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Speaker 1: Welcome to The Favorites, the podcast from the Volume Podcast Network.

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Speaker 1: I am Chad Milman, Chief Content Officer of the Action Network.

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Speaker 1: Big Big Show. We're talking NFL free agency. We got

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson stuff to discuss, Daniel Jones signing to discuss.

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Speaker 1: We are going to bring them possibly someone who holds

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Speaker 1: both ventricles in my heart. He is my nemesis and

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Speaker 1: yet I love him like a brother. Chris Raybunds coming

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Speaker 1: on the show in a little bit. But before we

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Speaker 1: get to that, I gotta bring on my bff, my companion,

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Speaker 1: MIKEA and Padre professional Better Simon Hunter. Hello, Swiman, How

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Speaker 1: you feeling, buddy at doing good? Brother? Saw a couple

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Speaker 1: of whales yesterday from the beach. Life is good here

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Speaker 1: in Hawaii. Oh did you really? Yeah? Humpbacks baby like

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Speaker 1: So apparently that's why they come to Hawaii to have

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Speaker 1: humpback whale. It is born at fifteen feet three thousand

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Speaker 1: So it's been pretty cool. If that baby humpback whale

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Speaker 1: lived in New York, every other parent would be looked

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Speaker 1: be fifteen feet and three thousand pounds. That's what would happen.

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Speaker 1: That's true. I really enjoyed our podcast with Michael Lasker

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Speaker 1: on the other day about the oscars. I got a

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Speaker 1: everywhere all at once for best Picture, and because I

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Speaker 1: I can't see him leaving. It doesn't make sense that

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Speaker 1: That happened two days ago. So you know, I'm Chris

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Speaker 1: by the same spot. This is the time of year.

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Speaker 1: I have my alerts turned on for a lot of people,

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Speaker 1: and like Schefter makes my hard drop. Like right before

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Speaker 1: we came on, Chefter tweets out trade Jets agreed to

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Speaker 1: send and it's like, oh my god. When you read

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Speaker 1: the rest of it's a seventh round pick for Chuck Clark,

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Speaker 1: the safety. So it's been tough where like I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: waiting for the shooter drop because I've talked to a

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Speaker 1: bunch of people that are good sources. I know something

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Speaker 1: that's really close to Rodgers. He's in his camp. It

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Speaker 1: does seem like they want to see what they got

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Speaker 1: in Jordan Love and they're kind of over the whole

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Speaker 1: Rodgers experience. Right, So in the back of my mind,

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Speaker 1: I actually thought he was gonna go back to Green Bay,

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Speaker 1: And now talking enough people, it seems like after his

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Speaker 1: little trip into the darkness. He's come out and he's

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Speaker 1: kind of wants to get out of Green Bay. He

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Speaker 1: wants to move on. It seems like I think we

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Speaker 1: all could agree here that Jets feels like the best

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Speaker 1: spot for him to go because there's such a complete team.

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Speaker 1: Now on the gambling side, if you were taking the

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Speaker 1: Jets now sixteen to one, that is a horrible bet.

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Speaker 1: That's a horrible bet. And AFC that, yes, it's so

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Speaker 1: tough again, it'd be completely different that this is an NFC.

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Speaker 1: But the AFC, that's to me, that's a bad bet.

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Speaker 1: So I think it's interesting so many people are running

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Speaker 1: to the window to get the Jets at you know,

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Speaker 1: there were twenty five to one, they were at twenty

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Speaker 1: to one, and make this bet on this Jets team.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Matt Mitchell knows that it all still runs

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Speaker 1: through Buffalo. So as much I want to get on

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Speaker 1: the Jets hype train, it feels like this is kind

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Speaker 1: of like the Russell wilsonthing from last year. Chat of

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Speaker 1: it's been hyped up too much, numbers been bet up

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Speaker 1: too much. Me and you aren't gonna touch. I know

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Speaker 1: that Chris is gonna touch. The value is all gone

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Speaker 1: So if you're one of these people that you made

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Speaker 1: that bet on the Jets, you better hope he goes

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Speaker 1: there or else you have a dead ticket like this.

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Speaker 1: This has no value if it's Jimmy Gropp anywhere else.

