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Speaker 2: Think outside the box, Think outside the Box.

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Speaker 3: Saner Gyerg, goodod, morning swear and welcome to the No

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Speaker 3: Dunks Podcast on the Athletic Network.

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Speaker 2: It's Tuesday, November twelfth, twenty twenty four. I'm Jay Ski.

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Speaker 2: It's here in the Classic Factory and alongside me as

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Speaker 2: always Task.

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Speaker 1: Mellice podcast listeners, NBA lovers, this one's for you.

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Speaker 2: Over Yonder making the magic happen. We call him the

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Speaker 2: super Producer. It's Jad. Hello, there, he is, yes here,

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Speaker 2: we are just the three of us here in the Factory.

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Speaker 2: Trey and esh are actually in the bay right now

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Speaker 2: getting ready for Klay Thompson's return tonight to face his

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Speaker 2: Golden State Warriors, a part of the NBA Cup, which

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Speaker 2: we're going to get into later on today's show. Trey

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Speaker 2: will actually join us on tomorrow's No Dunks Podcast to

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Speaker 2: give it a scoop what it was like from inside

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Speaker 2: the arena. So that'll be fun. But we got lots

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Speaker 2: to talk about good games last night. We watched a

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Speaker 2: lot of them on playback. We'll have a little up

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Speaker 2: down report fun. But we had another Reggie and they

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Speaker 2: keep coming. We caught this one live on playback. That

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Speaker 2: was fun, and then we debated who gets credit for

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Speaker 2: this Weggie? Is it Sabonis or Champagne? So we sort

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Speaker 2: of went back and forth, back and forth. They sort

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Speaker 2: of both played a part in it. And I did

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Speaker 2: see that Weggie Tracker officially gave it to Julian CHAMPENNI.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, pop the Champagne. He's the one who shoved it in.

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Speaker 1: I think, yeah, Wemby was extremely close as well. We

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Speaker 2: But you could still say every guy on the court

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a good coaches.

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Speaker 2: Fans, refs, but I guess Champagne gets it.

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Speaker 1: That was awesome. The Saboni's ball, they I think, you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe I'm biased, but I think every Weggie is unprecedented

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Speaker 1: this season. They are coming pretty. They're so unique, and

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Speaker 1: I always say that they're unique in terms of them

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Speaker 2: Some are just three point shots from the wing that

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Speaker 1: Okay, there has been a three point This one was

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Speaker 1: there was a no dip on a three point shot.

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Speaker 1: Have we seen that before where a guy doesn't bring

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Speaker 1: the ball down at all. There's nearly three hands on

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Speaker 2: There was Jamal Murray's where it comes like under the rim.

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Speaker 2: That was unique. Hey, they're all snowflakes, man, they're all snowflakes.

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Speaker 2: You're right, and that was fun to catch that live

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Speaker 2: on playback. We won't really get into that game too much,

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Speaker 2: but let's start with Donovan Mitchell scoring thirty six yeah,

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Speaker 2: as the Cast beat the Bulls one nineteen one to

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Speaker 2: thirteen for their twelfth straight win. Task they're the eighth

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Speaker 2: NBA team to begin the season with twelve straight wins. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: the Warriors have the record with twenty four straight. You

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Speaker 2: remember where we were the night the streak snapped.

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Speaker 1: Oh, and the Warriors lost in the great Ernie Johnson's office.

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Speaker 2: That's right, we were at Ernie Johnson's house.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was respectful enough to allow us into his office.

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Speaker 1: That's a private office. What a kind person?

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Speaker 2: Was that a holiday party?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why we were out there, right, Oh, that's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then the game was on and we were

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Speaker 2: in the office. Oh my god, it was. But anyway,

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Speaker 2: it's still going for the Cavs. Here all are your

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Speaker 1: I was surprised that we didn't start with the OKC

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Speaker 1: the Ernie Johnson story respectfully. No, I know the Catsta well.

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Speaker 1: this game. It felt like a quiet Domin Mitchell season

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he kept them in the game. But then, and

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Speaker 2: Darius Carlin was like the real closer once again in

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Speaker 2: this He had that beautiful Nash like layup with like

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Speaker 2: Maybe Trey Kirby called it in the Bulls are gonna

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Speaker 2: wild right now. He's cooking the perfect game, put perfect season.

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Speaker 2: I guess he put Dean Wade in at the five.

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Speaker 2: That was their center. Really with an all bets lineup

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Speaker 2: crazy shots. Jerome was once again awesome, Like that's what

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Speaker 1: It is. It is delivered, yes, and it inspired the

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Speaker 1: so they had ten more shots than the Bulls in

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Speaker 1: this calvs bench, I mean he brought up those names.

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Speaker 1: There were was showing on the Cavs broadcast showing replays

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Speaker 1: of George Niang's push shot where he doesn't jump at all.

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Speaker 1: You know it is the YMCA Jim push shot. But

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Speaker 1: those guys that you mentioned, Dean waded center, Ti Drome

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Speaker 1: best season. They have found guys. Atkinson deserves a lot

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I forget who said it in our playback stream.

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Speaker 2: It's like, look at this lineup, it looks like a

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Speaker 2: Carrisliver and George Nang all twelve points. I guess Dean

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Speaker 2: but that really turned the tide in this game. And yeah,

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Speaker 2: There's a Hornets game in there is maybe there's a

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Speaker 2: that everybody's got their rise on next week against the Celtics.

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Speaker 2: Could they still be undefeated when they go into that game.

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Speaker 2: We'll see.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they just kind of have a now that you

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Speaker 1: say it that way, they have three games before that

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Speaker 1: Celtics game. Yeah, so they would be fifteen to no.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's in Philly again, home against the Bulls and Hornet.

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Speaker 2: So I did have the teams right, didn't have it

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Speaker 2: fifteen to o, which they you know, not many teams

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Speaker 1: Great point, that's wild. Yes, And the NBA Cup schedulers

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Speaker 1: did pretty well because that Celtics Cavs game is going

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be a massive Cup game too, that

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Speaker 2: that'll be big. Let's keep it moving though you wanted

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Speaker 2: to start with it. Maybe we should shake Gildus Alexander

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Speaker 2: had a career high forty five points in the thunders

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Speaker 2: The first game without him, they went small. They're forced

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Speaker 1: Okay, see, yeah, Shay out there as their tallest guy

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Speaker 1: six to six, but they've got Jalen Williams playing center

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Speaker 1: they kept going to over and over because they had

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Speaker 1: to play their small guys and to talking to coaches,

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Speaker 1: Dagna uses this defensive lineup and I think it helps

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Speaker 2: They go small ball time they do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he had thirty one last night and actually fouled

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Speaker 2: fascinating to see, Like how quickly Hartenstein comes back the

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Speaker 2: They're gont have to do this entire NBA Cup basically

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Size matters, man, it absolutely matters. You're totally right.

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Speaker 2: At least they have so much depth that they can

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Speaker 2: that's a fair counter. I mean, it's fun as hell

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Speaker 1: And Hartenstein wins. Hartenstein's that one's interesting. I don't know

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Speaker 2: I think they're hoping he'll be back before twenty five.

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Speaker 1: But don't call me on that, No, I won't.

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Speaker 2: Let's keep it.

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Speaker 1: This is five to six weeks. I mean it should

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Speaker 2: Cam Thomas's late shooting lifts the nets over the reeling Pelicans.

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Speaker 2: That was crazy. Boston Junior is like naw green, you

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Speaker 2: take him and then he, like Cam Thomas, just side

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Speaker 1: That was a pretty play. This Brooklyn Nets team is

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Speaker 1: He had like a ton of threes, had five threes.

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Speaker 1: He's a guy who hasn't hit a lot of threes

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Speaker 2: Absolutely. So it's just amazing to look at the Eastern

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Speaker 2: that's where we're at. It's Cleveland, it's Boston, and then

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Speaker 2: four five. If the playoffs started today, I guess the

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Speaker 2: Magic would be hosting the Nets in a four to

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Speaker 1: That's very weird. It is strange. You know, Shrewder is

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Speaker 2: I guess the tide breaker works between those two right now.

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Speaker 1: but playing possibility. Somebody's gonna right now, the MAVs are

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Speaker 2: It's just so tough. I mean, this was sort of

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Speaker 2: It wasn't the prettiest basketball you've ever seen, but it's

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Speaker 2: it's brandon Ingram, but like teams have like figured out

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Speaker 2: nets cast cam Thomas the King of the Grenades. What

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Speaker 2: does that mean?

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Speaker 1: Excuse me?

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Speaker 2: He has an incredible shooting percentage as a guy who's

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Speaker 2: And you compare it there to your Ingrams and shooter

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Speaker 2: then an incredible percentage for shooting at laked.

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Speaker 1: That's a good stat Sometimes you look at a stats

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Speaker 1: I do, and I say, that doesn't really mean a

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Speaker 1: lot to me. But you know, I even just mentioned

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Speaker 1: that this one is good laid in the shot clock.

