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Speaker 1: The Michael Barry Joe, Mister Trump, you seem to be

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Speaker 1: the only candidate running for president who is attacking the

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Speaker 1: issue of China's currency manipulation. The Wall Street Journal editorial

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Speaker 1: board criticized you for that yesterday. Why don't more candidates

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Speaker 1: not take up this issue? Why can't our government solve

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Speaker 2: Well, our government can't because they're getting advice from people

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Speaker 2: like at the Wall Street Journal that don't know what

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Speaker 2: paper that was bought for five billion dollars. Today it's

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Speaker 2: worth five hundred million. And they're telling us about trade.

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Speaker 2: That's not the kind of trade we want. Do you

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Speaker 2: understand that, Michael. So it's going to be very interesting

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Speaker 2: to see what happens. But you know, the chief weapon.

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Speaker 2: And I've been watching this for a long time and

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Speaker 2: lot of business foreignly. I mean I do much much

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Speaker 2: business and have made some fabulous deals outside of you know,

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Speaker 2: outside of what I would normally do. And I will

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Speaker 2: tell you currency manipulation is their biggest weapon. And we

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Speaker 2: have people that don't even talk about it. I see

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Speaker 2: other the candidates. Nobody even talks about currency manipulation. Most

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Speaker 2: of them don't know what it is, and it's a problem.

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Speaker 2: But I think you understand it's a problem, and it's

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Speaker 2: the way we get beaten all the time. In frankly,

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Speaker 2: they're manipulating their currency brilliantly. They manipulate their currency and

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Speaker 2: Our leaders, our negotiators, they don't have a clue. They're

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Speaker 1: Believe me, well, I think you have some of the

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Speaker 1: same folks at the Wall Street Journal that have the

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Speaker 1: same mentality as at Fox News. Do you think that

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Speaker 1: Fox News has an outsized influence and the cabal that

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Speaker 1: would include the Wall Street Journal, that empire in determining

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Speaker 2: Is, they have an influence. There's certain, you know, there's

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Speaker 2: no question about that. As you know, you know, I've

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Speaker 2: I have good days and bad days with them, but

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Speaker 2: they have an influence, and I think, look, ultimately it's

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Speaker 2: everyone else, And ultimately I think it's the candidate. I

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Speaker 2: find the Wall Street Journal to be very ineffective. I

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Speaker 2: But I find the Wall Street Journal, I mean, they

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Speaker 2: you know, I mean, it's crazy. They do full editorials

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Speaker 2: You know, I think, you know, I think the whole

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Speaker 3: We'll talk more to Donald Trump coming up next the

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Speaker 3: Michael Berry Show.

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Speaker 1: We continue our conversation with Donald Trump. The other major

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Speaker 1: issue where you've been the tip of the spear is

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Speaker 1: illegal immigration. Do you think that traditional conservative bloggers and

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Speaker 1: concern media is covering the issue fairly as relates to

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Speaker 1: your proposals, which are incredibly popular. They've moved you to

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Speaker 2: Well. I think that radio has been very good to me.

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Speaker 2: But I think I know Rush is really out there

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Speaker 2: But you know, if he says so, that's wonderful. But

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Speaker 2: This is out of his book, which I guess he

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Speaker 2: curable disease. So it's a problem. So I brought that

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Speaker 2: who knows, Michael, who knows what people think? But it's

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Speaker 2: an interesting subject matter. Do you agree?

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Speaker 3: I do agree. I do agree. You know, you have been.

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Speaker 1: Very bold in criticizing those who attack you and punching.

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Speaker 1: But there's an interesting dynamic from the senator from Texas,

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Speaker 3: What is that relationship, Well.

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Speaker 2: It's a good relationship. He's a good man, he's a

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Speaker 2: Fortunately he's not doing as well as I am, but

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Speaker 2: these are minor details. But he's doing pretty well. And

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Speaker 2: he said wonderful things about me, and he actually backs

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Speaker 2: He's not doing this out of a weakness. He's doing

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Speaker 2: virtually that I said, wouldn't you say? I mean, virtually

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Speaker 1: There is an interesting dynamic because there would appear to

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Speaker 3: And I think you do line up on a lot

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Speaker 2: Well, we line up in most of the issues, if

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Speaker 2: not all. And I actually hear that as of last night,

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Speaker 2: that's going to happen. You have to be the referee.

