Speaker 1: What's up? Boys?
Speaker 2: Welcome to another episode of Busting with the Boys. I
Speaker 2: am your host Will Compton, my co host Taylor Lawan.
Speaker 2: He is in Canada for the next month. The boy
Speaker 2: is going out his wife Taylor and shout out Taylor,
Speaker 2: no free shouts of tailing.
Speaker 1: She is from Canada.
Speaker 2: She hasn't been home in three years, so they're spending
Speaker 2: some time out in Canada. The boy's gonna get busy
Speaker 2: out there. It got the whole gym set up. He's
Speaker 2: like the fucking rock dude. He's got his Iron Paradise
Speaker 2: set up out there. They're on a beautiful lake. But
Speaker 2: he's gonna be living the dream for the next month.
Speaker 2: But you got your boy. This is gonna be our
Speaker 2: last week of doing where we drop two episodes. So
Speaker 2: you're gonna have Eric Wood today and then on Thursday,
Speaker 2: we got a nice little surprise the boy, the boy
Speaker 2: George Kittle, he's coming through to co host with me,
Speaker 2: shout out tight in you a little bit. But this
Speaker 2: will be the last week for two episodes per week.
Speaker 2: We go back to our regular programming.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 2: Go back to regular programming. One a week. We drop
Speaker 2: on Wednesdays. We will change all this stuff for you.
Speaker 2: We will update you guys on social media at BUSTINWTB,
Speaker 2: but we are going back to one a week, dropping
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Speaker 1: All right, what can we talk about now? Boys?
Speaker 2: I don't have my compadre Taylor here. What is new
Speaker 2: stuff for us? Before we get into talking all things, Eric,
Speaker 2: would we got some house cleaning we would like to
Speaker 2: take care of. If you're watching right now, you're gonna
Speaker 2: see the boys repping a new colorway of the dad hats,
Speaker 2: the dad ropats. I'm wearing a black one white riding
Speaker 2: white rope.
Speaker 1: It is fire. We got a lot of new.
Speaker 2: Colorways for the for the dad hats, for the girl
Speaker 2: dad hats that are there right now. There's a wait
Speaker 2: list right they're sold out. I think we're on a
Speaker 2: waiting list. A lot of new colorways coming with that too,
Speaker 2: Navy blue with the white, black with the white. There's
Speaker 2: a lot of different several colors that are coming with that.
Speaker 2: So be on the lookout for new merch. But we
Speaker 2: have new merch going on right now. You see your
Speaker 2: boys rocking. My favorite sure right now of the year
Speaker 2: is the uh Walmart looking for the boys, fucking eagle
Speaker 2: talents grabbing the bus, electricity everywhere for the boys in red,
Speaker 2: white and blue. This is what I'll be repping on
Speaker 2: the fourth of July. I will probably be repping the
Speaker 2: new tanks that we created. So we had such a
Speaker 2: good uh, we had such good feedback with these teas
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Speaker 1: What else?
Speaker 2: I hit the episodes? How are episodes? We're going back
Speaker 2: to regular programming. I hit the merchandise, the fire shit
Speaker 2: that we get. The boys got going on right now?
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, we you already said something about tightening you,
Speaker 3: and I'm sure we'll dive into yesday.
Speaker 2: Yeah, tight en You is coming to town. It's currently Tuesday.
Speaker 2: You guys are listening. Everybody's flying in today. George kitt Ole,
Speaker 2: Travis Kelsey, Greg Olsen. They are putting these boys like
Speaker 2: they are having the highest of vibes for like a
Speaker 2: position group in the NFL. They're staying at the freaking
Speaker 2: I probably shouldn't say where they're staying at. I was
Speaker 2: about to say, but they're staying in a nice little hotel.
Speaker 2: They're gonna have a lot of camaraderie. They're working with
Speaker 2: college kids. They are working with the Boys and Girls Club.
Speaker 2: They're doing a lot of good shit. Man, shout out
Speaker 2: tighten you. Free shouts to the boys, just because they're
Speaker 2: the boys. Greg he's a big friend of the Pot.
Speaker 2: He's actually one of the boys. We're hoping to get
Speaker 2: Greg Olsen on the POT. I have heard room that
Speaker 2: Josh Allen Buffalo Bill's quarterback is in town.
Speaker 1: That would be electric. We will do whatever pos.
Speaker 3: Talk about him on the episode You're about to listen
Speaker 3: to with Eric Wood.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. Shout out fucking Jack for that
Speaker 2: heads up play. We talk about Josh Allen.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Eric Wood comes on the podcast Boys. He's a former
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bill. He was forced to retire and end his
Speaker 2: career after a Pro Bowl season because of a bad
Speaker 2: severe neck injury. The dude number one Jack. I would
Speaker 2: say he's in the tier of like Joe Thomas after
Speaker 2: retiring and you go from fat to fit.
Speaker 1: Dude.
Speaker 3: I think when he came on, Taylor was like, that's
Speaker 3: me when I leave football.
Speaker 1: He's like, got so hyped about it. It was just
Speaker 1: I can't wait too.
Speaker 2: He's got a bit of a chest though, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like Taylor, I feel like if he's
Speaker 2: got to get some.
Speaker 1: No I, you's got to get them shelves. You gotta
Speaker 1: get them shelves on the chest.
Speaker 3: Google Eric Wood that the photos you see on Google
Speaker 3: are not the same guy.
Speaker 1: Dude, Dude, Google Eric Wood.
Speaker 2: He's got some funny because he's got the curly hair,
Speaker 2: he's got the blonde curly hair.
Speaker 1: You can he's got some funny choby picks and dies
Speaker 1: for ball. He was such a dude. He was all
Speaker 1: about ball.
Speaker 2: We get into a lot of obviously Buffalo Bill's talk
Speaker 2: the time he was with Buffalo, how they're good now,
Speaker 2: how they were shitty back then, why he thought they
Speaker 2: were shitty back then. We talk about how his career ended,
Speaker 2: how he dealt with that transition. We kind of dive
Speaker 2: into that because the man's an entrepreneur, he does a podcast,
Speaker 2: he's in the media game, he does a lot of
Speaker 2: really cool shit. Because we talk about how football player
Speaker 2: struggle was like finding that next high, like that that
Speaker 2: next roller coaster after being in the league. You spend
Speaker 2: your entire life playing football, dreaming of playing football, being
Speaker 2: a professional football player.
Speaker 1: You played at the highest level.
Speaker 2: You have all these highs, like the stardom, the fame
Speaker 2: that comes with it, the money, all of the all
Speaker 2: of the benefits of being a professional athlete, and then
Speaker 2: when that gets kind of taken from you, like you
Speaker 2: feel like everything can be a little boring, right, because
Speaker 2: you're so used to like riding this high. And so
Speaker 2: we talk a lot about like chasing that next high,
Speaker 2: like what was it for him when he got out
Speaker 2: of it? Tells a hilarious Ritchie and Cognito story. We
Speaker 2: talk about a lot of fun shit. He talks about
Speaker 2: Ryan Fitzpatrick. This was before Fitzmagic retired. Our tear talk
Speaker 2: was top beers. We talk about JJ Watt, Thanksgiving, gaining weight,
Speaker 2: a lot of fun stuff that I think you guys
Speaker 2: are really gonna enjoy. But Eric Wood was a stud.
Speaker 2: You guys might be thinking, I don't know if this
Speaker 2: pods for me. I swear to god, this is a
Speaker 2: very good conversation you guys who like love the names
Speaker 2: and everything else. Yeah, with Eric Wood, Like, he is
Speaker 2: a stud, but he's an old lineman. He's not like
Speaker 2: a big name. He's not a name. But as far
Speaker 2: as conversations go, this was a fucking banger. Boys, I'm
Speaker 2: telling you, but make sure to subscribe. Raate do all
Speaker 2: that stuff. Oh yeah, we talk about a lot of
Speaker 2: his injuries outside of his neck as well, but anything
Speaker 2: else before we get into the episode. Boys, am I
Speaker 2: missing anything? I hope you guys all had a wonderful
Speaker 2: Father's Day. It was my first one. I absolutely loved it.
Speaker 2: My wife started the morning off with a card, holding
Speaker 2: ruin her arm, snuck upstairs, got Rue, brought her down.
Speaker 2: Made it seem like ruis giving me the card is
Speaker 2: the cutest thing in the world, and just got me
Speaker 2: in my feels immediately brought up my mom in the
Speaker 2: cart and all the good stuff. The boy was rolling
Speaker 2: in tears a little bit right out of bed. She
Speaker 2: had some I was like, oh, bye, you know how
Speaker 2: the boy, You know how your boy's on his diet shit.
Speaker 2: But you know, on weekends, we paused a diet from
Speaker 2: five pm on Friday and we kick it back up
Speaker 2: at ten pm on Sunday and so on.
Speaker 1: When it was Father's Day.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh sweet, it's a little late, and
Speaker 2: I'm gonna give a free shot out right here, but
Speaker 2: it's no free shoutouts. But it's a little late to
Speaker 2: get bright Side Bakery. And she looked at me and
Speaker 2: she so sorry, got you, babe. I ordered him for
Speaker 2: pick up because bright Said bakery sells out.
Speaker 1: Within an hour.
Speaker 2: They opened up at eight o'clock. By the time we
Speaker 2: picked him up at nine to fifteen on the door,
Speaker 2: it sets sold out. But they obviously if you order
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Speaker 1: And then we went over to Mike Chandler's. Had a great.
Speaker 2: Pool pool day, get some rays, grilled carnivore diet, and
Speaker 2: we had.
Speaker 1: Some high vies.
Speaker 2: Man, the boy had a stogy. I was in the dream.
Speaker 2: We had little ruin the pool and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: But I had a phenomenal Father's day. I hope all
Speaker 2: the dads you guys did out there as well, and
Speaker 2: everybody took care of their old man or their husband.
Speaker 2: But other than that, man, let's jump into the episode.
Speaker 1: Were good. They're old boys.
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Speaker 2: This is episode one sixty two with Eric Wood busting
Speaker 2: with the boys. You guys love it because we love you, guys.
Speaker 2: Biggest of pugs and tinies of kisses.
Speaker 4: Hey, my daughter, My daughter pooped in the toilet yesterday
Speaker 4: by herself, Willow. And she's just like low key, just
Speaker 4: poty training herself right now. She's gonna be two in July.
Speaker 4: She's like, shees her sister Daning and she's like, I
Speaker 4: just want to do that, So I take her diaper
Speaker 4: off and run over. So I just got I just
Speaker 4: got a text about it. Do uh tam from Tailing
Speaker 4: to like the rest of the family, and she had
Speaker 4: like four times this week pee and pooped in the toilet.
Speaker 4: How sick is that? That's herself at the ties at
Speaker 4: the time frame, like if from one day time, like
Speaker 4: when was like two and a half when we were
Speaker 4: like it was probably like a little earlier than two
Speaker 4: and a half, but like we started like all right,
Speaker 4: we got to do the party. Now, we gotta do this,
Speaker 4: and she picked it up pretty fast. But Willa is
Speaker 4: just like I'm doing all this shit. Yeah, she's trying
Speaker 4: to be like her sister. How many kids you have?
Speaker 1: We have two, six and four.
Speaker 5: Our little boy he was like three and a half,
Speaker 5: taking big boy dumps, like in my size kid taking
Speaker 5: big boy dumps in you doing. Our daughter was like
Speaker 5: the same way nineteen months Yeah, in her pants again,
Speaker 5: that's wild.
Speaker 1: Like girls think it's sick, boys are like screwed.
Speaker 4: My daughter takes the biggest shits my oldest. Her ships
Speaker 4: are like adult sized. She goes in there, no problems,
Speaker 4: screams at me, which rumps in a wiper and you
Speaker 4: just go and look at it and you're like, yeah,
Speaker 4: I had to get a picture of this is into somebody.
Speaker 1: It's unbelievable, dude.
Speaker 5: And Ryan Fitzpatrick's text chain is eighty percent kids dumps.
Speaker 1: Each other. Yeah. Yeah, his youngest is three, and he
Speaker 1: can rip.
Speaker 5: Themhing to rip them, like something you'd find in the
Speaker 5: locker room.
Speaker 1: Dude.
Speaker 4: Uh but even this morning, like when you come in parents,
Speaker 4: like there's no more like my time, Like if you
Speaker 4: have to the bathroom and mom's not around, like that
Speaker 4: happened this morning, and I had to take a dunk
Speaker 4: and I was like, I guess you guys are coming
Speaker 4: with me. So I have a picture of my daughter
Speaker 4: she's like plugging her nose, and my youngest is kind
Speaker 4: of just like looking with So it's just like me
Speaker 4: kind of looking like what's going on in there? And
Speaker 4: I finished, and god forbid, I flushed it before they
Speaker 4: saw it. They had to take a look at it,
Speaker 4: inspect it, give it its own grade, like it was unbelievable.
