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Speaker 2: Let's get our minds around what's about to happen. It

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Speaker 3: So no, it's believe me when I tell you people

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Speaker 3: three hours.

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Speaker 1: Before that, and we covered it for another three hours.

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Speaker 3: So you know, it's a collaboration really with the USCA

441
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Speaker 3: and making you know, conservati effort with the ESPN to

442
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Speaker 3: really showcase more.

443
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Speaker 1: Of tennis, and it was great. We got to have

444
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Speaker 1: access to the players.

445
00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,080
Speaker 3: We interviewed so many players the whole week and got

446
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Speaker 3: access to them on the practice court and off the

447
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Speaker 3: practice court.

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Speaker 1: It was really good.

449
00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,520
Speaker 3: And players are a little bit more relaxed because they're

450
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Speaker 3: in a practice week than not in a matches, so

451
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Speaker 3: that you know when they're doing.

452
00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:13,360
Speaker 1: When they're playing matches, they're being asked.

453
00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:16,080
Speaker 3: And prodded to do so much and their days are long,

454
00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:23,159
Speaker 3: so it was really really great for us. The on

455
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Speaker 3: care coaching was really interesting because you had players like

456
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Speaker 3: walking over and talking to their coaches and some weren't

457
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Speaker 3: even taking time outbreaks and sitting down.

458
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Speaker 1: And you know, would prefer to get coaching.

459
00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,320
Speaker 3: And then you know, we had the most dramatic match

460
00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:37,320
Speaker 3: I think I've ever seen in my whole life with

461
00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:39,560
Speaker 3: Sasha Vickory playing shini.

462
00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:42,880
Speaker 1: Kova went down to the Y seven six.

463
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Speaker 3: And third and an incredibly hot, hot, hot day, probably

464
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Speaker 3: the hottest day we've had in New York this year,

465
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Speaker 3: and that went for god knows how long.

466
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Speaker 1: But Susha Vickory through this match was just, honest to god, she.

467
00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:59,200
Speaker 3: Seriously needs to like reevaluate her career because I mean,

468
00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,320
Speaker 3: from two at two to one in the first out,

469
00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:04,600
Speaker 3: she is smashing rackets. It's two to one, wow, like

470
00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,040
Speaker 3: you know, and like banging rackets and she, you know,

471
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Speaker 3: eventually finally got a warning, and I mean she's losing

472
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Speaker 3: her fucking.

473
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Speaker 1: Mind on the court. I mean that's coming from me.

474
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Speaker 3: I mean I used to lose my shit sometimes on

475
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Speaker 3: the court, but I mean I was watching this going

476
00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,480
Speaker 3: do you cannot cannot act like that on the tennis

477
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Speaker 3: court from the first, second or third game once and

478
00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:26,600
Speaker 3: then and then to top it off, it's like five

479
00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,160
Speaker 3: all on the second set and she's at love fifteen,

480
00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:32,480
Speaker 3: so she's potentially you know, eight, no, not even seven

481
00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:34,520
Speaker 3: points away from winning the match. The girl has a

482
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Speaker 3: horrendous drop shot, she runs up, has a whole court,

483
00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:37,119
Speaker 3: she misses it.

484
00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:37,360
Speaker 1: Long.

485
00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,159
Speaker 3: Now, Okay, it's shit. You want to be love thirty

486
00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:41,760
Speaker 3: I get it, but it's fifteen all. It's not the

487
00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:43,520
Speaker 3: end of the world, Like, you still can win this

488
00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,119
Speaker 3: game and then hold and the matches over. And she

489
00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,960
Speaker 3: did not let go of missing that forehand for the

490
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Speaker 3: entire game, I mean yelling out loud.

491
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Speaker 1: Like how caid you miss that?

492
00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:56,480
Speaker 3: And then she was like, you know, she'd lose a

493
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Speaker 3: point to go thirty all and she'd be like, see.

494
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Speaker 1: You've given her opportunity, and it's just like, oh my god.

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Speaker 3: As a coach, I'd be like, I'm done, Like seriously,

496
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Speaker 3: if you can't let go of that point at five all,

497
00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,040
Speaker 3: and you're all you're doing and ps And by the way,

498
00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,960
Speaker 3: her opponent was losing her shit and you're just let

499
00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:12,879
Speaker 3: the door open again.

500
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Speaker 1: And then the tie break.

501
00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:15,800
Speaker 3: Started, and then it was six to four and the

502
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Speaker 3: third and in the tiebreak, and the girl played an

503
00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:21,639
Speaker 3: unbelievable point and she thought she'd hurt her leg, but

504
00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,560
Speaker 3: a lot of us think it was a cramp. Then

505
00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:27,360
Speaker 3: they called the physiou and the physiodem that could possibly

506
00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:30,680
Speaker 3: be a torn muscles, so they treated it, and Vickery's

507
00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:32,400
Speaker 3: losing her shit, yelling from the other.

508
00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,960
Speaker 1: End, it's a cramp. It's a cramp, I mean, but.

509
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Speaker 3: It was, like, honestly, Caitlin, when I tell you, there

510
00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:40,360
Speaker 3: was three or four players watching the match, text messaging

511
00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,280
Speaker 3: me saying, what the fuck is going on out there?

512
00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,520
Speaker 3: This is a drama like I've never seen in my

513
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Speaker 3: whole life.

514
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Speaker 1: And I'm telling you. Of course, the trainer came out

515
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Speaker 1: the treatment.

