1 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: This is Seahawks Stories fiftieth season edition, presented by Emerald 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:07,159 Speaker 1: City Athletics. 3 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 2: Welcome. We're broadcasting from the Seahawks Podcast Studio, presented by Sony, 4 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:17,120 Speaker 2: an official partner of the Seattle Seahawks. I'm Paul Moyer 5 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 2: along with Dave Wyman, and we're here to celebrate the 6 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:24,959 Speaker 2: fiftieth season of the Seattle Seahawks. I mean, what an 7 00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 2: anniversary that is. And more importantly, they have fifty years. 8 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 2: I've been a part of forty three of those. 9 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,520 Speaker 3: Wow. So I'm never going to catch you. 10 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 2: No, not from an age standpoint. And for those who 11 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 2: can see, I've got some old school Seahawks gear, which, 12 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 2: as you know, Dave, I think should be official gear 13 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 2: for the Seattle Seahawks. And you know, I was a 14 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 2: part of some amazing teams. You know, I was part 15 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 2: of nineteen eighty three when they first went to the playoffs, 16 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 2: and this was a twelveth city. I mean, they were 17 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 2: die hard Seahawks fans without question, but eighty three took 18 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:06,759 Speaker 2: it to another level and really a catapult to where 19 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 2: we are today with the twelves and the current team. 20 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 2: Eighty three is mentioned. We got fortunate at the end 21 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 2: of the season, we got hot. We had some great talent. 22 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 2: I mean, Kenny Easley, Steve Largent, you know, Kurt Warner 23 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 2: who was a rookie that year, My rookie year as well. 24 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 2: Dave Craig in the middle of the year became the 25 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 2: quarterback and really cemented himself as one of the great 26 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 2: quarterbacks really in NFL history. You look at his touchdowns, 27 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 2: but particularly with the Seattle Seahawks. Excuse me, but I 28 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,960 Speaker 2: would talk about nineteen eighty four, the eighty four season. 29 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 2: We hear a lot about the Legion of Boom, and 30 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 2: rightfully so everything about them great secondary probably two you 31 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 2: could argue, maybe three Hall of famers in that group, 32 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 2: But the season in nineteen eighty four, I could argue 33 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 2: has two Hall of famers as well. We know one 34 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,440 Speaker 2: of them was Kenny easily the other one and should 35 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 2: be Dave Brown, who has sixty I believe sixty three 36 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 2: interception sixty two interceptions, and I think it was one 37 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 2: of the great corners of all time. We just never 38 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 2: made it to a Super Bowl, which is a big 39 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 2: part of getting to a Hall of Fame. But I'm 40 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 2: going to talk a little bit about the eighty four season, 41 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 2: and what an emotional roller coaster that was. We had 42 00:02:22,639 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 2: just come off as I'd mentioned, nineteen eighty three, we 43 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 2: got into the AFC Championship game. We were a young, 44 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 2: up and coming team with a lot of number one 45 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 2: draft picks because they were an expansion team and hadn't won, 46 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 2: hadn't been to the playoffs, and all of a sudden, 47 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 2: Chuck Knox had came into and eighty three brought in 48 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 2: Tom Catlan, our defensive coordinator, a very intricate defense, which 49 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 2: I'll talk about as well. But we go into the 50 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 2: eighty four season and we're considered one of the favorites 51 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 2: to go to the Super Bowl and win it. The 52 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 2: Raiders had just won it the year before and beat 53 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 2: us in the AFC Championship game. We had beat them 54 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 2: twice the year before, and we're we're pretty pumped. We 55 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 2: we know we got a talented, good football team. And 56 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 2: the very first game of the year, I should know 57 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 2: who we were playing. It was either Cleveland or Pittsburgh, 58 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 2: and my roommate, good friend Kurt Warner first game of 59 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 2: the season, I believe he was the AFC rookie, you know, 60 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 2: best running back of the year, blows his knee out 61 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 2: acl and I remember that. I mean the crowd you 62 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 2: could hear a pin drop in the Kingdom, and the 63 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 2: Kingdome you could never hear a pin drop. But we 64 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 2: knew the seriousness of it. And I remember being as 65 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 2: far on the other all the way down the sideline 66 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 2: watching because they were going into the end zone to 67 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 2: score when it happened, and that was that was an 68 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 2: emotional moment because we were like, Wow, we're still a 69 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 2: super Bowl contending team. But what we didn't know was 70 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 2: how great our defense was. And it became a historic 71 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 2: season and historic in that there was I don't think 72 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 2: it'll be broken, a modern day record of sixty three 73 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 2: turnovers that we created thirty eight interceptions. Matter of fact, 74 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 2: the Legion of Boom twenty thirteen, they created thirty nine 75 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 2: total turnovers. We had thirty eight interceptions, so I think 76 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 2: it's a historic. We returned six interceptions back for touchdowns. 