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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 2: Remember the founder of cash app, Bob Lee. He was murdered,

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Speaker 2: according to prosecutors, and now taking a very controversial center

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Speaker 2: stage in the courtroom is his glamorous sister. But why,

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Speaker 2: I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for

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Speaker 2: being with us. It seems like just yesterday. In a

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Speaker 2: very disturbing nine on one call played in court, Lee, the

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Speaker 2: cash app founder, is heard begging for help before his death.

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Speaker 2: Help help, help, he says to the dispatcher who asks

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Speaker 2: his location. He goes on, somebody stab me, help me,

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Speaker 2: Please help me.

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Speaker 1: I'm standing on the street.

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Speaker 2: I need to get to the hospital, moaning in pain.

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Speaker 2: You can hear him begging before sirens are heard in

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Speaker 2: the background and the nine on one call abruptly ends.

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Speaker 2: The dad of two could not be saved. He died.

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Speaker 2: Prosecutors are now accusing the brother of the so called

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Speaker 2: glamorous Casarmomini of carefully planning the knife attack and even

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Speaker 2: taking a very unique knife from his sister's kitchen before

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Speaker 2: driving Bob Lee to a secluded area and stabbing him dead. Now,

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Speaker 2: I find it really interesting that a lot of outlets

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Speaker 2: the headline is that this glam sister of cash app

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Speaker 2: founder Bob Lee, debuts a new look. This is while

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Speaker 2: she's being blamed for the fight that caused Bob Lee's murder. Okay,

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Speaker 2: why is her outfit so important? Well, I can just

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Speaker 2: tell you this. She showed up to court wearing a

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Speaker 2: Pastelle blue silk Valentino dress with a bow at the

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Speaker 2: neckline that sells for nearly six thousand dollars. Okay. She

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Speaker 2: accessorized the look with large white framed glasses and a

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Speaker 2: small white clutch. Now, her stunning new appearance is very

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Speaker 2: different from the last time she was seen with darker

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Speaker 2: hair and an all black outfit. Whatever, don't care what

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Speaker 2: happened to the cash app founder.

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Speaker 1: I want you to take a listen to our friends

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Speaker 1: at in Mec.

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Speaker 3: Police say Lee was attacked not far from the Bay

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Speaker 3: Bridge at two thirty five am Tuesday. The area, thought

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Speaker 3: with surveillance cameras. Before collapsing on a sidewalk, Lee screamed

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Speaker 3: for help on his phone, saying someone stabbed me. According

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Speaker 3: to surveillance footage and records reviewed by the San Francisco Standard.

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Speaker 4: These images obtained by the Daily Mail Chouf tech exec

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Speaker 4: Bobb Lee stumbling along Main Street in San Francisco's Rincon

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Speaker 4: of the port Side apartment building. He attempts to use

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Speaker 4: the call box, then falls to the ground. Sources say

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Speaker 4: he had two stab wounds in his upper left chest.

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Speaker 4: He was on the ground for about ten seconds before

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Speaker 4: standing up. We now know he was walking towards a

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Speaker 4: police car minutes later. Lee died at the scene.

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Speaker 5: We have some leads to follow up on. I can't

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Speaker 5: disclose what those are now as early on an investigation,

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Speaker 5: but I'm hopeful and I'm very confident.

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Speaker 2: Can you imagine what this guy is going through. He

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Speaker 2: has two gorgeous little girls he's raising.

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Speaker 1: He has had an.

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Speaker 2: Incredible rise and meteoric rise in the tech industry, as

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Speaker 2: I said, a visionary.

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Speaker 1: And in those moments.

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Speaker 2: After he stabbed multiple times, he's staggering up and down

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Speaker 2: the streets trying to get help, but there is no help.

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Speaker 1: As you heard, this is.

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Speaker 2: In the exclusive Runcon area there the city by the Bay,

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Speaker 2: And I've thought about this over and over because my

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Speaker 2: memories of this area are all good. We've got an

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Speaker 2: all star panel to make sense of what we know

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Speaker 2: right now.

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Speaker 1: But first I want to go to.

