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Speaker 1: Novel.

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Speaker 2: This show contains adult material and swearing. You have been warned.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, I feel so bad for him, Like,

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Speaker 3: I know, such a sad story.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I quite respect your on dates people going

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Speaker 1: that deep.

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Speaker 3: He gets extra brainy points in his random because that

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Speaker 3: was awful. That's like nightmare of stuff.

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Speaker 2: I'm a savage. Are you bored of modern dating?

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Speaker 1: Meeting the same people from the same apps in the

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Speaker 1: same bar You've only chosen because it's close to your

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Speaker 1: house and you can make your usual quick getaway. It's

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Speaker 1: time to change the narrative on how we find love.

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Speaker 1: It's time to start looking for love in all the

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Speaker 1: wrong places. I'm going on a wild dating adventure, only

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Speaker 1: picking people who are the total opposite of my type.

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Speaker 1: And after twenty eight of these dates in two months.

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Speaker 2: Will I find that special someone?

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Speaker 1: Or well, this experiment proved that I should just give

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Speaker 1: up on dating altogether.

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Speaker 2: It's time to find out.

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Speaker 1: I'm Grace Campbell and this is twenty eight dates later.

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Speaker 2: Hi, Hi rods.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Grace, I'm excited about today's date. Did he energize

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Speaker 3: you at all? Because this guy sitting into DMS this.

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Speaker 1: Rose is the modern day meet you it's the modern

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Speaker 1: day bumping into someone in a corridor. Yeah, now, listen,

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. Yeah, Like, I've had a lot

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Speaker 1: of men, not to brag, like, slide into my DMS,

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Speaker 1: which is an art form. By the way, I've actually

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Speaker 1: dated a few guys with into my DMS and it's gone.

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Speaker 1: One of the worst relationships I've had began from somebody

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Speaker 1: sliding into my DMS. So it's given me a bit

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Speaker 1: of trauma, right, And I worry about men who's sideing

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Speaker 1: to my DMS because I feel that they have a

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Speaker 1: sort of warped idea of what is going to be

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Speaker 1: like going on a date with me, and then it

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Speaker 1: just gets a bit confused. So I was a bit

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Speaker 1: worried about this, if I'm going to be honest.

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Speaker 3: So I actually before we started this, I was like,

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Speaker 3: oh my god, a guy's sitting into a DMS like

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Speaker 3: this is how so many of my relationships happened. But

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Speaker 3: then no one you're saying that, I'm like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 3: mine didn't last either, Yeah, so maybe that isn't a

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Speaker 1: The one thing I'll say, right, and this is what

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Speaker 1: I have realized, is that men who like slide into

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Speaker 1: your dms. They are doing that with so many women,

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Speaker 1: Like it's not just you that they're doing that with.

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Speaker 1: That's a tactic that they're not all of them, right.

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Speaker 1: But one guy I dated who's sitting into my DMS

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Speaker 1: I then later realized that literally, and I only realized

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Speaker 1: this from looking at who else he was following on

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Speaker 1: Instagram every week when we were dating. Is he would

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Speaker 1: always be following your girls and always be stiding into

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Speaker 1: their dms. So I think it's it's a bit of

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Speaker 1: a some men, it's you know, it's their form of

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Speaker 1: being a player, and that's what it bit gets my

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Speaker 1: back up. But i'd actually met this guy before, we'd

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Speaker 1: met on the Canal and Hackney on like a really

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Speaker 1: sunny day last year, and then he followed me on

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Speaker 1: Instagram and never messaged me, and then messaged me like

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Speaker 1: seven months later being like do you want to go

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Speaker 3: And like, Grace, you know that you're saying, low's a

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Speaker 3: guy signing two dms. Has anyone famous ever slid into dms?

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Speaker 1: No, And I will say way less people slided into

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Speaker 3: That's because they don't want to be part of your

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Speaker 3: comedy show. No, I think it is that.

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Speaker 1: I think there was a really peak moment for me

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Speaker 1: when no one really famous. A few comedians have slidden

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Speaker 3: But you know, ck, you look really.

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Speaker 4: Nice to like. And also you did have like eight

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Speaker 2: Okay, so if you if you had to be played

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Speaker 2: in the movie where anyone who would have been joy?

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Speaker 3: Oh, that's really true.

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Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, that's really true. True, that's really true.

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Speaker 1: Actually, when I met him last summer, I hadn't quite

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Speaker 2: He had good chat, but his voice was quite posh.

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Speaker 3: I like his accent.

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Speaker 2: No, he's posh. But he was good looking.

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Speaker 1: He looked he did look like Joseph Gordon Levitt, like

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Speaker 3: I'm actually googling him right now because I can't.

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Speaker 2: He was in Ten Things I Hate About You Love Him?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, did he look like him?

