WEBVTT - #79 - Belly 0:00:03.160 --> 0:00:05.840 All right, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the bootlet Cap Podcast. 0:00:05.920 --> 0:00:11.600 Episode number who fucking knows no fucking idea what I think? 0:00:11.600 --> 0:00:14.880 It's eighty eighty nine, seventy one, seventy seven, seven, eleven 0:00:15.720 --> 0:00:19.360 fucking forty eight, goddamn four to seven. Anyway, Hey, welcome 0:00:19.400 --> 0:00:21.759 to the boutlet Cap Podcast. Today. We got a dope 0:00:21.800 --> 0:00:24.880 episode because we have my good friend Belly on the podcast. 0:00:24.920 --> 0:00:27.200 Belly's one of my favorite rappers, one of my favorite people. 0:00:27.880 --> 0:00:33.560 Somebody who lyrically is a fucking magician on the microphone. 0:00:33.720 --> 0:00:38.440 This guy signed to XO. 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We got a special 0:02:15.160 --> 0:02:19.040 guest in here, my brother Belly. Yes, sir, welcome, sir, 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:24.440 of course. Man, I've been extremely privileged to actually listen 0:02:24.520 --> 0:02:26.560 to your new album that I don't know when it's 0:02:26.600 --> 0:02:28.919 coming out. I don't know when it's coming out, but 0:02:29.360 --> 0:02:30.960 you got you've got. You've got a few records out 0:02:31.000 --> 0:02:33.520 from the album. You just dropped the money bay Yo 0:02:33.600 --> 0:02:37.200 project or song rather and video right videos out yep. 0:02:38.520 --> 0:02:43.399 But this album is it's got some uh. I don't 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:45.200 want to give away too many of your secrets, but 0:02:45.240 --> 0:02:49.480 it is a man Hi. I mean, You've had, in 0:02:49.480 --> 0:02:53.040 my opinion, like projects that I consider personal classics like 0:02:53.120 --> 0:02:58.520 for me, but this project feels like some of these 0:02:58.639 --> 0:03:01.280 names you got on the same song songs have never 0:03:01.320 --> 0:03:04.200 been on songs together, and they're like the biggest of 0:03:04.240 --> 0:03:07.639 the big Like this album feels like I know it's 0:03:07.680 --> 0:03:10.200 not your debut album. I know it's not in any 0:03:10.200 --> 0:03:12.560 means your debut, but it feels like like like your 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:15.960 biggest moment is like still still to come. Like yeah, 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:19.200 absolutely man. And I feel like the more the more 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:21.640 I created with this album, Like the further along I 0:03:21.680 --> 0:03:24.680 got into the album, I was like, all right, there's something, 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:26.640 there's something happening here, you know what I mean, Like 0:03:26.760 --> 0:03:29.400 just the songs we were able to create together and stuff. 0:03:31.680 --> 0:03:34.000 It was just like a different experience. Even creating it 0:03:34.040 --> 0:03:36.920 was different this time. I really took my time you 0:03:36.960 --> 0:03:40.840 know normally. I'm just like, you know, well it's been 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:45.000 a few years, man, because Immigrant came out in twenty eighteen, 0:03:45.320 --> 0:03:47.160 and that was your last project. Yeah, that was the 0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:52.880 last one. That's insane. Yeah, what what made you take 0:03:52.920 --> 0:03:54.920 so much time off? I want to say off, but 0:03:55.080 --> 0:03:57.160 take so much time to work on a body of work. 0:03:57.200 --> 0:04:01.160 I guess honestly, it wasn't all working on this project. 