WEBVTT - The Karol Markowicz Show: I'm Not Hiding and an Interview with Kyle Smith

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, and welcome back to the Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not a great time for Jews. After the slaughter

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<v Speaker 1>in Israel on October seventh, every Jew hater in the

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<v Speaker 1>world decided now is the time to let us all

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<v Speaker 1>know how they feel. Spare me the talk of a

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<v Speaker 1>free Palestine. Anyone who cares about the Palestinians would not

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<v Speaker 1>let them continue in their delusion that they could someday

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<v Speaker 1>get rid of Israel. And let's be real, all Jews,

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<v Speaker 1>if they just continue pushing, that's just not going to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you're listening and you care about the Palestinian cause,

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<v Speaker 1>you should let them know. But look, this is not

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<v Speaker 1>a monologue about Israel, because this isn't a political show.

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<v Speaker 1>It's about being a Jew in America, because this is

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<v Speaker 1>a show about life, and that's my life right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Jews are scared. In response to being scared, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>trend online where Jews posts this image that says, would

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<v Speaker 1>you hide me, and non Jews are posting I would.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand why people are doing it. It's comforting to

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<v Speaker 1>know that people stand with you. I get it, I

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<v Speaker 1>really do, but I don't like it. I don't like

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<v Speaker 1>it because, first of all, I'm not hiding. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>saying I don't have a plan B in case things

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<v Speaker 1>go left. We do, of course we do, but that

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<v Speaker 1>plan involves getting to my friend's house. Shout out to John,

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<v Speaker 1>who has the most guns and AMMO of anyone. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not cowering in your attic. I don't want to be

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<v Speaker 1>in a perpetual victim state. I'm a free person in

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<v Speaker 1>the free world. I'm not hiding. The Jews of the

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<v Speaker 1>early nineteen forties in Europe were not armed, but I am.

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<v Speaker 1>If this moment has been an eye opener for you,

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<v Speaker 1>whether or not you're Jewish, get armed. If you live

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere you can't be armed, and you're posting memes about

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<v Speaker 1>people hiding you, you have to move. Living in this

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<v Speaker 1>kind of fear is no way to live. The truth

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<v Speaker 1>is that people are drawn to strength, not weakness, and

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<v Speaker 1>our weakness will not endear people to our cause. It

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<v Speaker 1>will have the opposite effect of people joining with the

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<v Speaker 1>strong to harm us. We're seeing that happen. Get strong

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<v Speaker 1>and fast. But the other reason I don't like this

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<v Speaker 1>campaign is not about the Jewish part. It's about the

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<v Speaker 1>America part. If a Jewish family is hiding in your house,

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<v Speaker 1>America has probably fallen. That's a bigger problem than whose

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<v Speaker 1>attic I'm in. I'm talking to the wider west here.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate your agreement to hide us, But how about

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<v Speaker 1>we join together so that nobody needs to be hid,

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<v Speaker 1>or do the hiding and defend what we have. How

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<v Speaker 1>About I will never let it reach the point where

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<v Speaker 1>my attic would ever even be in use. We're in

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<v Speaker 1>a pivotal moment right now where we can see where

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<v Speaker 1>these bad ideas have led us. If you're seeing college

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<v Speaker 1>kids marching around and chanting for genocide, supporting peopleeople who

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<v Speaker 1>would put their head on a pike, that didn't begin

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<v Speaker 1>this morning. Our schools are giant factor, but also parents

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<v Speaker 1>who have let their kids hate America and believe we're

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<v Speaker 1>just not that good. Our ideals have built civilization, but

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<v Speaker 1>we've surrendered so much to people who want to destroy

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<v Speaker 1>that civilization. We've let them take control of our schools,

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<v Speaker 1>and they've produced kids who have largely been lied to

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<v Speaker 1>about what the world is like. I mean, have you

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<v Speaker 1>seen the whole turkeys for Thanksgiving? I mean queers for Palestine?

