WEBVTT - “MY PANTS ARE $400” 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:04.520 Hello, and welcome to the Therapy Gecko podcast slash YouTube show. 0:00:04.840 --> 0:00:05.720 My name is Lyle. 0:00:06.040 --> 0:00:08.840 I'm dressed up as a lizard in the beating hot 0:00:08.920 --> 0:00:12.160 sun in the middle of Washington Square Park, New York City. 0:00:13.280 --> 0:00:16.439 It's a great day to be around other human beings 0:00:16.440 --> 0:00:18.760 on the earth. This is one of my favorite things 0:00:18.800 --> 0:00:21.279 to do in my life. Genuinely, I love doing this. 0:00:21.360 --> 0:00:24.840 I love coming out and uh, interviewing people and learning 0:00:24.880 --> 0:00:27.200 about people. And I love the energy of this park. 0:00:27.240 --> 0:00:29.960 I haven't shut up about it every episode. I love 0:00:29.960 --> 0:00:33.839 getting to be a part of the energy. And we're here. 0:00:33.840 --> 0:00:36.160 We're here, and we're gonna talk to some people and 0:00:36.520 --> 0:00:39.159 we're gonna do that until we get bored. So I 0:00:39.159 --> 0:00:40.880 don't I don't have anything else to say on this intro. 0:00:41.600 --> 0:00:45.800 Let's talk to some people. It's Gecko time. Hello Sarah. 0:00:45.800 --> 0:00:47.160 What is your name? 0:00:47.440 --> 0:00:47.879 Oscar? 0:00:48.320 --> 0:00:49.479 What's up? Oscar? How's life? 0:00:49.720 --> 0:00:50.920 Life is good? Man? Hold on me. 0:00:50.920 --> 0:00:53.920 Get comfortable, Yeah, get comfortable. We're gonna'm gonna ask you 0:00:53.920 --> 0:00:55.120 some of the some tough questions. 0:00:55.160 --> 0:00:57.240 Yeah, I'm ready, Are you really? I'm ready? 0:00:57.360 --> 0:01:01.240 Okay? What's the how's your love life? 0:01:01.520 --> 0:01:02.880 My love life? I'm single right now? 0:01:02.920 --> 0:01:03.120 Man? 0:01:03.160 --> 0:01:04.960 Okay, has that gone so good? 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:07.200 I mean, I'm not really focused on nobody but myself 0:01:07.240 --> 0:01:07.520 right now. 0:01:07.680 --> 0:01:09.559 Yeah, what do you? What are you focused on about yourself? 0:01:09.560 --> 0:01:12.199 Photography? Bro? Yeah, trying to make some money? 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:14.600 Man, how do you How does the photographer make money? 0:01:14.760 --> 0:01:14.960 Well? 0:01:15.040 --> 0:01:16.600 Right now, I'm just making I'm going around the city. 0:01:16.600 --> 0:01:19.880 I make tiktoks for people for free, random people. I 0:01:19.920 --> 0:01:20.880 do photo shoots for them. 0:01:21.200 --> 0:01:21.720 Uh. 0:01:21.800 --> 0:01:24.520 And on the side, I just do regular photo shoes 0:01:24.560 --> 0:01:26.800 besides the TikTok you okay, I just do photo. 0:01:26.560 --> 0:01:27.080 Shops of people. 0:01:27.080 --> 0:01:30.319 Who Who are these people that you're making these tiktoks for? 0:01:30.360 --> 0:01:32.760 Have you made a TikTok for anyone in particular recently 0:01:32.800 --> 0:01:34.520 that you were that you were excited about? 0:01:34.800 --> 0:01:36.840 Yeah, but this is random people. I literally don't know them. 0:01:37.000 --> 0:01:38.480 You don't know Have you ever ever made friends with 0:01:38.520 --> 0:01:39.160 any of these people? 0:01:39.200 --> 0:01:39.560 Of course? 0:01:39.640 --> 0:01:42.520 Of course I actually made one of my most recent 0:01:42.560 --> 0:01:45.679 ones I have she got she booked me again for 0:01:46.080 --> 0:01:48.400 tomorrow and Tuesday. 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:50.760 So really, what is that a friend? Or is that 0:01:50.880 --> 0:01:51.520 more of a client? 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:54.880 His client? But I met him just now, probably three 0:01:54.960 --> 0:01:55.280 days ago. 0:01:55.320 --> 0:01:56.720 Okay, what do you what is he booking you to do? 0:01:57.280 --> 0:01:57.520 A girl? 0:01:57.680 --> 0:01:59.840 A woman the city. 0:02:00.120 --> 0:02:03.560 Just pictures like pictures you know, with her in this 0:02:03.680 --> 0:02:07.400 train station or in the town of taxi stuff like that. 0:02:07.520 --> 0:02:09.560 Okay, do you make people look nice? 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:10.840 I do make people look nice. 0:02:10.960 --> 0:02:14.640 Could you make me look thirty pounds lighter if I 0:02:14.680 --> 0:02:15.160 asked you to? 0:02:15.320 --> 0:02:18.080 I probably can't really, Okay, all right, all right, I 0:02:18.120 --> 0:02:19.400 might get your card after this. 0:02:19.720 --> 0:02:20.920 You know what I'm saying, almost show you everything? 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:22.560 All right, all right, I'm excited to see that I 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:25.680 got you. All right, So people who are only listening 0:02:25.680 --> 0:02:27.680 to this on audio can't see this, but your pants 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:30.040 are bedazzled and jewels. 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:32.480 He's a Birth of a royal Child's I spent a 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:33.480 little pretty penny for. 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:35.400 These, right, how much were they? 0:02:35.720 --> 0:02:35.760 Like? 0:02:37.240 --> 0:02:39.960 These were four undred dollars? These are four hundred dollars. Wait, 0:02:39.960 --> 0:02:41.400 four hundred dollars for these shorts. 0:02:41.440 --> 0:02:44.240 Yeah, it's a brand called Birth of a Real Child. Okay, 0:02:44.320 --> 0:02:45.320 check them out. You know what I'm saying. 0:02:45.680 --> 0:02:48.520 Can't you just like can't you just like like you 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:49.960 can cause you can go to toys r us you 0:02:49.960 --> 0:02:52.160 can buy like a be Dazzler, and you can just 0:02:52.200 --> 0:02:52.799 do this at home. 0:02:52.880 --> 0:02:54.400 I just I just got it for the brand name. 0:02:54.480 --> 0:02:54.639 Mom. 0:02:54.720 --> 0:02:55.320 Well, love to you. 0:02:55.360 --> 0:02:57.320 Okay, yeah, okay, So what is that? 0:02:57.360 --> 0:03:01.480 Right? Because I know like people like they like Gucci 0:03:01.600 --> 0:03:04.800 and VERSACEI and what is that? What is what is 0:03:04.840 --> 0:03:05.680 the value of that? 0:03:06.480 --> 0:03:09.359 I'm gonna be honest, there's no value in it, be real. 0:03:09.400 --> 0:03:11.280 But you bought it, there is you bought spend four 0:03:11.320 --> 0:03:11.800 hundred dollars. 0:03:12.680 --> 0:03:14.320 Yeah, it makes me feel good, you know what I'm saying. 0:03:14.360 --> 0:03:17.240 This makes me feel better of myself, Like I made 0:03:17.240 --> 0:03:19.639 this money for myself. I could spend this money on myself. 0:03:19.639 --> 0:03:21.160 You know, I like spending money on myself. 0:03:21.200 --> 0:03:23.720 So yeah, how else do you spend money on yourself? 0:03:24.639 --> 0:03:25.079 Right now? 0:03:25.320 --> 0:03:27.480 The only thing I'm focused on those cameras, you know 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:28.720 what I'm saying. So I just bought a whole bunch 0:03:28.720 --> 0:03:31.680 of equipment. I spent over thousands of dollars on equipments. 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:33.440 Right now, I'm just on that. I don't really spend 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:34.920 money on anything else besides that right now. 0:03:34.960 --> 0:03:35.160 Close. 0:03:35.240 --> 0:03:36.600 I held off like I had these for a while, 0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:39.720 I used for a minute. I just started burying them again, 0:03:39.840 --> 0:03:41.880 probably no last month. 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:44.040 The camera stuff is good because that's I mean, you 0:03:44.040 --> 0:03:46.200 could that's a tax right off. Yeah, you can't write 0:03:46.240 --> 0:03:49.680 these off on your tax Actually I remember you. I 0:03:49.720 --> 0:03:52.840 don't know, like you know what? Okay, honestly, I bet like, 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:55.120 all right, Like if I was your if I was 0:03:55.160 --> 0:03:58.560 your CPA and you were getting audited and the I R. S. 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:01.880 Was like, yo, you what is this four hundred dollars 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:04.440 charge for pants? What is this four hundred dollars expense? 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:07.160 I'd be like, this is marketing, all right? People you 0:04:07.200 --> 0:04:10.040 have flashing pants. People come up to you, They're like, 0:04:10.040 --> 0:04:11.840 I like your pants. 0:04:11.680 --> 0:04:12.560 That's that's like. 0:04:13.080 --> 0:04:14.680 Uh, and so what do you do? 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:16.520 And then you're like on a photographer and then that's 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:18.400 your money and then we and then we'd go to jail. 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:24.520 Jail are going to jail for text from damn damn? 0:04:24.960 --> 0:04:26.800 How how what else is going on in your life? 0:04:26.880 --> 0:04:27.760 You seem carefree? 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:29.880 Oh yeah, I'm literally a chill gup, bro. 0:04:30.120 --> 0:04:31.960 Really I have a lot. 0:04:32.760 --> 0:04:35.200 I'm not really, I'm real privileged. 0:04:35.560 --> 0:04:37.239 Tell me more if you want to privilege. 0:04:37.400 --> 0:04:39.080 I mean you know what I'm saying. I miss I'm 0:04:39.080 --> 0:04:40.800 a little privileged. So I don't really have any worries 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:41.480 on stress. 0:04:41.279 --> 0:04:43.520 Right now, you know, Okay, I'm just trying to build 0:04:43.560 --> 0:04:46.960 myself who you know, build myself up become who I 0:04:47.000 --> 0:04:48.119 want to become, you know what I'm saying. 0:04:48.160 --> 0:04:50.839 So, have you ever had any stress or worries or yeah? 0:04:50.839 --> 0:04:53.080 Of course? I mean you know, you lose jobs. 0:04:53.240 --> 0:04:56.080 I had a job, lost it, multiple jobs, I lost it, 0:04:56.120 --> 0:04:58.560 So yeah, of course you you that's the only thing 0:04:58.560 --> 0:04:59.360 I have a stressed about. 0:04:59.360 --> 0:05:02.600 But I was only probably about a week. You don't 0:05:02.640 --> 0:05:03.400 stress over those. 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:04.560 Type of things too long, you know what I'm saying. 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:06.039 My photography makes up money. 0:05:06.680 --> 0:05:10.960 I'm good man sick really, you know I am. You 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:13.360 know what's funny is there's so there's two kinds of people. 0:05:13.480 --> 0:05:13.840 There's more. 0:05:13.839 --> 0:05:15.840 There's a spectrum of people. 0:05:16.640 --> 0:05:20.800 There's people who are like I can't possibly imagine how 0:05:20.839 --> 0:05:22.400 anyone could worry about anything. 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:24.160 Life is so easy and great. 0:05:24.640 --> 0:05:27.600 And then there's people who are like, I can't imagine 0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:30.080 how everyone is not running around screaming like their heads 0:05:30.120 --> 0:05:30.480 on fire. 0:05:30.640 --> 0:05:34.520 Certain people they they live they live like in the now. 0:05:34.880 --> 0:05:35.559 You know what I'm saying. 0:05:35.640 --> 0:05:38.560 Yeah, so it's kind of like they're stressing over problems 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:41.240 now instead of thinking like tomorrow, probably not even't stress 0:05:41.240 --> 0:05:42.919 over those type of things, you know what I'm saying, Like, 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:45.440 for instance, a love life, Yeah, you might break up 0:05:45.440 --> 0:05:47.320 with your girl right now. You might be mad right now, 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:49.479 but probably next week you're not gonna be You're not 0:05:49.480 --> 0:05:50.240 gonna think about that. 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:51.640 So that's why a lot of people are. 0:05:51.560 --> 0:05:56.560 Just next week's a little soon, right, Like if you were, 0:05:56.560 --> 0:05:57.880 like I don't know if you were, if you were 0:05:57.880 --> 0:05:59.800 in love with a woman for like five years and 0:05:59.800 --> 0:06:03.240 then you broke up, if by next week you were like, oh, 0:06:03.360 --> 0:06:03.720 what's her? 0:06:03.800 --> 0:06:05.760 I forgot her name? I mean, I'd like, I don't 0:06:05.760 --> 0:06:06.320 know if that was worth. 0:06:06.480 --> 0:06:08.719 Certain things you can't stress about you got no control over, 0:06:09.240 --> 0:06:10.920 So there's no need to stress over you know what 0:06:10.960 --> 0:06:14.320 I'm saying anything I don't have control over. I don't 0:06:14.320 --> 0:06:16.840 stress about a lot of control over. I'll stress about it. 0:06:17.160 --> 0:06:22.280 What do you what are you stressed about anything right now? No? 0:06:23.160 --> 0:06:24.400 Like right now? Do you mean like right now? Is 0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:25.280 in like the general right now? 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:28.200 Or it's like an exact moment where we're talking general 0:06:28.279 --> 0:06:28.600 right now? 0:06:28.720 --> 0:06:28.800 No? 0:06:29.120 --> 0:06:32.200 Cool, that's awesome in this exact moment. No, that's cool. 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:33.560 I'm trying to live in the moment a little bit 0:06:33.560 --> 0:06:33.880 more too. 0:06:34.120 --> 0:06:36.760 You should, bro. Yeah, it makes you feel free, bro. Yeah, 0:06:36.800 --> 0:06:38.400 I mean you kind of a kind of like a 0:06:38.760 --> 0:06:40.160 you free. I feel like you. 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:41.960 Well, I feel yeah, I feel I feel very in 0:06:42.000 --> 0:06:44.320 the moment. I feel very in the moment right now. 0:06:44.320 --> 0:06:46.280 People can't do the things you do right now. Oh 0:06:46.520 --> 0:06:47.800 this a lot of people can't do that. 0:06:47.960 --> 0:06:51.120 This, you know what is? This feels very uh normal 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:53.800 normal just doing this? Yeah, like I don't my heart 0:06:53.880 --> 0:06:56.400 rate is like that because that's who you are wrestling, this. 0:06:56.400 --> 0:06:57.479 Is who you is. 0:06:57.760 --> 0:06:59.800 I'm like this, unlike you, Bro, I'll do the same thing. 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:01.679 I go outside, talks random people. 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:02.880 They're just free. 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:03.120 Bro. 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:04.760 You know what I'm saying. It doesn't bother you. It 0:07:04.800 --> 0:07:05.960 shouldn't bother you. 0:07:06.000 --> 0:07:08.719 Why not you? I feel like I'm and here's the thing. 0:07:08.760 --> 0:07:13.560 And I may have talked about like like you like, 0:07:13.560 --> 0:07:16.040 it's something about having a costume or like a context 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:17.720 makes it way easier to talk to people. 0:07:18.200 --> 0:07:20.400 You know, funny birthdays on Halloween? 0:07:20.440 --> 0:07:24.000 Man, do you use that somehow? 0:07:24.680 --> 0:07:24.880 Yeah? 0:07:24.920 --> 0:07:27.800 This, well, this year, I'm definitely about to go full costume. 0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:29.080 What are you gonna be? 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:32.560 I'm thinking of being a realistic alien. 0:07:32.320 --> 0:07:36.440 Like the whole head, lips, moving skin, everything, Like I'm about. 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:38.480 To go crazy a realistic alien. 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:40.040 Yeah, I'm thinking about doing that. 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:43.640 I'm not sure yet it's either that or probably something 0:07:43.680 --> 0:07:47.000 like death Note the I forgot that guy's name, that's what. 0:07:47.080 --> 0:07:48.840 Are Are you an anime guy? 0:07:49.080 --> 0:07:49.120 No? 0:07:49.280 --> 0:07:51.560 Really? I just watch it here and in Okaya? 0:07:52.040 --> 0:07:52.360 What is it? 0:07:52.440 --> 0:07:54.600 What is death notice? Like this guy is a journal 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:57.880 If he writes to your name and it die, that's so. 0:07:58.280 --> 0:07:58.920 That's so cool. 0:07:58.920 --> 0:08:00.200 Bro Okay. 0:08:00.520 --> 0:08:02.760 I don't know anything about death Note, but it, like 0:08:04.440 --> 0:08:07.240 the premise sounds lame, like just a kid being like, 0:08:07.240 --> 0:08:08.920 all right, I'll write about you in my journal if 0:08:08.920 --> 0:08:09.520 you're meaning. 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:12.240 Right right right? Okay? When you put it like that, 0:08:12.360 --> 0:08:12.960 damn you? 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:15.960 That is it cooler than that? 0:08:16.040 --> 0:08:16.680 I believe it is. 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:19.040 The anime is super cool, but the movie ain't made. 0:08:19.040 --> 0:08:21.840 Maybe not, you know what I'm saying. But inmate, definitely 0:08:22.280 --> 0:08:24.080 definitely Town to ten. You should watch that, but you 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:25.840 should watch it, bro Okay. If you never watch you 0:08:25.840 --> 0:08:26.360 should watch it. 0:08:26.440 --> 0:08:28.920 Okay, Okay, I'll think about it. 0:08:29.280 --> 0:08:30.720 Many you got an Instagram or anything? 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:31.760 Yeah, I got an Instagram. 0:08:31.800 --> 0:08:36.160 It's at Lyle the number four ever. And you know 0:08:36.200 --> 0:08:39.959 what's fine is Lyle. The word the words Lyle forever 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:41.760 wasn't taken, but I just had the four. 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:43.760 Here. 0:08:44.720 --> 0:08:45.720 My fingers are a little. 0:08:46.040 --> 0:08:48.680 But if you search therapy Gecko, there's a green guy 0:08:48.720 --> 0:08:52.199 that comes up, and that's that's me. 0:08:52.720 --> 0:08:54.240 That's right, that's me. 0:08:54.720 --> 0:08:57.120 That's so crazy, man, that's well. 0:08:57.160 --> 0:08:59.840 What's your name? What's your name? Oscar. It's nice to 0:08:59.840 --> 0:09:01.960 me you, Oscar Oscars. Is there anything else you want 0:09:02.000 --> 0:09:03.640 to say to the people of the computer before we go? 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:05.360 I have a photography page. 0:09:05.360 --> 0:09:08.240 It's called the go Ahead, the mugshot Lab on Instagram, 0:09:08.360 --> 0:09:10.720 the what lab, the mug shot lab, the mugshot Lab. 0:09:11.920 --> 0:09:12.360 That's cool. 0:09:12.400 --> 0:09:14.240 Would you ever would you do that job? Would you 0:09:14.280 --> 0:09:16.600 take like mugs, like actual mug shots? 0:09:16.640 --> 0:09:17.000 Yeah? I have. 0:09:17.160 --> 0:09:20.360 I have a huge plan right now coming up, probably 0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:24.920 like by the beginning of September. Coming incorporates mug shots 0:09:24.920 --> 0:09:27.200 and stuff like that. It's all right, crazy but coming up. 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:27.360 Man. 0:09:27.440 --> 0:09:30.160 Yeah, all right, nice to meet you too, Oscar. Good 0:09:30.240 --> 0:09:32.840 luck with your with your life. Man, I'll see you. 0:09:32.960 --> 0:09:35.839 I'll see you on the universe maybe one time. I oh, yeah, 0:09:35.960 --> 0:09:38.520 I want to see those pictures. I'll tell you. I'll 0:09:38.559 --> 0:09:42.240 get them from you later. Everything okay, rock and roll, Yeah, 0:09:42.320 --> 0:09:44.240 I'll see it if you didn't. Man, all right, see you, Oscar. 0:09:46.120 --> 0:09:46.920 What's pleasure to me? 0:09:47.000 --> 0:09:47.200 You. 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:49.760 What's your name? My name is Solids Solace. 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:50.760 What's up? 0:09:50.800 --> 0:09:51.160 Solace? 0:09:51.400 --> 0:09:52.160 You know what's crazy? 0:09:52.200 --> 0:09:52.800 What's crazy? 