WEBVTT - Ep. 333: Enduring with Cameron Hanes 0:00:08.960 --> 0:00:12.760 This is me eat your podcast coming at you shirtless, 0:00:12.800 --> 0:00:17.680 severely bug bitten in my case underwear listening to Hunt podcast, 0:00:18.239 --> 0:00:23.360 you can't predict anything presented by first like creating proven 0:00:23.640 --> 0:00:27.880 versatile hunting apparel from Marino bass layers to technical outerwear 0:00:27.960 --> 0:00:35.440 for every Hunt first light, go farther, stay longer, All right, 0:00:35.479 --> 0:00:38.080 everybody joined by what? Joined by? What might perhaps be 0:00:38.159 --> 0:00:40.720 our most requested guests? If if me looking at um 0:00:40.920 --> 0:00:44.120 skimming uh social media comments now and then is any 0:00:44.159 --> 0:00:52.760 indicator Cam Haynes bow hunter, UH endurance athlete? And now 0:00:52.840 --> 0:00:54.600 well you you've always been. You've been an author for 0:00:54.600 --> 0:00:58.160 a hell of a long time, an author again and 0:00:58.160 --> 0:01:02.080 an author again, a brand speaking a new book Endure 0:01:03.280 --> 0:01:06.120 how to work hard, outlast and keep hammering. Which is 0:01:07.120 --> 0:01:11.880 available now. It's ships like just it doesn't matter if 0:01:11.880 --> 0:01:13.840 you if you order right now, you won't know the 0:01:13.880 --> 0:01:16.039 difference if you're if you're in fact listening to this 0:01:16.160 --> 0:01:19.520 on the day like today May sixteenth. If you're listening now, 0:01:20.680 --> 0:01:22.560 you want all the difference because it ships all pre 0:01:22.760 --> 0:01:25.640 order ship May seventeen. Right, So you go by like 0:01:26.319 --> 0:01:29.600 go to I'm gonna do this very diplomatically. Watch how 0:01:29.600 --> 0:01:35.160 I do this, go to your local indie bookseller, go 0:01:35.280 --> 0:01:38.760 to Barnes and Noble mm hmm, and then there's that 0:01:38.840 --> 0:01:46.960 one outfit starts that's it. Yeah, Or go to Amazon 0:01:49.040 --> 0:01:51.400 and it will ship and you will get Cam Hayness 0:01:51.520 --> 0:01:56.520 new book ender. Um, how's that going? Was that fun? 0:01:56.720 --> 0:02:00.200 Working on all? That? Project? Is a new one. I've 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:02.960 I had pretty much self published my other two books, 0:02:03.000 --> 0:02:05.120 and so this was the first time through a publisher 0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:09.080 like you know in New York. Yeah. So it's you know, 0:02:09.160 --> 0:02:11.799 you meet with the publishers as you know, and uh, 0:02:12.080 --> 0:02:14.280 they make a pitch for the advance and all that, 0:02:14.360 --> 0:02:16.639 and so make a decision. And first time I've ever 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:20.560 done that. Yeah, was it an easy decision? Um? Well, 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:23.480 do me ask you this? Did you here's did you 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:27.679 not go with the highest bidder? Uh? Ask for more 0:02:27.720 --> 0:02:31.440 money from the highest poder and and that's a tough 0:02:31.480 --> 0:02:34.600 negotiation right there. I know you've already won the bid, 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:36.600 but I would like a little more. Yeah. I don't 0:02:36.639 --> 0:02:38.040 know if they I don't know, I don't know how 0:02:38.040 --> 0:02:40.400 it works. So I had a book agent, but anyway, 0:02:40.440 --> 0:02:43.760 I just went with the person who mostly that I 0:02:43.800 --> 0:02:46.960 felt best about From the conversation we did an interview, 0:02:47.000 --> 0:02:50.280 and I just I felt like they they My story 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:54.600 was resonated most of them. That's whyse decision making. We're 0:02:54.600 --> 0:02:56.600 gonna we're gonna get into We're gonna get all into that, 0:02:56.680 --> 0:02:59.280 but we gotta cover off on some other stuff up top. 0:02:59.560 --> 0:03:04.440 Per uh per use here. So oh, here's a big 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:06.440 piece of news. You know, my whole thing about how 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:09.680 oh you know what's funny? I got ideas stacking up 0:03:09.680 --> 0:03:12.079 on each other. My kid was out ice fishing with 0:03:12.240 --> 0:03:18.000 his buddy and got a costed by some guy because 0:03:18.000 --> 0:03:21.280 my kid had a meat her hat on. She's like, yeah, 0:03:21.480 --> 0:03:25.359 starts a costing my kid about how his day, how 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:29.840 his dad wants to make it the hugon Hunt Yellowstone. 