1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:09,800 Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? Welcome to move the sticks, DJ, Buck 3 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: with you Buck? What is going on? 4 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:11,639 Speaker 2: Man? 5 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:16,159 Speaker 3: Man? Just a great football weekend on the horizon. I 6 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 3: love this time of year because everything is in full earnest. 7 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 3: You got the NFL that is in swing. Now we're 8 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 3: get into a good part of ball because we're more 9 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 3: than five weeks into it, so people have kind of 10 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 3: settled in. 11 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 2: You can see the identities. 12 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 3: And then in college football we're right in the center 13 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 3: of the competitive conference races where now we begin to 14 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 3: see these big matches. We're seeing people begin it to 15 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 3: build momentum to the college football playoff. 16 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 2: So it doesn't get any better than this. 17 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 1: I want to ask you a question I was asked 18 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: the other day, which an interesting conversation, which was this 19 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: full disclosure. Was talking with Rock Heward and Brock said 20 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: he didn't remember when he was playing, you know, late nineties, 21 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: early two thousands, as many guys missing practices and games 22 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 1: as we see now, Like he just felt like some 23 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: of these injury reports are insane. So I'll just be 24 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: curious from your time playing and then from even the 25 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,479 Speaker 1: early scouting stuff. If you think it's different with how 26 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: with that and why do you see it? 27 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 3: I think it's different because I still believe and I 28 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 3: love all the sports science and all the other stuff, 29 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 3: but these are it's still a part of me that 30 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 3: believes old school methods still work. 31 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 2: And you know, it's funny. 32 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 3: I heard Terrence Crford talk about this when he was 33 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 3: preparing for Canelo, that you can't be ready for a 34 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 3: fight without sparring. And I think sometimes we do a 35 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 3: disservice to our teams by not taking them through the 36 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:36,839 Speaker 3: riggers to prepare them to play. 37 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 2: And what happens is, you know, every Sunday when you 38 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 2: go to. 39 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 3: A game, unless you've been to a pro game, I 40 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 3: don't think people understand how fast and how physical it is. 41 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 3: And you have to prepare your team to be able 42 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 3: to operate at that level. And sometimes that means a 43 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 3: more rigorous training camp. Sometimes it means a more rigorous 44 00:01:56,160 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 3: offseason program to get your team ready to handle what's 45 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:02,919 Speaker 3: a hit. During the season. You can take off the paths, 46 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 3: do some of those things, but you got to get 47 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 3: the team ready. And I don't know if players are 48 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 3: fully ready, and I don't know if some team builders 49 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:15,520 Speaker 3: prepare those teams to be ready for the grind, but 50 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 3: the grind is real and your team has to be 51 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 3: ready for the marathon that the NFL season is. 52 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's one part of it, for sure. 53 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: I agree we talked about like you used to be calloused, 54 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: like you just kind of build up that callous and 55 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 1: then you could withstand it. But the other thing I 56 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 1: was thinking of was bigger picture, and I see it. 57 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 1: I don't know how it is across the country, but 58 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 1: obviously he's a high school coach in California. You know 59 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 1: when we were kids, like if you made the playoffs 60 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: in high school, it means you had a really good year. 61 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 2: You know. 62 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: Now in high school, we had a team in San 63 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: Diego that won CIF went oh to ten, They went 64 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: oh to ten, and then so that lowered him a division, 65 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 1: lowered them way down the divisions, and they went and 66 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: beat up on some smaller schools and won won a 67 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: championship after not winning one regular season game. Yeah, if 68 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: you look at now college football used to man, you 69 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 1: lose one game in college football two games and so 70 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: you know Rose Bowl, you know, no, nothing like that 71 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: ruined your whole season. Now twelve teams in the playoff, 72 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: everybody gets the Bowl game, all this kind of stuff. 73 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: If you look at the NFL added a wildcard, Basketball, NBA, 74 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: half the freaking league gets in the playoffs. You look 75 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 1: at baseball, they added a wildcard. So the emphasis and 76 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: importance on the regular season is gone. Like these kids 77 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: have grown up since high school, buck going, all that 78 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: matters is that I'm healthy once we get to the playoffs, 79 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: Like I don't need to be Yeah stuff, you know. 80 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 2: DJ, I didn't think about that. 81 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 3: It's funny, right, because I'm being honest with you, like, 82 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 3: and I'm prov myself of being a baseball fan, like 83 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 3: the baseball playoff format this year. 84 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 2: Fans like whoa, how many when? But that's the three? 