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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome back for another episode of the cycle.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host, Mike mayer Worm is still on vacation,

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Speaker 1: and today I'm joined by one of my favorite people,

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Speaker 1: Brendan Tuma of Underdog Fantasy. Tuma, thanks for joining us

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Speaker 1: for the second time this season, and how.

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Speaker 2: Are you and more importantly, how are you doing in

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Speaker 2: your leagues this season so far?

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Speaker 3: Well, it's funny to ask about the leagues this season

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Speaker 3: because you and I overlap with I think I want

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Speaker 3: to say three leagues, at least two Dynasty and then

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Speaker 3: you know the Awesome League which is run by our

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Speaker 3: former colleague Dan Harris. And but yeah, overall, just you know, busy.

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Speaker 3: It's a I've always said, you know, baseball, there's so

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Speaker 3: much attention on you know, what all the players are

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Speaker 3: doing in April, and then that trickles into May. And

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Speaker 3: you know, I have this saying that I try to

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Speaker 3: remind myself every year that you know, the championships are

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Speaker 3: one in the dog days of summer and that this

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Speaker 3: is you know, the time of year where there's not

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Speaker 3: going to be as many flashy you know, player performances

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Speaker 3: or analysis of it. But but again, you know, kind

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Speaker 3: of the roots of a championship season are built during

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Speaker 3: you know, the quieter times.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, And it's funny you mentioned the Awesome League because

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Speaker 1: that's a league. I don't know he's mentioned it by name,

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Speaker 1: but that's a league we use as a reference point

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Speaker 1: a lot in the show. I definitely bring it up

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Speaker 1: a lot, especially for the Dan factor of just you know,

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Speaker 1: bringing up bringing Dan back into the show and make

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Speaker 1: sure I know he listens, so I like to mention

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Speaker 1: him as often as possible as I know he enjoys it.

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Speaker 1: And in that league, like you were saying, leagues are one,

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Speaker 1: you know, in the dog days of summer, I was

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Speaker 1: in first place for all of April and now I'm

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Speaker 1: in like fifth or sixth place as I traded Corbyn

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Speaker 1: Carroll to try and get some power from Matt Olsen.

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Speaker 1: But I haven't really done enough for my power, which

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Speaker 1: I've been talking about. People are probably tired of me

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Speaker 1: talking about about it, but you know, it's a struggle.

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Speaker 1: I'm still kind of hanging on and I'm actually I

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Speaker 1: fell pretty far in the rankings and I'm fighting my

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Speaker 1: way back up.

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Speaker 2: But I was in the lead for all of April.

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Speaker 1: I think Dan has been in the lead for about

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Speaker 1: six weeks, and then just today we were texting because

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Speaker 1: I opened up the standings and there I saw Tuma

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Speaker 1: had overtaken Dan in first place. So as long as

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Speaker 1: as Dan doesn't win that league, I feel like there

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Speaker 1: are eleven winners, and so we'll kind of see how

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Speaker 1: that goes.

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Speaker 2: So we'll jump right into it.

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Speaker 1: The first kind of topic I was just talking to

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Speaker 1: you about before the show is I saw this article

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Speaker 1: on MLB dot com about potential trade chip potential trade

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Speaker 1: chips in Major League Baseball. Not necessarily fantasy trade trade chips.

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Speaker 1: That's actually difficult to say trade chips, but people who

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Speaker 1: could be interesting, as you know too. I'm gonna stop

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Speaker 1: saying that that uh, that phrase because it's hard to

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Speaker 1: keep saying it over and over again. But they could potentially,

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Speaker 1: you know, be interesting trade targets or people you want

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Speaker 1: to trade away in fantasy. Some of them the value

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Speaker 1: might not change, but I think sometimes around this time

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Speaker 1: month or two or maybe six weeks ahead of the

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Speaker 1: MLB trade deadline, that's when you can kind of look

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Speaker 1: to buy some of the some of these players because

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Speaker 1: maybe they're on a bad team, but they're about go

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Speaker 1: to a good team, and their value could increase and

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Speaker 2: That value jumps.

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Speaker 1: Or it could be you know, something we were talking

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Speaker 1: about before the show is maybe it's you have a

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Speaker 1: you know, you have a closer who in three weeks

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Speaker 1: him for good value before he's not a closer anymore. So,

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Speaker 1: a few names I wanted to We don't have to

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Speaker 1: talk about all these names, but a few names I

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Speaker 1: wanted to kind of run through that we're mentioned.

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Speaker 2: In the article.

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Speaker 1: Pete Alonso, Tyler Anderson, Miguel andrewhar Josh Bell, Garrett Crochet,

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Speaker 1: Who's someone we've talked about on a Bunch of the

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Speaker 2: I think it's very interesting that he's even being considered

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Speaker 1: Paul de Young, a trio of closers, Carlos Estevez, Kyle

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Speaker 1: of those names kind of jump off, jump off the

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the biggest lesson is, you know, especially

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Speaker 3: as we get you know, through the summer, teams are

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Speaker 3: going to call it more prospects and then it's all

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Speaker 3: going to culminate in the trade deadline and that'll affect

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Speaker 3: I think the biggest lesson is just recognizing how much

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Speaker 3: things are going to change. Like you said, you might

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Speaker 3: be feeling great, Oh my goodness. You know, I have

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Speaker 3: you know, Tanner Scott and he's killing it for me

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Speaker 3: as a closer right now, but if he gets traded

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Speaker 3: the closer anymore. So you know, cushet is you know,

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Speaker 3: going to be talked about all summer until we get

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Speaker 3: clarity on you know, the innings limit stuff. And you know,

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Speaker 3: his trade value is really interesting because if a team

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Speaker 3: trades for him, you know, at the deadline, they probably

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Speaker 3: want to use him the rest of the year. And

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Speaker 3: you know, obviously the innings concern is a question, but

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Speaker 3: they're not acquiring him just for this year. They're acquiring

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Speaker 3: the next two and a half years of him until

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Speaker 3: he reaches free agency. And so there's all sorts of

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Speaker 3: You know, they want to keep him healthy for that

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Speaker 3: to use him down the stretch, and so I think

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Speaker 3: we'll learn a lot more about his situation if and

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Speaker 3: when a trade does go down. I think if you

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Speaker 3: do roster him, you are rooting for a trade, not

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Speaker 3: just for the increased wins potential, but again just to

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Speaker 3: you know, I'll just ignore the you know, polar bear

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Speaker 3: you know, he's probably gonna hit wherever he goes sort

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Speaker 3: The rest of the group, I kind of think caw

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Speaker 3: Quantrill is the most interesting, which I never thought I

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Speaker 3: would have said that, But I just I ignore Rockies pictures.

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Speaker 2: It's just.

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Speaker 3: It just every now and then I'm like, ooh, should

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Speaker 3: you know a lot of people have called this year

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Speaker 3: type of pitcher who you know, a lot of your

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting you picked those two names because those

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Speaker 1: were two names I specifically wanted to ask you about

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Speaker 1: those two and one more that I'll get to in

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Speaker 2: Gara Crochet exactly.

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Speaker 1: I kind of mentioned him recently, you know, when the

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Speaker 2: My worry with with Crochet is.

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Speaker 1: Because of the innings thing you were talking about is like,

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Speaker 1: what if a team like the Padres acquires him and

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Speaker 1: Maybe he works behind an opener and just goes three

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Speaker 1: I think you're rooting for a trade, like you said,

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Speaker 1: kind of just you know, more categories across the board.

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Speaker 1: Cal Quantrill is a really interesting one. Like you said,

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Speaker 1: you normally avoid Rocky's pitchers. He's someone who hasn't striking

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Speaker 2: So don't know that. I mean, granted, you want him

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Speaker 1: Better situation that you know, if you can't sell him,

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Speaker 1: a trade would be the best case scenario because Rockies

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Speaker 2: So Deffe's situation you want to avoid.

