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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 2: Hello everyone, Welcome to the famous podcast, the almost Samest podcast.

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Speaker 2: Episode that is gonna break down the first episode of

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Speaker 2: Charity season. Ben, let's start it off, let's dig into it.

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Speaker 2: What was your takeaway, first impression, and then I'll give

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Speaker 2: you mine.

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Speaker 3: My takeaway was this, it feels like Charity is gonna

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Speaker 3: let us know how she feels what she's feeling through

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Speaker 3: the whole season, which is so exciting because I think

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Speaker 3: we're gonna have a communicative, passionate, and emotional experience because

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Speaker 3: the lead is allowing us in like she doesn't. My

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Speaker 3: first impression is she doesn't have the typical lead nerves.

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Speaker 3: I think she has nerves, but she doesn't have the

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Speaker 3: lead like hesitation to open up on night one like

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Speaker 3: some leads do, like myself. And I think that's gonna

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Speaker 3: make a great season because that's only going to get

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Speaker 3: more comfortable for her, and she's only going to allow

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Speaker 3: us in more and I think we're gonna like feel

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Speaker 3: this season.

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Speaker 2: I concur My takeaway is I actually was more in

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Speaker 2: tune with this episode than I am with most first episodes,

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Speaker 2: maybe because it wasn't as formulaic because they had the

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Speaker 2: twist of the brother being there, which was actually really fun. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I'm a little disappointed at the fact that the brother

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Speaker 2: revealed himself so early. I thought he could stick around

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Speaker 2: for a few weeks in different costumes, or just be

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Speaker 2: the bartender at the mansion all the time and just

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Speaker 2: keep feeding her info. We'll talk about him a little

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Speaker 2: bit more in depth later. But the other thing that

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Speaker 2: I did realize as far as Charity's personality is she's

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Speaker 2: undeniably likable. I kind of forgot how much I liked

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Speaker 2: her after Zach's season because there was so much drama

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Speaker 2: that happened after her departure. And I also sense like

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Speaker 2: no ego from her, which I think is a little

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Speaker 2: bit different than a lot of leads. I feel like

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Speaker 2: a lot of leads are just kind of like they

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Speaker 2: may feel like a little sense of entitlement, like you're

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Speaker 2: all here for me, but you and I just feel

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Speaker 2: like she's just super humble.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would agree, and watching even the re like

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Speaker 3: the previews for the rest of the season, I think

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Speaker 3: you're getting that it all. I mean, I think you're

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Speaker 3: saying almost exactly what I was saying too, where her

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Speaker 3: humility is allowing us to relate in a lot of ways.

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Speaker 3: And since we're relating, we're feeling it, and since we're

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Speaker 3: feeling it, we're involved in it. And I think that's

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Speaker 3: a big deal for a lead. Maybe something we've never

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Speaker 3: said or thought of, But a lead, as we've said

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Speaker 3: many times before, isn't a good lead because necessarily they're

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Speaker 3: likable because the show can make them likable. It's how

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Speaker 3: they respond to difficult situations, and how they respond to

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Speaker 3: really exciting situations, like how they let us in. And

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Speaker 3: I think Charity will have all of it. She's like

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Speaker 3: because she's humble, and because of that, we're going to

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Speaker 3: be able to be involved in her season, which is.

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Speaker 4: All we really want.

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Speaker 2: I mean.

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Speaker 3: Jesse starts the episode out by saying her love story

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Speaker 3: is going to be one.

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Speaker 2: For the ages, but he doesn't know at that point,

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Speaker 2: does he? Does he say it in the voiceover or

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Speaker 2: the beginning.

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Speaker 3: I have a feeling that segment would like when he's

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Speaker 2: No, because the awning's still up, which I liked the awning.

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Speaker 2: They had the awning up for Rain and I was

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Speaker 2: like I like this, I give me like a warm vibe.

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Speaker 4: It's Romanticum, that's a good point. Then he doesn't know it.

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Speaker 4: He doesn't know it.

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Speaker 3: But I will say I don't typically believe, no matter

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Speaker 3: who the host is, that opening line like this is

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Speaker 3: the most dramatic season ever, this is going to be

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Speaker 3: the one for the ages whatever. I don't typically believe

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Speaker 3: us involved. But I think charity story what we find

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Speaker 3: out more with her being the lead and we heard

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Speaker 3: she's went through pain and pain that most of us

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Speaker 3: when we enter into you know, the adult dating pool,

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Speaker 3: have felt before. Like it's not uncommon if you are

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Speaker 3: somebody who is dating or who has dated, to have

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Speaker 3: and I say, I get it. I understand why she's

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Speaker 3: so like so desiring a good partner, and I hope

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Speaker 3: be honest with you, I don't start every first episode

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Speaker 3: to see them paint her. I don't want to see

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Speaker 2: You just don't care.

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Speaker 3: I'm apathetic. I sometimes just don't care. And it's like, Okay,

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Speaker 3: I want to see the cast. I want to see

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Speaker 3: if they're exciting. I want to see what their stories

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Speaker 3: are season. I feel like I'm on Charity's team and

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Speaker 3: the cast better catch up.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well, that's great. I love that you feel that.

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about the cast. I like the way that

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Speaker 2: these entrances. There was no really over the top silly entrances.

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Speaker 2: They were all kind of cute, Like when I'm thinking

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Speaker 2: revealed to tequila shots. He was like, let's see if

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Speaker 2: you're up to date with your shots. That was cute.

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Speaker 2: And then the check that said check for Charity giving

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Speaker 4: That's good.

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Speaker 2: Do you think can you think of any others?

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Speaker 4: I can think it's really awkward ones.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but like again, there were no like big show entrance, no.

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Speaker 4: Big show, no big show. Yeah. It was they were

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Speaker 4: they were genuine, they were thoughtful. Uh.

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Speaker 3: The entrances never stand out to me as much in

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Speaker 3: and I just see who the person is, and like,

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Speaker 3: I like to honestly judge them right away.

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Speaker 2: Well we know that you're gonna judging the cast right away.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I like to see their first like reaction

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Speaker 3: and be like, okay, I think, and in my phone

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Speaker 3: where I keep the notes for the season, I say, Okay,

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Speaker 3: this is this guy. I think he's gonna be really awkward, Like, Okay,

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Speaker 3: here's this guy. His ego is massive. Oh, here's this guy.