0:09:52.920 --> 0:09:53.280 Our front? 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:54.760 The sleep to your video last night? 0:09:54.840 --> 0:09:57.320 Oh? No, ship really where they are? That's that's some 0:09:57.320 --> 0:09:58.560 some manifestation stuff. 0:09:58.960 --> 0:09:59.840 That's the present moment. 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:01.079 What video was it? 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:02.199 It was you and Dominic fight? 0:10:02.520 --> 0:10:03.080 Oh really? 0:10:03.360 --> 0:10:03.600 Yeah? 0:10:04.120 --> 0:10:06.560 I thought it was very funny, just like the energy 0:10:06.600 --> 0:10:08.000 of it was like very relaxed. 0:10:08.320 --> 0:10:09.120 Yeah. 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:10.560 He seems like a cool I don't know him, but 0:10:10.559 --> 0:10:12.560 he seems like a nice guy now he is. 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:13.760 I listen to his music. 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:14.400 That's cool. 0:10:14.440 --> 0:10:15.520 I like all types of music. 0:10:15.600 --> 0:10:19.080 What what you like all types of music music? Do 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:20.079 you like country music? 0:10:20.240 --> 0:10:21.080 I like country music? 0:10:21.160 --> 0:10:23.280 That everyone, that's what everyone. That's Severone's line is like. 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:25.800 They always say, I like I like all types of music, 0:10:25.800 --> 0:10:26.880 but I don't like country. 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:28.040 But like you don't like everything? 0:10:28.080 --> 0:10:30.520 Then do you like like scream out? Heavy metal? 0:10:30.559 --> 0:10:32.800 I make metal music. Scream Oh, I have a country 0:10:32.800 --> 0:10:35.320 song as well. My goal is I want to reach 0:10:35.360 --> 0:10:36.000 all audiences. 0:10:36.080 --> 0:10:39.240 I wanna literally, I don't know if you can do that, 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:43.840 you'll see reaching all audience. Think about I don't mean, 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:45.200 I don't mean, I don't know if you can do that. 0:10:45.520 --> 0:10:48.480 I like, I don't believe in you personal ability, but 0:10:48.600 --> 0:10:51.400 I I it's like, actually, you know what I'm gonna 0:10:51.440 --> 0:10:53.520 I'm gonna eat my words real quick because it's this band, 0:10:53.840 --> 0:10:56.480 one of my favorite bands, so I really like by 0:10:56.480 --> 0:11:01.400 the name of Ween, and they are like pretty genre lists, 0:11:02.000 --> 0:11:04.559 you know. They have they have country songs, and they 0:11:04.600 --> 0:11:07.200 have like rock songs, and they have heavy, punky songs, 0:11:07.280 --> 0:11:08.920 and they have all kinds of stuff. 0:11:08.960 --> 0:11:10.920 So I take I take back what I said you. 0:11:11.080 --> 0:11:14.160 I think you could definitely be a multi genre. 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:15.839 It's all about curiosity. 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:18.600 Yeah, what do you What are you curious about? These days? 0:11:19.640 --> 0:11:22.840 Everything about life is create Like, I think the goal 0:11:22.920 --> 0:11:26.360 is to lead life with acceptance, curiosity, and understanding. So 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:29.719 when you walk through life with those three principles, you 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:31.880 just grow and you realize more things. 0:11:31.960 --> 0:11:37.640 Acceptance, curiosity, and understanding. Our understanding and acceptance somewhat. 0:11:37.240 --> 0:11:38.880 Somewhat the same thing. Yeah, in a way. 0:11:39.240 --> 0:11:40.840 Yeah, sorry, I don't mean to nitpick your. 0:11:41.600 --> 0:11:45.280 Because think about it, it's like, yeah, somewhat they're kind 0:11:45.280 --> 0:11:47.040 of different. You could go if you really want to 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:49.080 nitpick it, we could like go into the differences, but 0:11:49.080 --> 0:11:49.960 they're pretty much the same. 0:11:49.960 --> 0:11:50.160 Thing. 0:11:50.280 --> 0:11:53.080 Do you are you doing a good job at accepting 0:11:53.400 --> 0:11:54.160 and they understand. 0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:55.440 Yeah, I remember that. 0:11:55.559 --> 0:11:57.439 Then it was a little bit harder, Like when you're younger, 0:11:57.480 --> 0:11:59.000 you're a little bit more stubborn for sure. 0:12:00.000 --> 0:12:02.600 Old you already seemed like a young guy. Yeah, I'm nineteen. Okay. 0:12:02.640 --> 0:12:06.160 Word and when you, uh, when you were young? What 0:12:06.280 --> 0:12:08.440 it was when we were younger? What was what was 0:12:08.520 --> 0:12:09.520 it hard to accept? 0:12:10.040 --> 0:12:12.240 I feel like, at least for me, it was hard 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:14.000 to accept who I was. 0:12:14.880 --> 0:12:17.600 If that makes sense, well, of course, yeah, yo, god, 0:12:17.960 --> 0:12:20.199 dear god, you don't want to accept who you are 0:12:20.240 --> 0:12:21.120 when you're sixteen. 0:12:21.559 --> 0:12:22.240 Very horrible. 0:12:22.520 --> 0:12:25.520 If you're fifteen and you were like, this is me forever, Yeah, 0:12:25.600 --> 0:12:26.160 of course not. 0:12:26.320 --> 0:12:28.240 You don't accept that. What were you? 0:12:29.600 --> 0:12:29.960 I don't know. 0:12:30.000 --> 0:12:32.200 I've always stood out because I perceived the world and 0:12:32.320 --> 0:12:36.360 kind of differently. Everyone perceives the world differently, but I 0:12:36.520 --> 0:12:38.920 just a lot of people didn't seem to understand how 0:12:39.000 --> 0:12:42.280 with like think and navigate through things and how I 0:12:42.360 --> 0:12:42.840 viewed things. 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:43.240 Yeah. 0:12:43.240 --> 0:12:46.160 So back then I used to think that was a negative. 0:12:46.160 --> 0:12:47.120 I thought that was a bad thing. 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:49.840 But when I became an artist, that's the thing that 0:12:49.880 --> 0:12:52.880 sets me apart. That's the thing that attracts people. That's 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:56.240 I become the voice for those people and people who 0:12:56.280 --> 0:12:57.000 feel similar. 0:12:57.520 --> 0:12:58.480 So it was a gift. 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:02.080 I feel like, yeah, it was a lot of accepting 0:13:02.080 --> 0:13:05.040 the bat and through making music, I've learned to just 0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:08.120 accept who I am fully, so it allows me to 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:08.880 be bothering. 0:13:08.920 --> 0:13:10.320 I don't even know if you want to accept who 0:13:10.320 --> 0:13:13.480 you are fully at nineteen? Don't you want to keep 0:13:13.800 --> 0:13:14.640 being malleable? 0:13:15.280 --> 0:13:17.600 I mean I evolve every day. I feel like we all, yeah, 0:13:17.800 --> 0:13:18.480 evolve every day. 0:13:18.480 --> 0:13:20.800 You're right, You're right, You're right, You're right. Actually, yeah, 0:13:20.840 --> 0:13:21.200 you're right. 0:13:21.240 --> 0:13:23.120 I actually think accepting who you are is good. 0:13:24.280 --> 0:13:26.559 How do you accept Like think about this, like what 0:13:26.760 --> 0:13:29.080 you've built for yourself and how far you came, Like 0:13:29.440 --> 0:13:30.880 this was just an idea in your head. 0:13:30.920 --> 0:13:35.160 Probably yeah, yeah. 0:13:34.840 --> 0:13:36.679 Well yeah, you know I agree with the Actually I'm 0:13:36.679 --> 0:13:38.520 trying to accept myself a little bit more. I'm trying to, 0:13:38.559 --> 0:13:43.880 like but I'm trying to become okay with being annoying 0:13:44.920 --> 0:13:45.480 you know what I mean? 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:49.400 What do you think is annoying about anything that you do? 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:49.959 Well? 0:13:50.200 --> 0:13:50.719 You know what I mean? 0:13:50.760 --> 0:13:53.000 Like, like, I think I've talked about this on the 0:13:53.000 --> 0:13:55.480 show for but like you ever like you ever go 0:13:55.559 --> 0:13:57.960 to a party or a social situation and you walk 0:13:58.000 --> 0:14:00.360 away and you're like, oh, I think I was a 0:14:00.400 --> 0:14:03.280 little annoying. Yeah, or I was maybe I don't know, 0:14:03.280 --> 0:14:06.000 maybe you got drunk, you said something stupid, you know, 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:09.040 not not like hostile or malicious, but you're just like 0:14:09.160 --> 0:14:11.160 a hostile and malicious is a different thing. 0:14:11.480 --> 0:14:12.199 That's more of a thing. 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:13.839 Like if you feel like, oh I was hostile or 0:14:13.880 --> 0:14:16.120 I was malicious, that's the kind of stuff you want 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:17.200 to like, oh I gotta change that. 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:17.520 Yeah. 0:14:17.600 --> 0:14:20.840 But if you were just annoying, it's fine. Yeah, you 0:14:20.880 --> 0:14:23.920 know you know what I mean, Like, uh, oh I 0:14:23.960 --> 0:14:26.520 was a little loud er. I just tried to be funny. 0:14:26.560 --> 0:14:28.600 It's interesting that you say It's like, that's fine. 0:14:28.640 --> 0:14:30.000 You just get accepted about yourself. 0:14:30.000 --> 0:14:32.560 It's interesting you say that because as an artist, you've 0:14:32.560 --> 0:14:33.360 got to be annoying. 0:14:33.360 --> 0:14:35.360 You gotta be annoying. Yeah, you gotta be annoying. 0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:38.400 And I feel like when you're doing anything that's different creative, 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:41.760 you're so eager to show it and to be like, 0:14:41.800 --> 0:14:45.120 oh I do this, or like when you're so passionate 0:14:45.160 --> 0:14:47.320 about life and things, you could go on forever about 0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:49.120 it and just talk about forever and go on forever. 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:52.040 But you may walk around from a situation be like 0:14:52.120 --> 0:14:54.360 was I annoying? Because some people they don't know how 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:57.240 to reciprocate that energy. Like if I went to you 0:14:57.800 --> 0:14:59.920 and talked about music because I love it so much, 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:02.560 I'll probably talk about it at a depth and a 0:15:02.640 --> 0:15:05.240 level that you might not quite understand or be. 0:15:05.240 --> 0:15:08.440 Able to like reciprocate. Sure, but that. 0:15:08.480 --> 0:15:10.640 Way, like you would get into like keys and notes 0:15:10.680 --> 0:15:11.320 and stuff. 0:15:11.080 --> 0:15:14.000 That even I'm more about the feeling of it, which matters. 0:15:14.000 --> 0:15:15.320 But we live in a world where a lot of 0:15:15.320 --> 0:15:16.520 people they don't really feel. 0:15:18.120 --> 0:15:19.320 What do you. 0:15:20.600 --> 0:15:20.680 Do? 0:15:20.760 --> 0:15:21.640 You really believe that? 0:15:22.040 --> 0:15:25.280 Not fully, I feel like people feel, but they like 0:15:25.320 --> 0:15:26.120 to distract themselves. 0:15:26.160 --> 0:15:27.680 Think about the phone? What is it doing? 0:15:27.920 --> 0:15:30.640 Of course, because when you sit with yourself and when 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:32.360 you're by yourself and you're alone. 0:15:32.160 --> 0:15:35.680 Yeah, that's if you walk around being like I might. 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:38.800 If you walk around being like I'm gonna talk about 0:15:38.880 --> 0:15:42.320 music and it's such a way that uh, people will 0:15:42.360 --> 0:15:46.280 not understand because most people don't feel you're gonna isolate yourself. 0:15:46.600 --> 0:15:46.840 That. 0:15:47.080 --> 0:15:48.760 I like that you say that, But for me, it 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:50.840 was more just like I don't think I just go 0:15:50.920 --> 0:15:52.360 with the flow in the moment, just like you were 0:15:52.360 --> 0:15:55.200 saying earlier. And when you're in the moment and you're 0:15:55.200 --> 0:15:58.320 not thinking, the feeling just leads everything. Like right now, 0:15:58.360 --> 0:16:01.080 as I'm talking, there's no thought, it's just a flow 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:02.479 of conversation between. 0:16:02.240 --> 0:16:03.320 I'm sure we're in a flow state. 0:16:03.600 --> 0:16:05.560 Yeah, I agree with that if people aren't in that 0:16:05.600 --> 0:16:06.160 flow state. 0:16:07.240 --> 0:16:08.640 But but yeah, but you have no fun. 0:16:08.760 --> 0:16:11.720 You have no idea what anyone else is that anything, 0:16:11.800 --> 0:16:14.360 and no clue. Man, that could be a projection. But 0:16:14.440 --> 0:16:16.000 I'm not saying that you as you. I'm saying the 0:16:16.080 --> 0:16:19.240 general you. You know you, Like I was trying to 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:23.280 explain the concept of sollipsism to someone the other day. 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:26.200 I was I was really boring them, but I was 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:27.520 trying to I was trying to do you know what 0:16:27.560 --> 0:16:28.360 syllipsism is. 0:16:28.400 --> 0:16:31.560 It's uh, the first part of it sounds familiar, but 0:16:31.600 --> 0:16:32.320 the end of it. 0:16:32.680 --> 0:16:34.040 Oh, I talked about this on the pocket. 0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:36.880 It's like the idea that your own consciousness is the 0:16:36.880 --> 0:16:41.880 only thing you can truly verify, and it's uh, you 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:44.560 have no idea what anyone else is thinking or feeling. 0:16:44.600 --> 0:16:46.520 So if you walk around you have this preconceived notion 0:16:46.600 --> 0:16:49.040 of like all other people are not gonna understand me, 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:52.240 then you don't take chances you don't you won't be 0:16:52.360 --> 0:16:56.120 vulnerable in such a way that you can allow yourself 0:16:56.160 --> 0:16:56.480 to be. 0:16:56.720 --> 0:16:59.200 Also goes with the flow because you're not thinking, You're 0:16:59.240 --> 0:17:02.760 not worried about what do people are thinking? Yeah, because 0:17:02.760 --> 0:17:04.439 I've really it's like the law of assumption, which you 0:17:04.520 --> 0:17:06.280 assume is what is. 0:17:07.000 --> 0:17:08.879 A sort of sort of I don't know. 0:17:08.960 --> 0:17:11.679 I feel like there's a lot of situations I've been 0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:14.240 in where like maybe like I'll be in a conversation 0:17:14.800 --> 0:17:17.240 and I'll be like, I'll be like, this person is 0:17:17.240 --> 0:17:19.760 probably not on my level of understanding of this situation 0:17:19.880 --> 0:17:24.199 right now, I relate to well, okay, right, But then 0:17:24.280 --> 0:17:26.440 three days later, but then you look back on that conversation, 0:17:26.560 --> 0:17:28.360 like you're like, well, then you look back at the conversation, 0:17:28.400 --> 0:17:30.119 You're like, oh, no, that person probably just thought I 0:17:30.240 --> 0:17:34.439 was a douchebag, or that person probably like you know, 0:17:34.680 --> 0:17:37.680 I was, I was the one who didn't understand. That's 0:17:37.760 --> 0:17:42.280 always default to believing that you don't understand, which is 0:17:42.320 --> 0:17:45.840 funny because that you're you're helplessly surrendering to the universe. 0:17:45.840 --> 0:17:50.000 That's kind of a construct and like a belief system. 0:17:50.080 --> 0:17:52.160 Like I viewed like this, our brain is like a computer, 0:17:52.560 --> 0:17:55.280 and we got these programs that are really negative. Yeah, 0:17:55.359 --> 0:17:57.879 that we naturally go to the negative program. Yeah, I 0:17:57.880 --> 0:18:00.400 believe that instead of like a positive program. Yeah, which 0:18:00.480 --> 0:18:03.560 is like kind of like what rebuilding your subconscious is, 0:18:03.760 --> 0:18:06.240 because you could you could reprogram yourself that every time 0:18:06.240 --> 0:18:08.680 you meet somebody and talk to somebody, that you think 0:18:08.720 --> 0:18:11.840 of positive things, that they only thought about you positively, 0:18:12.200 --> 0:18:15.680 and if you change that thought. Because consciousness, everything is 0:18:15.680 --> 0:18:18.320 a reflection of your consciousness. So the more you heal 0:18:18.560 --> 0:18:23.080 and fix yourself eternally, the more externally everything's more comfortable. 0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:24.320 I would say, oh, I agree with that. 0:18:24.640 --> 0:18:28.080 No, I fully believe in the internal reality, the internal 0:18:28.400 --> 0:18:29.960 thing or reflection of the external. 0:18:30.359 --> 0:18:30.560 Yeah. 0:18:30.600 --> 0:18:32.760 You know, sometimes it feels like you you're live in 0:18:32.760 --> 0:18:33.280 a prison. 0:18:33.480 --> 0:18:35.960 If you're on making like that, I feel like. 0:18:35.920 --> 0:18:38.800 The mental pain is like probably the worst pain. 0:18:40.320 --> 0:18:45.199 Do you have any hobbies? I skate obviously. Music, Music's 0:18:45.240 --> 0:18:47.919 my life. Like I'm very I have a weird I 0:18:48.000 --> 0:18:50.480 work every day, so every day i'm either if i'm 0:18:50.480 --> 0:18:53.000 not if i'm home, I'm always recording, I mix it. 0:18:53.119 --> 0:18:55.840 I do everything engineered by myself. I do all tiffic 0:18:55.840 --> 0:18:58.200 types of genres. I'm always studying music. 0:18:58.480 --> 0:19:01.000 I study the greats, and I study older people, people 0:19:01.000 --> 0:19:01.680 from now. 0:19:01.560 --> 0:19:03.080 But like Mozart and shit. 0:19:03.240 --> 0:19:05.439 Even bro even I had a friend he showed me 0:19:06.000 --> 0:19:09.720 this like Mozart movie we're about, like this movie about Mozart, 0:19:09.880 --> 0:19:12.760 and there's a scene in the movie about how he 0:19:12.800 --> 0:19:15.320 came up with one of his songs and he was 0:19:15.359 --> 0:19:19.080 showing me, and I genuinely was interested because like the 0:19:19.119 --> 0:19:20.800 way that they showed it in the in like the 0:19:20.800 --> 0:19:24.280 movie and the Bible pic and it's like they were 0:19:24.280 --> 0:19:27.240 making music in an old traditional way. But I was 0:19:27.240 --> 0:19:30.639 able to see how it evolved to how we make 0:19:30.720 --> 0:19:31.280 music today. 0:19:31.320 --> 0:19:35.800 Oh sure, yeah, everything everything's I feel like, Yeah, philosophy 0:19:35.880 --> 0:19:38.439 is like that. All the thoughts that we think are 0:19:38.520 --> 0:19:40.560 unique have been thought about by some fucking guy a 0:19:40.560 --> 0:19:42.520 billion years ago, and it's. 0:19:42.400 --> 0:19:45.399 Like crazy to think about because like when when you 0:19:45.440 --> 0:19:46.919 think about things like those, I feel like you just 0:19:46.960 --> 0:19:48.000 appreciate life more. 0:19:48.600 --> 0:19:49.440 What's your name again? 0:19:49.520 --> 0:19:51.199 My name is saw This sauce is the anything else 0:19:51.200 --> 0:19:52.520 you want to say to the people of the computer. 0:19:52.240 --> 0:19:52.760 Before we go. 0:19:55.119 --> 0:19:57.400 Always believing yourself and everything is possible. 0:19:57.680 --> 0:19:59.760 And whatever makes you feel and makes you feel the 0:19:59.840 --> 0:20:02.880 mo happy inside, chase it and keep feeling your love 0:20:02.880 --> 0:20:04.359 and passion for things in the world. 0:20:04.640 --> 0:20:08.000 And literally anything you could think of is possible. 0:20:08.040 --> 0:20:09.760 I would have never thought I could do the things 0:20:09.800 --> 0:20:11.760 that I could do, like perform and all the cool shit, 0:20:12.240 --> 0:20:12.920 even meeting him. 0:20:12.920 --> 0:20:18.159 Literally, I fell asleep to his video. Literally, and now right. 0:20:18.000 --> 0:20:21.760 Here except flight. You can't fly, don't you if you 0:20:21.840 --> 0:20:22.360 jump off a. 0:20:22.320 --> 0:20:25.560 Building out two thousand years from now? Think we could 0:20:25.920 --> 0:20:27.720 think about when they made the plane. You the thing 0:20:27.880 --> 0:20:29.560 that I went up and said, Yo, I have this 0:20:29.640 --> 0:20:31.560 idea we're gonna make, like you know how birds fly, 0:20:31.920 --> 0:20:32.600 I'm gonna. 