0:03:32.800 --> 0:03:36.200 Jimmy's like, so what I'm like, Jimmy, First off, you're 0:03:36.200 --> 0:03:38.160 talking to a guy who doesn't know like a joke 0:03:38.240 --> 0:03:40.000 when he hears one, and the fact that he's a 0:03:40.080 --> 0:03:43.040 costing eleven eleven year old on the ice about this? 0:03:45.680 --> 0:03:47.640 Was he serious? He goes, oh, he was mad. So 0:03:47.680 --> 0:03:50.640 he realized that that was your boy. Well he got 0:03:50.680 --> 0:03:52.320 to ask him my kid like, what's up with that hair? 0:03:53.040 --> 0:03:56.160 You know my kids eleven years old? My dad tells 0:03:56.240 --> 0:03:58.440 him what up, and he's like, well, I got something 0:03:58.520 --> 0:04:01.440 I'd like to say to your dad. But hunting Yellowstone 0:04:03.800 --> 0:04:07.920 are idiots to back off other people's I would love 0:04:08.000 --> 0:04:10.560 I was trying to grill about who where, how? I 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:12.520 don't know how to find this guy. He's in town. 0:04:13.000 --> 0:04:15.880 But here's the funny part. I basically now I basically 0:04:15.920 --> 0:04:20.640 now get to hunt Yellowstone because I drew Montana's most 0:04:20.640 --> 0:04:24.040 coveted tag, the buffer zone tag. Oh he didn't. You 0:04:24.040 --> 0:04:26.200 don't know this, No, he didn't tell me. You should 0:04:26.320 --> 0:04:30.600 be applauding me. That little Bison triangle right right north 0:04:30.640 --> 0:04:35.960 of the park, the buffer zone around the northwest corner 0:04:35.960 --> 0:04:38.440 of the buffer zone. It's like this hunting restricted area. 0:04:38.480 --> 0:04:41.440 You can't do much anything in there, but there's five 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:44.919 tag holders and and I have a bazillion had a 0:04:44.920 --> 0:04:48.120 bazillion point. Yeah, no, I don't have great luck all 0:04:48.120 --> 0:04:52.720 the people that there's only five tags, So good luck 0:04:52.800 --> 0:04:55.239 drawn an If you go into that draw with no 0:04:55.640 --> 0:04:58.320 bonus points, I think you have a point eight percent 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:04.200 chances burning. Spot burning exactly, spot burning the most grizzly 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:06.920 infested area in the state. Yeah, you can't do much there, 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:09.000 but they give out five ELK tags for that what 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:12.240 wraps around that? What that? What wraps around like the 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:15.760 extreme northwest corner has nothing to do with lot Korean 0:05:15.920 --> 0:05:18.440 or these points that he's talking about. It's all his 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:26.520 influence with slates lawmakers, the National Park superintendent and said, uh, 0:05:26.560 --> 0:05:30.560 I listen if you don't want in your part to 0:05:30.600 --> 0:05:32.520 make sure I get one of them buffer zone tags 0:05:32.640 --> 0:05:35.520 this year or next year. I don't like. I didn't 0:05:35.560 --> 0:05:37.920 draw any like I barely. I didn't like. I apply 0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:41.040 for everything everywhere. I don't have extraordinary luck. Last year 0:05:41.080 --> 0:05:44.719 I drew nothing. Okay, I just want to do draw something. 