Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to the Therapy Gecko podcast slash YouTube show.
Speaker 2: My name is Lyle.
Speaker 1: I'm dressed up as a lizard in the beating hot
Speaker 1: sun in the middle of Washington Square Park, New York City.
Speaker 1: It's a great day to be around other human beings
Speaker 1: on the earth. This is one of my favorite things
Speaker 1: to do in my life. Genuinely, I love doing this.
Speaker 1: I love coming out and uh, interviewing people and learning
Speaker 1: about people. And I love the energy of this park.
Speaker 1: I haven't shut up about it every episode. I love
Speaker 1: getting to be a part of the energy. And we're here.
Speaker 1: We're here, and we're gonna talk to some people and
Speaker 1: we're gonna do that until we get bored. So I
Speaker 1: don't I don't have anything else to say on this intro.
Speaker 1: Let's talk to some people. It's Gecko time. Hello Sarah.
Speaker 1: What is your name?
Speaker 3: Oscar?
Speaker 2: What's up? Oscar? How's life?
Speaker 4: Life is good? Man? Hold on me.
Speaker 1: Get comfortable, Yeah, get comfortable. We're gonna'm gonna ask you
Speaker 1: some of the some tough questions.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm ready, Are you really? I'm ready?
Speaker 2: Okay? What's the how's your love life?
Speaker 4: My love life? I'm single right now?
Speaker 5: Man?
Speaker 2: Okay, has that gone so good?
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm not really focused on nobody but myself
Speaker 6: right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you? What are you focused on about yourself?
Speaker 4: Photography? Bro? Yeah, trying to make some money?
Speaker 2: Man, how do you How does the photographer make money?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 6: Right now, I'm just making I'm going around the city.
Speaker 6: I make tiktoks for people for free, random people. I
Speaker 6: do photo shoots for them.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 6: And on the side, I just do regular photo shoes
Speaker 6: besides the TikTok you okay, I just do photo.
Speaker 4: Shops of people.
Speaker 1: Who Who are these people that you're making these tiktoks for?
Speaker 1: Have you made a TikTok for anyone in particular recently
Speaker 1: that you were that you were excited about?
Speaker 4: Yeah, but this is random people. I literally don't know them.
Speaker 2: You don't know Have you ever ever made friends with
Speaker 2: any of these people?
Speaker 4: Of course?
Speaker 6: Of course I actually made one of my most recent
Speaker 6: ones I have she got she booked me again for
Speaker 6: tomorrow and Tuesday.
Speaker 1: So really, what is that a friend? Or is that
Speaker 1: more of a client?
Speaker 4: His client? But I met him just now, probably three
Speaker 4: days ago.
Speaker 2: Okay, what do you what is he booking you to do?
Speaker 3: A girl?
Speaker 4: A woman the city.
Speaker 6: Just pictures like pictures you know, with her in this
Speaker 6: train station or in the town of taxi stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Okay, do you make people look nice?
Speaker 4: I do make people look nice.
Speaker 2: Could you make me look thirty pounds lighter if I
Speaker 2: asked you to?
Speaker 1: I probably can't really, Okay, all right, all right, I
Speaker 1: might get your card after this.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, almost show you everything?
Speaker 1: All right, all right, I'm excited to see that I
Speaker 1: got you. All right, So people who are only listening
Speaker 1: to this on audio can't see this, but your pants
Speaker 1: are bedazzled and jewels.
Speaker 6: He's a Birth of a royal Child's I spent a
Speaker 6: little pretty penny for.
Speaker 2: These, right, how much were they?
Speaker 7: Like?
Speaker 1: These were four undred dollars? These are four hundred dollars. Wait,
Speaker 1: four hundred dollars for these shorts.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a brand called Birth of a Real Child. Okay,
Speaker 6: check them out. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Can't you just like can't you just like like you
Speaker 1: can cause you can go to toys r us you
Speaker 1: can buy like a be Dazzler, and you can just
Speaker 1: do this at home.
Speaker 4: I just I just got it for the brand name.
Speaker 3: Mom.
Speaker 4: Well, love to you.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, okay, So what is that?
Speaker 1: Right? Because I know like people like they like Gucci
Speaker 1: and VERSACEI and what is that? What is what is
Speaker 1: the value of that?
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be honest, there's no value in it, be real.
Speaker 2: But you bought it, there is you bought spend four
Speaker 2: hundred dollars.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it makes me feel good, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: This makes me feel better of myself, Like I made
Speaker 6: this money for myself. I could spend this money on myself.
Speaker 6: You know, I like spending money on myself.
Speaker 2: So yeah, how else do you spend money on yourself?
Speaker 4: Right now?
Speaker 6: The only thing I'm focused on those cameras, you know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying. So I just bought a whole bunch
Speaker 6: of equipment. I spent over thousands of dollars on equipments.
Speaker 6: Right now, I'm just on that. I don't really spend
Speaker 6: money on anything else besides that right now.
Speaker 4: Close.
Speaker 6: I held off like I had these for a while,
Speaker 6: I used for a minute. I just started burying them again,
Speaker 6: probably no last month.
Speaker 1: The camera stuff is good because that's I mean, you
Speaker 1: could that's a tax right off. Yeah, you can't write
Speaker 1: these off on your tax Actually I remember you. I
Speaker 1: don't know, like you know what? Okay, honestly, I bet like,
Speaker 1: all right, Like if I was your if I was
Speaker 1: your CPA and you were getting audited and the I R. S.
Speaker 1: Was like, yo, you what is this four hundred dollars
Speaker 1: charge for pants? What is this four hundred dollars expense?
Speaker 1: I'd be like, this is marketing, all right? People you
Speaker 1: have flashing pants. People come up to you, They're like,
Speaker 1: I like your pants.
Speaker 4: That's that's like.
Speaker 2: Uh, and so what do you do?
Speaker 1: And then you're like on a photographer and then that's
Speaker 1: your money and then we and then we'd go to jail.
Speaker 4: Jail are going to jail for text from damn damn?
Speaker 2: How how what else is going on in your life?
Speaker 2: You seem carefree?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I'm literally a chill gup, bro.
Speaker 3: Really I have a lot.
Speaker 4: I'm not really, I'm real privileged.
Speaker 2: Tell me more if you want to privilege.
Speaker 4: I mean you know what I'm saying. I miss I'm
Speaker 4: a little privileged. So I don't really have any worries
Speaker 4: on stress.
Speaker 6: Right now, you know, Okay, I'm just trying to build
Speaker 6: myself who you know, build myself up become who I
Speaker 6: want to become, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So, have you ever had any stress or worries or yeah?
Speaker 4: Of course? I mean you know, you lose jobs.
Speaker 6: I had a job, lost it, multiple jobs, I lost it,
Speaker 6: So yeah, of course you you that's the only thing
Speaker 6: I have a stressed about.
Speaker 4: But I was only probably about a week. You don't
Speaker 4: stress over those.
Speaker 6: Type of things too long, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: My photography makes up money.
Speaker 1: I'm good man sick really, you know I am. You
Speaker 1: know what's funny is there's so there's two kinds of people.
Speaker 1: There's more.
Speaker 2: There's a spectrum of people.
Speaker 1: There's people who are like I can't possibly imagine how
Speaker 1: anyone could worry about anything.
Speaker 2: Life is so easy and great.
Speaker 1: And then there's people who are like, I can't imagine
Speaker 1: how everyone is not running around screaming like their heads
Speaker 1: on fire.
Speaker 4: Certain people they they live they live like in the now.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so it's kind of like they're stressing over problems
Speaker 6: now instead of thinking like tomorrow, probably not even't stress
Speaker 6: over those type of things, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 6: for instance, a love life, Yeah, you might break up
Speaker 6: with your girl right now. You might be mad right now,
Speaker 6: but probably next week you're not gonna be You're not
Speaker 6: gonna think about that.
Speaker 4: So that's why a lot of people are.
Speaker 1: Just next week's a little soon, right, Like if you were,
Speaker 1: like I don't know if you were, if you were
Speaker 1: in love with a woman for like five years and
Speaker 1: then you broke up, if by next week you were like, oh,
Speaker 1: what's her?
Speaker 2: I forgot her name? I mean, I'd like, I don't
Speaker 2: know if that was worth.
Speaker 6: Certain things you can't stress about you got no control over,
Speaker 6: So there's no need to stress over you know what
Speaker 6: I'm saying anything I don't have control over. I don't
Speaker 6: stress about a lot of control over. I'll stress about it.
Speaker 1: What do you what are you stressed about anything right now? No?
Speaker 2: Like right now? Do you mean like right now? Is
Speaker 2: in like the general right now?
Speaker 4: Or it's like an exact moment where we're talking general
Speaker 4: right now?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 4: Cool, that's awesome in this exact moment. No, that's cool.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to live in the moment a little bit
Speaker 1: more too.
Speaker 4: You should, bro. Yeah, it makes you feel free, bro. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean you kind of a kind of like a
Speaker 4: you free. I feel like you.
Speaker 1: Well, I feel yeah, I feel I feel very in
Speaker 1: the moment. I feel very in the moment right now.
Speaker 4: People can't do the things you do right now. Oh
Speaker 4: this a lot of people can't do that.
Speaker 1: This, you know what is? This feels very uh normal
Speaker 1: normal just doing this? Yeah, like I don't my heart
Speaker 1: rate is like that because that's who you are wrestling, this.
Speaker 4: Is who you is.
Speaker 6: I'm like this, unlike you, Bro, I'll do the same thing.
Speaker 6: I go outside, talks random people.
Speaker 4: They're just free.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. It doesn't bother you. It
Speaker 4: shouldn't bother you.
Speaker 2: Why not you? I feel like I'm and here's the thing.
Speaker 1: And I may have talked about like like you like,
Speaker 1: it's something about having a costume or like a context
Speaker 1: makes it way easier to talk to people.
Speaker 4: You know, funny birthdays on Halloween?
Speaker 2: Man, do you use that somehow?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: This, well, this year, I'm definitely about to go full costume.
Speaker 2: What are you gonna be?
Speaker 4: I'm thinking of being a realistic alien.
Speaker 6: Like the whole head, lips, moving skin, everything, Like I'm about.
Speaker 2: To go crazy a realistic alien.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm thinking about doing that.
Speaker 6: I'm not sure yet it's either that or probably something
Speaker 6: like death Note the I forgot that guy's name, that's what.
Speaker 1: Are Are you an anime guy?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 4: Really? I just watch it here and in Okaya?
Speaker 3: What is it?
Speaker 1: What is death notice? Like this guy is a journal
Speaker 1: If he writes to your name and it die, that's so.
Speaker 4: That's so cool.
Speaker 2: Bro Okay.
Speaker 1: I don't know anything about death Note, but it, like
Speaker 1: the premise sounds lame, like just a kid being like,
Speaker 1: all right, I'll write about you in my journal if
Speaker 1: you're meaning.
Speaker 4: Right right right? Okay? When you put it like that,
Speaker 4: damn you?
Speaker 2: That is it cooler than that?
Speaker 4: I believe it is.
Speaker 6: The anime is super cool, but the movie ain't made.
Speaker 6: Maybe not, you know what I'm saying. But inmate, definitely
Speaker 6: definitely Town to ten. You should watch that, but you
Speaker 6: should watch it, bro Okay. If you never watch you
Speaker 6: should watch it.
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, I'll think about it.
Speaker 4: Many you got an Instagram or anything?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got an Instagram.
Speaker 1: It's at Lyle the number four ever. And you know
Speaker 1: what's fine is Lyle. The word the words Lyle forever
Speaker 1: wasn't taken, but I just had the four.
Speaker 3: Here.
Speaker 2: My fingers are a little.
Speaker 1: But if you search therapy Gecko, there's a green guy
Speaker 1: that comes up, and that's that's me.
Speaker 2: That's right, that's me.
Speaker 4: That's so crazy, man, that's well.
Speaker 1: What's your name? What's your name? Oscar. It's nice to
Speaker 1: me you, Oscar Oscars. Is there anything else you want
Speaker 1: to say to the people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 4: I have a photography page.
Speaker 6: It's called the go Ahead, the mugshot Lab on Instagram,
Speaker 6: the what lab, the mug shot lab, the mugshot Lab.
Speaker 2: That's cool.
Speaker 1: Would you ever would you do that job? Would you
Speaker 1: take like mugs, like actual mug shots?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I have.
Speaker 6: I have a huge plan right now coming up, probably
Speaker 6: like by the beginning of September. Coming incorporates mug shots
Speaker 6: and stuff like that. It's all right, crazy but coming up.
Speaker 9: Man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, nice to meet you too, Oscar. Good
Speaker 1: luck with your with your life. Man, I'll see you.
Speaker 1: I'll see you on the universe maybe one time. I oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I want to see those pictures. I'll tell you. I'll
Speaker 1: get them from you later. Everything okay, rock and roll, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll see it if you didn't. Man, all right, see you, Oscar.
Speaker 1: What's pleasure to me?
Speaker 4: You.
Speaker 1: What's your name? My name is Solids Solace.
Speaker 2: What's up?
Speaker 1: Solace?
Speaker 10: You know what's crazy?
Speaker 2: What's crazy?
Speaker 4: Our front?
Speaker 10: The sleep to your video last night?
Speaker 1: Oh? No, ship really where they are? That's that's some
Speaker 1: some manifestation stuff.
Speaker 10: That's the present moment.
Speaker 2: What video was it?
Speaker 10: It was you and Dominic fight?
Speaker 8: Oh really?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 11: I thought it was very funny, just like the energy
Speaker 11: of it was like very relaxed.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: He seems like a cool I don't know him, but
Speaker 1: he seems like a nice guy now he is.
Speaker 10: I listen to his music.
Speaker 2: That's cool.
Speaker 10: I like all types of music.
Speaker 1: What what you like all types of music music? Do
Speaker 1: you like country music?
Speaker 10: I like country music?
Speaker 2: That everyone, that's what everyone. That's Severone's line is like.
Speaker 11: They always say, I like I like all types of music,
Speaker 11: but I don't like country.
Speaker 10: But like you don't like everything?
Speaker 1: Then do you like like scream out? Heavy metal?
Speaker 11: I make metal music. Scream Oh, I have a country
Speaker 11: song as well. My goal is I want to reach
Speaker 11: all audiences.
Speaker 1: I wanna literally, I don't know if you can do that,
Speaker 1: you'll see reaching all audience. Think about I don't mean,
Speaker 1: I don't mean, I don't know if you can do that.
Speaker 1: I like, I don't believe in you personal ability, but
Speaker 1: I I it's like, actually, you know what I'm gonna
Speaker 1: I'm gonna eat my words real quick because it's this band,
Speaker 1: one of my favorite bands, so I really like by
Speaker 1: the name of Ween, and they are like pretty genre lists,
Speaker 1: you know. They have they have country songs, and they
Speaker 1: have like rock songs, and they have heavy, punky songs,
Speaker 1: and they have all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 2: So I take I take back what I said you.
