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Speaker 1: your hosts, Mickey's Fagnola, Brian brought us, Taylor Stern and
Speaker 1: Rob Phillips. Welcome everyone to another edition of Talking Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Always happy to be here, live from the SUBC Mortgage Studio.
Speaker 1: And it is the bye week, but it is the
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys and there is news to be talked about.
Speaker 1: So before we get to all of that, how are
Speaker 1: you guys doing, Mickey? You look great in your gold?
Speaker 1: Thank you go Tigers was the reason they were showing
Speaker 1: cowboy highlights. Their h Rogers named Offensive Player of the week,
Speaker 1: and yeah, the NFC he was how many times it
Speaker 1: was the Cowboys defense? Now done that twice, girly one
Speaker 1: two in a row. Nothing happened in Denver, right, Anderson
Speaker 1: and one of those guys didn't get named did they
Speaker 1: had to be proud of Now Anderson might go to
Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl, though he'll be able to highlights we
Speaker 1: see exactly, So maybe Brady through for four hundred yards
Speaker 1: at point. Yeah, probably, that's a good point. You never know.
Speaker 1: These these quarterbacks, they're able to just do magic sometimes
Speaker 1: just trying to keep up with the current thanks events, yep,
Speaker 1: I appreciate it, makey because some current events we have
Speaker 1: going here. It is now expected that Nolan Carroll will
Speaker 1: be released from the Dallas Cowboys. Of course, he was
Speaker 1: a free agent signing for the team in this spring
Speaker 1: after they had a lot of defensive guys go with
Speaker 1: different contracts things like that. So Nolan Carroll released, It's
Speaker 1: nothing has officially been said yet. You know, the salt
Speaker 1: expected to be. He was not out at practice when
Speaker 1: it was available about an hour ago, so they just
Speaker 1: finished what's wrong about him? I was wrong about Nolan Carroll?
Speaker 1: Why were you wrong? I felt no, only Carroll could
Speaker 1: come in and give you some of the similar play
Speaker 1: that you got with Brandon Carr. But did you expect Nolan,
Speaker 1: I mean Nolan Carroll to have this injury. No, but
Speaker 1: that's still not the he you know, you look at
Speaker 1: the Giants game was not an issue the but the
Speaker 1: the Denver game was an issue even before he got hurt. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and so to me, that's that's bad on my part
Speaker 1: to miss evaluate a player that you know, you saw
Speaker 1: some things, some traits with him that were better than
Speaker 1: what you saw with Carr. I liked this ability to
Speaker 1: fight for the football. I think we saw some of
Speaker 1: that in training camp when he battled Dez. I saw
Speaker 1: some separation where he was you know, he wasn't as
Speaker 1: good as where he needed to be. I thought Nolan
Speaker 1: Carroll would play better for this football team. I can
Speaker 1: understand what the scouts saw in him. And you know,
Speaker 1: because I saw this a lot of the similar things
Speaker 1: on the film. I love the fact that when you
Speaker 1: know that he played the Giants, he was very competitive
Speaker 1: against Odell Beckham. You know, I felt like, hey, if
Speaker 1: you can match up with people in the division. I
Speaker 1: mean I watched all his games that he played against
Speaker 1: opponents within the division, and it didn't give me any pause.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you watch a guy and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you're guy going, well, he can't help you because and
Speaker 1: I was wrong about him, because again he wasn't up
Speaker 1: to the task. The injury didn't help. But looking now
Speaker 1: at it, though, playing all these young kids, that's fine.
Speaker 1: If you want to play a Woozier, you want to
Speaker 1: play Lewis and if they in fact do release no
Speaker 1: only Carroll, you said he wasn't on the field if
Speaker 1: they bring somebody up off the practice squad, or they
Speaker 1: signed somebody else, you know, another position, you know, if
Speaker 1: it's white, whoever, you know, that's that's fine with me too.
Speaker 1: I hear what you're saying, Bran, and I think sometimes
Speaker 1: you are a little hard on yourself. No, it's true,
Speaker 1: but it's my job to evaluate these players. And when
Speaker 1: you don't do it the correct way, and you paint
Speaker 1: a picture to somebody out there, whether it's Talking Cowboys
Speaker 1: or or Dallas Cowboys dot Com, you have to be
Speaker 1: you know, what you see is what you say. And
Speaker 1: then and I did. I thought, no, only Carroll would
Speaker 1: help this football team on the same level with Brandon Carr.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe a little bit better. But he just wasn't.
Speaker 1: And if yah, that's the move they make, that's the
Speaker 1: move they make. Good points. But did Jordan Lewis, Mickey
Speaker 1: rob did? He played better than everyone expected as a rookie,
Speaker 1: especially dealing with some hamstring injury in training camp. You know,
Speaker 1: I thought now Orland Carroll was a bridge to getting
Speaker 1: to the young guys, because now they signed him before
Speaker 1: they even had the young guys, right, so they did that.
Speaker 1: It kind of covered herself going into the draft that
Speaker 1: they didn't have to see looks like Alfred Morris. Boy,
Speaker 1: we just need you know, we just need a cornerback.
Speaker 1: And then when they drafted all those guys, I said, Okay,
Speaker 1: they got a veteran guy. Here's got some experience. That'll
Speaker 1: buy time for Woozier, by time for Lewis, maybe by
Speaker 1: time for Brown, Marquez White, Anthony Brown, and you know,
Speaker 1: he just he never stood out to me. And then
Speaker 1: the young guys got hurt, so it bought him more time.
Speaker 1: Right now they're healthy and it's like, well, you know,
Speaker 1: they've shown they can play, and if they're gonna play
Speaker 1: as well as a veteran guy, then play the young guys. Now.
Speaker 1: The downside to all this is it costs some money
Speaker 1: against the salary cap. He did pay him some signing bonus.
Speaker 1: He can, since he's a vested veteran, take his base
Speaker 1: salary for the year, which I assume it's probably close
Speaker 1: to a seven seven hundred, six hundred thousand. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: he only played how many games won before he got hurt?
Speaker 1: Two games. I can't even remember. You got hurt. Hurt
Speaker 1: in the second game, so two games. So yeah, so
Speaker 1: it becomes an expensive bridge. But you know, if you're
Speaker 1: gonna go forward with the young guys, then you know,
Speaker 1: go forward. And now you've created a roster spot for
Speaker 1: you know what Brian said, possibly Marquez White or maybe
Speaker 1: you need something else. Um, maybe they're I don't know
Speaker 1: what else they'd be looking for. I think they're in
Speaker 1: a position back. Maybe the way Jordan Lewis has played,
Speaker 1: you've got to get him on the field and you
Speaker 1: got to play him a lot of snaps. He's been
Speaker 1: arguably their most productive corner the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: What he's done. The thing that kind of surprised me
Speaker 1: because Mickey mentioned the money involved, is Okay, you'd rather
Speaker 1: have been Wickery than Nolan Carroll, A healthy Nolan Carroll.