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Speaker 2: Chief investigative reporter for dailymail dot Com, Jen Smith, joining us, Jen,

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Speaker 2: thank you for being with us. This has brought so

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Speaker 2: much higher in scrutiny on the city that someone could

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Speaker 2: be stabbed literally in playing view on Main Street.

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Speaker 1: What happened?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? Well, I mean everything you just said is right, Nancy,

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Speaker 6: and it has brought so much added negative attention to

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Speaker 6: San Francisco and to this particular neighborhood in San Francisco.

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Speaker 1: Tell me about the neighborhood, because I don't know.

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Speaker 6: That well Mission you know, Main Street near Mission Street,

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Speaker 6: downtown exclusive. We're talking luxury apartment buildings, nice coffee shops, restaurants, stars.

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Speaker 6: San Francisco we all know, over the last few years

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Speaker 1: Okay, now wait a minute, Jen, guys with me. And

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Speaker 1: a lot of this case that we have.

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Speaker 2: Learned is because of exclusive footage and photos obtained idailymail

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Speaker 1: Tell me, well, I.

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Speaker 6: Think it's no secret that many major cities New York

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Speaker 6: since COVID, a lot of things have changed. So this attack,

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Speaker 6: a brutal attack in an area that was, like you described, beautiful,

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Speaker 6: nice part of town. It really brought added fear to

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Speaker 6: the community. You know, how could something like this happen

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Speaker 6: seemingly at random to an innocent father of two.

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Speaker 2: You know what's interesting about what Jensmith or Daily Mail

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Speaker 2: is saying. At first, I want to go to Jarrett Farentino,

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Speaker 2: homicide prosecutor out of Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 1: Jared, thank you so much for being with.

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Speaker 7: U's my pleasure.

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Speaker 2: It's I can't stay that why it's disturbing so many

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Speaker 2: But I think what's shocking everyone so much is it's

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Speaker 2: out of the norm. For instance, we say, oh, that's

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Speaker 2: a high crime area. My husband told me the other

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Speaker 2: day he was going to have a business lunch on

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Speaker 2: I'll think of it's a really funny krog KRG Krog Street.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, don't cancel that, don't go there, and you

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Speaker 2: go what is wrong with us? Said prosecuted so many

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Speaker 2: aggravated assaults and homicide rapes on Crog Street and the

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Speaker 2: Krog Street area of Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: Don't go there. That's crazy talk. Who set that up?

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Speaker 2: Well, since the time I prosecuted, it's been all gentrified.

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Speaker 2: There's all these cool coffee shops and restaurants. The point

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Speaker 2: is when we hear that a murder occurred in a

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Speaker 2: low or no crime area, everybody shocked. But crime is everywhere,

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Speaker 2: Jarrett Fiorentino. That's what people don't understand, including this fancy area,

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Speaker 2: high flute area of the city by the Bay.

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Speaker 7: It is everywhere. There's a tolerance, nancy for regions where

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Speaker 7: we call high crime areas, but it is always shocking

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Speaker 7: when you see something so violent and it's stabbing. Nonetheless,

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Speaker 7: this isn't a shooting. This is a very very close act,

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Speaker 7: a very violent act, multiple stabbings. It's intentional, and the

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Speaker 7: fear is that anyone in that community can now become

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Speaker 7: a victim. And that's why it's so shocking.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I liked everything you just said. I cannot even

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Speaker 2: argue with him. Okay, that part I don't like. But

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Speaker 2: what you just said to doctor John Delatory, joining us

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Speaker 2: licensed psychologist and mediator. He specializes in forensic psychology. You

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Speaker 2: can find him on TikTok At Doctor John, Doctor John.

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Speaker 2: What he just said about stabbing, and we talked about

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Speaker 2: this in depth with the slang of those four beautiful

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Speaker 2: vibrant University Idaho students.

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Speaker 1: Stabbing and I learned this as a prosecutor.

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Speaker 2: It's a whole different animal than shooting somebody at a

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Speaker 2: distance of even three feet five feet ten feet twenty

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Speaker 2: feet sniper shot job.

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Speaker 1: By shooting that is.

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Speaker 2: Impersonal, you're not up close and personal with your victim.