Speaker 1: I think you could definitely be a multi genre.
Speaker 10: It's all about curiosity.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you What are you curious about? These days?
Speaker 11: Everything about life is create Like, I think the goal
Speaker 11: is to lead life with acceptance, curiosity, and understanding. So
Speaker 11: when you walk through life with those three principles, you
Speaker 11: just grow and you realize more things.
Speaker 1: Acceptance, curiosity, and understanding. Our understanding and acceptance somewhat.
Speaker 10: Somewhat the same thing. Yeah, in a way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry, I don't mean to nitpick your.
Speaker 11: Because think about it, it's like, yeah, somewhat they're kind
Speaker 11: of different. You could go if you really want to
Speaker 11: nitpick it, we could like go into the differences, but
Speaker 11: they're pretty much the same.
Speaker 3: Thing.
Speaker 1: Do you are you doing a good job at accepting
Speaker 1: and they understand.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 11: Then it was a little bit harder, Like when you're younger,
Speaker 11: you're a little bit more stubborn for sure.
Speaker 2: Old you already seemed like a young guy. Yeah, I'm nineteen. Okay.
Speaker 1: Word and when you, uh, when you were young? What
Speaker 1: it was when we were younger? What was what was
Speaker 1: it hard to accept?
Speaker 10: I feel like, at least for me, it was hard
Speaker 10: to accept who I was.
Speaker 1: If that makes sense, well, of course, yeah, yo, god,
Speaker 1: dear god, you don't want to accept who you are
Speaker 1: when you're sixteen.
Speaker 2: Very horrible.
Speaker 1: If you're fifteen and you were like, this is me forever, Yeah,
Speaker 1: of course not.
Speaker 2: You don't accept that. What were you?
Speaker 10: I don't know.
Speaker 11: I've always stood out because I perceived the world and
Speaker 11: kind of differently. Everyone perceives the world differently, but I
Speaker 11: just a lot of people didn't seem to understand how
Speaker 11: with like think and navigate through things and how I
Speaker 11: viewed things.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 10: So back then I used to think that was a negative.
Speaker 10: I thought that was a bad thing.
Speaker 11: But when I became an artist, that's the thing that
Speaker 11: sets me apart. That's the thing that attracts people. That's
Speaker 11: I become the voice for those people and people who
Speaker 11: feel similar.
Speaker 10: So it was a gift.
Speaker 11: I feel like, yeah, it was a lot of accepting
Speaker 11: the bat and through making music, I've learned to just
Speaker 11: accept who I am fully, so it allows me to
Speaker 11: be bothering.
Speaker 1: I don't even know if you want to accept who
Speaker 1: you are fully at nineteen? Don't you want to keep
Speaker 1: being malleable?
Speaker 10: I mean I evolve every day. I feel like we all, yeah,
Speaker 10: evolve every day.
Speaker 2: You're right, You're right, You're right, You're right. Actually, yeah,
Speaker 2: you're right.
Speaker 1: I actually think accepting who you are is good.
Speaker 11: How do you accept Like think about this, like what
Speaker 11: you've built for yourself and how far you came, Like
Speaker 11: this was just an idea in your head.
Speaker 10: Probably yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, you know I agree with the Actually I'm
Speaker 1: trying to accept myself a little bit more. I'm trying to,
Speaker 1: like but I'm trying to become okay with being annoying
Speaker 1: you know what I mean?
Speaker 10: What do you think is annoying about anything that you do?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like, like, I think I've talked about this on the
Speaker 1: show for but like you ever like you ever go
Speaker 1: to a party or a social situation and you walk
Speaker 1: away and you're like, oh, I think I was a
Speaker 1: little annoying. Yeah, or I was maybe I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe you got drunk, you said something stupid, you know,
Speaker 1: not not like hostile or malicious, but you're just like
Speaker 1: a hostile and malicious is a different thing.
Speaker 2: That's more of a thing.
Speaker 1: Like if you feel like, oh I was hostile or
Speaker 1: I was malicious, that's the kind of stuff you want
Speaker 1: to like, oh I gotta change that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But if you were just annoying, it's fine. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know you know what I mean, Like, uh, oh I
Speaker 1: was a little loud er. I just tried to be funny.
Speaker 1: It's interesting that you say It's like, that's fine.
Speaker 2: You just get accepted about yourself.
Speaker 11: It's interesting you say that because as an artist, you've
Speaker 11: got to be annoying.
Speaker 2: You gotta be annoying. Yeah, you gotta be annoying.
Speaker 11: And I feel like when you're doing anything that's different creative,
Speaker 11: you're so eager to show it and to be like,
Speaker 11: oh I do this, or like when you're so passionate
Speaker 11: about life and things, you could go on forever about
Speaker 11: it and just talk about forever and go on forever.
Speaker 11: But you may walk around from a situation be like
Speaker 11: was I annoying? Because some people they don't know how
Speaker 11: to reciprocate that energy. Like if I went to you
Speaker 11: and talked about music because I love it so much,
Speaker 11: I'll probably talk about it at a depth and a
Speaker 11: level that you might not quite understand or be.
Speaker 10: Able to like reciprocate. Sure, but that.
Speaker 2: Way, like you would get into like keys and notes
Speaker 2: and stuff.
Speaker 11: That even I'm more about the feeling of it, which matters.
Speaker 11: But we live in a world where a lot of
Speaker 11: people they don't really feel.
Speaker 8: What do you.
Speaker 12: Do?
Speaker 2: You really believe that?
Speaker 11: Not fully, I feel like people feel, but they like
Speaker 11: to distract themselves.
Speaker 10: Think about the phone? What is it doing?
Speaker 11: Of course, because when you sit with yourself and when
Speaker 11: you're by yourself and you're alone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's if you walk around being like I might.
Speaker 1: If you walk around being like I'm gonna talk about
Speaker 1: music and it's such a way that uh, people will
Speaker 1: not understand because most people don't feel you're gonna isolate yourself.
Speaker 4: That.
Speaker 11: I like that you say that, But for me, it
Speaker 11: was more just like I don't think I just go
Speaker 11: with the flow in the moment, just like you were
Speaker 11: saying earlier. And when you're in the moment and you're
Speaker 11: not thinking, the feeling just leads everything. Like right now,
Speaker 11: as I'm talking, there's no thought, it's just a flow
Speaker 11: of conversation between.
Speaker 2: I'm sure we're in a flow state.
Speaker 10: Yeah, I agree with that if people aren't in that
Speaker 10: flow state.
Speaker 2: But but yeah, but you have no fun.
Speaker 1: You have no idea what anyone else is that anything,
Speaker 1: and no clue. Man, that could be a projection. But
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that you as you. I'm saying the
Speaker 1: general you. You know you, Like I was trying to
Speaker 1: explain the concept of sollipsism to someone the other day.
Speaker 1: I was I was really boring them, but I was
Speaker 1: trying to I was trying to do you know what
Speaker 1: syllipsism is.
Speaker 11: It's uh, the first part of it sounds familiar, but
Speaker 11: the end of it.
Speaker 2: Oh, I talked about this on the pocket.
Speaker 1: It's like the idea that your own consciousness is the
Speaker 1: only thing you can truly verify, and it's uh, you
Speaker 1: have no idea what anyone else is thinking or feeling.
Speaker 1: So if you walk around you have this preconceived notion
Speaker 1: of like all other people are not gonna understand me,
Speaker 1: then you don't take chances you don't you won't be
Speaker 1: vulnerable in such a way that you can allow yourself
Speaker 1: to be.
Speaker 11: Also goes with the flow because you're not thinking, You're
Speaker 11: not worried about what do people are thinking? Yeah, because
Speaker 11: I've really it's like the law of assumption, which you
Speaker 11: assume is what is.
Speaker 2: A sort of sort of I don't know.
Speaker 1: I feel like there's a lot of situations I've been
Speaker 1: in where like maybe like I'll be in a conversation
Speaker 1: and I'll be like, I'll be like, this person is
Speaker 1: probably not on my level of understanding of this situation
Speaker 1: right now, I relate to well, okay, right, But then
Speaker 1: three days later, but then you look back on that conversation,
Speaker 1: like you're like, well, then you look back at the conversation,
Speaker 1: You're like, oh, no, that person probably just thought I
Speaker 1: was a douchebag, or that person probably like you know,
Speaker 1: I was, I was the one who didn't understand. That's
Speaker 1: always default to believing that you don't understand, which is
Speaker 1: funny because that you're you're helplessly surrendering to the universe.
Speaker 11: That's kind of a construct and like a belief system.
Speaker 11: Like I viewed like this, our brain is like a computer,
Speaker 11: and we got these programs that are really negative. Yeah,
Speaker 11: that we naturally go to the negative program. Yeah, I
Speaker 11: believe that instead of like a positive program. Yeah, which
Speaker 11: is like kind of like what rebuilding your subconscious is,
Speaker 11: because you could you could reprogram yourself that every time
Speaker 11: you meet somebody and talk to somebody, that you think
Speaker 11: of positive things, that they only thought about you positively,
Speaker 11: and if you change that thought. Because consciousness, everything is
Speaker 11: a reflection of your consciousness. So the more you heal
Speaker 11: and fix yourself eternally, the more externally everything's more comfortable.
Speaker 2: I would say, oh, I agree with that.
Speaker 1: No, I fully believe in the internal reality, the internal
Speaker 1: thing or reflection of the external.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes it feels like you you're live in
Speaker 1: a prison.
Speaker 2: If you're on making like that, I feel like.
Speaker 10: The mental pain is like probably the worst pain.
Speaker 11: Do you have any hobbies? I skate obviously. Music, Music's
Speaker 11: my life. Like I'm very I have a weird I
Speaker 11: work every day, so every day i'm either if i'm
Speaker 11: not if i'm home, I'm always recording, I mix it.
Speaker 11: I do everything engineered by myself. I do all tiffic
Speaker 11: types of genres. I'm always studying music.
Speaker 10: I study the greats, and I study older people, people
Speaker 10: from now.
Speaker 2: But like Mozart and shit.
Speaker 11: Even bro even I had a friend he showed me
Speaker 11: this like Mozart movie we're about, like this movie about Mozart,
Speaker 11: and there's a scene in the movie about how he
Speaker 11: came up with one of his songs and he was
Speaker 11: showing me, and I genuinely was interested because like the
Speaker 11: way that they showed it in the in like the
Speaker 11: movie and the Bible pic and it's like they were
Speaker 11: making music in an old traditional way. But I was
Speaker 11: able to see how it evolved to how we make
Speaker 11: music today.
Speaker 1: Oh sure, yeah, everything everything's I feel like, Yeah, philosophy
Speaker 1: is like that. All the thoughts that we think are
Speaker 1: unique have been thought about by some fucking guy a
Speaker 1: billion years ago, and it's.
Speaker 11: Like crazy to think about because like when when you
Speaker 11: think about things like those, I feel like you just
Speaker 11: appreciate life more.
Speaker 2: What's your name again?
Speaker 1: My name is saw This sauce is the anything else
Speaker 1: you want to say to the people of the computer.
Speaker 2: Before we go.
Speaker 10: Always believing yourself and everything is possible.
Speaker 11: And whatever makes you feel and makes you feel the
Speaker 11: mo happy inside, chase it and keep feeling your love
Speaker 11: and passion for things in the world.
Speaker 10: And literally anything you could think of is possible.
Speaker 11: I would have never thought I could do the things
Speaker 11: that I could do, like perform and all the cool shit,
Speaker 11: even meeting him.
Speaker 10: Literally, I fell asleep to his video. Literally, and now right.
Speaker 2: Here except flight. You can't fly, don't you if you
Speaker 2: jump off a.
Speaker 11: Building out two thousand years from now? Think we could
Speaker 11: think about when they made the plane. You the thing
Speaker 11: that I went up and said, Yo, I have this
Speaker 11: idea we're gonna make, like you know how birds fly,
Speaker 11: I'm gonna.
Speaker 10: Make this car that flies. People looked at him like
Speaker 10: he was crazy.
Speaker 1: Well, I you know what, and too, I'll see you
Speaker 1: in two thousand years and we'll do it.
Speaker 2: We'll do a flight test or something. We will willing.
Speaker 10: I appreciate you, Thank you, of course, man.
Speaker 2: I'll see your on the universe.
Speaker 4: Sir.
Speaker 2: Hi, what is your name? Hi, Chloe, that's my sister's name.
Speaker 2: Let's Chloe.
Speaker 13: What possesses you to do this?
Speaker 2: What possesses me to do this?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 13: I think it's pretty cool.
Speaker 1: Oh thanks, Wait, but before I get my answer, what
Speaker 1: do you think possessed me to do this?
Speaker 7: Well, just based off of like what I've been hearing,
Speaker 7: I feel like you are trying to do a good thing,
Speaker 7: but it is like, you know, like talking to people.
Speaker 13: I checked out your page, you give advice and what.
Speaker 7: Sure, So I feel like when you do it just
Speaker 7: stressed like a normal person, it's harder to reach an audience.
Speaker 7: So maybe you're trying to find a way to reach
Speaker 7: an audience by like stepping out the box.
Speaker 8: That's sure.
Speaker 1: Okay when you say it, do you mean like the
Speaker 1: whole thing with the cameras and the mics in the podcast,
Speaker 1: or do you mean the gecko suit or everything?
Speaker 2: Oh, the gecko suit.
Speaker 7: I think like you're broadcasting it to reach another audience.
Speaker 7: But I think like just being out here it's hard
Speaker 7: to like and I don't know if like is this
Speaker 7: like what now you tell me your answer, because I
Speaker 7: was just.
Speaker 13: Gonna go into like a whole deep I.
Speaker 1: Don't know, a whole deep dive if I that's more
Speaker 1: everyone here's because here's the thing and a lot of
Speaker 1: this is one of my problems with doing this is that.
Speaker 1: I know people said they want to know about like
Speaker 1: why I'm the gecko or whatever. But I feel like
Speaker 1: the people who listen to this they've heard me for
Speaker 1: heard me too much. I want to know about you, Chloe. Okay,
Speaker 1: what's going on in your life?
Speaker 7: Nothing much? School, work, works, school. I'm now here interviewing
Speaker 7: with a get go.
Speaker 2: What do you go to school for?
Speaker 13: I'm getting my NBA finance.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, very nice? Yeah, I think what what do
Speaker 1: you do for work?
Speaker 13: I'm an e A. I'm I'm an e A at
Speaker 13: a finance firm.
Speaker 1: You work at the you work at Madden Madden. Never mind,
Speaker 1: you're a I'm an.
Speaker 13: I got I got exactly what you just meant, Madden
Speaker 13: meaning like football Madden. Yes, I just got the joke.