0:20:32.400 --> 0:20:36.080 Make this car that flies. People looked at him like 0:20:36.080 --> 0:20:36.760 he was crazy. 0:20:36.960 --> 0:20:38.960 Well, I you know what, and too, I'll see you 0:20:39.000 --> 0:20:40.280 in two thousand years and we'll do it. 0:20:40.359 --> 0:20:43.000 We'll do a flight test or something. We will willing. 0:20:43.640 --> 0:20:45.239 I appreciate you, Thank you, of course, man. 0:20:45.280 --> 0:20:46.320 I'll see your on the universe. 0:20:47.200 --> 0:20:47.400 Sir. 0:20:49.040 --> 0:20:52.119 Hi, what is your name? Hi, Chloe, that's my sister's name. 0:20:52.200 --> 0:20:53.160 Let's Chloe. 0:20:53.280 --> 0:20:54.640 What possesses you to do this? 0:20:55.440 --> 0:20:56.560 What possesses me to do this? 0:20:56.760 --> 0:20:57.040 Yes? 0:20:57.440 --> 0:20:58.400 I think it's pretty cool. 0:20:58.520 --> 0:21:01.000 Oh thanks, Wait, but before I get my answer, what 0:21:01.040 --> 0:21:02.320 do you think possessed me to do this? 0:21:05.359 --> 0:21:07.480 Well, just based off of like what I've been hearing, 0:21:07.520 --> 0:21:10.280 I feel like you are trying to do a good thing, 0:21:10.440 --> 0:21:12.600 but it is like, you know, like talking to people. 0:21:12.880 --> 0:21:14.720 I checked out your page, you give advice and what. 0:21:15.160 --> 0:21:18.080 Sure, So I feel like when you do it just 0:21:18.080 --> 0:21:20.680 stressed like a normal person, it's harder to reach an audience. 0:21:20.720 --> 0:21:22.520 So maybe you're trying to find a way to reach 0:21:22.520 --> 0:21:24.399 an audience by like stepping out the box. 0:21:24.640 --> 0:21:25.160 That's sure. 0:21:25.800 --> 0:21:27.399 Okay when you say it, do you mean like the 0:21:27.440 --> 0:21:29.399 whole thing with the cameras and the mics in the podcast, 0:21:29.480 --> 0:21:31.000 or do you mean the gecko suit or everything? 0:21:31.320 --> 0:21:32.200 Oh, the gecko suit. 0:21:32.280 --> 0:21:35.040 I think like you're broadcasting it to reach another audience. 0:21:35.040 --> 0:21:37.400 But I think like just being out here it's hard 0:21:37.480 --> 0:21:39.119 to like and I don't know if like is this 0:21:39.240 --> 0:21:42.000 like what now you tell me your answer, because I 0:21:42.040 --> 0:21:42.320 was just. 0:21:42.240 --> 0:21:44.480 Gonna go into like a whole deep I. 0:21:44.400 --> 0:21:46.440 Don't know, a whole deep dive if I that's more 0:21:46.720 --> 0:21:49.159 everyone here's because here's the thing and a lot of 0:21:49.880 --> 0:21:51.880 this is one of my problems with doing this is that. 0:21:52.520 --> 0:21:55.119 I know people said they want to know about like 0:21:55.200 --> 0:21:57.240 why I'm the gecko or whatever. But I feel like 0:21:57.480 --> 0:22:00.439 the people who listen to this they've heard me for 0:22:02.000 --> 0:22:04.320 heard me too much. I want to know about you, Chloe. Okay, 0:22:04.320 --> 0:22:05.479 what's going on in your life? 0:22:06.600 --> 0:22:10.280 Nothing much? School, work, works, school. I'm now here interviewing 0:22:10.320 --> 0:22:10.879 with a get go. 0:22:11.119 --> 0:22:12.680 What do you go to school for? 0:22:13.000 --> 0:22:15.320 I'm getting my NBA finance. 0:22:15.000 --> 0:22:17.919 Okay, yeah, very nice? Yeah, I think what what do 0:22:17.960 --> 0:22:18.720 you do for work? 0:22:19.680 --> 0:22:21.600 I'm an e A. I'm I'm an e A at 0:22:21.600 --> 0:22:22.480 a finance firm. 0:22:22.560 --> 0:22:26.160 You work at the you work at Madden Madden. Never mind, 0:22:26.520 --> 0:22:28.000 you're a I'm an. 0:22:29.080 --> 0:22:31.399 I got I got exactly what you just meant, Madden 0:22:31.520 --> 0:22:35.400 meaning like football Madden. Yes, I just got the joke. 0:22:36.440 --> 0:22:37.960 What do you call it? Yeah, I'm an e A. 0:22:38.040 --> 0:22:40.000 I'm a I'm an e at a finance firm. 0:22:39.960 --> 0:22:41.080 And you're an executive assistant? 0:22:41.160 --> 0:22:43.919 Yes, yes, okay, all right, listen off the record, but 0:22:43.920 --> 0:22:47.119 also kind of totally on the record because we're recording it. But, uh, 0:22:47.480 --> 0:22:51.000 do you like to people throw things at you? Or 0:22:51.040 --> 0:22:55.240 people mean it seems like a very like genuinely I've 0:22:55.280 --> 0:22:56.080 had I've. 0:22:55.880 --> 0:22:59.800 Had some weird experiences like weird. 0:23:00.200 --> 0:23:02.120 Okay, so this is just my this is just I've 0:23:02.119 --> 0:23:04.800 never had an experience where someone was like outwardly rude 0:23:04.880 --> 0:23:07.159 or they're throwing stuff. But I do have to say, 0:23:07.240 --> 0:23:09.200 if you work in like a super big firm, you're 0:23:09.200 --> 0:23:11.280 gonna come across a bunch of people with different backgrounds. 0:23:11.320 --> 0:23:14.000 They're from different you know. And with that being. 0:23:13.840 --> 0:23:17.359 Said, usually with their cultures, they treat people differently based 0:23:17.359 --> 0:23:20.720 off off whether they're subordinate or you know. So I've 0:23:20.760 --> 0:23:24.399 been treated differently, like it's it's it's out of the 0:23:24.480 --> 0:23:27.399 norm for Americans, but it's like in their culture it's normal. 0:23:27.440 --> 0:23:29.760 But I think it's a beautiful experience because you get 0:23:29.800 --> 0:23:31.959 to first of all, you built tough skin, and then 0:23:31.960 --> 0:23:34.000 second all you get to see different people from there. 0:23:34.040 --> 0:23:35.840 Are you able to because I don't want to, well this, 0:23:36.520 --> 0:23:39.240 you've been in EA at multiple different things. Yes, okay, 0:23:39.280 --> 0:23:42.480 so I don't want to get you in trouble, like well, 0:23:42.520 --> 0:23:44.920 like do you mean like I guess like in Japanese 0:23:45.000 --> 0:23:51.320 work culture, it's very uhcty like subordinate and superior. 0:23:51.400 --> 0:23:53.080 Yes, vibe is that kind of what you're talking about? 0:23:53.080 --> 0:23:55.639 Like other like other cultures, Yes, like America is a 0:23:55.640 --> 0:23:57.000 little bit more like lax. 0:23:57.119 --> 0:23:59.000 But then again, I've there's a lot of I've seen 0:23:59.040 --> 0:24:01.960 a lot of directors, so you know, they're analysts and 0:24:02.000 --> 0:24:04.679 they're like from Tennessee, and I'll be like, what the 0:24:04.720 --> 0:24:06.600 fuck are like, They'll they'll talk to them crazy. But 0:24:06.960 --> 0:24:10.439 I've also experienced you know, it could just be to 0:24:10.600 --> 0:24:12.560 us they'll be seen as rude, but to them, it's 0:24:12.600 --> 0:24:13.639 just like it's in their culture. 0:24:13.680 --> 0:24:15.240 It's just what they're used to. That's how they're raised. 0:24:15.240 --> 0:24:15.920 So so let. 0:24:15.880 --> 0:24:17.840 Me ask you this, Clay, because you're on the up. 0:24:18.560 --> 0:24:20.679 You know, you're working, you're on a school. Yeah, we 0:24:20.760 --> 0:24:23.320 see you. You know you're you're you're on the rise. 0:24:24.160 --> 0:24:26.400 When you are when you are CEO one day, if 0:24:26.400 --> 0:24:27.720 that's what you want, I don't know what you want. 0:24:28.400 --> 0:24:30.480 But when you're when you have well whatever, when you 0:24:30.520 --> 0:24:33.560 have an EA, yeah, do you predict that you will 0:24:33.560 --> 0:24:35.240 remember what it was like to be in EA and 0:24:35.280 --> 0:24:39.840 that you'll be more uh empathetic as result? Or will 0:24:39.880 --> 0:24:41.720 you let the money change you? 0:24:41.800 --> 0:24:44.760 No wrong answers, No, absolutely. First of all, I feel like. 0:24:46.880 --> 0:24:48.800 I feel like as an EA, you do get to 0:24:49.359 --> 0:24:51.639 if I never experienced this job role, I feel like 0:24:51.680 --> 0:24:53.720 I wouldn't have the same type of empathy for other 0:24:53.760 --> 0:24:57.160 eas as I do, you know, in the job role. 0:24:57.200 --> 0:24:59.080 But I feel like, let's say, like later on in 0:24:59.160 --> 0:24:59.720 the future. 0:24:59.520 --> 0:25:02.440 If I were have an EA, there are certain attributes 0:25:02.880 --> 0:25:05.520 within just from what from working I see that I 0:25:05.560 --> 0:25:07.200 would like if I were to have an EA, certain 0:25:07.240 --> 0:25:09.879 attributes where I've seen commonly in other eas where or 0:25:10.000 --> 0:25:12.280 even in myself, where I wouldn't like. So I feel 0:25:12.280 --> 0:25:14.240 like I wouldn't be super or be like, oh I 0:25:14.280 --> 0:25:16.080 get it, I get it, but it would be like 0:25:16.119 --> 0:25:18.720 I understand, but you know, you gotta get your your. 0:25:18.840 --> 0:25:20.919 We all got to I understand, but I asked for 0:25:20.960 --> 0:25:23.600 a splendor and this is regular show exactly, and if 0:25:23.600 --> 0:25:26.159 you do it again, I will kill you exactly. 0:25:26.240 --> 0:25:29.359 I mean it's like that's even even within myself just 0:25:29.520 --> 0:25:31.960 being an EA, I'm like that in my personal life 0:25:32.000 --> 0:25:34.560 as well, Like okay, yeah, so yeah. 0:25:34.480 --> 0:25:38.560 Totally, so okay, So what do you want? Because do 0:25:38.600 --> 0:25:39.879 you want to be the CEO? Do you want to 0:25:39.880 --> 0:25:41.840 be high powered business person? 0:25:42.240 --> 0:25:45.040 No, I don't think I'm gonna be doing anything in finance. 0:25:45.240 --> 0:25:47.480 If I would be doing anything in finance, I would 0:25:47.480 --> 0:25:50.760 probably be like a chief of staff. I don't see 0:25:50.760 --> 0:25:53.640 myself like being an analyst or anything. At my last job, 0:25:53.720 --> 0:25:56.160 my director was like, oh, you should just like become 0:25:56.160 --> 0:25:58.480 an analyst. You'll be a great analyst. But that comes 0:25:58.520 --> 0:26:01.399 like it's just with finance. It's such a like a 0:26:01.480 --> 0:26:04.000 structured ladder you have to climb up of and it's 0:26:04.000 --> 0:26:06.159 like if you start, if you want to start, you 0:26:06.160 --> 0:26:08.000 have to start in an internship and then that's gonna. 0:26:07.760 --> 0:26:08.359 Take you a while. 0:26:08.400 --> 0:26:11.639 It's like it's such a I'm very I'm a spontaneous person. 0:26:12.080 --> 0:26:14.280 Can I ask you this, Like in the finance world, 0:26:14.320 --> 0:26:15.719 have you met anyone like evil? 0:26:18.760 --> 0:26:20.800 You don't have I don't want any names. 0:26:21.400 --> 0:26:24.040 Yeah, but like well like evil as in like their 0:26:24.119 --> 0:26:26.760 vibes like just like just something like is off with them? 0:26:26.760 --> 0:26:29.520 Hell ya yeah, yeah, Like what is that? 0:26:29.680 --> 0:26:32.560 I don't know, there's been There was this one guy 0:26:32.720 --> 0:26:34.080 he came into our firm. 0:26:34.280 --> 0:26:40.000 I'm not gonna say who, but he owns another huge, huge, huge. 0:26:39.760 --> 0:26:43.320 Firm, one of the biggest assets. They they I'm actually 0:26:43.320 --> 0:26:45.960 not the same thing. But he came into our firm 0:26:46.000 --> 0:26:50.879 and he had a meeting and it's just immediately like 0:26:51.000 --> 0:26:53.960 his vibe was just off to me. I didn't know 0:26:54.080 --> 0:26:55.800 at the time who he was. I had to ask 0:26:55.840 --> 0:26:57.600 after him, like who was that, because it's like his 0:26:57.720 --> 0:27:00.600 VI his I don't know, just the energy was off. 0:27:00.720 --> 0:27:04.280 But even outside of finance, like I go to you know, 0:27:04.320 --> 0:27:05.840 I'm young, I go to the club and whatnot. 0:27:06.000 --> 0:27:07.480 I'm like waiting for you to say that this was 0:27:07.520 --> 0:27:08.320 Jeffrey Epstein. 0:27:08.680 --> 0:27:11.639 No, okay, no, you probably if I were to go 0:27:11.680 --> 0:27:13.639 a little bit more into depth, I'm sure you wouldn't 0:27:13.720 --> 0:27:17.440 be able to exactly like be like I know exactly which. 0:27:18.119 --> 0:27:21.160 That's what I was, like, I don't know, maybe. 0:27:20.800 --> 0:27:23.680 I don't even know you're you probably would definitely because 0:27:23.720 --> 0:27:25.760 the corporate, like their firm itself is. 0:27:27.760 --> 0:27:31.000 Oh yeah yeah. So even like going to clubs. 0:27:30.720 --> 0:27:34.360 And whatnot, and like just just being outside, even outside 0:27:34.359 --> 0:27:35.440 of finance. 0:27:35.000 --> 0:27:40.120 It's like oh he like, you know, child, what's he called? 0:27:40.160 --> 0:27:42.040 Even outside of finance or just like in night life 0:27:42.119 --> 0:27:44.359 or just in the regular Like sometimes I'll just come 0:27:44.400 --> 0:27:47.119 across people, and it usually tends to be people with 0:27:47.160 --> 0:27:49.600 a lot of money that give me just weird vibes. 0:27:49.600 --> 0:27:51.439 It's not all the time. I work around a lot 0:27:51.440 --> 0:27:53.040 of people who do have a lot of money, whether 0:27:53.080 --> 0:27:58.080 it's liquid assets whatever, but he specifically gave me a 0:27:58.080 --> 0:27:58.520 weird vibe. 0:27:58.520 --> 0:27:59.960 There's been several of the times I've gotten that. 0:28:00.200 --> 0:28:02.000 There was actually one time I went to a club 0:28:02.040 --> 0:28:05.640 with a very very famous R and B singer guy 0:28:05.920 --> 0:28:08.040 and he had allegations and I kid you not after 0:28:08.119 --> 0:28:10.600 my interaction with him at the club, but we went 0:28:10.640 --> 0:28:12.719 to like a bowling alley and the club afterwards he 0:28:12.760 --> 0:28:15.480 did whatever they said he did because it was just 0:28:15.480 --> 0:28:16.240 just talking to me. 0:28:16.359 --> 0:28:19.560 Did you hang out with R Kelly? 0:28:19.320 --> 0:28:22.080 You could take like take like three more guesses. 0:28:23.600 --> 0:28:25.600 That's the I don't that's the only that actually might 0:28:25.600 --> 0:28:26.520 be the only R and. 0:28:26.520 --> 0:28:30.160 B C think Yeah, okay, then yo, but you he 0:28:30.480 --> 0:28:30.879 you don't. 0:28:30.760 --> 0:28:32.280 Have to say. You don't have to say what is no, no. 0:28:32.680 --> 0:28:36.040 But he was definitely off and whatever whatever they said 0:28:36.040 --> 0:28:38.160 he did, he definitely did one hundred and ten percent okay. 0:28:38.640 --> 0:28:40.840 But there's been several instance where I ran into like 0:28:40.880 --> 0:28:42.360 some really creepy, weird people. 0:28:43.760 --> 0:28:46.760 Have you met anyone who's nice? Have you met a 0:28:46.760 --> 0:28:47.720 lot of nice people? 0:28:47.880 --> 0:28:48.240 Yeah? 0:28:48.320 --> 0:28:49.520 Yeah, Actually be surprised. 0:28:49.560 --> 0:28:51.560 I feel like in finance, I feel like a lot 0:28:51.560 --> 0:28:53.800 of people think like, oh, everyone's mean, stush suit and 0:28:53.840 --> 0:28:56.040 tie really rude, like you know how your first like 0:28:56.200 --> 0:28:57.400 question was like, have you met. 0:28:57.240 --> 0:28:58.520 Anyone that's thrown stuff at you? 0:28:58.600 --> 0:28:58.680 Like? 0:28:58.760 --> 0:29:01.280 Yeah, yeah, all tend to usually think it's like that, 0:29:01.360 --> 0:29:04.600 but no, Honestly, I feel like depend It depends on 0:29:04.640 --> 0:29:06.280 which firm you go to and who you work under. 0:29:06.320 --> 0:29:08.720 But depending on which firm or who you work under, 0:29:09.080 --> 0:29:10.600 you can find a lot of people who would want 0:29:10.600 --> 0:29:11.479 to help you and whatnot. 0:29:11.600 --> 0:29:13.400 What's your life like outside of finance? 0:29:14.680 --> 0:29:16.520 What do you do gaming? What do you what do 0:29:16.520 --> 0:29:17.000 you play? 0:29:17.120 --> 0:29:19.760 I played Grow Garden right now on Girl Garden. 0:29:20.680 --> 0:29:21.240 Girl Garden. 0:29:21.760 --> 0:29:23.720 It's on roadblocks. It's really dumb, but. 0:29:23.840 --> 0:29:28.120 You really go Garden sounds like what people derogatorily would 0:29:28.200 --> 0:29:29.280 call Stardoo Valley. 0:29:29.920 --> 0:29:31.240 You're playing the Girl Garden game? 0:29:31.440 --> 0:29:33.160 Yes, what's that's? What you say? 0:29:33.280 --> 0:29:34.000 Stardoo Valley? 0:29:34.040 --> 0:29:34.280 What's that? 0:29:35.160 --> 0:29:35.360 Oh? 0:29:35.360 --> 0:29:38.840 It's like it's like a garden game. I think, Yeah, 0:29:38.880 --> 0:29:40.880 I've never played it, but it's like a farming simula. 0:29:41.000 --> 0:29:43.640 No, no, this one's it's called Girl Garden. I feel 0:29:43.640 --> 0:29:44.239 like you would like it. 0:29:44.280 --> 0:29:44.920 You should try it. 0:29:45.320 --> 0:29:47.080 I don't like sim games. 0:29:47.640 --> 0:29:49.960 Sim games. Wait, what do you mean sim games? 0:29:50.040 --> 0:29:50.320 You know what? 0:29:50.360 --> 0:29:50.760 I feel like? 0:29:50.760 --> 0:29:52.760 I didn't I even listen to you enough? What what 0:29:52.760 --> 0:29:53.600 what is girl garden? 0:29:53.720 --> 0:29:56.160 Okay, girl garden is is basically like a rodblocks. 0:29:56.280 --> 0:29:58.120 I mean you literally just grow a garden and then 0:29:58.120 --> 0:30:00.360 you could like sell your plants, and the more money 0:30:00.400 --> 0:30:02.560 you make, the more you can expand your garden, the 0:30:02.640 --> 0:30:04.600 bigger your garden. Again, then you could flex on some 0:30:04.680 --> 0:30:06.040 other people with some really cool plants. 0:30:06.480 --> 0:30:09.040 I'm sorry you're saying grow garden. 0:30:08.800 --> 0:30:10.320 Grow a garden. 0:30:10.520 --> 0:30:13.280 Oh I thought you said girl garden. 0:30:13.080 --> 0:30:15.560 Girl Garden. Yeah, I mean it might as well be 0:30:15.600 --> 0:30:16.440 grow garden. 0:30:16.200 --> 0:30:20.040 Okay and grow a garden. Yeah, oh okay, I wouldn't 0:30:20.040 --> 0:30:20.960 even ask what the game was. 0:30:21.120 --> 0:30:22.920 Yeah, it's called It's really fun, though. I feel like 0:30:22.920 --> 0:30:23.280 you like it. 0:30:23.320 --> 0:30:24.560 I mean, you're grow. 0:30:24.320 --> 0:30:26.840 A garden, You're you're perfect for I don't like I 0:30:26.920 --> 0:30:29.760 like games with objectives. I hate I hate like animal crossing. 0:30:30.320 --> 0:30:33.560 I hate animal Crossing. I hate Stardoo Valley, I hate Farmville. 0:30:33.720 --> 0:30:36.560 I don't like Farmville. I've I've tried Animal Crossing. I 0:30:36.600 --> 0:30:38.720 couldn't get into it. But I feel like grow Garden. 0:30:38.760 --> 0:30:40.480 You can make your own objectives as you go. But 0:30:40.520 --> 0:30:42.760 I guess I guess it's just I feel like you 0:30:42.840 --> 0:30:44.560 like more clear objectives, like this is the point is 0:30:44.760 --> 0:30:45.720 like a story based gus. 0:30:45.840 --> 0:30:49.160 Yeah, yeah, if I wanted to like think about I like, 0:30:49.160 --> 0:30:51.280 there's too much going on in like my real life 0:30:51.360 --> 0:30:53.240 to start thinking about a virtual life, you. 0:30:53.160 --> 0:30:55.240 Know, to like create your own. Yeah, that's I don't 0:30:55.280 --> 0:30:55.760 like sims. 0:30:55.920 --> 0:30:57.960 Yeah, I hate you don't like sims. No, but grow 0:30:58.000 --> 0:30:59.600 a garden seems very simsy. 0:30:59.760 --> 0:31:02.480 No, not at all, grow garden. You're focused on your garden. 0:31:02.560 --> 0:31:05.240 Okay, you know you grow, grow, grow, and you could like, 0:31:05.240 --> 0:31:07.040 like my garden's cool. 0:31:07.040 --> 0:31:08.760 Ast shit, I can show you like my garden. 0:31:08.760 --> 0:31:10.760 You want to say, sure, what you have it on 0:31:10.800 --> 0:31:11.200 your phone? 0:31:11.280 --> 0:31:11.600 Yeah? 0:31:11.680 --> 0:31:13.160 Oh wait, this is an app game. 0:31:13.600 --> 0:31:15.440 No, it's I took a video of my garden. 0:31:15.680 --> 0:31:18.719 Okay, yeah, yeah garden absolutely so. 0:31:18.800 --> 0:31:22.040 This is my me and my friend. This is my garden, 0:31:22.320 --> 0:31:24.480 and this is her I have forty three billion. 0:31:25.000 --> 0:31:26.880 And then she's aout, well you have forty three billion? 0:31:26.960 --> 0:31:29.640 What in the game? Forty three billion? Shekels and she's 0:31:29.640 --> 0:31:31.520 about a whip up. That's her flower that she grow. 0:31:31.680 --> 0:31:33.719 That sounds like a very inflated currency. 0:31:33.960 --> 0:31:35.120 No, I've made. 0:31:35.160 --> 0:31:35.520 I've made. 0:31:35.920 --> 0:31:36.680 It's I'm telling you. 0:31:36.840 --> 0:31:38.720 I know you have forty three billion, but it seemed 0:31:38.800 --> 0:31:41.560 like how much is that worth in like US dollars? 0:31:43.000 --> 0:31:45.080 I don't know, like one hundred million. I'm definitely up 0:31:45.160 --> 0:31:46.600 Like my network is like up there. 0:31:46.800 --> 0:31:48.000 Okay, like people. 