WEBVTT - Competition Crimes II: A Slight Return 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:03.400 Ridiculous crime. It's a production of iHeartRadio. 0:00:03.640 --> 0:00:07.000 Elizabeth Dutton, Zaron Brenette. So good to see him, Good 0:00:07.040 --> 0:00:12.280 to see you, Ben. I've been good. I honestly, I've 0:00:12.280 --> 0:00:14.560 been good. No complaints. I got a little muscle tey 0:00:14.600 --> 0:00:16.439 in my back right now, but that's just because I 0:00:16.480 --> 0:00:18.880 was doing dumb stuff putting back into it. I deserved it. 0:00:18.960 --> 0:00:20.800 You can do it. Yeah, My muscles were like, who 0:00:20.800 --> 0:00:21.360 are we kidding? 0:00:22.560 --> 0:00:24.279 You're like, can we can we talk? 0:00:24.520 --> 0:00:27.639 Yeah? We're gonna need to have a coffee clutch. So 0:00:27.720 --> 0:00:30.120 I got a question for you, and then evolved my back. 0:00:30.480 --> 0:00:31.400 Do you know it's ridiculous? 0:00:31.520 --> 0:00:32.840 Involve your neck and your back. 0:00:34.440 --> 0:00:35.440 I cannot answer that. 0:00:35.600 --> 0:00:38.920 We've just slipped its track. That's the g rated than 0:00:39.040 --> 0:00:41.800 you do. I know what's ridiculous. You're asking me. 0:00:42.000 --> 0:00:43.360 I'm looking at you like a professional. 0:00:43.400 --> 0:00:45.600 Oh I know, I know it's ridiculous. 0:00:45.680 --> 0:00:46.240 You want to share it? 0:00:46.400 --> 0:00:49.960 Sit down, all right? So Grillos our favorite pickle brain. 0:00:50.080 --> 0:00:51.360 Yes, shout out Grillos. 0:00:51.400 --> 0:00:52.199 They're a menace. 0:00:52.680 --> 0:00:54.120 Wait one there, menace. 0:00:54.600 --> 0:00:57.640 I bought the biggest tub of grillos at Costco. 0:00:58.120 --> 0:00:58.720 You know the day. 0:00:59.040 --> 0:01:02.960 How fun is this conversation? This is like when someone 0:01:03.240 --> 0:01:05.840 recommends a podcast and I'm like, oh, yeah, listen, and 0:01:05.840 --> 0:01:08.000 then I'm like, minute ten, they're still talking about what 0:01:08.040 --> 0:01:14.120 the person I don't give it. You'll see where I'm 0:01:14.160 --> 0:01:18.320 going with this. This is a point, all right. So, uh, Grillos, Right, 0:01:18.360 --> 0:01:20.800 We've talked about them multiple times and we still don't 0:01:20.840 --> 0:01:23.520 have a sponsorship. I can't believe, which is a little offensive. 0:01:23.600 --> 0:01:25.520 I think I'm shocked. People shock. 0:01:25.600 --> 0:01:27.640 I feel like I've been profiled. But aside from that, 0:01:28.280 --> 0:01:31.760 so anyway, there's apparently this thing spear in a beer 0:01:31.959 --> 0:01:37.479 at dive bars where they'll put a beer. Right. Well, 0:01:38.040 --> 0:01:41.600 Grillos an absolute menace in the mashup category. 0:01:42.040 --> 0:01:42.280 I know. 0:01:42.319 --> 0:01:46.440 I just had to that one teamed up with another 0:01:46.560 --> 0:01:49.520 absolute menace. But that when we haven't seen a lot 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:54.440 of perhaps blue Ribbon a PBR. So they're coming together 0:01:54.640 --> 0:01:59.280 to have a limited edition PBR X Grillos Pickle. 0:01:59.000 --> 0:02:01.120 Beer available on at Midwest Ballparks. 0:02:01.200 --> 0:02:04.080 Well it's it is a limited time. Like I said, 0:02:04.600 --> 0:02:08.520 you can pick it up at Walmart, Albertson's, Safeway, Public's 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:12.160 Food Line, Total Wine and More, Go Puff, Quick Trip, 0:02:12.440 --> 0:02:15.240 and other retailers. That shall remain a mystery. Why not 0:02:15.440 --> 0:02:17.959 that starts on May fourth. Oh, and then it's wall 0:02:18.000 --> 0:02:20.600 supplies last, so I don't know if the supplies lasted. 0:02:20.600 --> 0:02:22.440 I gonna guess is there a Star Wars game in here? 0:02:22.480 --> 0:02:24.400 Like the fourth point of that. 0:02:24.560 --> 0:02:26.440 So many people sent this to us, but the whole 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:29.080 point is the quotes in the press release. 0:02:30.200 --> 0:02:32.520 I say this begrudgingly. This is hit me with it. 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:37.359 Rachel Keaton, Papst Senior brand director quote. I don't think 0:02:37.400 --> 0:02:41.079 the founder of PAPS saw this one coming, but somewhere 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:43.440 along the line someone put a pickle and a beer 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:46.880 and never looked back. We're taking that ritual and making 0:02:46.960 --> 0:02:50.480 it official with Rillows. It's exactly as good as it 0:02:50.600 --> 0:02:54.320 sounds like. I really put some heat on that one. 0:02:54.400 --> 0:02:58.720 And then Mark Luker, Grillo's chief commercial officer, who needs 0:02:58.760 --> 0:03:01.920 to have a time out, quote, We've been working on 0:03:01.960 --> 0:03:05.160 this collab for quite some time and we're pumped to 0:03:05.200 --> 0:03:08.000 see it come to live. Pibr has been a great 0:03:08.040 --> 0:03:11.960 partner in this collaboration. Delivers a crisp, refreshing blend of 0:03:12.000 --> 0:03:17.040 both brands. We're excited for beer and pickle lovers to try. Now. 0:03:17.040 --> 0:03:22.040 I will say this, I joke, I poke fun this 0:03:22.120 --> 0:03:25.120 would make a great beer caned chicken. 0:03:25.160 --> 0:03:28.080 I think, oh yeah, because the salt is and. 0:03:28.960 --> 0:03:31.120 There, and then you put some spices in the can 0:03:31.160 --> 0:03:33.960 like you do, and then you you insert it. 0:03:34.120 --> 0:03:37.600 Yeah, like a probe. It's better than my chicken a 0:03:37.680 --> 0:03:38.680 la coc and peanuts. 0:03:39.200 --> 0:03:41.920 Well there's that too. We won't talk about that incident 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:44.880 and that. 0:03:43.760 --> 0:03:47.000 It is ridiculousous. It is nice work. 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:50.960 They always are, you know something, Zaron, The mashups always are. 0:03:51.040 --> 0:03:52.560 But see, there was a reason I had to talk. 0:03:52.600 --> 0:03:54.840 I had to soften the blow talking about pickle. I 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:58.200 appreciated it and to welcome you into my pickleedje. 0:03:57.720 --> 0:04:01.120 It only brewis it didn't break, Thank god. Well I 0:04:01.160 --> 0:04:03.560 got one for you. If you get a group of 0:04:03.640 --> 0:04:06.560 humans together, sure, and then you have them compete at something, 0:04:06.800 --> 0:04:09.160 something that means like the world to them, right, it 0:04:09.200 --> 0:04:12.520 won't be long before some of them will get caught cheating. 0:04:12.880 --> 0:04:37.280 Oh yeah, This is Ridiculous Crime a podcast about absurd 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:41.360 and outrageous capers, heists and cons. 0:04:41.720 --> 0:04:45.839 It's always ninety nine percent murder free and one hundred 0:04:46.000 --> 0:04:52.279 percent ridiculous. So ridiculous, Elizabeth, you once did an episode 0:04:52.279 --> 0:04:53.360 on competition crimes. 0:04:53.400 --> 0:04:54.440 I did I remember that? 0:04:54.560 --> 0:04:58.360 I am currently surfing. Your coattails are hardcore pop on 0:04:58.560 --> 0:05:01.560 ye Comfy. Well, thinking your episode, I had this theory. 0:05:01.600 --> 0:05:04.280 I bet there were plenty of other competitive crimers out 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:07.400 there pretty much. Yeah, wherever there's competition. Oh bro, And 0:05:07.440 --> 0:05:10.200 wouldn't you know what that incidinct was one thousand percent correct? 0:05:10.680 --> 0:05:14.159 So let's call this competition crimes too. A slight return 0:05:15.600 --> 0:05:19.240 to begin, Elizabeth, I give you this headline, cheating scandal 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:25.040 rocks World Stone Skimming Championships. Oh yeah, that's from a 0:05:25.080 --> 0:05:28.760 twenty twenty five BBC story that investigated what went down 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:31.760 at the annual Stone skipping going to make it American 0:05:32.000 --> 0:05:33.479 Stone Skipping Championship. 0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:35.840 Shit, they should know better than those kind of puns 0:05:35.880 --> 0:05:36.560 in a headline. 0:05:36.600 --> 0:05:39.440 Totally, But to give full credit for this one, had 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:43.720 tip to producer d for sending this one my way. Okay, 0:05:43.720 --> 0:05:47.359 so what's the story in these stones skipping cheaters? Great question, Elizabeth, 0:05:47.400 --> 0:05:48.280 coming out hot? 0:05:48.360 --> 0:05:48.600 Yeah? 0:05:48.720 --> 0:05:50.200 First I have a question for you. 0:05:50.440 --> 0:05:50.880 Sure you do? 0:05:51.040 --> 0:05:52.160 Have you ever skipped a stone? 0:05:52.240 --> 0:05:52.480 Yes? 0:05:52.640 --> 0:05:54.400 I have a follow up. Were you any good? 0:05:55.279 --> 0:05:57.479 You know? I feel like it's something where for me 0:05:57.800 --> 0:06:01.479 I shouldn't say you for me personally? Why you know 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:04.840 you get into the zone and so like sometimes it's 0:06:04.920 --> 0:06:08.520 not a productive activity, but like when you have the 0:06:08.600 --> 0:06:12.520 right stone and you're you're feeling it and that just 0:06:12.600 --> 0:06:16.120 the vibe is right. Oh my gosh, dude, So. 0:06:16.040 --> 0:06:18.080 You can actually get them to skip like a multiple times. 0:06:18.120 --> 0:06:20.000 Yeah, I've been able to do that in my past. 0:06:20.120 --> 0:06:21.600 Nice. Did you and your brother ever compete? 0:06:21.640 --> 0:06:22.840 Yeah, it was always with Travy. 0:06:23.000 --> 0:06:24.599 Okay, was he any good? 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:26.919 Yeah, he's really good. Well, he's just a great He 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:29.000 has a great arm, so he's a you know, he's 0:06:29.000 --> 0:06:30.400 a good arm in baseball. 0:06:30.520 --> 0:06:32.920 I got you. He's a good bowler. 0:06:33.560 --> 0:06:35.360 I don't know. I don't think I've ever seen him bowl. 0:06:35.600 --> 0:06:36.560 We got to take him bowling. 0:06:36.680 --> 0:06:38.640 Yeah. My bowling has always been very private. 0:06:38.680 --> 0:06:42.080 I keep it from my family. I didn't mean to 0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:42.560 get into it. 0:06:42.720 --> 0:06:45.800 I had to do a bowling league ages ago for work, 0:06:46.120 --> 0:06:48.679 and I didn't want to do it, and I didn't 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:50.520 want to wear other people's shoes, so I bought my 0:06:50.560 --> 0:06:54.200 own shoes and then they gave us a ball. And 0:06:54.760 --> 0:06:57.320 I didn't like the people in the other leagues, the 0:06:57.360 --> 0:07:00.920 other offices, and they would ask me what I did, 0:07:00.960 --> 0:07:03.599 and I told them that I wrote erotica for children. 0:07:04.000 --> 0:07:06.880 Oh dear god, I didn't get arrested, apparent, but I 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:07.880 got left alone. 0:07:08.240 --> 0:07:10.400 I guess you would. So you didn't go with your 0:07:10.400 --> 0:07:11.560 normal like taxidermy. 0:07:11.920 --> 0:07:15.559 No. No, even though I was with an office team, 0:07:15.840 --> 0:07:17.400 they you know, these guys weren't swift. 