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Speaker 2: This is The Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 2: and Gold SNR Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 3: What's going on Steelers Nation Radio. Good afternoon, and welcome

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Speaker 3: to the campus of Saint Vincent College here in Sunny

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Speaker 3: lay Trow, Pennsylvania. It's a special edition training competition of

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Speaker 3: The Drive here with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson. I

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Speaker 3: am Wesley Yuler. The King is in the castle as

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Speaker 3: well too, as Rob King is going to be flying

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Speaker 3: with the boys here throughout training camp. Most of the time,

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Speaker 3: I'll just kind of be hanging in the background, helping

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Speaker 3: course Dale is down at the Omar Khan press conference

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Speaker 3: which is starting here just momentarily, so I'll tea things

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Speaker 4: Much appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Brother, Can I just say a great job by Wes.

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Speaker 5: If anybody had seen that, I'm glad that wasn't a

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Speaker 5: The music got played and we all started pointing at

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Speaker 5: each other, Who's who's who's running this thing?

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Speaker 3: Without Dale here, Sometimes you just gotta grab the ball

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Speaker 3: and go Kinger welcome here training camp. I mean, listen,

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Speaker 3: any of our Steelers Nation radio regulars. They've heard you

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Speaker 3: with Dale and Matt, they've heard you with with Max

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Speaker 3: and Wolf in the locker room. But we're going to be.

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Speaker 1: Hanging out with you here every day of practice for

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Speaker 1: the next couple of weeks. This is exciting. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: beyond thrilled for the opportunity and congratulations on the lead there.

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Speaker 5: I'm thrilled. No, no, no, I'm thrilled to be here.

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Speaker 5: And you know, I'm thrilled at Art Rooney and the

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Speaker 5: And I'm happy to I'm beyond thrilled that that that

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Speaker 1: And I take that very seriously.

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Speaker 5: And but it's also it's football, man, and I love it.

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Speaker 1: It's great to be up here. I mean it is.

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Speaker 3: I know you like the Pirates and the Penguins, but

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, I love me some baseball, I do.

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Speaker 5: And we were talking you know trades. Who are the

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Speaker 5: But you know, I I have a long background in

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Speaker 5: Ramped up more last year with with Matt and Dale

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Speaker 1: So I'm just thrilled about how all of it has

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Speaker 4: I think you're the right guy for the job. And

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Speaker 6: A lot of football ahead of us, and a long

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Speaker 7: You're probably asking about some contracts.

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Speaker 7: I won't talk about any specific negotiation.

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Speaker 8: Or Cam was saying earlier that you know, he doesn't

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Speaker 4: You never know what's going to happen.

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Speaker 7: There's nothing going on right now, so I mean, i'll

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Speaker 6: You know, when you had thirty two GM's conversations always happened. Uh,

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Speaker 6: Well, I think obviously you're going to use this time

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Speaker 7: You know, that's what we'll do.

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Speaker 6: We'll we'll think about it and if it makes sense,

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Speaker 6: You know, Ross is a leader, He's been a vet,

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Speaker 7: Oh, it's been great.

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Speaker 16: There's out reported that the forty nine ers gave Richard

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I have not any any conversations about that. I mean,

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Speaker 13: Pretty is to have the flex only that you talked about,

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Speaker 9: Of your roster is going to be against the cap

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Speaker 7: But we always have you know, a short term.

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Speaker 1: Are looking back.

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Speaker 16: Do you do you feel good about the twenty three

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Speaker 6: That's a good question. I mean, I feel really good

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Speaker 6: You know, it's early, but you know it's it's on them.

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Speaker 6: I mean, you guys know it was It was a

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Speaker 4: The slot opportunity.

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Speaker 15: You know, on defense, Deshaun Elliott was b line lined

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's day one and you know, I

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Speaker 15: You can talk to the combine that Roderick Jones was drafted

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Speaker 7: Expect big things.

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Speaker 4: Out of him.

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Speaker 6: But the one thing about that group is a collective

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, we'll we'll see.

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Speaker 7: What are your thoughts on hard knocks coming in?

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Speaker 4: Do you have much wonders and casual?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean that's just to be honest with you.

446
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Speaker 6: With the other gms, we really have there's so much

447
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Speaker 6: going on that you know, that decision about the eighteen

448
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Speaker 6: eighteenth game, that that happens, you know, at a higher

449
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Speaker 6: level than than I think we're at. So when we, uh,

450
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Speaker 6: you know, when we when we converse and obviously have

451
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Speaker 6: a lot of good friends that are in those roles,

452
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Speaker 6: you know, really just talk about you know, family, things

453
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Speaker 6: like that and obviously football.

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Speaker 7: But yeah, just I really don't have much to say

455
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Speaker 7: about that.

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Speaker 6: You know, that conversation hasn't been a if you ask me,

457
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Speaker 6: is there been a serious conversation about that amongst us? Now,

458
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Speaker 6: I mean I had, I mean if somebody else has,

459
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Speaker 6: you know, we have conversations amongst ourselves, but nothing Yeah,

460
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Speaker 6: nothing structured.

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Speaker 11: Specific players or whatever. But they're other than cam. There's

462
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Speaker 11: a couple of players that hear their contracts. There there

463
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Speaker 11: at least you can negotiating with somebody. You talked about

464
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Speaker 11: extensions being you know, on building right now at this

465
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Speaker 11: time of the year.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I I won't say there's anything necessarily

467
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Speaker 6: specifically ongoing.

468
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Speaker 7: As we stand here today, but you know, this is

469
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Speaker 7: the time.

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Speaker 6: Where historically we've we've engaged in some conversations and you know,

471
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Speaker 6: sometimes deals get done sometime sometimes they don't.

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Speaker 11: Anyone else a more along those lines, is there a

473
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Speaker 11: school of thought that you might want to wait and

474
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Speaker 11: see how this plays out before you commit, whereas in

475
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Speaker 11: years past you might have been a.

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Speaker 7: Little more certain with respect to.

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Speaker 9: Players get extensions or what have you.

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Speaker 7: Is that kind of thing now?

479
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Speaker 6: I mean, I think we have a plan in place,

480
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Speaker 6: and you know, you like to say when you have

481
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Speaker 6: conversations you get them done quick, but sometimes they take

482
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Speaker 6: longer than they have to. But you know, I don't

483
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Speaker 6: think we're necessarily just waiting to see something at this

484
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Speaker 6: point their Stallman is now the longest ten head coach

485
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Speaker 6: in the NFL's eighteenth training camp.

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Speaker 4: Like, is there one characters you think of him?

487
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Speaker 1: Has allowed him to stay in a professionally, stay with.

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Speaker 6: One team as long as he has when there's a

489
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Speaker 6: pretty hyph burnout rate with the NFL coaches. Wow, just

490
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Speaker 6: one thing that's hard, that's that's hard to describe in

491
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Speaker 6: one word. But I'll just say, you know, the one

492
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Speaker 6: thing I've always loved about coaches his passion. He loves

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Speaker 6: the game of football.

494
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Speaker 7: He just loves it.

495
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Speaker 6: And I mean his passion is second second to none.

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Speaker 7: It really is, like I mean, we all see it

497
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Speaker 7: every day.

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Speaker 6: I mean you guys see it. I mean you guys.

499
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Speaker 6: I mean he just he just loves the game of football.

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Speaker 6: I mean he's a great example for a lot of us.

501
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Speaker 6: And you know, him and I are similar in that

502
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Speaker 6: we don't have a lot of hobbies. Right's family and football.

503
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Speaker 7: But his his his passion is it's pretty unique.

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Speaker 1: I know you mentioned that.

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Speaker 17: Uh you know you're focused on good night and got

506
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Speaker 17: the men here and also always an opportunity to evaluate.

507
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Speaker 17: But what about would the window be over for a

508
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Speaker 17: Patrick Peterson who always said that they he would always

509
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Speaker 17: be interested in.

510
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Speaker 7: His own ring.

511
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Speaker 6: Yeah, we never We don't close the door on anything.

512
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Speaker 6: You know, you don't you don't know how the uh,

513
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Speaker 6: the rest of the camp and the rest of the

514
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Speaker 6: season is gonna go. Obviously, injuries come to play and

515
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Speaker 6: different things happen, and you gotta be prepared.

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Speaker 13: Anyone else, all right, you guys.

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Speaker 3: That was Omar Khan at the podium his annual start

518
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Speaker 3: of training camp, addressed there from the Steelers general manager plenty.

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Speaker 3: To get to that, we'll discuss, but first we got

520
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Speaker 3: to get to a break. Westley Ula, Rob King, and

521
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Speaker 3: Matt Williamson all part of the Drive here on Steelers

522
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Speaker 3: Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamsons on

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Speaker 2: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

525
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Speaker 2: Gold SNR Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 3: Back on the Drive here on the campus of Saint

527
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Speaker 3: Vincent College, High above Chuck Nolefield.

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Speaker 1: First day of practice.

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Speaker 3: In the books, A short one there for day one, fellas.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I know it's acclamation period and everything, but

531
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Speaker 3: ninety minutes. I think that might be the shortest practice

532
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Speaker 3: time I've seen in my what now seven training camps.

533
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Speaker 4: Here went quick also because you're excited about it too.

534
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Speaker 4: But I mean, I hate to tell people this because

535
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Speaker 4: the NFL is so amazing with how they present all

536
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Speaker 4: these different things. But it's kind of like the Hall

537
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Speaker 4: of Fame game, like everyone's so excited to see football

538
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Speaker 4: and it's like not as good as you think. But

539
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Speaker 4: the acclamation period, I guess is important, all that good stuff.

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Speaker 4: But it's not like it's going to be next week

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Speaker 4: by any stretch here, you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, mister Rob King is here with us, of course,

543
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Speaker 3: the newly minted voice of the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 1: He's going to be.

545
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Speaker 3: Hanging out with Matt and Dale here on the drive.

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Speaker 3: I'll be popping back and forth. They will be in

547
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Speaker 3: here soon to take over for me as he works

548
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Speaker 3: his way back from the Omar.

549
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Speaker 1: Khan press conference.

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Speaker 3: Since you just heard on Steelers Nation Radio and you know,

551
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Speaker 3: you were laughing about how there should have been a

552
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Speaker 3: camera in here when we started the show, and we

553
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Speaker 3: were all.

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Speaker 1: Kind of you went the ball, I'll take the ball there.