0:05:44.760 --> 0:05:48.000 I'd like to tell everybody about it. The nice that 0:05:48.080 --> 0:05:50.640 tag for you is the it's probably only like a 0:05:50.680 --> 0:05:54.640 five minute helicopter flight from your house into the when 0:05:54.680 --> 0:05:58.240 I chopper into there to hunt it. No, I'm real 0:05:58.320 --> 0:06:02.400 excited about that, very excited about that. Uh Oh, here's 0:06:02.400 --> 0:06:04.719 a good thing that we need to talk about. Because 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:09.440 someone do you believe someone sent in a photo where 0:06:09.440 --> 0:06:14.880 they're claiming that there I don't know, claiming is a 0:06:14.920 --> 0:06:18.200 strong word. They're saying that they found they shot at 0:06:18.200 --> 0:06:24.159 Turkey and found their father's shotgun wad in the Turkey's crop. 0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:26.280 When I first saw that picture, I thought it was 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:29.479 going to be that they were so close to it. 0:06:31.080 --> 0:06:32.560 But you know what else, A guy just sent me. 0:06:33.279 --> 0:06:36.160 A guy just sent me um. And it was kind 0:06:36.160 --> 0:06:37.560 of in one year now at the other. In one 0:06:37.600 --> 0:06:40.520 eyeball and out the other. He opened up a crop 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:47.080 and there was a perfect copper bullet in its crop. However, 0:06:47.120 --> 0:06:52.560 the hell it found that eight eight monolithic bullet. We 0:06:52.600 --> 0:06:55.120 had all kinds of turkey stuff going on. The one 0:06:55.160 --> 0:06:58.039 I shot a few days ago had a whole a 0:06:58.160 --> 0:07:02.640 hole punched through the top off it's breast, assume from 0:07:02.640 --> 0:07:06.839 flying into a branch. It wasn't like green and nasty yet, 0:07:07.200 --> 0:07:09.120 so it didn't do any you know. I had to 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:12.360 discard two breasts off turkey one time that came in 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:15.600 like came into a call of goblin um, and he 0:07:15.640 --> 0:07:17.880 had he had jabbed a stick, must have been trying 0:07:17.880 --> 0:07:20.200 to land. And I pulled a big chunk of stick 0:07:20.280 --> 0:07:22.560 out of there, and it was so infected and nasty 0:07:22.640 --> 0:07:24.320 and stink so bad. I threw it. I threw the 0:07:24.320 --> 0:07:26.920 breasts out that whole went threw his breast and into 0:07:26.960 --> 0:07:30.720 his crop. There's like pine nuts like in his breast, 0:07:31.440 --> 0:07:32.840 you know what I mean. They were falling out of 0:07:32.840 --> 0:07:38.400 his crop. M and then Seth you had a Yeah, 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:41.440 my my buddy Casey Underwood shot a turkey that had 0:07:41.480 --> 0:07:44.360 a like one of those Gammo air rifle pellets in 0:07:44.360 --> 0:07:56.040 the breast cam sick and books many watching my handies. 0:07:56.560 --> 0:08:00.560 They are curious and they can eat big things in 0:08:00.680 --> 0:08:03.680 one goal. Uh. The other day we tore down on 0:08:03.680 --> 0:08:07.320 an old shed and there was some mice nests underneath it. 0:08:07.680 --> 0:08:09.840 They didn't quite gulp down the adults, but I can 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:13.400 tell you what those hairless little babies that were squirting 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:17.240 around those were going down like no problem. Like then 0:08:17.320 --> 0:08:19.200 there's no there's no chewing, you know, it just gets 0:08:19.200 --> 0:08:21.600 got down, then it gets ground up or whatever. So 0:08:22.400 --> 0:08:25.840 you know, to eat a shotgun wad, why not? But 0:08:26.640 --> 0:08:28.920 did it eat that shotgun watt or is that just 0:08:28.960 --> 0:08:34.000 the guy's wad lodged into the bird. I think that 0:08:34.080 --> 0:08:37.120 had there would have been some major trauma. We'll look 0:08:37.160 --> 0:08:41.800 at it. Yeah, but the pellets if he was I 0:08:41.840 --> 0:08:46.680 think what Janice is saying, if the wad made it, yeah, 0:08:46.760 --> 0:08:52.240 because and his whole neck off or whatever, you know, 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:54.120 he let mean just I gotta ruin one other crazy 0:08:54.160 --> 0:08:56.520 turkey thing about Cam hang with us man, I know 0:08:56.800 --> 0:08:59.560 turkeys aren't your thing, but yeah, he's actually vowed he 0:08:59.640 --> 0:09:01.800 was into a sports start according at this point, you 0:09:01.880 --> 0:09:04.600 vowed just to not shoot a turkey. Yeah, making a stand. 