Speaker 1: Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition
Speaker 1: of the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side Network. Ready, Ready,
Speaker 1: let's get it all. How's it going, everybody? Brian Alvarez
Speaker 1: here on Wrestling Observer Live. We are here every day
Speaker 1: Monday through Friday, New Pacific three Eastern, Sunday three Pacific,
Speaker 1: six Eastern Saturdays, tending a Pacific one Eastern with the
Speaker 1: returning Jim Valley the show from Las Vegas this weekend.
Speaker 1: Holy smokes, you'd love to get into here today. Bad
Speaker 1: news is always, but also we've got some lineups and
Speaker 1: some fun stuff to get into here as well. I
Speaker 1: want to invest wishes to the family of Carl Lour
Speaker 1: Cauliflower Alley Club. We talked about it last night on
Speaker 1: the Wrestling Observer Radio show with Dave Meltzer, man of
Speaker 1: a few times. Didn't really know him all that well,
Speaker 1: but he was a key figure in uh call Flower Alley,
Speaker 1: which was not why Jim Valley was in Las Vegas,
Speaker 1: mind you. But I would bet that Jim Valley will
Speaker 1: be attending the Cauliflower Alley Club banquet coming up this
Speaker 1: year as well. The Ormond the Ormond Beach Police Department
Speaker 1: provided an update on the criminal investigation of Tammy Sich
Speaker 1: w w WE Hall of Famer, suspected of d u
Speaker 1: I and a fatal car crash led to the death
Speaker 1: of seventy five year old Julian Lassener. March. Department released
Speaker 1: a statement to p W Insider noting that they have
Speaker 1: received part of the toxicology report. We ever see part
Speaker 1: of the toxicology report. If charges are filed, they will
Speaker 1: not be until the investigation is completed. We will update
Speaker 1: the press release once a decision is reached. You know,
Speaker 1: this is this is not new and I don't even listen.
Speaker 1: I'm not in this line of work. But I remember
Speaker 1: in the nineties. Obviously there were a lot of issues
Speaker 1: with drugs and alcohol in the nineties and lots of
Speaker 1: toxicology reports. Oh my god, those things took forever to
Speaker 1: come back, and uh, here we are. It's now twenty
Speaker 1: two and I guess I kind of had this idea
Speaker 1: that you know, it's been uh whatever, you know, twenty
Speaker 1: five years. These things got to come back faster nowadays. No,
Speaker 1: So anyway, still waiting for the results of toxicology test
Speaker 1: taken on March. We're after the Break, Wrestling Observer Live
Speaker 1: than than back in the show. Bright nowbur is here
Speaker 1: Wrestling Observer Alive. Mike simper viv also Wrestling Observer dot Com.
Speaker 1: We got a lot of news to get into to
Speaker 1: mention Rampage and SmackDown and row to Night and heck
Speaker 1: Tea tomorrow. Listen, I'm gonna go over the full lineup
Speaker 1: for an x T later because it's not very important,
Speaker 1: but I'm going to ask a question here because I'm
Speaker 1: gonna give everyone a little bit of time to uh,
Speaker 1: to think about it. I don't even know why, but
Speaker 1: they've announced that Tony D'Angelo is facing Zion Quinn. So
Speaker 1: is Zion Quinn supposed to be a baby face? Is
Speaker 1: Tony D'Angelo supposed to be a baby face? Or is
Speaker 1: this heel versus hell? So anyway, you can think about
Speaker 1: that for a while as I talk about the news.
Speaker 1: M l W has responded to w w e's March
Speaker 1: motion to dismiss the former antitrust lawsuit against the Ladder
Speaker 1: wants this dismissed. In a statement filed Friday in U S.
Speaker 1: District Court in the Northern District of California, m l
Speaker 1: W asserted they have quote properly pleaded all of its
Speaker 1: claims for relief in their initial genuine lawsuit when they
Speaker 1: alleged w w E put pressure on third parties to
Speaker 1: abandon relationships with m l W. The suit specifically is
Speaker 1: pointing to a failed deal with Fox owned two B
Speaker 1: t V, where MLW is claiming Stephanie McMahon pressured Fox
Speaker 1: and to be executives to quote deny mL W a
Speaker 1: time slot that would compete head to head with w
Speaker 1: w E s n x T programs, and to quote
Speaker 1: terminate the agreement with MLW in its entirety. MLW said
Speaker 1: that for these antitrust claimant our section to the Sherman Act,
Speaker 1: they only needed to allege it or alleged the w
Speaker 1: W E both possessed monopoly power in the relevant market
Speaker 1: and willfully acquire or maintain that power. M l W
Speaker 1: and questionably properly alleges they wrote both elements. M l
Speaker 1: W has pleaded the irrelevant market broadcast rights for professional
Speaker 1: wrestling programs, and such a single professional sport or form
Speaker 1: of entertainment can as core it's of repeatedly recognized constitute
Speaker 1: a market, whereas alleged here it attracts unique audience, limiting
Speaker 1: the number of economic substitutes. MLW also alleges w W
Speaker 1: es monopoly power because, among other things, it holds eight
Speaker 1: of the relevant market and has reduced the output of
Speaker 1: professional wrestling broadcasts. MLW's pleaded w WS willfully acquired and
Speaker 1: maintained that monopoly power by preventing MLW from distributing its
Speaker 1: programs through to B and vice, by locking up, russing
Speaker 1: talent and key networks with exclusivity agreements, and by other
Speaker 1: conduct to constrain competitors and competition. W w E argues
Speaker 1: MLW's claim is insufficient because w w WE contented does
Speaker 1: not alleged facts quote suggesting that w w WE could
Speaker 1: possibly hold any power over the dozens of not hundreds,
Speaker 1: of networks, cable and streaming services which w w E
Speaker 1: has no commercial relationship with. There's much more on this
Speaker 1: in the uh on the front page of Rustling Observer
Speaker 1: dot com um. There is, of course, the quote from
Speaker 1: Jerry mcdivid and the Observer, if to be breached then
Speaker 1: sued to be As to vice, w w has no
Speaker 1: commercial relationship with them, or, for that matter, any of
Speaker 1: the other dozens of contact distribution entities with whom mL
Speaker 1: W could do a deal with if they had a
Speaker 1: commercially viable product. They put a show on Vice. If
Speaker 1: my memory serves me correctly, after one of the Dark
Speaker 1: Side shows, they lost most of the audience. I think
Speaker 1: I read they got forty viewers. No wonder, Vice did
Speaker 1: no further deal. Sky's brutal. Holy smokes, he's brutal. But anyway, anyway,
Speaker 1: there's a point to all of this. I'll just cut
Speaker 1: to the chase. I don't know who's right and who's wrong.
