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Speaker 3: The writer Kurt Vonnegut, who I'm a big fan of,

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Speaker 3: said that the semi colon said of the semi colon,

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Speaker 3: it's showy. It's chiefly used to show you've been to college.

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Speaker 3: More than two thirds of young Americans say they know

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Speaker 3: how to use it. About the same number test prove

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Speaker 3: actually don't. That's pretty funny. Two thirds of people say

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Speaker 3: they know how to use a semon colan two thirds.

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Speaker 3: Actually don't. Kurt Vonnegett says, you only use it to

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Speaker 3: show you've been to college. That's pretty funny, you know what.

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Speaker 3: I actually use it semi frequently. It to me takes

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Speaker 3: the same role, has the same role as like dot,

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Speaker 3: it's it's it's well.

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Speaker 4: I've heard it described as a soft period, stronger than

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Speaker 4: a comma, but not quite the full stop of a period.

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Speaker 4: I have a big meeting tomorrow, semi colon. I need

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Speaker 4: to prepare tonight.

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Speaker 2: Less cramping. Oh, you're an idiot.

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Speaker 3: So my dot, which I'm a big fan of, is

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Speaker 3: basically using a semi coolon. Yeah, yeah, okay, I think

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Speaker 3: so that's fantastic. So I did want to talk about this.

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Speaker 3: This is actually important. So the stat from a week

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Speaker 3: or so ago really got my attention. Consumer spending is

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Speaker 3: spending goes, the economy collapses, because two thirds of our

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Speaker 3: economy is consumer spending. But right now, half of consumer

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Speaker 3: spending is just the top ten percent. So the burden

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Speaker 4: M I find myself wondering, what's the usual percentage. That's

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Speaker 4: the top ten percent actions. I actually they have more money.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I actually had that, and I don't remember

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Speaker 3: what it was, but it was significantly significant change. Okay,

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Speaker 3: because I wondered that too. I'll have to look that

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Speaker 3: stet up because that is important to the whole thing.

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Speaker 3: But so this news out of that is not that surprising.

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Speaker 3: While the wealthy prosper, middle class Americans increasingly feel the pinch.

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Speaker 3: There is something called the Michigan Index, which I've heard

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Speaker 3: before whenever you get into this topic. It's a common

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Speaker 3: and well respected consumer sentiment gauge that.

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Speaker 2: Factors in a bunch of different things.

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Speaker 3: The Michigan Index, anyway, consumer sentiment was at seventy not

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Speaker 3: to fifty five, where the number one hundred signals neutral

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Speaker 3: feelings on the economy. When you're at one hundred, you're

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Below that, you're mostly negative. But it went from seventy,

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Speaker 3: which was already somewhat negative, to fifty five for the

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Speaker 3: this summer higher income Americans, And for this study, they're

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Speaker 3: calling anybody that makes more than one hundred thousand a year.

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Speaker 3: higher income individual. Probably they have buoyant sentiments. I rarely

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Speaker 3: describe myself as Hey, Joe, how are you doing?

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Speaker 2: Buoyant? I'm gonna start doing that more often. You should.

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Speaker 3: How's it going buoyant? Af I'll say, But in June,

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Speaker 3: middle class confidence gave out and the index went down

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Speaker 3: a lot. And this concern is economists. Course, everything concerns economists,

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Speaker 2: But that doesn't surprise me. Really, things are still expensive.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, uh well, And as I've said before, doesn't everything

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Speaker 3: Yes, yes, it does. Well if you're you know, you

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Speaker 3: follow the stock market at all. My life experience is

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Speaker 3: when it's setting records, like every other day, there's a

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Speaker 3: correction coming. Like my dad, who's been retired for quite

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Speaker 3: some time, says I've lost everything. I've half of everything

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Speaker 3: it happens now and then where you get the big correction.