85 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 2: That's five? What? Like what's going on? 86 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 3: And you operate with a different urgency when you know 87 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 3: you have the fallback up. Hey man, we just need 88 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 3: to be top seven, we just need to be top eight. Hey, 89 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 3: let's just get into the thing and see what it 90 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 3: looks like. So you make decisions based on that as 91 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 3: opposed to they're only four teams going. 92 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 2: You got to go. I need you to go. 93 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 3: I need you to make it and so some of 94 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 3: the load management things or some of the things that 95 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 3: if it's questionable, A will sit you out as opposed 96 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 3: to a we need you to play. 97 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 2: It's different, but you're right, people operate differently. 98 00:04:19,440 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 3: They played differently when there's an urgency and there's like 99 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 3: a hard and fast line in terms of making it 100 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 3: or not making it. And yeah, I do think that 101 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 3: as I won't say it's ruined the game, but it's 102 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 3: changed the game when it comes to the way that 103 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 3: we go about it, even coaching with an urgency, because 104 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,159 Speaker 3: before you used to coach like it's all or nothing. 105 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 3: If we don't win this game, it's over. We could 106 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 3: be talking about a game in the second week of September. 107 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 3: If we lose, it's over. It's not the same thing. 108 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 3: Now you can play anybody like, we lose, we'll get better, 109 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:51,239 Speaker 3: let's get down the stretch. 110 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 2: It's changed. 111 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 1: I'd be curious to go back and look at the 112 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 1: numbers before they added the extra wildcard in the NFL, 113 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: and it was only a sixteen game season, but the 114 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 1: percentage of players who played sixteen games versus now, even 115 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: though there's seventeen games. If we just said how many 116 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: players in this current format, play sixteen of the seventeen games. 117 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 2: I'd be shocked if they. 118 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: Weren't playing more. Guys weren't playing sixteen games pre you know, 119 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: before the extra wildcard and way before they went to 120 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: seventeen games. 121 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, look, DJ, I'm with you on this. 122 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 3: I'm with you, Like I do believe there's a difference 123 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 3: as of urgencies in those things. I think about the 124 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 3: NBA and I think about how those cool players talk 125 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 3: about it, like I've heard Kevin Garnet and Paul Pierce 126 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 3: and them talk about like Jordan playing eighty two games 127 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 3: and how important it was to do that, and how 128 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 3: some of the injuries we're seeing is because training camp 129 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 3: is different. 130 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 2: It's not the riggers that you. 131 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 3: Have to take all of it kind of factors in 132 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 3: because people do have that. 133 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 2: And then I think about that. 134 00:05:55,080 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 3: But then I think about like the La Rams and 135 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 3: how Sean McVay has operated and how he has put 136 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 3: preservation over everything when it comes to making sure his 137 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:05,600 Speaker 3: team are healthy at the beginning. But then I think 138 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 3: about Andy Reid running a very old school, traditional training 139 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 3: camp and how they jump out to fast starts traditionally. 140 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 3: I don't know, man, I think you have to know 141 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 3: your team and know where you're operating. But to me, 142 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 3: I still feel like toughness and physicality eventually went out. 143 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 3: You see it, you see how the charges are being prepared, 144 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 3: and even though you have injuries, I don't believe. 145 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 2: Look, you can't operate scared when it comes to it. 146 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 3: Like some of it is like this is what we 147 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 3: have to do to get ready if we lose a 148 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 3: player along the way. We don't want to, but sometimes 149 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 3: it's just kind of the cost of getting your team 150 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 3: ready to play at a high level. 151 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know it's a factor all around the league. 152 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: There's a lot of teams down players, and so I 153 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 1: just think intentionally, if you look at kind of the 154 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: root cause of that, I don't know that anybody's really 155 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 1: done the homework and gone all the way back to 156 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: really how it's changed. Sports landscape has changed at the 157 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 1: high school level and at the college level, and then 158 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: at the professional level. I just think there's a different 159 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 1: this is a different urge. See you use that word. 160 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,720 Speaker 1: Uh different urgency placed on the on the regular season 161 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: in years past, and now let's just punch your ticket, man, 162 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: get your get your ticket to the tournament, and uh 163 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: and then we'll see what happens once you get there. 