Speaker 1: I'm Tamika d.
Speaker 2: Mallory and it shit boy, my son it generally.
Speaker 1: We are your host of TMI.
Speaker 3: Tamika and my Son's Information, Truth, motivation and.
Speaker 1: Inspiration, new energy. What's going on, my son, Lennon.
Speaker 3: It's just one of them days, man, you know, I'm
Speaker 3: just pushing through today, just pushing through.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll tell you, boy, It's been a lot during
Speaker 4: the holidays season. You know, a lot of things happen
Speaker 4: to people, folks who are suffering with, you know, being
Speaker 4: unable to access friends and family because they are incarcerated
Speaker 4: or you know whatever away maybe even in the military
Speaker 4: or somewhere that they can't be with them. And then
Speaker 4: you have people who've lost loved ones. I know you've
Speaker 4: lost your mom, and it's tough time during the holidays.
Speaker 4: And I was having a conversation earlier today with Yandy
Speaker 4: about all the other things that we have been facing
Speaker 4: as a movement family. One family member in the hospital,
Speaker 4: w amputations, excuse me, w double amputations, another friend whose
Speaker 4: family as well passed away, And it's just been so
Speaker 4: much that we have personally been dealing with. And you know,
Speaker 4: Yande's obviously close to us and knows everybody and has
Speaker 4: been checking in every day on the different situations, the
Speaker 4: roller coaster that we've been on. And as she and
Speaker 4: I were talking, how do we help the children that
Speaker 4: are remaining from the friend who's deceased, how do we
Speaker 4: help the other friend who's amputated deal with this new
Speaker 4: life that he now faces. I was looking at her,
Speaker 4: and she's getting her hair done and her hairstyles. Who's
Speaker 4: our friend also, Bryant. He was, you know, doing his
Speaker 4: professional job, not minding our business and our conversation, which
Speaker 4: he often does. And then I looked at him and
Speaker 4: I thought, oh, Brian, wow, your mom passed away around
Speaker 4: this time as well, and he was just it's like, yep,
Speaker 4: and it's really really, really really hard. And so it's
Speaker 4: just like you want to be excited because you got
Speaker 4: the trees and the lights and the things and people
Speaker 4: coming together and you know, the good songs, good music,
Speaker 4: but at the end of the day, the pain of
Speaker 4: all of what takes place, especially end of year, has
Speaker 4: been hitting us really really really hard.
Speaker 2: It's really been a lot.
Speaker 3: Man. So well, my friend, you know, he actually lives
Speaker 3: in my building, so you know, just seeing him and
Speaker 3: then no, excuse me, and then going to the hospital
Speaker 3: to visit him, and just like you said, seeing him
Speaker 3: without legs was a lot. And then a couple of
Speaker 3: hours after that, we found out that our friend Kevin,
Speaker 3: you know, passed away, who was our friend and our
Speaker 3: driver and our Conford on security, like you know, he
Speaker 3: just does so he meant so much to us.
Speaker 2: So all of these things.
Speaker 3: Is happening at one time, and then just you know,
Speaker 3: just the ills and spilled of just life and the
Speaker 3: movement and the work that we do all all the time,
Speaker 3: you know, and just trying to, like you said, trying
Speaker 3: to be happy.
Speaker 2: During this time.
Speaker 3: You know, have sons and grandson and you know you
Speaker 3: want to be happy and joyous and festive for them.
Speaker 3: But then you deal with all of these things. So
Speaker 3: you know, it's just's you know what, I'm gonna figure
Speaker 3: it out. I'm gonna keep on moving, you know, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna take a looking and keep on ticket, you know,
Speaker 3: because that's what careful one anyway, you want us to
Speaker 3: continue to move on. You know, he believed in the
Speaker 3: work that we do that we do, and you know,
Speaker 3: and he always was supportive of us and right there
Speaker 3: with us. So you know, we just got to keep
Speaker 3: on this training gonna stop. We gotta keep on moving
Speaker 3: because we now we just have more angels man and
Speaker 3: just we and we're praying for our brother Roman to
Speaker 3: make us a recovery, you know.
Speaker 2: And so it's just.
Speaker 1: A lot, yeah it is.
Speaker 4: But just to all those people who are out there
Speaker 4: facing this holiday season with challenges, not having the resources
Speaker 4: that you wish you had to take care of things
Speaker 4: that you want to do, not even to go out
Speaker 4: and spurge and buy up the world, but just to
Speaker 4: have the right meals to cook, prepare for your family,
Speaker 4: or the right ways to you know, come together and
Speaker 4: celebrate and feel just comfortable in your skin. It's a
Speaker 4: rough time.
Speaker 1: I went.
Speaker 4: I was really trying to go see my son and
Speaker 4: his family for a couple of days leading up to
Speaker 4: Christmas rather than mailing stuff and for my granddaughter because
Speaker 4: I don't buy Christmas gifts for anybody, but I want
Speaker 4: her to have little things for me for the holiday.
Speaker 4: And I said, well, I'll just go there and we'll
Speaker 4: run around together and find her little things.
Speaker 1: And the plane.
Speaker 4: Ticket literally is nine hundred dollars for me to get
Speaker 4: from New York City to Atlanta and back it's outrageous.
Speaker 4: So people who even want it get somewhere don't even
Speaker 4: have the resources that they need to be able to
Speaker 4: do it. Because if I can't do it, and I'm
Speaker 4: a person that has resources, and I'm not gonna spend
Speaker 4: nine hundred dollars to go somewhere to spend more money,
Speaker 4: like that's it. It doesn't make sense. So I don't
Speaker 4: know what I'm gonna do. I don't know if I'm
Speaker 4: gonna go, you know, I don't know how I'm like
Speaker 4: does they say Tuesdays is the low day for tickets
Speaker 4: and meanwhile, this is Tuesday that I'm searching and the
Speaker 4: tickets are skyrocketing.
Speaker 1: So it's just it's just heavy, you know.
Speaker 4: And I can imagine that there's somebody who's listening to
Speaker 4: Day that's like, wow, thank you for seeing me, you
Speaker 4: know and seeing my situation.
Speaker 1: So that's that. On that.
Speaker 4: Just wanting to quick quick quick thought of the day today.
Speaker 4: I saw ray J. We saw ray J out the
Speaker 4: other night, rolling out weekend and we saw him out
Speaker 4: and he's ray J all the time, and you know,
Speaker 4: I was looking at him thinking to myself, you know,
Speaker 4: we've known ray Ja for some time now, like.
Speaker 1: He's a really really really good brother. So he's our brother.
Speaker 4: He's a good brother, and you know, I know it
Speaker 4: must be difficult when you are coming. You know, you're
Speaker 4: in a situation where you're talented and he's very creative
Speaker 4: from a business perspective, and so many things happen in
Speaker 4: life that aggravates you along the way. So when we
Speaker 4: saw him, I'm like listen telling him basically, ray J,
Speaker 4: please please please please don't talk to the internet. It's
Speaker 4: not a real place. Like the internet is not a
Speaker 4: real place. It is a space where people want nothing
Speaker 4: more than to just hear what you were saying so
Speaker 4: they can feel they can act like they feel sorry
Speaker 4: for you, but really just talk about you and gossip
Speaker 4: and you know, and just like piece together your life
Speaker 4: and then try to demean you, bring you down. Judge
Speaker 4: that statement. We listen and we do not judge. The
Speaker 4: Internet listens and it judges all the time, and that's
Speaker 4: just what it is. And I understand that when you
Speaker 4: need to use the Internet as a tool for messaging
Speaker 4: or to deal with issues, that's one thing. But just
Speaker 4: thinking that you could turn that Internet on and go
Speaker 4: there as if these people care or as if these
Speaker 4: people can support you and bringing them into your personal life.
Speaker 4: I'm like, ray J, please just don't do it, and
Speaker 4: he's like, you know, I know. But sometimes I just
Speaker 4: be happy to let people know because people trying to
Speaker 4: play with me and I ain't playing. And I said,
Speaker 4: I get what you're saying, but still still it's not
Speaker 4: a real place. So I was happy to see my
Speaker 4: brother and much love to him. I know myself sometimes
Speaker 4: I want to just turn the camera on and go
Speaker 4: because it's so many different things and people saying this
Speaker 4: and saying that, and everybody know more than you will
Speaker 4: box your business and you know, and I'm sure as
Speaker 4: he tries to climb and be successful in what he's doing,
Speaker 4: it always feels like it's somebody or some force pulling
Speaker 4: and shifting us in different directions and working against us.
Speaker 4: And I was thinking, like to you know, today, my
Speaker 4: thought of the day for everybody who's listening is that
Speaker 4: the internet is not your friend.
Speaker 1: The people on the internet.
Speaker 4: You can talk to them when you need to try
Speaker 4: to help to galvanize.
Speaker 1: People, but to think that these folks.
Speaker 4: Are a part of your healing process, or that they
Speaker 4: are a part of your support system, that is not
Speaker 4: who they are. They literally sent to trol you and
Speaker 4: to judge you and to find ways to pick, nitpick
Speaker 4: and destroy you. And the Internet holds everything in the database.
Speaker 4: So in the next however many days, years, months, years,
Speaker 4: or sometime, they will remind you in the midst of
Speaker 4: another thing, about this other thing that happened to you
Speaker 4: some time ago that you moved on from. So the
Speaker 4: Internet it's not a real place to me, It's really not.
Speaker 4: I think it should be used as a tool, but
Speaker 4: it is definitely not a place to think that is
Speaker 4: for your friends.
Speaker 3: Well, you know what I would say, I don't think
Speaker 3: ray J thinks it's a place for your friends. I
Speaker 3: think RAYJ is trying to capitalize. I think when you
Speaker 3: look at the new venture he has, you know what
Speaker 3: the network he has, what that network is based on
Speaker 3: RAYJ he created. Now he has like a news platform
Speaker 3: where he talks about the news, and he talks about
Speaker 3: the most relationous things, and he creates viral moments. And
Speaker 3: I think ray J is intentionally doing it so he
Speaker 3: knows how to play like is not intentional.
Speaker 2: He knows how to play like.