516
00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,560
Speaker 3: They played another really long point and the girl won

517
00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,199
Speaker 3: the point and Sasha vigor Is just beside herself go

518
00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:57,240
Speaker 3: six and loses eight six in the tie break. Now,

519
00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:01,879
Speaker 3: to summarize all that line, was it a bullshit move

520
00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:05,440
Speaker 3: from the player? Ninety percent of people will say yes,

521
00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,159
Speaker 3: maybe she did tear a muscle, like who knows, She

522
00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,040
Speaker 3: said she had torn it before and it felt the same.

523
00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:11,800
Speaker 3: You got to give her the benefit of the town.

524
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Speaker 3: But as a player down the other end, it shit happens,

525
00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:16,800
Speaker 3: and you got to play, and you still have match

526
00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:19,520
Speaker 3: point and she loses a point, but she didn't lose

527
00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,480
Speaker 3: the match there, Like Sasha, you lost the match at

528
00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:24,159
Speaker 3: two to one in the first one. You're throwing your

529
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,760
Speaker 3: racket like there's a reason you ranked one hundred and

530
00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:28,240
Speaker 3: something in the world. I mean going to be really

531
00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,600
Speaker 3: brutally honest. You cannot act like that.

532
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Speaker 1: And think that you're going to be a good tennis player.

533
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Speaker 2: Well, what's interesting to me is that, you know, obviously

534
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Speaker 2: it's the last round of qualifying, so everybody has their

535
00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,840
Speaker 2: set totally set on making the main draw. A huge

536
00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,640
Speaker 2: monetary boost that comes just from making a main draw. Yeah,

537
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,359
Speaker 2: fifty thousand dollars. I mean, it's not a joke, you know,

538
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,600
Speaker 2: that's some that makes up the bulk of what a

539
00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,280
Speaker 2: lot of players can take home in a year. Right. Yeah,

540
00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,760
Speaker 2: But it is interesting because we started this part of

541
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Speaker 2: the conversation about on court coaching. Where was her coach

542
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:57,200
Speaker 2: at six five?

543
00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:58,879
Speaker 3: She went over to the side and he was like

544
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Speaker 3: on top of her, tel your stuff, and she's crying

545
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,600
Speaker 3: her eyes out and like yelling and screaming. I'm like,

546
00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,160
Speaker 3: what you think this is going to help you? Yeah,

547
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 3: I mean you still p s by the way, You've

548
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:11,760
Speaker 3: still got match point, you know, like.

549
00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:13,160
Speaker 2: It's match point.

550
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:16,840
Speaker 3: You are at match point, Like okay, let it go

551
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,280
Speaker 3: sit there and get yourself regroup and say, Okay, she's

552
00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,440
Speaker 3: hurt herself or she's cramping, I'm going to win this match.

553
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:25,840
Speaker 2: Well on Twitter was all summer. Yeah it's been good,

554
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:27,200
Speaker 2: has it? Yeah it's good.

555
00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,760
Speaker 3: It's good for your say because listen, one of the

556
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:32,680
Speaker 3: things that Serena said at the US Open last year

557
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:34,840
Speaker 3: was how she felt men get away with more stuff. Okay,

558
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,359
Speaker 3: you could argue that for and against all Right, you know,

559
00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:39,480
Speaker 3: look some of the stuff that she did, you know,

560
00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,960
Speaker 3: she has to own and she has owned it to

561
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:43,880
Speaker 3: a certain degree.

562
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:45,640
Speaker 1: Some people think she hasn't like.

563
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:49,640
Speaker 3: You, but look, she lost her ship and she paid

564
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 3: the price in the end, she lost her ships, the

565
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,280
Speaker 3: match she lost, she find a lot of money and

566
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 3: she lost the match.

567
00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,400
Speaker 1: Okay, but she has a point. So I'm sitting in.

568
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:02,040
Speaker 3: Washington, DC this year, I'm caught at the tournament and

569
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 3: I'm sitting watching Nick No So, I'm sitting watching Stephanispas.

570
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,840
Speaker 3: Sispas breaks a racket right in front of me, literally

571
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,639
Speaker 3: and goes to the chair and changes his racket out. Okay,

572
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 3: crickets from the umpire crickets, no warning, walks back starts

573
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,920
Speaker 3: another point, no fucking warning.

574
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,119
Speaker 1: I'm like sitting there going, what is going on with

575
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 1: my life here?

576
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 2: Yeah?

577
00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:24,679
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, So that's one.

578
00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 3: And then he's playing Nick Kurios in the semi finals.

579
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,680
Speaker 3: He takes a ball and I mean rifles it like

580
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Speaker 3: like a dart into the stands, into the stands.

581
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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm like, oh my god, I'm thinking this

582
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:39,119
Speaker 1: better get out of the stands or this is this

583
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,639
Speaker 1: could hit somebody. Okay, some guy catches it in the crowd,

584
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 1: catches it with his hand, thank god. Yeah, crickets, crickets

585
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 1: from the umpire.

586
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 3: I look at the ATP supervisor literally that I'm sitting next,

587
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:53,920
Speaker 3: and I go, he's going to tell me he's getting

588
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 3: a warning for this. He'll get a warning. He'll get

589
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:59,639
Speaker 3: it warning crickets, no warning. And you know what the

590
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,680
Speaker 3: umpire excuse was, the guy caught the ball.

591
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:03,439
Speaker 2: I'm like, you.