164 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it is. Everyone is just trying to dance, 165 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 3: you know. That's why. Look, I say this, and I 166 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 3: don't know how you can incentivize people to uh remain 167 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 3: I would say committed to winning division titles in those things, 168 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 3: right because right now you only have one team that 169 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 3: receives a buy and so you look for nomb more seed. 170 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 3: If if you don't have a reasonable chance to get 171 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 3: no more seed, you make decisions based on either matchups 172 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 3: or the present preservation of your best players. 173 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 2: Maybe maybe you have to find a way to create incentives. 174 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 3: And I'm not talking about monetarily, but something when it 175 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 3: comes to That's why I don't believe that you should 176 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 3: take away the division winner thing, because they get home field, 177 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 3: and regardless of whether the record is whatever, that's an anomaly. 178 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 3: That's not something that happens every year, So you don't 179 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 3: want to lose that. But there has to be a 180 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 3: way to encourage people to play their players and to 181 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 3: get them ready to play so they available. 182 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, no question, one more thing. We'll take 183 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,239 Speaker 1: a break and then get some of the games this weekend. 184 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: But we have seen some trades this week, and not 185 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: like any give up trades really just kind of this 186 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: guy can help you, maybe that guy can help me, 187 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: or little disappointing player for me, disappointing player for you. 188 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:20,640 Speaker 1: Let's change sener and see if it works out. But 189 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 1: it's been a pretty active week of trades, and I 190 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: think that goes back to what we've been saying for 191 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: a while, which is it's a new breed, a general 192 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: manager that's way more open to this stuff. 193 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 3: How about this and look man living it out real 194 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 3: time watching the Jaguars trade away Tyson Campbell for Greg Newsom. 195 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 3: And what's funny DJ is like you always reference your 196 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 3: reports and you go back and you're like, man, I 197 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 3: like this player. You go back, you oh, I really 198 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 3: like this player, and so like Tyson Campbell and Greg Newsom. 199 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 3: I just remember, man, I really like Greg Newsom coming out. 200 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 3: And you go back and you read your report and 201 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 3: you go back and you look at the videos that 202 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 3: you've done when you're talking about the player from Pro 203 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 3: Day and those things and how much you liked them, 204 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 3: and how Sometimes I feel like these teams are making 205 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 3: what I call win win trades, win win propositions for 206 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 3: both people. Tyson Campbell goes to a situation where he 207 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 3: is now playing more man demand because that's how Jim 208 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 3: Schwartz wants to play. That is better for his skills 209 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 3: because he's a great athlete, not a great ballplayer in 210 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 3: terms of like being able to play the ball. He 211 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 3: just doesn't see it well. And then Greg Newsom was 212 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 3: a high IQ player who had versatility at Northwest and 213 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 3: to play inside outside, had a very expansive toolbox. Now 214 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 3: you put him in a situation where he's playing in 215 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 3: the defense. That's a vision and break defense. 216 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 2: That helps. 217 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,839 Speaker 3: But the other part of it, and it hasn't been 218 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 3: out there, but they swapped someone who was under a 219 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 3: big contract four years, seventy six million that it was 220 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,839 Speaker 3: signed to before last season. Greg Newsom was in the 221 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 3: last year his deal, playing in the fifth year option. 222 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 3: We talked about the emergence of Devin Lloyd as a 223 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 3: guy who might win, well, that is your option cratch, 224 00:09:56,080 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 3: some of that scratch coming his way, potentially trying to 225 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 3: set the books. So, man, if we really like this player, 226 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 3: we got to figure out a way to keep them. 227 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 3: How can we do that? You share someone who's making 228 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 3: big money to create an opportunity to sign somebody else 229 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 3: to make big money. No one has said that, but 230 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 3: it doesn't take much to read the teethers and be like, 231 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 3: maybe they're setting something up so they can call the 232 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 3: agent before the end of season, but like, hey, let's 233 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 3: get this deal done. 234 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, do you think after this week we'll see 235 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: it again? It's another data point where you'll see some 236 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: