Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
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Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola. Go Dallas Howboys, HU stand. For the
Speaker 1: first time since the Cowboys one of Super Bowl, they
Speaker 1: have put together back to back twelve wins seasons. Welcome
Speaker 1: to a Friday edition of mix Shots inside the s
Speaker 1: WBC podcast studio. Bill Jones, Everson Walls, and Mickey Spagnola,
Speaker 1: as we turned returned to the days of Super Bowl
Speaker 1: winning teams with back to back twelve win seasons. Mickey,
Speaker 1: how's that spinning it? Positive? Twelve and fourth seasons? At
Speaker 1: twelve and four? That's right, even though there's another game,
Speaker 1: another one can go for thirteen here next week against Washington.
Speaker 1: And you guys need to be good because I met
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of Cowboy fans yesterday that listen to
Speaker 1: mix Shots, realers, So don't let them die. And you
Speaker 1: got in win. I think I by time I got home,
Speaker 1: it was we landed right or a little bit after
Speaker 1: it mean to stump you at this question. I ain't
Speaker 1: got a lot of sleep there, probably got home at
Speaker 1: three o'clock. All right, so you're rested, rested and ready
Speaker 1: got my four hours sleep? There you go, all right?
Speaker 1: And here we are in need. Here we are as
Speaker 1: we wrap up what happened on Thursday night and look
Speaker 1: ahead to a New Year's weekend. Just one more game
Speaker 1: now left in this season? And where is this Cowboys
Speaker 1: team now as we sit here twelve and four at
Speaker 1: the new year. Well, they are guaranteed the fifth seed
Speaker 1: and the NFC playoff, nothing less than that. I think
Speaker 1: they're probably guaranteed unless something really weird happens. They're playing
Speaker 1: the division champ of the NFC South, Tampa Bay or Carolina,
Speaker 1: and that should be decided or New Orleans or New Orleans.
Speaker 1: That's a long shot. And Tampa Bay and Carolina play
Speaker 1: this Sunday, so we'll see how that New Orleans plays
Speaker 1: Philadelphia and Cowboys fans want a Saints win in Philly.
Speaker 1: So the Cowboys by by winning, that's yeah. The Cowboys
Speaker 1: by winning at least put the pressure on the Eagles
Speaker 1: that they have to win one more game. We don't
Speaker 1: want to make it too easy for him. Yeah, them
Speaker 1: coasting out. They thought they had a Quak's thirteen and
Speaker 1: one until the Cowboys showed up right right, uh and so,
Speaker 1: and now they got to make a decision when they
Speaker 1: put Jalen Hurts back on the field practicing. He is practicing.
Speaker 1: According to the head coach. If you believe the head coach,
Speaker 1: he looked good in practice yesterday, after the okie doke
Speaker 1: that his legs look good in practice. Yeah, after the
Speaker 1: okie doke that Tennessee pulled, pulling the starting quarterback the
Speaker 1: day of the game and saying, Okay, we're gonna go
Speaker 1: with this guy that just showed up nine days ago. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he played much better than the guy I think,
Speaker 1: and I think he won the backup job. He's gonna play.
Speaker 1: He's gonna play in their Week eighteen playoff game against Jacksonville.
Speaker 1: That right way, he'll start that game. Man. That's that's crazy.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be good. It's gonna be fun for them.
Speaker 1: I had fun last night watching the game. I really did.
Speaker 1: I had circled this game on the schedule as a
Speaker 1: problem game. I did too, until they lost five straight
Speaker 1: right right right? That this is a team. If I
Speaker 1: if you guys would call the three teams that I
Speaker 1: always bring up when I talk about in tests before,
Speaker 1: the two Pittsburgh Steelers, the Ravens, and the Titans. You know,
Speaker 1: they have that that persona well, they just they don't
Speaker 1: have that now. The just don't have that. And the
Speaker 1: Ravens themselves are having problems as well. The Cowboys. Uh,
Speaker 1: it seems to be the most resilient team in the
Speaker 1: NFL right now, and like you said, a lot of
Speaker 1: it because of their own making, you know, being resilient
Speaker 1: enough to come back from your own mistakes that you
Speaker 1: cause for no reason. That Nate just talking to about
Speaker 1: the interceptions it happenstance interception versus your own and we're
Speaker 1: having too many of our own on top of those
Speaker 1: happenstance interceptions. And I know it's a drop pass, but
Speaker 1: it was a drop pass and then tipped on top
Speaker 1: of it. Wait, I can keep missed it three times? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, but you know, and and the throw went
Speaker 1: to coverage. What was his excuse for that? None? Bad decision?
Speaker 1: Just bad you know. He gets on the role. And
Speaker 1: even with what you see coming from that, the mistakes
Speaker 1: and all that, you still have to Marvel and how
Speaker 1: he comes back and just the touchdown pat the second
Speaker 1: one to show dude, come on, man, come on man,
Speaker 1: that's that's and you know what that's That wasn't I
Speaker 1: shouldn't say it was improvised, but Schultz told me that
Speaker 1: during the week they had plaque practice that play uh
Speaker 1: several times and the ball never came to him. It
Speaker 1: went to CD. That's where the ball was supposed to go.
Speaker 1: But because of the way they played it and the
Speaker 1: corner stayed with CD. That left the safety with Dalton Schultz,
Speaker 1: the safeties five eleven, two hundred Scholtz sixty five, two
Speaker 1: fifty five. Who do you think is gonna jump ball?