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Speaker 2: Stabbing is a whole different psychopathy.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, absolutely is. It's one of those things where it's

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Speaker 8: more intimate. Right, You get up close with someone and

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Speaker 8: you can feel the life draining out of them as

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Speaker 8: you continue to stab them. So this is someone who

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Speaker 8: has a very personal vendetta against the victim, that's willing

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Speaker 8: Because it's also physically exhausting, So you've got to be

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Speaker 8: determined to do this act.

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Speaker 2: And there were multiple stab wounds here, either two or three.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there was no way this guy was going

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Speaker 2: to walk away alive or brand joining me s you're

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Speaker 2: Curse of the Bluestone, and Flying Solo Top of the World,

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Speaker 2: both on Amazon. Flying Solo Top of the World awesome.

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Speaker 2: I haven't read Bluestone yet, but I'm going to IRV Brant.

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Speaker 2: What Jarrett Farentino just said that we quote tolerate crime

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Speaker 2: in high crime areas.

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Speaker 1: I don't tolerate crime anywhere. But we're not numb.

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Speaker 2: But we're not what shocked when we hear about a murder,

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Speaker 2: an agassault, a rape in a high crime area because

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Speaker 2: we are conditioned.

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Speaker 1: To believe that. But in a let me just say.

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Speaker 2: Fancy, influential, prestigious area like this, we are shot because

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Speaker 2: it never happens.

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Speaker 9: That's correct, Nancy. And just like the prosecutor said, and

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Speaker 9: I live in Las Vegas, and this sort of thing

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Speaker 9: happens on the Las Vegas Strip, people are stunt. It's

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Speaker 9: all over the news. If it happened on the West

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Speaker 9: like that, not so much. The news coverage wouldn't be

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Speaker 2: Okay, what about this, you're talking about Vegas or brand

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Speaker 2: That's correct, it's one thing. If somebody dies in the

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Speaker 2: area where there's hookers in drugs, that life is no

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Speaker 2: more or less important than if somebody stabbed in the

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Speaker 2: lobby of the very expensive Wind hotel. That's correct, but

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Speaker 2: we're more shocked because it is so rare in an

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Speaker 1: Is that what you're saying.

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Speaker 9: That's exactly what I'm saying. It's a wow factor. If

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Speaker 9: someone gets stabbed while they're watching the Fountain show in

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Speaker 9: front of the Blagio.

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Speaker 1: You mean, like in Ocean's eleven.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, that could have been me.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's psychology.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad you said that because I believe doctor John

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Speaker 2: Delatory and everybody jump in.

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Speaker 1: Do I have to tell you this.

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Speaker 2: Is not high tea at Windsor Castle with King Charles.

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Speaker 2: All right, jump in, let's brainstorm on this. It could

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Speaker 2: have been me factor. I think that's why when people

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Speaker 2: I noticed a lot during the Eliza Fletcher case. The

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Speaker 2: young teacher out of Memphis, she had two or three children,

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Speaker 2: a little, preschool aged children and younger. He went jogging

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Speaker 2: at four am and she was brutally attacked, raped and

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Speaker 2: murdered by a repeat offender that had an outstanding rape.

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Speaker 2: Everyone said, Oh, why was she out jogging at four am?

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Speaker 1: Why it's her fault? It was dark? Why was she out? Well,

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Speaker 2: And I think people say that not because they're ill

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Speaker 2: spirited or mean hearted. I think that they like to think, well,

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Speaker 2: that's never going to happen to me, and they continue

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Speaker 2: to feel safe.

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Speaker 1: Doctor delatory.

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Speaker 2: It makes them feel they can go through life feeling safe,

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Speaker 1: Fact that they're not safe. Just like this guy Bobbly

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Speaker 8: No, he wasn't safe, because it's the threat that you

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Speaker 8: are never taken into account. So in some ways it's

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Speaker 8: a threat that comes from someone in your inner circle,

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Speaker 10: There's a comfort.

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Speaker 8: Nature when it comes to routine, and so the more

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Speaker 2: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, It's all coming to a

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Speaker 2: I'm just imagining what Bob Lee. I mean, did he

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Speaker 2: Moment by moment, it's harder and harder, more difficult for

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Speaker 2: But you can't say things like one can only imagine

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Speaker 2: You can't say what if that was you, or what

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Speaker 7: Some things you don't have to say to a jury.