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Speaker 1: So I'm mentued to hear Chris's view on this, But

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Speaker 1: for me, I'm not really doing anything with this anymore. Now,

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Speaker 1: just sit back and win hear what happens here. But

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Speaker 1: to me, all the values gone with betting the Jets. This, Like,

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Speaker 1: let's just shut this shit down in numbers, Like fucking like,

471
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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna shut this shit down in numbers right now.

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers just two MVP years, he led the league

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Speaker 1: in QBR seventy nine point eight sixty nine point one.

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Speaker 1: Those are his two qbrs in his twenty twenty and

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one season. Last year, his QBR went from

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Speaker 1: sixty nine to one two years ago to thirty nine

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Speaker 1: point three, lowest of his career. You want to hear

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Speaker 1: the rest of the Jets quarterbacks qbrs last year, remember

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Speaker 1: Rodgers is thirty nine point three, Zach Wilson thirty six

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Speaker 1: point four, Joe Flacco thirty four point two, Mike White

481
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Speaker 1: thirty six point nine. Get this shit out of here.

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Speaker 1: Rogers ain't moving a needle at all. He's washed. He's done. Bro, Bro,

483
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Speaker 1: this dude, this dude had to go to a dark

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Speaker 1: room just to de stide. If you wanted to play

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Speaker 1: football again, this will not end well Like this looks

486
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Speaker 1: like well, we started with Russ a couple of years

487
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Speaker 1: ago where it was like he was falling off and

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Speaker 1: then he goes to someplace and everyone's like, oh, it'll

489
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Speaker 1: be it will be fixed again, and it was. It's

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Speaker 1: like Rodgers looked like he was falling off like five

491
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Speaker 1: years ago, came back, had like a resurgence. Okay, cool,

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Speaker 1: but now he's clearly he's clearly like his arm isn't

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Speaker 1: as strong. He's make his prone picks, which he never did,

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Speaker 1: like he I just you know it, just he could move.

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Speaker 1: He's he's gonna be better than what the Jets had.

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Speaker 1: He does he make him a Super Bowl contender. In

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Speaker 1: my opinion, I don't think he loves the needle of

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Speaker 1: his mint because I just don't think this is the

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Speaker 1: same Aaron Rodgers that we were getting even two years ago.

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Speaker 1: And even if he does, like when it like when

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Speaker 1: is Aaron Rodgers put gotten to the super Bowl since

502
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Speaker 1: you know, whenever he won his his one ring, like

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Speaker 1: every year he goes to the playoffs and gets upset,

504
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Speaker 1: usually at home. So really he's making the Jets of

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl contender with a QBR three points higher than

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Speaker 1: Zach Wilson. Get the funk out of here. Yeah, that's raider. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: For I would say in I think it was twenty eighteen,

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Speaker 1: two nineteen, you wrote so many columns that proved Aaron

509
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Speaker 1: Rodgers was on a downward slope in his career, and

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Speaker 1: then he has these two amazing seasons back to back

511
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Speaker 1: MVPs and then falls off a cliff again. Are you

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Speaker 1: able to identify what happened that made him so special

513
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Speaker 1: in those two years? Was it Matt Lafleur running a

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Speaker 1: different game plan? Was it Aaron Rodgers listening to Matt

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Speaker 1: Laflour and last year he didn't like what what have

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Speaker 1: you seen in any analysis that you've done? So I

517
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Speaker 1: think I think it did come down to game plan

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Speaker 1: and oh coaching because McCartney, you know, he was with

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Speaker 1: him his whole career, so that like really so we

520
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Speaker 1: didn't really have too much of a uh you know,

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Speaker 1: like a context perspective, I guess you could say. So

522
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Speaker 1: then it's like, okay, because even his first Lafloor year

523
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Speaker 1: it wasn't great, but he started to pick up the offense.

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Speaker 1: But now now he's legitimately old, and if he does

525
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Speaker 1: and like let's say you're talking about this year spread

526
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Speaker 1: the jets right, well, Rogers wasn't amazing in that first Lafloria.

527
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Speaker 1: It was the second and third that he was amazing it.

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Speaker 1: So even if you're talking about it, I still think

529
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Speaker 1: it would take some time, you know, go to a

530
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Speaker 1: new spot this and that, so you know, I really don't.