77 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 2: Just a phenomenal, phenomenal group. And so we went on 78 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 2: a run. We've blown out some teams early. I mean 79 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 2: we're really blown them out, and we're shutting them out defensively. 80 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 2: I mean the first game we won thirty three to nothing. 81 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 2: The next in it was versus Cleveland. The next game 82 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:42,679 Speaker 2: we play the Chargers, I believe, and it was thirty 83 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 2: one to seventeen. Then then New England. We go to 84 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 2: New England and we're up twenty I want to say, 85 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 2: we're up twenty three to seven at halftime, and they 86 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 2: score all their points. They beat us thirty eight twenty three, 87 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 2: and that was kind of our wake up call that hey, 88 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 2: we've got to become a comp let team now. And 89 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 2: we end up winning eight games in a row at 90 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 2: that point. What was so magical about it was there's 91 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 2: guys that were great leaders. Jacob Green who had I 92 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 2: want to say he had thirteen sacks that year, Boogeyman, 93 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 2: Jeff Bryant he had fourteen and a half sacks. And 94 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 2: then Joe Nash, our nose guard, our nose tackle, he 95 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 2: had seven. And back then we ran a three to 96 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 2: four defense. And the reason why I say it was 97 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 2: an intricate defense, I don't think it can actually be 98 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 2: duplicated anymore. One was Ralph Hawkins was our secondary coach, 99 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 2: and I actually loved Ralph. You know, he was different. 100 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 2: He was you know, East Coast guy, and he had 101 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 2: his way of coaching. But He was really smart, and 102 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 2: we ran what we call a combo defense on just 103 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 2: about everything. It was a three on two versus every 104 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 2: wide receiver. We played a lot of six seven defensive 105 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 2: backs that year, and we needed to. We were playing 106 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 2: against Dan Fouts Hall of Famer, John Elway Hall of Fame, 107 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 2: Dan Marino hall of famers. I mean, these are great quarterbacks, obviously, 108 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 2: and it took us about a year and a half. 109 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 2: Maybe not. It took us about a year to where 110 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 2: it all clicked, where we knew and we didn't even 111 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 2: have to talk to each other. We knew as soon 112 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 2: as a guy ran an en route, the other guy 113 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 2: cut to the other receiver. The other receiver realized that 114 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 2: route he could go back over the top. It was 115 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:27,040 Speaker 2: very confusing for quarterbacks. I'd talked to many of them. 116 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 2: They said, we didn't know if we were running zone. Man. 117 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 2: It was extremely difficult for us to figure out. And 118 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 2: on top of that you had a great pass rush 119 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 2: with Jeff Bryant and Jacob Green, So it was magical 120 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 2: that secondary. Dave is probably the smartest secondary I've ever 121 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 2: been around. I've i coached obviously, after with the Seahawks, 122 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 2: been in this NFL for over forty years. John Harris, 123 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 2: who was our free safety, smartest football player I've ever 124 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 2: been around, photo graphic memory, and you know it was 125 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 2: a four point zero student at a very difficult college 126 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 2: at Arizona State University. But I got to sit with him. 127 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 2: He was my seat mate on planes and he knew 128 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 2: everybody's position. He would run up and down the line 129 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 2: when the Kingdom would get really loud and he would 130 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 2: be calling out audibles. He was a brilliant guy. Day Brown, 131 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 2: you know, the late Day Brown, smart, hard worker. You 132 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 2: know again that year he went to the Pro Bowl 133 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 2: as well. Kenny Easily and him both were Pro bowlers. 134 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,679 Speaker 2: I think he had eight interceptions, two of those returned 135 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 2: for a touchdown. It was just between John Harris, Dave Brown, 136 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 2: Kenny Easily and there's some other guys, Keith Simpson who 137 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 2: was a hard hitting corner. We had Carrie Justice, Greg Johnson. 138 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 2: You know this little guy here me. I guess I'm 139 00:07:52,920 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 2: not that little. It was just a really smart group. 