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Speaker 7: They're going to go there themselves, and you're going to say,

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Speaker 2: With this stabbing first occurred, there was so much media

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Speaker 2: Is it because it's an expensive area, because stabbings happen

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Speaker 3: The father of two, who had recently moved to Miami.

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Speaker 3: Was more than a tech icon, his wife saying, Bob

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Speaker 3: Lee was the most incredible and beautiful human being. He

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Speaker 9: It's gonna be.

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Speaker 8: Hard to imagine a world where you can't call Bob

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Speaker 8: He was an absolutely instrumental person in the tech industry.

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Speaker 3: This morning, the high profile murder of a tech pioneer

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Speaker 2: A visionary, a tech guru, and there's more. Take a

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Speaker 12: He's been described as that person that everyone wants to

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Speaker 1: So this is the guy that created cash app.

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Speaker 1: This is the guy that created that kind of like Venmo.

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Speaker 13: Lee had a successful career in tech as a founder

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Speaker 13: her condolences to Lee's friends and family who are trying

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Speaker 14: I can't imagine anyone targeting Bob. He was not a

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Speaker 1: Us out of Raleigh. You can find him at Ben

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Speaker 1: Levetan dot com. You know, Ben, I've admired you for

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Speaker 2: Because the way you think tech experts think differently than

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Speaker 1: It's a whole different mindset.

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Speaker 15: It's really thanks for that, Andrew. That's the best intro

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Speaker 15: That's why Apple's been so successful. It's very very simple.

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Speaker 2: this thing to attack Guru, a visionary note around the

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Speaker 2: world and a father of two, I might add take

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Speaker 2: a listen to our cud.

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Speaker 12: Just after two am Tuesday morning, Bob Lee called police.

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Speaker 12: He was near San Francisco's Bay Bridge. He reportedly yelled

447
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Speaker 12: into his phone, help someone stabbed me. Surveillance footage showed

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00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 12: Lee struggling to walk up a city street. He tried

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Speaker 12: to wave down a white cameray with its hazard lights on.

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Speaker 12: The camera drives away and Lee collapses on the ground.

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Speaker 12: Six minutes later, the police arrived and Lee is unconscious

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Speaker 12: and bleeding uncontrollably. Lee has been stabbed three times, once

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Speaker 12: in the hip and twice in the chest.

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Speaker 2: So now a mystery car emerges, a car that speeds

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Speaker 2: away when.

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Speaker 1: Lee circles back to it. Why, here's more from.

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Speaker 3: Our friends at NBC authorities, calling it a planned and

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Speaker 3: deliberate attack.

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Speaker 16: There is evidence regarding motive that has been located in

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Speaker 16: this case, but certainly we have to make sure that

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Speaker 16: we look at every avenue.

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Speaker 3: This video, obtained by the Dailymail dot Com, shows Lee

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Speaker 3: staggering away after the attack. Police later found a text

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Speaker 3: message from Kazar Moomenty on Lee's phone. Just wanted to

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Speaker 3: make sure you're doing okay because I know Nima came

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Speaker 3: way down hard on you and thank you for being

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Speaker 3: such a classy man handling it with class.

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Speaker 2: Love you Okay, Well, it looks like yet again Ben

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Speaker 2: Levitat is right.

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Speaker 1: The cops are combing through Lee's cell.

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Speaker 2: Phone crime stories with Nancy Grace, a suspected killer's glamorous

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Speaker 2: sister who was allegedly at sex parties with the cash

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Speaker 2: app founder Bob Lee before he was stabbed dead. The

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Speaker 2: sister taking center stage. How is that well? At the

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Speaker 2: middle millionaire cash app founder Bob Lee's murder trial is

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Speaker 2: the suspect the suspected killer's sister. She is a plastic

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Speaker 2: surgeon's wife who was reportedly involved in San Francisco's underground

478
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Speaker 2: party scene, which can often involve drugs and swinging sex.

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Speaker 2: What is wrong with witch p What is wrong with

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Speaker 2: rich people? Why can't they just go home, have dinner

481
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Speaker 2: and watch TV and count their money?

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Speaker 1: Whatever?