Speaker 3: He's really angry on this, but he's figured out just
Speaker 3: like the Zeus Network is I forgot the name of
Speaker 3: his his network, but he's creating a network that that
Speaker 3: rivals the Zeus Network, which they the Baddies and they
Speaker 3: got all these fights and they got everything from the
Speaker 3: Internet and all types of stuff.
Speaker 2: So that's what ray J is doing.
Speaker 3: So when I look at it, people like Reyj is
Speaker 3: bugget No, ray J is very smart. Ray J is
Speaker 3: intentionally creating you know, content, content like they said, they said,
Speaker 3: so everything is content. Ray J is creating content so
Speaker 3: people can talk about it, so then he can he
Speaker 3: can shift it over to his channel and he can make.
Speaker 1: Money the Tronics Network. And I and I hear you.
Speaker 4: Because you know, certainly he's like, you know, I'm fine,
Speaker 4: you know, I'm I'm working through what people think they
Speaker 4: want to play with me.
Speaker 1: I'm not playing this and that I get it.
Speaker 4: And I hear what you're saying that he definitely as
Speaker 4: a business person, he knows how to troll the Internet
Speaker 4: just the way people know how to troll him.
Speaker 1: And it all builds a moment. But I also see
Speaker 1: the pain.
Speaker 4: I see it, you know, I can see where there
Speaker 4: are days when he's just frustrating and hurting and going
Speaker 4: through things just like the rest of us.
Speaker 1: And the thing is the tool you.
Speaker 4: Use for most of your communication, you also find yourself
Speaker 4: using it in moments when you really are hurting. So
Speaker 4: if you're a person that sits there and you drink
Speaker 4: a lot, you scroll a lot, you drug a lot,
Speaker 4: you watch pouring a lot, you cry a lot, you
Speaker 4: talk a lot, you fight a lot, whatever it is
Speaker 4: that you do regularly. So if it's trolling and that's
Speaker 4: what you do when you're hurting or you're going through things,
Speaker 4: you can find yourself also in that mode. And so
Speaker 4: what I'm just saying because already we he and I
Speaker 4: already talk, then you know he loves to debate, and
Speaker 4: so that's another thing that we give from him all
Speaker 4: the time. But I wanted to but I also wanted
Speaker 4: him to know that I feel when I'm watching it
Speaker 4: that it's not just trolling to build a network, But
Speaker 4: there's also some issues of pain that you deal with
Speaker 4: from different things being creative, having people you know, either
Speaker 4: not believe in your dream or think that you number
Speaker 4: two to somebody else or whatever that you also have
Speaker 4: are fighting against. And I just and I know that
Speaker 4: that happens to all of us in different ways. And
Speaker 4: so I was just saying to people who are out there,
Speaker 4: like and to him, and to myself, and definitely to
Speaker 4: you and to our next guest that's coming up, that
Speaker 4: the Internet is just it's not a real place. Like
Speaker 4: it's just not you know, it's not. I watch people
Speaker 4: break from trying to go up against people on the
Speaker 4: Internet all day trying to make their point.
Speaker 1: And you can never ever ever make your.
Speaker 4: Point to something that is designed literally designed to pick
Speaker 4: away and pick aparture point. And so you could argue
Speaker 4: in the comments section all day, all day, all day,
Speaker 4: you control, you could talk, you could this, that and
Speaker 4: the third. But there are people who have nothing to
Speaker 4: do that will argue back more than you.
Speaker 1: Can communicate with them.
Speaker 4: And you find yourself spending so much time trying to
Speaker 4: make this thing work and end up taking away a
Speaker 4: lot of time from working what you're supposed to be working.
Speaker 1: So that's just my phones.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't, I don't. I don't say that
Speaker 3: you're wrong. I believe to a certain degree that pretty
Speaker 3: much is not. And I say this all the time.
Speaker 3: You know, a lot of stuff has been going on
Speaker 3: in the Internet lately.
Speaker 2: You know people.
Speaker 3: You know, I was going to actually make that my
Speaker 3: daughter the day, I mean, my I don't get it,
Speaker 3: but you brought it up. So I think we need
Speaker 3: to have a deeper conversation about this, you know, and
Speaker 3: and really just talk about the internet because people are
Speaker 3: bringing their personal issues to their you know, family issues,
Speaker 3: this every people are bringing every bit of their issues
Speaker 3: to it. So is it is it useful? Is it progressive?
Speaker 3: Is it more beneficial? Like I don't I don't know.
Speaker 3: You know, I come from a school of where, you know,
Speaker 3: we we we we kept our personal business within the household,
Speaker 3: within the people that knew about it. We didn't put
Speaker 3: we didn't even take our personal business to our friends
Speaker 3: in the streets.
Speaker 2: So now when you when you're bringing.
Speaker 3: Your personal bringing people who don't know you or don't
Speaker 3: care about you into your home, into your bedroom, into
Speaker 3: your life, into your kid's life, you know, I don't
Speaker 3: know if that's I don't know if that's something that's okay.
Speaker 3: People seem that it seems to be like a normal
Speaker 3: thing these days.
Speaker 5: Away.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think that's a new norm.
Speaker 3: And I think, you know, as much as it bothers us,
Speaker 3: people have you know, people have gravitated to this new
Speaker 3: style of communication and new you know, they've normalized this
Speaker 3: new thing. So I don't know. I don't know if
Speaker 3: in the long one is it does it? Is it healthy?
Speaker 3: Is it good for you? You know, I don't think
Speaker 3: it's good for me.
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't think nobody that I don't know or don't
Speaker 3: care about me should have access to information about my
Speaker 3: personal life. I just don't think so, because now they're
Speaker 3: able to utilize that and bring it up and do
Speaker 3: all types of things with it, and I'm at a disadvantage.
Speaker 4: But you know, in your comment section every day we
Speaker 4: should get to our guests, But in your comment section
Speaker 4: every day, I see people like, no matter what the
Speaker 4: true story is, oh, you rob the cab driver, and
Speaker 4: they know. They know because they've read, they've seen, they've
Speaker 4: heard other people talk about what happened in that situation.
Speaker 4: People know very well, Like community people who live in
Speaker 4: the area where this took place, are very clear. All
Speaker 4: of your friends and everybody knows that you didn't rob
Speaker 4: the cab driver. But just because the narrative is out there,
Speaker 4: because people know about it, they're gonna constantly try to
Speaker 4: use it. To prick at your emotions, and you have
Speaker 4: gotten much better. But there was a point where you
Speaker 4: would be like, fuck are they talking about you know?
Speaker 4: And I've gone through that as well in different ways, Like,
Speaker 4: you know, the worst thing in the world at one point,
Speaker 4: I don't deal with that now, was for people to
Speaker 4: come in my comments section and be like, oh, you're
Speaker 4: an anti Semite. It's like, that was horrible for people
Speaker 4: to say that about me, knowing it wasn't true, knowing
Speaker 4: that you know, I don't.
Speaker 1: It just was a lot of factors, you know that.
Speaker 4: So anyway, I have to tell when I'm saying this,
Speaker 4: because like I told you, I loved ray J deeply,
Speaker 4: and you know, I just watch him and I love
Speaker 4: to see how.
Speaker 1: Smart he is.
Speaker 4: You said that he's like brilliant, and you could tell
Speaker 4: just by the way he moves, the way he talks,
Speaker 4: his business acumen and all of that. I love that.
Speaker 4: So I ain't talking about just him. It just was
Speaker 4: a thought that came to me from my conversation with him,
Speaker 4: to minister to myself that these people on this thing,
Speaker 4: they're not the people I'm really actually trying to talk to. Actually,
Speaker 4: we have to spend a little bit more time in
Speaker 4: this season with all of the loss around us, trying
Speaker 4: to get closer to the people who we can actually touch,
Speaker 4: the people we really do know.
Speaker 3: So today, so now we come to my music segment,
Speaker 3: you know, and this music segment is where I find
Speaker 3: a song that I feel is just so relevant right now.
Speaker 2: And we've been talking.
Speaker 3: About the Internet today and it's crazy that we were
Speaker 3: talking about the Internet, and my new song Internet Niggas
Speaker 3: is for you.
Speaker 2: Internet Niggas's talking about all of.
Speaker 3: The people on the Internet that come into the comments,
Speaker 3: that talk crazy, They make threats, they talk about your mama,
Speaker 3: they say they gonna kill you, they say the worst
Speaker 3: thing in.
Speaker 2: Your DMS all day from am to pm.
Speaker 3: With no life at all, and if you're not smart enough,
Speaker 3: they'll actually have you going back and forth with them.
Speaker 3: So this song right here, Internet Niggas shout out to
Speaker 3: my brother Jose aka brons Logo, who is in the
Speaker 3: studio with me like last night, that loves this song
Speaker 3: and he's like, you should be naming Everybody'm like, no,
Speaker 3: I'm not naming it because you're giving these people too
Speaker 3: much credit. So I just want to call y'all the
Speaker 3: Internet niggas that y'all are. So make sure that y'all
Speaker 3: go to my YouTube page and listen to Internet Niggas.
Speaker 3: We're about to have it on all platforms. We're gonna
Speaker 3: make this the theme song for the Internet. The Killers,
Speaker 3: the Internet killers we call them, computer shooters, the tweet bards,
Speaker 3: the Internet gangsters, all of y'all. This song is for you.
Speaker 3: We appreciate what you. Want you to know how much
Speaker 3: we appreciate you. We don't believe you, but we appreciate you.
Speaker 2: Internet Niggs.
Speaker 1: Y'all'll just be y'all, ain't have nothing better to do?
Speaker 2: Oh no, this we had to, but this was the
Speaker 2: best thing we could.
Speaker 1: Have did y'all have anything better do?
Speaker 4: But if y'all check in with me, I can give
Speaker 4: you plenty of work because we got a whole lot
Speaker 4: of stuff to do. Keep you and Brother Bron's logo.
Speaker 2: Oh this work, Oh this is work.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I bet it is.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say that you were ex sizing your voice,
Speaker 4: you know, remembering, getting your skills, keeping your skills up.
Speaker 1: They say, if you don't use it, you'll lose it.
Speaker 2: This is one of my favorite songs.