0:04:01.680 --> 0:04:03.880 First was working on me. Yeah. I was gonna say 0:04:03.920 --> 0:04:05.120 I wanted to get into that because I know you 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:07.160 went through some depression and ship the last few years, 0:04:07.200 --> 0:04:10.160 and it was like it was it was like deeper 0:04:10.160 --> 0:04:11.280 than that, you know what I mean, Like you know 0:04:12.080 --> 0:04:15.080 they put titles on things we go through, you know 0:04:15.120 --> 0:04:18.080 what I mean. But yeah, I was I was just 0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:19.840 I was just in a position where I had been 0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:22.720 in the game for so long. I kind of experienced 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:25.400 you know, the ups and the downs of the game, 0:04:25.440 --> 0:04:27.400 and you know what I mean, everything the kind of 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:30.960 you know feel and I don't know, man, just got 0:04:30.960 --> 0:04:32.880 to a point where I was like, it's all I've 0:04:32.920 --> 0:04:34.599 ever done, Like I got I want to I want 0:04:34.600 --> 0:04:37.320 to just sit down and just see what what my 0:04:37.600 --> 0:04:39.240 you know, my brain comes up with, you know, what 0:04:39.279 --> 0:04:42.840 I mean, And really it was it was like an 0:04:42.880 --> 0:04:45.960 investment in myself because I didn't really work or at 0:04:46.040 --> 0:04:50.360 least like you know, working away like where like money 0:04:50.400 --> 0:04:52.040 was coming in all the time, like it was right, 0:04:52.080 --> 0:04:56.040 I had to like block that, uh you know that 0:04:56.080 --> 0:05:02.640 financial fucking yeah, because you're always motivated by the bags, 0:05:03.000 --> 0:05:04.240 you know what I mean. It's like, yo, when you 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:06.600 have so much money coming in and and that you 0:05:06.839 --> 0:05:08.920 kind of have that mental expectation in your head, like 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:12.599 I'm sure that's hard a hard thing to turn off. Yeah, 0:05:12.680 --> 0:05:14.640 but it was like it was at a point where 0:05:14.640 --> 0:05:16.800 it was like, cool, I could I could die right 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:20.640 now with however much money in the bank, and then 0:05:20.680 --> 0:05:23.080 you have your residual money coming in anyway from publishing 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:24.800 and music and all that. But yeah, but I mean, 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:26.960 you know when when you when when you sit down, 0:05:28.000 --> 0:05:32.560 like like the career that I was blessed enough to build, right, 0:05:32.640 --> 0:05:35.960 it sustained a lifestyle that I was blessed enough to live. 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:43.880 And then when you cut that, you really realize how crazy, uh, 0:05:44.160 --> 0:05:48.040 you know, spending habits just just just just the way 0:05:48.080 --> 0:05:49.840 I was living was just crazy, you know what I mean. 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:51.880 So it was it was a good time for me 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:54.640 to just sit down and just like reassess everything and 0:05:54.800 --> 0:05:57.000 uh and like really see, I was like, you know 0:05:57.040 --> 0:05:59.600 how they say like let you know, let the bird 0:05:59.640 --> 0:06:01.960 go and it comes back. DMX said that, and that's 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:03.920 all I remember. DMX said that if you love something, 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:07.400 let it go. Yeah. In facts, that's really facts, because 0:06:07.400 --> 0:06:09.279 like I was like, yo, you know what if this 0:06:09.360 --> 0:06:11.640 is if this is really for me the way I 0:06:11.680 --> 0:06:14.320 know it's for me deep down the side, but that 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:16.359 don't matter right now. Like if it's really for me, 0:06:16.480 --> 0:06:19.159 then something will draw me back to this and and 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:21.360 I'm gonna come back and I'm gonna feel better about 