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Speaker 2: from NBC Sports will join us from Churchill Downs. Pacers

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Speaker 2: close out the Bucks four games to two. The Knicks

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Speaker 2: close out the seventy six ers. I know, so it

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Speaker 2: says four games to two. It felt like it was

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Speaker 2: more of a slugfest than oh, we won four games

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Speaker 2: to two, because if you take the combined total of points,

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Speaker 2: two points separated these two teams, So now the Knicks

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Speaker 2: will face the Pacers coming up on Monday. Calves Magic

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Speaker 2: Game six tonight for entertainment purposes only. According to DraftKings,

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Speaker 2: the Cabs are getting four against the Magic, the Clippers

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Speaker 2: getting eight against the MAVs, So uh, Luca, the over

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Speaker 2: under is thirty three and a half for him tonight.

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Speaker 2: what are we starting off with? First down?

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Speaker 3: We can start with has Patrick beverly played his last.

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Speaker 1: Game in the NBA? Okay, Yes, or no.

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Speaker 2: Late in the game Milwaukee Bucks, Patrick Beverley, he was

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Speaker 2: on the bench and he threw a basketball to a fan,

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Speaker 2: hit her in the side of the face, and then

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Speaker 2: he wanted the ball back. They threw the ball back

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Speaker 2: to him, and then he threw the ball again. So

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Speaker 2: he was interviewed after the game by an ESPN reporter producer,

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Speaker 2: and Patrick Beverly wasn't very forthcoming.

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Speaker 4: Subscribe to my part.

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Speaker 5: So you can't interview me down, okay?

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Speaker 4: Cool?

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Speaker 6: So again, there were a couple times within a bucket

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Speaker 6: or two previous games they all been able.

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Speaker 1: To kind of get over that humber.

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Speaker 6: Maybe was it anything dated in particular, or was it

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Speaker 6: just one of those where the bucket didn't go down?

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Speaker 6: There wasn't the stop they made one? What kind of

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Speaker 6: prevented that you off from me able to get over

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Speaker 6: like you haven't.

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Speaker 7: The mood that might please or just get out the

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Speaker 7: circle please for me, please, ma'am.

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Speaker 1: If you're not subscribed to my pot, I appreciate it that,

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Speaker 1: thank you.

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 2: I don't care about anything basketball wise. I want to

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Speaker 2: know why you threw the basketball at this fan.

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Speaker 1: Twice.

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Speaker 2: You're thirty five, okay, I don't subscribe to your podcast,

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Speaker 2: so he probably won't come on this show. We invited him.

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Speaker 2: At what point do you go, you know what, this

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Speaker 2: might be a good idea. I'm going to shut this

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Speaker 2: fan up by throwing the basketball at her man.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it again. Okay, At what.

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Speaker 2: Point does the commissioner, Well, I mean, he's going to

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Speaker 2: find him suspended, but he's a free agent.

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Speaker 1: If you're Milwaukee, is that what you want? He used

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Speaker 2: He was a defensive guy, although I think a lot

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Speaker 2: of times when you're the defensive guy, that gets overstated.

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Speaker 2: He's had a good career, nice career, but most of

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Speaker 2: his career has been highlighted by or lowlighted by things

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Speaker 2: don't want that product in your league. If you're the commissioner,

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Speaker 2: you know, maybe you suspend him indefinitely, but you know,

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Speaker 2: somebody will probably pick him up and well, hopefully they

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Speaker 2: subscribe to his podcast.

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Speaker 4: There.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, watching that last night, and I didn't watch

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Speaker 2: the fact. And then he doesn't want to talk and

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Speaker 2: he's pushing the microphone out of the way a couple

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Speaker 2: of times, and you can't do that either. So do

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Speaker 2: I think he's played his last game? I'll say no,

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Speaker 2: because it feels like there's always a team that goes,

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Speaker 2: you know, we could use somebody like that, like the

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Speaker 2: seventy six ers. To me, could use Draymond Green. Now

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Speaker 2: we watched Draymond Green do stupid things. But then there's

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Speaker 2: always a team or teams out there that go, you

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Speaker 2: know what, we need that kind of thing. We need

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Speaker 2: an edge, you know, Rajah Belle, Bruce Bowen, you know,

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Speaker 2: you need those guys. So maybe somebody picks him up

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Speaker 2: at age thirty five. But yeah, you're watching that hits

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Speaker 2: the woman side of the face. Now, maybe things were said.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what was said, in fairness to Patrick Beverly,

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Speaker 2: at least going, you know, nuclear on her. Now, those

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Speaker 2: are words that you know could have been said. And

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Speaker 2: Patrick Beverly, who has a podcast, must be a wordsmith.