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Speaker 1: The other name I wanted to bring up is Paul

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Speaker 1: de Young because he's kind of a name that's always

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Speaker 1: you know, he's been around for a while, he's been hurt,

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Speaker 1: he's kind of bounced around. But he's interesting because he's

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Speaker 1: on a bad team. He's hitting for power, and as

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Speaker 1: on this show, power is just kind of down across

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Speaker 1: I'm looking for power. And he's someone who has thirties,

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Speaker 1: somewhat quietly has thirteen home runs. He's batting two thirty six,

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Speaker 1: But other than that, I wish you well. I hope

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Speaker 1: I want to go back to prospects, and specifically a

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Speaker 3: So I think these are the types of guys I'm

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Speaker 3: certain dynastague you know, picked up earlier this spring, and

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Speaker 3: knowing that you know, eventually at some point the season

437
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Speaker 3: the Orioles rotation depth would be testing, and he would

438
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Speaker 3: get a shot he was doing well in April and

439
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Speaker 3: may all that sort of stuff. But I do think

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Speaker 3: I say that only to preface with just this idea

441
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Speaker 3: that these are not, you know, the the elite pitching prospects.

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Speaker 3: And we know that because the teams told us that

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Speaker 3: through their actions. If this was you know, if this

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Speaker 3: was Joe Jones, if this was Christian Scott, they would

445
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Speaker 3: have been up in April because the Orioles they've gone

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Speaker 3: through you know, Cole Overn and Albert Suarez and among

447
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Speaker 3: some others, and the Braves you know, went to Schwellenbach

448
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Speaker 3: and Smith Shover and you know their their depth has

449
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Speaker 3: been tested too. That the White Sox you understood that

450
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Speaker 3: they were gonna, you know, slow play this a little

451
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Speaker 3: as a as a rebuilding team. But I think that's

452
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Speaker 3: the first and foremost, like the number one thing to

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Speaker 3: understand is these are exciting rookie. Rookies are always exciting

454
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Speaker 3: to talk about, but we just these guys are not,

455
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Speaker 3: you know, breaking our stuff plus models, and you know

456
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Speaker 3: there's a reason they're not considered the top end pitching prospects.

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Speaker 3: That being said, it's really important right now to start

458
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Speaker 3: getting familiar with them because at some point, either this

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Speaker 3: season or or even next season, you know, they could

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Speaker 3: be guys who were talking about, not even necessarily as

461
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Speaker 3: season long breakouts, but as you know, multi week streamers,

462
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Speaker 3: or guys who are hot and have you know, a

463
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Speaker 3: good schedule coming up. And so of the three, you know,

464
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Speaker 3: and I know you mentioned your favorite, and I just

465
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Speaker 3: wanted to touch on Povich first because he were recording

466
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Speaker 3: this on Thursday, and he had a really nice start

467
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Speaker 3: against the Braves on Wednesday night. Now, the Braves have

468
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Speaker 3: been struggling mightily of late, but what you saw was,

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Speaker 3: you know, kind of the best of all worlds, where

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Speaker 3: Povich is in a situation where he's in a great

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Speaker 3: spot to get wins. The home ballpark is great, his

472
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Speaker 3: fastball is not great, but he doesn't has enough other pitches,

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Speaker 3: and he's kind of you know, throws a little bit

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Speaker 3: of junk and mixes it up and it comes from,

475
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Speaker 3: you know, the left side, so hitters aren't always used

476
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Speaker 3: to it as much, and so he kind of strikes

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Speaker 3: me as someone who you know, it might be a

478
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Speaker 3: year or two from now, but the sum of the

479
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Speaker 3: parts adds up and he you know, produces expectations and

480
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Speaker 3: in the meantime he's someone again I would just you know,

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Speaker 3: don't view him view any of these three as a

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Speaker 3: priority in redraft, but I want to be adding them

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Speaker 3: to my pool of streaming candidates.

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Speaker 1: Okay, And so if you had to rank them, would

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Speaker 1: you kind of agree that it's probably Povich decently sized

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Speaker 1: gap and then kind of like you know, Waldrop Berthorpe,

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Speaker 1: kind of pick your poison. Maybe Waldrop by default because

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Speaker 1: he's on the braves whereas Thorpe is on a team

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Speaker 1: that isn't going to contend.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the only case I can make for Thorpe.

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Speaker 3: And well, we'll soon learn what's going to happen with

492
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Speaker 3: Povich because you know he's now done. Well, maybe he

493
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Speaker 3: bought himself a little more time, but Dean Kramer is

494
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Speaker 3: eventually coming back where Thorpe. The runway is just going

495
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Speaker 3: to be clear, because you know, if they do trade Crochet,

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Speaker 3: if they do trade Eric Fetti, this is someone is

497
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Speaker 3: just going to stay in the rotation. Now, the downside

498
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Speaker 3: of that is he's in an awful spot to get wins,

499
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Speaker 3: especially if they do trade all their good players, and

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Speaker 3: so if I knew Povich had a spot the rest

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Speaker 3: of the year, I would probably be most interested in him,

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Speaker 3: But since I don't, if I had to choose one

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Speaker 3: now for the rest of the season, it would be Thorpe.

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Speaker 1: That's interesting, I would have I would have guessed Povich.

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Speaker 1: I also was just kind of like looking through the innings.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of something I like obsessed over. And it

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Speaker 1: looks like Povich and Thorpe both through a decent amount

508
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Speaker 1: of innings last season, which means, you know, they should

509
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Speaker 1: have a decent rope this year, whereas Walldrip not a

510
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Speaker 1: ton of innings last season and he's already thrown over

511
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Speaker 1: fifty this season, And so that could that could come

512
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Speaker 1: into consideration two with what the you know, in addition

513
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Speaker 1: to performance right now, as we have this conversation after

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Speaker 1: one appearance as the ras and the teens and the

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Speaker 1: high teens seventeen point one eight, Granted it's like one start,

516
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Speaker 1: so it's not you know, you can't really hold them

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Speaker 1: to that, and I think he was off to a

518
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Speaker 1: pretty good start before the wheels kind of came off,

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Speaker 1: So but still something to consider there, and would comparing

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Speaker 1: them to someone like Christian Scott, who is not currently

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Speaker 1: with the Mets and who knows what the Mets are

522
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Speaker 1: going to do. Do you prefer someone like Christian Scott

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Speaker 1: to all three of these guys or would rather like

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Speaker 1: hold on to a Drewthorpe.

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Speaker 3: Uh? Yeah, I'll still take Scott ahead of him. And

526
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Speaker 3: it's been frustrating the way the Mets have handled it,

527
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Speaker 3: and it's not something that I've seen discussed all that much.

528
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Speaker 3: I don't know if fantasy community is just numb to

529
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Speaker 3: it or there's just you know, people are just understanding

530
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Speaker 3: of what the Mets are doing. But if you are

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Speaker 3: someone who either bid a lot for Christian Scott or

532
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Speaker 3: stashed him for a while before he came up, it's

533
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Speaker 3: the runout. The past couple of weeks has been frustrating

534
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Speaker 3: of him being at Triple A, and I do think

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Speaker 3: it's a reminder of what could happen, you know, whether

536
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Speaker 3: it's not going to Triple A necessarily, but just this

537
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Speaker 3: the whole innings limit thing is whether it's Louise Heel

538
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Speaker 3: or Crochet or if it's eventually gonna happen with like

539
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Speaker 3: Schemes or Jerry Jones, it's you know, last year we

540
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Speaker 3: had it, you know, with Yury Perez among some others,

541
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Speaker 3: and so it's very frustrating. I guess one positive is

542
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Speaker 3: maybe Scott's getting it out of the way now, so

543
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Speaker 3: you know he I do view him as a firm

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Speaker 3: tier above these other three pitchers, though.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's kind of where I was on it too,

546
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Speaker 1: and I figured you would be, but you know, it

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Speaker 1: was interested to have that conversation. Now, let's jump over

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Speaker 1: to our buy low, sell high segment. We do this

549
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Speaker 1: every week or at least most weeks on the show,

550
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Speaker 1: and we also do it pretty much every week at

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Speaker 1: fantasypros dot com, where we have our featured pro segment,

552
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Speaker 1: which is always buy low, sell high, and each week

553
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Speaker 1: we ask different experts, you know, further by low and

554
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Speaker 1: sell high trade candidate's just to kind of see the

555
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Speaker 1: way things are trending in fantasy baseball leagues and see,

556
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Speaker 1: you know, where you can buy low on some value

557
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Speaker 1: and then where you can sell high on some assets.

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Speaker 1: And so I'll toss it to you first. Why don't

559
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Speaker 1: you tell me who your favorite by low target.

560
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Speaker 2: Is right now?

561
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Speaker 3: Yeah, So I chose Jackson Marrow for this, and admittedly

562
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Speaker 3: it's a little bit of meats time, because he hit

563
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Speaker 3: two homers on Wednesday, including a walk off against Mason Miller,

564
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Speaker 3: which is no small feet but but that just served

565
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Speaker 3: to me as a catalyst to dig into him a

566
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Speaker 3: little bit more. And what I found was he's making

567
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Speaker 3: a lot better swing decisions since the end of April.