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Speaker 3: He's the one liner charmer who will end up hurting charity.

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Speaker 3: Like I have all those things written down just to

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Speaker 3: see if I'm right. Later on, I will say I

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Speaker 3: don't know why one of the one two of them

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Speaker 4: One the guy that did the backflip.

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Speaker 3: Always impressive, Oh my gosh, always impressive, right, always impressive.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but what did he do as is like his

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Speaker 3: A helmet, like he wore a helmet in he had

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Speaker 3: would say old school diving, but that might be what

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Speaker 3: they still use to do deep diving. I don't know,

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Speaker 3: but he had a helmet so that and I feel

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Speaker 3: like I would be intimidated by that guy. You're like,

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Speaker 3: if if somebody walked in and they're like, yeah, I'm

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Speaker 3: I dive hundreds feet below the ocean and fix things

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Speaker 3: or whatever it is, I'd be like you are that

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Speaker 3: you aren't scared to bungee jump, and if and I'm

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Speaker 3: scared to bunge like you have no fear. I have

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Speaker 3: Those people intimidate.

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Speaker 2: Me when I think about the guy's entrances besides the

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Speaker 2: about the flip again because the flip, Like I think

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Speaker 4: It doesn't make sense to me.

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Speaker 2: On cement, it does not even anything relatively bouncing, and

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Speaker 2: like in a suit, right, he was wearing a suit.

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Speaker 3: Something dress. Up close, he was like, dressed up enough.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you got to think about the physics of

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Speaker 3: and you're going completely exactly over again back on your feet. Ashley,

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Speaker 3: I just I just did plots this morning. I do

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Speaker 3: like a heated weightlifting class every morning, okay. And there's

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Speaker 2: Hard enough, right, yeah, I can do it, I know,

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Speaker 2: always swaying during that move. Charity was just as impressed.

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Speaker 2: She basically just wants to watch this guy flip And

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Speaker 2: I'm sure all the guys in the house are going

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Speaker 4: Keep them around for the flipping.

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Speaker 3: Uh so those are the big and says Ashley, we're

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Speaker 3: far enough into the episode now that we got I

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Speaker 3: got to ask you first time we've really seen it

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Speaker 3: in a while. It is the twentiet season of The Bachelorette.

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Speaker 3: Very exciting for the show to be around twenty seasons.

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Speaker 3: What did you think about the cameos from the past bachelorettes.

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Speaker 2: I think they chose a couple of good ones to

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Speaker 2: do it. I liked it. They were all different. It

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Speaker 2: wasn't just like, hey, it's me checking in. They all

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Speaker 2: had kind of different advice okay, and they were all

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Speaker 2: at different stages of life now because of the show,

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Speaker 2: so I enjoyed that. I also enjoyed the format where

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Speaker 2: they put the package, you know, the intro profile package,

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Speaker 2: right before the guy like he like came out of

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Speaker 2: the limo. Then we saw the package and then we

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Speaker 2: saw him meet Charity. It was nice with them seeing

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Speaker 2: seeing them come out in the limo later. Do you agree, Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I would. I agree with that.

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Speaker 2: I can't believe it's been so long since they've changed

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Speaker 2: that up. But I think it really helped kind of

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Speaker 2: tell us who to narrow and on. Yeah, I agree,

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Speaker 2: all right, Well, any.

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Speaker 4: Guys the awkward ones? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Sorry, sorry, I was going to say, let's

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Speaker 2: go into the ones that she was really into. Go ahead, No,

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Speaker 2: let's do awkward ones.

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Speaker 4: Maybe it's just me, but Spencer was nervous and terrified.

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Speaker 2: If just Youk'm pretty sure everybody knows that. And do

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Speaker 2: you like the way that they dropped the music out?

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Speaker 2: Normally they go straight for the They just were like,

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Speaker 2: you want to see how awkward this is?

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Speaker 3: So it was awkward, right, Because sometimes I don't have

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Speaker 3: a great read on awkwardness because I'm fairly awkward myself.

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Speaker 4: Ie, I could not.

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Speaker 2: You're just I don't think you've ever been awkward in

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Speaker 2: Really, yeah, it's hard for you to watch.

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Speaker 4: I'll explain that because.

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Speaker 4: He straight up licked her face.

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Speaker 2: I know he licked her tongue. Okay, so let's slow

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 4: Are you sure? Yes? Hannah in for this please our producer?

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Speaker 2: Hannah okay, because I am just like not really like

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Speaker 4: Sorry, Hannah.

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Speaker 5: I was gonna say, there's a time and place and

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Speaker 4: Okay, So Hannah, it is not.

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Speaker 3: I was going to make a comment on this, and

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Speaker 4: Is in?

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Speaker 3: Honey, you're still in the dating pool? So are you

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Speaker 4: Hannah? Now? In this in this dating world?

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Speaker 5: Like not if you're just making out at a bar

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Speaker 4: I'd like that I felt creeped out.

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Speaker 2: No, I just want to give him benefit of the

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Speaker 2: gonna see him kis Charity a number of times? Sure,

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Speaker 2: If this is how he kisses there every time, then

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Speaker 4: It's gonna get hard. It's gonna get hard to watch.

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I don't remember that got.

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Speaker 3: No, they're great, and so he stays around and is

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Speaker 4: I mean I wouldn't have recognized him. Only a few.

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Speaker 2: Guys did weird the way that those guys did. Like,

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Speaker 3: To their benefit, Ashley, I think they've known Charity was

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Speaker 4: And they were doing their research.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you do you look into their life, their family,

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Speaker 3: Seasons agoing that one guy like made a playbook that

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Speaker 3: I think that some fans might find it like cheesy.

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Speaker 1: Like.

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Speaker 3: The Bachelor's tried a lot of new things in the

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Speaker 2: So we always say that they need to do something

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Speaker 2: be sticking around for other episodes?

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00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:26,000
Speaker 4: He'll be better?

438
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,200
Speaker 2: Why did he have to reveal himself? Maybe not every episode,

439
00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,120
Speaker 2: but like you know, a couple of weeks down the road.

440
00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,919
Speaker 2: It's just fun for us, and I do think it's

441
00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:34,639
Speaker 2: infilmentive for.