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on, Okay, but mL W
Speaker 1: absolutely believes that they have a case here and there
Speaker 1: is wrongdoing by w W. E And I bring this
Speaker 1: up because you ain't going all this trouble and and
Speaker 1: demanding a jury trial just to whatever. I mean, there's
Speaker 1: there's a belief here and uh. And I bring it
Speaker 1: up because you remember the whole thing with bots. Everybody
Speaker 1: ridiculed Tony Khan, but the bots. I don't know what's
Speaker 1: going on. I don't know who's I don't know if
Speaker 1: I don't like to say I don't know who's behind
Speaker 1: the box, because it sounds like it's a storyline from
Speaker 1: Sonic the Hedgehog. But the point is, I don't know
Speaker 1: who's behind all of this or whatever. But the fact
Speaker 1: of the matter is this also not something Tony con
Speaker 1: made up, not something he just wanted to tweet for attention.
Speaker 1: Something's going on. Is he gonna get lititious? He might.
Speaker 1: That's why I'm bringing it up here, Like, don't think
Speaker 1: that this is just like some goofy thing that Tony
Speaker 1: came up with. This could be litigated. I guess we'll
Speaker 1: find out at the end of this, uh this investigation here.
Speaker 1: But sometimes I think that fans hear these stories are like, ah,
Speaker 1: it's not always that. Sometimes there's something going on. So anyway,
Speaker 1: that's the story. Well, we guy like Tony Khan. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, he's not just some blowhard indie local promoter.
Speaker 1: I mean, if he's gonna tweet something, there's probably something
Speaker 1: behind it. Whether you like what's behind it or not,
Speaker 1: a different story. But you know, MLW, there's gonna be
Speaker 1: a lot that has to come out about this before
Speaker 1: I think anybody can really make their minds up on it.
Speaker 1: One of the reasons why is because what was this
Speaker 1: spot that they were offered on to be which is
Speaker 1: a streaming service. It's like everything else. There's a portal
Speaker 1: you can go through and watch Sky News or watch
Speaker 1: local affiliates, Fox affiliates and owned affiliates from across the country.
Speaker 1: So I don't know, you know, were they were they
Speaker 1: going to be offered a spot head up really or
Speaker 1: were they just going all those little things like that
Speaker 1: with MLW is claiming and what WW is claiming that
Speaker 1: they didn't do all of it's just gonna have to
Speaker 1: come out and the wash once this thing, I guess
Speaker 1: goes to trial if it actually makes it that far.
Speaker 1: As far as Jerry McDivitt goes, he's a very tough
Speaker 1: opponent to go head up against, and he is, I'm
Speaker 1: sure going to be quite colorful and full of himself
Speaker 1: and what is probably going to be one would assume
Speaker 1: one of his last high profile cases here, at least
Speaker 1: with w W for for at least for the time being.
Speaker 1: Right now, I'm not gonna address this on the air.
Speaker 1: I'm dealing with something in the chat here which one
Speaker 1: YouTube or twitch well actually I think it's a YouTube
Speaker 1: guy on Twitch. He's actually just he's very upset that
Speaker 1: Tony mentioned this three weeks ago. We haven't had an
Speaker 1: update yet. Bro, we can't get toxicology reports back in
Speaker 1: four weeks. So you think they're gonna finish this investigation
Speaker 1: and do all of this in three weeks. The investigation
Speaker 1: is ongoing, Bro, This could be six months, it could
Speaker 1: be a year. I don't know how long it's gonna take.
Speaker 1: But like the st Perry Mason or in an hour,
Speaker 1: we're gonna have an answer to this question. It's gonna
Speaker 1: take a while. Yes, I name dropped Perry Mason sports
Speaker 1: show from uh court show from back in the day.
Speaker 1: Why is it probably played baseball or something? Do you
Speaker 1: ever watched murder? She wrote? Remember that show? I'm starting
Speaker 1: to show. You gotta ask her Like for some reason,
Speaker 1: in that little small town around this woman, everybody kept dying.