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Speaker 3: Also, it would have been funny during Omar Khan's press

556
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Speaker 3: are there because Matt and I are just sitting here listening,

557
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Speaker 3: you know, picking our noses and are you know our

558
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Speaker 3: hard working colleague here, Rob King has taken notes in

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Speaker 3: his due diligence. So first press conference, first media availability

560
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Speaker 3: there from Omar Khan for this training camp, and this

561
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Speaker 3: kind of turning the page, if you will, to a

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Speaker 3: new season. I know technically that happens in March, but

563
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Speaker 3: I think you guys get what I'm saying. What there

564
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Speaker 3: stood out to you King or anything notable from the

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Speaker 3: general manager.

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Speaker 5: I think two things, Cam Heyward and Najee Harris contract extents.

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Speaker 5: You know, he talked about how he envisions Cam Heyward

568
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Speaker 5: being here for a long long time. So it was interesting.

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Speaker 5: And you know, I just talked to Ben Cherrington, the

570
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Speaker 5: Pirates general manager, yesterday, right so, and they've got the

571
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Speaker 5: trade deadline coming up, and obviously there's talk about a

572
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Speaker 5: Steelers receiver and gentlem managers are gonna say the same thing,

573
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Speaker 5: because it's true everyone wants to talk about the wide receivers,

574
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Speaker 5: but they're gonna say, well, yeah, but I'll upgrade anywhere.

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Speaker 1: On the rosters.

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Speaker 5: Right So, then you know, he's asked about contract extensions

577
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Speaker 5: and I'm not going to talk about those except Cam Hayward.

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Speaker 5: He kind of got to talk about a little bit.

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Speaker 5: So I thought that was interesting that he brought that

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Speaker 5: up in Naji Harris. You know, it sounded like, and

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Speaker 5: again it's hard to judge for sure, but it sounded

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Speaker 5: like the door was very much open for Naji Harris returning.

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Speaker 5: And you know, Najie Harris was quoted as saying he

584
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Speaker 5: likes it here and he understands it's a business. But

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Speaker 5: you know, I liked the idea that one two punch,

586
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Speaker 5: but it didn't feel like the doors closed. And we'll

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Speaker 5: see how it works with Arthur Smith's offense. Did I

588
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Speaker 5: take that a little bit too seriously?

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Speaker 1: Maybe?

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I mean, I will say Omar is

591
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Speaker 4: getting really good at not telling us a lot without

592
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Speaker 4: saying words. So you're getting better and better at that.

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Speaker 4: It is extension season. You know. Something I talk about

594
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Speaker 4: a lot is in the dog days of camp here.

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Speaker 4: I think it goes a long way in the locker

596
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Speaker 4: room to reward somebody with a nice, big extension and

597
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Speaker 4: you know, kind of bring morale up.

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Speaker 3: Like giving the scholarship to a walk on kid right

599
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Speaker 3: right right in camp when raises everybody's spirits.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I could probably give you five or

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Speaker 4: six names on the team that I would consider extending

602
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Speaker 4: right now. I mean Cam and nause are two of them.

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Speaker 4: I'm not as high on extending Nausey, to be honest

604
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Speaker 4: with you, but I think Cam is somebody that has

605
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Speaker 4: to be a stealer and will be a Steeler forever

606
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Speaker 4: and ever and ever.

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Speaker 5: Basically, you know, you would think, though, if a Nagy

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Speaker 5: extension is coming, that it's going to come at less

609
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Speaker 5: than the average annual value. I'm just guessing here then

610
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Speaker 5: what the franchise tag would have been. Otherwise, maybe you

611
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Speaker 5: would have just franchise tag.

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Speaker 4: Yes and no, so vermondre Stevenson just signed a deal

613
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Speaker 4: for me, it's no, to be honest on my decision.

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Speaker 1: No, meaning you think the number would have to be

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Speaker 1: higher than that.

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Speaker 4: No, I wouldn't be super interested in extending him right now,

617
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Speaker 4: to be honest with you. And there's a couple of reasons.

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Speaker 4: First off, Jalen Warren's also up, and you can get

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Speaker 4: Jalen Warren a lot cheaper, and you ca get Nag years.

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Speaker 4: I mean, one of them has made a lot more

621
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Speaker 4: money in this league than the other. I love extending

622
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Speaker 4: seventh round picks, undrafted free agents, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, making a couple hundred thousand dollars right.

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Speaker 4: And the whole Warren family is thrilled.

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Speaker 1: And Jalen Warren probably got fined half of.

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Speaker 4: His and even if they're equal players or not, but

627
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Speaker 4: Warren has less wear and tear on his body. I

628
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Speaker 4: mean to really nerd out. Next year's running back class

629
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Speaker 4: in the draft is unbelievably good, like rare good, and

630
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Speaker 4: that could fall apart, who knows, but I'd love to

631
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Speaker 4: have two backs that aren't the same age extended, and

632
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Speaker 4: to me, I'd be more interested in extending Warren than Harris.

633
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Speaker 4: And then take a step further, like you mentioned Rob

634
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Speaker 4: Ramondre Stevenson signed a deal. He was the most recent

635
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Speaker 4: and I would imagine Harris is a decent comp with

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Speaker 4: me andres with the Patriots. Personally, I think Stevenson's the

637
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,399
Speaker 4: better player, but they're in the same tier. And if

638
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Speaker 4: I'm Nausey's representation, I'm starting there, of course. And that

639
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 4: was ten million ish ten or eleven million ish, which

640
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 4: is right around the franchise tag, which you still have

641
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Speaker 4: in your back pocket and can slap on him if

642
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 4: you just want to do one year. And what's weird

643
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Speaker 4: you know, not to go ramble too much, but the

644
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Speaker 4: fifty year option is kind of an odd situation in

645
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Speaker 4: the league right now because we're seeing less and less

646
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Speaker 4: one get picked up across the league. But you have

647
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Speaker 4: to make that decision well before this whole season, and

648
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Speaker 4: especially at that position, it's not if you're gonna get hurt,

649
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 4: it's when and what if he gets hurt in the

650
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Speaker 4: last game of the season and then you're on the

651
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Speaker 4: hook for the next year. Like you know, there's a

652
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Speaker 4: lot of bad luck right right, there's a lot of

653
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Speaker 4: bad luck that can happen to you and where you're

654
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Speaker 4: on the hook.

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Speaker 5: And by the way, I said franchise, what I meant

656
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Speaker 5: was the fifth year just considered less. So my thinking

657
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 5: was maybe that was the number you were aiming at.

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Speaker 5: Something like that extended out right, because otherwise if it

659
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Speaker 5: was gonna be more than that, you wouldn't you would

660
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Speaker 5: would have already picked it up, right, I mean, if

661
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 5: you're the Steelers, you're gonna that's just.

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Speaker 1: Why pay more when you can pay less?

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Speaker 5: And I think the other thing is is that, uh,

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Speaker 5: you know, you're always looking for trends around the league,

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Speaker 5: but also indicators and pointers and you look at what

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Speaker 5: happened with the Dallas running back situation and what they

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Speaker 5: went with, and they say, listen, our backup's ready to

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Speaker 5: be the guy until and of course he was coming

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Speaker 5: off a serious injury. And I understand that, but I mean, right,

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Speaker 5: but I don't know if if Tony Pollard put up

671
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Speaker 5: the kind of numbers at the Cowboys and Vision when

672
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Speaker 5: he became the lead back, it was a better situation

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Speaker 5: in tandem. And again it's hard to parse that out

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Speaker 5: because of the injury that he suffered. But however, this year,

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Speaker 5: no matter what, you have, the dan right you have

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Speaker 5: and you want that right that I suppose that's right.

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Speaker 4: But I I like drafting one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, next draft. I'm greedy warrant the way it is.

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Speaker 4: But it's a very good tam. I think it's the

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Speaker 4: second best handem in the league. I mean, the Lions

681
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Speaker 4: and the Steelers were the most productive backfields in the league. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So Cam Hayward extension before camp is over? Yes or no?

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Speaker 4: Yes? Yes?

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Speaker 1: Anyone else before camp is over? Yes or no?

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Speaker 4: Pat Frimouth, I mean, I could give you some other

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Speaker 4: names I think are really worth talking about.

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Speaker 1: Well, the two running backs, Pat Fryarmuth, Cam Hayward.

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Speaker 4: I think you know not to go too far. But

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Speaker 4: talking about contracts, it just happened. Quinn Minord signed a

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Speaker 4: really really big deal see the Broncos, Yes he did.

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Speaker 4: I'm James Daniels. I'm going.

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Speaker 1: Extended this offseason already a.

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Speaker 4: Little because he's very young. He came in the league unusually, right,

694
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Speaker 4: they did draft the guard. But if I'm James Daniels camp,

695
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Speaker 4: I'm going rag. Yeah, the things just went out. Look

696
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Speaker 4: what Kevin Dodson just said exactly, and those two are

697
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Speaker 4: better players than him, but he's still ascending. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I would love to hit the market if I'm him,

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Speaker 4: so I wouldn't be super interested. An interesting one to me,

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Speaker 4: and this is well down the road. And by that

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Speaker 4: I mean like preseason. You don't have a quarterback under contract.

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Speaker 4: If you get to work with Justin Fields here day

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Speaker 4: after day, not OTA's I mean, you know, and all

704
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Speaker 4: through a game. See how he handles game day and say, hey, Justin,

705
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Speaker 4: you know, I'm not guaranteeing you anything. You're not even

706
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Speaker 4: gonna start day one here or any games this year possibly,

707
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Speaker 4: But what if I give you ten million and throw

708
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Speaker 4: one year on your contract and we run it back

709
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Speaker 4: because we like you. You know, Like, that doesn't mean

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Speaker 4: you can't go get Dak Prescott draft on the first

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Speaker 4: round or hand it to Fields, you know, but extra

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Speaker 4: year ten million kind of a little better than a

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Speaker 4: Trubisky number, you know what I mean? Interesting over Russell Wilson,

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Speaker 4: because Russell's gonna want.

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Speaker 1: If he has a good year, he's gonna want.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, I'm just saying that for what the cost is,

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Speaker 4: I mean his career right Fields, I think is making

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Speaker 4: eight dishes a first round pick, Like, we'll give you

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Speaker 4: a little raise. You're not gonna have the opportunity, Wilson

720
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Speaker 4: is to show the league what a seventeen game starter

721
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Speaker 4: is most likely. But we would like you.

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Speaker 1: To stay next year you'll be and we might.

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Speaker 4: Give Russell fifty next year because we like him better.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I can't guarantee you anything now.