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Speaker 1: And now he is though, So now whatever we thought

532
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Speaker 1: perhaps could have been a physical decline a couple of

533
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Speaker 1: years ago, three to three four years ago, now I

534
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Speaker 1: think it's real just from watching him play. Because the

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Speaker 1: one thing about it, at least you could say the

536
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Speaker 1: last time was that he wasn't really he was. He

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Speaker 1: was careful, he wasn't missing throws, he wasn't throwing picks

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Speaker 1: and committing turnovers. That changed this year and that's that's

539
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Speaker 1: to me the biggest red flag, and again the QBRS

540
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Speaker 1: for in those years where he looked like he was

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Speaker 1: declining they were still you know, in the in the fifties,

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Speaker 1: you know, fifty A, fifty two. This is thirty nine

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Speaker 1: point one. This is a career though, Like this is

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Speaker 1: we're in a whole different tier of sucking or not

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Speaker 1: playing enough to potential for Aaron Rodgers now. So you know,

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Speaker 1: Foomy one, same on you. But I just don't think

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Speaker 1: I just don't think it's realistic to expect him like

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Speaker 1: as an example? I mean, it'd be great. I'd be

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Speaker 1: happy for Carolina, but no, it doesn't move the media

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Speaker 1: for me. We talk all the time, Chah. There's literally

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Speaker 1: and watch, especially in the MC championship game when they

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Speaker 1: The Panthers they don't need a game manager, they need

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Speaker 1: a game changer. Like they have a lot of good talent.

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Speaker 1: But compared to the forty nine ers, compared to the Rams,

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Speaker 1: compared to the Eagles, Cowboys, even I just don't think

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Speaker 1: the Panthers on the same level. So nothing like even

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Speaker 1: Derek Carr, like you just talked about. I might take

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Speaker 1: put some money on Derek car right now to win

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Speaker 1: that division because he's the best quarterback in that division

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Speaker 1: right now, but the same Super Bowl futures. No, Like,

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Speaker 1: I'm not putting any money on that. So I don't

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Speaker 1: know about Chris, But none of these moves have really

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Speaker 1: done anything for me. It's not I mean, that's normally

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Speaker 1: how it is in the off season. That's why Tom

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Speaker 1: lit Lamar that would be the most crazy movement in

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Speaker 1: earth shattering movement because I'm on the right team. That's

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Speaker 1: a big deal. That moves the odds to me. All

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Speaker 1: these other guys not really chat. They don't really do

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Speaker 1: much for me. Yeah, it's you know, what's a needle

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Speaker 1: We're talking about free agent quarterbacks and so that's just

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Speaker 1: not going to move the needle. It's not to say

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Speaker 1: that a team that has signed one of these couldn't

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Speaker 1: end up making a run, but in terms of like

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Speaker 1: are we projecting that now, is that moving the needle,

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Speaker 1: so to speak, not in my opinion, because I think

639
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Speaker 1: the real noodle movers are, you know, having Joe Burrow

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00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: on a rookie deal, having Josh Outen on a rookie deal,

641
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: things like that, or having you know, Patrick Mahomes who

642
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: is just amazing. You know, the Rams kind of did it.

643
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 1: You know, they they kind of spoiled us. I think

644
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,120
Speaker 1: because they they had like the perfect storm. They got Stafford,

645
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: who I think is better than the quarterbacks out there

646
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:29,400
Speaker 1: this time. I think Stafford will go down as having

647
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 1: played at a higher level during the Rams Super Bowl year.

648
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: Then Aaron Rodgers will play this year wherever he goes.

649
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: So I just think that between the quality of the

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Speaker 1: quarterback and the fact that you are having to tie

651
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: up significant cap space in these quarterbacks, I don't think

652
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: they're needle movers. Well, look, I think you're that's a

653
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 1: really good point about quarterbacks and a rookie deal. We

654
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: got spoiled not just by Stafford but by Brady because

655
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:02,240
Speaker 1: we had two seasons in a row where veteran quarterbacks

656
00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: change teams. People made money on futures markets by projecting

657
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,520
Speaker 1: where they were going to go. But you're one hundred

658
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: percent right. You got to look at the teams that

659
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 1: have quarterbacks on the ascent, that are on rookie deals

660
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 1: and have good rosters around them. That's where you're going

661
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: to make your money in the futures market right now.