0:07:17.560 --> 0:07:19.760 You know. I also have my own bowling shoes and 0:07:20.360 --> 0:07:22.840 I stole them from a bowling alley and then I 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:28.840 wore them to that bowling alley all the time. They 0:07:28.880 --> 0:07:30.360 can come and get them whenever they want. 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:33.600 But someone wore them before you at something. 0:07:33.680 --> 0:07:35.720 I didn't have your ick factor with the hole someone else. 0:07:35.920 --> 0:07:38.120 I just put my name, or my bowling name, captain, 0:07:38.240 --> 0:07:40.040 and then on one foot, and then on the other 0:07:40.040 --> 0:07:44.320 foot Florabama Captain, Florabama, Florida. It was my bowling name. Anyway, 0:07:44.720 --> 0:07:46.920 The ked to being a good stone skipper, Elizabeth, thank 0:07:46.960 --> 0:07:49.440 you for asking. Is the stone you planned to skip? 0:07:49.480 --> 0:07:52.760 It's not just vibes. Vibes is half of it. But yeah, yeah, 0:07:52.760 --> 0:07:54.800 you need to also if you need to have your 0:07:54.840 --> 0:07:57.720 technique dialed in right, that's obviously important as well. You 0:07:57.760 --> 0:07:59.640 get to get your arm at the right angle, and 0:07:59.680 --> 0:08:01.520 you need, like trap to have a good arm and 0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:03.760 of course, you know, once again you need to impart 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:06.760 some spin. But none of that will matter if you 0:08:06.760 --> 0:08:10.280 don't first select a good skipping stone. Elizabeth, Yeah, do 0:08:10.280 --> 0:08:11.920 you know how to select a good skipping stone? 0:08:12.120 --> 0:08:12.520 Flat? 0:08:13.640 --> 0:08:14.080 Smooth? 0:08:14.440 --> 0:08:15.960 The water's got to be smooth too. 0:08:16.080 --> 0:08:16.640 That helps you. 0:08:16.640 --> 0:08:18.160 You know, you're not going to go down to the Pacific. 0:08:19.560 --> 0:08:21.360 No, no, not skipping nothing on the Pacific. 0:08:23.160 --> 0:08:24.000 Smooth and flat. 0:08:24.120 --> 0:08:25.160 Yeah, you're right, all. 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:27.440 Like, it can't be too big, but also not too 0:08:27.480 --> 0:08:29.200 small because you need some He's. 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:30.840 Got to be right there in that like sweet spot. 0:08:31.160 --> 0:08:33.320 So basically you want a stone to be both flat 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:37.120 and round and the you know, proportionally good sizes to itself. 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:40.480 It's not too big too small basically, you know, flatten around. 0:08:40.520 --> 0:08:42.360 You want to like an overdone cookie that has like 0:08:42.400 --> 0:08:46.080 too much butter in the batter. Oh yeah, I guess 0:08:46.120 --> 0:08:48.760 what cookies. It's dough, not batter, but you know, yeah in. 0:08:48.760 --> 0:08:51.079 The dough, you know whatever. We all know what you're 0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:53.480 talking about. 0:08:53.720 --> 0:08:57.040 Yeah, anyway, what's up with the annual Stone Skipping Championship 0:08:57.400 --> 0:08:59.959 is well, it takes place on an island that's located 0:09:00.160 --> 0:09:03.280 near your adopted second home of Scotland. The island is 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:06.240 called Easdale, and you ever heard of it? I had not, No. 0:09:06.440 --> 0:09:10.000 Easdale's apparently an island in the Inner Hebrides. Oh okay, 0:09:10.080 --> 0:09:14.040 it's the smallest of the permanently inhabited islands. Population of 0:09:14.080 --> 0:09:15.520 the island sixty people. 0:09:16.040 --> 0:09:17.520 That's probably why I haven't heard of it. 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:20.199 Yeah, which is why. Also, the annual Stone Skipping Championship 0:09:20.240 --> 0:09:23.040 is a big deal there. They're like that much going 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:26.520 on and lots of folks traveled from around the world 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:28.920 to compete there. In twenty twenty five, there were twenty 0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:32.720 two hundred people who traveled from twenty seven countries just 0:09:32.760 --> 0:09:35.880 to attend the Stone Skipping Championship. Oh hell yeah. 0:09:36.080 --> 0:09:37.880 Did they stay like you? Probably wouldn't know if they 0:09:37.920 --> 0:09:39.800 stay on other islands to the camp. 0:09:40.080 --> 0:09:42.560 I'm assuming they're camping. I do not know. I wish 0:09:42.559 --> 0:09:46.000 I had good answers for lamping. Most likely at least 0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:47.960 half of them these are professional athletes, Elizabeth. 0:09:48.640 --> 0:09:50.080 They just dig a hole and sleep in it. 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:52.200 The event started way back in nineteen eighty three. He 0:09:52.240 --> 0:09:54.720 was created by a resident of Eastdale Island, a man 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:58.600 named Albert Baker, and in a very seemingly suitable Scottish way, 0:09:58.640 --> 0:10:01.760 The idea to hold a own skipping competition came about 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:03.920 in a local pub. Of course, right, they're like, you know, 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:05.240 it's basically a complicated bar. 0:10:05.160 --> 0:10:07.240 Bess where you get the best ideas completely. 0:10:07.520 --> 0:10:10.040 Now, the first attempt saw some success, but much like 0:10:10.080 --> 0:10:12.520 a skipping stone, it ran out of momentum and sank 0:10:12.520 --> 0:10:16.200 into the water. Thank you No. In nineteen ninety seven, 0:10:16.240 --> 0:10:19.640 the Stone Skipping Championship was back on baby. I guess 0:10:19.679 --> 0:10:21.600 the locals they had missed out on it, or perhaps 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:24.600 they recognized the economic boost that the increased tourism provided. 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:26.880 I don't know either way. A ninety seven local community 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:30.120 group called the Alien Iceed Deal brought back the Stone 0:10:30.120 --> 0:10:33.400 Skipping champion Ship, and now it's run as a benefit 0:10:33.440 --> 0:10:35.079 for charity. I but you would like that. 0:10:35.280 --> 0:10:37.240 I do like that. Well, I mean, it depends on 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:37.760 the charity. 0:10:38.120 --> 0:10:40.120 They're given to local charity groups. I don't know much 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:42.880 about all of that now. The competition occurs at a 0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:46.000 former rock quarry where locals used to cut out slabs 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:48.400 of slate from the land. Oh yeah, it was like 0:10:48.520 --> 0:10:50.600 right up by the sea, because in eighteen eighty one 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:53.080 the quarry was flooded by a tidal wave. And so 0:10:53.200 --> 0:10:56.800 much for that quarry. So now it sits abandoned, filled 0:10:56.800 --> 0:10:59.840 with seawater or whatever I guess, you know, brackish water. 0:10:59.880 --> 0:11:03.680 And it's free though of any professional rock harvesting operation. 0:11:03.880 --> 0:11:07.200 So enter the stone skippers. So the rules for the 0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:10.840 competition are straightforward, Elizabeth. A person must collect their stones 0:11:10.920 --> 0:11:13.840 from what's naturally occurring on the island. You can't bring 0:11:13.920 --> 0:11:17.520 in any stones from somewhere else. No Appellationian rocks are allowed. 0:11:18.080 --> 0:11:20.760 So the expectation is that the stones are slate, since 0:11:20.800 --> 0:11:22.920 that's the big you know, rock on the island. And 0:11:22.960 --> 0:11:25.160 then the competitors they kick about the island looking for 0:11:25.200 --> 0:11:27.960 the perfect stones to skip. The stones must be no 0:11:28.040 --> 0:11:31.000 bigger than three inches in diameter, and that's just to 0:11:31.200 --> 0:11:34.199 ensure that the stones are the appropriate size. The judges. 0:11:34.240 --> 0:11:36.880 They have this measuring device they call the ring of truth. 0:11:37.640 --> 0:11:38.480 The ring of truth. 0:11:38.559 --> 0:11:41.400 Yeah, it's a ring that's roughly three inches in diameter. 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:44.120 It ensures the skipping stones are no bigger than the 0:11:44.160 --> 0:11:47.160 allowed size. So once the rocks are selected, each stone 0:11:47.160 --> 0:11:50.560 skipper gets to cast three tosses, so three rocks across 0:11:50.600 --> 0:11:54.040 this two hundred and seven foot long quarry. The skipping 0:11:54.040 --> 0:11:57.120 stones must bounce off the surface, obviously at least twice 0:11:57.200 --> 0:11:59.760 to be counted as an official skip, and then they 0:11:59.760 --> 0:12:03.400 also must travel within this like designated skipping lane. Well. 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:05.840 One of the main organizers of the competition is this 0:12:05.920 --> 0:12:09.640 fellow named doctor Kyle Matthews. He also announces all of 0:12:09.679 --> 0:12:12.480 the stone skips. He's like the big announcer. He provides 0:12:12.640 --> 0:12:16.560 knowledgeable commentary on the stone skipping action. Doctor Matthews is 0:12:16.559 --> 0:12:20.560 also known as the toss Master. Oh yeah, so this 0:12:20.800 --> 0:12:23.600 past year, the annual Stone Skipping Championship was held on 0:12:23.640 --> 0:12:28.160 September sixth, So this is a almost autumnal sport. Okay, now, Elizabeth, 0:12:28.200 --> 0:12:31.840 two thousand stone skipping hopefuls registered online to claim one 0:12:31.880 --> 0:12:34.080 of the four hundred available spots. 0:12:34.720 --> 0:12:38.080 Oh wow, so it's not just two thousand people lining. 0:12:37.840 --> 0:12:39.800 Up, No, only four hundred again, and you got to 0:12:39.800 --> 0:12:43.360 compete the event registration sold out in three minutes, no way. 0:12:43.800 --> 0:12:46.880 And of those lucky four hundred competitors, they were all 0:12:46.960 --> 0:12:49.880 geeked to go toss their twelve hundred stones across the water, 0:12:50.040 --> 0:12:52.880 eager to be crowned the champion of that year. But Elizabeth, 0:12:52.880 --> 0:12:56.160 that could be only one stone skipping champ or really 0:12:56.160 --> 0:12:58.040 there could be two, one from the women's division, one 0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:03.240 from the men's division. So this past year, doctor Matthews 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:05.240 admitted that after the event went down that there were 0:13:05.320 --> 0:13:11.360 quote rumors and murmurings of some nefarious deeds. Doctor Matthews 0:13:11.400 --> 0:13:15.600 told the BBC radio show Good Morning Scotland that quote, 0:13:15.960 --> 0:13:17.559 there was a little bit of Stone. 0:13:17.280 --> 0:13:21.640 Doctoring Stone doctor, the Stone doctors. It's like a spin 0:13:21.720 --> 0:13:22.440 doctor's cover. 0:13:22.679 --> 0:13:23.680 And they blamed Missula. 0:13:23.800 --> 0:13:24.000 Yeah. 