442
00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:38,640
Speaker 3: Here's the deal, here's my philosophy. They knew they needed

443
00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:40,600
Speaker 3: to start doing stuff on Night one. The show knew

444
00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,520
Speaker 3: that Night one was pretty bland, that it didn't have

445
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:48,439
Speaker 3: a spice, It didn't have like that side event that

446
00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:50,760
Speaker 3: allowed us all to get like watch it and kind

447
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,560
Speaker 3: of be intrigued. Like that bar was a great like

448
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,760
Speaker 3: bit for us to get into. I think the show's

449
00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:01,920
Speaker 3: assuming that if they didn't reveal him on Night one,

450
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,360
Speaker 3: there wouldn't really be a purpose to revealing him three

451
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,080
Speaker 3: weeks in, Like Night one needed this Night one needed

452
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,960
Speaker 3: the drama, it needed the entertainment three weeks from now,

453
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,400
Speaker 3: I think they're expecting that this cast will be entertaining

454
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,960
Speaker 3: enough where like having him come in and say, hey,

455
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,600
Speaker 3: some of you I'm questioning. At that point, Charity will

456
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 3: pretty much know who is good and bad, like she'll

457
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:25,679
Speaker 3: figure it out by then Night one she doesn't know,

458
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:27,440
Speaker 3: and so having her brother there as a guide on

459
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,480
Speaker 3: Night one, I think is a valuable tool. I also

460
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:34,040
Speaker 3: think it's an intriguing watch, a great bit, and I

461
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:37,080
Speaker 3: think it spiced Night one up enough for us as

462
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 3: our analysts and fans of the show to talk about it,

463
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,359
Speaker 3: which we usually don't talk a lot about Night one.

464
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 3: Our Night one episodes on this podcast are usually thirty

465
00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,679
Speaker 3: five minutes of us breaking down the entrances, what we

466
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,360
Speaker 3: think the season's going to look like, and then we're done.

467
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,919
Speaker 3: Think about it now, Ashley, we're twenty three minutes in

468
00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 3: and we are like halfway through the episode. Because that's

469
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,240
Speaker 3: how good Night One was compared to most seasons, and

470
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:03,680
Speaker 3: a lot of that is because of Neamayah.

471
00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 2: I completely agree. Well, then I would suggest let's throw

472
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:11,359
Speaker 2: in a friend like the Best Friends they observe week five,

473
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:13,040
Speaker 2: you know, I.

474
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,439
Speaker 3: Mean, hey, maybe next year, here's here's an idea for

475
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 3: the show. What if what if like the Bachelor's best girlfriend?

476
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 3: Maybe even she's married, right, their best girlfriends. What if

477
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 3: she's like a contestant. She comes in limo terances exactly,

478
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,080
Speaker 3: they get the little wink like, hey, how are you?

479
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,239
Speaker 3: She goes and chills inside. She gets to know all

480
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 3: the women she's around for a bit. She's the mole,

481
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 3: you know, she's the one.

482
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,439
Speaker 2: That's That's what I mean, Like, I want like a

483
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 2: full season mole. It would be so fun and.

484
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:42,640
Speaker 4: It wouldn't change the format at all.

485
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 2: No, no, and then we can see the girl powowing

486
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 2: and giving the dirt. It'd be so great, it'd be awesome.

487
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 2: I I think they did that with the Hulu show

488
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,960
Speaker 2: with Taye Diggs, where like they're cougars and then the

489
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,879
Speaker 2: cougar sons are integrated in the cast of all the

490
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:03,120
Speaker 2: young dating contestorts.

491
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 4: Okay, so that's good.

492
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 2: Okay, So let's talk about the guy that Nehemiah had

493
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 2: the I don't want to call it an issue, but

494
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:15,880
Speaker 2: maybe sent some red flags around. And that was by

495
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:22,120
Speaker 2: far Charity's favorite of the night, Brayden. She kissed four guys,

496
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 2: but she seemed way beyond with Braiden. And I get

497
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,399
Speaker 2: it because just as a girl, I'm looking at Braiden

498
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,920
Speaker 2: and he's definitely probably has the most.

499
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 4: Swag come on because he has an ear ring.

500
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 2: No, he's cute. I like, I think he's cute. I'm

501
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:44,399
Speaker 2: charmed by him, but I know he's bad. Okay, I'm charged,

502
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 2: but I know he's bad.

503
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 3: I said, Ashley, what we've done this for six years.

504
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 3: I wasn't going to bring it up because I know

505
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,919
Speaker 3: I just continue so I know he's bad. No, I

506
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,639
Speaker 3: continue to pound this into the ground every time, every

507
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:02,639
Speaker 3: season offline, online, we have somebody that you're into that

508
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 3: I'm like, Ashley, watch out for this dude. We've done

509
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,160
Speaker 3: it with leads. We won't mention names, but you've been like, oh,

510
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,640
Speaker 3: he's so great. I'm like, Ashley, pay attention, Like give

511
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:13,119
Speaker 3: it a year. Something weird's gonna happen. You should have

512
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,159
Speaker 3: been No, I'm not. I'm not denying this.

513
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 2: I know he's the dark.

514
00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 4: But you do not stop. How did you not.

515
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:28,159
Speaker 3: As soon as he says the words to charity? My

516
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 3: biggest problem in relationships is I can be over considerate.

517
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,440
Speaker 3: How did you not go that he's done, like he's

518
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 3: out of there, like this is even before it?

519
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,479
Speaker 2: Didn't she do it? Ben it's because we're ladies and

520
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 2: we're charmed by this off the bat, and there's the

521
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 2: physical attraction, and she can't deny it right now. She

522
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:51,639
Speaker 2: will eventually deny it.

523
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:51,880
Speaker 4: Though.

524
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 3: Anybody that tells you I have too big of a heart,

525
00:25:56,040 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 3: I give too much, I am way over too over considered,

526
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:01,400
Speaker 3: you have to run from them.

527
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 4: That is a red flag.

528
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 3: It's an ego. It's them inflating their ego because they've

529
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 3: been told that they are not considerate, they're not giving,

530
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,479
Speaker 3: and they say that's not true. I'm going to prove

531
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 3: you wrong. And how am I going to prove you wrong?

532
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:15,719
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna say it, like I'm just gonna say.

533
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 3: I'm not going to prove I'm not going to do

534
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 3: with my actions. I'm not going to do with anything

535
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 3: else in my life. I'm just gonna say it. You're

536
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 3: gonna believe me, because yes, is he a good looking fella?