Speaker 1: And it was That was a moment. As a defensive back,
Speaker 1: you have a dilemma. Okay, is he gonna throw it
Speaker 1: kind of like back shoulder like he did? It was
Speaker 1: semi back shoulder, but he gave it was kind of
Speaker 1: a lie. It was a lie, but it wasn't. It
Speaker 1: wasn't a lib towards the corner of the end zone, right,
Speaker 1: It was a lib towards the back of the end zone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So therefore the dB has to adjust his approach to
Speaker 1: the ball. Last minute he's thinking he's hauling. He's hauling
Speaker 1: trying to get to the corner of the end zone.
Speaker 1: But then as he looks up, it doesn't go corn
Speaker 1: of the end zone. He has to step, he has
Speaker 1: to jump up vertically, And of course that's probably why
Speaker 1: he messed up his knee. Did the six inches helped too,
Speaker 1: for you know, no doubt? Right? Yeah? So but yeah, so,
Speaker 1: you know, even even McArthur when he was talking about
Speaker 1: the interception, I think he said, the first one was,
Speaker 1: you know, a drop past. The second one was a
Speaker 1: bad DESI dropping intelligence. Yeah. I went back to look
Speaker 1: at it and I wanted to see if maybe Schultz
Speaker 1: kind of didn't cut his route right, that's the way
Speaker 1: he threw it. That maybe he was well and it
Speaker 1: was a little bit behind him and he was never open.
Speaker 1: He just wasn't open. So you can't because I was
Speaker 1: trailing too close. There was a dump off pass available
Speaker 1: to Zeke. I think it was. He probably wouldn't have
Speaker 1: gotten the first down, but you wouldn't have thrown by inption. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it wasn't just a guy who was trailing him.
Speaker 1: He was a ballhawk. Kevin Byer. I was just looking
Speaker 1: up how many interceptions does he have in his career?
Speaker 1: Twenty seven interceptions? He really? Yep? Uh? In fact, now
Speaker 1: I'm looking up to last night. You know, his second
Speaker 1: year in the league by it at eight picks. That
Speaker 1: was in twenty seventeen. He's got twenty seven now in
Speaker 1: his career. Four this year, five last year. So I
Speaker 1: mean that's that was one guy who did play for Tennessee,
Speaker 1: who's a regular and a former Pro bowler, two time
Speaker 1: Pro bowler who did play for Tennessee. And last night's
Speaker 1: game see and then the other thing that happened, even
Speaker 1: though they their linebackers were out, defensive end was out,
Speaker 1: defensive tackle was out, the Cowboys struggled to run the football. Now,
Speaker 1: these guys are number two against the run, and I
Speaker 1: understand they had guys missing, but they decided we're playing
Speaker 1: a five man front, yes basically, and almost every down
Speaker 1: and it's like, you want to run the ball, okay,
Speaker 1: come on, and we're gonna have seven guys in the box.
Speaker 1: Especially when you went two tight ends, three tight ends,
Speaker 1: they put eight nine guys in the box. Right, It's like, no,
Speaker 1: you're not gonna run. And the Cowboys ended up what
Speaker 1: averaging two point seven yards a carry, and even when
Speaker 1: they ran for the touchdown, it was first in goal
Speaker 1: at the six and it was a four yard run,
Speaker 1: a one yard run, and a half yard run with
Speaker 1: a long reach by Zeke to score the touchdown. His
Speaker 1: ninth straight game with a touchdown by the way, So yeah,
Speaker 1: it was it was tough sledding in there, and so yeah,
Speaker 1: now you got to throw the ball. And last year
Speaker 1: we would have had an issue with that because what
Speaker 1: they talked about was being able to play the run,
Speaker 1: really playing like a two man behind that and that
Speaker 1: always gave that problems. And this year that does not
Speaker 1: seem to be working. Whether it's Philadelphia or Tennessee. He's
Speaker 1: able to decipher things much better this year, much quicker
Speaker 1: and really take advantage of any situation that he recognized,
Speaker 1: and a little more patient because some of those routes
Speaker 1: he's thrown the CD he needed time for those routes
Speaker 1: to develop. Offensive line, Yeah, we're just we have a
Speaker 1: that travels. We talk about defense traveling. That offensive line
Speaker 1: is traveling. Well, we can't run the ball, then we
Speaker 1: have the protection to keep that comfortable in the pocket.
Speaker 1: And you're right, there are times when he's back there.
Speaker 1: He's got full comfortable seconds. Yeah, to see what's going on,
Speaker 1: that's alluxury. And speaking of speaking of offensive line, tell
Speaker 1: us what's going on with the offensive line with Tyler
Speaker 1: Bias going down? Last night? They traveled to the right.
