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Speaker 1: What is going on? Everybody? John middle coop ran Out podcast.

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl is officially here, the Kansasy Chiefs versus San

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Speaker 1: Frasco forty Niners in Miami two weeks from Sunday, so

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Speaker 1: about you know, twelve days away, and we finally made it.

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Speaker 1: And that was a pretty interesting a f C and

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Speaker 1: NFC championship. I think the NFL has to be pretty

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Speaker 1: happy with their matchup. Patrick Mahomes, who's just an absolute

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Speaker 1: later against the forty Niners, who are really kind of

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Speaker 1: the Yankees of West Coast football. They played yesterday in

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Speaker 1: their seventeenth or excuse me si NFC championship and this

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Speaker 1: their headed to their seven Super Bowl. So it's the

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Speaker 1: brand of the Niners with the talent of the Niners

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Speaker 1: versus Andy and Mahomes, you know, one of the all

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Speaker 1: time great coaches the last thirty years, trying to win

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Speaker 1: US first Super Bowl. That this will not be a

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Speaker 1: excited me personally, Uh you know, I'm born and raised

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Speaker 1: in in Davis, California. The forty Niners basically owned from

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Speaker 1: They owned this region. It would be like living in

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Speaker 1: phillip You just grew up in Eagles fan. The differences.

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Speaker 1: We technically had two teams, But the Raiders, I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's it's I can't even if you're not from here,

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Speaker 1: it's harder to describe. The Niners are in just a

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Speaker 1: to take shots of the Raiders. It's just just a

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Speaker 1: and that they're they're just the marquee brand around here.

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Speaker 1: And for as crappy as this like last eight or

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Speaker 1: they've been there's our second super Bowl in the last

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Speaker 1: nine years. I think how many franchises would sell their

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Speaker 1: their soul for that, And just a reality with this

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Speaker 1: franchise is they they've had some big, big time moments,

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Speaker 1: you know, they really have. And then then Andy Reid.

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Speaker 1: If it wasn't for him, I wouldn't probably be talking

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Speaker 1: into a mic. He changed my life professionally, him and

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Speaker 1: the Eagles franchise. Uh and just I was lucky enough

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Speaker 1: but like all the coaches that he had, I mean,

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Speaker 1: from Matt Naggy, Sean McDermott to Doug Peterson. Got to

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Speaker 1: of mine, who's now Andy, Who's always been Andy's tight,

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty excited just to watch this game. It's should

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Speaker 1: be pretty cool, it really should. So we'll dive into Andy,

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Speaker 1: We'll dive into the homes, We'll dive into Kyle and

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Speaker 1: the Niners will go a little Middlecoff mail bag some

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Speaker 1: headlines at John Middlecoff is my Instagram handle slide up

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Speaker 1: into those d m s and I answer your questions

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Speaker 1: Coach Read and I you know one thing you hear

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Speaker 1: It just inevitably does. It's hard to overcome micro management

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Speaker 1: right and clearly, Coach Read hires his assistance and lets

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Speaker 1: And the other thing that I think, and I say

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Speaker 1: because it's just what happens. I've been fired twice. I

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Speaker 1: both times. Lad my life to becoming better professionally, personally,

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Speaker 1: They'll do whatever it takes to win. Think of all

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Speaker 1: He's just open minded. He'll do whatever it takes to win.

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Speaker 1: think you middle calf, you suck. Maybe you do. But

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Speaker 1: like he's not the smartest guy to ever coach in

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Speaker 1: that we're around, I guess it was probably just coch Read,

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Speaker 1: who's around far in Green Bay, would tell you this too,

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Speaker 1: Like this guy, he's got some unique freaking qualities. And

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Speaker 1: they they have they have put him in a position

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Speaker 1: where when you get a young quarterback, and I say

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Speaker 1: this all the time with like the Bills and even

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Speaker 1: the Ravens, like, hey, hey, guys, your quarterbacks aren't exactly

433
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Speaker 1: Drew Brees. Get him some bigger wide receivers. Now, I'll

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Speaker 1: give the Ravens credit. They got him some tight ends,

435
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Speaker 1: but Hollywood Brown, he's tiny. Get him a big wide receiver.

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Speaker 1: The Bills, let's get Josh Allen a couple of taller

437
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Speaker 1: wide receivers with some big catching radiuses. Let's let's let's

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Speaker 1: do that for him. Okay, look at look at the Eagles,

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Speaker 1: Like Boom, they got al Sean, they got Rbs, they

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Speaker 1: draft God or they j J. Rtega Whiteside. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if she's any good, but they tried to like

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Speaker 1: get bigger catching radius wide receivers help your young quarterback out.