0:06:21.400 --> 0:06:23.600 it than the first time I ever did it, you 0:06:23.640 --> 0:06:27.120 know what I mean. So as far as music, music, yeah, yeah, 0:06:27.200 --> 0:06:29.719 so so that's that's how music started to feel like 0:06:29.720 --> 0:06:33.640 like you started to feel like work before the break, 0:06:34.000 --> 0:06:38.440 before the hiatus, you know, yeah, job absolutely. And it 0:06:38.480 --> 0:06:41.320 wasn't like I was, you know, being told like do 0:06:41.360 --> 0:06:43.400 this or do it was just going in the studio 0:06:43.560 --> 0:06:46.440 was just like all right, like you know like what 0:06:46.600 --> 0:06:50.240 now you know what I mean? And you know it 0:06:50.360 --> 0:06:51.960 just it just it was It was the best thing, 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:53.520 I think, the smartest thing I ever did in my 0:06:53.560 --> 0:06:55.280 life was to just sit down for a second and 0:06:55.360 --> 0:06:58.160 just take a breath and just you know, figure things out. 0:06:58.320 --> 0:07:01.440 What was that motivation initially where you you came to 0:07:01.480 --> 0:07:03.240 a point where you were like I gotta do this, 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:05.680 like I gotta it was? It was it were you 0:07:05.760 --> 0:07:08.200 just overwhelmed? Like was there a breaking point where you 0:07:08.200 --> 0:07:11.000 were like if I keep going down this path, I 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:13.920 might go crazy or something. What was it? I think 0:07:14.000 --> 0:07:17.040 I was just like so focused on all the negative 0:07:17.080 --> 0:07:18.760 things that were going on in my life, you know 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:21.040 what I mean. And it was a lot of things. 0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:23.840 It was things on a family level, right, things on 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:28.040 you know, obviously financial levels and all everything. You know, 0:07:28.440 --> 0:07:29.760 there was a lot of things going on with my 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:36.640 career everything. So I think I think like when I 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:39.600 initially when I wanted to step back and you know, 0:07:39.960 --> 0:07:42.080 really take the break, it wasn't like a decision I made. 0:07:42.320 --> 0:07:46.800 It was I just can't go there right now, you 0:07:46.800 --> 0:07:49.360 know what I mean. They like, oh, there's this this 0:07:49.400 --> 0:07:51.760 thing going on or this event or this session or whatever. 0:07:51.840 --> 0:07:54.880 I just can't. I can't go there right now. I 0:07:54.920 --> 0:07:56.840 can't Like I wouldn't even I would be doing you 0:07:56.880 --> 0:07:59.920 with the service if I showed up in this state, 0:08:00.160 --> 0:08:02.000 like I'm not I'm no good to nobody right now. 0:08:02.080 --> 0:08:04.040 I just need to go somewhere and just figure my 0:08:04.080 --> 0:08:06.120 life out, you know what I mean. So that's what 0:08:06.160 --> 0:08:09.480 I did. It wasn't like a specific moment. It was 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:13.040 just like me just just being so repelled by the 0:08:13.080 --> 0:08:14.880 other ship that I just wanted to get away from it, 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:19.360 you know. And what what Because I remember I tapped 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:21.120 back in with you, I think late last year or 0:08:21.160 --> 0:08:23.400 something with talk and you were like, yo, man, you know, 0:08:23.400 --> 0:08:26.040 I've went through a real bout of like being down, 0:08:26.160 --> 0:08:28.920 you know what I mean? And what exactly like was 0:08:28.960 --> 0:08:31.960 the breaking through point for you where you were motivated 0:08:32.000 --> 0:08:35.720 again to make incredible music because your album is incredible. 