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Speaker 4: And the correction isn't going to be like the gentle

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Speaker 4: parenting craze. It's going to be more like an angry

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Speaker 4: Catholic school nun in nineteen fifty. Okay, the ruler is

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Speaker 4: going to come down with a resounding smack.

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Speaker 2: God, dang it.

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Speaker 3: Have you all looked at your four to oh one k?

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Speaker 3: I rarely do. I just had to for some form

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Speaker 3: the other day. I looked at my phone kind of like,

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Speaker 3: holy crap. I suppose I shouldn't have been surprised with

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Speaker 3: the stock market constantly set in records and it's pretty

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Speaker 3: tied into that, but eh, yeah, should.

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Speaker 2: I a hardcore long term investor guy.

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Speaker 4: If you miss the drop by a day and the

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Speaker 4: rally by a day, you will lose out on an

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Speaker 4: enormous amount of wealth. That's why you just thrie it out.

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Speaker 4: On the other hand, I look at what's going on

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Speaker 4: right now, and I think, oh God, cash out, cash out,

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Speaker 4: just cash out now, cash out my gold bars or bitcoiner,

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Speaker 4: doge coiner game stop stock? Is that still going on?

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Speaker 3: I don't know, gold bars, Maybe that's the answer. This

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Speaker 3: is breaking news Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanya, who spoke

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Speaker 3: and expressed regret for the killing of a Katari security

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Speaker 3: guard while they were taking out the various Home Oth leaders.

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Speaker 2: There. See, everybody's fine, now.

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Speaker 3: Nen Ya, who's sitting with the president at right as

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Speaker 3: we are. I wonder if that was that part of

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Speaker 3: the deal. Trump said, you gotta call him, apologize, tell

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Speaker 3: him you're sorry, tell him you're sorry and mean it.

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Speaker 2: Someday.

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Speaker 4: I wish they would release the Trump Net and Yahoo

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Speaker 4: tapes like they did the Nixon tapes. I don't know

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Speaker 4: if there are tapes, but you know, like after the

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Speaker 4: Katario attack, the word was Trump just let him up.

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Speaker 2: He yelled at him.

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Speaker 4: But then they subsequently, whether it was a couple hours

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Speaker 4: later or the next day, had a very good column

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Speaker 4: productive chat. So they've obviously got a couple of alpha male,

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Speaker 4: I'd love to hear it someday or just read the transcripts,

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Speaker 2: Ask Semi colon that would all be amusing, agreed.

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Speaker 4: An anti ice protester in Massachusetts forgot to put her

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Speaker 4: and sunk.

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Speaker 2: That's disappointed, tells Fox News.

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Speaker 4: It happened Upton at Massachusett's a small, very blue town

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Speaker 4: in Blue Worcester County, forty miles west of Boston, and

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Speaker 4: a clip of voice can be heard saying, well, that sucks.

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Speaker 4: Look at that, Lucy her car got lost. As the

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Speaker 3: Had a lesson for all of us. Oh, that reminds me.

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Speaker 3: I was practicing driving with my son yesterday. We were

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Speaker 3: took him over to a friend's house and a Saturday night,

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Speaker 3: and it was just like it was I'm sure you've

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Speaker 2: It's like, well, I know he's sure, this is all right,

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Speaker 2: this is really.

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Speaker 2: Times change, people grow. Hey do you guys have a

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Speaker 2: student driver on your on your bumper a little sign?

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Speaker 2: Oh no, I don't. Can you get those? Are you

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Speaker 2: Does it carry any legal weight? Do you get any?

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Speaker 2: You get me? It doesn't care legal weight. But I

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Speaker 4: If I'm on a city thoroughfare where nobody ever goes

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Speaker 4: I say patience, please, student driver, I see that.

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Speaker 2: You're oh, okay, got it, got it, got it? Yep.

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Speaker 4: I won't get up on Not that I would like

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Speaker 2: So cool, You're cool. I'll just call it.

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Speaker 2: I pull around in front of my brake, check him.

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Speaker 2: Then I roll coal on them.