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Speaker 1: Look at what the Chiefs did Tyreek Hill, who's small

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Speaker 1: but is unique, Kelsey Boom, they draft Hardeman, they draft

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Speaker 1: uh Or, they signed Sammy Watkins. They just take keep

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Speaker 1: taking swings for your young guy. Because when you have

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Speaker 1: a young quarterback and listen, like I said, Mahomes comes

448
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Speaker 1: around every twenty years. But whoever here you have, you

449
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Speaker 1: gotta you gotta do everything you possibly can to surround

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Speaker 1: him with the best opportunity to succeed. And the Chiefs

451
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Speaker 1: have done that. Mahomes has answered the bell. And it's

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Speaker 1: just been fun watching a guy who is in the

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Speaker 1: perfect situation to let his talents, you know, kind of

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Speaker 1: let let the cream rise to the top. Let's dive

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Speaker 1: into Kyle Shanahan and think about what really has made

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Speaker 1: his coaching career become this the Mahomes of coaches. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he feels like the modern day Bill Walsh. And how

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Speaker 1: do we get here? How did this happen? Now? He

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Speaker 1: clearly is unique that he was. His father was Mike Shanahan,

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Speaker 1: who's probably a top ten to fifteen coach. Ever multiple

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Speaker 1: Super Bowls, viewed as one of the great offensive minds

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Speaker 1: with the zone running scheme. Ever, right, I mean he's

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Speaker 1: he's unique. He now has a coaching three of guys

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Speaker 1: all around the NFL, and Kyle, I think is a

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Speaker 1: good example. It's not it's not where you start now.

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Speaker 1: He had a leg up on the competition. His last

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Speaker 1: name was Shanahan. That only gets you so far. Like

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Speaker 1: clearly Kyle who got his first quote unquote big break

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Speaker 1: in football getting a wide receiver coaching job in his

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Speaker 1: mid twenties with Gary Kubiak, who had played in coach

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Speaker 1: for Kyle's father. That was his in. But once you

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Speaker 1: get in, it's hard to get in. I didn't know

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Speaker 1: anyone in the NFL, but I worked with Pat Hill.

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Speaker 1: He made it called Andy Reid. One thing led to another.

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Speaker 1: I'm in. What did it matter that if my last

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Speaker 1: name had been Walsh or middlecoff? Who gives a ship.

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Speaker 1: Once I'm in, I'm in. Then it's on me. Like

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Speaker 1: in any job, whatever it takes you to get in

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Speaker 1: the door. Sometimes it's harder to get in the door.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes it's easier to get in the door. You know

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Speaker 1: what all that matters is you get in the door.

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Speaker 1: Once you're in that door, it's on you to take

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Speaker 1: advantage of it. Also, it's you just might not be

484
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Speaker 1: good enough. You might eventually get weeded out. Kyle Shanahan

485
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Speaker 1: gets his opportunity at wide receiver coach, like three years later,

486
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Speaker 1: he's Gary Kubiak's offensive coordinator and they're putting up yards

487
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Speaker 1: on everybody. And then his father gets a special opportunity

488
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Speaker 1: to run the Redskins and he leaves for a lateral

489
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Speaker 1: move to call plays for his dad. Unique I think

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Speaker 1: we all would have done it, and it kind of

491
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Speaker 1: goes up and smoke. They have the one year with

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Speaker 1: r G three that went well, they made the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: but the irony is they never wanted r G three.

494
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Speaker 1: That wasn't the type player they wanted. And in that

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Speaker 1: situation I think for Kyle, and it ended up blowing up.

496
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Speaker 1: Dan Snyder fired him all him and his dad got fired.

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Speaker 1: Can you imagine the highs of highs of going to

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Speaker 1: work with your dad and knowing that the scrutiny and

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Speaker 1: everything that's gonna come along with it, and then failing

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Speaker 1: with your dad, like the power that that must feel

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Speaker 1: inside of you, Like I can't even begin to comprehend

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Speaker 1: that some of you listening may work in family businesses,

503
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Speaker 1: may have had family businesses go under, and maybe you

504
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Speaker 1: had to resurrect it with your dad. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: but I I can't even begin to think of failing

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Speaker 1: with your father. The power that that that would be

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00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: stronger than failing individually, for sure. So that instance of

508
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Speaker 1: going to Washington and failing really was it their fault?

509
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: I mean they never wanted r G three ever. Now

510
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Speaker 1: they didn't want Kirk Cousins. But if they had Kirk Cousins,

511
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Speaker 1: would they have probably just won some more games with

512
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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins from the jump. Maybe who knows, maybe it

513
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 1: was destined to fail, you could argue in Washington it

514
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Speaker 1: was then he tries to get his career kind of

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Speaker 1: back on track, goes to the Cleveland Freaking Browns, and

516
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Speaker 1: again was clear like he's pretty good offensive mind did

517
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Speaker 1: not want Johnny Menzel abruptively quits. Kind of a weird situation.

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Speaker 1: There had to be a point in time in his

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Speaker 1: mind where he goes is my career, like is my

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Speaker 1: reputation around the How am I gonna get this back?

521
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 1: I was talking to a coach the other day on texts.

522
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Speaker 1: He's like, you know, my reputation in the league, or

523
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 1: you know, people worry a lot about their reputations. Just

524
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Speaker 1: in general. What people think about me, how they don't

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Speaker 1: think about me, is in a good light, is in

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Speaker 1: a positive light. I my take is in two thousand

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Speaker 1: twenty and every year that we move forward, reputations like

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Speaker 1: when you're in good graces or when everyone's talking about you,

529
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: has never come and gone at faster rates. One day

530
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 1: you could be the village idiot. The next day you

531
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Speaker 1: could be a genius. And part of it is just

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Speaker 1: the media cycle, social media, the pace in which society lives.