Speaker 4: See what they were all about it. It's weird. Things
Speaker 4: are hilarious, bro hilarious individuals. They're just like kind of
Speaker 4: drunk people or like drug addicts, like they're super happy
Speaker 4: and they're super mad. Then all of a suden're trying to
Speaker 4: kill themselves for no reason. That's a that's a bit
Speaker 4: some comedian did back clarified that that's.
Speaker 1: A bit your kids aren't trying to kill it.
Speaker 4: But you know what I'm saying, Like my daughter will
Speaker 4: like all of a sudden be like climbing up her
Speaker 4: high chair and like standing on her high shir It's
Speaker 4: like you just gonna die, like what, You're a high
Speaker 4: ledge and you could follow at any moment going down
Speaker 4: the stairs right at any point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, you're trying to
Speaker 1: grab Willow's hand, and Willow's misindependent, Yeah she is.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, were over at the house today, well, And
Speaker 5: the oldest are always more cautious, Like we didn't even
Speaker 5: have to child prove our house for our daughter. Some
Speaker 5: comes along it's like everything needs to be childprooved, like
Speaker 5: get the baby gates out and everything.
Speaker 1: We didn't have to do any of that with my daughter.
Speaker 5: Little boys or different animals, especially if they're the second
Speaker 5: Why is it, I don't know. It's like something about
Speaker 5: that oldest mentality, Like the oldest ones are more mature,
Speaker 5: they're more cautious, they're rule followers.
Speaker 1: The second one. I don't know why. It's like, get
Speaker 1: a psychologist in here to explain it.
Speaker 2: I mean Cody, Cody's more of, like a way more
Speaker 2: of a wild card than me. I'm the oldest, so
Speaker 2: I would like, yeah, that kind of makes sense. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I feel like the oldest usually are kind of like that,
Speaker 2: and then the middle child, second child, they're kind of
Speaker 2: just like, what the fuck's that?
Speaker 1: Dudes.
Speaker 4: Deal a little different for me because my brother, my
Speaker 4: dad called him the Golden boy growing up.
Speaker 1: He was always he as younger than me.
Speaker 4: He always came home, did his homework, first star athlete,
Speaker 4: was killing it, and I was kind of like your
Speaker 4: wild card and.
Speaker 1: You're the oldest.
Speaker 4: I'm the oldest. It's definitely flips now though. Did you
Speaker 4: drink formula? I did for a little bit. Yeah, I
Speaker 4: was like a little how I came out six pounds.
Speaker 4: I was tiny, Yeah, I mean I did for a
Speaker 4: little bit.
Speaker 1: Pounds. My brother was My brother was a month early,
Speaker 1: was four and a half pounds. Damn. Yeah. They fit
Speaker 1: like in the palm of my dad's say. It was
Speaker 1: crazy wild.
Speaker 4: But you're talking about Ryan Fitzpatrick, like, hey, everybuddy I've
Speaker 4: ever talked to.
Speaker 1: You, like I missed him.
Speaker 4: I was like a year before year after he was
Speaker 4: at the Titans is he like the coolest dude ever?
Speaker 1: What he is.
Speaker 5: He's got absolutely no ego, which is not super rare
Speaker 5: but fairly rare for a quarterback. They have zero ego,
Speaker 5: Like go into a game like Fitch, you've got to
Speaker 5: slide today, like we we can't win if we have
Speaker 5: our backup in there, Like you've got to slide.
Speaker 1: But he has no ego.
Speaker 5: I always say everyone from the mailman in the building
Speaker 5: to the GM to every player, he's everybody's favorite dude.
Speaker 5: He's not like a party animal off the field, but
Speaker 5: you get him out a couple times a year. Yeah,
Speaker 5: he's just he gets along with everybody, and everybody's walcome
Speaker 5: at his house. You know, he's got seven kids now,
Speaker 5: but like everybody on the team's welcome at his house,
Speaker 5: from the DB's to the wide receivers to the old
Speaker 5: line whoever may be. Like everyone's at his house. I mean,
Speaker 5: he's just he's the real deal. But it's it's consistency,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, Like no ego. Every single day,
Speaker 5: comes in, ready, works, works his stay off, not in
Speaker 5: the weight room, not a waightroom guy at all.
Speaker 4: Guy No, like he's got a great like chest, hair, body, though.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying that dad bod Yeah he does.
Speaker 4: He's got a great style about him.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but like he'll drive a strength coach nuts, but
Speaker 5: he will grind on some film. But hard work are great. Dude,
Speaker 5: one of my best friends of this day. You got
Speaker 5: it hasn't come out yet, and I have no idea
Speaker 5: how I gotta show you what he wore to the
Speaker 5: Masters this weekend. So him, he goes to the Masters
Speaker 5: every year with his dad and his brothers. So he
Speaker 5: sends me this picture the other day and.
Speaker 1: We should want So there's him and his brother just
Speaker 1: phenomenal beards. It's unreal, like these suit jackets with teal. Yeah,
Speaker 1: turn you turn and show the cameras. Outstanding, That's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I feel like his popularity probably went up even more
Speaker 2: when McGregor was like a superstar.
Speaker 4: And then gmcgregor and then the ego. The rest are
Speaker 4: just kids, don't pick. But did he he was the
Speaker 4: bills with you, Yeah he did. He give you the
Speaker 4: yetti cooler with his face on it. Just all the
Speaker 4: guys that the Tennessee got, yep, and the guy's at Houston.
Speaker 1: God, that's like his go to gift.
Speaker 4: That's his go to gift for a guy with no ego,
Speaker 4: to give you a yetti with his picture on it.
Speaker 1: Right, kind of streams differently a little bit.
Speaker 5: People see them, they're like, is that Zach Brown because
Speaker 5: it's like the beard and the he had on.
Speaker 1: But I'm like, no, it's Ryan Fitzpatrick.
Speaker 5: But when he got his extension with the Bills, that
Speaker 5: was his like big payday. He got like a five year,
Speaker 5: sixty million dollar deal, which was okay money at the time,
Speaker 5: like top fifteen starter mine.
Speaker 1: Oh where what it is now?
Speaker 5: No, not at all, but that was kind of mid tier,
Speaker 5: Like he knew he wasn't going to break the bank,
Speaker 5: but he wanted his stick in a situation. And man,
Speaker 5: a year and a half later, he broke his rids
Speaker 5: and didn't tell anybody. He played like crap the rest
Speaker 5: of the season. They going to cut him, draft DJ
Speaker 5: Manual and I honestly think we could have built something
Speaker 5: up there at that time.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm the eternal optimist.
Speaker 5: You know, every year played in the longest playoff ro
Speaker 5: out in all professional sports at the time, and.
Speaker 1: Every year was our year. You know. Yeah, looking back,
Speaker 1: and you guys came in.
Speaker 5: When you guys came in, there was a spending floor,
Speaker 5: like teams had to spend a certain amount. Not when
Speaker 5: I first got in the league, like our team, when
Speaker 5: I look back at my rookie year, we had a
Speaker 5: few big names that could sell some tickets too, Lee Evans,
Speaker 5: our quarterback was Trent Edward's fits was the backup at first.
Speaker 5: But like we were terrible and we spent no money,
Speaker 5: like really back It's like, man, that wasn't even fair,
Speaker 5: Like we were out there risking our bodies and like
Speaker 5: we weren't even putting the money out there to do it.
Speaker 5: But our owner, Ralph wils was on his deathbed. So
Speaker 5: you have other people like can we spend all this money?
Speaker 1: Can we do this? Do that?
Speaker 5: Google has a bought the team totally different. Look how
Speaker 5: they're spending money now, Like I.
Speaker 1: Have no idea.
Speaker 5: I had no idea how Brandon Bean has gotten all
Speaker 5: these guys under the cap. This year they're bringing in everybody.
Speaker 5: They're bringing von They do josh As deal. Last year
Speaker 5: they just redo digs deal, de Kwan Jones. They bring
Speaker 5: him in, Rod and Staffold you know, which is funny.
Speaker 5: And we got to get to talking the Little Bills
Speaker 5: Titans at some point. Absolutely the Bill's nemesis, like last
Speaker 5: year was teams that can get physical with him, which
Speaker 5: everybody built their defenses now to defend the Chiefs in
Speaker 5: the AOC. And then you get a team like you
Speaker 5: guys and just run over them. Well, now I think
Speaker 5: they're like, man, we need a little bit of that attitude.
Speaker 5: And then they just go right to the Titans, bring me,
Speaker 5: bring in Saffold and Dai Kwan Jones and you know
Speaker 5: them way better than me. But I think they think
Speaker 5: they're gonna come in and be more tone setters for them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Rogers one of the best run blocking guards I've
Speaker 4: ever seen in my life.
Speaker 1: Good, he's average.
Speaker 4: Cost me for my life, bro, it's not even as
Speaker 4: well like I've seen him do that to everybody, bro everything.
Speaker 1: The only person I han't seen him do that to
Speaker 1: his high tower.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he would just try and make me feel better,
Speaker 2: but I'd be like, hey, comp I got I got
Speaker 2: somebody this week, and then he'd like show me in
Speaker 2: a beg.
Speaker 1: Well I do feel better than yeah, just just everybody.
Speaker 1: But what's the weakness of his game?
Speaker 4: Why is is I'm not here to I'm not here
Speaker 4: to talk about Rogers weeks.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna soil my boy. He was okay, so uh.
Speaker 4: I will tell you like Roger's conditioning is incredible. He's
Speaker 4: a hard worker. He's always grunning in the weight room.
Speaker 1: I think.
Speaker 4: I think he's gonna do really well at the Bills.
Speaker 4: It seems like your coach is a guy that kind
Speaker 4: of keeps hit guys together, like kind of.
Speaker 1: Like Rabel does.
Speaker 4: He's got to lead a leader of men mentality, and
Speaker 4: he guys got all the pieces already.
Speaker 1: The Bills are that fucking team.
Speaker 4: I came at the Bills I think after it was
Speaker 4: like my first game back from suspension, and I started
Speaker 4: talking shit to Shaq laws in Shack Lawson, Yeah out
Speaker 4: of nowhere and the Bills and this is like not
Speaker 4: even really playing, and they the Bills mafia fucked my
Speaker 4: world up on Twitter.
Speaker 1: Absolutely strong, dude. They are so strong.
Speaker 4: It's like you want that as as a player, Like
Speaker 4: you want your fan base to be like that. And
Speaker 4: even for me, like going to see those fan base,
Speaker 4: it's like it's fucking wild out there. Yeah, valls are
Speaker 4: the same way. Shout out Jack back there, the volunteers
Speaker 4: go hard. But yeah, I think I think Roger's gonna
Speaker 4: do a great job.
Speaker 5: Aaron Kromer, who he had in LA right, Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 5: Chromer's awesome. I played for Chromer. He's one of the
Speaker 5: best offensive line coach in the league. He's like he
Speaker 5: learned under Howard Mudd and Bill Callahan, so he's got
Speaker 5: like a little bit of that, like we're tougher than them,
Speaker 5: go drive them off the ball. But then he teaches
Speaker 5: you what I called the ninja tricks of o line,
Speaker 5: like grapping the hand down the hand, reach around, grabbed
Speaker 5: their hip.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I did it to Bobby Wagner at the Pro Bowl
Speaker 5: one time, Like I let him get past me, and
Speaker 5: then we were running outside and so I just grabbed
Speaker 5: his opposite hip and just threw him up towards the field.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Bobby turned around like, what the hell was that little
Speaker 5: ninja trick? Brother, litt ninja trick?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 4: When I was at the Pro Bowl in sixteen, the
Speaker 4: coaches were I think the the San Diego Chargers at
Speaker 4: the time, and the line coach was like literally teaching
Speaker 4: that to us in the individual drill. Yeah, I believe
Speaker 4: that was I don't know.
Speaker 5: It was Aaron's assistant, Thrumer's assistant in Buffalo.
Speaker 1: He was incredible. He was like, all you got to
Speaker 1: do is grab the hip.
Speaker 4: So I like, you know, our on line coach at
Speaker 4: the Titans, He's very like, this is how you do it.
Speaker 1: That's how you do it. There's no other way to
Speaker 1: do it. This is the way.
Speaker 4: And I pulled one of those out in Houston, like
Speaker 4: grabbed the dude's hip. He totally beat me off. The
Speaker 4: ball got to step through him. I was like fifteen yards.
Speaker 4: I'm like, fuck, that shit works. Every ref around was like, hey,
Speaker 4: don't do that. I know, you know, they kind of
Speaker 4: gave me the warning. But yards were made, baby, I
Speaker 4: know I was about it. Yeah, those little tricks are something.
Speaker 4: The issue with having tricks as an offense alignment is
Speaker 4: a lot of guys like to use that as like
Speaker 4: their fastball, when it's like, no, that's a change up.