568
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Speaker 3: And this is something that I have not seen any

569
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Speaker 3: studies on or put any quantitative data to. But as

570
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Speaker 3: someone who just you know, is watching baseball every night

571
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Speaker 3: and obsessing over fantasy stats, is just a gut feel

572
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Speaker 3: that you know, the hitters are, you know one struggling

573
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Speaker 3: when rookie hitters are struggling when they first reached the

574
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Speaker 3: big leagues. But what we really want to be looking

575
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Speaker 3: for is hyper analyzing. Are they making adjustments? And this

576
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Speaker 3: is something that you know, Gunner henderstand. You know, it

577
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Speaker 3: didn't take a lot to say entering twenty twenty three

578
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Speaker 3: that Gunner Henderson was going to be a good rookie,

579
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Speaker 3: but he struggled so much and there was so much worry,

580
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Speaker 3: and then if you did look under the hood, you

581
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Speaker 3: saw things slowly improve. And when I look at Jackson Merrill,

582
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Speaker 3: if you look at it as something I like doing,

583
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Speaker 3: which is just you know, basic swing decisions. It's you

584
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Speaker 3: take the zone swing and you subtract the O swing

585
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Speaker 3: the outside the zone swing percentage. And uh, you know

586
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Speaker 3: he's improved a lot in that from April to May.

587
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Speaker 3: He's overall held his zone. He didn't get you know,

588
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 3: wildly exposed the way Jackson Holliday did. And so he

589
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 3: is someone who, you know, whoever rosters him, you know,

590
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 3: might just be a little bit out of patience. But

591
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Speaker 3: sometimes with these rookies, you kind of gotta go for

592
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Speaker 3: it before you see it. If if Merrill has a

593
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Speaker 3: big next three weeks, you know you're not gonna be

594
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Speaker 3: able to trade for him. So there's there's a sometimes

595
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 3: we get too carried away with uh going with obvious bilos,

596
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 3: and maybe Merylo is a little too obvious. But uh,

597
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 3: he is someone who if you want, if if you

598
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Speaker 3: want exposure to you know, rookies who could have a

599
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Speaker 3: big second half. I think he's as poised as as

600
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Speaker 3: any of the others who have struggled up until this

601
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Speaker 3: point to to kind of make that second half leap. Uh,

602
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Speaker 3: not necessary to the degree that Gunner Henderson did last year,

603
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Speaker 3: but in a similar you know, started slow but finished

604
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Speaker 3: strong sort of path.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I like to pick I've I've had my eye

606
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Speaker 1: on him and someone he's been hitting right in front

607
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Speaker 1: of in the lineup, House Young Kim, and the lineup

608
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 1: is a big reason why I think you can kind

609
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 1: of buy on them right now, because after you know,

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Speaker 1: I have a bunch of Xander Bogart shares, or had

611
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Speaker 1: a bunch of Xander Brogard shares, So that injury stung

612
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 1: because I kind of he's someone I was you know

613
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:17,680
Speaker 1: before the season I was talking about on the show

614
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Speaker 1: is someone I drafted out of value, and then even

615
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Speaker 1: into the season when you got off through this still start,

616
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,200
Speaker 1: I had him as a bilo. So people are probably

617
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,160
Speaker 1: tired of me talking about Sandra Bogart's but it still urts.

618
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,679
Speaker 1: But when that kind of happened, I've been monitoring the

619
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Speaker 1: Padres lineup because I want to see Jackson, Merrill and

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Speaker 1: Hang Kim.

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Speaker 2: Move up the lineup.

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Speaker 1: The problem is that Jerks and PROFI won't stop hitting,

623
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Speaker 1: and I know that he's going to. I just needed

624
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 1: to happen already so we can kind of re imagine

625
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Speaker 1: this lineup because right now, to lose rise at the

626
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Speaker 1: top that he's in the two hole, Profar Corona Worth

627
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 1: of Machado, and then they have David Peralta in there

628
00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 1: as well, which you know, I'm not overly concerned about

629
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:55,320
Speaker 1: those two leaping David Palta, but I do need them

630
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 1: to move up the lineup a little bit to increase

631
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Speaker 1: their value, and I'd love to see both of them

632
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Speaker 1: move into the top. Like maybe we can get has

633
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 1: Young Kim into that two hole, drop tattoos down to three,

634
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 1: and get Jackson Merrill baby up to the five hole.

635
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 1: Then then we're you know, we're really talking about some

636
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 1: value moving some of that stuff around. But right now,

637
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 1: Jackson Merril has been batting seventh, house Sen Kim's been

638
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: batting eighth, but early in the season Merril was batting ninth,

639
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 1: so he's already kind of creeped up a little bit.

640
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,439
Speaker 1: I just need that to continue to happen, so I

641
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 1: like to pick. And he's also in a lot of

642
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: leagues I think eligible both outfield and short stuff, which

643
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 1: you know, which can be useful especially as you get

644
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Speaker 1: into somewhe and have to.

645
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:32,640
Speaker 2: Make some moves for injuries.

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Speaker 1: My bi low is Pablo Lopez, and I wrote him

647
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Speaker 1: up in this week's article, which you can see pinned

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Speaker 1: to the Fantasy Spros Baseball page right now under the

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Speaker 1: title nine Fantasy Baseball players to trade now. And my

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Speaker 1: bilow is Pablo Lopez, and he's kind of like the

651
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 1: definition of a by low right now. Like he's someone

652
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: we all kind of believe in. We see massive strike

653
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,480
Speaker 1: up potential, and he's just hit a really rough pat,

654
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: you know, just a really really rough where he's just

655
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: kind of gotten litten up for a number of starts

656
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 1: in a row now or three. At his last four

657
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: starts he kind of got lit up. The era has

658
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: jumped up over five. But like pretty much everything else

659
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: looks fine, the expect the numbers look fine, and it's

660
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: really just like that that rough patch he's hit kind

661
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,479
Speaker 1: of inflating everything. And I just you know, even in

662
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 1: a landscape where pitching is kind of plentiful, there's a

663
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 1: lot of like average to a slightly above average pitching,

664
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 1: like you know what I like to call cromulent pitching,

665
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 1: which worm had never seen The Simpsons before and didn't

666
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 1: know that reference. I don't know if you are familiar

667
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 1: with the reference, but I like to use it almost

668
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 1: every show now that he was baffled by my use

669
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 1: of that word. But where it's it's where you can

670
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: find someone with Pablo Lopez his ceiling who.

671
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 2: Might be available.

672
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 1: And I think he is available right now because pitching

673
00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 1: is plentiful and because his numbers have gotten so bad.

674
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 2: So what do you what do you think.

675
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 1: Of Pablo Lopez just in terms of rest of season

676
00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: value and in terms of you know, do you think

677
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: he's by low right now?

678
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 2: And I kind of floated in the article, like I

679
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 2: usually you know, talked.

680
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 1: Of trading like hitters for pictures of pictures for hitters

681
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 1: as opposed to like a one to one picture of

682
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 1: picture comparison. I said, like, maybe if we're talking like

683
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 1: Manny Machado or O'Neil Cruz, I think I would move,

684
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: you know, one of those players for paboll of this.

685
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree to you about your point about that

686
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 3: there's a lot of you know, the term the glob

687
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 3: has been thrown around a lot for starting pitching rankings

688
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 3: the past year or so, and uh, you know, the

689
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 3: glob is still very big, and Pablo's got that ability

690
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 3: to you know, ascend the glob and go above and

691
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,719
Speaker 3: beyond it and that's why that's the ceiling that you

692
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 3: were referring to. And it was really funny. Probably about

693
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 3: a month ago I wrote Pablo up as a by low,

694
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 3: and then two weeks ago I went on bench with

695
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 3: Bubba with Casey Bubba, and we were talking about it,

696
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 3: and I was telling him. I was like, this isn't

697
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 3: how that's supposed to go. You're supposed to write the

698
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 3: bilo and the next start they come out and they're amazing.

699
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 3: And again for me, this was a month ago for Pablo.