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00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 2: Kazar Iliosnia, thirty eight, was allegedly partying and sleeping with

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Speaker 2: Bob Lee when her brother, Nima Momini, stabbed Lee dead

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Speaker 2: on April fourth. Now, that night, Bob Lee was found

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Speaker 2: bleeding out begging for help in San Francisco to thirty

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Speaker 2: a m. Just a half an hour thirty minutes after

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Speaker 2: he was spotted leaving the sister kazar Iliosnia's really expensive

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Speaker 2: millennium tower home with brother Momini. Apparently the couple went

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Speaker 2: to such a party together the night of the murder.

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Speaker 2: Momini claims he was under the impression Lee had drugged

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Speaker 2: and raped his sister. Prosecutors argue, hmmm, is that motive

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Speaker 2: for murder? Momini, according to prosecutors, decided to get revenge

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Speaker 2: for his sister. Text messages have become the focus in

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Speaker 2: front of a jury. The glam sister Kazar calls her

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Speaker 2: own brother effing psychotic hours later in damning text messages. Now,

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Speaker 2: prosecutors argue these text messages are a key part of

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Speaker 2: the evidence that will prove Momini is guilty. I've murdered one.

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Speaker 2: Now to ramp up the drama in the courtroom even more,

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Speaker 2: Momini's lawyers, as I mentioned, tried to have Bob Lee's

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Speaker 2: ex Christa barred from the courtroom after she called the

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Speaker 2: Glam's sister Kazar the horror of high tower. That's a

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Speaker 2: reference to the apartment in a luxury high rise where

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Speaker 2: she lived.

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Speaker 1: Whatever irrelevant.

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Speaker 2: What matters is who stabbed Bobbly multimillionaire cash app founder

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Speaker 2: did he was now? He had moved to Miami. His

508
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 2: two children, his two little girls were there. His ex

509
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 2: wife's there. They're raising the children together. His father very

510
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 2: very close relationship with the father who also moves to

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Speaker 2: Miami to be with Bob Lee. He comes back to

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Speaker 2: San Francisco for a TIC conference.

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Speaker 6: Right, Yeah, all of that is exactly right. He lived

514
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Speaker 6: in the Bay Area, a suburb Actulega, north of San

515
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 6: Francisco for some time, and then late last year, I

516
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Speaker 6: think it was the fall of twenty twenty two, Bobbly

517
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Speaker 6: moved his whole family to Miami. That's including his ex

518
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Speaker 6: wife and his father.

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Speaker 2: Ben Levitan, telecommunications expert, joining us out of Raleigh. Ben,

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00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 2: we learned that in this very ritzy area there are

521
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Speaker 2: cams everywhere, surveillance cameras, rings, all sorts of surveillance, and

522
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 2: that is how we get some of the video we

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Speaker 2: see of him staggering around for help as he's bleeding out.

524
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Speaker 2: But you say, texts and pinging and following the trail

525
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Speaker 2: of where he was that night went out on the

526
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Speaker 2: town at the end of the day after the conference

527
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 2: let out, can give us so much more information. Now,

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Speaker 2: I want to ask you about surveillance video cams. Do

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Speaker 2: they still tape over themselves like at the end of

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Speaker 2: seventy two hours like they did in the Chandra Levy case.

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Speaker 15: It depends on how much you're spending on this technology.

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Speaker 9: A lot of them do overright.

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Speaker 15: But memory is so cheap nowadays, and if you're just

534
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Speaker 15: recording low resolution like what we saw in the Daily

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Speaker 15: Mail video, that's very low resolution. You could keep that

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Speaker 15: for years. But you know what's critical, the twenty four

537
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 15: hours prime and everybody's going to have. But there's so

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Speaker 15: much more than video. Every time you walk around with

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Speaker 15: your phone, you're leaving digital footprints all over the place.

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Speaker 15: So certainly in that office lobby, they know everybody who

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Speaker 15: came near that building. So those would be perpetrators, those

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Speaker 15: would be suspects, and those would be with potential witnesses.

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Speaker 15: Digital evidence gives us three things. Who was at this,

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Speaker 15: who is at the scene, and those are potential suspects. Yes,

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Speaker 15: those are potential witnesses, and that's the most important thing.