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:25.880 Now, like I was reading this, I'm like, are you 0:13:26.000 --> 0:13:28.520 kidding me? Stone Skippers, we can't even count on you 0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:32.680 to have a love of the game completely. So it 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:35.840 seems that according to doctor Matthews quote, they had shaped 0:13:35.880 --> 0:13:39.040 it so that was perfectly circular and fitted our three 0:13:39.040 --> 0:13:42.000 inch measurer aka the Ring of Truth right now. Doctor 0:13:42.000 --> 0:13:44.520 Matthews didn't blame the Ring of Truth for any discrepancy 0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:47.560 in the stones. He said, and I quote, as it's 0:13:47.600 --> 0:13:49.600 a piece of metal, I don't think we can blame 0:13:49.640 --> 0:13:53.560 it too much. The problem was we didn't just notice 0:13:53.600 --> 0:13:57.240 at the time that they were suspiciously circular fun crowd. 0:13:57.400 --> 0:14:01.080 So he blamed himself. In an interview with no less 0:14:01.080 --> 0:14:04.280 than The New York Times, doctor Matthews said that as 0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:08.800 the announcer and the toss master, he'd personally witnessed every 0:14:08.840 --> 0:14:10.839 single one of the twelve hundred tosses. But as he 0:14:10.920 --> 0:14:14.320 told The Times, quote, unfortunately these couples slipped through my 0:14:14.559 --> 0:14:18.520 hawk like vision. Oh okay, dude, he's a little self important. 0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:21.760 So once the whispers and murmurs emerged, doctor Matthews and 0:14:21.800 --> 0:14:26.440 other organizers they confronted the bubbling scandal. He contacted the 0:14:26.480 --> 0:14:29.840 competitors who had many believed had been cheated, and thankfully 0:14:29.960 --> 0:14:32.520 those entrants did not argue. They didn't throw a fit 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:35.840 or threatened to sue. Instead, they confessed that they had 0:14:35.960 --> 0:14:41.080 indeed cheated. Gracefully, they agreed to be retroactively disqualified from 0:14:41.120 --> 0:14:42.600 the Stone Skipping Championship. 0:14:42.720 --> 0:14:43.360 Oh wow. 0:14:43.440 --> 0:14:46.480 Yeah. So when the dust claritor, rather the ripples fell still, 0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:51.640 Lucy Wood won her sixth Stone Skipping Championship. Huh Yeah. 0:14:51.680 --> 0:14:53.440 She was glad to see the cheaters not fight or 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:56.160 make a scene instead just say yeah, mate, it was me. 0:14:56.800 --> 0:14:59.000 So they took their punishment, you know, kept it moving. 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:01.360 As she told The New York Time, you wouldn't get 0:15:01.360 --> 0:15:04.120 that in a lot of sports. That's very true, right, 0:15:04.200 --> 0:15:06.360 side note, My girl Lucy Wood is quite the stone 0:15:06.360 --> 0:15:10.080 skipper Elizabeth. She's the current Guinness World Record holder for 0:15:10.240 --> 0:15:13.920 most wins in the women's division of the Stone Skipping Championship. 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:14.280 Huh. 0:15:14.720 --> 0:15:17.120 Her story is fun. She first came to Eastdale Island 0:15:17.120 --> 0:15:19.920 back in twenty eleven. She was just a tourist visiting 0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:21.680 the island with her husband. They were there on a 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:24.400 vak and when she's there, she's like, you know, she 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:27.080 sees that there's this stone skipping competition going down while 0:15:27.120 --> 0:15:29.520 they're there, and she's like, what if I enter and 0:15:29.760 --> 0:15:33.920 get this? She meddled first time medals. She one third place. 0:15:34.080 --> 0:15:34.960 Where is she from? 0:15:35.800 --> 0:15:37.880 I think from somewhere in Britain, I don't know. 0:15:38.160 --> 0:15:40.480 So she just like they go outside, she's just training 0:15:40.680 --> 0:15:41.240 all the time. 0:15:41.520 --> 0:15:43.520 Yeah, he's thrown rocks against the side of the house. 0:15:43.600 --> 0:15:44.680 Does she have like a ten year. 0:15:44.600 --> 0:15:48.800 Old synthetic ones that she throws across upon for training purpose. 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:52.480 Like fungo stones? Yes, And she told it. I got 0:15:52.480 --> 0:15:55.240 a bit hooked, and then like you know, she's totally 0:15:55.280 --> 0:15:58.040 happy to admit that her rare stone skipping skill is 0:15:58.120 --> 0:16:01.360 quote a really useless life skill, but I seem to 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:01.960 have it. 0:16:01.920 --> 0:16:03.720 I wonder she'd be good at disc golf. 0:16:04.040 --> 0:16:06.600 Oh yeah, probably she with a forward toss. Yeah. Now, 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:09.080 if you're wondering what her secret to stone skipping is, 0:16:09.160 --> 0:16:11.720 Lucy Wood says, it's all about how you use your fingers, 0:16:12.240 --> 0:16:14.400 just like in basketball or baseball. You want to get 0:16:14.440 --> 0:16:17.560 a good finger roll going. And ors Lucy would put 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:21.200 it quote, it's the spinning of the stone that stabilizes it. 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:24.400 It's not necessarily the rist action. So I was wrong there. 0:16:24.400 --> 0:16:26.120 I always thought you had to have good risk action. 0:16:26.760 --> 0:16:28.800 Dating back to when she first started skipping stones in 0:16:28.800 --> 0:16:31.800 twenty eleven, Lucy Wood says it, these days it's become 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:35.640 really competitive. It's getting harder and harder. So yeah, I know. 0:16:35.680 --> 0:16:38.640 In the twenty twenty five Men's Championship stone skipper was 0:16:38.680 --> 0:16:42.480 an American named John Jennings. No h, and that was 0:16:42.520 --> 0:16:45.880 the first time an American won it all. So yeah, 0:16:46.080 --> 0:16:49.280 now is the new world's raining stone skipping champ. Jennings 0:16:49.320 --> 0:16:51.880 was a little worried about how this scandal made the 0:16:51.920 --> 0:16:55.320 sport of competitive stone skipping look to the fans and 0:16:55.360 --> 0:16:57.680 to the people who may have never heard of the sport. 0:16:57.720 --> 0:17:01.280 And this is introduction. I mean, he didn't want the 0:17:01.480 --> 0:17:05.000 cheating to besmirch the reputation of this Nietzsche sport. He right, 0:17:05.720 --> 0:17:07.480 and then it was going down. Jennings had spotted some 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:09.840 of the cheaters trying to slip in their cheater stones, 0:17:09.880 --> 0:17:12.680 and Jennings told The Times, I did see some stones 0:17:12.720 --> 0:17:15.840 that looked a little too perfect. Oh so he knows 0:17:15.880 --> 0:17:18.640 what he's talking about, because not only does he competitively 0:17:18.640 --> 0:17:21.840 skip stones, Elizabeth, he also runs his own stone skipping 0:17:21.840 --> 0:17:24.639 competition back in Kentucky, where he lives. 0:17:24.840 --> 0:17:27.200 I thought maybe he was Minnesota on the lakes. 0:17:27.280 --> 0:17:27.520 Yeah. 0:17:27.600 --> 0:17:30.800 But you know something, John Jennings, if you see something, 0:17:30.880 --> 0:17:33.640 say something right. Come on. What I was saying, he's 0:17:33.640 --> 0:17:34.560 a part of the problem. 0:17:34.840 --> 0:17:37.679 Was the good old boy put it quote. Some people 0:17:37.760 --> 0:17:40.440 see glory as a different thing. I see it as 0:17:40.520 --> 0:17:44.320 following the rules, doing what I'm supposed to, and winning 0:17:44.440 --> 0:17:50.600 in true fashion. Some people see Gloria's winning at all cost, Elizabeth. 0:17:51.440 --> 0:17:54.800 I said, these are precious folks. If you like me, 0:17:54.920 --> 0:17:57.600 you're wondering, I'll just tell you. John Jennings skipped his 0:17:57.680 --> 0:18:00.359 three stones a total of one hundred and seventy seven 0:18:00.440 --> 0:18:03.479 meters or roughly five hundred and eighty one feet across 0:18:03.520 --> 0:18:05.840 the quarry because you add up all three. 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:08.840 Stones distance, not number of skips that you're looking for. 0:18:08.840 --> 0:18:11.440 Exactly you want distance, and then you add up your 0:18:11.640 --> 0:18:14.920 your three stone tosses into whatever your cumulative is. That's 0:18:14.960 --> 0:18:19.560 your amount, right, and eighty one feet excuse me, that's 0:18:19.560 --> 0:18:21.439 pretty damn far it is. That was good enough to 0:18:21.440 --> 0:18:24.200 win the male division of the championship. Now, let's hope 0:18:24.200 --> 0:18:26.760 next year that no cheats show up with suspiciously round, 0:18:26.960 --> 0:18:29.680 doctored up stones, because why ruin the. 0:18:29.600 --> 0:18:31.920 Fund grinding down the edge. 0:18:32.119 --> 0:18:34.240 I think they're giving them kind of like a sharper. 0:18:35.560 --> 0:18:37.800 Maybe maybe they had a top and a bottom, you know, 0:18:37.960 --> 0:18:39.120 like around. 0:18:38.680 --> 0:18:41.320 Your bottom, And I'd love to see their work like a. 0:18:41.240 --> 0:18:44.040 Wing or something. You know, you have a differential. I 0:18:44.040 --> 0:18:48.640 don't know. So anyway, Raining Women's champ Lucy Wood now 0:18:48.880 --> 0:18:51.200 can look forward to defending her crown in the sport 0:18:51.240 --> 0:18:53.560 that she describes as quote super quirky. 0:18:54.240 --> 0:18:57.360 It is super quirky. 0:18:57.880 --> 0:18:59.919 I wanted that one for you because I know how 0:19:00.119 --> 0:19:03.600 much you love. Okay, now that we've warmed it up, 0:19:03.640 --> 0:19:05.440 let's take a little break and after these messages, we'll 0:19:05.440 --> 0:19:08.600 be back with more cheaters and fraudsters on the competitive circuits, 0:19:29.160 --> 0:19:30.480 and we're back, Elizabeth. 0:19:30.560 --> 0:19:30.760 Hello. 0:19:31.600 --> 0:19:34.399 Now, that first one obviously didn't involve any actual crime. 0:19:35.160 --> 0:19:37.399 Oh yeah, no, the law never came into it. 0:19:37.440 --> 0:19:39.320 All right, I'll listen, be honest, I'm sure that they 0:19:39.320 --> 0:19:44.040 could have found some Scottish detectives in exactly Well, this. 0:19:44.040 --> 0:19:46.560 Is not true for this next one, because Johnny Law 0:19:46.680 --> 0:19:49.280 jumps up into the scene before we dive into this 0:19:49.280 --> 0:19:51.800 next tale of cheating, conning, and criming. I have another 0:19:51.880 --> 0:19:55.520 question for you, Elizabeth. If I say to you faral Hogs, 0:19:55.760 --> 0:19:56.560 what do you think. 0:19:56.400 --> 0:19:59.479 Of I think of that? Was it a tweet? 0:19:59.600 --> 0:19:59.760 Right? 0:20:01.040 --> 0:20:01.879 Do you remember? 0:20:04.920 --> 0:20:05.160 Yeah? 0:20:05.280 --> 0:20:07.280 Well did you probably recall? It all kicked off back 0:20:07.320 --> 0:20:08.720 in August of twenty nineteen. 0:20:09.000 --> 0:20:10.080 Oh we were so young. 0:20:10.520 --> 0:20:15.160 Musician Jason Isabel isbel Ispel. He posted about the guns 0:20:15.280 --> 0:20:18.480 that get labeled as assault weapons. Yeah, and he there 0:20:18.520 --> 0:20:21.320 was a Twitter debate about gun control and Isbel posted quote, 0:20:21.520 --> 0:20:24.840 if you're on here arguing the definition of assault weapon today, 0:20:24.880 --> 0:20:26.600 you are part of the problem. You know what an 0:20:26.640 --> 0:20:30.160 assault weapon is, and you know you don't need one. Clearly, 0:20:30.200 --> 0:20:32.760 he's against them now, and you know what that means. 