Speaker 1: There always seemed to be something happening. Yet she and
Speaker 1: she was involved in all of it, yet never never
Speaker 1: was looked at as a suspect. Well, when you live
Speaker 1: in a small town, there's like one person in charge of,
Speaker 1: you know, doing all this stuff. I think she was.
Speaker 1: Maybe they were doing something. Get out of here, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. John Cena recently offered some praise
Speaker 1: for us in theory. He sent a message on social
Speaker 1: media for the sixteen time World Champions birthday. The message
Speaker 1: included an apology from the twenty four year old This
Speaker 1: is Austin Theory for quote being a better US champ.
Speaker 1: Theory also attached a video of him telling a young
Speaker 1: Sena that he is a young Scena fan that he
Speaker 1: is better than their hero. Sena responded by saying Theory
Speaker 1: shouldn't apologize for having more talent. He should only apologize
Speaker 1: after twenty years if he hasn't put in the work
Speaker 1: required to capitalize it. This John Seene is something else.
Speaker 1: He's a He's a robot, not even saying that like
Speaker 1: an in a negative way. I guess it's kind of
Speaker 1: a negative, but it's not. I'm actually not meaning it
Speaker 1: to be negative. All he's very robotic, like exactly what
Speaker 1: he's going to say in all of these circumstances. And uh,
Speaker 1: he did, however, say because I think it's usually generic
Speaker 1: and right, like usually people can't complain about well this
Speaker 1: was in his programming, because whoever programmed this like is
Speaker 1: a robot. He just has to repeat it. But as
Speaker 1: a human being, he goes what am I saying here?
Speaker 1: He goes, ever understands you have far more talent, strength,
Speaker 1: and gifts than I ever had. Well, first off, it's
Speaker 1: an objective fact. He does not have more strength than you,
Speaker 1: John Cena, You're much stronger than Austin Theory. I could
Speaker 1: say that as a factual statement. Now, talent and gifts, well,
Speaker 1: I don't know about that. I would say that in
Speaker 1: terms of like athleticism and the ability to be limb burr. Yes,
Speaker 1: Austin Theory is is uh more talented than than John Cena.
Speaker 1: So physical gifts, I could argue that maybe Austin Theory
Speaker 1: has more than John Cena, but certainly not strength and talent.
Speaker 1: I mean, what are you talking about, brother? I mean
Speaker 1: maybe someday, but not right now. So anyway, you know
Speaker 1: what this is all about. It's Austin Theories and new
Speaker 1: shows in one and I would not be surprised if
Speaker 1: Vince wanted Seena to come back and put over Austin
Speaker 1: Theory back in a moment. It's a revived the show.
Speaker 1: Brian Elber is here Wrestling Observer Live. Mike simbur viv
Speaker 1: also Wrestling Observer dot com. More news. We'll do some
Speaker 1: reviews here in a while. Rampage bounced around the schedule
Speaker 1: and made due to T and T S coverage of
Speaker 1: the NBA and NHL playoffs, because it depends on who
Speaker 1: is playing when there's no set time past this coming Friday,
Speaker 1: A schedule the regular time slot Base six right now
Speaker 1: schedule for six eastern, three Pacific. I can't wait to
Speaker 1: like post those ratings and a bunch of nerds talk
Speaker 1: about how the show's dying three Pacific, six eastern, which
Speaker 1: I think would be uh one in the afternoon in Hawaii.
Speaker 1: That's gonna say what two mountains, five mountain wherever the
Speaker 1: hell it is too. And also update from the Summer
Speaker 1: Slam tickets. Tickets when I've sealed the public on Friday,
Speaker 1: they went up twenty three thousand tickets in the pre sale,
Speaker 1: they've opened up down thirty five thousand, and about nineteen
Speaker 1: thousand tickets are out, which is paid and comps. So
Speaker 1: that's the update on SummerSlam. Probably will I would think
Speaker 1: get close to selling out thirty five but I suppose
Speaker 1: we shall see well live. UK viewers of Rampage ought
Speaker 1: to be happy. I know there's not many of them,
Speaker 1: but I guess ten pm wouldn't be around that British
Speaker 1: summertime or whatever it is. So at least they're making
Speaker 1: on the Steel. Becky Lynch will be returning to Raw tonight.
Speaker 1: This is the lineup for the show. Everybody, of course,
Speaker 1: this is This is the lineup as of Friday, so
Speaker 1: it's possible nothing I tell you right now actually happens tonight.
Speaker 1: We have Bianca bell Air versus Sonya Deville for the
Speaker 1: Raw Women's title, and I think they did that match
Speaker 1: is like a dark match at the SmackDown tapings on
Speaker 1: Friday night, which obviously Bianco won, so they are practicing
Speaker 1: the match, so I presume that's taken place tonight. And
Speaker 1: by the way, as we'll get to on SmackDown, Sony
Speaker 1: Deville maybe just moving into the full time wrestler gig,
Speaker 1: because they're teasing that there is a potential new assistant
Speaker 1: for Adam Pierce Randy Orn's twenty anniversary celebration, which when
Speaker 1: you think about it, you know, I got a I
Speaker 1: got a six year old now, Paisley six years old old,
Speaker 1: and sometimes I sit there and, oh my god, she's
Speaker 1: six years old already, like at the time, just it flies.