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Speaker 5: I do.

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Speaker 3: I'll do everything you drive them from me, not rolling coal.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, that happened to me just the other day.

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Speaker 3: I was was that a weird four way stop situation?

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Speaker 3: And I said, what is that person doing? And Sam

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Speaker 3: said they got the student drivers sticker? And I was like, oh, okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: they're trying to figure it out. And yeah, my patients

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Speaker 4: I shouldn't have screamed, go you f fing mf or

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Speaker 4: I if i'd seen the sign, I wouldn't have.

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Speaker 2: You know, my son, I think figured out the other day.

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Speaker 3: We were having a conversation about a particular group of

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Speaker 2: Oh, and I think he came upon this realization. And no, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 3: He's very aware of it. He's very aware of the

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Speaker 3: think he figured out why. And it's always been a mystery.

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Speaker 3: Why does this particular group of people struggle with driving

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Speaker 3: I won't I won't name the group, but I've got

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Speaker 3: a great punchline. But it would end our careers today,

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Speaker 3: and I can't. I can't explain why. But it reminded

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Speaker 3: any I don't know, laws of social physics or whatever

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Speaker 3: You can point out their strengths as divided out from

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Speaker 3: other people, but not the weaknesses. And it makes no

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Speaker 4: No, you want another layer of irony if you were

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Speaker 4: to say, because you didn't.

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Speaker 3: Say that group has high home or owner owner high

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Speaker 3: there's a negative stat you can't say that out louder.

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Speaker 3: You're in trouble. Well, so here's the extra load of

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Speaker 4: Can't dry for instance, and particularly in particularly if if

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Speaker 4: Indian kids, you know, they work really hard and they

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Speaker 4: value education. And you weren't even supposed to say that,

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Speaker 3: And my son got My thirteen year old got braces yesterday,

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Speaker 2: To the former Border Patrol.

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Speaker 3: Grand Pooba twenty sixth Chief of the United States Border Patrol.

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Speaker 3: Now retired, Jason Owens joins the Armstrong in Getty's Show

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Speaker 3: this morning.

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Speaker 2: Jason, how are you today?

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Speaker 6: Good Jack, I've never been called a grand puba before.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for that, the big cheese. So what years

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Speaker 2: I actually don't know that. I know the whole dynamic

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Speaker 6: It's not just about the traffic that we're seeing, but

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Speaker 6: think about an adversary like the cartels, that the amount

440
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Speaker 6: of money that they make. And I'll use Del Rio

441
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Speaker 6: sector in Texas as an example, because I was the

442
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,120
Speaker 6: I was the sector chief there before I took over

443
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 6: as chief of the Border Patrol. And that's a that's

444
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:24,920
Speaker 6: a pretty remote, small sector. And of course, back a

445
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Speaker 6: couple of years ago, that was front and center with

446
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Speaker 6: Eagle Pass and you've all the and the Haiti the

447
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 6: Haitian migration. Well that little sector just off of human

448
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:38,560
Speaker 6: trafficking alone, we estimated that the cartels were pocketing upwards

449
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:42,119
Speaker 6: of thirty thirty five million dollars a week. Wow, you

450
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 6: do the you do the math, and that's not narcotics.

451
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Speaker 6: That's nothing but human smuggling in one sector of nine

452
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Speaker 6: across the southwest border, you know.

453
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Speaker 2: For and again my Oklahoma.

454
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Speaker 6: Math that that's over one point five billion dollars a

455
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Speaker 6: year and one sector that they're making. So you're talking

456
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 6: about an adversary that is well funded, unlimited resources, and

457
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,159
Speaker 6: nothing but time to sit there and think about how

458
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 6: they're going to defeat whatever security measures we have in place.

459
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 6: And part of that is destabilizing the communities and the

460
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Speaker 6: governments in Mexico so that they can maintain a foothold

461
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Speaker 6: and keep an advantage. And that's been a persistent problem

462
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 6: for our partners over in Mexico for for years.