0:20:32.880 --> 0:20:35.480 Some gun lovers are going to post back about how 0:20:35.560 --> 0:20:38.200 much they do need their assault rifles and how wrong 0:20:38.280 --> 0:20:41.080 he is, which is exactly what happened. So this self 0:20:41.119 --> 0:20:45.240 described libertarian, a man named William McNabb no relationship to 0:20:45.520 --> 0:20:49.840 uh Donovan, Thank you good, look at you? So he 0:20:49.880 --> 0:20:52.080 posted in response to Ispel that he had a real 0:20:52.160 --> 0:20:55.280 question about owning assault weapons. He wasn't challenging him, He 0:20:55.359 --> 0:20:56.880 was just like, what about this, sir? 0:20:57.240 --> 0:20:58.560 What about this? You know? Yeah? 0:20:58.600 --> 0:21:02.680 And I quote the legit question for rural Americans? How 0:21:02.720 --> 0:21:05.240 do I kill the thirty to fifty feral hogs that 0:21:05.320 --> 0:21:07.680 run into my yard within three to five minutes while 0:21:07.720 --> 0:21:10.399 my small kids play? That was McNabb's question. 0:21:10.720 --> 0:21:15.000 The ranges fifty five minutes. 0:21:15.160 --> 0:21:19.920 Yeah. So this led to a deluge of responses because 0:21:19.960 --> 0:21:21.959 tons of folks found the whole premise of thirty to 0:21:21.960 --> 0:21:25.760 fifty faral hogs roaming America in hog gangs looking to 0:21:25.760 --> 0:21:29.359 start trouble to be hilarious. So one Twitter user posted 0:21:29.359 --> 0:21:33.359 a response to McNabb quote, seriously, please post video of this. 0:21:33.600 --> 0:21:36.320 I legitimately have got to see what thirty to fifties 0:21:36.320 --> 0:21:39.280 stampeding farall hogs looks like you and your neighbors just 0:21:39.359 --> 0:21:43.280 must live in constant terror entrenched inside your homes. And 0:21:43.320 --> 0:21:45.439 then another line of McNabb. You know he seemed genuine. 0:21:45.480 --> 0:21:48.040 He responded to that, and he wrote, and I quote 0:21:48.400 --> 0:21:51.760 in subsequent replies, I answer this, It's happened four times. 0:21:51.880 --> 0:21:54.720 I do not own an assault rifle, never said I did. 0:21:55.040 --> 0:21:57.919 Some of my neighbors do, and from personal experience, I 0:21:57.960 --> 0:22:00.439 can see how it helped them. I simply post a 0:22:00.440 --> 0:22:04.680 real question from my own experiences, So which begs the 0:22:04.760 --> 0:22:08.240 question mowing them down? Yeah? 0:22:08.280 --> 0:22:10.960 Can you imagine do they just keep regenerating a. 0:22:10.960 --> 0:22:13.760 Video game just respawning hogs? So imagine you're in the 0:22:13.760 --> 0:22:16.080 backyard of like I don't know, your Arkansas home, and 0:22:16.119 --> 0:22:18.480 your small children are playing on a swing set or whatever, 0:22:18.520 --> 0:22:20.439 and then all of a sudden, thirty to fifty feral 0:22:20.520 --> 0:22:23.520 hogs just rampage into your yard. They started attacking you 0:22:23.560 --> 0:22:26.040 and your family like I know, like the sweaty outlaw 0:22:26.080 --> 0:22:28.639 bikers hopped up on like you know, trailer meth and 0:22:28.720 --> 0:22:33.960 brown liquor. Yeah. One Twitter user said and posted quote, 0:22:34.400 --> 0:22:37.000 I hate when thirty to fifty faral hogs running into 0:22:37.040 --> 0:22:39.320 my yard is my kids play forcing me to duel 0:22:39.359 --> 0:22:44.000 wheeled ar fifteens. As I mowed them down, another one 0:22:44.080 --> 0:22:46.879 jumped in and responded to that tweet and said, exactly 0:22:47.240 --> 0:22:50.679 last week, my sons Brantford and Highland, were out drinking 0:22:50.720 --> 0:22:53.280 bush heavy on the back deck. They're thirteen and eleven 0:22:53.440 --> 0:22:56.760 when a pack of seventy six Farll hogs came running up. 0:22:56.840 --> 0:22:58.760 I only had a bolt action rifle and by the 0:22:58.800 --> 0:23:02.000 time I took out number seven six, Branford was already gone. 0:23:02.240 --> 0:23:06.120 I miss him dearly. I love the name Branford so perfect, 0:23:06.320 --> 0:23:10.040 and his sister Brayley and their new baby, Chadsworth. But 0:23:10.080 --> 0:23:11.840 to be fair, well, folks got their jokes off. The 0:23:11.840 --> 0:23:14.040 truth of the matter bubbled up to the surface, Elizabeth. 0:23:14.080 --> 0:23:17.760 As you likely know, Farrell hogs are no joke, are concern. 0:23:18.119 --> 0:23:21.400 They will like I've seen pictures that people have posted 0:23:21.440 --> 0:23:23.679 of after they come running through the yards. 0:23:23.680 --> 0:23:25.520 Oh yeah, they just tear it up. 0:23:25.640 --> 0:23:28.720 And they're yeah like digging big deep trenches and stuff 0:23:28.760 --> 0:23:29.160 as well. 0:23:29.280 --> 0:23:31.600 They can knock a fence down. And the javelinas the 0:23:31.640 --> 0:23:34.040 boors like you watch them, they run fast as a car. 0:23:34.160 --> 0:23:36.720 They're insane. So if you got thirty or fifty of these, 0:23:36.800 --> 0:23:39.439 you're gonna got a serious problem in firepower. So that 0:23:39.560 --> 0:23:42.240 was McNabb's original point, Elizabeth, you. 0:23:42.119 --> 0:23:46.240 Can show how it serves the thing that you just like, Craig, Yeah. 0:23:46.080 --> 0:23:48.960 Like artillery. Oh no, yeah, he used like a gatling gun. 0:23:49.040 --> 0:23:50.280 You just turn that. 0:23:50.640 --> 0:23:50.920 Sure. 0:23:51.240 --> 0:23:53.399 So in Texas they estimated, by the way, in twenty 0:23:53.440 --> 0:23:57.120 seventeen that faral hogs are responsible for one hundred million 0:23:57.160 --> 0:23:58.600 dollars in property damage. 0:23:58.760 --> 0:24:01.640 No, like what every day for the. 0:24:01.640 --> 0:24:05.400 Year, for the calendar year that you didn't specify. I'm sorry. Now. 0:24:05.600 --> 0:24:08.280 Two days after the viral thirty to fifty faral hogs 0:24:08.320 --> 0:24:11.680 debate popped off on Twitter, Dale Nolty of the USDA's 0:24:11.880 --> 0:24:15.720 National Feral Swine Program decided he'd weigh in to let 0:24:15.760 --> 0:24:19.240 the public know roving herds of faral hogs are threatening 0:24:19.280 --> 0:24:22.280 to cross the US Canada border and if they invaded 0:24:22.280 --> 0:24:24.359 the US, it would be quote a disaster. 0:24:24.960 --> 0:24:29.880 We already have them, I know. Don't you better look 0:24:29.880 --> 0:24:30.600 out for ours? 0:24:30.800 --> 0:24:37.800 Yeah, Canadian bacon faral hogs. No, no borders, No, it's 0:24:38.000 --> 0:24:41.200 just color on a map to them. So obviously, when 0:24:41.400 --> 0:24:44.280 this all reignited the meme cycle and Twitter users jumped 0:24:44.280 --> 0:24:46.439 in and McNabb tried to warn us they're like he 0:24:46.680 --> 0:24:50.120 was telling us anyway, Old Dale Noltia, as I said, 0:24:50.200 --> 0:24:52.720 tried to warn the public as program manager for the 0:24:52.800 --> 0:24:57.119 USDA's National Feral Swine Damage Management Program, that's his full title. 0:24:57.280 --> 0:24:58.720 I wonder if he's been defunded. 0:24:59.000 --> 0:25:02.800 I'm back only reported that quote. We initially believe feral 0:25:02.840 --> 0:25:05.720 swine caused one point five billion in damage a year 0:25:05.720 --> 0:25:07.400 in the US, but now we think that the number 0:25:07.400 --> 0:25:10.159 is closer to two point five billion, not accounting for 0:25:10.200 --> 0:25:13.320 the environmental damage that is hard to assign a dollar value. 0:25:13.480 --> 0:25:16.080 I think that's lost children. I've worked with a lot 0:25:16.119 --> 0:25:18.399 of different species, and they normally cause damage in a 0:25:18.400 --> 0:25:22.000 certain area, but not feral swine. They caused damage across 0:25:22.040 --> 0:25:26.880 every sector. Apparently they're just like ruining bus traffic. 0:25:27.000 --> 0:25:28.320 I can airline. 0:25:29.119 --> 0:25:31.040 I don't know. Anyway. I say all this to set 0:25:31.040 --> 0:25:33.719 the table for our next group of competition cheaters, in 0:25:33.760 --> 0:25:37.440 this case, crimers, the folks who mitigate the feral hog 0:25:37.480 --> 0:25:43.560 problem as sport wild hog hunters. Elizabeth. Now, there is 0:25:43.640 --> 0:25:46.000 a group of wild hog hunters. They dubbed themselves the 0:25:46.240 --> 0:25:49.679 piney wood pimps. I do not know what pineywood pimps 0:25:49.680 --> 0:25:50.919 has to do with hog hunting. 0:25:50.960 --> 0:25:53.439 But there's a lot of hogs in the piney Woods. 0:25:53.520 --> 0:25:57.119 It was the pimp part that I didn't just what 0:25:57.280 --> 0:25:59.200 pips have to do with hog hunting, I mean, but 0:25:59.359 --> 0:26:02.120 we press on. So the story goes the so called 0:26:02.160 --> 0:26:04.600 piney Wood Pimps. We're a gang of relatively young men 0:26:04.640 --> 0:26:07.840 from Louisiana who came together to hunt Farrell hogs competitively. 0:26:07.920 --> 0:26:11.400 Their names are Trace Davis thirty of Long Billed Louisiana, 0:26:11.600 --> 0:26:15.200 Hunter Webb twenty seven of Pitkin, Louisiana, Coolby Bushnell twenty 0:26:15.240 --> 0:26:17.480 six of Dry Creek. They're all from Louisiana. Yeah, Davy 0:26:17.520 --> 0:26:20.960 Hammond thirty five of Pitkin, Nathan Grainger thirty four of Vinton, 0:26:21.080 --> 0:26:24.960 and Don Pollard Junior forty, also of Pitkin. Okay, now, 0:26:25.000 --> 0:26:28.520 these six men they enter the annual Dylan Dingler Wild 0:26:28.560 --> 0:26:29.440 Hog round Up. 0:26:29.560 --> 0:26:32.280 Stuff, which is and one of them, the disney is 0:26:32.320 --> 0:26:32.840 named Hunter. 0:26:33.160 --> 0:26:36.840 Yeah, of course, kid right up there, Hunter. Well. So 0:26:36.920 --> 0:26:41.080 the Dingler Wild Hog Round Up is held in Bienville 0:26:41.119 --> 0:26:44.040 Parish between February ninth and tenth, and it's hosted by 0:26:44.080 --> 0:26:49.040 Randy Dingler. It's a memorial hunt he holds in honor 0:26:49.080 --> 0:26:51.680 of his son. He's been hosting those hunts since twenty fourteen. 0:26:52.400 --> 0:26:55.439 And about the cheating scandal, Dingler noted, quote, you always 0:26:55.440 --> 0:26:58.560 have somebody wanting to cheat. Luckily we got wildlife and 0:26:58.640 --> 0:27:01.240 fisheries and they stepped in. What they did I never 0:27:01.280 --> 0:27:04.240 would have known. So, Elizabeth, it wasn't just the Dingler 0:27:04.280 --> 0:27:07.080 wild Hog round Up. The Piney Wood Pimps also pulled 0:27:07.080 --> 0:27:10.680 their con job at the Swamp Time Hog Hunt held 0:27:10.720 --> 0:27:14.960 in Caldwell Parish between March fourteenth and sixteenth. The Piney 0:27:15.000 --> 0:27:18.359 Wood Pimps took all the prizes in both hog hunting contests. 0:27:19.080 --> 0:27:22.200 So how did these wild hog hunters cheat? Fantastic question. 0:27:22.280 --> 0:27:23.879 I am so glad you asked that question. 0:27:24.000 --> 0:27:27.159 Let me explain now. In the Dingler wild Hog round Up, 0:27:27.200 --> 0:27:29.760 the rules state that the competitors must form four or 0:27:29.880 --> 0:27:32.320 five man teams. This is like a witness to a crime. 0:27:32.320 --> 0:27:34.840 It's four or five men. So with one or two 0:27:34.880 --> 0:27:37.159 helpers they can trek off into the swamps and woods 0:27:37.200 --> 0:27:40.320 to find wild hogs. Presumably this is to safeguard people 0:27:40.359 --> 0:27:43.480 from the rampaging faral hogs. Anyway, the teams they have 0:27:43.520 --> 0:27:46.359 a time limit to catch the five biggest hogs they 0:27:46.359 --> 0:27:48.600 can scare out of the woods. They're not allowed to 0:27:48.680 --> 0:27:50.800 use fences, nor can they use traps because this is 0:27:50.840 --> 0:27:53.439 a round up, they're not hunting them. The faral hogs 0:27:53.520 --> 0:27:55.480 must be caught by hunting dogs. 0:27:55.680 --> 0:27:56.600 Oh so they're alive. 