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Speaker 3: You know, he's one of those actors that like, I

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Speaker 1: No, I know, because he's so cute, he's so nice,

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Great.

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Speaker 3: I actually think your accent is pastial than his. It's

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Speaker 3: definitely noting from all your Irish listeners right now, and

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Speaker 3: they're like, I know, because that's the thing, but I

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Speaker 3: don't actually for someone from London like I'm posh, definitely,

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Speaker 3: but I don't have like he spoke like that.

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Speaker 2: It's more of a sort of BBC accent.

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Speaker 3: Okay, expecting when the clip I was expecting like the

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Speaker 3: Crown right, No he doesn't. Okay, well you know what

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Speaker 3: I wasn't on a date with King Charles. Can I

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Speaker 3: just say instantly I like him?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 1: He was good vibes, He was good vibes. We actually

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Speaker 1: had fun, like it was a really fun date.

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Speaker 2: He had great chat.

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Speaker 1: He sat down and the first thing he said was

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Speaker 1: you look amazing, and I was like, that's so funny

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Speaker 1: because it's like you're trying really hard. Yeah, that's nice

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Speaker 1: to Also, he follows me on Instagram.

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Speaker 2: Obviously.

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Speaker 1: On my Instagram, I do all these things where I

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Speaker 1: talk about things that give people the it and get

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Speaker 1: people's like some bit their things. And he said that

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Speaker 4: Well, it's also you know, a lot is to go

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Speaker 4: she puts like fifty it's up and you're walking through

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Speaker 4: mention all the stupid shit she's the night before also

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Speaker 4: the bar and at one point come on to people like,

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Speaker 4: oh my god, I can't leave you're hair. I just

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Speaker 4: to say thank you so much. Saved my life, your massive,

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Speaker 4: massive dick. You're the best person. If I thought best lot.

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Speaker 3: You know what, that's kind of night.

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Speaker 2: He seemed a bit nervous.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I actually think that that shows that he's able

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Speaker 3: to make fun of himself, that he follows you that

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Speaker 3: he was going to make fun of your whole acting,

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Speaker 3: but then was like, Okay, she might actually think I'm

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Speaker 2: And yeah.

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Speaker 3: It's like, if I was going on a date with someone,

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Speaker 3: I would stop them on social media, Like how much

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Speaker 3: research do you usually do on guys before?

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Speaker 1: If I can find their social media, then I will

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Speaker 1: stalk them heavily. But sometimes when you match someone on

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Speaker 1: you meet them, and I don't really want to ask

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Speaker 2: That's happened to me in the past.

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Speaker 3: What's the deepest dive you've done?

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Speaker 1: Oh, I would just go really really far back on

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Speaker 3: You wouldn't check out like LinkedIn, Facebook, Twitter, Like you

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Speaker 3: learn a lot for someone's Twitter.

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Speaker 2: That's true.

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Speaker 1: I just don't ever think to do that because I

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Speaker 1: forget that, like people have LinkedIn because I don't have

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Speaker 3: And like you know, if you've ever done a deep

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Speaker 3: you've gone back really far on Instagram, Like on a date,

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Speaker 1: I don't know if if we followed each other on

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Speaker 2: Say to be honest, yeah yeah yeah.

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Speaker 3: And you know one thing I've never seen on your

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Speaker 3: never really posted it on social media, Like you never

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Speaker 2: No I would.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I would ever post my boyfriend on

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Speaker 3: Does it give you the ick?

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Speaker 1: It just feels a bit like intense, And I feel

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Speaker 1: like I would post it maybe on my like close

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Speaker 1: feels intense, like all these people who follow me I

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Speaker 1: who don't know me, like knowing about my relationship.

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Speaker 2: Like I just don't like that idea. Wow, I feel

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Speaker 2: like you're quite like private about your relationship.

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Speaker 3: I am, Yeah, but like before, like I would have

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Speaker 3: posted about boyfriends. Yeah, And I kind of learned the

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Speaker 3: hard way that like then you're giving people.

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Speaker 1: A right to have an opinion one, and then once

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Speaker 1: you have that, it's almost like it's not your relationship.

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Speaker 3: When break up you're going through a breakup, you're also

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Speaker 3: going through like everybody knowing.

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Speaker 1: And having theories about it and deciding like I just been.

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Speaker 3: Boring breakup, nothing geese happened, Okay.

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Speaker 1: I know, and they're making up all of these Honestly,

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Speaker 1: I've seen it with so many people that go through

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Speaker 1: like public breakups, and it's just like I would just

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Speaker 1: rather not.

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Speaker 3: So how long have you been single?

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Speaker 1: For?