592
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,400
Speaker 3: Fucking kidding in So Serena can take a ball and

593
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 3: sling it like that into the crowd. Somebody catches that,

594
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 3: you're gonna be like, oh, Ramas is gonna be like, eh,

595
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 3: guy caught the ball.

596
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:14,800
Speaker 1: So that was to another in.

597
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,440
Speaker 3: The same match, Nick Curious is turning around the side,

598
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 3: mouth's off something about something and says the word.

599
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:24,200
Speaker 1: Fucking in the middle of the sentence. Right, Okay, yeah,

600
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,720
Speaker 1: no big deal. He's looking away from the umpire. Guess what.

601
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,159
Speaker 3: Linesman, who heard it and there's kids mine goes up

602
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,160
Speaker 3: to the umpire a la Serena Williams right with the line,

603
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 3: umpire and it goes and knocks on him. Guess what

604
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:37,400
Speaker 3: you know, as a player, as soon as you see

605
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:38,639
Speaker 3: that line's walking up, you're.

606
00:24:38,520 --> 00:24:40,719
Speaker 2: Like, fuck, I'm screwed.

607
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,919
Speaker 3: Right, So he goes up, obviously tells the umpire the

608
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 3: nick said swore and the umpire looks any nods. Linesman

609
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 3: goes back crickets no warning, really, same umpire. So I'm

610
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 3: thinking to myself, I have just seen in my week

611
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 3: of sitting on court three latent, blatant code violations, not

612
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 3: a warning, so my help and I am sitting there

613
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:10,120
Speaker 3: and I am fuming. It's bullshit. It's like if you're

614
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 3: going to have a blanket statement on if you break

615
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 3: a racket, that's automatic. If you hit a ball into

616
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 3: the stands like it, it's an automatic warning. How is

617
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 3: a code violation not given for those I don't understand it?

618
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,360
Speaker 3: So you know, when you have these players like Serena going,

619
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 3: I've seen worse, you know. Look Roger Federer, yeah, great guy, right,

620
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 3: well behaved on ninety nine point nine percent of vacation.

621
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:32,879
Speaker 3: But he's but he sat there at the US Open

622
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,879
Speaker 3: and lot's at an umpire and said, don't fucking something,

623
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Speaker 3: rather don't fucking something or other, don't fucking something like

624
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:40,200
Speaker 3: two or three.

625
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 1: Times said the word fucking to the umpire. Everybody heard it.

626
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 1: In my view, not a far, not a warning. Serena

627
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 1: says you're a thief. You stole a.

628
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,960
Speaker 3: Point from me warning the game penalty in the final

629
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 3: of the US Open. So I'm just saying, I know

630
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,080
Speaker 3: how you feel about this, Serena, but think about that.

631
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Speaker 2: For a second. Absolutely, And to be clear, the way

632
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 2: about in it is that she the why what she

633
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 2: said in by the letter of the law was worse

634
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:09,640
Speaker 2: was because there's literally a line that says you cannot

635
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 2: question the integrity of.

636
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 1: An umpire totally.

637
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 2: So that is why Tondan cursing Stephen to that. Now

638
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 2: that nature of Minahiliusa is not even if you drop

639
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,919
Speaker 2: the f bomb that said, no, I, the point is

640
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:25,639
Speaker 2: widely now known, which is that this is totally totally was.

641
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:29,880
Speaker 3: Yelling out in his match in Cincinnati, which we all

642
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 3: know how much he got fined, but he was thirteen

643
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 3: thousand he was yelling out, this is literally the worst

644
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 3: umpire in the game.

645
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 1: He's the worst umpire in the game.

646
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 3: He shouldn't be something or something you're you're you're saying

647
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 3: that he is, you know whatever you're saying that's that's

648
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:44,160
Speaker 3: the same thing.

649
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 2: But no warning.

650
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:48,159
Speaker 1: So it's like, look, guys, if you're going to have

651
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 1: if you're going to do this, do it, do it.

652
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 1: Do it or don't do it?

653
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, one of the two. Like, let's get on the

654
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:54,679
Speaker 2: same page here.

655
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 3: And you know, Rama said, everyone say, you know he

656
00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 3: did it by the letter of the law, blah blah blah.

657
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, but let's know the circumstance as well. Yeah,

658
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:02,920
Speaker 3: and at that point, at a set and four to

659
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 3: three in the women's final, it's probably time to bite

660
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 3: your tongue.

661
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, the Cincinnati thing with Nick is interesting

662
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 2: because you know, he won the tournament Washington, he committed

663
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 2: at least one offence that you saw that should have.

664
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: Been yeah, tasted too, and didn't get caught.

665
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 2: We so Tinsupast was breaking his shoes left ront and

666
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 2: going to the stands getting people to relay it.

667
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 1: Crazy.

668
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 2: He's kind of fiasco. Yeah, what do you think about

669
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 2: Nicks getting busted, I mean, do you think that that, yeah,

670
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 2: it was a lot. One hundred and thirteen thousand dollars

671
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 2: is a lot. I mean he was Is that the

672
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 2: first time he's gone completely apshare it was a lot? Yeah,

673
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 2: it was a lot. I think now he'll realize that

674
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 2: maybe when he goes off.

675
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 3: The court to break a racket, he has to do

676
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 3: it in the locker room and not in a place

677
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 3: that has cameras listen as well.

