?
Speaker 1: Let's kiss? No, No, thank you?
Speaker 9: Fine, fine, just let me spit in your mouth a
Speaker 9: li no, Look, I promise It's not gonna be like
Speaker 9: polio was before, you know, with all the canceled pool
Speaker 9: parties and the iron lungs. They're so clunky. I am
Speaker 9: working with a whole new team for my comeback. This
Speaker 9: time your team, Yes, RFK Junior, the trad wife community,
Speaker 9: justin Baldoni's crisis PR Firm.
Speaker 1: Okay, I think life would be better if you didn't
Speaker 1: come back at all.
Speaker 9: Well, I'm sorry you feel that way. Can can we
Speaker 9: just talk about it over drinks? Maybe we share a toothbrush.
Speaker 9: Stop trying to infect me. This is my purpose, Michael,
Speaker 9: and you need to get on board because RFK is
Speaker 9: gonna be confirmed and I'm gonna be everywhere schools, hospitals,
Speaker 9: plane bus club, another club.
Speaker 1: Another club again, get it, I get it.
Speaker 9: The point is, thanks to RFK Junior, I'm coming back.
Speaker 9: So you better kiss your little legs goodbye, because once
Speaker 9: I get in those neurons, I'm gonna sorry, excuse me,
Speaker 9: I'm gonna be ruining all of.
Speaker 1: Are you all right?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 9: So I just I keep coughing and I'm getting red
Speaker 9: splotches all over my body.
Speaker 1: It sounds like you have measles. Did you get your
Speaker 1: measles vaccine.
Speaker 9: No, Rfk Junior said I didn't need one. Did he
Speaker 9: not know what he was talking about?
Speaker 1: Oh? No, I'm disappearing.
Speaker 9: I need true love's kiss.
Speaker 1: Michael, hurry, lick my tongue. You know, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm just.
Speaker 8: I'm just gonna let him die.
Speaker 1: Holy yo, everyone, he's dead. When we come back, we
Speaker 1: find out what you really think of social media.
Speaker 8: So don't go along.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to the DNA Show. You might remember during
Speaker 1: the presidential campaign, Elon Musk jumped like a dork into
Speaker 1: the race for Donald Trump, and that caused a backlash
Speaker 1: for his website.
Speaker 10: The social media platform blue Sky, a competitor to X,
Speaker 10: has gained millions of followers in the weeks following the
Speaker 10: presidential election, a trend do you in part to dissatisfied
Speaker 10: liberals leaving the Elon Musk owned X platform.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that'll show Elon Musk. You know, I'm gonna waste
Speaker 1: my life pushing a different set of buttons on my phone. Haha,
Speaker 1: Tell my kids I never saw them. Of course, Elon
Speaker 1: isn't the only social media boss who's drifted towards Trump.
Speaker 1: Grace Koolenschmidt asked New Yorkers what they think about their
Speaker 1: favorite platforms.
Speaker 4: Right now, the world is up in arms about social
Speaker 4: media companies being run by Trump a mined billionaires.
Speaker 3: But are they mad enough to get off the apps?
Speaker 3: Let's put this on TikTok and find.
Speaker 9: Out that actually made me so mad?
Speaker 1: You seem pissed.
Speaker 4: It definitely just feels very propaganda, incredibly angry, and to
Speaker 4: see it so blatantly broadcasted that like the wealth of
Speaker 4: I mean combined wealth of like trillion dollars, like sits
Speaker 4: right in front of the cabinet, right next to the president.
Speaker 3: I mean, do you think the anger is justified? Yes? Yes, complete.
Speaker 3: I think you guys are so pissed you're like about
Speaker 3: to punch me. Calm down.
Speaker 9: Trump sucks, so it's kind of I don't know.
Speaker 4: I just he's gonna be pissed to hear you say that,
Speaker 4: though he really likes you.
Speaker 11: What apps are.
Speaker 3: Mostly Instagram and TikTok?
Speaker 12: I'm on Instagram and Snapchat.
Speaker 3: Okay, Instagram and X.
Speaker 4: So if you mostly use Instagram, at what point would
Speaker 4: you be like, Okay, I have to get off this app.
Speaker 12: When I'm opening Instagram. I'm not being rutten by Mark Zuckerberg,
Speaker 12: I'm I'm deciding, like, all right, I'm gonna go on
Speaker 12: here and yeah, like kind of finding more cooking things.