teams slide a little bit further. I mean, we saw 237 00:10:29,840 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: a little bit of a flurry this week. I think 238 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: next week could be a fun one. Next week we 239 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 1: could see the bigger the bigger dudes going yeah. 240 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 2: Because look, a third of the season would be done. 241 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 2: You kind of know where you're at. 242 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:44,079 Speaker 3: You know, after six games, if you're at one in five, 243 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 3: probably not go Hacke free. 244 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: So now we got to start things twenty six. Now 245 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 1: we're looking at twenty six. Now you start thinking about, hey, 246 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:54,440 Speaker 1: how can we set the roster up for next year? 247 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: What can we do, Let's get the young players on 248 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 1: the field. You begin to have those real conversationation. 249 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,439 Speaker 3: Uh, it's unfortunate that all the hope and optimism can 250 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 3: go away real quick in the league, but that's the 251 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 3: reality of it. Yeah, I think we will see more movement. 252 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 3: We'll see your Florida players. And you're right, DJ, our 253 00:11:14,120 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 3: generation are sitting in those seats now where you're making 254 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 3: decisions and people are trading players in exchange for another 255 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 3: player and yeah, six seven round pick, yeah, just whatever, 256 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 3: whatever we need to do to make the deal work. 257 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 3: Like it's fine, that's what we're seeing, which is kind 258 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 3: of funny because like I feel like everyone is throwing 259 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 3: in a six or seventh round pick at the end. 260 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 2: Like yeah, whatever. 261 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: Like, by the way, don't you think we should just 262 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 1: use a group text from the gas standpoint? You know 263 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: how it goes in those buildings. It's like, hey, here, 264 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: let's div it up. We got these four guys. You 265 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: call these you know, eight teams. You call these eight teams, 266 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: and we're gonna let them know that player X is available. Guys, 267 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: come on, man, group texts, got all the gms on there, 268 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: Joe Smith, guys, come and get them who who. 269 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 3: They just just see me you best offer by am 270 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 3: the next day and we'll kind of figured it out, 271 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 3: see if we can work it out or whatever. Yeah, 272 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:09,079 Speaker 3: it's funny to hear the mechanics of how these trades 273 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 3: are being pulled off. But yeah, like you have a 274 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 3: very aggressive generation of general managers get aren't afraid to 275 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,319 Speaker 3: swap out, make moves to see if they can help 276 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 3: their team. 277 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. I guess the only thing that'll be reported publicly 278 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 1: in about thirty seconds after you send it. But I 279 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 1: guess if you really want to trade him, you'd be 280 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: okay with the name getting out there. So it's funny. 281 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:29,439 Speaker 1: All right, let's say quick break, we'll look at some 282 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 1: of the big games this weekend. All right, buck, let's 283 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 1: jump into it. We got one in London. We've got 284 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 1: Broncos Jets over there. I know I saw you know 285 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: when you're asking Sean Payton, is this a look over 286 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: him game? And he gave kind of the look. There's 287 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: These are all professional teams, like the Jets are capable 288 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 1: of beating people, so it can't look past them. But 289 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: this is a this is one. On the surface, it 290 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: looks like it should be a comfortable one for how 291 00:12:58,440 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 1: bad the Jets have been. 292 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:01,959 Speaker 2: It does look like that. But as soon as you 293 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 2: start thinking that, dj what happens. 294 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 3: The Tennessee Titans find a way to knock off the 295 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 3: airs on the car knows the Cleveland Browns knock off 296 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 3: the Green Bay Packer. 297 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 2: I mean, just this is just what the league is. 298 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 3: The challenge in the trade for the Denver Broncos is 299 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 3: can you maintain that same level of focus that you 300 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 3: had against the Phildepic Eagles last week to take on 301 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 3: the Jets. And if you're the Jets, you're only five. 302 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 3: People are saying like you're a worse outfit than the 303 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 3: previous version. How do you fix the turnovers? How do 304 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 3: you fix the turnobars? 305 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:28,440 Speaker 2: DJ? 306 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:30,479 Speaker 3: I I was looking at this thing, and I was researching, 307 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 3: like the turnovers, and Pete Carrolyn is all about the 308 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 3: ball DJ. All the teams they have a minus four 309 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 3: or worse differential in turnovers. 