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<v Speaker 1>We mock them, sure, but they're a glaring sign telling

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<v Speaker 1>us that there's something big we need to fix, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's something wrong with society that we need to make

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<v Speaker 1>better before it's too late. We're not going to get

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<v Speaker 1>there by being offered attic space. These people believe that

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<v Speaker 1>they'll have freedom to be themselves in Gaza, and many

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<v Speaker 1>people believe they don't have these freedoms in America. How

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<v Speaker 1>warped is that? Where did it come from to have

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<v Speaker 1>such insane backwards ideas that are fully entertained. Free people

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<v Speaker 1>need to be strong and fight for Western values, for

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<v Speaker 1>American values specifically, and they need to challenge those who

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<v Speaker 1>would crush those values in pursuit of something else. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're motivated to tell your Jewish friends that you stand

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<v Speaker 1>with them, thank you. We appreciate it. We do. It's

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<v Speaker 1>been horrible, and non Jews reaching out to say they

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<v Speaker 1>have our back really has been a bright spot. But

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<v Speaker 1>the actual best thing we can all do is defend

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<v Speaker 1>what we've built in America, the greatest country in the

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<v Speaker 1>history of the world, where we can all be safe

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<v Speaker 1>in this nation we've made. Tell your kids the truth

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<v Speaker 1>about how lucky they are to live in this country,

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<v Speaker 1>how blessed they are, and let's defend this place not

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<v Speaker 1>just for the Jews, but for all of us. Coming

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<v Speaker 1>up next an interview with Kyle Smith. Join us after

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<v Speaker 1>the break. Hi, and welcome back to the Carol Marcowitch Show.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton podcast network on iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 1>My guest today is Kyle Smith, film critic for Wall

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<v Speaker 1>Street Journal and theater critic for New Critarion and a

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<v Speaker 1>longtime friend of mine. Kyle, Hi, thanks for being here, Hi, Carol,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you doing good?

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<v Speaker 2>So?

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<v Speaker 1>You like a lot of things that I don't like,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's sort of been a theme in our friendship.

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<v Speaker 1>You like fruity drinks, you like going to the movies.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like any of that. I super rarely actually

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy a movie. So I wanted to ask you what

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<v Speaker 1>percentage of movies as a film critic would you say

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<v Speaker 1>that you like?

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<v Speaker 2>Well?

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<v Speaker 3>I try to correct for that by only seeing like

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<v Speaker 3>the top hundred or so movies, only reviewing like the

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<v Speaker 3>top hunderds out, but even those, about forty percent of them?

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<v Speaker 1>I guess forty percent. Hi, I think I like like

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<v Speaker 1>five percent.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe, Yeah, I sort of feel like I'm a consumer advocate, like,

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<v Speaker 3>it's my job to steer you away from movies that

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<v Speaker 3>are a complete waste of time and money, particularly time.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm right and right, you know. The wayst example is

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<v Speaker 2>this Scarcezi movie, which I think is terrible.

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<v Speaker 3>Killers of the Flower Moon, universally praised because it's supposedly

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<v Speaker 3>shows the dark side of American history. To me, three

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<v Speaker 3>and a half hours of brutality, it's very monotonous. It's

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<v Speaker 3>like the same musical score is kind of going for

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<v Speaker 3>three and a half hours. Indians getting killed, Indians getting tricked,

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<v Speaker 3>Indians getting poisoned, Indians getting defrauded.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so dispiriting to watch. I can't believe anyone actually

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<v Speaker 2>enjoys this movie.

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<v Speaker 1>So would you say that, I'm like, at my low

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<v Speaker 1>percentage of movies I enjoy, and I really like I try.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a happy, optimistic person. I go into movies being like,

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<v Speaker 1>I am going to love this, and I'm inevitably like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh that was awful, awful, awful, awful. So am I

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<v Speaker 1>just watching the wrong things? Or are movies generally bad?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I think most of them are bad.

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<v Speaker 3>The problem is that movies are kind of the top

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<v Speaker 3>of the pyramid for sure. It's like the thing everyone

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<v Speaker 3>wants to do. Taylor Swift, right, she's the biggest pop

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<v Speaker 3>star on earth, and she wants to make movies. Everybody

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<v Speaker 3>wants to make movies. If you're a novelist, want to

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<v Speaker 3>make movies. You're in TV, you want to make movies. Uh,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, Daily Wire is getting into movies. But you know,

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<v Speaker 3>there's there's so much action in the movie space that

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<v Speaker 3>you know, too many of them are just not great ideas.