Speaker 4: You gotta if you want to flash the hand, do
Speaker 4: you want to jump set or like different things like
Speaker 4: you gotta have your go to every time and then
Speaker 4: a switch up to keep him on their toes.
Speaker 1: No doubt at center, you can't really do it a tackle.
Speaker 5: But my biggest changeup was like, and I would only
Speaker 5: do it if I had a dude who I was
Speaker 5: gonna struggle with in passpor but take my off hand
Speaker 5: and just pop them right on the forehead.
Speaker 4: That's a big thing for centers, right. You know, do
Speaker 4: you ever do you ever meet a David Molk? He
Speaker 4: played for the Eagles and the Charges for a little bit,
Speaker 4: hit a couple of coffee in the league.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he was the Remington Award winner. Yeah, he had.
Speaker 4: He won the Remington Award at Michigan, And that was
Speaker 4: his big thing is if there was a dude.
Speaker 1: He was a smaller guys, strong as a Knox though.
Speaker 4: He's like anytime the guys didn't give an issue, I
Speaker 4: fucking just jammed right in the face right away and
Speaker 4: then back up and then guy's kind of disoriented.
Speaker 1: Yep, it's a genius move.
Speaker 5: And then you buy a second and most pass plays
Speaker 5: left two and a half seconds, so now you got
Speaker 5: a second and a half the block of guys opposed
Speaker 5: to two and a half seconds. Yeah, but you can't
Speaker 5: do it every time, and then the refs don't like
Speaker 5: it either, right, because it catches them off guard, like, well,
Speaker 5: what'd you do is the hands of the face. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 5: I mean I threw my hand to hit him in
Speaker 5: the chest. He ducked his head. I mean, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: And there's always a greary.
Speaker 4: It's kind of like at their discretion when they can
Speaker 4: call it because you can grab the face mask if
Speaker 4: you pull off. Some refs are cooler about that. But
Speaker 4: if you just have it up there for a little bit,
Speaker 4: your ass is getting called.
Speaker 1: Oh, no doubt about it.
Speaker 5: And like for me, the umpires behind me so all
Speaker 5: the time, Like I'm a taller center, so all the
Speaker 5: time people get me right under the chin and just
Speaker 5: drive me back. I'm like, turn it around midplay, like
Speaker 5: what but they can't see through you.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And also the quarterbacks right behind you have the running back.
Speaker 4: You guys are kind of in a little cluster.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 4: In the beginning of my career it was I didn't
Speaker 4: play the game with the refs. It was like, you know,
Speaker 4: butter them up, shake their hands, house life, Oh you
Speaker 4: had kids, the whole thing. I didn't do that, So
Speaker 4: I do something they would the a fact, I mean
Speaker 4: a flag at me. Hey, that was just a misfranspronunciation.
Speaker 4: Please don't come at the boy, but they would throw
Speaker 4: a flag and I'd get it. I'd be like, what
Speaker 4: the fuck are you doing kind of go at them.
Speaker 4: And as I've gotten older, I was like, you just
Speaker 4: they're humans, So if you're just nice to them a
Speaker 4: little bit, they'll come work with you.
Speaker 1: And now you start to know the guys and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. It's a it's.
Speaker 5: Chess, dude, early different games it is. Earlier in my career,
Speaker 5: I thought I was coach k out there. I mean
Speaker 5: I was all over the refs, hammering them, hammering them.
Speaker 5: I had back to back double holding call games, which
Speaker 5: is an offensive line, just absolute nightmare sound games a
Speaker 5: year four and I was like, man, I need a
Speaker 5: totally different approach. I went into every game the rest
Speaker 5: of my career knew the umpire's name. If we had
Speaker 5: them before, It's like, okay, when do we have him,
Speaker 5: I'll talk to him about that.
Speaker 1: Hey, here's what I'm gonna do with my silent count today.
Speaker 5: Let me know if there's an issue, Hey, did you
Speaker 5: see anything on film?
Speaker 1: Alignment issues?
Speaker 5: Give us a warning and dude, the whole game, they'd
Speaker 5: be like, get your tackle up. Is it supposed to
Speaker 5: throw in the flag? It's like, man, why the heck
Speaker 5: what did I do with that? The whole time of
Speaker 5: my career. But I was also a little bit of
Speaker 5: a psychopath early my career. My rookie year at at Tennessee,
Speaker 5: Dan and Bosh played Nebraska with one of my teammates
Speaker 5: and good buddes, Chris Kelsey, who just absolute meatheads.
Speaker 1: Well, I basketbays I got.
Speaker 5: I was playing guards at the time, and I just
Speaker 5: wiped Van and Bosh out of the pocket, got him
Speaker 5: pretty good.
Speaker 1: One time he was bull rushing our tackle.
Speaker 5: Well, we throw a pick six, and it's like a
Speaker 5: quick pick six, so the dude runs in the end zone.
Speaker 1: They got off a hitch or something like that, like
Speaker 1: in the third minute.
Speaker 5: And Vandon Bosh after they scored, comes and just wipes
Speaker 5: me out fifteen yard penalty, big fine, and Any went
Speaker 5: in the locker room after the game, didn't even shake
Speaker 5: hands with Kelsey.
Speaker 1: His college roommate goes like, what the hell did you
Speaker 1: do to Vandabosh.
Speaker 5: I was like, dude, I was wearing him out there
Speaker 5: another games, like talking so much trash if he's probably
Speaker 5: thirty five years old, Like, well, this dude, just shut
Speaker 5: up and leave me alone.
Speaker 1: They're smoking us, like out there having fun.
Speaker 4: The thing about like coming going into guys like when
Speaker 4: you slide in slide protection or something like that, the
Speaker 4: three technique makes an inside move and he's gonna fuck
Speaker 4: them up or something like that. That's kind of gone
Speaker 4: away a little bit. They're definitely big on, like no
Speaker 4: blindside heads or so they don't even weird wiping out
Speaker 4: the pocket.
Speaker 1: It's weird. Yet Ben was one of the best at that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like Ben would sit there, he had nothing to
Speaker 4: do and go smoke somebody and hear him his big
Speaker 4: hit ass just kind of laughing in the corner as
Speaker 4: he did something. But they're like they're kind of big on, like, hey,
Speaker 4: don't do that anymore, which sucks because for me, if
Speaker 4: I have like a two I or a nose and
Speaker 4: I have an end right here and he's gonna bull
Speaker 4: rush me, like I want my guard to couldn't clean
Speaker 4: that up. Or if he goes inside, I want my
Speaker 4: guard to fuck him up a little bit because he knows, like,
Speaker 4: all right, we gotta play the outside game now. Now
Speaker 4: we're playing basketball, and that's that's my game, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Especially in pass bro.
Speaker 1: No doubt about it. I know it.
Speaker 5: I would always try and set vertical off the ball,
Speaker 5: make that three technique, think he had a two way
Speaker 5: go and think he could spin and man, you catch.
Speaker 5: There's no better feeling as a center than when you
Speaker 5: see that three technique spin and you know you're just
Speaker 5: gonna clean him as soon as he turns his head.
Speaker 1: Did you see Quentin Nelson?
Speaker 4: I think it was like two years ago against the
Speaker 4: Chargers Melvin Ingram and he does spin move, uh.
Speaker 1: Laid him down? H Yeah? What was his name? The Castro?
Speaker 4: No, not, the Castro was a guard, Castanza, the left tackle.
Speaker 4: He does spin on him and he fucking cleans them,
Speaker 4: absolutely murder. It was one of the most beautiful blocking plays.
Speaker 5: Where Nelson does things on a football field for a
Speaker 5: guard that just like shouldn't happen.
Speaker 1: What do you think it makes him so special? I
Speaker 1: think he's really smart.
Speaker 5: Now he's like super talented, but I think the way
Speaker 5: he the way he's able to pick stuff up and
Speaker 5: what he does now he's mean, but then like he
Speaker 5: plays with a ton of attitude. But then you'll hear
Speaker 5: him miked up and he like picks a dude up,
Speaker 5: like hey, my bad or you all right, yeah, how
Speaker 5: do you switch it on?
Speaker 1: And not like that?
Speaker 5: Like I'm either like like I hated playing against domeatop
Speaker 5: Peco because he was so nice. He would get me
Speaker 5: out of my game, right, he has the fan and
Speaker 5: so like the whole game he'd be like, butter me up,
Speaker 5: and then all of a sudden he like gets my
Speaker 5: hand and like hits the quarterback. I'm like like you
Speaker 5: got me, you got me, And so like I don't
Speaker 5: know how Quinn Nelson turns it on and off. But
Speaker 5: he's got a great combination of size, speed, strength, and
Speaker 5: then I think he's really smart.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he does a lot of stuff.
Speaker 4: He gets away with a lot of stuff as far
Speaker 4: as like grabbing guys in the outside. He's got a
Speaker 4: great reputation. I know a lot of guards like to
Speaker 4: talk trash on him, but that's my boy.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: The thing is when you work out with him, guy's
Speaker 4: got a tank like no one else. When it comes conditioning,
Speaker 4: he can just roll all day. He's talking shit. But
Speaker 4: then you go and like hang out and he's like
Speaker 4: super mild manner, the nicest guy in the world.
Speaker 1: Like he's just awesome to be around, even around cue.
Speaker 1: He's a sweetheart. He's a sweetheart, dude. You just look
Speaker 1: at him.
Speaker 4: You're like, this, dude's a fucking tank, right, just a
Speaker 4: massive individual, individual, giant traps like kind of walks around
Speaker 4: and it's just like hold monster.
Speaker 5: When they stuck came out at left tackle, he really
Speaker 5: showed off his athleticism.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of guards can pop out the player.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's wild.
Speaker 5: That's a different animal playing left tackle. You bump out
Speaker 5: the right and you got the tight end on your
Speaker 5: side and all that.
Speaker 1: It's fine.
Speaker 5: You got the left tackle on an open edge against
Speaker 5: the defensive ends that are going to go against you,
Speaker 5: and they just pop him out there and.
Speaker 1: He just doesn't even blink. It unbelievable. Just a couple
Speaker 1: of hogs talking ball.
Speaker 2: I love the old war story. You say one, Taylor
Speaker 2: thinks about a memory, He says one. You remember, you
Speaker 2: say one. Both pro bowlers just hogs in the trenches.
Speaker 1: Dude.
Speaker 5: You I looked over and saw your busting hat and like,
Speaker 5: my wife is always cool, Like we're down here celebrating
Speaker 5: our tenure aiversary and I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna go,
Speaker 5: thank you, thank you, And uh so she wanted to
Speaker 5: take a nap anyways before the Garth concert tonight, but
Speaker 5: I was like, hey, I'm gonna go to a podcast
Speaker 5: and we listened to the Pat McAfee one on the
Speaker 5: way down.
Speaker 1: Like she knew who Pat was. We listened to that
Speaker 1: on the drive down.
Speaker 5: But we were walking around the Gulch today and someone
Speaker 5: had one on one of those hatches, like someone random,
Speaker 5: and I was like, that's the podcast and she's like,
Speaker 5: that's pretty tight that, Like people were just walking around
Speaker 5: Nashville with the year on it. I know a bunch
Speaker 5: of people do that like that like set it in
Speaker 5: so and that it was like pretty cool.
Speaker 1: I podcast, no doubt about it.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, with a real deal Like this is a huge,
Speaker 4: great point everybody listening right everybody listening right now needs
Speaker 4: to go.
Speaker 1: To our merch store and cops some merse bussing through.
Speaker 4: That's probably in all of our links, your Twitter, my Twitter,
Speaker 4: Everyone's Twitter.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be in the link.
Speaker 4: But yeah, dude, it's crazy how Nashville is kind of
Speaker 4: like taking us in. You know, it's been Willow and
Speaker 4: played here for two years, had a little bug fly.
Speaker 4: Yeah it's just one year, bro, and it's crazy because
Speaker 4: you will go out now and any like, if I
Speaker 4: go anywhere, it's like I get at least one the boys.
Speaker 4: I'm like walking mindy, kind of like throw up a
Speaker 4: quick deuce as you're walking.
Speaker 5: I've heard you guys talk about this over the years.
Speaker 5: Has it quieted down as far as Oh Taylor had
Speaker 5: a holding call, must be too worried about the podcast?
Speaker 5: Like has that quieted down?
Speaker 4: I think we've quieted it down in our heads, like
Speaker 4: it's fine.
Speaker 1: It's once.
Speaker 4: It's like no, no, it's yeah, it's just as bad
Speaker 4: as it was. I think, like what people don't realize
Speaker 4: is every NFL player is doing something in the off season, right,
Speaker 4: whether it's playing video games, whether it's doing this real
Speaker 4: estate deal, whether you're trying to have your money they
Speaker 4: made in the league make more money. I'm just doing
Speaker 4: it on a public platform that everyone can see, right.