Speaker 1: That's the decision they made. We haven't seen a lot
Speaker 1: from Ben Wickery to say, yeah, really how he's played,
Speaker 1: but that's the decision they made. I agree, like, if
Speaker 1: these guys had been healthy in camp, this might have
Speaker 1: been accelerated. Yeah, you know, I think to me that
Speaker 1: if the fact that they kept Ben Wickery over him
Speaker 1: tells you what you need to know right there, You
Speaker 1: know that they felt like they'd been Wickery if they
Speaker 1: had to have a veteran player that they were more
Speaker 1: willing to keep him around, and if they want to
Speaker 1: play him, then that's where they're gonna go. But I
Speaker 1: was flat wrong about Nolan Carroll. I really was. And
Speaker 1: that and that's and that's that's the thing. You never
Speaker 1: remember the ones you hit. You remember the ones you
Speaker 1: were wrong about, you know, thinking what he was. So
Speaker 1: it is what it is, and you know, you move on.
Speaker 1: Like Mickey says, it costs you money. I think he
Speaker 1: was a three year, ten million dollar thing. The guarantees
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, so uh yeah, it's never easy
Speaker 1: to go that route, but they're going to go that route. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it was a was a three million dollar guarantee.
Speaker 1: It was. It was Mottle pricing more than I expected,
Speaker 1: a little pricing. He had three million guaranteed. And when
Speaker 1: you think about Cedric Thornton as well that they let go. Well,
Speaker 1: that's what I was just going to get into, Robin,
Speaker 1: since it is a bye week show, and yes we
Speaker 1: do have some news. We'll get to Shaun Lee at
Speaker 1: practice soon, but Rob, I'll start with you first. Now
Speaker 1: that we're five weeks in and we're seeing that the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are two and three and the deficiencies that we're
Speaker 1: seeing on defense, should the Cowboys front office staff re
Speaker 1: look at how they approach free agency? You know, they
Speaker 1: in terms of what they approach it very conservatively, you know,
Speaker 1: doing these bridge type players. I mean, you just named
Speaker 1: a great one and I thought it's such a good
Speaker 1: point to bring up Cedric Thornton. You know, a guy
Speaker 1: that they really went after the year before, offered him
Speaker 1: a big time contract. Benson Mayowa has been another one
Speaker 1: that they've gone after. It was a restricted one. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he maan a great example. I'm sorry when you said
Speaker 1: a great one, you meant great example, great example. Sorry, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was hoping you didn't mean a great no. No,
Speaker 1: no, no no, good catch, goodt But Rob, I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: they let so many of these guys go, and of
Speaker 1: course we're seeing them have success at other teams, totally
Speaker 1: different personnel, different schemes. But should they re look at this?
Speaker 1: And you know, are they relying too heavily on the
Speaker 1: draft process? Um? I see, if you talk to Stephen Jones,
Speaker 1: what he'll tell you is it's it's he's more a
Speaker 1: believer now than ever before that it's a young man's game,
Speaker 1: and I think Will McClay has had a lot to
Speaker 1: do with that. They try to build through the draft.
Speaker 1: Like you said, I think that's the right way to go,
Speaker 1: especially when you have a lot of Pro Bowl, all
Speaker 1: Pro type guys that you have to resign. You have
Speaker 1: to figure that into account. With Zack Martin, they've got
Speaker 1: to eventually pay him. Guys like that, So, yeah, bridge
Speaker 1: type players. They're trying to spend their money wisely and
Speaker 1: not overpay it. You know, Cedric Thornton wasn't a large contract.
Speaker 1: It was about an eighteen million dollar deal a year
Speaker 1: or two ago. Well, I think that's a prime example
Speaker 1: of why you don't spend well in Yeah, Mayo was
Speaker 1: like a nine million dollars. They haven't spent a ton
Speaker 1: of money. It's just always risking free agency because there's
Speaker 1: always a reason why guys are available on the market.
Speaker 1: But they've tried to be smart with it and build
Speaker 1: primarily through the draft, and I think that's the way
Speaker 1: to do it. It's just not an exact science. And
Speaker 1: I think that the Thornton signing to me was really
Speaker 1: confusing that it didn't work out, because when you watched
Speaker 1: him play against Dallas. He was pretty successful. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: was especially stopping the Cowboys running game. He was a
Speaker 1: good player in Philly. So you know, I trust this
Speaker 1: front office. It's just sometimes these free agent deals don't
Speaker 1: always work out. Would you like to spend more money?
Speaker 1: Is that what you're saying? Well, no, I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: you know, should they have spent more money with the
Speaker 1: guys that they had already had here instead of letting
Speaker 1: them go? Now, I know you mean, like keep Terrell
Speaker 1: Terrell McClean already had like those types of guys. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying go after the big hot shots on the market.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, you know, yes, they had already had Thornton
Speaker 1: and McClean was a good guy, and you know, we're
Speaker 1: seeing him what he's doing up with Washington Redskins. But
Speaker 1: and they might have said, hey, we're going to pick
Speaker 1: him off because we've seen what he's done two times
Speaker 1: a year. Yeah, or keep keep Mark Clayborn or or
Speaker 1: Ron Leary. You know that's a huge one. But you
Speaker 1: have a budget, you do, and you know it's just
Speaker 1: not a matter of going to the store and shopping
Speaker 1: and buying what you want. But I think her point
Speaker 1: is though, would you you would rather have Terrell McClean
Speaker 1: paid as opposed to Cedric Thornton. Well, yeah, after you
Speaker 1: found out what Cedric Thornton was. No, but that's what
Speaker 1: you didn't know what Terrell McClean. That's that's the right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's the evaluation. And I think that she's talking
Speaker 1: about is they seem to have had more success or
Speaker 1: maybe not. They've traded for some guys they traded, you know,
Speaker 1: but you look at David Irvin. You know, you traded
Speaker 1: for Bryce Butler, you traded for Matt Castle. Yeah, see,
Speaker 1: but that that was out of you had to have, yeah, quarterback. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but they seem to have a better look of trading
Speaker 1: for a guy and having it work out than they
Speaker 1: do having the guy to go out and sign as
Speaker 1: that free agent. But you just said that you thought
Speaker 1: that Nolan Carroll could be as good, if not better, than,
Speaker 1: Brandon car would you. Yeah, they have kept Brandon Carr.
Speaker 1: Would that have been within there? Well? Yeah, that Brandon
Speaker 1: cart Bean. Yeah, I mean they could have, they could
Speaker 1: have offered him. I mean, to me, I would have.
Speaker 1: I thought the guy that played better was was actually
Speaker 1: uh Mo Claiborne. You know, if you look at just
Speaker 1: who played better. But you know, but but the steadiness
Speaker 1: and the reliability of Car is impressive. There's nothing wrong
Speaker 1: with that at all. So I think you bring up
Speaker 1: a point though, in terms of when you're scouting these guys,
Speaker 1: it's always you know, you're you're you're playing it less risky,
Speaker 1: but just to stick with the guys that you know,
Speaker 1: instead of like bringing back at Terrell, McLean, bringing back
Speaker 1: a Car or whoever, instead of you kind of taking
Speaker 1: a chance on a guy that you've watched on film
Speaker 1: but you haven't been around him. You don't really know
Speaker 1: for sure if they fit into your scheme until you
Speaker 1: really get them here. But like you said, I mean
Speaker 1: Thornton was a signing before McLean really broke out, So yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a budget involved, and they'd really I like what
Speaker 1: they did in the secondary just trying to get young.