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<v Speaker 3>And uh, one one bad influence I think is we

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<v Speaker 3>have the tech companies Netflix, Apple and Amazon are just flooding,

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<v Speaker 3>absolutely flooding Hollywood with money to to invite filmmakers, very

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<v Speaker 3>often prestige filmmakers to make movies that are just not

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<v Speaker 3>very good. The studios wouldn't have made because they would say, well,

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<v Speaker 3>the script isn't good, it's not gonna make any money,

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<v Speaker 3>it's not gonna win the Oscar. No, make sure it's this.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>I saw this Netflix movie The Killer yesterday, David Fincher,

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<v Speaker 3>very highly claimed director.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just a terrible script. It shouldn't have been made.

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<v Speaker 2>But Netflix was like, David Fincher wants to make a

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<v Speaker 2>movie with us Okay, here's a check. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're a film critic, but you've also been a

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<v Speaker 1>culture columnist, politics. You write about a lot of different stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you've written on some really controversial stuff over

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<v Speaker 1>the years, like I remember the anti waiter column that

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<v Speaker 1>got you banned from New York City restaurants, and then

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<v Speaker 1>the women don't Understand Goodfella's column, which you know I

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<v Speaker 1>personally took offense to. But I still like you. Any regrets,

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<v Speaker 1>any thing that you would not write again?

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<v Speaker 3>No, to me, everything I write is obviously true, and

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<v Speaker 3>everything is obviously wrong. You have to have a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of confidence in being a writer. You almost have to

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<v Speaker 3>be arrogant, don't you think to be a writer?

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<v Speaker 1>Almost? Almost?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>And you must have listened to me.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm the one who's on the page five of

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<v Speaker 3>this newspaper and you're not. So my opinion matter is

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<v Speaker 3>more than yours does. So I guess I'm sufficiently arrogant

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<v Speaker 3>enough to think that I have confidence and whatever I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>So you you stand by it all. It's yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's bold. I mean, are you back in New York

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<v Speaker 1>City restaurants or still using an alias?

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<v Speaker 2>I was never banned. I've never stopped going to restaurants.

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<v Speaker 3>All I needed was make fun of unctuous waiters who

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<v Speaker 3>you know, you know how they are, it's particularly true,

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<v Speaker 3>and you're like, they get down on their haunches and like, Hi,

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<v Speaker 3>my name is Jason.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you ever been to this restaurant before.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm thinking I'm pretty sure I ordered food and you

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<v Speaker 3>have some you know, minimum wage person to bring it

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<v Speaker 3>to me, and I won't see you again till it's

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<v Speaker 3>time to pay a check. Yeah, I know how this

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<v Speaker 3>restaurant works, probably right right, you know, it's pretty easy

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<v Speaker 3>to make fun of waiters.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know I wrote this comment.

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<v Speaker 3>Every waiter waitress in the world wrote in to tell

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<v Speaker 3>me how horrible it was that one of the big

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<v Speaker 3>things that problem was. One of the big things they

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<v Speaker 3>had a problem with was I referred to them as servants,

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<v Speaker 3>and he said, no, we're not servants with servers, big

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<v Speaker 3>different servers, not servants. Still tell us servants or servers,

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<v Speaker 3>and I mean one lady wrote in to tell me,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a nurse and in an r room and if

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<v Speaker 3>I see you, I mean, I will let you die

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<v Speaker 3>rather than.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure she's got you know, a very healthy life

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<v Speaker 1>to put.

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<v Speaker 3>Various body uh uh things into my food if they saw.

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<v Speaker 1>Me coming, right, So you, I mean, and so you

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<v Speaker 1>got some pushback, but you're you kind of shrugged it off.