Speaker 1: So uh and and McCarthy said that, you know, they
Speaker 1: bring um, what's his name, brock Hoffman Hoffman, Right, he
Speaker 1: gets elevated off the practice squad as kind of the
Speaker 1: backup center guard. But obviously they didn't want to put
Speaker 1: him in the game. I know he hasn't played yet, right,
Speaker 1: So the plan was McCarthy said, when I asked him,
Speaker 1: is you know it was always Connor mcgovernin moves from
Speaker 1: left guard to center, Tyler smooth Smith the move from
Speaker 1: left tackle to left guard, and Jason Peters comes in
Speaker 1: at left tackle. And you know, they had a couple
Speaker 1: plays that they struggled with. There was one that they
Speaker 1: didn't everybody took a guy, but no one took the
Speaker 1: guy coming through the gap right, and I think it
Speaker 1: ended up in that sack. But other than that, I
Speaker 1: mean they kind of hung in there. Now we got
Speaker 1: to see what they do going forward. That was the
Speaker 1: emergency plan. And by the way, brock Hoffman is out
Speaker 1: of elevations. Now, that was his third elevation from the
Speaker 1: practice squad. You only get three, and they did that
Speaker 1: earlier in the year with Dakota Shepley the Chicago Green
Speaker 1: Bay in Minnesota game, they used his three elevations. Anybody else,
Speaker 1: you know, Aviante Collins, who's not a center, has had
Speaker 1: two elevations, right, and he has I think he might
Speaker 1: have some center okay experience a TCU. But anyway, so
Speaker 1: after the game, I was told that, you know, Beatish
Speaker 1: is in a walking boot, and he didn't really want
Speaker 1: to talk about it. Uh, it's his right foot and
Speaker 1: he's lucky because the way he got rolled up on
Speaker 1: when they showed the replay, I mean they got both
Speaker 1: knees from behind. Right. It's a high ankle sprain, but
Speaker 1: they didn't think it was of the serious nature that
Speaker 1: a high ankle sprain can be where it's least four weeks, yeah,
Speaker 1: a lesser higher. I mean it's high, but it's not
Speaker 1: as serious as normal. So you know, the thought was, well,
Speaker 1: there's thirteen gay days maybe between games if they played
Speaker 1: the following Sunday, because it could be Saturday by the way, Uh,
Speaker 1: and then you know, and then it's another's week until
Speaker 1: you play a playoff game, So he could, you know,
Speaker 1: have almost two weeks to recover. So they're gonna well,
Speaker 1: we'll see whether that Washington game is gonna matter or not.
Speaker 1: It depends on the New Orleans Saints on Sunday, right,
Speaker 1: because then you can just say, well, there's no sense
Speaker 1: rushing him back, just getting ready for the playoffs. But again,
Speaker 1: if you're gonna have to adjust for the playoffs, you
Speaker 1: better put those guys out there how you want to
Speaker 1: play the playoffs at least for a half, Right, And
Speaker 1: I don't know if you say, well, okay, if this
Speaker 1: is the way it's got to go with McGovern at center,
Speaker 1: do I take Tyrn Smith put him back at left tackle? Right?
Speaker 1: Is it easier for Peters to play right tackle or
Speaker 1: rotate with Josh Ball on the right side. And I
Speaker 1: think that's the decision. They'll have to make that left
Speaker 1: tackle position pretty important though, right, So that's one thing
Speaker 1: that I think they would have to consider. Tylan looks good, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it looks real good. There was a couple pass blocks
Speaker 1: that Jason Peters struggled with. I don't know, you want
Speaker 1: him to play seventy snaps. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: have a choice, well well and so yeah and so
Speaker 1: well then you but he's never played right tackle right
Speaker 1: as fa until that that yeah, that drive, Yeah, that's rush,
Speaker 1: that's right, until this year he played it fore yards
Speaker 1: by golly, yeah, that's right, which is a different So
Speaker 1: it's a different dynamic in that decision. Yeah, as opposed
Speaker 1: to what it was whether you're choosing with Tyler Smith
Speaker 1: to play left tackle. Now he slides in and so
Speaker 1: now it's okay, I think that's a no player. You
Speaker 1: gotta put time and back and left. If that's what
Speaker 1: we're dealing with, you have to put time back and
Speaker 1: left where he's the man. Right To say comfortable is
Speaker 1: an understatement, And maybe maybe the decision depends on how
Speaker 1: long they think Beyondish is out. Is it just one
Speaker 1: game or if it's two games and you got to
Speaker 1: go in the playoffs, you better situated how you want
Speaker 1: to play in the playoffs, right, So that's one of
Speaker 1: the things that they got to decide. All right, we're
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Speaker 1: podcast studio. But my understanding is Nate is just going
Speaker 1: to listen. Although he's got a headset on. He got
Speaker 1: a microphone in front of him. He's never turned down
Speaker 1: a microphone. Huh, even if he's tired, I'd sell you what.
Speaker 1: I have one story I called Mickey the day of
Speaker 1: the game. He just read that country thing. He's a
Speaker 1: head Nate. I don't miss Mississippi as much as I
Speaker 1: thought because he's some country folks that I didn't know
Speaker 1: how to take that. I did not know how to
Speaker 1: take that. Let's let's turn that around. I said, Nate,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of country folks walking around this place.
Speaker 1: And he goes, and he goes, yeah, that makes Mississippi
Speaker 1: look good. Yeah, about like fifty five to five. How
Speaker 1: we'll get We'll get to fifty six to five here.
Speaker 1: How was your trip to the Grand ol Opry Wednesday night? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I don't think that happened. Okay. I just walked down
Speaker 1: Broadway on Thursday, like late morning, early afternoon. Place was
Speaker 1: packed and packed with cowboy fans too, by the way,
Speaker 1: that's not surprising. And and you know what, it gave
Speaker 1: me a new uh meeting to when people are on
Speaker 1: those singing shows and they ask them, what where have
Speaker 1: you appeared, and they say, well in Nashville. I sing
Speaker 1: in Nashville. So I'm thinking they're like concerts all over them. Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: they're just in these clubs and they're singing and the
Speaker 1: windows are open. When you walk down the street and
Speaker 1: you hear everybody's singing, I'm going, that's what these people
Speaker 1: were talking about on American I. Yeah, I I I
Speaker 1: in Nashville. Yeah, all right, I can see that. Okay. Um, yes,
Speaker 1: you want to get to our picks to click and
Speaker 1: how successful. We were or were not want this one down?
Speaker 1: What you got going on? I don't have anything going
Speaker 1: on because you totally missed it. I did I met?