0:08:35.920 --> 0:08:39.120 Thank you man, Thank you. You know, I'm blessed. I'm 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:42.640 blessed to be around some geniuses and some people that 0:08:43.600 --> 0:08:45.360 do what they do with the highest level, you know 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:48.840 what I mean. And I think just getting to watch 0:08:49.120 --> 0:08:51.800 Able firsthand, you know, the Weekend first and of course 0:08:51.920 --> 0:08:55.280 music and just Crazy Run he was on. I mean, 0:08:55.600 --> 0:08:57.360 I mean just that album. I feel like it's just 0:08:57.440 --> 0:09:00.680 I've never seen an album with more legs like yeah, man, 0:09:00.920 --> 0:09:03.079 like he's gonna tour for that album next year and 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:05.080 it came out of twenty nineteen, Like it's crazy, and 0:09:05.120 --> 0:09:08.000 honestly the album deserves it because it's like those are 0:09:08.040 --> 0:09:09.839 the things that inspire me. When I watch someone put 0:09:09.840 --> 0:09:12.319 together a masterpiece like that and I got front rod, 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:16.640 you know, seats to the show, like that's that's inspired. 0:09:16.679 --> 0:09:19.440 Those are some of the moments that made me be like, yo, yeah, 0:09:19.480 --> 0:09:21.040 you know what I do. I do love this. There's 0:09:21.040 --> 0:09:23.679 something about this to that that like, you know, it's 0:09:23.720 --> 0:09:26.199 it's something that's different than anything else on the planet. 0:09:26.320 --> 0:09:29.640 Nothing else can make me feel like this. So those 0:09:29.720 --> 0:09:31.400 those are the moments that started to kind of swing 0:09:31.520 --> 0:09:33.760 me back, you know what I mean. Yeah, I mean creatively, 0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:36.760 like I feel like you're kind of a When I 0:09:36.800 --> 0:09:39.679 meet other Belly fans, it's like we're like we're like, uh, 0:09:40.840 --> 0:09:43.560 it's almost like an exclusive sneaker club or something. You 0:09:43.559 --> 0:09:46.120 know what I'm saying, Like like if you know, you 0:09:46.200 --> 0:09:48.800 know type shit like oh you fuck with Belly? Oh shit, 0:09:49.160 --> 0:09:51.439 Like yeah, you know what I mean. I love that though. 0:09:51.480 --> 0:09:54.280 I love that. I love that man, yeah, because I 0:09:54.640 --> 0:09:57.560 still feel somehow you're still you still don't get your 0:09:58.040 --> 0:10:02.079 flowers as far as just your talent in your catalog, 0:10:02.200 --> 0:10:06.240 and you know, when we talk about the best rappers, 0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:08.559 and obviously you haven't, you know, you've taken taken a 0:10:08.559 --> 0:10:10.520 few years off, but just in general, I feel like 0:10:10.559 --> 0:10:13.959 your name is should be in more of those conversations. 0:10:14.559 --> 0:10:17.600 It's cool. I think it will be, you know, I 0:10:17.640 --> 0:10:20.680 think it will be like I get to feed my 0:10:20.720 --> 0:10:23.040 family with this man, I get to support my life. 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:26.040 I get to do whatever I basically want to do, 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:28.560 doing something I love every day. You know. And by 0:10:28.559 --> 0:10:31.000 the way, congrats, I know you and your girl just 0:10:31.200 --> 0:10:33.679 took a big old step and you told me about it, 0:10:34.000 --> 0:10:36.880 like like last month or something that. Yeah, absolutely, man. 0:10:36.960 --> 0:10:39.360 You had to go to New York to meet her family. 0:10:39.720 --> 0:10:42.640 Yeah yeah. When I met the family, amazing people. Man. 