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Speaker 2: Rather than a smaller group, I'm bigger, just hide you

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, you don't want anybody to slip through

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Speaker 3: But I think it's good for those guys to get

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Speaker 1: Can you recall a situation where where a tryout guy

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Speaker 2: A real difference for you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Malcolm Butler, what about him and in the trial

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Speaker 2: Well, I would say I was on the other side

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Speaker 3: But obviously you know the play he made team that

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Speaker 2: You know, he's just a guy.

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Speaker 3: That that was a trial guy that ended up being

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Speaker 2: Obviously in the biggest game of the year. Is it hard?

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Speaker 3: You've studied too, obviously, you know, but you know, you

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Speaker 2: And you're kind of walking through this one and that one,

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Speaker 4: A trained eye in these guys and you know, make

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Speaker 2: Well, that's why you film.

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Speaker 3: You film every drill, you spend time after practice, you

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Speaker 2: It's you tell the coaches.

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Speaker 3: Usually when training camp starts, and even these camps don't

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Speaker 2: It's not just one day. But here you only have

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Speaker 3: So we'll go through. We went through the first day.

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Speaker 5: A lot of scouting is obviously looking beyond the numbers.

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Speaker 5: THEO Johnson didn't even have a thousand yards in his

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Speaker 4: And THEO Johnson.

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Speaker 3: He's he's smart, he's a young professional, true pro, loves

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Speaker 6: With, had a relationship at Penn State. You've been there

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Speaker 6: Get to know THEO from Afar or even closer than that?

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Speaker 6: Looked like the team at least your cold with him

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Speaker 2: Just well, we've talked to him a few times before.

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Speaker 3: Again, had a lot of good recommendations from from Penn State,

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Speaker 2: The offensive side with him.

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Speaker 3: A good, big, long, athletic player that we thought was

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Speaker 2: So there's some specific times at Penn State where he

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Speaker 5: Is what does that mean?

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Speaker 3: I think I think you know, credit Joe and their staff.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's something that we place a high premium on.

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Speaker 2: It's hard to.

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Speaker 2: But there are ways away.

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Speaker 7: How do you think Elite handled the that that supposedly

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Speaker 2: That situation right? Just give me one more time.

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Speaker 7: He made a ten thousand dollars bet for Rookie of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I think I think he's a mature young guy.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm I was happy with the weight handling.

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Speaker 3: You talk about the old Johnson and you know he's

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Speaker 2: How much of the correlations between the Canadian game the

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Speaker 3: But you know, we have some some people in our

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Speaker 2: I was born in Canada.

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Speaker 3: Again, if you can play, you can play.

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Speaker 2: I don't think anyone would turned the head six years

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Speaker 7: Him that Speaking of behind him, that catch he made yesterday,

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Speaker 3: But there's a lot to learn. He's he's athletic, he's quick,

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 3: Now it's it's our job and it's his job here

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Speaker 2: You have some sorry, you have some receivers.

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Speaker 7: The league is an example out shops now as example

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Speaker 3: So we kind of require all our guys to try

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Speaker 1: Them with their phase too. We won't for a couple

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Speaker 3: You look, but with the new kickoff rules, but you

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Speaker 2: Will do that what spot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd say there's a lot of there's a lot

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Speaker 2: And I think it's a different play now.

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Speaker 3: There's there's a lot less space, you know, to run.

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Speaker 2: Really, what's your philosophy with these guys lobbying you know,

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Speaker 2: the logging full snaps if they're the best guys.

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Speaker 3: You know, I've been part of teams that Julian Edelman

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Speaker 3: returning for us that that made a lot of productive plays.

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Speaker 2: If it helps the team, it helps the team.

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Speaker 6: time for kickoff? The play requires a lot more new teaching.

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Speaker 3: We devote quite a bit of time in that area,

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Speaker 2: Something new, So it's something we have to work out.

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Speaker 4: Maybe seeing two returners back there more consistently than we

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Speaker 3: And yeah, I've been very happy with them, very organized, detailed.

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Speaker 2: They've done a good job.

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Speaker 3: You know, Shane's done a great job kind of leading

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Speaker 3: He was a special teams coordinator. He's been a good addition. Uh, Chuck,

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Speaker 3: Charlie Bullen has been a really good addition, So TK, Jimmy, Kelly,

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Speaker 3: carm Again, we're just we're out here. It's you know,

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Speaker 3: we've been out here for phase two. This would be

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Speaker 3: the second day of rookie camp, which is good, and

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Speaker 4: In a couple more inside linebackers seemed to be a

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Speaker 4: spot where you guys actually had some pretty good depth

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Speaker 4: with Bobby Micah Isaiah's back. What made Darius good option

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Speaker 4: for you guys in the sixth.

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Speaker 2: Round, Well, Gobs had some familiarity with him.

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Speaker 3: Smart, instinctive guy, loves the game of football, you know

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Speaker 3: he was, he was up there on our board.

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Speaker 2: You know, we were talking about him and you know,

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Speaker 6: Drew Phillips was talking about, you know, playing nickel and

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Speaker 6: you know it's changed like just a reception like it

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Speaker 6: used to be. You know, guys always felt like a

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Speaker 6: last resort. Okay, well you go inside and you go

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Speaker 6: play nickel. I know you're talking from an offensive perspective

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Speaker 6: when you're mentioning your flexibility for your offensive Guys, how

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Speaker 2: The game changed.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the game is I mean there's mostly eleven personnel.

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Speaker 3: I mean there's some that people run, some other heavy

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Speaker 3: heavy eleven i'd say heavy sub on defense. Most three

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Speaker 3: run fits. You'll be able to cover man demand tackle

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Speaker 3: well physical. You know, it's a very important position.

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Speaker 2: Yes, there's so.

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Speaker 3: Many people that play multiple receivers that you need to

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Speaker 2: On the defensive side, How do you.

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Speaker 1: Feel about that cornerback spot on the.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, look look forward to, look forward to working, you know,

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Speaker 3: working to know Phase three and training camp. But I've

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