Speaker 1: You know I didn't totally miss the score. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you totally missed the score. You know, if you take
Speaker 1: away if you turned two two interceptions and a fumble
Speaker 1: into touchdowns, then you're getting close to fifty six from
Speaker 1: twenty seven. But if those turned into touchdowns, there's forty eight.
Speaker 1: You might have got to forty. Okay, my, if you
Speaker 1: missed it my because of the gas my gas tank
Speaker 1: I filled up earlier this week and my guests price
Speaker 1: it was fifty six dollars and five cents. So my
Speaker 1: predicted score on the game was fifty six to five.
Speaker 1: See I rather you know, he just picks the Cowboys
Speaker 1: to win win by one. Hey, I was the closest guys, No,
Speaker 1: I was, No, I got I got thirty one thirteen,
Speaker 1: twenty seven, thirteen fourteen point spreads talking about thirty one,
Speaker 1: thirty sixteen, thirty one sixteen, and I had a fifteen
Speaker 1: point spread and they won by fourteen. You missed both scores.
Speaker 1: I got the spread right. Ever since got the thirteen
Speaker 1: what is he talking about nobody has ever looked at that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: now I can't pick my tight ends because of course
Speaker 1: the tight end was the main one that just coughed up.
Speaker 1: The tight end scored two touchdowns in the game, right there.
Speaker 1: All right, I'll take that. I'll take that on Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1: I can. We have a thing called pod picks, obviously
Speaker 1: is a rest pe game. One person pick. They were correct.
Speaker 1: Score actually brought us did exactly twenty seven thirteen. That's correct.
Speaker 1: They don't put mine on there, dude, they do, Oh
Speaker 1: they do. If I would have known that, I am
Speaker 1: the closest I had no idea. If you could go
Speaker 1: Bill Jones' score fifty six to five, that's right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's pretty bad. That looks that makes you look like
Speaker 1: an amateur. Really, do truth hurts? Or he worse than that?
Speaker 1: I'm start uh having William put Bill's gas bill, that's right.
Speaker 1: Just instead of fifty six to five, put fifty six
Speaker 1: dollars five six? All right, So who wins? I know
Speaker 1: who is your pick? To click? Clark Deman Clark, Nope me.
Speaker 1: He had a tackle for loss on the last play
Speaker 1: the game. That's got anchow. I got two touchdowns. I
Speaker 1: got touchdown. No, that wasn't his guy. I know he
Speaker 1: was confused on who it was. Guy. He wind up
Speaker 1: with that guy. That's the last guy, the last guy
Speaker 1: that comes to make the tackle. Oh he got beat. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's no way they got little linebacker covering the wide receiver.
Speaker 1: Diggs got off of his guy and went to somebody
Speaker 1: else to help out. And then he guess wrong wrong. Again.
Speaker 1: He's been lately. He's been guessing like Dax been gas. Now,
Speaker 1: I could have for given him if he had got
Speaker 1: that pick six nice claned off his hands. That's that's
Speaker 1: that's an instinctive read right there, because you know that
Speaker 1: they're not going to be going towards the sidelines. You
Speaker 1: know they're gonna try and throw it. Yeah he saw
Speaker 1: that was good stuff. It was coming. Yeah. Um, but again,
Speaker 1: you know, the injuries still kind of effect um this
Speaker 1: defense when you don't have Vanderish in there. I mean,
Speaker 1: at one point they were trying to give bar and
Speaker 1: Clark a break. They had Luke Gifford and Dabill Cox
Speaker 1: out there. I saw that Jabil Cox played fourteen STAPs.
Speaker 1: That's the most he's had in his career in a
Speaker 1: single game. I forgot he was active, tell you truth.
Speaker 1: And then the cornerback position they're still I mean, it
Speaker 1: looks like they're going with Nashan right, you know. I
Speaker 1: mean he had some moments out there, but then he
Speaker 1: got the pick. He had forty seven snaps, his most
Speaker 1: in his career, so I thought he played well, especially
Speaker 1: for his inexperience. Yeah, you know what happened on the
Speaker 1: deep one when they showed the replay, Donovan Wilson was
Speaker 1: back and for some reason he bit up. I don't
Speaker 1: know what he was biting up on because he didn't
Speaker 1: come to cover anybody, and then he had no help
Speaker 1: deep and Hooker was way on the other side of
Speaker 1: the field. He couldn't get there in time to help
Speaker 1: him out. That's about how they play, right, That's about
Speaker 1: how to Kyle Boys play. Yeah, the coaches put him
Speaker 1: in position, and if they they've been told if you
Speaker 1: see something you're sure about it jumping in. And as
Speaker 1: we get closer to playoff football, we can't do that, right.
Speaker 1: We have to cover our friends back, our brothers back,
Speaker 1: and we have to be sure and if Nation and
Speaker 1: Right is going to be this guy. And my question
Speaker 1: to you guys, and maybe to everything is I've seen
Speaker 1: teams going to get on a roll and win with
Speaker 1: a bunch of turnovers on defense. Can can we sustain this?
Speaker 1: Is this sustainable? It's nineteen eighty one going into San Francisco.