0:31:47.720 --> 0:31:49.000 In my finance from they don't know. 0:31:50.760 --> 0:31:52.000 Do you do you invest? 0:31:52.560 --> 0:31:52.720 Hell? 0:31:52.800 --> 0:31:54.680 Yeah? What do you invest? What should we invest in? 0:31:55.400 --> 0:31:58.240 We should invest in? Elderberry? Are we talking about? 0:31:58.240 --> 0:31:58.720 Grow garden? 0:31:58.800 --> 0:31:59.760 Are you talking about real life? 0:31:59.800 --> 0:31:59.920 Oh? 0:32:00.000 --> 0:32:00.800 I guess real life? 0:32:00.960 --> 0:32:02.000 Okay, real life? 0:32:02.640 --> 0:32:02.880 Hmm? 0:32:03.160 --> 0:32:07.200 What should you invest in? I'd say property? Property is 0:32:07.200 --> 0:32:10.080 probably my biggest thing. I feel like, you know, land property, 0:32:10.120 --> 0:32:12.240 whatever the case may be. Land is a lot better though. 0:32:12.320 --> 0:32:14.160 Okay, where have you been buying lands? 0:32:14.760 --> 0:32:16.680 I'm I mean, I haven't been buying land yet, but 0:32:16.720 --> 0:32:18.240 if I do want to buy land, I feel like 0:32:18.280 --> 0:32:21.360 somewhere liked like maybe my Wyoming, Middle America or somewhere 0:32:21.480 --> 0:32:23.320 like I feel like it's the farmland out there is 0:32:23.400 --> 0:32:24.840 really good agriculture. 0:32:24.880 --> 0:32:26.440 You know, you could you could grow a garden. 0:32:26.480 --> 0:32:30.040 I r l there you go, we could grow garden together. 0:32:30.280 --> 0:32:32.080 That could be fun. Yeah, grow a garden. 0:32:32.160 --> 0:32:33.400 What about you? What's your favorite game? 0:32:35.360 --> 0:32:38.160 Super Smash Brother's Melee for the Nintendo GameCube. 0:32:38.920 --> 0:32:41.920 Okay, okay, Mario Kart. 0:32:42.240 --> 0:32:45.040 Okay, okay, you're saying all the right woods. 0:32:46.720 --> 0:32:48.400 I'm a red dead redemption too. 0:32:49.160 --> 0:32:50.120 I'm a gotta get up. 0:32:50.160 --> 0:32:53.360 Are you serious? That's my favorite fucking game of Yes, 0:32:53.520 --> 0:32:54.200 I played. 0:32:53.920 --> 0:32:56.000 That game through and through, like make you play it on. 0:32:56.160 --> 0:32:58.280 I played it on PSI, my PS five at home. 0:32:58.320 --> 0:33:01.080 I also have it on PC because I console games 0:33:01.120 --> 0:33:02.560 like I played like shooter games on PC. 0:33:02.680 --> 0:33:05.160 I iced to stream stream ice to stream on Twitch. 0:33:05.200 --> 0:33:07.560 Wait wait really, yeah, what what happens? 0:33:07.800 --> 0:33:10.360 I stopped because I started once I started like taking 0:33:10.400 --> 0:33:12.680 my master's, Like it was hard for me to work 0:33:12.720 --> 0:33:16.680 full time, stream consistently and do school. And it's like, 0:33:16.680 --> 0:33:18.320 in order for me to do school, I have to work. 0:33:18.320 --> 0:33:20.000 I have to make money, and Twitch wasn't making me 0:33:20.080 --> 0:33:22.200 enough money. I feel like maybe once I'm done with school, 0:33:22.200 --> 0:33:23.440 I'll go back into it. But I have like a 0:33:23.440 --> 0:33:24.560 whole Discord community. 0:33:24.760 --> 0:33:27.800 Wait really, yeah? Can I ask what's your Do you 0:33:27.840 --> 0:33:29.040 ever you ever like hop on? 0:33:29.120 --> 0:33:29.360 Still? 0:33:29.440 --> 0:33:29.560 Hell? 0:33:29.640 --> 0:33:29.840 Yeah? 0:33:29.920 --> 0:33:31.040 Do the fans miss you? 0:33:31.120 --> 0:33:31.360 Yeah? 0:33:31.440 --> 0:33:33.240 They're always asking me what I'm gonna get back on Twitch? 0:33:33.280 --> 0:33:34.480 Like I could go probably Like I got a d 0:33:34.600 --> 0:33:36.240 M yesterday asking me when I'm gonna get back on Twitch. 0:33:36.280 --> 0:33:38.080 Wait, what can I ask what your twitch is? 0:33:38.200 --> 0:33:42.000 Yeah, it's k l O v o x o and 0:33:42.040 --> 0:33:44.120 then a l O v v o. 0:33:44.600 --> 0:33:47.040 X cloth oxl cloxl. 0:33:47.200 --> 0:33:49.800 Yeah, it's pretty hard to like remember, I need to 0:33:49.880 --> 0:33:50.960 change it to something more. 0:33:51.160 --> 0:33:53.760 What have you been streaming shooter games? 0:33:53.800 --> 0:33:53.880 So? 0:33:54.000 --> 0:33:56.000 Really like this was like when Fortnite was on the rise, 0:33:56.000 --> 0:33:59.240 but I would play Fortnite. What else would I play? 0:33:59.240 --> 0:34:01.520 It really just be Fortnight see us go. I played 0:34:01.520 --> 0:34:06.280 a little bit. I really liked Counterstrike Valeriant I tried 0:34:06.280 --> 0:34:09.160 to get into but I couldn't. And they'll know it's 0:34:09.239 --> 0:34:12.080 one more shooter that my friend had put me onto. 0:34:12.280 --> 0:34:14.800 But it's like a it's like a variant of Valorant. 0:34:14.840 --> 0:34:16.000 But it was really fun. I liked it. 0:34:16.000 --> 0:34:17.480 I have to find out the name. But it was 0:34:17.560 --> 0:34:19.680 mainly just shooter games I really like to play. 0:34:20.040 --> 0:34:22.759 Yeah, I've thought about well, I mean I stream my 0:34:22.920 --> 0:34:24.600 like I stream this on Twitch. 0:34:24.840 --> 0:34:26.880 Why don't you stream like stream stream on like? 0:34:26.920 --> 0:34:28.439 I thought about it, dude. 0:34:28.480 --> 0:34:31.160 The other I thought about it, and I was like, 0:34:31.360 --> 0:34:33.440 maybe I'll start streaming video games on Twitch. 0:34:33.560 --> 0:34:33.960 If you look. 0:34:34.000 --> 0:34:36.040 It's like, I just like playing video games. I don't 0:34:36.080 --> 0:34:37.160 want to turn it into like a. 0:34:37.840 --> 0:34:40.839 That's where my issue was, is like it's people don't 0:34:40.880 --> 0:34:43.160 realize is especially when it comes to Twitch. I'm sure 0:34:43.160 --> 0:34:45.040 this is like people will be like, Oh, it's easy 0:34:45.040 --> 0:34:46.799 for you to like get you stup and go talk 0:34:46.840 --> 0:34:49.279 to people, but no, it's like emotionally taxing, draining at 0:34:49.280 --> 0:34:51.040 times where it's like, especially if you do it every day. 0:34:51.239 --> 0:34:52.000 Same thing with Twitch. 0:34:52.000 --> 0:34:53.800 I feel like, so it's like if you're doing something 0:34:53.840 --> 0:34:55.480 like on Twitch every day, you build a community and 0:34:55.480 --> 0:34:57.759 they're expecting you, it starts to take the fun out 0:34:57.760 --> 0:34:57.920 of it. 0:34:58.080 --> 0:35:00.239 Yeah, I think, Well, here's the thing, is like there's 0:35:00.280 --> 0:35:02.960 a version of me streaming video games on Twitch that 0:35:03.080 --> 0:35:04.560 takes no emotional energy. 0:35:05.000 --> 0:35:06.160 At that point, it's like why do it? 0:35:06.239 --> 0:35:06.399 Well? 0:35:06.440 --> 0:35:08.319 Yeah, like there's a version where I just sit in 0:35:08.360 --> 0:35:10.920 silence and play video games and I happen to be 0:35:10.960 --> 0:35:12.800 live and people in the chat talk to you. 0:35:13.400 --> 0:35:14.080 Would that be lame? 0:35:14.480 --> 0:35:15.440 No? 0:35:15.440 --> 0:35:16.920 No, whatever games I'm normally. 0:35:16.600 --> 0:35:18.960 Playing, have you seen? I mean I was gonna say, like, 0:35:19.120 --> 0:35:20.040 have you know Caso? 0:35:20.280 --> 0:35:21.080 Who Caso? 0:35:21.400 --> 0:35:21.600 No? 0:35:21.880 --> 0:35:22.960 You don't know who Keso is? 0:35:23.880 --> 0:35:24.440 Should I know? 0:35:25.600 --> 0:35:28.280 Does anyone here know who Keeso is? The Twitch streamer. 0:35:28.600 --> 0:35:29.960 Oh my god, he's fucking goded. 0:35:30.080 --> 0:35:32.000 How how no? 0:35:32.160 --> 0:35:35.360 Hell no, no, I was gonna say, no, Caso is attractive. 0:35:35.440 --> 0:35:37.919 Oh my god, come on, let's not do that because 0:35:37.960 --> 0:35:41.640 he's big. They're trying to make fun of because he's big. Yeah, 0:35:41.680 --> 0:35:43.400 he's hot. I think he's cute. He's cute. 0:35:43.440 --> 0:35:44.040 What's his deal. 0:35:44.640 --> 0:35:45.759 He's just a bigger guy. 0:35:45.880 --> 0:35:46.560 But he's cute. 0:35:46.560 --> 0:35:48.320 I don't know why people make fun of him immediately. 0:35:48.360 --> 0:35:48.880 I don't like that. 0:35:49.280 --> 0:35:52.160 But Caso's really funny. I love his Twitch streams. He 0:35:52.200 --> 0:35:54.440 could he tweaks out on tw sometimes, but it's just 0:35:54.440 --> 0:35:56.600 his personality. You also give me that vibere. It's like 0:35:56.600 --> 0:35:58.760 you could just talk about anything and he just streams 0:35:58.800 --> 0:36:00.719 and he doesn't even curse or anything, and he gets 0:36:00.719 --> 0:36:02.839 like fifty six thousand people per week. 0:36:02.920 --> 0:36:04.799 I would I thought about it, because, like I mean, 0:36:04.840 --> 0:36:06.320 I thought about like just playing. 0:36:07.200 --> 0:36:08.799 I don't know, I'll think about it. 0:36:08.880 --> 0:36:11.440 Yes, if people if people are listening to this and 0:36:11.440 --> 0:36:12.640 they're like, oh they should. 0:36:12.560 --> 0:36:14.359 I mean, if people are watching you. I mean it's 0:36:14.400 --> 0:36:16.279 like you already have a fan base. You already have 0:36:16.320 --> 0:36:18.759 a following. If you feel like you like games and 0:36:18.760 --> 0:36:20.879 you like talking to people, and sometimes you just don't 0:36:20.880 --> 0:36:21.960 feel like getting dressed up. 0:36:22.080 --> 0:36:23.680 You'll be surprised by who will tune in. I will 0:36:23.760 --> 0:36:25.280 tune in, you know, all right, I'll. 0:36:25.120 --> 0:36:25.560 Think about it. 0:36:25.560 --> 0:36:27.920 We could we could uh do a car like we 0:36:27.920 --> 0:36:31.439 could do a collabse stream Yeah. Yeah, if we could 0:36:31.440 --> 0:36:34.880 make a little we could we could do a little farm. 0:36:34.360 --> 0:36:35.680 A little grow garden farm. 0:36:36.440 --> 0:36:38.880 Yes, yes, could you fight people in grol guarden? Is 0:36:38.920 --> 0:36:40.240 it like roadblocks where you do fights? 0:36:40.800 --> 0:36:41.080 No? 0:36:41.280 --> 0:36:46.080 But I have so you can steal from people's garden, Like, yes, 0:36:46.400 --> 0:36:49.200 do do you steal? People have stolen some really expressive 0:36:49.239 --> 0:36:50.960 mushrooms from me. But in order to steal you have 0:36:51.000 --> 0:36:54.040 to spend real money. So I've spent like upwards of 0:36:54.080 --> 0:36:56.520 like one hundred dollars stealing back from people who've stolen 0:36:56.560 --> 0:36:56.840 from me. 0:36:58.480 --> 0:37:01.440 That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Yeah, really, other 0:37:01.520 --> 0:37:03.640 people pay money to sit steal from you. 0:37:03.880 --> 0:37:04.360 Let me tell you. 0:37:04.400 --> 0:37:05.960 So, someone stole from my garden. 0:37:06.040 --> 0:37:08.000 Right, it was probably like a mushroom that was worth 0:37:08.080 --> 0:37:10.520 like a couple million. It had like all these mutations 0:37:10.520 --> 0:37:13.360 on it, super fucking dope, and she stole it from me. 0:37:13.400 --> 0:37:14.600 And I was like, did you steal from my garden. 0:37:14.640 --> 0:37:15.960 She was like, yeah, I'll do it again, and then 0:37:16.000 --> 0:37:19.120 she flips, she takes out the mushroom and then started 0:37:19.160 --> 0:37:21.200 flashing my mushroom in front of me after she stole 0:37:21.200 --> 0:37:21.560 it from me. 0:37:22.080 --> 0:37:23.120 This game sounds hard. 0:37:23.560 --> 0:37:26.400 Yeah, I don't play games that require an Internet connection 0:37:26.520 --> 0:37:27.120 for this reason. 0:37:27.680 --> 0:37:27.919 Yeah. 0:37:27.960 --> 0:37:30.439 It's like, either you could come across like a really 0:37:30.440 --> 0:37:32.720 good community and girl garden, or you could get bullied 0:37:32.719 --> 0:37:34.200 by a bunch of ten year olds that like are 0:37:34.320 --> 0:37:38.319 using mommy, using mommy's credit card to steal all your 0:37:38.400 --> 0:37:40.879 and mind you like their garden will be like they'll 0:37:40.920 --> 0:37:43.160 have like a couple billion and they won't even need 0:37:43.200 --> 0:37:44.560 to steal from you, but they'll just steal from you. 0:37:44.840 --> 0:37:47.640 I feel like I'm gonna be I don't know, can 0:37:47.680 --> 0:37:51.080 that's how old you are twenty four? I'm twenty seven, Okay, 0:37:51.239 --> 0:37:54.279 I feel like at twenty seven, I'm like, I'm like, watch, 0:37:54.400 --> 0:37:56.480 I talked to somebody, So, I mean, normally this podcast 0:37:56.560 --> 0:38:00.279 is like phone calls. And I had a caller call 0:38:00.400 --> 0:38:02.600 me and be like, I'm thirty three years old and 0:38:02.680 --> 0:38:05.440 I just got into a huge fight with a thirteen 0:38:05.520 --> 0:38:08.560 year old on roadblocks and it's caused me to deeply 0:38:08.600 --> 0:38:13.120 existentially reevaluate my life. Yeah, and I don't want. I 0:38:13.120 --> 0:38:15.160 feel like that's gonna be me if I start playing. 0:38:15.320 --> 0:38:16.800 That's been me so many times. 0:38:16.880 --> 0:38:19.360 I probably cursed out I don't know how many people's 0:38:19.440 --> 0:38:22.920 children on roadblocks. I've cursed out peep on Girl Garden. 0:38:22.960 --> 0:38:24.880 I've cursed out people on Dressed to Impress. 0:38:25.560 --> 0:38:28.880 It's like, are you Are you okay? Is that a 0:38:29.360 --> 0:38:30.880 symptom of some underlying no? 0:38:30.960 --> 0:38:32.279 Because they're so like. 0:38:32.280 --> 0:38:34.000 The kids on there, they know how to push your button, 0:38:34.080 --> 0:38:35.560 so it's like they'll do certain things to try and 0:38:35.600 --> 0:38:36.160 push your buttons. 0:38:36.160 --> 0:38:37.360 Then you can't curse on roadblocks. 0:38:37.400 --> 0:38:39.319 Well that's so funny because I'm I'm sorry. I keep 0:38:39.400 --> 0:38:42.480 referencing other things that happened on this podcast, but some 0:38:42.600 --> 0:38:44.359 I talked to somebody I think it was maybe even 0:38:44.400 --> 0:38:47.120 on the last episode, and we talked about anger, like, 0:38:47.360 --> 0:38:50.719 like you know, like anger as a displacement mmm, and 0:38:50.800 --> 0:38:53.239 like the idea that like anger is usually just a 0:38:53.280 --> 0:38:57.320 displacement from something else. Yeah, Like you're not actually angry exactly. 0:38:57.320 --> 0:39:01.399 I'm actually angry at this kid on roadblocks, but in 0:39:01.440 --> 0:39:05.279 this moment, sometimes you genuinely just are angry at. 0:39:05.239 --> 0:39:09.200 The yes, I was just gonna say, I completely get 0:39:09.200 --> 0:39:11.359 what you're saying, because I mean, just as humans, it's 0:39:11.360 --> 0:39:13.600 like we could go through something and like me at work, 0:39:13.640 --> 0:39:15.480 like let's say i'll go through something, I can't necessarily 0:39:15.560 --> 0:39:17.120 curse out my boss, so maybe I'll take it out 0:39:17.160 --> 0:39:19.800 on rodblocks later on. No, I can't say. With robots, 0:39:19.840 --> 0:39:22.080 that's not the case. Those kids know how to push 0:39:22.080 --> 0:39:24.640 your button. It's like I've been I just cursed out 0:39:24.680 --> 0:39:27.760 a kid yesterday because I was playing among us and 0:39:27.960 --> 0:39:31.960 they purposely, like completely disregarded the fact that I was 0:39:32.000 --> 0:39:36.000 not the impostor and rowed everyone else up to throw 0:39:36.080 --> 0:39:38.560 me out the ship and kick me into the lava 0:39:38.680 --> 0:39:39.120 of flames. 0:39:39.160 --> 0:39:41.640 Turns out I wasn't in, so I'm gonna get riled 0:39:41.680 --> 0:39:42.000 up again. 0:39:42.040 --> 0:39:43.160 But yeah, they know how to push it. 0:39:47.560 --> 0:39:49.040 I really went off on this kid. 0:39:49.080 --> 0:39:50.920 But the thing is where robots is, you can't curse, 0:39:50.920 --> 0:39:53.080 so it just shows up as like the number sign, 0:39:53.160 --> 0:39:56.080 which is even more aggravating because. 0:39:55.800 --> 0:39:58.839 Like, well, I I gotta say, Clay, I had no 0:39:58.880 --> 0:40:02.400 interest in Fortnite or Roadblocks are among us before this conversation, 0:40:02.680 --> 0:40:05.360 but I'm happy that I have, and I have unfortunately 0:40:05.440 --> 0:40:07.880 even less now but uh, I'll give you. 0:40:07.920 --> 0:40:09.600 I'll give you a raid on Twitch sometimes. 0:40:09.680 --> 0:40:12.600 Yeah, I mean I'm I'm not on there, but I 0:40:12.600 --> 0:40:13.759 will want you to be on Twitch. 0:40:13.840 --> 0:40:15.480 Okay, sweet s all right, I'll think of I'll think 0:40:15.480 --> 0:40:16.839 about it. I'll think about it. Is there anything else 0:40:16.840 --> 0:40:17.920 you want to say to the people before we go? 0:40:18.040 --> 0:40:29.080 Chloe, stay in school, stay in school, don't curst out 0:40:29.160 --> 0:40:30.600 kids on roadblocks, don't be like me. 0:40:31.239 --> 0:40:36.640 Yeah, it's not cool. And stop stealing people's ship on dressed. 0:40:36.360 --> 0:40:38.680 On paying money to steal something, you might as well 0:40:38.719 --> 0:40:39.480 pay for the things. 0:40:39.320 --> 0:40:41.760 That you stop stealing from my garden. 0:40:42.080 --> 0:40:48.359 Stop to steal. See you, kloy. What is your name, sir? 0:40:49.440 --> 0:40:50.800 I'm Rock Rock. 0:40:50.920 --> 0:40:54.560 Rock Yeah, like r O C K yeah, almost take 0:40:54.600 --> 0:40:55.279 out the k wait. 0:40:55.280 --> 0:40:56.080 How do you spell it? 0:40:56.160 --> 0:40:57.799 Take out the k r C Yeah? 0:40:57.960 --> 0:40:58.200 Rock? 0:40:58.400 --> 0:40:59.359 Yeah, that's a cool name. 0:40:59.520 --> 0:40:59.880 Thank you? 0:41:00.239 --> 0:41:00.839 What's up? Rock? 0:41:02.000 --> 0:41:03.960 Okay, we did a fist, But how's how's life? 0:41:04.040 --> 0:41:04.200 Rock? 0:41:04.280 --> 0:41:05.239 What are we up to? 0:41:06.120 --> 0:41:08.439 I'm not liking it much, but I just I came 0:41:08.480 --> 0:41:12.200 over here right now to say that I really like 0:41:12.200 --> 0:41:16.600 like goos are like my favorite animals. That's one thing, Like, uh, 0:41:18.360 --> 0:41:21.200 it's because of it's my favorite pokemon. 0:41:21.360 --> 0:41:22.560 Wait, give. 0:41:24.719 --> 0:41:29.040 I'm just checking and make sure that's so good. That's 0:41:29.040 --> 0:41:32.720 so good, okay, sick. I was just making sure sometimes 0:41:32.760 --> 0:41:33.760 the things. 0:41:33.440 --> 0:41:35.120 Up, ok yeah. 0:41:35.520 --> 0:41:38.000 And the other thing is my next session with my 0:41:38.080 --> 0:41:45.040 therapist might be my last one unfortunately, because I just 0:41:45.160 --> 0:41:50.239 missed him. He's gonna he's gonna do he's he's taking 0:41:50.239 --> 0:41:54.120 care of he's taking care of things, and uh, okay, 0:41:54.239 --> 0:41:56.560 I'm just gonna miss him. I missed my sister too 0:41:56.600 --> 0:42:00.120 because she moved out. I know those are like all 0:42:00.520 --> 0:42:02.399 of those like tangents. I don't mean to be this, 0:42:03.560 --> 0:42:05.840 I just wanted to say those two things. 0:42:05.880 --> 0:42:07.080 What's up with your sister again? 0:42:07.600 --> 0:42:10.160 She moved to Virginia. I haven't seen her in a minute, 0:42:10.200 --> 0:42:14.359 and she doesn't want contact with nobody in the house 0:42:14.400 --> 0:42:17.160 no more. Not to put on blast and ship. But 0:42:17.360 --> 0:42:18.759 you know that's just what it is. 0:42:19.200 --> 0:42:22.799 Well, we can we can, you know, we can talk 0:42:22.800 --> 0:42:25.880 about uh. I feel like for the last twenty minutes 0:42:25.920 --> 0:42:28.880 we were just talking about video games and fun light things, 0:42:29.480 --> 0:42:32.319 which is normally normally a lot of this show is 0:42:32.360 --> 0:42:36.200 talking about UH, like like intense, and I was gonna say, 0:42:36.200 --> 0:42:37.399 if you wanted to if you want to. 0:42:37.320 --> 0:42:39.560 Talk about in this highest life going bad. 0:42:39.600 --> 0:42:40.200 We can. 0:42:41.600 --> 0:42:45.879 In this hot as sun. Sure, I don't. I don't 0:42:45.920 --> 0:42:46.920 think I want to. I don't want to. 0:42:46.920 --> 0:42:48.520 I don't think I want to get that deep. I 0:42:48.600 --> 0:42:50.239 might get that deep. I want whatever you want. 0:42:50.320 --> 0:42:50.480 Man. 0:42:50.600 --> 0:42:57.879 So here's the thing, right, I hope with the show. 0:42:58.040 --> 0:43:02.080 Okay, cool to say you've seen seen the show? Yeah, okay, sweet. 0:43:02.360 --> 0:43:04.480 Yeah, I'm I'm kind of a fan. 0:43:05.200 --> 0:43:08.560 Yeah, hell yeah, hell, thank you rock. I'm glad people 0:43:08.560 --> 0:43:09.279 are still listening to this. 0:43:09.520 --> 0:43:13.040 Yeah, episode was Zach Fox and all that. 0:43:13.520 --> 0:43:15.160 I'm a big fan of Zach Fox. 0:43:16.920 --> 0:43:17.239 And you. 0:43:17.920 --> 0:43:24.960 Uh And I just met what's his name, Mark Ribley 0:43:25.400 --> 0:43:26.399 and he was on the show too. 0:43:26.400 --> 0:43:27.760 Actually, yeah I remember. 0:43:28.160 --> 0:43:29.200 I think he's in New York, man. 0:43:29.440 --> 0:43:32.120 Yeah, so's it's just a lot going on today. 