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Speaker 5: But I'm saying, you know, normally the Steelers want to

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Speaker 5: take care of that before the season. So if you

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Speaker 5: if you're going on that premise, I think that was

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Speaker 5: the premise. West, If you're going on that premise, would

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Speaker 5: you talk to Russell Wilson and try to come up

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Speaker 5: with well, he you know, if he has a great year,

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Speaker 5: he might price his his way out.

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Speaker 1: If he doesn't have a great year, you might not

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Speaker 1: want to pay him really anything.

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Speaker 5: So is there a middle ground number where you're both

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Speaker 5: you know you're the risk is sort of spread out

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Speaker 5: to both sides.

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Speaker 4: Don't think so with Wilson, Yeah, and I would agree, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'm sure we get the break and stuff. But the

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Speaker 4: one thing that Omar mentioned that is unbelievably true that

740
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Speaker 4: I bet a lot of our listeners don't yet know

741
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Speaker 4: their cap flexibility.

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Speaker 1: Is as good as he talked about that he's like

743
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Speaker 1: top five in that league. I mean, but you look

744
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Speaker 1: very rare for the Pittsburgh steems right.

745
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Speaker 4: And there's a cap guy in charge now, and they

746
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 4: don't have a ben contract, but they have unbelievably they

747
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,640
Speaker 4: very little guaranteed money promised to anyone on this team

748
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Speaker 4: going forward and next year's cap. I mean, if they

749
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Speaker 4: want to go get Dak Prescott, they can go get

750
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Speaker 4: Dak Prescott. If they can get anyone they want, you

751
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Speaker 4: Prescott whoever, they just need to figure out how to

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Speaker 4: do it.

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Speaker 3: We will continue to parse through comments made by Omar Kahn.

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Speaker 3: Just a few minutes ago until three o'clock today, Is

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Speaker 3: that correct, gentlemen, this edition of the Drive, I'm gonna

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Speaker 3: step out. Our buddy Dale Lalli is here. He will

757
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Speaker 3: do this final hour with Rob King. Matt Williamson is

758
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Speaker 3: the Drive, all part of our ongoing training camp coverage

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Speaker 3: here on Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt williamsonsh on

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Speaker 2: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

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Speaker 2: Gold CANR Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, we're back high above the well, not that high

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Speaker 9: above the field here at Chucknole Stadium where the Steelers

765
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Speaker 9: just finished up their first practice of twenty twenty four

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Speaker 9: training camp.

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Speaker 4: We're here, dude, we're here about Ali.

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Speaker 9: He is Matt Williamson and that is the Rob King.

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Speaker 9: You lose your the Oh god, no, because I walked

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Speaker 9: down to the field today with this guy and he's

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Speaker 9: signing autographs like crazy, like he's like he's Marlon Brando

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Speaker 9: coming down the field.

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Speaker 4: I go on vacation for a week and who I am.

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Speaker 5: I have to tell you though, you know, if there

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Speaker 5: was any doubt, and I think we'd have to give.

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Speaker 5: First of all, I'm going to answer the question before

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Speaker 5: asking the obvious choice would be Wes Yuler. But if

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Speaker 5: you're gonna, you know, a forty yard dash for the

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Speaker 5: three of us, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I first of all, would be a really really ugly sight.

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Speaker 5: But secondly, I think we have Dale as the winner.

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Speaker 5: He got over here quickly from the Fred Rogers an athlete. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: there was a little more quickness there than I expected.

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Speaker 5: And it's not like he was sweating. He must havespired.

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Speaker 5: But I told the story I believe. I believe it

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Speaker 5: was maybe last week or two weeks ago on the air.

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Speaker 5: So they had me.

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Speaker 9: When the Wild Things came to Washington, I was like

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Speaker 9: thirty one, thirty two years old, and obviously the league

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Speaker 9: went up to twenty seven, so I was over aged

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Speaker 9: to be in the league. But they asked the newspaper

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Speaker 9: if they wouldn't we wanted to send anybody over to

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Speaker 9: do the tryout, and so I said, yeah, I'll do it.

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Speaker 9: And I went and did the tryout. And part of

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Speaker 9: the tryout was a sixty yard dash where they lined

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Speaker 9: us up with like four or five other guys and

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Speaker 9: you did the sixty yard dash. These guys are all

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Speaker 9: guys who are freshly out of college and.

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Speaker 1: I beat them all nice.

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Speaker 9: And I immediately turned around and looked and said, well,

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Speaker 9: none of you guys are making it well.

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Speaker 5: I have to say, even when I was playing competitively yard,

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Speaker 5: my name Dash.

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Speaker 1: I never used in the same sets. Swiftness of foot

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Speaker 1: was never one of my I.

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Speaker 9: Could always be as fast as I needed to be

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Speaker 9: to not get caught. Yes, somebody's chasing me, I'll run faster.

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Speaker 4: The Williamsons aren't built for speed.

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Speaker 9: Endurance.

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Speaker 1: There's a great old Blues was built for comfort.

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Speaker 9: So we get the first practice in today. No Russell

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Speaker 9: Wilson out there. I don't know if you guys have

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Speaker 9: talked much about that.

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Speaker 4: No, no at all.

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Speaker 9: But Mike Tomlin saying after practice today that Wilson woke

816
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Speaker 9: up today with some calf discomfort, and of course I

817
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,399
Speaker 9: had to go write that story then for Steelers dot

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Speaker 9: Com and immediately I.

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Speaker 4: Can't believe he's not practicing.

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Speaker 9: Why is he sitting now at the first day? Like okay,

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Speaker 9: First of all, he didn't choose to sit out. Tomlin

822
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Speaker 9: chose to sit him out. There's a difference there. Secondly,

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Speaker 9: in Russell Wilson, you're talking about a guy who went

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Speaker 9: ten years without missing a start.

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Speaker 4: Oh, durability is a key durability.

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Speaker 9: If you remember the one season he had that finger

827
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Speaker 9: injury on his throwing hand where he dislocated that. I

828
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Speaker 9: think it was the index finger. On his story, it

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Speaker 9: was either the index or the middle finger on his

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Speaker 9: throwing hand to where it was sticking backwards. I remember

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Speaker 9: watching watching the game at the time, like, he's not

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Speaker 9: playing for a couple months.

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Speaker 4: Oh, he was near the top of the league and

834
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Speaker 4: quarterback hits taken last year and didn't play the last

835
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Speaker 4: two games, you know, I mean, the toughness, isn't it. Shoot,

836
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 4: So I do get it. And I even thought the

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Speaker 4: same thing, like it's your first practice. You're the first

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Speaker 4: time a training kid do anything, so good, look to

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Speaker 4: be out there. I'm like, why, come on, you should

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Speaker 4: be out there. And then I'm watching practice, I'm like,

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Speaker 4: I don't know that he would have gotten much better

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Speaker 4: or helped the team all that much these first couple

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Speaker 4: of practices.

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Speaker 9: This was glorified.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is very OTA ish. Yeah they were guys

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Speaker 4: got work.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, they really did. I mean, and not only was

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Speaker 9: it a glorified OTA practice, it was only in an

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Speaker 9: hour and a half long because of the CBA. They're

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Speaker 9: not allowed to go out up to two hours until

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Speaker 9: they had to ramp up to it.

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Speaker 4: For whatever reason. West mentioned this was like the shortest

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Speaker 4: training cap practice he could remember. It felt that way.

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Speaker 9: They didn't even do seven shots today. No, no, no,

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Speaker 9: you know, so it was it was that kind of practice.

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00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 9: So yeah, I don't know that Russell Wilson would have

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Speaker 9: gotten a lot out of the He wouldn't have gotten

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Speaker 9: better coming out of this practice, but it gave them

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Speaker 9: an opportunity to get justin Field some snaps with the

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Speaker 9: first unit, and it gave them an opportunity then to

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Speaker 9: bring Allen up and let him play with the twos.

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Speaker 9: You know, you get a little more reps for the

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Speaker 9: younger guys.

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Speaker 1: Listen, if you're a guy who's.

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Speaker 5: Allen or Fields and you want reps, it's great, you'll

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Speaker 5: take it absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Allen made some nice rows today and showed some speed.

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Speaker 5: Did you see a guy out of the pocket once

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Speaker 5: and turned the corner And a couple of deep balls

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Speaker 5: thrown well by Field. So anytime you can get out there,

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00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 5: get a rapport with your players, get some reps. I mean, look,

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Speaker 5: if you're out of practice, you'd rather be standing around

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Speaker 5: or participating, and those guys are able to participate.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and quarterback participation and reps are going to be interesting.

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Speaker 4: This year. They got two new guys, a whole new

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Speaker 4: quarterback room. Obviously whole new offensive system, which doesn't matter

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00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 4: to whole new quarterback room. They didn't know the old one.

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Speaker 4: But how much do you want Wilson to play at

879
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,800
Speaker 4: his age and how much do you want to develop fields?

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Speaker 4: And I mean the year we was Rudolph Trubisky picket

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00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 4: I thought was really interesting. I mean just head coach

882
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,359
Speaker 4: stuff that Tomlin will handle well, of course, but how

883
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 4: do we allocate those resources to be the best now

884
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 4: and in the future? You know?

885
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 5: Well, I think there's another one other thing that I

886
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,359
Speaker 5: was thinking about today with the quarter back position is

887
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 5: that it's a different dynamic than it was last year.

888
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,760
Speaker 5: Because last year you came into camp and all three

889
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 5: guys thought they should be the start. Right this year,

890
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 5: I think it's pretty clear Russell Wilson's a starter. I'm

891
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 5: sure Justin Fields wants to give him some competition, but

892
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 5: I think Kyle Allen pretty clearly knows what his role,

893
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 5: what he is, So I think it's a little bit,

894
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 5: and again every year changes a little bit, and it

895
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 5: would be interesting to know.

896
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 1: You know, I think at certain positions you always like competition.

897
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,800
Speaker 5: Quarterback, I think is one position where you don't mind

898
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 5: having sort of an unquestioned number one.

899
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,800
Speaker 9: I thought it was interesting yesterday, guys, when when Russell

900
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 9: Wilson checked in and he met with the media and

901
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 9: he talked about his first season in Seattle. He said, look,

902
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 9: I was I was a third round draft pick. I

903
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 9: was a seventy fifth overall pick in the draft. I

904
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 9: was number three on the depth chart. When I got

905
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 9: the training camp that year.

906
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 4: They had just signed Flint, which, right a big deal,

907
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 4: was a big contract. It wasn't like the Cousins deal

908
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:58,919
Speaker 4: for the time, but it was a big deal.