Speaker 4: That's what people really don't understand. It is like we
Speaker 4: show up here for an hour and a half and
Speaker 4: I take a couple hours throughout my day and like
Speaker 4: tweet and do shit and fuck around, and that's really like, right,
Speaker 4: and we're just doing something months that's up, dude.
Speaker 1: If I just caught that. I know.
Speaker 2: I was hype and I could do it, but the
Speaker 2: other of us got and I'm thinking, I'm gonna snatch
Speaker 2: this thing.
Speaker 1: Oh you lying, but yeah it is, Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say.
Speaker 2: I feel like, like if I'm a fan and I'm
Speaker 2: thinking about Taylor and chirping Taylor, like the holding calls
Speaker 2: and stuff like that, because I've I've kind of seen
Speaker 2: it happen, right like the first year it started. It
Speaker 2: was after my first year at the title. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: catch trace. But it's hilarious though. I mean, obviously I
Speaker 2: love this.
Speaker 4: So they'll blame you if Taylor does something bad.
Speaker 1: No, I mean I might get tagged and stuff. People
Speaker 1: won't like blame me.
Speaker 6: I might.
Speaker 2: They might barely say something, and then I'll make it
Speaker 2: seem like they're actually trying to blame me just to
Speaker 2: fucking have fun with it. But like, so the first
Speaker 2: time you got to see it, Taylor was coming off
Speaker 2: the ped suspension. That's when we first started the podcast,
Speaker 2: So Taylor was in a suspension.
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 2: I got hurt in New Orleans, so I wasn't playing
Speaker 2: either the first part of the year. So Taylor's going
Speaker 2: back and playing and he's you know, whether it's a
Speaker 2: holding penalty or jump a false art penalty or something
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: Like there's a lot of truth.
Speaker 2: It was very new is year one, right, and we
Speaker 2: were the only NFL to players doing that, and uh
Speaker 2: so there would be a lot of trips there to
Speaker 2: where like made you tight because it was our first
Speaker 2: year doing it.
Speaker 1: Even made me uncomfortable. I'm like, fuck, should we even.
Speaker 2: Be doing this right now that we've gotten used to
Speaker 2: it and it's it's been established, like Taylor proves that
Speaker 2: he does both things. Now, if you're a troll trying
Speaker 2: to get in, I won't say our heads like Taylor's
Speaker 2: head or something like that, or try to make it
Speaker 2: seem like something. You actually need to see him mess
Speaker 2: up for real to even say anything. Because now, like
Speaker 2: you know, the tier ones, like everybody out there understands
Speaker 2: the game and they understand if anybody says anything, everybody's
Speaker 2: jumping on this person, like let them know like that
Speaker 2: you're being a fucking idiot, right, do me a favor?
Speaker 1: Shut the fuck up? Type of yeah, right, If.
Speaker 2: I'm like, if I'm chirping in year one and now
Speaker 2: I've kind of cooled off because of whether we've snap
Speaker 2: back or people snap back at you. Now you actually
Speaker 2: need to see one of us fail to try and
Speaker 2: really reach in there and try to grind somebody's gears.
Speaker 1: That's how I kind of see the development over there.
Speaker 5: Right, because you have to interact with the audience or
Speaker 5: else you don't want to.
Speaker 1: Build it up.
Speaker 2: Oh you put it on, Nick Lombardi, the Titans gonna
Speaker 2: won by at least twenty eight points of Taylor One
Speaker 2: didn't have a podcast.
Speaker 5: That's It's like, you have to be active on social
Speaker 5: media to promote a podcast, so you're going to see
Speaker 5: that stuff. Otherwise I'd be like, dude, just completely ignore it,
Speaker 5: just go about your business. But you can't do that
Speaker 5: because you're trying to promote the podcast in the brand.
Speaker 4: And it's a super dramatic change for me. Like you're
Speaker 4: talking about turning it on and off like during the season.
Speaker 4: I'm kind of like not really on social media. I
Speaker 4: am on social media, but on like a normal person
Speaker 4: amount you know what I'm saying. Like right now, it's
Speaker 4: like a coble hours a day during the bars a day,
Speaker 4: and we fuck around. We treat we treated like a
Speaker 4: like a group text like We're always like chirping. All
Speaker 4: the boys are always talking and stuff like that, and
Speaker 4: it's just fun. Like the whole thing are you're just
Speaker 4: fighting chirps on this Twitter right now? I just feel
Speaker 4: like laughs in the back.
Speaker 1: What did you say, Oh, Taylor want podcast? Yeah? So like,
Speaker 1: but the thing that.
Speaker 4: Will was talking about that's super cool is like, as
Speaker 4: we've gotten going and like these year ones are kind
Speaker 4: of like just riding and dying with us, Like we
Speaker 4: have our own little like kind of squad that like
Speaker 4: just kind of loves us and we love them back,
Speaker 4: and they kind of just go for bat, like go
Speaker 4: to bat.
Speaker 1: For us, which is awesome. That's awesome. Weird. Week one
Speaker 1: was tough.
Speaker 2: Week one was Week one was hard. Taylor Jones and stuff.
Speaker 2: He's on the Cardinals. Their social media.
Speaker 4: Share social media posted a picture of Tandler Jones and
Speaker 4: it said h busting with the Boys on top of it.
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I go.
Speaker 4: Taylor Jones was with the boys Now the only game
Speaker 4: of my life where I was like, how do I
Speaker 4: get the fuck out of here?
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Taylor came back in the game,
Speaker 1: he got booed like it was fucking up there.
Speaker 2: I'm sitting up there like, oh shits sitting with my wife.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was it coming off the A C L.
Speaker 1: Was it just certain, like you.
Speaker 4: Know, I could go sit here and have a lot
Speaker 4: of excuses, like I think, like the strength, the conditioning,
Speaker 4: the confidence just wasn't there at that point.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And it took me, like I would say, almost half
Speaker 4: the season to kind of start feeling like okay, like
Speaker 4: I'm going back to doing my thing. But I was
Speaker 4: even telling Mike, just Mike on the podcast yesterday when
Speaker 4: he was on that you know, even at the end
Speaker 4: of the season, my leg's not as strong as it was,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, how am I blocking guys now?
Speaker 1: Like there was never like a true confidence during the season.
Speaker 1: Towards the end it got a whole lot better.
Speaker 4: But yeah, it was just it was just up and down,
Speaker 4: especially and there was a bunch of issues with the
Speaker 4: knee there. I had like a bunch of I got
Speaker 4: a toe thing at one point at the next thing,
Speaker 4: and it was just like a whole bunch of shit.
Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, like I can't, just I can't.
Speaker 4: I was the tourniquid at to stop the bleeding and
Speaker 4: so but it's been all that that's happened has made
Speaker 4: me much more present and grateful for what I'm doing now.
Speaker 1: Wow, because I wasn't allowed to.
Speaker 4: I couldn't even run till like June last year, And
Speaker 4: today I just ran a ship lo I, I damn
Speaker 4: near passed that on the football field, and I was like,
Speaker 4: this is just fucking awesome.
Speaker 1: It's just cool to do it and and like really
Speaker 1: enjoy it.
Speaker 4: And it's like the ebbs and flows of football, of
Speaker 4: anything you really do in life. Those lows make those
Speaker 4: highs feel so much better. I'm stoked. I'm stoked for
Speaker 4: this year. I think it's gonna be awesome. I think
Speaker 4: we got a squad on us. I think the Bills rip,
Speaker 4: but you know we won the last Everyone thought Rogers
Speaker 4: was going to go somewhere. I'm like, I know he
Speaker 4: ain't going to the a f C.
Speaker 1: He's not. He's not popping over there to compete with
Speaker 1: all those It's crazy. AFC's like the juggernaut right now,
Speaker 1: I know it. It's wild. It got Brady didn't jump over.
Speaker 1: West is a juggernaut.
Speaker 5: If I was playing offensive line in the a f C, West,
Speaker 5: I would just be like just trade me. You know
Speaker 5: what I mean if you're a tackle out there. I
Speaker 5: mean they've picked up so many pass rushers.
Speaker 4: Out there, Leil Mack and Joey Boss on the Chargers,
Speaker 4: you got Chandler and uh, your boy Crosby on the Raiders.
Speaker 4: You got Frank Clark and Chris Jones on the Chiefs.
Speaker 4: And then who's the last one in that division, Denver
Speaker 4: and you got Bradley Chubb over there too. Yeah, it's
Speaker 4: a fucking studs. Like, hey, boys, buckle your fucking chin
Speaker 4: straps a little tighter.
Speaker 1: Good luck on the inside, it's not. In fact, the
Speaker 1: Titans play the a FC West is here nice especially
Speaker 1: I get trade.
Speaker 5: Bill's brought in von Miller and I was stoked about that.
Speaker 5: I love Vaughn, loved him forever.
Speaker 1: He thought on Vina, where is that his crew right now?
Speaker 5: Well, I think the Bills are as good as anybody
Speaker 5: at managing players' bodies. They brought in my last year,
Speaker 5: they brought in these this. I don't think there are
Speaker 5: a couple, but a male and a female. Both their
Speaker 5: names are Joe Joe and Joe Sure. They're both from London.
Speaker 5: They worked in Premier League soccer forever managing player's body.
Speaker 5: So they came in and basically oversaw everything, and they're like, no,
Speaker 5: I think these guys any more.
Speaker 1: Rest days and all that.
Speaker 5: Like if you watch the Bills injury port throughout the week,
Speaker 5: they give more players rest days than anybody in the league.
Speaker 5: Stefan Diggs, everyone's like, man, he's having a down year
Speaker 5: last year. Well, they managed like even his catches throughout
Speaker 5: the year, like they didn't want they only wanted him
Speaker 5: get a certain amount of touches. I think this wasn't public,
Speaker 5: but I believe it was because they don't only want
Speaker 5: to get him certain amount touches. And they asked Josh
Speaker 5: Allen about it, and he like didn't say it wasn't
Speaker 5: the case, so you just assume it probably was. But
Speaker 5: like they even manage his touches. So all that being said,
Speaker 5: the Bills in nemesist this year was past rush period.
Speaker 5: If they had eight guy like eight quality defensive lineman.
Speaker 5: But as you know, like one superstar in the D line.
Speaker 5: You'd rather face a team with one superstar or sorry,
Speaker 5: eight quality guys than a team with like three scrubs
Speaker 5: out there and one superstar because you got the game
Speaker 5: plan all around him. We had no one you truly
Speaker 5: had a game plan for, and you could probably tell
Speaker 5: me if I'm wrong there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Addison, I think Addison's got a nice little bag
Speaker 4: of tricks for sure. I think Jerry Hughes, even in
Speaker 4: year twelve a super slippery quality like, does a great
Speaker 4: job especially against the play action pass. Like he doesn't
Speaker 4: necessarily butt you up every time in the run game.
Speaker 4: So in play action when you're trying to go get him,
Speaker 4: he makes the inside move. That's a tough Yeah, that's
Speaker 4: a tough deal. So you gotta be aware of that
Speaker 4: stuff a lot. But the way you guys cycled the
Speaker 4: guys in and now, I think Jerry Hughes when we
Speaker 4: played J'aell had the most amount of snaps of the
Speaker 4: defensive line.
Speaker 1: That was fifty five percent. Wow.
Speaker 4: So and you guys just had a slew. Do I
Speaker 4: think that rookie? I think he was either a rookie
Speaker 4: lot or so.
Speaker 1: Yes.
Speaker 4: And then aj Panessa at Panessa, I think he got
Speaker 4: a whole lot better. I was watching against Miami. Now,
Speaker 4: Miami didn't have the best offensive line, right yeah, And
Speaker 4: that's you your words, not mine, But I don't agree disagree,
Speaker 4: and I think he was he was doing.
Speaker 1: When I was watching film, I was like.
Speaker 4: Holy fucked, yeah, this dude is just putting dudes in
Speaker 4: a blender right now. Like he had some moves, good,
Speaker 4: nice double arm swipe, had get bender on the edge.
Speaker 1: But I think a guy like Vaughn, you.
Speaker 5: Know, they track everything nowadays, so like his snap to
Speaker 5: get off was one of the fastest in the league,
Speaker 5: So like that's one of his strengths was just get off.
Speaker 1: Anyways, I think come.
Speaker 5: Playoff time next year, von Miller can be a difference
Speaker 5: maker to get to the quarterback. And that's what the Bills,
Speaker 5: That's what ultimately got him against the Chiefs. Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 5: could just run around back there and it just ended
Speaker 5: up being a shootout in the Bills defenses wore out
Speaker 5: and both defenses wore wore out. You got twenty five
Speaker 5: points scored in a minute and fifty seven seconds, but
Speaker 5: both defenses were completely wore out. So whoever was going
Speaker 5: to be whoever had the ball in overtime was gonna win.
Speaker 5: Both those defensive wore out. You get a pass rusher
Speaker 5: like von Miller that can change some things in the playoffs.