Speaker 3: Internet Niggas, the best not Internet, the Internet whatever.
Speaker 4: Coming up next is our guest, Trade of Truth. He
Speaker 4: has a pretty sad situation going on. I'll talk about brother,
Speaker 4: our friend, our friend. I'll talk a little bit about
Speaker 4: what's happening in Trade's life. That's next, all right, So
Speaker 4: today our brother has joined us, and I am it
Speaker 4: is like a deeply personal, painful time but also very
Speaker 4: happy to have our brother joining us because he hasn't
Speaker 4: been with us this year.
Speaker 1: I don't think it may maybe so, but certainly not enough.
Speaker 4: We haven't all been able to really spend the type
Speaker 4: of time that we need to spend together. And so
Speaker 4: I'm happy to have you here today, Trey. I know
Speaker 4: that my song would say the same. But also the
Speaker 4: circumstances for which we come together are definitely stressful, painful,
Speaker 4: and and so there's that going on, and so I
Speaker 4: wanted to just make sure to acknowledge that.
Speaker 1: And also for those of you who may not.
Speaker 4: Know who Trade is, Trade the Truth, our brother from Houston, Texas,
Speaker 4: who also who was also an international leader and humanitarian
Speaker 4: and artist, musical map what do you call it?
Speaker 1: Musical genius.
Speaker 4: I've never met anybody that can do a whole album
Speaker 4: in two or three days and it actually.
Speaker 1: Be like real good music.
Speaker 4: But these brothers they diss the type of stuff that
Speaker 4: my song and Trade do. And so TREYE we met
Speaker 4: some years ago and started working together on justice issues,
Speaker 4: fighting for Breonna Taylor and others. And from the first
Speaker 4: day we became family. He and I, brother and sister,
Speaker 4: my son and him brothers. And it has not waivered
Speaker 4: one bit since day one. And so during this time,
Speaker 4: while Trey is dealing with something that many of you
Speaker 4: know about. You've seen it, you read it, you heard it,
Speaker 4: you know, we wanted to invite him to come to
Speaker 4: a family space, to have a dialogue about what's happening,
Speaker 4: and to really helped to clear up some concerns that
Speaker 4: I see a lot of people have about what is
Speaker 4: taking place with his daughter Truth, who is our Nisi
Speaker 4: Poo when she's in the mood to be Nisi pooh
Speaker 4: because she's just like her daddy. And so so I'm
Speaker 4: glad to have you here. Trade, Thank you so much
Speaker 4: for joining us, Trade of Truth.
Speaker 5: How you're doing, how you're doing praise.
Speaker 2: I love you, man. I just want to let you know, man, love.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So listen, Trade, So you know, well, people have recently,
Speaker 4: Oh my god, what's going on with this technology today?
Speaker 1: Hold on a second, y'all. I just lost y'all. What's
Speaker 1: going on? Too much going on on this computer?
Speaker 4: So listen, Tray. So recently people have learned about something
Speaker 4: that we've been knowing about for many, many many years
Speaker 4: actually probably all of Truth's life. I think we met
Speaker 4: when Truth was like months or maybe one years old.
Speaker 4: And for all of these years, we've been knowing about
Speaker 4: the challenges that you have had as a father in
Speaker 4: that situation. And people know a little bit here and
Speaker 4: there throughout the years you've kind of led on to,
Speaker 4: you know, some of the challenges that you were facing,
Speaker 4: you and her mother, and so folks kind of are
Speaker 4: always look out to see like when it's Truth gonna
Speaker 4: be there. You haven't seen her for a while, you know,
Speaker 4: it's been several months. We don't see Truth, and she's
Speaker 4: back and so we know that. But you have been very,
Speaker 4: very very private about the depth of everything that has
Speaker 4: been happening, and really have gone to great extent not
Speaker 4: to talk about this latest incident. And so recently you
Speaker 4: decided that after so long of not seeing Truth, which
Speaker 4: she is supposed to be with you because you were
Speaker 4: granted full custody of her some months back.
Speaker 1: I think around June first she was supposed to be with.
Speaker 4: You, and then you know she hasn't been there, and
Speaker 4: therefore you decided it was time to talk to folks,
Speaker 4: not just to gossip about it or to give people
Speaker 4: gossip rather, but more so because you really are looking
Speaker 4: for people who can help if they see if they
Speaker 4: know they have the where about some truth. You're really
Speaker 4: really doing the work to try to figure out where
Speaker 4: your daughter is. And so I know that that's very
Speaker 4: painful for you to have people to know the depth
Speaker 4: of what's been happening. And I just wanted to say,
Speaker 4: first off, I'm sorry that you had to expose this
Speaker 4: because we've been talking about for months should you say something,
Speaker 4: when should you say things?
Speaker 1: And you chose not to, So that's one.
Speaker 4: I just want to put that out there for people
Speaker 4: who may not really understand. And I'll just go ahead
Speaker 4: and ask you. You know, since truth has been you
Speaker 4: know you haven't seen her for a while, I just
Speaker 4: wanted to know, like, when was the last time that
Speaker 4: you saw her, and what were the circumstances for the
Speaker 4: last time that you were with her.
Speaker 6: My last time saying my baby was August sixteenth, her
Speaker 6: mother came for a visit, you know, because and the
Speaker 6: correct you I had primary custody was means we both
Speaker 6: had custody, but truth was under I was. I was
Speaker 6: fully responsible for truth at the time. And she still
Speaker 6: would get the visitation on the weekends and summer and
Speaker 6: different holidays. It's kind of the road switch to everything
Speaker 6: that I went through for the first five years. I
Speaker 6: took her to the north side of Houston to drop
Speaker 6: off to her mom. My mom called like, hey, I'm
Speaker 6: gonna be in town. I want to exercise my visit.
Speaker 6: Can you Well, at first she was supposed to pick up,
Speaker 6: and then she asked me because I drop off, I
Speaker 6: ended up dropping off and you know, my mom, I'm
Speaker 6: not thinking another It's like, okay, cool, it's Friday, I'll
Speaker 6: see you someday.
Speaker 5: You know. We was getting prepared.
Speaker 6: For her to go to school and everything else, and
Speaker 6: once I dropped off, I've never seen that again.
Speaker 3: Hmm. So how you know, people may just think that
Speaker 3: this started, like how long have you actually what was
Speaker 3: the process you know for you to get you that?
Speaker 3: Because I know you you're very you know, a stand up individual.
Speaker 3: And I know you it wasn't your first thing, like,
Speaker 3: you know what, I'm just gonna go get primary custody.
Speaker 3: I know you wanted to do it, but what was
Speaker 3: the process that made you feel like, you know, I
Speaker 3: need to make sure that I have primary customer.
Speaker 6: I think, man, just everything that I've experienced, and honestly,
Speaker 6: you you actually hit it right on the nail. I
Speaker 6: was never going to seek custody. You know what I'm
Speaker 6: saying that I was strictly on stop keeping my baby
Speaker 6: away from me.
Speaker 5: Every year.
Speaker 6: You know, some years, some years it'll be two three
Speaker 6: months I go without seeing truth.
Speaker 5: The next one that may be six months.
Speaker 6: And I was just I was tied, bro, And it
Speaker 6: was like I was, I did everything that needs to do,
Speaker 6: and it's hard following. You know, you got to follow
Speaker 6: the court order where you have somebody telling you what
Speaker 6: to do how to do it. But I never I
Speaker 6: never went off the path of what was set for
Speaker 6: us to do. And the thing was, it's like I
Speaker 6: finally got to a point where I think, right before
Speaker 6: we went to trial, we had a mediation and my
Speaker 6: my thing was we gotta ube out of court order
Speaker 6: if my child gets kept away from me again, you
Speaker 6: gotta be here responsible. And they didn't want to do it.
Speaker 6: They were like, well, we'll go to trial. And when
Speaker 6: we went to trial, with everything that didn't happened over
Speaker 6: the past six years, everything all the chances that were given,
Speaker 6: the judge felt it was in the best interest for
Speaker 6: me to have custody.
Speaker 3: Now, well, basically what you're saying is that before this
Speaker 3: even a trial, you just went to the mediation and said, listen,
Speaker 3: I just want to be able to have my daughter
Speaker 3: to days that I'm supposed to have a I don't
Speaker 3: want to go through no issues with you. I just
Speaker 3: want you to you know, when it's my holidays, but
Speaker 3: it's my weekend, when it's my week whatever, it's my time.
Speaker 3: I just want to just that. Just just don't be
Speaker 3: anything to prohibit that. And I don't and I don't.
Speaker 3: We don't even got to go to trial. If you could,
Speaker 3: if you could just say that, if you can honestly
Speaker 3: just agree to that, then we.
Speaker 2: Don't have to do none of this.
Speaker 6: Yeah, So what happened was and keep in mind that
Speaker 6: wasn't the first mediation. That was the mediation right before
Speaker 6: try because remember I've been fighting for truth almost six years,
Speaker 6: so that mediation was right at the top of this year.
Speaker 6: So I think I I want to say I ended
Speaker 6: up getting custody of truth.
Speaker 5: Maybe March.
Speaker 6: I have to really look at the date, but it
Speaker 6: was at the top of the year, and the thing
Speaker 6: was just not to interfere and to stop just doing
Speaker 6: the things that was getting done to me, you know.
Speaker 6: And I'm not only hit the basher, So I really
Speaker 6: try and stray away from going in depth, you know,
Speaker 6: because at the end of the day, it's still my
Speaker 6: daughter's mother. But a lot of things were done, and
Speaker 6: I like, at that point, man, just don't interfere with
Speaker 6: all trying to do is be a father, you know
Speaker 6: what I mean.
Speaker 5: Fathers out here.
Speaker 6: Will stay down the street from their child and won't
Speaker 6: drive up the street, don't even drive by the house
Speaker 6: to see if they child outside playing. You're talking to
Speaker 6: somebody who would fly every weekend or every couple of
Speaker 6: weeks and literally sit at the airport and my baby
Speaker 6: never show up, and I still would come back next time.
Speaker 6: I mean, it will happen again, So you know, I
Speaker 6: just you get to a point where like one that's
Speaker 6: a girl, a girl definitely need to be protected at
Speaker 6: all times, especially with everything that black women go through,
Speaker 6: black kids, black girls, you know, even just girls in general.