537
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 4: He is a good looking fella. Yes.

538
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 3: Did he dress up real nice for night one? He

539
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 3: did dress up real nice for night one. Does he

540
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 3: have an earring that doesn't look awkward on him like

541
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 3: you would look on me? Yes, he does. He has

542
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 3: his earrings.

543
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,679
Speaker 2: His earring does it gives you like a Justin timberlike

544
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 2: vibe from like two thousand. It's great. Now the ear

545
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 2: rings in the future episodes are horrendous and like that

546
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 2: would have me sending him home. He's wearing like feather

547
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 2: ear rings, Like no, thanks.

548
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like the feather more. I think was cool.

549
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 3: But I'm telling you right now, you got every every

550
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 3: viewer if you were swooned.

551
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 4: Whatever it was. Neamiah is not wrong.

552
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:03,640
Speaker 2: Okay, but can I say this?

553
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 3: He is?

554
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 2: I get it, I get why she's charmed by him.

555
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 2: I know he's bad. I'm just gonna keep reiterating this.

556
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 2: And I thought he was far more appealing when he

557
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,199
Speaker 2: was sitting down with her during his entrance all that.

558
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,400
Speaker 2: When he did get to the bar and start kissing

559
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 2: and telling so much and being like oddly over excited publicly,

560
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 2: then I was starting to get a little bit of

561
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 2: a nick vibe.

562
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, yeah, but I still don't since Ashley that

563
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,959
Speaker 3: you're fully convinced that he is.

564
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 2: I'm convinced. I'm fully convinced, but I just know, I

565
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,439
Speaker 2: just I'm also just trying to put myself in her shoes,

566
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 2: and I feel I was the lead. I would be like, no, no,

567
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:54,120
Speaker 2: this off like we are ignoring all the the flags

568
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 2: right now.

569
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 4: Okay, that was my question.

570
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 3: If you were the lead of this season and he

571
00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 3: was on your season, does he make it to week two?

572
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 2: Yes, I'd be ignoring it, but probably aware that he's

573
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 2: too smooth.

574
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 4: Goodness, gracious, Ashley. We have so much to talk about.

575
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 2: But also, I'm gonna say something really bad right now,

576
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 2: go phrase yourselves, guys, I'm gonna be brutally honest. The

577
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 2: cast is attractive, of course, everybody is attractive in the

578
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,159
Speaker 2: way that like if you're if you're in class with

579
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 2: them and then you're doing a group project with them,

580
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 2: you develop a crush on them, right sure, but there's

581
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,640
Speaker 2: not a ton of guys in this cast that you're

582
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,679
Speaker 2: going to be like seeing at the bar and be like,

583
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,320
Speaker 2: oh my god, I have to have another drink so

584
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 2: I can actually go up to him. Oh my gosh,

585
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 2: like can I make eye contact with that guy? Like

586
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 2: you gonna go to Okay, thank you, ton.

587
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 3: But here's the deal, and and most people could probably

588
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 3: agree with this. It's great to have swagger, it's super

589
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 3: nice to look really good for night one. But when

590
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 3: you're talking about your husband or your partner, like it's

591
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 3: not important any longer. Right, The most attractive people can

592
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 3: become very unattractive, very quickly, right, I mean, and the

593
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 3: Bachelor is the perfect place to experience this. I have

594
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 3: this experience where somebody on night one that you're like,

595
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 3: oh my goodness, like they are drop dead gorgeous. I

596
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 3: can't not like date them, and then three weeks in

597
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 3: you're like, I don't see it anymore because of personality,

598
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 3: because of the way they treat other people, because of

599
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 3: the things being said, like it just happens, and you

600
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 3: have it happened week over week, and so it is

601
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 3: going to be interesting to see the journey of Braiden.

602
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 3: I am not putting any money behind Braiden. If I'm

603
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 3: a betting man, I'm saying that dude makes it about

604
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 3: three weeks he does something. Okay, well he does something.

605
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,239
Speaker 3: This is my bet right now, let me let me

606
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:52,080
Speaker 3: let me stick my statement. Here's my statement. He's going

607
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 3: to do something so inconsiderate that he is let go like,

608
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,040
Speaker 3: he is going to be the most inconsiderate person on

609
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 3: this season. At some point it will be a storyline

610
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 3: we talk about and so him saying he's too over considerate,

611
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 3: meaning he's too whatever that.

612
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 2: Means to be completely honest. I don't remember him saying that.

613
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 4: But it sticks out to me.

614
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 2: It would, it would stick out to you. And I

615
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,400
Speaker 2: was watching with Dawson, so like, I was pretty much

616
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 2: paying attention to the entire way through, but there may

617
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 2: have been a few lines where I was like taking

618
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 2: eggs away from him.

619
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, well I will say I paid attention to it.

620
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 3: It sticks out to me. I watch for it every season.

621
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 3: The other reason I was watching for it is because

622
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 3: there was a lot of one liners in Night One

623
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 3: this year. A lot of people had really smooth things

624
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 3: they said, and a lot of things that you could

625
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:45,360
Speaker 3: tell they prepped to say. It felt, you know, awkward

626
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 3: for me because yes, that is a pet peeve of mine.

627
00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 3: I understand it. I'm not going to dig into it,

628
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 3: but it is a pet peeve of mine. So it

629
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 3: did stand out to me. It felt like Night One

630
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 3: for as genuine and caring and honest as Charity was.

631
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 3: It felt like the guys came in knowing exactly how

632
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 3: they wanted this conversation to go, and it felt like

633
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 3: at times it worked like Night One she was swooned

634
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 3: over a few times. There was a lot of kisses,

635
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 3: there was a lot of connections. There was a lot

636
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 3: of people, you know, telling her how great she was

637
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 3: and is, which is awesome. She deserves that on Night one.

638
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 3: But I am excited for weeks three, four five, where

639
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 3: these guys no longer have one liners to give because

640
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 3: they've ran out of them, and the genuineness and the

641
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 3: authenticity and the real conversations need to start having. That's

642
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 3: what I'm excited for because Night one, Yes, it was

643
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 3: one of my favorite night ones in a long time.

644
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 3: It was one of the most awkward night ones I've

645
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 3: had a long time because of the one liners.

646
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 2: Really, Ben, I don't even think about this. I don't.

647
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 4: Maybe I'm the only it was.