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Speaker 1: Michael, Well, let me go to the next issue. And

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Speaker 1: I think this was the issue that really shot you

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Speaker 1: they benefit from it, they don't want to be perceived

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think maybe it's a little bit of both.

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Speaker 2: But there were millions of people that didn't vote, you

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Speaker 2: know that, right, They just weren't inspired. And you would

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Speaker 2: have thought the inspiration would have been getting rid of Obama,

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Speaker 2: because you know, Romney was the better alternative. He would

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Speaker 2: have won that election. You know, you hear all about

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Speaker 2: the Hispanics. You hear about this, and I'm doing well

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Speaker 2: I employ thousands of Hispanics and thousands and thousands over

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about Asia, I'm talking about you know, all

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Speaker 2: the thing that lifted me to number one in the polls.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if that's true or not, but it

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Speaker 2: you what. The people in Texas love me, They like me,

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Speaker 2: they agree with what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Well, the polls certainly show that, and I think we're

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about your business.

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Speaker 2: You are you are really feeling it, you are getting

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Speaker 2: you are horribly hit by it, and they're really taking

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Speaker 2: It's disgusting and it could be solved very easily, and

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Speaker 2: Michael Soup, go ahead.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about your business background.

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Speaker 1: If I were Donald Trump the candidate, I would start

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Speaker 1: every sentence with I'm the guy up here that's created

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Speaker 3: I think that, I think that voters care about that.

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Speaker 1: If the new boss, if you bought the US government,

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Speaker 1: of bankruptcy. But if you did, you can't raise revenues overnight.

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Speaker 1: You've got to cut spending. What would you cut domestically

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Speaker 1: and would you cut military spending?

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Speaker 2: Well? I do two things. First of all, I want

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Speaker 2: to build the military up. But when you look at

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Speaker 2: The pilots say the old plane was better, a lot cheaper.

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Speaker 2: In other words, the new one they don't like it

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Speaker 2: as much, it doesn't maneuver as well, et cetera, et cetera,

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Speaker 2: et cetera, and the price tag is enormous. I bet

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Speaker 2: you that we could, with some real common sense, get

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Speaker 2: the kind of power that we need, much more power.

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Speaker 2: We need more power. We have to be so strong

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Speaker 2: that nobody messes with us. But they're buying things so expensively.

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Speaker 2: I don't think I have people that ever negotiated before.

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Speaker 2: And I would be willing to bet Michael, we could

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Speaker 2: do a much better job. Get more equipment, better equipment stuff.

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Speaker 2: You know, when test pilots like the old one better.

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Speaker 1: Might I suggest that the new one has a lobbyist

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Speaker 2: Well I have. I think that's true. I think that's true.

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Speaker 2: a man. This the old one just beats the hell

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Speaker 2: so there are many things like that. Look, there are

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Speaker 3: Mister Trump.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to give our listeners the details on your

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Speaker 1: remiss if I didn't ask you one favor before you go.

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Speaker 1: I will keep to the time. Our veterans are not

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Speaker 1: to give that some thought, because you have a mouthpiece

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Speaker 2: Well, Michael, you know I've been so strong in the veterans,

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Speaker 2: and I believe so strongly there are greatest people and

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Speaker 2: to take care of the vets like me. The vets

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Speaker 2: And you know what I mean, that's awful.

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Speaker 1: Well, there is a place called Camp Hope. We all

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Speaker 1: have our cause that we care about, but at some

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Speaker 1: it because it's peer to peer counseling changing people's lives,

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Speaker 1: and I think it would really touch you. Let's stop,

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Speaker 1: let's stop twenty two veterans a day killing themselves. They

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Speaker 1: deserve betters. Mister Trump, thank you for being our guest.

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Speaker 1: Good luck in Beaumont tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much. We're gonna have a good time.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Michael, sir.

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Speaker 1: That's tomorrow at Ford Park Arena in Beaumont. Tickets are free,

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