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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Anny and Samantha.

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Speaker 2: I'm welcome to stuff. I never told your prediction.

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Speaker 3: iHeartRadio, so I don't know if I'm the only one

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Speaker 3: who did this. But after the results of the elections

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Speaker 3: of twenty twenty four, putting a timestamp's November twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: four for y' all to know, and we are well

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Speaker 3: past the election results and we are.

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Speaker 1: Not okay.

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Speaker 3: But with all of that, after getting past the initial

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Speaker 3: sad slash for me sleepy morning stage, I started digging

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Speaker 3: into like a type of survival mode, which include for me, breadmaking. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I bought a breadmaker. By the way, I have made

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Speaker 3: four different loads of bread you successfully. They've been edible, yes, inedible. Hey,

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Speaker 3: that's success. That's success for me. Okay, Gardening, or at

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Speaker 3: least plotting to do a garden. I am now invested

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Speaker 3: into looking and actually participating in gardening, which is a

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Speaker 3: But I just don't feel like I'll be successful because

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Speaker 3: all my plants die. But at this point, I'm like,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna try. Let's at least, you know, plant the potato.

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Speaker 3: Apparently that's all year long in Georgia. So we're gonna

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Speaker 3: go completely Irish Scottish and just do potatoes to survive

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Speaker 3: on those, and then also really digging into my newest

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Speaker 3: dangerous hobby of a punch needling.

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Speaker 1: Thanks TikTok Like.

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Speaker 3: I saw them doing it and I was like, oh, wait,

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Speaker 3: I get to stab things.

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Speaker 1: I can do that. I think I can do that.

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Speaker 3: And for the record, yes, I have already stabbed myself

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Speaker 3: over fifty times. Yeah, but I've only bled a couple

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Speaker 3: of times, so a win is a win. Yes, I've

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Speaker 3: punctured my skin about three times, but out of fifty

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Speaker 3: that's not bad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty good.

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Speaker 3: I A.

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Speaker 3: My partner was like, I think we need to send

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Speaker 3: the tyser needles fair enough.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of sharp things, but I've really gotten

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Speaker 3: into them. I needed something to double task. I guess

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Speaker 3: exit plan just in case I am deported, which has

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Speaker 3: become a real fear by the way that I am

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Speaker 3: trying to plan for just in case if any of

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Speaker 3: our listeners are like immigration you know, lawyers, and want

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Speaker 3: to call me about my naturalization that I've had for

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Speaker 3: over thirty years. But you know, as a feminist, maybe

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Speaker 3: in danger, especially as an Asian person because apparently Chinese

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Speaker 3: white people do in differentiating. But anyway, so it just

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Speaker 3: seemed like a good time to pick up a new hobby.

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Speaker 1: Again. By the way, I have a.

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Speaker 3: Lot of coasters that resemble resemble either a scenic view

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Speaker 1: I'm still in the learning process.

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Speaker 2: Any you've come a long way. You've sent me pictures.

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Speaker 3: I've sent pictures. Well, so funny is the way that

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Speaker 3: But you can do all these different types of designs.

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Speaker 3: And I'm figuring that out, y'all. I'm figuring this out.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing I've got a lot of coasters, unnecessarily because

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Speaker 3: Yes, a lot of us, I think, are in need

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Speaker 3: This is a suggestions and from WebMD dot com. Keeping

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Speaker 3: Research found that adults who take out time to practice

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Speaker 1: Do your activities.

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Speaker 3: It improves your mental health. Also so again from connectealth

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Speaker 3: more time spent towards creative activities produce more positive emotions. Additionally,

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Speaker 3: many great things. I did look at quilting. I wondered

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Speaker 4: I have a friend who you know, it's Katie but

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Speaker 4: It's a nice thing when your friend gets a hobby,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but I feel like, if you're really good friends

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Speaker 1: Do you have mushrooms now for a coaster? It's not

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Speaker 3: There's also that small caveat it seems women are less

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Speaker 3: some even argue some men that women shouldn't have hobbies.

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Speaker 3: And I say that very pointedly at a specific group

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Speaker 3: Also because women don't have as much free time. Here's

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Speaker 3: ABS's latest time You survey, we girly pops don't get

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Speaker 3: Men spend an average of four hours and thirty nine

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Speaker 3: again from that fashion journal dot com. The topic for

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Speaker 3: hobbies are devalued, the consequence is women and girls are

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Speaker 3: less likely to talk about them. But you know, let's

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Speaker 3: keep it optimistic, she says, Just because our hobbies can

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Speaker 3: In another article from the Virago charity, Turcula writes about

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Speaker 3: fact well documented that women like to charge their phone, twork,

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Speaker 3: So obviously all of these are very sarcastic in nature

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Speaker 1: I just sit here.

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Speaker 3: Right, yeah, right, And that's such a hilarious conversation. But again,

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Speaker 3: curse of painful childbirth and the duty of homemaking so

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Speaker 3: I think it's hilarious that this is that conversation. Either

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Speaker 1: Sure they don't really know about it. Yeah, they don't

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Speaker 4: Right, they're all fine to be like, Oh, she knows

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Speaker 4: how to play Halo, and then you kick it Halo.

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Speaker 2: Suddenly she is the worst person. She needs to I

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Speaker 3: Catchman games much my gig and they throw the games

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Speaker 3: you gotta love it, you know. With all of that,

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Speaker 3: Do you have suggestions for us? And of course do

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Speaker 3: you have advice on how to stop injuring myself with

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Speaker 2: Yes, and again I will happily take the bridge of

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Speaker 2: your new of your hobby. Yes, listeners, we would love

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