0:09:07.000 --> 0:09:09.520 Yeah what if we found you? Like Steve's actually next 0:09:09.559 --> 0:09:15.120 week going on a wilderness back country. Yeah, we're not. 0:09:15.160 --> 0:09:18.040 We're gonna walk eight miles before you start hunting. Yeah, 0:09:18.559 --> 0:09:20.679 I mean that sounds better. But still, like what I've 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:23.000 always said, and this is like an inside joke back home, 0:09:23.040 --> 0:09:25.120 but the best thing that can happen on a turkey 0:09:25.200 --> 0:09:29.000 hunt is you kill a turkey. So like, because people 0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:31.040 like to say, well it's kind of like l hunting, 0:09:31.160 --> 0:09:32.840 you know, they're just you know, call him in, and 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:35.080 I'm like, no, because the best thing that happens on 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:37.319 an elk hunts you kill a big bull. The best 0:09:37.320 --> 0:09:39.760 thing on turkey is still just a turkey turkey. So 0:09:40.559 --> 0:09:45.520 that's true. I also know that I know a number 0:09:45.520 --> 0:09:49.880 of elk counters who are who hate the the equivalency. 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:53.840 It's like, I only know one other he's staunchly opposed 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:57.160 to that. Yeah, but I've heard the grumblings. Yeah, like 0:09:57.240 --> 0:09:59.839 there's grumbling to respect to cam. But I think that 0:10:00.240 --> 0:10:02.120 the best thing that happens is you're going to kill 0:10:02.120 --> 0:10:06.280 a turkey. Is like, that's a that's an argument for Yeah, 0:10:06.320 --> 0:10:08.280 it's great to kill turkey as well, and you're not 0:10:08.360 --> 0:10:14.079 like carrying all that hundreds of pounds. But you might 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:17.319 not be aware of too. Is I'm actually opposed to this. 0:10:17.360 --> 0:10:20.760 But you can score turkeys. You can't the spur. It's like, 0:10:21.360 --> 0:10:25.640 I've seen him weigh it, so you weigh it. Then 0:10:25.679 --> 0:10:28.800 you gotta like measure its spur and times at by something. 0:10:29.559 --> 0:10:33.480 It's times at by something that is minimum for a turkey. 0:10:33.520 --> 0:10:39.360 Do you know, No, it's really bad. It's like, yeah, 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:41.920 people will be like, well, I've got a high scoring turkey. 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:45.360 People measure them by length total length now too, don't they? 0:10:46.559 --> 0:10:48.880 The hunting public dude started that just as Yeah, I 0:10:48.880 --> 0:10:51.680 think I just kind of just a joke. The long 0:10:51.720 --> 0:10:53.800 bird they call them, all right, But tell me what 0:10:53.840 --> 0:10:57.040 you think about this. I get home yesterday. I got 0:10:57.040 --> 0:10:58.600 a bunch of stuff in my truck, so I've gotta 0:10:58.600 --> 0:11:00.679 take multiple trips in and out house. I'll leave the 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:02.840 side door open after the first trip, go back to 0:11:02.840 --> 0:11:04.480 the truck in the time that it takes me to 0:11:04.480 --> 0:11:06.000 go to the truck grabbing the load of stuff and 0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:08.439 come back into the house. Four or five chickens and 0:11:08.480 --> 0:11:10.959 two turkeys have entered my kitchen through that side door. 0:11:12.679 --> 0:11:14.760 Yeah they're curious, man, you leave the door open there. 0:11:14.840 --> 0:11:18.000 Right in one of the turkeys, in this very short 0:11:18.040 --> 0:11:21.920 amount of time, has jumped up onto the countertop and 0:11:22.040 --> 0:11:25.560 right where we keep our basket of eggs, is already 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:29.400 got her beak in the eggs and is like coursing 0:11:29.520 --> 0:11:33.560 moving not the chicken egg the two turkey eggs that 0:11:33.559 --> 0:11:35.720 are in this bucket that either she or the other 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:39.400 hand laid and she's working them. This happened in your 0:11:39.480 --> 0:11:43.560 kid somehow, Like I don't know, man, but it makes 0:11:43.559 --> 0:11:46.520 me think that there's like some sort of ship in 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:49.040 the head going on there that we don't know about, 0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:51.040 because how does she She's never been in that house, 0:11:51.080 --> 0:11:56.680 because the little baby turkeys are like, dude, it could be. 0:11:56.880 --> 0:11:59.040 It could be because I think they're fur lies. Because 0:11:59.040 --> 0:12:01.800 I was telling you those wild jake's bread those hands. 