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Speaker 4: About twenty six years now? Really, I've had a lot

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Speaker 4: of fun with a lot of girls. Neverbody found one

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Speaker 4: that I really want to settle down with, like yet

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Speaker 4: may have already met her. Not too sure. You are

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Speaker 4: really funny, really really funny. But no, Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 4: I had rationships in school and at sixth form. But

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Speaker 4: I say, since I have sixth form, yeah, only like

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Speaker 4: long term buddies.

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Speaker 2: Sewhere Yeah of course yeah buddies right? Okay, But is

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Speaker 2: that is that because?

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Speaker 1: Is that because like is it just a mutual thing

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Speaker 1: or if you have girls like wanting it to be more?

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Speaker 4: No, I've had a lot of girls told me to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well I'm at an age now where whoever I

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, but even I've got like a significant X,

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Speaker 1: So there was this weird moment, right, I brought Eddie

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Speaker 1: That's so traumatic. Can you imagine killing your family dog?

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Speaker 1: I think it's definitely not because actually, after a while

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Speaker 3: And I was like, wow, such a sad story.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I quite respect you on dates people going

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Speaker 3: No? And it gives context because if he just turned

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Speaker 3: But now these given context, you're actually like, I can

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Speaker 4: So is this whole podcast dates to try and maybe

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Speaker 1: No, it's not because I've never had any desire to

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Speaker 4: That's good. Everyone wants they can't help.

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Speaker 1: Like I hate small tool nice absolutely.

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Speaker 4: I think the best flirting is when like it doesn't

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Speaker 3: You know, you don't.

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Speaker 4: You don't, you don't acknowledge it's flirting. It's just a

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Speaker 4: subtle I think it's more about like small body language

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Speaker 4: and grace. Please put your top back on. Okay, I

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Speaker 4: to hear that's really appropriate.

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Speaker 3: You know what I've never thought about, like what is

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Speaker 2: Language it is. And that's why a lot of flirting

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm really bad at flirting because I think my

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Speaker 3: I like them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it is.

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Speaker 1: It's so much about your physical language, like I think,

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Speaker 3: And also like you know, putting your hand on their

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Speaker 3: them while you're talking. That is, Yeah, that's flirting, to

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Speaker 1: My main tip for flirting on a day if it's

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Speaker 1: I just feel like when I'm on a day and

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Speaker 3: So I have a question, though, have you ever been

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 2: When I was younger, definitely.

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Speaker 3: It hasn't happened since you were in I don't.

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Speaker 1: Like, I went on a date with a guy like

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Speaker 2: But I was still capable of flying. But I was like,

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Speaker 4: So Grace is at the bar. So I thought, I

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Speaker 2: I was gonna shot, Oh, he's so cute.

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Speaker 3: He's very cute. I like him.

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Speaker 2: That's really cute.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and like you know what, obviously we've we've run

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Speaker 2: Know there was. There was nothing that bothered me. No,

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Speaker 3: He just seems like super honest, really nice. Obviously. I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 3: It's h m it is Hugh Grant.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we're doing on Saturday night.

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Speaker 2: Why ask me out?

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Speaker 4: No, there's a there's for this event on Saturday.

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Speaker 2: I'm around, I've got a gig at five.

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Speaker 3: Where's the gig?

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Speaker 4: Really?

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Speaker 2: Really, Grace, Grace, I know my mum says I have

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Speaker 1: So before a gig, I yawn like unbelievable amounts I

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Speaker 1: No, I never yearned when I'm on stage because I'm

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Speaker 3: Grace, that's just your tactic for putting him back in

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Speaker 2: Get to know. It's more that it's more a nerve thing.

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Speaker 1: it's it's me being nervous. But yeah, the event he

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was throwing a rave. He was throwing a

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Speaker 2: And I was like, no, I'm really sorry.

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Speaker 1: I'm not coming because I haven't got a dog sitter,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I.

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Speaker 2: Would see him again.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I actually think he should see him again.

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Speaker 1: Like one of the things that I liked about this

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Speaker 3: Can I just say, and this is something I didn't

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Speaker 3: mention the start. He clearly has been talking about you

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Speaker 3: cousin's being like this girl Grace I met, I really

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Speaker 3: like her. He's clearly had eyes with you, which is

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Speaker 3: actually kind of like I just think that's that's really

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's cute. Good for him.

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Speaker 3: You have been her best so far. Congratulations you win

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Speaker 3: nothing but possibly a second date.

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Speaker 2: Because you went absolutely nothing.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you'll maybe you'll meet me again if I'm feeling generous.

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Speaker 2: Next time. On twenty eight dates later, I can't go

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Speaker 2: out of someone who is badly dressed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, fucking non branded trainers, ill fitting jeans, a fucking

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Speaker 1: T shirt with the Rolling Stones logo on it describing

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Speaker 1: what I'm wearing right now.

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Speaker 2: Oh does he aroub me? I'm a savage?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, can grab me? Twenty eight Dates Later

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