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Speaker 1: To have such a high percentage, you'd think they'd be

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Speaker 1: desperation bombs, which is a grenade.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he almost like flourishes at those type of shots. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he's one of those weird guys where it feels like

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Speaker 2: need a guy draped over him shot clock three two one.

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Speaker 2: You know, he's off balance maybe a little bit. It's

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Speaker 2: like feels like he has a higher percentage hitting those

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Speaker 2: type of shots than like a wide open three catching

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Speaker 2: in rhythm. He's one of those strange players. He's a

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Speaker 2: bucket man.

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Speaker 1: Back at it, back against the wall. You need to

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Speaker 1: do it. Somebody's got to do it. Yeah. I feel

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Speaker 1: like personally sometimes I'm best when my back's against the wall.

449
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Speaker 1: Not in terms of basketball, just terms of podcast.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, waking up super late, just groussy. Maybe maybe Wi

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Speaker 2: Fi troubles never oh, cars not running all that driving

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Speaker 2: in No.

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Speaker 1: No, those are bad. Those are just bad situation.

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Speaker 2: I was panicking the other day because I somehow like

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Speaker 2: had logged myself out of like all my Google Chrome,

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Speaker 2: you know everything. I couldn't get into anything I don't

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Speaker 2: like that like, I'm a.

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Speaker 1: Man of routine.

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Speaker 2: Routine. Yeah, and there's a lot to do in the

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Speaker 2: morning getting ready for this show. Absolutely, and then it's like, oh,

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Speaker 2: just everything's ruined for like twenty five minutes. I got

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Speaker 2: log into this. I gotta like, hey, somebody let me

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Speaker 2: into the YouTube account. You tap fifty seven on your

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Speaker 2: YouTube app to let me in.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you did that. There, you did that this morning.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on it.

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Speaker 1: I got a triple play for that one because because

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Speaker 1: you said seventy one, I didn't see those three numbers

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Speaker 1: up there, so I said, decline, here comes another one.

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Speaker 1: Didn't have seventy one either. I decline that one. But

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Speaker 1: the third one there was a seventy one. We got it.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why I keep getting bumped from our

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Speaker 2: Nodungs YouTube page. But good security measures over there. Good stuff.

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Speaker 2: We also had the Rockets to King care of the Wizards,

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Speaker 2: and we had the Spurs dominating the Kings, and that

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Speaker 2: was big in our pickup. I don't know if you

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Speaker 2: have any notes on those ones or you want to

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Speaker 2: get into the NBA Cup here.

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Speaker 1: How long do you think we're going to talk about

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Speaker 1: the NBA Cup. I can't wait to I have to

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Speaker 1: assess here. Well, if we're not, if it's gonna be short.

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Speaker 1: I got so much to say about the Spurs and Kings.

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Speaker 1: I'm kidding, I don't really. Yeah no, they kicked their ass,

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Speaker 1: they did. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Maybe maybe we can sprinkle some game talking as we

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Speaker 2: go through.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Nice?

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Speaker 2: The NBA Cup, how about that? Segu Okay, So, the

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Speaker 2: second edition of the n season tournament now known as

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Speaker 2: the NBA Cup. You can throw the sponsors name on

491
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Speaker 2: it if you want it. Tips tonight, all thirty teams

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Speaker 2: will play four group stage games across the next several

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Speaker 2: weeks for the chance to reach the knockout rounds and

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Speaker 2: then ultimately the title game on December seventeenth there in

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Speaker 2: Las Vegas. No Dunks will be there, can you believe it?

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Speaker 2: For the semi finals action and the championship game. And

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Speaker 2: of course there are plans to do a live show.

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Speaker 2: We'll keep you posted on that. Boys are going back

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Speaker 2: to the desert.

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Speaker 1: I've never been in the T Mobile arena.

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Speaker 2: Wow, we were supposed to go once.

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Speaker 1: We're supposed to go see a UFC event. Yeah, we're

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Speaker 1: on our way.

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Speaker 2: We didn't get there in time.

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Speaker 1: Out. It starts so early on the.

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Speaker 2: West Times weird in Vegas.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we got there, but I've never.

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Speaker 2: Been in it either. I've never stepped inside the arena.

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Speaker 1: Can't wait now. It looks cool from the outside. Yeah, sure, sure, sure,

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Speaker 1: but we're trying to get to that US event and

511
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Speaker 1: the main card had just finished.

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Speaker 2: Everybody started coming out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we were who were leaving as we were thinking

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Speaker 1: about going, We're like, who won?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, we're gonna be there and we will keep

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Speaker 2: you posted on all of our plans. But yeah, let's

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Speaker 2: go through these groups, maybe make some predictions tasks. I'll

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Speaker 2: give you some of I guess ESPN's Basketball Power Index

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Speaker 2: as like who they pick as the favorites in some

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Speaker 2: of the groups. Most of them are pretty obvious. But

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Speaker 2: East Group A Hornets, Nets, Knicks, Magic, Sixers, Sixers, maybe

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Speaker 2: surprisingly as the group favorite to come out of this. Now.

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Speaker 2: A big part of that is, of course, getting Embiid

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Speaker 2: here tonight. He's going to make his debut in theory

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Speaker 2: for Philadelphia. But Kevin Pelton I saw wrote having a

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Speaker 2: team that started one and six as the favorites to

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Speaker 2: win their group is a good example of how the

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Speaker 2: NBA Cup can differ from the regular season. Yeah, a

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Speaker 2: little Weird's good thing for Embiid though Cup games are

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Speaker 2: never on the second night of back to back. It's

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Speaker 2: all it's good for a beat, good for Paul George.

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Speaker 1: Good schedule.

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Speaker 2: I'm saying, I don't have MAXI though, So do you

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Speaker 2: have a favorite here? Do you think it is the

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Speaker 2: Sixers or should it be the Knicks in your opinion

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Speaker 2: or maybe another day?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is interesting. It seemed like it would be

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Speaker 1: the Magic and the Knicks, and or the Magic or

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Speaker 1: the Knicks. Then Paul Bunkara went out, so that changed things.

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Speaker 1: But it is six Ers Nicks in terms of the scheduling,

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Speaker 1: I mean they're one in one a. I'm not going

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Speaker 1: to come out and predict an NBA Cup winner here,

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Speaker 1: I will say to the NBA app When they promoted

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Speaker 1: this game Nick Sixers, they used photos of their their

545
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Speaker 1: series from last year in the playoffs. That totally makes sense.

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Speaker 2: Do you remember it was amazing?

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Speaker 1: But I don't know. I pay attention to a lot

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Speaker 1: of details, and the photos show the Bell's palsy that

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Speaker 1: Embiid was going through. If you look at it, there's

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Speaker 1: really yeah, yeah, you really have to kind of look

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Speaker 1: at it, but I think it's pretty clear he's going

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Speaker 1: through Bell's palsy facial paralysis. Yeah, as they were going

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Speaker 1: through the nd season. I'm sorry, the playing tournament into

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Speaker 1: this first round series for them weird. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just thinking NBA app. We'll get to

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Speaker 1: the NBA app later on. I get some more critiques,

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Speaker 1: but I think as we go here, there's just good games.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Magic, seventy six Ers even in three days.

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Speaker 1: So seventy six ers have two big games right to

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Speaker 1: start here for MB who doesn't always start well after

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Speaker 1: coming back from a long time. This is first game

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Speaker 1: tonight against the New York Knicks. So maybe the nixt

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Speaker 1: are the favorite.

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Speaker 2: Maybe that's the Yeah, that's why it's odd that the

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Speaker 2: Sixers I think are the favorite, especially when you include

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Speaker 2: the Maxi injury to all this. Like I think I

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Speaker 2: would lean, I would lean towards the next to win

568
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Speaker 2: this group, but like a lot of confidence in really

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Speaker 2: any of these teams they're with the injuries that come

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Speaker 2: into play. For obviously it's the Magic and Sixers.

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Speaker 1: But I'm sorry, So you said Pelton made the Sixers the.

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Speaker 2: Well it's not Pelton, it's the ESPN's Basketball Power Index.

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Speaker 1: For the entire NBA Cup or just no, just a scroup.

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Speaker 2: We're looking at favorites for the group, and I'm not

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Speaker 2: looking too far ahead because you're not gonna know who's

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Speaker 2: playing in the knockout and all that. So we're looking

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Speaker 2: at group favorites. And remember, like again, you win your group,

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Speaker 2: you advanced to the knockout, and then there's a wild

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Speaker 2: card from both the East and the West. So that's

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Speaker 2: why our point deferential comes into play for some of these.

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Speaker 2: And Pelton even noted this, and I think it's right.

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Speaker 2: We didn't really see teams until almost the last night

583
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Speaker 2: of last season's in season tournament start running up scores

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Speaker 2: to like try and help their chances to like backdoor

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Speaker 2: their way into the knockout stage. That might be different

586
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Speaker 2: this year because I think now they've sort of figured

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Speaker 2: it out, Like we might see some massive run up

588
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Speaker 2: scores here early, like when we get like a good

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Speaker 2: team and a bad team or whatever, or a team

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Speaker 2: that maybe won't win their group, but like could help

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Speaker 2: their chances to get through the wild card, Like you

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Speaker 2: may not be taking your foot off the gases.