0:43:33.160 --> 0:43:33.920 You met him today? 0:43:34.320 --> 0:43:34.600 Yeah? 0:43:34.760 --> 0:43:38.319 Oh ship it was pretty cool, ye like Mark? 0:43:38.880 --> 0:43:41.920 Yeah, hit this park? Mark is in this park? 0:43:42.200 --> 0:43:45.839 No, not in not right now? It was like hours ago. 0:43:46.200 --> 0:43:48.960 Oh yeah. 0:43:49.600 --> 0:43:50.000 Yeah. 0:43:50.680 --> 0:43:55.200 So I'm a cartoonist and Archie Bornora. 0:43:55.200 --> 0:43:58.480 I'm low key like the best Marvel fan fiction writer 0:43:59.719 --> 0:44:03.560 like ever, and like nobody knows this because I haven't 0:44:03.560 --> 0:44:06.239 put anything out yet, but like ever since I was 0:44:06.280 --> 0:44:13.120 a six year old, I've been like a huge Marvel fan, right, 0:44:13.719 --> 0:44:17.960 And I've always wanted to write for them when I 0:44:18.000 --> 0:44:20.319 was younger, and I still want to write for them now. 0:44:20.320 --> 0:44:23.600 I still got these stories and I want to put 0:44:23.640 --> 0:44:28.640 them out. But it's all fan fiction at the fan 0:44:28.680 --> 0:44:33.080 fiction at the moment, I'm not I'm not here just 0:44:33.080 --> 0:44:33.920 to go off about this. 0:44:34.000 --> 0:44:39.719 No, no, no, no, no, this is excellent. You were the 0:44:39.719 --> 0:44:44.480 best Marvel fan fiction writer. Yeah, tell me what is 0:44:44.520 --> 0:44:45.960 your Marvel fan fiction about? 0:44:46.440 --> 0:44:46.520 So? 0:44:46.640 --> 0:44:49.279 I got some ship right where it's like, oh my bad? 0:44:50.080 --> 0:44:50.839 Do you say what? Everyone? 0:44:50.880 --> 0:44:51.160 All right? 0:44:51.200 --> 0:44:51.480 Cool? 0:44:51.520 --> 0:44:52.640 So I got some shit like. 0:44:55.040 --> 0:44:57.720 I write for Loki type ship, Like I write stories 0:44:57.760 --> 0:45:00.840 for Loki because Loki is kind of a in a 0:45:00.840 --> 0:45:02.000 weird space right now. 0:45:02.160 --> 0:45:03.959 I don't want to geek out over this shit, right. 0:45:04.840 --> 0:45:05.439 You live your truth. 0:45:05.640 --> 0:45:08.719 Loki is in such a weird spot right now as 0:45:08.800 --> 0:45:11.680 a like Marvel villain, yeah you know what I mean. 0:45:11.719 --> 0:45:12.399 Like he's not even a. 0:45:12.360 --> 0:45:12.919 Villain no more. 0:45:12.920 --> 0:45:15.879 He like came back reborn as like a child since 0:45:15.920 --> 0:45:18.200 like twenty thirteen, and he's been on some shiit like 0:45:18.239 --> 0:45:21.359 he's been a young avenger, you know what I mean? 0:45:22.040 --> 0:45:24.480 And uh it kind of he kind of lost his 0:45:24.560 --> 0:45:28.279 soul as a villain because he's like one of the 0:45:28.320 --> 0:45:32.360 big Marvel villains villain. 0:45:32.200 --> 0:45:33.439 Because he's not a villain no more. 0:45:33.600 --> 0:45:36.239 Oh is he like Cannon? He's kind of he's I 0:45:36.239 --> 0:45:38.080 don't know much. I don't I'm not a big Marvel guy. 0:45:38.080 --> 0:45:40.160 But like, is Loki like an anti hero a bit? 0:45:40.640 --> 0:45:42.920 He's a full superhero now? 0:45:43.200 --> 0:45:43.680 Oh he is? 0:45:43.840 --> 0:45:44.200 Yeah? 0:45:44.320 --> 0:45:46.160 Okay, so he's not even doing like a Shadow of 0:45:46.160 --> 0:45:49.200 the Hedgehog thing where he's like he's a superhero, but 0:45:49.239 --> 0:45:49.880 he says. 0:45:49.680 --> 0:45:52.480 Fuck no, he's a full on superhero now, okay. 0:45:53.040 --> 0:45:56.960 Yeah, Like and you missed when he was a dick, No, 0:45:57.120 --> 0:46:02.520 I miss more like if let's say, I don't want 0:46:02.520 --> 0:46:05.319 to give away too much, damn to give way too much? 0:46:05.320 --> 0:46:08.319 If you're Fana if not even yeah, but. 0:46:08.280 --> 0:46:10.000 Not just that, but like more like. 0:46:12.480 --> 0:46:16.279 If he's the first in the first Avengers comic book, right, 0:46:16.680 --> 0:46:19.680 he's the first villain they fight off fight against, right, 0:46:20.160 --> 0:46:22.280 and in the in the in the thor books, he's 0:46:22.320 --> 0:46:26.239 like built up to be like his arch nemesis, right, 0:46:26.680 --> 0:46:30.319 So like in twenty around twenty twelve, I don't know 0:46:30.360 --> 0:46:34.239 the story twenty twelve, twenty eleven, right, he dies as 0:46:34.280 --> 0:46:38.439 a villain comes back reborn as a kid, and he's 0:46:38.480 --> 0:46:42.160 on the Young Avengers and he's been a Young Avenger 0:46:42.480 --> 0:46:45.279 ever since, just growing up on there. I really don't 0:46:45.280 --> 0:46:48.279 want to ramble about this shit for too long, but 0:46:48.400 --> 0:46:51.279 I really like, I am passionate about this shit. 0:46:51.400 --> 0:46:52.680 I just don't want to ramble about this. 0:46:52.920 --> 0:46:55.280 Okay, Well, well let me ask you this, right, because 0:46:55.360 --> 0:46:57.399 I do want to talk to you about something. 0:46:57.600 --> 0:46:58.960 Well, well, okay, I'm curious. 0:46:58.960 --> 0:47:00.520 I still want to I'm still about to a Marvel 0:47:00.520 --> 0:47:01.960 because all right, let me ask you this from like 0:47:01.960 --> 0:47:03.040 an intrinsic level. 0:47:03.280 --> 0:47:05.720 Yeah, what is it that connects you so deeply with Marvel? 0:47:05.719 --> 0:47:07.879 Because you see, you seem like a huge, huge, huge 0:47:07.920 --> 0:47:09.920 fan a big part of your life. Do you care 0:47:09.960 --> 0:47:11.719 about these characters as if they were people that you 0:47:11.800 --> 0:47:12.520 knew in your life? 0:47:12.760 --> 0:47:13.799 Like what what is that? 0:47:14.400 --> 0:47:17.520 One would be my cousin cousins, but two would be 0:47:17.640 --> 0:47:20.759 like the X Men. The x Men really resonated with 0:47:20.800 --> 0:47:24.680 the X Men growing up in the Hulk, of course, 0:47:25.400 --> 0:47:28.880 and stan Lee and stan Lee as well, because Stanley 0:47:28.920 --> 0:47:33.279 has always been uh an inspiration, like a little life inspiration. 0:47:33.480 --> 0:47:38.600 Act the X Men that that you saw, like did 0:47:38.600 --> 0:47:41.440 you see yourself and the X Men. What were the 0:47:41.480 --> 0:47:45.040 conflicts and the characters and the storylines where you were like, oh, 0:47:45.040 --> 0:47:45.840 I can relate. 0:47:45.600 --> 0:47:48.960 To this nothing. I just really thought Gambit en Rogue 0:47:49.080 --> 0:47:52.040 was cool. I thought Gambit was cool and Rogue was hot. 0:47:52.200 --> 0:47:54.279 I'm trying, you know, I'm trying to put some kind 0:47:54.320 --> 0:47:58.360 of philosophical whatever thing into it. It's like I just 0:47:58.400 --> 0:48:01.239 thought you were hot and cool. Yeah, which is just 0:48:01.239 --> 0:48:02.440 with a more normal answer. 0:48:02.719 --> 0:48:04.120 Yeah, I was a six year old. 0:48:04.360 --> 0:48:08.520 Yeah, really, I guess I didn't see myself in SpongeBob 0:48:08.560 --> 0:48:10.759 We Live. Me at six years old, Me at six 0:48:10.840 --> 0:48:12.719 years old and SpongeBob we didn't really have a lot 0:48:12.760 --> 0:48:13.760 in common, but I didn't. 0:48:14.120 --> 0:48:14.680 I liked it. 0:48:14.880 --> 0:48:15.399 He was cool. 0:48:15.880 --> 0:48:16.320 Yeah. 0:48:16.760 --> 0:48:18.320 So you write a lot of fan fiction. 0:48:19.000 --> 0:48:19.759 Yeah, kind of. 0:48:20.080 --> 0:48:20.319 I don't. 0:48:20.360 --> 0:48:22.000 I want to, I say, I write a lot of 0:48:22.000 --> 0:48:22.520 fan fiction. 0:48:22.560 --> 0:48:25.000 I got a lot of ideas from Marvel that like 0:48:25.800 --> 0:48:29.880 I'm I'm the guy I'm gonna tell you, like literally, 0:48:30.520 --> 0:48:33.320 here's what I've always been that like since high school, 0:48:33.680 --> 0:48:35.040 like genuinely. 0:48:34.520 --> 0:48:37.600 My philosophy on fan fiction. Here's the thing is that listen, 0:48:37.680 --> 0:48:39.120 how old how old is Spider Man? 0:48:39.239 --> 0:48:41.000 Like he's like eighty, right, by. 0:48:40.880 --> 0:48:44.720 Now seventy something, I think he's seventy six now. 0:48:45.640 --> 0:48:51.200 And Spider Man, and like Marvel was never really Marvel's. 0:48:51.360 --> 0:48:55.000 I mean, they're stan Lee, sure, but Marvel's not really 0:48:55.000 --> 0:48:57.080 in our tour project, you know. 0:48:57.640 --> 0:48:59.680 And what an our tour project like? 0:48:59.719 --> 0:49:02.680 It's not like what it's like, not like one person 0:49:03.440 --> 0:49:07.399 is driving what Spider Man is, right, spider Man. At 0:49:07.400 --> 0:49:10.040 this point, so many different people have written for Spider 0:49:10.160 --> 0:49:12.880 like Lily, hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people have 0:49:12.960 --> 0:49:15.520 written these Marvel stories for Spider Man and for the 0:49:15.600 --> 0:49:19.800 Hulk and for whatever, and so already these these characters 0:49:19.800 --> 0:49:23.760 have gone beyond ownership of one person and just into 0:49:23.800 --> 0:49:24.720 the public domain. 0:49:25.360 --> 0:49:29.719 I mean, not financially, I'm not gonna make any money 0:49:29.760 --> 0:49:33.000 off of your Spider Man fan fiction, because even if 0:49:33.000 --> 0:49:38.319 you could, the legal protections of America which would strike 0:49:38.360 --> 0:49:39.120 you down to doing that. 0:49:39.239 --> 0:49:45.400 But philosophically, we all own Spider Man, you know, not 0:49:45.560 --> 0:49:48.839 in like again, not in a financial sense, but phil 0:49:49.040 --> 0:49:50.480 we all owned spider So like, if you were to 0:49:50.560 --> 0:49:54.200 write a really good Spider Man comic, it would be 0:49:54.560 --> 0:49:58.359 legally speaking, fan fiction. What's the difference between that and 0:49:58.600 --> 0:50:02.720 whoever the fuck wrote the real thing, I guess besides 0:50:02.760 --> 0:50:04.480 the fact that they can make money of it. 0:50:04.480 --> 0:50:08.080 To a degree. You're absolutely right to a degree. 0:50:08.239 --> 0:50:10.480 But what it does is like when it's under the label, 0:50:10.520 --> 0:50:11.600 it kind of makes a cannon. 0:50:12.800 --> 0:50:15.480 But what is canon? Canon? Yeah, but stan Lee is 0:50:15.480 --> 0:50:16.680 fucking deadad. 0:50:16.800 --> 0:50:22.239 So we got decades of fans that like, have invested 0:50:22.280 --> 0:50:25.920 so much time in Cities comics, no matter how inconsistent 0:50:25.960 --> 0:50:29.000 they are, but there it's it's in a place where 0:50:29.000 --> 0:50:29.640 it's just. 0:50:32.239 --> 0:50:36.600 It's not it makes sorry. I'm on, I'm on, I'm 0:50:36.640 --> 0:50:39.279 speaking of it. I guess, like sometimes sometimes I get 0:50:39.280 --> 0:50:42.360 on this, Like sometimes I get on this like reality 0:50:42.480 --> 0:50:45.920 is a democracy train and then I'm like, but you 0:50:45.960 --> 0:50:49.120 gotta vote. You know, reality is a democracy, but you 0:50:49.120 --> 0:50:51.520 gotta vote, and in your vote, spider Man can be. 0:50:52.960 --> 0:50:55.600 You know, whatever you want. Yeah, you get a vote 0:50:55.600 --> 0:50:56.399 about Spider Man. 0:50:56.520 --> 0:50:58.120 But I don't want to write Spider Man. 0:50:58.280 --> 0:51:01.600 I'm yeah, like you're gonna. 0:51:02.280 --> 0:51:03.280 I love Marvel. 0:51:04.120 --> 0:51:07.520 I love Marvel in general, right, but like, I don't 0:51:07.560 --> 0:51:10.120 think I want to write Spider Man in specific. 0:51:12.360 --> 0:51:15.480 I do not own any merch. I kind of I 0:51:15.600 --> 0:51:16.680 kind of have nothing. 0:51:16.760 --> 0:51:19.960 I have Oh shirts, okay, I got shirt, you got 0:51:19.960 --> 0:51:20.560 a looky shirt. 0:51:21.200 --> 0:51:24.719 No, I gotta I got a Loki picture as a cat. 0:51:24.760 --> 0:51:26.480 I got a cat Loki picture. 0:51:27.840 --> 0:51:28.400 As a shirt. 0:51:28.719 --> 0:51:31.440 No, it's a picture in my house. 0:51:32.040 --> 0:51:35.280 What have you been to? Like, what's the theme park situation? 0:51:35.480 --> 0:51:36.879 I've never been to comic con either. 0:51:36.880 --> 0:51:38.880 I've been to comic Con once, like on a Sunday 0:51:39.080 --> 0:51:42.680 when I was a kid, Like once. I've always I've 0:51:42.719 --> 0:51:44.040 always wanted to go to comic Con. 0:51:44.360 --> 0:51:46.560 Are you born and raised in New York, Man, Yes? And 0:51:47.480 --> 0:51:49.440 so you ever go to like, yeah, New York Comic Con? 0:51:49.680 --> 0:51:49.919 Yeah? 0:51:50.000 --> 0:51:51.440 No, once on a Sunday. 0:51:51.600 --> 0:51:54.200 Okay, how was it whack? 0:51:54.239 --> 0:51:58.120 Because it was a Sunday Comic. 0:51:57.880 --> 0:52:00.120 Con on Sundays and New York has always been. 0:52:01.600 --> 0:52:05.800 For decades. They don't they stop doing all the things, 0:52:06.640 --> 0:52:07.399 all the all the. 0:52:07.320 --> 0:52:10.320 Announcement people walking around with the in the costume. 0:52:10.400 --> 0:52:13.840 I mean, you could buy stuff and see cause players 0:52:14.040 --> 0:52:17.680 and take pictures with cosplayers, and that's fun itself. 0:52:17.760 --> 0:52:20.160 But I wanted to see the other stuff. 0:52:20.320 --> 0:52:24.160 What's the other stuff, like the announcements, the movie announcements, 0:52:24.239 --> 0:52:32.840 the the the the game announcements, the comic book announcements. 0:52:34.880 --> 0:52:37.680 Questioning the panel, I want to talk to the panel all, 0:52:38.280 --> 0:52:39.680 I've never done any of that. 0:52:41.200 --> 0:52:44.560 I was gonna say, well, okay, what are you looking 0:52:44.600 --> 0:52:46.080 forward to in the Marvel universe? 0:52:46.080 --> 0:52:47.520 What should we be looking out for? 0:52:48.800 --> 0:52:50.240 I don't know right now. 0:52:50.640 --> 0:52:55.520 Unfortunately with me, I've always felt like they needed a 0:52:55.640 --> 0:52:58.000 hard reboot since twenty sixteen. 0:52:58.520 --> 0:53:01.319 I don't think it was John Hickman's fault like. 0:53:01.280 --> 0:53:05.719 That, that that Secret Wars was a soft reboot, and 0:53:05.719 --> 0:53:07.480 I don't think that's a secret anymore. 0:53:07.760 --> 0:53:10.360 It used to be my little secret. It's not a secret. 0:53:11.360 --> 0:53:15.560 I think like marveled needs a hard reboot, and I 0:53:15.680 --> 0:53:18.360 felt like I've always felt like I was I was 0:53:18.400 --> 0:53:20.640 the guy to do it, which is why I've made 0:53:21.640 --> 0:53:25.799 my own Marvel universe and all my uh, you have 0:53:25.840 --> 0:53:29.040 your own cannon genuinely, yes, that that part is true. 0:53:29.080 --> 0:53:31.200 Yes, And you have your own canon, and and is 0:53:31.239 --> 0:53:33.480 it just you mainly, right, Loki or the other guy? 0:53:33.840 --> 0:53:34.240 I write? 0:53:34.400 --> 0:53:34.920 Everybody? 0:53:37.160 --> 0:53:37.319 Man. 0:53:39.480 --> 0:53:42.120 The only only changes I even't made to Spider Man 0:53:42.320 --> 0:53:45.480 was the kid in the marriage. But that's already a thing. 0:53:45.560 --> 0:53:47.839 It's not cannon, but it's already a thing, like yeah, 0:53:47.920 --> 0:53:52.480 Spiderling and Spider and Spinneret, who was Mary Jane as 0:53:52.560 --> 0:53:53.200 Spider Man? 0:53:53.360 --> 0:53:57.239 I feel like I've told the story for when I 0:53:57.320 --> 0:53:59.560 was in high school. Yeah, I had a bet with 0:53:59.600 --> 0:54:04.000 my friend and because I had discovered this Spider Man. 0:54:04.040 --> 0:54:05.759 Maybe you know this because you're a big Marvel guy. 0:54:05.920 --> 0:54:11.920 There's a Spider Man comic where Spider Man kills Mary 0:54:12.000 --> 0:54:14.720 Jane with his radioactive seamen. 0:54:15.640 --> 0:54:17.799 Not it's the thing. 0:54:17.880 --> 0:54:21.840 It's a thing, a thing I don't know, and he 0:54:21.920 --> 0:54:24.759 doesn't like it's not like they have sex once and 0:54:24.840 --> 0:54:27.520 like he shoots come so fast that it like shoots 0:54:27.520 --> 0:54:28.600 through like a bullet or anything. 0:54:29.080 --> 0:54:29.520 What happened. 0:54:30.280 --> 0:54:34.279 What happens is she develops cancer as a result of 0:54:34.400 --> 0:54:38.360 like this is this is she develops cancer as a 0:54:38.400 --> 0:54:41.560 result of taking too many cream pies from Spider Man. 0:54:42.480 --> 0:54:43.799 And so I had a bet with my friend that 0:54:43.880 --> 0:54:47.560 this comic existed. Yes, Spider Man killed Mary Jane with 0:54:47.600 --> 0:54:49.160 his coms. Like that's not true. 0:54:49.280 --> 0:54:50.920 There's that happens. 0:54:51.000 --> 0:54:55.120 But yeah, yeah, like okay, I have more questions for you. 0:54:55.160 --> 0:54:58.319 But the And my friend was like, and I showed 0:54:58.360 --> 0:55:00.799 him the comic and my friend was like, she dies 0:55:00.840 --> 0:55:03.440 of cancer, not of come yeah, And I was like, 0:55:03.520 --> 0:55:04.960 fuck you, you only ten dollars. 0:55:05.040 --> 0:55:07.080 This is he killed her with the he definitely. 0:55:07.239 --> 0:55:09.080 He's like, no, the cancer killed her, not to come 0:55:09.160 --> 0:55:11.160 and I was like, fuck you, that's a technicality. 0:55:11.760 --> 0:55:13.360 It's like this day, he still thinks. 0:55:13.120 --> 0:55:15.760 He was like the microwave of the cancer, which came first. 0:55:15.760 --> 0:55:16.799 That's literally what he said. 0:55:16.880 --> 0:55:19.000 It's like saying like someone died of a microwave when 0:55:19.239 --> 0:55:22.680 they died of cancer. Yeah, And I'm like, anyway, wait, 0:55:22.680 --> 0:55:24.440 what's the sick Okay, you said the sick of stuff. 0:55:24.440 --> 0:55:26.399 What's the sickest thing that we might not know about 0:55:26.440 --> 0:55:28.440 that's hiding within the Marvel universe? 0:55:28.600 --> 0:55:33.120 So something that that genuinely happened, right, Norman Osborne the 0:55:33.160 --> 0:55:35.680 guy that kills Mary Jane by dropping her off a 0:55:35.760 --> 0:55:39.200 fucking building, Oh not not to say like that, by 0:55:39.280 --> 0:55:41.399 dropping her off for how else is there to say? 0:55:41.680 --> 0:55:43.160 By dropping her off a bridge? 0:55:43.600 --> 0:55:43.799 Right? 0:55:45.239 --> 0:55:49.239 When after he kills her years later, right, he clones her? 0:55:49.640 --> 0:55:51.319 Whoa clones her? 0:55:52.080 --> 0:55:55.399 And then he has sex with the clone really and 0:55:55.440 --> 0:56:00.680 then they have kids. So now Harry Osbourne has a 0:56:00.080 --> 0:56:06.080 a Mary a clone baby sister, a clone baby sister 0:56:07.600 --> 0:56:12.080 between gwyn Stacy Norman? 0:56:12.719 --> 0:56:14.640 What what comic weird? 0:56:14.840 --> 0:56:14.920 Like? 0:56:14.920 --> 0:56:15.839 What comic is that? 0:56:16.800 --> 0:56:19.160 It's oh like two thousand and five, two thousand and six. 0:56:20.040 --> 0:56:23.680 I think around two thousand and four. Maybe, I don't know. 0:56:23.880 --> 0:56:26.440 I haven't read that either. I just know that that happened. 0:56:26.440 --> 0:56:29.560 And it's so funny that, like if you go, if 0:56:29.560 --> 0:56:32.839 you like on the shallow side of Marble, it's like, oh, 0:56:32.960 --> 0:56:36.200 Green Goblin robbed a bank, but Spider Man saved him. Yeah, 0:56:36.600 --> 0:56:38.759 the at the deepest part of the iceberg, it's like 0:56:39.360 --> 0:56:43.800 the Green Goblin clone Spider Man's girlfriends and a child with. 0:56:43.680 --> 0:56:45.360 Her, and then the impregnated the clone. 0:56:45.880 --> 0:56:47.480 What's your life like outside of Marble man? 0:56:47.520 --> 0:56:47.960 Who are you? 0:56:49.719 --> 0:56:52.640 I'm just a cartoonist guy. 0:56:53.200 --> 0:56:54.080 Uh. 0:56:54.200 --> 0:56:57.600 I've been unemployed for a while, just trying to get 0:56:57.640 --> 0:57:01.400 some work. I want my video games really really badly, 0:57:03.000 --> 0:57:04.480 and to move out my mom's crib. 0:57:05.480 --> 0:57:05.600 Uh. 0:57:07.480 --> 0:57:10.480 And I make my own comic books, I make my 0:57:10.520 --> 0:57:11.360 own music. 0:57:11.680 --> 0:57:13.560 What video games have you? We just talked a lot 0:57:13.560 --> 0:57:15.440 about video games. I'll talk about him again. 0:57:15.760 --> 0:57:20.360 All all those Marvel games that's come up very recent. 0:57:21.080 --> 0:57:23.360 I'm a fighting game guy, but also Marble. 0:57:23.560 --> 0:57:25.040 Like Injustice, you're a Justice guy. 0:57:25.120 --> 0:57:28.400 Or I don't like Injustice or Teching. I don't play 0:57:28.400 --> 0:57:29.640 in Justice or Teching anymore. 0:57:30.720 --> 0:57:31.400 You hate d C. 0:57:31.640 --> 0:57:32.920 Right, I don't hate d C. 0:57:33.040 --> 0:57:33.640 You don't hate d C. 0:57:33.760 --> 0:57:34.360 I don't hate d C. 0:57:34.480 --> 0:57:35.760 I feel like you don't hate d C. 0:57:36.040 --> 0:57:40.800 I'm I'm like, I'm like a cult member when it 0:57:40.840 --> 0:57:43.800 comes to Marvel, and I'm a fan when it comes 0:57:43.800 --> 0:57:44.200 to d C. 0:57:44.400 --> 0:57:46.120 Okay, I thought you're a cult Marvel when it comes 0:57:46.120 --> 0:57:48.280 to Marvel, and like DC's the rival cults. 