Speaker 6: You got all kinds of crazy people out here that
Speaker 6: do uncool stuff keys, you know, And I feel like, man,
Speaker 6: I'm here, I'm blessed. God got me moving on them.
Speaker 6: I'm standing on both feet. I'm gonna protect my child.
Speaker 4: So you mentioned flying, and I just want to because
Speaker 4: there are people out here. I posted the missing person
Speaker 4: flyer or whatever we want to call it, notice, the notice,
Speaker 4: listen person's notice, and there were people in my comment
Speaker 4: section who, by the way, some of them I truly understand,
Speaker 4: because it is our first instinct, especially as women, but
Speaker 4: men also to just think that, well, a mother is
Speaker 4: supposed to be with her child, and she should be right. Absolutely,
Speaker 4: a mother should be with their child. You know, I
Speaker 4: would do anything. I would fight. He used his money
Speaker 4: and his resources to take truth away from her, and
Speaker 4: it's not cool. There's some people who are in the
Speaker 4: comment section who are talking about, oh, well he did,
Speaker 4: are dirty and whatever, And I said, as a woman,
Speaker 4: I can imagine, and I'm not even going to go
Speaker 4: down that road with you, because regardless of what happened,
Speaker 4: in your relationship. But she could tell me anything. She
Speaker 4: could come to me and say, oh, he did this
Speaker 4: and he did that, and I might be like, Okay,
Speaker 4: that's pop. That could be true, right. Because I'm a woman,
Speaker 4: I know what I've experienced, and so our first instinct
Speaker 4: is to always.
Speaker 1: Say, well, what is this about?
Speaker 4: And why would anybody be trying to take a child
Speaker 4: from their mother?
Speaker 1: And you're gonna fight for it.
Speaker 4: There's some people who are truly believer in my comments
Speaker 4: because they know her and they have what they believe
Speaker 4: to be a story that they want to try to
Speaker 4: spread to make this situation justify. But the reason why
Speaker 4: I've been so adamant about supporting you and why I'm
Speaker 4: speaking on this now is because I have literally been
Speaker 4: on the phone with you when you get off of
Speaker 4: a flight to pick truth up and hours go by
Speaker 4: and she does not show up with the baby, and
Speaker 4: then you will leave broken hearted and fly back again
Speaker 4: the next time you're supposed to pick her up, regardless
Speaker 4: of whether you spoke to her or not, because the
Speaker 4: court told you that this is what you're supposed to do,
Speaker 4: and you have been trying to make sure that you
Speaker 4: go by the book in terms of exactly what they say,
Speaker 4: you do it not just to show the court, but
Speaker 4: also to make sure that she mom and daughter knows
Speaker 4: that I am going to be consistently here. So I
Speaker 4: just want folks to know it's not a question. I
Speaker 4: just want people to know that I didn't just wake
Speaker 4: up one day and say, oh, Tray as my friend
Speaker 4: and I just want to go, you know, defend him,
Speaker 4: regardless of what I've literally been a part of watching
Speaker 4: the details of this thing and how it has happened.
Speaker 4: And I think that for people who will say, well,
Speaker 4: you know, he did this to her, or he left her,
Speaker 4: or he didn't stay with her or whatever the hell,
Speaker 4: regardless of how relationships go, the use of a child
Speaker 4: as a weapon, it's something that we have been taught
Speaker 4: as women who come from good households, that it is
Speaker 4: a cardinal sin, like it is literally a sin to
Speaker 4: use a child as a weapon because you were upset
Speaker 4: about what happened in the relationship. So I just want
Speaker 4: to say that, and I want you to talk about
Speaker 4: because there are people who think that when you got
Speaker 4: primary custody, which I've been calling full custody. So thank
Speaker 4: you for correcting me that you did not want truth
Speaker 4: to see her mother at all.
Speaker 1: That that was it. She was separated from my mother.
Speaker 6: So first and foremost what they got to understand is
Speaker 6: the dynamics of the relationship with me and you. We
Speaker 6: not yes, me and each other. We don't even respect
Speaker 6: that type stuff. So for those watching at times when
Speaker 6: I have other situations going on, and there'd be a
Speaker 6: lot of stuff that just go on to life in general,
Speaker 6: it's a Millian things to me are going to be like, nah,
Speaker 6: I'm not with that, and not Trey. I don't think
Speaker 6: that's what that should be. And you know, any real
Speaker 6: person that genuinely love somebody's always gonna speak up. They
Speaker 6: never gonna be okay, whatever you want to do, I'm
Speaker 6: just gonna support it, you know. And even though you're
Speaker 6: gonna support family and family. But right is right, wrong
Speaker 6: is wrong. Like even if it's a situation where you
Speaker 6: had a new born right now and you was doing
Speaker 6: the exact same thing, I'd be the person Tea you,
Speaker 6: I ain't down with that to me, because that's you
Speaker 6: out of line for that. And I mean, as family,
Speaker 6: we gotta respect that. And that's just what that is.
Speaker 6: When you go to talking about the money and the
Speaker 6: other stuff. Right, I had money before truth was born.
Speaker 6: And I said this yesterday when I was talking to somebody.
Speaker 6: If it was about the money, do you think I
Speaker 6: would have went through the pain, the truma and everything
Speaker 6: I went through for six years straight, I would have
Speaker 6: instantly got custody in my baby the first day we
Speaker 6: went to court and went on about my business if
Speaker 6: it was about money.
Speaker 5: Because what people.
Speaker 6: Don't know is for the first five years in court
Speaker 6: and then when they go to tall lawyers, I was
Speaker 6: damn they get my ass hand to me by lawyer,
Speaker 6: and when they talk about lawyers, I would come in
Speaker 6: there with my same lawyers. She would have three lawyers
Speaker 6: at a time sometimes and she went through multiple lawyers.
Speaker 6: So it's not a case of I got high in
Speaker 6: lawyers because technically every firm she had, minus maybe one,
Speaker 6: was all top firms.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. That's not even a go
Speaker 5: as far as in dept with it.
Speaker 6: But the point being is I did everything which was
Speaker 6: the hardest, to stay focused on that court order, don't
Speaker 6: mess up, and do my part as a father.
Speaker 5: That's what led to me ended up getting custody. Because
Speaker 5: we all.
Speaker 6: What shall I say as a mother, right, she was
Speaker 6: given a lot of chances, and I think they finally
Speaker 6: got to a point where they were just fed up,
Speaker 6: like no, because right now you're moving for you. You're
Speaker 6: not moving for the best interest of the child and
Speaker 6: for the court. It's all about the best interest of
Speaker 6: the child. If I'm moving wrong, then that be on me.
Speaker 6: If she moving wrong, that be on herself. For five years,
Speaker 6: they gave her chances. And you know, to me, I
Speaker 6: was heartbroke every single not only me, my kids were
Speaker 6: heartbroke this whole time.
Speaker 5: And they made.
Speaker 1: It really difficult for you, very difficult.
Speaker 5: I'm talking man, Do you know what it is?
Speaker 4: Because they knew you had money, so they forced you
Speaker 4: to pay for plane tickets every time you were supposed
Speaker 4: to pick her.
Speaker 1: Up back and forth.
Speaker 5: Let me give your example. No fathers.
Speaker 6: It's fathers that may have went through, but they didn't
Speaker 6: go to it through it through the extent that I did.
Speaker 6: Imagine when it got to a point because we had
Speaker 6: two weeks, she would get two weeks. I would get
Speaker 6: two weeks. Sometimes it may be three weeks before I
Speaker 6: get my two weeks. But she enrolled truth in school early,
Speaker 6: so that cut all my time. So at that point,
Speaker 6: I no longer get my weeks. So Truth started school early,
Speaker 6: which that took away my time. So it got to
Speaker 6: a point where I get the first, third, and fifth weekend.
Speaker 6: It's not that many fifth weekends and throughout the year,
Speaker 6: but every weekend I was having about six flights. I
Speaker 6: would fly there, fly me in Truth back, fly me
Speaker 6: in Truth back to where she is, and fly back home.
Speaker 6: You cannot imagine what the price of six flights every
Speaker 6: visitation that I got, and I was moving making sure
Speaker 6: I was there regardless even some of them flights I made,
Speaker 6: if Truth don't even show up, I still had to
Speaker 6: pay for that, you know what I'm saying. So nobody
Speaker 6: knows everything that I went through for six years or
Speaker 6: should I say five now? I mean because she's six now,
Speaker 6: so everything under the six year limit that I went through.
Speaker 5: And this experienced just as being the father.
Speaker 6: So you know, like even I knew when I put
Speaker 6: it on social media that you can it's to the
Speaker 6: public now, you know what I'm saying. But I was
Speaker 6: forced to do that because even then, the results of
Speaker 6: when she first went missing to now it's no different.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, so now, the only thing
Speaker 6: I can do is pray to God, put it publicly
Speaker 6: and hope God put the right people in position that
Speaker 6: may see her at the right time, or that may
Speaker 6: know something that can get Truth back to where she belonged.
Speaker 4: You know, you know, answer the question of were you
Speaker 4: trying to what was a part of your plan to
Speaker 4: keep Truth from seeing her mother at all?
Speaker 1: And just you and your family have her.
Speaker 6: Only so so that was never part of the plan,
Speaker 6: even in the midst of everything I was going through.
Speaker 5: It's not a soul on earth that would say different.
Speaker 6: That'll tell you, even when I was feeling how I
Speaker 6: was feeling towards what we had going on, I would
Speaker 6: still make sure Truth called them when Truth was with me.
Speaker 6: I would make sure Truth even if Truth wanted to
Speaker 6: be bothered or not. You're going to at least take
Speaker 6: the time to reach out to your mama, at least
Speaker 6: let her know you breathe and say what you're saying.
Speaker 6: If you want to get out the phone and play cool,
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. So I've always been very
Speaker 6: very serious to that point. But then it gets to
Speaker 6: a point where it gets scary, right because it's like
Speaker 6: now it's to a point that truths getting older, truths
Speaker 6: doing things that I'm not used to, and she's being
Speaker 6: She's being led and told things that can be heartbreaking
Speaker 6: to another parent. You know, the one thing about me
Speaker 6: I've never spoke negative to. I don't even really talk
Speaker 6: the truth about our mama.