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:45.720 It was like, you know, it just showed me. You know, 0:10:45.800 --> 0:10:48.440 like when you look at somebody's family and they're that good, 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:50.640 You're like, Okay, I know exactly where you came from. 0:10:51.360 --> 0:10:54.439 And if I remember correctly, you're saying your girls Catholic 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:58.280 or her family's Catholic, and you're obviously from a Muslim background, right, 0:10:58.400 --> 0:11:01.600 so when you went out there, you tell me the 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:04.640 story about you gifted her parents something you had to 0:11:04.679 --> 0:11:07.480 go get a statue somewhere. Yeah, I mean it wasn't 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:09.280 don't have to it was but no, but but but 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:11.040 but you got you know, you went out there to 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:13.240 make an impression obviously, as we all have, you know 0:11:13.240 --> 0:11:16.640 what I mean. Yeah, yeah, I think, yeah, man, I 0:11:16.679 --> 0:11:18.680 went out there, and honestly, I was. I was nervous 0:11:18.720 --> 0:11:21.800 because other times and other points in my life when 0:11:22.120 --> 0:11:25.640 this situation would arise, like with you know, previous relationships 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:28.080 and or whatever, man, I would I would show up 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:31.080 to the house and they would, man, they would go 0:11:31.160 --> 0:11:32.599 in you know what I mean, like they would I 0:11:32.640 --> 0:11:35.880 would be in an interrogation room basically, right, you know. 0:11:36.000 --> 0:11:37.960 And and so I think this time I was like 0:11:38.040 --> 0:11:39.559 mad nervous, you know. I wanted to make sure I 0:11:39.600 --> 0:11:44.600 did everything right. And uh, you know, I went bought 0:11:44.600 --> 0:11:47.360 the gift obviously, I bought some wine, and I went 0:11:47.400 --> 0:11:49.520 to the crib. And mind you, I don't I don't 0:11:49.559 --> 0:11:52.560 really get nervous over a lot, you know what I mean, Like, 0:11:52.600 --> 0:11:54.439 it really takes a lot to get me nervous. I 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:58.719 was damn there shaking, you know. But from the first moment, man, 0:11:58.800 --> 0:12:01.360 like the door open, you know, her Pops was just 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:04.400 like open arms invited me in. It was it was 0:12:04.440 --> 0:12:06.199 for me, it was a new experience. I've never I've 0:12:06.240 --> 0:12:08.800 never had that happen. Yeah, yeah, you know, so it 0:12:08.840 --> 0:12:11.120 was it was just really dope to have to have 0:12:11.240 --> 0:12:14.560 like that type of like welcoming response and just really 0:12:14.600 --> 0:12:18.440 really good people. Are you? Uh is this because obviously 0:12:18.480 --> 0:12:23.520 you know, being belly, being somebody who's uh your your 0:12:23.559 --> 0:12:27.280 your wraps are extremely uh descriptive when it comes to 0:12:27.320 --> 0:12:29.800 women and ship. You know what I'm saying is, uh 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:32.160 is how hard is it for you to like like 0:12:32.280 --> 0:12:35.199 like make a conscious decision to be like, you know what, 0:12:35.280 --> 0:12:38.080 I found the one? Like it was that because I 0:12:38.120 --> 0:12:41.280 think we've all been in situations where we are we 0:12:41.360 --> 0:12:43.520 think we're in love, but I think a lot of 0:12:43.559 --> 0:12:46.920 it's lust, right, But to really find that one person 0:12:46.920 --> 0:12:48.480 and I just got married a couple of years ago, 0:12:48.520 --> 0:12:51.480 it's like it just feels different, man like and like 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:54.040 you could again you have a that's the best thing 0:12:54.040 --> 0:12:56.240 in the world, though, Yeah, it's really the best thing, Like, 0:12:57.120 --> 0:13:01.920 you know, from me, I think when I when I 0:13:02.080 --> 0:13:05.440 found that, I wasn't looking for it, and that was 0:13:05.480 --> 0:13:07.400 the best. That's the best part about it. Best part 0:13:07.440 --> 0:13:09.959 about it. It's like I don't think she was neither. 