Speaker 1: Barry Church got a huge contract that they just weren't
Speaker 1: going to I mean some of these guys that resigned
Speaker 1: Mo Yeah, I mean they're just there was some salary
Speaker 1: there that they just weren't going to match and couldn't
Speaker 1: match because they've got to they've got to address other
Speaker 1: things well, and absolutely, I mean they did make an
Speaker 1: effort to keep Terrence Williams. Obviously he got kind of
Speaker 1: a lower Yeah, they both expected. I think they were
Speaker 1: preparing for him to leave. I think we all were
Speaker 1: preparing for him to maybe get between seven and eight
Speaker 1: million dollars. And then all of a sudden, you look
Speaker 1: at all that, Mickey, No, then all these receivers, why,
Speaker 1: well they were We know you and you might be right,
Speaker 1: because what's happen is what's happened is we saw a
Speaker 1: lot of receivers. We saw a lot of receivers get
Speaker 1: one year deals. If you look at guys I believe
Speaker 1: gar Song got a one year deal, you look at
Speaker 1: what happened Prior got a one year deal. So you
Speaker 1: had some receivers. Teams just did not want to pay receivers.
Speaker 1: And again that's you talk about mis evaluation. That's a
Speaker 1: mis evaluation right there. You know they felt like that
Speaker 1: that you know, not they we all felt like that
Speaker 1: maybe that some of these receivers were going to get
Speaker 1: paid and the league didn't pay him overall. Remember Laarn Robinson. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well that was my example. You know, Big Year wound
Speaker 1: up getting way overpaid, right and left this team, but
Speaker 1: it didn't happen and they got They got Terence back
Speaker 1: on a bargain. Good Brocko Sweller. He might be the
Speaker 1: best free agency regency deal out there. Yes, yeah, so
Speaker 1: just a thought, you know, just because you look here,
Speaker 1: we're five weeks in the different things that people are
Speaker 1: discussing with the d line. I think you bring up
Speaker 1: a good name Mickey and McClane and other guys. You know,
Speaker 1: Jack Crawford was a productive guy. He's now out on
Speaker 1: IR for the Falcons. But it was just a big
Speaker 1: year for free agency for the Dallas Cowboys with so
Speaker 1: many contracts up. What do you think they played better
Speaker 1: run defense last year? Why? Yeah, can you point to
Speaker 1: a couple of things? Why did you think it was
Speaker 1: because of McClean? Is that where you're no, I'm just
Speaker 1: I'm just curious. Think I think Shawn Lee played sixteen games.
Speaker 1: We can start right there. That helps. Yeah, you're down
Speaker 1: two games with him already. True, Um, you had Hitchens
Speaker 1: for sixteen games. Yeah, and you know and don't tell me, Okay,
Speaker 1: well Hitchens was there last Okay, that was the first
Speaker 1: time back in what six weeks? Seven weeks? Terrell McLean
Speaker 1: was a good player for him against I think so
Speaker 1: uh and the better They kind of looked like Stephen
Speaker 1: Pia was going to be a guy. And then his
Speaker 1: knee at up right, he wasn't a sufficient replacement at
Speaker 1: the nose tackle spot. Um was the secondary better? I
Speaker 1: mean just about tackling linebacker. I mean you talked about
Speaker 1: the two lineback So I'll give you the one that
Speaker 1: I think if they were going to spend money on,
Speaker 1: and they didn't, it was Bury Church. And from what
Speaker 1: I understand, they've been trying to replace Barry Church for
Speaker 1: years and you know what, they haven't replaced Barry Church
Speaker 1: right now. We'll see what happens going forward here after
Speaker 1: this buy. But I think he had a lot to
Speaker 1: do with helping in that running game and then the
Speaker 1: physicality make yeah, make the combination of not him. Two
Speaker 1: of your top linebackers are out. Sure you're playing a
Speaker 1: handicaped linebacker, sure h and a compromise linebacker. Compromise, Yeah,
Speaker 1: handicaps a bad word. Sorry, you know, and you're you
Speaker 1: couldn't get settled up front right with the with the
Speaker 1: one technique guy, And here we are, and so one
Speaker 1: technique probably been more of a problem than the left guard. Yes,
Speaker 1: I think so. I mean the left guard hasn't been perfect, right,
Speaker 1: but finding somebody to plug that spot on a consistent basis.
Speaker 1: They've been rotating guys in there, you know, and they
Speaker 1: had two people, right Cedric Thornton was supposed to be
Speaker 1: that guy. Well he wasn't. They get Steven Pie and
Speaker 1: it looked like he was that guy, and then the
Speaker 1: knee acts up. Now you're down to David David Irving
Speaker 1: and maybe that's gonna help, and maybe that's his spot,
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, he played awfully well first time out.
Speaker 1: Now we'll see what happens after people say, oh, look
Speaker 1: what he did. He I think he gives you a
Speaker 1: little bit more as a pass rush. I don't know
Speaker 1: about the run playing ability unless we get some more
Speaker 1: penetration plays, right, or if he could just hold things
Speaker 1: up whole thing. That's kind of what you want on
Speaker 1: that spot, right. I don't think MALIEK. Collins has played
Speaker 1: as well. I don't think so either. See, that's another
Speaker 1: That's one of the ones I was kind of because
Speaker 1: I thought that he and I. If you talk about
Speaker 1: all the linebackers Burry Church, that's three players. The two
Speaker 1: linebackers and Barry Church get it good job. I don't
Speaker 1: think the two inside guys have played as well. And
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying when you talk about Terrell McClain
Speaker 1: and and then Collins together and what they were doing
Speaker 1: that gave you a pretty good inside right there. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, how much does that help Malik to have
Speaker 1: that guy next to him? Kind of like when we
Speaker 1: talk about Left Guard and how it impacts Travis Frederick.
Speaker 1: I mean, or does it help Malik to have Sean
Speaker 1: Lee behind you? That that could be that could very
Speaker 1: well be it. Well, Shawn Lee was back on the
Speaker 1: practice field and we will get into all of that.
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Speaker 1: back on track. And we are back on track. As
Speaker 1: Mickey just told you, you know, he said this team
Speaker 1: is missing shan Lee. Well he was back on the
Speaker 1: practice field doing different things, at least for the media
Speaker 1: open portion. We don't know complete one. We'll get a
Speaker 1: practice report later, but we won't get a practice report.
Speaker 1: We don't off. There's no game, no game. They're not
Speaker 1: required I required football. Are you disappointed? Miss those emails
Speaker 1: from Scott? I do like he was out there early.
Speaker 1: He started doing chords and it looked like, um, the
Speaker 1: majority of the practice was going to be for young guys,
Speaker 1: and that's kind of what they've done previously during the
Speaker 1: bye week, like the guys that haven't played much or
Speaker 1: the rookies practice squad guys. They because Whitton was out
Speaker 1: there without a helmet, so he wasn't going to Don
Speaker 1: Smith wasn't even didn't make an appearance, so it looked
Speaker 1: like it was going to be a young guys deal. Regardless,
Speaker 1: we're talking about like an hour pro but at least
Speaker 1: at least a short workout, no pads, but at least
Speaker 1: he was out There's good sign right, and he looks
Speaker 1: good on the chords. By the way, as we talk
Speaker 1: about this next week, Tay, I think your practice report
Speaker 1: should be favorable. I want that, you know, I expect
Speaker 1: that every week. Yeah, I'm just thrown off when there's
Speaker 1: no football. Yeah. So, and there was another bit of
Speaker 1: news this morning. Um, the Colin Conny grand jury no
Speaker 1: build the Damien Wilson case, so they declined to indict
Speaker 1: him on charges of backing into a woman in the
Speaker 1: parking lot at Toyota Stadium and brandishing a woman brandishing
Speaker 1: a weapon not a woman. Yeah, so, um kind of
Speaker 1: had a feeling that's where that was going, especially since
Speaker 1: the Frisco Police Department declined to file the charges. They said, now,
Speaker 1: let's send that to the grand jury and let them decide.