678
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, I think if we're going to issue rules,

679
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,159
Speaker 2: which I think we should, which is nothing in the

680
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 2: game that can be sort of put in the letter

681
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 2: of last should be And also like nothing, it doesn't

682
00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 2: have to be this arbitrary. Right lines are not arbitrary.

683
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 2: The rules should not be arbitrary. This is equal application

684
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 2: of the law based on a mutual understanding of what's

685
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 2: going on there. But also I have to say, like,

686
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 2: and this is concerns juniors in the way that I

687
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:15,040
Speaker 2: think players comport themselves, which is I can't think of

688
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 2: an instance in where turning the match into a total

689
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 2: fiasco is good. Maybe it helps you with a modicum

690
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 2: of intensity and help, but like you're getting free rackets

691
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 2: from sponsors. If I were a racket sponsor and someone

692
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 2: broke my rackets, I'd be peace, I'd be out.

693
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 3: Well, Yonyx did remember they implemented that you like you're

694
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 3: not going to get certain amount of christ Coco was

695
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 3: doing a lot at Vandaway and she was on.

696
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 1: Like basically unnoticed.

697
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean some some companies have actually pulled

698
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 3: the pulled the plug on that. But anyway, well enough

699
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,040
Speaker 3: about Nick because we're gonna see how he responds here

700
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 3: at the USOVEN because he's gonna have to win a

701
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 3: couple of matches to get the money back.

702
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 2: But as always I am rooting for him.

703
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean me too. I love Nick. Listen, look listen,

704
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 3: I'm rotten for Hissen. And you know what the bottom

705
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 3: line is with for Stepan A season. Nick tried his

706
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 3: ass off in Washington and he tried to control his

707
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 3: and crazy happened and it was hard for him and

708
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 3: he managed to do it and he's trying.

709
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 2: It's just he just completely.

710
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 3: Lost his mind. He lost his mind in Cincinnati and

711
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 3: the thing was that he was up a set in

712
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 3: six five.

713
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 1: He just let it go, man, just let it go.

714
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 1: Just with you know, some people.

715
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 2: I get it, but my biggest, biggest.

716
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 1: Thing was I might lose it. But my whole goal

717
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 1: was I wanted to win so badly?

718
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 2: Was Nick?

719
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 3: You know that if he can get to the point

720
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 3: where he wants to win so badly as opposed to

721
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 3: wanting to be right in an argument, because God knows

722
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 3: I like to be right in an argument, that's where

723
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 3: he just just don't. You don't have to be right

724
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 3: in an argument all the time on court. Do it

725
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 3: off court, like go and make your point off court,

726
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 3: which is his point was about the starting of the

727
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 3: clock before you serve. Anyway, So yeah, Nick got screwed there.

728
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 3: Nick got what he deserved, and he'll admit to that,

729
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 3: there's no question about that. Speaking of the men, let's

730
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 3: hope Nick goes deep in the tournament because we know

731
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 3: how funny is to watch, but you just feel like

732
00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 3: it's just sporing at this point.

733
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 2: The minister, I mean, look, if the men's tour is incredible,

734
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 2: the men's tour in Grand slams where the only narrative

735
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 2: that we have either seen or people can talk about

736
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 2: the biggest story is where is Roger going to be

737
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 2: up the top of down the bottom? Right, that's it,

738
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 2: snooze fest. I'm ready for somebody else. I don't care

739
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 2: who it is. I don't care if it's you know,

740
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 2: Sam Querry. I don't care. If it's Danny Medvedev.

741
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 1: I don't care if it's I love Dany Medvedev.

742
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 2: I don't care if it's Sunger who's come back from

743
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 2: not going to be sowhere, probably not gonna be.

744
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 1: But Medvedev can play this guy.

745
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 3: It's just can these guys, these younger players do it

746
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 3: over best of five? I mean, Dominic team has done

747
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 3: it number of times. You just can't seem to do

748
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 3: it back to back.

749
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: Right, He's beaten Djokovic in big matches.

750
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 2: He can be one of them. He's beaten.

751
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can beat one of them.

752
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 3: It's beating them twice or a Roger and Rapha or

753
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 3: Novak and.

754
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 2: So we'll see. I mean, I liked team.

755
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 3: I think he'll be the first one to break through,

756
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 3: just because he's knocking on the door so many times. Yeah,

757
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 3: I think Danil Medvedev loves he loves this, He loves

758
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 3: to play. He's such a fun guy. He like he

759
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 3: actually enjoys the spotlight. He enjoys the fun of it.

760
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 3: He enjoys the the you know, they get down and dirty.

761
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 1: He doesn't get too carried away. He's kind of got this.

762
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 3: Like flair about him, and he's a nice guy. So yeah,

763
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 3: I'm totally rooting for him to sort of break through

764
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 3: and maybe we can see what he can do.

765
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 1: Best of five, best of three is a whole different.

766
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 2: Stories of the three. That's why I like nice.

767
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: If we have best of three in men's tennis.

768
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 2: It would be great because best of three tennis is

769
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 2: great and interesting men and women.

770
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: We won't see some different players.

771
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,719
Speaker 2: So let me ask you a question, because you know

772
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 2: we have talked. We have talked, I've talked, You've talked

773
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:42,479
Speaker 2: at nauseum about generation. Uh, you know, middle of the road. Right,

774
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 2: So this is everybody who's younger than the big three,

775
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 2: but not the super super young guys. I'm done talking

776
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 2: about them.

777
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: The song is the millennials. We want the millennials.