Speaker 1: You know, eventually if we're that blessed, you know, and
Speaker 1: I remember going into same friend. We had always been
Speaker 1: known for giving up the plays, but getting our plays,
Speaker 1: getting the sacks come a lot like this team. But
Speaker 1: and then we finally get the championship. The defense finally
Speaker 1: started playing well. But then now the offense is struggling
Speaker 1: because this is playoffs, right, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: going against the hell of a defense, and now you
Speaker 1: end up you thought you right at the wrong but
Speaker 1: in the end you still give it up on a
Speaker 1: big play. When it's all said and done, you can't,
Speaker 1: like you said, it's dangerous going to the playoffs with
Speaker 1: status quote. You know, you have to somehow step up
Speaker 1: and make some adjustments. The only thing that made me
Speaker 1: feel good about yesterday was everything was set up for
Speaker 1: us to lose. You know, last year, to me, we
Speaker 1: would have lost this game, and I don't care who
Speaker 1: would have been playing. I think we would have collapsed offensively, defensively,
Speaker 1: they would have picked on us in every injured position
Speaker 1: in the secondary that we had to deal with, and
Speaker 1: we didn't. We came out of it unfamiliar field. You're
Speaker 1: on grass, Yes, dude? Was it human out there? Were
Speaker 1: you there? Was? It? Was it human? While it was raining,
Speaker 1: it was They looked. They looked up. They looked like
Speaker 1: Emma Smith back in Florida running for all those all
Speaker 1: those plays back in the day. His jersey was wet
Speaker 1: and torn, and you could just tell the humidity was
Speaker 1: in the air. It looked like they were exhausted. No
Speaker 1: out there. I wrote that in my column. I said
Speaker 1: they looked like an exhausted team that played three games
Speaker 1: in twelve days. Yes, and no excuse, but that's kind
Speaker 1: of the way it looks. Well, No, they didn't. They didn't.
Speaker 1: They didn't need any excuses. That's what I like about
Speaker 1: the game. They came through all those problems that you
Speaker 1: could have leaned back on and they still won the game.
Speaker 1: And this is the second time they've went three games
Speaker 1: or twelve days, right, Yes, they they At first, I
Speaker 1: couldn't get it when coach McCarthy was trying to tell
Speaker 1: us that earlier in the week. It's a grind. It's
Speaker 1: and I couldn't get it, but I get it now.
Speaker 1: I mean, even though conditions are different, players get a
Speaker 1: chance to rest, it's still just the nature of the
Speaker 1: beast of the physicalness of the game. And uh, and
Speaker 1: not practicing, yeah, I mean, short week travel. It was
Speaker 1: all set up. I mean they practiced, but it wasn't football.
Speaker 1: You know Allen iverson practice. Yeah, yeah, and and and
Speaker 1: and if you think about it, the defense, they gave
Speaker 1: up some big plays. Um, I had figured out at halftime. Um,
Speaker 1: Tennessee at halftime after my bill, I got it. I
Speaker 1: got it. Just hang with me. This is part of
Speaker 1: the appeal of the show. Looking for whatever he's about
Speaker 1: to say that hits at seven. I want to be accurate.
Speaker 1: Right at halftime, Tennessee had one hundred and fifty two yards.
Speaker 1: They had one hundred two on three plays, so they
Speaker 1: were getting hit with big plays. And then in the
Speaker 1: third quarter, if you take away one possession, it's a
Speaker 1: twenty seven six game and everybody's happy, right. They converted
Speaker 1: three third and sixes on that possession and a fourth
Speaker 1: down conversion, and the last third and six was for
Speaker 1: the touchdown that we talked about. So you make one
Speaker 1: play somewhere and there, it's a different score, and everybody's
Speaker 1: happy with twenty seven six, right, So so is this
Speaker 1: stretch And this is not an excuse because Tennessee played
Speaker 1: the same schedule this stretch of three games in well
Speaker 1: days as opposed to Thanksgiving. Is it tougher as players
Speaker 1: to go Sunday and then play Saturday and then Thursday,
Speaker 1: or Saturday to Sunday and then Thursday, that the middle
Speaker 1: game being on Saturday. Does it make a difference. The
Speaker 1: thing that that gish is most coaches try to keep
Speaker 1: you on on scanting schedule, and so that's getting that's
Speaker 1: getting disrupted. You got a lot of injuries that have
Speaker 1: been that have occurred, so now you got to try
Speaker 1: to fix those injuries in a short week. And yeah,
Speaker 1: it could be hectic, man, because even though the coaches
Speaker 1: said we're gonna try to run plays that relate to
Speaker 1: other plays, you still want to put a wrinkle in
Speaker 1: on a wrinkle there, and it could throw off the
Speaker 1: young guys. This and Mickey told me this other day.
Speaker 1: I didn't this team is young. This is a very
Speaker 1: young team and they've come through this man, and Josey
Speaker 1: maccarthur's just done a super job. You know, I think
Speaker 1: of bringing his team through this man because this is
Speaker 1: the only coach I know in America has to defend
Speaker 1: winning coach. I got to walk up and say, Okay,
Speaker 1: it wasn't pretty. What did we do wrong? We got
Speaker 1: twelve wins. We got twelve wins, but oh what was me? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And so from a mindset of a player, right now,
Speaker 1: you just got through that stretch, which is a second
Speaker 1: time in a month's time that you've played three games
Speaker 1: in twelve days. And now it's New Year's weekend, you
Speaker 1: get the long weekend, You got one game left and
Speaker 1: then the postseason, regardless of whether things fall your way
Speaker 1: and you win the division whatever. You know that, Okay,
Speaker 1: at least you're playing next Sunday or Saturday or Sunday
Speaker 1: in Washington and there's the playoffs. How does that help you?