140 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 2: And it wasn't that we we went and watched a 141 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 2: lot of film on our own. We always watched it together, 142 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 2: which was unique back then. And Kenny Easily and Dave 143 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 2: Brown demanded it, and so after practice into the evenings, 144 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 2: we were watching film together how we would work and 145 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 2: how we would you know, pass off coverages along the way. 146 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 2: So just a phenomenal group, you know, just a great 147 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 2: secondary with a great pass rush. And it catapulted us 148 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 2: to you know, at twelve and two season at the time, 149 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 2: we're thinking we're going to win the AFC West, have 150 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 2: home field advantage throughout the playoffs, and as I said, 151 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 2: it got very emotional. We lost Kurt Warner oh Man 152 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 2: seasons over. Oh wow, we're twelve and two and we're 153 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 2: throwing the football now, you know, you know, mudbone Dave Craig, 154 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 2: I said, David become our starting quarterback in the middle 155 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 2: of nineteen eighty three and took it from there. And 156 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 2: about middle of the season, we couldn't run the ball 157 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 2: really well anymore. Teams just said, hey, you know, that's 158 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 2: that's not going to happen. And we had some injuries 159 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 2: on the offensive line, and so all of a sudden, 160 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 2: we went from that they called ground chuck to you know, 161 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 2: we were air. You know, we weren't quite the San 162 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 2: Diego Chargers at the time, but we were throwing the 163 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:17,319 Speaker 2: ball over the place, and you know, Steve Largent had 164 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 2: you know, well over one thousand yards that year. He 165 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 2: had twelve touchdowns receiving. You know, he's he was phenomenal. 166 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,959 Speaker 2: We had drafted Darryl Taylor that season and he was 167 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 2: our deep threat. He had ten interceptions. So it was 168 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 2: a it was a team that needed to really rely 169 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,959 Speaker 2: on each other because that when Kurt Warner that we 170 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 2: lost him. We said we got to win with special teams, 171 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 2: we got to win with defense, and we got to 172 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 2: find ways to win on offense. So yeah, really really 173 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 2: really special year. The downside, the emotional was we're twelve 174 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 2: and two, We're thinking we got this, and the last 175 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 2: two games, man, we just we just got destroyed. We 176 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:02,719 Speaker 2: went in to Kansas City, it was we just could 177 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 2: never beat Kansas City. And Kansas City there was another 178 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 2: one of the we lost in eighty three, the lost 179 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 2: in eighty four. We didn't actually break that streak until 180 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,079 Speaker 2: I think nineteen ninety and I don't know, Dave had 181 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:18,719 Speaker 2: five or six interceptions that that game. Sorry, Dave. We 182 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 2: got blown out. I mean it was looking at the 183 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 2: score here, it was thirty four to seven, and we 184 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 2: lost our confidence, just almost overnight and we still have 185 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 2: a chance to win the AFC West Denver's coming in 186 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 2: to the Kingdom, crowds fired up, and we just don't 187 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 2: play well. We ended up getting beat thirty one to 188 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 2: fourteen that game, so back to back blowouts, and I 189 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 2: think the most disappointing part that season was going into 190 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 2: the playoffs. Is now we're a wildcard team. But it 191 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 2: was fun because we got the Raiders in the playoffs 192 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 2: at home this time, not on the road, and it's 193 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 2: again a very member game that a lot of people 194 00:11:02,080 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 2: remember that we had zero offense never I think we 195 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 2: threw the ball eight or nine times at that game. 196 00:11:08,720 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 2: And we ended up winning that one thirteen to seven 197 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 2: and having a chance to play the Miami Dolphins again 198 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 2: in Miami. But that was the disappointing emotional part. You 199 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 2: think season's over, you're having a historic year as a team, 200 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 2: and then finally you just you lose all your confidence 201 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 2: going to the playoffs. We won one, but we just 202 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 2: didn't feel like we had the confidence probably to take 203 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 2: it to the Super Bowl. 204 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:39,200 Speaker 1: So you lost in the AFC Championship game right to 205 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: the Raiders in eighty three. 206 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 3: And hadn't you beaten them, you beat them twice. 207 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: I want to say, somebody told me, one of the 208 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 1: older guys told me that you played him in the 209 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: preseason and beat him in the preseason. 210 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 2: I don't remember that. 211 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it was Keith Butler told me that story. 