700
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 3: But when I look at is you know, player page,

701
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 3: I'm seeing all the same things that I still saw

702
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 3: a month ago. It's at the time when I had

703
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 3: wrote up. You know, he had actually improved his strikeout

704
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,880
Speaker 3: minus walk rate from last season and he had a

705
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 3: better Sierra than he did last season. And so I

706
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 3: think for a lot of people, myself included, you know,

707
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 3: this past week start home against the Rockies was one

708
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 3: where we really wanted to see some dominance and we

709
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 3: still didn't. And for that reason, I do think he

710
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 3: could be especially available. And yeah, I mean all the

711
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 3: stuff that I look at, he's still grades out fine.

712
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 3: So it's one of those that if if he's just

713
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 3: you know, awful for the entire season. I'll be going

714
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 3: down with the ship along with you, but I think

715
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 3: there's enough things to be optimistic about with him.

716
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 2: Absolutely, tell me about your cell high for this week.

717
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 3: I cell high. So this one paints me because I

718
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 3: am such a fan of Jared Jones that I got

719
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 3: one of his autograph rookie cards the season, just because

720
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 3: I ended up with him in so many different leagues.

721
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 3: And April was just so fun just watching him, you know,

722
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 3: really look like the next Spencer Strider in the sense

723
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 3: of he's he was saying, my fastball is coming down

724
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 3: the middle of the strike zone and you still can't

725
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 3: hit it, and he would get you know, touched for

726
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 3: at home where every now and then. But the strikeout

727
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 3: upside was so good, and still the ratios were overall

728
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 3: so good. He you know, wasn't walking anyone, so the

729
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 3: whip was low even if you know, you were getting

730
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 3: a three or four ERA with some of those starts

731
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 3: because of the homers. And I'm always going to be

732
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 3: you know, one of my lessons from the past few years,

733
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 3: whether it's Strider, Luis Hell or Tarik Skooble or Cole

734
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 3: Reagan's these guys who kind of seemingly come out of nowhere,

735
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 3: but the stuff when you watch them pitch is just

736
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,479
Speaker 3: so dominant looking and on all the metrics back it up,

737
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 3: like I'm just always going to ride those waves over

738
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 3: and over end. One thing that I've noticed again because

739
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 3: I'm paying so close attention to Joe Jones, because I'm

740
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 3: such a fan of his, you know, his game and

741
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 3: have him in so many leagues, is in a in

742
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 3: May he hasn't been quite the same. And I think

743
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 3: it's intentional because, uh, you know the I don't think

744
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,040
Speaker 3: that when I say the stuff is worse, I don't

745
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 3: mean that in a way of, oh, this elbow is

746
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 3: about to snap and he's going to be done for.

747
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 3: I mean it in a way where I think he

748
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 3: came out in April and showed his ceiling, and I

749
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 3: think for any start for the rest of his year,

750
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 3: you know, the next bunch of years, he's going to

751
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 3: have as you know, high of a single startup side

752
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 3: as anyone. I think him and the Pirates are trying

753
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 3: to be a little bit intentional about not pushing himself,

754
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 3: uh you know, too strong, too far again, especially this

755
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 3: early in the season.

756
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 2: He's a rookie.

757
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 3: He wants to you know, get out of the season

758
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 3: with the full workload and entered you know, the off

759
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 3: season healthy so we can dominate again in year two.

760
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,960
Speaker 3: And and that's all okay. And I still think he's

761
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 3: a good pitcher, but he's just no, he's not going

762
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 3: to be strider if he's doing that for the rest

763
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 3: of the season. And the last part about this is

764
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 3: I combine that with his upcoming schedule, which includes a

765
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 3: trip to cors this weekend. There's a trip to Great

766
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 3: American Ballpark in a couple of weeks, and to me,

767
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 3: it's just all a time where you could if you

768
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 3: have Jared Jones, it means you drafted him late, you

769
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 3: picked him up off waivers. This could be the perfect

770
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 3: chance to say, hey, I've profited enough here. There's enough

771
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 3: red flags where I don't again think he's going to

772
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 3: break and be awful. But it could be a chance,

773
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 3: you know, to increase your overall team upside and just

774
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,439
Speaker 3: get all the profit from Jared Jones for the first

775
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 3: two months and then you know, turn it into a

776
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:36,879
Speaker 3: really productive hitter.

777
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 2: Yeah.

778
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 1: So, In our weekly Featured Pros article, our own Wonky Penguin.

779
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 1: Kelly Kirby also wrote up Jared Jones as her cell

780
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 1: high for the week for some similar reasons that you

781
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:49,719
Speaker 1: that you were mentioning and the player that she suggested,

782
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: maybe you know, trading Jared Jones away for would be

783
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: someone like a Vladimir Guerrero junior.

784
00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 2: Would you make that trade right now today?

785
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 3: By time someone brings up Vladim, that's going to open

786
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 3: up a whole other conversation. But I would be doing

787
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 3: that trade, and who knows, maybe you'll see, Uh, you know,

788
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 3: I do have Jared Jones an awesome league, and if

789
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 3: you want to get a sense of what a deal

790
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 3: for him could look like, perhaps we'll see one in

791
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:14,399
Speaker 3: the next week or two.

792
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: Oh are you are you already talking? We'll say, oh boy,

793
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 1: I've been trying to acquire continue to acquire hitting in

794
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,720
Speaker 1: that league, but slow going so far, especially as my

795
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 1: my pitching continues to get hurt and frustrate me. So

796
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 1: my cell high for this week is Carlos Rodon and

797
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,560
Speaker 1: it's kind of the inverse conversation of Pablo Lopez. We've

798
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:40,320
Speaker 1: seen what Carlos Rodin could be. We've also seen what

799
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: he could be in twenty twenty three, which was really bad.

800
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 1: And there's also even without baking in, you know, kind

801
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,759
Speaker 1: of the injury concerns there and the fact that you know,

802
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: he missed a last twenty twenty three and he's already

803
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: thrown more.

804
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,319
Speaker 2: Innings this year and he did last year.

805
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: Now that's less concerning for a veteran, but still concerning

806
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 1: for someone with his injury history. But even if you

807
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 1: remove those factors, his exit velocity, barrel percentage, and hard

808
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,399
Speaker 1: hit percentage are all kind of like twenty seven percent

809
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: dollar or worse, while his like his chase with and

810
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,120
Speaker 1: strike out numbers are all pretty pedestrian. And so when

811
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:12,919
Speaker 1: you look and when you look at for those reasons,

812
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 1: when you look at his era is two point nine

813
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,919
Speaker 1: to three, but his FIP ex FIP Sierra x CRA

814
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 1: they're all right around four or higher. And so I

815
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 1: think even you know, those ur estimators are building in

816
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 1: some regression there. Interestingly, his K percentage is slightly up

817
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 1: while his K per nine is slightly down, So it's

818
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 1: it's not always easy to do that. But when I guess,

819
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: when you know, you're cutting down on some other things

820
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 1: that he did poorly in previous years that can help.

821
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 1: But I'm just I see someone who's giving up a

822
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: decent amount of contact and he's he's kind of leaning

823
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 1: into that like soft contact approach, and I just think

824
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: there's some aggression coming.

825
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 2: I think he'll be fine. I think he'll be good.

826
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 1: He's on a good team, and it helps it on

827
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,840
Speaker 1: Yankee Stadium. He pitches left handed because you know, it

828
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 1: would be a lot harder for a writing in the

829
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: Yankee Stadium to give up that contact because even off

830
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,600
Speaker 1: contact from a righty is gonna go over the fence

831
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,879
Speaker 1: in right field. And I mentioned i'd be I start

832
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 1: my trade talks with Rodan, aiming high for maybe like

833
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 1: a Jared Duran, maybe for the ceiling of Treya Turner,

834
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 1: or like an Alec bohone. And if I couldn't get them,

835
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: maybe I see if I can get a package of

836
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 1: like a Jordan Westburg plus a has young camera Luisa Rayas.

837
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 1: You know something I don't know that I would like

838
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: trade Rodin for like many of those one up, like

839
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: straight up, other than the first three, but in that

840
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: second three, if I can get like two of those players,

841
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 1: like maybe that's a.

842
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 2: Package I'm interested in.

843
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: If I need if I need hitting, What do you

844
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 1: think about any of those names compared to you know,

845
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 1: Rodin's value.