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Speaker 1: This ain't seventy four. We're all watching the baseball game.

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00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: Everyone's in the fast lane. Now. We we forget just

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Speaker 1: as quickly as we learn it. You could argue it's sad,

536
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Speaker 1: regardless what you think about it. It's just a reality.

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Speaker 1: This is these are the times we're living in. Matt

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Speaker 1: Naggie was a genius two years ago, and then he

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Speaker 1: doesn't make the playoffs and everyone thinks he's an idiot.

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00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,719
Speaker 1: It's like, well they didn't go three and thirteen, they

541
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Speaker 1: went eight and eight with Mr Bisky. It's gonna be okay.

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Speaker 1: If Naggy makes the playoffs next year, everyone will be okay.

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00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 1: Maybe Natt Nagi is one of the good young coaches,

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Speaker 1: he'll be okay. Same with Sean McVeigh. Everyone's like, oh,

545
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Speaker 1: mcveig's an idiot. And I've even said, like Sean, you

546
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Speaker 1: gotta be open minded. And if he comes back and

547
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Speaker 1: they go ten and six and they're in the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: he'll be fine. He's not an idiot. Matt Naggie and

549
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh will be okay. You know that. Trust me.

550
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 1: I'm pretty confident in that. But when you look at Kyle.

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Speaker 1: Then he goes to dan Quinn, someone who's he's gone

552
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Speaker 1: on record this year. He didn't know him. And when

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Speaker 1: he got with dan Quinney said, I've never been around

554
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Speaker 1: a guy like this. So here's a couple of things.

555
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Speaker 1: One failure multiple times led him to dan Quinn somewhat.

556
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Speaker 1: If he was just not quit Cleveland never would have happened.

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Speaker 1: And then he realized, because I think Kylie Kyle could

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Speaker 1: be a little surlier, could be a little darker, I

559
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 1: guess would be a way to describe him. Realize that

560
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: this dan Quinn guy, it's like a ball Pete Carroll,

561
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Speaker 1: He's bouncing up and down. We're shooting hoops in the

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Speaker 1: meeting rooms. Everything's fun. Two years later, we're in the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. We're in the We had one of the

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Speaker 1: great offensive seasons in the history of the league. Mattie

565
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: Ice won the m v P. Say that out loud.

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Speaker 1: Matt Ryan won an m v P. I like Matt Ryan,

567
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 1: think he's a good player, but to say that out

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00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 1: loud again, Matt Ryan won an m v P. What

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Speaker 1: an incredible accomplishment for Kyle Shanahan. He's having the best

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Speaker 1: year of his life. Boom. They go right to the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Boom. They're up to three in the Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl against the New England Patriots, Belichick Brady in the

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Speaker 1: midst of their dynasty, and they lose the game. So

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Speaker 1: in his greatest individual professional season, he ends up having

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Speaker 1: probably his most devastating loss besides like his most devastating

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Speaker 1: career part with his dad of getting fired. But an

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00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: individual game had to be Atlanta. But there was some

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00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: light at the end of the tunnel because he had

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Speaker 1: already accepted the forty Niners job. Then he comes to

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Speaker 1: the forty Niners and their team is terrible, I mean

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Speaker 1: god awful. He hasn't cut all these guys, gotta bring

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Speaker 1: in all these new players the first year, they get

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Speaker 1: Jimmy at the end. So really their record was better

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Speaker 1: than their actual team. Look because they were one and

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Speaker 1: ten by the time Jimmy showed up, and then he

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00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: won the last five games, they went six and ten.

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Speaker 1: Then the next year it looked like they might be

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Speaker 1: a competitive wild card team. Jimmy terris a c L

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Speaker 1: so in two years, like god, what is going on?

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Speaker 1: But to me, the one thing I always said about

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Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan is those two years when Ship was hitting

592
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Speaker 1: the fan, the team just was not winning any games.

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Speaker 1: They were gonna the second time. Once Jimmy gets hurt,

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Speaker 1: they're clearly they're gonna draft in the top five. I

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00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: watched the guy uh enter every press conference after a win,

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00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 1: after a lot more losses every week when it was

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00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: just ugly forty fans were piste and handle it like.

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00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: He was fifty five years old and had been coaching

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00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 1: in the league for twenty five years, and a huge

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Speaker 1: reason he was prepared for that was because of the

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Speaker 1: experiences he had just gone through. And think how many

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00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: coaches and two thousand twenty like have never been have

603
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: never called plays. Joe Judges never called place He's ran

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00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: special teams units. But besides maybe a trick play, you

605
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 1: don't really call plays. You just go punt return, kick off.

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00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: Now you coach it during the week. But think of

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00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: the difference and experience levels of Kyle Shanahan and Joe Judge.