0:13:10.320 --> 0:13:13.280 I mean, it was just it just happened. And I 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:16.160 think that's like, I know it sounds cliche and all that, 0:13:17.320 --> 0:13:19.600 but that's really me and my wife. Like I didn't. 0:13:19.720 --> 0:13:22.280 I was no. I got out of a real shitty 0:13:22.600 --> 0:13:24.960 uh not married with a relationship with my son's mom. 0:13:25.000 --> 0:13:27.560 It was terrible, and I was like, all right, finally 0:13:27.600 --> 0:13:31.600 I'm free. I'm gonna just get it out. It's good. 0:13:32.760 --> 0:13:36.800 Yo yo yo, yo yo, all right. But I was 0:13:36.840 --> 0:13:39.439 like ready to just take down. I was ready to 0:13:39.480 --> 0:13:42.800 catch some bodies in these streets. And then I'm her 0:13:42.840 --> 0:13:46.040 and I connected and I was like, damn, look at this. 0:13:46.760 --> 0:13:49.840 I was not expecting this ship. That's really how it be, man, 0:13:50.440 --> 0:13:53.400 And like I'm I'm over all that other ship, like 0:13:53.440 --> 0:13:55.800 I said, like the like the like the life quote 0:13:55.840 --> 0:13:58.880 unquot Yeah, like I think you know we've lived that ship. Man, 0:13:58.880 --> 0:14:01.360 it should turn me off so much that I walked 0:14:01.360 --> 0:14:04.319 away from the game. Like that's like that whole ship 0:14:04.400 --> 0:14:06.319 I think comes with so much baggage and like of 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:09.760 course evil shit around it. Like I just it was 0:14:09.760 --> 0:14:11.240 a good thing for me to leave all of it. 0:14:11.360 --> 0:14:14.240 And then on top of that. Just having somebody like 0:14:14.280 --> 0:14:17.800 Dina in my life like she was, it was like 0:14:17.800 --> 0:14:21.480 an important moment for me to meet her, go into 0:14:21.520 --> 0:14:23.520 my next like where you were in life like she 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:26.240 kind of Yeah, I feel important man, like she really 0:14:26.280 --> 0:14:28.880 even when I was down on my you know, my worst, like, 0:14:28.960 --> 0:14:32.000 she nurtured me back, leveled you up, man, got you back. Yeah, 0:14:32.080 --> 0:14:34.480 And you know it's a blessing, bro. Like I that 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:36.160 to me is one of the best things, if not 0:14:36.200 --> 0:14:38.360 the best thing that ever happened to me, is you know, 0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:40.800 locking down with one person, having one person that I 0:14:40.800 --> 0:14:43.120 know got my back and I got hers. That's amazing. Bro. 0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:49.840 Why is the album called See You Next Wednesday? Man? 0:14:50.920 --> 0:14:53.160 So I, Man, I go down rabbit holes with ship, 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:55.520 you know what I mean? So I with movies and 0:14:55.560 --> 0:14:59.680 all that. Of course, John Landis he directed like thriller, 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:03.880 bunch of hit movies in the early nineties, and he 0:15:03.920 --> 0:15:06.400 would always sneak that into his movies. I See You 0:15:06.440 --> 0:15:10.280 Next Wednesday would be like a billboard or like a thriller. 0:15:10.880 --> 0:15:13.320 When Michael Jackson gets up to walk out of the theater, 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:17.360 you hear the voice whisper see you Next Wednesday in 0:15:17.400 --> 0:15:20.200 the background. That was like his Easter egg and got 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:24.280 a lot of his movies, right, So I thought that 0:15:24.400 --> 0:15:26.840 was cool. Just just like that, I was just like, oh, 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:28.600 as dope as hell, like I'll just you know, I 0:15:28.600 --> 0:15:30.600 want to pay homage to John Landis, you know what 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:34.440 