846
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 3: Funny enough, in a different redraft league, I had offered

847
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 3: this week Jared Jones for Jared Duran, So that seems

848
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:49,440
Speaker 3: that's something that that I uh, Radon. Radon for Duran

849
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,280
Speaker 3: seems you know, very fair to me on both sides, actually,

850
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 3: and again I think that just comes down to if

851
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 3: your team needs hitting or pitching. I wrote up the

852
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 3: Yankees starting for Baseball America a couple of weeks ago,

853
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 3: and when I was looking at Radon for that piece,

854
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 3: if you look at his Baseball Savant page, it shows

855
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:14,799
Speaker 3: the locations of you know, each pitcher's pitches like on

856
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 3: a little heat map. And for him, if you look

857
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:20,440
Speaker 3: at the fastball and slider this season compared to when

858
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 3: he was at his best at the end of the

859
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 3: White Sox run and then that year with the Giants,

860
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 3: it's really stark. And again just looking at everything else,

861
00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 3: like you mentioned, the strikeout rate is actually up. His

862
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 3: stuff is as good as ever right now. He just

863
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 3: does not have the command that he did in that

864
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,399
Speaker 3: year with the Giants, and I agree with you that

865
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 3: that could lead to a little bit of regression for sure.

866
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

867
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: Absolutely, So let's jump right into waivers, another kind of

868
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: weekly segment where we can kind of you know, we

869
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: jumped from bilot to so high into waivers. You know,

870
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 1: we generally aim for players who are available at least

871
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,839
Speaker 1: fifty percent of leagues. Sometimes we dig even deeper than that.

872
00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: Kelly Doug real deep last week. I think I don't

873
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 1: know that either for players were available, were available in

874
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 1: less than ninety percent of leagues. But we won't dig

875
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 1: quite as deep this week. I'll skip through my first.

876
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 1: We're going to each pick a hitter and a picture here.

877
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: I'll skip your mind first, because he's someone we were

878
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,800
Speaker 1: talking about. I have Paul Deng as my hitter waiver

879
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,200
Speaker 1: hitter of the week. He's available in more than eighty

880
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,720
Speaker 1: percent of leagues, and I'm interested him for the reasons

881
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: I mentioned at the top of the show. I think

882
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 1: a trade could be coming to a better situation, maybe

883
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 1: a better ballpark, or at least maybe a better lineup.

884
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 1: And he's widely available, and he's been hitting for power,

885
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 1: and you know, I don't want to keep repeating myself,

886
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 1: but given the landscape, anyone with you know, a glimmer

887
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: of power is catching my eye right now. So that's

888
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 1: a quick one. Why don't you tell me your favorite hitter?

889
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: And I think it's a good one.

890
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, So I did Jason Dimingez And it's, you know,

891
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 3: always hard for me not to want to talk about

892
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 3: a prospect or rookie, even on redraft shows. But uh,

893
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 3: Domingas And it's a little bit everything I said before

894
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 3: about MAVERI about with rookie hitters, and you know MLB

895
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,720
Speaker 3: right now is I almost want to fade all rookie

896
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 3: hitters for their first half a season and then jump

897
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:17,479
Speaker 3: in after they've kind of shed some of that learning curve.

898
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 3: I think so many guys this year. You know, Colt

899
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 3: and cows are struggled horribly last year, and I know

900
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 3: he's struggling again, but then he had this run at

901
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 3: the beginning of the season where I think the experience

902
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 3: he had helped fuel that run. Nick Gonzalez came up

903
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 3: last year, struggled, this year, he's showing some improvements. Mason

904
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 3: Winn struggled initially, showing some improvement. So in general, I

905
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 3: think the way to start playing rookie hitters is to

906
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 3: kind of you know, fade that initial run, but then

907
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 3: be ready to jump in. And I say all that

908
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 3: just to say because Domingaz, I just think is a

909
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 3: little different. I think that the next rookie hitter, that

910
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 3: the next top hitting prospect who explodes as a rookie

911
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 3: is just going to be a densely valued in all

912
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 3: full mats because now it's been a little bit since

913
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 3: we've seen one do it. You know, Blankford didn't do

914
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 3: it this year, Chario didn't do it, Holiday didn't do it.

915
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:12,800
Speaker 3: If Jason does whenever he comes up, and again, obviously

916
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 3: the Yankees are way too crowded for him right now.

917
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 3: It almost it feels like a football sense where it's

918
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 3: like you have this elite, you know, rookie handcuff running

919
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 3: back who just needs an opportunity, and if when he

920
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,760
Speaker 3: gets that opportunity, if you know, he hits the ground running,

921
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 3: it's the value is going to be immense. And so

922
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 3: you can say, okay, you can say that about any rookie.

923
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 3: I think Jason he did get a cup of coffee

924
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 3: last September before the elbow injury, and I was just,

925
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 3: you know, it's a gut feel thing a little bit,

926
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:46,240
Speaker 3: but I was really impressed. You know, he homed off Verlander,

927
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 3: you know, extremely early in his career and again it

928
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 3: was like ten games or something. But his savant mettricks

929
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 3: were really strong. And you know, if you hit well normally,

930
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,400
Speaker 3: your savant metchucks are going to look strong. But it

931
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 3: just gave me a little bit of faith that, uh,

932
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 3: you know, this guy has you know, the power that

933
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 3: he can make you know, good contact and it's uh,

934
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,040
Speaker 3: we know he has the knowledge of the strike zone

935
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 3: from the walk rates in the minor leagues. And it's

936
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 3: a great home park and it's gonna be a great lineup.

937
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 3: And this Yankee team does seem like, uh, you know,

938
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 3: things could This is a lineup I want pieces of.

939
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 3: And I don't know what's gonna happen with verdu Go

940
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 3: and Standing and now Soda with the Forum and if

941
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 3: none of those guys get hurt, I mean, who knows.

942
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 3: Jason could not be up to September, but uh he

943
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 3: he is just one where at this point of the season.

944
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 3: Similar to what I was talking about so Laire at

945
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,760
Speaker 3: the top of the show, Uh you know, I want

946
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 3: paths to big upside right now. If it doesn't work

947
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:46,320
Speaker 3: out come July come August, I'll there'll be other guys

948
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 3: to you know, stream for two weeks. But but right now,

949
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 3: I still want a chance at someone who could make

950
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,839
Speaker 3: you know, a multi month impact in a in a big,

951
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 3: big way.

952
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you mentioned you mentioned last year eight games,

953
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 1: four home runs in those eight games, which is quite

954
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: different from what the majority of the prospects we've seen

955
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: do this season. We're you know, most prospects, even Jackson Holliday,

956
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: you know, the most serralded prospect out there, just came

957
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 1: up and fell flat on his face.

958
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 2: Domingaz did not do that last year.

959
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: He's you know, one of the top prospects in baseball,

960
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: if not the top prospect in baseball, depending on who

961
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 1: you ask.

962
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 2: And good lineup, good great ballpark at home to hit him.

963
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,879
Speaker 1: I think, you know, once he kind of comes back

964
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: and shows that he's healthy and you know, he was

965
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 1: like on like a you know, rehab assignment, but really

966
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 1: he's probably just gonna stay in the minors regardless for

967
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,800
Speaker 1: a little while. I think once he shows he's healthy

968
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 1: and continuing to produce in Triple.

969
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 2: A, you know, gets a maybe a couple more weeks

970
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:41,240
Speaker 2: under his belt.

971
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 1: I think even if everyone's healthy, They're gonna have to find,

972
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 1: you know, find a spot for him, especially if they

973
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,240
Speaker 1: want to keep up with the Orioles in the East

974
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 1: and you know, the teams in the American League. They're

975
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: just going to need to see what his what his

976
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,440
Speaker 1: ceiling is. Uh, this is a conversation for another day

977
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:57,760
Speaker 1: and another show. But I also think I've thought before

978
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: that a player like Jason Dominguez is why the Yankees

979
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 1: are going to need to break the bank for for

980
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 1: Juan Soto this this offseason, because I think you want

981
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:12,479
Speaker 1: someone like him just learning from want from Juan Soto.

982
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 1: You know, I don't care who you're hitting coaches, Juan

983
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 1: Soto is probably the best hitting coach you could ever hire.

984
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:18,920
Speaker 1: So just like get being able to watch him every

985
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: day and learn from from him and his approach. You know,

986
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 1: this kid is an elite prospect. He's twenty one years old.

987
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 1: I think you just kind of, you know, if you

988
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 1: can like sit him in between or around Juan Soto

989
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:31,880
Speaker 1: and Aaron Judges on a daily basis, you know, like

990
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: his ceiling just could be you know, the ceiling could

991
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 1: be the roof, as Michael Jordan would say, So why

992
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 1: don't you tell me about your favorite waiver pitcher this week,

993
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,800
Speaker 1: and it's a it's a favorite of mine, So I'm

994
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 1: hoping you can make a strong case.