909
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 9: And he said, but my I went into that saying

910
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 9: I'm going to win the starting job. That's how I

911
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,240
Speaker 9: approached it. And he said, that's how I approach every

912
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,280
Speaker 9: camp and every you know, every situation is like, Okay,

913
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 9: I go, I'm gonna win this. I'm gonna be the guy.

914
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 4: And Rob mentioned Alan and I thought that was a

915
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 4: curious signing when they made it. But then the more

916
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 4: I thought about it, I thought, this guy is a pro.

917
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 4: Not that he doesn't prepare the same as Wilson did

918
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 4: as a rookie or anything either. He's not taking it easy,

919
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 4: but he's a pro that probably doesn't need as many reps.

920
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 4: I mean, if you would have drafted a guy in

921
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 4: the fifth round to give him any kind of credit,

922
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 4: he needs to be out there working well. That's I

923
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 4: don't think Allen's going to get a lot of attention,

924
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 4: you know, and that's the beauty of him, and I

925
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 4: don't think he needs it.

926
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 1: Well.

927
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 5: I think the other thing too is that and I

928
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 5: agree with you that signing I thought was interesting. But

929
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 5: clearly the Steelers are a team and this is obviously

930
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 5: sort of stating the obvious, but they go into every

931
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 5: season thinking about or trying to put themselves in the

932
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,800
Speaker 5: best position to win as many games as they possibly can.

933
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 5: I think this is a team that's thinking, Look, if

934
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 5: we need a third string quarterback like Mason Rudolph to

935
00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 5: commit and start some games for us, can he win

936
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 5: a game or two for us?

937
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:06,319
Speaker 1: Look?

938
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 5: No third shrink. Well I shouldn't say that. We've seen

939
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 5: some backups have great success and lead their teams to championships,

940
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 5: but generally speaking, your third string quarterback. If you're down

941
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,879
Speaker 5: to that guy, that's not your year, right, Oh yeah,

942
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 5: but if he can win you a couple of games.

943
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 1: I mean, think about the.

944
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 9: Steelers made the playoffs last year with their number three.

945
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 5: The significance of how that happened. They got solid quarterback

946
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 5: play from Mason Rudolph and it got him to the playoffs.

947
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 4: I'm also interested to watch plumb Lee. I mean, I

948
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 4: didn't see enough of them today to make a strong

949
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 4: opinion or not, but he they gave him a fair

950
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 4: amount of money as an undrafted free agent. He is

951
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,280
Speaker 4: the young guy in the team that you can develop.

952
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 4: So I don't think he's just a.

953
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 9: Draft pick in the XFL just week whatever whatever the

954
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 9: league that was.

955
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 1: Ye.

956
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, well we saw him.

957
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 5: We saw him in OTAs running around showing some athleticism

958
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 5: they're they having. They're having him fielding punts out of practice,

959
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:02,080
Speaker 5: possibly kickoffs as well. I think he seems like a

960
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 5: really good practice squad candidate, you know, a guy that

961
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 5: they can bring along. I don't know, you know, do

962
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 5: they want to, you know, sort of tweak his mechanics

963
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 5: whatever they might want to do. But he's an athletic

964
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 5: guy and We just mentioned that you've got three quarterbacks

965
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,879
Speaker 5: on when your deals, So maybe this guy maybe yeah,

966
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 5: maybe he is right, maybe none of them are back,

967
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 5: and you work with him enough that he ascends to

968
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:25,359
Speaker 5: some sort of position for you next year.

969
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 4: I mean, if he could be a two and two

970
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 4: years from now at the Steel right phenomena. And it's

971
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,240
Speaker 4: also pretty obvious to me that athleticism and this position

972
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 4: matters quite a bit. I mean, you mentioned Alan's athleticism,

973
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 4: but the other three can all really move?

974
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah, certainly that that's one of

975
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 9: the things that they're looking at here. And you know,

976
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:50,879
Speaker 9: obviously you know the position. I can't remember the last time, well,

977
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 9: it hasn't really happened here, but I can't remember the

978
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 9: last time a team has completely made over its quarterback

979
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 9: nobody coming, nobody yet just to sweep that one out

980
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 9: and bring this one in.

981
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,879
Speaker 4: I'm sure it's happened often in the history of the league, but.

982
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 9: I mean even the Jets last year didn't do that.

983
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 9: They still had Wilson, you know, I mean, I can't

984
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 9: think of any instances.

985
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 5: I also think it's and I know, you guys cover

986
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 5: a lot of this ground, and I get to be

987
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 5: the new guy in the room. But you know, we

988
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 5: just talked about Mason Rudolph. It would be hard for

989
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 5: me to think about this team and not think, Okay, look,

990
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 5: I know the schedule is extremely difficult this year, but

991
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 5: you got without any other upgrades. And I understand that

992
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 5: not every position has been upgraded. The receiver position still

993
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 5: needs to be you know, you lose it Deontay Johnson.

994
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,440
Speaker 5: It's hard to think that that position has been upgraded.

995
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 5: I think they've upgraded around the roster. But when you

996
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 5: think about the fact that you went to the playoffs,

997
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 5: when Mason Rudolph, who was the third guy on your

998
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 5: depth chart, stepped in and did a good solid job

999
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 5: at the quarterback position, I don't think it's a stretch

1000
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 5: to think, well, what if we've gotten that all You're

1001
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 5: long and some of that Some of that is not

1002
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 5: just the position, right, Some of that is the coordinator,

1003
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 5: the way things are being run, and you had, you know,

1004
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 5: a young quarterback and picket you're trying to develop. You

1005
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 5: don't need to develop Russell Wilson. You're trying to win

1006
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 5: with Russell Wilson. It's one of the biggest reasons that

1007
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 5: I'm optimistic that this team, even with a more difficult schedule,

1008
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 5: can have a good result of the season. Is because

1009
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 5: you've got a guy who could be going to Canton

1010
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 5: one day taking snaps for you, and you're not developing him,

1011
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 5: and you're you've changed everything around him. It's one of

1012
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 5: the reasons I'm I'm optimistic about this too well.

1013
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 9: And I think the biggest thing is is that and

1014
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 9: he kind of talked about this yesterday when he when

1015
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 9: he spoke to the media. He understands what it takes

1016
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 9: to get you to a super Bowl because he's done

1017
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 9: it twice. He understands what it takes to lead a

1018
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,520
Speaker 9: team because he's done that throughout the course of his career.

1019
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 9: He's not learning these things. This isn't And he even

1020
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 9: understands what it's like to come to a new team

1021
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 9: because he's done that in the past, you know, just

1022
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 9: two years ago and step into that leadership role. So

1023
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 9: you get a lot of things that where he checks

1024
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 9: the boxes for you that you know, he's not learning

1025
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 9: how to be a leader for the first time on

1026
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,399
Speaker 9: a new team because he did that in Denver. He's

1027
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 9: not learning how to lead a team with the playoffs

1028
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:15,360
Speaker 9: because he's done that a bunch of times.

1029
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 4: And the box he checks that we haven't mentioned is

1030
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:21,240
Speaker 4: he throws touchdown passes.

1031
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 1: Yes, it's kind of a big one.

1032
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, they even throw a touchdown passes around.

1033
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 9: He's aggressive doing that and useful.

1034
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 4: You know, it's helpful. They've been pretty low in that

1035
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 4: the party.

1036
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 9: We've talked about that a nauseum matt where you know

1037
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 9: when people talk about young quarterback struggles, that's one of

1038
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,600
Speaker 9: the areas when you get down inside the ten. Oh yeah,

1039
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 9: you know, everything's tighter and it's more difficult to throw

1040
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 9: that and you have to trust not only yourself but

1041
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 9: the player that you're throwing the ball to that he's

1042
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 9: going to be in the right spot. And a lot

1043
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 9: of times young quarterbacks just don't do that, and they

1044
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:53,919
Speaker 9: won't throw the ball to it to a guy who

1045
00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:57,560
Speaker 9: you know, Okay, I if I throw the ball, if

1046
00:44:57,600 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 9: I throw the ball to George Pickens here, is he

1047
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 9: going to come down with it? Well, we know the

1048
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 9: answer is probably yes, but you still have to trust

1049
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 9: out the release.

1050
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 4: Yeah right, I mean, just the lack of touchdown passes

1051
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 4: here for what three four years is startling. If they

1052
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 4: could just be middle the middle of the league and

1053
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,839
Speaker 4: just you know, converting touchdown passes. That's a small thing.

1054
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: Absolutely.

1055
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 5: And then when you look at the quarterback position again

1056
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 5: at large and you compare it to last year, a

1057
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 5: team again that went to the playoffs. Last year, Yes,

1058
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 5: you have a first rounder in Kenny Pickett, you have

1059
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 5: a former first rounder in Mitch Trubisky, you have Mason

1060
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 5: up Nobody there had established themselves at the NFL level.

1061
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 5: Now you're hoping, you're looking for things, You're hoping things

1062
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 5: are going to work out for you.

1063
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 1: But it's not that hard for me to hope. Now.

1064
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 5: Listen, you don't get Russell Wilson if he's you know,

1065
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 5: throwing thirty eight touchdown passes.

1066
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 1: Last year, right, you know, in a playoff game.

1067
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 5: So you know, you're you're you're getting some guys that

1068
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 5: at least optically have some tarnish on them.

1069
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 1: Now, whether that's true or not, we're going to find out.

1070
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 1: But you have got to prove too, Yeah, exactly exactly.

1071
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 5: So you have a starter with something to prove of,

1072
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 5: back up with something to prove a former first round

1073
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:06,400
Speaker 5: choice for whom this camp and preparing for the season

1074
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,760
Speaker 5: is extremely important. Now, I always feel a little hesitant

1075
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 5: to say that because you almost say, like, well, you

1076
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:15,279
Speaker 5: know they someone could interpret that as well. They you know,

1077
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 5: they weren't giving it. They're all until they're no, that's

1078
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 5: not true.

1079
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 4: Or Penny or Mitch had nothing to prove.

1080
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's got a little extra edge there. And then

1081
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 5: you know, think about like you you get Mitch Trubisky

1082
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 5: and lady or right, you get Mason Rudolph late You're

1083
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 5: you're hoping he could turn in a solid job for you.

1084
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 5: I think you have an expectation you can win with

1085
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 5: Russell Wilson and then a pretty good expectation you can win,

1086
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 5: you know, so I think every everything is degrees, right, Like,

1087
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 5: so you know, Alan, can he win a couple of

1088
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 5: games for you?