0:27:56.680 --> 0:27:59.320 They're alive. Yeah, and then the hunters wrangle the faral 0:27:59.359 --> 0:28:02.520 hogs into a trailer, where they're then transported back to 0:28:02.560 --> 0:28:05.639 the contest site to be waved. That's why that's the 0:28:05.680 --> 0:28:10.600 real fight in the trailer them. I don't know if 0:28:10.640 --> 0:28:12.760 that's in the rule book. There's there's. Yeah, there's no 0:28:13.200 --> 0:28:14.960 law on the rule book that a dog can't be 0:28:15.000 --> 0:28:16.760 part of the hunt and or that you can use 0:28:16.760 --> 0:28:17.520 a taser. 0:28:17.359 --> 0:28:19.840 Or do they have to give them tresidon and gabba 0:28:19.880 --> 0:28:22.760 pen and like a piece of cheese to get. 0:28:22.680 --> 0:28:27.040 The train com So, the contestants are supposed to take 0:28:27.080 --> 0:28:29.000 pictures with the hogs they catch and then send that 0:28:29.040 --> 0:28:31.600 pick to the organizer for confirmation. The picture also must 0:28:31.600 --> 0:28:33.960 include the team's assigned number. This is designed so that 0:28:34.000 --> 0:28:37.000 the randomly assigned number determines the hogs were caught during 0:28:37.040 --> 0:28:39.000 the competition. Okay, so you got all the rules right, 0:28:39.000 --> 0:28:39.800 it's all making sense. 0:28:39.920 --> 0:28:41.080 Yeah, it's all making sense. 0:28:41.240 --> 0:28:43.320 Well, the piney Wood Pimps they came back to the 0:28:43.360 --> 0:28:46.000 contest site and they had definitely caught the biggest bore 0:28:46.040 --> 0:28:49.920 of the competition. As the contest organizer Dingler put it, 0:28:50.160 --> 0:28:52.920 this winning team had the biggest bore if I'm not mistaken, 0:28:53.040 --> 0:28:55.240 and they also got first place. They had the heaviest 0:28:55.240 --> 0:28:57.600 way to fud hogs. So good. 0:28:58.200 --> 0:28:59.320 How big are each of them? 0:28:59.320 --> 0:29:03.240 Like hundreds and hundred Yeah, so. 0:29:02.840 --> 0:29:06.280 It's like a two ton one that they out could 0:29:06.320 --> 0:29:07.400 barely walk. 0:29:07.360 --> 0:29:10.640 Six hundred pounds. Yeah. So now since they had. 0:29:10.600 --> 0:29:15.400 Caught the build on a mobility scooter, they're like, gotcha, you're. 0:29:15.320 --> 0:29:18.400 Seeing like Hogzilla. I mean they can get big like halftime. 0:29:18.880 --> 0:29:21.160 So the biggest hog in the Dingler Wild Hog Round Up. 0:29:21.240 --> 0:29:23.560 Each member of the Piney Wood Pimps they won a 0:29:23.600 --> 0:29:26.680 custom belt buckle, you know like a Bronco Bust and 0:29:26.760 --> 0:29:29.720 Rodeo Star would win, right. So that's also for catching 0:29:29.720 --> 0:29:32.120 the heaviest bore of the contest. They also want a jackpot. 0:29:32.240 --> 0:29:34.400 You want to guess how much they won in their. 0:29:34.200 --> 0:29:37.840 Prize twelve thousand dollars one. 0:29:37.760 --> 0:29:38.800 Hundred and eighty dollars. 0:29:38.800 --> 0:29:43.120 Whoa I think thousand those ready to be shocked, or. 0:29:43.120 --> 0:29:45.520 In other words, thirty six dollars per person. 0:29:45.240 --> 0:29:48.000 In the what's the entry feed? 0:29:48.120 --> 0:29:51.680 But that's not all to enter. They also won twenty 0:29:51.720 --> 0:29:54.760 sacks of feed provided by one of the annual hog 0:29:54.800 --> 0:29:55.360 round up spot. 0:29:55.440 --> 0:29:56.480 This is a huge event. 0:29:56.640 --> 0:30:00.960 This is huge. There were, however, two events. Remember the 0:30:01.280 --> 0:30:04.720 second event, the swamp time hog Hunt. That same team, 0:30:04.800 --> 0:30:07.320 the piney Wood Pimps, also managed to bag the biggest 0:30:07.320 --> 0:30:10.880 five hogs string of faral hogs that netted them an 0:30:10.920 --> 0:30:15.240 additional fifteen hundred and fifty eight dollars real money. Yeah, 0:30:15.640 --> 0:30:18.040 so that's enough to like gas up a truck, So 0:30:18.280 --> 0:30:20.600 that's not all, Elizabeth. The piny Wood Pamps also won 0:30:20.640 --> 0:30:23.200 a few side prizes, for instance for bagging the largest 0:30:23.240 --> 0:30:26.120 sal that paid another eight hundred dollars, and they won 0:30:26.160 --> 0:30:28.680 a side prize for the single biggest bore, which paid 0:30:28.680 --> 0:30:32.080 out eleven hundred dollars. All told, they won three thousand, 0:30:32.160 --> 0:30:34.960 six hundred and thirty eight dollars for their four man 0:30:35.040 --> 0:30:40.160 team to split, plus the twenty sacks of feet. So no, 0:30:40.200 --> 0:30:42.360 that's for the first one. I'm saving in total, so 0:30:42.400 --> 0:30:44.520 they worked out to be They hauled eight hundred and 0:30:44.560 --> 0:30:47.560 fourteen dollars and fifty cents per person, and then the 0:30:47.600 --> 0:30:50.400 five sacks of feed per person as well. So of 0:30:50.440 --> 0:30:53.360 course there's also the custom bell buckles, let's not forget those, 0:30:53.640 --> 0:30:57.840 and the bragging rights which last a lifetime. So and 0:30:57.880 --> 0:31:01.360 that is, of course, unless you cheat, and especially if 0:31:01.440 --> 0:31:04.760 you get caught, which is what happened here. You see 0:31:04.760 --> 0:31:07.560 a member of the law enforcement, Sergeant Raymond Davis of 0:31:07.600 --> 0:31:11.040 the Louisiana Department of Wildlife and Fisheries. He'd heard rumors 0:31:11.120 --> 0:31:13.680 that there were cheaters operating in the annual hog hunts 0:31:13.720 --> 0:31:16.680 and round wild hog roundups, so when this new season 0:31:16.760 --> 0:31:19.960 rolled around, he decided he'd launch himself an investigation to 0:31:20.000 --> 0:31:22.400 ferret out any of these cheaters I hear so much about, 0:31:22.480 --> 0:31:26.120 So he enlisted fellow agents from the LDFW, And, as 0:31:26.120 --> 0:31:28.400 Sergeant Davis put it, I had already had an idea 0:31:28.440 --> 0:31:30.520 that there's something going on, just not exactly sure how 0:31:30.520 --> 0:31:32.840 they were cheating. So what does he care? 0:31:33.640 --> 0:31:35.640 How was breaking the law? 0:31:36.520 --> 0:31:39.560 Oh? Good to that. Apparently Sergeant Davis is just as 0:31:39.560 --> 0:31:42.040 good at hunting down cheaters as the pineywood pimps are 0:31:42.080 --> 0:31:45.720 good at faking their hunting down hogs. Louisiana Hog Hunt 0:31:45.720 --> 0:31:49.760 task Force, which he'd formed, collected evidence, they interviewed suspects, 0:31:50.040 --> 0:31:52.880 and this eventually shook the piney Wood pimps. Soon enough, 0:31:52.960 --> 0:31:56.000 five of the six men admitted that they had indeed cheated. 0:31:56.440 --> 0:31:59.200 As Sergeant Davis tells it, when we started interviewing them, 0:31:59.240 --> 0:32:01.400 a couple of the guys are very forthcoming, admitted to 0:32:01.440 --> 0:32:03.560 actually putting the hogs in a holding pan for the 0:32:03.640 --> 0:32:06.600 Binville event prior to the hunt dates, and when it 0:32:06.680 --> 0:32:09.080 got time that pulled the hogs out the holden pans 0:32:09.280 --> 0:32:11.040 and staged the photos with them. 0:32:11.360 --> 0:32:15.240 So they were like, they're hogs. Apparently, well they domesticated, 0:32:15.560 --> 0:32:16.080 I can tell you. 0:32:16.080 --> 0:32:18.480 Where they came from. Okay. But also this explains how 0:32:18.520 --> 0:32:20.880 they won the Dingler wild hog round up and the 0:32:20.920 --> 0:32:24.080 Swamp Time hog hunt because they rounded up the faral 0:32:24.120 --> 0:32:28.200 hogs at a landfill across state lines in East Texas. 0:32:28.280 --> 0:32:31.360 Oh no, they brought them the wild hogs over the 0:32:31.400 --> 0:32:35.040 border into Louisiana. Oh that's the crime boom you called it, 0:32:35.360 --> 0:32:37.560 because they yeah, they'd use the faral hogs to win 0:32:37.640 --> 0:32:42.120 both contests, and a Sergeant Davis kindly explains the complaint 0:32:42.200 --> 0:32:44.320 was they had hunted in Texas. Maybe one of the 0:32:44.400 --> 0:32:47.600 guys says something to someone work got out. We went 0:32:47.640 --> 0:32:49.920 to investigate. We were able to establish that during the 0:32:50.000 --> 0:32:53.240 hunt dates they were in the vicinity of a landfall 0:32:53.320 --> 0:32:55.360 and be on a Texas at the time. They took 0:32:55.400 --> 0:32:58.640 some of the photos and sent the pictures. So as 0:32:58.680 --> 0:33:01.480 for state law, it's illegal to hunt faral hogs in 0:33:01.560 --> 0:33:04.880 Texas and bring them back over state lines into Louisiana. 0:33:04.960 --> 0:33:07.600 Don't bring any extra ones into the state. 0:33:07.520 --> 0:33:10.160 Unless you have permission from the USDA the US Department 0:33:10.160 --> 0:33:12.720 of Agricultures, then it's fine. So keep that in mind 0:33:12.720 --> 0:33:15.400 if you ever rounding up faral hoggs, ask permission for 0:33:15.560 --> 0:33:17.880 So the piney Wood Pimps were accused of not only cheating, 0:33:17.920 --> 0:33:20.840 but also running a criminal conspiracy since they'd acted as 0:33:20.840 --> 0:33:24.280 a team. Yeah, and then the piney Wood Pimps Trace 0:33:24.360 --> 0:33:27.480 Davis Hunter, Webb, Coley Bushnell, Davy Harmon, Nathan Granger, and 0:33:27.520 --> 0:33:32.000 Don Pollard were all charged with hunting contest fraud and 0:33:32.240 --> 0:33:38.720 criminal conspiracy. Hunting contest fraud. Now Davis, Webb, Bushnell, Hayman, 0:33:38.760 --> 0:33:41.760 and Pollard Junior also were charged with violating interstate commerce. 0:33:41.760 --> 0:33:43.960 That's we're bringing the hogs over the border. Yeah, and 0:33:44.080 --> 0:33:47.160 Davis also caught an additional charge of obstruction to justice 0:33:47.200 --> 0:33:49.520 for attempting to destroy evidence of their crime. I think 0:33:49.560 --> 0:33:53.240 he deleted photos web caught a hunter. Webb caught a 0:33:53.280 --> 0:33:57.160 bonus charge of hunting while his hunting license was suspended. 0:33:57.440 --> 0:34:01.800 So hunter, hunter, that hunter, don't hunt. No, Now the 0:34:01.840 --> 0:34:04.440 men face serious charges. Apparently down in Louisiana they take 0:34:04.520 --> 0:34:06.320 hunting contests frauds seriously. 0:34:06.480 --> 0:34:06.680 Yeah. 0:34:06.800 --> 0:34:09.240 Since the men faced a possible one year in jail, 0:34:09.640 --> 0:34:13.080 any three thousand dollars fine interstate commerce violations, I can 0:34:13.160 --> 0:34:15.080 land you another one hundred and twenty days in jail 0:34:15.200 --> 0:34:18.319 with a nine hundred and fifty dollars fine. The big charge, though, 0:34:18.440 --> 0:34:21.960 is obstruction of justice that connects you a five year 0:34:22.000 --> 0:34:24.800 prison sentence and a ten thousand dollars fine. 0:34:25.160 --> 0:34:27.799 Ooh, yeah, they didn't win that much, which just. 0:34:27.719 --> 0:34:30.080 Goes to show that roving hordes of feral hawks aren't 0:34:30.120 --> 0:34:32.840 the only danger in the swamp. You can also catch charges. 0:34:32.960 --> 0:34:35.960 So all right, So now we got that one out 0:34:35.960 --> 0:34:38.160 of the way. I got another goodman. Before you're coming up, Elizabeth, 0:34:38.200 --> 0:34:40.480 take another little break. We'll put the piny wood pimps 0:34:40.520 --> 0:34:43.000 behind us. When we get back, we'll see how cheating 0:34:43.000 --> 0:34:44.799 plays out when you're competing to be one of the 0:34:44.840 --> 0:34:46.080 smartest men in Britain. 0:34:46.280 --> 0:35:09.799 Oh okay, we're back, Elizabeth, Yeah, we are all right. 