310 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 2: The combined record is six and twenty four. Like, just 311 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 2: the turnovers are the things that are killing you. If 312 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 2: you can just take care of the ball, it gives 313 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 2: a chance. But if you are reckless with the ball, 314 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 2: you have no shot of winning in this league. So 315 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 2: the first thing that I would do with the Jets, 316 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 2: who are number one and take man, let's just find 317 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 2: a way to end every drive and a kick. 318 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,839 Speaker 3: And I know it sounds cliche, but literally, let's punt it. 319 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 3: Let's kick a pat let's kick a field goal or whatever. 320 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 3: But let's make sure we don't give away the game, 321 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 3: because in giving it away, you have no chance of 322 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 3: being able to win it. 323 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: And I would also echo that with penalties, it seems 324 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: like on a weekly basis that the more penalized team 325 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: is having a hard time winning ball games. Timely penalties 326 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: at that. So you got Broncos Jets, there, rams Ravens 327 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: on the schedule, comes out buck fired up about that game. 328 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: Now it's not so much yeah, non you've been. 329 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 2: In that building, because you've been in there. 330 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 3: And I've always felt like the Ravens are one of 331 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 3: the few franchises that no matter where they're sitting, sometimes 332 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 3: they can find a way to galvanize themselves to kind 333 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 3: of orchestrate a turn around. John Harboy has been on 334 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 3: the gig for a long time. He's seen it all. 335 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 3: He's been able to kind of help them bounce back. 336 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 3: And Lamar may or may not come back to because 337 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 3: they're bye week is right after this. To me, I 338 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 3: think the wounded animal is dangerous and can they mustered up? 339 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 3: But they have been so bad, man, I just I 340 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 3: never thought we were to the point where a team 341 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 3: in a franchise that's been synonymously great defenses. 342 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 2: Are this bad? I mean they're terrible. Uh. 343 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:17,760 Speaker 1: They made a trade. They made a trade, brought over 344 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: Loyd Gilman, who's really one of the good dudes. Great dude, 345 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:22,000 Speaker 1: and I have to go back and look it up. 346 00:15:22,040 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: I think he played at Notre Dame. Didn't he play 347 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: with Hamilton? Yeah, he played with didn't he play with him? 348 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: I think we go back and look that up. I'm 349 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 1: pretty sure he did play with Hamilton. Uh, but yeah, 350 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 1: they brought him over there try and help out the 351 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 1: back end a little bit. They've had some injuries, including Hamilton, 352 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 1: so we'll see what the Raiders. 353 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 3: CJ Yeah, CJ garing to Johnson was signed to the 354 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 3: practice squad and definitely trying to figure out how to do. 355 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 2: The back end. 356 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 3: That means that they can try and put Cayle Hamilton 357 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 3: back in the spot where you can be the Swiss 358 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 3: Army knife at the second level and do some of 359 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 3: those things. But look, man, the Ravens have to get 360 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 3: back to just doing what I would say, the simple things, well, 361 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 3: lining up, knowing what did you, running to the ball, 362 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 3: tackling with Forrest, not missing tackles on the perimeter, get 363 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,280 Speaker 3: back to the basic things. They have been a team 364 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 3: that has always been so exotic on defense that when 365 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 3: it goes a right, I do wonder if they can 366 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 3: get back to the we've all. 367 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: Any injuries, man, there's just so many injuries. Yeah, A 368 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 1: BK is kind of the he was kind of the 369 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: straw that stirred to drink there too, man, Like that's you. 370 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 3: And finally, after all those years DJ, they don't have 371 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 3: a They don't have a dominant pass rusher up front now. 372 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 3: And Matty Bka was such a dominant player up front, 373 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 3: not only against the run but against the pass. They're 374 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 3: missing that. And it's funny because they've drafted and they've 375 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 3: tried to do that. But when I think about those 376 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 3: vintage teams with sizzle, uh ray Lewis knows that they've. 377 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: Always had multiple lawyers. 378 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,880 Speaker 3: They've always had They've always had multiple guys on the 379 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 3: front line that could win their one on ones and 380 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 3: get to the quarterback. 381 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 2: They don't have that anymore. 382 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 3: And so some of this is a right u F 383 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 3: but some of it is the cumultive effect of not 384 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 3: being able to stockpile the cover with a bunch of 385 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 3: pass rushes and dominant players on the front line. 386 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: How about the game you're going to be at. 387 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:11,919 Speaker 2: You know, it's an interesting game and this is an 388 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 2: interesting game. And here's what I say, Djam. 389 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 3: We were on the movement when we talk about the 390 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 3: reclamation projects, and I believe the reclamation projects is going 391 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 3: to be a trend next year. That continues because as 392 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 3: people begin to cast their eyes to the twenty twenty 393 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:25,680 Speaker 3: six quarterback class in the draft, it is not what 394 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 3: people thought. 