Speaker 1: From a mental standpoint? Get ready? Now that okay, you
Speaker 1: you're through this December November December crunch time, and now
Speaker 1: focus on the playoffs. Well, this is the end of
Speaker 1: the season, I mean, this is it. So the grind
Speaker 1: itself could have caught up with you. You know, you're
Speaker 1: pastor grind. Now you're past the ground and you got
Speaker 1: you You have a reprieve coming up as well, with
Speaker 1: your number of days that you have before you play
Speaker 1: the Commanders. That's what I like about it. They kind
Speaker 1: of get to rest going into the playoffs. So you
Speaker 1: kind of look at it like, you know, timing is everything,
Speaker 1: you know with the thing now that you got to
Speaker 1: w on Thursday, it's like, all right, we got an
Speaker 1: advantage over everybody else now right now, I can't I
Speaker 1: can't tell you how good that win felt because everything
Speaker 1: was set up for you to lose. Everything was set
Speaker 1: up for you to start having Domino's fall as opposed
Speaker 1: to setting them up the Marcus Lawrence was pretty good
Speaker 1: about the perception. M I was standing and when he
Speaker 1: said this, he said, once you all see a game
Speaker 1: like Minnesota, you instantly think that's how every game's supposed
Speaker 1: to be. He said. I wish, he said, but it's not.
Speaker 1: You have to be able to fight through adversity. I
Speaker 1: think it comes with the territ And then somebody said about,
Speaker 1: well it's a win, but cowboys get criticized. He goes,
Speaker 1: I think it comes with the territory of being a
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboy. In all honesty, you all questioned every day thing,
Speaker 1: but he was right. He was right. You know, he
Speaker 1: has a way of putting things. And he had a
Speaker 1: hell of a game. He had five tackles, um, he
Speaker 1: had a quarterbacks hit, forced fumble, and two passes defended
Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage. So that was a Pro
Speaker 1: Bowl performance. That's my guy. Right. We talked about it
Speaker 1: last week. Yeah, well this week, this week you you you,
Speaker 1: this is where we were learning a lot about the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: These next three days they're off. Right. We should be
Speaker 1: able to call every guy on his cell phone and said, hey, man,
Speaker 1: where you at? Just catching my up? Man, I'm laying,
Speaker 1: I'm at home, I'm sleeping. I'm over head to the
Speaker 1: training room, right, Because that is the only, uh solution. No,
Speaker 1: that is the only solution you have. If any guy
Speaker 1: I'm talking about paying significant snaps for the Dallas Cowboys,
Speaker 1: it's out doing anything, hanging out at the Cowboys care. Na, Na,
Speaker 1: that was a different breed of guy. Was different. You
Speaker 1: gotta understand how let me go through that real quick. See,
Speaker 1: I took the protest, coach, I took the process as
Speaker 1: a coach. I don't care how many games we play.
Speaker 1: You're gonna be in your pads. I don't care how
Speaker 1: many games we played. I'm gonna be our drink. I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be I'm gonna be consistent. You know, if
Speaker 1: you're gonna be consistent, coach, I'm gonna be consistent. All right,
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Speaker 1: of mixed shots. We get you ready for the new year. Mickey,
Speaker 1: what you got in your legal pad? Um? I never
Speaker 1: figured out the fumbled snap like what happened there? I
Speaker 1: was thinking, look like he pulled away to pull away
Speaker 1: to SA's the way it looked like because when I
Speaker 1: it seemed as if once he finally even did he
Speaker 1: even touch the ball, ried to touch it seemed like
Speaker 1: he was all with it. He was backing up. I
Speaker 1: didn't know if the ball was wet because it had rained.
Speaker 1: It really rained that first quarter. Pok. Well you guys,
Speaker 1: I don't know if you could see it on TV,
Speaker 1: but it was coming down. Um, yeah that was a
Speaker 1: that was a weird one. Um. That was on DAK.
Speaker 1: I have a shot of it. Yeah, it looked pretty Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was why is he moving out so fast? Why
Speaker 1: that's just didn't make any sense, and once again still
Speaker 1: able to overcome those mistakes. So it's weird. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: why I'm I don't know why I'm so happy about
Speaker 1: that game and you in that first half they had
Speaker 1: those big plays. I pointed out thirty nine, thirty three
Speaker 1: and thirty and the worst they did was give up
Speaker 1: field goals. So looked like on that snap that Dak
Speaker 1: was pulling out and he was gonna he was pivoting
Speaker 1: and he was gonna roll left, and he was he
Speaker 1: knew he had to get there in a hurry even
Speaker 1: and I think I've ever seen him fumple a snap. Yeah,
Speaker 1: do you recall that might have been one of those
Speaker 1: that he was gonna go left and throw it the
Speaker 1: CD who was in motion on the run, and they
Speaker 1: ran one like that the other way too. By the
Speaker 1: did I tell y'all I don't miss the Miry Cooper anymore?
Speaker 1: Did I say? No? You haven't said that, not missed
Speaker 1: the Mary Cooper in a long time, say about at
Speaker 1: least six weeks? Because the CD? Because the CD you
Speaker 1: miss O b J. I'm no, because of t y
Speaker 1: y Man. They increased his snaps from twelve to twenty two,
Speaker 1: and I would imagine that goes up another ten and
Speaker 1: he's where, Yes, he's where he needs to be when
Speaker 1: Dak needs him. He's always going to run the right
Speaker 1: route slot on that slant for the first down, I
Speaker 1: mean Ale and the one that he caught and ran
Speaker 1: with it was a short pass and he got twenty
Speaker 1: yards right, And he almost had that deep one because
Speaker 1: he did the same thing. He kind of like kept
Speaker 1: his arms in in the last minute and he needed
Speaker 1: one more step. Uh, and he would have because you
Speaker 1: know what, when I when I recognized when he was
Speaker 1: in that cornerback was off ten yards right and the
Speaker 1: safety was stopping over the top. It's like, no, not
Speaker 1: on us, right, And uh, he's fast, but it's kind
Speaker 1: of hard to make up ten yards right. But yeah,
Speaker 1: he what a find, right, I mean, the the what,
Speaker 1: the what? The thought process we're throwing the ball deep? Yeah,
Speaker 1: we actually threw consciously throwing the ball dep and look
Speaker 1: what happens when you throw the ball deep? Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: come on, what they are You might get the PI
Speaker 1: and we ended up getting nothing. Two of them they
Speaker 1: got deep passes. PI was it two? Yeah? It was
Speaker 1: two right, it was two one deep. I know, I
Speaker 1: thought it's two of them were deep. But what it
Speaker 1: did is it just shows that, you know, most defensive
Speaker 1: backs are not ready for that, So don't let them
Speaker 1: off the hook by always building them out with short routes.