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Speaker 1: The point here, I thought they were rethinking the way

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Speaker 1: they had their tie breakers this season because coaches were

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Speaker 1: mad that people were running up the score last year.

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Speaker 2: I know it's the same thing, though, it's going to

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Speaker 2: come into play. It's record, But then of course the

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Speaker 2: tiebreakers are point different.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I thought they were going to differentiate the records

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Speaker 1: or the tiebreakers, I should say, because there was some

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Speaker 1: anger last year. But everything is not entirely clear about

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Speaker 1: the NBA Cup. Either way, they have done a better job.

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Speaker 1: I thought of scheduling promoting games, and that's why I

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Speaker 1: thought their tiebreakers could be slightly different. TVD anyway.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, East Group B Pistons, Pacers, Heat, Bucks, Raptors. This

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Speaker 2: one feels pretty open. Yeah, right, Like, this one's very

607
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Speaker 2: open at the top to win this at least, I

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Speaker 2: guess the Heat are currently projected to win thirty percent

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Speaker 2: of BPI simulations. But here we have sort of I

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Speaker 2: guess to the similars, to the Sixers maybe being favorite

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Speaker 2: in Group A, that the Bucks are one of the

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Speaker 2: favorites to win this group and they're one of the

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Speaker 2: worst teams in the league right now, and Dame's not

614
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Speaker 2: going to play to Nighties in concussion protocol in their

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Speaker 2: first game against the Raptors, who have played teams close. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: who do you think this one?

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Speaker 1: Do you?

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Speaker 2: Where do you lean?

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Speaker 1: First of all, I get kind of excited for Buck

620
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Speaker 1: Bucks Pacers and the rivalry that they had last year

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Speaker 1: in the n Season tournament where Gianni's had sixty four

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Speaker 1: and he wanted the ball after the game, but the

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Speaker 1: Pacers wanted it because Oscar she Way scored his first

624
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Speaker 1: point of his NBA career, and so there was that hole.

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Speaker 1: It was. It was kind of a fight that there

626
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Speaker 1: was a battle for it in the in the hallways

627
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Speaker 1: to the locker room. She would scored one point. It

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Speaker 1: was just his one free throw that he hit in

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Speaker 1: that game.

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Speaker 2: I was an NBA Cup game, was it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah? And plus those two teams played five regular

632
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Speaker 1: season games, they were given in additional regular season games

633
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Speaker 1: because of how this all works out, and then they

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Speaker 1: played in the playoffs. So I like that rivalry. I

635
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Speaker 1: suppose I suppose it's the Bucks. When I start looking

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Speaker 1: at the favorites, I kind of want a an underdog

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Speaker 1: team to win the NBA Cup because this is their

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Speaker 1: NBA Finals.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 1: I like to dream and think that the Raptors had

641
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: an outside shot, and I still do at the playing tournament.

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Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Tell me the Raptors were gonna win the NBA Cup.

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Speaker 1: No, probably, probably not, but they've they've been extremely banged up,

645
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Speaker 1: extremely banged up, and giving them an excuse anyway, I'm

646
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Speaker 1: taking of teams like on that level to win the

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Speaker 1: NBA Cup. That's all.

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Speaker 2: I think.

649
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Speaker 1: You want an underduck to make this. The Pacers were fun, Yeah,

650
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: the Pacers were fun in the NBA Cup last year.

651
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 1: They were extremely fun. Do you want to take the

652
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: Are you.

653
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,120
Speaker 2: Taking the Pistons? No?

654
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: No, I'm not taking anybody.

655
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like you're getting two home games, two away games.

656
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 2: You're only playing the teams in your group to obviously advance.

657
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 2: It's like, it's like weird to take.

658
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: The Bucks, though, but it's weird to take everything.

659
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 2: They are the favorites and they sort of have to be.

660
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 2: As dumb as that sounds, I mean it is.

661
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 1: Through the first two groups here, you've picked two teams

662
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: or you've mentioned.

663
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 2: You were like some of the worst teams because of injuries.

664
00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: That they've each won two games. That wouldn't give make.

665
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 2: It because maybe they're looking at it like the regular

666
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 2: season doesn't start until the Cups.

667
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 1: Yeast, Listen, the seventy six are gonna be a totally

668
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: different team. The Milwaukee Bucks, I think, should handle the

669
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 1: Raps tonight.

670
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 2: Without Dame even Yes, beneficial the way people are going

671
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 2: at Dame.

672
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, a little bit. But also the Raps don't have

673
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 1: a big, a big lineup to stop you. Instead of goobo.

674
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 2: Pok, somebody in the eye slow him down that way. Obviously,

675
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 2: Miami could get a boost if Jimmy Butler returns from

676
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 2: his ankle injury. I mean, there's the whole Chris Middleton

677
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 2: situation with the Bucks too. I don't know how close

678
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 2: he is to coming back from his ankle surgeries. So

679
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 2: this whole NBA Cup clouded by injuries. But I'm i

680
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 2: am gonna take the Bucks to win this group, even

681
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 2: though they've barely won. Okay, okay, group ce in the

682
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 2: East the Hawks, Celtics, Bulls, Cavaliers, and Wizards. So this

683
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 2: one's fun right between the Celtics as the favorite to win,

684
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 2: and then the Cavaliers, who haven't lost the damn game

685
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 2: yet and who ESPN's Brian Windhorse has said, winning the

686
00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 2: NBA Cup is a good goal for the Cavaliers, the

687
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 2: NBA's last remaining undefeated team. How do you feel about that?

688
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 2: That a good goal for the Cavaliers to win the

689
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 2: NBA Cup.

690
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 1: I don't think so.

691
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 2: No, really think so either.

692
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: Especially Kenny Atkinson and the way he coaches. I don't

693
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 1: think he particularly cares. Obviously he wants them to win.

694
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: But then you know, you look at the prize to

695
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 1: pool money in this and you start to think of

696
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 1: some of the lesser teams, guys not making as much

697
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: money when you're paid five hundred thousand per person as

698
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: they were last year, which I assume is the same

699
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 1: prize money. It's five hundred k for each person who wins,

700
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: two hundred k for each person who comes up second,

701
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: and one hundred thousand for the third and fourth place

702
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: time for each person for making.

703
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 2: The knockout round. I think you even get some money.

704
00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I think it's fifty Last year was fifty

705
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 1: k for the fifth to eighth place team, So the

706
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 1: teams that make the court. Finally, you start thinking of

707
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: teams like in this particular group that we're talking about,

708
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: the Wizards, not thinking of them. Actually, I take that

709
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 1: back like the Hawks the Bulls to some degree. So

710
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: I don't think it's really that much of a focus

711
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 1: for the Cleveland Cavalier through twelve to oh.

712
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 2: Is this going to be the group where we have

713
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 2: the wildcard team that safe to say, like either the

714
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 2: Celtics or Calves win the group and then the other

715
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 2: one is the team that advances.

716
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, because unless you believe.

717
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 2: In the Hawks, Bulls and Wizards, like really screwing this

718
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 2: by upsetting the Celtics or Casts.

719
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you're thinking one of these teams is gonna

720
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: be four to oh. One is gonna be three and

721
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 1: one that's losing to the other team. That being said this,

722
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: Calves do have to lose games this season.

723
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 2: At some point.

724
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, but it is It is fun. The schedulers,

725
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 1: I think got a little lucky in this one booking

726
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 1: a week from today November nineteenth, Cave Celtics, which could

727
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: be a fifteen to oh Caves team versus the Yes and.

728
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 2: Could very much decide this group. Yeah, as to who

729
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 2: wins at least, Okay, to the West group a Rockets, Clippers, Timberwolves, Blazers,

730
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 2: and Kinks. Here's maybe the team you're looking for. Yeah,

731
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 2: let's take an NBA Cup run. I think you're in

732
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 2: the Rockets. Is at least who I'm sort of implaying.

733
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,719
Speaker 2: Maybe it's the Kings, Maybe it's the Clippers. I don't know.

734
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 2: There's like teams that are not like upper echelon like

735
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 2: title contenders, but maybe like this is their championship.

736
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: This is it. Potentially I'm with you in the Rockets, Okay,

737
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 1: Like the Pacers were able to make the semifinals last year,

738
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 1: it was fun. The Rockets even if they get to

739
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: Las Vegas, that's the team you can you can be

740
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 1: cheering for. Yeah, so yes, especially with the Clippers, are

741
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: you know they're they are beatable. The Wolves have not

742
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: been playing absolute excellent basketball, and this sperson Jazz are

743
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: the bad team. So yeah, I'm willing to jump on

744
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 1: this one that you just mentioned. Let's go Rockets. Wow?

745
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: Why not?