395 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:29,360 Speaker 2: It would be. So now the guys like Mac Jones, 396 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 2: Daniel Jones, those guys go to the front of the line. 397 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 3: People are gonna be excited about taking on that project 398 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:38,439 Speaker 3: because Sam Donald and Baker Mayfield are prime examples of 399 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 3: what happens when you kick the can on a former 400 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 3: number one pick, put them in the right offense with 401 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 3: the right coaching, and what can happen. Sam Donald was 402 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 3: absolutely dealing last weekend. The duo that he had with 403 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 3: Baker Mayfield was everything that are art and Sam donald 404 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 3: supporters said that he would be. That's taken some years, 405 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 3: but as Sam Donald has shown up and what it 406 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 3: shows you is, man, it's a long developmental process. When 407 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 3: it comes to quarterbacks, but it also takes a village 408 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 3: around him to get it done. 409 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 2: Jsn being the playmaker that he is. 410 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 3: Cooper Cup being reliable, the running game that they have 411 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 3: around him, and I'll say this, their offensive line isn't 412 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 3: like one of the tops. 413 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 2: But man, the weapons, firepower around him, the firepower. 414 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 3: Around around him Donald enables him to do what he 415 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 3: has the potential that he's always had the potential to do. 416 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 3: But now he's in the right system with the right 417 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 3: cast to showcase it like he was. 418 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 2: Last year in Minnesota. 419 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: I don't know how many guys in leaguer processing faster 420 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: than Sam Donald is right now. When you go back 421 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,160 Speaker 1: and you watch him every week, he's number three, number 422 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: four in the progression he is. He's looking there. 423 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 3: Look, I'm not a quarterback Google, but here's what I 424 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:48,360 Speaker 3: would say if I am a quarterback who wish struggled. 425 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,479 Speaker 3: I'm going to see the wizard, and the wizard is 426 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 3: some descendant of the Sean McVay slash col shanahan tree. 427 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 3: I'm gonna spend a year there, I'm gonna learn how 428 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 3: to play the position. 429 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 2: I'm gonna do it, and I'm gonna be a change man. 430 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 3: After I see the Wizard Sam Sam Donald went to 431 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 3: San Francisco as a backup, learned that the base part 432 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,880 Speaker 3: of the system. He gets the blessing from Shanahan as 433 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 3: they start talking, goes to Kevin O'Connell. Plays better when 434 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 3: he has his opportunity in Minnesota, and now he's a 435 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 3: different thing. Baker Mayfield goes from Carolina to the l 436 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:24,680 Speaker 3: a Rams, spend some time with Sean McVay the Wizard. 437 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,640 Speaker 3: He is a different player when he shows up in Tampa. 438 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 3: I don't know what they tell the quarterbacks. I don't 439 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 3: know what they're teaching the quarterbacks. I saw Malik Willis 440 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 3: go from Tennessee to Green Bay, show up and look 441 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 3: like a much different player. I'm going to the Wizard. 442 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 1: Wizard of Oz a great, great example of that, you know. So, 443 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:50,919 Speaker 1: I mean he looks like a totally different player. 444 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 3: Look and it looks like, Man, imagine if Kyle Shanahan 445 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 3: had taken Mac Jones when maybe. 446 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: He want Oh yeah, that changes history a little bit. 447 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: All right, Let's get to a couple more here. Lions, 448 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 1: Chiefs at the Chiefs. That's going to be a big one. 449 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:08,120 Speaker 3: Man. 450 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,199 Speaker 1: Kansas City. That feels like you almost got to have 451 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: that one. This is a Lions team that's rolling right now. 452 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, a Lion's team just rolling. But here's what I 453 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 3: would say, and I know you live it being in 454 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 3: that division. I don't care what you say about the 455 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 3: Kansity Chiefs DJ. There's a not a fear factor, but 456 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 3: there's an apprehension when you play them that number fifteen 457 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:29,080 Speaker 3: is going to find a way to do it, because 458 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 3: when you really look at their team, they're okay, but 459 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 3: man number fifteen is the one that makes it breaks them. 460 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 3: And because he is so good, so composed, understands how 461 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:42,439 Speaker 3: to kind of game the system with his legs and 462 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 3: scrambling and doing those things, they're never an easy out. 463 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 3: And the fear is they find just enough wins to 464 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 3: get into the tournament and then you got to deal 465 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 3: with him in playoff mode. This is a big game 466 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:56,679 Speaker 3: for them because they need to win to kind of 467 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 3: stay in the thing. 