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<v Speaker 1>Anything worse than that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you must get pushed back all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, but I don't. But I'm a nice person

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<v Speaker 1>who does not criticize waiters. So I was just I

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<v Speaker 1>was wondering, how well, but they deserve it.

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<v Speaker 2>They deserve I think Jason is not very dangerous. That

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<v Speaker 2>could be wrong. Maybe it's been poisoning.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a friend actually who had this line where

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<v Speaker 1>she said, when the waiter comes over and says like,

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<v Speaker 1>have you been to this restaurant before? And starts explaining

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<v Speaker 1>the menu, She's like, no, but I have been two

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<v Speaker 1>restaurants before, and I feel like it's going to go

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<v Speaker 1>you know similar, right?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that what you do here?

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<v Speaker 1>But like the top is usually smaller plates, and as

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<v Speaker 1>you get you know, lower in the menu, it's the

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<v Speaker 1>bigger plates. So it might get confusing for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh well, I think I can handle that. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So you once had a column. I actually couldn't find

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<v Speaker 1>it as I was looking for it, but it was

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<v Speaker 1>about how much you love what you do. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think you call people who aren't writers, like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>new suckers or something. I was trying to find it.

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<v Speaker 1>So you love being a writer, and obviously that the

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<v Speaker 1>suckers was jokingly. Do you feel like you've made it?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, definitely. I mean continuing where I came from. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>basically a blue collar shmow. I should be like a carpenter,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, a plumber or something, you know, truck driver.

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<v Speaker 2>My brother puts roofs on houses. That's the kind of

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<v Speaker 2>thing I was made for.

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<v Speaker 3>I should have wound up doing that, but I would

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<v Speaker 3>have been terrible at it.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I'm really bad at building.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm building out those like heat, furniture and stuff, and

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<v Speaker 3>I always build it wrong. I put the thing on back. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I would have been a terrible blue collar worker. But

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<v Speaker 3>I somehow walked into being able to sell words for

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<v Speaker 3>a living.

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<v Speaker 2>How great is that?

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<v Speaker 3>I can just say, awesome, there's more to me money,

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<v Speaker 3>and but they come to me and offered to buy

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<v Speaker 3>my words.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just amazing. It's just such a scam. It feels

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<v Speaker 2>like a grift.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm very grateful for, you know, not having to get

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<v Speaker 3>my hands dirty and I have to work on my feet.

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<v Speaker 2>My dad worked on his feet.

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<v Speaker 3>Six days a week. He was a dog groomer. He

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes worked even on Sunday. He worked literally every Saturday.

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<v Speaker 2>My entire childhood.

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<v Speaker 3>And he was on his feet the whole time. He's

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<v Speaker 3>doing manual labor. And it was in the basement of

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<v Speaker 3>our house and it was really hot down there in

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<v Speaker 3>the summer, so he was kind of boiling hot dogs everywhere,

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<v Speaker 3>dog hair everywhere. Just a miserable job. And that's the

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<v Speaker 3>kind of thing I could easily have fallen into. That's

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<v Speaker 3>what he was made for. That's who my people are.

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<v Speaker 3>As the first person in my family to go to college.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, I didn't know that. It's amazing. And you were

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<v Speaker 1>also in the military.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, yeah, that was the pay for college.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so yeah, I signed up for what I was ORFTC,

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<v Speaker 3>and then I wound up going on active duty in

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<v Speaker 3>Germany and I made to Saudi Arabia for the Gulf War.

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<v Speaker 1>How was it.

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<v Speaker 2>Boring? But also interesting?

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<v Speaker 3>War in general is very interesting and strategically, but the

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<v Speaker 3>day to day reality of being in a personnel service

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<v Speaker 3>company thirty miles and back is just kind of like you,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, a military is like a snake, right, there's

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<v Speaker 3>a deadly head and then there's a long long tail.

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<v Speaker 3>That's probably that long tail that kind of doesn't. So

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<v Speaker 3>it's basically just getting through every day, you know, getting

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<v Speaker 3>meals and delivering mail and stuff like that. That's yeah, keeping records,

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<v Speaker 3>that's that's what we did. So it wasn't particularly exciting

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<v Speaker 3>on a day to day level.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you consider that you're living a public life, like,

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<v Speaker 1>do you get recognized?