746
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 2: So the group favorites are the Wolves still with like

747
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 2: a thirty one point two percent, And Pelton noticed that

748
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 2: the Kings maybe got a little lucky with this group

749
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 2: play schedule because they will host both the Wolves and

750
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 2: the Rockets, and that game King's Rockets that could be

751
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 2: big for the finale. Right of that group play, and

752
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 2: then their two road games are in the Into It

753
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,479
Speaker 2: Dome and in Portland, so it's like they got, you know, again,

754
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 2: a little this is luck, right, It's like they're getting

755
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 2: the home games for the tougher opponents in the group

756
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 2: and maybe the road games for the easier opponents, although

757
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 2: the Clippers have turned it on in the Into It

758
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,840
Speaker 2: Dome and Portland. Obviously it's probably gonna be last in

759
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 2: this group, but maybe the Kings. I think I'll go

760
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 2: Kings for that reason. I'll go Kings, Okay, but I

761
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 2: love the Rockets, and they're one of my favorite teams

762
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 2: to watch. West Group BA Thunder, Lakers, Suns, Spurs, and Jazz.

763
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 2: So obviously I think the Thunder were like, hands down

764
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:44,320
Speaker 2: the pick to win this thing before the Chet Holmgren injury.

765
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 2: Maybe you've changed your tune a little bit. Then there's

766
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:48,840
Speaker 2: the Suns losing Kevin Durant for the first couple of

767
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 2: games at least of NBA Cup group play, so that

768
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 2: sort of sucks. Where are you going with Group B

769
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 2: here in the West?

770
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 1: Well, first I got to talk about the NBA app.

771
00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 1: They made a mistake here as they review these brackets

772
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 1: they said Wemby and Homegrin renew their Robbaly, Well, come on,

773
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,879
Speaker 1: come on, you just got to take that out the word. Look,

774
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 1: let's we got to make an edit. We have to

775
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 1: make an.

776
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 2: Edit today's show.

777
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 1: You're all over the let's go, let's go.

778
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

779
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 1: I was listen because they do good stories. They have

780
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: like Instagram type stories and and they're good, and so

781
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: I went through and scroll through them just to see,

782
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: if you know, I would be getting excited like a

783
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:31,240
Speaker 1: regular MBA fan for these. Somebody's just got to do

784
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: do some homework here before the before the tournament starts.

785
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 1: But uh, I will say this is a fun group. Yeah, yeah,

786
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 1: in every single group.

787
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 2: Until all the injury is sort of happen like chat

788
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,800
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant. I mean, we don't even know Anthony Davis's status.

789
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:51,280
Speaker 2: I'm not sure what he is with the eyeball there, So.

790
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: I would say chet is the only one guaranteed not

791
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 1: playing in this tournament at all. Yes, we'll be back

792
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: at some point, and who knows what a d at

793
00:35:58,640 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 1: this point.

794
00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:00,800
Speaker 2: You still like the thunder chances though.

795
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 1: Yes they're the thunder Yeah, but still it'll still be

796
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 1: you know, what are they going to do against Wemby.

797
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 1: That's just I guess they're going to go small. Yeah,

798
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: I mean, they really don't have other than Jay Will

799
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: that's their biggest guy on their roster. They don't want

800
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: us to play their dutchman. I guess who is? He

801
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: ain't right quite yet as a as a he's twenty five,

802
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,959
Speaker 1: but he's a young NBA player. So yeah, I'm gonna

803
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 1: take the Thunder. But anyone can win. Really, It's true. Okay,

804
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 1: Spurs and Jazz can't win, I guess, but anybody else can.

805
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 2: Probably not. Pelton noticed that three of the five teams

806
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 2: in this group from the Western Conference have a negative

807
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 2: point differential, the Lakers, Spurs, and Jazz. That's weird. Only

808
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 2: five teams with a negative point differential in the Western

809
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 2: Conference right now, and three of them are in this

810
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 2: in this group. So maybe this is the group that

811
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 2: gets the wild card, you know, could be? Could it

812
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 2: be the Thunder or the Suns winning it and then

813
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 2: the other one getting the wild card spot? Or will

814
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,760
Speaker 2: the Lakers make a magical run once again? Does Lebron

815
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 2: want to defend the NBA Cup right?

816
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: You know, they they are the defending champs, But I

817
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 1: heard it's hard to defend the NBA Cup title.

818
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's never been done. I heard a right, So

819
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,839
Speaker 2: that's I guess I'm gonna take. You know what, I'll

820
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 2: swerve here. I'll take the Suns to win this group,

821
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 2: which is weird without Kevin Durant, but I'll do it.

822
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 2: And then the thunder is a wild card West Group.

823
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 2: CE it's pretty damn good. Mavericks, Nuggets, Warriors, Pelicans, Grizzlies.

824
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 2: I remember when they announced these groups, we were like,

825
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 2: holy crap, this one is stacked. That's changed a little

826
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,919
Speaker 2: bit with how the Pelicans have been a mash unit

827
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 2: and everybody has dropped for them, and they're not really

828
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 2: one of the better teams in the Western Conference, but

829
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 2: everybody else, especially after the Nuggets slow start. Mavericks are

830
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 2: like losing some of these close games. But Warriors have

831
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,280
Speaker 2: been great. You know, Grizzlies when they have John Morant,

832
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 2: they're a different unit. So do you have a prediction

833
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,600
Speaker 2: for West Group C or at least takeaways from this group?

834
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: Well, excited to see Clay back home in Golden State

835
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: before this thing really gets going. I mean, as the

836
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:11,800
Speaker 1: first game of this turn tonight, Maverick's Nuggets. Very exciting,

837
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 1: just period to watch Luca versus Jokic. Those boys played

838
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,320
Speaker 1: on the Night of the Dragon, which was Gorn Dravich's

839
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:23,760
Speaker 1: retirement ceremony this summer when Jokic was looking amazing coming

840
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: off the Olympics. Well, Luca, you know, he did the

841
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 1: waiter to me. He kind of carried the ball and

842
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 1: was just like he was he was chilling. I don't

843
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 1: think he was in that mode. But I love to

844
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 1: see Jokic versus Luca because there they're buds. So yes,

845
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,720
Speaker 1: there's some excitement. Was there a photo of John Morant

846
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 1: promoting this on the NBA app today? Yes, Okay, that's incorrect. Okay,

847
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 1: gh ain't playing. We'll start this, not at least the

848
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 1: start it.

849
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 2: He's week to week. Hopefully, hopefully this is big a

850
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 2: game or two of the NBA Cup.

851
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: But this one is damn difficult. It could be it

852
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: couldna I was gonna say, there could be a dark

853
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,240
Speaker 1: course of one of these weaker teams, but it's probably

854
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 1: a MAVs or Nuggets.

855
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. Three of the West top six teams in point

856
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 2: differential are in this group. So it's a stacked group.

857
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 2: I mean it's probably the most difficult group when you're

858
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,759
Speaker 2: talking obviously, the way the Warriors are playing, and the

859
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 2: Nuggets turning it around, and yeah, the MAVs and even

860
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 2: the Grizzlies. I guess I'll go, man, do I just

861
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,800
Speaker 2: get a boy? That's a tough one. I don't know

862
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 2: who to pick here. I feel like we won't get

863
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 2: the wild card from this group, though, because those other

864
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 2: teams will sort of cannibalize each other.

865
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 1: A little bit. Maybe absolutely, That's.

866
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,919
Speaker 2: Why I like the thunder Suns, those two coming out

867
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 2: maybe of the other group. But give me, uh give

868
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 2: me the Nuggets. I can't get off like the Yokic

869
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 2: Bandwagon right now.

870
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,399
Speaker 1: The way he's playing, it's a little ridiculous. I mean,

871
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: it is good that these aren't back to backs at all,

872
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 1: right right the Cup games period, So teams like the

873
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,800
Speaker 1: Golden State Warriors that make you run on the defensive

874
00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 1: end because they're going sideline to sideline around screens. It

875
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 1: bodes well for the other team to know that they

876
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 1: got to give it all on this night. There's no

877
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: back to backs messing around and no other Warriors are

878
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: becoming a little bit more well known what they are

879
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 1: doing but they're so good defensively as well. The NBA

880
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 1: Cup just bodes well in terms of games that are

881
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:20,439
Speaker 1: gonna look good, They're gonna be fun.

882
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, well are you excited for the NBA Cup? Second?

883
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 2: Go at it? Last year nobody knew how it worked.

884
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 2: I remember that.

885
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

886
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 2: I feel at least this year we were like, okay,

887
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 2: the groups and the point differentials and that stuff. They Okay,

888
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:34,320
Speaker 2: it makes a little more sense now to most people.

889
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 2: So you know, you got the Tuesdays tonight, you got Fridays.

890
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 2: We do this for a couple of weeks. I like

891
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 2: that part.

892
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 1: Yes, the scheduling just in terms of where they are

893
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 1: is a little bit more clear. And the courts are better.

894
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 2: The courts are better. Yeah, yeah for overall, Yes, yeses.