662
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: And to me, that would eliminate the New York Football

663
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: Giants from this conversation potentially for the next five years.

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Speaker 1: Because I'm signing Daniel Jones. It's not a needle mover.

665
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 1: It's when you start looking at the free agent market,

666
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: you kind of you do understand why the Giants went

667
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: with Jones and just gave him the money. At least

668
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 1: he runs, that's about the only good thing. But he's

669
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 1: not a needle mover. I think the Giants actually do

670
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: have more upside than some of those other teams because

671
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: I think they I think their coaching staff and front

672
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: office has already proven that they can do more with less.

673
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,560
Speaker 1: So if if there is any team that I'm saying, Okay, now,

674
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 1: what are you gonna do with with this guy who's

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00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: it's still not you're not playing him top flight quarterback money.

676
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,839
Speaker 1: You know that market always is exploding more and more,

677
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 1: but you know, okay, what can you do with with

678
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 1: this kind of thing, with this kind of roster. I mean,

679
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: there is some upside there, but remember when Gabo was

680
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 1: in Buffalo, you know, you still had Josh on a

681
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 1: rookie deal. So, um, yeah, it's kind of it's the

682
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: same thing. It's it's it's just there's gonna be a

683
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 1: lot of teams that are gonna be very tempting to us,

684
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 1: you know, and everyone's gonna make a case for one

685
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 1: or the other. It is that at the end of

686
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 1: the day, it's gonna be it's gonna be either teams

687
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 1: with the super because remember Brady was a super elite

688
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: quarterback too. It's not just it's not just the Buck

689
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:49,879
Speaker 1: sign or you acquired Brady. It was Brady's goat, right,

690
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 1: So none of these dudes are to go Aaron Rodgers.

691
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 1: You know he has that upside, but you know, I

692
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 1: just I don't see it for him. And then yeah,

693
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, it's just to very it just puts you

694
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:04,879
Speaker 1: in that purgatory, uh. In my opinion, Um, and you're

695
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 1: gonna see teams it's probably gonna be one of these

696
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,720
Speaker 1: teams that draft one of these quarterbacks. To be honest,

697
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: in the in the in the draft. You know there's

698
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,879
Speaker 1: a few quarterbacks, you know, three quarterbacks I think that

699
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 1: you know, people feel could be legit and you know,

700
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 1: maybe four and it's probably gonna be one of those

701
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: teams that that are gonna just jump all these teams

702
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 1: that we're talking about right now. Um. Or maybe it's

703
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 1: the Bears, you know, your your Bears, Chad, you know,

704
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: with with the most cap space in the league, sitting

705
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 1: on that number one pick, with a quarterback that on

706
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: his rookie deal that you could probably build with. Well,

707
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: that's the Daniel Jones. Go ahead, Well, go ahead, Simon,

708
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: because I got a question. I lets say Daniel Jones

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00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 1: is Asian and that that guy I'm up with the

710
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: ru mdp UM. I did not see him getting anything

711
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 1: close to this number, just for the simple fact of

712
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: you know, Daniel Jones. Yes he can run the ball,

713
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 1: and yeah he had no bar receivers, but we also

714
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 1: have a lot of film on him for these class

715
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,720
Speaker 1: couple of years. And he did take a major step

716
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 1: this year and they didn't make the playoffs, and that's

717
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,959
Speaker 1: all great, but has to do with you know, they're

718
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:03,400
Speaker 1: gonna be able to build a good team around him

719
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: because they had him on a cheap deal. Yep. Now

720
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 1: that's kind of out the window where it reminds me

721
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: the Tannahil situation, Like Tennessee had to pay Tannehill, then

722
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:12,879
Speaker 1: they had to let a j. Brown walk. Now they're

723
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,399
Speaker 1: looking to move Derek Henry. It's like all of sudden

724
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 1: that money starts getting really tight when you pay your

725
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 1: quarterback down amount of money. This ain't non my home scenario, right,

726
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 1: my homes in the Unicorn. I just I know the

727
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 1: cap spaces that moves up and anything like that. And

728
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 1: that's why they're able to give more money here to

729
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. But just an incredible negotiation by whoever his