463
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a very gentle way of saying it destabilize

464
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:32,880
Speaker 3: the communities, as in, if you're the cops in that town,

465
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 3: you're going to die if you try to take them on.

466
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:35,880
Speaker 2: Absolutely.

467
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Speaker 6: And I would have conversations with my counterparts these they

468
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 6: would be the Satana generals, or they would be the

469
00:25:42,359 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 6: colonels over some are and they would tell you it's

470
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Speaker 6: not that we don't want to respond or we don't

471
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Speaker 6: want to help out. It's just that the life we're

472
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Speaker 6: living down here is very different.

473
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Speaker 7: You know.

474
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Speaker 6: They literally deal with at times gun battles in the streets,

475
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Speaker 6: people that are being murdered, dismembered. There are legitimate threats

476
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 6: to their families, and they go out there and do

477
00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 6: the job. So you have to you have to respect

478
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 6: and empathize with the situation that they're in. So I

479
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 6: don't always buy into, Oh, it's just it's just a

480
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,160
Speaker 6: matter of corruption. No, There's there's a lot of factors

481
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 6: that get taken into account and that I think any

482
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 6: of us in that situation would be faced with.

483
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Speaker 3: Yeah, culturally, that's why we've got to hang on to

484
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,640
Speaker 3: our culture of not having very much corruption, because man,

485
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,640
Speaker 3: once you lose that, it's tough to turn it around.

486
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Speaker 2: That's rough.

487
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Speaker 3: So talking about it, talking about the border, when we

488
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 3: just say the border, we all assume the border between

489
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Speaker 3: US and Mexico, but you say, there's a lot more

490
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Speaker 3: going on between the United States and Canada, now the

491
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 3: longest unde defended border in the world.

492
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Speaker 6: It was always funny to me every time I would

493
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Speaker 6: talk to a member of Congress or staffers or in

494
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,439
Speaker 6: many cases reporters, and it still didn't get covered as

495
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 6: much as I would have liked. People forget, Yeah, yes,

496
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 6: there's about two thousand miles between US and Mexico, but

497
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:59,840
Speaker 6: there's four thousand miles a border between US and Canada

498
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 6: if you don't count that vertical slash that Alaska shares,

499
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 6: which is another fifteen hundred miles. And oh, by the way,

500
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 6: we have thousands of miles of coast and most people

501
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 6: don't think about it in these terms. We actually share

502
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 6: a border, a coastal border with Russia because of Alaska.

503
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 6: So we have some legitimate things to think about in

504
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 6: vulnerabilities that exist along our multiple borders and the threats

505
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 6: both state and non state actors that are out there.

506
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,400
Speaker 6: And I think that deserves a space and the discussion

507
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 6: anytime we're talking about national security and especially border security,

508
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 6: because if you're going to resource an agency that's responsible

509
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 6: for keeping us safe, you have to take into account

510
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 6: all that they're responsible for, and not just one piece

511
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 6: that the mainstream media wants to focus on.

512
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:51,120
Speaker 3: What percentage of border patrol is on the southern border

513
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Speaker 3: versus the northern border.

514
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Speaker 2: Do you have any idea?

515
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 6: Typically about ninety percent of our workforce is deployed on

516
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 6: the southwest border, so if you can, you can do

517
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,679
Speaker 6: the matt roughly twenty thousand agents depending on.

518
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 2: The season that we're in. You know, you have ninety percent.

519
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 6: Deployed down to the southwest border and the rest are

520
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 6: on the northern border, our coastal sectors and in many

521
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 6: cases overseas and our offices.

522
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,200
Speaker 3: Yeah. Man, if it ever becomes a real problem, or

523
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 3: maybe you're saying it already is of things coming across

524
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Speaker 3: the Canadian border.

525
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 2: I remember when I drove into Calgary one time.