1089
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 1: Fields? Can he win a bunch of games for you? Wilson?

1090
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 1: Can he win more than.

1091
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 4: A big game?

1092
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 5: Right?

1093
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:48,359
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1094
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's kinda it's a you know, I

1095
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 9: think it's one of the fascinating dynamics of this team

1096
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 9: this year that you know, what are they going to

1097
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Speaker 9: get out of that quarterback position? Because I think, and

1098
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 9: we've talked about this a bunch, I think the roster

1099
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 9: is upgraded across the board everywhere else, and you just

1100
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:08,240
Speaker 9: have to see what you get out of that spot.

1101
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Speaker 4: And all these quarterbacks are unbelievably competitive and hard working

1102
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 4: all the way across the league. But Fields and Wilson

1103
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 4: at a real career crossroads. You know, he may not

1104
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 4: get in the Hall of Fame if things go poorly

1105
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 4: or both these guys might not be asked to be

1106
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 4: starters ever again if things go poorly here, or they

1107
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 4: could shine. And I'm sure Wilson would even be the

1108
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:33,760
Speaker 4: first one to tell you my time in Denver didn't

1109
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 4: go as the Broncos or I planned, you know, I mean,

1110
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 4: there's no way around that, and this might be his

1111
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 4: last chance.

1112
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Speaker 9: Yeah, And so you get that player with that chip

1113
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 9: on his shoulder, and I just think, to me, Wilson

1114
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 9: comes across as a guy who's played with that chip

1115
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 9: on his shoulder over the course from his career. Third

1116
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 9: round draft pick. You're five foot ten, you're not supposed

1117
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 9: to You're not supposed to be a starting quarterback in

1118
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:00,360
Speaker 9: the NFL. That's changed since he came into the league.

1119
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 9: You know, the Drew Breeses and the Russell Wilson's have

1120
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 9: kind of changed that formula in terms of well, the

1121
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 9: little the little quarterback can't play.

1122
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 4: Bryce Shawn wouldn't be the first pick of the draft.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't for Russell Wilson, right right. That's a great point.

1124
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 4: That's a great point.

1125
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

1126
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Speaker 9: I mean he opened the doors for a lot of

1127
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 9: those kind of you know, those kind of guys because

1128
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 9: prior to that, you know, the Doug Fluties. Yeah, they

1129
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 9: had some stretches where you know, the little guy got

1130
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 9: it done, but nobody wanted to hand him a starting

1131
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 9: job coming draft high or draft them high, any of

1132
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 9: that kind of stuff. So, you know, he is kind

1133
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 9: of a trendsetter in that regard. And I think that

1134
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:34,399
Speaker 9: that chip on his shoulder is real, and I think

1135
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:36,400
Speaker 9: you know, he talked about it at his first press

1136
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 9: conference when when he's when the Steelers signed him, that

1137
00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 9: he you know, he thinks about his legacy. And you know,

1138
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 9: you're you're at this point in your career, You're thirty

1139
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 9: five years old, You're gonna turn thirty six during the season.

1140
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 9: You're a lot closer to the end than you are

1141
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 9: the beginning, and you know, you start thinking about it.

1142
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,359
Speaker 9: You know, maybe I can be a Hall of Fame guy.

1143
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:58,760
Speaker 9: Maybe I can you know, have a bronze bust in Canton.

1144
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,399
Speaker 9: And the last to your point, Matt, that the last

1145
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 9: two years haven't gone as well for no.

1146
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 4: No, I mean I've said some there many times that

1147
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 4: the day he got traded into Denver, I was asked,

1148
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 4: is Russell Wilson a Hall of Fame or if he

1149
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 4: doesn't play again? I said yes, Now I don't know,

1150
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 4: you know, like I'm not sure I was right about that.

1151
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 5: You know, well, it's a fascinating season for that regard,

1152
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 5: and I think if we take one step back to this,

1153
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 5: look the most important position in all of sports, and think, well,

1154
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 5: it's clearly to me the most important thing that it's

1155
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 5: going to transpire here for the Steelers. Now, look, I

1156
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 5: know you guys have talked about this, and Dale and

1157
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 5: I talked about it a little a couple of days ago.

1158
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 5: Some really interesting trends. Are you going to have Are

1159
00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 5: you going to lead the league again in fourth quarter comebacks?

1160
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 5: Are you going to be nine to two and one

1161
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 5: score games?

1162
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: Generally? Those things? You know.

1163
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:49,760
Speaker 4: Regrets, Yeah, they move.

1164
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 5: Back to the mean a little bit. Although there are

1165
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:55,839
Speaker 5: reasons to believe that Mike tom Win coach teams could

1166
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 5: continue to be above the norm in those regards, that

1167
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 5: far above the norm that remained to be seen. But

1168
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 5: I think you know, Dale and I were talking about

1169
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 5: this in terms of just the kicking game, Matt, where

1170
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 5: they're gonna pick up some hidden yards there that's gonna

1171
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 5: help them score more points. But that pale. It's important,

1172
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 5: for sure, but it pales in comparison and importance to

1173
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 5: what you can get out of the quarterback position. And

1174
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 5: I'm still stuck with that image of winning three games.

1175
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 5: You had to win teams that were very similar to

1176
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 5: you in the Bengals, a talented roster with a backup quarterback.

1177
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 5: You're the Steelers. You got a backup quarterback. You go

1178
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 5: to Seattle on the road. They need to win that

1179
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:35,879
Speaker 5: game to get in the playoffs. The fact you're able

1180
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 5: to beat teams like that, upgrade your roster and then

1181
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:43,399
Speaker 5: hopefully upgrade the quarterback position makes me believe again that

1182
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:48,760
Speaker 5: this can be a team that overcomes some of the

1183
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 5: you know, the trends that would make you think they're

1184
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,480
Speaker 5: gonna come back to the mean and still put out

1185
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 5: a very very solid product without question.

1186
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 4: And back to Wilson and the fit and all those

1187
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 4: things along those lines, too. I hope he realizes what

1188
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 4: they need from Wilson is rookie contract. Wilson handing it

1189
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 4: to Lynch with the legion of boom. We don't need

1190
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 4: you to be the top three run around make play guy,

1191
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 4: you know, end of career. Lway handled it to Terrell Davis.

1192
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 1: You know, by the way when he won his super.

1193
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 4: When he won the Super right, right, all right, be

1194
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 4: that guy.

1195
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 9: Yeah, that's what they need out of him. We're gonna

1196
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 9: get to a break. He is Rob King. That's Matt Williamson.

1197
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:27,240
Speaker 9: I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to our ongoing coverage

1198
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 9: here the first day of our ongoing coverage here on

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Speaker 9: Fox Sports nine to seventy and Steelers Nation Radio. We'll

1200
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 9: be back with more live from training camp here at

1201
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:40,960
Speaker 9: Saint Fencent College right after this.

1202
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:44,640
Speaker 2: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

1203
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 2: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

1204
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 2: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

1205
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 9: And we are back. I am Dale Lolly here with

1206
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 9: the Rob King and some other draft the Matt one.

1207
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 9: Yesterday's news, we were live from training camp here at

1208
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 9: Saint Vincent College of Steller's wrapping up their initial inaugural

1209
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 9: practice of the twenty twenty four season here not too

1210
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 9: long ago, and we heard from Omar Conday, We heard

1211
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 9: from Mike Tomlin after practice, and guys looking around the

1212
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 9: league here a little bit. There's some newsy stuff type today.

1213
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 9: These are the kind of things you don't want to

1214
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 9: see happen at your training camp.

1215
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 4: I'm gonna hear this for the first time. What happened.

1216
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 9: Rams cornerback Darien Kendrick is feared to have torn his

1217
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 9: acl during practice today. He's a six round pick in

1218
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,399
Speaker 9: twenty twenty two, started twelve games for the Rams. They played, Yeah,

1219
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 9: last year he was pretty good.

1220
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:45,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and he slipped for off the field reasons.

1221
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,120
Speaker 4: I mean, so they got kind of a value on

1222
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:48,800
Speaker 4: the field there. Yes, that's bad news.

1223
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 9: Yeah, bad news there for the for the Los Angeles Rams.

1224
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 4: That defense doesn't have any depth to speak.

1225
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 9: They really don't.

1226
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1227
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 9: Also the Denver Broncos, as we talk about wide receivers,

1228
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 9: they added an extra one point five million dollars in

1229
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,320
Speaker 9: incentives to Courtland Sutton's contract.

1230
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,839
Speaker 4: Oh okay, I thought it was fifteen million, no, one

1231
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 4: point okay. I thought maybe you bumped him up to

1232
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 4: fifteen or I gets them two to fifteen million. Okaya,

1233
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 4: if he hits the incentives, you gotcha. So which is

1234
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 4: you know, he's been one of the many names that

1235
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 4: has been linked to the Steelers. Or could he they

1236
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 4: can move blah blah blah. But that's sure tells me

1237
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 4: he's not going anywhere.

1238
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:28,160
Speaker 9: Yeah, and that, well, they could still still move them.

1239
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 9: They can still move him if they if.

1240
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 4: They decide that, you know whatever.

1241
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 9: You know those incentive I mean in say he can

1242
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:36,440
Speaker 9: reach the incentives here, he can reach them somewhere else,

1243
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 9: you know, anywhere.

1244
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 4: It makes them happy.

1245
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, right, Philadelphia is going to play Bradbury summit

1246
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 9: cornerback and move him to safety. He runs more like

1247
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 9: a safety.

1248
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 4: I was saying, they might move him off the squad

1249
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 4: when it's all said and done too. I mean, he's expensive,

1250
00:53:55,480 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 4: he's old, he had a rough year. Asking him to

1251
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 4: move the safety, it could be great for I mean,

1252
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 4: it could be a life changing event. Okay, you're now

1253
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 4: a safety. He runs not like a corner anymore. Or

1254
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 4: it could be that he was never a fast guy

1255
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 4: to begin with. He's a big zone corner.

1256
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:11,959
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1257
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 4: Oh god. Yeah, So that nothing's been there has been

1258
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 4: good news around him for now?

1259
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 9: How about so the Steelers play the Atlanta Falcons in

1260
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:22,520
Speaker 9: the opener on August eighth, I believe, or no, September eighth,

1261
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 9: I'm sorry. Kirk Cousins has been cleared medically and is

1262
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:33,400
Speaker 9: ready to go from his achilles injury. He'll do some

1263
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 9: modifications to his workload, according to Raheem Morris, and Cousins

1264
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 9: said later told reporters that it is unlikely that he'll

1265
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 9: play it all in the preseason.