0:57:48.600 --> 0:57:50.880 Nah, I'm I don't. I don't have a beef of DC. 0:57:52.280 --> 0:57:55.520 Mean, so wait, what are the Marvel video games out? 0:57:56.600 --> 0:57:57.160 Lego Marble? 0:57:57.200 --> 0:57:58.400 The Lego Marble games are sick. 0:57:58.920 --> 0:58:02.000 I don't play Lego marbl either. I believe the Lego 0:58:02.040 --> 0:58:04.240 Marvel games is fun, though I used to. I used 0:58:04.240 --> 0:58:05.960 to play Lego games when I was a kid. I 0:58:06.040 --> 0:58:10.080 used to own Lego Star Wars or the PlayStation two. 0:58:10.480 --> 0:58:11.240 What job? 0:58:11.320 --> 0:58:13.720 What job did you have before you runemployed? Or were 0:58:13.720 --> 0:58:14.280 you in school? 0:58:14.600 --> 0:58:15.240 Uh? 0:58:16.080 --> 0:58:18.240 Not much, not not much. I don't want to talk 0:58:18.280 --> 0:58:18.720 about this. 0:58:19.720 --> 0:58:22.800 I just want to I just want to be employed, dog. 0:58:24.000 --> 0:58:26.440 What's your I wonder I'm trying to. 0:58:27.440 --> 0:58:29.400 I wonder if this podcast can help you find a 0:58:29.480 --> 0:58:31.120 job somehow likely. 0:58:32.800 --> 0:58:36.800 I'm not looking for anything in particular. I'm twenty eight. 0:58:37.080 --> 0:58:39.200 I just I do want to make my comic books. 0:58:39.240 --> 0:58:42.360 I got my comic books. Uh, but I need my 0:58:42.440 --> 0:58:48.840 money beforehand so I could illustrate more. Yeah, obviously, and 0:58:48.960 --> 0:58:52.520 play my video games more and live a happier life 0:58:52.720 --> 0:58:56.560 instead of uh, the ship people try to well project 0:58:56.640 --> 0:58:58.080 on me all fucking day. 0:58:58.400 --> 0:59:00.040 For the past five years. 0:59:00.280 --> 0:59:02.160 People are projecting projecting ship on you. 0:59:02.480 --> 0:59:05.320 I don't want to talk about it right now, but yeah, 0:59:06.720 --> 0:59:07.200 I know. 0:59:07.240 --> 0:59:13.200 Is there is there definitely definitely good place. 0:59:13.000 --> 0:59:13.680 To do that, right. 0:59:15.440 --> 0:59:17.040 We don't have to talk about that. I'm perfectly happy 0:59:17.080 --> 0:59:20.120 to have talked about Marvel and it's good. 0:59:20.160 --> 0:59:21.000 It's nice. 0:59:21.160 --> 0:59:23.120 I feel like to This podcast has been a nice 0:59:23.520 --> 0:59:27.120 We've talked about a lot of just episode freshing, episode, 0:59:27.440 --> 0:59:28.240 your name again, Rock? 0:59:28.560 --> 0:59:29.480 Yeah, Rock Rock. 0:59:29.520 --> 0:59:30.880 Is there anything else you gonna say to the people 0:59:30.920 --> 0:59:31.800 before we get out of here? 0:59:32.080 --> 0:59:37.240 Yeah? Follow me at Ace Rock Sola. I'm gonna I 0:59:37.240 --> 0:59:40.880 want to drop a song. I want to drop more music, 0:59:41.600 --> 0:59:45.240 I think, uh, and those comic books are definitely on 0:59:45.320 --> 0:59:50.000 the way. If more music ain't after that first couple songs, you. 0:59:49.960 --> 0:59:54.240 Want to talk, Oh, come on, I have a see it, sir. 0:59:54.320 --> 1:00:00.320 It'll be fun. He doesn't want to hit I want 1:00:00.360 --> 1:00:02.200 to do it. You can eat the ice cream on 1:00:02.200 --> 1:00:04.360 one at the same time. I want you can bring 1:00:04.400 --> 1:00:08.080 the you can bring the ice cream, all right, Rock. 1:00:08.360 --> 1:00:10.280 Very nice to meet you. Man, nice to meet you too. 1:00:10.760 --> 1:00:12.440 I uh, I'll see you in the universe. Dude, good 1:00:12.480 --> 1:00:12.840 luck with that. 1:00:13.440 --> 1:00:15.000 I'm sorry. Did you plug yourself just now? 1:00:15.560 --> 1:00:15.760 Yeah? 1:00:15.920 --> 1:00:17.000 Okay? Good good? Sorry? 1:00:17.000 --> 1:00:19.040 I was my brain can't focus on two things at once. 1:00:19.080 --> 1:00:20.560 I was trying to get that guy to talk. But 1:00:21.480 --> 1:00:22.800 give me give me a plug again because I want 1:00:22.800 --> 1:00:23.200 to follow you. 1:00:23.840 --> 1:00:26.400 Uh oh, ship, I got sweat my h. 1:00:26.760 --> 1:00:27.800 Yeah, what happens? 1:00:28.520 --> 1:00:33.400 Ace Rock Solo on Instagram Ace Rock Solo Yeah and 1:00:34.040 --> 1:00:34.480 coming soon. 1:00:34.560 --> 1:00:37.120 Okay, sick, thank you. Nice to meet your rock. I'll 1:00:37.080 --> 1:00:37.840 see around universe. 1:00:37.840 --> 1:00:40.720 Man, Sun, see you around the universe as well. Man, 1:00:41.600 --> 1:00:44.000 fuck with geckles, Thank you, I fuck with rocks. 1:00:45.880 --> 1:00:47.640 Where's that guy with the ice cream? Do you leave? 1:00:48.800 --> 1:00:56.280 What was he gone? I'm doing good? What's your name? Jayden? 1:00:56.720 --> 1:00:59.160 Nice to meet Jayden? What's up, Jane? What's the Jaden? 1:00:59.200 --> 1:01:00.000 What's the meaning of life? 1:01:00.240 --> 1:01:01.160 What's the meaning of life? 1:01:01.200 --> 1:01:02.040 Yeah, to live it. 1:01:02.760 --> 1:01:05.720 At the end of the day, you may not find 1:01:05.720 --> 1:01:07.320 your purpose. You may not have a purpose for real 1:01:07.440 --> 1:01:09.480 but at the end of the day, just live your 1:01:09.520 --> 1:01:11.200 life how you wanted to live it. If you want 1:01:11.240 --> 1:01:13.080 to be a bum the whole time, that's fun. If 1:01:13.080 --> 1:01:15.760 you wanted to like go do some something big, that's fun. 1:01:16.320 --> 1:01:17.880 You may leave a mark on the world, you may not. 1:01:17.960 --> 1:01:19.960 It doesn't matter. The war is gonna turn regardless of 1:01:20.080 --> 1:01:20.960 if you let the mark or not. 1:01:21.320 --> 1:01:23.400 Where How do you feel do you feel like being 1:01:23.400 --> 1:01:24.960 a bomber? Do you feel like doing stuff? 1:01:26.840 --> 1:01:28.640 I used to be a bum. I'm not gonna lot, 1:01:28.840 --> 1:01:30.000 but now I feel like doing things. 1:01:30.480 --> 1:01:33.040 What How did you change from bumming to doing things? 1:01:33.160 --> 1:01:37.120 I had to stop being depressed depressed? 1:01:37.160 --> 1:01:38.520 How did you stop being depressed? 1:01:40.600 --> 1:01:43.040 To be honest, I kind of have like a secret superpower. 1:01:43.080 --> 1:01:45.640 It's called being bipolar. So I smoked some wheed and 1:01:45.640 --> 1:01:47.840 I got manic and my depression went away. And since 1:01:47.880 --> 1:01:49.439 then I've just been on my ship. 1:01:49.600 --> 1:01:51.479 Wait, so smoking weird has gotten you on your ship? 1:01:52.040 --> 1:01:54.120 Yeah, it had me manic. When I smoke weed, I 1:01:54.120 --> 1:01:56.280 get more energy, I don't get I don't get d energized. 1:01:56.400 --> 1:01:57.000 That's so weird. 1:01:57.000 --> 1:02:01.320 Man. I've fully, I fully, full fully accepted that I 1:02:01.360 --> 1:02:02.840 think weed makes me depressed. 1:02:03.120 --> 1:02:03.320 Yeah. 1:02:03.360 --> 1:02:06.520 No, it's opposite for me really, But you don't crash. No, 1:02:06.880 --> 1:02:10.760 you don't crash like in terms of my energy levels. Yeah, no, I. 1:02:10.720 --> 1:02:12.840 Thought it Isn't that one of like the hallmarks of 1:02:12.920 --> 1:02:14.280 mania is the crash. 1:02:14.440 --> 1:02:16.800 Oh yeah, but I'm not manic right now. I'm saying 1:02:16.880 --> 1:02:19.160 it does make me more manic. But like, I know 1:02:19.200 --> 1:02:20.920 how to like control myself now. But the first time 1:02:20.920 --> 1:02:23.040 I went madic, I didn't know what I was doing 1:02:23.040 --> 1:02:24.560 for I thought I was superman. I thought I was 1:02:24.560 --> 1:02:26.360 at a billion I thought I was I don't know 1:02:26.400 --> 1:02:27.120 who I thought it was. 1:02:27.360 --> 1:02:30.240 Are you are you high right now? 1:02:30.600 --> 1:02:30.640 No? 1:02:31.080 --> 1:02:33.080 Okay? Are you gonna get high after this? 1:02:33.680 --> 1:02:35.520 If someone has weed, I might smoke it, I might not. 1:02:35.600 --> 1:02:37.880 I don't know. I work at a dispensary, so oh 1:02:37.880 --> 1:02:38.080 you do. 1:02:38.440 --> 1:02:40.919 Yeah that's cool. What's it like working at a dispensary, to. 1:02:40.840 --> 1:02:42.800 Be honest, I haven't started yet. I have my My 1:02:42.840 --> 1:02:44.640 first day is probably gonna be sometime next week. I 1:02:44.680 --> 1:02:46.720 have an interview on Wednesday. 1:02:47.080 --> 1:02:47.760 It was pretty fire. 1:02:47.800 --> 1:02:49.919 I think it went well. And yeah, she says, you'll 1:02:49.920 --> 1:02:50.560 call me on Monday. 1:02:50.720 --> 1:02:51.480 Are you excited? 1:02:51.840 --> 1:02:53.840 Really exciting? I haven't worked. I haven't worked. I was 1:02:53.880 --> 1:02:56.080 in the military for three years, right in the Air Force. 1:02:57.040 --> 1:02:58.600 That's how I discovered that I was bi polar. You 1:02:58.600 --> 1:03:00.320 were in the military for it for how long years? 1:03:00.360 --> 1:03:02.560 Three years? Wow, that's how I just covered out by polar. 1:03:02.720 --> 1:03:04.040 How did you discover you were by polar? 1:03:04.040 --> 1:03:06.240 I had a manic episode and I was just going crazy, 1:03:06.240 --> 1:03:07.800 and then it got to a point I'm just like, 1:03:07.880 --> 1:03:10.600 I gotta I gotta go to mental health because I 1:03:10.600 --> 1:03:12.400 don't know what I'm doing anymore. I can't I'm not 1:03:12.400 --> 1:03:14.120 controlling my actions. I don't like who I am right now. 1:03:14.400 --> 1:03:17.720 So I went and I told me I'm having a 1:03:17.720 --> 1:03:20.200 mental breakdown this and that, and like, I was still 1:03:20.240 --> 1:03:24.080 manic though, so I didn't take it seriously. But eventually, 1:03:24.160 --> 1:03:27.560 if reality finally sat in, the depression set in after that. 1:03:27.640 --> 1:03:29.720 I was probably manned for like six months and then 1:03:29.720 --> 1:03:33.280 I was depressed for like nine months after that. So yeah, 1:03:33.320 --> 1:03:35.040 reality kind of set in for that. I learned my 1:03:35.160 --> 1:03:40.160 lessons and yeah, I'm not sure if I answered your question. 1:03:42.560 --> 1:03:43.800 I'm not sure I answer your question, but I think 1:03:44.040 --> 1:03:45.360 I don't need to answer any questions. 1:03:45.440 --> 1:03:46.200 I appreciate it. 1:03:46.920 --> 1:03:48.280 What was it like being in the Air Force. We 1:03:48.480 --> 1:03:50.960 just had a guy on last episode, who was over. 1:03:51.640 --> 1:03:52.040 The Air Force? 1:03:52.120 --> 1:03:54.280 Was really fun. I was in Alaska a joint joint 1:03:54.320 --> 1:03:55.320 based almador Forridgerson. 1:03:56.400 --> 1:03:57.000 It was a lot of fun. 1:03:57.080 --> 1:03:59.280 There was air shows. The summer is really good. The 1:03:59.320 --> 1:04:01.640 winter kind of suck because it's so much like dark. 1:04:02.080 --> 1:04:03.880 But in terms of the actual Air Force, I liked it. 1:04:03.880 --> 1:04:06.760 The people were cool. My job was pretty chill. I 1:04:06.840 --> 1:04:09.919 fixed the radars and so it wasn't bad. And yeah, 1:04:09.920 --> 1:04:11.080 I can't complain honestly. 1:04:11.400 --> 1:04:13.320 Do you do you miss the Air Force? 1:04:13.840 --> 1:04:14.040 No? 1:04:14.240 --> 1:04:15.920 I'm so glad to be my own person and have 1:04:16.040 --> 1:04:17.840 my own like schedule. 1:04:18.280 --> 1:04:21.560 So the person who came on last episode, we're talking 1:04:21.560 --> 1:04:23.040 about how like they're like being in the Air Force 1:04:23.080 --> 1:04:25.320 like made their like all their like mental health issues 1:04:25.320 --> 1:04:25.720 like worse. 1:04:26.440 --> 1:04:27.959 Yeah I believe that, do you Yeah? Do you feel 1:04:27.960 --> 1:04:28.840 that it was their job? 1:04:29.240 --> 1:04:29.360 Uh? 1:04:29.840 --> 1:04:30.120 Fuck? 1:04:30.600 --> 1:04:34.200 Because they were like a mechanic over with. If I 1:04:34.240 --> 1:04:36.920 was a mechanic, I would have straight up no. Lie, 1:04:37.280 --> 1:04:39.960 they work eighty They were like eighty plus hour weeks 1:04:39.960 --> 1:04:40.960 and they'll get no breaks. 1:04:41.080 --> 1:04:43.800 I know they're getting into HVAC, but that's not helpful 1:04:43.800 --> 1:04:47.880 at all. Nah. Is there a type of job that 1:04:47.920 --> 1:04:51.000 people who normally go into HVAC who were previously in 1:04:51.040 --> 1:04:51.640 the Air Force. 1:04:51.760 --> 1:04:55.840 Due Yeah, he was probably if he was doing HVAC, 1:04:55.880 --> 1:04:59.440 he was probably. Uh, he's probably HVAC in the Air Force. 1:04:59.680 --> 1:05:02.680 Okay say that. I don't think he was, but let's 1:05:02.720 --> 1:05:03.800 say that that's what he was doing. 1:05:03.880 --> 1:05:07.600 Yeah, So, uh, is your mental health better after leaving 1:05:07.600 --> 1:05:08.080 the Air Force? 1:05:08.640 --> 1:05:10.600 Way better? Yeah, I'm not in Alaska where there's no 1:05:10.680 --> 1:05:12.480 sunlight for six months straight. 1:05:12.600 --> 1:05:14.640 Everyone I talked to you about Alaska says it drives them. 1:05:14.800 --> 1:05:17.680 It drives you crazy. You need to take vitamin D pills. 1:05:17.760 --> 1:05:20.439 So like, because you don't get enough sun you need 1:05:20.480 --> 1:05:22.280 to like be outdoorsy. 1:05:22.320 --> 1:05:24.120 Like if you don't like hiking and ship, good luck, 1:05:24.520 --> 1:05:25.560 because there's nothing else to do. 1:05:26.160 --> 1:05:29.720 So what's your What's what's like next for you? 1:05:30.240 --> 1:05:32.480 Was next to me get into the content creation? So 1:05:33.120 --> 1:05:35.800 I spent today getting content and it's kind of crazy. 1:05:35.840 --> 1:05:37.480 I saw you. I'm like, wow, it's actually a great 1:05:37.480 --> 1:05:39.960 content day. Like I'm at I'm gonna try to interview 1:05:40.000 --> 1:05:42.240 with you, and then yeah, so now I'm doing it 1:05:42.280 --> 1:05:43.640 with you and oh wait. 1:05:43.680 --> 1:05:45.520 You're also recording this for you for your content? 1:05:45.640 --> 1:05:48.560 No, no, no, no, I'm gonna sell your page. Yeah, okay, 1:05:48.600 --> 1:05:50.480 yeah we can, and I'm whatever you posting your story, 1:05:50.480 --> 1:05:51.440 I'm gonna repost it and. 1:05:52.480 --> 1:05:53.080 Go for it. 1:05:53.680 --> 1:05:54.200 And then. 1:05:55.680 --> 1:05:58.040 See this is honestly the first time that I've really 1:05:58.040 --> 1:05:59.480 going out and been like, yo, I'm gonna go get 1:05:59.480 --> 1:05:59.959 my own content. 1:06:00.200 --> 1:06:00.320 Wait. 1:06:01.560 --> 1:06:04.800 So we're so right now we're we're You're on my show, 1:06:04.800 --> 1:06:06.640 but I'm also on your show because you're gonna take 1:06:07.560 --> 1:06:08.960 and you're gonna repost it on your thing. So I'm 1:06:09.000 --> 1:06:10.440 on your show right now, all right, So you know, 1:06:10.680 --> 1:06:14.160 let's do this for this segment. I'm gonna I'm gonna 1:06:14.240 --> 1:06:15.280 let this be your show. 1:06:15.320 --> 1:06:15.600 All right. 1:06:15.640 --> 1:06:17.200 Bet, I have questions for you, all right, Yeah, have 1:06:17.200 --> 1:06:18.960 some questions right, all right, now I'm on your show. 1:06:19.040 --> 1:06:19.280 All right. 1:06:19.320 --> 1:06:21.840 Cool, we grab them real quick notes. 1:06:22.120 --> 1:06:22.880 So you're just gonna go. 1:06:23.000 --> 1:06:24.600 So, by the way, you totally can't do this, don't 1:06:24.640 --> 1:06:26.520 give So you'll you'll go on my YouTube and you 1:06:26.640 --> 1:06:28.240 just rip it and then you'll put it on this 1:06:28.280 --> 1:06:28.720 clip on. 1:06:28.720 --> 1:06:33.800 Your exactly your great. Yeah all right. My YouTube by 1:06:33.800 --> 1:06:35.960 the way is j x y d x N dot sixteen. 1:06:36.600 --> 1:06:39.320 All right, So first question is, Lyle, what are you 1:06:39.320 --> 1:06:40.360 willing to sell your soul for? 1:06:40.640 --> 1:06:40.760 What? 1:06:40.800 --> 1:06:43.160 Am I willing or nothing is worth it? 1:06:43.560 --> 1:06:45.640 I'm plenty of things are willing to sell myself. 1:06:46.120 --> 1:06:47.080 I think I didn't. 1:06:47.240 --> 1:06:49.040 I don't think you get through life without selling your 1:06:49.040 --> 1:06:52.480 soul at least a little true. Maybe I don't know, 1:06:52.520 --> 1:06:54.360 maybe that maybe that's just a projection. I mean, have 1:06:54.400 --> 1:06:55.320 you ever sold your soul? 1:06:55.920 --> 1:06:56.320 You feel? 1:06:56.880 --> 1:06:59.080 Since we're talking a metaphorical sense, no, I haven't. 1:06:59.480 --> 1:07:00.400 I mean to generate. 1:07:00.480 --> 1:07:04.640 I mean, like, if you do anything that generates income, 1:07:05.320 --> 1:07:09.400 which most people do to create, to live, to live, 1:07:09.920 --> 1:07:11.840 you probably sell your soul in some way, shape or. 1:07:11.960 --> 1:07:13.320 Yeah, because you're doing something you don't have to do 1:07:14.360 --> 1:07:15.880 right something. 1:07:15.760 --> 1:07:17.520 Even if you're doing something that you like to do, 1:07:18.360 --> 1:07:20.840 maybe the way in which the thing you like to 1:07:20.880 --> 1:07:22.920 do makes money is a version of a soul, of 1:07:22.920 --> 1:07:25.919 a soul selling true. All right, now, what a great 1:07:26.000 --> 1:07:27.200 what This would be a great place for me to 1:07:27.200 --> 1:07:28.000 put an ad break. 1:07:29.400 --> 1:07:32.560 Go ahead, nice question. If you ruled the world like 1:07:32.600 --> 1:07:35.160 you were king of the world, right, what's the first 1:07:35.160 --> 1:07:37.600 thing you do to discipline people? And then what would 1:07:37.600 --> 1:07:38.600 you do to reward them? 1:07:38.760 --> 1:07:40.360 If I were the king of the world, Yes, I 1:07:40.400 --> 1:07:42.600 would never ever ever want to do that, but of 1:07:42.640 --> 1:07:45.480 course it was like gun to your head. You must 1:07:45.520 --> 1:07:47.680 be the ruler of the world. You must discipline the people. 1:07:48.040 --> 1:07:49.120 How would I discipline them? 1:07:49.240 --> 1:07:50.840 Yeah, like, what's one thing you would do? Like, what's 1:07:50.920 --> 1:07:51.920 one law you open out? 1:07:53.040 --> 1:07:53.960 I'd whip them. 1:07:54.280 --> 1:07:57.440 Huh, I'd whip them. You whip them? No, I don't 1:07:57.480 --> 1:08:00.840 know everyone in line for right now? 1:08:01.280 --> 1:08:02.880 How would I discipline the people? 1:08:03.440 --> 1:08:03.520 Like? 1:08:03.720 --> 1:08:06.720 Like, all right, for example, one person said, no porn 1:08:06.760 --> 1:08:11.200 allowed at all. That's what you know? What with this? 1:08:11.440 --> 1:08:13.800 Well, let me ask you? Yeah, all right, so I 1:08:13.880 --> 1:08:15.080 have to discipline the people. 1:08:15.200 --> 1:08:17.200 It's just one it's just one lawyer to put out 1:08:17.200 --> 1:08:17.800 that discipline them? 1:08:17.880 --> 1:08:19.800 Can I be corrupt and like I don't have to 1:08:19.800 --> 1:08:20.280 follow it? 1:08:20.520 --> 1:08:21.040 Yeah? Sure? 1:08:21.200 --> 1:08:21.840 Okay? 1:08:21.920 --> 1:08:22.519 Who kids a fu? 1:08:22.720 --> 1:08:23.360 Alright? Then? 1:08:29.640 --> 1:08:34.560 Oh, no more sweethearts ropes ropes for anyone? 1:08:34.680 --> 1:08:37.559 Sweet they eat sweetheart ropes? Le's u punishment. 1:08:37.840 --> 1:08:41.559 No more sweethearts ropes for anyone. And if you eat. 1:08:41.439 --> 1:08:45.800 Sweetheart ropes, then you have to give me five dollars. 1:08:46.920 --> 1:08:48.360 So you're a bit nicer than the other guy. The 1:08:48.439 --> 1:08:50.559 other guy said that if they watch porn to get 1:08:50.560 --> 1:08:52.080 the guillotine, to get a hedgehopp. 1:08:52.400 --> 1:08:55.439 That's that's definitely said like a full like a head 1:08:55.439 --> 1:08:58.920 guilt getting your head chopped off. Really, yes, I mean 1:08:58.920 --> 1:09:01.040 at least like I feel, you know, if his name 1:09:01.080 --> 1:09:04.800 was by the way, his name was Raphael, Yes it was. 1:09:05.160 --> 1:09:06.360 That's that's that's spooky. 1:09:06.400 --> 1:09:06.519 Man. 1:09:06.560 --> 1:09:08.439 I don't want to be if I have to be 1:09:08.520 --> 1:09:09.920 the king of something. 1:09:11.200 --> 1:09:13.280 Let's be a bit nicer. So, Hi, reward people, what's 1:09:13.280 --> 1:09:14.519 the what's the award given out? 1:09:16.160 --> 1:09:21.040 Well, I can't give everyone a million dollars because then, yeah, 1:09:21.040 --> 1:09:24.840 I'll give everyone can have sweethearts ropes, so. 1:09:26.240 --> 1:09:29.160 To give you five ship all right? 1:09:29.800 --> 1:09:30.960 Yeah, yeah, you're right. 1:09:31.000 --> 1:09:31.679 It all comes. 1:09:31.520 --> 1:09:35.679 Backward everyone with the sweetheart ropes. So that way, if 1:09:36.000 --> 1:09:38.040 they eat them, I get five dollars. So the reward 1:09:38.120 --> 1:09:40.840 is also a reward for me. I feel like everyone 1:09:40.840 --> 1:09:41.799 wins in this situation. 