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Speaker 2: So he should have been able to respond back to

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Speaker 1: I mean even know he was playing.

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Speaker 8: Either, you see a stat line you didn't miss much.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So Patrick Beverley and the Bucks have been eliminated.

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Speaker 2: Here's Doc Rivers talking about playing without his best players

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Speaker 2: last game.

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Speaker 9: We're the first team in NBA history to win a

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Speaker 9: game with your two best scores out. I mean that's history.

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Speaker 9: That's not like one game one year. It's hard to do,

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Speaker 9: man like take Yoki Cha Murray away, you know, go

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Speaker 9: to each team and take your two best players away.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be.

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Speaker 1: Hard, Yes, it is. What a weird year in Milwaukee.

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Speaker 2: You get your coach, he finally gets a chance, You

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Speaker 2: fire your coach. You bring in Doc Rivers and it

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Speaker 2: felt like he was held at gunpoint to take the job.

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Speaker 2: And then you lose. Jannis Dame came back, but you know,

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Speaker 2: in limited fashion last night, and you get eliminated. You

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Speaker 2: They go And sometimes you look at teams now, I

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Speaker 2: don't think the talent on Indiana's great. You know, Tyrese

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Speaker 2: Haliburton is a wonderful player. But sometimes it's the collection

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Speaker 1: Like the Knicks.

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Speaker 2: I don't think the Knicks are you know, a talented team,

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Speaker 2: but I think they're a great team because you put

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Speaker 2: all the pieces together. And speaking of the Knicks last night,

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Speaker 2: you know what, that's what you want out of a

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Speaker 2: great player. Jalen Brunson is. He's one of those guys

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Speaker 2: that you're going, well, let me see if he can

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Speaker 2: do it again, and then he does it again. Well,

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Speaker 2: let me see if he can do it in the playoffs,

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Speaker 2: and then he does it in the playoffs. And they

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Speaker 2: spots on the floor and he probably learned a lot

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Speaker 2: from playing with Luca in Dallas. He just kind of

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Speaker 2: gets in these pockets and he knows what to do

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Speaker 2: and he goes at his own pace.

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Speaker 1: Boy, he's lethal, and it.

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Speaker 2: Still feels like yeah, but he's like the second player

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Speaker 2: you won on your roster like he was in Dallas.

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Speaker 2: Now he's a number one. He's a true number one,

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Speaker 2: whether you like it or not, whether you're willing to

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Speaker 2: does he do that? He just knows how to play basketball,

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Speaker 2: and his supporting cast they all fit together. But it's

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Speaker 2: not a great group of talent. You don't even have

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Speaker 2: beat Philadelphia and that was a wonderful That's one of

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Speaker 2: Conference Finals, just with everything attached to it, endings, missed calls,

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Speaker 2: guys stepping up, big Nicks did a great job on

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Speaker 2: Tyrese Maxi and Jalen Brunson and company lead the charge.

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Speaker 2: And now they got the Pacers coming up on Monday.

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Speaker 2: So Cabs at the Magic tonight, Clippers at the Mavericks.

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Speaker 2: That is game six as well. What else do we have, Seaton.

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Speaker 3: Well, we were talking a little bit about the Knicks too, okay,

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Speaker 3: trying to figure out the Knicks. The Knicks have a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, do they have a great player in

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Speaker 2: Jalen Brunson, Yes, they have great chemistry because they don't

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Speaker 2: mean he's not. If we're going, okay, do they have

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Speaker 2: But you can't go into you know, game one against

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Speaker 2: the Pacers, going, you know what, Dante di van Jenzo

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Speaker 2: I think that's Josh Hart. You don't know that. But

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Speaker 2: great team. But Brunson's a great player.

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Speaker 1: He is.

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Speaker 2: He just doesn't feel, sound or look like he's a

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Speaker 2: why why are you going to let him go?

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 2: They get Kyrie? But still if you said to Dallas

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Speaker 2: you could still have Kyrie or Jalen Brunson, I would

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Speaker 2: want to have Jalen Brunson. Kyrie's been wonderful this year.