Speaker 1: So they decided this morning about I guess it was
Speaker 1: a little after nine. They know build him, so he
Speaker 1: doesn't have to worry about that, thank you. And still
Speaker 1: no news worry about Simon Ezekiel Elliott's decision. We should
Speaker 1: expect it soon. Yeah, I was. I was betting on Tuesday.
Speaker 1: Missed Tuesday, didn't I missed the Tuesday deadline. So I'm
Speaker 1: just kind of leading the league and be just probably
Speaker 1: listened to talking cowboys them. They aren't going to force
Speaker 1: us to get this down. They've tweeted at us a
Speaker 1: few times. You know, I mean, you guys are really
Speaker 1: smart people. Uh what what if it goes on longer?
Speaker 1: Do you worry? I mean always, I'm always I'm always
Speaker 1: one of those guys about time. The longer something kind
Speaker 1: of hangs out there, the better or worse. I mean,
Speaker 1: people kind of read the tea leaves that way. I
Speaker 1: actually think the longer it takes, it's it's it's better
Speaker 1: for him, okay, because I think if it was gonna
Speaker 1: if they were gonna rule for the NFL, it was
Speaker 1: going to be cut and dried. So they got something
Speaker 1: to think about. Because normally when you try to do
Speaker 1: these things with an arbitration case in you have a
Speaker 1: CBA or a union, they're gonna rule for whatever you
Speaker 1: agreed to in in collectively a bargain, collectively a bargain. Yea.
Speaker 1: And now maybe they have something to think about, and
Speaker 1: who knows, maybe they got more important things to do.
Speaker 1: I would hope they do, right, I'll tell you what though,
Speaker 1: that to me is you know, it's it's it's something
Speaker 1: that you're like thinking during the bye week that maybe
Speaker 1: you would get news on it. Yeah, but it's not
Speaker 1: a bye week for well, no, no, it's not. I
Speaker 1: was gonna. I was thinking they're sitting there eating there
Speaker 1: a beignets this morning. I don't know if they I
Speaker 1: don't know if the court cares about this, but it
Speaker 1: would give the cowboys an opportunity to read group if
Speaker 1: they don't care about that either. Okay, well, I guarantee
Speaker 1: the judge did say what last week that he would
Speaker 1: try to provide an answer a SAP. But again, we're
Speaker 1: on the courts time and it's not and it's three judges,
Speaker 1: so you got to get them all together to decide
Speaker 1: this stuff too. And everybody's got to write their own
Speaker 1: little what do you call it, brief reef or everybody
Speaker 1: has an opinion? Yeah, it could, you know, I could
Speaker 1: one who knows. I don't know. I don't know which
Speaker 1: way this. My gut feeling is just gut feeling. And
Speaker 1: I hope I'm wrong. I think it's going to go
Speaker 1: badly here, as in he gets six games immediately and
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to deal with without him, and they
Speaker 1: just dismiss everything. Now the other option rights, they can
Speaker 1: throw out the case in that jurisdiction and it starts
Speaker 1: all over again and right, which I hope I'm I really,
Speaker 1: I hope I'm wrong, but I I just to me,
Speaker 1: it just kind of reading into some things. It's reading.
Speaker 1: I'm not a lawyer, but I'm just reading into things.
Speaker 1: It sounds like there's one of these Appellet judges that
Speaker 1: is really not either on Zeke side or the NFL side.
Speaker 1: And then now about his decision, it will come down
Speaker 1: to one one man's decision about this. And like Mickey says,
Speaker 1: when you start talking about collectively bargained agreements, you know
Speaker 1: that that holds a lot of weight. You know, the
Speaker 1: players agreed to give the Commissioner's office the power to
Speaker 1: be the final the vinyl say yeah. But also a
Speaker 1: big thing that everybody keeps going back to is that
Speaker 1: irreparable harm phrase. Sure, and they were asked again during
Speaker 1: that hearing, Okay, irreparable harm, but you let him play
Speaker 1: week one despite your claim that that would cause irreparable
Speaker 1: harm to the NFL. So they have to figure that
Speaker 1: they have to rationalize that to this Appellet Panel two.
Speaker 1: And then the other thing is they pointed out was
Speaker 1: Ray went through a whole season, right, and in the
Speaker 1: question was what harm did that cost? So you're thinking
Speaker 1: that you think it's gonna go for the side. I
Speaker 1: think I think they're gonna look at this. I've being
Speaker 1: wrong right now. I think they're gonna I think they're
Speaker 1: gonna look at it, and what they have to settle
Speaker 1: in their mind was exactly what Judge Amos kind of
Speaker 1: pointed out that, Yeah, you have to go with the
Speaker 1: arbitrator's decision, but did the arbitrator make egregious mistakes but
Speaker 1: not allow they allow this thing to be That's a
Speaker 1: fair and I think that's something they got to consider.
Speaker 1: That's fair, you know, was the arbitration fair? Now? Did
Speaker 1: you exhaust all avenues to allow them to plead their
Speaker 1: case and they weren't. They weren't allowed to interview or
Speaker 1: have the commissioner testify, to have uh lease of freel testify.
Speaker 1: And these were the people that basically and made out
Speaker 1: testimony or potential testimony. Right. So yeah, I mean that's
Speaker 1: what Mozunt ultimately ruled by exactly right. That they're right,
Speaker 1: there were flaws in the arbitration press and now they're
Speaker 1: trying to skirt kind of skirt that and say, well,
Speaker 1: they filed this before, they should have been allowed to
Speaker 1: file right, right. And the nflpa's argument was we knew
Speaker 1: it was about to have If I knew my house
Speaker 1: is getting ready to get run over by a semi
Speaker 1: do I have to wait till the semi hits the
Speaker 1: house before I leave any and the analogy, No, that
Speaker 1: was what they used in the court of law. Absolutely
Speaker 1: interesting analogy. Yeah it was. It was. I was shocked. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like you have to wait till the tornado hits
Speaker 1: before you leave, you know. I was gonna say, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not. Yeah, yeah, I don't. They're having problems in Napa. Yeah,
Speaker 1: very sad. All my wine is burning up. Oh god,
Speaker 1: Oh it's bye week here. We're all confused. That's awful.
Speaker 1: I didn't realize it was so widespread. It's terrible, terrible.
Speaker 1: It is terrible, really bad, beautiful part of the world. Hey,
Speaker 1: by the way, did any of you catch uh the
Speaker 1: uh opening of the Las Vegas Nights Less Night? I
Speaker 1: happened to be and I said, oh, let's see what's
Speaker 1: on this channel, and it just started there. It is
Speaker 1: on TV for everybody. And that guy was a mating
Speaker 1: in England. I don't know the Vegas players he was.
Speaker 1: He was watching the stars. He was the guy that
Speaker 1: we played there in the minor leagues and uh ended
Speaker 1: up living there, getting married there, having kids there, and
Speaker 1: he spoke. But they brought out all these first responders.