468 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 2: They don't want to fall too far off the path. 469 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 3: And for the Detroit Lions, this is an opportunity to 470 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 3: really announce yourself. It's like, yeah, you thought we were 471 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,360 Speaker 3: going away because we had all the change, We're still 472 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,879 Speaker 3: right here. John Boyden has done a great job of 473 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,120 Speaker 3: taking this offense and continue. 474 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:14,479 Speaker 2: To build upon it. 475 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 3: I never envisioned him maintaining the physicality and fund, but 476 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 3: he's done a really good job of doing it within 477 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:21,160 Speaker 3: his personnelity. 478 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:23,479 Speaker 1: There's a lot of different ways to sing could go. 479 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: But I will say, like everybody's just kind of yeah, 480 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not Kansas City still Kansas City, and 481 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: they're going to figure it out and they'll find time. 482 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: And I'm just telling you that if Detroit goes on 483 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 1: the road and beats the breaks off them, then this 484 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 1: conversation is going to change. And people are like, Okay, 485 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: well that was the window. That window is shut. Like 486 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: as crazy as that sounds, it feels like this is 487 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 1: that type of a week where narratives are going. 488 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 2: To be well. 489 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,679 Speaker 3: It does because when you look at the talent right 490 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 3: when I'm looking there and no disrespect to the personnel. 491 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 3: When I look at who scares me? If we're doing 492 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 3: the advanced report Za, if you're worthy the quarterback, everybody 493 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 3: else I'm okay with. 494 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, Chris Jones is we've been making them get for 495 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 1: Shard Smith more involved. 496 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 3: And they did, and they did a really good job 497 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 3: of creatively getting them there. But they don't have the 498 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 3: firepower that they once had, and that changes because until 499 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 3: they're able to either run the football or change the 500 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,199 Speaker 3: way that people play them defensively, they can't get the 501 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 3: explosive plays. 502 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 2: So everything is like a hard not a hard down, 503 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 2: but it's a. 504 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 3: Hard long drive that they don't get the easy gift 505 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:39,080 Speaker 3: plays that they used to get. Yeah, but you're right, 506 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 3: narrative changes, just we can if they lose. 507 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: Speaking of narratives, this is the narrative game. Everyone's going 508 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: to be speaking in absolutes as they always do. It's 509 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: gonna be the the debate game. It's gonna be the 510 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 1: Commanders against the Bears, and everybody's going to say that 511 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: one of those two quarterbacks is the second coming and 512 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: the other one stinks that's gonna be comes out. It's 513 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: just the way it's all set up with Caleb and 514 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: Jayde Daniels Jadan Daniels one on the Hail Mary. Previously, 515 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 1: Caleb had the big drive that brought him back in 516 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: that game, which kind of gets forgotten. I saw Jaden 517 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 1: last week. He's getting his legs back under him. His 518 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:15,920 Speaker 1: first game back, he got better as that game against 519 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: the Chargers went along. They've been beat up at the 520 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: wide receiver position, but they're running the ball well. The 521 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: Bears had coming off some rest. It's on the road 522 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: for them. But man, this is again first statement opportunities. 523 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,160 Speaker 1: This would be a big statement with these two quarterbacks 524 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: being linked together. If Ben Johnson could take Caleb in 525 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: there and have Caleb play really well. 526 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, it'd be a big, big statement game. 527 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 3: And you're right, like Caleb is, Caleb's progress has kind 528 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 3: of flown up under the radar. If he can have 529 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 3: a big statement game against a guy that was QB 530 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 3: two in that draft class, it really opened up the 531 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 3: conversation in terms of the growth that he's made under 532 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,120 Speaker 3: Ben Johnson. And on the other side, the flip side, 533 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 3: if Jayde Daniels continues to dominate and look like he's 534 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 3: look under Cliff Kingsbury in this offense explodes with Deebo 535 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 3: Samuel and the other play makes the day, we have 536 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 3: a different conversation about the Commanders. 537 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, looking forward to that game. It's a great weekend 538 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 1: of games. I would encourage you if you missed it. 539 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,640 Speaker 1: The other day we had Jim Nagion from Oklahoma. Their 540 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 1: general manager was a fun conversation. I would encourage you 541 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: to go back check that one out, and we'll be 542 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 1: back next week as we kind of break down everything 543 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 1: that we saw. Really looking forward to a wonderful weekend 544 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,119 Speaker 1: of football. Appreciate you hanging with us. We'll see you 545 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 1: right here on movie sticks.