0:35:09.840 --> 0:35:12.480 So we've done stone Skippers, we've done hog hunters and 0:35:12.600 --> 0:35:17.360 rounder uppers. Well now we're going to uh I mean not, 0:35:17.480 --> 0:35:19.920 these are strange roads to travel down. We're gonna go 0:35:19.960 --> 0:35:22.879 with something a little more familiar to you. Okay, right, 0:35:23.440 --> 0:35:26.359 you and I both love Jeopardy. Oh yes, Now can 0:35:26.400 --> 0:35:29.120 you imagine trying to cheat at Jeopardy? I mean not 0:35:29.200 --> 0:35:31.280 like at home, like you watch the East Coast broadcast 0:35:31.280 --> 0:35:33.799 and then you memorize the answers and watched the West 0:35:33.800 --> 0:35:36.239 Coast broadcast with friends or family. I don't mean that, right, 0:35:36.480 --> 0:35:38.880 I mean like in the studio, in front of the audience, 0:35:38.880 --> 0:35:42.000 with the cameras and everything. Do that. Well, that's what 0:35:42.120 --> 0:35:44.040 happened on the British version of Who Wants to Be 0:35:44.080 --> 0:35:44.759 a Millionaire? 0:35:45.120 --> 0:35:46.520 Oh really, A dude. 0:35:46.280 --> 0:35:48.920 Went on the show and there before the audience, with 0:35:49.000 --> 0:35:51.439 the cameras and the millions of people watching at home, 0:35:51.760 --> 0:35:54.919 he cheated his way to a million pounds. And how 0:35:54.920 --> 0:35:59.720 he did it is ridiculous. Oh, Elizabeth, meet Major Charles Ingram. 0:36:00.400 --> 0:36:03.000 That's his rank, not his name. Major. And the late eighties, 0:36:03.040 --> 0:36:05.200 Major Ingram became a member of the British Army. He 0:36:05.239 --> 0:36:08.320 trained at the Royal Military Academy in Sandhurst. He was 0:36:08.360 --> 0:36:11.080 then commissioned as an officer. He joined the Royal Engineers. 0:36:11.320 --> 0:36:13.799 By nineteen ninety he was made a captain five years later. 0:36:13.920 --> 0:36:16.480 He in ninety five he was a major. And then 0:36:16.520 --> 0:36:18.960 in September two thousand and one, Major Ingram appeared on 0:36:19.000 --> 0:36:21.280 the British version of Who Wants to Be a Millionaire? 0:36:21.520 --> 0:36:24.000 That was the og the originator totally yeah. 0:36:24.040 --> 0:36:26.680 Now, both his brother and his wife had already appeared 0:36:26.680 --> 0:36:30.520 on the show, which seems suspicious on a terme. His 0:36:30.560 --> 0:36:31.560 family went in out all these. 0:36:31.520 --> 0:36:32.359 Spots, I don't know. 0:36:32.400 --> 0:36:34.759 Apparently that part was all legit, and they had both 0:36:34.800 --> 0:36:37.520 won money, not the big grand prize of a million pounds. 0:36:37.560 --> 0:36:39.960 He each won thirty two thousand pounds. 0:36:40.000 --> 0:36:40.799 That's nothing else. 0:36:40.920 --> 0:36:43.920 No, at the time it was about forty two thousand dollars. 0:36:44.000 --> 0:36:47.080 So then on September ninth, two thousand and one, Major 0:36:47.200 --> 0:36:50.040 Ingram appears on the show and on camera Major carried 0:36:50.080 --> 0:36:52.360 himself he's got this military demeanor, you know, like the 0:36:52.400 --> 0:36:55.640 short clip sentences. He's also kind of like cocky and 0:36:55.680 --> 0:36:58.080 like full of himself, but he also tries to play 0:36:58.160 --> 0:37:01.000 like I don't know he does. He works both sides 0:37:01.000 --> 0:37:05.120 of the way. Also, apparently he was allegedly deeply in debt, 0:37:05.560 --> 0:37:08.360 so he had he owed an estimated fifty thousand pounds, 0:37:08.360 --> 0:37:10.920 so he had fifty thousand reasons to win some big money. 0:37:11.000 --> 0:37:12.880 I love it, so you know the answer going a 0:37:12.880 --> 0:37:13.359 game show? 0:37:13.480 --> 0:37:15.399 Yeah, totally, that was his answer. He and his wife 0:37:15.400 --> 0:37:17.319 are like, you know, I won thirty two thousand pounds. 0:37:17.360 --> 0:37:19.480 We just need a little bit more. You go go 0:37:19.560 --> 0:37:24.000 further me. We're good. So also to do the translation 0:37:24.120 --> 0:37:26.240 of how much that is, it's about sixty six thousand 0:37:26.239 --> 0:37:28.839 dollars in debt, he was if you put it in dollars. 0:37:28.600 --> 0:37:31.680 Okay, but don't forget got to pay taxes on those winnings. 0:37:31.760 --> 0:37:33.520 Oh yeah, So he needs to win more than the 0:37:33.560 --> 0:37:36.720 fifty thousands. So he told the show producers he'd prepared 0:37:36.719 --> 0:37:38.719 for the show by practicing twenty minutes a day on 0:37:38.760 --> 0:37:41.640 a homemade device he he'd created. He called it the 0:37:41.680 --> 0:37:45.680 fastest finger first machine. Okay, whatever, so in reality, the 0:37:45.680 --> 0:37:47.320 big way he'd prepared to win some money was that 0:37:47.400 --> 0:37:48.880 he and his wife had come up with a plant 0:37:48.920 --> 0:37:52.080 to cheat. So the story goes Elizabeth. He was on 0:37:52.160 --> 0:37:54.600 the show for two days. First day, he was barely 0:37:54.640 --> 0:37:56.840 hanging in there in the early rounds. He was forced 0:37:56.840 --> 0:37:59.319 to use two of his three lifelines just to make 0:37:59.360 --> 0:38:02.120 it to like the four thousand pound mark on the board, 0:38:02.120 --> 0:38:04.920 which is pretty low. And you know, so he finishes 0:38:04.920 --> 0:38:07.200 his first day of filming right at four thousand pounds, 0:38:07.360 --> 0:38:10.239 got one lifeline left, and he's got his fifty to 0:38:10.280 --> 0:38:12.920 fifty lifeline, if that means anything to you, So it 0:38:13.480 --> 0:38:17.880 reduces the possible number of answers from four to two. Yeah, okay, 0:38:17.920 --> 0:38:19.239 And so he's got a now fifty. 0:38:18.960 --> 0:38:20.640 To fifty choice friends. 0:38:20.760 --> 0:38:23.200 Yeah exactly. I don't know what the other one is like, 0:38:23.280 --> 0:38:24.320 ask somebody in the crowd. 0:38:24.400 --> 0:38:25.560 I don't think so. 0:38:25.560 --> 0:38:28.520 So the then comes the second day of filming, September tenth, 0:38:28.600 --> 0:38:32.120 two thousand and one, major Ingram sitting it's another one 0:38:32.120 --> 0:38:34.680 of our crimes, right for four nine to eleven, Yes exactly. 0:38:34.719 --> 0:38:36.680 So major Ingram is sitting there on his four thousand 0:38:36.680 --> 0:38:39.880 pounds of winnings, which is roughly fifty three hundred dollars dollars. 0:38:40.239 --> 0:38:42.560 Going into that second day of filming, the show's producer's 0:38:42.560 --> 0:38:46.040 productions taff they all doubted that this guy major Ingram 0:38:46.120 --> 0:38:48.680 had what it took to win the million pound prize. 0:38:48.680 --> 0:38:50.880 So they're like, yeah, whatever, how much longer? When do 0:38:50.920 --> 0:38:52.919 we need to get our next competitor in here? Because 0:38:52.960 --> 0:38:55.879 the contestants are waiting for their turn, nobody knows when 0:38:55.920 --> 0:38:58.680 it'll be, so they're sitting there watching the game occur. 0:38:59.160 --> 0:39:02.160 And this is when things fun Elizabeth, or at least fraudulent. 0:39:02.560 --> 0:39:04.200 You see, major Ingram had a secret. He and his 0:39:04.200 --> 0:39:06.560 wife they'd found a way to sneak a ringer into 0:39:06.600 --> 0:39:09.279 the crowd of the game show. Their ringer was a 0:39:09.280 --> 0:39:15.120 college professor, a fellow competitor, fellow entrant named Tekwin wittok Wittick. 0:39:15.520 --> 0:39:18.440 His wife, Diana Ingram, had met Professor Whittick on the 0:39:18.440 --> 0:39:23.359 British trivia game show circuit. Oh apparently okay. So their 0:39:23.400 --> 0:39:26.399 plan was simple. For each question, major Ingram would kind 0:39:26.400 --> 0:39:29.000 of like reread the question aloud as if he were 0:39:29.040 --> 0:39:31.359 thinking out loud, and then that made for good TV. 0:39:31.480 --> 0:39:33.839 So the producers love that. It was a good cover. 0:39:33.960 --> 0:39:35.600 He's like, oh, yeah, I don't know. It could be 0:39:35.640 --> 0:39:37.239 this one, could be that one. I don't know, you know, 0:39:37.320 --> 0:39:39.480 so he's doing all that. The real deal is when 0:39:39.480 --> 0:39:42.080 he read the question aloud and the four possible answers, 0:39:42.440 --> 0:39:47.360 their ringer would signal the correct answer by coughing, and 0:39:47.400 --> 0:39:49.600 that way major Ingram would hear which was the right answer. 0:39:49.600 --> 0:39:51.280 Then he'd like him and Hoffer a little. 0:39:51.040 --> 0:39:53.200 Bit more number of times yeah, and then. 0:39:53.360 --> 0:39:55.520 Do so like, do some more thinking out loud. Then 0:39:55.560 --> 0:39:58.320 he would do whatever the answer was. The Professor Whittick 0:39:58.400 --> 0:40:01.880 coughed at simple straight forward, So there was for instance, 0:40:01.880 --> 0:40:04.400 there was the question who had a hit UK album 0:40:04.440 --> 0:40:08.000 with Born to Do It released in two thousand, So 0:40:08.120 --> 0:40:10.280 before he reads the question back in the puzzle anthem, 0:40:10.320 --> 0:40:13.000 major Ingram offered that he'd never heard of one of 0:40:13.040 --> 0:40:15.880 the answers, this artist named Craig David, who it turns 0:40:15.920 --> 0:40:19.080 out had recorded that song and was the correct answer. 0:40:19.440 --> 0:40:22.120 But major Ingram was undeniably still in the game, so 0:40:22.160 --> 0:40:23.719 he thought, you know, the correct answer might be a 0:40:23.719 --> 0:40:25.920 different group. This group a one. He's like, I think 0:40:25.920 --> 0:40:27.200 it may be a one that was one of the 0:40:27.200 --> 0:40:30.240 four choices. But then he did his active thinking out loud, 0:40:30.280 --> 0:40:33.440 reading the question back and forth, considering the four possible answers. 0:40:33.680 --> 0:40:36.560 He hears Professor Whittick cough as he says the correct 0:40:36.600 --> 0:40:39.239 answer of Craig David. And now Major Ingram has to 0:40:39.280 --> 0:40:41.600 find his way back to the correct answer and ditch 0:40:41.680 --> 0:40:45.120 a previous interest in A one. So he's like, no, 0:40:45.239 --> 0:40:48.200 I'm gonna go Craig David, right, And the Major explains 0:40:48.200 --> 0:40:50.680 his backtracking by saying, eighty percent of the time I'm 0:40:50.680 --> 0:40:52.560 wrong when I guess, you know what, I'll go with 0:40:52.600 --> 0:40:54.759 Craig David. So that's his whole, like, I don't know 0:40:54.760 --> 0:40:57.480 what I'm doing, but yeah, and when you know what, 0:40:57.520 --> 0:40:59.960 he was right, it was Craig David. So he keeps going, 0:41:00.000 --> 0:41:02.840 going on like this until he reaches the penultimate question, 0:41:03.120 --> 0:41:06.640 worth five hundred thousand pounds. He's one answer away from 0:41:06.680 --> 0:41:09.240 the final answer, which is obviously worth a million pounds. 0:41:09.320 --> 0:41:09.520 Yeah. 0:41:09.560 --> 0:41:12.200 So for this pen ultimate question, Major Ingram is asked 0:41:12.520 --> 0:41:15.680 Baron Hausman is best known for his planning of which 0:41:15.719 --> 0:41:20.240 city his options are A Athens, b Rome, C Paris, 0:41:20.360 --> 0:41:24.200 or D Berlin. Major Ingram reasons that the answer must 0:41:24.200 --> 0:41:26.880 be Berlin. He's like, I think it's Berlin. His reason 0:41:26.920 --> 0:41:29.880 is obvious because Houseman is a German name and Berlin 0:41:30.120 --> 0:41:32.719 is a German city, but he doesn't think like maybe 0:41:32.719 --> 0:41:35.799 this is a trick question. Right later on, he's like, 0:41:35.840 --> 0:41:37.839 but I'm never sure. If I was at home, I'd 0:41:37.840 --> 0:41:40.400 be saying Berlin. If I was watching on TV. He 0:41:40.560 --> 0:41:42.840 just freely admits, like, you know, all of his thinking 0:41:42.840 --> 0:41:45.319 and also how dumb he is about certain things. Host 0:41:45.320 --> 0:41:47.320 of the game show reminds him this question is worth 0:41:47.360 --> 0:41:49.719 five hundred thousand pounds. If he gets it wrong, he 0:41:49.800 --> 0:41:52.359 loses everything. He could walk away with what he has 0:41:52.440 --> 0:41:54.640 up till now, which would take care of his debt. 0:41:54.920 --> 0:41:57.399 Major Ingram He's like, no, I think it's Berlin. Host 0:41:57.400 --> 0:41:59.359 tells him take your time, you know, like, let's think 0:41:59.400 --> 0:42:02.080 about this. Then suddenly here's someone in the audience cough 0:42:02.600 --> 0:42:06.800 and then also sounds like they literally say no right 0:42:07.000 --> 0:42:10.600 after the cough. I watched the whole video. It's crazy. 