778
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 2: Greg order me Traves like those guys are done. Like,

779
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 2: no offense to those guys. It's just there. It seems unlikely,

780
00:31:56,080 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 2: but this team is very pass Felix like, these guys

781
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 2: are these guys are real. How do you say, Alicia.

782
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 1: Is that how you say? Is that how you're supposed

783
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: to say?

784
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 2: I don't know.

785
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 3: I think it's alias Sam Felix.

786
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 1: I did say it in front of him and he goes,

787
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: oh good, So I'm okay.

788
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:19,479
Speaker 2: Fan.

789
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: Speaking of Felix, I love him.

790
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 2: He Can I just tell you he's my absolute favorite.

791
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 2: Can I just tell you if I wasn't a lesbian,

792
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 2: what this is going to creep? He's eighteen.

793
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 3: No, I know, I'm not saying I would go after him,

794
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 3: but he would. That that guy, he's kid is He

795
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 3: is such a sweetheart. He looks you in the eye

796
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 3: when he tells you compelling on the quest. Oh my god,

797
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 3: he's getting. The only problem with Felix that I feel

798
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 3: is going to stop him is the serf. I don't

799
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 3: know what's going on with the serf, but he has

800
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 3: this little bit of a yippie thing with the bolt

801
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 3: toss and.

802
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 2: Well he's got a big cack, right, He's.

803
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: Got a great serve when he gets the rhythm.

804
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:58,480
Speaker 2: He's got to.

805
00:32:58,400 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: Find his rhythm.

806
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 3: I don't know what's going on with it, but it's

807
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 3: eighteen or nineteen. You cannot have the yips already. Man,

808
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 3: You get that when you're twenty eight and roared thirty five.

809
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 1: And you're like, fuck, is this the last year of

810
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: my life now?

811
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 3: So that's a bit of a concern for me. I

812
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 3: don't know if it's it's mental or what's.

813
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 1: Going on, but that he needs to fix that. And

814
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 1: I don't know how you fix that.

815
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 3: Because we all remember Anna Ivanovich who with the Baltas

816
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 3: or you know, Demon Tieva, and we've seen him, right, you.

817
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 2: Get into a tragic serv in particular, it's just so at,

818
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 2: so big in men's tennis.

819
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 1: I mean, so let's hope he gets out under under

820
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 1: control becerus.

821
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 3: If he does, oh my god him and he's so

822
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 3: nice and he's the respect anyway, he's exactly having Felix

823
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 3: love Fast.

824
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 1: I love him.

825
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 2: That's great. I mean, no argument here, good, good good.

826
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 2: While we're talking about young Canadians, Bibe Biebe Andrew ask you, yeah,

827
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 2: what a crazy story. I mean, look, I did not

828
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 2: think it was a fluke when she went to Indian

829
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 2: Wells and tore everybody up, only because you kind of

830
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 2: watch her for a couple of years and you thought, oh,

831
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 2: what an interesting she's got the straightforest alpha.

832
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,120
Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you what she does really in a

833
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: really smart way.

834
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 2: She's a thinker.

835
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: She is very smart on the court. She is not

836
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: thinking I'm.

837
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 2: Going to overpower.

838
00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: I'm going to overpower.

839
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 2: I'm going to overpower.

840
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 3: She goes, no, you know what, I'm going to use

841
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 3: my really good forehand, which is heavy with spin, which

842
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,879
Speaker 3: she don't see often on the women's tour. You get

843
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 3: a lot of balls that are hit pretty flat, you

844
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 3: know when you think about the top players, Serena pallap Plishkova,

845
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 3: I mean Barty has. Barty has variety, which is why

846
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,320
Speaker 3: she does so well as well, with not huge weapons

847
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 3: but really solid BB's the same. She has this heavy forehand,

848
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 3: she has a pretty flatish backhand, but then she throws

849
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 3: these crazy drop shots and foehand slices, and that's.

850
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 1: A Romanian coming out in her right.

851
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 3: That's sort of like nutty Romanian style of tennis, like

852
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 3: a little Nicolescus.

853
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 2: But she also does what she does not She will

854
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 2: not allow anyone to call moon balls, but we would

855
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 2: call them bols back in my day. She calls it

856
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 2: an offensive top spin bob, which it is, but it's

857
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 2: a different kind. It's a change up, yeah, exactly.

858
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:08,959
Speaker 1: She has a change oft.

859
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 2: And all of a sudden she's getting you out of

860
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,800
Speaker 2: your head zone. Yeah, it's genius. She's smart.

861
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,399
Speaker 3: She just recognizes, Look, I could go toe to toe,

862
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 3: but I'm probably not gonna win that way all the time.

863
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna throw in a few of this and

864
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,600
Speaker 3: a little bit of that, and little pepper, a little cayenne,

865
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 3: And then all of a sudden she throws in her

866
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 3: drop shot, and then.

867
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 2: She's got hands and she can react well the net.

868
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: She's quick, she's quite quick, and so she's smart and

869
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:29,760
Speaker 1: she's patient. And what a fucking great story.

870
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 3: I mean, she wins Indian Wells and she bloody goes

871
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 3: off with the shoulder and this and that injury and

872
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 3: this injury, and then comes back and wins bloody the

873
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 3: tournament in Canada, which other than the Grand Slam, is

874
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 3: the biggest.

875
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 2: Win of is going to be the crowd. I mean,

876
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,919
Speaker 2: it's a manator. It's crazy, it's great nice. Well, she's fun.

