1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve camera. 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to stuff you should know 3 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 1: from how stuff Works dot Com? Hi, welcome to the podcast. 4 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 1: I'm Josh Clark. I'm a staff writer here at how 5 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: Stuff Works dot Com. With me, as always is my 6 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 1: very attractive and trustee editor Chris Pallette Chrisis, you're gokie. 7 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: Oh it's great. Thanks asking. Let's talk about antibacterial soap 8 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: if you want to? Sure? Why not? Chris? Should we 9 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: or should we not outlaw antibacterial soap? I don't know 10 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 1: that we need outlaw antibacterial soap, but you know we 11 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:38,120 Speaker 1: need to take a second second look at whether or 12 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: not we should be using it in all of our 13 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: daily applications. Why. Well, simply put, um, it's not that 14 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 1: much more effective than regular soap, and it can breed 15 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:53,600 Speaker 1: stronger bacteria. Yeah. Basically from what I gather, uh, you know, 16 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: from the research I did writing the article. Uh, it 17 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: basically provides this uh, this environment or bacteria where the 18 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: bacteria that happens to survive uh goes on to evolved 19 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: to be resistant to the antibacterial agents. Right right, Okay, 20 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: so we've got this this basically we're providing a staging 21 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 1: ground for rapid evolution and we're making our own worst enemy. 22 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: That's true. That's true because, uh, you know, some of 23 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: the some of the drug resistant strains um can actually 24 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 1: you know, be very very harmful and can be fatal 25 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,199 Speaker 1: in some cases. You know, one that comes to mind 26 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: is Mercia, the Mercy virus, which is a type of 27 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: staff and as Rosie O'Donnell, no staff is no laugh, um. 28 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: And basically Mercia is like a superstaff. It's it's extremely 29 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: resistant to any kind of drugs. And a lot of 30 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: people think that that Mercy has been allowed to develop 31 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: because of antibacterial drugs anti I'm sorry, Well yeah, antibacterial drugs, 32 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: antibacterial cleaning products, which all together make up a term 33 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: that I coined in the article, the antibacterial lifestyle. What 34 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: do you know about that? Well, um, you know, there 35 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: are a lot of people, as as a parent of 36 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: a young child, um, you know, I've seen a lot 37 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 1: of other parents who are trying to keep their kids 38 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: away from germs, which is you know, a reasonable concern. 39 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: So they they buy a lot of antibacterial soaps, they 40 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: buy antibacterial cleaning products, they go to the store and 41 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: pick up an antibacterial basket to put their stuff in, 42 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: or put their kids in the antibacterial card because everywhere 43 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: sponges kinds of and they've figured out a way to 44 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 1: put it into plastics and blankets and and all sorts 45 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 1: of things countertops. I think there's a problem with that, 46 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 1: and that is that if you if you raise your 47 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: child then in in completely sanitized environment, then if you're 48 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 1: gonna be exposed to any allergens, you can't go out 49 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: and sanitize the entire world. So when your kid finally 50 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: goes out to play, they're gonna end up as like 51 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 1: a bubble boy or something because they haven't been supposed 52 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: to any any allergies and haven't been able to form antibodies. 53 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 1: I think there's a there's a certain level of dirt 54 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 1: you need to have in your house to maintain health. 55 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: Wouldn't you agree, Well, that's true. I mean if the 56 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: if the germs are getting stronger by being exposed to 57 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: the animal microbial antibacterial agents, um, you know, people are 58 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:22,839 Speaker 1: not getting stronger by allowing themselves to get over being 59 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 1: exposed to these germs. So one side is getting stronger 60 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: while the other is staying in place, if you will. 61 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,799 Speaker 1: Essentially we're shooting ourselves in our own feet, you know. 62 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 1: And there are other ways to to deal with the 63 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: problem too. I mean, there are other products that are 64 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: not necessarily anti uh antibacterial. We were talking about bleach 65 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: as one. Now it's you know, not something you want 66 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: laying around on your countertops. It can leave a residue 67 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: in in a lot of cases, but bleach can um 68 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: well okay, maybe not all cases, but um, bleach can 69 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: kill microbes just by uh licening them, by breaching their 70 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: cell walls, and they really have no defense against that. Yeah, 71 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: And that's this is where the term for the brand 72 00:04:04,280 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 1: name cleaner Lisol comes from. To lice is to basically 73 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: completely obliterate a cell. So Lifsol's name means obliterate cells, 74 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: which I just think is super cool. Yeah. And the 75 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: reason that that I brought up countertops two is I 76 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 1: read about this countertop material that they have in development 77 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: where um, it's not anim bacterial because it's got a 78 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 1: chemical in it, it's antibacterial because it has thousands and 79 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 1: thousands of tiny little uh, you know, points on the 80 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: surface of it that when bacteria hit it, they rupture, 81 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 1: and so it kills bacteria, not through the use of 82 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: some chemical but because this the surface has lots of 83 00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 1: little points that are that are that pierced the bacteria, 84 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: but are harmless to your hand because you can't even 85 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: feel them, which is a you know, scientific way around 86 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:53,359 Speaker 1: the around the problem. It's excellent, so you get the 87 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: best of both worlds. And well, I'll tell you what, 88 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 1: after researching this article, I've completely given up using antibacterial soap. 89 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: All oh. I suspect that the soap they used in 90 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: the dispensers in the bathroom maybe so, so I'll be 91 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:08,479 Speaker 1: lodging a formal complaint. Let's it for us. Be sure 92 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: to read should antibacterial soap be Outlawed? On how stuff 93 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: works dot com for more on this and thousands of 94 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 1: other topics. Because at how stuff works dot com, let 95 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 1: us know what you think. Send an email to podcast 96 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 1: at how stuff works dot com. 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