Speaker 7: What do you call it? Yeah, I'm an e A.
Speaker 7: I'm a I'm an e at a finance firm.
Speaker 2: And you're an executive assistant?
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, okay, all right, listen off the record, but
Speaker 1: also kind of totally on the record because we're recording it. But, uh,
Speaker 1: do you like to people throw things at you? Or
Speaker 1: people mean it seems like a very like genuinely I've
Speaker 1: had I've.
Speaker 13: Had some weird experiences like weird.
Speaker 7: Okay, so this is just my this is just I've
Speaker 7: never had an experience where someone was like outwardly rude
Speaker 7: or they're throwing stuff. But I do have to say,
Speaker 7: if you work in like a super big firm, you're
Speaker 7: gonna come across a bunch of people with different backgrounds.
Speaker 13: They're from different you know. And with that being.
Speaker 7: Said, usually with their cultures, they treat people differently based
Speaker 7: off off whether they're subordinate or you know. So I've
Speaker 7: been treated differently, like it's it's it's out of the
Speaker 7: norm for Americans, but it's like in their culture it's normal.
Speaker 7: But I think it's a beautiful experience because you get
Speaker 7: to first of all, you built tough skin, and then
Speaker 7: second all you get to see different people from there.
Speaker 1: Are you able to because I don't want to, well this,
Speaker 1: you've been in EA at multiple different things. Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: so I don't want to get you in trouble, like well,
Speaker 1: like do you mean like I guess like in Japanese
Speaker 1: work culture, it's very uhcty like subordinate and superior.
Speaker 2: Yes, vibe is that kind of what you're talking about?
Speaker 1: Like other like other cultures, Yes, like America is a
Speaker 1: little bit more like lax.
Speaker 7: But then again, I've there's a lot of I've seen
Speaker 7: a lot of directors, so you know, they're analysts and
Speaker 7: they're like from Tennessee, and I'll be like, what the
Speaker 7: fuck are like, They'll they'll talk to them crazy. But
Speaker 7: I've also experienced you know, it could just be to
Speaker 7: us they'll be seen as rude, but to them, it's
Speaker 7: just like it's in their culture.
Speaker 13: It's just what they're used to. That's how they're raised.
Speaker 8: So so let.
Speaker 1: Me ask you this, Clay, because you're on the up.
Speaker 1: You know, you're working, you're on a school. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: see you. You know you're you're you're on the rise.
Speaker 1: When you are when you are CEO one day, if
Speaker 1: that's what you want, I don't know what you want.
Speaker 1: But when you're when you have well whatever, when you
Speaker 1: have an EA, yeah, do you predict that you will
Speaker 1: remember what it was like to be in EA and
Speaker 1: that you'll be more uh empathetic as result? Or will
Speaker 1: you let the money change you?
Speaker 13: No wrong answers, No, absolutely. First of all, I feel like.
Speaker 7: I feel like as an EA, you do get to
Speaker 7: if I never experienced this job role, I feel like
Speaker 7: I wouldn't have the same type of empathy for other
Speaker 7: eas as I do, you know, in the job role.
Speaker 13: But I feel like, let's say, like later on in
Speaker 13: the future.
Speaker 7: If I were have an EA, there are certain attributes
Speaker 7: within just from what from working I see that I
Speaker 7: would like if I were to have an EA, certain
Speaker 7: attributes where I've seen commonly in other eas where or
Speaker 7: even in myself, where I wouldn't like. So I feel
Speaker 7: like I wouldn't be super or be like, oh I
Speaker 7: get it, I get it, but it would be like
Speaker 7: I understand, but you know, you gotta get your your.
Speaker 1: We all got to I understand, but I asked for
Speaker 1: a splendor and this is regular show exactly, and if
Speaker 1: you do it again, I will kill you exactly.
Speaker 7: I mean it's like that's even even within myself just
Speaker 7: being an EA, I'm like that in my personal life
Speaker 7: as well, Like okay, yeah, so yeah.
Speaker 1: Totally, so okay, So what do you want? Because do
Speaker 1: you want to be the CEO? Do you want to
Speaker 1: be high powered business person?
Speaker 7: No, I don't think I'm gonna be doing anything in finance.
Speaker 7: If I would be doing anything in finance, I would
Speaker 7: probably be like a chief of staff. I don't see
Speaker 7: myself like being an analyst or anything. At my last job,
Speaker 7: my director was like, oh, you should just like become
Speaker 7: an analyst. You'll be a great analyst. But that comes
Speaker 7: like it's just with finance. It's such a like a
Speaker 7: structured ladder you have to climb up of and it's
Speaker 7: like if you start, if you want to start, you
Speaker 7: have to start in an internship and then that's gonna.
Speaker 13: Take you a while.
Speaker 7: It's like it's such a I'm very I'm a spontaneous person.
Speaker 1: Can I ask you this, Like in the finance world,
Speaker 1: have you met anyone like evil?
Speaker 2: You don't have I don't want any names.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but like well like evil as in like their
Speaker 7: vibes like just like just something like is off with them?
Speaker 1: Hell ya yeah, yeah, Like what is that?
Speaker 7: I don't know, there's been There was this one guy
Speaker 7: he came into our firm.
Speaker 13: I'm not gonna say who, but he owns another huge, huge, huge.
Speaker 7: Firm, one of the biggest assets. They they I'm actually
Speaker 7: not the same thing. But he came into our firm
Speaker 7: and he had a meeting and it's just immediately like
Speaker 7: his vibe was just off to me. I didn't know
Speaker 7: at the time who he was. I had to ask
Speaker 7: after him, like who was that, because it's like his
Speaker 7: VI his I don't know, just the energy was off.
Speaker 7: But even outside of finance, like I go to you know,
Speaker 7: I'm young, I go to the club and whatnot.
Speaker 1: I'm like waiting for you to say that this was
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 7: No, okay, no, you probably if I were to go
Speaker 7: a little bit more into depth, I'm sure you wouldn't
Speaker 7: be able to exactly like be like I know exactly which.
Speaker 8: That's what I was, like, I don't know, maybe.
Speaker 7: I don't even know you're you probably would definitely because
Speaker 7: the corporate, like their firm itself is.
Speaker 13: Oh yeah yeah. So even like going to clubs.
Speaker 7: And whatnot, and like just just being outside, even outside
Speaker 7: of finance.
Speaker 13: It's like oh he like, you know, child, what's he called?
Speaker 7: Even outside of finance or just like in night life
Speaker 7: or just in the regular Like sometimes I'll just come
Speaker 7: across people, and it usually tends to be people with
Speaker 7: a lot of money that give me just weird vibes.
Speaker 7: It's not all the time. I work around a lot
Speaker 7: of people who do have a lot of money, whether
Speaker 7: it's liquid assets whatever, but he specifically gave me a
Speaker 7: weird vibe.
Speaker 13: There's been several of the times I've gotten that.
Speaker 7: There was actually one time I went to a club
Speaker 7: with a very very famous R and B singer guy
Speaker 7: and he had allegations and I kid you not after
Speaker 7: my interaction with him at the club, but we went
Speaker 7: to like a bowling alley and the club afterwards he
Speaker 7: did whatever they said he did because it was just
Speaker 7: just talking to me.
Speaker 1: Did you hang out with R Kelly?
Speaker 13: You could take like take like three more guesses.
Speaker 1: That's the I don't that's the only that actually might
Speaker 1: be the only R and.
Speaker 13: B C think Yeah, okay, then yo, but you he
Speaker 13: you don't.
Speaker 2: Have to say. You don't have to say what is no, no.
Speaker 7: But he was definitely off and whatever whatever they said
Speaker 7: he did, he definitely did one hundred and ten percent okay.
Speaker 7: But there's been several instance where I ran into like
Speaker 7: some really creepy, weird people.
Speaker 1: Have you met anyone who's nice? Have you met a
Speaker 1: lot of nice people?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 13: Yeah, Actually be surprised.
Speaker 7: I feel like in finance, I feel like a lot
Speaker 7: of people think like, oh, everyone's mean, stush suit and
Speaker 7: tie really rude, like you know how your first like
Speaker 7: question was like, have you met.
Speaker 13: Anyone that's thrown stuff at you?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, all tend to usually think it's like that,
Speaker 7: but no, Honestly, I feel like depend It depends on
Speaker 7: which firm you go to and who you work under.
Speaker 7: But depending on which firm or who you work under,
Speaker 7: you can find a lot of people who would want
Speaker 7: to help you and whatnot.
Speaker 2: What's your life like outside of finance?
Speaker 8: What do you do gaming? What do you what do
Speaker 8: you play?
Speaker 13: I played Grow Garden right now on Girl Garden.
Speaker 2: Girl Garden.
Speaker 13: It's on roadblocks. It's really dumb, but.
Speaker 1: You really go Garden sounds like what people derogatorily would
Speaker 1: call Stardoo Valley.
Speaker 2: You're playing the Girl Garden game?
Speaker 13: Yes, what's that's? What you say?
Speaker 2: Stardoo Valley?
Speaker 13: What's that?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: It's like it's like a garden game. I think, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've never played it, but it's like a farming simula.
Speaker 7: No, no, this one's it's called Girl Garden. I feel
Speaker 7: like you would like it.
Speaker 13: You should try it.
Speaker 1: I don't like sim games.
Speaker 13: Sim games. Wait, what do you mean sim games?
Speaker 2: You know what?
Speaker 8: I feel like?
Speaker 1: I didn't I even listen to you enough? What what
Speaker 1: what is girl garden?
Speaker 13: Okay, girl garden is is basically like a rodblocks.
Speaker 7: I mean you literally just grow a garden and then
Speaker 7: you could like sell your plants, and the more money
Speaker 7: you make, the more you can expand your garden, the
Speaker 7: bigger your garden. Again, then you could flex on some
Speaker 7: other people with some really cool plants.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry you're saying grow garden.
Speaker 13: Grow a garden.
Speaker 1: Oh I thought you said girl garden.
Speaker 7: Girl Garden. Yeah, I mean it might as well be
Speaker 7: grow garden.
Speaker 1: Okay and grow a garden. Yeah, oh okay, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: even ask what the game was.
Speaker 13: Yeah, it's called It's really fun, though. I feel like
Speaker 13: you like it.
Speaker 2: I mean, you're grow.
Speaker 1: A garden, You're you're perfect for I don't like I
Speaker 1: like games with objectives. I hate I hate like animal crossing.
Speaker 1: I hate animal Crossing. I hate Stardoo Valley, I hate Farmville.
Speaker 7: I don't like Farmville. I've I've tried Animal Crossing. I
Speaker 7: couldn't get into it. But I feel like grow Garden.
Speaker 7: You can make your own objectives as you go. But
Speaker 7: I guess I guess it's just I feel like you
Speaker 7: like more clear objectives, like this is the point is
Speaker 7: like a story based gus.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, if I wanted to like think about I like,
Speaker 1: there's too much going on in like my real life
Speaker 1: to start thinking about a virtual life, you.
Speaker 13: Know, to like create your own. Yeah, that's I don't
Speaker 13: like sims.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I hate you don't like sims. No, but grow
Speaker 1: a garden seems very simsy.
Speaker 13: No, not at all, grow garden. You're focused on your garden.
Speaker 7: Okay, you know you grow, grow, grow, and you could like,
Speaker 7: like my garden's cool.
Speaker 13: Ast shit, I can show you like my garden.
Speaker 1: You want to say, sure, what you have it on
Speaker 1: your phone?
Speaker 13: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Oh wait, this is an app game.
Speaker 13: No, it's I took a video of my garden.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah garden absolutely so.
Speaker 7: This is my me and my friend. This is my garden,
Speaker 7: and this is her I have forty three billion.
Speaker 1: And then she's aout, well you have forty three billion?
Speaker 7: What in the game? Forty three billion? Shekels and she's
Speaker 7: about a whip up. That's her flower that she grow.
Speaker 2: That sounds like a very inflated currency.
Speaker 13: No, I've made.
Speaker 3: I've made.
Speaker 13: It's I'm telling you.
Speaker 1: I know you have forty three billion, but it seemed
Speaker 1: like how much is that worth in like US dollars?
Speaker 13: I don't know, like one hundred million. I'm definitely up
Speaker 13: Like my network is like up there.
Speaker 8: Okay, like people.
Speaker 13: In my finance from they don't know.
Speaker 2: Do you do you invest?
Speaker 3: Hell?
Speaker 2: Yeah? What do you invest? What should we invest in?
Speaker 13: We should invest in? Elderberry? Are we talking about?
Speaker 3: Grow garden?
Speaker 13: Are you talking about real life?
Speaker 7: Oh?
Speaker 2: I guess real life?
Speaker 13: Okay, real life?
Speaker 3: Hmm?
Speaker 7: What should you invest in? I'd say property? Property is
Speaker 7: probably my biggest thing. I feel like, you know, land property,
Speaker 7: whatever the case may be. Land is a lot better though.
Speaker 1: Okay, where have you been buying lands?
Speaker 7: I'm I mean, I haven't been buying land yet, but
Speaker 7: if I do want to buy land, I feel like
Speaker 7: somewhere liked like maybe my Wyoming, Middle America or somewhere
Speaker 7: like I feel like it's the farmland out there is
Speaker 7: really good agriculture.
Speaker 2: You know, you could you could grow a garden.
Speaker 13: I r l there you go, we could grow garden together.
Speaker 2: That could be fun. Yeah, grow a garden.
Speaker 13: What about you? What's your favorite game?
Speaker 1: Super Smash Brother's Melee for the Nintendo GameCube.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, Mario Kart.
Speaker 13: Okay, okay, you're saying all the right woods.
Speaker 2: I'm a red dead redemption too.
Speaker 8: I'm a gotta get up.
Speaker 13: Are you serious? That's my favorite fucking game of Yes,
Speaker 13: I played.
Speaker 8: That game through and through, like make you play it on.
Speaker 13: I played it on PSI, my PS five at home.
Speaker 7: I also have it on PC because I console games
Speaker 7: like I played like shooter games on PC.
Speaker 13: I iced to stream stream ice to stream on Twitch.
Speaker 1: Wait wait really, yeah, what what happens?
Speaker 7: I stopped because I started once I started like taking
Speaker 7: my master's, Like it was hard for me to work
Speaker 7: full time, stream consistently and do school. And it's like,
Speaker 7: in order for me to do school, I have to work.
Speaker 7: I have to make money, and Twitch wasn't making me
Speaker 7: enough money. I feel like maybe once I'm done with school,
Speaker 7: I'll go back into it. But I have like a
Speaker 7: whole Discord community.
Speaker 1: Wait really, yeah? Can I ask what's your Do you
Speaker 1: ever you ever like hop on?
Speaker 10: Still?
Speaker 3: Hell?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Do the fans miss you?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 7: They're always asking me what I'm gonna get back on Twitch?