212 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, and then you're on the you're 213 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 1: on the doorstep of going to the super It was. 214 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:03,559 Speaker 2: It was pretty crazy. I'll tell you a story about 215 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 2: eighty three and again, why I think the twelves in 216 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:11,599 Speaker 2: Seattle was so excited going into eighty four. So we 217 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 2: win our last few games in eighty three, we get 218 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 2: to the playoffs. We beat Denver at home. We go 219 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 2: to Miami on New Year's Eve, New Year's Eve, and 220 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 2: most of you know about this game. You know, you 221 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 2: can go find it online. Pretty pretty easy, memorable. You know, 222 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 2: Steve Largent makes a corner route after we're behind in 223 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 2: the final two minutes and Kurt Warner takes it in 224 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:38,959 Speaker 2: for a touchdown. We take the lead. We cause a 225 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 2: turnover on the kickoff kick a field goal. It's it's pandemonia. 226 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 2: I mean, we are, We're going nuts on the sideline, 227 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 2: and we happen to have a I believe a seven 228 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 2: forty seven that they had leased to take us to 229 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 2: the game because back then the planes we had to stop, 230 00:12:56,440 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 2: like in spokekan Or, Minnesota, from the East back to 231 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 2: the west because they just didn't have enough fuel. So 232 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 2: they said, well, we'll get us seven forty seven. So 233 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:11,240 Speaker 2: we're flying home to Seattle, and we don't know what's about, 234 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 2: we don't know what's waiting for us. And you know, 235 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 2: there was some good champagne on that plane. That was 236 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 2: just an unbelievable plane ride back. And we get back 237 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 2: and you know, there's ten fifteen thousand people waiting for 238 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 2: us at the airport. It is packed. And by the 239 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 2: time we land and I just remember how long it 240 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 2: took us to get out of the airport. I should 241 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 2: have stayed on the bus, but a bunch of us 242 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 2: had people picking us up and we were going out 243 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 2: for New Year's Eve that night, and we were celebrities 244 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:46,680 Speaker 2: everywhere we went to Seattle, to every location. You know, 245 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 2: they pulled the red carpet and big magnum champagnes of 246 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 2: It was a lot of fun. So now we played 247 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:57,079 Speaker 2: the raiders. They're waiting for us. I mean, look, they 248 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 2: got Howie long they got Lyle Alzato. They've got Jim Plunkett, 249 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 2: they got Marcus Allen, they got Branch, all kinds of receivers, 250 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 2: Todd Christiansen. I mean, they're loaded. And we had beaten 251 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 2: him twice during the year and beating them pretty good. 252 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:13,959 Speaker 2: They weren't having that. They came out and they punched 253 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,120 Speaker 2: us in the mouth pretty good, and we couldn't quite 254 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 2: couldn't quite take that punch. So game going to eighty four, 255 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 2: were ready in the offseason, And I think a lot 256 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 2: had to do with Kenny Easley, such a big part 257 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 2: of the Seahawks history. Most dominant player I've ever been 258 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 2: on the field and seen, and again, I wish his 259 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 2: career was longer, but you know, just just some stats. Therefore, 260 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 2: he was a fourth overall pick back in nineteen eighty one. 261 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 2: I remember when he was coming out of UCLA, and God, 262 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 2: he was intimidating, just the way he wore his uniform. 263 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 2: Here's an amazing statistic. He had thirty two career interceptions. 264 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 2: Three of those were picked sixes. He did that in 265 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 2: eighty seven games. That's happened in one, you know, every 266 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 2: three games. I mean, that's that in itself remarkable five 267 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 2: time Pro Bowler in only seven seasons. He was a 268 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 2: three time All Pro. All Pro is hard to get. 269 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's the tough one. Something that was unique, 270 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 2: and it's one of the best games I've ever seen 271 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 2: him play in Seahawk history. 272 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 3: Too. 273 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 2: Was nineteen eighty four. We're playing the San Diego Chargers 274 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 2: on Monday Night football in San Diego, and they are loaded. 