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Speaker 1: I'm just using him for an example. I'm not some

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Speaker 1: Joe Judge Hayter. I'm just showing you that. Like when

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Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan in two thousand seventeen showed up to a

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00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: disastrous situation. He had been calling plays for almost a decade,

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Speaker 1: he had been fired multiple times, and on the grandest

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Speaker 1: stage of all of sports, had one of the most

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Speaker 1: devastating losses we've ever seen. Now, he wasn't the head coach,

615
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: but he was leading the offense, and he did get

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00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 1: a lot of ship for it. Like, Kyle, why didn't

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Speaker 1: you run? And i'd I think it's a fair question.

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Speaker 1: And if you've seen him during his Niner's tenure, all

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Speaker 1: he does is run the ball and he shoves it

620
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 1: right down your throat. And he did it to Green

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Speaker 1: Bay until they said uncle, I texted a buddy in

622
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 1: the league probably about third quarter in the in the

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Speaker 1: NFC Championship game, and I said, only Kyle Shanahan can

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Speaker 1: run out the clock in which they were doing. Jimmy

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00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 1: Garoppolo through eight passes six of eight for seventy seven

626
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Speaker 1: yards an all timeline and make it look fun running reverses,

627
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Speaker 1: running sweet like zone shotgun gun runs out of the

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Speaker 1: stret It was just awesome. It was fun to watch

629
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Speaker 1: double reverses the debot and it was just gashing them.

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00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,919
Speaker 1: They had no clue what was coming in the third

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Speaker 1: and fourth quarter when all Kyle was trying to do

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Speaker 1: was run out the clock. He's a brilliant coach. And

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Speaker 1: part of it is clearly the way you grow up.

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00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: Whatever you do usually listen. My dad was big into sports.

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00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 1: It wasn't like I didn't randomly get into words. We

636
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 1: watched a lot of games in my home. Now, I

637
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 1: don't love football anywhere near the level in which Kyle

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00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: likes football. I like, I'm more of a general sports guy.

639
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: I clearly like football lot of dedicated my life to

640
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 1: it professionally, but not at the level in which Kyle.

641
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: I don't eat, breathe, and sleep it every day, not

642
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,320
Speaker 1: by any means and to be a great coach you

643
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,239
Speaker 1: have to do that. And I think a lot of

644
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 1: coaches think they do, But Kyle truly does. I know.

645
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: Coach Reid truly does. I know Sean McDermott truly does.

646
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 1: I've seen Matt Naggie does like good coaches do. Doug

647
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:39,479
Speaker 1: Peterson does. Uh. But Kyle Shanahan then took that plus

648
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,800
Speaker 1: his experiences like he didn't. He wasn't just born to

649
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: call plays. You learn it like anything else, Like Tiger

650
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: Woods didn't just come out of the womb and hit

651
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,839
Speaker 1: sweet golf shots. It was was Malcolm Gladwell, say ten

652
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 1: thou hours. Think of the amount of work Kyle Shanahan

653
00:35:55,760 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 1: had put put in two coaching to calling play before

654
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,839
Speaker 1: this season even started. And you go, well, he's only

655
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 1: forty years old. But he wasn't your typical forty year old.

656
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 1: He started coaching positions in like the early mid like

657
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: two thousand five, two thousand, six thousand seven. He was

658
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 1: a position coach right next to Gary Kubiak. Then Gary

659
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,240
Speaker 1: Kubiak allowed him to call place, Then his father allowed

660
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: him to call place. Then Mike Petton had him calling plays,

661
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 1: then Dan Quinn had him calling plays. It wasn't like

662
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 1: was he how many plays did he call? Kind of

663
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,040
Speaker 1: like a Joe Brady or how much does Andy let

664
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: Eric Bannemy called place. It was Kyle's calling the freaking plays.

665
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: And clearly, as a human through all that experience, you mature.

666
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: I've seen it in myself. I think most people listening

667
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 1: if you're over the age of like twenty five there

668
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: like you know, you kind of grow every year you

669
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 1: gain more maturity. I'm just talking about not blowing up

670
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 1: when you're in traffic, not freaking out because something doesn't

671
00:36:56,440 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 1: work right. Things usually don't go as play. And that's

672
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 1: why you know, the older you get, the more experience

673
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: you have, and whatever you do, you're more equipped to

674
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: handle it, because the first time you go through something

675
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: when it doesn't go as planned, you freak. It's human nature,

676
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:21,280
Speaker 1: right the moment a young uh gazelle in the African

677
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: Prairie season lion, he got no clue what to do.

678
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 1: After you've been chased tenner twenty or thirty or fifty times,

679
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 1: you've got a pretty good idea how to avoid the thing.

680
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: It's no different than the coach. The more experience you have,

681
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,839
Speaker 1: the better you are. Bill Walsh became the greatest coach

682
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 1: ever in the eighties. He got his job when he

683
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,920
Speaker 1: was like sixty years old. Would you have been Bill

684
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 1: Walsh if you got his opportunity at forty? Does it

685
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: suck to have to wait? Sure? Did Kyle have to

686
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: wait as long as many? No? But he also got

687
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 1: thrown into the fire pretty early, and he clearly, you know,

688
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,399
Speaker 1: I've never seen was a brilliant mind with Russell Crowe

689
00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 1: or beautiful mind. It sure kind of feels like, yeah,

690
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: Kyle was born into it became it is the family business.