Speaker 4: An amazing one pop pasta recipe. It's actually five being
Speaker 4: monetized to Trump.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I'm like, I don't, I don't.
Speaker 3: Do you think you'd be willing to pick an app
Speaker 3: and delete one with me?
Speaker 1: Today?
Speaker 4: We don't even need social media when we have books
Speaker 4: like this, like I'll read just a little okay, okay,
Speaker 4: I won't for you with it Tuesday mixed berries and
Speaker 4: chia seeds.
Speaker 3: Wednesday honey and Greek yogurt. So what would it take
Speaker 3: you to delete the app Instagram?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 9: I mean I deleted it last week.
Speaker 3: I'll probably delete it again.
Speaker 9: We don't need.
Speaker 3: It, but you do say you keep re downloading it?
Speaker 12: I do.
Speaker 4: So what do you think Mark Zuckerberg could do to
Speaker 4: make you kind of kick it out?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 8: I'm probably already no, no enough, Yeah, we probably should
Speaker 8: delete the app?
Speaker 3: Do you guys want to do it?
Speaker 9: I read now?
Speaker 4: Wait, I saw this post that was like people get
Speaker 4: fomo from not being on social media, but then they
Speaker 4: get phomo from real life from being.
Speaker 3: On social media.
Speaker 1: Oh fat.
Speaker 7: Is that like really?
Speaker 1: Beta?
Speaker 3: No, I need to go back to school over my head.
Speaker 3: All right, I'll delete with you.
Speaker 1: Can we do together? Yeah, we'll do it together.
Speaker 9: This is a beautiful one.
Speaker 8: I'm gonna delete.
Speaker 3: I don't know, it doesn't count, but for the sake
Speaker 3: of this, I mean here, you can choose one.
Speaker 4: Go with ian B because I don't stop renting little houses.
Speaker 3: We'll delete it after one. Okay, three release?
Speaker 11: All right?
Speaker 1: Two one.
Speaker 2: You're such a power.
Speaker 9: There's such a.
Speaker 3: You don't understand.
Speaker 1: You were doing this together together, do it and I
Speaker 1: can't get off.
Speaker 9: Wow, I really got people of chain their minds and
Speaker 9: delete these apps and divest from billionaires.
Speaker 3: So go ahead and like, follow and subscribe for more.
Speaker 8: Thank you, Grace.
Speaker 1: When we come back, Rachel Mason will be joined him
Speaker 1: on the show.
Speaker 8: Hello, Welcome back to the Other Show.
Speaker 1: My guest tonight is a filmmaker whose new HBOS documentary
Speaker 1: series is called An Update on Our Family. Please welcome
Speaker 1: Rachel Mason. Rachel Mason is here. WHOA How fun is this?
Speaker 1: How fun is this?
Speaker 3: I'm tripping?
Speaker 1: You're trippingly You're usually them pointing the camera at somebody.
Speaker 11: Oh yeah, I'm never on this side ever so cool man.
Speaker 1: This docuseries is excellent, excellent, excellent. I was mad, I
Speaker 1: was mad again, I felt something, I felt, I had
Speaker 1: all different perspectives. What is family vlogging? For those of
Speaker 1: us that don't.
Speaker 4: Know, Wow, Well I'm glad those reactions all happened because
Speaker 4: that was that was what we felt.
Speaker 3: Well, we were working on the show.
Speaker 4: And I say we because you know, documentaries are made
Speaker 4: collectively with a bunch of people, and family vlogging is
Speaker 4: the practice of filming one's family for a channel, a
Speaker 4: YouTube channel usually, or you know social media generally.
Speaker 1: Who is watching that? I mean, I don't even want
Speaker 1: to look at my friend's kids pictures? But then these
Speaker 1: families have millions of subscribers and views and brand deals.
Speaker 1: What's the appeal?
Speaker 3: I mean?
Speaker 4: This is why we needed Hannah cho who if you
Speaker 4: watch our series, guides us through because she's the ultimate fan.
Speaker 4: And I had those same questions watching the content, but
Speaker 4: realizing this is one of YouTube's biggest verticals. So billions
Speaker 4: of views are on these videos. It's it is huge
Speaker 4: and vast, and that's why in the opening of our
Speaker 4: series we actually talk about the draw that shows like
Speaker 4: the Kardashians or the Osborne's have had for years and
Speaker 4: even going back earlier.