526
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 3: I was headed up to Calgary, just crossing on a

527
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 3: two lane highway in the middle of nowhere. There's basically

528
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 3: nothing there. Showed them a driver's license and drove in.

529
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 3: That's all there was to it.

530
00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 2: How many drugs are coming across the Canadian border at

531
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Speaker 2: this point? Do you have any idea?

532
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 6: Well, and that's that's the million dollar question, so to speak.

533
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 6: That we get asked a lot of times what's getting away.

534
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 6: There's what we catch, and that's between us and the

535
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,800
Speaker 6: Office of Field Operations that works at the ports of entry.

536
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 6: Ours is the job between the ports of entry. So

537
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 6: there's what we actually catch. What we may see and

538
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 6: are not a to get to. But then there's that

539
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 6: great void, that great unknown and that exists even along

540
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 6: the Southwest border that a lot of people don't realize

541
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Speaker 6: as well. There's so much of the border that we

542
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 6: don't have persistent surveillance. We don't know what's coming across

543
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 6: or what's going on because we're not out there and

544
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 6: we don't have the technology in today's age, it's hard

545
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 6: to imagine that there's actually still areas out there where

546
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 6: there's no cell coverage, there's no reception, and you need

547
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 6: that for the technology to be effected. So there's a

548
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 6: lot of spaces out there we don't have that situational awareness,

549
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 6: and so we can't tell you with any level of

550
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 6: certainty what's coming across, what's getting away. And that's one

551
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 6: of the things I always said. It keeps us up

552
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 6: at night. It worries is because we know the potential

553
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Speaker 6: and you don't want to have something like that happen

554
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 6: on your watch.

555
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, that is true.

556
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 3: Jason Owen's twenty six chief of the United States Border Patrol.

557
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Speaker 3: Appreciate your time today as very interesting stuff.

558
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Speaker 6: Good talk to you, Jack, Thanks for having me.

559
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Speaker 7: You bet you Jack Armstrong and Joe, The Armstrong and

560
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:13,480
Speaker 7: Getty Show, The arm Strong and Getdy Show.

561
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 8: Over the weekend, the rapper known as four Extra lost

562
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 8: two fingers in a fireworks accident. He's now changed his

563
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 8: name to three Left. The good news is he's no

564
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 8: longer throwing up gang signs.

565
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Speaker 4: You know, I saw that first punchline coming, but I

566
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 4: enjoyed it a lot. Three Left and get it and

567
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 4: be careful with fireworks, kids, gender matting Madden.

568
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Speaker 2: This update coming up next segment.

569
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Speaker 4: But first, a handful of consumer oriented stories that I

570
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 4: found intriguing and or amusing. Street journal reporting vanity sizing

571
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 4: is forcing petit women into kids' clothes, aging styles, and

572
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 4: the supersizing of apparel is pushing shoppers to unusual lengths

573
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 4: to find something that fits. And the subheadline is so

574
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 4: much glitter, Yeah you better like sparkles. Yeah, the petit

575
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 4: women who have you know, been forced to go for

576
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 4: children's sizes because the American girth has been increasing.

577
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 2: More on that in a moment, but everybody knows this right.

578
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 4: The apparel industry for years has been employing vanity sizing,

579
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 4: making clothes larger and larger while keeping the sizes the same,

580
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 4: making matters worse for some slender shoppers. Is a current

581
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 4: fashioned woman in which oversized looks are in vogue. The

582
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 4: result clothes so big that slender people are swimming in them.

583
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know you with young people, they're all wearing

584
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 2: super giant, baggy clothes. This gallows five to fives.

585
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 4: Try petite clothing, but because those fits are designed for

586
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 4: shorter people, the shirt sleeves stop above wrists and the

587
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 4: genes don't even graze her ankles. Children's clothes fit better,

588
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 4: but the styles aren't sophisticated. Too many flowers and so

589
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 4: much glitter. Final note on this, The average American woman

590
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 4: weighs about one hundred and seventy pounds, which is thirty

591
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 4: pounds more than she did in nineteen sixty. According to

592
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 4: the National Center for Health Statistics, average is one seventy

593
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 4: That is correct? Is that average or median? Because if

594
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 4: there's like one fifty thousand pound woman, that's why it's

595
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 4: like the Bill Gates walks into a bar, thing right

596
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 4: your net worth, your average networth, et cetera, et cetera.