730
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 1: aging is. I can't believe he's able to get this

731
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:38,280
Speaker 1: amount of money. But as an Eagles fan, I'm a static,

732
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: like I'm very happy they're paying this man this amount

733
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 1: of money because to me, I feel like Chris is

734
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 1: nail on the head. The move would have been you

735
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: trade him for some assets and you just draft some

736
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: guy this year, because that's how much that rookie pay

737
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:52,359
Speaker 1: scale really factored into a mean Chad. We talk every

738
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 1: offseason like we make these crazy bets like the Jaguars

739
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: last year. Why do we make that bet because they're

740
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,080
Speaker 1: paying nothing to Trevor Lawrence and they can go on

741
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 1: sign all these receivers and again Calvin Ridley this year,

742
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 1: that's gonna be on this team with the Shaguar teams,

743
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,399
Speaker 1: they can make that move because they're not paying Trevor

744
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 1: Lawrence that much money. So as much as I am

745
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: all about the players getting their money, like I'm happy

746
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,479
Speaker 1: for Daniel Jones getting his money, that hurt the team,

747
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: Like that's gonna hurt the Giants all signed players to

748
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: put around him. So um yeah, I I disagree with

749
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: it at his basis, But what else were they really

750
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 1: supposed to do? Like to me, they didn't really have

751
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: them any options. He fits their scheme the best. Their

752
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 1: head coach clearly likes the kid. He's one that stuck

753
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 1: up for him and said, yeah, let's pay the kid.

754
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: I think I can win with him. So we know it.

755
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 1: As NFL coaches, they tie themselves in these qbs. So

756
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 1: if Dabo says this guy's legit, I'm gonna believe it

757
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 1: because I think he's one of the best coaches in

758
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 1: the league. So I can't as much I want to

759
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,800
Speaker 1: shoot on the money and not much to paying them.

760
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 1: You know, the Giants are a good, well run organization,

761
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 1: like they know what they're doing, so I'm gonna trust

762
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: them and say they're probably making a smart move here.

763
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 1: But outside looking and I'm like, this is a completely disaster.

764
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 1: So I'm interesting, are you view a chet well? I

765
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,359
Speaker 1: thought it was crazy, Like I'm not a fan of

766
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 1: a guy has one good year in a situation in

767
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 1: which there's an entirely new system, so people are still

768
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 1: trying to figure it out. And day Ball is a

769
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 1: really good coach. But things went perfect, almost perfect for

770
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,879
Speaker 1: the Giants. They won every coin flip game. They won

771
00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 1: every coin flip game. Everything went the right way. Part

772
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 1: of that is day Ball, good coaching, good strategic decision making,

773
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: sae Quon Barkley basically being healthy. They had no receivers,

774
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: which makes it even more interesting. But it's like they

775
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: did what they had to do to put themselves in

776
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: a position to succeed and give them the flexibility as

777
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 1: much as their panem because you do this deal and

778
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:58,480
Speaker 1: then you can franchise Quon instead of franchising Jones and

779
00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 1: then losing sa Quan. So I understand why they did it.

780
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: Here's my question go ahead, Raybond, you want to say something,

781
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say the one gamble I think

782
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 1: they're making because I you know, on the surface, pay

783
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,320
Speaker 1: that money to Jones, you could be with that coaching staff,

784
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: with with the ability if they have, as Simon said,

785
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 1: well we're an organization, you could kind of do it

786
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 1: the Giants did this year. You could get to the playerfs,

787
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: you could get into you could win a game, but

788
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: you're gonna run into a team like the Eagles. But

789
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: the one bet I think I'm guessing the Giants are

790
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,440
Speaker 1: making when they signed his deal was that the Eagles

791
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 1: are gonna have to pay jane On Hurts pretty soon.