Speaker 3: There are other shows like.
Speaker 4: On PBS, people sometimes watch which is you know, that's
Speaker 4: where it all started, Like people watched these families doing
Speaker 4: their thing, and there is a draw.
Speaker 1: But I know it doesn't always seem like it. But
Speaker 1: traditional TV there are some guardrails. There are producers. There
Speaker 1: are people that come over here in between the act
Speaker 1: and say, Michael, you up, You're coming to work tomorrow?
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly.
Speaker 1: But for YouTube, the producer, the writer, the accountant, the HR,
Speaker 1: it's the mom, it's the.
Speaker 11: Dad, exactly, And it's so.
Speaker 1: The actors are the kids. So let's talk about the
Speaker 1: E word. I don't know what that is. No exploitation.
Speaker 1: I talked about exploitation. Okay, yeah, families are profiting financially,
Speaker 1: but so much of their content is a six year
Speaker 1: old playing in a sandbox or refusing to eat the
Speaker 1: dinosaur chicken nuggets or whatever. Is this exploitation?
Speaker 3: I mean, that's the central question here.
Speaker 4: And I think this also takes us into larger questions
Speaker 4: about kids in entertainment as well, because learning about family channels,
Speaker 4: it really you know, when I was doing the research
Speaker 4: for it, I was actually thinking, well, what kid could
Speaker 4: we find.
Speaker 3: That I could say, what was it like for you
Speaker 3: doing this?
Speaker 4: And you know, there's hardly any who are old enough,
Speaker 4: although a few that are have come out recently and spoken,
Speaker 4: but when we were making this.
Speaker 3: It was hard to find them.
Speaker 11: So I actually realized, oh, well, I guess we could.
Speaker 4: Turn to the world of regular entertainment and those kids
Speaker 4: that grew up on some level on TV. And in
Speaker 4: a similar way, I had that thought, well, well, yes
Speaker 4: they consented, but did they fully leave the sent at
Speaker 4: age six to you know? Yeah, and you wonder that
Speaker 4: so there's always that dynamic where a parent might really
Speaker 4: want to do this thing, and yeah, that that question
Speaker 4: exists around kids.
Speaker 1: I am terrified to show my kids at all. Uh.
Speaker 1: And that's my moral code. That's not because they're ugoes.
Speaker 1: I don't like I don't like that my daughter is
Speaker 1: five now starts to notice when the camera's out and
Speaker 1: behave differently for the camera. Right that that was a
Speaker 1: It feels to me like the one pure innocent thing
Speaker 1: that's left is a child's belief in the world and innocence.
Speaker 1: And to me, this is me watching your wonderful doctor sriies.
Speaker 1: It made me so angry that the parents are taking
Speaker 1: that from their kids. Is that is that a fair?
Speaker 3: I mean, I think that's a really poignant and that I'm.
Speaker 1: Trying to get you to say yes, but you're not
Speaker 1: got it, because that's what this documentaries does so well,
Speaker 1: as it gets you to think about a lot of
Speaker 1: different thing and that was important to you and are
Speaker 1: you a parent? And did that inform you making this?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: No, I have a son who's twelve now, and I
Speaker 4: think about that because actually that I think that distinction
Speaker 4: is also pretty big.
Speaker 3: Weirdly, from six, yeah, twelve twelve, like good luck.
Speaker 4: Getting your phone out of a twelve You're like everyone
Speaker 4: has a phone and they're playing a million games and
Speaker 4: they're doing all this stuff. And I had that initial
Speaker 4: thought like you'll never ever get a phone ever. Okay,
Speaker 4: well how did you suddenly get a phone?
Speaker 1: And how you know?
Speaker 3: It's like this weird thing.
Speaker 4: And then also like you'll never ever look at YouTube
Speaker 4: and there's just like no way to avoid it, is
Speaker 4: what I've learned. So then the question is, well, how
Speaker 4: do we sort of manage it and put guardrails in place?
Speaker 4: And I will say some people that I look at
Speaker 4: and I'm like, wow, you post all the time, and
Speaker 4: I'm gonna judge that.
Speaker 3: But then you know, I have to say, like, there have.