995
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 3: For Okay, try to keep this one a little bit shorter,

996
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 3: but I ha Aaron Slavali and again, and you know,

997
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 3: depending on your league, he might have been you know,

998
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,399
Speaker 3: dropped recently due to you know, underperformance, and he might

999
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 3: have recently been picked up. But Yahoo shows thirty six

1000
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 3: percent rostered. He was again in that Pablo Passartica I

1001
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 3: wrote about some viol of pictures like a month ago,

1002
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 3: so the volley was also mentioned. He just had his

1003
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 3: left on base rate was just abnormally low. And again

1004
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,439
Speaker 3: this was like a month ago. He's been a little

1005
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 3: better since, you know, the past couple starts. Especially he's

1006
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:19,800
Speaker 3: got a two step coming up against Minnesota and Pitchburg

1007
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 3: that's super favorable. I just i' I thought, you know,

1008
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 3: Savali was just going to be this year's Eflyn and

1009
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:28,399
Speaker 3: was going to kind of be you know, an SB

1010
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 3: two or three, and that hasn't happened, and I'm starting

1011
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 3: to lose faith in that as his ultimate upside. But

1012
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 3: I did look at the Rays upcoming schedule because I'm

1013
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,720
Speaker 3: also invested in Toads Bradley in a lot of places,

1014
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:45,839
Speaker 3: who's similarly frustrating, and the schedule coming up for them

1015
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 3: is just extremely favorable. I also think Tampa is a

1016
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:53,439
Speaker 3: really underrated home park for these guys. It's it's really

1017
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 3: hard for opposing hitters to who aren't used to the

1018
00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 3: trap to hit there. And so, yeah, buying a week

1019
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 3: schedule with a lot of nice home starts, you know,

1020
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 3: some some macro level regression stuff in the left on

1021
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:09,360
Speaker 3: base rate and and yeah, so to me, saval is

1022
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:12,280
Speaker 3: a cheap way to get some you know, sturdy pitching,

1023
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 3: if not for the rest of the season, at least

1024
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:15,879
Speaker 3: for the next few weeks.

1025
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it. Like I said, Ern Savally is

1026
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 2: a favorite of mine. I've talked about him on.

1027
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,840
Speaker 1: The show a lot, and so so I won't go

1028
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 1: too deep in it because everyone already knows how I

1029
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 1: feel about Ern sa Valie I have, They've been listening

1030
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,960
Speaker 1: already this year. I'm just I'm just a big fan.

1031
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 1: I'm hoping that you're right about that regression. I've been

1032
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,320
Speaker 1: I've been calling for it all season, and yeah, to

1033
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,240
Speaker 1: start week, I always like to target those pictures especially

1034
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 1: you know, in the middle of the middle of the season,

1035
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 1: and I'm like making a lot of roster moves. I

1036
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 1: probably have a roster spot or two to churn. A

1037
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: lot of times, I'm targeting a two star pitcher, and

1038
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 1: that's exactly what I'm doing with my waiver pitcher this

1039
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,280
Speaker 1: week as well, because I'm going after Jake Irvin, who's

1040
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,359
Speaker 1: available in fifty percent of leagues, So may or may

1041
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: not be available in your league, but someone.

1042
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 2: You know, I'm definitely interested in streaming.

1043
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 1: He has two starts against I didn't I should have

1044
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 1: had it pulled up. I didn't have it pulled up

1045
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 1: in front of me, but I will look at it

1046
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: right now. He's against he's home against the Diamondbacks and

1047
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: then unfortunately on the road against the Rockies. But the

1048
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 1: kind of you know, double edged sword there is that

1049
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 1: you do have to go to coursefield, but you do

1050
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: get the Rockies lineup, and so that's a little scary

1051
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: to stream someone in cores. Traditionally you don't want to

1052
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 1: do that, But I'm still interested. He's been on a

1053
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 1: heater of late where he think he has let me

1054
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 1: count here one, two, three, four, five straight quality starts

1055
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,320
Speaker 1: hasn't allowed more than two and runs in any of

1056
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,800
Speaker 1: those quality starts, and six quality starts in his last

1057
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:40,439
Speaker 1: seven starts. And so he's just been really hot and

1058
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 1: he's available in half of leagues. He doesn't have probably

1059
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,280
Speaker 1: the highest ceiling out there, but he's just been really solid.

1060
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 1: Three ra era estimators are all between three twenty four,

1061
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:53,839
Speaker 1: three seventy nine, only sixty nine strikeouts, nice and eighty

1062
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:57,320
Speaker 1: one innings. But he just looks kind of like all around,

1063
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:57,800
Speaker 1: like solid.

1064
00:47:57,840 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 2: You know.

1065
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,399
Speaker 1: Cromulent would be kind of like the definition I would

1066
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,839
Speaker 1: go back to for Jake Irvan. He would probably be

1067
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,280
Speaker 1: the picture of crimula in the dictionary. In the dictionary.

1068
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 1: Any thoughts on Jake Irban.

1069
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 3: It feels gross to say this, but some of the

1070
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 3: Nationals pitchers they're not churning out, you know, aces, But

1071
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 3: you know, Mackenzie Gore is taking a step forward this year.

1072
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 3: Irvan has had some moments. Trevid Williams has had some moments.

1073
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,600
Speaker 3: Mitchell Parker has been usable for me in deeper leagues.

1074
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 3: Uh So, I'm not exactly to show what's going on.

1075
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 3: We don't normally look at Washington as a team being

1076
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 3: at the forefront of you know, pitching development. But they've

1077
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 3: caught my eye this year across their rotation.

1078
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Speaker 2: Not just across the rotation.

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Speaker 1: The Nationals as a team haven't been nearly as bad

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00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:42,359
Speaker 1: this season as I was expecting expecting them coming into

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00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,399
Speaker 1: the season. I think I have a ticket for their

1082
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 1: under and it's not looking for their win total under,

1083
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: and it's not looking good for what I've put down

1084
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: for it, because they're you know, they're playing close to

1085
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: five hundred right now. Now, they're not going to go

1086
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 1: to the playoffs or you know, win the NL es

1087
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,919
Speaker 1: with with the Affilies and Braves there, but I mean,

1088
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,439
Speaker 1: and they're fourteen games back of the Phillies, the Braves

1089
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: are ten games back of the Phillies, And so they're

1090
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 1: right there, not far behind the Braves at thirty two

1091
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 1: and thirty five, and they're better than the Mets. And

1092
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 1: it's kind of wild that, you know, you just look

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00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 1: at like their roster as a whole and you're just

1094
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,879
Speaker 1: kind of like, oh, that's gross. And they've just been

1095
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 1: pretty quietly solid like the entire year. I keep waiting

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00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 1: them for them to not sellid and then even with

1097
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 1: like C. J. Abrams cooling off a little bit recently,

1098
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,320
Speaker 1: still doing fine, so very interesting there.

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00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 2: Okay, our last two segments.

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Speaker 1: We like to do every week is a weekend excitement

1101
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 1: and then we get into our season long to start

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00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:40,320
Speaker 1: pitcher competition. So I will go first with weekend excitement

1103
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:43,879
Speaker 1: because I kind of usually when Worms on the show,

1104
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 1: he fills out weekend excitement first and then I just

1105
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 1: have to, you know, pick up the scraps with whatever's left.

1106
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 1: But this time I got there first, and so for

1107
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:54,240
Speaker 1: weekend excitement for one Father's Day, I have two young children,

1108
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 1: so it's always an exciting, exciting time to you know,

1109
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 1: celebrate Father's Day. Although this year my wife asked me

1110
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 1: what I wanted for Father's Day and I said to

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00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 1: be left alone, and she did not find that funny.