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Speaker 2: Jalen Brunson, you know now, granted he wouldn't be scoring

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Speaker 2: like this in Dallas because Jalen, you know, is a

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Speaker 2: ball dominant star in New York, just like Luca is

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Speaker 2: in Dallas.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Seed, It's funny.

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Speaker 3: That's one of those situations where you know how we

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Speaker 3: do the like if you took this guy off that

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Speaker 3: as good? I think if you switched Kyrie and Jalen Brunson.

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Speaker 1: With the Knicks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if the Knicks, I don't think they are where

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Speaker 3: they are are right now.

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Speaker 2: You don't know, no, I mean Bronson Brunson's played at

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Speaker 2: a really high level.

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Speaker 3: Kyrie is still great, but sharing it with Luca, Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: which is.

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Speaker 2: No, it's not no, it's not yeah. I mean maybe

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Speaker 2: similar results, similar stats.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I want to be fair to Kyrie because he,

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Speaker 2: of course is the most talented player to ever play

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Speaker 2: the game. But Brunson, he just knows how to play me,

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Speaker 2: not afraid of a big moment either, So he's up

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Speaker 4: Don't be crazy to say twenty seven. He said twenty nine.

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Speaker 1: Like I'm a billionaire.

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Speaker 2: Okay, great, you got a crappy did you make a

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Speaker 2: Cabs Magic Game six tonight, Clippers at the Mavericks Game

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's that it's that extreme. And so.

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Speaker 11: We we we felt that, you know, since he he

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Speaker 11: we just we just said, no, this is not the

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Speaker 11: right thing.

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Speaker 4: And so the first time I saw him play in

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Speaker 4: person was.

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Speaker 11: In a pickup game that fall in twenty eighteen, and

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Speaker 11: he he came in and you know, we had signed

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Speaker 11: DeAndre Jordan, we had you know, Wes Matthews, we had

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Speaker 11: who else, Harrison Barnes was on the team. We had

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Speaker 11: the makings of a of a of a of a

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Speaker 11: pretty good team. And he came in and he was

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Speaker 11: He played the pickup game like Magic Johnson. He passed

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Speaker 11: the ever loving crap out of it. He was he

446
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Speaker 11: was getting every rebound, he scored some, but he was

447
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Speaker 11: just absolutely controlling the game with vision, passing, you know,

448
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Speaker 11: a few shots here and there, and you know, I

449
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Speaker 11: watched this and I said, Jesus, guy's this guy's actually

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Speaker 11: a point guard. We weren't sure he played point in

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Speaker 11: the in his team at Real Madrid, but you're just

452
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Speaker 11: never sure how it's all going to translate to the NBA.

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Speaker 11: But you know, on day one, it was clear that

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Speaker 11: that he was that he was a point guard.

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Speaker 4: And so you know, then.

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Speaker 11: From there, figuring out how how to kind of take

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Speaker 11: that in the direction that needed to go was was

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Speaker 11: a little challenging because we had Dennis Smith Junior, who

459
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Speaker 11: was a young player, very talented too, so, but that

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Speaker 11: was what day one looked like. And then once we

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Speaker 11: got into this season, you know, you know, Luca found

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Speaker 11: out that, you know, he.

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Speaker 4: Could really score.

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Speaker 11: I mean, it's scoring became very easy to him in

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Speaker 11: the NBA. And you'd have to ask him this, but

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Speaker 11: I think I think he probably would say that, you know,

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Speaker 11: he just he wasn't. He didn't realize coming in that

468
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Speaker 11: he would would have been able to impact the game

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Speaker 11: scoring wise the way he did, and so he was.

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Speaker 4: He was a super dynamic from from day one.

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Speaker 11: And obviously you know he's with a finalist for for

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Speaker 11: m v P now and if it doesn't happen this year,

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Speaker 11: It'll it's going to happen soon.

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Speaker 2: Who's the best shooter in the building? Which building like

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Speaker 2: your your practice? How about the city of Indianapolis. Who's

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Speaker 2: the best shooter in town?

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Speaker 4: Boy, it'd be hard, it'd be hard not to say

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Speaker 4: that it's Tyree Celiburton right now. Now, if you know,

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Speaker 4: if Fridgie Miller was.

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Speaker 1: In town, what about Caitlyn Clark.

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Speaker 4: It might be a different conversation.

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Speaker 1: What's that Caitlin Clark? Is she a factor in?