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<v Speaker 2>Not really, No, I'm not really on TV that much

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<v Speaker 2>unlike you.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean, now you're going to be recognized all

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<v Speaker 1>over the place after this, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>As you know, I wasn't aware until five minutes ago

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<v Speaker 3>that we're going to do video here.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was just a phone call.

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<v Speaker 1>Here we are doing the video. It's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>everywhere and people are going to stop you in the

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<v Speaker 1>street and say, hey, you're that Kyle Smith.

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<v Speaker 2>Is any be famous that I picture?

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<v Speaker 3>Like? I know Maggie Harman pretty well to me. She's

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<v Speaker 3>famous enough that might actually be annoying. Maybe you're not

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<v Speaker 3>that famous where it's annoying you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm not.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in I love my level of fame. If I

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<v Speaker 1>could keep it at this level. I definitely would because

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<v Speaker 1>the only people who recognize me like me. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>big enough for paters or I mean I have had

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of hate. I had, you know, a note

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<v Speaker 1>left on my door in Brooklyn. I mean, I've definitely

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<v Speaker 1>had that. But I on the street or like in public,

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<v Speaker 1>I've never had somebody be like, you know, I know

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<v Speaker 1>who you are, and I'm going to like try to

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<v Speaker 1>do something to you. The people who recognize me recognize

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<v Speaker 1>me because they've seen me on a you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>podcast that they watch or Fox or any number of places,

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<v Speaker 1>or they read the Post that's a big one. Ever

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<v Speaker 1>since moving to South Florida, I've discovered that everybody reads

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<v Speaker 1>a Post in South Florida. It is the official newspaper,

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<v Speaker 1>so I can recognize a lot from there. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I like this level of fame. I think it's like

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't want to be.

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<v Speaker 3>More famous, right, but there's probably a time when only

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<v Speaker 3>conservatives knew who Sean Head he was, and then he

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<v Speaker 3>kind of weaked.

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<v Speaker 1>Out and he got right right, So like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to try to keep it right here and

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<v Speaker 1>not like I don't know, being famous without a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of money coming with It makes no sense to me.

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<v Speaker 1>It never made sense to me, like fame for the

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<v Speaker 1>hell of it, like influencers and all of that. It

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<v Speaker 1>just it seems like hell to me. Like to be

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<v Speaker 1>famous and not make a lot of money from it.

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<v Speaker 1>Just I don't get it.

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<v Speaker 3>I was reading Matthew Perry's memoir, very interesting book, and

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<v Speaker 3>there's the point in the book where he's just about

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<v Speaker 3>to audition for Friends. The only reason he got the

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<v Speaker 3>audition for Friends was because his friend Craig Burgo turned

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<v Speaker 3>it down.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, really jewish.

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<v Speaker 2>Sitcoms, and you picked the other one.

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<v Speaker 3>They were really good friends at the time, and everyone's

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<v Speaker 3>trying Craig Burgo, you know, take this opportunity.

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<v Speaker 1>What was the one that he picked?

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<v Speaker 2>The show that the lasted duct six weeks?

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<v Speaker 3>I think it also called like just Friends or my

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<v Speaker 3>other Friends, you know, have friends at the title, I

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<v Speaker 3>believe totally forgotten show that it's on.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe ABC.

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<v Speaker 3>Right before he did this audition, Matthew Perry prayed to God.

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<v Speaker 3>He said, please, God, you can do whatever you want

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<v Speaker 3>to me, but just make me famous. That was a

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<v Speaker 3>curse because he was he's been an addict.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, thirty years. I feel like, I'm going to teach

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<v Speaker 1>my kids at being famous is not good and that

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<v Speaker 1>they should not strive for it. Of course, my middle

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<v Speaker 1>son already has a YouTube channel and he really wants

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<v Speaker 1>it to blow up. So yeah, it's it's already a

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<v Speaker 1>hard road to teach the kids. Are your kids into that.

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<v Speaker 2>No, not at the moment. Now.