877
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 2: She's got to find out. I feelix. They both are

878
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 2: like very sort of optimistic Smiley, you know.

879
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 3: Well, she's a little bit of drum queen on the court,

880
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 3: and I love her, but it's like she said where.

881
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 2: She gets it from.

882
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, have you seen her mom?

883
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 2: And she's a Romanian. Have you seen her mom in

884
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 2: the crowd? Her mom has like a lone parasol of

885
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 2: one with that is on twenty four seven minute, that's

886
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 2: the remaining coming. She's a little nutty, you know.

887
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,720
Speaker 1: But but then she's a little dramatic.

888
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 2: But you know what, good for her.

889
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: I mean, she's young, and so the way she's handled

890
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: this pressure is pretty bloody great. And she's not lost

891
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 1: a match against a top ten player.

892
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,640
Speaker 2: That's nuts. Ever, I don't think that's a statu I

893
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 2: don't think that's ever happened. Exist, There's no way that's

894
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:21,959
Speaker 2: ever happened. That's nuts.

895
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 3: There's no way anyway. So she's a really exciting young

896
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 3: talent as well. She's really look she can really possibly.

897
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 2: Do some damage. You know what. I think she has bde.

898
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: Big dick energy.

899
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 2: Did it?

900
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 1: Wow?

901
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 2: Wow?

902
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: That's amazing?

903
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:39,760
Speaker 2: Did it?

904
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:40,800
Speaker 1: Big dick energy?

905
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 2: All right?

906
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 3: Well, as a woman, good for her?

907
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 1: What else do we do we want to touch upon?

908
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:51,240
Speaker 3: Just a little sad story was Anissimova's dad passed away

909
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 3: just before the US Open, so she had to pull

910
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 3: out a tournament. Really great up and coming young American.

911
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 3: So you know, we wish her all the best in

912
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 3: her family and you know, tennis is will be here

913
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 3: for a really long time, but obviously obviously come back.

914
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 3: Obviously that's a really sad yeah, and her dad was

915
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 3: her coach, so you know, we hope that she can

916
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 3: sort of have the time away and realize that, look,

917
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,240
Speaker 3: there's gonna be a lot more US Opens, but you know, sadly,

918
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 3: she only has one dad, So that was a really

919
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:17,919
Speaker 3: sad story coming to the US Open.

920
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 1: So we wish her all the best. You know, when

921
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 1: you think about that a little bit, we had a Noah.

922
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 3: Ruben was talking recently on his podcast about sort of

923
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 3: the tough side of tennis, and he brought up the

924
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:32,000
Speaker 3: fact that there was a lot of alcohol abuse and maybe,

925
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 3: you know, various different things going on. Look, there's no

926
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 3: doubt that there were players that go into massive depressions

927
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 3: when they're playing. You know, I tend to disagree with

928
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 3: him on the alcoholic abuse situation. I mean, you can't

929
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 3: be a professional athlete and get on the sauce like

930
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:48,399
Speaker 3: every time you lose.

931
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 2: I mean, that's just you might.

932
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 3: You might can't jack sack you can't well listen, there

933
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 3: are some that do. Yeah. Sure, if you're in the

934
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 3: top ten, it's not happening. Yeah, I can tell you

935
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,719
Speaker 3: that for a fact. There's no top no way.

936
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:02,720
Speaker 2: But just interrupt you. I mean, I think behind the racket,

937
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 2: which is no Rubin who is an American ranked what

938
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 2: was he about twenty twenty in the world something like that.

939
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 2: He kind of fluctuates between like eighty and a hundred

940
00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 2: and fifty. You know, he has this digital platform behind

941
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 2: the racket where he talks about sort of the down

942
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 2: the hidden sides sort of you know, a lot of

943
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 2: it focuses on mental health, health and you know, unhealthy

944
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,359
Speaker 2: and unhealth in this case, but talking a lot about

945
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 2: basically what a grind it is for a lot of players,

946
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 2: especially outside the top ten. And so yeah, you can't

947
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 2: be top ten and be hitting the sauce. But I

948
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 2: think more his point is a lot of other people

949
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 2: who are sort of down towards you know, where he

950
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 2: is in the rankings, are are coping.

951
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, because they're dealing with the way or not because

952
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,839
Speaker 3: they're dealing with like this is should I be doing

953
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 3: this anymore? I'm not making any money and this and

954
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 3: that and maybe they should stop drinking.

955
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: That would help them. The Actually I thought you.

956
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 2: Might make that comment.

957
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, just say, okay, you know now that I'm a

958
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 3: casual drinker on a casual of daily occasions.

959
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 2: We can't do it.

960
00:38:58,280 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: It's too hard.

961
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 3: So I think the more the thing I want to

962
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 3: stress more is less about the alcohol abuse and all

963
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 3: that sort of stuff. I think it's more about the

964
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 3: depressional the depression side of tennis, because how a is

965
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 3: a cobon mechanism for something that's so you are going

966
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 3: to have some people that are dealing with it. But

967
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 3: I think overall, it's more about how difficult the life is.

968
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 3: And every week you lose. I mean, you're a loser

969
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 3: every week.

970
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: That's how you feel. Even though you win a match,

971
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 1: you have that high. I mean I've always said that.

972
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 2: Only one person whin's a tournament. I mean, just the

973
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 2: truth of it is, fifty percent of people lose on

974
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 2: the first day. It's just something you have to it's

975
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 2: part deal with every single time you go out there.