275 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 2: They've got Callen Winslow All Pro. They've got Chandler Joiner 276 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 2: at wide receivers, they got Dan Fouts, they got Chuck 277 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 2: Munsey at running back. They're loaded. We shut him out 278 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 2: twenty four to nothing, and Kenny has two interceptions. And 279 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 2: what I remember about that game is it's towards the 280 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 2: end of the game and they're down by the goal 281 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 2: line and we've got our Nickel package in and he's like, 282 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 2: they're not going to score. I mean, he was in 283 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 2: the huddle like they are not going to score. I 284 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 2: mean we basically if they score, we're gonna have to 285 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 2: deal with him on Monday. And that year, nineteen eighty 286 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 2: four Defensive Player of the Year. To get in the secondary, 287 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 2: you just don't see that very often. The nineteen eighties 288 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 2: All team, and then finally what he deserved, what took 289 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 2: way too long, was finally making the Hall of Fame. 290 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 2: And I had the opportunity to go down to Canton. 291 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 2: That was such an incredible experience, and we were all there. 292 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 2: You know, Eugene Robinson was there, you had John Harris 293 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 2: was there. I think Key Simpson. You know, a lot 294 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 2: of the guys were a part of that eighty four team. 295 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 2: So special, special player. Kenny was ready for eighty four. 296 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 2: He was healthy. He wasn't healthy in eighty three. 297 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 3: He was. 298 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 2: I started a bunch of games for him. But eighty 299 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 2: four he was healthy and he was very focused, and 300 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 2: it's one of the great eighty four seasons. You know, 301 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 2: I think in NFL history, Kenny easily and he's a 302 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 2: hard one to describe as a player. I'm gonna try 303 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 2: and do my best on this. There's very few people 304 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 2: in the NFL that you fear, I mean fear come 305 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 2: across the middle. I don't want to get hit by 306 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 2: that guy. And also fear he's going to be a 307 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 2: playmaker on me. I can't throw it to him. We 308 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,640 Speaker 2: got to avoid him at all costs, and a lot 309 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 2: of teams actually designed a defense to take Kenny away 310 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 2: versus us. They would always line up in a slot formation. 311 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 2: By the way we played our defense back then, a 312 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 2: three to four defense, the strong safety would always go 313 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 2: to the tight end side and then they would end 314 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 2: up motion running back out wide. We used to call 315 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 2: that an ace formation. But they would spread him out 316 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 2: and they would just say, you're out of the game. 317 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 2: We're going to go play the game over here. But 318 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:42,239 Speaker 2: in eighty four they didn't do that, and he was 319 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 2: involved in everything. He had ten interceptions that season. Again, 320 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 2: I think at least two of them returned for touchdowns. 321 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:52,200 Speaker 2: He was the most feared player, both as a playmaker 322 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 2: and as a hitter. He's one of the smartest guys 323 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,719 Speaker 2: I've ever been around. I mean he is. He's a 324 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 2: very intelligent person, and when he's focused and wasn't hurt, 325 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 2: he would he could carry a team. He could carry 326 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 2: a team emotionally, he could carry a team physically, and 327 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 2: as a playmaker. Kenny Easily and Ronnie Lott talks about it. 328 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,120 Speaker 2: Ronnie says, look, the greatest safety I've ever seen play 329 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 2: is Kenny Easily. And I look at Kenny and kind 330 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 2: of Gail Sayers as two players similar in that their 331 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:27,199 Speaker 2: careers were cut short, and wow, what would it have 332 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 2: been like if they weren't. You know, Gail Sayers is 333 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 2: because of an injury. Kenny's because of an illness. You know, 334 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,880 Speaker 2: Kenny still had over thirty interceptions and really only played 335 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 2: He played seven seasons, I believe, but you know I 336 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 2: started probably fourteen or fifteen times when he was playing 337 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 2: because of injuries. And if he could have played out 338 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:54,320 Speaker 2: a whole career the way it is, the rest of 339 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 2: the world would know more about Kenny, you know, even 340 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,400 Speaker 2: though he made it to the Pro Bowl. But very unique. 341 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 2: One of the great athletes and I Syria. One of 342 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 2: the great athletes I've ever seen. And when I say 343 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 2: by great athlete, could do anything, I mean he was 344 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:14,959 Speaker 2: a He played on UCLA's freshman basketball team. He was 345 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:17,479 Speaker 2: close to a scratch golfer. I don't want to give 346 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 2: him too much on that one because I used to 347 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 2: play against him a lot. But no, no, but he 348 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 2: was He was better than I was when I was good. 349 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 2: We had fierce ping pong matches back in Camp and 350 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 2: Cheney that are somewhat legendary. He could throw a football. 