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<v Speaker 3>They're both kind of more shy than uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>eager to perform in public, So I think that's good.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So a question that I ask all of my guests,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know it's an easy one, but what do

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<v Speaker 1>you think is our largest cultural or societal problem in America?

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<v Speaker 1>And do you think it's solvable.

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<v Speaker 3>It's kind of a trap because when you answer that question,

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<v Speaker 3>you automatically sound really grouchy.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's okay, I am grouchy.

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<v Speaker 1>You sound really grouchy all the time. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>fine to be funny. Oh you're funny, funny, groucy for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>To me, the biggest problem we have is everyone wants

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<v Speaker 3>something for nothing. We have lost track of this idea

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<v Speaker 3>that if you want to get something, you've got to

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<v Speaker 3>pay for it one way or another. It goes all

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<v Speaker 3>the way up and down the line it starts at

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<v Speaker 3>the bottom level. You've seen this TikTok video where there's

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<v Speaker 3>this twenty four year old women in a car and

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<v Speaker 3>she says, I'm going to my service job and I

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<v Speaker 3>hate it in marketing. I have a marketing degree.

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<v Speaker 2>Damn it. I should be making one hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 2>to two hundred per a year. I'm twenty four years old.

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<v Speaker 2>I have no.

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<v Speaker 3>Experience except my work at Starbucks or whatever. No, you

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<v Speaker 3>don't start one hundred.

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<v Speaker 2>And fifty thousand dollars a year. Why do people think

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<v Speaker 2>that that that you get to start rich?

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<v Speaker 3>And on the other end, we have the Paul Krugman's

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<v Speaker 3>of the World, World's Leading Calmness, the World's Smartest Man,

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<v Speaker 3>Nobel Prize winner telling us debt doesn't matter because it's

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<v Speaker 3>money we owe ourselves, so we can spend as much

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<v Speaker 3>as we want on the social safety net, which is

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<v Speaker 3>always fraying and tattered. No matter how many trillions of

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<v Speaker 3>dollars are spending on welfare and everything else. We're just

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<v Speaker 3>spend as much money as we want. It doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 3>That doesn't matter, if you know, don't worry debt and deficit.

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<v Speaker 3>And now we're going to a point we're gonna have

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<v Speaker 3>I think trillion dollar payments just for interest. Now, that's

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<v Speaker 3>that's milestone, trillion dollars worth of interest in.

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<v Speaker 1>My personal favorite of the Paul Krugman nonsense right now

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<v Speaker 1>is when he puts up the charts that show that

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<v Speaker 1>there's no inflation if you take out like food and

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<v Speaker 1>housing and cars and like you know, all the things

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<v Speaker 1>that you buy those if you just remove those things, wah,

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<v Speaker 1>no inflation at all. But yeah, I've seen those videos

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<v Speaker 1>where the young people are expecting to make six figures

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<v Speaker 1>out of college. There was one a few days ago

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<v Speaker 1>that was, like, I work nine to five and I

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<v Speaker 1>live in New York and I have to commute for

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<v Speaker 1>like an hour, and I have never worked nine to five.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even like at my very first job out

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<v Speaker 1>of college was nine to six. I have no concept

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<v Speaker 1>of nine to five. That's amazing, Like, you're so lucky.

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<v Speaker 1>But they, you know, I think that their expectations are

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<v Speaker 1>completely out of whack, and you know, they're young, So

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<v Speaker 1>I end up thinking, like who lied to them? Was

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<v Speaker 1>it their college who lied to them? Was it their parents?

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<v Speaker 1>Like who told them that life was going to be

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<v Speaker 1>six figures out of college? And no commute, Like where

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<v Speaker 1>did that come from? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>I know, I have to think social media is a

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<v Speaker 3>big part of it. I think people are under the

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<v Speaker 3>impression that everybody else is having a better time than

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<v Speaker 3>they are because people, of course they're only putting their

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<v Speaker 3>best selves on Instagram or whatever. Yeah, and it's a

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<v Speaker 3>very distorted view. And we've seen, particularly younger else, very

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<v Speaker 3>high rates with depression, suicidal, idiation and stuff, and I

0:20:05.480 --> 0:20:09.399
<v Speaker 3>think the evidence is pretty strong that that's social media driven.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So is there I mean, is there a fix?