895
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 2: I don't think they're all bangers. I think some of

896
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 2: them are iesore still, but we got to see them

897
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 2: in action too. We see the look a little differently

898
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 2: at times.

899
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 1: But I like the trophy on the floor and a

900
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,400
Speaker 1: lot of these situations and that's good. Okay, way to go, Solomon.

901
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 2: We will that was a Solomon was it was Victor himself. Okay,

902
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:09,360
Speaker 2: we'll be talking to Clay as I said, we'll be

903
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,359
Speaker 2: talking to Trey. We'll talk to Clay too. We'll talk

904
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 2: to Trey on tomorrow show because he'll be there with

905
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 2: USh tonight see the court in person and get Klay

906
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:20,280
Speaker 2: Thompson's return to the bay. Here. Everybody wearing captain hats.

907
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 2: Trace gotta wear a captain hat tomorrow morning. When we

908
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:25,320
Speaker 2: talked to him, I hope right.

909
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: Not a question. Okay, he will do it. He will.

910
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: He'll come through.

911
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 2: Bring him in with some yacht rock JD. When we

912
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 2: talked to Trey tomorrow morning, let's have a little fun

913
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:40,799
Speaker 2: in the updown report. So I just said I was

914
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 2: gonna ride that Jokic horse and the Nuggets to a

915
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:49,720
Speaker 2: group see advancement. Let's talk yok because the guy's averaging

916
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 2: a triple double and a career high in scoring. His

917
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 2: Nuggets are now seven and three despite starting zero to two,

918
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 2: and they were picking up some key injuries and started

919
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,200
Speaker 2: panicking right and they were eking out these winds. But

920
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 2: they got a good record. But even by his standards,

921
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 2: Jokich has been unbelievable to start this year. But will

922
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 2: that be enough to convince MVP voters to anoint him

923
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 2: a fourth and I know it's very early. We're not

924
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 2: even at Thanksgiving, let alone Christmas to start talking about

925
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 2: the MVP, but it's an interesting debate about like, can

926
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 2: this guy actually win a fourth MVP and would you

927
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,920
Speaker 2: have him at the top of your MVP ladder right now?

928
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 1: A couple weeks in I would say, yeah, he has

929
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: to be at the top. Before the season, I didn't

930
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 1: think there was a chance him winning three titles, recently

931
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 1: losing in the second round, and it's just not looking

932
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 1: great for the Denver Nuggets in general.

933
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:42,200
Speaker 2: M hm.

934
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: That being said, this is the best Yokic we've ever seen.

935
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 1: It's only ten games, so I think it is difficult

936
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 1: for him to be able to keep this going the

937
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: entire season. He looks ridiculous. I know he is the

938
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: best player in the world, so maybe that's that's just off.

939
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 1: Maybe he will be able to do it, but as

940
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 1: you said, they started owing to and he's okay, I'm

941
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 1: gonna have to do this all myself. You said the

942
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 1: most points, yes, but he's leading in so many categories

943
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 1: for himself. This is the best Yokitch in minutes play.

944
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 1: He's just playing the most, he's shooting the most, He's

945
00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:18,879
Speaker 1: stealing the most plays, he's blocking the most shots, he's

946
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 1: assisting on the most baskets for the Denver Nuggets, he's

947
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 1: assisting more than half his team's baskets. So it's his

948
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 1: assists percentage is ridiculous. He does everything is His raw

949
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 1: numbers are so good, his pr is so good. There's

950
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: nobody comparing to him right now. They're just literally isn't.

951
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 1: So it's impossible to say I'd give it to somebody else.

952
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 1: Would you give it to somebody else?

953
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 3: No?

954
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: Right now?

955
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 2: No way, Yeah no, you couldn't. You would be lying

956
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 2: through your teeth if you're trying to convince yourself right

957
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 2: now through ten games that he's not the MVP. He

958
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 2: is the most valuable player to his team again, which

959
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 2: sounds insane. He's averaging basically thirty points per game, nearly

960
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 2: fourteen boards, nearly twelve assists. I mean, if he continues

961
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 2: with those stats, no player in NBA history has put

962
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 2: up those numbers for an entire season. The thing with

963
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 2: him is you were saying it like he's leading all

964
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 2: these categories for him compared to seasons prior. I think

965
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 2: what's fascinating is could he have been doing that all

966
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 2: those other seasons prior, and I start to think he

967
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 2: probably could have.

968
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he.

969
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,400
Speaker 2: Realized he doesn't have to. Obviously had more help around him.

970
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 2: Guys were injured, you know, Jamal was maybe better at

971
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 2: a time, and like whatever, he's such an unselfish player

972
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:28,839
Speaker 2: that he doesn't have to be like I gotta go

973
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 2: score thirty to thirty five tonight, I got to shoot

974
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 2: all these threes. Everything, I mean, everything usually goes through

975
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:37,280
Speaker 2: him anyway, but like to another level. But he's realized

976
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 2: when they started, especially slowly, He's like, I gotta do this.

977
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 2: I gotta keep this team up heads above water here,

978
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 2: so I have to do everything. Can he do it

979
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 2: for an entire season?

980
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 1: Yeah?

981
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 2: Well that's the that's like where I go. I don't know.

982
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 2: I don't want to dote him. It feels like if

983
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 2: anybody could, he could because the numbers are insane, and

984
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 2: the clutch stats there's all that too, Like these are

985
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 2: here's the thing, you can't possibly say, these are like

986
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,720
Speaker 2: empty stats. They're like every single one of these points

987
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 2: and boards and assists and whatever is needed for them

988
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 2: to still win, you know, by two on any given night,

989
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 2: by five and overtime for him to get them there

990
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 2: and then.

991
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 1: Drag them in over ten to this, It is wow

992
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 1: watching this team, the fact that he's assisting more than

993
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:23,080
Speaker 1: half his team's basket so every time they come down,

994
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: every second play where he doesn't score, he's making the

995
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: assists like he is the guy. And if you're gonna

996
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 1: be arguing for Yokic, the thing you're also gonna be

997
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: arguing is when he's off the floor, they suck. So

998
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: he's extremely valuable. I thought the Russell Westbrook remedy would heal,

999
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 1: but it's even worse. The bench is even worse than

1000
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 1: the last few years. Twenty twenty two, they're minus eight

1001
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: points per possession when he was off. The next year

1002
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: minus ten. Basically the next year minus eight, so they

1003
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:57,240
Speaker 1: kept losing by several but now it's minus twenty five

1004
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:00,760
Speaker 1: point one. They're getting hammered when he off the floor.

1005
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 1: The Westbrook Strawther Peyton Watson, who's now in the starting

1006
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 1: lineup and sarg who's now being yanked entirely from the rotation,

1007
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: has not worked. Malone said, Okay, we're gonna play seven

1008
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 1: and a half guys. Now that corns up. Now we're

1009
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 1: playing seven guys and it's all Jokic, so he needs

1010
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: to do everything. Like the other night against the Mass

1011
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 1: they lost when he didn't play by eleven points, but

1012
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 1: they won by two because he kicked ass when he

1013
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,920
Speaker 1: was out there. So it's just make up whatever story

1014
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: you want. He's playing multiple sports on this floor. Like

1015
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 1: when he had that centered pass. I think it was Brown,

1016
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,879
Speaker 1: Christian Brown who passed it to him in the middle.

1017
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: It looked like he was playing water pole, like he

1018
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 1: caught it up here and he flung it underneath like

1019
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,919
Speaker 1: he is. He's perfect. He's perfect right now.

1020
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 2: The only counter to him not being the MVP front

1021
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 2: runner is like your bored of it, and like the

1022
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 2: narrative of like you don't want him to have a

1023
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 2: fourth because of for whatever reason, you don't want him

1024
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 2: in that rarefied era of people that have only won

1025
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 2: that many. I forget who wrote this, but it's really true.

1026
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,959
Speaker 2: The more MVP trophies and NBA player wins, the more

1027
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:06,879
Speaker 2: improbable it becomes that he will land another. Whether it's

1028
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 2: fair or not, that tends to be the reality. I

1029
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 2: was going through YouTube the other day and I'm like

1030
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:15,760
Speaker 2: looking at like just like little Yokic sort of clips

1031
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:17,959
Speaker 2: other shows. Shows I've never even heard of. I didn't

1032
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 2: know who these people were. Everybody's got a podcast, and

1033
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 2: I'm watching a couple of them, and it's like there

1034
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 2: were guys just blatantly saying I'm bored of it. I

1035
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 2: don't want them to win. It's like and then the

1036
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,320
Speaker 2: other guy's going, well, come on, I mean, that's a

1037
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,399
Speaker 2: sort of a crazy argument. You're just bored of it.

1038
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, but there is voter fatigue. I didn't even mention

1039
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 1: that at the beginning when I said I didn't think

1040
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 1: he was going to win coming into the season having

1041
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:43,359
Speaker 1: won three their team eliminated in the second round, only

1042
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 1: one title, as they seem to be declining a little

1043
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 1: bit as a team. I didn't mention that I had

1044
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 1: voter fatigue, but it is part of it.