976
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: It's it's it's legal addiction. Yeah, is what I call

977
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 1: being a professional athlete.

978
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 2: Interesting.

979
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 1: You know, it's legal addiction, and you.

980
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 3: You have that high, and then you have that really

981
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 3: quick low and it's just brutal and the low loss

982
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 3: days and you just depressed, depress, you don't want to

983
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 3: leave your room. You think you suck, You're never going

984
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 3: to be good enough. I mean, it all goes on

985
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 3: in your head and then you just got to pick

986
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 3: yourself back up and get on with it.

987
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 1: It's kind of like getting broken up with every week.

988
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 3: You just got to get on with it and find

989
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 3: a way to find that passion again to get up

990
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:02,000
Speaker 3: on the practice court. So yeah, that's you'll be seeing

991
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 3: a lot of players dealing with, particularly at the end

992
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 3: of the year, this last Grand Slam and means a

993
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 3: lot to these players. So overall, look, we're going into

994
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 3: the US Open with some great storylines once again with

995
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 3: the women's tour. Who's going to win flipp A coin?

996
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 3: Will Madison Keys breakthrough and win a Grand Slam? Will

997
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 3: Carolina Plishkoba breakthrough and win a Grand Slam?

998
00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 2: I mean, these are the sort of the questions.

999
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 3: Will Bibi undrescue you have the year of her life?

1000
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 3: Ken Ashbardy win two slams?

1001
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 2: What about my girl? Saber Linka?

1002
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 3: Maybe Saba Linka is an interesting situation, because she really

1003
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 3: looked like she was going to be the Naomi Saki

1004
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 3: last year and break through and win a Slam because

1005
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 3: she was playing so well, and then all of a sudden,

1006
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 3: she's had a bit of a rough year. She's played

1007
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 3: a little better over the last couple of weeks, but

1008
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 3: Jesus Christ, she has a tough first round. She plays

1009
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 3: Azarenka in the first round, and poor old Vika can't

1010
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 3: catch a break with the drawers. So one of them

1011
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 3: is going to break through, and maybe whoever wins that

1012
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 3: match can get through to a quarter final.

1013
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 2: There are some insane first round matchups. Obviously, we talked

1014
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 2: about Maria Srina, which I don't think will be, to

1015
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 2: your point, a very competitive tennis match, but certainly doesn't

1016
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 2: lack hell. It's compelling. You got, as you just noted,

1017
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,280
Speaker 2: the two Beller Russians against each other. You got Coco Vandua,

1018
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 2: who we always like to see well because I love

1019
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,240
Speaker 2: her game. I'll quarter, but she's struggling.

1020
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: She plays Cannon first round.

1021
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 2: She plays Kennon first round, which is really tough for

1022
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 2: young American who went deep in a couple of great

1023
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,800
Speaker 2: talk about a great competitor, just firecracker and then another

1024
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 2: match I love because I'm a nerd is angelaue Kerber

1025
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 2: Christina Moladanavs. Yeah, that's going to be going.

1026
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 1: Because Anti struggles sometimes in the first round.

1027
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 3: She gets a little bit nervous and she doubts herself

1028
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 3: a little bit, and she doesn't have those big weapons,

1029
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 3: so sometimes she has a bit of a tight day

1030
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 3: that Meladanovitch can take advantage of that.

1031
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, Meladanavitch is like an emotional player. She's got a

1032
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:39,440
Speaker 2: lot of tools.

1033
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 3: She's she hasn't had a great couple of weeks, so

1034
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 3: lady into the us of for either.

1035
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: So it's kind of a battle of who can.

1036
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 3: Muster the confidence to break it down say a lot oft.

1037
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 2: I mean, we've talked a lot about recognizable names, but

1038
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 2: for me truly and this is something I love so

1039
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 2: much about having a Slam in our backyard, which is

1040
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 2: just I cannot get over how fun like the first

1041
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 2: five days are. For me, nothing is are fun than

1042
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 2: the beginning a couple of days of a tournament, and especially

1043
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 2: the beginning couple days of a Slam, because you just

1044
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,239
Speaker 2: turn around and then there's some other insane match going on,

1045
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:09,879
Speaker 2: or it's to your right, or oh my god, there's

1046
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 2: a crazy barn Burner third set going on on court seventeen.

1047
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 2: Let's all get out there. And what's so great is that,

1048
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 2: you know, if you do have a chance to go

1049
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 2: to the tournament, don't go to ASH, go to the grounds.

1050
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 3: Oh just definitely don't go to ASH in the first

1051
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 3: like two or three days because they usually blowout. So

1052
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 3: you got the top seats playing against people that have

1053
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 3: don't even know how to walk on to ASH, don't

1054
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 3: even know where Arthur ash Stadium minutes half the time.

1055
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 3: So yeah, the best matches are you know, often the

1056
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:37,720
Speaker 3: best match is like grandstand, Yeah, or maybe Louis Armstrong

1057
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 3: now totals and Louis Armstrong is like a not a

1058
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 3: reserve seat a lot of times, so you can get

1059
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 3: great that's a great I would just sit there the

1060
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,280
Speaker 3: whole time, Yeah, because you often get.

1061
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 2: Really good matchups there.

1062
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 3: Grandstand, of course is always notoriously the grandstand tends to

1063
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 3: be so for you out there, they're going to the

1064
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 3: open grandstands. Usually the matchups that really like like an

1065
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 3: Azaranka Savalanca, a Felix as Ali se is playing.