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Speaker 15: People may have walked by and didn't even know what

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Speaker 15: was going on. Someone may have seen someone running away

548
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 15: from Bob Lee and thought nothing of it, and when

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Speaker 15: the police pull up their footprint, they say yes.

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Speaker 2: And you know what, bean Leamontaine, we really see this

551
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 2: kind of evidence come to the forefront and the Idaho

552
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 2: student slaying because the prime Brian Coburger's phone shows him

553
00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 2: in the area repeatedly and then the night of the murders,

554
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,760
Speaker 2: he conveniently turns off or puts into airplane motors phone

555
00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 2: and then it picks up right after the murders around

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Speaker 2: four thirty AM, leaving the crime scene, and you can

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Speaker 2: follow his trail. So Belevitan telecommunications expert is right now

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Speaker 2: looking at the.

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Speaker 1: Victim, Bob Lee's texts and messages.

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Speaker 2: A name emerges and boy does it take a listen

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Speaker 2: hour cut EIGHTCBS.

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Speaker 17: These haunting security camera images posted by London's Daily Mail

563
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Speaker 17: show the final moments of bob Le's life, and tonight

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Speaker 17: police say that brutal stabbing was not a random attack.

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Speaker 5: We can confirm that mister Lee and miss Simomenti knew

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Speaker 5: each other.

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Speaker 17: San Francisco's police chief says thirty eight year old Nima Momeni,

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Speaker 17: who owns a tech company, was arrested this morning in

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Speaker 17: the suburb of Emeryville and booked on one charge of murder.

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Speaker 17: Officers confronted him with bullhorns. Law enforcement did not give

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Speaker 17: details or a motive for the killing.

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Speaker 2: Hold on Nima Momeni, a tech company owner, Well, that's.

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Speaker 1: A bunch of bes, you know, a bunch of bs.

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Speaker 1: Jared Fiorentino homicide prosecutor.

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Speaker 2: That's a technical legal term, but there's really no other

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Speaker 2: way to put it. I mean, I don't think they

577
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Speaker 2: have a Latin phrase for that. Lawyers can throw around

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Speaker 2: in the courtroom. But Jen Smith, he's not a successful

579
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Speaker 2: tech owner. Didn't he lie about graduating from Berkeley? I'm

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Speaker 2: talking about Momiani, He sure did.

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Speaker 6: He would love the world to think, or at one stage,

582
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Speaker 6: he would have loved the world to think that he

583
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Speaker 6: was this high flying tech executive. We're not talking about

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Speaker 6: the kind of success that Bobbly enjoyed though. That's not

585
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Speaker 6: had a small shop.

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Speaker 1: He worked out of his apartment.

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Speaker 6: He worked out of his apartment. That's correct. He has

588
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Speaker 6: an IT domain name. I would say at best, that's

589
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Speaker 6: about this far that goes at the moment. That's what

590
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 6: we know. Anyway, he had lied about his college education.

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Speaker 10: He said he went to Berkeley.

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Speaker 6: Berkeley says he did not. And really the rest of

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Speaker 6: his life is somewhat of a mystery. But like you say,

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Speaker 6: he was working out of his apartment in Emeryville, which

595
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 6: is but five miles from where the attack took place.

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Speaker 2: And there's nothing wrong with working out of your apartment.

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00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 1: Or home.

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00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 2: Many people do it, especially since COVID. But to lie

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00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 2: about it? Doctor John Delatory joining US psychologists and mediator

600
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Speaker 2: specializing in forensic psychology.

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Speaker 1: Why do people have to lie about it? Who cares?

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Speaker 2: If you work out of your place you're loft, Nobody cares?

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00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,919
Speaker 2: But why lie about it? Nobody cares where you went

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00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 2: to college? Great, they may care for a minute when

605
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 2: you're trying to get your first job, but then after that,

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Speaker 2: why lie about it?

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Speaker 1: Doctor Delatory?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, because you have a high impression manager. Just because

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00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 8: the world doesn't look at you as being somewhat important,

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00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 8: that doesn't mean that you don't view the world as.

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Speaker 9: Needing you to be important.

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Speaker 8: So of course you're gonna lie, and of course you're

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Speaker 8: gonna embellish if you believe that the world is going

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Speaker 8: to judge you in ways you don't want to be judged.