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Speaker 4: Oh? She fract chief factors in. This is a trick question.

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Speaker 11: I knew, I knew you'd hit me with one of these,

485
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Speaker 11: but I I I've gotta I've gotta lean toward my

486
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Speaker 11: team just because you know, these these are these are

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Speaker 11: my guys. But uh, you know, Caitlin being on the

488
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Speaker 11: scene is is really cool too. And the city I

489
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Speaker 11: think part of part of the buzz around our city

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Speaker 11: and our team, you know, comes a little bit with

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Speaker 11: the buzz of her arriving in town as well.

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Speaker 1: Is Bird still in town? Do you see him often?

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Speaker 11: Uh? From time to time? Yeah, he I don't know

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Speaker 11: if he's back in Indiana yet. He's eating Florida in

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Speaker 11: the winter, and then he'll be back at his ranch

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Speaker 11: and uh In uh In in southern Indiana sometime soon.

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Speaker 11: But if you're asking if he's in the conversation for

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Speaker 11: best shooter.

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Speaker 2: I think I think that's an obvious Yes, I'm sure

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Speaker 2: that he would still think he's the best shooter.

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Speaker 11: And I know and I know, I know you're gonna

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Speaker 11: probably ask me about the left handed scoring thing.

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Speaker 4: But you asked me about that one other time.

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Speaker 1: So if that was against Portland, right, yeah, that was

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Speaker 1: against Portland.

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Speaker 4: It was it was it was about left handed jump shooting.

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Speaker 11: You know, if you're righty, and he'd be you know,

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Speaker 11: he would, he'd win that contest.

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Speaker 2: Okay, imagine if Luca said I'm going to take just

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Speaker 2: left handed shots in a game. How would you have

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Speaker 2: reacted to that if you were his coach, Well.

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Speaker 11: Knowing what I know about Luca, I would have let

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Speaker 11: him do whatever he felt the right, you know, the right.

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Speaker 4: Thing at the time.

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Speaker 11: Like I can't tell you the amount of money I

516
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Speaker 11: lost to Luca betting against him making half court shots

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Speaker 11: in practice. I mean, you know, like coach, you know,

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Speaker 11: you know, you know, I'm not gonna give you I'm

519
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Speaker 11: not gonna give you the amount of money one out

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Speaker 11: of one, out of three, one out of three. I

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Speaker 11: was like, yeah, no way. And then he makes this

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Speaker 11: first or second one like every time. I mean, it was,

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Speaker 11: it was. It was absolutely uncanny, and you know he

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Speaker 11: just looka was one of the was one of those

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Speaker 11: guys that all all he can ever see is how

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Speaker 11: something is going to happen, like and like doubt never

527
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Speaker 11: never seemed to enter his mind at all, and therefore,

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Speaker 11: you know, he never thinks about missing. And so you

529
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Speaker 11: know a lot of these guys are very unwilling to

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Speaker 11: take you know, these end of quarter you know, full

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Speaker 11: court heaves, and you know it's interesting, Dan, Like I

532
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Speaker 11: was on some committees, you know, over the years where

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Speaker 11: you know, we talked about this, and you know, some

534
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Speaker 11: people said, well, why don't we just come up with

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Speaker 11: a rule where if a guy takes a shot at

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Speaker 11: the end of the court or beyond half court.

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Speaker 4: And it misses, it doesn't count as a field goal attempt.

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Speaker 11: You know, then then you won't have all this you know,

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Speaker 11: holding on the ball till the red light goes on

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Speaker 11: and then flinging it knowing it didn't count, and then

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Speaker 11: and then we talked about it, and then you know,

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Speaker 11: one of the things I said was, if we do that,

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Speaker 11: you're gonna have guys getting the ball with seven seconds

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Speaker 11: left in the back court, keeping it in the back court,

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Speaker 11: keeping it behind the line, behind the half court line,

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Speaker 11: so that on the on the on the chance that

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Speaker 11: it doesn't go in, they don't get a they don't

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Speaker 11: get a field.

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Speaker 4: Goal at ten.

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Speaker 9: Oh.

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Speaker 2: So that's all stat related that these guys don't want

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Speaker 2: to take these shuts.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you're really seriously asking that question.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm surprised that. I mean, these guys just shoot,

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: No.

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Speaker 11: But but in the case of in the case of Luca,

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Speaker 11: in the case of tyres I had Darryl Armstrong for

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Speaker 11: one year as a player, and Darryl, Darryl took it

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Speaker 11: as a personal challenge, and he made two or three

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Speaker 11: of them from like sixty feet.