Speaker 1: How many times do we hear that? How how fast.
Speaker 1: These children grow up and it's like a blink of
Speaker 1: an eye. But then I hear that Randy Orton has
Speaker 1: only been in w W for twenty years, and it's
Speaker 1: like Jesus, it seems like it's been about, I mean,
Speaker 1: five lifetimes he's been with that company, So time is weird.
Speaker 1: I believe Albert Einstein once said that it's weird this
Speaker 1: whole time thing. We had the Return to Becky Lynch
Speaker 1: and then and arm wrestling Challenge. Bobby Lashley will be
Speaker 1: facing oh Moss in an arm wrestling challenge, not a match. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a challenge. Well, you have reviewed many an old
Speaker 1: wrestling show that has featured the arm wrestling challenge, whether
Speaker 1: it be Superstar Billy Graham and the Barbarian and UH
Speaker 1: on Saturday Night, Old end u a Action, And they've
Speaker 1: done this in w W E plenty of times. And
Speaker 1: I have a feeling, no matter what happens, it's going
Speaker 1: to end with a table being turned over and somebody
Speaker 1: smashed over the head with it. You know, I think
Speaker 1: they should do anything. They should have Omas and Lashly
Speaker 1: sit down at that table, slam dun contest, put their
Speaker 1: arms up. The referee says go and they they fight,
Speaker 1: and they fight and they fight. One of them wins
Speaker 1: clean then the loser says, damn, you are stronger than
Speaker 1: I am. And they shake hands and they're all part
Speaker 1: of m v P S unit. Can can we get
Speaker 1: that idea? Can we get that? Lucky? No, of course
Speaker 1: not just say you talk about me wanting to have
Speaker 1: hope for some of these things and fantasy booking something
Speaker 1: coherent and happy to happen on these pro rams. There
Speaker 1: would be nothing better than that. The only thing that
Speaker 1: would be better than that is if at some point,
Speaker 1: as they're doing that, the music hits and Shelton Benjamin
Speaker 1: and Cedric Alexander come out there and they all look
Speaker 1: like they're ready to fight, and they don't, and they
Speaker 1: all put on their hurt business shirts and everybody Bobby lash.
Speaker 1: He's got a suit that is only matched by m
Speaker 1: v P. They give almost a suit and they're back
Speaker 1: as a unit. And the only time we see almost
Speaker 1: is when he is there nine and he's putting somebody
Speaker 1: through a table with a choke swam. I think it happened, brother,
Speaker 1: I wish it would alright. So n XT on Tuesday,
Speaker 1: we have got solo Sokoa versus Trick Williams Fellon Henley.
Speaker 1: I have to totally turn away from the microphone, never
Speaker 1: say that name. She will a team with Josh Briggs
Speaker 1: and Brooks Jensen against Electro Lopez, Cruise del Toro and
Speaker 1: Joaquin wild Tikedalliance faces Lash Legend and boy did I
Speaker 1: your Oh yeah, a rumor this weekend? Can you be
Speaker 1: exposed this please? Well, well no, let's wait till tomorrow.
Speaker 1: Let's just put it this way. It's possible. This is
Speaker 1: not the last you've seen of last Legend versus Nikila Lyons.
Speaker 1: Some of you will be in rapture, the others will
Speaker 1: be in in hell. We have got Nathan Fraser making
Speaker 1: his n x T two buin no debut. Every time
Speaker 1: I hear that, I think it's gonna be the debut
Speaker 1: of Ah, what's that guy from Men on a Mission?
Speaker 1: A really big one, Mabel, Mabel. I keep thinking that
Speaker 1: that's Nathan Fraser, but I don't think that wasn't his
Speaker 1: real name, Nelson Fraser. Nelson Fraser. Yes, And then Uhtana
Speaker 1: Chance and Caden Carter face Ulyssa Leone and Valentina Ferraz.
Speaker 1: Have they gone through a promo as to how they've
Speaker 1: changed their names that they didn't do that last week,
Speaker 1: did they? Because if they do one, I need to
Speaker 1: hear Vinny Uh go ahead and re enact that because
Speaker 1: it ought to be something. And then we've got to
Speaker 1: is noted Tony di'angelo the the mobster against Zion Quinn
Speaker 1: the jerk bro. Everybody's a heel on this show. I'm
Speaker 1: I'm I'm just this one. I got a feed everybody,
Speaker 1: who am I supposed to cheer for in this match?
Speaker 1: Of anybody? And if not, why am I watching a
Speaker 1: match with two people that are that are heels for?
Speaker 1: Not like there's not a reason for it. They never
Speaker 1: switched diamond mind Chase, you didn't get like are they
Speaker 1: bad guys? I mean every and they're supposed to I
Speaker 1: don't know. I guess it depends on the scenario. But like,
Speaker 1: this is what Cody had said about a w that
Speaker 1: people had took and ran with about the tropes about
Speaker 1: good guys and bad guys, And this is the greatest
Speaker 1: example of it. Things just happened on this show, but
Speaker 1: tween people for no reason. Look how we got to
Speaker 1: D'Angelo and Uh and Phantasma in the first place. We've
Speaker 1: got Tyson Fury bringing up Drew McIntyre's name during a
Speaker 1: postfight press conference in the UK. They were gonna do
Speaker 1: this match, and then the pandemic put a the old
Speaker 1: kabash on that, and so it looks like I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be surprised at all. Summer Slam wrestlemany next year. Just uh,
Speaker 1: I saw the law the Dylan White. I hadn't seen
Speaker 1: him fighting a while, so I saw the knockout happen.