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<v Speaker 1>Like what are we telling our children? Like how do

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<v Speaker 1>we make them have kind of rational expectations. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>my seven year old, who's like fifth percentile, thinks he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to the NFL. But I don't want to like

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<v Speaker 1>ruin his dreams yet. I like, you know, give him

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<v Speaker 1>a minute of believing he's going to be a wide

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<v Speaker 1>receiver and then you know, let him figure it out

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<v Speaker 1>on his own. But I don't know how to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>at the same time, like dream big, do it. You

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<v Speaker 1>could do whatever you want, but also be like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>live in reality. I don't know how to straddle that line.

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<v Speaker 1>Any ideas I.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't know to me there's you know, the old fashioned

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<v Speaker 3>maxims whatnot.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no substitute for hard work really.

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<v Speaker 3>If you you know, I tell my kids if you

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<v Speaker 3>if you're smart and you work hard, there's no stopping you.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's got to be both of those things, and goodbye.

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<v Speaker 1>Just being smart, right or just working hard? You could

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<v Speaker 1>actually do either one.

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<v Speaker 2>Both?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, both is great. Yeah, So end here with your

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<v Speaker 1>best tip for my listeners on how they can improve

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<v Speaker 1>their lives.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, my idea I've always wanted to tell married people

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<v Speaker 3>this or people who are thinking about getting married, is uh,

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<v Speaker 3>think of marriage or your relationship. Let's say you're in

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<v Speaker 3>a committed relationship. Think of it as a job, right,

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's a good job. Maybe it's the best job

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<v Speaker 3>you'll ever had, but think of it as something you

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<v Speaker 3>have to work at every day.

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<v Speaker 2>Like every day you should be thinking of a way

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<v Speaker 2>to please your partner. Do something over in above what's

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<v Speaker 2>a normal? Uh? Just the way you try to you know,

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<v Speaker 2>impress your boss.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, You're you're always sucking up the boss, right if

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<v Speaker 3>you get some FaceTime to your boss and so put

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<v Speaker 3>the effort into it. And also, don't worry about the

0:22:01.760 --> 0:22:05.000
<v Speaker 3>blame chain I think a big part of the successful

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<v Speaker 3>relationship is something goes wrong. You're instinct to say you

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<v Speaker 3>screwed this up, and your partner's going to go, well,

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<v Speaker 3>you screwed up this.

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<v Speaker 2>Underlying thing, and you go, oh wow, well that kind

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<v Speaker 2>blows me away. But then you go, well, you screwed

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<v Speaker 2>up the underlying thing. Of the underlying thing.

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<v Speaker 3>To me, you should just cut the blame chain when

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<v Speaker 3>something goes wrong, you should just acknowledge. Okay, we both

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<v Speaker 3>have our problem. We forgot our passports. Okay, now what

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<v Speaker 3>do we do. I'm not going to say, yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 3>your fault, you forgot that, but well it's your fault

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<v Speaker 3>because they weren't in the place they were supposed to be.

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<v Speaker 3>And right, don't worry about whose fault it is. Just

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<v Speaker 3>worry about how we're going to advance. And I think

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<v Speaker 3>if you don't blame your partner, you make a habit

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<v Speaker 3>of not always blaming your partner for things that you're wrong,

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<v Speaker 3>your partner will respond and not blame you, and you

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<v Speaker 3>don't have a much more solid relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>Kyla, I love that so much. That's like, really not

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<v Speaker 1>where I was expecting you to go. I thought you

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<v Speaker 1>were going to like lay a lashing on people and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, tell them all the ways that they need

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<v Speaker 1>to improve their lives like otherwise. But I love that

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<v Speaker 1>you did a relationship that's really really awesome. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much for being on. You were amazing and I

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<v Speaker 1>can't wait to see you over fruity drinks and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>not movies very soon. Okay, thanks so much for joining

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