Speaker 7: Like I could go probably Like I got a d
Speaker 7: M yesterday asking me when I'm gonna get back on Twitch.
Speaker 2: Wait, what can I ask what your twitch is?
Speaker 13: Yeah, it's k l O v o x o and
Speaker 13: then a l O v v o.
Speaker 8: X cloth oxl cloxl.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's pretty hard to like remember, I need to
Speaker 7: change it to something more.
Speaker 13: What have you been streaming shooter games?
Speaker 12: So?
Speaker 7: Really like this was like when Fortnite was on the rise,
Speaker 7: but I would play Fortnite. What else would I play?
Speaker 7: It really just be Fortnight see us go. I played
Speaker 7: a little bit. I really liked Counterstrike Valeriant I tried
Speaker 7: to get into but I couldn't. And they'll know it's
Speaker 7: one more shooter that my friend had put me onto.
Speaker 13: But it's like a it's like a variant of Valorant.
Speaker 13: But it was really fun. I liked it.
Speaker 7: I have to find out the name. But it was
Speaker 7: mainly just shooter games I really like to play.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've thought about well, I mean I stream my
Speaker 1: like I stream this on Twitch.
Speaker 13: Why don't you stream like stream stream on like?
Speaker 2: I thought about it, dude.
Speaker 1: The other I thought about it, and I was like,
Speaker 1: maybe I'll start streaming video games on Twitch.
Speaker 13: If you look.
Speaker 1: It's like, I just like playing video games. I don't
Speaker 1: want to turn it into like a.
Speaker 7: That's where my issue was, is like it's people don't
Speaker 7: realize is especially when it comes to Twitch. I'm sure
Speaker 7: this is like people will be like, Oh, it's easy
Speaker 7: for you to like get you stup and go talk
Speaker 7: to people, but no, it's like emotionally taxing, draining at
Speaker 7: times where it's like, especially if you do it every day.
Speaker 13: Same thing with Twitch.
Speaker 7: I feel like, so it's like if you're doing something
Speaker 7: like on Twitch every day, you build a community and
Speaker 7: they're expecting you, it starts to take the fun out
Speaker 7: of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think, Well, here's the thing, is like there's
Speaker 1: a version of me streaming video games on Twitch that
Speaker 1: takes no emotional energy.
Speaker 2: At that point, it's like why do it?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 1: Yeah, like there's a version where I just sit in
Speaker 1: silence and play video games and I happen to be
Speaker 1: live and people in the chat talk to you.
Speaker 2: Would that be lame?
Speaker 13: No?
Speaker 2: No, whatever games I'm normally.
Speaker 7: Playing, have you seen? I mean I was gonna say, like,
Speaker 7: have you know Caso?
Speaker 13: Who Caso?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 13: You don't know who Keso is?
Speaker 2: Should I know?
Speaker 7: Does anyone here know who Keeso is? The Twitch streamer.
Speaker 7: Oh my god, he's fucking goded.
Speaker 4: How how no?
Speaker 13: Hell no, no, I was gonna say, no, Caso is attractive.
Speaker 13: Oh my god, come on, let's not do that because
Speaker 13: he's big. They're trying to make fun of because he's big. Yeah,
Speaker 13: he's hot. I think he's cute. He's cute.
Speaker 2: What's his deal.
Speaker 8: He's just a bigger guy.
Speaker 4: But he's cute.
Speaker 13: I don't know why people make fun of him immediately.
Speaker 13: I don't like that.
Speaker 7: But Caso's really funny. I love his Twitch streams. He
Speaker 7: could he tweaks out on tw sometimes, but it's just
Speaker 7: his personality. You also give me that vibere. It's like
Speaker 7: you could just talk about anything and he just streams
Speaker 7: and he doesn't even curse or anything, and he gets
Speaker 7: like fifty six thousand people per week.
Speaker 1: I would I thought about it, because, like I mean,
Speaker 1: I thought about like just playing.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I'll think about it.
Speaker 1: Yes, if people if people are listening to this and
Speaker 1: they're like, oh they should.
Speaker 7: I mean, if people are watching you. I mean it's
Speaker 7: like you already have a fan base. You already have
Speaker 7: a following. If you feel like you like games and
Speaker 7: you like talking to people, and sometimes you just don't
Speaker 7: feel like getting dressed up.
Speaker 13: You'll be surprised by who will tune in. I will
Speaker 13: tune in, you know, all right, I'll.
Speaker 2: Think about it.
Speaker 1: We could we could uh do a car like we
Speaker 1: could do a collabse stream Yeah. Yeah, if we could
Speaker 1: make a little we could we could do a little farm.
Speaker 13: A little grow garden farm.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, could you fight people in grol guarden? Is
Speaker 1: it like roadblocks where you do fights?
Speaker 13: No?
Speaker 7: But I have so you can steal from people's garden, Like, yes,
Speaker 7: do do you steal? People have stolen some really expressive
Speaker 7: mushrooms from me. But in order to steal you have
Speaker 7: to spend real money. So I've spent like upwards of
Speaker 7: like one hundred dollars stealing back from people who've stolen
Speaker 7: from me.
Speaker 1: That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Yeah, really, other
Speaker 1: people pay money to sit steal from you.
Speaker 8: Let me tell you.
Speaker 13: So, someone stole from my garden.
Speaker 7: Right, it was probably like a mushroom that was worth
Speaker 7: like a couple million. It had like all these mutations
Speaker 7: on it, super fucking dope, and she stole it from me.
Speaker 13: And I was like, did you steal from my garden.
Speaker 7: She was like, yeah, I'll do it again, and then
Speaker 7: she flips, she takes out the mushroom and then started
Speaker 7: flashing my mushroom in front of me after she stole
Speaker 7: it from me.
Speaker 2: This game sounds hard.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't play games that require an Internet connection
Speaker 1: for this reason.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 7: It's like, either you could come across like a really
Speaker 7: good community and girl garden, or you could get bullied
Speaker 7: by a bunch of ten year olds that like are
Speaker 7: using mommy, using mommy's credit card to steal all your
Speaker 7: and mind you like their garden will be like they'll
Speaker 7: have like a couple billion and they won't even need
Speaker 7: to steal from you, but they'll just steal from you.
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm gonna be I don't know, can
Speaker 1: that's how old you are twenty four? I'm twenty seven, Okay,
Speaker 1: I feel like at twenty seven, I'm like, I'm like, watch,
Speaker 1: I talked to somebody, So, I mean, normally this podcast
Speaker 1: is like phone calls. And I had a caller call
Speaker 1: me and be like, I'm thirty three years old and
Speaker 1: I just got into a huge fight with a thirteen
Speaker 1: year old on roadblocks and it's caused me to deeply
Speaker 1: existentially reevaluate my life. Yeah, and I don't want. I
Speaker 1: feel like that's gonna be me if I start playing.
Speaker 13: That's been me so many times.
Speaker 7: I probably cursed out I don't know how many people's
Speaker 7: children on roadblocks. I've cursed out peep on Girl Garden.
Speaker 7: I've cursed out people on Dressed to Impress.
Speaker 1: It's like, are you Are you okay? Is that a
Speaker 1: symptom of some underlying no?
Speaker 13: Because they're so like.
Speaker 7: The kids on there, they know how to push your button,
Speaker 7: so it's like they'll do certain things to try and
Speaker 7: push your buttons.
Speaker 13: Then you can't curse on roadblocks.
Speaker 1: Well that's so funny because I'm I'm sorry. I keep
Speaker 1: referencing other things that happened on this podcast, but some
Speaker 1: I talked to somebody I think it was maybe even
Speaker 1: on the last episode, and we talked about anger, like,
Speaker 1: like you know, like anger as a displacement mmm, and
Speaker 1: like the idea that like anger is usually just a
Speaker 1: displacement from something else. Yeah, Like you're not actually angry exactly.
Speaker 1: I'm actually angry at this kid on roadblocks, but in
Speaker 1: this moment, sometimes you genuinely just are angry at.
Speaker 7: The yes, I was just gonna say, I completely get
Speaker 7: what you're saying, because I mean, just as humans, it's
Speaker 7: like we could go through something and like me at work,
Speaker 7: like let's say i'll go through something, I can't necessarily
Speaker 7: curse out my boss, so maybe I'll take it out
Speaker 7: on rodblocks later on. No, I can't say. With robots,
Speaker 7: that's not the case. Those kids know how to push
Speaker 7: your button. It's like I've been I just cursed out
Speaker 7: a kid yesterday because I was playing among us and
Speaker 7: they purposely, like completely disregarded the fact that I was
Speaker 7: not the impostor and rowed everyone else up to throw
Speaker 7: me out the ship and kick me into the lava
Speaker 7: of flames.
Speaker 13: Turns out I wasn't in, so I'm gonna get riled
Speaker 13: up again.
Speaker 1: But yeah, they know how to push it.
Speaker 13: I really went off on this kid.
Speaker 7: But the thing is where robots is, you can't curse,
Speaker 7: so it just shows up as like the number sign,
Speaker 7: which is even more aggravating because.
Speaker 1: Like, well, I I gotta say, Clay, I had no
Speaker 1: interest in Fortnite or Roadblocks are among us before this conversation,
Speaker 1: but I'm happy that I have, and I have unfortunately
Speaker 1: even less now but uh, I'll give you.
Speaker 2: I'll give you a raid on Twitch sometimes.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I'm I'm not on there, but I
Speaker 7: will want you to be on Twitch.
Speaker 1: Okay, sweet s all right, I'll think of I'll think
Speaker 1: about it. I'll think about it. Is there anything else
Speaker 1: you want to say to the people before we go?
Speaker 7: Chloe, stay in school, stay in school, don't curst out
Speaker 7: kids on roadblocks, don't be like me.
Speaker 13: Yeah, it's not cool. And stop stealing people's ship on dressed.
Speaker 1: On paying money to steal something, you might as well
Speaker 1: pay for the things.
Speaker 13: That you stop stealing from my garden.
Speaker 2: Stop to steal. See you, kloy. What is your name, sir?
Speaker 3: I'm Rock Rock.
Speaker 5: Rock Yeah, like r O C K yeah, almost take
Speaker 5: out the k wait.
Speaker 2: How do you spell it?
Speaker 14: Take out the k r C Yeah?
Speaker 3: Rock?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a cool name.
Speaker 4: Thank you?
Speaker 3: What's up? Rock?
Speaker 2: Okay, we did a fist, But how's how's life?
Speaker 14: Rock?
Speaker 2: What are we up to?
Speaker 5: I'm not liking it much, but I just I came
Speaker 5: over here right now to say that I really like
Speaker 5: like goos are like my favorite animals. That's one thing, Like, uh,
Speaker 5: it's because of it's my favorite pokemon.
Speaker 2: Wait, give.
Speaker 1: I'm just checking and make sure that's so good. That's
Speaker 1: so good, okay, sick. I was just making sure sometimes
Speaker 1: the things.
Speaker 14: Up, ok yeah.
Speaker 5: And the other thing is my next session with my
Speaker 5: therapist might be my last one unfortunately, because I just
Speaker 5: missed him. He's gonna he's gonna do he's he's taking
Speaker 5: care of he's taking care of things, and uh, okay,
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna miss him. I missed my sister too
Speaker 5: because she moved out. I know those are like all
Speaker 5: of those like tangents. I don't mean to be this,
Speaker 5: I just wanted to say those two things.
Speaker 2: What's up with your sister again?
Speaker 5: She moved to Virginia. I haven't seen her in a minute,
Speaker 5: and she doesn't want contact with nobody in the house
Speaker 5: no more. Not to put on blast and ship. But
Speaker 5: you know that's just what it is.
Speaker 1: Well, we can we can, you know, we can talk
Speaker 1: about uh. I feel like for the last twenty minutes
Speaker 1: we were just talking about video games and fun light things,
Speaker 1: which is normally normally a lot of this show is
Speaker 1: talking about UH, like like intense, and I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: if you wanted to if you want to.
Speaker 8: Talk about in this highest life going bad.
Speaker 2: We can.
Speaker 14: In this hot as sun. Sure, I don't. I don't
Speaker 14: think I want to. I don't want to.
Speaker 5: I don't think I want to get that deep. I
Speaker 5: might get that deep. I want whatever you want.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 14: So here's the thing, right, I hope with the show.
Speaker 1: Okay, cool to say you've seen seen the show? Yeah, okay, sweet.
Speaker 14: Yeah, I'm I'm kind of a fan.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hell yeah, hell, thank you rock. I'm glad people
Speaker 1: are still listening to this.
Speaker 5: Yeah, episode was Zach Fox and all that.
Speaker 14: I'm a big fan of Zach Fox.
Speaker 3: And you.
Speaker 5: Uh And I just met what's his name, Mark Ribley
Speaker 5: and he was on the show too.
Speaker 14: Actually, yeah I remember.
Speaker 2: I think he's in New York, man.
Speaker 14: Yeah, so's it's just a lot going on today.
Speaker 2: You met him today?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Oh ship it was pretty cool, ye like Mark?
Speaker 2: Yeah, hit this park? Mark is in this park?
Speaker 5: No, not in not right now? It was like hours ago.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 14: So I'm a cartoonist and Archie Bornora.
Speaker 5: I'm low key like the best Marvel fan fiction writer
Speaker 5: like ever, and like nobody knows this because I haven't
Speaker 5: put anything out yet, but like ever since I was
Speaker 5: a six year old, I've been like a huge Marvel fan, right,
Speaker 5: And I've always wanted to write for them when I
Speaker 5: was younger, and I still want to write for them now.
Speaker 5: I still got these stories and I want to put
Speaker 5: them out. But it's all fan fiction at the fan
Speaker 5: fiction at the moment, I'm not I'm not here just
Speaker 5: to go off about this.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no, this is excellent. You were the
Speaker 1: best Marvel fan fiction writer. Yeah, tell me what is
Speaker 1: your Marvel fan fiction about?
Speaker 4: So?
Speaker 14: I got some ship right where it's like, oh my bad?
Speaker 2: Do you say what? Everyone?
Speaker 14: All right?
Speaker 3: Cool?
Speaker 14: So I got some shit like.
Speaker 5: I write for Loki type ship, Like I write stories
Speaker 5: for Loki because Loki is kind of a in a
Speaker 5: weird space right now.
Speaker 14: I don't want to geek out over this shit, right.
Speaker 2: You live your truth.
Speaker 5: Loki is in such a weird spot right now as
Speaker 5: a like Marvel villain, yeah you know what I mean.
Speaker 14: Like he's not even a.
Speaker 4: Villain no more.
Speaker 5: He like came back reborn as like a child since
Speaker 5: like twenty thirteen, and he's been on some shiit like
Speaker 5: he's been a young avenger, you know what I mean?