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Speaker 4: And I'm saying, like, if you, if you took, if

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Speaker 4: you eliminated all.

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Speaker 11: The you know, full and three quarter court heaves that

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Speaker 11: Luca takes and Tyreese takes, these guys would be shooting

566
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Speaker 11: him like they're already shooting a great percentage from three.

567
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Speaker 11: I mean it would be like exponentially higher. So there's

568
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Speaker 11: a different wiring for for some of these guys. And

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Speaker 11: Bert was the same way. Bert would shoot it every time.

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Speaker 11: But you know, you see a lot of guys at

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Speaker 11: the end of at the end of the courts, they

572
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Speaker 11: hang on to it and then you know they hear

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Speaker 11: the buzzer, red leg goes on, and then they liked that.

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Speaker 4: Then they fling it up there.

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Speaker 1: It's funny.

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Speaker 2: When did carrying get out of control? Carrying carrying the ball?

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Speaker 2: I mean, we're already past traveling, but like I go

578
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Speaker 2: back to Stockton and Iverson, it felt like they were

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Speaker 2: the first guys and now everybody carries the basketball.

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Speaker 4: Is that I love I love this show.

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Speaker 11: And you were my mentor at ESPN, which is one

582
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Speaker 11: of the reasons I've had such a great broadcasting career. Probably,

583
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Speaker 11: but I'm not into a fifty or sixty thousand dollars

584
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Speaker 11: fine talking about.

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Speaker 1: Oh oh okay.

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Speaker 4: I know this is a very highly rated show.

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Speaker 1: But it's the concept. It's not the reps.

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Speaker 2: It's that we've we've allowed it in college and high school.

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Speaker 2: How about you can be the anti carrying Sherman say.

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Speaker 4: As if you're one of the ones that's this responsible.

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Speaker 1: It bothers me, It bothers me.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 11: I don't see it as as as that big of

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Speaker 11: that bigger problem. You mean, we had to carry call

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Speaker 11: on tyres and game five or something like this, and

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Speaker 11: so it.

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Speaker 4: Still gets called. I think.

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Speaker 11: I think the bigger thing is that players have adjusted

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Speaker 11: to it, and I don't think players carry the ball

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Speaker 11: as much as they did and perhaps in the old days,

601
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Speaker 11: you know, traveling is another is another big challenge, but

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Speaker 11: the league has made a point of it.

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Speaker 4: I think they've done a better job with it.

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Speaker 2: You're not gonna get fined, I won't now, But there

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Speaker 2: was a chance you were headed down that path. Did

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Speaker 2: I ever tell you when I got Steve Kerr fined.

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Speaker 4: Accidentally?

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Speaker 11: Did you ever tell me? I probably saw it on

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Speaker 11: you know, your Instagram stuff comes up all the time,

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Speaker 11: so you know I may have seen it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: He I think I cost him twenty five grand. He

613
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Speaker 2: was the GM of the Suns and I I was

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Speaker 2: asking him about maybe, hey, you got the mid level

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Speaker 2: exemption for Lebron and he talked about that, and he

616
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Speaker 2: wasn't allowed to talk about like he was joking and

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Speaker 2: the commissioner find him twenty five grand.

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Speaker 11: So yeah, I mean, you know, after the after the

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Speaker 11: Indiana Fever got the first pick, you know, I got

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Speaker 11: a couple of quests and hey, what do you think

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Speaker 11: about Caitlin Clark?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 11: And then I said, well, I gotta be careful about

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Speaker 11: what I say because I don't want to violate any

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Speaker 11: rules here. But you know, I can't get enough of

626
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Speaker 11: these step back forty footers. I mean, this is this

627
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Speaker 11: is the best watching her play, you know. So we're

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Speaker 11: obviously looking forward to they play pretty soon. Yeah, they

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Speaker 11: jump right into this thing. But anyway, yeah, I know, I.

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Speaker 4: Look, I there are certain things you gotta be careful.

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Speaker 4: I know I'm bugging about.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know.

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Speaker 2: All right, we'll rest that voice for Monday against the Knicks.

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Speaker 2: You're gonna need it in the garden.

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Speaker 4: Appreciate that. Good to see us always.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Rick.

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Speaker 2: That's Rick Carlow, Pacers head coach, two time NBA champ.