I mean. And I dug deeper obviously the rabbit hole, 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:35.840 you know what I mean, you'd be high as fuck 0:15:35.960 --> 0:15:40.440 just trying to find out more. And finally I got 0:15:40.480 --> 0:15:43.320 to the to the to the gist of the whole 0:15:43.360 --> 0:15:46.040 thing is that was the first script that he wrote 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:51.920 and it never got made right, and that in that 0:15:51.960 --> 0:15:54.240 position that I was in in that moment, it was 0:15:54.120 --> 0:15:56.120 It was crazy because when I read that, I was like, 0:15:57.160 --> 0:15:59.880 I I know why, this is like kind of call 0:16:00.040 --> 0:16:02.160 on my name, you know what I mean? Because the 0:16:02.160 --> 0:16:04.120 way the dots connected it, it just felt like the 0:16:04.120 --> 0:16:06.120 same thing I was going through it, like I'm making 0:16:06.160 --> 0:16:09.160 some shit right now. I don't even know if it's 0:16:09.160 --> 0:16:10.480 going to see the light of day. I don't know 0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:11.840 if I'm gonna come back to let it see the 0:16:11.920 --> 0:16:14.120 light of day, you know what I mean. So when 0:16:14.120 --> 0:16:16.080 you were working on this project, you were just working 0:16:16.080 --> 0:16:18.400 on it for you. You were working on it like 0:16:18.840 --> 0:16:21.040 to turn it into your label or to like, yo, 0:16:21.120 --> 0:16:23.080 this is a hit, or you know now you were 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:26.120 just working. Yeah, it was honestly for me, it was 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:30.560 like getting in there and testing and challenging myself to 0:16:30.640 --> 0:16:35.280 be like, Okay, what you did yesterday sucked. Like I 0:16:35.320 --> 0:16:38.840 had to like really just give myself talks because you know, 0:16:38.920 --> 0:16:41.000 like I said, it was like relearning all of this shit. 0:16:41.040 --> 0:16:42.680 You know, you walk away from it for so long. 0:16:43.320 --> 0:16:45.280 It was always my outlet, like my way to like 0:16:45.320 --> 0:16:47.840 say things and all that, you know, So it was 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:51.760 really hard to not have that anymore, to be going 0:16:51.760 --> 0:16:53.520 through shit that I want to talk about and I 0:16:53.560 --> 0:16:55.680 want to be able to put in songs. But it's 0:16:55.720 --> 0:16:57.920 just the way my brain is taking it. It's not 0:16:58.000 --> 0:16:59.880 letting me, you know what I mean. It's not letting 0:16:59.880 --> 0:17:02.560 me put nothing on paper. I can't think of nothing 0:17:02.600 --> 0:17:06.320 witty to say around these things, or nothing poetic to 0:17:06.320 --> 0:17:08.359 say around these things. It was just too black and 0:17:08.359 --> 0:17:10.040 white in my head for me, you know what I mean. 0:17:10.720 --> 0:17:13.479 So I think it was like a challenge to myself 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:15.600 to get in there every day and be like I 0:17:15.640 --> 0:17:17.879 fuck that, Like I'm I gotta break this wall and 0:17:17.960 --> 0:17:20.679 like do what I do, you know, just you know, 0:17:20.880 --> 0:17:23.960 it's really what I do best, you know, so day 0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:26.960 by day I really just had to just build myself 0:17:27.000 --> 0:17:29.920 back up, and you know, God blessed the album ended 0:17:29.960 --> 0:17:31.760 up being what it was. But really, if it didn't 0:17:31.800 --> 0:17:34.360 go there and I wasn't as proud as I am 0:17:34.720 --> 0:17:37.399 of this project, then that really would have been my 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:41.200 see you next Wednesday, John Landa Style. Yeah, I think 0:17:41.240 --> 0:17:43.360 you and I might have even had like I think 0:17:43.520 --> 0:17:45.840 we each when I said that was my favorite songer Like, 0:17:45.840 --> 0:17:47.400 that's crazy because that was my favorite. So I'm trying 0:17:47.400 --> 0:17:48.880 to remember what the name of it was. I don't 0:17:48.880 --> 0:17:51.000 want to give away if it wasn't any it wasn't 0:17:51.040 --> 0:17:52.720 a record with a big feature, though it might have 0:17:52.760 --> 0:17:56.040 been something to do with the devil or demons or something. 