Speaker 5: And uh it kind of he kind of lost his
Speaker 5: soul as a villain because he's like one of the
Speaker 5: big Marvel villains villain.
Speaker 14: Because he's not a villain no more.
Speaker 1: Oh is he like Cannon? He's kind of he's I
Speaker 1: don't know much. I don't I'm not a big Marvel guy.
Speaker 1: But like, is Loki like an anti hero a bit?
Speaker 14: He's a full superhero now?
Speaker 2: Oh he is?
Speaker 14: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Okay, so he's not even doing like a Shadow of
Speaker 1: the Hedgehog thing where he's like he's a superhero, but
Speaker 1: he says.
Speaker 14: Fuck no, he's a full on superhero now, okay.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like and you missed when he was a dick, No,
Speaker 5: I miss more like if let's say, I don't want
Speaker 5: to give away too much, damn to give way too much?
Speaker 2: If you're Fana if not even yeah, but.
Speaker 14: Not just that, but like more like.
Speaker 5: If he's the first in the first Avengers comic book, right,
Speaker 5: he's the first villain they fight off fight against, right,
Speaker 5: and in the in the in the thor books, he's
Speaker 5: like built up to be like his arch nemesis, right,
Speaker 5: So like in twenty around twenty twelve, I don't know
Speaker 5: the story twenty twelve, twenty eleven, right, he dies as
Speaker 5: a villain comes back reborn as a kid, and he's
Speaker 5: on the Young Avengers and he's been a Young Avenger
Speaker 5: ever since, just growing up on there. I really don't
Speaker 5: want to ramble about this shit for too long, but
Speaker 5: I really like, I am passionate about this shit.
Speaker 14: I just don't want to ramble about this.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, well let me ask you this, right, because
Speaker 1: I do want to talk to you about something.
Speaker 2: Well, well, okay, I'm curious.
Speaker 1: I still want to I'm still about to a Marvel
Speaker 1: because all right, let me ask you this from like
Speaker 1: an intrinsic level.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what is it that connects you so deeply with Marvel?
Speaker 1: Because you see, you seem like a huge, huge, huge
Speaker 1: fan a big part of your life. Do you care
Speaker 1: about these characters as if they were people that you
Speaker 1: knew in your life?
Speaker 2: Like what what is that?
Speaker 5: One would be my cousin cousins, but two would be
Speaker 5: like the X Men. The x Men really resonated with
Speaker 5: the X Men growing up in the Hulk, of course,
Speaker 5: and stan Lee and stan Lee as well, because Stanley
Speaker 5: has always been uh an inspiration, like a little life inspiration.
Speaker 1: Act the X Men that that you saw, like did
Speaker 1: you see yourself and the X Men. What were the
Speaker 1: conflicts and the characters and the storylines where you were like, oh,
Speaker 1: I can relate.
Speaker 5: To this nothing. I just really thought Gambit en Rogue
Speaker 5: was cool. I thought Gambit was cool and Rogue was hot.
Speaker 1: I'm trying, you know, I'm trying to put some kind
Speaker 1: of philosophical whatever thing into it. It's like I just
Speaker 1: thought you were hot and cool. Yeah, which is just
Speaker 1: with a more normal answer.
Speaker 14: Yeah, I was a six year old.
Speaker 1: Yeah, really, I guess I didn't see myself in SpongeBob
Speaker 1: We Live. Me at six years old, Me at six
Speaker 1: years old and SpongeBob we didn't really have a lot
Speaker 1: in common, but I didn't.
Speaker 4: I liked it.
Speaker 2: He was cool.
Speaker 14: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So you write a lot of fan fiction.
Speaker 14: Yeah, kind of.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 14: I want to, I say, I write a lot of
Speaker 14: fan fiction.
Speaker 5: I got a lot of ideas from Marvel that like
Speaker 5: I'm I'm the guy I'm gonna tell you, like literally,
Speaker 5: here's what I've always been that like since high school,
Speaker 5: like genuinely.
Speaker 1: My philosophy on fan fiction. Here's the thing is that listen,
Speaker 1: how old how old is Spider Man?
Speaker 2: Like he's like eighty, right, by.
Speaker 14: Now seventy something, I think he's seventy six now.
Speaker 1: And Spider Man, and like Marvel was never really Marvel's.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're stan Lee, sure, but Marvel's not really
Speaker 1: in our tour project, you know.
Speaker 2: And what an our tour project like?
Speaker 1: It's not like what it's like, not like one person
Speaker 1: is driving what Spider Man is, right, spider Man. At
Speaker 1: this point, so many different people have written for Spider
Speaker 1: like Lily, hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people have
Speaker 1: written these Marvel stories for Spider Man and for the
Speaker 1: Hulk and for whatever, and so already these these characters
Speaker 1: have gone beyond ownership of one person and just into
Speaker 1: the public domain.
Speaker 9: I mean, not financially, I'm not gonna make any money
Speaker 9: off of your Spider Man fan fiction, because even if
Speaker 9: you could, the legal protections of America which would strike
Speaker 9: you down to doing that.
Speaker 1: But philosophically, we all own Spider Man, you know, not
Speaker 1: in like again, not in a financial sense, but phil
Speaker 1: we all owned spider So like, if you were to
Speaker 1: write a really good Spider Man comic, it would be
Speaker 1: legally speaking, fan fiction. What's the difference between that and
Speaker 1: whoever the fuck wrote the real thing, I guess besides
Speaker 1: the fact that they can make money of it.
Speaker 14: To a degree. You're absolutely right to a degree.
Speaker 5: But what it does is like when it's under the label,
Speaker 5: it kind of makes a cannon.
Speaker 2: But what is canon? Canon? Yeah, but stan Lee is
Speaker 2: fucking deadad.
Speaker 5: So we got decades of fans that like, have invested
Speaker 5: so much time in Cities comics, no matter how inconsistent
Speaker 5: they are, but there it's it's in a place where
Speaker 5: it's just.
Speaker 1: It's not it makes sorry. I'm on, I'm on, I'm
Speaker 1: speaking of it. I guess, like sometimes sometimes I get
Speaker 1: on this, Like sometimes I get on this like reality
Speaker 1: is a democracy train and then I'm like, but you
Speaker 1: gotta vote. You know, reality is a democracy, but you
Speaker 1: gotta vote, and in your vote, spider Man can be.
Speaker 2: You know, whatever you want. Yeah, you get a vote
Speaker 2: about Spider Man.
Speaker 14: But I don't want to write Spider Man.
Speaker 5: I'm yeah, like you're gonna.
Speaker 14: I love Marvel.
Speaker 5: I love Marvel in general, right, but like, I don't
Speaker 5: think I want to write Spider Man in specific.
Speaker 14: I do not own any merch. I kind of I
Speaker 14: kind of have nothing.
Speaker 1: I have Oh shirts, okay, I got shirt, you got
Speaker 1: a looky shirt.
Speaker 5: No, I gotta I got a Loki picture as a cat.
Speaker 5: I got a cat Loki picture.
Speaker 2: As a shirt.
Speaker 14: No, it's a picture in my house.
Speaker 2: What have you been to? Like, what's the theme park situation?
Speaker 14: I've never been to comic con either.
Speaker 5: I've been to comic Con once, like on a Sunday
Speaker 5: when I was a kid, Like once. I've always I've
Speaker 5: always wanted to go to comic Con.
Speaker 2: Are you born and raised in New York, Man, Yes? And
Speaker 2: so you ever go to like, yeah, New York Comic Con?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 14: No, once on a Sunday.
Speaker 2: Okay, how was it whack?
Speaker 5: Because it was a Sunday Comic.
Speaker 14: Con on Sundays and New York has always been.
Speaker 5: For decades. They don't they stop doing all the things,
Speaker 5: all the all the.
Speaker 1: Announcement people walking around with the in the costume.
Speaker 5: I mean, you could buy stuff and see cause players
Speaker 5: and take pictures with cosplayers, and that's fun itself.
Speaker 14: But I wanted to see the other stuff.
Speaker 5: What's the other stuff, like the announcements, the movie announcements,
Speaker 5: the the the the game announcements, the comic book announcements.
Speaker 5: Questioning the panel, I want to talk to the panel all,
Speaker 5: I've never done any of that.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, well, okay, what are you looking
Speaker 1: forward to in the Marvel universe?
Speaker 2: What should we be looking out for?
Speaker 14: I don't know right now.
Speaker 5: Unfortunately with me, I've always felt like they needed a
Speaker 5: hard reboot since twenty sixteen.
Speaker 14: I don't think it was John Hickman's fault like.
Speaker 5: That, that that Secret Wars was a soft reboot, and
Speaker 5: I don't think that's a secret anymore.
Speaker 14: It used to be my little secret. It's not a secret.
Speaker 5: I think like marveled needs a hard reboot, and I
Speaker 5: felt like I've always felt like I was I was
Speaker 5: the guy to do it, which is why I've made
Speaker 5: my own Marvel universe and all my uh, you have
Speaker 5: your own cannon genuinely, yes, that that part is true.
Speaker 1: Yes, And you have your own canon, and and is
Speaker 1: it just you mainly, right, Loki or the other guy?
Speaker 4: I write?
Speaker 14: Everybody?
Speaker 10: Man.
Speaker 5: The only only changes I even't made to Spider Man
Speaker 5: was the kid in the marriage. But that's already a thing.
Speaker 5: It's not cannon, but it's already a thing, like yeah,
Speaker 5: Spiderling and Spider and Spinneret, who was Mary Jane as
Speaker 5: Spider Man?
Speaker 1: I feel like I've told the story for when I
Speaker 1: was in high school. Yeah, I had a bet with
Speaker 1: my friend and because I had discovered this Spider Man.
Speaker 2: Maybe you know this because you're a big Marvel guy.
Speaker 1: There's a Spider Man comic where Spider Man kills Mary
Speaker 1: Jane with his radioactive seamen.
Speaker 2: Not it's the thing.
Speaker 1: It's a thing, a thing I don't know, and he
Speaker 1: doesn't like it's not like they have sex once and
Speaker 1: like he shoots come so fast that it like shoots
Speaker 1: through like a bullet or anything.
Speaker 2: What happened.
Speaker 1: What happens is she develops cancer as a result of
Speaker 1: like this is this is she develops cancer as a
Speaker 1: result of taking too many cream pies from Spider Man.
Speaker 1: And so I had a bet with my friend that
Speaker 1: this comic existed. Yes, Spider Man killed Mary Jane with
Speaker 1: his coms. Like that's not true.
Speaker 14: There's that happens.
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, like okay, I have more questions for you.
Speaker 1: But the And my friend was like, and I showed
Speaker 1: him the comic and my friend was like, she dies
Speaker 1: of cancer, not of come yeah, And I was like,
Speaker 1: fuck you, you only ten dollars.
Speaker 2: This is he killed her with the he definitely.
Speaker 1: He's like, no, the cancer killed her, not to come
Speaker 1: and I was like, fuck you, that's a technicality.
Speaker 2: It's like this day, he still thinks.
Speaker 14: He was like the microwave of the cancer, which came first.
Speaker 2: That's literally what he said.
Speaker 1: It's like saying like someone died of a microwave when
Speaker 1: they died of cancer. Yeah, And I'm like, anyway, wait,
Speaker 1: what's the sick Okay, you said the sick of stuff.
Speaker 1: What's the sickest thing that we might not know about
Speaker 1: that's hiding within the Marvel universe?
Speaker 5: So something that that genuinely happened, right, Norman Osborne the
Speaker 5: guy that kills Mary Jane by dropping her off a
Speaker 5: fucking building, Oh not not to say like that, by
Speaker 5: dropping her off for how else is there to say?
Speaker 14: By dropping her off a bridge?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 5: When after he kills her years later, right, he clones her?
Speaker 2: Whoa clones her?
Speaker 5: And then he has sex with the clone really and
Speaker 5: then they have kids. So now Harry Osbourne has a
Speaker 5: a Mary a clone baby sister, a clone baby sister
Speaker 5: between gwyn Stacy Norman?
Speaker 1: What what comic weird?
Speaker 12: Like?
Speaker 2: What comic is that?
Speaker 5: It's oh like two thousand and five, two thousand and six.
Speaker 5: I think around two thousand and four. Maybe, I don't know.
Speaker 5: I haven't read that either. I just know that that happened.
Speaker 1: And it's so funny that, like if you go, if
Speaker 1: you like on the shallow side of Marble, it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: Green Goblin robbed a bank, but Spider Man saved him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the at the deepest part of the iceberg, it's like
Speaker 1: the Green Goblin clone Spider Man's girlfriends and a child with.
Speaker 14: Her, and then the impregnated the clone.
Speaker 2: What's your life like outside of Marble man?
Speaker 4: Who are you?
Speaker 5: I'm just a cartoonist guy.
Speaker 14: Uh.
Speaker 5: I've been unemployed for a while, just trying to get
Speaker 5: some work. I want my video games really really badly,
Speaker 5: and to move out my mom's crib.
Speaker 10: Uh.
Speaker 14: And I make my own comic books, I make my
Speaker 14: own music.
Speaker 1: What video games have you? We just talked a lot
Speaker 1: about video games. I'll talk about him again.
Speaker 5: All all those Marvel games that's come up very recent.
Speaker 5: I'm a fighting game guy, but also Marble.
Speaker 2: Like Injustice, you're a Justice guy.
Speaker 5: Or I don't like Injustice or Teching. I don't play
Speaker 5: in Justice or Teching anymore.
Speaker 2: You hate d C.
Speaker 8: Right, I don't hate d C.
Speaker 2: You don't hate d C.
Speaker 14: I don't hate d C.
Speaker 2: I feel like you don't hate d C.
Speaker 5: I'm I'm like, I'm like a cult member when it
Speaker 5: comes to Marvel, and I'm a fan when it comes
Speaker 5: to d C.
Speaker 1: Okay, I thought you're a cult Marvel when it comes
Speaker 1: to Marvel, and like DC's the rival cults.
Speaker 14: Nah, I'm I don't. I don't have a beef of DC.
Speaker 1: Mean, so wait, what are the Marvel video games out?
Speaker 1: Lego Marble?
Speaker 2: The Lego Marble games are sick.
Speaker 5: I don't play Lego marbl either. I believe the Lego
Speaker 5: Marvel games is fun, though I used to. I used
Speaker 5: to play Lego games when I was a kid. I
Speaker 5: used to own Lego Star Wars or the PlayStation two.
Speaker 7: What job?
Speaker 1: What job did you have before you runemployed? Or were
Speaker 1: you in school?
Speaker 11: Uh?
Speaker 14: Not much, not not much. I don't want to talk
Speaker 14: about this.
Speaker 5: I just want to I just want to be employed, dog.
Speaker 2: What's your I wonder I'm trying to.
Speaker 1: I wonder if this podcast can help you find a
Speaker 1: job somehow likely.