1045
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you also correct me if I'm wrong. Like

1046
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:56,800
Speaker 2: everybody else thought, there's no way he can do more. Yeah,

1047
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 2: Like he already has stupid stats from all of his

1048
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 2: other MVP years and it's like, there's what could he

1049
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 2: possibly do more? And he's leveled up, he has and

1050
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 2: has had to. As we talked about, it feels like.

1051
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:08,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's stepped out to the three point line,

1052
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 1: hitting more threes than he has in his career. He's

1053
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 1: just damn good at it. And this this team is

1054
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 1: just extremely fun. And people who say, uh, the NBA

1055
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,719
Speaker 1: is boring to three point shots, this team doesn't do

1056
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 1: that because Jokic is a monster and can score underneath

1057
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 1: obviously Baltic Palfiic, Palfic, Palfic, Balfics.

1058
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 2: And if he misses, he just tips it in.

1059
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, he's he's just like the master.

1060
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 2: At missing a shot and scoring off his own miss Yeah.

1061
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,520
Speaker 1: He's unique. He's he's very, very good. So my voter

1062
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,280
Speaker 1: fatigu kind of went out the window when they started

1063
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 1: turning it on and he had he knew, as you said,

1064
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 1: we're rowing two. Okay, you know, Porter's not turning on

1065
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 1: Jamal Murry. He's not a monster. Yet he was calling

1066
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 1: out his team. We can't hit threes.

1067
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, nobody could hit a shot.

1068
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 1: The bench sucked. I mean so again, Sarch is out

1069
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 1: of the rotation. I thought the Westbrook search would be fine,

1070
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 1: but Sarge is looking old. They need help on that

1071
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 1: bench because they are so bad. They're getting bombed when

1072
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 1: the bench comes on by twenty five points per one

1073
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:11,359
Speaker 1: hundred possessions. That's a lot, so the starting lineup has

1074
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 1: to overcome that. Now I think they have started to

1075
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 1: play more inspired ball together, like Jamal Murray has improved. Yeah,

1076
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 1: recently they've got this somehow, this inspiration to play together

1077
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 1: with Aaron Gordon out somehow, they look like they're really cohesive.

1078
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 1: And Christian Brown has been extremely good in kcp's spot

1079
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:33,399
Speaker 1: now filling in for him. He's just been good.

1080
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 2: So what's going to be fascinating though, is like, you know,

1081
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 2: fast forward to the end of the season. Let's say

1082
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,839
Speaker 2: the Nuggets are in the fifth or sixth seed, right,

1083
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 2: and he has these type of numbers, but they're like

1084
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 2: a little bit lower in the Western Conference standings. Similar

1085
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 2: let's call it to Westbrook, you know, winning his MVP

1086
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 2: where they are a little lower in the rankings, but

1087
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 2: he's averaging the triple double. And then we have Sga

1088
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 2: on an incredible thunder team, or Tatum on an incredible

1089
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 2: Celtics team, or Mitchell even on incredible Cavs team. That

1090
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 2: is like whatever, ten games clear of where the Nuggets are,

1091
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 2: that's going to be once again a fascinating debate of

1092
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 2: like what does valuable mean? You know, like like you're saying,

1093
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 2: take take Yokic off the Nuggets and they're probably the

1094
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 2: worst team in the league, when people would maybe would

1095
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 2: be right to say, but that'll be that'll be fun. Yeah,

1096
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 2: that'll probably be what happens.

1097
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 1: Right, And that's why I kind of didn't think Jokic

1098
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,760
Speaker 1: would be convincing enough, especially in a very difficult Western Conference,

1099
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 1: to have enough separation towards the top of the standings,

1100
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,239
Speaker 1: because it just feels like they all are going to

1101
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 1: beat each other and so no one's gonna have sixty wins. Sure, sure,

1102
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:43,400
Speaker 1: but there is there is the shape possibility. Especially with

1103
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 1: chet Holmgren being out, he has to do more. And

1104
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 1: so there's that narrative the next couple months if they're

1105
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: still able to win as many games as they have

1106
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 1: in winning, which is gonna be very hard, but if

1107
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 1: they come close to sixty wins, Shay's got a great narrative. Yeah,

1108
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 1: And that's why I kind of thought Luca in general

1109
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 1: is just my thoughts about the Western Conference, because they

1110
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:01,960
Speaker 1: would all sort of be in the fifty to fifty

1111
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 1: five in general, that Luca would win his first especially

1112
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 1: taking his team to the finals somewhere Shay hasn't been

1113
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,839
Speaker 1: so I'm writing a narrative from the last season. Kind

1114
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:12,280
Speaker 1: of sucks.

1115
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think the last season in the past.

1116
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 1: I know, I think voters do care about that, just

1117
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 1: about the history of this player, and it's the fatigue thing.

1118
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 1: And maybe I'm you know, I'm just playing into it

1119
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:29,720
Speaker 1: more because he has won three Maybe I'm playing that card.

1120
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,120
Speaker 2: And I think the whole Westbrook winning the MVP of

1121
00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,359
Speaker 2: the year, he did. You start to wonder, like, will

1122
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:37,720
Speaker 2: any of the voters ever really want to like award

1123
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 2: a team that is, let's say, not top four or

1124
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 2: five in a conference, because that got a lot of

1125
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 2: backlash and still does get to talked about to this day,

1126
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 2: like as great as he was and how important as

1127
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 2: he was to that team, to the thunder to like

1128
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 2: get them to those wins, but they were still like

1129
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 2: much lower in the rankings, like or in the seatings.

1130
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,160
Speaker 2: So I don't know, Like I just wonder if like

1131
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:58,759
Speaker 2: we've almost have like it's like a set rule now

1132
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 2: that they won't vote for someone in it's like your

1133
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 2: top three or whatever it is, whatever arbitrary line you

1134
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 2: put it at. Who knows, Let's hear from you can

1135
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 2: okaj win it's fourth We talking about it too early?

1136
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 2: Damn right we are okay, next one here. The Washington

1137
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 2: Wizards unveiled their City Edition look for the twenty four

1138
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:16,279
Speaker 2: to twenty five season over the weekend. They are nicknamed

1139
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 2: the Beyond Boundaries Uniform, and the look builds off of

1140
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 2: last season's UNI and features a hydrogen blue base. Yes,

1141
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 2: it's a light blue baby blue is what I thought

1142
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 2: it was called. But it's called hydrogen blue. I actually

1143
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 2: like it though. Yeah, up or down on these Wizards

1144
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 2: twenty four City Edition UNI test?

1145
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,800
Speaker 1: Give me the up? Yeah, I am up? Yeah, okay,

1146
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: the blue gets me. The hydrogen blue. I didn't know

1147
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 1: what existed, but then I started looking it up, and

1148
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:47,440
Speaker 1: blue hydrogen is produced mainly from natural gash, so it

1149
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:50,959
Speaker 1: actually is something that is produced. But you know, maybe

1150
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,719
Speaker 1: there's a great inside joke from the Wizards here. They

1151
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 1: could be farting around their teammates. It's kind of exactly

1152
00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 1: exactly while they're wearing this jersey evens a there's a

1153
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 1: joke for you. But the trim with the blue ribble effect.

1154
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 1: Actually looking into these I was buying it. The darker

1155
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 1: blue ripple effect along with that extremely light blue. I

1156
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 1: was buying it now. I don't love the font.

1157
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:18,320
Speaker 2: The District of Columbia. Yeah, I think we did that

1158
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:19,879
Speaker 2: last year right similar.

1159
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 1: It's it's called Old English black letter font to illustrate

1160
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 1: the typography used on eighteenth century maps. At that same time,

1161
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 1: I'm I'm won over by the blue hydrogen hydrogen blue.

1162
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 2: I do like the color for sure. These designs pay

1163
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 2: tribute to Benjamin Banneker too, who was an African American

1164
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:46,879
Speaker 2: mathematician and astronomer who placed forty stone markers along Washington's

1165
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:50,239
Speaker 2: original boundary. I did not know this, No, did you

1166
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 2: know this at all? Literally? I did like a deep

1167
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 2: dive on this yesterday. What the hell are they talking

1168
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 2: about here? So that's sort of cool. And they're gonna

1169
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 2: wear these nineteen times this season with a themed court.

1170
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 1: Gonna go looking for those stone markers. Might be going

1171
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 1: to Washington d C. I'd love to see them, would

1172
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:08,800
Speaker 1: go go perused. It is odd to see Bob Carrington,

1173
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 1: Black Coolbally wearing Navy T shirts underneath underneath Yeah, now,

1174
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:15,799
Speaker 1: I know they both play with T shirts, un't eth

1175
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 1: and I think those look those T shirts. If we're

1176
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 1: going to evaluate how T shirts look. Those under those

1177
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:26,440
Speaker 1: underward T shirts look better than what they usually wear,

1178
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:27,280
Speaker 1: which is white.