648
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 2: Such a bend thing it is. I get it's also

649
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 2: probably a guy watching it. Nothing stuck out to me.

650
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 2: The only thing that sticks out to me, especially as

651
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 2: something that Ben doesn't like that he's now made me

652
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 2: like and not like, is you know when they self described,

653
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 2: And there's so much self describing at Night one, and

654
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 2: that makes me feel like, eh, but all of the

655
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,720
Speaker 2: producers are being like, what kind of person are you? Like?

656
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 2: What kind of character are you gonna bring to Charity?

657
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 2: You know in the season.

658
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, Night one is always a hard watch.

659
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 2: This was remember the lines that really any line really

660
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 2: gets you.

661
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 3: I just remember watching all these guys and being like,

662
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 3: you've tried really hard for this season.

663
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 4: Which is fine. I mean it's not one.

664
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 3: It's all awkward, it's all weird, and there's a bunch

665
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 3: of dudes trying to to hang out with one person.

666
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 3: But there was kisses, which makes me think that Charity

667
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 3: was very into a lot of these guys. She does

668
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 3: feel like some of them, and I think it's awesome.

669
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 3: I think it's great. I think there is a lot

670
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 3: of connections, some deep connections, as we'll talk about later on,

671
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 3: that this season will produce. I do feel for Nehemiah.

672
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 3: I don't have a sister, but I would imagine the

673
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 3: feeling of having your sister, you know, thirty feet away

674
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:05,920
Speaker 3: from you. Like I know where his bar was set

675
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 3: up at the mansion. It's not far from most of

676
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 3: the seating, and he's sitting there with a very clear

677
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 3: view of his sister and these guys making out.

678
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if it's weird, and maybe it's

679
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 2: weird come on as okay as a sister or sister thing,

680
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 2: Like if my sister was over there making out, I'd

681
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 2: be like giggling, not like thinking it was gross. But

682
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 2: I'm sure as a girl, a brother or sister a

683
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 2: relationship is probably gross.

684
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah.

685
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 3: I can't imagine that he's just like super chill with this,

686
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 3: And I can't imagine that he's just like, oh, that's cool,

687
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 3: there's my sister making out with the dude, Like I

688
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,959
Speaker 3: don't and like, just from the small bit we got

689
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 3: to see a nama, I can tell he's a great

690
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 3: a great dude, a great brother, cares a lot, wants

691
00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 3: to see his process not only bring joy to his sister,

692
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 3: but also brings some type of like future for his

693
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 3: sister when it comes to a partner, Like you can

694
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 3: tell in just a way he communicated with her, in

695
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 3: the way that he walked through that evening, and the

696
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 3: jokes that he made about himself and the awkwardness that

697
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 3: he felt at times that he was not there to

698
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 3: stand in the middle and be the bully big brother

699
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 3: that's like, you know, forcing Charity to make the right

700
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 3: and wrong decision. Even when he presented Braden to her.

701
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:13,879
Speaker 3: It was like, hey, I know you're into this guy.

702
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 3: I know you're like I know you like like what's

703
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 3: going on right now, but just be careful, like just

704
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 3: and I trust you to make that decision for yourself

705
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,360
Speaker 3: whenever you want to make that decision. I just trust that,

706
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 3: like you are looking into this. He was awesome, But

707
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 3: I can't imagine that was fun for him. I can't

708
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 3: imagine it was easy. I'm sure at times when these

709
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:34,759
Speaker 3: guys are like, yeah, I was just making out there

710
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 3: over there, he's like, oh really, go screw like, screw

711
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:37,920
Speaker 3: you man.

712
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 2: No, He's like you cringe. He's fine. I don't think

713
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,359
Speaker 2: he's not effective by I thought he had probably had

714
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 2: a great time. Need to get on sav he's bartending.

715
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 2: He looks like Steve Harvey. Bring him on, totally get

716
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 2: him on.

717
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 4: Let's bring him on. I want to talk.

718
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 2: I want him on for next week. This is a

719
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:59,839
Speaker 2: serious request. Producers. Okay, before we get into the first

720
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 2: and Russian rows, let's just talk about the kisses. There

721
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 2: is Aaron b there is Braiden. There was Josh was John,

722
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 2: which actually I was like kind of more surprised by

723
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 2: and who am I missing? I don't know there's one

724
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 2: other kiss.

725
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 3: I don't write them all down. I mean Braiden Aaron B.

726
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,439
Speaker 3: John definitely stood out. I don't think she kissed Joey

727
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:26,839
Speaker 3: or Xavier on night one.

728
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:28,400
Speaker 2: No, no, she didn't.

729
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 4: I will say, uh, my top top person after night one.

730
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 4: And I think he.

731
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 3: You just saw it in how he handled the evening

732
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 3: was Aaron B. I think he stood out to the

733
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 3: brother because he was at the bar kind of hanging

734
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 3: out and hearing, you know, a lot of the stuff,

735
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 3: and then when the guy asked, did you kiss her?

736
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 3: He was like, we had a great time, but I'm

737
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 3: not going to just like tell everything. Braiden was over

738
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 3: in the corner kind of during the entrance in the Amayah,

739
00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 3: expressing to aar and B how great his kiss was,

740
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 3: and Aaron B just kind of stood there, probably not

741
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 3: loving it, probably finding it very inappropriate for another guy

742
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 3: to be telling another contestant about that evening. But he

743
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 3: just stood there and you could just tell he took

744
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 3: it in and was like, hey, man, you you aren't

745
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 3: a threat to me this. You don't make me nervous.

746
00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 3: I am gonna be shocked if Aaron B. Is not

747
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 3: there at the end just after Night one.

748
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,760
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I know, Aaron b is definitely the long hauler.

749
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 2: And by the way I figured it out, it's Xavier

750
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 2: who was the fourth.

751
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 3: Kiss Okay, so that was Zavier, So there was four kisses.

752
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 3: I think there's many other guys that she was probably

753
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 3: just as equally into as she was, you know, the

754
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 3: guys that she kissed. But these are the guys that

755
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 3: kind of had to make, you know, the storylines on

756
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 3: night one. And I think there's all I think it's

757
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 3: a good group. As you said, I don't think, you know,

758
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,359
Speaker 3: this is a group just full of stop you know,

759
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 3: stop yourself in your tracks and you know, do a

760
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:57,720
Speaker 3: double check because these guys are like so ungodly good looking.