Speaker 5: It was interesting. You sign a thirty three year old
Speaker 5: to a six year contract, Brandon being the wizard. I'm
Speaker 5: sure you know there's something there where it's like, Okay,
Speaker 5: if he retires, then all the rest of the cap
Speaker 5: hits off the books.
Speaker 1: You know how it's structured.
Speaker 4: I'm sure because because if he's thirty nine at the
Speaker 4: end of that contract, right, it had to be either.
Speaker 4: It seemed like it was a team from the deal too, though,
Speaker 4: like looking at the numbers and where everything was signing
Speaker 4: bonus and all that against the cap.
Speaker 1: Like you said, Buddy's a wizard. Yeah, so he was
Speaker 1: out there killing it. I know. I love Brandon Bean,
Speaker 1: So is that what you think?
Speaker 4: You think if the Bills got the ball first and
Speaker 4: that overtime, Bills win that game.
Speaker 1: Over, game over, both chances.
Speaker 5: Both defenses were so gassed, like they could hardly move.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean both Josh Allen and Mahomes were just
Speaker 2: going back and forth.
Speaker 1: Though, you know, is there too much time on the clock?
Speaker 1: Oh and that was there too much on the clock?
Speaker 1: Just back.
Speaker 4: Yeah, But the way Mahomes came and tie the game
Speaker 4: up at the end, incredible.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: But the way Josh, oh no, it was all it
Speaker 4: was all fucking insane and who had the ball less
Speaker 4: in regulation?
Speaker 5: So the Bills scored with thirteen seconds left, that's right,
Speaker 5: and they're up three and Tony Romo and they kicked
Speaker 5: it in the end zone allowed a touch back, which
Speaker 5: don't do the games coach has been fired. You know,
Speaker 5: not to speculate, but there apparently there was a miscommunication
Speaker 5: somewhere along the line. The kick as still on the
Speaker 5: team the special teams coach, isn't they kick it in
Speaker 5: the end zone so you don't waste any time there,
Speaker 5: And then they played off defense and let them just
Speaker 5: get up the field.
Speaker 1: And then man, it even.
Speaker 5: Hurts like to watch just because I love Sean McDermot
Speaker 5: and Brandon Bean so much.
Speaker 1: Like they gave Sean McDermot was there my last year.
Speaker 5: I was the first player being extended or gave a
Speaker 5: contract to in Buffalo as me, and so like.
Speaker 4: I actually like those dudes. I know you like to,
Speaker 4: but so I know how much it means to them.
Speaker 5: But to like watch the micd up situation where Travis
Speaker 5: Kelsey was like, Hey, I'm actually not gonna do it.
Speaker 5: Andy Reid just called like like look at their defense.
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna run up the seam. Just throw it
Speaker 5: to me.
Speaker 4: I'll get down and we get a field goal to
Speaker 4: tie it. So Jesus wild. Yeah, that had to hurt.
Speaker 4: It was one of the best games to watch it. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I was calling the game, and you know, I thought
Speaker 4: the Bills were out of it, and then they.
Speaker 5: Just go back and forth. In the fourth quarter, they
Speaker 5: get back in and take the lead. But you know,
Speaker 5: the city of Buffalo is just starving for a championship.
Speaker 5: And after the way Josh Allen played against the Patriots,
Speaker 5: they smoke him forty five to seven places.
Speaker 1: That was a wild dude, Josh Allen.
Speaker 5: And he's been to three playoff appearances, not like it's
Speaker 5: just won. In three playoff appearances, he has a fourteen
Speaker 5: to one touchdown interception ratio, which is like, by far
Speaker 5: the best in NFL history. Obviously, he's a students, a gamer,
Speaker 5: sounds one of my favorite people in the world, and
Speaker 5: he won me over for life. So this is two
Speaker 5: years ago, my son's birthdays in January, and so I
Speaker 5: texted Josh, like I didn't even overlap with Josh once,
Speaker 5: but we worked with the same hospital up there, our
Speaker 5: foundations all that and we've become buddies. But like, I'm
Speaker 5: the radio guy up there, like that's what he knows me.
Speaker 5: I was like, I'm the color guy in the radio,
Speaker 5: and so I texted him. I said it it's like
Speaker 5: a Monday during the playoff week. I said, Hey, for
Speaker 5: some reason, my son, he's three, he's obsessed with you.
Speaker 5: He thinks you're coming to his birthday party. If you
Speaker 5: could just shoot me a quick video, I'd appreciate it.
Speaker 5: If you ignore this text, I'll never think anything different
Speaker 5: of you. Good luck in the game this week, No
Speaker 5: worries either way. Sends me a video and then he goes, wait, wait,
Speaker 5: I can do better, sends another one that's like longer
Speaker 5: and better, and I'm like, that kid gets it, you
Speaker 5: know what I mean, Like to do something little like
Speaker 5: that for someone who could talks about him every week,
Speaker 5: controls a lot of media and opinion through my social
Speaker 5: media in Buffalo, and like that was he gets it.
Speaker 5: And he was twenty three years old at the time.
Speaker 5: Twenty four years old. Yeah, that's a great kid.
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Speaker 1: going from player to media?
Speaker 2: Guy? Like is that something in the maybe in the
Speaker 2: beginning more so than now, Like it was always in
Speaker 2: the back of your mind, Like I have to have
Speaker 2: this kind of take because in the media game, like
Speaker 2: you've got to build credibility. To get credibility, you got
Speaker 2: to have like actual honesty, like you got to be objective,
Speaker 2: like you got to remove the emotion of these are
Speaker 2: my boys, but you know, you gotta do your thing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Now, it's good that there was a ton of turnover,
Speaker 5: Like I was out a season full season and then
Speaker 5: came back eighty percent of the roster it changed, so
Speaker 5: that that helped. But like, they don't pay me enough
Speaker 5: to be hypercritical of those guys that make hard takes
Speaker 5: on them all the time. Like I'm never going to
Speaker 5: trash the guys. But it was weird because yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: your body's got a price. Everybody's got a price.
Speaker 1: To Romo money. I'll talk wrap on anybody. Yeah, I respect,
Speaker 1: I respect that hustle.
Speaker 5: But I'm like, dude, I'm I'm up here having fun.
Speaker 5: Like we're the Bills Radio broadcast, so like I'm I'm
Speaker 5: gonna be pretty you know, I'm a Bill's homer.
Speaker 1: On this broadcasts.
Speaker 5: When I was with ESPN for those couple of years,
Speaker 5: I'm calling college games like I'm not going to tear
Speaker 5: down these college kids. Now, I'll say if something was
Speaker 5: dumb or man, he should have made that catch er,
Speaker 5: that's a bad throw. But I'm not going to like
Speaker 5: attack a kid like, oh this kid, you know, he's lazy.
Speaker 5: Watch this like I would if I was watching film.
Speaker 5: We're in sitting in the old line room watching film.
Speaker 5: Totally different than when you're calling a.
Speaker 4: Game, like you're not on everybody, Yes, exactly, like, oh,
Speaker 4: this dude's terrible, especially the old line too. That's crazy
Speaker 4: that because when you watch the d line, you're kind
Speaker 4: of respecting them watching when they do. Yeah, you watch
Speaker 4: other offensive line and you're like, what the fuck is
Speaker 4: this guy doing?
Speaker 1: Man? Right, why is he so lazy? Why is he
Speaker 1: so this? Yeah, But like I feel like.
Speaker 2: That's ever a position like for real, Well, you'll watch guys,
Speaker 2: you watch backers, and your coach will be getting off
Speaker 2: to some by and here's me thinking like, yeah, they're
Speaker 2: doing nothing like you.
Speaker 1: You custed your ass off when.
Speaker 2: I was doing something similar to this the other day.
Speaker 2: But all of a sudden, he's doing it. All of
Speaker 2: a Sudden's the greatest thing in the world, right, will
Speaker 2: probably who probably hate on like Quentin Nelson, like oh
Speaker 2: he gets this, he gets that, he gets away with this,
Speaker 2: but it's just like you know.
Speaker 5: Right, But on the transition to the media, it got
Speaker 5: me Like the first time I went to like one
Speaker 5: of like the old line dinners the night before the game,
Speaker 5: or we were on the road and they invited me
Speaker 5: out to eat with them and then they started talking
Speaker 5: and they like pulled back because they thought I might
Speaker 5: like tweet it, or I'm like whoaa, whoaah, like nothing
Speaker 5: we ever say, Like I will never compromise a conversation
Speaker 5: ever with a player coach, like even like showing that
Speaker 5: picture of Fitzpatrick, like fitz doesn't care, Like that's not
Speaker 5: like bad by any means or whatever, but like even there,
Speaker 5: I'm like like I don't ever want to like put
Speaker 5: people's business out in the streets. And like you know,
Speaker 5: I'll have coaches text me stuff before the game or
Speaker 5: I'll talk to him on the field, like unless it's
Speaker 5: like a positive thing about a player, that's like building
Speaker 5: someone up throughout the broadcast, like I'll never ever ever
Speaker 5: mention it because once you once you blow that trust,
Speaker 5: once it's over and then you're sitting at a meal
Speaker 5: and everyone's like kind of clamming up because oh he
Speaker 5: would's here and you know he's he's on the call
Speaker 5: tomorrow media and like cause pre covid, I would go
Speaker 5: to all their meals. Like mcdermot's like, dude, if you
Speaker 5: want to work out in our weight room, you like
Speaker 5: you oh yeah, He's like, man, you just make yourself
Speaker 5: at home. I mean my wife and his wife were
Speaker 5: going to games together my last year, like traveling together,
Speaker 5: and then boom career ends and so we're all still
Speaker 5: kind of buddies and all that. But like it was like,
Speaker 5: make yourself at home. So I'm like in the meal room,
Speaker 5: people are like do I sit by him? You know
Speaker 5: it's like you know he's gonna go down and do
Speaker 5: one Bill's Live after this, you know our TV show
Speaker 5: that we do, Like is he gonna say something if
Speaker 5: I I'm like never, Like, let's just get that crystal clear,
Speaker 5: Like none of that's ever gonna happen.
Speaker 1: That's awesome, that's good. That's a good characteristic to have.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but but it's like you blow the trust once
Speaker 5: and then like honestly, it's like like as a former player,
Speaker 5: like you never want that to like like you would
Speaker 5: never I would never want to turn years worth of
Speaker 5: a reputation off of like picking up a few Twitter
Speaker 5: followers or something.
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, some guys get off on that though. I
Speaker 4: know some like just going off the media we have here.
Speaker 4: There's a lot of great people in our media, especially
Speaker 4: at local media, but there's a couple of guys that
Speaker 4: just are dying to soil somebody.
Speaker 1: I know. I just love the chaos, each.
Speaker 2: A little bit of like an angle, and then you
Speaker 2: can make it into something, making it something huge.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I Uh, let's get into your career a little bit,
Speaker 2: because you've had, like you had quite the career. You
Speaker 2: played nine years at one spot, which is rare. It's
Speaker 2: like we were talking about yesterday with Mike when he
Speaker 2: was on the podcast, like Taylor has been with one
Speaker 2: team his entire career, Like that's a rare thing to have.
Speaker 1: And you had just re signed an extension what was
Speaker 1: it five years.
Speaker 5: Signed a two year extension, so that would have put
Speaker 5: me through year eleven.
Speaker 2: Got you, and so I was way off, good, way off,
Speaker 2: So completely way off. But uh, you had an incredible
Speaker 2: career man, a pro boy, and you were stud Like
Speaker 2: I remember you, you did talk like you were scrappy,
Speaker 2: that you and incognito. Incognito this day between him and Roger,
Speaker 2: the heaviest hands.
Speaker 1: I've ever felt heavy hands.
Speaker 2: But you suddenly had to end your career because of
Speaker 2: a neck injury. Like tell us about that story.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So twenty seventeen, we break the longest playoff drought
Speaker 5: in all professional sports.
Speaker 1: Everyone thought we.
Speaker 5: Were tanking going into that season, and everyone thought I
Speaker 5: was a dumbass, but I signed the contract extension when
Speaker 5: everyone thinks we're tanking. But like we're sitting there, we
Speaker 5: got shady Kyle Williams, Tyrod Taylor's good quarterback, Richie's there.
Speaker 5: I'm like, man, we got some pieces like said, like
Speaker 5: this isn't a true tank, Like yes, we traded Sammy
Speaker 5: and Marcel and Ronald Darby, but like those dudes didn't
Speaker 5: fit McDermott's personality and they never were going to like
Speaker 5: those dudes's watkins. Yeah, yeah, like they're just not gonna
Speaker 5: see eye on. So anyways, sign a contract extension. Play
Speaker 5: every single snap that season, including the playoff game. One
Speaker 5: of the only players in the NFL to play every
Speaker 5: single snap that year. Because your shoe can fall off,
Speaker 5: you get heard you're beating a team too.
Speaker 1: Bad.