1179
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 2: Do you think there's an uptick in NBA players wearing underhair, Yes,

1180
00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 2: I think there is. We've done this show for a

1181
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:37,720
Speaker 2: long time. I don't remember this many guys wearing T shirts.

1182
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,839
Speaker 2: Or maybe it's like it's all that like padded undergarment

1183
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 2: to skims for all I know. I don't know what's

1184
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 2: going on. Yeah, but it feels like more guys do it.

1185
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. I agree.

1186
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:50,399
Speaker 2: It's like taking me back to my high school days.

1187
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:54,320
Speaker 2: That was me, like the one person that was wearing

1188
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 2: the undershirt generally because I was very scrawny, and also

1189
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:00,040
Speaker 2: the jersey was basically too big on me that I

1190
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,040
Speaker 2: needed a T shirt almost to keep it up. They

1191
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 2: didn't have small sizes. They're just like here, everything's an

1192
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 2: extra large. Yeah damn.

1193
00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, they did it to everybody and bub and blouse specifically,

1194
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 1: there's small DIY.

1195
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 2: Now I think they can make them custom jerseys yeah.

1196
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, But also I guess they're more guys are wearing

1197
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:21,800
Speaker 1: pads those Yeah, those shirts.

1198
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 2: Now we need a deep dive on this. What's going on? Yeah? Yeah,

1199
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 2: maybe people maybe the younger generation doesn't feel confident in

1200
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 2: their shoulders and their biceps. It's also a possibility. Uh,

1201
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:35,799
Speaker 2: final up down. This one's really for you. And you've

1202
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,479
Speaker 2: been teasing it all show here. Well are you oper

1203
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 2: down on the NBA app because you're talking about it

1204
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 2: a lot.

1205
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I was thinking about putting together my pet

1206
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 1: peeves from this early in the season, and this is Yes,

1207
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 1: there's a pet peeve with the NBA app. Now, I

1208
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:55,040
Speaker 1: like using it, but when I turn it on, I

1209
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:58,320
Speaker 1: want to know who's playing the NBA games. That literally

1210
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 1: doesn't happen sometimes. I remember last week, November the sixth,

1211
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:04,799
Speaker 1: I open it up. It's about seven to twenty seven

1212
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 1: to twenty five Eastern. I was thinking, Okay, I'm gonna

1213
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 1: see the scores.

1214
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 2: You want to see who's like started the early games

1215
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 2: here exactly.

1216
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,959
Speaker 1: The first thing that pops up Gold State Boston seven

1217
00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 1: thirty pregame. Well, hold on a sec, there's other games happening. Okay,

1218
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:20,359
Speaker 1: so I swipe. It's a roulette for the for all

1219
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 1: the square. I swipe. The next one is Memphis, LA

1220
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 1: in a couple hours. Yeah, are there games being played? Swipe?

1221
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:30,920
Speaker 1: Clippers hosting somebody else? Whoever it was. I think it

1222
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 1: was the Suns. Hold on a second, are there games

1223
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:36,200
Speaker 1: going right? I need to know if their game's going on.

1224
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 2: Did you mention that there?

1225
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course no, but not in the roulette. Yeah,

1226
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:40,959
Speaker 1: they weren't there in the lette.

1227
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 2: Roulette.

1228
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,919
Speaker 1: Man, well there's five there.

1229
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 2: You could. I got you going like this, sweeping, sweeping, sweeping.

1230
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. But they're putting all the games that are deemed

1231
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 1: to them as bigger games as a vote.

1232
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:54,319
Speaker 2: Camember they want you to tune into.

1233
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:57,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yes, yes, but even last night, but we're

1234
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 1: recording here on a Tuesday. On Monday night, there's five games.

1235
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 1: When it was all said and done, there are only

1236
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 1: three spots on the roulette, just three spots. The other

1237
00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:08,840
Speaker 1: two games didn't even happen, which.

1238
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:10,720
Speaker 2: We barely talked about. Yeah.

1239
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then that's the whole thing. They're promoting the

1240
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 1: bigger games. But it is odd that they're totally abolishing

1241
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 1: those games. I know that the wrong word for it,

1242
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 1: because they still do exist, and when you go to

1243
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:28,000
Speaker 1: the scores tab to find them out to find out

1244
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 1: who is playing it was. I think the Rockets were

1245
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 1: playing the Pistons or whoever. The two early games were

1246
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 1: I don't remember them because they were bad games, and

1247
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:36,959
Speaker 1: that's why they left them out. I'm kidding. They weren't

1248
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 1: bad games. That's a bad joke. But they were literally

1249
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 1: promoting other games, just other games, I mean, just one

1250
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 1: of them all.

1251
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 2: You know, it sounds like you want to open up

1252
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:49,000
Speaker 2: the NBA app and go right to the scores and

1253
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:50,080
Speaker 2: the game's currently on.

1254
00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:53,560
Speaker 1: I understand the NBA, the NBA as an organization is

1255
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 1: saying we need to promote particular games.

1256
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 2: And dude, they've turned the NBA into TikTok.

1257
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:02,480
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that.

1258
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 2: I mean it's a version of that, and I'm not

1259
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 2: saying that's a bad idea. I'm sure it works better

1260
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 2: with hiktok.

1261
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:11,240
Speaker 1: Harsh, you're talking about.

1262
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 2: Roulettes and like swiping, that's what it is. The highlights they.

1263
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 1: Do that with now, okay, but TikTok is bang. There's

1264
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 1: a video right in your face with an THEBA app.

1265
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:23,080
Speaker 1: It's still an app. It's still it's still a roulette.

1266
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:25,600
Speaker 1: These are the games. But tell me the games. When

1267
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 1: I'm there at seven twenty and the Rockets and Pistons

1268
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:30,240
Speaker 1: already five minutes into the first quarter and there was

1269
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:33,000
Speaker 1: a second game already into the first quarter. Like, I

1270
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 1: know I'm not.

1271
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 2: The target democratic absolutely right, exact, I don't even know

1272
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 2: you have a phone. They're like, you're old man a phone.

1273
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 1: Listen. I know, I know you're thinking about the TikTok

1274
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 1: thing because they do the Instagram stories. Yeah and yeah, yeah,

1275
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 1: so people come watch. The way they consume games is

1276
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 1: literally stories.

1277
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, fifteen you know, ten second highlights. Yeah. But they're

1278
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:56,440
Speaker 2: pretty good.

1279
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 1: They're pretty They're like even those I got to compliment them.

1280
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:01,480
Speaker 1: They're like three to four minutes of a game.

1281
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, they put a lot in.

1282
00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 1: They put a lot of highlights in. It's not just

1283
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 1: John Moran's three sixty. It's this guy dove into the

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00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 1: front row and retrieved the ball. Anyway, all I'm saying

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00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 1: is that I was gonna do a tough five pet

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00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 1: peeves and that was gonna be one of them. So

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Speaker 1: that's all I gotta say.

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00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 2: Really, but you couldn't find another four.

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00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 1: Uh. We had a lot to talk about.

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00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 2: We we did, but for overall, well, hold on, I

1291
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 2: never found out. Are your thumbs up or thumbs down

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00:59:28,760 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 2: on them?

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00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:31,960
Speaker 1: Mostly I mostly thumbs up? Yeah, I mostly thumbs up.

1294
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 1: But I listen when you tune in early. Do you

1295
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 1: want to know what's what's happening in the other games?

1296
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. I know you're not the target argens either. Yeah,

1297
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 1: but it's like what people complain about with the the

1298
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:47,640
Speaker 1: main networks, and they say, talk about the Utah Jazz please.

1299
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 1: They're literally cutting out again. It was the Rockets Pistons.

1300
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 1: It's like it didn't exist. I had to go to

1301
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 1: a separate tab, which isn't that my hard work? It's

1302
00:59:57,720 --> 01:00:00,040
Speaker 1: not that much work to go click somewhere else. But

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01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:02,760
Speaker 1: in that roulette of an eleven twelve game night or

1304
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 1: something was it was a big night. It was the

1305
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 1: night after the election, so a lot of games are playing. Yep,

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01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 1: just show me what's live. Here's what they just show

1307
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 1: me what's live. You could you could promote all these

1308
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 1: other games and then have those in slot four and

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01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 1: slot five of the roulette.

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01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 2: Why don't you have a feature? It's like when you

1311
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:22,560
Speaker 2: almost start it up, or maybe the first time you

1312
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 2: download it, it's like, how much do you want? Man?

1313
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 2: How much of a sicico are you? On a scale

1314
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 2: of one to five? Oh I'm five, baby, I want everything.

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01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 2: I want to see Pistons Rockets. When I tune in

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01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:34,640
Speaker 2: at seventy fifteen into the app, I want to know

1317
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 2: the score. I want to know it's eight to four.

1318
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 2: But maybe you don't want that level. Yeah, I want

1319
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 2: Marquee games or I want I know you can pick

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01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 2: your team. Right, So if I like, the first thing

1321
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:46,840
Speaker 2: I get is Raptors News or whatever game here, it

1322
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:47,440
Speaker 2: is Raptors.