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Speaker 2: You know, I came off of red dirt road, drinking

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Speaker 2: well water. I don't know how somebody like me managed

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Speaker 2: to worm my way into Valdosta College and then Mercy

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Speaker 2: University and then NYU. It's a miracle. I've always been

619
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Speaker 2: amazed at people that lie about everything to do with

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Speaker 2: their background. But there's more at play here. Take a

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Speaker 2: listen now our cut seven. This is Brooke Jenkins, and

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Speaker 2: remember the da has endeared a real hailstorm because of

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Speaker 2: the crime in this area. This wants wonderful, beautiful area.

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Speaker 2: It's now home. It's drenched in crime. And I don't

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00:37:56,320 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 2: know why the mayor is bragging and crowing. Hey, this

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00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 2: wasn't a homeless person that committed the crime, Lady. They

627
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 2: committed a crime on Main Street and nobody would help

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Speaker 2: this guy. It's crime ridden. Listen to this.

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Speaker 16: While in some cases we do immediately have a suspect

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Speaker 16: that was not the situation.

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Speaker 1: Here, as a result of their hard work.

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Speaker 16: Mister Lee's killer has been identified, arrested, and now will

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Speaker 16: be brought to justice. I am here today to formally

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Speaker 16: announce the charges against mister Nima Momeni for the murder

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Speaker 16: of Bob Lee. The specific charges that we are filing

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Speaker 16: today include murder in violation of Penal Code Section one

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Speaker 16: eighty seven, as well as a special allegation also known

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Speaker 16: as an enhancement, alleging that this murder was committed with

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Speaker 16: a knife.

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Speaker 2: I wonder why it's an enhancement if anybody on the

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Speaker 2: panel knows, Unless they're trying to curb knife violence. And

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Speaker 2: speaking of knives, Jen Smith, Teeth investigative reporter, dailymail dot Com,

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Speaker 2: this guy Momenti has a history with knives. Explain that

644
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 2: little matter regarding a switch blade.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he sure does. We know know that. In two

646
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Speaker 6: thousand and eleven, Nima Momenti was charged with attacking a

647
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Speaker 6: woman with a switch blade. And we see this came

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Speaker 6: to light after his arrest in the ball Blee case.

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Speaker 6: I know, speaking of the knife in this case, fancy,

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Speaker 6: we're not talking about a switch blade. We're talking about

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Speaker 6: kitchen knife, a large one. That is what police day

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Speaker 6: he used to attack ball Bleade.

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Speaker 1: Kitchen knife.

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Speaker 2: But he before that had a history of trying to

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Speaker 2: sell an illegal switchblade.

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Speaker 1: Is that correct?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's absolutely right. This guy has a long history

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Speaker 6: with violence, clearly specifically associated with Knight.

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Speaker 2: Well, the evidence is largely electronic, and being Levitan is

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Speaker 2: right about that. And I know, Jarrett Farantino, you love

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Speaker 2: electronic evidence, digital evidence, because it doesn't lie.

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Speaker 1: An I witness may have had bad.

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Speaker 2: Vision and left the glasses at home, not so a

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Speaker 2: digital information. Take listen now we're cutting nine from our

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Speaker 2: friends at NBC.

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Speaker 3: The moments before, during, and after the murder of Bob

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Speaker 3: Lee were recorded on surveillance cameras and help detectives track

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Speaker 3: down their suspect. According to court documents, the tech Titans

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Speaker 3: relationship with this woman, Becauzar Momenti may have been the

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Speaker 3: reason her brother Nima Momeni killed the forty three year old.

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Speaker 3: Is mister Lee's relationship with the suspect's sister a major

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Speaker 3: part of this case.

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Speaker 16: His relationship with the suspects sister is certainly the connection

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Speaker 16: it appears between the two and so that is something

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Speaker 16: that's very important to this investigation.

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Speaker 2: In a Nutsheale Gentsmith A forty run out of time,

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Speaker 2: Why would Mamini kill Bob Lee over Mamini's sister. She's

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Speaker 2: married to a very successful, well known plastic surgeon in

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Speaker 2: that area.