761
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 3: But I do think it's a good looking group of

762
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 3: solid dudes. And for the most part, if we think

763
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 3: about this episode, there was really only one person that

764
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 3: caused any type of controversy at Night one, and that

765
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 3: was Brayden, I know, is.

766
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 2: A troublemaker and we all know it. Who Sean with

767
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 2: the hair. Sean with the hair. The hair looks ridiculous.

768
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, well well I think we see that in the

769
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 3: preview also, so okay.

770
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gonna be a troublemaker. Okay, let's talk about

771
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 2: Braiden getting the first impression Rose. So basically she's worn

772
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 2: to not really give it to him, but then she's like,

773
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 2: guess what, I'm gonna give it to him anyway because

774
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 2: her brother seeing that he's just like two kiss and

775
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 2: Telly right, But she likes the fact that he's so

776
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 2: thrilled by his experience with her that he needs to

777
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 2: tell everyone. She terpreters did it a totally different way.

778
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 2: Do you think that there's a conversation that's taken out

779
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 2: of the edit where her brother was like, bo, it

780
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 2: seems like he's really genuinely into I.

781
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 3: Don't think it was taken out. I mean, I think

782
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 3: the way her brother presented it to her, I mean

783
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 3: he definitely allowed the space for her to interpret from

784
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 3: that conversation whatever she would like. He did not say

785
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 3: I don't think brings the guy for you. I don't

786
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 3: want to see him around again. Like he didn't say

787
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 3: any of that. He said, here's a deal. I have

788
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 3: weird feelings about this kinda but charity. You gotta do

789
00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,000
Speaker 3: what you gotta do. And he I think we did

790
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 3: see NEAMAI saying he's obviously very into you and you're

791
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 3: very into him. Yeah, and so that's fine. It's night one.

792
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 3: I thought again, Neiamiah handled that conversation really well. I

793
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,919
Speaker 3: did not expect him to get the first impression rose.

794
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 3: It did feel like a slap in the face to

795
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 3: a lot of the guys when he did get the rose.

796
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,280
Speaker 3: I imagine it going down like this behind the scenes.

797
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:08,720
Speaker 2: You want to hear my theory, Yes, yes, I feel

798
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:10,360
Speaker 2: similar things. I think.

799
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 4: So Charity is into this dude. It's very obvious.

800
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 3: She has the conversation with her brother where her brother says, hey,

801
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 3: just watch out for him. But he's very into you,

802
00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:24,479
Speaker 3: and he's very open about being into you. I don't

803
00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 3: like that, but Charity, you gotta do what you gotta do.

804
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 2: Is it a bad thing? I'm kind of playing Devil's

805
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,399
Speaker 2: advocate right now, But is it really a bad thing?

806
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 4: Yes, it's a very inappropriate thing.

807
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 3: It shows a lack of maturity and respect for the

808
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 3: other guys there, and it shows a lack of respect

809
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 3: for Charity because if you in this format had a

810
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 3: guy going around sharing every little detail of every conversation,

811
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,320
Speaker 3: every kiss, every romantic moment that you had that's unfair

812
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 3: to Charity because it ruins the other relationships and it

813
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 3: puts this image in their head and this thought in

814
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 3: their head. That is unfair to Charity because she's still

815
00:39:58,080 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 3: trying to pursue other relationships.

816
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 2: Now, it's really weird to put yourself in his shoes too,

817
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 2: where like Bryden is going around telling everybody about the kiss,

818
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 2: and even if you're like the most extrovert, like non

819
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 2: private person on the show, you liken never really go

820
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 2: and tell anybody about your intimate moments as the lead

821
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 2: unless they're like your best friends after a few weeks,

822
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 2: and then I'm still weird too.

823
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,240
Speaker 3: Let me let me, let me bring this into perspective

824
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:28,840
Speaker 3: for you, Ashley. Okay, so Jared, Jared's a great dude.

825
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 3: He's one of the best men I've ever met.

826
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 2: You're so sweet.

827
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 3: But Jared's on the show, right, And what do you

828
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 3: ever see Jared going on a date during his time

829
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 3: in the Bachelor and coming back and telling all the

830
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 3: dudes about every detail of that date.

831
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:47,760
Speaker 2: No, it's super weird. It is why he's playing Devil's advocate.

832
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:49,200
Speaker 2: Just remind just remember that.

833
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 3: But why would Jared not do that? You know, Jared.

834
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 3: Why would he not be that guy.

835
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,359
Speaker 2: Because like those things are supposed to be between the two

836
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 2: people dating.

837
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 3: And there's a respects the person he's dating, he respects

838
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 3: the other men in the house, he respects his friendships.

839
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, he respects their expect.

840
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 2: Any other men is a big part of that.

841
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 4: Actually.

842
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 3: So yeah, so I think right there we would say, no,

843
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 3: it's not a great decision because one of the best

844
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 3: dudes we know would never do that out of respect

845
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:21,439
Speaker 3: and maturity and care for not only of the men,

846
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,359
Speaker 3: but also the lead of the show. And so when

847
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 3: I see that, and that's the perspective I look at,

848
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 3: I go, when Braiden did this, I said, the dudes

849
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 3: I know that are good dudes. They wouldn't have done this.

850
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,359
Speaker 3: They would have never even thought of doing this. They

851
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 3: would never even would have They would have gone out

852
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:37,879
Speaker 3: of their way to not do this.

853
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,359
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, Now I have another question for you. Do

854
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 2: you think that Charity, if she would have actually seen it,

855
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 2: would have been turned off by it and it made

856
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 2: a different decision. So what do you think she's got

857
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 2: lust blinders? On?

858
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:52,640
Speaker 4: No, I think it's different on night one.

859
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:56,439
Speaker 3: I think in five weeks, if somebody did this, then

860
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:58,839
Speaker 3: she would be upset. But I think on night one

861
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 3: it is such an emotional rollercoaster. It is so exciting.

862
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 3: You're just hoping that somebody there is into you. Really,

863
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,399
Speaker 3: I mean, that is every leads concern is these people

864
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 3: are gonna showuplay and be like, gosh, dang it, like

865
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 3: let's go through this. And I think on night one

866
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 3: that validation feels really good, and it feels healthy, and

867
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 3: it feels it feels like it's never going to cause

868
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 3: an issue.

869
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 4: It just in your mind.