Speaker 1: They brought out nurses, doctors, and each player led them
Speaker 1: onto the ice and it was dark and on the
Speaker 1: spotlight was I mean, it was unbelievable. And everybody, and
Speaker 1: I'm not being p icole here, everybody in that stadium
Speaker 1: that they showed they were singing the national It was chilling. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it was. It was an amazing And then
Speaker 1: within maybe seven minutes they scored three goals. Oh no,
Speaker 1: that's there. I don't think they've lost on a boom. No,
Speaker 1: they opened with a beating them the Stars here two
Speaker 1: to one. Not a bad not a bad team, not
Speaker 1: a bad team for an expansion group, yep. But some
Speaker 1: might argue that the Cowboys are headed to be a team.
Speaker 1: Hopefully this buy is coming out a good time for them.
Speaker 1: But I want to ask you guys a few big
Speaker 1: picture questions. We got into some different things yesterday and
Speaker 1: there's still some things to be answered. What to do here? Okay,
Speaker 1: So do you guys think that anyone besides to Marcus
Speaker 1: Lawrence obviously leading the league in sacks with eight point five,
Speaker 1: has had a Pro Bowl season yet on defense or
Speaker 1: on the D line. I'm going to say on the team.
Speaker 1: On the team, Wow on the team. And I say
Speaker 1: that because last year, obviously this team had lined you know,
Speaker 1: the entire National Football League with seven des Bryant and
Speaker 1: Shawn Lee were alternates, but you know you had dak
Speaker 1: Zeke the three linemen and uh Shaun Ley ended up
Speaker 1: being there and des Bryant. I don't think the quarterbacks
Speaker 1: got near enough credit. I would hate to see where
Speaker 1: this I was gonna. I would hate to see where
Speaker 1: this team would be at. The quarterback has not played
Speaker 1: as well as he has. DA's been fantastic. I had
Speaker 1: him on their back. The numbers, the numbers don't really
Speaker 1: show it, but he's been under some some really some
Speaker 1: serious pressure, especially with the run game not being that
Speaker 1: run game hasn't been there. He's the team which was
Speaker 1: very good at not dropping the football on him, has
Speaker 1: started to drop the football on him. And so last
Speaker 1: year they were one of the best in the league
Speaker 1: when it came to those numbers. You had guys like
Speaker 1: Cole Beasley that you know you throw at his direction,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a catch. It's not the Coles dropping.
Speaker 1: But they've had some untimely drops in this game in
Speaker 1: these in this season but I would, I would, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't want to know where this team would be. The
Speaker 1: team might very well be like the Giants if in
Speaker 1: fact that you didn't have Dak Press Scott, Yeah, playing
Speaker 1: to the level that he's playing at right now, They're
Speaker 1: just aren't many spots. And right now there's seven NFC
Speaker 1: quarterbacks with a higher passer rating. So if you go
Speaker 1: based on numbers, you know, he's got a ninety three
Speaker 1: point one rating. That's certainly very good. Leven touchdowns. Um,
Speaker 1: but sometimes these things go off of statistics. Give it time.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of time, and Shaun Lee was playing
Speaker 1: awfully well until he got hurt. Yes, I think so too.
Speaker 1: And I think the offensive lineman, I mean, three get
Speaker 1: in every year. I think, especially on the offensive line,
Speaker 1: you create a reputation for yourself. Well they need to
Speaker 1: pick it up. Well, they obviously they do their point,
Speaker 1: but I think all three of those guys still has
Speaker 1: a shot to get in the Pro Bowl. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I mean if you just said right now, week five,
Speaker 1: but week six vote, the one I think of is
Speaker 1: the quarterback not a Zekiliot, not yet not Yep. It's
Speaker 1: just been Yeah, it's been tough tough, not not all
Speaker 1: on him, not all on him, but you know, there
Speaker 1: there's there's issues. You know, It's funny, you can you
Speaker 1: can kind of go around the offense, the defense, even
Speaker 1: special teams. You could go around and pick one or
Speaker 1: two areas of huge concern. Yeah, you know, and if
Speaker 1: you don't correct those areas, then you really, like Bill
Speaker 1: Parcells would say, you are what you are. You know,
Speaker 1: they really wanted to lean on this offensive line, like
Speaker 1: Mickey says, it just hasn't played very well as a group.
Speaker 1: You know, it's not just the left guard of the
Speaker 1: left or the right tackle. What's been worse, And maybe
Speaker 1: worse is a hard word for that, but what needs
Speaker 1: to improve? What has been disturbing? Well, what needs to
Speaker 1: improve more? Is it the run blocking or is it
Speaker 1: the past protection? No, it's really been both. I thought
Speaker 1: I thought Dak has That's because I was just looking
Speaker 1: at that. I'm sorry, Yeah, no, I thought Dak had
Speaker 1: some cleaner pockets against the Packers. But you look at
Speaker 1: those first four games, and he was under more pressure
Speaker 1: than I can remember him being under last season. And
Speaker 1: it's not like it was always pretty for him, but boy,
Speaker 1: he has really had to move and duck and scramble
Speaker 1: and stand in the pocket and take hits. And he's
Speaker 1: done it especially in games. Even in that Denver game
Speaker 1: where they were trailing, he would still continue to stand
Speaker 1: in there and take hits. Um. But obviously you look
Speaker 1: at the numbers in the running game and say, yeah,
Speaker 1: run blocking has been an issue. This is the identity
Speaker 1: of this football team is physical. Is the physicality of
Speaker 1: running the football. That's their yea, that's their identity. That's
Speaker 1: what helps their offense move, that's what helps their defense
Speaker 1: stay off the field. All the things that we know
Speaker 1: about this team, it's their running game. The fact that
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott can avoid I think can allow you a
Speaker 1: little leeway as far as your pass protection. But as
Speaker 1: long as they're running the football, you're gonna keep people
Speaker 1: from coming after you in the in the passing game.
Speaker 1: If you can run the ball. That they mean. Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers got a huge break the other day. I couldn't
Speaker 1: imagine if Aaron Rodgers had to play a game where
Speaker 1: and he's had to a little bit this season where
Speaker 1: they haven't been able to run the football and he
Speaker 1: has just been him, they might have sacked him nine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there were there were. I mean they could have been
Speaker 1: that way. Now. With that being said, though, I just
Speaker 1: feel like though that the running game is really needs
Speaker 1: that that needs to get going for this foot ball
Speaker 1: team because he helps again not only helps the offense,
Speaker 1: it helps your defense as well. It needs to get
Speaker 1: going more efficiently. Efficiently, yes, because it's not sporadic. It's
Speaker 1: like a thirty yard run here and then you have
Speaker 1: two one zero minus one. Right, can't have those, right,
Speaker 1: there's no business assistent. Yeah, it's nice to have the
Speaker 1: twenty five yard run. We talked about it yesterday. When
Speaker 1: he hit the twenty five yard run. He did more
Speaker 1: six yard. He had thirty one yards over however many
Speaker 1: carries it was, Yeah, it was Yeah, what did they
Speaker 1: average on first down last year? I keep going back
Speaker 1: to last year. It's a different season. It was it
Speaker 1: was it was darn near five yards of carry. I mean, god,
Speaker 1: that's that's the quarterbacks dream right there, to be on
Speaker 1: the second and five every time and then third and
Speaker 1: two or whatever you're saying. For last year, I think
Speaker 1: I have it. If not, maybe Kent could look that
Speaker 1: up for us. But now we ran on first down
Speaker 1: or just average first down run first down running. I
Speaker 1: felt that was really good. Five yards of carry something
Speaker 1: like that. We can look. Yeah, you never felt like
Speaker 1: they were really in a whole right way. Rarely Bryan
Speaker 1: would say they were staying ahead of the chains. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the change. I mean, there were only a couple of
Speaker 1: games where you felt like they really struggled Minnesota Giants.