597
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 3: Bill Gates could walk into a bar and change the

598
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 3: average in net worth a fifty thousand pound woman is

599
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 3: not going to roll into the bar or probably the buffet. No,

600
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 3: oh my, that was insensitive, and she was presently thousand pounds.

601
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 2: She needs some tough talk. Look at yourself when you

602
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 2: hit thirty thousand, didn't you think you know? I got

603
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:05,719
Speaker 2: to change something. This is terrible. There's something terribly wrong here.

604
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 5: Because the average height for a woman is five to three,

605
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 5: So if we're averaging at one seventy, that seems pretty portly.

606
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't think that that sounds high to me.

607
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 2: That sounds really you arguing with the name National Center

608
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 2: for Health Statistics. I guess I am, But that just

609
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 2: that sounds high to me. There's a lot more to

610
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 2: get to, Okay.

611
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 4: The Brazilian butt lift surgery is a procedure that enhances

612
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 4: the size and shape of someone's rear ends through a

613
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 4: fat transfer.

614
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 2: Don't I know what, I've had two of them.

615
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 4: It's often considered a dangerous procedure by experts since there's

616
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 4: a possibility of death, infection, and more. I would restructure

617
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:55,239
Speaker 4: that sentence. Once you have death. Infection is kind of irrelevant, right,

618
00:33:55,600 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 4: but more the more. But this popular and freaking stupid surgery,

619
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 4: do you seriously think having a bigger butt is going

620
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 4: to materially change your life.

621
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:10,479
Speaker 2: It's better. It's for bigger or higher you lift. It's both,

622
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 2: it's both. I'd like mine higher. It makes it not

623
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 2: only higher.

624
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 4: Not only is BBL surgery risky, there's one bizarre, rather

625
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,280
Speaker 4: gross side effect that comes along that the potential patients

626
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:21,960
Speaker 4: should consider.

627
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 2: It's called the BBL smell, and it is real. So

628
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 2: this doctor, what?

629
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 6: Uh?

630
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:34,280
Speaker 4: There's often a smell expected for BBL patients after sweating

631
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 4: or sitting for long periods, an aggressive scent.

632
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:42,600
Speaker 2: Because I'm guessing because you have crevasses. No, no, uh.

633
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 4: There are uh tissue deaths, which is a BBL complication

634
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 4: and unhygienic habits that could cause someone with BBBL to

635
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 4: have a smelly b Huh.

636
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 3: This is the worst thing you ever done, by a lot. Yeah,

637
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 3: We're done, horrible.

638
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 4: I am issuing an important warning to people who might

639
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,800
Speaker 4: fall prey to this insidious procedure. If a patient was

640
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 4: quote overfilled with fat during the procedure, fat necrosis, which

641
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 4: is when faty tissue in the butt dies, can occur

642
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 4: as a result of RADSID smell develops.

643
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, I imagine you smell like a dead body.

644
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 4: Yes, infections that need antibiotics, hospitalizations, and even that leads

645
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:25,240
Speaker 4: to sepsis.

646
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 2: Okay, well, this has been a treat, Thanks Joe. What

647
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 2: is that coloni you're wearing? Black plague? Is that dead raccoon? No,

648
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 2: that's my BBL surgery gone wrong.

649
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 4: I'm telling you, ladies, Oh beautiful, the way you are

650
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 4: all right, God.

651
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 3: You gotta wear the kids clothes and you smell like

652
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 3: a dead body, and things are going well for you.

653
00:35:51,000 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 2: It's the arm Strong in Getty show. It's because she's

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Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getty