Speaker 5: You're losing too bad, Like you get taken out for
Speaker 5: so many diferent reasons. In the NFL, I played every
Speaker 5: single snap that year. I'm an alternate for the Pro Bowl?
Speaker 3: Was it that?
Speaker 1: After an injury too? So? Oh?
Speaker 5: I had a ton of injuries, bro curious and my
Speaker 5: rookie year, I did the Joe thaismand leg break.
Speaker 1: You're three. I did a CM compound fracture. Yeah, holy ship.
Speaker 5: Right from the field to an ambulance to surgery four days.
Speaker 4: Later, fly back to Buffalo and we and that was like,
Speaker 4: let's put a pin in that and just how that happen. Yeah,
Speaker 4: So I'm blocking for Ryan Fitzpatrick, former teammate of mine.
Speaker 5: You can find it on YouTube if you want to
Speaker 5: pull it up, might as well. But uh, former teammate
Speaker 5: of mine at Louisville Montaviou. Stand at least playing de
Speaker 5: tackle for the Jaguars, And I just got a dude
Speaker 5: locked up and just standing there with him. Dies for
Speaker 5: fitz fitz makes a miss, goes through the side of
Speaker 5: my leg. I had never been hurt in my life.
Speaker 5: And we were earlier in that game. A guy left
Speaker 5: the field, came back in. We were making fun of him,
Speaker 5: and so I was like, all right, I gotta get
Speaker 5: up because I don't want everyone to make fun of
Speaker 5: me if I come back in.
Speaker 1: Everyone's like, you didn't know that it was fucking out? No,
Speaker 1: it was. It was this so the bone was out
Speaker 1: of the skin, so.
Speaker 5: It was a community which actually were so it was
Speaker 5: it breaks in half, the skin stays out there, and
Speaker 5: that actually made me have to stay in Jacksonville longer
Speaker 5: because it creates this like huge bubble on your leg.
Speaker 1: But anyways, so here you go. Oh bro, I don't
Speaker 1: know if I really want to see this. Oh fuck yeah.
Speaker 1: So that was a good one. Think too. By the way,
Speaker 1: you're in phenomenal shape now, yeah, I appreciate it. That
Speaker 1: was about three hundred and sixteen pounds there. I was heavy.
Speaker 1: All right, that's good, yeah, snapper dude. So anyways, so
Speaker 1: do that go straight to the hospital.
Speaker 4: Wait, you're chilling holding How did you react to that?
Speaker 4: You were like, oh, I should get up.
Speaker 5: I was trying to push myself off the ground and
Speaker 5: then realized that it was pretty bad.
Speaker 1: And now how did you react to that?
Speaker 4: Were you freaking out when really hurting?
Speaker 1: Ended up really hurting? And then uh, it ended up
Speaker 1: really hurting. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, watch the YouTube video of it with the surgeons
Speaker 5: before I went into surgery.
Speaker 1: Wake up in the middle of the night, have no
Speaker 1: idea where I'm in.
Speaker 5: Where I'm at in a pitch black hospital room, and
Speaker 5: I'm like, I'm sweating my ass off, and I'm like
Speaker 5: the drugs.
Speaker 1: I just started yelling.
Speaker 5: I'm like, I literally have no idea where I am
Speaker 5: right and like I don't see like a call button
Speaker 5: or anything.
Speaker 1: So I just started yelling. Nurses come in, flip on
Speaker 1: the lights.
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, look down, I'm in the same compression
Speaker 5: chores I played the game in and Jacksonville. I was
Speaker 5: like like, all right, this is disgusting. I was like,
Speaker 5: all right, need the ac down, need some new underwear,
Speaker 5: probably a bath where am I like like just start
Speaker 5: my rud we know, like where's my phone?
Speaker 1: Like what the hell is going on right now?
Speaker 5: Is the middle of the night and uh so, anyways,
Speaker 5: I was down there for four days and ended up
Speaker 5: making back started the first game of the season the next.
Speaker 4: Year because that was in Weeke ten, Like you fucking yeah,
Speaker 4: what is a what is like a regular recovery for that?
Speaker 1: Like it all kind of depends.
Speaker 5: So like with bones, once they healed, you're pretty confident
Speaker 5: about it. Like when I did my ACL, like I
Speaker 5: didn't feel like real confident that sucker for about eighteen months. Yeah,
Speaker 5: you know, Like I'm like, man, it just kind of
Speaker 5: feels weak, like not as flexible, not as strong, like
Speaker 5: is this thing good?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 5: And like acls are so obscure. It's like this little
Speaker 5: bitty deal I can just wreck your life. So you're like,
Speaker 5: is it good?
Speaker 4: Like once that once they boy blost back there just
Speaker 4: towards ACL two days ago.
Speaker 1: That recovery sucks.
Speaker 4: But I'm sorry, but I'm my heart's going out to
Speaker 4: the boy the whole time.
Speaker 5: But like they put a rotten screws in my leg,
Speaker 5: like that sucker was good.
Speaker 1: Now it didn't hurt, It didn't hurt that bad.
Speaker 5: Now you're not weight bearing for twelve weeks, so you're
Speaker 5: completely atrophied. I went from three six I went from
Speaker 5: three sixteen to two seventy eight quick?
Speaker 1: Just how fast? How fast is that? Three weeks?
Speaker 4: Okay, hey, I lost like thirty forty pounds, not forty
Speaker 4: thirty pounds in MYICL.
Speaker 1: That's a good three week.
Speaker 5: That's a great sign for post career, but it sucks
Speaker 5: when you're in the moment because then you had to
Speaker 5: get all that and some of it's you know, waterway
Speaker 5: and all that, and you get that muscle back quick.
Speaker 5: But yeah, thirty seven pounds or something, and then they
Speaker 5: put me back in the hospital for dehydration all that. No, Yeah,
Speaker 5: that was that was That was a tough one. And
Speaker 5: then I got hurt in week ten or eleven, four
Speaker 5: straight years to start my career, did the did the
Speaker 5: Joe thisman? Second year high ankle spring, third year ACL,
Speaker 5: fourth year mcl all in week ten or eleven.
Speaker 4: Hey, at one point you I'd be like, hey, I'm
Speaker 4: not playing those going into like contract years.
Speaker 5: Well yeah, yeah, so and then I'm heading So at
Speaker 5: that time, all first rounders had to sign a five
Speaker 5: year deal, So the Bills extended me before the next season.
Speaker 5: But it was a really heavy playing time incentive because
Speaker 5: I was like, look, I want to make top three
Speaker 5: center money. I'm resigning before mac he was another first
Speaker 5: round of that year, like he's gonna jump me as
Speaker 5: soon as I sign.
Speaker 1: So like, I don't want to sign like some.
Speaker 5: Team super like low deal that has you know, no
Speaker 5: risk to it like, I'll bet on myself.
Speaker 1: That's fine. I'd deserve the money if I'm not playing anyways.
Speaker 5: And then I go on to start fifty two straight
Speaker 5: games and earn it all, which was great. And then
Speaker 5: in twenty sixteen, break my other leg a Monday night
Speaker 5: football in Seattle on the goal line going left, smart too,
Speaker 5: the defensive line slanted this way. I'm trying to get
Speaker 5: through to the second level and bear defense, and the
Speaker 5: whole whole line collapses down on me. So break your
Speaker 5: other leg, break my other leg, mon night football heading
Speaker 5: into the bye week too.
Speaker 1: So you got all these players, I don't need to
Speaker 1: see it. And then you fly back and then you
Speaker 1: last video fucked me up, and then you.
Speaker 4: Fly back from Seattle six hours to Buffalo through the night.
Speaker 5: Luckily at that time they made something legal out there
Speaker 5: that a bunch of the guys on the team were
Speaker 5: like kind of hooked me up. On the way home
Speaker 5: and Rex Ryan walked up to me, he goes, how
Speaker 5: you feeling, E. I was like a lot better than
Speaker 5: I should right now, Yeah, like a lot better than
Speaker 5: I should. He's like, all right, take me out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm all good, but uh, Heroin's different.
Speaker 5: Yeah, what you're saying exactly, Yeah, yeah, the hard stuff
Speaker 5: and so break my leg. So all that being said,
Speaker 5: battle through injuries my whole career that year, play every
Speaker 5: single snap, feel great, Like, got some stingers throughout the year,
Speaker 5: but like our high school buddy's got stingers, Like everyone
Speaker 5: gets stingers in the NFL, Like, yeah, who cares hurt
Speaker 5: though it does. And when you play enter in your
Speaker 5: right hands and them like, that's a different feeling heading
Speaker 5: into a play and you're like, can't really feel the ball,
Speaker 5: but I'll get it back there.
Speaker 1: It's all good. Yeah. But uh so I got.
Speaker 5: These singers where they're like, let's get new around your neck,
Speaker 5: just make sure everything's good. And I was like, okay,
Speaker 5: well I have to get home right now. My son's
Speaker 5: about to be born. So getting a Mari drive back
Speaker 5: to Louisville. Two days later, sitting in the delivery room.
Speaker 5: My son's born. Fifty minutes after I get the phone
Speaker 5: call that my career's over even with surgery. You know,
Speaker 5: we've consulted with everybody. No one will ever pass you
Speaker 5: for a physical again, no team in the league will,
Speaker 5: And just freaking rocked my world. So I think we're
Speaker 5: trying to figure out travel plans to the Pro Bowl
Speaker 5: because there was two AFC centers, both in the playoffs
Speaker 5: still that were Pro Bowlers, so like there was like
Speaker 5: a ninety percent chance I was going to pop in there,
Speaker 5: and they might not even want to play anyways, So
Speaker 5: we're trying to figure out how we're gonna get a
Speaker 5: two week old to the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 1: And it's said, my career is over, and like, and
Speaker 1: you just got that MRI just because you have you
Speaker 1: had stinger hits. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I was the only player on the team that late
Speaker 5: every single snap that year. Yeah, so like so I
Speaker 5: know it and no one else does. And it was
Speaker 5: well like our family knew, but like me and my
Speaker 5: wife knew, but like no one else. And my wife's
Speaker 5: crying in the hospital bed after I told her, and
Speaker 5: not like mad, just like sad and emotional and I
Speaker 5: have a baby, you know, you guys know the emotions
Speaker 5: of that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the nurse imagine telling my wife. She's in the
Speaker 1: middle of trying to.
Speaker 4: Like, well, we knew went through and you're like, hey,
Speaker 4: but I'm also we got to find a new job
Speaker 4: because it wears over.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: They were like, hey, we're gonna call we have some
Speaker 5: serious news. So we knew something, so like she was
Speaker 5: like telling me, I want to know. So the nurse
Speaker 5: comes in and was like, baby, it's not going to
Speaker 5: hurt that bad.
Speaker 1: I promise. My wife's like, it's not about the baby,
Speaker 1: like we exactly.
Speaker 5: So anyway, so that that was like a pretty wild
Speaker 5: four or five months because the Bills wouldn't cut me
Speaker 5: because as soon as they cut me, my full cap
Speaker 5: hit was gonna come in. Like I was the second
Speaker 5: highest paid center in the league my first year out
Speaker 5: of the league because I just had signed that extension
Speaker 5: and so as soon as they cut me, all that
Speaker 5: hits and then they can't go sign free agents. Right, well,
Speaker 5: if i go get a job or anything, then I'm retired.
Speaker 5: If I'm retired, I don't get all that injury guarantee.
Speaker 5: And so literally I'm just like living in obscurity. I'm
Speaker 5: losing weight, but I'm like not trying to see anybody
Speaker 5: or tell anybody, Like I'm not on social media much
Speaker 5: because I'm just trying to be like, hey, as soon
Speaker 5: as they cut me, I'll come back and I'll try
Speaker 5: and get a broadcast gig. That's part of the reason
Speaker 5: I didn't have a media gig my first year out
Speaker 5: was because I couldn't even take a job. Really, it
Speaker 5: didn't cut me till June, June first, I guess May
Speaker 5: thirty first, June first, and so I'm just sitting there
Speaker 5: in limbo. Like I showed up at Jim Kelly's golf tournament,
Speaker 5: which was in May. That was the first time, like
Speaker 5: anybody had seen me in five months, and I'm like
Speaker 5: fifty five pounds down. Everyone's like, oh, you're done.
Speaker 1: Done.
Speaker 5: I'm like, yeah, I was never athletic enough to play
Speaker 5: tight end. I couldn't even start in my high school
Speaker 5: at tight end. So yeah, I'm really done.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, that's crazy. Ye know, that is fucking emostly, like,
Speaker 4: what was that process like for you, dealing with that.
Speaker 2: You're a pro bowler, like everyone's speculating and you're about
Speaker 2: to go like you're about to go to another one.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Everyone. I loved ball.