Speaker 4: Been a couple of times I keep wing a soccer
Speaker 4: and came, I want to show this thing, something really cool,
Speaker 4: and I know some of my friends who I never
Speaker 4: see will want to see this thing. And there is
Speaker 4: the cool good factor of sharing photos, and these apps
Speaker 4: have made that possible, you know, in this way. So
Speaker 4: I think there's just this moral question that is needed
Speaker 4: to be discussed by smart people, like.
Speaker 1: You know, my daughter in the morning, she'll say, can
Speaker 1: I watch TV? And I'll say no, and she'll say
Speaker 1: can I watch you on TV? But I'll say, you
Speaker 1: know what that sounds doesn't sound like a terrible idea.
Speaker 1: She knows that that will work. Let's talk about the staffers,
Speaker 1: and let's talk about that. This is the family that
Speaker 1: the Docuseriies really focuses on. Tell us a little bit
Speaker 1: about them and what went down well.
Speaker 4: In a lot of ways, the staffers were almost like
Speaker 4: an average family vlogger account.
Speaker 3: They did everything right in the.
Speaker 4: World of what you do and what YouTube actually incentivizes
Speaker 4: you to do, and they had all the things.
Speaker 3: You know, you have a charismatic, good.
Speaker 11: Looking couple, you have kids, and.
Speaker 4: It all works and you know the sort of set
Speaker 4: of things that you do for your channel that work
Speaker 4: really well in that environment. So the Stoffers were just
Speaker 4: chugging along and as you learn from our series, having
Speaker 4: kids as good content. So every time they had a kid,
Speaker 4: it would do well for them.
Speaker 1: And that's to do well. They can actually see the
Speaker 1: analytics and see that with these kids and new kids,
Speaker 1: our viewership goes up, our subscribers goes up, our money
Speaker 1: goes up. Yeah, what does that lead to?
Speaker 4: So then in twenty seventeen, after they've been running this
Speaker 4: for a while, they decide to adopt a kid from China.
Speaker 4: And there's a myriad of reasons why they decide a
Speaker 4: kid from China makes sense for their channel and for
Speaker 4: their family and their life, and it all is very public, yes,
Speaker 4: extremely public, and the fans are immediately like, whoa, let's
Speaker 4: do this, as though it's like a group decision. And
Speaker 4: that's the kind of thing that I think our series
Speaker 4: really gets into. It's like, Okay, these really personal things
Speaker 4: like suddenly exposed, take on a life of their own
Speaker 4: and morph and I should these things be even allowed
Speaker 4: to have.
Speaker 3: This large audience.
Speaker 4: You know, you're making a massive decision for your life
Speaker 4: and for another person's life, and suddenly tons of people
Speaker 4: are weighing in on that.
Speaker 1: I would never see a family at the park and
Speaker 1: think I can weigh in on their family decisions. But
Speaker 1: because they've overshared so much for so long years, I've
Speaker 1: developed a relationship with them, and now I have the
Speaker 1: right to say, hey, you doing that incorrectly or exactly,
Speaker 1: And man, is it wild what goes down?
Speaker 11: It is?
Speaker 4: Yeah, So what ends up happening is, after having him
Speaker 4: integrated in the family for a few years, make a
Speaker 4: decision to dissolve the adoption. And I know, I know,
Speaker 4: Oh god, hearing you guys make that sound.
Speaker 3: It's it's so real. Wow, you live in documentaries, you're
Speaker 3: just editing. You don't have real people responding.
Speaker 1: But and I heard that sound, and I thought, we're
Speaker 1: gonna get so many more views on YouTube. That's why
Speaker 1: I'm sitting right here. That's how I think. Wow. No,
Speaker 1: but that's how people that's how we watch this docuseries
Speaker 1: like this, Why do they do that? And then of
Speaker 1: course my I pause it to get a glass of
Speaker 1: lot of my wife's like reading the whole story in Wikipedia,
Speaker 1: ruining it. But yeah, and so that's when this thing
Speaker 1: kind of turns, and then the commenters take over, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and so.
Speaker 3: In a way, these two things intersect.
Speaker 4: You know, the most horrific decision happening in the family's
Speaker 4: life and the life of you know, this child. Everything
Speaker 4: is just suddenly that's their decision. They dissolve the adoption.
Speaker 4: But then at the same time, the internet crushes them.