Speaker 5: Pid.
Speaker 6: You know, other than you know you need to call it.
Speaker 6: You know you need to do this. Other than that,
Speaker 6: I keep it. I keep it separate, so you know,
Speaker 6: to have conversation with my baby. When my baby first
Speaker 6: come back and my baby tell me, well, it's because
Speaker 6: of you, I'm not gonna see my friends or my
Speaker 6: real family in LA and my mommy, And it's like,
Speaker 6: who told you that? One of them? Your daddy. I
Speaker 6: can fly if you want to see your friends. I
Speaker 6: beating the fool of you there. I flew them here, Like,
Speaker 6: don't let nobody tell you that. And you're real family.
Speaker 6: You got family in Houston and LA. So we got
Speaker 6: to get that out of your brain. It's no such
Speaker 6: thing or what's real family or what's more important family?
Speaker 6: Because your siblings are here, your brothers are here, they
Speaker 6: mean just as much to you as any other family
Speaker 6: you got so I'm real big on everything that I
Speaker 6: was going through. I still always spoke highly to where
Speaker 6: I don't put those type of things in my daughter head.
Speaker 6: But for the most part, it is just at this
Speaker 6: point it's scary.
Speaker 5: It's like.
Speaker 6: I never would have thought that me and truth both
Speaker 6: would have to be in therapy, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 6: And when it gets to points like that, and you
Speaker 6: just experience the stuff that I experienced, and even seeing
Speaker 6: what she's going through now, my child is living pillar
Speaker 6: a post like she don't have she's not in school,
Speaker 6: she has no way to contact me even if she's
Speaker 6: going through it and need help. I can't even be
Speaker 6: the protect or provide cor So at that point it's like, hey,
Speaker 6: I gotta do what's best for my child, you know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, And right now, what's best for my
Speaker 6: child is to get her here safely, get her in
Speaker 6: a stable environment, and get my daughter all the help
Speaker 6: she needs.
Speaker 2: Is really.
Speaker 3: It's touching, right, and it's real because you don't we
Speaker 3: don't speak about the issues.
Speaker 2: A lot of men, men.
Speaker 3: Like us, we don't talk about issues like this. We
Speaker 3: try to keep all of our stuff private. And you know,
Speaker 3: and like I said, I know you, and I know
Speaker 3: for you to take this step and be on social
Speaker 3: media with anything that's personal to you, it means that
Speaker 3: it's that serious, and it's so many and since you
Speaker 3: have done this, it's so many of my friends that
Speaker 3: go through the same thing that have been calling my
Speaker 3: phone like, Yo, I'm dealing with the exact same thing.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm trying to see my daughter. I'm trying
Speaker 2: to see my son, and she won't let me do this.
Speaker 3: And in a lot of times, the average individual says,
Speaker 3: fuck all that. You know, I'm not even I'm just
Speaker 3: you know what, the baby. This is too much stress.
Speaker 3: And and for me watching you understand how dedicated you are,
Speaker 3: just seeing you with your daughter, understanding how much you
Speaker 3: love that girl. You know what I'm saying, and and
Speaker 3: then going to of my comments, just listening to people,
Speaker 3: you know a lot of people, and it's such a
Speaker 3: it's such a double ledsed warl right, because if a
Speaker 3: woman was having the same issue, right, if a woman
Speaker 3: had put it and say, hey, the father took my
Speaker 3: son or my daughter, I haven't seen that, everybody would
Speaker 3: be like.
Speaker 2: No, that's crazy, we need to do this.
Speaker 3: I'm so sorry for you, but just listening to some
Speaker 3: of the people saying, oh, well, she's good with her mother,
Speaker 3: don't worry about that.
Speaker 2: What are he trying to take the daughter from the mother?
Speaker 3: Fork And it's like, why you don't think, you know
Speaker 3: that the father has the same rights, Why you don't
Speaker 3: feel like the father has the same you know, good
Speaker 3: intentions for his child. And it's like we're able to
Speaker 3: see it. It's actually pulling back layers of just dysfunction
Speaker 3: and just false narratives that's been created within the world
Speaker 3: about how fathers feel about their children, because we kid
Speaker 3: just as much about our kids as the mother does,
Speaker 3: you know, although people don't want to believe that, but
Speaker 3: we really feel the same way.
Speaker 6: And I think the thing is man, And I was
Speaker 6: real big on I didn't want to make this a
Speaker 6: mother father thing. It is a lot of fathers that
Speaker 6: go through this. And you have great mothers, you have
Speaker 6: great mothers, you have great fathers, you have bs mothers
Speaker 6: and dead be fathers too, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: And I think, honestly, man, I feel like God's using
Speaker 6: me for whichever way he had set for me, right
Speaker 6: because in my mind, I don't I didn't want this
Speaker 6: to the public. In my mind, it's you know how
Speaker 6: embarrassed and this is brouh I could bare the old
Speaker 6: conversations at times when I nice, as long as you
Speaker 6: been knowing me, ain't nobody ever seeing me cry. It's
Speaker 6: to the point now I can't stop it at times,
Speaker 6: you know, and I think God's using me to show
Speaker 6: people the human side of me, but also show people
Speaker 6: not to give up. Because it's some fathers out there
Speaker 6: that's classified dead beats that was just pushed to they limit.
Speaker 6: They don't have the resources the money to keep fighting.
Speaker 6: They just tap out. And even then I was still
Speaker 6: to tell them, hey, I'm not okay with that, because
Speaker 6: you don't need to tap out. Okay, it may you
Speaker 6: may not have the funds, you may not have the resources,
Speaker 6: but it's people out there that can give you, guys,
Speaker 6: and you just got to keep going through the the
Speaker 6: proper procedures because you have a lot of kids that
Speaker 6: end up in bad situations, whether it may be jail, death,
Speaker 6: anything that maybe would be in that situation that if
Speaker 6: they had access to the pan that's been alien that
Speaker 6: they moved around, they may gave them hope. Because a
Speaker 6: lot of kids you know, I take a lot of
Speaker 6: times they can get against the world. Man, my pop's here.
Speaker 6: He don't care for me. Nobody care for me. It's
Speaker 6: just about me and mine right now. And I can't
Speaker 6: fault them for that. But on the flip side, it's like, man,
Speaker 6: we got we got to we have to fight, and
Speaker 6: I feel like he using me to show, like, man,
Speaker 6: this man ain't stopping no matter what this is. He
Speaker 6: is gonna go till he gets his child back. And
Speaker 6: even after I get my child back, I'm gonna fight
Speaker 6: for lass. Well, we understand things need to be equal
Speaker 6: because some of the most hurtful stuff when it first happened,
Speaker 6: right was to hear them say, oh, well, you know
Speaker 6: that's a silver matter. We ain't getting involved, even if
Speaker 6: we was to catch the child with the parent they're
Speaker 6: not supposed to be in. We're not getting involved the
Speaker 6: child just with one of their parents. But what happens
Speaker 6: if they were one of their parents and something messed up,
Speaker 6: go wrong? You know what I'm saying, what you're gonna do.
Speaker 6: You're gonna tell them, oh, I'm so sorry that that
Speaker 6: that happened to your child.
Speaker 4: Well, let's be that something something messed up is going wrong.
Speaker 4: If a child is with a parent consistently or as
Speaker 4: consistent as possible for six years, the way that Truth
Speaker 4: has been with you, and all of a sudden they're gone.
Speaker 4: It's been months. They don't talk to you, can't have
Speaker 4: any communication with you. There has to be some storyline
Speaker 4: being told to this child about why there's no way
Speaker 4: that and we know, oh truth, Truth is like what
Speaker 4: happens to my dad?
Speaker 1: Where's my dad?
Speaker 4: And she's being told something to try to manage her
Speaker 4: not getting upset about it or whatever. Even if she
Speaker 4: is getting upset, that is called mental damaging. It is brainwashing,
Speaker 4: and it's mentally damaging. And by the time you get
Speaker 4: her back the work and I also have been a
Speaker 4: part of this. Every time Truth stayed away from you
Speaker 4: for long periods of time, when she came back, there
Speaker 4: was a lot of mental health support that you had
Speaker 4: to have to help her to get through trying to
Speaker 4: because she loves her mother, and she's supposed to love
Speaker 4: her mother.
Speaker 1: That's what she's supposed to love her mother. No one
Speaker 1: is taking that away.
Speaker 4: This conversation is about balancing that she also should have
Speaker 4: as much access to her father, who is a willing
Speaker 4: participant of the relationship as with her mother, and so
Speaker 4: to to have to choose between one parent is the
Speaker 4: worst thing that any parent can do to a child.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I feel like to me because it's at
Speaker 5: some point when you.
Speaker 6: As a parent, when you recognize what has to be
Speaker 6: best for your child, even if it's something that you
Speaker 6: like or something you don't like, it have to be done,
Speaker 6: you know. And I feel like even in the situation now,
Speaker 6: nobody's why everybody may put opinions, nobody's thinking of what
Speaker 6: I'm gonna have to deal with, right, I don't know
Speaker 6: what's being told of my daughter. I don't know how
Speaker 6: she's gonna act when she first see me. I don't
Speaker 6: know how she's gonna feel with the fact of the
Speaker 6: circumstances of what her mother's dealing with. I don't know
Speaker 6: how it's gonna be for me to have a conversation
Speaker 6: with her. I don't know what that's gonna be when
Speaker 6: she's not picking up the phone calling her mama every day.
Speaker 6: Like nobody understands the hard part that's gonna have to
Speaker 6: be dealt with, Like my child gonna have to be
Speaker 6: in there for a long time just to get her focused, comfortable,
Speaker 6: and get her functioning in the right way. Right now,
Speaker 6: my child like this a new norm for her moving
Speaker 6: house to house like that. As even if she was
Speaker 6: doing that with me, I would say that's not right,
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, because I'm not thinking for
Speaker 6: truth at the moment.
Speaker 5: I'm thinking for myself.