Speaker 1: Struggle the Giants was a struggle. But and he saw
Speaker 1: it offensively that what they weren't able to accomplish when
Speaker 1: they didn't run the football. And I think the fact now,
Speaker 1: if you want to talk about what you've seen from
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott from one year to the next is he's
Speaker 1: had to play clearly under more adversity this year. You know,
Speaker 1: you look at more long down and distances, more pressure.
Speaker 1: You know, he's had to make throws. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: that play he made to Bryce Butler third and sixteen.
Speaker 1: On the play third and fourteen, whatever, I mean, you
Speaker 1: know he's scrambling around, moving around, and then he keeps
Speaker 1: his eyes down the field. I mean those are the
Speaker 1: types of thing to play he made down the field
Speaker 1: to Rod Smith. Yeah, those are those are the types
Speaker 1: of plays you're seeing seeing those seeing him make. And
Speaker 1: that's that's been the impressive thing. Again, credit the defenses
Speaker 1: they've been playing too. We always we don't always give
Speaker 1: credit to the other team, but the talent level on
Speaker 1: some of these fronts that he's facing in the passing
Speaker 1: game and then obviously in the run game has been
Speaker 1: has been really good. Yeah, well, let's take our final break. Sorry, Mick,
Speaker 1: maybe you have a question. They no I was going
Speaker 1: to say next. I was looking forward to your next question,
Speaker 1: I know, because we have some good ones that need
Speaker 1: to be addressed here on Talking Cowboys will be right
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Speaker 1: some Papa Johns baking up holidays. Mick. Now, the guys,
Speaker 1: I heard it on the radio this morning because they
Speaker 1: made me hungry. They were talking every day my credit
Speaker 1: card bills due today, and you know I always go
Speaker 1: to Papa John's on those days because celebrate. Well, they
Speaker 1: have such good deals such you need it because you
Speaker 1: paid your credit card, that's true to make real good.
Speaker 1: They were debating what's your favorite topping on pizzas? And
Speaker 1: so caught my attention. Yeah, yeah, well okay, so we
Speaker 1: had some now here's you're a pineapple guy. I'll eat
Speaker 1: anything pineapple. All right. Well, mister pineapple, so wrong. Bryan
Speaker 1: Bronson used to this is an ended question. What question
Speaker 1: an open ended Oh? Yes, so, and we can get
Speaker 1: to that. We'll get to this one and then we'll
Speaker 1: get to the pool which has options for jars have options. No, oh,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's open. Let's just go. It's opinion based.
Speaker 1: Just to follow up on that previous segment, thank you,
Speaker 1: it says six point six yards averaging on first down.
Speaker 1: I think that's passing though. Yeah, that's good for Russia,
Speaker 1: but that's kind of where they were this year thanks
Speaker 1: to that seventy yard run by Morris. Sure it was
Speaker 1: a first down run, right, Brian. Yes, I want you
Speaker 1: to tell me your top moment from the season and
Speaker 1: your worst moment from the season, and what you can
Speaker 1: expect more of My top a lot. Yeah. My top
Speaker 1: moment of the season I think was the fact that
Speaker 1: they were on the ropes at Arizona. That was looking bad. Defensively,
Speaker 1: they were looking bad. They really weren't getting off the field,
Speaker 1: uh you know, but then things flipped for him. They
Speaker 1: were to hang in that game. That showed you a
Speaker 1: lot of that game is a lot about the coach
Speaker 1: likes to preach about toughness and fight and all that.
Speaker 1: That to me was as good as you're going to
Speaker 1: get right there when everything was going the wrong way,
Speaker 1: you you were able to to stand tall at that
Speaker 1: time and go get you win in a difficult place
Speaker 1: to do. You know your season, you know the way
Speaker 1: it was. But I think that the worst moment. I
Speaker 1: have two but I I and you had green Bay
Speaker 1: on the ropes. You really really yeah, and you just yeah,
Speaker 1: you just couldn't. You couldn't finish the game. And that
Speaker 1: to me is disappointing because it's not often you know,
Speaker 1: when you when you got a quarterback like Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 1: and you haven't beat and you just can't finish it.
Speaker 1: That itself is disappointing. I think the Rams game, though,
Speaker 1: really really really bothered me. I can understand green Bay
Speaker 1: because I gut feeling I picked the Packers to win,
Speaker 1: But the Rams game bothered me. For the second half.
Speaker 1: They had the Rams dead to rights and they instead
Speaker 1: of like they finished the Arizona game, they didn't finish
Speaker 1: the Rams game, and that that that was disappointing to me. Uh, overall,
Speaker 1: And it's it's not just I can't just point out like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's the running game, it's disappointing, it's the pass rush
Speaker 1: or whatever. It's it's the it's the games that I
Speaker 1: think about, because they they they they had, Yeah, they
Speaker 1: had the game at the Rams, and they also had
Speaker 1: the game at the at the Cowboys. The inability to
Speaker 1: finish this is troubling. I would say top moment holding
Speaker 1: the Giants, and we know the Giants now are winless,
Speaker 1: but to three points defensively, Wow, that you look back
Speaker 1: at that game and you thought the way they tackled,
Speaker 1: the way they kept got off the field really impressed
Speaker 1: things going forward. Yeah, yah, that's whether they got to
Speaker 1: get back to um. Worst moment, I would say just
Speaker 1: the most shocking one for me is looking at the
Speaker 1: stat sheet after the Denver game and seeing Zeke carried
Speaker 1: eight times for nine yards like that, that's that's a
Speaker 1: good It's just I would have never guessed that would
Speaker 1: have happened. And they did get behind early and big
Speaker 1: in the scoreboard, but that's just the total the polar
Speaker 1: opposite of what their offense is about, and they've got
Speaker 1: to avoid that going forward. Top and worse, Mick, worse,
Speaker 1: Can I just pick the whole Denver game? The weather
Speaker 1: delay really got to just tizzy awful got home later.
Speaker 1: If I had to pick one play, it was the
Speaker 1: muff punt against the Ramps because they were getting ready
Speaker 1: to put that game away. There you go, Uh, this
Speaker 1: is gonna sound weird, But I thought one of the
Speaker 1: top moments. And I don't know if you would say
Speaker 1: proud or what was the ability down twenty eight twenty
Speaker 1: four to drive seventy nine yards in seventeen plays over
Speaker 1: eight forty three and score a touchdown against the Packers
Speaker 1: to take the lead. I thought that was maybe the
Speaker 1: most impressive thing I've seen him do in quite some time.
Speaker 1: That was right after the pick right now, Yes, but
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott has scored eight rushing touchdowns throughout his entire career.
Speaker 1: I believe I will double check on that most updated number.
Speaker 1: I'll look up. So you're right, Mick, And he does
Speaker 1: score a rushing touchdown at the end of that, and
Speaker 1: I was breathing a side of relief only because I
Speaker 1: trust stats so much here and prior to the loss
Speaker 1: against Green Bay, every time he had gone in for
Speaker 1: a rushing touchdown, this team won win a game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: in a game, so you're betting it. Yeah, you're pushing
Speaker 1: the chips total eight totals, so yeah, you know when
Speaker 1: he got seven to six last year and two this year.