Speaker 5: Like that's another thing too, Like there's a lot of
Speaker 5: dudes in the league that don't love ball like I
Speaker 5: loved it, Like I loved watching film, I loved going
Speaker 5: to the stadium, I love I loved practice like I
Speaker 5: loved it all and so for me, like it was
Speaker 5: a big hit, and you know, honestly and at that time,
Speaker 5: like I had, you know, luckily, I have a great
Speaker 5: family and buddies in this foundation, my faith, and like
Speaker 5: so early on you're like, yeah, God, I know you
Speaker 5: have great plans for me, Like I can't wait to
Speaker 5: see what you do next. And then like four months
Speaker 5: in and you're just kind of like hanging out, losing weight.
Speaker 5: You know, you're like, Okay, this kind of sucks now.
Speaker 5: And then when I saw pictures of them back at
Speaker 5: OTAs because I used to love OTA's, like I love
Speaker 5: to play golf. We'd go up there and you know,
Speaker 5: you work out till noon and then it's like hang
Speaker 5: out with the boys all afternoon, fly home Thursdays, see
Speaker 5: the family again.
Speaker 1: Like OTA's was a ton of fun.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I see them all those Bota's, I was like, oh,
Speaker 4: it's real, Like yeah, well.
Speaker 5: I'm not heading back there anymore. So it sucked it,
Speaker 5: truly did. I went through the first game that the Bills,
Speaker 5: like the first game that I wasn't in, you know,
Speaker 5: in a decade, and they played APT Baltimore and they
Speaker 5: lost like forty seven to three, it's pouring down rain.
Speaker 5: We're up in the club just crushing beers, me and
Speaker 5: a few of my boys, and like everyone's like, is this,
Speaker 5: like do you feel better now? Is like, honestly no,
Speaker 5: because I'd rather just be in that locker room piste
Speaker 5: off right now than sitting here drinking beers with you guys,
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, Like, yes, these games suck,
Speaker 5: but like, like I don't ever get to like even
Speaker 5: just feel that in the locker room again. And that's
Speaker 5: that's part of the thing about media too, Like when
Speaker 5: you're calling a game, especially calling college games. It's part
Speaker 5: of the reason I moved on from calling those college games,
Speaker 5: like you don't care who wins, and like you have
Speaker 5: no emotion tied to it at all. And I was
Speaker 5: calling mainly ACC games. Not a lot of good ball
Speaker 5: in the ACC going right now, so you don't even
Speaker 5: get that like the great You don't get like the
Speaker 5: great atmosphere either. And I was like, man, this is
Speaker 5: like just not quite doing it for me right now.
Speaker 5: Like I'd rather be in either one of those locker rooms,
Speaker 5: you know, win or lose. I'd rather be in either
Speaker 5: one of those locker rooms than stay on this field
Speaker 5: or in this booth calling this game right now.
Speaker 1: But I also don't want to do the coaching hours.
Speaker 5: As you guys know, it's hard to be a dad
Speaker 5: and a husband and this gotta be a little different now,
Speaker 5: no doubt about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what was? So?
Speaker 4: What was would it end up being like what the
Speaker 4: doctors told you happened to your neck? What would made
Speaker 4: it like career ending?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 5: So I had disc and bones sitting into my spinal
Speaker 5: cord and it was at C two C three, So
Speaker 5: like if it was lower at four or five like
Speaker 5: Peyton Manning had next surgery and came back and played
Speaker 5: his was lower, it's more stable at C two C three.
Speaker 5: Any surgery up there, they'll just end your career because
Speaker 5: it's so unstable and you lose everything below in the
Speaker 5: spinal cord whatever, like you injure, it damages everything down.
Speaker 5: So that's paraplegia, loss of respiratory function, and so it's
Speaker 5: a real shit. Yeah, Like that's not like lose feeling
Speaker 5: in your legs, you know, which would be awful. But yeah,
Speaker 5: but they were like that was the Ryan Shazier had
Speaker 5: his deal where he was face down on the turf
Speaker 5: and They're like, we have no idea. One of those
Speaker 5: hits him put you face down the turf. But you're
Speaker 5: just lucky.
Speaker 1: You're lucky, saying because they just saw from an MRI.
Speaker 2: It's like kind of like, oh, thank god we got
Speaker 2: an MRI because you would have continued playing it.
Speaker 1: You weren't feeling anything wrong with you, right, I know it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, everyone's like, man, you should feel so fortunate that
Speaker 5: you got out when you did. And look, I would
Speaker 5: have played to the wheels fell off and I get
Speaker 5: to play golf. I can still work out, I play
Speaker 5: with my kids like I love balls.
Speaker 1: I would have played to the wheels.
Speaker 5: Fell off, just ignorant, and every year would have been, hey,
Speaker 5: we got to go win the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Then we win to super Bowl. He was like, let's
Speaker 1: go win another one. That was awesome.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So I would have just kept playing. So I
Speaker 5: believe God got me out when he wanted to. And honestly,
Speaker 5: that first four or five months sucked. It did, but
Speaker 5: I swear each year's gotten better than the last. I
Speaker 5: got a podcast, What's Next with Eric Wood. I have
Speaker 5: a ton of fun doing that, get to do stuff
Speaker 5: like this. We travel a bunch, work hard, in the
Speaker 5: falls calling games and whatnot, and then tone it back
Speaker 5: and travel litle bit in the off season. Get to
Speaker 5: take my kids to school, pick them up when I
Speaker 5: want to, and I'm not golfing or that's all on
Speaker 5: some stuff.
Speaker 1: Got some investments going. So it's been a ton of fun.
Speaker 5: But man, that that transition's real, and for guys to
Speaker 5: transition out in the NFL to have other guys that
Speaker 5: can talk to, like, you know, we got buddies that
Speaker 5: are going, you know, through transitions all the time from
Speaker 5: the league.
Speaker 1: Like it sucks, but no one.
Speaker 5: But the thing about it is you can't talk to
Speaker 5: your buddies about it because they're like, look, you have
Speaker 5: more money than you know what to do with, right,
Speaker 5: and you get to stay home now, Like what's wrong
Speaker 5: with that?
Speaker 4: Like like some of your buddies are still like they
Speaker 4: don't want to hear most of every buddy, You're right,
Speaker 4: they don't care to hear it.
Speaker 1: They don't want to hear it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like they don't Like your wife doesn't have anyone
Speaker 5: to talk to because you know, my wife leslie like
Speaker 5: her girlfriends like they don't want to hear her talk
Speaker 5: about like well, you know, and Eric's at home helping
Speaker 5: out all the time now, and you.
Speaker 1: Know, I think we're gonna go travel again. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: golfing and just can't. But it's interesting again, yeah, you.
Speaker 5: Like they don't want to hear that, like, but like
Speaker 5: it's hard on the wife too. Like we had a
Speaker 5: house in Buffalo, we had family, and you know, we
Speaker 5: had friends that felt like family up there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you're in it, when you got the camaraderie
Speaker 1: with the boys, and like you said, it was nothing better.
Speaker 2: I remember like in Washington, did you know Corey lichtenstagger
Speaker 2: at all? I m But we just had a group
Speaker 2: of guys where we're it's the same thing. We're golfing
Speaker 2: after practice every day, like when you're in it, because
Speaker 2: again you were there nine years. Like right, it's gotta
Speaker 2: just it's gotta suck. And I was talking one time
Speaker 2: with my buddy a mereb Doula. He's had a podcast
Speaker 2: on here, but uh yeah, monster wrench.
Speaker 5: But he's the president, the biggest of whoever had the
Speaker 5: biggest he's the no.
Speaker 2: But that's not gonna happen when somebody asks. He's saw
Speaker 2: always something one that I'll never get out of my
Speaker 2: head out of his mouth.
Speaker 1: That's crazy.
Speaker 2: But one time we were talking and it's kind of
Speaker 2: like we get to be on this roller coaster right
Speaker 2: with football, Like we live in such a we're so
Speaker 2: fortunate that we got to legitimately live our dream as
Speaker 2: a kid, Like you're playing mad and you're creating yourself
Speaker 2: and you just daydream about playing football, like we're pretending
Speaker 2: to be guys in the backyard when you're playing catch
Speaker 2: with your dad and stuff, and you're just like you're
Speaker 2: obsessed with this dream of playing in the NFL. And
Speaker 2: we get to do that, like the one percent one percent,
Speaker 2: Like we are so lucky we get to do that
Speaker 2: at the same time we're riding.
Speaker 1: This roller coaster.
Speaker 2: You go to college, you're on scholarship, like you have
Speaker 2: structure around. You go to the NFL, you lose a
Speaker 2: little bit of structure, but you're making money and you're
Speaker 2: just you're living a high. And then when you're when
Speaker 2: you're done playing football, and I would assume it was
Speaker 2: this way for you, but you get the rug pullout
Speaker 2: from under you without even thinking twice, like having the
Speaker 2: option right, and it's like, I feel like what football
Speaker 2: players go through are athletes, are people? That get to
Speaker 2: ride a high like that, because that's what it is,
Speaker 2: like we live in a fantasy world again.
Speaker 1: It's like, what's the next roller coaster? I'm trying to
Speaker 1: get on?
Speaker 2: And you go and call games right, and there's not
Speaker 2: a lot of people in the stadium, Like it's just
Speaker 2: not getting your rock, Like it's not You're like, this
Speaker 2: is not what I want to be doing this, This
Speaker 2: isn't doing it for me. I feel like we struggle
Speaker 2: trying to figure out, like what that next? I guess
Speaker 2: highest so to speaker, like what's going to feel like
Speaker 2: I have purpose doing this?
Speaker 1: No doubt.
Speaker 5: I'm literally I completed the book. It'll release this fault.
Speaker 5: It's called Tackle What's Next. So it's a playoff of
Speaker 5: my podcast. So it's like a bunch of podcast guests
Speaker 5: who's poured into me because when I started the podcast,
Speaker 5: I didn't have any broadcast gigs or anything going. I
Speaker 5: was like, ma, now I'm supped to start creating some content,
Speaker 5: have some good conversations. If you ask my wife what
Speaker 5: I like to do most in life, you'd be like
Speaker 5: sit around and beer and talk to your buddies and
Speaker 5: be like, yeah, I get to do you know, get
Speaker 5: to make a little money and do that, Like, yeah,
Speaker 5: that sounds awesome exactly, like having conversations like this is
Speaker 5: like what I like to do and so but it's
Speaker 5: a lot about that, like so, yes, you got to
Speaker 5: live out your dream. But like except that that was
Speaker 5: awesome and it was incredible and you're you're not gonna
Speaker 5: have that again.
Speaker 1: But man, you can recreate.
Speaker 5: Like my like the tagline of my podcast, how do
Speaker 5: you make your what's next in life?
Speaker 1: Your best? Yet?
Speaker 5: So like, go attack that next chapter of life, no
Speaker 5: matter what it is. And so many people are in
Speaker 5: a season of transition right now, whether it's from COVID,
Speaker 5: whether it's work, and like you can be in a
Speaker 5: transition life just because you say, like, man, I want
Speaker 5: to be better tomorrow, like and not even like putting
Speaker 5: too much pressure on yourself, like man, like I love
Speaker 5: my boy Ben Newman, but like I'm not gonna do
Speaker 5: seventy five hard over and over and over, like that's
Speaker 5: not how I'm wired. But like, man, tomorrow I'm gonna
Speaker 5: be a better dad, husband. You know, I'm gonna work
Speaker 5: my tail off. I'm gonna you know, go pursue some
Speaker 5: business stuff cause that fulfills some competition, am I end,
Speaker 5: but like yeah, it's real. And then creating a schedule
Speaker 5: for yourself is like one of the biggest things when
Speaker 5: you transition out because man, your whole even in the
Speaker 5: off season, it's like, Okay, we're gonna work out, we're
Speaker 5: gonna do this, and like it's all on a schedule
Speaker 5: and our whole lives.
Speaker 1: Like it's what you go to school, your whole life.
Speaker 1: Then you go to college and you've managed all that.
Speaker 5: Then all football players, no doubt, right, and then all
Speaker 5: of a sudden you have no schedule at all. So
Speaker 5: like getting in a routine daily that like serves you,
Speaker 5: that's gonna like put some healthy habits in your life.
Speaker 5: It's great, but you talked and you hit it on
Speaker 5: the head. When people are trying to recreate that, that
Speaker 5: how you get from football. That's where you see a
Speaker 5: lot of people get into trouble business wise. It's like, man,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go all in on this real estate deal.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go all in on this. It's like whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 5: Like my buddy's been doing real estate for thirty years
Speaker 5: and now you're like you're scouring deals that they've passed
Speaker 5: up for like five months, Like you think that you think.
Speaker 1: You're gonna hit a home run on this, like right,
Speaker 1: oh no, no, chill.
Speaker 5: But it's uh, it's been fun to hop into like
Speaker 5: this podcast world learn from so many people, and you know,
Speaker 5: part of my passion now is helping people transition and
Speaker 5: and I just feel like as I learned on the podcast,
Speaker 5: people are learning with me and it's been a ton
Speaker 5: of fun.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. When'd you start it? I started in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 5: So we're like one hundred and fifty something, one hundred
Speaker 5: and sixty episodes in one a week. Sometimes we do two,
Speaker 5: sometimes I'll do a solo one and those do pretty
Speaker 5: good ratings.