351 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 2: He was our punt returner when we needed one, and 352 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 2: he was good at it. Uh. He could have been 353 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 2: a wide receiver, he could have played just about any position, 354 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 2: skill position in the NFL. Uh. Yeah, again, just a 355 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:53,479 Speaker 2: phenomenal athlete. Everything he touched he was good at. So 356 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 2: really unique and you know, again I'll put that secondary 357 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 2: against any secondary. It was truly that good. And the 358 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,120 Speaker 2: numbers speak for themselves. 359 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. 360 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 1: A few years ago, Bob Condotta and I wrote a 361 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 1: book called If These Walls Could Talk, And I remember 362 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: interviewing you during that and for you, I mean, it 363 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 1: was it was kind of cool that you had, you 364 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 1: played with these great players, but you couldn't get on 365 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: the field because you know, you had four guys. You 366 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: mentioned Keith Simpson, John Harris, the two lesser known right 367 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 1: guys in that. But you know, we called that chapter 368 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: the original Legion of Boom because they were incredible. I 369 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: mean you mentioned the number of takeaways and you know, 370 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 1: and I remember the first time you, you know, got 371 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: a chance to start. I think it was because Kenny 372 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 1: had gotten sick the year before or whatever. You came 373 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,439 Speaker 1: out and had six interceptions and I think you were 374 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: alternate in the Pro Bowl that year. In nineteen eighty 375 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: eight and yeah, you just I mean they were loaded 376 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 1: and nobody really knew other than Kenny Easily. Really nobody 377 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,719 Speaker 1: really knew those guys' names. I mean, Dave Brown is 378 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: sixty two, I think it is, Yeah, sixty two, careerator 379 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 1: two intersect. 380 00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 2: He should be in the Hall of Fame. There's there's 381 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 2: no question. I mean he's he has the most interceptions 382 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 2: for someone who's not in the Hall of Fame. No, 383 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 2: it was, it was really John Harris was an incredible safety. 384 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,640 Speaker 2: Keith Simpson was probably one of the hardest hitting defensive 385 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 2: backs I've ever been around me. I remember one time 386 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,199 Speaker 2: against he played against Earl Campbell. Was actually before I 387 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 2: got there, but I saw it on film or they 388 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,639 Speaker 2: were showing some cut ups and he laid out Earl 389 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:36,679 Speaker 2: Campbell and Earl Campbell is you know, one of the 390 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 2: tough running backs ever. It was. Yeah, it's you know, 391 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 2: if you fast forward today with social media and if 392 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 2: we could have got over the hump into the Super Bowl, 393 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 2: there's for sure. Look, I think Jacob Green, I got 394 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 2: to talk about him. I think Jacob Green should be 395 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 2: in the Hall of Fame. They didn't start doing so 396 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:04,679 Speaker 2: until eighty one, eighty two whatever that number is, so 397 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,439 Speaker 2: his full career, he doesn't have him. You go and 398 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,719 Speaker 2: look at the sacks when he was there. I mean, 399 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 2: Jacob was a force. He was a bit undersized, but 400 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 2: he's also you know, he was an incredible leader. I mean, 401 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 2: I love Jacob Green. I love that team. There were 402 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:23,680 Speaker 2: so many good guys, you know, both sides of the ball. 403 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 2: You know, Steve Largent, I mean, just an incredible human being. 404 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 2: You know, Kurt Warner, We had Charlie Young, you know, 405 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 2: Blair Bush was our center. I mean, just some really 406 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 2: good David Hughes, you know, people that you some of 407 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 2: you may remember that going back that far and defensively, 408 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 2: you met Keith Butler. You know, you want a smart 409 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 2: football team, and why we got so many turnovers. Keith 410 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 2: Butler is one of the smartest linebackers besides you. Dave Wyman, 411 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 2: you know, who went on to become a defensive coordinator 412 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:57,439 Speaker 2: for Pittsburgh for many years. Really just a brilliant mind 413 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 2: there as well. But that whole second, you could not 414 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 2: play in our secondary if you weren't intelligent. Really, I mean, 415 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 2: it just it didn't work. And the type of scheme 416 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 2: they ran. People ask me all the time I got 417 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 2: you guys can't run it. It's not the exes and o's, 418 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 2: you will understand the xs and o's, but the amount 419 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 2: of times that we would go out there for thirty 420 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 2: minutes as a group and they would run every walk through, 421 