Speaker 5: I'm not looking for anything in particular. I'm twenty eight.
Speaker 5: I just I do want to make my comic books.
Speaker 5: I got my comic books. Uh, but I need my
Speaker 5: money beforehand so I could illustrate more. Yeah, obviously, and
Speaker 5: play my video games more and live a happier life
Speaker 5: instead of uh, the ship people try to well project
Speaker 5: on me all fucking day.
Speaker 14: For the past five years.
Speaker 2: People are projecting projecting ship on you.
Speaker 14: I don't want to talk about it right now, but yeah,
Speaker 14: I know.
Speaker 5: Is there is there definitely definitely good place.
Speaker 3: To do that, right.
Speaker 1: We don't have to talk about that. I'm perfectly happy
Speaker 1: to have talked about Marvel and it's good.
Speaker 8: It's nice.
Speaker 1: I feel like to This podcast has been a nice
Speaker 1: We've talked about a lot of just episode freshing, episode,
Speaker 1: your name again, Rock?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Rock Rock.
Speaker 1: Is there anything else you gonna say to the people
Speaker 1: before we get out of here?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Follow me at Ace Rock Sola. I'm gonna I
Speaker 5: want to drop a song. I want to drop more music,
Speaker 5: I think, uh, and those comic books are definitely on
Speaker 5: the way. If more music ain't after that first couple songs, you.
Speaker 1: Want to talk, Oh, come on, I have a see it, sir.
Speaker 1: It'll be fun. He doesn't want to hit I want
Speaker 1: to do it. You can eat the ice cream on
Speaker 1: one at the same time. I want you can bring
Speaker 1: the you can bring the ice cream, all right, Rock.
Speaker 1: Very nice to meet you. Man, nice to meet you too.
Speaker 1: I uh, I'll see you in the universe. Dude, good
Speaker 1: luck with that.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Did you plug yourself just now?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Okay? Good good? Sorry?
Speaker 1: I was my brain can't focus on two things at once.
Speaker 1: I was trying to get that guy to talk. But
Speaker 1: give me give me a plug again because I want
Speaker 1: to follow you.
Speaker 14: Uh oh, ship, I got sweat my h.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what happens?
Speaker 5: Ace Rock Solo on Instagram Ace Rock Solo Yeah and
Speaker 5: coming soon.
Speaker 1: Okay, sick, thank you. Nice to meet your rock. I'll
Speaker 1: see around universe.
Speaker 14: Man, Sun, see you around the universe as well. Man,
Speaker 14: fuck with geckles, Thank you, I fuck with rocks.
Speaker 2: Where's that guy with the ice cream? Do you leave?
Speaker 2: What was he gone? I'm doing good? What's your name? Jayden?
Speaker 2: Nice to meet Jayden? What's up, Jane? What's the Jaden?
Speaker 2: What's the meaning of life?
Speaker 8: What's the meaning of life?
Speaker 10: Yeah, to live it.
Speaker 8: At the end of the day, you may not find
Speaker 8: your purpose. You may not have a purpose for real
Speaker 8: but at the end of the day, just live your
Speaker 8: life how you wanted to live it. If you want
Speaker 8: to be a bum the whole time, that's fun. If
Speaker 8: you wanted to like go do some something big, that's fun.
Speaker 8: You may leave a mark on the world, you may not.
Speaker 8: It doesn't matter. The war is gonna turn regardless of
Speaker 8: if you let the mark or not.
Speaker 1: Where How do you feel do you feel like being
Speaker 1: a bomber? Do you feel like doing stuff?
Speaker 8: I used to be a bum. I'm not gonna lot,
Speaker 8: but now I feel like doing things.
Speaker 2: What How did you change from bumming to doing things?
Speaker 8: I had to stop being depressed depressed?
Speaker 2: How did you stop being depressed?
Speaker 8: To be honest, I kind of have like a secret superpower.
Speaker 8: It's called being bipolar. So I smoked some wheed and
Speaker 8: I got manic and my depression went away. And since
Speaker 8: then I've just been on my ship.
Speaker 1: Wait, so smoking weird has gotten you on your ship?
Speaker 8: Yeah, it had me manic. When I smoke weed, I
Speaker 8: get more energy, I don't get I don't get d energized.
Speaker 2: That's so weird.
Speaker 1: Man. I've fully, I fully, full fully accepted that I
Speaker 1: think weed makes me depressed.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 8: No, it's opposite for me really, But you don't crash. No,
Speaker 8: you don't crash like in terms of my energy levels. Yeah, no, I.
Speaker 1: Thought it Isn't that one of like the hallmarks of
Speaker 1: mania is the crash.
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, but I'm not manic right now. I'm saying
Speaker 8: it does make me more manic. But like, I know
Speaker 8: how to like control myself now. But the first time
Speaker 8: I went madic, I didn't know what I was doing
Speaker 8: for I thought I was superman. I thought I was
Speaker 8: at a billion I thought I was I don't know
Speaker 8: who I thought it was.
Speaker 2: Are you are you high right now?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: Okay? Are you gonna get high after this?
Speaker 8: If someone has weed, I might smoke it, I might not.
Speaker 8: I don't know. I work at a dispensary, so oh
Speaker 8: you do.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's cool. What's it like working at a dispensary, to.
Speaker 8: Be honest, I haven't started yet. I have my My
Speaker 8: first day is probably gonna be sometime next week. I
Speaker 8: have an interview on Wednesday.
Speaker 10: It was pretty fire.
Speaker 8: I think it went well. And yeah, she says, you'll
Speaker 8: call me on Monday.
Speaker 2: Are you excited?
Speaker 8: Really exciting? I haven't worked. I haven't worked. I was
Speaker 8: in the military for three years, right in the Air Force.
Speaker 8: That's how I discovered that I was bi polar. You
Speaker 8: were in the military for it for how long years?
Speaker 8: Three years? Wow, that's how I just covered out by polar.
Speaker 2: How did you discover you were by polar?
Speaker 8: I had a manic episode and I was just going crazy,
Speaker 8: and then it got to a point I'm just like,
Speaker 8: I gotta I gotta go to mental health because I
Speaker 8: don't know what I'm doing anymore. I can't I'm not
Speaker 8: controlling my actions. I don't like who I am right now.
Speaker 8: So I went and I told me I'm having a
Speaker 8: mental breakdown this and that, and like, I was still
Speaker 8: manic though, so I didn't take it seriously. But eventually,
Speaker 8: if reality finally sat in, the depression set in after that.
Speaker 8: I was probably manned for like six months and then
Speaker 8: I was depressed for like nine months after that. So yeah,
Speaker 8: reality kind of set in for that. I learned my
Speaker 8: lessons and yeah, I'm not sure if I answered your question.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure I answer your question, but I think
Speaker 1: I don't need to answer any questions.
Speaker 8: I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: What was it like being in the Air Force. We
Speaker 1: just had a guy on last episode, who was over.
Speaker 2: The Air Force?
Speaker 8: Was really fun. I was in Alaska a joint joint
Speaker 8: based almador Forridgerson.
Speaker 4: It was a lot of fun.
Speaker 8: There was air shows. The summer is really good. The
Speaker 8: winter kind of suck because it's so much like dark.
Speaker 8: But in terms of the actual Air Force, I liked it.
Speaker 8: The people were cool. My job was pretty chill. I
Speaker 8: fixed the radars and so it wasn't bad. And yeah,
Speaker 8: I can't complain honestly.
Speaker 2: Do you do you miss the Air Force?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 8: I'm so glad to be my own person and have
Speaker 8: my own like schedule.
Speaker 1: So the person who came on last episode, we're talking
Speaker 1: about how like they're like being in the Air Force
Speaker 1: like made their like all their like mental health issues
Speaker 1: like worse.
Speaker 8: Yeah I believe that, do you Yeah? Do you feel
Speaker 8: that it was their job?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 2: Fuck?
Speaker 8: Because they were like a mechanic over with. If I
Speaker 8: was a mechanic, I would have straight up no. Lie,
Speaker 8: they work eighty They were like eighty plus hour weeks
Speaker 8: and they'll get no breaks.
Speaker 1: I know they're getting into HVAC, but that's not helpful
Speaker 1: at all. Nah. Is there a type of job that
Speaker 1: people who normally go into HVAC who were previously in
Speaker 1: the Air Force.
Speaker 8: Due Yeah, he was probably if he was doing HVAC,
Speaker 8: he was probably. Uh, he's probably HVAC in the Air Force.
Speaker 2: Okay say that. I don't think he was, but let's
Speaker 2: say that that's what he was doing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So, uh, is your mental health better after leaving
Speaker 1: the Air Force?
Speaker 8: Way better? Yeah, I'm not in Alaska where there's no
Speaker 8: sunlight for six months straight.
Speaker 1: Everyone I talked to you about Alaska says it drives them.
Speaker 1: It drives you crazy. You need to take vitamin D pills.
Speaker 1: So like, because you don't get enough sun you need
Speaker 1: to like be outdoorsy.
Speaker 8: Like if you don't like hiking and ship, good luck,
Speaker 8: because there's nothing else to do.
Speaker 1: So what's your What's what's like next for you?
Speaker 8: Was next to me get into the content creation? So
Speaker 8: I spent today getting content and it's kind of crazy.
Speaker 8: I saw you. I'm like, wow, it's actually a great
Speaker 8: content day. Like I'm at I'm gonna try to interview
Speaker 8: with you, and then yeah, so now I'm doing it
Speaker 8: with you and oh wait.
Speaker 1: You're also recording this for you for your content?
Speaker 8: No, no, no, no, I'm gonna sell your page. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 8: yeah we can, and I'm whatever you posting your story,
Speaker 8: I'm gonna repost it and.
Speaker 3: Go for it.
Speaker 4: And then.
Speaker 8: See this is honestly the first time that I've really
Speaker 8: going out and been like, yo, I'm gonna go get
Speaker 8: my own content.
Speaker 3: Wait.
Speaker 1: So we're so right now we're we're You're on my show,
Speaker 1: but I'm also on your show because you're gonna take
Speaker 1: and you're gonna repost it on your thing. So I'm
Speaker 1: on your show right now, all right, So you know,
Speaker 1: let's do this for this segment. I'm gonna I'm gonna
Speaker 1: let this be your show.
Speaker 7: All right.
Speaker 1: Bet, I have questions for you, all right, Yeah, have
Speaker 1: some questions right, all right, now I'm on your show.
Speaker 13: All right.
Speaker 8: Cool, we grab them real quick notes.
Speaker 2: So you're just gonna go.
Speaker 1: So, by the way, you totally can't do this, don't
Speaker 1: give So you'll you'll go on my YouTube and you
Speaker 1: just rip it and then you'll put it on this
Speaker 1: clip on.
Speaker 8: Your exactly your great. Yeah all right. My YouTube by
Speaker 8: the way is j x y d x N dot sixteen.
Speaker 8: All right, So first question is, Lyle, what are you
Speaker 8: willing to sell your soul for?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 2: Am I willing or nothing is worth it?
Speaker 1: I'm plenty of things are willing to sell myself.
Speaker 8: I think I didn't.
Speaker 1: I don't think you get through life without selling your
Speaker 1: soul at least a little true. Maybe I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe that maybe that's just a projection. I mean, have
Speaker 1: you ever sold your soul?
Speaker 2: You feel?
Speaker 8: Since we're talking a metaphorical sense, no, I haven't.
Speaker 2: I mean to generate.
Speaker 1: I mean, like, if you do anything that generates income,
Speaker 1: which most people do to create, to live, to live,
Speaker 1: you probably sell your soul in some way, shape or.
Speaker 8: Yeah, because you're doing something you don't have to do
Speaker 8: right something.
Speaker 1: Even if you're doing something that you like to do,
Speaker 1: maybe the way in which the thing you like to
Speaker 1: do makes money is a version of a soul, of
Speaker 1: a soul selling true. All right, now, what a great
Speaker 1: what This would be a great place for me to
Speaker 1: put an ad break.
Speaker 8: Go ahead, nice question. If you ruled the world like
Speaker 8: you were king of the world, right, what's the first
Speaker 8: thing you do to discipline people? And then what would
Speaker 8: you do to reward them?
Speaker 1: If I were the king of the world, Yes, I
Speaker 1: would never ever ever want to do that, but of
Speaker 1: course it was like gun to your head. You must
Speaker 1: be the ruler of the world. You must discipline the people.
Speaker 1: How would I discipline them?
Speaker 8: Yeah, like, what's one thing you would do? Like, what's
Speaker 8: one law you open out?
Speaker 2: I'd whip them.
Speaker 8: Huh, I'd whip them. You whip them? No, I don't
Speaker 8: know everyone in line for right now?
Speaker 2: How would I discipline the people?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 8: Like, all right, for example, one person said, no porn
Speaker 8: allowed at all. That's what you know? What with this?
Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you? Yeah, all right, so I
Speaker 2: have to discipline the people.
Speaker 8: It's just one it's just one lawyer to put out
Speaker 8: that discipline them?
Speaker 2: Can I be corrupt and like I don't have to
Speaker 2: follow it?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Sure?
Speaker 8: Okay?
Speaker 10: Who kids a fu?
Speaker 2: Alright? Then?
Speaker 1: Oh, no more sweethearts ropes ropes for anyone?
Speaker 8: Sweet they eat sweetheart ropes? Le's u punishment.
Speaker 1: No more sweethearts ropes for anyone. And if you eat.
Speaker 2: Sweetheart ropes, then you have to give me five dollars.
Speaker 8: So you're a bit nicer than the other guy. The
Speaker 8: other guy said that if they watch porn to get
Speaker 8: the guillotine, to get a hedgehopp.
Speaker 1: That's that's definitely said like a full like a head
Speaker 1: guilt getting your head chopped off. Really, yes, I mean
Speaker 1: at least like I feel, you know, if his name
Speaker 1: was by the way, his name was Raphael, Yes it was.
Speaker 2: That's that's that's spooky.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 2: I don't want to be if I have to be
Speaker 2: the king of something.
Speaker 8: Let's be a bit nicer. So, Hi, reward people, what's
Speaker 8: the what's the award given out?
Speaker 1: Well, I can't give everyone a million dollars because then, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll give everyone can have sweethearts ropes, so.
Speaker 8: To give you five ship all right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you're right.
Speaker 8: It all comes.
Speaker 1: Backward everyone with the sweetheart ropes. So that way, if
Speaker 1: they eat them, I get five dollars. So the reward
Speaker 1: is also a reward for me. I feel like everyone
Speaker 1: wins in this situation.
Speaker 10: All right.
Speaker 8: This question has been more controversial. Is religion holding mankind back?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: I think this way. I don't think religion is what's
Speaker 2: holding mankind back.
Speaker 8: Okay, you think we have other problems, that there's so.