1:09:42.360 --> 1:09:42.640 All right. 1:09:42.680 --> 1:09:46.720 This question has been more controversial. Is religion holding mankind back? 1:09:47.880 --> 1:09:48.080 No? 1:09:48.360 --> 1:09:50.800 I think this way. I don't think religion is what's 1:09:50.800 --> 1:09:51.800 holding mankind back. 1:09:51.960 --> 1:09:53.880 Okay, you think we have other problems, that there's so. 1:09:53.800 --> 1:09:55.679 Many more things that are holding mankind back than really. 1:09:58.120 --> 1:09:58.479 Our goal. 1:09:58.560 --> 1:09:59.960 You think religions holding mankind back? 1:10:00.120 --> 1:10:00.400 Yes? 1:10:00.680 --> 1:10:02.960 Why, I think we're just too divided in our religions 1:10:03.720 --> 1:10:05.200 because at the end of the day, people like some 1:10:05.240 --> 1:10:07.559 people accept that, Okay, we're all worshiping the same gods's 1:10:07.600 --> 1:10:10.360 different ways. Yeah, it's just like if we all worship 1:10:10.439 --> 1:10:12.519 the same God in different ways, can we just like 1:10:12.720 --> 1:10:14.439 we don't have to agree on one way to do it, 1:10:14.479 --> 1:10:16.120 but can we just be like, can we just not 1:10:16.280 --> 1:10:17.920 judge other ways that people do it? 1:10:18.040 --> 1:10:20.560 Like it's it's religion. What's holding people? I feel like 1:10:20.640 --> 1:10:22.719 it's like politics are dividing people. 1:10:23.040 --> 1:10:26.519 Politicians politics can be used in religion though, like as 1:10:26.680 --> 1:10:28.120 that's what that's what Trump does. He'd be like, Yo, 1:10:28.160 --> 1:10:29.519 I'm a Christian this or that, and that's how you 1:10:29.520 --> 1:10:30.360 get someone his side. 1:10:30.479 --> 1:10:32.160 Yeah, sure, that makes sense. 1:10:32.640 --> 1:10:36.200 Religion has always been what drives the people. The church 1:10:36.240 --> 1:10:38.400 and the state used to be like different things, or 1:10:38.439 --> 1:10:39.800 they used to be the same. It used to be 1:10:39.800 --> 1:10:40.040 the same. 1:10:40.479 --> 1:10:42.880 Say yeah, right right, that makes sense. That makes sense. 1:10:42.920 --> 1:10:44.880 So we're being honest. 1:10:45.040 --> 1:10:46.439 I don't know what's I don't know if anything is 1:10:46.479 --> 1:10:49.280 holding mankind back. I think mankind is unfolding as it 1:10:49.360 --> 1:10:50.400 was always going to. 1:10:50.680 --> 1:10:53.200 Fair enough, would you rather be in a zombie apocalypse 1:10:53.280 --> 1:10:54.000 or a plan of the apes? 1:10:54.040 --> 1:10:59.519 Takeover? Well? 1:10:59.720 --> 1:11:04.519 Take over? Okay, I'm gonna tell me if this is correct. 1:11:05.040 --> 1:11:07.280 When I think of a planet of the apes takeover, 1:11:08.400 --> 1:11:12.120 the apes have usurped the humans as they're on their 1:11:12.120 --> 1:11:14.519 way to doing it as the as the rulers. 1:11:14.600 --> 1:11:17.560 Right, so we're so so I still exist. 1:11:17.200 --> 1:11:17.720 I still lie. 1:11:17.760 --> 1:11:20.720 But I am a I am second class in the 1:11:20.760 --> 1:11:24.000 way that the dog is am. I. Well, okay, but like, okay, 1:11:24.040 --> 1:11:26.400 let me ask you this. How do the apes treat 1:11:26.400 --> 1:11:29.640 the humans? Are we domesticated? Are we subservient? 1:11:29.720 --> 1:11:29.840 How? 1:11:30.400 --> 1:11:31.280 In the in the movie? 1:11:31.520 --> 1:11:32.599 I don't know. I understand that. 1:11:35.120 --> 1:11:40.880 They treat humans like ship. I'm pretty sure they do. 1:11:40.280 --> 1:11:42.880 They cheated like ship, or they get rid of the humans. 1:11:42.920 --> 1:11:44.960 I think they get rid of the humans. Actually, I 1:11:44.960 --> 1:11:45.840 think I get I'll. 1:11:45.720 --> 1:11:47.839 Take my chance. I'll take my chances in the zombie bocalypse. 1:11:47.920 --> 1:11:50.760 Yeah, the apes really rip your face off in like 1:11:50.760 --> 1:11:51.360 half a second. 1:11:51.439 --> 1:11:54.679 Yeah that sounds horrible. Yeah, well, you got any more questions? 1:11:55.240 --> 1:11:56.760 Let's let me do one more and I'm gonna get 1:11:56.760 --> 1:12:05.280 about it. Is there a fifth next? Is there a 1:12:05.360 --> 1:12:06.160 fifth dimensioned? 1:12:07.520 --> 1:12:07.920 Probably? 1:12:08.120 --> 1:12:08.479 Probably? 1:12:08.560 --> 1:12:08.760 Yeah? 1:12:08.800 --> 1:12:10.559 Probably, I'm too stupid to know what it is? 1:12:12.040 --> 1:12:15.840 Again, Jayden, nice to be okay, rock and roll man, 1:12:15.840 --> 1:12:19.760 I'll see you around the universe of course later, Jayden, what's 1:12:19.840 --> 1:12:20.960 what's your show again? 1:12:22.360 --> 1:12:25.559 My show is j x Y d x N dot sixteen. 1:12:25.560 --> 1:12:26.960 You can find the all platforms. 1:12:27.200 --> 1:12:29.240 Oh yeah, Sick. There's a lot of letters, but we'll 1:12:29.240 --> 1:12:29.840 piece it together. 1:12:29.840 --> 1:12:33.639 It is just Jayden and exos instead of vowels. Okay, Sick, 1:12:34.160 --> 1:12:35.639 you should get it. You should do like, how about 1:12:35.640 --> 1:12:39.760 just the Jayden show. That's easier, fair enough? Okay, Well, 1:12:40.000 --> 1:12:40.479 it's just thing. 1:12:41.000 --> 1:12:43.320 My podcast is called on the Walk. Okay, all right, 1:12:43.360 --> 1:12:45.160 And then the segment I have is that's what I 1:12:45.200 --> 1:12:47.320 was the second right there. Either you ask the question 1:12:47.360 --> 1:12:48.280 or you'd be asked a question. 1:12:48.400 --> 1:12:50.080 Okay, all right, Well this is all going on there. 1:12:50.920 --> 1:12:58.240 Sweet see you, jaydon see around the universe? Do you 1:12:58.280 --> 1:13:03.280 want to talk to a gecko about life? Have a seat? 1:13:03.360 --> 1:13:07.000 Have a seat. What's your name, sir? I'm Lou, Lou. 1:13:07.680 --> 1:13:08.160 What's up? 1:13:08.479 --> 1:13:09.000 Where are you from? 1:13:09.080 --> 1:13:09.280 Lou? 1:13:10.040 --> 1:13:10.639 From right here? 1:13:10.920 --> 1:13:11.519 Rock and roll? 1:13:11.720 --> 1:13:12.320 Yeah? 1:13:12.439 --> 1:13:12.719 Where? 1:13:12.880 --> 1:13:13.800 How long you been in New York? 1:13:13.840 --> 1:13:13.920 For? 1:13:14.560 --> 1:13:17.639 Well, uh, but most of my life right over there 1:13:17.880 --> 1:13:18.599 that corner? 1:13:19.240 --> 1:13:19.599 Really? 1:13:19.840 --> 1:13:22.640 Yeah, you for your most of your life, you've been 1:13:22.720 --> 1:13:23.799 right over there in that corn. 1:13:23.680 --> 1:13:25.719 Right over in that corner of the park. 1:13:25.880 --> 1:13:30.920 And uh, how how has the park changed over your life? 1:13:31.200 --> 1:13:31.360 Uh? 1:13:32.680 --> 1:13:37.280 Well, you know, it went from totally fucking batshit bohemian, 1:13:38.240 --> 1:13:43.479 uh to super like safe and now batshit bohemian again. 1:13:44.360 --> 1:13:44.600 You know. 1:13:45.280 --> 1:13:47.760 I mean I genuinely because I love I love this place, man, 1:13:47.800 --> 1:13:50.519 really like I love this fucking park, and I'm very 1:13:50.520 --> 1:13:54.640 curious about like, so when did it become safe and 1:13:54.680 --> 1:13:56.599 then when did it become bohemian again? 1:13:56.840 --> 1:14:01.080 Well, they close sections off of it, uh, to remodel 1:14:01.120 --> 1:14:05.759 everything and redo everything, and and it was safe after 1:14:05.800 --> 1:14:10.640 that for a while, and they were cracking down on 1:14:10.680 --> 1:14:14.000 people riding bikes and all that and smoking pot or 1:14:14.040 --> 1:14:18.720 selling pot. And then just recently, you know, there was 1:14:18.800 --> 1:14:23.840 like a stabbing over here, and and now since the 1:14:23.880 --> 1:14:28.519 whole legalization of weed, it's, uh, it's just turned into 1:14:28.600 --> 1:14:33.040 like a just like a bohemian free for all, which 1:14:33.080 --> 1:14:37.040 I think is good, except for the stabbings and uh, 1:14:37.200 --> 1:14:41.200 you know the uh, the needlework going on over here. 1:14:41.280 --> 1:14:44.800 And by needlework, I don't mean crocheting. 1:14:44.120 --> 1:14:49.040 Or anything, I mean stabbing, I mean needlework, you know. 1:14:52.080 --> 1:14:54.240 So that's why you see the cops over here on 1:14:54.280 --> 1:14:55.360 this corner, you know. 1:14:57.400 --> 1:14:59.760 So yeah, but you know New York City. What are 1:14:59.760 --> 1:15:00.120 you gonna do? 1:15:00.800 --> 1:15:03.360 You know, you stamp it out in one corner, it's 1:15:03.360 --> 1:15:04.799 gonna come up back on the other. 1:15:04.640 --> 1:15:05.400 Corner, you know. 1:15:06.880 --> 1:15:09.960 Interesting. So, like since the legalization of pot, you feel 1:15:09.960 --> 1:15:12.439 like this place has gotten more bohemian. 1:15:13.320 --> 1:15:16.360 Yeah, more free for all, more bohemian. But also at 1:15:16.360 --> 1:15:20.000 the same time, you know, I don't. 1:15:19.880 --> 1:15:24.639 Feel like it's like as dangerous as it was before 1:15:24.680 --> 1:15:25.920 when it was like illegal. 1:15:26.479 --> 1:15:28.800 So what's your what's your role in all this? 1:15:28.880 --> 1:15:29.080 Man? 1:15:29.080 --> 1:15:32.760 What do you where do you where? Do you fit 1:15:32.840 --> 1:15:33.519 into the park? 1:15:34.400 --> 1:15:36.240 Do you feel I fit into the park? 1:15:36.280 --> 1:15:41.080 And then I just love to come here and and 1:15:41.520 --> 1:15:48.280 uh just take in you know, the diversity, the you know, 1:15:48.439 --> 1:15:49.519 the city life. 1:15:49.840 --> 1:15:51.080 I mean, you're not gonna. 1:15:50.800 --> 1:15:54.240 Get this in any you know, in on the continent, 1:15:54.400 --> 1:15:56.479 as I like to call it, over on the other 1:15:56.520 --> 1:15:58.800 side of the Jersey of that river over there. 1:15:58.840 --> 1:16:01.840 You know, it's you know, everything is here. 1:16:01.960 --> 1:16:05.400 This is kind of like the crossroads of the world really, 1:16:05.520 --> 1:16:08.719 you know, man, you know, even more so than than 1:16:09.439 --> 1:16:16.920 than then Times Square, you know, I mean it's the 1:16:16.960 --> 1:16:18.640 Times Square of the village, you know. 1:16:18.800 --> 1:16:20.040 And and if. 1:16:19.920 --> 1:16:25.080 If if New York is the the center of the world, 1:16:25.400 --> 1:16:29.240 then the village is the heart of it, you know, 1:16:30.280 --> 1:16:32.679 and we're at the heart of it. 1:16:32.800 --> 1:16:33.040 You know. 1:16:33.400 --> 1:16:37.080 And and yeah, Times Square, Yeah that's the crossroads of 1:16:37.120 --> 1:16:41.240 the world. But you know that's that's like the pizza 1:16:41.280 --> 1:16:44.160 Hut McDonald's cross roads of the world. 1:16:44.520 --> 1:16:45.840 This is where it's at. 1:16:46.479 --> 1:16:46.719 Dude. 1:16:47.120 --> 1:16:49.599 It is like interesting to hear that they were once 1:16:49.680 --> 1:16:52.640 like cracking down on stuff, because it seems to me like, 1:16:52.720 --> 1:16:55.800 I mean, nobody in this park has a permit to 1:16:55.800 --> 1:16:57.000 be doing anything that they're doing. 1:16:56.920 --> 1:16:59.800 Right, No, And I do this. 1:17:00.160 --> 1:17:02.200 I do this all over the place, and and I 1:17:02.240 --> 1:17:05.360 get kicked out everywhere all all the time. I have 1:17:05.400 --> 1:17:07.960 to be on alert. Well you know, I've never got 1:17:07.960 --> 1:17:08.800 I never get kicked out. 1:17:09.000 --> 1:17:14.240 Yeah, because you're green, stand out, you know. And yeah 1:17:14.360 --> 1:17:15.919 and uh yeah. 1:17:15.800 --> 1:17:19.559 You stand out and but yeah, but but you know, 1:17:19.640 --> 1:17:22.360 but this was like this is the center. This is 1:17:22.400 --> 1:17:26.800 the heart of the of the counter culture in you know, 1:17:27.920 --> 1:17:30.320 in this country, in the city, in the world. 1:17:30.760 --> 1:17:32.479 This part is where it all happened. 1:17:33.240 --> 1:17:33.400 You know. 1:17:33.680 --> 1:17:39.280 This is where where everybody like rebelled against the establishment. 1:17:39.840 --> 1:17:42.840 You know, there is where people like actually they say 1:17:42.880 --> 1:17:45.280 they burnt their bras here, but I don't think anybody 1:17:45.280 --> 1:17:47.960 burnt their bras, they just threw them out, you know. 1:17:49.160 --> 1:17:55.360 And this is where gay life UH took center stage 1:17:55.600 --> 1:18:03.240 in in in in demanding independent thens, demanding freedom, demanding 1:18:03.840 --> 1:18:07.160 to be to just be, you know, and not just 1:18:07.280 --> 1:18:11.880 gay life, not just women's rights, but like we got 1:18:12.640 --> 1:18:16.160 people even now. You know, there's a center of like 1:18:16.680 --> 1:18:19.960 Palestinian rights. 1:18:18.920 --> 1:18:22.280 Of you know, and also Israeli rights. 1:18:22.600 --> 1:18:25.400 You know, always a protest. 1:18:26.479 --> 1:18:28.559 This is where it comes. It will start at Union 1:18:28.560 --> 1:18:30.640 Square and come here. It will start here, go to 1:18:30.760 --> 1:18:31.400 Union Square. 1:18:32.000 --> 1:18:32.280 You know. 1:18:32.640 --> 1:18:39.120 The two epicenters of the two nexus of like of UH, 1:18:39.520 --> 1:18:43.559 of of just protests and of demanding rights are are 1:18:43.600 --> 1:18:46.320 here in Washington Square Park, Union Square. 1:18:46.680 --> 1:18:49.519 I feel privileged to to like to be here. I 1:18:49.560 --> 1:18:53.160 feel privileged to UH to witness what goes on here. 1:18:53.439 --> 1:18:55.519 I feel privileged to just live here. 1:18:56.240 --> 1:19:00.599 And I I know the cultural significance of this this. 1:19:00.560 --> 1:19:03.559 Location, yea, and I appreciate it, you know. 1:19:03.920 --> 1:19:06.840 And what sometimes I don't like it, but you know what, 1:19:07.320 --> 1:19:09.519 there's other people that don't like what I you know, 1:19:10.040 --> 1:19:13.679 you know, what goes on here, it's like it's always 1:19:13.920 --> 1:19:16.519 but this is the nexus of it all, you know, 1:19:16.640 --> 1:19:20.519 and from here it radiates out into the entire country. 1:19:20.720 --> 1:19:23.599 Mmm, I I you know, I like that, man, because 1:19:23.640 --> 1:19:26.920 I feel very like privileged and lucky to like get 1:19:26.960 --> 1:19:29.599 to do this here, Like I really, you know, I've 1:19:29.640 --> 1:19:31.920 gotten to do like these these streaming reviews and stuff 1:19:31.920 --> 1:19:34.080 like all over the place. But I just this, like 1:19:34.160 --> 1:19:36.080 I don't know, man, this park is like it's nothing 1:19:36.160 --> 1:19:39.120 like it anytime anytime I'm like feeling dude, anytime I'm 1:19:39.120 --> 1:19:41.960 feeling like depressed or I'm like, oh my life is 1:19:42.000 --> 1:19:44.000 over or whatever, because you know what, it's so beautiful 1:19:44.040 --> 1:19:44.599 about this party. 1:19:44.640 --> 1:19:45.439 It makes me feel so good. 1:19:45.520 --> 1:19:50.320 Is like every time I come here, I'm like, first 1:19:50.320 --> 1:19:53.679 of all, I see all different people of all different 1:19:53.720 --> 1:19:59.240 ages and all different but like exactly Kevin doing different things, 1:19:59.720 --> 1:20:00.519 and it's like. 1:20:00.640 --> 1:20:03.720 And just coming through or staying for a while or 1:20:03.840 --> 1:20:05.599 like you know, but this is it. 1:20:05.600 --> 1:20:07.320 It always makes me feel like alive again. 1:20:07.360 --> 1:20:09.519 You know, you're not going to find another place like 1:20:09.600 --> 1:20:13.479 this in this country. Maybe in Berlin, you know there's 1:20:13.680 --> 1:20:17.240 places like this in Berlin, but in this country, no, 1:20:17.880 --> 1:20:19.040 you know, this is it. 1:20:19.200 --> 1:20:23.400 I'm genuinely like curious, and I'm curious what you think about, Like, 1:20:23.800 --> 1:20:28.559 how is this vibe so well maintained. How is it 1:20:28.600 --> 1:20:32.120 that there are so many different people like how how 1:20:32.200 --> 1:20:35.360 it's like it's almost like this the the census is 1:20:35.400 --> 1:20:37.200 just naturally here a huge. 1:20:37.120 --> 1:20:41.960 Respect, you know what I mean, and everybody uh uh 1:20:42.200 --> 1:20:46.760 you appreciates the diversity of this place, you know. And 1:20:46.760 --> 1:20:54.439 and this is the really what this country is is 1:20:54.479 --> 1:20:58.080 all about, totally is about this place right here. It's 1:20:58.080 --> 1:21:01.840 about everybody coming to other no matter what, you know, 1:21:01.920 --> 1:21:04.120 if you smoke pot, if you don't smoke pot, if 1:21:04.160 --> 1:21:08.200 you you know, there's artists here, there's intellectuals here. 1:21:08.520 --> 1:21:10.679 We're right here at the center of one of. 1:21:10.600 --> 1:21:17.519 The uh the premiere intellectual you know, uh establishments of 1:21:17.560 --> 1:21:18.160 this country. 1:21:18.200 --> 1:21:21.680 And yu, yeah, you know, so you have all of that. 1:21:22.400 --> 1:21:27.280 You have the bohemians, you have the artists, you have 1:21:27.600 --> 1:21:30.759 the people shooting drugs over in that corner over there, 1:21:31.400 --> 1:21:34.760 you know, and well, you know, they're trying to get 1:21:34.760 --> 1:21:36.960 a hold of that, and I think they got they 1:21:37.200 --> 1:21:40.439 you know, I think the NYPD is doing a fairly 1:21:40.479 --> 1:21:42.840 decent job about it right now. I mean, there hasn't 1:21:42.840 --> 1:21:50.839 been major incidents but lately, and and I think everyone 1:21:50.920 --> 1:21:55.840 comes here knowing that they're going to find everything here. 1:21:56.320 --> 1:22:02.439 Even if it doesn't jibe with there what their global 1:22:02.560 --> 1:22:03.280 view is. 1:22:03.800 --> 1:22:07.080 Everyone comes here with that Okay, we come here with 1:22:07.120 --> 1:22:12.840 that mutual respect, okay, and and so, But unfortunately once 1:22:12.880 --> 1:22:16.920 they leave here, the mutual respect kind of goes out 1:22:16.920 --> 1:22:20.320 the window. But once you're here in Washington Square Park, 1:22:21.160 --> 1:22:26.680 you know, it's it's kind of like a neutral. 1:22:26.320 --> 1:22:29.320 Zone, you know, a neutral zone. 1:22:29.120 --> 1:22:32.920 For for for all the als of our society, of 1:22:32.960 --> 1:22:39.720 our world, you know, and and and everyone comes here 1:22:39.760 --> 1:22:46.800 to gawk at the other side of their worldview and 1:22:46.800 --> 1:22:49.599 and just be in all of it, or be in 1:22:50.000 --> 1:22:54.519 like or or or just be surprised at it or whatever. 1:22:55.080 --> 1:22:58.439 But like, you know what, you're in neutral territory here. 1:22:59.400 --> 1:23:02.640 You know, you're you're like, it's it's kind of like 1:23:03.080 --> 1:23:07.240 it's the United Nations here, you know, without the without 1:23:07.280 --> 1:23:08.960 the stuffiness of diplomacy. 1:23:10.840 --> 1:23:11.480 Yeah. 1:23:11.560 --> 1:23:12.120 I love that. 1:23:12.160 --> 1:23:14.559 It's the United Nations here without the stuffiness of the 1:23:14.560 --> 1:23:16.960 diplomacy and the bureaucracy. 1:23:16.400 --> 1:23:22.400 And the bureaucracy exactly and uh and the and uh 1:23:22.520 --> 1:23:26.880 what what's the word I'm looking for? The the pompous. 1:23:27.040 --> 1:23:29.080 Yeah, yeah, it's so interesting. 1:23:29.080 --> 1:23:31.479 I just you know, I'm just again like I'm in 1:23:31.560 --> 1:23:33.400 so awe of every time I come here, like there's 1:23:33.439 --> 1:23:35.679 such a vibe that's always so just. 1:23:35.840 --> 1:23:39.320 Naturally present and naturally curated. 1:23:39.880 --> 1:23:40.480 Yeah. 1:23:41.000 --> 1:23:43.960 Yeah, you know, people know, people come here knowing that 1:23:44.040 --> 1:23:49.120 they're gonna come and see pretty much every other slice 1:23:49.160 --> 1:23:50.160 of humanity here. 1:23:50.240 --> 1:23:53.680 Yeah, you know, so can I ask you? I'm what 1:23:53.680 --> 1:23:53.880 do you? 1:23:53.920 --> 1:23:54.240 What do you? 1:23:54.280 --> 1:23:54.840 What do you do? 1:23:54.840 --> 1:23:57.280 Do you make art of some kinder. 1:23:57.320 --> 1:24:02.080 Yeah, I dabble in arts of various kinds, yoga instructor. 1:24:02.200 --> 1:24:07.400 I'm an academic, I'm a bohemian. 1:24:07.840 --> 1:24:09.480 I I am a partier. 1:24:09.880 --> 1:24:16.240 I'm I'm everything that this place you know, encapsulates. 1:24:16.320 --> 1:24:18.559 Bro, tell me, tell me, tell me everything. Where do you? 1:24:18.560 --> 1:24:18.840 What do you? 1:24:18.840 --> 1:24:19.439 What do you teach? 1:24:21.479 --> 1:24:21.679 Well? 1:24:21.760 --> 1:24:24.840 I taught yoga for many years, but before yoga and 1:24:24.880 --> 1:24:29.760 before pilates and before aqua aerobics and before like you know, uh, 1:24:30.560 --> 1:24:35.240 body awareness and emotional awareness, I taught geography at a 1:24:35.320 --> 1:24:41.360 local college here. And so I'm a teacher, you know, 1:24:41.560 --> 1:24:47.240 at heart, because of I because I had great teachers. 