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01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:49,160
Speaker 1: You have that ability now, yes.

1324
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 2: So let's like take it up at level A notch. Yeah,

1325
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:55,920
Speaker 2: in terms of your NBA sick onness. Yeah, I'm just

1326
01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 2: trying to think of solutions here. Man.

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01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:00,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you. And I have to say that

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01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 1: there were a few teams because I am using this,

1329
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:09,320
Speaker 1: uh my my particular user name, my my my whole

1330
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:10,480
Speaker 1: profile is not my own.

1331
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 2: Oh what's going on? You scamming the system?

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01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:14,800
Speaker 1: He no, no, no, I've just got it. I've got to

1333
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:16,720
Speaker 1: scam this. I mean I've got a lead pass and

1334
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 1: that lead pass liked this, like lead past account liked

1335
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 1: three particular teams. Okay, so I was thinking, hold on,

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01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 1: is that why am my Warriors story?

1337
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 2: I see?

1338
01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 1: So I'm using somebody else's account, is what I'm saying.

1339
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 1: Because my account is locked out or not locked out,

1340
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 1: but it's you know, you get blocked out in your region.

1341
01:01:37,720 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 1: And so I thought, first maybe I'm.

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01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:41,360
Speaker 2: Just a Warriors. You thought it was maybe.

1343
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 1: Just yeah, and that's why I also, I was going

1344
01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 1: to say, maybe I don't top five pet peeves these

1345
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:50,919
Speaker 1: because maybe maybe I'm well, well, I logged out. I said, hey,

1346
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 1: I don't like the I think it was the Warriors,

1347
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 1: Grizzlies and somebody else. But still, again, there's only three

1348
01:01:56,120 --> 01:02:00,600
Speaker 1: games that happened last night. What so you're saying, you're saying,

1349
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:04,440
Speaker 1: as a league, these other two games don't matter. It

1350
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 1: was the Kings and the Spurs and the Rockets and

1351
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 1: the Wizards. They can be in slot four and slat

1352
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 1: slot five of the roulette. What is wrong with that?

1353
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:18,000
Speaker 1: But again, only.

1354
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:22,880
Speaker 2: They're short on guys women to log these games.

1355
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't have to log it. And I already

1356
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:28,360
Speaker 1: told you. I already told you that there were problems

1357
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 1: previewing the NBA Cup and that they're promoting chat. Sorry

1358
01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:36,920
Speaker 1: he's not playing jaw, Sorry he's not playing. So there's issues,

1359
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 1: all right? Anyway, it is you're you're right, You're right

1360
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 1: in that it's become more tiktokie. Yeah, a little bit

1361
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:50,000
Speaker 1: because play people don't consume games the way they used to.

1362
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 1: Ye so, but even that, it's not It's not a

1363
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:55,840
Speaker 1: bad watch to watch the stories in four to five minutes.

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01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:59,320
Speaker 1: I've done it sometimes you you YouTube it, right, yeah? Similar,

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01:02:59,480 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 1: not more.

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01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:02,120
Speaker 2: I don't use the NBA app that much, but I'm

1367
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 2: like sitting in front my computer all the time. So

1368
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 2: it's all on NBA YouTube, NBA dot Com, the actual website,

1369
01:03:08,800 --> 01:03:10,680
Speaker 2: all the other sites that do a good job being

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01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 2: house of highlights giving you the funnier stuff. Stuff like that.

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01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:16,959
Speaker 1: They're improving. I've loved the multiview in the League Pass

1372
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 1: because lead Pass has been better than it has been

1373
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 1: in years past. It's working, knock on what just sometimes

1374
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 1: it hasn't well.

1375
01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 2: Years prior it did not work all that often. But

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01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:29,800
Speaker 2: it's a lot better. All right, Let's get to the game. Wow,

1377
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 2: our pick them game. It is Dallas in Golden State.

1378
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:37,000
Speaker 2: Take on the Warriors. It's Clay's return to get your

1379
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:40,720
Speaker 2: captain hats on. Warriors are favored by two and a half.

1380
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 2: Pretty small line. I guess you said there was some

1381
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 2: movement right it opened, but one one and a half

1382
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:46,360
Speaker 2: for gold Yeah.

1383
01:03:46,440 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 1: During the day yesterday I saw I was one and

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01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:51,720
Speaker 1: a half for Golden State. But I guess the bets

1385
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 1: are on the Golden State Warriors because they had increased

1386
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 1: that line, so they have to win by three or more.

1387
01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:00,320
Speaker 1: But Trey Ash and myself are comfortable at that taking

1388
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:02,360
Speaker 1: the Warriors. Well, you think the MAVs can lose by

1389
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:05,480
Speaker 1: two or lesser and obviously win. Yeah, are you regretting

1390
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:06,200
Speaker 1: your pick already?

1391
01:04:06,240 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 2: You're not regretting it. I'm swerving a bit here. I

1392
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 2: think my gut was to initially pick the Warriors.

1393
01:04:11,320 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 1: Because you kind of get excited for the Warriors fans

1394
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 1: and the team.

1395
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:16,600
Speaker 2: That's gonna be a buzz in the buildings. There will be,

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01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:19,360
Speaker 2: you would imagine with Clay's return. But you know, it

1397
01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 2: would be cool for Clay to have like a hell

1398
01:04:21,160 --> 01:04:23,880
Speaker 2: of a throwback game. I'd be awesome, of course. Then again,

1399
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 2: would it be cool if Clay and Curry are like

1400
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:29,760
Speaker 2: bombing away and trading threes? Yeah, that'd be awesome. The

1401
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:32,800
Speaker 2: MAVs have lost a lot of close games here, but

1402
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 2: like by one or two points.

1403
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:35,960
Speaker 1: They've lost two in a row, so who's to say.

1404
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 2: That doesn't happen again, another like one possession game here

1405
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 2: where they have a chance to win it or whatever,

1406
01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:42,760
Speaker 2: a chance to take it into overtime, something like that

1407
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:45,320
Speaker 2: down the stretch. So yeah, could Dallas win this game

1408
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:46,959
Speaker 2: out right? I think so. Sure.

1409
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:49,120
Speaker 1: They've lost by one point to the Suns and two

1410
01:04:49,200 --> 01:04:52,000
Speaker 1: points to the Nuggets, and it was a great game.

1411
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 2: Those great games. Yeah, so we will see. I'll take

1412
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:57,320
Speaker 2: Dallas otherwise, everybody else has the Warriors to win by

1413
01:04:57,400 --> 01:05:01,600
Speaker 2: three or more again, and we'll have Trey Kirby joining

1414
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:05,000
Speaker 2: us live on tomorrow's No Dunks podcast to talk about

1415
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:07,280
Speaker 2: that game. Him and Esh in the building. If you're

1416
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:09,760
Speaker 2: going to that game, tight, keep your eye out for

1417
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 2: a tall bearded man in a captain's hat. There will

1418
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:15,320
Speaker 2: be a lot of them actually today. But yeah, say

1419
01:05:15,400 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 2: hi to Tray if you see him. I know they're

1420
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:18,840
Speaker 2: going to be doing some maybe some street or stuff

1421
01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 2: outside of the of the Oracle there, so that should

1422
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:23,040
Speaker 2: be fun. We'll have Trey join us tomorrow morning. Thanks

1423
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:24,920
Speaker 2: for joining us right now. Hit the like button, subscribe

1424
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:27,720
Speaker 2: podcast listeners, five star ratings and reviews, and let us

1425
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 2: know thumbs up or thumbs down when it comes to Jokic,

1426
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:35,120
Speaker 2: potentially winning US fourth MVP. Those Wizards, Unis and the

1427
01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 2: NBA app until tomorrow, Clipper bros.

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Speaker 1: You heard it here first.

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01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:44,760
Speaker 2: Have a great time, turn up, Love you guys, awesome.

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01:05:44,600 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us. I remember, look for the tall

1431
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:48,960
Speaker 1: man with a beard and the hat.

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01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:54,240
Speaker 2: Sailor's hat, yes, sailors hat or a captain set neither?

1433
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:57,200
Speaker 2: What do you call it.

1434
01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:59,160
Speaker 1: A boat hat? What do you call it? JD? What's

1435
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:01,480
Speaker 1: the propert ame? Sailorman's sailor's hat?

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01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:06,040
Speaker 2: How captain's hat? Yeah, and that's Captain Clay for sure,

1437
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:07,040
Speaker 2: for sure.

1438
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:11,720
Speaker 1: Skipper's hat maybe? Oh man, that's.

1439
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:15,960
Speaker 2: An old one. It was well, now, Gilligan, he wore

1440
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 2: like he wore a bucket. He wore a bucket hat. Yeah,

1441
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:20,600
Speaker 2: you're right, all right. Let us know in the comments

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01:06:20,600 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 2: what you call those hats. Embrace the eight people,