Speaker 2: Many more things that are holding mankind back than really.
Speaker 14: Our goal.
Speaker 2: You think religions holding mankind back?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 8: Why, I think we're just too divided in our religions
Speaker 8: because at the end of the day, people like some
Speaker 8: people accept that, Okay, we're all worshiping the same gods's
Speaker 8: different ways. Yeah, it's just like if we all worship
Speaker 8: the same God in different ways, can we just like
Speaker 8: we don't have to agree on one way to do it,
Speaker 8: but can we just be like, can we just not
Speaker 8: judge other ways that people do it?
Speaker 1: Like it's it's religion. What's holding people? I feel like
Speaker 1: it's like politics are dividing people.
Speaker 8: Politicians politics can be used in religion though, like as
Speaker 8: that's what that's what Trump does. He'd be like, Yo,
Speaker 8: I'm a Christian this or that, and that's how you
Speaker 8: get someone his side.
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, that makes sense.
Speaker 8: Religion has always been what drives the people. The church
Speaker 8: and the state used to be like different things, or
Speaker 8: they used to be the same. It used to be
Speaker 8: the same.
Speaker 2: Say yeah, right right, that makes sense. That makes sense.
Speaker 8: So we're being honest.
Speaker 1: I don't know what's I don't know if anything is
Speaker 1: holding mankind back. I think mankind is unfolding as it
Speaker 1: was always going to.
Speaker 8: Fair enough, would you rather be in a zombie apocalypse
Speaker 8: or a plan of the apes?
Speaker 3: Takeover? Well?
Speaker 2: Take over? Okay, I'm gonna tell me if this is correct.
Speaker 1: When I think of a planet of the apes takeover,
Speaker 1: the apes have usurped the humans as they're on their
Speaker 1: way to doing it as the as the rulers.
Speaker 2: Right, so we're so so I still exist.
Speaker 8: I still lie.
Speaker 1: But I am a I am second class in the
Speaker 1: way that the dog is am. I. Well, okay, but like, okay,
Speaker 1: let me ask you this. How do the apes treat
Speaker 1: the humans? Are we domesticated? Are we subservient?
Speaker 7: How?
Speaker 8: In the in the movie?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I understand that.
Speaker 8: They treat humans like ship. I'm pretty sure they do.
Speaker 8: They cheated like ship, or they get rid of the humans.
Speaker 8: I think they get rid of the humans. Actually, I
Speaker 8: think I get I'll.
Speaker 2: Take my chance. I'll take my chances in the zombie bocalypse.
Speaker 8: Yeah, the apes really rip your face off in like
Speaker 8: half a second.
Speaker 1: Yeah that sounds horrible. Yeah, well, you got any more questions?
Speaker 8: Let's let me do one more and I'm gonna get
Speaker 8: about it. Is there a fifth next? Is there a
Speaker 8: fifth dimensioned?
Speaker 2: Probably?
Speaker 8: Probably?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Probably, I'm too stupid to know what it is?
Speaker 1: Again, Jayden, nice to be okay, rock and roll man,
Speaker 1: I'll see you around the universe of course later, Jayden, what's
Speaker 1: what's your show again?
Speaker 8: My show is j x Y d x N dot sixteen.
Speaker 8: You can find the all platforms.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Sick. There's a lot of letters, but we'll
Speaker 2: piece it together.
Speaker 15: It is just Jayden and exos instead of vowels. Okay, Sick,
Speaker 15: you should get it. You should do like, how about
Speaker 15: just the Jayden show. That's easier, fair enough? Okay, Well,
Speaker 15: it's just thing.
Speaker 8: My podcast is called on the Walk. Okay, all right,
Speaker 8: And then the segment I have is that's what I
Speaker 8: was the second right there. Either you ask the question
Speaker 8: or you'd be asked a question.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, Well this is all going on there.
Speaker 1: Sweet see you, jaydon see around the universe? Do you
Speaker 1: want to talk to a gecko about life? Have a seat?
Speaker 1: Have a seat. What's your name, sir? I'm Lou, Lou.
Speaker 3: What's up?
Speaker 2: Where are you from?
Speaker 1: Lou?
Speaker 3: From right here?
Speaker 2: Rock and roll?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 10: Where?
Speaker 2: How long you been in New York?
Speaker 4: For?
Speaker 12: Well, uh, but most of my life right over there
Speaker 12: that corner?
Speaker 8: Really?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you for your most of your life, you've been
Speaker 1: right over there in that corn.
Speaker 3: Right over in that corner of the park.
Speaker 1: And uh, how how has the park changed over your life?
Speaker 8: Uh?
Speaker 12: Well, you know, it went from totally fucking batshit bohemian,
Speaker 12: uh to super like safe and now batshit bohemian again.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: I mean I genuinely because I love I love this place, man,
Speaker 1: really like I love this fucking park, and I'm very
Speaker 1: curious about like, so when did it become safe and
Speaker 1: then when did it become bohemian again?
Speaker 12: Well, they close sections off of it, uh, to remodel
Speaker 12: everything and redo everything, and and it was safe after
Speaker 12: that for a while, and they were cracking down on
Speaker 12: people riding bikes and all that and smoking pot or
Speaker 12: selling pot. And then just recently, you know, there was
Speaker 12: like a stabbing over here, and and now since the
Speaker 12: whole legalization of weed, it's, uh, it's just turned into
Speaker 12: like a just like a bohemian free for all, which
Speaker 12: I think is good, except for the stabbings and uh,
Speaker 12: you know the uh, the needlework going on over here.
Speaker 12: And by needlework, I don't mean crocheting.
Speaker 1: Or anything, I mean stabbing, I mean needlework, you know.
Speaker 12: So that's why you see the cops over here on
Speaker 12: this corner, you know.
Speaker 3: So yeah, but you know New York City. What are
Speaker 3: you gonna do?
Speaker 12: You know, you stamp it out in one corner, it's
Speaker 12: gonna come up back on the other.
Speaker 3: Corner, you know.
Speaker 1: Interesting. So, like since the legalization of pot, you feel
Speaker 1: like this place has gotten more bohemian.
Speaker 3: Yeah, more free for all, more bohemian. But also at
Speaker 3: the same time, you know, I don't.
Speaker 12: Feel like it's like as dangerous as it was before
Speaker 12: when it was like illegal.
Speaker 1: So what's your what's your role in all this?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 2: What do you where do you where? Do you fit
Speaker 2: into the park?
Speaker 3: Do you feel I fit into the park?
Speaker 12: And then I just love to come here and and
Speaker 12: uh just take in you know, the diversity, the you know,
Speaker 12: the city life.
Speaker 3: I mean, you're not gonna.
Speaker 12: Get this in any you know, in on the continent,
Speaker 12: as I like to call it, over on the other
Speaker 12: side of the Jersey of that river over there.
Speaker 3: You know, it's you know, everything is here.
Speaker 12: This is kind of like the crossroads of the world really,
Speaker 12: you know, man, you know, even more so than than
Speaker 12: than then Times Square, you know, I mean it's the
Speaker 12: Times Square of the village, you know.
Speaker 3: And and if.
Speaker 12: If if New York is the the center of the world,
Speaker 12: then the village is the heart of it, you know,
Speaker 12: and we're at the heart of it.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 12: And and yeah, Times Square, Yeah that's the crossroads of
Speaker 12: the world. But you know that's that's like the pizza
Speaker 12: Hut McDonald's cross roads of the world.
Speaker 3: This is where it's at.
Speaker 2: Dude.
Speaker 1: It is like interesting to hear that they were once
Speaker 1: like cracking down on stuff, because it seems to me like,
Speaker 1: I mean, nobody in this park has a permit to
Speaker 1: be doing anything that they're doing.
Speaker 3: Right, No, And I do this.
Speaker 1: I do this all over the place, and and I
Speaker 1: get kicked out everywhere all all the time. I have
Speaker 1: to be on alert. Well you know, I've never got
Speaker 1: I never get kicked out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because you're green, stand out, you know. And yeah
Speaker 3: and uh yeah.
Speaker 12: You stand out and but yeah, but but you know,
Speaker 12: but this was like this is the center. This is
Speaker 12: the heart of the of the counter culture in you know,
Speaker 12: in this country, in the city, in the world.
Speaker 3: This part is where it all happened.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 12: This is where where everybody like rebelled against the establishment.
Speaker 12: You know, there is where people like actually they say
Speaker 12: they burnt their bras here, but I don't think anybody
Speaker 12: burnt their bras, they just threw them out, you know.
Speaker 12: And this is where gay life UH took center stage
Speaker 12: in in in in demanding independent thens, demanding freedom, demanding
Speaker 12: to be to just be, you know, and not just
Speaker 12: gay life, not just women's rights, but like we got
Speaker 12: people even now. You know, there's a center of like
Speaker 12: Palestinian rights.
Speaker 3: Of you know, and also Israeli rights.
Speaker 2: You know, always a protest.
Speaker 12: This is where it comes. It will start at Union
Speaker 12: Square and come here. It will start here, go to
Speaker 12: Union Square.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 12: The two epicenters of the two nexus of like of UH,
Speaker 12: of of just protests and of demanding rights are are
Speaker 12: here in Washington Square Park, Union Square.
Speaker 3: I feel privileged to to like to be here. I
Speaker 3: feel privileged to UH to witness what goes on here.
Speaker 3: I feel privileged to just live here.
Speaker 12: And I I know the cultural significance of this this.
Speaker 3: Location, yea, and I appreciate it, you know.
Speaker 12: And what sometimes I don't like it, but you know what,
Speaker 12: there's other people that don't like what I you know,
Speaker 12: you know, what goes on here, it's like it's always
Speaker 12: but this is the nexus of it all, you know,
Speaker 12: and from here it radiates out into the entire country.
Speaker 1: Mmm, I I you know, I like that, man, because
Speaker 1: I feel very like privileged and lucky to like get
Speaker 1: to do this here, Like I really, you know, I've
Speaker 1: gotten to do like these these streaming reviews and stuff
Speaker 1: like all over the place. But I just this, like
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, this park is like it's nothing
Speaker 1: like it anytime anytime I'm like feeling dude, anytime I'm
Speaker 1: feeling like depressed or I'm like, oh my life is
Speaker 1: over or whatever, because you know what, it's so beautiful
Speaker 1: about this party.
Speaker 2: It makes me feel so good.
Speaker 1: Is like every time I come here, I'm like, first
Speaker 1: of all, I see all different people of all different
Speaker 1: ages and all different but like exactly Kevin doing different things,
Speaker 1: and it's like.
Speaker 12: And just coming through or staying for a while or
Speaker 12: like you know, but this is it.
Speaker 1: It always makes me feel like alive again.
Speaker 12: You know, you're not going to find another place like
Speaker 12: this in this country. Maybe in Berlin, you know there's
Speaker 12: places like this in Berlin, but in this country, no,
Speaker 12: you know, this is it.
Speaker 1: I'm genuinely like curious, and I'm curious what you think about, Like,
Speaker 1: how is this vibe so well maintained. How is it
Speaker 1: that there are so many different people like how how
Speaker 1: it's like it's almost like this the the census is
Speaker 1: just naturally here a huge.
Speaker 12: Respect, you know what I mean, and everybody uh uh
Speaker 12: you appreciates the diversity of this place, you know. And
Speaker 12: and this is the really what this country is is
Speaker 12: all about, totally is about this place right here. It's
Speaker 12: about everybody coming to other no matter what, you know,
Speaker 12: if you smoke pot, if you don't smoke pot, if
Speaker 12: you you know, there's artists here, there's intellectuals here.
Speaker 3: We're right here at the center of one of.
Speaker 12: The uh the premiere intellectual you know, uh establishments of
Speaker 12: this country.
Speaker 3: And yu, yeah, you know, so you have all of that.
Speaker 12: You have the bohemians, you have the artists, you have
Speaker 12: the people shooting drugs over in that corner over there,
Speaker 12: you know, and well, you know, they're trying to get
Speaker 12: a hold of that, and I think they got they
Speaker 12: you know, I think the NYPD is doing a fairly
Speaker 12: decent job about it right now. I mean, there hasn't
Speaker 12: been major incidents but lately, and and I think everyone
Speaker 12: comes here knowing that they're going to find everything here.
Speaker 3: Even if it doesn't jibe with there what their global
Speaker 3: view is.
Speaker 12: Everyone comes here with that Okay, we come here with
Speaker 12: that mutual respect, okay, and and so, But unfortunately once
Speaker 12: they leave here, the mutual respect kind of goes out
Speaker 12: the window. But once you're here in Washington Square Park,
Speaker 12: you know, it's it's kind of like a neutral.
Speaker 3: Zone, you know, a neutral zone.
Speaker 12: For for for all the als of our society, of
Speaker 12: our world, you know, and and and everyone comes here
Speaker 12: to gawk at the other side of their worldview and
Speaker 12: and just be in all of it, or be in
Speaker 12: like or or or just be surprised at it or whatever.
Speaker 3: But like, you know what, you're in neutral territory here.
Speaker 12: You know, you're you're like, it's it's kind of like
Speaker 12: it's the United Nations here, you know, without the without
Speaker 12: the stuffiness of diplomacy.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 1: It's the United Nations here without the stuffiness of the
Speaker 1: diplomacy and the bureaucracy.
Speaker 12: And the bureaucracy exactly and uh and the and uh
Speaker 12: what what's the word I'm looking for? The the pompous.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's so interesting.
Speaker 1: I just you know, I'm just again like I'm in
Speaker 1: so awe of every time I come here, like there's
Speaker 1: such a vibe that's always so just.
Speaker 2: Naturally present and naturally curated.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 12: Yeah, you know, people know, people come here knowing that
Speaker 12: they're gonna come and see pretty much every other slice
Speaker 12: of humanity here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, so can I ask you? I'm what
Speaker 2: do you?
Speaker 7: What do you?
Speaker 4: What do you do?
Speaker 2: Do you make art of some kinder.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I dabble in arts of various kinds, yoga instructor.
Speaker 12: I'm an academic, I'm a bohemian.
Speaker 3: I I am a partier.
Speaker 12: I'm I'm everything that this place you know, encapsulates.
Speaker 2: Bro, tell me, tell me, tell me everything. Where do you?
Speaker 3: What do you?
Speaker 2: What do you teach?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 12: I taught yoga for many years, but before yoga and
Speaker 12: before pilates and before aqua aerobics and before like you know, uh,
Speaker 12: body awareness and emotional awareness, I taught geography at a
Speaker 12: local college here. And so I'm a teacher, you know,
Speaker 12: at heart, because of I because I had great teachers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, every teacher.