0:12:02.559 --> 0:12:06.080 Oh really, the wild jake's are having sex with your turkeys, 0:12:08.679 --> 0:12:13.000 and are you gonna let him sick? Things are getting 0:12:13.000 --> 0:12:19.400 pretty rich. I think that after this podcast, I'm going 0:12:19.480 --> 0:12:25.480 over to Murdock's and buying a incubator good shop. Yeah, 0:12:25.480 --> 0:12:27.040 I mean the kids are going to have a blast 0:12:27.280 --> 0:12:29.560 with it. I mean I'm gonna have fun with it. Yeah, 0:12:29.600 --> 0:12:31.640 what else are you gonna do? Just try to breaking 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:33.200 a law? But I don't know what the law would be. 0:12:34.240 --> 0:12:36.400 Are you a criminal if a wild turkey breeds your 0:12:36.400 --> 0:12:40.000 turkey and then you raise those turkeys? I don't know. 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:49.080 Are you stealing wildlife? Well? No, we can bleep out 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:50.920 what he just said. Dude, this is like a real 0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:54.559 crazy gray area because if you're go find an elk calf, 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:59.520 you damn sure you can't bring that home. Right, A 0:12:59.520 --> 0:13:02.000 couple action, You're good. That's crazy. If you had a 0:13:02.000 --> 0:13:04.600 dog that like a coyote, like Kyle Bread your dog 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:09.440 and had puppies, you'd be fine. I think you'd be fine. Right, 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:11.400 This is this is gonna this is gonna end a 0:13:11.440 --> 0:13:14.960 real stone or stone or landscape. But you know, if 0:13:15.000 --> 0:13:19.480 you to a willow tree, if you did, you know 0:13:19.559 --> 0:13:23.839 this what I'm gonna say I do. I don't think 0:13:23.880 --> 0:13:25.800 he had to be a real big pot smoker to 0:13:25.840 --> 0:13:28.679 appreciate this. If you play the sound of running water 0:13:28.880 --> 0:13:31.520 to a willow tree. The willow tree will send root 0:13:31.600 --> 0:13:35.600 tendrils in that direction before. That's what I'm saying. At 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:38.800 some point, you're not gonna eat anything when they find 0:13:38.800 --> 0:13:43.560 out how what's going on out there, No one's gonna 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:47.920 need anything. Yeah, the vegetarians don't find out that their 0:13:48.000 --> 0:13:50.920 food has is talking to itself. Yeah, what are they 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:56.640 gonna eat? A couple of corrections, Um, this is bad. 0:13:57.800 --> 0:14:01.200 I got talking about we're talking about top Gun, and 0:14:01.240 --> 0:14:02.680 I was saying how it made a lot of people. 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:07.120 I was talking about top Gun in the Air Force, guys, 0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:10.800 like other than a beach volleyball scene, the actors are 0:14:10.840 --> 0:14:15.480 wearing Navy uniforms, flying Navy aircraft, or they are aboard 0:14:15.640 --> 0:14:21.200 Navy aircraft carriers throughout the entire movie. I assume you 0:14:21.240 --> 0:14:23.720 may have some Navy vets a bit upset with you, 0:14:24.880 --> 0:14:29.480 so apologies of us were in the room when you 0:14:29.520 --> 0:14:32.560 were saying that, and I didn't catch it either. If 0:14:32.640 --> 0:14:34.520 you would have asked me, I would have known that 0:14:34.760 --> 0:14:37.120 they weren't in the Army. If you just said that 0:14:37.160 --> 0:14:38.680 there are they in the Air Force in the Navy 