0:42:10.880 --> 0:42:13.279 So major Ingram he does more of his thinking out loud, 0:42:13.320 --> 0:42:15.759 and he says, well, I don't think it's Paris, and 0:42:15.800 --> 0:42:20.120 then again he rolls out Athens in Rome. He's down 0:42:20.160 --> 0:42:22.680 to it either being Paris or Berlin, right, and then 0:42:22.719 --> 0:42:26.000 again he backtracks. He course corrects. He says, I thought 0:42:26.080 --> 0:42:29.680 it was Berlin, but there's a chance it's Paris. I'm 0:42:29.680 --> 0:42:33.279 not sure. Let me think. As he pretends to think, 0:42:33.320 --> 0:42:35.440 the host says, you know, he doesn't have to answer, 0:42:35.480 --> 0:42:37.440 once again reminds him he can walk home with the 0:42:37.440 --> 0:42:39.120 two hundred and fifty pounds. 0:42:39.280 --> 0:42:40.839 They're loving him dragging this. 0:42:41.440 --> 0:42:44.319 It's fantastic, teav Yeah, right, it's exactly what the producers want, 0:42:44.440 --> 0:42:47.360 especially when nobody saw this guy going this far. It 0:42:47.360 --> 0:42:50.960 looks like it's purely luck or something like that. So 0:42:51.080 --> 0:42:53.920 Majoringham presses on and he goes. He thinks aloud, I 0:42:53.960 --> 0:42:57.520 think it's Paris, and after he hamsen Hall a little bit, 0:42:57.560 --> 0:43:00.160 he locks in his answer. Majoringham says, okay, I'm to 0:43:00.200 --> 0:43:03.279 go for Parish. Final answer, Ding ding ding, wouldn't you 0:43:03.360 --> 0:43:06.320 know it? Once again stumbles his way into a correct answer. 0:43:06.719 --> 0:43:09.440 Now the host is like, you're the luckiest man in Britain. 0:43:09.440 --> 0:43:12.480 This is incredible. So now he's one answer away from 0:43:12.480 --> 0:43:15.080 his million pounds. But you know what, Elizabeth, rather than me, 0:43:15.120 --> 0:43:18.480 tell you about that one answer away, close your eyes, 0:43:19.680 --> 0:43:28.160 I want you to picture it's September tenth, two thousand 0:43:28.160 --> 0:43:29.839 and one, and you are on the set of Who 0:43:29.880 --> 0:43:32.439 Wants to Be a Millionaire? You are a contestant who 0:43:32.480 --> 0:43:34.920 is waiting for your turn in the hot seat. But 0:43:35.000 --> 0:43:37.320 at the moment you're watching the second day of filming 0:43:37.360 --> 0:43:41.759 for current contestant, Major Charles Ingram, the British military engineer, 0:43:41.800 --> 0:43:44.439 had a shaky first day. You did not think he'd 0:43:44.440 --> 0:43:46.720 make it. As far as he's come, he doesn't seem 0:43:46.719 --> 0:43:49.960 to know much, yet he keeps getting lucky, talking himself 0:43:50.000 --> 0:43:52.759 into answers he clearly does not know by his own admission, 0:43:53.000 --> 0:43:55.440 But as he says over and over again, by process 0:43:55.480 --> 0:43:59.439 of elimination, he somehow keeps finding the right answers. Now 0:43:59.440 --> 0:44:01.680 he's on the threat threshold of winning the grand prize. 0:44:02.000 --> 0:44:04.920 The host says that they've reached the million pound question, 0:44:05.080 --> 0:44:08.000 question fifteen. If he's right, he'll become the third person 0:44:08.000 --> 0:44:11.960 in Britain to win the million pound pot. The game 0:44:12.000 --> 0:44:14.760 show producers play the familiar music they use to heighten 0:44:14.800 --> 0:44:17.560 the tension, and then the host reads the one million 0:44:17.600 --> 0:44:22.200 pound question. A number one followed by one hundred zeros 0:44:22.360 --> 0:44:33.000 is known by what name A Google, B, Megatron, C, gigabit, D, nanomole, 0:44:33.800 --> 0:44:36.279 and then you hear it, the silence that stretches and 0:44:36.320 --> 0:44:39.080 fills the void of any answers or words from major Ingram. 0:44:39.320 --> 0:44:41.920 After a long pause, the kind that makes for great TV, 0:44:42.360 --> 0:44:46.560 major Ingram says, all right, then you think to yourself 0:44:46.640 --> 0:44:49.080 what I am? You also remind yourself when it's your 0:44:49.080 --> 0:44:50.400 turn in the hot seat, you're not going to do 0:44:50.400 --> 0:44:53.200 any cheeky games of false modesty or whatever the hell 0:44:53.280 --> 0:44:56.040 major Ingram is doing. You check his wife in the 0:44:56.080 --> 0:44:58.719 audience to see how she's handling this moment, and she 0:44:58.840 --> 0:45:01.799 holds bald up fists next to her face, blocking her mouth. 0:45:01.920 --> 0:45:04.960 She's clearly nervous for her husband, but he can't see her. 0:45:05.120 --> 0:45:08.440 She's seated behind him to prevent any cheating, sending signals 0:45:08.440 --> 0:45:10.400 the kind that a couple can send with just their eyes. 0:45:10.880 --> 0:45:15.719 Major Ingram thinks aloud, Mega, No, No, He thinks more, 0:45:15.719 --> 0:45:18.640 and he says, I'm not sure. The host has an 0:45:18.640 --> 0:45:22.399 amusement coloring his voice. Charles, you haven't been sure since 0:45:22.480 --> 0:45:26.400 question number two? Major Ingram nervously laughs. He confesses that 0:45:26.480 --> 0:45:31.120 his doubts have magnified again. You think what I am? Meanwhile, 0:45:31.160 --> 0:45:35.760 major Ingram presses on he says, I think it's a nanomole. 0:45:36.080 --> 0:45:39.280 This is followed by silence from the audience. Then major 0:45:39.360 --> 0:45:42.600 Ingram corrects himself and says, but it could be a gigabit. 0:45:42.880 --> 0:45:45.960 Again silence from the crowd, and so he starts over, 0:45:46.680 --> 0:45:49.960 I don't think it's a megatron. More silence. Then he 0:45:50.000 --> 0:45:53.839 considers one answer he's yet to say. Major Ingram thinks aloud, says, 0:45:54.120 --> 0:45:55.839 and I have to say, I don't think I've ever 0:45:55.880 --> 0:45:59.080 heard of a Google. He says again to himself, Google 0:45:59.239 --> 0:46:01.640 like it's a weird word in his mouth, like it's 0:46:01.719 --> 0:46:04.440 made up from some sci fi show he never watched. 0:46:04.760 --> 0:46:08.840 And that's when you hear it. That's odd. There's that 0:46:08.920 --> 0:46:11.640 scratchy throat guy again. Someone in the crowd really needs 0:46:11.680 --> 0:46:15.960 a lozenge. Meanwhile, major Ingram says, by process of elimination, 0:46:16.239 --> 0:46:18.799 I actually think it's Google, but I don't know what 0:46:18.880 --> 0:46:24.000 a Google is. Then there's more coffin. It sounds almost emphatic. 0:46:24.080 --> 0:46:27.440 Now major Ingram continues to think aloud. I don't think 0:46:27.480 --> 0:46:30.960 it's a gigabit. I don't think it's a nanomole. I 0:46:30.960 --> 0:46:33.640 don't think it's a megatron. I really do think it's 0:46:33.640 --> 0:46:37.880 a Google. And just like clockwork, you look around to 0:46:37.920 --> 0:46:40.400 see who the scratchy throat guy is who keeps coughing. 0:46:40.600 --> 0:46:43.440 The host reminds major Ingram, but you thought it was 0:46:43.440 --> 0:46:46.640 a nanomole. You've never heard of a Google, and there's 0:46:46.680 --> 0:46:50.920 a million pounds involved. Major Ingram says, now confidently, I know, 0:46:51.080 --> 0:46:54.759 but it's not a gigabit, a nano mole, or a megatron, 0:46:54.840 --> 0:46:57.000 and there's only four of them, so it must be 0:46:57.080 --> 0:46:59.960 a Google. He reiterates that I don't actually know what 0:47:00.160 --> 0:47:02.359 Google is, but I mean it's the only chance I'll 0:47:02.440 --> 0:47:05.640 or ever have a winning a million. As the audience laughs, 0:47:05.719 --> 0:47:08.520 the host reminds him, Charles, it's also the only chance 0:47:08.520 --> 0:47:10.719 you will have of losing four hundred and sixty eight 0:47:10.760 --> 0:47:14.359 thousan pounds. The audience laughs again. Then the host tells 0:47:14.440 --> 0:47:17.279 him take a time. Major Ingram wipes his face with 0:47:17.360 --> 0:47:20.279 his hands. His wife holds her hands against her face, 0:47:20.400 --> 0:47:23.439 so nervous, and then you both hear major Ingram say, 0:47:23.880 --> 0:47:26.319 I mean, my strategy has worked so far. Just take 0:47:26.320 --> 0:47:28.160 it by the bid and go for it. And he 0:47:28.160 --> 0:47:31.200 adds that I have to rethink it. I don't think 0:47:31.200 --> 0:47:34.800 it's a gigabit. Silence from the crowd, major Ingram says, 0:47:35.320 --> 0:47:39.120 I don't think it's a nanomole. More silence. Then he says, 0:47:39.160 --> 0:47:46.719 thinking aloud again, Megatron Mega Mega Mega Mega. Yeah, I 0:47:46.719 --> 0:47:50.439 don't think it's a megatron. More silence. Major Ingram says, 0:47:50.960 --> 0:47:56.680 I'm sure it's a Google. That's it. This is more 0:47:56.719 --> 0:47:59.480 than mere coincidence. You know the answer is Google. You're 0:47:59.560 --> 0:48:01.720 certain it. It sure seems like someone else in the crowd 0:48:01.800 --> 0:48:05.720 knows this is true too. Meanwhile, major Ingram stops thinking aloud. 0:48:05.760 --> 0:48:08.640 He says, Okay, I'm gonna play it. The audience casts. 0:48:09.120 --> 0:48:11.400 Major Ingram can't be shaken. He says, I'm gonna play it. 0:48:13.200 --> 0:48:15.120 Are you kidding me? You look around to see if 0:48:15.160 --> 0:48:18.479 anyone else hears what you hear. Meanwhile, major Ingram says, 0:48:18.480 --> 0:48:21.520 now quite confident about something he's admitted to having never 0:48:21.600 --> 0:48:25.040 heard of before this moment. It's a Google, he says, 0:48:25.080 --> 0:48:28.040 to the heavens God, is it a Google? Silence. He 0:48:28.080 --> 0:48:30.520 looks at the host and says, yeah, it's a Google. 0:48:32.560 --> 0:48:35.680 There it is again. This is egregious. You think you 0:48:35.719 --> 0:48:38.160 look to see if the production team here's what you hear. 0:48:38.480 --> 0:48:41.120 In that same moment, major Ingram says I'm going to 0:48:41.160 --> 0:48:46.000 play Google and those says final answer. Yes, final answer. 0:48:46.400 --> 0:48:49.279 Then the show goes for commercial break to heighten the 0:48:49.360 --> 0:48:51.720 drum or perhaps it's two by time for the production 0:48:51.840 --> 0:48:53.680 team to go back over the footage to see who 0:48:53.680 --> 0:48:56.920 the coughing guy is, You think to yourself, they have 0:48:57.000 --> 0:48:59.719 to have heard that spate of coughing. Every time there's 0:48:59.760 --> 0:49:02.160 mention of the correct answers, and the show does come 0:49:02.160 --> 0:49:04.680 back from commercial break, the host builds up back up 0:49:04.680 --> 0:49:09.000 the drama. The music plays. He recounts major Ingram's improbable 0:49:09.080 --> 0:49:12.719 path to a million pound question. The host rereads the 0:49:12.800 --> 0:49:16.920 question the four possible answers. He finally tells major Ingram, Charles, 0:49:17.200 --> 0:49:19.680 give me back that check for five hundred thousand pounds, 0:49:19.719 --> 0:49:22.600 the one that Charles is holding. You watch his major 0:49:22.760 --> 0:49:25.480 Ingram complies. The host rips up the check and says 0:49:25.680 --> 0:49:29.480 you no longer have that now you The crowd major 0:49:29.600 --> 0:49:32.400 Ingram all wait for the final answer, and finally the 0:49:32.480 --> 0:49:37.360 host announces you just won one million pounds. The audience 0:49:37.400 --> 0:49:41.239 goes wild, the cheers, major Ingram shouts yes. The host 0:49:41.239 --> 0:49:46.000 steps forward, hugs him. Confetti rains down from the studio ceiling. 