Speaker 6: Even let's just say, right, let's just say I wasn't
Speaker 6: able to wrap, I wasn't able to do none of
Speaker 6: the things I was doing, and it was just bad
Speaker 6: on me. You know, I would out me. I would
Speaker 6: be willing to minus all the situation going on. I
Speaker 6: would be willing to let my child stay with the
Speaker 6: other parents to put her in a better situation if
Speaker 6: that's what it's going to be. And in this case,
Speaker 6: you know, with truth, she's stayed with You know, I've
Speaker 6: done everything right. That's how I ended up getting custody.
Speaker 6: And you know, I'm gonna risk my life before anybody touched,
Speaker 6: looked the wrong way or harm my child. So at
Speaker 6: the end of the day, it should be about truth.
Speaker 6: I was talking, and I was saying, people fail to
Speaker 6: realize the goal when you come up in the hood
Speaker 6: and you come up in the struggle is to get up,
Speaker 6: get out pool as many as you can.
Speaker 5: But I also make.
Speaker 6: It to where your children never have to experience what
Speaker 6: you do. If you look at most people these days,
Speaker 6: most of the most of their kids, most of the
Speaker 6: some of the most gangsters, dude street dudes, most of
Speaker 6: the folest rappers.
Speaker 5: They kids are squaze. Why because we work hard to
Speaker 5: get them away from My child should never know what
Speaker 5: that is to have to ask somebody, hey, can you
Speaker 5: get me something to eat or any of that, when
Speaker 5: when I work hard to make sure my child will
Speaker 5: be provided for, and I feel like right now, it's
Speaker 5: just heartbreaking because I don't know what my child is thinking.
Speaker 6: I don't know how she's feeling. I don't know what
Speaker 6: she's going through. I don't know where she's sleeping. I
Speaker 6: don't know if she on somebody count, somebody floor. I
Speaker 6: don't know if one of their relatives being mean to
Speaker 6: my child at the moment. I don't know if an
Speaker 6: adult may say something rude. I don't know if a
Speaker 6: child bullying my child. I don't know if my child
Speaker 6: start And I can go down a long list of
Speaker 6: everything that I think of, and then when you watch
Speaker 6: people and they like ah, but still she with the
Speaker 6: mother like. One thing I can say is her mother's
Speaker 6: never experienced going a month without being able to talk
Speaker 6: to a child. Imagine I and when you tally up
Speaker 6: the time of how long truth been taking away from me,
Speaker 6: it's well over a year and a half. She ain't
Speaker 6: experienced that. That's not fair to no paying, It's not
Speaker 6: you know. And I don't want to keep going in
Speaker 6: depth because I said and when I do introw, it's
Speaker 6: strictly the uplift other parents and to help find my
Speaker 6: child is not to diss her, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: But we just were being transparent, like it's not okay.
Speaker 6: And to me, you know, you talk to me, y'all,
Speaker 6: try and get me out the room. Twenty and a
Speaker 6: half the time, I don't even want to leave my room.
Speaker 5: Now. I go out and I help people.
Speaker 6: And even when I'm helping people, people looking at me like,
Speaker 6: hey man, something ain't right with them, you know what
Speaker 6: I'm saying.
Speaker 5: And it's not that it's something bad. They just can
Speaker 5: tell they feel my pain.
Speaker 6: But on the flip side, I can't even when I
Speaker 6: go outside, if I was the smile, I feel guilty
Speaker 6: because it's like, I don't even feel right smiling, knowing
Speaker 6: I don't even know who my baby is. I don't
Speaker 6: know what my baby's going through, none of that type stuff.
Speaker 6: And then if you go deeper, most teenagers, right, you
Speaker 6: got high school kids. A lot of kids be whether
Speaker 6: they get on drugs, they being depression, suicide of everything.
Speaker 6: So imagine me looking on social media and seeing my
Speaker 6: son like, man, I'm sick of this. I just want
Speaker 6: to be able to hug my sister one more time.
Speaker 6: Of course, my kids are strong and they you know,
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna ever let them follow victim to something
Speaker 6: like that.
Speaker 5: But the flip side is.
Speaker 6: What if they was in the wrong environment on their
Speaker 6: own they telling you how they feel.
Speaker 2: It's everything.
Speaker 4: Everybody is impacted. Everybody is impacted, friends, family, everybody's impacted.
Speaker 4: And Tray, I look forward to the work that you
Speaker 4: will do for five is because like my son, I've
Speaker 4: received a number of people who have reached out to.
Speaker 1: Say, you know, I'm going through this.
Speaker 4: We have another friend right now who has been using
Speaker 4: what is a smaller platform. He's just a regular guy,
Speaker 4: you know, that is trying to.
Speaker 1: Tell the courts people.
Speaker 4: Anybody who will listen that what is happening with his
Speaker 4: child is wrong, you know, is wrong, and it's a
Speaker 4: similar thing mom moves. Child is separated. Dad is flying
Speaker 4: back and forth, paying for all of this travel back
Speaker 4: and forth and having to deal with the ramifications of that,
Speaker 4: and he does not have the resources that you have.
Speaker 4: And so we've been hearing from people, and I think
Speaker 4: the work that you intend to do in terms of
Speaker 4: trying to look at what do we do legally and
Speaker 4: politically to help dads is where it's really like everything
Speaker 4: that we experience is not being done to us before us.
Speaker 1: So I hope that.
Speaker 4: You can receive that and use it as fuel to
Speaker 4: do really really important work. And you are the type
Speaker 4: of person who could do this work because the men
Speaker 4: who suffer in silence, people.
Speaker 1: Who are you know, dudes that are like the real dudes.
Speaker 1: Y'all know who I'm talking about.
Speaker 4: I don't know y'all call them stand up dudes, but
Speaker 4: I don't know everybody's situation, So I can't call them
Speaker 4: stand up without knowing the details of what has happened.
Speaker 4: But I know that there are guys out here who
Speaker 4: definitely need help navigating their situations.
Speaker 1: And if they're wrong. They need to be told that
Speaker 1: as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just want to say this one. You know,
Speaker 3: it's my hope. You know, I don't know exactly what
Speaker 3: we can actually do, you know, hopefully you know through
Speaker 3: our podcast that we could just spread awareness, you know,
Speaker 3: but ultimately I would like to see you and the
Speaker 3: mother just figure out how do we make the best
Speaker 3: situation for truth.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 6: Ultimately I want to say this right and I tell
Speaker 6: people man like I'm learning, you know, with God's growth
Speaker 6: with a lot of things with me, and it's not
Speaker 6: easy with growing. At first, I was angry, bro, I
Speaker 6: just you know, I was just frustrated.
Speaker 5: To the max.
Speaker 6: But now you know what I do every day when
Speaker 6: I pray, I still pray for Mama. Whatever she's dealing with,
Speaker 6: He'll help her get through it. And once God feels
Speaker 6: the right time, then we'll start taking baby steps to
Speaker 6: try and figure it out. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 6: Because again, I don't want my child to only be
Speaker 6: with one pin. But I am gonna protect my child
Speaker 6: and make sure everything that needs to be done for
Speaker 6: her is dumb for her, to make sure her will
Speaker 6: of being and stuff. Because you got to understand when
Speaker 6: a person it's called alienating when a person keeps a
Speaker 6: child away to start grooming a child and not be
Speaker 6: around you that way, or tell children certain things. That's
Speaker 6: more that can be more damaging than you physically beating
Speaker 6: a child too. All that damage goes in at once.
Speaker 6: So sometimes when people don't understand that that is a
Speaker 6: problem and that's things that they do and that they
Speaker 6: shouldn't do, you have to pray and hope that they
Speaker 6: can get help, you know, And once they get that
Speaker 6: proper help, we're gonna figure it out. Because one thing
Speaker 6: about me, I love my daughter. Anything my daughter wants,
Speaker 6: she gonna get. So if that's a constant ask for
Speaker 6: her in that time, we're gonna figure out the way
Speaker 6: to get it done. But it's gonna be done right
Speaker 6: this time. I went through this six long years. Nobody
Speaker 6: can imagine the pain I'd have been to war with
Speaker 6: with dudes my whole life. I didn't been through everything
Speaker 6: you could think of. Ain't nothing broke me the way
Speaker 6: this situation broke me, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 6: I'm just I'm getting to a point now where I
Speaker 6: could finally talk where I don't be crying all the time,
Speaker 6: and I'm getting there. I'm learning to have faith and
Speaker 6: know that my child won't be back to me one day.
Speaker 6: It's just on God's time. So I'm just working for it.
Speaker 6: I'm working to do everything I can, and I'm still
Speaker 6: gonna continue to do his work. When I get out
Speaker 6: the phone with y'all, I'm literally going to a school.
Speaker 5: You know what we did.
Speaker 6: It's a lot of kids which I didn't I realized,
Speaker 6: but I didn't realize. It's a lot of kids that
Speaker 6: only able to eat when they at school for lunch.
Speaker 5: They don't have nothing else at home.
Speaker 6: So me and the Rockets Foundation we went yesterday bought
Speaker 6: up majority of stuff at Kroger's and we took over
Speaker 6: a classroom and created a grocery store so them and
Speaker 6: their families can come shopping and then for the holidays
Speaker 6: they'll have food and other stuff.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: So I'm still gonna be doing the work, which I
Speaker 6: work hard. Even with my kids around, they take part
Speaker 6: in that. Like when I go do stuff, Truth be
Speaker 6: right there along directing me, telling me what I need
Speaker 6: to do, what she likes and what she don't like.
Speaker 6: So you know, it's just gonna be a process.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 6: Only thing. The message that I want to get out
Speaker 6: there is one. If you see my baby, the proce them,
Speaker 6: don't bother the mama, don't do none of That's simply
Speaker 6: called nine one one or one of the agencies that
Speaker 6: can get me my child because we're just trying to
Speaker 6: find them. If you're a friend to a real friend,
Speaker 6: don't watch your friends crash out. You know right from wrong.
Speaker 6: Only thing I can ask you is put yourself in
Speaker 6: my shoes. What if that was your child? Would you
Speaker 6: want somebody to help you or would you want somebody
Speaker 6: to tell the person that took your child?