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Speaker 6: Well, it's all now emerging. The friends who are close

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Speaker 6: to baub Lee, Kauzarmameny, the glamorous sister, they believed that

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Speaker 6: the pair were having a romantic relationship. And it gets

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Speaker 6: darker than that. There is a suggestion that Kauzarmahmeni was

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Speaker 6: using drugs. She had a drug problem that she was hiding.

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Speaker 1: You mean the sister the sister Cauzarmuhmeny.

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Speaker 6: Yes, the sister. There is a suggestion that she had

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Speaker 6: a drug problem, she was hiding from her husband, and

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Speaker 6: that she was perhaps artying with Lee on the day

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Speaker 6: before the murder. Her brother, Nina, older than her, didn't

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Speaker 6: like obviously that she was engaging in this type of behavior. He,

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Speaker 6: we know, questioned Bob Lee about it hours before the stabbing.

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Speaker 6: He wanted to know the extent of their relationship, and

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Speaker 6: he wanted to know from Lee whether or not his

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Speaker 6: sister had been getting into anything that wasn't exactly proper,

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Speaker 6: should we say. Bob ly assures Nima Mumeni that his

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Speaker 6: sister Kazar, this woman that he is apparently having an

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Speaker 6: affair with, was not using drugs, that everything was trying.

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Speaker 6: That speaks to the text message that was discovered on

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Speaker 6: Bobby's phone from the sister. What happens after that, Nanci,

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Speaker 6: We're not exactly sure, but clearly it set Nima Momenti's

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Speaker 6: brother into a very violent rage.

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Speaker 2: Jarrett Fiorentino, homicide Prosecutor of Pennsylvania Number one. The state

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Speaker 2: never ever has to prove the motive under the law.

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Speaker 2: It's a practical matter. The jury wants to hear what

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Speaker 2: the motive would be. And I'm very curious about this

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Speaker 2: whole the way this whole thing went down, because Jarrett Ferentino,

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Speaker 2: it doesn't wash with me that these two had been

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Speaker 2: going to restaurants and bars or whatever since the tech

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Speaker 2: conference got out that day, you know, hitting the town

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Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, Momoni gets mad and

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Speaker 2: stabs him dead.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't quite ring true to me.

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Speaker 7: Well, if you what's shaping up here is that it's

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Speaker 7: looking like he was playing the role of the protective

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Speaker 7: big brother. The speculation is that Lee may have been

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Speaker 7: involved in procuring some kind of narcotics for Tina is

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Speaker 7: her nickname, Nima's sister, and that may be what triggered him.

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Speaker 7: When he discovered that Lee had been involved in procuring

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Speaker 7: narcotics for Tina and he's playing the big brother. They

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Speaker 7: get into an argument, they being Nima and Bob, and

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Speaker 7: the stabbing ensues. But like you said, the fact that

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Speaker 7: they're out on the town having dinner, traveling in the

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Speaker 7: same social circles over the course of that evening doesn't

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Speaker 7: necessarily jive with it exploding into a violent conflict.

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Speaker 1: You know, the old phrase Jerif Farantina. Sticks and stones

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Speaker 1: can break my bones, but words can never hurt me.

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Speaker 2: The reality is, I don't care what they argued about.

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Speaker 2: I don't care what Mamini thought. He stabbed this guy,

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Speaker 2: an unarmed victim, dead, and left him to stagger around

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Speaker 2: this exclusive area to die, begging.

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Speaker 1: For help from a car and passers by. Nobody would

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Speaker 1: help him.

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Speaker 2: He knew he was dying, he was spitting up blood.

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Speaker 2: I don't care what they talked about. This is murder,

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Speaker 2: and it's murder one. What else do we know about

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Speaker 2: the so called Glam's sister, now at the middle of

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Speaker 2: a murder trial. Well, apparently she's been married to a

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Speaker 2: high profile plastic surgeon, very prominent who specializes in those jobs. Okay,

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Speaker 2: his name all across magazines for years, always talking glowingly

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Speaker 2: about his marriage and his wife. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: he knew she allegedly was attending drug and sex parties

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Speaker 2: that has not been proven. Those are just allegations, possibly

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Speaker 2: even a way to smear the woman. I don't know,

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Speaker 2: But what I do know is Bob Lee was stabbed dead.

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Speaker 1: Eight as justice unfals. Goodbye friend,