1:24:47.439 --> 1:24:49.760 Yeah, you know, every teacher. 1:24:49.439 --> 1:24:54.519 That I've had from kindergarten to uh graduate school, I've 1:24:54.560 --> 1:24:57.720 admired and uh and I wanted to just fill that 1:24:57.880 --> 1:25:00.840 role and and wanted to be that. You know, I 1:25:01.000 --> 1:25:04.240 wanted to be what those people were for me. I 1:25:04.240 --> 1:25:06.800 wanted to be that for other people. I wanted to 1:25:06.920 --> 1:25:09.880 enlighten people. I wanted to wake people up. I wanted 1:25:09.920 --> 1:25:15.120 to just like, yeah, make them more aware of their environment, 1:25:15.200 --> 1:25:21.720 more aware of themselves. And so I did that in academia, 1:25:22.000 --> 1:25:28.600 and then I did that through yoga and through physical fitness, 1:25:29.520 --> 1:25:32.639 and uh, yeah, that's you know what I've been doing. 1:25:33.720 --> 1:25:35.800 I haven't been doing any of that lately because I'm 1:25:35.840 --> 1:25:38.280 taking care of my mother. You know, I've been taking 1:25:38.280 --> 1:25:41.400 care of my mother and that's another role that I've 1:25:41.400 --> 1:25:43.599 had to just kind of fall into and I've had 1:25:43.640 --> 1:25:47.439 to love and. 1:25:46.200 --> 1:25:50.400 Had to be thankful for that. It's made me a 1:25:50.439 --> 1:25:52.519 better person. Yeah, and. 1:25:55.120 --> 1:26:00.280 You know, yeah, next question. 1:26:00.880 --> 1:26:01.840 Does your mom live here? 1:26:02.240 --> 1:26:03.360 No, she's out of state. 1:26:03.760 --> 1:26:05.760 Okay, so have you've been spending a lot of time 1:26:05.760 --> 1:26:06.240 out of state? 1:26:06.680 --> 1:26:08.960 In and out, you know, back and forth. 1:26:10.439 --> 1:26:15.960 She's better now though, so I don't hear that. Yeah, 1:26:16.840 --> 1:26:21.840 but yeah, you know, I went to UH. 1:26:20.600 --> 1:26:21.639 You know, four years ago. 1:26:21.680 --> 1:26:24.320 I went back to UH to where she is at 1:26:24.400 --> 1:26:27.439 to say goodbye because she was done, you know, two 1:26:27.479 --> 1:26:30.439 weeks to live. And then I went back, and all 1:26:30.439 --> 1:26:32.720 of a sudden, she started coming back to life. 1:26:32.880 --> 1:26:35.559 Her kidneys came back, her liver came back, you know. 1:26:35.720 --> 1:26:37.960 But I still had to like take care of her, 1:26:38.320 --> 1:26:44.400 you know, changing diapers, you know, feeding, literally carrying her 1:26:44.520 --> 1:26:48.120 to the toilet, carrying her back, changing the diapers, changing 1:26:48.160 --> 1:26:51.960 the bed. And then little by little, like her, her 1:26:52.040 --> 1:26:55.240 kidneys came back, her liver came back, and now she can. 1:26:55.120 --> 1:26:57.320 Do that on her own, you know. 1:26:57.680 --> 1:27:01.400 I mean, and I like to think that I had 1:27:01.400 --> 1:27:04.920 something to do with that. You know, her son went 1:27:04.960 --> 1:27:06.680 back to take care of her, and that gave her 1:27:06.720 --> 1:27:10.360 some more life, some more reason to live. And and 1:27:10.400 --> 1:27:12.360 it gave me more reason to live. 1:27:12.600 --> 1:27:12.800 You know. 1:27:12.880 --> 1:27:15.880 It gave me a purpose, you know, and it gave 1:27:15.960 --> 1:27:20.639 me Yeah, it just gave me a validity as far 1:27:20.760 --> 1:27:21.360 as uh. 1:27:22.680 --> 1:27:24.800 You know, like as a human being. 1:27:25.680 --> 1:27:27.559 You know, I know what it's like to take care 1:27:27.560 --> 1:27:31.200 of a human being in distress and at that point 1:27:31.600 --> 1:27:36.000 where they're about to perish, and to see them come 1:27:36.040 --> 1:27:45.240 back like that, yeah, you know, it just it just. 1:27:45.200 --> 1:27:51.200 Goes to show that compassion is healing, you know. 1:27:52.520 --> 1:28:03.280 And and if you wipe someone's ass, you know, there's 1:28:03.400 --> 1:28:06.400 a higher power or there's a power within them. There's 1:28:06.479 --> 1:28:10.880 whatever you know, they see that you know, if that 1:28:11.080 --> 1:28:18.040 you know, it's yeah, it's hard to put in words, 1:28:18.600 --> 1:28:20.479 you know, it's hard. 1:28:20.320 --> 1:28:25.600 To put in words that you know what it does. 1:28:27.520 --> 1:28:30.960 To yourself when you can find yourself in the position 1:28:31.120 --> 1:28:34.840 to be able to wipe someone's ass, someone's diaper, you know, 1:28:35.520 --> 1:28:38.639 and then for them, the one that you're doing that for, 1:28:39.479 --> 1:28:47.080 it gives them, like, you know, like a sense like 1:28:47.160 --> 1:28:50.320 they're still human, you know what I mean, they're not forgotten, 1:28:50.960 --> 1:28:53.400 and that gives them like a validation. 1:28:53.640 --> 1:28:55.559 When you're taking care of someone, there's almost like a 1:28:55.920 --> 1:28:57.920 I assume you feel a sort of like. 1:28:58.840 --> 1:28:59.839 And it makes the connections. 1:29:00.720 --> 1:29:03.320 I mean, like you kind of get back in what 1:29:03.479 --> 1:29:05.800 you put. You get back what you put in. 1:29:06.400 --> 1:29:09.120 You know, I think I got back what I put 1:29:09.160 --> 1:29:12.479 in because my mother is no longer. 1:29:12.600 --> 1:29:15.320 At death's doorstep. Yeah, you know. 1:29:16.200 --> 1:29:18.320 And do you have a Do you have siblings that 1:29:18.400 --> 1:29:19.640 were like helping you out at all? 1:29:19.760 --> 1:29:19.920 Yeah? 1:29:19.920 --> 1:29:21.920 I have siblings. No, they were not helping. 1:29:24.479 --> 1:29:28.479 They helped financially, but but no, they never changed the diaper. 1:29:29.040 --> 1:29:31.439 They were not there twenty four seven, Like I was, 1:29:31.720 --> 1:29:33.680 you know what I mean, I was there twenty four 1:29:33.720 --> 1:29:36.599 to seven. I couldn't sleep because I was sleeping next 1:29:36.640 --> 1:29:40.920 her while she was suffering. And during the day, I 1:29:40.960 --> 1:29:45.160 couldn't sleep because people were there visiting. So you know, 1:29:45.320 --> 1:29:48.000 for like a year and a half, I did not 1:29:48.040 --> 1:29:52.960 get any sleep at all, you know. And and I'm 1:29:52.960 --> 1:29:53.880 glad I did it. 1:29:54.680 --> 1:29:54.920 You know. 1:29:55.520 --> 1:29:59.519 It wore me out, it aged me, but it aged 1:29:59.560 --> 1:30:02.800 me like a fine cheese, you know what I mean, 1:30:03.400 --> 1:30:05.639 age my spirit like a fine cheese. 1:30:05.760 --> 1:30:07.320 Now, you know what I mean. 1:30:07.320 --> 1:30:12.920 Like I am, my spirit is worth more now than 1:30:12.960 --> 1:30:15.519 it was when I went into that cave. 1:30:15.920 --> 1:30:19.719 How do you how do you feel day to day? 1:30:20.120 --> 1:30:23.519 I feel minute to minute. I can't do day to day. 1:30:23.600 --> 1:30:26.600 I have to do minute to minute, you know. 1:30:29.240 --> 1:30:33.040 And and I have to stay minute to minute, you know. 1:30:33.439 --> 1:30:34.840 The key to like. 1:30:36.600 --> 1:30:39.720 To sanity is to be in the moment and not 1:30:39.800 --> 1:30:41.720 in the past, not in the present, you know, not 1:30:41.840 --> 1:30:44.800 in the future, but in in the now, you know, 1:30:44.960 --> 1:30:45.559 And I have to. 1:30:45.960 --> 1:30:47.880 It's taught me to be more. 1:30:49.680 --> 1:30:55.360 More cognizant of that of of you know, am I 1:30:55.520 --> 1:30:59.280 being ruled by the past or the anxiety of the future, 1:30:59.640 --> 1:31:03.640 or am I not allowing myself to be in the 1:31:03.840 --> 1:31:07.920 joy of the present moment? You know, and right now, 1:31:08.080 --> 1:31:10.519 this is joy. We've got a beautiful day right now. 1:31:10.680 --> 1:31:13.360 You know, like, look at all these people, Look at 1:31:13.400 --> 1:31:15.519 all these artists, look at all these people. 1:31:15.320 --> 1:31:19.360 From all over the fucking world. You know, I'm so blessed. 1:31:19.920 --> 1:31:22.800 I'm so blessed to be here, you know, to be 1:31:23.040 --> 1:31:26.360 in the nexus the heart of New York, you know 1:31:26.640 --> 1:31:31.360 which is you know, the heart of New York is 1:31:31.400 --> 1:31:33.840 not Times Square, It's right here in the village. 1:31:34.560 --> 1:31:36.000 It's right where we're at right now. 1:31:37.200 --> 1:31:41.479 You know, the Times Square is like yeah, McDonald's and 1:31:41.720 --> 1:31:47.880 Sabarro's Pizza and whatever. You know, it's like that's just 1:31:47.920 --> 1:31:51.320 like marketing, that's capitalism. That's like, that's not what we 1:31:51.360 --> 1:31:52.400 want as a society. 1:31:52.600 --> 1:31:54.960 So I wanted to ask you when I was asking 1:31:55.040 --> 1:31:57.240 you about like kind of your life and you were 1:31:57.360 --> 1:31:59.360 kind of telling me these things you identify with you 1:31:59.360 --> 1:32:02.120 you mentioned that you were a bohemian. What does that 1:32:02.160 --> 1:32:03.680 mean to you to be a bohemian? 1:32:05.520 --> 1:32:11.200 So be a bohemian means that, you know, you don't 1:32:11.240 --> 1:32:18.280 subscribe to the societal demands of you know, what you 1:32:18.360 --> 1:32:23.679 need to acquire to be accepted, you know, like fuck 1:32:24.040 --> 1:32:26.679 your skis, fuck your cars, fuck. 1:32:26.600 --> 1:32:29.120 Like you know, you need to have this. You need 1:32:29.160 --> 1:32:31.240 to have that. You know, you need to be in 1:32:31.280 --> 1:32:33.320 the present moment. You need to be you need to 1:32:33.479 --> 1:32:35.160 cherish the people. 1:32:34.840 --> 1:32:37.960 Around you, you know, and you need to have people 1:32:38.000 --> 1:32:41.760 around you that cherish you. And that's what's important. It's 1:32:41.800 --> 1:32:44.920 not what. It's not what you have. You know, it's 1:32:44.960 --> 1:32:50.760 not where you live, it's not where you know, it's 1:32:50.800 --> 1:32:53.320 not material at all. You know, that's what you know. 1:32:54.240 --> 1:33:01.680 And and also you know it's about like seeing beyond borders, 1:33:01.720 --> 1:33:03.680 seen beyond nationalities. 1:33:04.479 --> 1:33:07.479 You know, nationalism is. 1:33:07.520 --> 1:33:13.840 Completely you know, totally detrimental to humanity. You know, we 1:33:14.680 --> 1:33:20.160 got to stop like us versus them mentality. Sure, you know, 1:33:20.360 --> 1:33:23.000 we have to just be all here, you know, just 1:33:23.040 --> 1:33:25.479 like we're all here at Washington Square Park. We're all 1:33:25.520 --> 1:33:28.719 here right now, and there's no one fighting here. There's 1:33:28.760 --> 1:33:32.240 no MK twenty, you know, there's no like machine guns 1:33:32.280 --> 1:33:36.439 going off here. But yet there's Muslims here, there's Jewish 1:33:36.479 --> 1:33:40.920 people here, there's Mexicans here. You know, everybody is right here, 1:33:41.160 --> 1:33:42.959 and look at this harmony that's going. 1:33:42.760 --> 1:33:43.479 On right now. 1:33:43.920 --> 1:33:46.960 You know, there's people that are like, you know, like 1:33:47.080 --> 1:33:50.920 smoking pop. There's people that are anti pop. But like 1:33:51.760 --> 1:33:56.599 everybody is enjoying this beautiful day. Everybody is enjoying each other. 1:33:56.680 --> 1:34:02.000 Everybody is enjoying gawking at each other, you know, without 1:34:02.120 --> 1:34:06.040 the you know, I don't know, maybe it's me without 1:34:06.040 --> 1:34:06.599 the judgment. 1:34:06.680 --> 1:34:08.520 Yeah, maybe people are judging. 1:34:08.160 --> 1:34:11.920 But you know what, but but people are at least 1:34:12.200 --> 1:34:14.280 letting each other be here. 1:34:14.400 --> 1:34:15.759 Even the judgers are welcome. 1:34:16.400 --> 1:34:20.200 Even the judges are welcome, and they're amazed at how 1:34:21.720 --> 1:34:26.240 well a judgment. You know, how a society can can 1:34:26.320 --> 1:34:30.280 function so well here, you know, there there there seems 1:34:30.320 --> 1:34:31.639 to be no rules here. 1:34:32.000 --> 1:34:34.920 And look look at this place. There's no rules. 1:34:34.560 --> 1:34:37.639 Here, and yet anyone like dying here. 1:34:38.160 --> 1:34:43.160 No, everybody is enjoying themselves here. You know, there's not 1:34:43.400 --> 1:34:47.639 there's no one like suffering here. But there's people from. 1:34:47.439 --> 1:34:49.680 All over the world here. There's people from all all 1:34:49.720 --> 1:34:50.519 walks of life. 1:34:50.560 --> 1:34:54.439 There's like Republicans and Democrats, there's like but they all 1:34:54.479 --> 1:34:57.120 come here and they gawk at each other and they 1:34:57.520 --> 1:34:59.560 and and there's a mutual respect. 1:35:00.080 --> 1:35:03.880 Know, yeah, are you still at where do you? 1:35:03.920 --> 1:35:07.000 Where do you teach yoga? And everything? You have to 1:35:07.000 --> 1:35:10.160 talk to yourself? You don't want to, but I don't. 1:35:09.960 --> 1:35:12.800 Want to know I don't want to say where, but 1:35:15.560 --> 1:35:22.120 you know, family obligations have kept me from committing to anyone. 1:35:22.400 --> 1:35:26.639 Josh. Also, I'm older than I look, so. 1:35:28.280 --> 1:35:31.880 You know, I retired basically. 1:35:31.920 --> 1:35:34.960 Sure, Sure, so you look older than I look. 1:35:35.160 --> 1:35:38.800 I'm younger than I look young younger than I look, 1:35:39.000 --> 1:35:44.160 younger than I look. So I'm not working, you know. 1:35:44.560 --> 1:35:49.800 And but but I'm still working. I'm still working in 1:35:49.800 --> 1:35:50.440 the community. 1:35:51.320 --> 1:35:54.960 Cool, I'm still working on myself. And that never ends, 1:35:55.840 --> 1:35:59.439 you know, so long as that never ends, you know. 1:35:59.800 --> 1:36:01.919 Just trying to accept that that never ends. 1:36:02.320 --> 1:36:03.000 Yeah, I really don't. 1:36:03.040 --> 1:36:06.320 I'm I'm only uh, I don't know. I I I'd 1:36:06.439 --> 1:36:08.400 like it to end at some point, but I know 1:36:08.439 --> 1:36:10.720 it's never gonna end. You're always gonna want things, and 1:36:10.720 --> 1:36:13.320 you're always gonna Dude, my dad I was. I was 1:36:13.320 --> 1:36:15.720 hanging out with my dad and he pulled out this 1:36:15.800 --> 1:36:18.040 like notes app list of all these projects he wants 1:36:18.080 --> 1:36:19.400 to do and all these things he wants to do. 1:36:19.960 --> 1:36:21.840 And I'm like, oh, crowd, it's gonna be me when 1:36:21.840 --> 1:36:27.439 I'm sixty six, you know, and he's I'm like, you know, 1:36:27.560 --> 1:36:30.640 it seems like it's just being ambitious for a whole lifetime. 1:36:31.040 --> 1:36:33.720 It seems like it seems exhausting sometimes, you know. 1:36:33.920 --> 1:36:38.320 Well, you know, part of part of like ending anxiety, ending, 1:36:40.120 --> 1:36:42.640 you know, angst and all that is knowing that it 1:36:42.760 --> 1:36:46.040 is gonna end, right, you know, that ultimate end of 1:36:46.080 --> 1:36:53.080 it all, you know, and yeah, it will end. But 1:36:53.080 --> 1:36:55.559 but we just have to be like where we're at 1:36:55.640 --> 1:36:57.280 right now, you know. 1:37:00.880 --> 1:37:03.040 Yeah, I forgot how we got to like it's not 1:37:03.160 --> 1:37:03.960 ever gonna end. 1:37:04.479 --> 1:37:06.680 Uh, yeah, we're just having a conversation. 1:37:06.800 --> 1:37:10.519 What's your name again? Man, Lou Lou Lou. Thanks for 1:37:11.600 --> 1:37:16.800 thanks for extending your city bike my this is on uh, 1:37:16.840 --> 1:37:17.439 it's on YouTube. 1:37:17.439 --> 1:37:19.479 I do it as a podcast. I do it on YouTube. 1:37:20.439 --> 1:37:20.920 I can, I can. 1:37:20.960 --> 1:37:23.000 I can give you the info if you want. 1:37:23.320 --> 1:37:27.240 Yeah, yeah, okay, good, all right. Well, you know you 1:37:27.360 --> 1:37:28.960 drew me into a conversation. 1:37:29.240 --> 1:37:31.599 Thanks for thanks for letting me draw you into it. 1:37:31.680 --> 1:37:34.880 I really do, I really appreciate the perspective man, because yeah, 1:37:34.920 --> 1:37:36.360 it's cool to hear a little bit about like the 1:37:36.360 --> 1:37:38.160 evolution of the park, because I really I do love 1:37:38.160 --> 1:37:38.880 this fucking place. 1:37:39.320 --> 1:37:40.759 You know, it's cool to hear out evolved. 1:37:40.760 --> 1:37:43.760 Well, this park has had a lot of evolutions, you know. 1:37:43.960 --> 1:37:47.400 I mean, you know that you know Washington like March's 1:37:47.520 --> 1:37:51.120 troops up in here, and you know there was a. 1:37:53.439 --> 1:37:55.759 Like slave burial ground for a while. 1:37:56.200 --> 1:37:59.679 Some skeletons were found up here on on the east side, 1:38:00.200 --> 1:38:02.360 uh during construction. 1:38:02.640 --> 1:38:04.800 So you know, I also I do. 1:38:04.880 --> 1:38:08.000 I love the quote on the top of the arch, 1:38:08.840 --> 1:38:10.960 the the let us raise a standard to which the 1:38:10.960 --> 1:38:12.280 wise and honest can repair. 1:38:12.680 --> 1:38:14.240 The event is in the hand of God. 1:38:14.800 --> 1:38:19.440 It's very like, it's very like, look, she's gonna go down. 1:38:20.000 --> 1:38:21.760 That's all in the hands of God. But like we'll 1:38:21.760 --> 1:38:23.599 be it's within our ability to at. 1:38:23.600 --> 1:38:24.280 Least repair it. 1:38:24.320 --> 1:38:27.519 And ship has gone down at this part, you know, 1:38:27.960 --> 1:38:31.120 but but it seems to always rise up. 1:38:31.920 --> 1:38:35.960 You know. Yeah, we're at the nexus of it all. 1:38:37.160 --> 1:38:38.439 Thank you so much, Thank you. 1:38:38.479 --> 1:38:40.320 So much for chatting with me. I appreciate it, man. 1:38:42.920 --> 1:38:45.559 I don't I don't think anything in this would come 1:38:45.560 --> 1:38:51.920 back to haunt you, Dear God. Alright, all right, take 1:38:51.960 --> 1:38:54.280 care of you. Nice to meet you. That was a 1:38:54.280 --> 1:38:54.920 great interview. 1:38:54.960 --> 1:38:55.519 That was awesome. 1:38:55.560 --> 1:38:57.280 It was cool to get to talk to somebody who 1:38:58.360 --> 1:39:01.479 has uh been here for a while. And you know, 1:39:01.640 --> 1:39:05.240 he really did verbalize everything that I love about this 1:39:05.320 --> 1:39:08.559 place and what a great who do we all too? 1:39:08.560 --> 1:39:09.280 Do we all talk to? 1:39:09.280 --> 1:39:09.559 Today? 1:39:09.560 --> 1:39:11.600 We talked to the Marvel man. We talked to the 1:39:11.720 --> 1:39:15.360 video game finance lady. Who is the first person we 1:39:15.400 --> 1:39:18.760 talked to? Why do I not remember a lot? We 1:39:18.760 --> 1:39:19.760 had a lot of interviews today. 1:39:19.760 --> 1:39:20.320 They're all good. 1:39:20.360 --> 1:39:23.240 We talked to the guy about uh not being a bum. 1:39:24.360 --> 1:39:28.519 We talked to the musician, Oh yes, the musician man? Wait, 1:39:28.560 --> 1:39:30.920 who else? Who's the very first person? Were you not 1:39:31.000 --> 1:39:33.599 here for that? You weren't here for that? Okay, Well, 1:39:33.680 --> 1:39:35.559 I don't know. I remember them all being good. If 1:39:35.560 --> 1:39:36.840 I remember anything about them all? 1:39:38.400 --> 1:39:40.240 Where do we look? This is this? 1:39:40.479 --> 1:39:45.200 The podcast is called Therapy Gecko and on YouTube it's 1:39:45.280 --> 1:39:48.080 Lyle Forever. I don't know why I made them different things. 1:39:48.120 --> 1:39:50.240 I gotta change that. How long has this been going for? 1:39:51.120 --> 1:39:56.240 Or Lyle Forever and Therapy Gecko and and folks, folks 1:39:56.280 --> 1:40:00.120 listening at home, thanks for listening. I'm a gecko. Well 1:40:01.000 --> 1:40:03.679 I'm crazy. I love doing that. We come to this park. 1:40:03.720 --> 1:40:05.160 If you ever come to New York City, come to 1:40:05.200 --> 1:40:06.719 watch the Square Park. It's a lovely place. 1:40:07.200 --> 1:40:10.960 I'll be here every week that I can, I'll be here. 1:40:11.000 --> 1:40:13.240 I'll be here talking to people on the phone, talking 1:40:13.240 --> 1:40:18.280 to people in real life. You know, sometimes I sit 1:40:18.400 --> 1:40:21.360 and you know, sometimes I crash out, I go crazy, 1:40:21.400 --> 1:40:23.640 But then other times I'm remembered that I actually I 1:40:23.680 --> 1:40:27.720 love life, I love people. Everything's fine. I'm gonna go drink. 1:40:27.720 --> 1:40:32.559 I'm gonna go drink the new Coke creamsicle. They have 1:40:32.600 --> 1:40:34.439 a Coke zero version of that. I'm gonna go get that. 1:40:34.520 --> 1:40:36.840 This is not an ad I were genuinely I'm gonna 1:40:36.840 --> 1:40:39.080 go get that. It's good, and they got a diet 1:40:39.160 --> 1:40:41.679 version of it. All right, I'm gonna stop talking. Thanks 1:40:41.680 --> 1:40:43.400 for listening to this podcast. Get Bliss