Speaker 1: But the most interesting part of the fight is the
Speaker 1: fact that somehow Tyson Fury does not get winded upon
Speaker 1: his ring entrance coming to the ring, which is if
Speaker 1: you took Jerry Lawler and Dusty Rhodes and I don't
Speaker 1: know who the longest ring entrances in history have been,
Speaker 1: you know, showing off going down the aisle. This was it.
Speaker 1: I think Princess Diana got down for the wedding in
Speaker 1: a faster time than he actually did make in it
Speaker 1: to the ring with his seventy seven different songs. Out
Speaker 1: of the six title matches Saturday's Impact Rebellion pay per view,
Speaker 1: three titles changed hands. Josh Alexander beat Moose for the
Speaker 1: Impact World title, of course he had won it, and
Speaker 1: then there was the immediate cash in by Moose, so
Speaker 1: he never even got to put the belt on. Then,
Speaker 1: of course he had issues with his visa contract expired.
Speaker 1: I think they always knew that he was almost as
Speaker 1: surely going to resign the way they shot the angles
Speaker 1: and everything like that, So this was their big match
Speaker 1: one on one for the title. Josh Alexander won the belt.
Speaker 1: Back also had Ace Austin winning the X Division title
Speaker 1: in a match with Trey mcguel and Speedball. Mike Bailey
Speaker 1: and Tie of Valkyrie beat Diana Parazzo for the Reina
Speaker 1: da Rena's title, and I'm gonna watch um at least
Speaker 1: I think those matches tomorrow morning before the show with Lance,
Speaker 1: so if you're an Impact fan, we'll review those on
Speaker 1: the land Storm show tomorrow today. On thinking for a
Speaker 1: dealing with Tom Lawler, it is going to be SmackDown
Speaker 1: and uh New Japan strong, and I don't know if
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be able to get through the I think
Speaker 1: we're the semifinals of the Cinderella Tournament. Tom has watched
Speaker 1: everything so we can talk about I'm not trumany will
Speaker 1: get to it, but that's the lineup for the Filthy
Speaker 1: Tom Lawler Show today, because we do what we can.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, There's a lot of wrestling
Speaker 1: out there there. I can't keep up with all of it.
Speaker 1: It's crazy, it is crazy. It's madness. I would go
Speaker 1: as far as to say, not macho madness, just madness.
Speaker 1: We also have a new Japan title change. Shingo did
Speaker 1: in effect beat tai Chi. He is a new provisional
Speaker 1: King of Pro Wrestling two champion. I guess it's provisional
Speaker 1: because next year it'll be three. Yeah. So it was
Speaker 1: a thirty count match. The first wrestler to get a
Speaker 1: combined thirty count in pinfall attempts well declared the winner.
Speaker 1: So I haven't seen it yet, but when you think
Speaker 1: about it, this should mean like Shingo could have hit
Speaker 1: him with a pumping bomber and got a nineteen count,
Speaker 1: but since it wasn't thirty, he would still have to
Speaker 1: get eleven more counts. Is that how worked? Isn't like
Speaker 1: you to get a two count fifteen times? No? No,
Speaker 1: it was a culmination, so if you got like a
Speaker 1: two then that went on the topeboard exactly. But I
Speaker 1: mean could I could he could he pin him for
Speaker 1: third for for twenty two seconds and then the guy
Speaker 1: kicks out of twenty three and it's not over ye
Speaker 1: because it's not a combined thirty. I assumed it was
Speaker 1: always like the deal that we'd always see on TV,
Speaker 1: where like somebody would get hit, the guy would get
Speaker 1: knocked out, the guy, you know, the person is down
Speaker 1: there for a ten count, but the referee doesn't see it.
Speaker 1: He sees a two counts that the guy kicks out,
Speaker 1: you know, and then that would count for twelve. I
Speaker 1: guess in this situation, if he just stood down there,
Speaker 1: he'd keep pinning him, keep going, and then that's it.
Speaker 1: I'm done with that whole kopw thing. More Well, luckily
Speaker 1: for you, it's provisionally Observer Live bag in the show.
Speaker 1: Brian Eber is here Wrestling Observer Live misimp BB also
Speaker 1: Wrestling Observe dot Com. Quick look at these two shows
Speaker 1: and we'll do some feedback. So, uh, Adam Cole, is
Speaker 1: she E excellent match? Distraction finish, but it was very good.
Speaker 1: Walt lasted. It was a total Adam Cole match with
Speaker 1: she E being is she doing all of his spots
Speaker 1: as well? I love this match, very very fun and
Speaker 1: H J. White attacked Rocky Romero distraction low blow by
Speaker 1: Cole hit the boom, got the wind. He is in
Speaker 1: the owen Hart Cup tournament. We had Lance Archer squashing
Speaker 1: Serpentico to lead to the match with Wardlow on Dynamite.
Speaker 1: Dan Housing and Hook are in fact apparently gonna have
Speaker 1: a match. I don't know when. They haven't announced it yet,
Speaker 1: but it's gonna happen. Eddie Kingston Daniel Garcia eleven minutes.