Speaker 4: And I mean, yeah, unbelievable. When some of the things
Speaker 4: that drew me into the story where the actual video
Speaker 4: is in response because they were terrifying, I was like,
Speaker 4: oh my god, the level of anger, which which is
Speaker 4: also an understandable level of anger, But when so many
Speaker 4: people are sending death threats and going crazy on.
Speaker 1: You, how dare you do that to those children? I'm
Speaker 1: gonna slit your children's throat. What's sick? You know? I
Speaker 1: just would say to all YouTube commenters, you'll have a
Speaker 1: lot more success with your comment if you don't threaten
Speaker 1: life or killing. You can make good points without threatening life.
Speaker 1: But that's not where we're at, is it. No, So
Speaker 1: let's talk about You know, in film and TV there
Speaker 1: are child's protection and laws in place Cougan's Law, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that does not exist in YouTube org vlogging world.
Speaker 4: There have been some changes in the last few years,
Speaker 4: like a couple of states Illinois and I think it's
Speaker 4: Ohio and then also California have made inroads into changing
Speaker 4: certain things. In fact, I think one of the laws
Speaker 4: was actually very much limiting certain amounts of time on
Speaker 4: the con when your child is because a kid could
Speaker 4: technically work a full eight hour day.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're I.
Speaker 1: Mean, that's what's so disheartening to me. It's like the
Speaker 1: parents are at the playground with their kids and the
Speaker 1: mom or the dad is going, Okay, thanks for watching. Everybody.
Speaker 1: It's like, hey, put it down, good, you know, go
Speaker 1: play with the kid. But that is work. They can
Speaker 1: potentially make money off of that, right. I wish I
Speaker 1: made money when I took my kid to the playground,
Speaker 1: I mean playing princess and king and all that shit.
Speaker 1: And I'm just I look at after I do it.
Speaker 1: I look at it and I say, I actually lost
Speaker 1: some money doing this. Can you family vlog in a
Speaker 1: ethical way that's non exploitative to your children. I know,
Speaker 1: you're a director of a docu c you're a director
Speaker 1: of a docum series. You're not the ethical leader of
Speaker 1: the entertainment industry, but you like to tackle in entertainment.
Speaker 4: I'm glad you're asking that question, because the thing that
Speaker 4: sucks so bad is that when I met these people,
Speaker 4: I actually liked them. I was like, you're a good person,
Speaker 4: and I think you're actually doing good by your kids,
Speaker 4: and they were cool, like like reasonable, And then what
Speaker 4: I started to realize was that, wow, you got in
Speaker 4: over your head and this thing's snowballed and the industry snowballed,
Speaker 4: and like, holy crap, like we're catching up to it,
Speaker 4: which is also why one of the one of the
Speaker 4: greatest comments I thought was by one of the YouTubers himself,
Speaker 4: Harold Earls.
Speaker 3: He said, you know, YouTube likes to try to pull
Speaker 3: your content to the edges, and we have to fight
Speaker 3: against it.
Speaker 4: So I could see they're, you know, if you're in
Speaker 4: over your head or the thing is doing this, you're trying,
Speaker 4: And I was thinking, wow, okay, so you're really trying.
Speaker 1: And be wholesome and earnest, suppose, or to at least
Speaker 1: show them.
Speaker 4: Well, and that's and that's the other side of it,
Speaker 4: is that this this world of facade that can feel
Speaker 4: absolutely ridiculou and you know.
Speaker 3: So I think this.
Speaker 4: We have regular people that have gotten sucked into, as
Speaker 4: you said, a complete and total world of entertainment, but
Speaker 4: they don't have, you know, the guy right there who
Speaker 4: is like a story producer. You know what's not that
Speaker 4: it's not gonna work, or the executive being like we
Speaker 4: cannot do this.
Speaker 3: They're just your fans are wanting this, give.
Speaker 11: It to them, and it's can it be done ethically?
Speaker 4: I mean, I I wish I actually had an answer
Speaker 4: to that, But I think this is where the really
Speaker 4: big question exists for the social media.
Speaker 3: Companies, like what do you guys think you know? Can
Speaker 3: you do? Can we figure this out?
Speaker 1: And your job isn't to answer, Your job is to
Speaker 1: help us ask the question. And it's a tremendous docuseries.
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