691
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: But is there a chance he's better than his dad?

692
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,399
Speaker 1: And his dad won two Super Bowls? Now? Was Kyle

693
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 1: gonna win the Super Bowl? I don't know, But I've

694
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 1: just watched the way Kyle built the forty Niners, the

695
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,800
Speaker 1: way his players talk about him in winning and losing. Like,

696
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 1: did you you saw the Cleveland Browns this year? They

697
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 1: went six and ten? You would have thought they won

698
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: one game. I watched the Niners win four games. I

699
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 1: watched the way Richard Sherman, the way Joe Staley, the

700
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 1: way McGlinchey, the way you know these George Kittle, the

701
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 1: way they talked about Fred Warner. I mean they swore

702
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: by the guy. They just like got I'm telling you,

703
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: this thing is gonna work. This guy is really impressive.

704
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 1: That's not typical. Usually when you lose, it is like

705
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: Pat Shermer, like get this guy out of here, can

706
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 1: we We can't fire him fast enough. It was the

707
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 1: complete opposite with Kyle. And it wasn't just fake because

708
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: he ran some loosey goosey ship. He actually runs. I

709
00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 1: mean it's an intense deal, not necessarily like Belichick, which

710
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 1: you gotta stand up straight, you gotta know the history,

711
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 1: just more the intensity of the playbook and the the

712
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,240
Speaker 1: standard in which he holds you two as a player.

713
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 1: He's listen. I don't think it's hyperbole to say he's

714
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 1: got a chance to be an all timer. And it's

715
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 1: not even about this super Bowl. I'm talking about for

716
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 1: the future, Like who's stopping this guy because he's kind

717
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 1: of a guy that's kind of figured it all out

718
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 1: at a really really early age. But it's understandable why

719
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:32,800
Speaker 1: he did in an early age. He started at a

720
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: super early age, and he was given a lot of

721
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 1: responsibility and now he's part laid this into a Super

722
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,760
Speaker 1: Bowl birth at forty with the San Fransco forty Niners,

723
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Speaker 1: and it really looks like he's gonna be one of

724
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: the powerhouse coaches for the next foreseeable future. Okay, let's

725
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: dive into a couple of other things. I guess we

726
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: could start with the other two teams that play. Let's

727
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 1: start with the Titans. They had a remarkable season. It's

728
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 1: just stay remarkable run that they went on, uh to

729
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: beat the teams in which they did, given the you know,

730
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,280
Speaker 1: the level of underdog they were for three straight weeks.

731
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 1: To go on the road to New England, then on

732
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 1: the road to Baltimore and then even on the road

733
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Speaker 1: to Kansas City and take a tend nothing ly like

734
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Speaker 1: it was really really impressive. And I said on the

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00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 1: last podcast, I'll continue to say it. I really think

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00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,359
Speaker 1: that Rabel has a chance to be the modern day

737
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 1: Parcels like that. That's to me, his comp like he's

738
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 1: that type of coach. He is. He he just falls

739
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 1: like he's not Belichick cerebral. I mean he is a

740
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 1: cerebral guy. He just he's unique, and I really think

741
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 1: he's got a chance to be the modern day Belichick. Now,

742
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 1: they got some questions, what do you do with Derrick

743
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 1: Henry this offseason, I would imagine they pay him. What

744
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 1: do you do with Ryan Tannehill this season? I'd imagine

745
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 1: you keep on a short term deal. Marcus Mariotta is

746
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: gonna hit free agency? What what happens to him? Uh?

747
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 1: But man, they are. If I was a Titans fan,

748
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: I'd be pretty excited. I got a good GM, I

749
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 1: got a really good head coach, I got some young

750
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 1: core pieces. My team is tough, my team is physical.

751
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 1: We have a clear identity. My coach knows what he's

752
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: looking for. If you're Titans fan, you're in a pretty

753
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: good place. The Packers. We can nitpick all we want

754
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: about how it looked, and it didn't look that pretty right.

755
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 1: Even the sixth straight games they won before the NFC

756
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: Championship game, they struggled to be the Lions. They didn't

757
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: look that good against the Redskins, the first half against

758
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 1: the Giants. Their best game was probably the game against Minnesota.

759
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 1: They did have a good first half against Seattle in

760
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:40,000
Speaker 1: the playoffs, but when you look at the Packer season

761
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: and overall, it was a major success. They had missed

762
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: the playoffs two years in a row. They get back

763
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 1: to the NFC Championship game. Now, once I got to

764
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 1: the NFC Championship Game, they were outclassed, outmanned, and they

765
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 1: were just not even in the same stratosphere as the forty.

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Speaker 1: Now here's the question as of recording this, I'm kind

767
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 1: of recording it earlier on a Monday. There are some

768
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: reports that Mike pet might not be back, which I

769
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 1: think is a little crazy. Like I think Mike Petton

770
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 1: is a pretty good defensive coordinator. Who is Matt Lafleur hiring.

771
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 1: That's a better defensive coordinator than Mike Petton. I I

772
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: don't feel like watching the Green Bay Packerson Mike Petton

773
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,760
Speaker 1: was the problem. I think their offense was the problem.