Speaker 1: Both this and the opener were heavily edited because I
Speaker 1: don't know why. I mean, Tony Cohn normally does a
Speaker 1: great job timing out shows, but both of these matches
Speaker 1: went very long, and they chopped him up for TV,
Speaker 1: which makes me wonder about the timing of everything, Like
Speaker 1: why didn't we start this tournament qualifying matches a few
Speaker 1: weeks back so we could you know, if if you
Speaker 1: want the match to go twenty minutes on TV, then
Speaker 1: you know, do one this week and one last week.
Speaker 1: But we had them both here and they both got edited.
Speaker 1: They were both good, but damn it, if I'm gonna
Speaker 1: if you're gonna do the match, I want to see
Speaker 1: all twenty minutes of it right, Well, hindsight being, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't include the main event and this and just what
Speaker 1: went with the two matches, and spend more time building
Speaker 1: up Marina and Jade, and maybe I'm glad they're over.
Speaker 1: I'm glad they're done with it. They they spent they
Speaker 1: I don't know, in a vacuum. How many times have
Speaker 1: you given this speech in the last twenty four hours
Speaker 1: in a vacuum? It was better than expected. They did
Speaker 1: a good job outside the vacuum. Looking at the build up,
Speaker 1: the character of Marina, the totally blowing her off by
Speaker 1: Jade Cargill, I mean it was baffling. I mean she
Speaker 1: comes out, Marina's got an m m A gimmick, She
Speaker 1: does no m m A. She gets mounted, her holds
Speaker 1: get broken out of, she gets humiliated by the baddies.
Speaker 1: She doesn't get a revenge on the batties. Jade Cargill
Speaker 1: totally no cells. The big submission attempt at the end,
Speaker 1: hits her with her move pinzer, Like she was right
Speaker 1: all along. Marina was no threat whatsoever, Like that was
Speaker 1: a payoff to all of this. Like I don't think
Speaker 1: Marina's it a one at all, But I don't know
Speaker 1: what I was expecting, but the payoff to it was
Speaker 1: just like, let's I don't know. I just I look
Speaker 1: at Marie's chaffer and see her outside of a w
Speaker 1: and it's like, she obviously has got a lot of
Speaker 1: work to do in a long way to go as
Speaker 1: far as her pro wrestling goes, as far as getting
Speaker 1: comfortable in there and you know, emoting and all that
Speaker 1: sort of stuff. And I thought they had a little
Speaker 1: rough diamond there where if you bring her in, you
Speaker 1: put her with a group or with something, and you
Speaker 1: bring her along slowly. You can show her off and
Speaker 1: kind of educate your fans as to why she's dangerous,
Speaker 1: bring up the blood sports stuff and the cool stuff
Speaker 1: she's done there, and bring her along. And I thought
Speaker 1: there were plenty of women out there for Jade as
Speaker 1: she continues her winning streak to go through. There's plenty
Speaker 1: of women on the ind scene to bring in for
Speaker 1: one night, to go ahead and do something like this.
Speaker 1: And I maybe I see more in Marina Sheffir than
Speaker 1: than anybody else does, But I didn't think they did
Speaker 1: a good job. I mean, I'm not saying this kills
Speaker 1: her dead. We've seen a lot of people coming too.
Speaker 1: A W dropped their first math j lefal other people
Speaker 1: and then they have, you know, something to sink their
Speaker 1: teeth into afterwards. But I just didn't think they did
Speaker 1: a good job here at all. And then we had SmackDown,
Speaker 1: so we had If you went to SmackDown live, it's
Speaker 1: not really a spoiler, but you've got two contracts signings
Speaker 1: the same live event because they did a contract signing
Speaker 1: on this show and then they do a contract signing
Speaker 1: next week which was taped in the same show. If
Speaker 1: you like contracts signings, if I got a live event
Speaker 1: for you, So anyway, table got tipped over, everyone signed.
Speaker 1: This is leading to a beat the clock challenge next
Speaker 1: week to make people say I quit. This is better
Speaker 1: than usual with round and rousing. She was way better
Speaker 1: than usual in this segment. She was smiley, had some charisma,
Speaker 1: didn't look like she hated life or didn't want to
Speaker 1: be there. She was good. In this segment. We had
Speaker 1: Xavier beating Butch with a small package, and then of
Speaker 1: course Butch freaked out and ran off and they lost
Speaker 1: him again. Whatever that means another Butch losing streak. Is
Speaker 1: this where we're at with us. He's not a losing streak.
Speaker 1: It's just as his gimmick, he loses and gets mad.
Speaker 1: He's only been there three weeks. Shankly has challenged Rick
Speaker 1: is sche for next week. Can't wait to see that one.
Speaker 1: You know, you got a guy like Ricochet, you make
Speaker 1: him champion. And then I got an idea. Let's have
Speaker 1: him faced large immobile guys week after week, not matches
Speaker 1: where he can shine necessarily, but him and Shankly is
Speaker 1: coming up. And by the way, this guy doesn't even
Speaker 1: know what how lumberjack match works, which was pointed out
Speaker 1: by commentary on the show. Gun third killed Teddy Goods.
Speaker 1: It was awesome, It was great. McAfee, Riddle and j
Speaker 1: Ouso finished with another small package, two in a row.