Speaker 1: We need to threaten them deeply. And that's what happened. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Gallup had had one of them, right, the guy mugged him.
Speaker 1: It was really funny because when they showed the replay
Speaker 1: in the stadium, everybody started booing, I'm going, oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: I thought c d lost track of the ball on
Speaker 1: his deep yes, And I didn't think he made I
Speaker 1: thought he made an unnecessary move. Was their son? If
Speaker 1: he were the key? Just asking you were there, tell
Speaker 1: us maybe the rain drop? All right, let me ask
Speaker 1: you this. Five fifty one left of the game, after
Speaker 1: the nation right interception, Cowboys are up twenty seven to thirteen.
Speaker 1: You want him to run all three plays? Zeke ran
Speaker 1: for nothing, which which was typical all night, and then
Speaker 1: incomplete the CD incomplete uh punt and four fifty five left?
Speaker 1: Who you ran fifty five seconds off the clock on
Speaker 1: that possession? Why why are you throwing it there? I'm
Speaker 1: just asking you are who we who maybe thought you were,
Speaker 1: maybe they thought it was it was too easy. We
Speaker 1: are who we thought you were. That's that's you are,
Speaker 1: who were you work. That's what I can say. Like
Speaker 1: you said, it's just in his DNA. He can't help himself.
Speaker 1: You know, you have great receivers, you know, and you
Speaker 1: know you got t Y Hilton, and you know once
Speaker 1: a quarter you're gonna take a shot, once twice a game.
Speaker 1: Keller more gonna take a shot. And how much At
Speaker 1: that time, I think he was trying to put a
Speaker 1: drive together to take the time off the cloud. That
Speaker 1: was supposed to be his deliberate plays to take time
Speaker 1: off the cloud. But if you're not completing the past,
Speaker 1: then of course it's counterproductive. And I don't think they
Speaker 1: were going to tempt there. On the previous drive, they
Speaker 1: went tempo, taking over nine forty five left, which was
Speaker 1: the field goal drive. They got right him up twenty
Speaker 1: seven thirteen, which, by the way, this guy's money. That
Speaker 1: was the forty five yards. I mean that was basically
Speaker 1: to seal the game, right, and he just right down
Speaker 1: the middle. I love the Scott he's amazing. We got
Speaker 1: the best, and I wonder if okay, it's the opponent
Speaker 1: factoring into this. Okay, we can we can just go
Speaker 1: ahead and throw it here. And because this game's in hand,
Speaker 1: you don't they I don't want to go because they won.
Speaker 1: I don't want to be that guy. But you don't.
Speaker 1: You don't ever be counterproductive with your team as a coach,
Speaker 1: especially as a quarterback in your defensive leader. You don't
Speaker 1: do things that you know. Yeah, you just don't. And
Speaker 1: and we we do that a couple of games and
Speaker 1: we've learned to accept it. Uh so yeah, yeah, so
Speaker 1: but this, this is what I think the Cowboys is.
Speaker 1: I mean, even if when we get into the playoffs,
Speaker 1: we can go to TOWNPA, we can go to wherever
Speaker 1: we're going to Carolina, and it's gonna be a time
Speaker 1: where you said, wow, you know you didn't have to
Speaker 1: do that. Yeah, we didn't have to do that. But uh,
Speaker 1: it's because that I knew a play you was Brando,
Speaker 1: because the first thing I said, looking at the game,
Speaker 1: I said, wow, Nick Sable would have pulled Kiff into
Speaker 1: the size and looking at it, that's why you're going
Speaker 1: that way. You missed it right, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You can't stay here with that. Well, but that's they're trying.
Speaker 1: Who we are, but they're trying to close the game.
Speaker 1: They averaged two point seven yards to carry. So if
Speaker 1: you ran the ball, okay, fine, you're giving it back.
Speaker 1: Because it's been in the last couple of months of
Speaker 1: the season there they have been running in the ball.
Speaker 1: I mean yes, I know, especially second half of games
Speaker 1: where they would have a twelve play touchdown drive and
Speaker 1: there's nine runs on that touchdown. Well, the next time
Speaker 1: they got but they weren't having the success running the
Speaker 1: ball against Tennessee. Yeah, he was trying to get a drive,
Speaker 1: going to take time off, right, Yeah, and they just
Speaker 1: keep the ball. Yes, because the next drive when they
Speaker 1: came with like three minutes left, three and chamo, it
Speaker 1: was third and eight. I don't call, I don't call who.
Speaker 1: He passed it too. He did a smity. He did
Speaker 1: a smoke screen to see d which is basically a run, right,
Speaker 1: and it's a safe pass. Gonna stop, But that's not
Speaker 1: gonna stop the plot. Why would need to seal this win?