0:17:56.160 --> 0:17:59.080 Was Is there a record light? I'm trying to think 0:17:59.400 --> 0:18:02.720 there was some some man, the album is crazy, But 0:18:02.840 --> 0:18:05.280 I feel like on this project you definitely touch on 0:18:05.960 --> 0:18:10.640 a lot of personal ship that you've You've always kind 0:18:10.640 --> 0:18:13.639 of grazed over a lot of your personal life, like 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:15.920 ship with your pop stuff like that. Like I feel 0:18:15.920 --> 0:18:17.880 like on this project, like you really dive into some 0:18:17.880 --> 0:18:20.080 some issues that you know you've gone through and ship 0:18:20.200 --> 0:18:24.639 like talk about there's your journey with with with drugs 0:18:24.680 --> 0:18:26.760 and ship, because that's something that you've always been very 0:18:26.840 --> 0:18:32.520 upfront about, whether it's get like being super loaded on ship, 0:18:32.600 --> 0:18:35.840 getting clean or et cetera. Like where how are you 0:18:35.880 --> 0:18:38.640 doing now? You know when it comes to obviously we're 0:18:38.680 --> 0:18:39.960 not talking about weed and ship, you know what I 0:18:40.000 --> 0:18:44.920 mean when it comes to the other ship. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:18:45.400 --> 0:18:49.040 I quite like quote unquote hard drugs right right, right 0:18:49.119 --> 0:18:52.600 right quit a couple of years ago. Hard liquor too. 0:18:52.680 --> 0:18:54.960 I don't drink hard liquor no more so you don't 0:18:55.000 --> 0:18:57.480 you when you say hard liquor, so you're not drinking tequila. 0:18:57.560 --> 0:19:02.040 You're just just just wine wine, maybe like maybe sak 0:19:02.400 --> 0:19:06.720 sometimes I stuff like that. But it's just like wead 0:19:06.800 --> 0:19:11.159 wine and psychedelics for you know, you were talking me 0:19:11.200 --> 0:19:16.200 and you had a conversation about psychedelics, but right before 0:19:16.200 --> 0:19:18.680 you came out and you said you were thinking about 0:19:18.680 --> 0:19:23.800 writing a book or you're gonna write a psychedelic inspired book, right, absolutely, yeah, 0:19:23.840 --> 0:19:27.520 what's it? What's it gonna be called? How psychedelics saved 0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:31.320 my life? Tell me how they saved your life? Man? Well, 0:19:31.400 --> 0:19:34.960 I think again the rabbit hole, Yes, I started reading 0:19:34.960 --> 0:19:39.800 a lot of a lot of literature about just dosing, 0:19:39.920 --> 0:19:44.280 what different doses could do for you, and it just 0:19:44.320 --> 0:19:46.359 all depends on the effect that you want, you know 0:19:46.400 --> 0:19:50.879 what I mean. So I started microdosing in the middle 0:19:50.880 --> 0:19:54.040 of wow ship that was going on. Of course, of 0:19:54.080 --> 0:19:58.840 course I started microdosing. And I'm not gonna say like, oh, 0:19:58.840 --> 0:20:01.439 it was like this magical fucking just wake up and 0:20:01.480 --> 0:20:08.560 everything is you know, chipper. It was like slowly over time, 0:20:08.680 --> 0:20:12.040 like I started to gain a little more clarity and uh, 0:20:13.040 --> 0:20:14.720 you know it just it just kind of helped me 0:20:14.800 --> 0:20:17.120 find not even like a happiness, but it just helped 0:20:17.119 --> 0:20:19.800 me find like like the like the beauty and a 0:20:19.800 --> 0:20:21.200 lot of ship, you know what I mean. Like I'd 0:20:21.200 --> 0:20:23.359 go outside and like, damn, that's a that's a fucking 0:20:23.400 --> 0:20:27.000 beautiful flower, you know right. I would have never stopped before, 0:20:27.160 --> 0:20:28.639