Speaker 1: He got the one against the one in the playoffs
Speaker 1: too though. Sure, yeah, so you know. So it's what's
Speaker 1: really said is we've had more. I think we remember
Speaker 1: the the bad times now more than we remembering the
Speaker 1: good times. I mean Mickey's point about the touchdown drive,
Speaker 1: what's what's gonna be That's gonna be a footnote in
Speaker 1: history one day, seventeen plays and all this. If you
Speaker 1: win the game, that's legend. That's that becomes a legendary drive.
Speaker 1: They still talk about drives. And I know it was
Speaker 1: a playoff game in Denver and on l Way in
Speaker 1: Cleveland and all that, but they still remember drives. You know,
Speaker 1: they remember the drive. It in Denver, and but you know,
Speaker 1: you could have, if you could have pulled that victory off,
Speaker 1: you could have remembered this one. As you know, one
Speaker 1: day in Cowboys, you know, somebody will be talking talking Cowboys.
Speaker 1: I'll be at a lake somewhere and someone will be
Speaker 1: saying how about that drive they had that time against
Speaker 1: against the Packers that want you know, Rogers off the field. Yeah,
Speaker 1: cap Rogers off the field. And yeah, as I think
Speaker 1: and talking to some fans, that game is going to
Speaker 1: be one of the more memorable ones for the just
Speaker 1: high low high right, the emotional roller coaster. It was
Speaker 1: people were just worn out. Oh I know about when
Speaker 1: on set I was worn out. The playoff game was
Speaker 1: like that too, right, I thought. I thought the playoff
Speaker 1: game even more so because they were down early. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it was a constant day we care, we come,
Speaker 1: here we come. This one was here we come, there,
Speaker 1: we go, here, we come, there we go and then
Speaker 1: the innerception and then you come back and do that,
Speaker 1: and then they come back and do that. I bet
Speaker 1: people were just emotionally spent after that game. It's tough,
Speaker 1: and it's tough think about the coaches and the players
Speaker 1: and the front office and all that. I mean, I
Speaker 1: you know that that I have experienced myself. But afterwards
Speaker 1: I just couldn't, you know. And we were worth less?
Speaker 1: Miles and he was. He kept saying, your less was
Speaker 1: his coach, Miles was. He kept saying, think about the
Speaker 1: coaches here, think about the players here, think about you
Speaker 1: know it just the the peaks and valleys that they
Speaker 1: had to roll through in that game and see and
Speaker 1: that was one of them so much invested in it
Speaker 1: and bringing that up. That's what I was concerned about
Speaker 1: the team, right, recovering from that, right, because that's tough.
Speaker 1: It is now maybe the buy kind of smoothed that out.
Speaker 1: You know, you got time to not have to get
Speaker 1: back to practice today and get ready for the next game, right,
Speaker 1: But the emotional roller coaster can wear a team out,
Speaker 1: and you got to hope that you can get over that.
Speaker 1: Baggies after the UCLA game, they didn't exactly come out
Speaker 1: with fire the next week here. Yeah, it takes a
Speaker 1: little while to get over something that's hard. Yeah, well
Speaker 1: against Alabama though, Well what about your poll though, Robert,
Speaker 1: that's always fire. Thank you day I voted you did. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so the poll today, it was something we talked about yesterday. Yeah,
Speaker 1: at the end of the show. You know, if you
Speaker 1: could point to one particular aspect of this team that
Speaker 1: needs improvement or that you could improve, what would be
Speaker 1: and coming out of the buy and there's four options.
Speaker 1: Pass protection, run game, run defense, or takeaways defensively, would
Speaker 1: you have Day said takeaways takeaways? Because there are two
Speaker 1: touchdowns behind your opponents without any takeaways. Yeah, you're the
Speaker 1: bottom of the lead scoring defense they have four through
Speaker 1: five games. Brian thoughts, I'll tell you what I would
Speaker 1: like to see the run defense approof. I really would.
Speaker 1: I think teams, if this team could just somehow find
Speaker 1: a way to play better on first and second down.
Speaker 1: I went up and looked up some numbers as well.
Speaker 1: I just trying to learn. But teams are averaging almost
Speaker 1: six yards to carry on second down. You know which
Speaker 1: is which is near the bottom for the cow near
Speaker 1: the bottom for any team in the league. So I
Speaker 1: think run defense has been just as much of a
Speaker 1: of a problem and needs to be corrected as quickly
Speaker 1: as possible. I would say run defense as well, because
Speaker 1: it spills over to the offense. Get your offense back
Speaker 1: on the field and try to get them in a
Speaker 1: rhythm with their own run game. Mickey got a vote. Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm with Brian. Run defense. Yeah, And I was just
Speaker 1: trying to look up, so what three of the next
Speaker 1: four games are on the road, right, So San Francisco
Speaker 1: they're they're running offense. Yeah, they're twentieth, Kansas City. We
Speaker 1: got Washington after that, okay, Washington, and then Casey Washington seventh,
Speaker 1: Kansas City second, and then what's after that, Atlanta, Atlanta
Speaker 1: third eye. Yeah, so they're got some teams that run
Speaker 1: and throw the ball awfully. Well, you know, it's just
Speaker 1: got to stop one facet. It's kind of like San Francisco,
Speaker 1: even though their twentieth he thought Green Bay was near
Speaker 1: the bottom of the trip. But hopefully again Shawn Lee,
Speaker 1: Anthony Hitchins and you're sitting there going oh, and they're
Speaker 1: top two running backs are out. Yeah, and then Aaron Jones, Yeah,
Speaker 1: lights you up. Yea, the great Aaron Jones. I'll see
Speaker 1: you what the old passo Texas. The turnout the turnovers, though,
Speaker 1: is an interest. That's a good one. That the turnovers
Speaker 1: are interesting because look what, look what's happened when the
Speaker 1: Cowboys have turned over the ball? You know, I mean
Speaker 1: that you know, Denver was a that pick six was
Speaker 1: bad and that you know, you're trying to rally there,
Speaker 1: but that was a huge play in the game. The
Speaker 1: other day. They just have you know, I mean, you're
Speaker 1: turning over the ball and but you're not getting anything back. Well,
Speaker 1: look at that muffed punt. Yeah, the muff punt. May's right,
Speaker 1: I mean that that those are just huge. Turn that
Speaker 1: whole game a walk around around. Sound you vote? That's right? Well,
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, I mean, what if the
Speaker 1: Cowboys had gotten a turnover in that one minute thirteen? Well,
Speaker 1: see that's Obsand yeah, if you've got if you got
Speaker 1: the interstand or maybe standards on the blitz and he
Speaker 1: goes up and it's kind of tipping the ball, he
Speaker 1: somehow catches that ball or you know, somehow you get
Speaker 1: one of the sacks becomes you know, fumble, sack fumble.
Speaker 1: I mean, we know Rogers he gets hit and he
Speaker 1: doesn't fumble, but howbut just keep the guys in bound. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: well we're on the right track. Fifty percent said run defense,
Speaker 1: thirty one percent said takeaways. Okay, did you vote? Would
Speaker 1: you vote? I didn't vote the run defense would make sense. Choice.