870
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 3: I think, as the lead, you're thinking these people being

871
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:31,240
Speaker 3: so into me is only gonna benefit the process because

872
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 3: now they're gonna be so solely focused on getting to

873
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 3: know me of going on dates with me, and they're

874
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 3: almost gonna be not I'm gonna say competing, but I

875
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 3: think you know what I mean, for like the for

876
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 3: me that this is gonna work because they are into me.

877
00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 3: But in five weeks, when these relationships do progress and

878
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 3: she is more comfortable within them and there is things

879
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 3: that she's trying to protect to continue on with other

880
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 3: relationships apart from maybe the one with Braden, she's gonna

881
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 3: be a lot more sensitive to the damage that those

882
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 3: conversations that he's having outwardly can cause on the other

883
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 3: relationships that she's into right now. It's not a problem

884
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:10,720
Speaker 3: five weeks from now, big problem.

885
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, yep. And it would come across way weirder if

886
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:16,959
Speaker 2: he was doing this for in the weeks to come.

887
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 4: Yeah.

888
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 3: Sure, so Hey, not necessarily a deal breaker, not necessarily

889
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 3: a reason not to give him a rose, but it

890
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 3: is something to look out for as the season progresses.

891
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 3: For him getting the first impression Rods, I do feel

892
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 3: like was weird to go back to how I think

893
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 3: this worked behind the scenes. I think that Charity has

894
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 3: this conversation with her brother, she goes and sits with Braden.

895
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 3: He tells her, Hey, you know what, I'm just so

896
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 3: into you it is hard for me to keep it in.

897
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 3: And she's going, this is what I needed on night one.

898
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 3: And the producers are saying validate. They're all they're telling her,

899
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 3: because they're not telling her to give them the first

900
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:52,879
Speaker 3: impression rows.

901
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 4: They don't do that again. I but they're definitely saying

902
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 4: validate the excitement.

903
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 3: The excitement because he's feeling out on himself. He's feeling

904
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 3: awkward because he got called out by your brother and

905
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 3: these other guys. He's feeling like maybe he didn't do

906
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 3: something right, and they're saying, just validate that he's okay

907
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,399
Speaker 3: and give them the first impression rows And it works

908
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 3: out best for everybody because now there's a target on

909
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 3: the back of the guy that the producer is definitely

910
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 3: wanted the target on the back of, and Braiden's feeling

911
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 3: more validated. So his behavior is only going to continue

912
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 3: to go in the direction it was before. The guys

913
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 3: are upset with Braiden. He's an easy guy to get

914
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 3: upset with. He is a front runner, he is attractive,

915
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:36,240
Speaker 3: he is you know, swoony, he is smooth, all these things.

916
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 3: Everything works out, and so the producers, even though they

917
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:40,439
Speaker 3: don't tell her you have to give this to him,

918
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 3: they're in the control room going, yes, it worked out

919
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:44,240
Speaker 3: like we hoped it would.

920
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 2: Ben Bravo, that was such a clarifying explanation as to yeah,

921
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 2: I love that, Thank you. Really you pinpointed.

922
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,440
Speaker 4: It because they don't. It's not scripted. I just want

923
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 4: to be clear.

924
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 3: The producers are never telling her you have to this

925
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 3: or you have to do that, like that is not

926
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,399
Speaker 3: a thing. And I don't think it takes away from

927
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,879
Speaker 3: the legitimacy of the show to say, but they do

928
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 3: have like their idea ideal storyline on night one, Like,

929
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 3: they do have this idea. Okay, if Aaron Bee gets

930
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 3: the first impression Rose, like, here's what here's how it's

931
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:17,839
Speaker 3: going to be taken. Yeah, if Braiin gets it, here's

932
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 3: how it's going to be taken. And so when they

933
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:23,320
Speaker 3: saw the opportunity for Braiden to get it, they said, whoo,

934
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:24,879
Speaker 3: the sky's have opened up again.

935
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 2: Yes, so they either really would love to have like

936
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 2: the long term love be the first impression Rose or

937
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 2: the villain to be. And in this case, when she

938
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,320
Speaker 2: when he got the first impression Rose, my first thought was, oh,

939
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,880
Speaker 2: this is one of the seasons where the villain to

940
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 2: be will be getting the Rose, a guy that's not

941
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 2: going to stick around super long, someone who really pulled

942
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:53,439
Speaker 2: the wool over her eyes initially. Okay, do we even

943
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 2: remember the guys names that got eliminated?

944
00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 3: Okay, so, but they're all really good looking. I just

945
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 3: feel like they didn't, you know, they didn't get their

946
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:04,080
Speaker 3: shot with her, Like there wasn't a guy that was like,

947
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 3: oh he was definitely going home on night one. There

948
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 3: was nobody on night one that I felt like they're gone.

949
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. Sneak peek upcoming episodes. What's what obviously

950
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 2: is really standing out to us is Brandon's ear rings

951
00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 2: and the fact that he will be into drama. The

952
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,800
Speaker 2: fact that the guy with the swoopy hair will also

953
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 2: what's his name, Sean, I don't know who we're talking about. Sean, Yeah,

954
00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 2: Sean will also beginning to drama. Joey with the Tongue.

955
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,399
Speaker 2: Joey says at one point that he's falling in love

956
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 2: with Jaredy in the the scenes for the next episode,

957
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 2: so like we think that he'll probably be around for

958
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 2: quite some time. That's not a shock to me at all.

959
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 2: I think Joey's definitely top six in this group.

960
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 3: Don't we see it with Dunton. Dunton says as well,

961
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 3: and Aaron B.

962
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 2: Dunton definitely says something serious about being into her at

963
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 2: a dinner table. So I think he gets to be

964
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 2: around for a while, and then I think the drama

965
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 2: will just be at the end. Just seems to be

966
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 2: what it's been for a while now thanks to you

967
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 2: that she's fallen in love with multiple people, they really

968
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 2: stole that storylining. What was it? Ben?

969
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 3: Was that the best thing that ever happened to the

970
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 3: Bachelor and Bachelorette? Seriously, I guess so was my pain

971
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 3: like the sword they needed me to fall on so

972
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 3: they could open up a whole new chapter of the show.

973
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 4: I'm wondering that.

974
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:29,479
Speaker 3: I watched this last night and I was like, wait,

975
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 3: everybody's gonna watch this one and be numb to it,

976
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 3: but also feel for her. I know how they're gonna smile.