1266
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:44,799
Speaker 4: That's not surprising. I didn't think he'd play at all.

1267
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,880
Speaker 4: Why would you show the Steelers anything with him? You

1268
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 4: want Pennix to take every rep possible, for sure. But

1269
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 4: it's good news for them that he's you know, he's

1270
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:55,319
Speaker 4: gonna be out there on the practice field.

1271
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:58,399
Speaker 9: Yeah, but you're gonna be getting a very rusty Kirk Cousins. Yeah,

1272
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:00,359
Speaker 9: I think that game of the Steelers. Actually, he won't.

1273
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:01,760
Speaker 4: He won't going to do practice.

1274
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 9: He wanted thrown a pass in almost a year, or

1275
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:05,880
Speaker 9: a pass in a meaning a game, right right?

1276
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 4: Right? Yeah? Then he's not young, No, he is not.

1277
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:13,319
Speaker 9: Grady Jarrett, who's their big defensive tackle, is coming off

1278
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:15,319
Speaker 9: in a c L. He's been medically cleared as well

1279
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 9: to uh resuming practice.

1280
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 4: And real quick on those notes, Like I know Omar mentioned,

1281
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 4: was it Lowry Holcombe and Patterson quarter Patterson, Some of

1282
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 4: these guys are starting on you know, camp on lists.

1283
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 4: It really isn't that big a deal, you know. It

1284
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:34,319
Speaker 4: is the fact that some of these guys you know,

1285
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:37,399
Speaker 4: got cleared is great. But if your name it does

1286
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 4: pop up on one of these lists, you know at

1287
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 4: the end of July, don't sweat it. It's not like

1288
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:43,759
Speaker 4: it used to be. It's not like a pitcher going

1289
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:44,720
Speaker 4: on IR or something.

1290
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 9: No, it's not unless they're actually placed on injury.

1291
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 4: At that point.

1292
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:50,799
Speaker 9: If they're done for the year, that's a different which

1293
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 9: is what the Minnesota Vikings did today with Makai Blackman,

1294
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:57,959
Speaker 9: the cornerback. He will not play this year.

1295
00:55:58,040 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 4: I think he was a starter for him as a

1296
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,399
Speaker 4: rookie of year. Yeah, a big deal too.

1297
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 9: That's a big deal for them. Hassan Reddick placed on

1298
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 9: the reserve did not report list for the New York

1299
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 9: Football Jets. That that's such a word. It's such a

1300
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:14,320
Speaker 9: curious one. Did you hear Aaron Rodgers today? He was

1301
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 9: he spoke yesterday. I was watching ESPN this morning when

1302
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:20,840
Speaker 9: I got up and they were talking about Rogers explaining

1303
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 9: his absence from Mini camp, and he said, this was

1304
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:26,800
Speaker 9: a the he went to Egypt.

1305
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, a vacation.

1306
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:30,760
Speaker 9: I don't know if he was, you know, embedded himself

1307
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 9: in a pyramid or what he did over there, but

1308
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 9: you know, went into a sarcopha guy for for six weeks.

1309
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 9: I don't know, but he said, you know, they find

1310
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 9: him for it. He was okay with that because this

1311
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 9: was the this was the as he called it, the

1312
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 9: vacation of a lifetime, and he was good with it.

1313
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 9: The fines and everything. Couldn't you have taken your vacation

1314
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 9: of a lifetime sometime else?

1315
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 1: I would think March would be a good time to

1316
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 1: go to Egypt, probably not quite as high.

1317
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:03,480
Speaker 4: Probably not quite as unt I don't know. The way

1318
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 4: I heard it was people blame the Jets, like, well,

1319
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 4: then why you have your mini camp then, like, well,

1320
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 4: the teams are important to one player. I don't know that.

1321
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 4: The way that organization's run, there's always there's a lot

1322
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 4: of Weirdness's a lot of room for air. Yeah, it's

1323
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 4: the most fragile roster in the league. It's very talented,

1324
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 4: but it's old and beat up and there's a lot

1325
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 4: of room for air with the Jets.

1326
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 5: You know, they are fascinating though, aren't they They're still

1327
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 5: fascinating because you have it's and I don't know whether

1328
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers has reached the point in his career that

1329
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 5: say Mike Tyson reached late in his career, where like

1330
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 5: you're still gonna plunk down your pay per view money

1331
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 5: or whatever because it's Mike Tyson, whether he's gonna win

1332
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 5: or not win. We've talked about this that I think

1333
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 5: he's the most talented thrower of a football I've ever

1334
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 5: seen in my life.

1335
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 1: I just think he's he can make every throw. He's incredible.

1336
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 5: But we haven't seen him do that in a while,

1337
00:57:56,360 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 5: and he's not a young man. So they're a fascinating team.

1338
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:04,800
Speaker 5: We all watched Hard Knocks last year. I still think

1339
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 5: that magic trick was the most unbelievable.

1340
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 4: The magic that was incredible.

1341
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 5: But you know, whether whether Rogers to extend the metaphor

1342
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 5: can pull a rabbit out of the hat, we shall

1343
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 5: see this.

1344
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 9: So you're saying that Aaron Rodgers will be in the

1345
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 9: Hangover five or whatever whatever number they're on.

1346
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I don't know.

1347
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:26,640
Speaker 9: Somebody's gonna steal his pet, well it were Aaron, it

1348
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 9: could be something really crazy like his pet three toed

1349
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:30,520
Speaker 9: sloth or something.

1350
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 5: I mean, they could be anything to me. Oh, you know,

1351
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:36,919
Speaker 5: they could be a legitimate contender and Garrett Wilson could

1352
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 5: have an unbelievable season and everything could go right, or

1353
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 5: they could be a four win team. I don't think

1354
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:46,920
Speaker 5: I'd be shocked by either either outcome.

1355
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 4: And spend a couple of years now, but his final

1356
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 4: season in Green Bay was not like the seasons before that,

1357
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,560
Speaker 4: you know. And when they drafted Love, they were slippage. Yeah,

1358
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 4: I mean they really lit a fire under him. He

1359
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:58,720
Speaker 4: became the m v P again. And then that last

1360
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 4: season he was starting to kind of look old and

1361
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 4: throw the ball away and not want to hold it

1362
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:04,959
Speaker 4: in the pocket. Things.

1363
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 9: Now, to be fair, he didn't have the receivers that

1364
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 9: has now no, no, I mean what he has now been.

1365
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:13,439
Speaker 9: But then he brought all those Adams. Then he brought

1366
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 9: all those receivers except for Adams with him in New York,

1367
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:18,480
Speaker 9: Cobb and all his buddies.

1368
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 4: Right right right. So interesting team though, and it would

1369
00:59:22,560 --> 00:59:24,240
Speaker 4: scare the heck out of me to have everything hinge

1370
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:27,240
Speaker 4: on him. I mean that's the thing, and that's that's

1371
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 4: the case for many quarterbacks. But they're not in their

1372
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 4: forties coming off a massive injury.

1373
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 9: Yeah, well, speaking of guys who are, well, he's almost

1374
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 9: in his forties. Trent Williams was also placed on the

1375
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 9: reserve did not report list today, Okay, and he wants

1376
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 9: more money. He has no guaranteed money past this season.

1377
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:49,480
Speaker 9: He's still very arguably the best left tackle in the league.

1378
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 9: You know, the forty he doesn't need camp. I mean,

1379
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:55,160
Speaker 9: I get that part of it, right, But the forty

1380
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 9: nine ers.

1381
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 4: He's getting sticky there.

1382
00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 9: Financially, it is getting I mean, because you know you

1383
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 9: got to pay per at the end of the year.

1384
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 9: Presumably you thing you want some money, right, Trent Williams

1385
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 9: wants some money.

1386
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:10,840
Speaker 4: And to me, you're a super successful organization, wins a

1387
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 4: lot of games.

1388
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 9: The guy that you can't live without is Williams.

1389
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:17,919
Speaker 4: Is Williams right. The big thing schematically that they do

1390
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 4: is they ignore four fifths of their offensive line and

1391
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 4: scheme it up. You know, where to get the ball out.

1392
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 4: Who's gonna blitz us with our weapons. But Trent, you've

1393
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 4: got that defensive end who could be Miles Garrett or

1394
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 4: you might have.

1395
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:32,920
Speaker 9: Him and then chip off and get something, you know,

1396
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 9: get somebody else.

1397
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 4: You were not helping you at all because.

1398
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 9: You're going to throw that guy out of the bar

1399
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:39,479
Speaker 9: and he hammers somebody else.

1400
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 4: He's as important as anyone on the team.

1401
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 5: They're getting to that interesting position though, and we're seeing,

1402
01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 5: like with the Buffalo Bills, you're just I mean, how

1403
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 5: many Pro bowlers can you hemorrhage year after year? And

1404
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 5: they haven't won it yet, right, you know what I mean?

1405
01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:55,040
Speaker 5: You're in it to win it. The forty are in

1406
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 5: it to win it. And but at some point when

1407
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 5: you continue to lose great players, what you have to

1408
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 5: be able to do is draft well behind it. That's

1409
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 5: one of the things that I think, again getting back

1410
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 5: to this years has always been incredible about them, the

1411
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:11,520
Speaker 5: ability to continue to draft to find the Cam Haywards,

1412
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 5: the t J.

1413
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:15,680
Speaker 1: Watts, uh, maybe the Keanu Benton's or the.

1414
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 5: Joey Porter juniors late in drafts where you know, Dale

1415
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 5: and I did the exercise of the redraft and Joey

1416
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:25,960
Speaker 5: Porter was what tenth overall like that somewhere as opposed

1417
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 5: to Roderick.

1418
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:29,240
Speaker 9: Jones was like six team got these guys are and

1419
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 9: you know, Keanu Benton was was one of the top

1420
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 9: thirty two.

1421
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 5: But you know, they all all these leagues are designed

1422
01:01:36,320 --> 01:01:39,920
Speaker 5: to create churn. They're designed to not allow your team

1423
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 5: to be down for too long, right, especially when you

1424
01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 5: have a salary cap. Baseball is a little bit different

1425
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 5: because the salary cap. You know, there's no salary cap,

1426
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 5: so it's an issue. But when there's a salary cap

1427
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:52,920
Speaker 5: and you're drafting, the idea is you rise up, you

1428
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 5: fall down, You rise up, you fall down, but you're

1429
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 5: never too You're never down for too far to give

1430
01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 5: your fans a break. Obviously that doesn't work out that

1431
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:03,160
Speaker 5: way because some organizations are run better than others. But

1432
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 5: the forty nine ers are. This is going to be

1433
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 5: I think a fascinating year for the Buffalo Bills. Can

1434
01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 5: they maintain with losing more players again.