Speaker 12: That I've had from kindergarten to uh graduate school, I've
Speaker 12: admired and uh and I wanted to just fill that
Speaker 12: role and and wanted to be that. You know, I
Speaker 12: wanted to be what those people were for me. I
Speaker 12: wanted to be that for other people. I wanted to
Speaker 12: enlighten people. I wanted to wake people up. I wanted
Speaker 12: to just like, yeah, make them more aware of their environment,
Speaker 12: more aware of themselves. And so I did that in academia,
Speaker 12: and then I did that through yoga and through physical fitness,
Speaker 12: and uh, yeah, that's you know what I've been doing.
Speaker 12: I haven't been doing any of that lately because I'm
Speaker 12: taking care of my mother. You know, I've been taking
Speaker 12: care of my mother and that's another role that I've
Speaker 12: had to just kind of fall into and I've had
Speaker 12: to love and.
Speaker 3: Had to be thankful for that. It's made me a
Speaker 3: better person. Yeah, and.
Speaker 12: You know, yeah, next question.
Speaker 2: Does your mom live here?
Speaker 3: No, she's out of state.
Speaker 1: Okay, so have you've been spending a lot of time
Speaker 1: out of state?
Speaker 3: In and out, you know, back and forth.
Speaker 12: She's better now though, so I don't hear that. Yeah,
Speaker 12: but yeah, you know, I went to UH.
Speaker 3: You know, four years ago.
Speaker 12: I went back to UH to where she is at
Speaker 12: to say goodbye because she was done, you know, two
Speaker 12: weeks to live. And then I went back, and all
Speaker 12: of a sudden, she started coming back to life.
Speaker 3: Her kidneys came back, her liver came back, you know.
Speaker 12: But I still had to like take care of her,
Speaker 12: you know, changing diapers, you know, feeding, literally carrying her
Speaker 12: to the toilet, carrying her back, changing the diapers, changing
Speaker 12: the bed. And then little by little, like her, her
Speaker 12: kidneys came back, her liver came back, and now she can.
Speaker 3: Do that on her own, you know.
Speaker 12: I mean, and I like to think that I had
Speaker 12: something to do with that. You know, her son went
Speaker 12: back to take care of her, and that gave her
Speaker 12: some more life, some more reason to live. And and
Speaker 12: it gave me more reason to live.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 12: It gave me a purpose, you know, and it gave
Speaker 12: me Yeah, it just gave me a validity as far
Speaker 12: as uh.
Speaker 3: You know, like as a human being.
Speaker 12: You know, I know what it's like to take care
Speaker 12: of a human being in distress and at that point
Speaker 12: where they're about to perish, and to see them come
Speaker 12: back like that, yeah, you know, it just it just.
Speaker 3: Goes to show that compassion is healing, you know.
Speaker 12: And and if you wipe someone's ass, you know, there's
Speaker 12: a higher power or there's a power within them. There's
Speaker 12: whatever you know, they see that you know, if that
Speaker 12: you know, it's yeah, it's hard to put in words,
Speaker 12: you know, it's hard.
Speaker 3: To put in words that you know what it does.
Speaker 12: To yourself when you can find yourself in the position
Speaker 12: to be able to wipe someone's ass, someone's diaper, you know,
Speaker 12: and then for them, the one that you're doing that for,
Speaker 12: it gives them, like, you know, like a sense like
Speaker 12: they're still human, you know what I mean, they're not forgotten,
Speaker 12: and that gives them like a validation.
Speaker 1: When you're taking care of someone, there's almost like a
Speaker 1: I assume you feel a sort of like.
Speaker 3: And it makes the connections.
Speaker 1: I mean, like you kind of get back in what
Speaker 1: you put. You get back what you put in.
Speaker 12: You know, I think I got back what I put
Speaker 12: in because my mother is no longer.
Speaker 3: At death's doorstep. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 1: And do you have a Do you have siblings that
Speaker 1: were like helping you out at all?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I have siblings. No, they were not helping.
Speaker 12: They helped financially, but but no, they never changed the diaper.
Speaker 12: They were not there twenty four seven, Like I was,
Speaker 12: you know what I mean, I was there twenty four
Speaker 12: to seven. I couldn't sleep because I was sleeping next
Speaker 12: her while she was suffering. And during the day, I
Speaker 12: couldn't sleep because people were there visiting. So you know,
Speaker 12: for like a year and a half, I did not
Speaker 12: get any sleep at all, you know. And and I'm
Speaker 12: glad I did it.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 12: It wore me out, it aged me, but it aged
Speaker 12: me like a fine cheese, you know what I mean,
Speaker 12: age my spirit like a fine cheese.
Speaker 3: Now, you know what I mean.
Speaker 12: Like I am, my spirit is worth more now than
Speaker 12: it was when I went into that cave.
Speaker 1: How do you how do you feel day to day?
Speaker 3: I feel minute to minute. I can't do day to day.
Speaker 3: I have to do minute to minute, you know.
Speaker 12: And and I have to stay minute to minute, you know.
Speaker 3: The key to like.
Speaker 12: To sanity is to be in the moment and not
Speaker 12: in the past, not in the present, you know, not
Speaker 12: in the future, but in in the now, you know,
Speaker 12: And I have to.
Speaker 3: It's taught me to be more.
Speaker 12: More cognizant of that of of you know, am I
Speaker 12: being ruled by the past or the anxiety of the future,
Speaker 12: or am I not allowing myself to be in the
Speaker 12: joy of the present moment? You know, and right now,
Speaker 12: this is joy. We've got a beautiful day right now.
Speaker 12: You know, like, look at all these people, Look at
Speaker 12: all these artists, look at all these people.
Speaker 3: From all over the fucking world. You know, I'm so blessed.
Speaker 12: I'm so blessed to be here, you know, to be
Speaker 12: in the nexus the heart of New York, you know
Speaker 12: which is you know, the heart of New York is
Speaker 12: not Times Square, It's right here in the village.
Speaker 3: It's right where we're at right now.
Speaker 12: You know, the Times Square is like yeah, McDonald's and
Speaker 12: Sabarro's Pizza and whatever. You know, it's like that's just
Speaker 12: like marketing, that's capitalism. That's like, that's not what we
Speaker 12: want as a society.
Speaker 1: So I wanted to ask you when I was asking
Speaker 1: you about like kind of your life and you were
Speaker 1: kind of telling me these things you identify with you
Speaker 1: you mentioned that you were a bohemian. What does that
Speaker 1: mean to you to be a bohemian?
Speaker 12: So be a bohemian means that, you know, you don't
Speaker 12: subscribe to the societal demands of you know, what you
Speaker 12: need to acquire to be accepted, you know, like fuck
Speaker 12: your skis, fuck your cars, fuck.
Speaker 3: Like you know, you need to have this. You need
Speaker 3: to have that. You know, you need to be in
Speaker 3: the present moment. You need to be you need to
Speaker 3: cherish the people.
Speaker 12: Around you, you know, and you need to have people
Speaker 12: around you that cherish you. And that's what's important. It's
Speaker 12: not what. It's not what you have. You know, it's
Speaker 12: not where you live, it's not where you know, it's
Speaker 12: not material at all. You know, that's what you know.
Speaker 12: And and also you know it's about like seeing beyond borders,
Speaker 12: seen beyond nationalities.
Speaker 3: You know, nationalism is.
Speaker 12: Completely you know, totally detrimental to humanity. You know, we
Speaker 12: got to stop like us versus them mentality. Sure, you know,
Speaker 12: we have to just be all here, you know, just
Speaker 12: like we're all here at Washington Square Park. We're all
Speaker 12: here right now, and there's no one fighting here. There's
Speaker 12: no MK twenty, you know, there's no like machine guns
Speaker 12: going off here. But yet there's Muslims here, there's Jewish
Speaker 12: people here, there's Mexicans here. You know, everybody is right here,
Speaker 12: and look at this harmony that's going.
Speaker 3: On right now.
Speaker 12: You know, there's people that are like, you know, like
Speaker 12: smoking pop. There's people that are anti pop. But like
Speaker 12: everybody is enjoying this beautiful day. Everybody is enjoying each other.
Speaker 12: Everybody is enjoying gawking at each other, you know, without
Speaker 12: the you know, I don't know, maybe it's me without
Speaker 12: the judgment.
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe people are judging.
Speaker 12: But you know what, but but people are at least
Speaker 12: letting each other be here.
Speaker 2: Even the judgers are welcome.
Speaker 12: Even the judges are welcome, and they're amazed at how
Speaker 12: well a judgment. You know, how a society can can
Speaker 12: function so well here, you know, there there there seems
Speaker 12: to be no rules here.
Speaker 3: And look look at this place. There's no rules.
Speaker 8: Here, and yet anyone like dying here.
Speaker 12: No, everybody is enjoying themselves here. You know, there's not
Speaker 12: there's no one like suffering here. But there's people from.
Speaker 3: All over the world here. There's people from all all
Speaker 3: walks of life.
Speaker 12: There's like Republicans and Democrats, there's like but they all
Speaker 12: come here and they gawk at each other and they
Speaker 12: and and there's a mutual respect.
Speaker 1: Know, yeah, are you still at where do you?
Speaker 2: Where do you teach yoga? And everything? You have to
Speaker 2: talk to yourself? You don't want to, but I don't.
Speaker 12: Want to know I don't want to say where, but
Speaker 12: you know, family obligations have kept me from committing to anyone.
Speaker 3: Josh. Also, I'm older than I look, so.
Speaker 12: You know, I retired basically.
Speaker 3: Sure, Sure, so you look older than I look.
Speaker 12: I'm younger than I look young younger than I look,
Speaker 12: younger than I look. So I'm not working, you know.
Speaker 12: And but but I'm still working. I'm still working in
Speaker 12: the community.
Speaker 3: Cool, I'm still working on myself. And that never ends,
Speaker 3: you know, so long as that never ends, you know.
Speaker 1: Just trying to accept that that never ends.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I really don't.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm only uh, I don't know. I I I'd
Speaker 1: like it to end at some point, but I know
Speaker 1: it's never gonna end. You're always gonna want things, and
Speaker 1: you're always gonna Dude, my dad I was. I was
Speaker 1: hanging out with my dad and he pulled out this
Speaker 1: like notes app list of all these projects he wants
Speaker 1: to do and all these things he wants to do.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, crowd, it's gonna be me when
Speaker 1: I'm sixty six, you know, and he's I'm like, you know,
Speaker 1: it seems like it's just being ambitious for a whole lifetime.
Speaker 1: It seems like it seems exhausting sometimes, you know.
Speaker 12: Well, you know, part of part of like ending anxiety, ending,
Speaker 12: you know, angst and all that is knowing that it
Speaker 12: is gonna end, right, you know, that ultimate end of
Speaker 12: it all, you know, and yeah, it will end. But
Speaker 12: but we just have to be like where we're at
Speaker 12: right now, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I forgot how we got to like it's not
Speaker 3: ever gonna end.
Speaker 12: Uh, yeah, we're just having a conversation.
Speaker 1: What's your name again? Man, Lou Lou Lou. Thanks for
Speaker 1: thanks for extending your city bike my this is on uh,
Speaker 1: it's on YouTube.
Speaker 2: I do it as a podcast. I do it on YouTube.
Speaker 4: I can, I can.
Speaker 2: I can give you the info if you want.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, okay, good, all right. Well, you know you
Speaker 3: drew me into a conversation.
Speaker 1: Thanks for thanks for letting me draw you into it.
Speaker 1: I really do, I really appreciate the perspective man, because yeah,
Speaker 1: it's cool to hear a little bit about like the
Speaker 1: evolution of the park, because I really I do love
Speaker 1: this fucking place.
Speaker 2: You know, it's cool to hear out evolved.
Speaker 12: Well, this park has had a lot of evolutions, you know.
Speaker 12: I mean, you know that you know Washington like March's
Speaker 12: troops up in here, and you know there was a.
Speaker 3: Like slave burial ground for a while.
Speaker 12: Some skeletons were found up here on on the east side,
Speaker 12: uh during construction.
Speaker 8: So you know, I also I do.
Speaker 1: I love the quote on the top of the arch,
Speaker 1: the the let us raise a standard to which the
Speaker 1: wise and honest can repair.
Speaker 2: The event is in the hand of God.
Speaker 1: It's very like, it's very like, look, she's gonna go down.
Speaker 1: That's all in the hands of God. But like we'll
Speaker 1: be it's within our ability to at.
Speaker 2: Least repair it.
Speaker 3: And ship has gone down at this part, you know,
Speaker 3: but but it seems to always rise up.
Speaker 12: You know. Yeah, we're at the nexus of it all.
Speaker 12: Thank you so much, Thank you.
Speaker 1: So much for chatting with me. I appreciate it, man.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think anything in this would come
Speaker 1: back to haunt you, Dear God. Alright, all right, take
Speaker 1: care of you. Nice to meet you. That was a
Speaker 1: great interview.
Speaker 2: That was awesome.
Speaker 1: It was cool to get to talk to somebody who
Speaker 1: has uh been here for a while. And you know,
Speaker 1: he really did verbalize everything that I love about this
Speaker 1: place and what a great who do we all too?
Speaker 2: Do we all talk to?
Speaker 4: Today?
Speaker 1: We talked to the Marvel man. We talked to the
Speaker 1: video game finance lady. Who is the first person we
Speaker 1: talked to? Why do I not remember a lot? We
Speaker 1: had a lot of interviews today.
Speaker 2: They're all good.
Speaker 1: We talked to the guy about uh not being a bum.
Speaker 1: We talked to the musician, Oh yes, the musician man? Wait,
Speaker 1: who else? Who's the very first person? Were you not
Speaker 1: here for that? You weren't here for that? Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I remember them all being good. If
Speaker 1: I remember anything about them all?
Speaker 2: Where do we look? This is this?
Speaker 1: The podcast is called Therapy Gecko and on YouTube it's
Speaker 1: Lyle Forever. I don't know why I made them different things.
Speaker 1: I gotta change that. How long has this been going for?
Speaker 1: Or Lyle Forever and Therapy Gecko and and folks, folks
Speaker 1: listening at home, thanks for listening. I'm a gecko. Well
Speaker 1: I'm crazy. I love doing that. We come to this park.
Speaker 1: If you ever come to New York City, come to
Speaker 1: watch the Square Park. It's a lovely place.
Speaker 2: I'll be here every week that I can, I'll be here.
Speaker 1: I'll be here talking to people on the phone, talking
Speaker 1: to people in real life. You know, sometimes I sit
Speaker 1: and you know, sometimes I crash out, I go crazy,
Speaker 1: But then other times I'm remembered that I actually I
Speaker 1: love life, I love people. Everything's fine. I'm gonna go drink.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go drink the new Coke creamsicle. They have
Speaker 1: a Coke zero version of that. I'm gonna go get that.
Speaker 1: This is not an ad I were genuinely I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go get that. It's good, and they got a diet
Speaker 1: version of it. All right, I'm gonna stop talking. Thanks
Speaker 1: for listening to this podcast. Get Bliss