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 2: every type of pass route you could with a combination 422 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:30,640 Speaker 2: either three on two or two on one. We went 423 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 2: over and over and over. So you just after a 424 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 2: while you weren't even thinking about it. And back then again, 425 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 2: we know you used to have three a days, you know, 426 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 2: and training camp, you know you could have here was 427 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 2: the other thing, Rota's First of all, we we were here, 428 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 2: I mean we weren't off, you know, down in California 429 00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 2: or somewhere else. Everybody was here working out together. And 430 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 2: it wasn't mandatory. We just wanted to do it. So 431 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 2: we played a lot of seven on seven and against 432 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 2: Steve Largent and who schooled us every day in practice. 433 00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:09,400 Speaker 2: Every day David would he would run and he would 434 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 2: be laughing at me. He would be he'd be running 435 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 2: down and looking at me, and as soon as he 436 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 2: knew I was looking at him, that was a problem 437 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 2: because I should have been looking down at his belt 438 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 2: buckle and he would laugh like, you know what I'm 439 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 2: about to do, and you still can't stop it, And 440 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 2: I couldn't. I mean, if you were inside, even if 441 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 2: you doubled them, he would beat you if you were inside. 442 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 3: He used to. 443 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 2: He taught me a couple of things that I taught 444 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 2: Eugene Robinson when he got when I was coaching him. 445 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 2: But what he would do is he would attack the 446 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 2: guy on a double team. If all of a sudden 447 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:50,880 Speaker 2: you were had inside technique, he would actually fake out 448 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,640 Speaker 2: and you would at that point open up because you're 449 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 2: feel vulnerable to the out even though you're just both 450 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 2: to protect the end. And he would cross face shit 451 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 2: every time every time. In practice drove me crazy. So 452 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 2: I wasn't the smartest guy because I couldn't figure that 453 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 2: one out till the very end. 454 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 1: Well, I remember Steve Largent saying that he would you know, 455 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 1: because a lot of times defensive backs, you're going to 456 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: take a side right, and I'm going to take this 457 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: side away, And he said, that's the way I'm going 458 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,520 Speaker 1: to beat you, because in your mind, you think you 459 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: have me locked up on the inside and you're looking 460 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: for an outside route, and he would beat So it's 461 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 1: kind of like a reverse psychology type of thing with 462 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 1: largent Yeah. 463 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,439 Speaker 2: I tried to teach and this would be hard to 464 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 2: describe on this right now, but I try to teach 465 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 2: that if you did a double team and a guy 466 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 2: faked an out, that you should actually turn in at 467 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 2: that point, not turn out, because as soon as you 468 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 2: turn out, if he cross facing tries to beat you 469 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 2: back inside, Now you got to clear your hips back 470 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 2: to square and then back to end. Well, just open 471 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,679 Speaker 2: up to the end you can, you can do the 472 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,760 Speaker 2: go route. If he goes, I'm just gonna be inside. 473 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 2: And then if he does break in and I'm just 474 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:09,400 Speaker 2: straight downhill. Try to teach it just it's just mentally, 475 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:13,679 Speaker 2: it's it's counterintuitive and it's really hard to do, but 476 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,480 Speaker 2: I wanted to be cutting edge. It never it never 477 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 2: quite worked on that one. 478 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 1: There was a story that Sam Merriman told me about 479 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 1: the AFC Championship game down and at the Coliseum. 480 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 3: It was about Tom Catlan and it has to do 481 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 3: with Tom Catlan. I'll just tell the story. 482 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 2: Tell the story. 483 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. 484 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: So after this was a story I heard from Sam Merriman, 485 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 1: Super Sam from Idaho and he was a great special 486 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 1: team player really good linebacker. But when you guys went 487 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 1: down to the coliseum where you played the AFC championship 488 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 1: game against the Raiders, I guess Sam had a bunch 489 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 1: of friends that came, and Tom Catlin, the defensive coordinator, 490 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:03,919 Speaker 1: knew about it, you know, knew that he was going 491 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 1: to have, you know, some friends there at the game 492 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: and everything. So you guys end up losing that game, 493 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: which again I have to look at it, but I 494 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: know you beat him twice during the regular Raiders So 495 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,200 Speaker 1: but he told me after the game that the crowd 496 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 1: just poured onto the field and you know, and everybody 497 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 1: was was pissed, right, And so you're walking off the 498 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: field and you got to like the tunnel where the 499 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:34,320 Speaker 1: coliseum is there, and some guy comes running over and 500 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: and Sam told me it was like guys were like 501 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: kind of getting together, like almost like circling, like we 502 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 1: got to get out of here, we got to get 503 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 1: out of this crowd. 