0:49:46.160 --> 0:49:49.080 It's like a month. Soon of like shiny paper, the 0:49:49.200 --> 0:49:52.640 confetti covers the set. As game show music plays, the 0:49:52.680 --> 0:49:56.000 host says to major Ingram, you are the most amazing 0:49:56.040 --> 0:50:00.880 contestant we've ever ever had. So there you go. You 0:50:01.040 --> 0:50:04.160 just watched a man steal a million pounds in front 0:50:04.160 --> 0:50:08.720 of you. To the crowd, the cameras, the audience watching 0:50:08.760 --> 0:50:14.040 at home, you've all been witnessed this episode. A major 0:50:14.160 --> 0:50:16.800 Ingram just brazly pulled off a game show heist. 0:50:17.120 --> 0:50:17.799 Unbelievable. 0:50:18.040 --> 0:50:19.959 So what happens next? Great question? 0:50:20.200 --> 0:50:21.080 Is such a good question. 0:50:21.239 --> 0:50:23.960 Didn't take long for questions to be raised, for doubts 0:50:24.000 --> 0:50:27.680 to surface, for producers and other contestants to voice their 0:50:27.680 --> 0:50:30.920 concerns that major Ingram's million pounds win might not be 0:50:31.040 --> 0:50:33.399 on the up and up. In fact, producers was so 0:50:33.440 --> 0:50:36.800 suspicious that they ordered a search of major Ingram's body 0:50:36.840 --> 0:50:40.120 before he left the studio. Really production team. They checked 0:50:40.120 --> 0:50:43.880 his hair, his clothes, his pockets, his shoes. 0:50:44.200 --> 0:50:48.640 They the contents. I guess I get so sensitive to 0:50:48.719 --> 0:50:50.720 those things. Of the sound of people. 0:50:50.880 --> 0:50:51.600 Why I put you in. 0:50:53.400 --> 0:50:54.760 It's supposed to be so quiet. 0:50:55.719 --> 0:50:58.000 I try to play up the silent silence. 0:50:58.600 --> 0:51:01.879 Yeah, exactly, And you watched this, I watched the whole thing, 0:51:02.000 --> 0:51:04.800 watched the whole thing, and uhous. 0:51:04.960 --> 0:51:07.000 So they can find no clear indication that he cheated, 0:51:07.040 --> 0:51:09.880 so they let him go. Right then the unexpected happens, 0:51:09.920 --> 0:51:13.279 major Ingram and his wife reunite backstage. Yeah right, they're 0:51:13.360 --> 0:51:15.720 all going to celebrate the win. But when the show's 0:51:15.760 --> 0:51:18.600 producers go back by the like the dressing room that 0:51:18.600 --> 0:51:23.200 they're in, they overhear the couple arguing, like shouting, screaming 0:51:23.239 --> 0:51:23.839 at each other. 0:51:24.000 --> 0:51:24.200 What. 0:51:24.719 --> 0:51:28.560 Yeah, there's speculation later on that he was only supposed 0:51:28.560 --> 0:51:30.960 to go so far, but apparently he just wanted to 0:51:31.000 --> 0:51:34.279 win the million dollars because which is far more suspicious 0:51:34.280 --> 0:51:36.000 than he would have won like one hundred and twenty 0:51:36.040 --> 0:51:38.040 eight thousand. Yeah, and which is all they needed to 0:51:38.040 --> 0:51:40.600 clear their debts. Remember they did this to clear their debts. Yeah, 0:51:40.640 --> 0:51:43.080 and now he's like, I'm going for broke baby, So 0:51:43.120 --> 0:51:44.600 she's like, you've ruined it all. 0:51:44.719 --> 0:51:47.560 This is not the time to have the argument at all. 0:51:48.080 --> 0:51:51.200 They're they're a classic game face game face. So in 0:51:51.280 --> 0:51:54.400 the moments before the host brings them champagne to celebrate, 0:51:54.719 --> 0:51:57.480 pretty much half of the production staff hears them screaming 0:51:57.520 --> 0:52:01.440 and shouting and the producer's suspicions now are completely alerted. 0:52:01.440 --> 0:52:03.400 So they go back and they check the tape and 0:52:03.440 --> 0:52:06.520 that's when they notice what you heard during the live recording, 0:52:06.719 --> 0:52:09.799 the coughing. They figure out that it's coming from one 0:52:10.280 --> 0:52:13.080 of the other contestants waiting for his turn, a man 0:52:13.200 --> 0:52:17.320 named Professor Whittick, and there were other coughs coming from Diana. 0:52:17.480 --> 0:52:20.759 Major Ingram's wife was up there. The two of them 0:52:21.040 --> 0:52:25.000 were both taking turns to get him there, which is 0:52:25.000 --> 0:52:28.600 more than just suspicious, it's proof of crime. So producers 0:52:28.640 --> 0:52:31.359 they don't give major Ingram his one million pound check 0:52:31.440 --> 0:52:34.919 they told it instead. The show's tapes are then given 0:52:34.960 --> 0:52:38.359 to London Metro Police to go over, which they do. 0:52:38.760 --> 0:52:41.239 The obvious coughing stands out to them as it did 0:52:41.280 --> 0:52:45.360 to your ears. They draw up criminal charges. Major Ingram, 0:52:45.400 --> 0:52:48.840 his wife, Diana, Professor Whittick. They're all arrested, charged with 0:52:49.000 --> 0:52:51.560 fraud or is the British barristers prefer to call it 0:52:51.840 --> 0:52:55.040 procuring the execution of a valuable security by deception. 0:52:55.360 --> 0:52:58.040 It sounds like the characters on an episode of Father 0:52:58.160 --> 0:53:01.120 Brown like totally Professor Whittick. 0:53:01.320 --> 0:53:05.239 Yeah. So the trial lasts four weeks. The jury comes back. 0:53:05.280 --> 0:53:08.719 They deliberate for three and a half days. Oh, which 0:53:08.760 --> 0:53:10.080 is a lot more. I thought it would be three 0:53:10.080 --> 0:53:12.640 and a half hours. Yeah, exactly, No, they were. They 0:53:12.640 --> 0:53:15.600 were almost a hung jury. In the end, all three 0:53:15.640 --> 0:53:20.200 are found guilty. They're convicted. The Ingrams catch eighteen month sentences. 0:53:20.280 --> 0:53:23.040 Professor Whittick is sentenced to a year behind bars. Are 0:53:23.440 --> 0:53:27.799 for game show manipulation, so they also get fined. The 0:53:27.920 --> 0:53:30.399 Ingrams are forced to pay the court costs for the 0:53:30.880 --> 0:53:33.680 for the prosecution. So this amounts to roughly one hundred 0:53:33.680 --> 0:53:35.759 and fourteen thousand pounds, which is about one hundred and 0:53:35.760 --> 0:53:37.240 fifty two thousand dollars America. 0:53:37.400 --> 0:53:40.040 Hey you were in debt before, Yeah, no, honey, Yeah. 0:53:39.880 --> 0:53:42.400 He just tripled it or trebled it, so that's not all. 0:53:42.400 --> 0:53:46.360 Elizabeth major Ingram was still an active British Army officer. 0:53:46.840 --> 0:53:49.760 Oh no, you know, they don't play on that kind. No, 0:53:50.120 --> 0:53:52.600 so no stiff rupper lip and carry on on. This 0:53:52.640 --> 0:53:55.920 one Army stepped in. They handed down their own punishment. 0:53:56.200 --> 0:53:59.440 Major Ingram was forced to resign. He did get to 0:53:59.520 --> 0:54:00.880 keep his pensions. 0:54:00.560 --> 0:54:00.920 Oh he did. 0:54:01.040 --> 0:54:02.799 Yeah, I didn't think he was going to get that. Yeah, yeah, 0:54:02.800 --> 0:54:05.200 So that's how major Ingram missed out on a life 0:54:05.280 --> 0:54:08.480 changing million pound prize and instead became a laughing stock 0:54:08.560 --> 0:54:11.759 for flagrant cheating and showing his hole behind on TV 0:54:12.600 --> 0:54:15.440 one cough at a time. So there you go, Elizabeth. 0:54:15.640 --> 0:54:17.080 What is our ridiculous takeaway? 0:54:17.400 --> 0:54:23.040 Yeah, cheaters never prosper. Oh that's nice. What's yours? 0:54:23.400 --> 0:54:26.440 I love that? Just that their plan was we're gonna 0:54:26.719 --> 0:54:28.480 you know, obviously they weren't going for the million pounds, 0:54:28.520 --> 0:54:30.000 but let's say they were going for like one hundred 0:54:30.000 --> 0:54:31.759 and you know, twenty eight one hundred and twenty five 0:54:31.800 --> 0:54:32.400 thousand dollars. 0:54:32.560 --> 0:54:32.799 Yeah. 0:54:33.600 --> 0:54:37.640 Their idea was we'll just cough racket. They didn't have 0:54:37.680 --> 0:54:40.520 anything more complicated than that. They didn't mix it up 0:54:40.520 --> 0:54:44.280 with like other sounds like a sneeze, a cough, maybe 0:54:44.320 --> 0:54:47.319 like a deep scratching or like a yawn. It was 0:54:47.400 --> 0:54:48.960 just one sound always. 0:54:49.000 --> 0:54:51.759 At the same time, they're also risking the notion that 0:54:51.800 --> 0:54:53.840 they the producers could be like, I'm sorry, we got 0:54:53.920 --> 0:54:56.080 to run this one again. Someone was making noise in 0:54:56.120 --> 0:54:58.400 the audience, yea. Or they're taking the guy out his 0:54:58.520 --> 0:55:01.239 coughing and be like yeah, outside. 0:55:00.880 --> 0:55:01.920 Removing the ringer. 0:55:02.120 --> 0:55:04.560 Yeah, because you're obviously disturbing the recording. 0:55:04.680 --> 0:55:08.040 Yes, sir, do you need medical assistance? So there you go. 0:55:08.200 --> 0:55:11.480 And when the ringer that I use on this podcast 0:55:11.600 --> 0:55:15.120 starts hacking it up too much, I say, X Nate waits. 0:55:16.440 --> 0:55:19.719 The eye signals, So there you go. You're in the 0:55:19.719 --> 0:55:22.520 mood for a talk pack. We can rinse this one bag. 0:55:22.719 --> 0:55:28.320 Oh I love that. 0:55:26.400 --> 0:55:33.880 Oh my god. I went gee. 0:55:37.360 --> 0:55:40.560 Re listening to your tom VU episode and you were like, 0:55:40.560 --> 0:55:42.200 I'd like to see him try not to let me 0:55:42.239 --> 0:55:44.680 go to the bathroom. I'd go in the corner. In 0:55:44.760 --> 0:55:46.960 high school, we had a teacher that wouldn't let us 0:55:47.000 --> 0:55:49.440 go to the bathroom. One of the boys in class 0:55:49.600 --> 0:55:51.359 really had to go, and he kept saying, I got 0:55:51.440 --> 0:55:54.040 a pee. You don't understand. I gotta go. She wouldn't 0:55:54.080 --> 0:55:56.279 let him go, so he stood up, walked to the 0:55:56.280 --> 0:55:59.759 corner and did his business in her trash can. As 0:56:00.480 --> 0:56:03.600 ridiculous and thank you for always making me laugh. 0:56:04.680 --> 0:56:07.920 I love that. He's a hero, you know, one of 0:56:07.920 --> 0:56:10.600 your steople. The teachers are like they want to you know, 0:56:10.640 --> 0:56:12.600 because kids say they want to go to the bathroom, 0:56:12.640 --> 0:56:14.800 they go horse around or go to other stuff becomes. 0:56:14.560 --> 0:56:15.200 A power play. 0:56:15.400 --> 0:56:18.160 But that you could that is not healthy. That's a 0:56:18.239 --> 0:56:19.360 bad thing to do to. 0:56:19.480 --> 0:56:23.160 Oh yeah, keeping like flatter infections, all kinds of yes, exactly. 0:56:23.360 --> 0:56:26.080 It's a power trip sometimes. Yeah, I love that. Just 0:56:26.120 --> 0:56:26.960 pin in the corner. 0:56:27.200 --> 0:56:27.680 There you go. 0:56:29.520 --> 0:56:33.279 Yeah, it doesn't matter what I as always. You can 0:56:33.280 --> 0:56:36.600 find his online Ridiculous Crime on Instagram and Blue Sky 0:56:36.680 --> 0:56:38.360 on Instagram. We have pictures from the show. If you 0:56:38.400 --> 0:56:40.359 want to see what major ingram looks like, go check 0:56:40.400 --> 0:56:43.360 that out. And uh, we also have our account Ridiculous 0:56:43.400 --> 0:56:47.560 Crime pod pod on YouTube, so you can watch these shows. 0:56:47.560 --> 0:56:49.800 It doesn't feature us if you're just animation, but it's 0:56:49.880 --> 0:56:51.759 just as fun to watch. 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