792
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 1: He's gonna command like two hundred and fifty mill. Now

793
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,800
Speaker 1: the playing field is leveled a little more. Now you're saying, okay,

794
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 1: we might just have a leg up on building a team,

795
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 1: because like, look at the Eagles, it's like, oh, they

796
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 1: might lose Bradberd, they might lose a Gardner, you know,

797
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 1: like their team is going to start to break up

798
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 1: a little bit. So I think that's kind of the

799
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: bet the Giants are making that if we can pay

800
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:52,399
Speaker 1: a quarterback, you know, maybe like thirty percent less than

801
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: the Eagles are. Now we have a fighting chance to

802
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 1: build a roster that at least can compete because the

803
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 1: NFC's always wide open every year, like every year, and

804
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: now that Rogers is leaven, you know, it's even I

805
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 1: would guess, I would say, and Brady too, it's even

806
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 1: more wide over. So I think that's the bet the

807
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 1: Giants are making, so that I'm glad you raised that

808
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 1: because the question I wanted to ask was, we're all

809
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 1: NFC fans, if you could choose one team from each

810
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 1: division most likely to win the Super Bowl in the

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00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: next five years, and the NFC East is going to

812
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 1: be a challenge given what Raybon just said and the

813
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,439
Speaker 1: Eagles having a lot of cap challenges coming up, who

814
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 1: is the team you choose from each division? With that

815
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 1: you would bet on you have to make a bet

816
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 1: on each one of these teams to win the Super

817
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 1: Bowl in the next five years? Who do you choose

818
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 1: from each division? I knew who I'm choosing. I'm choosing

819
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 1: the Bears, I'm choosing the I think I'm taking the Giants,

820
00:40:55,520 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 1: I think I'm taking the Panther, and I think I'm

821
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 1: taking the Niners. Simon, who are you taking Um, I

822
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 1: would definitely go Eagles. I think they're they got the

823
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: best young talent in our division. Um. I mean it's

824
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 1: tough because I do want to say Carolina Panthers like

825
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 1: as much I want to take Atlanta. I guess you're

826
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 1: right with the Panthers. I mean they just have such

827
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:28,399
Speaker 1: a good defense. Um, I gotta go forty nine ers

828
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,919
Speaker 1: once again. But yeah, that's this is like the tough

829
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Speaker 1: part of like picking these teams where it's like, you know,

830
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 1: you know as much I love the Bears chat, I

831
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: don't know if I trust your GM yet, Like, I

832
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: got no real feeling this guy. Again, he's got one

833
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 1: hundred million dollars to work with in cap space, there's

834
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:49,879
Speaker 1: a lot of good free agents, a lot of oh

835
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 1: line you can add. So maybe this will change once

836
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 1: you get close to the season. But I'm still gonna

837
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: go with green Bay. Like again, I have no read

838
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 1: on Jordan Love. I just trust that organization. They're just

839
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:01,839
Speaker 1: again you want you want to do a pody face?

840
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 1: When was your last Super Bowl chat? I'm just surprised

841
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 1: you would say green Bay instead of Detroit in this scenaria,

842
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 1: Like green Bay smoke too much love for Detroit like

843
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 1: they're like the Jets. To me, it's this is when

844
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 1: you want to get out when the when Detroit, when

845
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 1: you look at Detroit is the favorite in the North.

846
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: Bet anyone but Detroit. That's where you're gonna find value,

847
00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 1: anyone but Detroit. Because that's just the public's really stupid.

848
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 1: That's why even talking to Anthony Richardson and we'll talk

849
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 1: more draft, all these guys online, they're like, have you

850
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Speaker 1: watched this college tape? Have you seen how bad this

851
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 1: kid is? That's what you want. You want a guy

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Speaker 1: like Josh Allen when people are just shitting on a

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00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,439
Speaker 1: guy in the whole draft process, that's what you want.

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Speaker 1: The public is really stupid. So the fact that public

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Speaker 1: loves Detroit, that feels like a dead bet this year

856
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Speaker 1: coming into the season where it's like Jordan Love could

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Speaker 1: surprise people. It's five years. Five years. Yeah, I'm thinking

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Speaker 1: five years, Like you're you're back in Jared Goff for

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00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: the next five years. I'd rather take the upside on

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Speaker 1: a rookie contract of Jordan Love on a rookie deal

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Speaker 1: the next five years compared to Jared Golf, which is

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Speaker 1: I think he's a third highest paced quarterback in football

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Speaker 1: right now? All right, Raven, I'll go Giants in the East.

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Speaker 1: But it's really close because how he has been for

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Speaker 1: the Eagles has been excellent. But I do think the

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Speaker 1: Giants did make an interesting bet on you know, Okay,

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Speaker 1: what's gonna happen when the Eagles have to extend her.