504 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 3: So they get into the tunnel and I and Sam. 505 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,959 Speaker 1: Is walking with Tom Catlan, and you know, Tom Catlan 506 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 1: just very stoic, wouldn't say very many words at all, 507 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 1: just never showed a motion or anything. So some fan 508 00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: came up and got in his face. So now Tom 509 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 1: was he was a linebacker in the NFL back in 510 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,399 Speaker 1: like the fifties and sixties. So he gets in his 511 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:09,159 Speaker 1: face and starts screaming this fan, and Sam said, in 512 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 1: one motion, as quick as any of the players could 513 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: have done, he grabbed the guy by the throat, slams 514 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: him against the wall and punches him in the face, 515 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: and then you know, guy drops to the ground. 516 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,120 Speaker 3: And so then they keep walking. 517 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: And he knew, like I said that, that Sam had 518 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 1: some friends there at the game, and he just very 519 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 1: kind of quietly turns to Sam and goes, that wasn't 520 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:33,439 Speaker 1: one of your friends, was it. 521 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 2: That would be Tom Catlan, very stoic. And he was 522 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 2: a pilot too, Tom Cat, Yeah, I was. I was 523 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 2: flying to I was a coach at the time, and 524 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 2: we were flying to Texas A and m to you know, 525 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 2: scout some of the guys their nurse, you know, senior day, 526 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 2: senior pro day. And it was turbulent, you know, And 527 00:28:56,440 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 2: I was like, and he goes, we're good. He goes, uh, 528 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,240 Speaker 2: and he said, you know, as long as those engines 529 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 2: are going, he goes, we're good. He does, remember, he 530 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 2: goes terribly he said, it's just there, you know, and 531 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 2: he goes, you'll get it a little bit when he 532 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 2: was explaining when you get it because we were going 533 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 2: over like a lake and so there was a change 534 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 2: of heat and cold at the time. And and I 535 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 2: didn't know that about him either. He was you know 536 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 2: Tom Catlan, for he was our defensive coordinat for a 537 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 2: long time. It was actually one year was voted coach 538 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 2: of the Year and I think it was which they 539 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 2: had never had. I mean he was an assistant, you know, which. 540 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 3: Was ninety two seasons, I think so, I think it. 541 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 2: Was it was ninety two. He's just he was such 542 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 2: a good man. Yeah, you know he We had some 543 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 2: great coaches. I mean we had George Dyer who was 544 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:52,720 Speaker 2: a great defensive line coach. Again, Ralph Hawkins, our secondary coach, 545 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 2: really was a brilliant secondary coach, Tom Catlan, you know, 546 00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:01,680 Speaker 2: and then you know Chuck Knock, uh what we know. So, 547 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 2: just to bring it back and by the way, for 548 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 2: those who listen, eighty three that season, that last game 549 00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 2: he's talking about the La Raiders who went to the 550 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:14,719 Speaker 2: Oakland Raiders who are now the Las Vegas Las Vegas Raiders. 551 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 2: So they've changed their name a few times for those 552 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 2: who don't know that. Just again to throw out there, 553 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 2: Kenny easily barely played seven seasons, thirty two interceptions. John 554 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 2: Harris had fifty interceptions, and then Dave Brown had sixty two. 555 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 2: I think Earl Thomas has the most. He's around thirty. 556 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 2: Maybe Richard Sherman. Those two, they're right around the thirty range, 557 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 2: which you know, played a lot more games, and this 558 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,120 Speaker 2: was when people didn't throw that much, you know, so 559 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 2: there wasn't a lot of interceptions being thrown out there. 560 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 2: So yeah, again, just a really a really special group 561 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 2: this season. Feel every play, every hit, every moment with 562 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 2: the Sony one thousand x five noise canceling headphones, the 563 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 2: official headphones of the Seattle Seahawks. 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