Speaker 5: Hey, you know what, this ain't right. I understand you hurt.
Speaker 6: I understand you may feel some way because it didn't
Speaker 6: go away this time. But at the end of the day,
Speaker 6: it's not about your feelings. It's about the best interests
Speaker 6: of the baby.
Speaker 4: That's it, you know. And I heard you, my son
Speaker 4: and what you said, And we do pray that the
Speaker 4: parents will be able to come together for the sake
Speaker 4: of truth and find a path to navigate through this.
Speaker 4: But I will say that if you are a friend
Speaker 4: who's out there listening and you know how to reach
Speaker 4: truth's mom or you're somehow in touch with her. The
Speaker 4: courts are a real problem because what happens with judges
Speaker 4: is that after a while they start saying, I don't
Speaker 4: really care what any of the parents have to say.
Speaker 4: Now I got a problem with you, you know, And
Speaker 4: that's what I think needs to be addressed, so that
Speaker 4: by the time they are able to they hit court again,
Speaker 4: they have worked things out, at least to the point
Speaker 4: where the courts might be like a little bit more
Speaker 4: conscious that. Okay, they look like they're trying to come together.
Speaker 4: But without that, I don't know what happens. Because it's
Speaker 4: a crime when you take a child and run, and
Speaker 4: so I just want all the people.
Speaker 5: I don't think it's such things breaking up.
Speaker 6: I don't think it's a such thing as kidnapping. That
Speaker 6: is a real thing. It is that like it doesn't
Speaker 6: matter which parent is. Like I've had people who gave
Speaker 6: me their stories and said that the father mayor came
Speaker 6: and got the child from school and they ain't seen
Speaker 6: their child in two or three years. Kidnapping, it's no way,
Speaker 6: it's no whey around it.
Speaker 1: Both parents. It is the law.
Speaker 4: The law I'm sure in all states but maybe the
Speaker 4: majority of states that you cannot even move out of
Speaker 4: the state with children without the other parent consenting to it.
Speaker 4: You cannot you can't get a passport for a child
Speaker 4: unless the other parent. Both parents can consent, or you
Speaker 4: have some kind of notarized documentation that shows that the
Speaker 4: parent is unable to be there sick or or incarceration
Speaker 4: or hasn't been around or whatever. There's rules that protect
Speaker 4: both parents. And so in this situation, again, I hope
Speaker 4: you get contacted and truth comes back to you without
Speaker 4: it having to go through the legal system. But right
Speaker 4: now that judge who made this decision is probably sitting
Speaker 4: there saying, people think, you know, I'm playing and I'm
Speaker 4: a judge, So what I say is what I say,
Speaker 4: and it didn't happen. And now there's that, there is
Speaker 4: that to deal with, and you know us, we don't
Speaker 4: like to go talk to the judge about nothing unless
Speaker 4: it's about why is hurting our people.
Speaker 6: And lastly, the thing that you know some of the
Speaker 6: people is trying to paint the narrative is, oh man,
Speaker 6: you want to get locked up, Like I don't think
Speaker 6: they really know what happens, Like if you take a
Speaker 6: child and you cross state lines, that's feed them.
Speaker 5: It don't matter who it is.
Speaker 6: Then, on top of that, when you go to playing
Speaker 6: with any type of court papers and them both courts
Speaker 6: converse with each other, that's going to be a problem.
Speaker 6: If a judge orders you to bring a child and
Speaker 6: you run, that's going to be a problem. So that
Speaker 6: part is out of my hands, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: I can't do nothing about that. At the end of
Speaker 6: the day, I can't do nothing but focus on truth.
Speaker 5: That's it.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you, Trey. We appreciate you for joining us.
Speaker 1: We love you.
Speaker 2: We're here for you, ma'am.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, we know we both know trade and
Speaker 3: we know how selfless he is. And you know, even
Speaker 3: in his time, he's talking about how he's going to
Speaker 3: schools and feeding you know, kids who might not have food.
Speaker 3: And we've seen him during hurricane season still out there
Speaker 3: helping people and going to the hospitals visiting elderly people.
Speaker 3: He's always, you know, doing something that is a selfless
Speaker 3: act and helping other people. So to see him, a
Speaker 3: person who gives so much of himself, go through something
Speaker 3: like this is you know, it's kind of heartbreaking, you know,
Speaker 3: like I said, I wish that there's a reconciliation, you know,
Speaker 3: that they're able to co payment properly, because I you know,
Speaker 3: I'm none of us. He doesn't even want a child
Speaker 3: not to be with the mother, you know, he just
Speaker 3: wants to have access and be and know that his
Speaker 3: child is safe. You know, I'm just hoping that God
Speaker 3: sees fit to make all of this happen and make
Speaker 3: it right and make the best situation for truth.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
Speaker 4: And you know what I want to say that we
Speaker 4: I was getting ready to say, and I had to
Speaker 4: rethink while you were speaking my next words because I
Speaker 4: was gonna say, y'all don't always make the best decisions
Speaker 4: as men, and and and then I thought, we as
Speaker 4: humans don't always make the best decisions. And you know,
Speaker 4: I think that there's so many lessons to come from this,
Speaker 4: because so many times we have children because we.
Speaker 1: Like people or we you know, we're having a good time,
Speaker 1: we like.
Speaker 4: You, things happen, relationships or whatever happened, and then you know,
Speaker 4: you don't even know the type of visceral reaction that
Speaker 4: can come from breaking up or not being together or
Speaker 4: not whatever whatever issues. I'm not it's not my place,
Speaker 4: nor do I care to try to debate the specifics
Speaker 4: of relationships, but it is a lesson that we do
Speaker 4: have to monitor, how know we what we choose to
Speaker 4: get ourselves involved with. This is for women and for men,
Speaker 4: right because when it's all, when the shit all hits
Speaker 4: the fan, you look back and you may or may
Speaker 4: not have even seen the signs. You might not have
Speaker 4: You may have missed the signs because you didn't even
Speaker 4: really know the person you were dealing with, or you
Speaker 4: might have been with a person and you didn't know
Speaker 4: them and you didn't see the signs because you didn't
Speaker 4: choose to at the time, And then here we are
Speaker 4: living a nightmare. So I think that's a big lesson
Speaker 4: that comes out of all of this, all of these situations.
Speaker 4: And I pray, I pray so much that this sister
Speaker 4: will show up with this baby and that the courts
Speaker 4: will be lenient on her because they know that she's
Speaker 4: dealing with the stress of the mental health is real
Speaker 4: and the shit that we as women deal with. Sometimes
Speaker 4: we step out of our right mind when we're dealing
Speaker 4: with pain or hurt from a relationship.
Speaker 1: That's what we do.
Speaker 4: I mean, that's just the truth, and I pray that
Speaker 4: they will see that and understand it. And really, more
Speaker 4: so than condemning or sending her to jail or whatever,
Speaker 4: I pray that they will send her and force her
Speaker 4: to make sure she's having her mental health dealt with
Speaker 4: so that she could be at peace with herself, with truth,
Speaker 4: with with.
Speaker 1: Whoever and whatever, and hopefully one day would.
Speaker 2: Train from your mouth to God's e.
Speaker 4: Because nobody's perfect. Men don't be being perfect, that's all.
Speaker 4: I don't care. I don't care how many people y'all feed.
Speaker 4: I don't care how many things y'all do, where you
Speaker 4: go whatever. I don't care y'all quote and quote high
Speaker 4: value men. Y'all a mess. So that's that's right there.
Speaker 3: I'm get into the high men because that's a whole
Speaker 3: nother thing that y'all got going on the internet. I
Speaker 3: don't even engage in them conversations. I just know who
Speaker 3: I am, and that's just what that is, and that
Speaker 3: brings me to my I don't get you know, it's
Speaker 3: you know, we've been in this political season.
Speaker 2: We're just getting over this election.
Speaker 3: You know, people feel how they feel about the candidates
Speaker 3: this and that, you know, and I'm always critical about everybody.
Speaker 3: I've always said, listen, I don't have any party. I'm
Speaker 3: I'm loyal to my agenda. I'm one to black people.
Speaker 3: I want to see black people being the best position possible,
Speaker 3: you know, and I want the issues that are going
Speaker 3: to affect black people to be highlighted. I want people
Speaker 3: to be in positions of power that can change, you know,
Speaker 3: the issues that affect black people.
Speaker 2: I want to see black people in a position power.
Speaker 2: So I've been.
Speaker 3: Adamant about that, you know, as it looks right now,
Speaker 3: pretty much most of those things, in my opinion, I
Speaker 3: have come from the Democratic Party, so I tend to
Speaker 3: lean and speak about a lot of Democrats in a
Speaker 3: positive manner, and I still called them out. And this
Speaker 3: is one of the times when we called them out.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 3: Last week I spoke about Joe Biden granted partons and
Speaker 3: clemency to over fifteen hundred people thirty nine you know,
Speaker 3: on pardons and over fifteen hundred clemencies, which broke the
Speaker 3: record for one day. And you know, I thought that
Speaker 3: was something positive that a lot of people that have
Speaker 3: been incarcerated unfairly, you know, especially for my communities, and
Speaker 3: we know, if they've ben fifteen hundred people released, there's
Speaker 3: a good chunk of them that come from you know,
Speaker 3: our communities that are black and you know Latino that
Speaker 3: come from marginalized communities.
Speaker 2: So that was something that I wanted to highlight and congratulate.
Speaker 3: I said, Okay, Joe, you know, but this new part
Speaker 3: that I found out that he gave to the Cash
Speaker 3: for Kids.
Speaker 2: Judge, Now it was like, what, like, how did this
Speaker 2: even happen?
Speaker 3: Like, explain to me how a president gives a judge
Speaker 3: of pardon who was convicted of giving sending kids to
Speaker 3: detention centers in jails in exchange for cash, Like.
Speaker 2: How do you justify that? What is the mind state
Speaker 2: that even comes with a situation like that? I just
Speaker 2: I just didn't get it.