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:39.880 in that movie, I don't know if I would have 0:14:39.880 --> 0:14:43.200 been answered correctly, it would have one more correction. This 0:14:43.240 --> 0:14:46.440 is more substantive. We were talking about when we when 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:49.640 we had the episode with Mr Nugent, we were talking 0:14:49.680 --> 0:14:55.920 about lighted knocks and mechanical broadheads being illegal in Ohio, 0:14:56.120 --> 0:15:00.640 and we were particularly talking about like weird arbitrary Ohio, sorry, 0:15:01.720 --> 0:15:07.320 weird arbitrary tackle archery tackle restrictions UM. As of February, 0:15:09.000 --> 0:15:13.920 legislation h B five oh seven was passed according to 0:15:14.000 --> 0:15:17.840 I I d f G Idaho Department of Fishing Game 0:15:18.360 --> 0:15:23.760 beginning July one. Two thou so coming right up, it 0:15:23.880 --> 0:15:27.760 is legal to use mechanical broadheads and lighted knocks in 0:15:27.800 --> 0:15:33.760 the taken of wildlife during any archery season. Rejoice. That 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:37.880 was more of an update than a correctional correct. I 0:15:37.920 --> 0:15:42.040 mean at the time that we recorded, we weren't technically correct. 0:15:42.720 --> 0:15:45.400 It's breaking news, that's more. Yeah, I'd put more as 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:50.480 a breaking news. Uh. Chester caught the pretty much the 0:15:50.480 --> 0:15:53.880 world's biggest wall I ever caught. But before you touched 0:15:53.880 --> 0:15:56.560 on that, I needed I need to tell you I 0:15:56.600 --> 0:15:59.040 forgot to mention we touched on earlier that I am 0:15:59.080 --> 0:16:04.880 now ordained minister YEP, so I can conduct Seth ceremony 0:16:04.920 --> 0:16:08.320 this summer. You seem real excited about that, very excited 0:16:08.320 --> 0:16:11.360 about they're sending me. They're actually sending me a wall 0:16:11.360 --> 0:16:15.680 plaque in the mail. You're gonna wear like the priest uniform. 0:16:16.720 --> 0:16:19.280 I'm addressed like an old Wild West preacher. Oh that's 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:21.960 gonna be great. I can't wait. So world's biggest walleye 0:16:22.680 --> 0:16:26.920 lifetime best, my lifetime best. Honestly, when I saw that picture, 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:29.800 I didn't know they made walleyes like that. So Cal 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:32.720 and I were out fishing and there was no other 0:16:32.800 --> 0:16:35.320 boats out on this local lake. We were at not 0:16:35.440 --> 0:16:38.680 a single boat. The water was colder than you'd want, 0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:42.520 so it was like thirty five degrees. Um really still 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:47.720 still pre spawn. But we're trolling. Um. I never get 0:16:47.760 --> 0:16:53.000 to do that with Seth. He doesn't like trolling. Anyways, 0:16:53.400 --> 0:16:58.560 we were we got like fishing a d D. Yeah, dude, 0:16:58.560 --> 0:17:02.160 is get him that. Give him a dolsata a d 0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:05.000 D medicine and see if he likes trolling more. I 0:17:05.119 --> 0:17:09.200 just give him bush light if you're in a troll. Anyways, Uh, 0:17:09.280 --> 0:17:12.119 So we were trolling. We had planer boards out um, 0:17:12.200 --> 0:17:15.639 and we were trolling slow like one point two to 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:18.760 one point five miles an hour, and we had marked 0:17:18.760 --> 0:17:21.280 a big pot of fish caught about a thirteen inch er, 0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:24.480 which is very very common to be expected out there, 0:17:25.080 --> 0:17:27.320 and there's a lot of carp in this area. So 0:17:27.359 --> 0:17:30.480 we're trolling along and all of a sudden, that outside 0:17:30.520 --> 0:17:33.639 planer board, the tattle flag goes back, so it's kind 0:17:33.640 --> 0:17:36.280 of like watching it tip up, except the flag tips 0:17:36.320 --> 0:17:40.160 down rather than tipping up, and that that planer board 0:17:40.200 --> 0:17:43.520 