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Speaker 2: He was there with the eighty six Celtics and coach

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00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 2: of the Mavericks in twenty eleven. All right, let me

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Speaker 2: take a break here. Phone calls coming up play the

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Speaker 8: Oh my God, the play of the day.

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Speaker 1: Play this is the play.

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Speaker 8: Of the day.

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Speaker 4: Check this out.

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Speaker 10: Rods some double team right away, Art has it, gives

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Speaker 10: it right back to Buds and Rugs and Drives checks

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Speaker 10: it up top to Heart Park puts up a three

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Speaker 10: by Josh.

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Speaker 1: Hart for the Devil Town hud. The next leave I

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Speaker 2: sixteen is all five Nick starters scored in double figures.

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Speaker 2: the poll results if you can. From the first forty

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Speaker 2: five minutes or so, well, we decided to put up there.

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Speaker 2: Has Patrick Beverley played his last game in the NBA?

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Speaker 1: Yes? Or no?

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Speaker 3: Right now most people saying no, no, they think he's

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Speaker 3: still got some value left.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know. Should he have played his last

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Speaker 1: game in the NBA.

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Speaker 3: He's already on like a what was it a one year,

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Speaker 3: three million dollar deal or something like that, which is

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Speaker 3: great money, but in NBA terms, not necessarily. Once you

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Speaker 3: start throwing the ball twice at the fans, yeah, and

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Speaker 3: even in that moment, not being like, oh damn, I

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Speaker 3: just really screwed up. Let me go, be really difficult

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Speaker 3: to the media afterwards.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I'd like to know what set him off right so

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Speaker 2: much that you throw the basketball twice, but even still.

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Speaker 3: Throwing the basketball at people, whatever was said is not

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Speaker 3: going to reflect well.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk to Charles Barkley. He'll join us coming up

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Speaker 2: in a half hour from now. Let me go back

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Speaker 2: to something Rick Carlisle talked about. It's the Larry Bird

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Speaker 2: Portland Trailblazers game, and Larry said before the game he

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Speaker 2: was going to shoot left handed, and he did. I

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Speaker 2: don't know how he scored you know, twenty some points

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Speaker 2: left handed against the Blazers, and we just showed a

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Speaker 2: clip of these shots, and I was wondering, let's say

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Speaker 2: the joker announced that he was going to do this.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you got to have somebody who's established, because

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Speaker 2: let's say Luca said, oh, you know, it's so easy

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Speaker 2: to score I'm shooting left handed tonight against the Clippers.

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Speaker 2: We probably have a problem with that. But here's Bird

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Speaker 2: who had had you know, three MVPs and one titles,

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Speaker 2: and you know, he had established himself. And he was like,

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Speaker 2: and I don't know if he I don't know who

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Speaker 2: talked to him and said, you know, why left handed,

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Speaker 2: unless he probably would have been honest and just said,

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Speaker 2: look on board, you know, maybe a challenge, yeah, Pauli.

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Speaker 8: His next opponent after the Trailblazers was the Lakers, and

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Speaker 8: the media thought he was joking around. He said, he

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Speaker 8: announced he was going to do it. Then he said

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Speaker 8: he's saving his right hand for the Lakers, and everyone left.

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Speaker 8: Two days later he played against the Lakers and he

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Speaker 8: played right handed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: I think you're right, though, I think it would be

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Speaker 8: a mixed bag of reaction even to a guy like that.

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Speaker 2: Even if Lebron said this more so April would, they

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Speaker 2: would pile on Lebron, like, oh god.

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Speaker 8: But Jokic just mastered the game. His team is doing great.

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Speaker 8: They'll say it was a November thirteenth game against Charlotte.

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Speaker 8: I think it'd be very mostly positive because he can

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Speaker 8: get away with it. He's likable, he's awesome. But some

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Speaker 8: people are like, oh, you're making a mockery of it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but he did. He took all of his

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Speaker 2: shots left handed in Portland, Yes, Todd.

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Speaker 5: I wouldn't like it to find it disrespectful to the

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Speaker 5: other team. Imagine if Steph Curry after every shot did

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Speaker 5: the shimmy or something like that, or someone flipped their

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Speaker 5: bat every time they got a hit, whether it's a

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Speaker 5: home run or just a single.

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Speaker 2: But he's not being flamboyant when he's doing this. He's

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Speaker 2: just doing something different. And most of the shots that

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Speaker 2: he's taking required shooting left handed.