1435
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, I wanted to bring up I'm glad you brought

1436
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 4: up the Bills. I mean, that's I mean, they are

1437
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 4: undoubtedly one of the most successful five franchises over the

1438
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:21,160
Speaker 4: last five years, but they.

1439
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 9: Don't have a rank you know, and right, and they.

1440
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 4: Were really close, and there's some breaks that could have

1441
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:27,240
Speaker 4: went their way that maybe they would have ended up

1442
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 4: with one. They undoubtedly have a superstar quarterback. There's only

1443
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:32,680
Speaker 4: one guy on the planet on takeover Allen, and we

1444
01:02:32,720 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 4: know that who that is. That's Mahomes. But now all

1445
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 4: those guys are gone, you know, Mitch Morres, both safeties.

1446
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:41,600
Speaker 4: You know, they've lost Edmunds a year before they had

1447
01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:44,880
Speaker 4: Trade Diggs. I mean, it's chapter two in the Josh

1448
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:47,400
Speaker 4: Allen saga, and he has less around him than he

1449
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:48,240
Speaker 4: ever did.

1450
01:02:48,480 --> 01:02:51,720
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, and that's you know that when people talk,

1451
01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 9: when Steeler fans talk about Ben Roethlisberger should have won,

1452
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:57,959
Speaker 9: they wasted so many years of Ben Roethlibger. He should

1453
01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 9: have won multiple, you know, six super Bowls or whatever

1454
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:02,680
Speaker 9: whatever number you want to throw out there, and like

1455
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:08,240
Speaker 9: that team that he's that he started with and they

1456
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 9: can continue to build on it.

1457
01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 4: You know, in the.

1458
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 9: Early late Cowary years, early Tomlin years, and then you know,

1459
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 9: some of those guys to your you know the same thing.

1460
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 9: Some of those guys started to age out, and the

1461
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 9: quarterback gets more expensive, and the quarterback gets more expensive,

1462
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 9: and you're picking at the bottom of the first round,

1463
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 9: in the bottom of the second round, and it's tough

1464
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 9: to replace those guys.

1465
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:28,320
Speaker 4: And that's what was remarkable the Chiefs to me because

1466
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 4: I think they took a step back year the year

1467
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:32,920
Speaker 4: they traded Tyreek, and they still want to Super.

1468
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 5: Bowl, right, That's that is the power of Patrick Mahomes

1469
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 5: and great coaching and some of the things you're able

1470
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:38,960
Speaker 5: to do.

1471
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 9: But we also still weren't paying him.

1472
01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:43,840
Speaker 4: His contract has been almost like Brady's, where it's a

1473
01:03:43,880 --> 01:03:46,480
Speaker 4: lot more manageable than his greatness implies.

1474
01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:48,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, well, I think one of the other things too,

1475
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:53,760
Speaker 1: And again this is cautionary for fans is that Buffalo

1476
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 1: went what twenty years with out of winning records. I mean, yeah,

1477
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:01,919
Speaker 1: just oh sure bismal teams. But everybody says, well, let's

1478
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:02,480
Speaker 1: go forward to.

1479
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:06,440
Speaker 5: Win a championship. Well, I'm sorry, that championship is not guaranteed.

1480
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 5: Look at Buffalo, they're all in. We're they're all in. There,

1481
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 5: they're reaching that point of the all in. But Buffalo,

1482
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 5: are they on the other side all in? And again

1483
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:19,560
Speaker 5: we're gonna find out. So you lose for twenty years

1484
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:21,960
Speaker 5: you say, okay, we're all in. This is what we're

1485
01:04:21,960 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 5: gonna do and the forty nine ers. I think there

1486
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:27,240
Speaker 5: could potentially be, you know, somewhere in between the Browns

1487
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:30,480
Speaker 5: and where the Bills are on their trajectory. But are

1488
01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 5: you is it? Is it gonna slip away without you

1489
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:36,320
Speaker 5: winning a championship? I mean, just because you're going all in.

1490
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 5: And I'm not suggesting that teams don't go all in

1491
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:42,400
Speaker 5: and don't try to win, but just because there's going

1492
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:44,720
Speaker 5: all in, yeah, for the window, doesn't mean you're gonna

1493
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:45,120
Speaker 5: win at all.

1494
01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 9: Saints or another example that they went. They did it

1495
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:49,439
Speaker 9: year after year after year, kept kicking the can down

1496
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 9: the road, and you know, now their roster looks really old,

1497
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 9: it's still expensive and nobody.

1498
01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 4: Thinks of Saints are media this year?

1499
01:04:58,600 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1500
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:02,000
Speaker 4: Right right? So an exercise we do sometimes that I'd

1501
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 4: like to throw back out to the fans listening, and

1502
01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:06,440
Speaker 4: it goes back to Ben should have won a lot

1503
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:08,920
Speaker 4: more like if I asked you just blatantly, you know,

1504
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 4: do you think Josh Allen's gonna ever gonna win a

1505
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:11,280
Speaker 4: Super Bowl?

1506
01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1507
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 4: Probably, he's awesome. Well what about Joe Burrow, Yeah he's

1508
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 4: pretty great. How about Lamar Jackson, Yeah, he probably will

1509
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 4: win one. Right, No, they're not. Yeah, I mean, like

1510
01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:23,800
Speaker 4: there's only so many to go around, and Mahomes isn't

1511
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:26,680
Speaker 4: retiring anytime soon, let alone the herbert I'm just talking

1512
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:29,000
Speaker 4: about the AFC, you know, Let alone the Herberts and

1513
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:31,520
Speaker 4: the Watson's and the Tua's and you know all those

1514
01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:35,520
Speaker 4: guys too, or whoever's drafted this year. Like those guys,

1515
01:05:35,560 --> 01:05:37,920
Speaker 4: if you get one, it's a big deal. Breeze has one,

1516
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 4: Rogers has won.

1517
01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 5: You know, it's really really hard to win it. Ben

1518
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:45,120
Speaker 5: went to three and one two. Yeah, that's that's a

1519
01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 5: pretty dark It's.

1520
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 9: A very short list of guys quarterback their teams to

1521
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:52,280
Speaker 9: three Super Bowls, Like if you have it's a very

1522
01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:56,000
Speaker 9: short list of quarterbacks who've won two. Yeah, I mean,

1523
01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:56,880
Speaker 9: it just doesn't happen.

1524
01:05:56,920 --> 01:05:59,000
Speaker 5: And not to take anything away from the Steelers of

1525
01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 5: the seventies, credible Chuck Noll, the right guy in the

1526
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:06,000
Speaker 5: right time, you know, Bill Nunn, you know Art Rooney

1527
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 5: Junior running that scouting department and what they're able to

1528
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:10,960
Speaker 5: get way out ahead of teams.

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01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:14,200
Speaker 1: But then the ability to keep those players, yeah, right,

1530
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 1: they were. There were so many of them there that

1531
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 1: were there for four of them.

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01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean think about it, Lambert, Shell, Webby, Stalworth

1533
01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:25,360
Speaker 4: and Swan would have all become free agency the same year. Yeah, right,

1534
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:27,440
Speaker 4: Like you don't think somebody would have company.

1535
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:29,800
Speaker 5: That's what Buffalo is going through now without having won

1536
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 5: the championship first.

1537
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 4: Right, that's the thing.

1538
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:36,000
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's you know, it's it's not easy and and uh,

1539
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 9: you know.

1540
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 4: And if Mahomes is, Brady doesn't leave many for anything

1541
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:42,520
Speaker 4: else and he's close to being done.

1542
01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:44,560
Speaker 9: Yeah, you've got a guy who's in his prime. The

1543
01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:47,320
Speaker 9: interesting thing to me with with Mahomes is what happens.

1544
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:49,080
Speaker 9: I know, you think that was a reset when they

1545
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:54,040
Speaker 9: traded Tyreek, But what happens when Chris Jones and.

1546
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:56,120
Speaker 4: Kelsey Kelsey's not there for long? Right right? Right?

1547
01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:58,400
Speaker 9: No, that's when that's that I think is when things

1548
01:06:58,520 --> 01:07:00,440
Speaker 9: kind of reset, and that's when it's all in al.

1549
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:02,360
Speaker 4: On Mahomes yep. I mean. And when they did that

1550
01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:06,040
Speaker 4: Tyreek reset, that's when they invested in offensive Lineman, you know,

1551
01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:09,400
Speaker 4: because that that Tampa Bay super Bowl they just would

1552
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 4: not allow happening again where he got hit in one

1553
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:14,080
Speaker 4: point two seconds every time. And then they developed a

1554
01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:15,920
Speaker 4: bunch of good defensive backs too, you know, like some

1555
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 4: of it's just roster development and coaching. You know.

1556
01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 9: The interesting thing now is, though, guys, and we've seen

1557
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:25,720
Speaker 9: this really with the last two drafts. With the nil

1558
01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:29,760
Speaker 9: money that is now keeping kids in college longer, and

1559
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:32,960
Speaker 9: so your drafts aren't quite as deep. You're not going

1560
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:35,479
Speaker 9: to see as many you know, fifth, sixth, seventh round

1561
01:07:35,480 --> 01:07:39,440
Speaker 9: picks who make an impact because those guys are you know, realistically,

1562
01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:42,360
Speaker 9: your your drafts are really top heavy, and I think

1563
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:44,040
Speaker 9: that's what the Steelers have done a good job of

1564
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:46,080
Speaker 9: the last couple of years is loading up on some

1565
01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:48,760
Speaker 9: of those you know, around those first two day picks.

1566
01:07:48,760 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 4: So I think that's a massively underreported thing that happened

1567
01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:55,240
Speaker 4: this offseason is the Deontae trade, in the Picket trade,

1568
01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:59,520
Speaker 4: those move ups later in the draft. Everyone's like, Okay,

1569
01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:02,480
Speaker 4: they went from one hundred and twenty to ninety or whatever.

1570
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:04,120
Speaker 4: They got out of bad part.

1571
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:06,360
Speaker 9: Get out of the free agent. Right, you're drafting guys

1572
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 9: who should be free agents.

1573
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 4: Nobody wants six and seventh picks, Yeah, picks anymore. I mean,

1574
01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:12,720
Speaker 4: if you can get in the top five from the seventh,

1575
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:15,200
Speaker 4: that's a big, huge it's way more than it used

1576
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:15,400
Speaker 4: to be.