Speaker 1: Yet where you lie? That's where I lie. It's where
Speaker 1: I stand. Well he doesn't lie. Yeah, Robert is one
Speaker 1: of the most enterous guys here, I believe so. But oh,
Speaker 1: thanks Day, It's just it's I think you're right, Brian.
Speaker 1: You know, you said a great point. When you're sitting
Speaker 1: here at two and three and the Cowboys have had
Speaker 1: bad losses to the Broncos, the Rams, and the Packers,
Speaker 1: you're thinking more about the bad things than the good.
Speaker 1: Sure out, I mean the last time, the last time
Speaker 1: it buy for the Cowboys last year they were five
Speaker 1: and one. Think about that. We weren't we weren't talking
Speaker 1: Cowboys at lambeau Fied. Yeah, exactly, so think you know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're in a situation where you're thinking a lot differently
Speaker 1: about your football team. But they've they've got issues. They've
Speaker 1: got issues on the run defense, they've got issues on
Speaker 1: the offensive line with their ability to be complete run
Speaker 1: or pass. They've struggled getting open wide receivers. They've had
Speaker 1: some bad drops, you know. I mean, it's just been
Speaker 1: a lot of inconsistencies. Is why you're the two and
Speaker 1: three you are right now? Is the thing He's right like,
Speaker 1: it's not a flukey play here or there. It's there's
Speaker 1: a body of work here. Over five games, they've struggled
Speaker 1: with certain things and it's got to get better. And
Speaker 1: that's what this bye week partially is for, is it
Speaker 1: try to clean up some of the stuff and selfis
Speaker 1: out yourself. Well yeah, fortunately they don't. You only have
Speaker 1: two practices. Yeah, but you know, and maybe it's just
Speaker 1: getting away. Like I mean, they showed up this morning.
Speaker 1: They had a planned team meeting at seven thirty to
Speaker 1: eight o'clock. Um, that was on the schedule on Thursday.
Speaker 1: They have one after practice. Was on the schedule since Thursday.
Speaker 1: And then you know tomorrow that it's early and then
Speaker 1: they're gone. Maybe it's just a mental break they'll make. Yeah,
Speaker 1: four days, you gotta have four days in a row. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you have four days in a row, including the weekends.
Speaker 1: And so were mail back Friday, Saturday, Sunday and Mondays
Speaker 1: that four days in a row, unlike what built parselves
Speaker 1: would pull. Yeah, he'd practice, give him, he'd give him Monday,
Speaker 1: Tuesday and Wednesday off and say, oh yeah, we're going
Speaker 1: to practice Friday and I think on Saturday. So if
Speaker 1: you're leaving town to go to the old Alma Mater,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to pay a full fare on the airline.
Speaker 1: Not fun, not fun, But it is fun around here
Speaker 1: to to have this job, to be able to look
Speaker 1: at this because we will go and talk to these
Speaker 1: players at one PM. Don't know how many will be
Speaker 1: in there, but the locker rooms is going to be
Speaker 1: guys empty. Do you really do you think? Do you
Speaker 1: think I think it's gonna be mostly empty. I think
Speaker 1: there'll be a couple of the team leaders in there.
Speaker 1: And the reason I brought up that team meeting was
Speaker 1: like because it sounded like something. That's when they had
Speaker 1: their talk out. There was reporting that they had an
Speaker 1: emergency team meeting, sure discuss all this stuff was schedule,
Speaker 1: That thing was planned since Thursday. So the players, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think so. I mean, not only you're fighting the
Speaker 1: record to be in two and three, but your own
Speaker 1: your own feelings forever for Yeah, for the I mean,
Speaker 1: maybe it's a good thing and it's happening during the
Speaker 1: bye week. Yeah, yeah, that's true. That's just not distracting
Speaker 1: you preparing absolutely for a game. Absolutely. Yeah. You look
Speaker 1: at some of these guys, like Bryce Butler was on
Speaker 1: NFL Network the other day, and they're able to kind
Speaker 1: of break away. A lot of these guys were golfing. Now, yeah,
Speaker 1: they've all picked up golf. Dak Prescott, Tyron Crawford, Bryce Butler.
Speaker 1: You know, and I think and I don't want to
Speaker 1: get into this. But I think the good thing is
Speaker 1: is that the owners are meeting on Tuesday as as
Speaker 1: a league, and they're gonna in New York, I assume,
Speaker 1: and they're going to come up with a policy to
Speaker 1: make it uniform for every everybody here you go, and
Speaker 1: then there's no, oh, we're doing this, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it'll be a unified thing what the league decides to do.
Speaker 1: And I think that's what needed to We need a
Speaker 1: long time. Give me some directions, that's all it needs. Well,
Speaker 1: I like what you guys are saying. We have a
Speaker 1: few minutes left, So why don't you say the one
Speaker 1: player because we've talked about what they need to improve over.
Speaker 1: But who's the one player that you think can benefit
Speaker 1: most from these four days off? I'll go with Sean Lee.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's an obvious one, but I think they need
Speaker 1: him back so badly, and I think an extra week
Speaker 1: just for a veteran like him, it's just a little
Speaker 1: extra time to make sure that hamstrings right because you
Speaker 1: need him back against San Francisco. Jaln Smith, Now go ahead,
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith. Reset button. Yeah, let him hit the reset button.
Speaker 1: It'll be good for him. Just to get away from
Speaker 1: this for a little bit, you know. I mean, there's
Speaker 1: he's he's played the best he could under his condition,
Speaker 1: you know, and maybe a little rests will allow him
Speaker 1: to heal up a little more. You'll feel about one
Speaker 1: of the most positive guys as you'll ever be around
Speaker 1: in your life. And you know, but I think he
Speaker 1: needs to take a little break and kind of re
Speaker 1: evaluate and see where he's at it. I think it's
Speaker 1: a great thing that we're gonna get Shawn Lee and
Speaker 1: Anthony Hitchins back, because him in a rotation should be
Speaker 1: pretty good. But it's him as a full time starter
Speaker 1: for sixty plays a game. I think that's asking a
Speaker 1: lot for him. And in twenty eighteen, load up the wagon.
Speaker 1: Twenty seventeen, I think you just need to. Now they're
Speaker 1: not putting him out there hurt, but he's having it's
Speaker 1: having to play a ton and I think that's hurting
Speaker 1: his performance. I think it frustrates him. It does. It
Speaker 1: absolutely does. And he doesn't let on. He's never gonna
Speaker 1: let you know he's mad, but you can just kind
Speaker 1: of tell his body language in the field that he
Speaker 1: gets frustrated that I can make this better yeah, and
Speaker 1: I'm not. Yeah, I'm gonna give you two guys and
Speaker 1: aren't that kid, David Irving and Anthony Hitchins. Those guys
Speaker 1: hadn't played a game since the Oakland preseason game, and
Speaker 1: I'll guarantee you they are are sore puppies even today.
Speaker 1: So this will give them an opportunity to get their
Speaker 1: legs back underneath them. When you don't play and half
Speaker 1: contact for that long, you know you can come out
Speaker 1: and play the way they played. But boy, the next week,
Speaker 1: it's your trouble, your shot, your shot, you are so sore.
Speaker 1: So they actually get all this time to recover and
Speaker 1: be ready to go again. And I think those two
Speaker 1: guys are very critical to not only Sean Lee coming back,
Speaker 1: with those two guys playing the way they can play
Speaker 1: to help this defense out going forward. Well there, you guys,
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