Speaker 1: Hey man, you want you got your third straight hundred
Speaker 1: yard game here he got two yards against hundred. Temp
Speaker 1: Tempo works, but see, tempo works both ways. You walk
Speaker 1: out of the huddle, you look at the clock and
Speaker 1: you snap it with two or three seconds left. Temple
Speaker 1: works both ways. And that's all Bill is saying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know we could have got a minute and fifty
Speaker 1: five or two minutes because we have been walking out
Speaker 1: of the huddle. I mean, yeah, I knew we weren't
Speaker 1: gonna run the ball. If you just knew it, you
Speaker 1: knew it. I mean I was glad. I was like,
Speaker 1: I was wondering why we didn't throw more shorter pass
Speaker 1: because they couldn't cover CD the you know, they couldn't
Speaker 1: cover t Y and I tight end. I was like, wow,
Speaker 1: why we ain't dinking and talking? Because the boy you
Speaker 1: saw zeke man, I'm gonna get out of this, he
Speaker 1: believe one time he looked. I saw that too. He
Speaker 1: was the one run he had though, and he didn't
Speaker 1: even get hit. He just said, I'm not getting hit.
Speaker 1: You never seen tired, man. He looked tired. That was
Speaker 1: I just, well, it goes back to what we talked about,
Speaker 1: the exhaustion. I just looked like a tired team at times.
Speaker 1: And once again looked tired, but still came through to play.
Speaker 1: Probably a little mentally tired too. Yeah right, and still
Speaker 1: won the game. Yeah, and yes we're playing against back
Speaker 1: all that still won the game. Bill, you played football
Speaker 1: in your days up to my sophomore year in high school? Yeah,
Speaker 1: did you ever get did you ever get ridicule for winning?
Speaker 1: I'm serious just thinking that for the one four weeks.
Speaker 1: Coach McCarthy been like he'd been dreading to come to
Speaker 1: the mic. I mean I didn't end. Yeah, so win
Speaker 1: was every I was telling the telling the story yesterday.
Speaker 1: I said when I was fourth grade, Okay, first year
Speaker 1: I played organized football Irvan y m c A. We
Speaker 1: won the championship. We had a quarterback named Neil Turner
Speaker 1: who was All American. Okay, he won the championship game
Speaker 1: at Irving School Stadium forty two to seven. Next year
Speaker 1: I played for the Army. I was the starting quarterback.
Speaker 1: You know, you know how many touchdowns we scored that year? Zero?
Speaker 1: At the end, at the end of the season, they
Speaker 1: went and got me glasses, and I'm like, what, no
Speaker 1: wonder I could no wonder, I couldn't play quarterback. I
Speaker 1: couldn't see the receiver. It was like a whole new
Speaker 1: world opened up to me. I got these glasses, Now,
Speaker 1: I would have been in all Hall of Fame quarterback
Speaker 1: all right. They were scared to play me, so I
Speaker 1: never got exhausted. I would be scared for you to play.
Speaker 1: My mom was too. Although there was one game we
Speaker 1: were sophomore year, were undefeated and we had to play
Speaker 1: thorn Ridge, which was a really good football school, and
Speaker 1: they had this freshman named Quinn Buckner. We all knew
Speaker 1: about Quinn buck right, and he didn't play the first
Speaker 1: time we met. We played him twice that year. We
Speaker 1: beat him the first time. The second time. All we
Speaker 1: could talk about, Oh, this Quinn Buckner's playing in this game.
Speaker 1: They would put him all over the place. He played safety, linebacker,
Speaker 1: running back. Yes he was, and uh they were, I was.
Speaker 1: I was watching this stuff right. And we were punting, No,
Speaker 1: they were they we were punting to them. He catches
Speaker 1: the punt, he's coming up field. No one's tackling him.
Speaker 1: When we got one guy back. The guy back was
Speaker 1: my size, right. He didn't even put a move when
Speaker 1: the guy he just ran over in the flat. And
Speaker 1: at that point I'm looking him going yeah, I really
Speaker 1: don't want to get this. Wow. And he was only
Speaker 1: a freshman. I was gonna say, I was looking at
Speaker 1: the different I just looked him up. What a second
Speaker 1: Quinn Buttoner can't be seventy yes, sixty eight years old.
Speaker 1: He was a freshman around me and my cousin who
Speaker 1: played against herschel Walker. To a minute, I tackle hershew Walk.
Speaker 1: I hit him with everything I had. Y'all slowing down,
Speaker 1: ye have for a hundred and all? Right? That does
Speaker 1: it for a Friday edition of Mixed Shots. You got,
Speaker 1: y'all got big. New Year's Eve plays right un and
Speaker 1: by the way, oh we got football tomorrow. We could
Speaker 1: do playoff. I'm watching football. Can't see you the church church? Yeah,
Speaker 1: New Year's Eve, New Year's Eve, New Year's Church Chicken. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: on the record, on the record, who's playing? Who's winning
Speaker 1: the college bowl games tomorrow? Always Michigan or DCU, Michigan
Speaker 1: in Ohio State Georgia. As much as I like Michigan
Speaker 1: running back, I'm going with TCU. I want TCU the wine.
Speaker 1: I want them to I want you bad. Yeah you haven't.
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna surprise people. Okay, So we're in agreement,
Speaker 1: TCUCU fans can get to the game and they're gonna
Speaker 1: play who in the National Championship Game? Oh, Georgie, come
Speaker 1: on with j George. Kill them, kill them George Georgia. Okay,
Speaker 1: TCU Georgia or in agreement, it's TCU Georgia in the
Speaker 1: National Championship Game. All right, that doesn't the gas, thanks SAX. Yeah,
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