1577
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:18,280
Speaker 5: Now, I would think though, guys, by the way, so

1578
01:08:18,360 --> 01:08:20,559
Speaker 5: have to say, well, now we'll see what happens with

1579
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:22,559
Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes after Kelsey's good.

1580
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:27,519
Speaker 1: He's already won three. Yeah, Yeah, he's already won three. Yeah.

1581
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:29,800
Speaker 5: And I think that we could spend a whole show

1582
01:08:29,840 --> 01:08:33,320
Speaker 5: talking about Patrick Mahomes because I think his adaptability. I mean,

1583
01:08:33,360 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 5: I think that there's a certain ego that comes with

1584
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 5: that position, and he not only is all great, but

1585
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:42,519
Speaker 5: he is just so adaptable to whatever they need to do.

1586
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:45,840
Speaker 5: But I do wonder so like COVID was a big thing, right,

1587
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:47,800
Speaker 5: so now all of a sudden, you're getting sixty year

1588
01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:50,599
Speaker 5: guys and you're drafting guys that are twenty four, twenty

1589
01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:51,599
Speaker 5: five years old.

1590
01:08:52,280 --> 01:08:54,280
Speaker 4: But finally done with that this draft coming up.

1591
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:57,200
Speaker 5: So when it's the old guys, I would think at

1592
01:08:57,240 --> 01:09:01,519
Speaker 5: some point the nil thing would catch up, right, Like

1593
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:03,640
Speaker 5: if it's if there's gonna be some consistency to it,

1594
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:05,160
Speaker 5: I think, what you are going to stay there for

1595
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:07,479
Speaker 5: four years because they're getting the money, Well that just

1596
01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 5: is at some point that they'll it'll reset itself.

1597
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:14,639
Speaker 9: I think what's happening is is you've got Guys. Let's

1598
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:16,800
Speaker 9: say I'm an underclassman and I'm gonna be a third

1599
01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:19,479
Speaker 9: or fourth round draft pick. I'm not a Day one

1600
01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:23,439
Speaker 9: or early day two guy, and I can make five

1601
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:26,840
Speaker 9: or six hundred grand staying in school and maybe be

1602
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:29,479
Speaker 9: a first round pick next year, and big man on campus,

1603
01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:31,959
Speaker 9: big man on campus another year. I got a nice apartment,

1604
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:34,680
Speaker 9: you know, you're living large. I got a car that

1605
01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:37,040
Speaker 9: they gave me. I'm staying in school that year. So

1606
01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:39,840
Speaker 9: then that that just kills the depth of that draft.

1607
01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 9: Now I'm gonna come out next year, but this is

1608
01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:44,559
Speaker 9: already like now, next year, I'm the first round guy,

1609
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:46,720
Speaker 9: and the next guy who is a third round guy

1610
01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:49,920
Speaker 9: or a fourth round guy the same thing. Because schools

1611
01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:51,680
Speaker 9: are making it very lucrative.

1612
01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:53,360
Speaker 4: Especially if they're heavily recruited to begin with, right, and

1613
01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:55,000
Speaker 4: then you keep getting the money, you know, not like

1614
01:09:55,000 --> 01:09:56,080
Speaker 4: they come from nowhere. Guys.

1615
01:09:56,120 --> 01:09:57,720
Speaker 5: Now, I will say this so that not every third

1616
01:09:57,800 --> 01:09:59,360
Speaker 5: rounder is going to be a first rounder, So I

1617
01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:01,479
Speaker 5: would think it's point. I guess my point is that

1618
01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:03,439
Speaker 5: that third rounder this year who's going to be a

1619
01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:06,120
Speaker 5: third rounder next year, well, he's gonna run out of

1620
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:06,479
Speaker 5: years he.

1621
01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:07,439
Speaker 1: Could stay in school.

1622
01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:10,320
Speaker 5: So I would think at some point, even if there's

1623
01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:13,120
Speaker 5: a little bit of a fall off moving forward because

1624
01:10:13,160 --> 01:10:15,120
Speaker 5: of this, at some point I think it would stabilize.

1625
01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:17,440
Speaker 5: I think this is going to be a year phenomenon

1626
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:19,000
Speaker 5: and it's going to catch up a little bit.

1627
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:20,920
Speaker 9: I would a little bit, but maybe. I mean, I

1628
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:22,840
Speaker 9: just don't know that the drafts are going to be

1629
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:26,479
Speaker 9: as deep as they have been in some previous years.

1630
01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:30,040
Speaker 9: You may have pockets of certain positions to your point

1631
01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:33,599
Speaker 9: about the running backs earlier in the show, but I

1632
01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:35,559
Speaker 9: just think some positions are going to be a little

1633
01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:38,760
Speaker 9: lacking because so and so stayed in school, that the

1634
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:42,759
Speaker 9: offensive tackle from Penn State stayed in school in extra area,

1635
01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 9: because why not he would have been a first round

1636
01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:49,160
Speaker 9: draft pick last year before Nil. Yeah, out for sure,

1637
01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:51,960
Speaker 9: Oh absolutely. The one thing I do think is clear

1638
01:10:52,280 --> 01:10:54,759
Speaker 9: is if we were to write a book one hundred

1639
01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:58,200
Speaker 9: years from now, the history of the NFL Draft from

1640
01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:02,439
Speaker 9: twenty nineteen to twenty twenty five is the wild wild West,

1641
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:04,280
Speaker 9: and it used to.

1642
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:06,240
Speaker 4: Be the same for a long ways, and then the

1643
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 4: couple changes here and there. I'm not sure any team

1644
01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:11,320
Speaker 4: has a real firm hold of what's gone on lately.

1645
01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:13,719
Speaker 5: You know, I can't wait for us in twenty seventy

1646
01:11:13,720 --> 01:11:15,280
Speaker 5: five to circle back and write that book.

1647
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:19,439
Speaker 4: I'm nothing to do. Yea one's happened anymore.

1648
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:23,439
Speaker 9: But to that point, and the Steelers draft class this year,

1649
01:11:23,479 --> 01:11:26,760
Speaker 9: I know Mike tom was asked yesterday, you know, are

1650
01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:30,080
Speaker 9: you gonna slow play things with your draft class this year? Well,

1651
01:11:30,120 --> 01:11:31,719
Speaker 9: this year's draft class is much older.

1652
01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:33,240
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think that's interesting too, And.

1653
01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:35,880
Speaker 9: So these guys have played a lot of football. Yeah,

1654
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:38,559
Speaker 9: whereas you look at Roderick Jones had nineteen career starts

1655
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:42,519
Speaker 9: in college. Well, you know Zach Fraser at fifty four.

1656
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:44,280
Speaker 4: Well, here's the other side of it, in which we'll

1657
01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 4: talk about. I bet a ton the next couple of weeks,

1658
01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:49,519
Speaker 4: draft and develop is dying because these guys don't practice

1659
01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:50,960
Speaker 4: as much. You know, if you're in a draft of

1660
01:11:51,040 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 4: nineteen twenty year old and develop them, I mean, you

1661
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:55,559
Speaker 4: don't have much time to do it.

1662
01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:59,920
Speaker 5: I think that's a great point and interesting to see

1663
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:02,800
Speaker 5: how it will inform drafts. But again, I still think

1664
01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:05,479
Speaker 5: at this stage Dale and Manning correct me if I'm wrong,

1665
01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:07,519
Speaker 5: but are we now reaching the tail end of these

1666
01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:08,439
Speaker 5: COVID guys?

1667
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:08,920
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1668
01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:10,679
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think this was the last year.

1669
01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:13,720
Speaker 5: Again, affect that moving forward, where guys are going to

1670
01:12:13,760 --> 01:12:16,800
Speaker 5: continue drafts will get younger. Yeah, but but yeah, right,

1671
01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:20,360
Speaker 5: the whole idea of developing guys. I think that's a

1672
01:12:20,479 --> 01:12:23,000
Speaker 5: fascinating point because I think the Steels were autae that

1673
01:12:23,080 --> 01:12:24,760
Speaker 5: loved the draft younger.

1674
01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:27,800
Speaker 4: You know, absolutely have somebody behind Jason Gilden and all

1675
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:28,360
Speaker 4: those guys.

1676
01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:30,160
Speaker 9: You know, and and when you're picking at the bottom

1677
01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:32,120
Speaker 9: of the first round, often that's who you get. You're taking.

1678
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:35,080
Speaker 9: You know, you're not getting the fully well he's fully developed,

1679
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:37,120
Speaker 9: he's ready to play. You're getting a guy who's you're

1680
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:38,080
Speaker 9: drafting on potential.

1681
01:12:38,600 --> 01:12:41,280
Speaker 4: Taking Peyton Wilson, like, this guy was one of the

1682
01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:44,080
Speaker 4: best defensive players in the league or in college. He's

1683
01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:46,720
Speaker 4: not young, he has injury concerns. It might be like,

1684
01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:49,800
Speaker 4: let's get him on the field for four years. And

1685
01:12:49,840 --> 01:12:51,519
Speaker 4: I'm not worried about tomorrow, you know, I mean, just

1686
01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:52,040
Speaker 4: let's go.

1687
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:56,519
Speaker 9: Yeah, absolutely, guys, that's gonna day one. That's gonna do

1688
01:12:56,560 --> 01:12:58,280
Speaker 9: it for day one. Here in the books, of course,

1689
01:12:58,280 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 9: you can tune back intomorrow starting at I believe eight

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01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:06,759
Speaker 9: thirty nine o'clock. Yeah, here, Bob Labriel and Tom Offerman,

1691
01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:09,040
Speaker 9: and of course with them we'll take you all the

1692
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:12,360
Speaker 9: way through the day here up until three o'clock. Rob

1693
01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:13,800
Speaker 9: And well, Matt, you won't be here.

1694
01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:15,720
Speaker 4: Tomorrow, but I'll be back Saturday full time.

1695
01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:18,599
Speaker 9: But i I'm off tomorrow, right, but yeah, So day

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Speaker 9: one in the books here at Saint enncent College and Latrobe.

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01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:26,160
Speaker 9: For my partners, Matt Williamson, for Rob King, for Justin

1698
01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:28,599
Speaker 9: Miller Beck in studio keeping us on the air as

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01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:31,599
Speaker 9: he always so capably does. I'm Dale Lallie. We thank

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Speaker 9: you for listening to this edition of the Drive on

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Speaker 9: Steelers Nation Radio.