starts pulling towards the middle of the boat, and Cow's like, 0:17:43.560 --> 0:17:45.880 go chet, you're on, you know, and I grab it 0:17:46.680 --> 0:17:50.200 and I immediately I'm like I snagged a carp because 0:17:50.200 --> 0:17:53.399 it was just a lot of weight. Yeah, just a 0:17:53.440 --> 0:17:56.560 lot of weight. And I'm sitting there marking away point 0:17:56.640 --> 0:17:59.000 and trying to slow the boat down because I did 0:17:59.040 --> 0:18:02.280 not think on the other end. I did not expect 0:18:02.320 --> 0:18:04.399 what was on the other end of that that line. 0:18:04.960 --> 0:18:08.560 And uh, anyways, so I'm cranking reeling. I get to 0:18:08.600 --> 0:18:11.280 the planer board and you disconnect the planer board from 0:18:11.320 --> 0:18:14.840 the line and then you keep reeling and it's just heavy. 0:18:15.160 --> 0:18:18.240 It's getting towards the boat. I'm expecting it to see 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:27.160 a yellow carp come up nasty um. So it gets 0:18:27.200 --> 0:18:30.840 to the surface and I see white on the tail, 0:18:31.560 --> 0:18:34.080 which walleye fisherman knows that they got a little white 0:18:34.080 --> 0:18:36.680 spot on the tail. And this isn't a little white spot. 0:18:36.720 --> 0:18:39.840 This is a big white spot. And I didn't say 0:18:39.840 --> 0:18:42.119 anything at first because it really didn't register. And the 0:18:42.160 --> 0:18:45.159 thing got to the surface, and with the refraction in 0:18:45.200 --> 0:18:47.240 the water, it looked like it was four ft long. 0:18:47.520 --> 0:18:50.399 And I'm not kidding. I was just like, oh my gosh, 0:18:51.080 --> 0:18:53.360 it looks like I mean like, it looks like it's 0:18:53.359 --> 0:18:58.000 four ft long. Yeah, And anyways, my legs starts shaking because, 0:18:58.080 --> 0:19:01.639 like I couldn't believe it. In any walleye fisher we 0:19:01.680 --> 0:19:04.439 would know that this fish was big. It was thirty 0:19:04.560 --> 0:19:07.880 three and a half inches. It was twenty one inches 0:19:07.920 --> 0:19:10.800 around of girth, and cal said he didn't even measure 0:19:10.800 --> 0:19:13.040 it in the right spot, so it could have potentially 0:19:13.080 --> 0:19:17.200 been even bigger. The Montana state record is thirty two 0:19:17.640 --> 0:19:20.920 and a half inches with a twenty two inch girth. 0:19:21.600 --> 0:19:23.520 This had a twenty one inch girth and it was 0:19:23.600 --> 0:19:27.560 thirty three and a half inches not how do you 0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:29.159 know it's not the state record because we didn't have 0:19:29.160 --> 0:19:33.960 a scale and you know, I don't really hold Jester, 0:19:36.160 --> 0:19:42.200 you re record. Yeah, I don't really care to have 0:19:42.200 --> 0:19:48.840 the state record. The fortune could be rich. John Morris 0:19:48.880 --> 0:19:52.639 would have been knocking at your door. Yea, yeah, we 0:19:52.720 --> 0:19:54.760 got a guy coming on the podcast pretty soon because 0:19:54.760 --> 0:19:57.400 he shot the biggest archery white tail ever. Well, crank bait, 0:19:57.520 --> 0:19:59.960 you get it on, you got you got a few 0:20:00.040 --> 0:20:04.640 those for free, blue chrome flicker Shad Berkeley. Berkeley would 0:20:04.640 --> 0:20:06.639 have been kicking the door down, Jessee. You'd have the 0:20:06.720 --> 0:20:08.960 number like, at least at a minimum, the number two 0:20:09.000 --> 0:20:12.560 state record Walleye. Well, I mean we don't know that 0:20:12.640 --> 0:20:15.520 for sure, but it was. It was a big fish, 0:20:15.760 --> 0:20:18.639 and I was I was a static god just to 0:20:18.720 --> 0:20:21.120 think that. I could have said, like, man, you know what, 0:20:21.320 --> 0:20:24.240 buddy of mine, state record holder. But now I can't 0:20:24.240 --> 0:20:26.680 say ship. I gotta be like, oh, I know guy 0:20:26.720 --> 0:20:31.160 that you know it's a guy, Jester. No one cares 0:20:31.200 --> 0:20:39.360 to hear that. Well, you know, let it go. That's 0:20:39.400 --> 0:20:42.480 mighty big of your chester. Yeah, there's full eggs, just 0:20:42.520 --> 0:20:45.320 thinking how many eggs I know. But I'm saying nine 0:20:45.320 --> 0:20:49.640 out of ten, nine out of ten Americans, Americans have 0:20:49.640 --> 0:20:55.240 been taking a fish home nine point Americans. Congrats on 0:20:55.280 --> 0:20:58.040 the fish. Thank you. That's a great one. Yeah. Yeah, 0:20:58.320 --> 0:21:01.800 if you like fishing as much as I like fishing, 0:21:02.560 --> 0:21:06.600 it's like shooting a bowl, you know, like if you 0:21:06.680 --> 0:21:09.399 were to compared to hunting. So it was pretty sweet. 