1112
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,360
Speaker 1: So we'll see how that goes for me this weekend

1113
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:13,719
Speaker 1: because we didn't we didn't never settle on a real

1114
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:19,319
Speaker 1: plan after that joke because she walked away, So we'll

1115
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,399
Speaker 1: see how that goes. It's also a big Red Sox

1116
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 1: Yankee series. I mentioned you know before, you know I'm

1117
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 1: a Red Sox fan. Not to continue bringing them up,

1118
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 1: but they're kind of like teetering on the verb, you know,

1119
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 1: on the edge of like, are we a five hundred

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00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 1: team that's going to make a push or are we

1121
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,879
Speaker 1: going to start selling soon? Their schedule has been pretty

1122
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:35,719
Speaker 1: favorable of late, but like I said, they're facing the

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Speaker 1: Phillies and Yankees, and if they just get decimated, you know,

1124
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 1: it could be trending in the wrong direction. And then

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Speaker 1: anytime you play the Yankees, you know, it's kind of

1126
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 1: like that rivalries must watch regardless of how good either

1127
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 1: team is, but especially with how good the Yankees and

1128
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 1: Aaron Judge are right now. And then also Phillies' Orioles

1129
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: is not a rivalry, but like two really good teams

1130
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,200
Speaker 1: and you're gonna get some good pitching matchups. Rangers Warrez

1131
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,320
Speaker 1: was the Kyle Bradish and then Zach Wheeler versus Corbyn

1132
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 1: Barn's two really good pitching matchups, and that really good

1133
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,799
Speaker 1: series I'm interested to watch, even though a Red Sox fan,

1134
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:06,799
Speaker 1: the like everything Philly is always close to my heart.

1135
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:09,760
Speaker 1: I lived in Philly for a long time, so interested

1136
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 1: in watching that as well. And also Matt Waldron. Matt

1137
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 1: Waldron for me is must watched, must watch television. I'm

1138
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 1: just obsessed with all things knuckleballs, and I just like

1139
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 1: I left, how Hardy throws the knuckleball. I just want

1140
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 1: them to be amazing and just pitched forever, because we

1141
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: need more knuckleballs in baseball.

1142
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 2: What about you? What are you looking forward to this weekend?

1143
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:30,640
Speaker 3: I love this segment because for me just being you know,

1144
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 3: so plugged in a baseball every single day, I do

1145
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 3: love you know, Okay, what are the big matchups of

1146
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 3: the weekend? Uh? You know, whether individual pitching matchups or

1147
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 3: team matchups. Like last week we had Yankees Dodgers that

1148
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 3: was a big thing. And yeah, like you said, this

1149
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 3: week we have Yankees Red Sox. I'm actually going to

1150
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,319
Speaker 3: Saturday nights game. I think it's your Don versus BeO,

1151
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:51,400
Speaker 3: So I'm excited for that. We'll see how many home moeries,

1152
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 3: Judge and Soto and stand combined for against us. But uh,

1153
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:57,479
Speaker 3: for for mine, I chose brew As reds. I wrote

1154
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:02,680
Speaker 3: about the Brewers for Baseball America this week, and I

1155
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 3: just love this team. The their top five offense, and

1156
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 3: I don't feel like enough people are acknowledging that William

1157
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:12,839
Speaker 3: Concerras is one of my favorite players in baseball. He's

1158
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 3: a catcher and he plays every single day and he's

1159
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:19,879
Speaker 3: had success as a hitter in different forms, which when

1160
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:21,759
Speaker 3: he was with the Braves, you know, it was a

1161
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 3: little bit more slug over average, and with the Brewers

1162
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 3: he's adjusted to make just way more contact. And I

1163
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 3: just kind of love that he's shown success in two

1164
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,000
Speaker 3: different forms. It makes me think he can you know,

1165
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 3: toggle between those as he goes, you know, throughout the

1166
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 3: next handful of years of his career. And you know,

1167
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 3: even with you know, mid series, mid game, if he

1168
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,840
Speaker 3: if he needs to turn on the power sacrifice a

1169
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 3: little bit of the contact to do so that I

1170
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 3: think he can do it. And then on the red

1171
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 3: side of things, you know, I do really want to

1172
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,240
Speaker 3: pay close attention to Elie de la Cruz. I think

1173
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 3: you know, he was kind of crowned in April as Okay,

1174
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 3: next year he's going to be, you know, a first

1175
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 3: round pick, and he's really struggled since. And I think

1176
00:53:02,200 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 3: everyone expected there to be like a little bit of

1177
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 3: peaks and valleys. But the longer the struggle goes on,

1178
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 3: the more questions we're going to have to answer this offseason.

1179
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 3: And if you're a sicko like me, you might already

1180
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:16,120
Speaker 3: be thinking about how you're going to play twenty twenty

1181
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 3: five drafts, and I think a huge question is going

1182
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 3: to be how you want to play Ellie, And so

1183
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 3: I'm trying to already start thinking about that. And again,

1184
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:29,520
Speaker 3: I just want to, you know, if he, after this month,

1185
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 3: rattles off another month like he did in April, then

1186
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 3: I think we'll just say, Okay, the story of Ellie

1187
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,160
Speaker 3: is going to be you just ride the highs and

1188
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:40,799
Speaker 3: lows and in the end it'll all be fine. But

1189
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 3: I'm really curious to see, you know, what his counter

1190
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:48,040
Speaker 3: adjustment is going to be and how soon he gets

1191
00:53:48,080 --> 00:53:48,439
Speaker 3: to it.

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00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, we talked about Ellie a few weeks ago, maybe

1193
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 1: a month ago in the show. We were kind of

1194
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 1: redrafting the first round, and I think we all consensus

1195
00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 1: had Ellie as a first round pick. And so it'll

1196
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 1: be interesting to see, you know, kind of like you said,

1197
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 1: like everything you said, kind of kind of how that

1198
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 1: is going forward. Because the ceiling is just, you know,

1199
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 1: almost unparalleled, and so as long as you can just

1200
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:14,640
Speaker 1: hit enough to reach anywhere close to that ceiling, you know,

1201
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 1: it's really exciting. You mentioned Baseball America a couple of times,

1202
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 1: and I realized I did a bad job at the

1203
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 1: top of the show introducing you, because I just assume

1204
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 1: everyone knows who you are, but you work at Underdog

1205
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:28,800
Speaker 1: Fantasy and you do some some work for Baseball America

1206
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 1: and as OG. Listeners of Leading Off obviously know know

1207
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 1: who you are because you were, you know, crucial and

1208
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 1: launching Leading Off back with Dan many years ago, working overnight.

1209
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 1: You also told me something recently that I think I

1210
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 1: knew at the time, but I kind of forgot. It

1211
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 1: was like just the original version of Leading Off that

1212
00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: you know we've talked about before, was like recorded at

1213
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 1: night and then you would like produce it in the

1214
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 1: middle of the night. And you told me that you

1215
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 1: would actually go to sleep, set an alarm, and then

1216
00:54:58,719 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 1: wake up at like one or two in the mon

1217
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 1: learning and produce Leading Off the audio version so that

1218
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 1: it was available for everyone like at six am when

1219
00:55:06,120 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: they woke up, which I thought was just wild. I

1220
00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 1: think I knew that, like wait, many years ago, but

1221
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 1: I'd forgotten about it until you mentioned.

1222
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:13,320
Speaker 2: It recently, and it kind of blew my mind.

1223
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 1: So is there anywhere people can go to like kind

1224
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 1: of find your work and what you're working on now?

1225
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 1: But you know, I know Underdog in Baseball America, but

1226
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 1: anything specifically.

1227
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I try to keep it as simple as possible.

1228
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,800
Speaker 3: It's on Twitter, you know, it's at too much tumor.

1229
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 3: And then I have a substack Brendantuma dot substack dot

1230
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:34,000
Speaker 3: com that's free to read. You know, I do a

1231
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 3: lot at Underdog. That's my full time job. And then yeah,

1232
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 3: every two weeks I write for Baseball America and Twitter

1233
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 3: is kind of, I guess, like the main place for it.

1234
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,839
Speaker 3: But again the substack is free to subscribe to too,

1235
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:49,799
Speaker 3: and that's kind of where I do some of these,

1236
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 3: you know, the Pablo Lopez, you know bilos, and just

1237
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 3: try to get my thoughts out there and you know,

1238
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 3: write about like what I'm doing in my leagues and why,

1239
00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 3: and you know that I find that that tends to

1240
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:04,400
Speaker 3: be the most helpful advice for people.

1241
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:08,320
Speaker 1: Awesome, And you're just absolutely a rising star in the

1242
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 1: industry and have been for a while, so very excited

1243
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 1: about that and all your work. And you do great work,

1244
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 1: especially when it comes to tow prospects, you know, kind

1245
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 1: of similar to Welsh and that you're just very deep

1246
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 1: in that prospect world and you can always kind of

1247
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:23,319
Speaker 1: see these younger plays, younger players coming before the rest

1248
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 1: of us usually can. So let's close things out with

1249
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 1: our season long two star pitcher competition, which is something

1250
00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 1: Worm and I started at the very beginning of the

1251
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 1: show and we've kept it going. And I need you

1252
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 1: to make a ruling here because now we're usually like

1253
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:41,759
Speaker 1: a week behind, you know, I talk about it every week.