774
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: They can't score any points. Their personnel and offense isn't

775
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 1: good enough. They need more weapons for Rogers, not an

776
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 1: old Jimmy Graham and one wide receiver. I still think

777
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: you can win with Aaron Rodgers. He just needs more help.

778
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 1: He is no longer carrying the franchise on his back.

779
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 1: Is Pete Lebron Those days are over. He needs help

780
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 1: and you need to put guys around him. And I

781
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: think Goudikins and his resume so far of being aggressive

782
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: in a short term as general manager, he will. I

783
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 1: expect the Packers will be pretty good next year. Now,

784
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: I'm not still not the biggest believer in their head coach.

785
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 1: How often do really good head coaches get blown out

786
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 1: in playoff games? When the last time Belichick got blown

787
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: out in a playoff game? Could could you see Kyle

788
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,839
Speaker 1: Shanahan getting blown out in a playoff game? When when

789
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 1: is Andy Reid ever got blown out in the playoff game?

790
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 1: That's not ideal, you know. I get that they were

791
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:05,839
Speaker 1: the underdog for a reason, they were not the better team,

792
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 1: but the game was over before the first half even ended.

793
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 1: You know, really great coaches, that doesn't happen to And

794
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to act like listen, I thought they

795
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 1: would have they would be a disaster. He was not

796
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:22,800
Speaker 1: a disaster. So I'm wrong, you know, in terms of that.

797
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 1: But I'm not gonna come out here and say I

798
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:26,879
Speaker 1: think he's one of the best young coaches in the league,

799
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,359
Speaker 1: because I just don't believe that. Like, I don't see

800
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: some dynamic coach, and especially if he fires the defensive

801
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 1: coordinator that could be you know, you might take thinking

802
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 1: you're taking a step forward you might take up steps back. Uh.

803
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,800
Speaker 1: Some other headlines, Philip Rivers moved his family to Florida.

804
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 1: He's moved his entire family to Florida. Now, the big

805
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,720
Speaker 1: question is what will the Chargers do. Deean Spanos is petty,

806
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 1: Dean Spanos is cheap. I can't imagine Dean Spanos wanting

807
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 1: to lose his quarterback asset for nothing. The problem though,

808
00:43:56,719 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 1: is Rivers might be kind of washed. I'm not really

809
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: sure where I stand on Rivers the player. I no

810
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 1: longer think he's definitely a Pro Bowl caliber guy, but

811
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,319
Speaker 1: he's probably not as bad as we all think. I mean,

812
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 1: just when you play with Anthony Lynn and just some

813
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 1: of the just the Chargers in that home field, it's

814
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 1: hard to overcome. Man. Uh, could he have one last

815
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 1: one song? If he played for the Bears, if he

816
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,040
Speaker 1: played for the Tennessee Titans, if if something like that happened,

817
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 1: I think so so I would. I would say that

818
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 1: Rivers might have one more swing him. If he comes

819
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 1: back with the Chargers, same ship, different pile, they'll just

820
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: be an average Charger team. If he goes somewhere else,

821
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 1: maybe he can strike lightning in a bottle helda the

822
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:39,919
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans the Chicago Bears, I think are two teams

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00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 1: that would make sense the Senior Bowl starting this week.

824
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:47,320
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert is playing in it, which I think is

825
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:51,279
Speaker 1: smart because Tah is hurt. Joe Brady doesn't need to

826
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: play in it. Justin Herbert can really establish himself as

827
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 1: a sweet NFL player. All the general managers are there,

828
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: well except maybe like John Lanch and Brett Veach. I

829
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: would imagine each goes Lynch probably, but neither of those

830
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 1: guys are taking a quarterback. This can be This guy

831
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 1: can have a big week and he can kind of

832
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 1: solidify himself as the top three or four pick, even

833
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 1: though he probably already is. But I mean, he can

834
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: hammer it home. He can take the hammer out, put

835
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 1: the nail on the wall and just put it flush

836
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 1: against the wall. What's up everyone, I'm here. And when

837
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 1: you have a big arm, when you're a big time

838
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 1: athlete and you're a smart guy, you should always want

839
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:28,839
Speaker 1: to go to the Senior Bowl. That's the right move.

840
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: That was my mom calling my little brothers having a

841
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: baby today, So I guess as a as a family member,

842
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: I have to go a little later. That's why I'm

843
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 1: recording this early. Bill O'Brien fired more people. Shocker. The

844
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 1: guy's always firing people. That's what he does. He fires

845
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: people like Bill Romeo Cornell is the problem. Maybe your

846
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:53,399
Speaker 1: personnel wasn't that good fired his interim GM like, it's

847
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,800
Speaker 1: never Bill O'Brien's fault. Can never fire himself. Clearly he

848
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Speaker 1: wouldn't do that, but he' he easily points the finger

849
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: at other people. It feels like the Texans, for a

850
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 1: team that wins a lot, is not really the most

851
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 1: stable operation. Honestly, they feel completely unstable. It really is

852
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 1: wild that they're able to function as well as they