Speaker 1: Is that lazy book? And then we got another small
Speaker 1: package in the tapings, so they share like them small
Speaker 1: packages in this company. This was a good match, very
Speaker 1: very good match. Roman Reins was disgusted and on the
Speaker 1: Filthy Tom Show today, I'm going to book the next
Speaker 1: pay per view, which they did not do. They're doing
Speaker 1: something different and I'm I'm baffled. I believe I have
Speaker 1: a much much better idea. Well is your strong open
Speaker 1: weight champion for one year now going to be a
Speaker 1: part of that somehow the booking of the next pay
Speaker 1: per view now, but he'll be everybody. No, no, I
Speaker 1: do think it was very simple what they could have done,
Speaker 1: but they're not doing it. We have Sasha Banks and
Speaker 1: Naomi are doing a promo and Nattie and Shane to
Speaker 1: come out, so they're gonna be the next challengers. Happy
Speaker 1: Corbin tries to get Madcap Moss back as his buddy again.
Speaker 1: Matt Cap makes a bad joke about him having no hair,
Speaker 1: which led to capt beating Angel. If you watch Madcap
Speaker 1: versus on Berto last week, I think they might have
Speaker 1: replayed it. I'm not entirely sure exact exact same match
Speaker 1: in fact, in fact, do something here real quick, m
Speaker 1: as you do that, Imagine having Riddick Moss under contract
Speaker 1: for so long, never being able to figure out anything
Speaker 1: to do with him, and then when you do, you
Speaker 1: give him this that won't get him over at all.
Speaker 1: Is a baby face? Oh my god? So uh. The
Speaker 1: match with Angel was two minutes and twenty four seconds
Speaker 1: and the match with him Berto was two minutes and
Speaker 1: twenty seven seconds. They were three seconds apart. So when
Speaker 1: I said it was the exact same match, I was
Speaker 1: not kidding. Shave a couple of seconds off both of
Speaker 1: those matches. You'll be able to put him up in
Speaker 1: full on Twitter. It was incredible if you still use
Speaker 1: Twitter today. Then we had Sammy Zane asking for help
Speaker 1: in the lumberjack match. We had a Lacey Evans gimmick,
Speaker 1: which was great. Here's another one. Yeah, and you know what,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'd like to be that guy, be
Speaker 1: that guy. When Cameron Grimes did that awesome video package
Speaker 1: about his father who died and how his final words
Speaker 1: were that he signed with n x TIN he was
Speaker 1: gonna be a champion there and it was three years
Speaker 1: and he let his father down, and damn it, he
Speaker 1: was gonna go into this this uh you WrestleMania weekend
Speaker 1: show and win that title. And what did I say?
Speaker 1: I said, You'd have to be the biggest idiot, the
Speaker 1: biggest moron to screw this up. This is idiot proof.
Speaker 1: It's right there. And you know what, Oh brien, they'll
Speaker 1: screw it up. Oh we have no faith. It's n
Speaker 1: x T two point. You know what they screwed up.
Speaker 1: They did absolutely exactly right so there's a possibility they
Speaker 1: won't screw up Lacey Evans. Is there a possibility they will?
Speaker 1: Of course they're incompetent, But this one's This one's also
Speaker 1: idiot proof, so we'll see. But it was idiot proof
Speaker 1: from day one though. Dude gimmicks and she was that's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, a Southern Bell's Macy Australia. That's her
Speaker 1: real name. Want it's a killer name and was it
Speaker 1: that way? But the whole thing was she comes in
Speaker 1: as Lacey Evans and that's what they gave her, was
Speaker 1: the Southern Bell thing, and it just didn't when you look.
Speaker 1: Her whole story has been out there for a long time.
Speaker 1: We talked about it on here as to why this
Speaker 1: is so baffling. Yeah, and maybe now they can get
Speaker 1: it right. But again, it takes time and it takes development.
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens. They tend to lose interest in people,
Speaker 1: even if it's this great thing, even if it's emotional,
Speaker 1: even if it's really real, They figure out a way
Speaker 1: to either talk themselves out of it or lose interest
Speaker 1: or go a different way. This person here is absolutely right.
Speaker 1: They should reboot the marine and have a Lacey be
Speaker 1: the star. Yes, way better than the miss. Yes take
Speaker 1: the miss seriously in that role? Are you kidding? Who
Speaker 1: was a better marine? He or Ted dvlc Jr. I
Speaker 1: didn't see that one. Drew mctyre Sammy Zane in a
Speaker 1: lumberjack match ended via count out, count out. And you
Speaker 1: know what, everyone here is waiting for me to just
Speaker 1: flip my lip and I'm not gonna. You wanna know
Speaker 1: why because I often see these absolutely stupid finishes and
Speaker 1: and they're done in a way where their assumption is
Speaker 1: that I'm an idiot and I'm just gonna accept it.
Speaker 1: And this and that this was not that at all.
Speaker 1: This was this was on purpose preposterous to the point
Speaker 1: where Adam Pierce came out and said, in all my years,
Speaker 1: I never thought I would see a count out in
Speaker 1: a lumberjack match. It was acknowledged how stupid this was.