0:21:10.000 --> 0:21:14.600 So how big did that state record walleye? How what 0:21:14.760 --> 0:21:18.320 is its weight? It was over eighteen pounds, so I 0:21:18.320 --> 0:21:20.800 don't know if it's like eighteen point two or eighteen 0:21:20.840 --> 0:21:24.800 point five, but it's round eighteen a little over. And 0:21:24.800 --> 0:21:28.200 and that fish who knows, you know, I mean it 0:21:28.880 --> 0:21:31.040 could have been fifteen, it could have been nineteen, it 0:21:31.080 --> 0:21:33.800 could have been seventeen. Do you think you might want 0:21:33.800 --> 0:21:37.239 to get yourself a little scale? Seth has one late Now, 0:21:37.320 --> 0:21:39.960 I guess it's not gonna happen. You go fishing our 0:21:40.000 --> 0:21:43.280 thirty years and maybe catch a fish like that. Yeah, 0:21:43.680 --> 0:21:45.960 Chair was supposed to come turkey on with me that weekend. 0:21:46.000 --> 0:21:50.600 He ditched. Steve gave me some four Do you look 0:21:50.640 --> 0:21:54.360 at this as a good positive omen to the beginning 0:21:54.400 --> 0:21:58.560 of the walleye tour? That's hard to say because being 0:21:58.600 --> 0:22:01.000 a fishing guy, you know, if you catch up a 0:22:01.080 --> 0:22:03.920 fish on the first cast, it's bad luck. But this 0:22:04.000 --> 0:22:08.960 isn't even same day, same month, So I think we'll 0:22:09.000 --> 0:22:12.400 have some time to recuperate and uh catch another when 0:22:12.440 --> 0:22:17.480 they make a documentary about Seth and Chester's uh first 0:22:17.520 --> 0:22:21.280 year as tournament walleye fisherman, that like like a or 0:22:21.320 --> 0:22:27.800 like a fictionalized version that that'll be in that because 0:22:27.800 --> 0:22:30.040 you can play either way. It doesn't matter, Like you're 0:22:30.040 --> 0:22:31.240 gonna put it in there and it will be that. 0:22:31.280 --> 0:22:34.320 It was either like a harbinger, right, it was like 0:22:35.240 --> 0:22:38.760 it's a big part of this whole story. Yeah, so 0:22:38.960 --> 0:22:41.760 can these guys are these guys are becoming tournament walleye 0:22:41.800 --> 0:22:44.000 fish they're doing their first year of the tournament? Two nice? 0:22:44.920 --> 0:22:50.439 Does that count? Or is that so when is a 0:22:50.480 --> 0:22:58.680 tournament Maybe it's the weekend of like May. Yeah. Yeah, 0:22:58.840 --> 0:23:00.720 to make account he would have had he would have 0:23:00.840 --> 0:23:03.160 to keep it alive and then pass a lie detector. 0:23:03.640 --> 0:23:06.720 That's tough. Yeah, you seem pretty honest. But if on 0:23:06.880 --> 0:23:10.440 that day you're like, I caught another one that looks 0:23:10.560 --> 0:23:17.800 just like the one I had on social media, Yeah, 0:23:18.000 --> 0:23:20.800 that could have been your signature that that bait us 0:23:20.880 --> 0:23:24.720 could have been your signature signature series. Yeah, the chest 0:23:24.800 --> 0:23:27.880 Chester Floyd Flicker Chad. Yeah, next time you catch big wallet, 0:23:27.840 --> 0:23:29.960 I need to have a talent manager with you to 0:23:30.000 --> 0:23:32.440 tell you how to handle the situation. But if you 0:23:32.440 --> 0:23:33.800 want to see a picture of the fish, I mean 0:23:33.800 --> 0:23:37.200 it's an impressive ass fish. Yeah. Uh, go to at 0:23:37.280 --> 0:23:41.840 musky Chat, right there's no underscores and all that weirdness. 0:23:41.880 --> 0:23:45.960 Just at muskie Chat you can cheer. Uh. These boys 0:23:45.960 --> 0:23:49.560 are rigging up the electronics and their new um, their 0:23:49.600 --> 0:23:52.439 new tournament boat right now. Well yeah, we didn't take 0:23:52.480 --> 0:23:54.360 a break for this, but we've been rigging the last 0:23:54.400 --> 0:23:59.160 two days. A lot of wirings. It's a sweet boat. Yeah. Yeah, 0:23:59.359 --> 0:24:01.480 we've never done it before and it's quite a process. 0:24:01.880 --> 0:24:04.000