853
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:19,879
Speaker 1: do with crazy Billy Oh running the show. Let's dive

854
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: into the Middlecoff mailbag has always slide up into those

855
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 1: d m s at John Middlecoff is my Instagram and

856
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: I answer your questions here from Chris question about NFL

857
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 1: salary caps. How do NFL contracts like Richard Sherman's small base,

858
00:46:33,719 --> 00:46:36,280
Speaker 1: heavy incentive impact the salary cap and how do teams

859
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,959
Speaker 1: plan for this type of contract? Is the cap based

860
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 1: on guaranteed money or total contract paid out at the

861
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 1: end of the season. Just curious if there's any loophole

862
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 1: here where teams could sign a star player for relatively

863
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 1: small base take a small cap hit well. Star players

864
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 1: never signed for incentive stuff because they always have the

865
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 1: leverage to get real money. And the reason Richard Sherman

866
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 1: did it. And really, when you say small base, I

867
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:03,800
Speaker 1: think like a million dollars or two. His base was

868
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 1: like eight and a half nine million dollars. He just

869
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 1: wasn't making thirteen fourteen high cornerback money because he was

870
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 1: coming off the Chilles. But he's still whether he made

871
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 1: the the All Pros and the Pro Bowls and all

872
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,759
Speaker 1: that bs, he was getting decent money. I mean, hell,

873
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 1: he was getting great and nine billion dollars a lot

874
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 1: of money. Uh So, full disclosure. I'm not exactly sure.

875
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 1: I've talked to people about this, but I kind of forget.

876
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: You do have to pay for it, Like if I

877
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,759
Speaker 1: give you, uh, let's you a super high incentive, like

878
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 1: a two million dollar Pro Bowl incentive, which would be

879
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,160
Speaker 1: a usually right incentives, or like a hunter grand two

880
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 1: d grand. Big ones are like three grand, but you

881
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 1: rarely see like million dollar kickers like Richards was unique.

882
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 1: I'd have to text some people with the niners. I'm

883
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 1: pretty sure it kind of hits you. Maybe the next season.

884
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 1: I hate to even speculate because I'm not exactly sure,

885
00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:01,480
Speaker 1: but I know it doesn't just not it doesn't just

886
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 1: not count. It counts. I'm just not exactly sure. Okay,

887
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: I love the show. I'm in high school. I'm a

888
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 1: high school senior who was, unfortunately Atlanta Falcons football fan.

889
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,320
Speaker 1: Next season a super Bowl or bus for Dan Quinn.

890
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: I don't think it's super Bowl or bus, but it's

891
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 1: definitely the playoffs. You know, you're bringing back Matt Ryan,

892
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 1: You're basically bringing back the majority of your coaching staff.

893
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be clear pressure on them to

894
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 1: make the playoffs. They still have a really good offense.

895
00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 1: They need to play better on defense. They got such

896
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 1: a slow start. If they can just get off to

897
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 1: a quicker start, you know, the Panther should come back

898
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 1: to Earth a little bit. I mean they're already back

899
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 1: to Earth. They got a new coach. The Tampa Bay

900
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 1: depends on what they do at quarterback. You would think

901
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: the Saints are still gonna be really good. But yeah,

902
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 1: it's gonna be It's gonna be interesting. I've adopted the

903
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 1: Chiefs as my team since Crokey decided to scorch the

904
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 1: earth in the entire St. Louis Rams fan base. Is

905
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 1: it possible that day Aniel Sorenson is actually the most

906
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 1: important player, not necessarily the best on the Chief defense?

907
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,879
Speaker 1: Is that me being a b y U A lumhomer. Yeah,

908
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 1: he's definitely, I mean mahomes Hill, honey badger. There are

909
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,279
Speaker 1: a lot of other guys more bored, but he's made

910
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 1: to enormous place the stop on the fake punt and

911
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 1: then the open field tackle yesterday of Ryan tanne Hill

912
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 1: now and he's got a sofa spot for the b

913
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 1: y U guys. And Sorenston has been a made guy.

914
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 1: And if you tell the scouts, they're like, yeah, we

915
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: probably love a better guy, but that's not Sorenston has

916
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,960
Speaker 1: earned his right to be on this team. You play

917
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 1: special teams, you're a physical guy, and he's made too

918
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:42,320
Speaker 1: enormous plays in the playoffs. So yeah, you're always with

919
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 1: coach Ree, you're gonna have a b y U guy.

920
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: He's a b y U guy on the squad, and

921
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 1: you just hope he's a good player. And Sorenston is

922
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:52,320
Speaker 1: a very very solid backup, which is why he is

923
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:57,120
Speaker 1: uh which is in the position right now. First half

924
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 1: of the San Francisco game down. I think Mosley heard

925
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 1: you call him just a guy. I agree, Let's see

926
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:06,120
Speaker 1: how it plays out. I don't know who called Moseley

927
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 1: just a guy. I'm not really sure what this is.

928
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 1: This is just an instagram. I do think that Emmanuel Moseley.