1066
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 2: Like a fan feverite. Yeah, the Pa. It's the match

1067
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 2: that everyone does, everyone knows is going to go the distance,

1068
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:13,399
Speaker 2: whether or not the rankings are exactly blockbuster, but it's

1069
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 2: one that real tennis fans know.

1070
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,320
Speaker 3: Okay, we're going to get to it'll be Coco Vandaway

1071
00:43:17,360 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 3: Kennon match, those sort of matchups that it's usually where

1072
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,399
Speaker 3: you'll put a put players on grand Stone.

1073
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 1: So that's a fun insider tip.

1074
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're we're looking forward to it. Kate Win, we

1075
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 2: can't wait.

1076
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 3: I'm going to be very busy in between my ESPN duties,

1077
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 3: which you know how much I love working for them,

1078
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 3: and I just I feel really lucky and blessed that

1079
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 3: I get to do that job for a living. But

1080
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,720
Speaker 3: I also now am a little responsible for my buddy

1081
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 3: Sam Stozio. So let's get behind her and we'll see

1082
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 3: what happens. And in the meantime, let's hope one thing

1083
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,319
Speaker 3: we won't be seeing is mister Ramoss in a chair

1084
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,919
Speaker 3: with Serena Williams playing a match that has been designated.

1085
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 2: A no goes out exactly, thank god.

1086
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 3: And and just a tip I everybody, players are allowed

1087
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 3: to ask to not have certain umpires in the chair.

1088
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 3: It doesn't happen very often. Another twitter or I had

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Speaker 3: over the last couple weeks I had I played twenty

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Speaker 3: two years on the professional tour, and I asked for

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Speaker 3: three umpires and not be in my chair over that time,

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Speaker 3: and they were not putting my chair after that, and

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Speaker 3: one was the last one was an umpire told me

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Speaker 3: shit happens on the court and I didn't take too

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Speaker 3: kindly to that, so I requested that umpire never.

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Speaker 1: To be in my chair again.

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Speaker 3: And often it is because some umpires are a little

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Speaker 3: bit compatitive combative as well, and I kind of had

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Speaker 3: that combative personality.

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Speaker 1: I didn't need someone on the court being combatitive with me.

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Speaker 1: Who was the umpire who needed to be calming me down?

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Speaker 2: So that's sort of what happened there.

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Speaker 3: I had a German guy in the chair one time

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Speaker 3: who was just I felt was just a dick and

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Speaker 3: I just didn't want him in the chair and I

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Speaker 3: had problems with him on the court.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, so it happened.

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Speaker 3: So you know the fact that Serena may have asked

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Speaker 3: for that then or not, I don't think she asked

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Speaker 3: for it, to be perfectly honest with you. Umpires can

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Speaker 3: also ask to not be in Well.

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Speaker 2: If I were Sam, I wouldn't I wouldn't blame them.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna be on your soap and radio doing the

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Speaker 2: podcast almost every day. And you can buy the latest

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Speaker 2: issue of Racket magazine in the bookstore of the grand Stand.

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Speaker 2: So if you want to get your hands on it,

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Speaker 2: find miss Mary Carilla, who contributed to our piece about

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Speaker 2: Buddhist serial elitist.

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Speaker 3: Yeah via jeriltis twenty fifth year this year of his death,

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Speaker 3: one of the true characters and gentlemen and great guys

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Speaker 3: of this sport sadly died in a tragic incident where

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Speaker 3: he was basically killed with carpet monoxide poisoning. So, yeah,

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Speaker 3: go on grab the magazine. It's tits, as we say,

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Speaker 3: it's it's amazing.

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Speaker 2: There's some actual tits in it. We got the really

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Speaker 2: drag queens of holding court.

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Speaker 1: To those tits or those fake tears.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. They're going to be on the ground.

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Speaker 2: So if you see a very tall arena katrinka drag

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Speaker 2: queens walking around, go get them to autograph your issue.

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Speaker 2: Nick Mcarwell wrote a great piece about that. We've got

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Speaker 2: to throw it back to Monica Sellis and Jennifer Capriati.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's a good time and it's just in

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Speaker 2: time for the US Open. It's a beautiful mag Go

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Speaker 2: grab one. Listen out for Renee. I'll be there.

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Speaker 1: Come come say hi, Come say hi.

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Speaker 3: The ESPN desk out on the Fountain Plaza every single

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Speaker 3: day out there, so come say hi and bring you

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Speaker 3: racket gear and we'll sign it, maybe the magazine, sign

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Speaker 3: the magazine.

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Speaker 2: All right, Uh, let's do another one in the of

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Speaker 2: the week.

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Speaker 1: See in the middle of the week and they'll see

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Speaker 1: what players I can grab. And yeah, thanks for listening.

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Speaker 2: Everybody, keep questions coming.

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Speaker 1: We love you.

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Speaker 2: Bye, and that's it for this episode of the Racket

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Speaker 2: Magazine Podcast. Thanks for listening. Our host is Renee Stubbs.

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Speaker 2: Our co host and producer is me Caitlin Thompson. Music

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Speaker 2: by internationally renowned DJ Stretch Armstrong. Thanks to Tim or

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Speaker 2: Jerry and then the team at acast. Find us at

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Speaker 2: racketmag dot com, slash podcast and subscribe to us at

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