1254
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 1: We're like a week behind because of like you know,

1255
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 1: last week's two start pitcher competition is still happening. You know,

1256
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:48,799
Speaker 1: it's Thursday, and so those pitchers aren't pitching again until

1257
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 1: like today or probably this weekend, and so we don't

1258
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 1: know who's gonna win. But two weeks ago I had

1259
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:59,120
Speaker 1: Matt Waldron and Worm had George Kirby, and the results

1260
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:00,960
Speaker 1: are very close. So I'm going to toss it to

1261
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:04,600
Speaker 1: you to make an official decision for who wins that matchup.

1262
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 1: So I and remember I'm the one on the show

1263
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 1: where's not here is nothing he can do.

1264
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 3: So yeah, I wish I didn't know who picked you,

1265
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,359
Speaker 3: just because you know that that would have made it fun.

1266
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 3: But just look at the line. To me, they're they're

1267
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 3: very very similar. I think literally basically the only difference

1268
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 3: I see, is like Kirby got five more strikeouts and

1269
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 3: allowed looks like five less base runners and gave up

1270
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 3: one run. So I'm going to take the five strikeouts there.

1271
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 3: I just think that that is going to be more valuable.

1272
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 3: And so I'm gonna crown Kirby and I'm very very

1273
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:38,440
Speaker 3: sorry about that. Matt Walgin gets all the style points

1274
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 3: though for the knuckleball.

1275
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 2: Of course, that's all right. We'll just edit that out.

1276
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 1: Well, just cut that part and I'll just record a

1277
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 1: solo segment for this and I'll make myself the winner.

1278
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 2: So don't worry about that.

1279
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 1: No, it's fine, So all right, I will unfortunately mark

1280
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 1: that in the sheet. I will never forgive you for this.

1281
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 1: Don't don't love the decision I actually wrote through. I

1282
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:05,360
Speaker 1: actually highlighted the wrong color. I should have just left it.

1283
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 1: That would have been funny.

1284
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:08,800
Speaker 3: I think if Waldron had got in a second win,

1285
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 3: wins are just you know, remain the most elusive category

1286
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:15,720
Speaker 3: for so many people. So if if there was a

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Speaker 3: difference in wins there, I think I just would have

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Speaker 3: gone with that blindly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think I always tease Weren't because he

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Speaker 1: uses this hit one of his leagues too, because it's

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Speaker 1: like a points league, so he usually, you know, we

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Speaker 1: didn't always use his the points blindly as like who

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00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:33,400
Speaker 1: you know won or lost, but like you know, sometimes

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Speaker 1: like the difference is like fifteen or twenty points, so

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Speaker 1: it's pretty clear.

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Speaker 2: I think that's one.

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Speaker 1: The points would be almost identical, and so that's why

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Speaker 1: it's really I think it would have been like thirty two

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Speaker 1: to thirty three.

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Speaker 2: You know who who got more points, So it's interesting.

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Speaker 2: I will see that he got.

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Speaker 1: More strikeouts, although I will argue that Waldron allowed six hits,

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Speaker 1: one third more inning pitched, and I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you missed that war mark one fewer earned run, so

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Speaker 1: I'll see defeat there. But the other thing is that

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Speaker 1: you know, like I mentioned, Worm is on vacation for

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Speaker 1: two weeks, and then I'm gonna be on for two weeks.

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Speaker 2: And so what I decided without.

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Speaker 1: Permission is that what our guests while we're out are

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Speaker 1: gonna pick for us, and they're gonna count in our

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Speaker 1: official tally. Coming into this week, we were tied four

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Speaker 1: to four. Thanks to your ruling, Worm is now up

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Speaker 1: five to four, So thank you for that, And so

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna have you pick Worm's two start picture for

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Speaker 1: this week?

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Speaker 2: So who are you gonna go with for Worm this week?

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Speaker 3: Well, I'll help you back here by you know, possibly

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Speaker 3: giving Worm a real risk of a blow up here,

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Speaker 3: and I'll go with Pablo Lopez. Again we've discussed enough

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Speaker 3: at this point, but he's got a two step. I

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00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 3: wrote the matchups here. They're pretty good. Oh yeah, home

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Speaker 3: against Tampa and then at Oakland. So again again, this

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00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 3: is the stretch for Pablo where you know, he had

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Speaker 3: the Colorado start and now he's got two more good

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Speaker 3: starts for matchups, and if he's not coming through with these,

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Speaker 3: I guess we'll start to worry a little bit more.

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Speaker 3: But for the time being, we're going to go to

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Speaker 3: it in a week that didn't have a ton of

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Speaker 3: great two start options.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I hope he gets I hope he gets blown up.

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Speaker 1: So I appreciate you your rooting for that. I don't

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Speaker 1: know that Warm and I went on on a run

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Speaker 1: there where we kind of had some really bad luck.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you can get much worse than

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01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 1: the run we had one week. He picked Emerson Hancock

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01:00:20,560 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 1: for who knows why he picked Emerson Hancock, but he

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01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 1: actually got sent down before his second start, so that

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01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 1: was a brutal, brutal week. The following week I had

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Speaker 1: Ronel Blanco, the week he was suspended for cheating, So

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Speaker 1: that was a rough two start week for me. And

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Speaker 1: not the following week, but the week after that, which

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01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 1: is the last I know what we just graded. Last

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Speaker 1: week he had Max Fried whose start gout moved and

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Speaker 1: he didn't even actually make two starts, and so I

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Speaker 1: want that week by default. So when we do make picks,

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Speaker 1: they actually pick. You know that when they make their

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Speaker 1: two starts, they pitch really well. But in three of

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Speaker 1: the last four weeks, we haven't even gotten two starts

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Speaker 1: out of some of these guys, so it's been pretty

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01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:58,920
Speaker 1: easy to gree My pick this week is someone who

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01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 1: were always kind of makes fun of me because I'm

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01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:03,360
Speaker 1: I try to play the long game here and like

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Speaker 1: not use my elite starters, and he's like, you know,

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01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:07,520
Speaker 1: this season's only only so long. Who knows how long

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01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 1: we're me doing this, you know, just use the great

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Speaker 1: starters while they're there. But I'm going with John Gray,

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01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 1: someone who's been pitching really well this season, but you know,

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01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 1: maybe in two weeks he's not, and so I'm going

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01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 1: to use him while he's hot and you know, maybe

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Speaker 1: save one of those more elite starters. And he has

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Speaker 1: two starts this week against the Mets at home and

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Speaker 1: against the Royals at home, So two home starts for

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Speaker 1: John Gray. Any thoughts on John Gray.

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Speaker 3: I'm a fan. He had had a recent injury, but

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Speaker 3: for the start the year, he was someone who was

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Speaker 3: really popping for me as just one of these, you know,

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01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 3: big group of globby starters who you know, we're beginning

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01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:47,480
Speaker 3: to ascend a little bit and we'll see what happens

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01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 3: with Texas the rest of the way. But I still

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Speaker 3: view them as, you know, overall, a pretty good team

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Speaker 3: or a team that you know, really pushing to try

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01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 3: to win. And again, like I care a lot about

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01:01:56,920 --> 01:01:59,240
Speaker 3: going all the way back to our Drew Thorpe discussion

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Speaker 3: or getting the show like versus Pope, which I really

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01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:05,520
Speaker 3: care about wins as long as you play in the league.

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Speaker 3: That accounts them because they can be so tough to

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01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:10,280
Speaker 3: They're so tough to get and I just always want

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Speaker 3: to have pitches on good teams. That's kind of the

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Speaker 3: way that I counter, Yeah, just how scarce they can be.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's he's been incredible. But with him there's

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01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:27,960
Speaker 1: always kind of injury questions and performance questions, but he's

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01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 1: you know, he's at a course field course field can't

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Speaker 1: hurt us anymore.

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Speaker 3: Injury questions and performance questions. But otherwise he's incredible.

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01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:40,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, Whenever he's healthy and pitching well, he's great. But

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Speaker 1: when he's not either of those things, he's a bad

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Speaker 1: as bad as it gets. All Right, that's all we

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