929
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,920
Speaker 1: I've been watching the NFL for ten plus years being

930
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 1: paid for as a scout in the media. Emmanuel Moseley

931
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 1: is one of the best undrafted free agent corners I've

932
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:24,400
Speaker 1: ever seen. There are certain positions guard you see it,

933
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 1: running back, you see it, wide receiver you see it

934
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:30,279
Speaker 1: see every once in a while, safeties. You rarely see

935
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,800
Speaker 1: undrafted free agent corners plan starting on one of the

936
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 1: best defense in the league. And he's a starter on

937
00:50:35,719 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 1: one of the best defensive league. Pretty nuts. What do

938
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 1: you think about the Titans need to do to make

939
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 1: a legitimate Super Bowl run? It seems like they get

940
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 1: killed by speeding their losses this year. Do you think

941
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,480
Speaker 1: they need to focus on more receivers or maybe more

942
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 1: pieces on defense? Yeah, I mean, I actually thought their

943
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: defense was fine. I I think their problem was they're

944
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:55,359
Speaker 1: not gonna be explosive enough on offensive Ryan Tannehill? Now

945
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:57,839
Speaker 1: is that them not letting him throw? Because I had

946
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 1: coaches texting me yesterday, like sever Able, he's getting a

947
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: little conservative. You gotta pass to take the lead and

948
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 1: run to win in this league. Now, you can run

949
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 1: to win against certain teams against like the Patriots, who

950
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 1: couldn't score against the Chiefs. You're not running to win.

951
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 1: That ain't happening. You gotta pass to You gotta pass

952
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: to score. Now you can run also to score. But

953
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 1: you gotta do both. And they weren't potent enough throwing

954
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 1: the ball. So are you gonna franchise Ryan Tannehill? Can

955
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: you get Philip Rivers? What are your other options? I

956
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 1: don't think Ryan Tannehill is a lot to come back.

957
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 1: I think Derrick Henry is coming back. But I think

958
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: you you maybe get Philip Rivers or someone like that,

959
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,879
Speaker 1: and you draft a wide receiver. I think they need

960
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 1: more explosion on offense. A J. Brown good player, Derrick

961
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 1: Henry good player. They need more. That's not enough. See

962
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:44,320
Speaker 1: what the Chiefs are rolling out, see what the Niners

963
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 1: are rolling out, and you would say, God, their offense

964
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 1: is still a long way away. They got Kittle, They

965
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 1: got Mostert, they got Coleman. Brada doesn't even play. They

966
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 1: have Deebo Samuels, who's a monster. They trade for Emmanuel Sanders.

967
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 1: Guys like Dante Pettis can't even get on the field.

968
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:04,640
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's about team speed. Baby, Excuse if I

969
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:12,319
Speaker 1: can find some more questions. Here's a good question three

970
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 1: and out question. What does it mean when a coach

971
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 1: is listening as a position coach quote passing game coordinator

972
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,240
Speaker 1: quote example, Chris Shard was the dB coach and passing

973
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 1: game coordinator in Dallas. M dumbask just assumed the OC

974
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 1: handles all coordination on the offense with help from the

975
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 1: running back, tight end, wide receiver coaches. Am I just

976
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 1: ignorant or how team structure? I think a lot of

977
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 1: times team structure it for pay raises because in every offense,

978
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 1: like if Andy reads your offensive coordinator, well, you're running

979
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:45,720
Speaker 1: back coach and your offensive line are usually in charge

980
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 1: of kind of figuring out what you're gonna do in

981
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 1: the run game. Then Andy, the quarterback coach, and the

982
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 1: wide receiver coach probably put together the passing game. Then

983
00:52:53,239 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 1: they meet throughout the week and they put together the plan.

984
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,239
Speaker 1: Same with defense. You got your coordinator who has the

985
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 1: big picture plans your defense, to line coaches dealing with

986
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 1: the pressures, your linebacker coaches helping him out, and maybe

987
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 1: a deep defensive defensive back coaches worrying about, you know,

988
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 1: the coverages you want to play. I think it varies

989
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 1: team to team. I think a lot of times the

990
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 1: titles can be a little misleading and don't necessarily say

991
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 1: the whole story. I'm pretty sure that Chris Rochard was

992
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 1: calling the defense last year, so I think that's a

993
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:32,440
Speaker 1: big reason why, uh you know that title? Really he

994
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:39,399
Speaker 1: might have just been the defensive coordinator. Since football only

995
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 1: has one week left, are you going to continue your

996
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:43,320
Speaker 1: show in the off season? How about you follow the

997
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 1: XFL and discussed that. I go two times a week, three, six, five. Baby,

998
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:50,359
Speaker 1: there was no stop in this train. And we got

999
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:55,120
Speaker 1: the draft, we have free agency. It's never gonna stop,

1000
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 1: so get ready. It's gonna keep going. And obviously we've

1001
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 1: got the super then we got the combine, then we

1002
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 1: got free agency, then we got the drafts. Let's kick

1003
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 1: this bad boy in overdrive. I ain't stopping. You keep

1004
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 1: listening and we'll keep on rolling. Appreciate everyone listening, Enjoy

1005
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 1: the week. I'll talk to you guys on Friday. Tell

1006
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:15,600
Speaker 1: all your friends about the rein out pos