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Speaker 5: Well, no one wants someone to come across thinking like

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Speaker 5: this sport or this thing I do for a living

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Speaker 5: is so easy. I gotta try, you know, something else.

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Speaker 4: So they had to do it a different way.

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Speaker 1: I don't know we're still talking about it. Yeah, Paul,

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Speaker 1: I love legendary moments.

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Speaker 8: Sometimes they're off putting in the moment, but like if

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Speaker 8: Babe Ruth really called his shot, I don't know if

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Speaker 8: he did. But when bo Jackson ran up that wall,

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Speaker 8: he didn't have to run up the wall after the

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Speaker 8: catch the tunnel.

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Speaker 1: Yes, when he ran for that touchdown. You put a.

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Speaker 8: Little extra sauce once in a while because you can. Yeah,

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Speaker 8: that's how legends are made.

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Speaker 1: Yeah huh, Yes, Marv.

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Speaker 7: That's why you ask every guest about their favorite mat

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Speaker 7: Michael Jordan and Larry Bird story, because those two guys

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Speaker 7: always had a story about trash talking and then backing

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Speaker 7: it up afterwards.

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Speaker 2: Everybody had a story about Bird, and everybody has his

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Speaker 2: story the first time they played against Jordan, they do

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Speaker 2: because Bird was going to talk trash to you.

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Speaker 1: Bird used to do.

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Speaker 2: He'd go tweet tweet, take a seat when he'd hit

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Speaker 2: a shot on somebody who was young.

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Speaker 1: Tweet tweet, take a tweet tweet, take a seat. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: fall We've had.

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Speaker 8: Like six different players tell us they heard Bird say,

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Speaker 8: I can't believe you've got.

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Speaker 2: To get white white guy on to him. I just

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Speaker 2: remember when Dan Marley was guarding him, and he looked

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Speaker 2: at Mark West, I think, and he didn't even talk

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Speaker 2: to Marley. He looked at him and said, I can't

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Speaker 2: believe you got a white guy guarding me, and Marley

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Speaker 2: didn't even know what was going on, such disrespect. Yes,

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Speaker 2: he wouldn't talk to Marley. Poor Marley's out there running

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Speaker 2: around chasing him.

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Speaker 3: And then I can't believe you put a what guy

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Speaker 3: whom he should have had a late roll back?

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Speaker 7: Then, yes, Marmon, Or when Tom Tolbert said I've gone

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Speaker 7: Larry Burton, I say shot and Larry bursay, Yes, it.

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Speaker 2: Is Buddha in San Francisco. Good morning Buddha, No Noboddy.

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Speaker 12: Thanks for calling DP, what's up, Fritzy, what's up? Patrick?

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Speaker 11: Beverly?

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Speaker 1: Dan, Mental Midget?

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Speaker 12: And may all playoff series be as entertaining as the

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Speaker 12: next sixer series?

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Speaker 4: Damn, I mean next don't.

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Speaker 12: Even have Julius Randalls.

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Speaker 4: Yep.

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Speaker 12: But damn this might sound radical, but why do I

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Speaker 12: feel like some NBA team is gonna draft Bronnie and

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Speaker 12: then they're gonna hold him hostage for a trade package

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Speaker 12: with the Lakers, and then Lebron's gonna have to go

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Speaker 12: Liam Neeson and get his kid back.

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Speaker 8: Uh.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's happening.

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Speaker 2: I hope Bronnie goes and plays another year of college basketball.

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Speaker 1: I think he needs it.

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Speaker 2: He might get drafted, maybe he's in a developmental league,

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Speaker 2: the G League, but he's just not ready to play.

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Speaker 1: I mean he might be.

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Speaker 2: Seems like he's a great kid, good defender, knows how

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Speaker 2: to play, but he just he's not ready to play

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Speaker 2: in the NBA. Now, there's a lot of players who

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Speaker 2: aren't ready to play. But you're Lebron James's son. So

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Speaker 2: you walk in and people are going to go, wait,

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Speaker 2: which one's Lebron? Soon that one really? Charles Barkley will

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Speaker 2: join us coming up. Get some more phone calls as well.

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Speaker 2: When can we get to the point where we can

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Speaker 2: compare ant Man to Michael Jordan? Are we there yet?

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Speaker 2: Charles will join us coming up in twenty minutes from now.