Speaker 1: And uh, and it did play into the story and
Speaker 1: it don't get me wrong, it was stupid, okay, but
Speaker 1: it was it was in storyline. Also is stupid not
Speaker 1: like in storyline it made sense, but it's stupid, you know,
Speaker 1: like the you know, the d Q and Helen his
Speaker 1: cell where then they tried to just change everything and
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah. So this is leading to
Speaker 1: a cage match with Sammy Zane and Drew mc attire
Speaker 1: where I don't know what's gonna happen. Actually don't know
Speaker 1: what happened in the spoilers, but it better not be
Speaker 1: escaped the cage or I'm gonna be Then then I
Speaker 1: will be angry if it's escaped. The cage rules after
Speaker 1: three weeks of a guy running away, and so his
Speaker 1: punishment is a match where the rules are you have
Speaker 1: to run away, then I will be angry. Okay, but anyway,
Speaker 1: that's what happened. Do you think we're going to get
Speaker 1: Sonya Deville and Adam Pierson to match down the line?
Speaker 1: They won't even let Adam Pierce wrestle a guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but they're letting Google I get beat up all the time.
Speaker 1: That's his rule. He's gonna get beat up all the time.
Speaker 1: Adam Coles the one that's guy a little bit of credibility.
Speaker 1: It's other poor geek. He's just yeah, that's it. Drew
Speaker 1: Gulak is his new uh what do they call it?
Speaker 1: Intern inn Okay, So yeah, exactly, it's like, okay, so
Speaker 1: you're you're you know, not do anything as a wrestler
Speaker 1: in storyline? Do you want another role? Okay, well you
Speaker 1: can train for it, but we ain't gonna pay you.
Speaker 1: It's a billion dollar company. I mean maybe he's a
Speaker 1: paid in turn, those do exist? Can you or Mike
Speaker 1: do it? Tony D'Angelo impression? No, am I supposed to
Speaker 1: be a good guy or a bad guy. I don't
Speaker 1: know what's my inspiration exactly. People will make fun of that,
Speaker 1: but that's that's you know, I need some sort of
Speaker 1: besides this motivation. Who was part of Italian? How do
Speaker 1: you know? I'm not offended by the characterization of Italians
Speaker 1: and and and and and those types of things. With
Speaker 1: Tony D'Angelo here making him cockery of things? Is that
Speaker 1: what they're doing? I don't know. They're making a mockery
Speaker 1: of a lot. Well yeah, actually they are making a
Speaker 1: mockery of things, aren't they. Oh, this guy says, make
Speaker 1: sure you watch Jonah versus a she E from the
Speaker 1: Impact Show as well. That match was awesome. I'll bet
Speaker 1: it was. They do the greatest thing on Impact, which
Speaker 1: is like every now and then you see something it's
Speaker 1: like how in God's name is no one else ever
Speaker 1: thought of that before. So what they do is the
Speaker 1: cameraman he like takes his camera off his shoulder, he
Speaker 1: puts it on the canvas in the opposite corner of that.
Speaker 1: Jonah is gonna do the big splash, and so you
Speaker 1: see Jonah come off and when he splashes the guy,
Speaker 1: of course, the entire matt bounces up and down and
Speaker 1: so the camera goes which is which by the way,
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, it's stupid when w W E
Speaker 1: purposely like the there's a guy that shakes the camera
Speaker 1: or whatever, but putting putting the camera on the canvas
Speaker 1: and having the whole thing like there's a giant earthquake
Speaker 1: when he lands. That's awesome. Back in a moment, got
Speaker 1: an email here actually is a text message from somebody
Speaker 1: who says that he was at the Rampage show and
Speaker 1: he uh he actually uh filmed the Garcia Eddie match
Speaker 1: on his phone, and so he says, I can say
Speaker 1: that it was sixteen minutes, not twenty two minutes like
Speaker 1: Dave reported. The only thing removed from the match was
Speaker 1: one minute due to the commercial breaks. So he's saying
Speaker 1: that it was very very little editing in the Garcia
Speaker 1: versus Eddie match. So that's from somebody there who says
Speaker 1: that they filmed the match on their phone. So there
Speaker 1: you go. I might be able to get you maybe
Speaker 1: be able to get a lot of that. Maybe it's
Speaker 1: not even for anything other than just the static purposes
Speaker 1: and just to clean things up. I mean, with the
Speaker 1: way things are looking for them going up against the
Speaker 1: NBA and NHL playoffs, I mean, take advantage of the
Speaker 1: fact that you're gonna have things moved around, and there's
Speaker 1: things you can clean up before it goes on. Person
Speaker 1: says lashing Lions are eventually wrestling inside Helen his cell,
Speaker 1: aren't they. That's not what I heard. No, I'd be
Speaker 1: better off with one and done. And he presumes Tony
Speaker 1: d and Quinn are both heels facing each other. Why
Speaker 1: it's gonna end in a no contest or a win
Speaker 1: for Quinn When Tony D'Angelo gets sneak attacked by Legato somehow,
Speaker 1: dang it, I don't have time. I'm gonna try and
Speaker 1: tell this story really quick. Al right, rememb're talking about
Speaker 1: my iPhone and the auto correct. Yeah, I swear to god,
Speaker 1: this is a true story. I was in downtown Bothele
Speaker 1: and I was across the street is like eight o'clock
Speaker 1: at night from this place called the Hopping Hound, which
Speaker 1: is like a bar, and I look over. I swear
Speaker 1: to God, there's these ducks walking down the street towards
Speaker 1: opp and Hound. And I took a picture of my
Speaker 1: son and my wife and I texted, uh, look at
Speaker 1: these ducks. I swear to God. I swear to God. Everybody,
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