Speaker 3: I just didn't understand, you know, and I had to
Speaker 3: call it out because in all honesty and fanness, it's
Speaker 3: some shit that went against what it is that I represent,
Speaker 3: you know, it went against my moral compass, and I'm
Speaker 3: and there's so many other people. You know, we have
Speaker 3: per Russian who's trying to come home and shouldn't be
Speaker 3: in jail. You know, we have brothers who I know,
Speaker 3: my friends who've been in jail for doing life, that's
Speaker 3: still doing life for drug you know, for drug convictions,
Speaker 3: and they're sitting up in jail with life sentences and
Speaker 3: you you pardon the man who is you know, found
Speaker 3: guilty of giving kids jail sentences in exchange for cash.
Speaker 3: Come on joke, like like like who's who's authorizing this,
Speaker 3: Who's in the sitting there and saying, yeah, this makes sense,
Speaker 3: sign this one.
Speaker 2: What's the sense?
Speaker 4: Pardons and clemency and all of that. Advocacy relationships are
Speaker 4: a big part of it. There's some part of it
Speaker 4: that is about categories. So for instance, Obama wanted to
Speaker 4: do something massive around uh, nonviolent drug offenders. Right, So
Speaker 4: he was attempting to do a big massive sweep of
Speaker 4: like letting people out, get granting them pardons and clemency
Speaker 4: right as he was getting ready to leave office, and
Speaker 4: the Republicans would not allow him to sort of like
Speaker 4: change rules because you kind of got to do it
Speaker 4: one body individually, sign individuals. It's kind of like very
Speaker 4: small groupings. It's very small and very tedious, and he
Speaker 4: wanted to like.
Speaker 2: Just you literally have to sign each one of them.
Speaker 4: Literally, So he wanted to do like some type of
Speaker 4: mass pardon and that that didn't work out. But it's
Speaker 4: also about relationships. Is who knows who that can talk
Speaker 4: to somebody. And the thing for me is like Joe
Speaker 4: Biden has never been our savior.
Speaker 1: We never thought so.
Speaker 4: Most cases, people just didn't want Trump the president, and
Speaker 4: that's why they voted for Joe Biden.
Speaker 1: Certainly that was my situation. And when he's done things like.
Speaker 4: College debt forgiveness and things like that, I've said, you
Speaker 4: know what, this is good joke, keep going this what
Speaker 4: we need, you know, and other things that he's done.
Speaker 4: The Supreme Court justices, the judges on the bench, on
Speaker 4: the federal courts, his Department of Justice was extremely progressive
Speaker 4: in terms of addressing the issues of police violence and
Speaker 4: civil rights abuses in different municipalities. Just got a consent
Speaker 4: decree in Louisville, Kentucky, where the Department of Justice found
Speaker 4: that in the wake of Breonna Taylor, that they had
Speaker 4: been violating the civil rights of the citizens of Louisville,
Speaker 4: and people fought and organized to get that consent decree
Speaker 4: signed by the mayor there in.
Speaker 1: The city of Louisville.
Speaker 4: And to his credit, he has said, even when the
Speaker 4: new administration comes in, which we know that the new
Speaker 4: administration's position is more police community, more safety for police.
Speaker 4: You know, these standards that we are attempting to set,
Speaker 4: they don't believe it them at all for the most part.
Speaker 4: And this mayor has said, I would still keep the
Speaker 4: consent decree and continue to work on the issues that
Speaker 4: the Department of Justice they're findings about the issues within
Speaker 4: their police department. And so again we speak on that.
Speaker 4: You know, I have also not so much praise, but
Speaker 4: I've highlighted the administrations work around gun violence and making
Speaker 4: sure that smaller grassroots organizations get the resources that they need,
Speaker 4: and that cities get the resources it needs to distribute
Speaker 4: for smaller grassroots groups to do the work of ending
Speaker 4: gun violence in our communities or at least reducing it significantly.
Speaker 1: So there are things that I can speak to.
Speaker 4: And as it relates to this particular situation, it's wrong, period.
Speaker 4: There's nothing else to be said about it. It's actually discussed.
Speaker 4: And what is further discussing is the genocide.
Speaker 1: That UH that.
Speaker 4: UH President Biden and the Biden Harris administration has been supplying,
Speaker 4: paying for funding. And so when you think about that,
Speaker 4: the genocide, the cash for kids, the desire to give
Speaker 4: police more money, not to actually balance the budgets and
Speaker 4: take money from police departments to put it into things
Speaker 4: like mental health and housing and and food securities. You know,
Speaker 4: these this, these are things that we have an issue with.
Speaker 4: And I just want to say to all the people
Speaker 4: who are out there who want to use this opportunity
Speaker 4: to say, oh, my son, you you how could you
Speaker 4: look at how you support and.
Speaker 1: Uh uh Joe.
Speaker 4: Biden and you support him over here, but now you
Speaker 4: want to be upset with him.
Speaker 1: Oh you you know, pick a side.
Speaker 4: Oh, that's right, because the Democrats ain't no good and
Speaker 4: that's why you shouldn't be with them ever, and blah
Speaker 4: blah blah.
Speaker 1: Some of these the same.
Speaker 4: People that think that Jordan Nearly's murderer, Daniel Penny right,
Speaker 4: that he should never have been at a football game,
Speaker 4: a football game with the president elect and the vice
Speaker 4: president elect being celebrated after he murdered somebody for yelling
Speaker 4: and for being agitated and hungry and thirsty as he
Speaker 4: said on the train. They don't like that. They like,
Speaker 4: I don't think he should have done that. So if
Speaker 4: it's okay with you that your racist as president does
Speaker 4: those types of things to show his racism, and you
Speaker 4: could still support him because he might bring down the
Speaker 4: prices of eggs and bread, and you think when he
Speaker 4: already undersaid he might.
Speaker 1: Not even be able to do that.
Speaker 4: And somehow you believe that being close to him, as
Speaker 4: a white man who supposedly has money, it might make
Speaker 4: you a part of the Handmaid's Hell family. You can
Speaker 4: accept that, So then you should just be okay with
Speaker 4: the fact that sometimes we like Joe Biden's decisions and
Speaker 4: sometimes we don't.
Speaker 2: And that's and that's what it is like. I I
Speaker 2: try to tell.
Speaker 3: People, these are not I don't have no allegiance to
Speaker 3: any of these people. These you know, I'm looking at
Speaker 3: a situation. I'm saying who I think is the best person,
Speaker 3: who fits my morals, who fits the things that I
Speaker 3: stand for most, And even though none of them completely
Speaker 3: mirror who I am as a man, I know that
Speaker 3: Trump is just way further away from what it is
Speaker 3: that I see a man than Trump then than body is.
Speaker 3: But I'm gonna call Biden out. I'm gonna call anybody
Speaker 3: out because that's the reality what it is. Because I'm
Speaker 3: gonna speak truth to power. I don't drink the kool aid.
Speaker 3: You know, the reality of what it is with me
Speaker 3: is if I see something wrong, I can say it
Speaker 3: because I don't care about I'm not I'm not part
Speaker 3: of no no Maga cult.
Speaker 2: I'm not part of no cult.
Speaker 3: There's nothing about Joe Biden that makes me feel like
Speaker 3: I gotta defend him. If he do some bullshit, I'm
Speaker 3: say is bullshit. When he does some good shit, i'm
Speaker 3: gonna say, Okay, that's what I'm talking about. That's the
Speaker 3: reason why I did this. When you do some shit
Speaker 3: like this, I'm gonna say it's the worst shit ever.
Speaker 3: And you know, and and I created a song called
Speaker 3: none of these Presidents represent Me because they actually don't
Speaker 3: represent me. They actually represent the United States of America.
Speaker 3: And unfortunately, I mean fortunately, you know, I have to
Speaker 3: live here. You know, I love America, and I'm happy
Speaker 3: to be here. But one of these people are going
Speaker 3: to run this country. And we see who's running now.
Speaker 3: So for now, while Joe Biden is still in the office,
Speaker 3: as he makes whatever transitions, and you know, whatever decisions
Speaker 3: he makes, I'm gonna say, either they're good or they're bad, and.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna speak on it. And then when Trump gets in.
Speaker 3: Office, and if he does some good shit ever, Okay,
Speaker 3: Trump did some good ship it is it is my best.
Speaker 3: It would make me feel so good if I'm wrong
Speaker 3: about Trump. If Trump gets in the White House and
Speaker 3: he do all the shit, he can stop the genocide,
Speaker 3: he can bring the economy back, he can stop war,
Speaker 3: he can actually to increase race, you know, on relations
Speaker 3: in America.
Speaker 2: He could stop police from killed.
Speaker 3: If he could do all of that ship that y'all said,
Speaker 3: I would be I would be elated.
Speaker 2: I just don't believe it.
Speaker 3: There's nothing that he's ever said or done that makes
Speaker 3: me believe that he could do that. But I would
Speaker 3: be elated if he could do that. You think I
Speaker 3: want to sit in the country that's fucked up? You
Speaker 3: think I want to watch somebody destroy a country where
Speaker 3: I live at Hell?
Speaker 1: No, So I'm rooting for.
Speaker 2: I want to see him when.
Speaker 3: I just don't see how with the with the strategy,
Speaker 3: in the mindset he has. But listen, I'm all for
Speaker 3: And if he when and when and if he does
Speaker 3: something positive, I'm gonna say he did some positive and
Speaker 3: that's that and that's that on that and.
Speaker 2: Now that brings us to the end of another episode.
Speaker 3: Shut out to our brother Trade the truth, you know,
Speaker 3: hopefully you know, he's reconciled with his daughter soon. You know, God,
Speaker 3: we pray, we send him prayers up to you that
Speaker 3: you can fix this situation. You know, speak to the
Speaker 3: mother's hard. You know, I know Trey is hurt because
Speaker 3: I know Trade for a long time, and I know
Speaker 3: how strong he is, you know, and just to see
Speaker 3: him in this level of turmoil and confusion and just pain,
Speaker 3: you know, I don't I know that it's really bothering
Speaker 3: him and it's hurting him. So, you know, we wish
Speaker 3: that this situation gets fixed as soon as possible.
Speaker 2: If you have any information, like you.
Speaker 3: Said, don't approach them, don't try to be take matters
Speaker 3: in your hands, just you know, reach out to the
Speaker 3: authorities man, and hopefully they can fix this situation, you know.
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