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00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: So just because the Giants right now they have a

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00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 1: lot of upside, like we haven't necessarily seen any downside yet.

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Speaker 1: It's only a year, you're going into year two, So

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00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 1: I'd take them, it's close. Take Detroit in the North because, um,

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00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 1: I'm kind of with Simon in the sense that I

873
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 1: don't I don't know if I trust. I like the

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Speaker 1: Bear's situation cap wise, quarterback wise, but I haven't seen

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00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: enough from their coach or GM to to to say

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00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:49,440
Speaker 1: that they can get over the hump where I think

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00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: the Lions have been making generally smart moves and they're

878
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: not necessarily tied to golf. Like I think the Lions

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00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 1: are actually the leading leaders in the Lamar Jackson if

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00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 1: not Ravens. So like I think the Lions um with

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00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 1: with the Packers doing what they're doing, um and and

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00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 1: the and the Vikings really weren't a good team. I

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Speaker 1: think I would take the Lions future. Um, I would

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00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: still take the Falcons in the UH. In the South,

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00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 1: I think the Panthers are gonna be more mediocre and

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't again, not not a coaching staff

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00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 1: or front office that I really have any any faith in.

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00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:24,399
Speaker 1: Whereas I think the Falcons, it's either they're gonna they're

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00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: gonna switch either like they're gonna either switch coaching staffs

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00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 1: or front offices and they're still gonna be in a

891
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 1: pretty good position, or they're gonna take a big step.

892
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: So I go Falcons and then forty nine ers in

893
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 1: the West just because they're they've they've just proven that

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Speaker 1: like their their talent acquisition, you know, if you can

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00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: find a third strand quarterback the way they did, and

896
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 1: they've gotten the Super Bowls or gotten close to the

897
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: Super Bowl with a lot with you know, with Jimmy

898
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,879
Speaker 1: and then with perty like, it's hard to bet against them.

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00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: So definitely Niners. Um with with what's going on in

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00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 1: the in the West, all right, So we all agree

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00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:59,760
Speaker 1: on the Niners and then we disagree on every other division,

902
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 1: which is why I wrote down your guys Giants takes

903
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: because this is gonna age like milk both you guys

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00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 1: taking the Giants for the next five years. I said

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Speaker 1: it was close to be fair, I'm just saying it's

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00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,080
Speaker 1: like and like to be honest, like we're seeing the

907
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Speaker 1: Giants when they are a well run organization win super

908
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,399
Speaker 1: Bowls that they have no business winning. They're all gone

909
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 1: though they haven't drafted well in five years. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. Now we have Now we have guys.

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Speaker 1: You said it yourself, this is again a well run organization.

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Speaker 1: We're talking five years. Right in year one, they ridiculously

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Speaker 1: succeeded expectations. I'm just saying that puts them in It's

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Speaker 1: like they could go real low, but we're talking five years.

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00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: You want upside the Cowboys, You want to be shocked.

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00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,240
Speaker 1: Cowboys always gonna be nine to ten. Huh. You wouldn't

917
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Speaker 1: be shocked if they go four and twelve this year? No,

918
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Speaker 1: but that's my poy. I wouldn't be shocked if they

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Speaker 1: go four and twelve. I wouldn't be shocked for the

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Speaker 1: next five years. I wouldn't be shocked if they bottomed

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00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: out again. But I also wouldn't be shocked if they

922
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 1: stole a super Bowl like those twenty eleven Giants could.

923
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Speaker 1: And remember Daniel Jones, he there's that. Remember Elon Manning,

924
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,839
Speaker 1: he sucked until he did it, you know what I mean?

925
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 1: Like even even during the Super Bowl runs, like a

926
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: lot of people are like, I don't know about this guy.

927
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Speaker 1: So that's all I say. The Giant. It's close, though,

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Speaker 1: because the Eagles have proven that they can do a

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Speaker 1: lot of things. So I think it's two team race.

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Speaker 1: Whereas I think the Cowboys they're always gonna be in

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Speaker 1: at Purgatory, right, They're always gonna be in at like

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Speaker 1: eight to ten eleven wind Purgatory and in Washington is

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Speaker 1: just kind of I just don't trust upstairs, you know.

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