977
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,799
Speaker 3: They're like, this is so hard. I get it. When

978
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 3: I did it, it was the opposite. And I was

979
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 3: watching this and Jess was sitting in the room with me,

980
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 3: and I said, Honey, and I've never had this feeling

981
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 3: in my life. I'm want to say it here because

982
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 3: it tread. I was like, am I the best thing

983
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 3: that ever happened to the show?

984
00:47:57,920 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 5: Like?

985
00:47:58,120 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 2: Am I?

986
00:47:58,719 --> 00:47:58,839
Speaker 1: Like?

987
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 2: Oh my god? I never says things like that, and I.

988
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 3: Love it, But at some point it's like this thing

989
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 3: is happening in it.

990
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 4: And when I did it, I had to.

991
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 3: Explain myself of how in the world could you fall

992
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 3: in love with two people and how in the world

993
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 3: can you tell two people you love them and how

994
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,399
Speaker 3: in the world could it be so hard to have

995
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 3: somebody to go home on the day. And it's like,

996
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,839
Speaker 3: I don't know, it just was like it felt very

997
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 3: human to me.

998
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 4: It felt very real to me.

999
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 2: It fat now every lead is like I'm falling in

1000
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 2: love with theltle. People that were like, of course you are, Yeah,

1001
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 2: of course. We feel so bad that you have to

1002
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,160
Speaker 2: make this difficult decision between multiple people that you are

1003
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:36,520
Speaker 2: obviously in love with. It's it's so believable.

1004
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 4: And it is believable.

1005
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, but when I did it, it was I got crushed,

1006
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 3: like absolutely destroyed. It was like everything good is every

1007
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:51,800
Speaker 3: This season pretty much had like nothing dramatic, maybe even nothing.

1008
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 3: Maybe it's the best thing that ever happened to me

1009
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 3: because the one thing that kept my storyline continuing. And

1010
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:01,760
Speaker 3: I guarantee like their tweets like she pulled the Ben Higgins,

1011
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 3: I guarantee that. So maybe it's the best thing that

1012
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 3: ever happened to me. Is I did something controversial.

1013
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 2: You did something in pop culture history that will live long.

1014
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 3: Oh well, I watched it and I said, I feel

1015
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 3: pretty Charity, I feel bad for you. I know how

1016
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 3: this feels. I know that it sucks. I know that,

1017
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 3: like it's confusing. I know that you're not used to this.

1018
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 3: I know I know how this feels charity. I watch

1019
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 3: it with that and then I stopped and I said,

1020
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:29,799
Speaker 3: time out, time out. People are gonna feel for her.

1021
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 3: And when I did it, I got crushed and I

1022
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 3: felt very alone and very confused, and I felt, I literally, actually,

1023
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:38,240
Speaker 3: here's something crazy.

1024
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:39,359
Speaker 4: Never said this.

1025
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:44,799
Speaker 3: I went to therapy because of this with the show's therapist.

1026
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, which she was amazing.

1027
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:51,360
Speaker 3: And said to her, I remember this exact conversation. I said, Hey,

1028
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 3: this is real to me. I felt this way. I

1029
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 3: don't want to deny that I did feel this way.

1030
00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 3: Am I like, is there something wrong with me?

1031
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: Like?

1032
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 4: Am I the weirdo?

1033
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 2: Not?

1034
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 3: I'm definitely weird, but it's like, am I do I

1035
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 3: have deep seated issues with me? Because I said this

1036
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 3: and because I felt this, like, am I ever going

1037
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 3: to be able to find my partner? Because of how

1038
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 3: I felt during this show? It was a real thing

1039
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 3: to me because I felt so alone and so isolated

1040
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:26,520
Speaker 3: and so much like the world said, how in the

1041
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 3: world that you could never feel that way?

1042
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 4: I would never feel that way?

1043
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 3: Well, got news for you, everybody it happens, and Charity

1044
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 3: experienced it, and if you trust Charity and you like Charity,

1045
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 3: well yeah, there's some more validation.

1046
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 2: Ben. Maybe we should do like a therapy session with

1047
00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 2: you and all the leads that said this, Like you

1048
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 2: guys have a good group convos, there'd be thirty.

1049
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 3: Of us, there'd be every one of us have felt

1050
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 3: this way. So I'm just a first to say it outwardly.

1051
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 3: So maybe that makes me.

1052
00:50:58,200 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 4: Stupid. I don't know.

1053
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 2: There's no other moment, and the scenes in the next

1054
00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 2: episode that I liked. We're obviously gonna have like a

1055
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 2: badass chick moment with Charity. Don't know what it's about yet,

1056
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 2: but I know that she's like the kind of girl

1057
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 2: that is just so likable. But then like when she

1058
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 2: needs to stand up for herself, she's just gonna rocket

1059
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:16,720
Speaker 2: And I'm excited for that moment.

1060
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, she rips that rose off of him. I forget

1061
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 4: what she said.

1062
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 2: Well, that's right, she goes you think that like, you

1063
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 2: can't I can't just pick that right back off of

1064
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 2: you or something like that.

1065
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 3: I think she like swears and then takes it and

1066
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 3: walks off. I'm like, I want to see this so bad.

1067
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 3: I love those moments because that guy obviously deserved.

1068
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 2: It, and it was Sean. I think, yeah, well.

1069
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,760
Speaker 3: We can hope Ashley. It's gonna be a great season.

1070
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 3: It's good to be back into it. It's good to

1071
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 3: have a season airing, and I think this is going

1072
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,279
Speaker 3: to be a good season. I hope people tune in

1073
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 3: and if you're not watching yet and you're just listening

1074
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 3: to the podcast, because we have gotten that feedback.

1075
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 2: Some people do. Guys.

1076
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say it's gonna be worth watching at

1077
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 3: least tune in for a few episodes to see how

1078
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:04,319
Speaker 3: you feel about it. It's I think it's gonna be

1079
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 3: one that brings fans back and that that is something

1080
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 3: that all of us want, and so tune into this

1081
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 3: this season, charity season of The Bachelor at season twenty.

1082
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:19,359
Speaker 3: We'll be back next week breaking down week two of

1083
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 3: this season. We're not missing a week, even with the

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Speaker 3: holidays coming up. So until then, I've been Ben, I've

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Speaker 3: been Ashley.

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Speaker 2: See you guys next week.

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