Speaker 1: And you can like boost the weekly listens.
Speaker 5: Like if you're trying to get a decent sponsor, you're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 5: last week we had you know X amount of listens.
Speaker 1: It's like, well, we released too that week, but it's
Speaker 1: all good. Yeah.
Speaker 5: And then for Melth like for me, like I like
Speaker 5: conversations that are chill like this, I like conversations with
Speaker 5: pastor CEOs, Like I just like to learn from people
Speaker 5: and pick their brains. But if I go back to
Speaker 5: the bills. Well, like, if I, like I have Brandon
Speaker 5: bean on once a year, that's gonna be one of
Speaker 5: our biggest episodes. Josh Allen Sean McDermott Like, but like,
Speaker 5: those conversations don't really do a whole lot for me.
Speaker 1: You know, they're fun. I love those dudes, but like,
Speaker 1: you know, they're necessary for like the Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll be like yeah, like I'll get a weekly
Speaker 5: KPI report and I'm yeah, it's time to go back
Speaker 5: to the bills.
Speaker 1: Well again, yea yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no doubt.
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Speaker 1: Now back to the episode.
Speaker 4: Going backwards a little bit, like, what are your thoughts
Speaker 4: on the Bills offensive line this year? Going into this year,
Speaker 4: Going into this year, I think there'll be solid and
Speaker 4: like Josh who's your best who's the best? Office liven there?
Speaker 4: Sean Dawkins left tackle. He's solid.
Speaker 5: You know, he's a little undersized six to three. He
Speaker 5: came in my rookie his real wind.
Speaker 1: Yeah did you hear about that? For Taylor one he did.
Speaker 4: I got knocked out of the Bills game, like oh
Speaker 4: yeah yeah, And they were like at the end of
Speaker 4: the game like their probably the Bills proble left tackle
Speaker 4: tailor the one wasn't in. If they he would have
Speaker 4: been there, they would have got that right, Like I
Speaker 4: don't play for that team, boss.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And this guy is pretty good. He was
Speaker 1: in A decent player for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 5: He's been with a Pro Bowl a couple of times. Yeah,
Speaker 5: but his rookie year was my last year. So that's
Speaker 5: like my little brother. And Deon doesn't drink, so like
Speaker 5: he was always my d d and like he would
Speaker 5: come over to the house and you know, all the
Speaker 5: holidays he's at my house, so like that's my like
Speaker 5: my little brother.
Speaker 1: I love that dude.
Speaker 5: He's like a kind of a throwback too, like the
Speaker 5: Bill Shraft in the second round at the Temple. He's
Speaker 5: kind of got this Odell Beckham haircut. And he's real
Speaker 5: active on social media, and he's goofy with the way
Speaker 5: he talks, and you know, he calls himself the Snowman
Speaker 5: and so.
Speaker 1: Like at first, I was like, you gotta cocaine thing.
Speaker 1: I don't even know.
Speaker 5: Honestly, I don't even know. I don't know if he's
Speaker 5: got like a lisp. And it was like, yeah, he's
Speaker 5: trying to say snow. I honestly don't know. We've been
Speaker 5: we've been friends for six years or five years now,
Speaker 5: and I don't even know. But so like that's my guy,
Speaker 5: you know. But he comes in and he's like a
Speaker 5: throwback O Lineman. I'm like, waa wait this dude with
Speaker 5: this dyed blonde, curly little thing on his head, like
Speaker 5: looking trying to be like Odell Beckham.
Speaker 4: You know, a super like me guy. Yeah, where is
Speaker 4: the outfit?
Speaker 1: Yeah? That on the body? He comes in. He's throwing
Speaker 1: people around.
Speaker 5: He's physical, like physical physical, And Cordy Glenn was playing
Speaker 5: games with an ankle injury and this and that, and
Speaker 5: Richie was like, give me deon next to me and
Speaker 5: him and Dion started just throwing dudes out of the kitchen.
Speaker 5: And so Dion's at left at at left tackle at
Speaker 5: left guard. They they didn't resign Feliciano. I like Feliciana.
Speaker 5: He's a throwback too. Roger yep. So he got saffold.
Speaker 5: Mitch Morris really good center. Ryan Bates will probably play
Speaker 5: right guard. They re signed him. And then I like
Speaker 5: that young kid, Spencer Brown. Did you watch him at all?
Speaker 5: Number seventy nine?
Speaker 4: No, I didn't watch him very much, but I was
Speaker 4: at the He had drafted in nineteen, right when the
Speaker 4: draft is in Nashville.
Speaker 1: No, he got drafted this year. Was it talking about
Speaker 1: Cody Ford? That's what I'm thinking. I announced that pick
Speaker 1: on stage down here.
Speaker 5: Really yeah, but Cody Ford second round pick, like the
Speaker 5: Bill Berner bean has not missed on many draft picks,
Speaker 5: like early on draft picks. And he didn't start last
Speaker 5: year again, and I don't know this would be his
Speaker 5: last year coming up.
Speaker 1: But Pop's got a solid o line.
Speaker 5: They take a ton of heat up there, which all
Speaker 5: the lines take heat. I'm like, look like, get I
Speaker 5: get all fired up defending the Bills offensive line. But
Speaker 5: I'll be like, look around the league and just start
Speaker 5: watching more offensive line film, Like there's not that many
Speaker 5: good offensive lines in the NFL right now, especially as
Speaker 5: you go later in the season, because the depth is
Speaker 5: really an issue, like filling a whole low line room
Speaker 5: with quality players. But I like where the Bills are
Speaker 5: out with their starting five for sure. Now, when you
Speaker 5: throw the ball eighty percent of the time, no, you're
Speaker 5: not gonna have a great run game. You're not gonna
Speaker 5: get in a rhythm in the run game. And so
Speaker 5: later in the year they started runn the ball a
Speaker 5: little bit more paid off for him. But they're good.
Speaker 5: I mean, the Bill's got a solid team, I mean
Speaker 5: the top to bottom the quarterback, but other than that,
Speaker 5: the pass game is definitely a strength. And then the
Speaker 5: past defense, that back end has played a ton of
Speaker 5: ball together. Those two safeties are so Jordan Poyer and
Speaker 5: Micah Hyde. They've played, Yeah, so since twenty seventeen, they've
Speaker 5: played pretty much every single game together.
Speaker 1: So they met.
Speaker 5: I listened to Tom Brady talk about them, and he's like,
Speaker 5: no one confuses quarterbacks like they do because they're moving
Speaker 5: before every snap and they just play off each other.
Speaker 5: It could be a loud stadium in Buffalo and they're
Speaker 5: just moving and and Will you can probably tell us
Speaker 5: more about how difficult that could be if like one
Speaker 5: safety's up on the line of scrimmage. Well like if
Speaker 5: you're the other States, you're like, when's he coming back?
Speaker 1: Like wait, dude, you got deep third and you just
Speaker 1: got to have trust.
Speaker 5: But those I would say the past defense of the
Speaker 5: pass offense is the strength, and that's where a team
Speaker 5: like Tennessee has giving them the most fits these last
Speaker 5: couple of years. New England beats them last year in
Speaker 5: Buffalo because just running the ball, they.
Speaker 1: Threw the ball three times. Now he was that was
Speaker 1: a crazy weather game. Crazy weather.
Speaker 3: Now was.
Speaker 5: They're trying to they're trying to get more physical upfront
Speaker 5: on both sides of the ball.
Speaker 1: I like it, dude, what's your weakness?
Speaker 5: The Bills weakness last year was rush defense and pass
Speaker 5: rush like and to me, like the Bill's production in
Speaker 5: sacks was pretty good, like I think at the end
Speaker 5: of the year, like number nine or eleven, like kind
Speaker 5: of in that range, like that's good upper middle, but
Speaker 5: in obvious pass rush situations, they just weren't getting home enough,
Speaker 5: like obvious pass rush like obvious you know, third and
Speaker 5: eleven and no one's close like like I know, as
Speaker 5: an offensive Lineman, Like we're just assuming someone's probably getting beat.
Speaker 5: You make the quarterback miss two people can't get beat
Speaker 5: or else then the sack happens, but you're gonna get
Speaker 5: away from one. But they just weren't getting home enough
Speaker 5: in obvious pass rush situations. And that's where, like you
Speaker 5: talk about being critical, I was pretty critical that often. Well,
Speaker 5: like Jerry Hughes and me we played a ton of
Speaker 5: ball together, like our wives are good friends, we're good friends,
Speaker 5: and it's like, how do you navigate that? But like
Speaker 5: Jerry probably tell you, like, no, you're right, like we
Speaker 5: didn't get home enough.
Speaker 1: He's got a pretty unique story too, right, because he's
Speaker 1: the first round pick to the Colts, sending behind in
Speaker 1: Freeny and mathis yeah.
Speaker 4: But was called a bust yeah for a little bit,
Speaker 4: and now he's really made a home at the Bills.
Speaker 1: We traded Kelvin Shepard.
Speaker 5: Kelvin Sheppard shows up in the spring middle linebacker exactly,
Speaker 5: yep oh shows up, shows up at two hundred and
Speaker 5: seventy three pounds as a middle linebacker, and trade straight
Speaker 5: up Jerry Hughes for Kelvin Shephard. I think Kelvin Shepherd's
Speaker 5: coaching in the league now. Anyways, Jerry's still playing their
Speaker 5: most productive pass rusher for a number of years. I
Speaker 5: always would tell Jerry before we play you all, because
Speaker 5: you get under Jerry's skin, no know what you do
Speaker 5: to him, like talking trash room or gimme a shot
Speaker 5: out to play.
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, cool.
Speaker 5: Like Jerry's gotten what like three personal fouls against the
Speaker 5: Titans in the last five years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's definitely gotten upset a few times. Oh, you
Speaker 1: get under his skin.
Speaker 5: Like before we all played on Monday Night Football this year,
Speaker 5: I went up to before the game. I was like,
Speaker 5: no personal fouls, I bro. Yeah, He's like he's like
Speaker 5: I know, I know. He was like that he is
Speaker 5: riding like that. Jerry's one of the Jerry Let's go boys, Jerry.
Speaker 5: Jerry is like one of the greatest people. Like awesome, awesome, dude.
Speaker 5: He is a hothead. Yeah, oh my gosh. You want
Speaker 5: to talk about someone talking trash to the refs, Like
Speaker 5: he'll be on the sideline chirping at the refs. But
Speaker 5: that's a dude you love to compete with. Like as
Speaker 5: a teammate, you're like, I'll go about it with that dude.
Speaker 1: That cares. You know, is he still He's not with
Speaker 1: the Bills anymore? He is?
Speaker 5: He He's still there. Actually write that down, boys, right down.
Speaker 5: I don't know if they resigned him or not. I
Speaker 5: should know that, but I think look.
Speaker 4: That up real quick to see if they resign him.
Speaker 4: I actually want to know that. For the Jerry Hughes, yeah,
Speaker 4: because because I know he was a free agent going
Speaker 4: in this year, year twelve. Do you guys go to
Speaker 4: Buffalo this year? I know we played Buffalo. I'm not
Speaker 4: sure if it's at.
Speaker 1: Or first in the divisions for the Bills.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we got the Titians got a schedule. Now, last
Speaker 4: year we had, like I think when the whole grades
Speaker 4: come out of like hardest schedule. We were like number
Speaker 4: one I think, and it went pretty well until the playoffs.
Speaker 4: Go back to go Gole, Go back to Google and
Speaker 4: then go to search tools peen tepen Moore or go
Speaker 4: to the more column right there. What the oh all
Speaker 4: results do anytime? Anytime ago twenty four hours?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Oh hey back in the day when you're something new
Speaker 4: every day, when you're in college, when you're in college
Speaker 4: and like trying to like figure out hey, like what
Speaker 4: are people thinking about me.
Speaker 1: I would do this shit all the time. It is
Speaker 1: so bad.
Speaker 4: What was your last year of college? Twenty thirteen? And
Speaker 4: I saw I got jacket at fourteen? Gotcha well?
Speaker 5: And we had Kurt Anderson, Michigan guy, so he was
Speaker 5: always talking about it and we were like looking at
Speaker 5: maybe taking a tackle early.
Speaker 1: Oh.
Speaker 5: So Kurt was always like, dude, we might be getting
Speaker 5: my boy laanen. And I don't know how close you'all were,
Speaker 5: just like your Michigan guys.
Speaker 1: Yea guys are No, we weren't very close with us,
Speaker 1: very cool he said that. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I was like, I definitely don't think I would have
Speaker 4: wanted to play for the Bills, just how cold it is.
Speaker 5: It's amazing what these last few years has done for
Speaker 5: like free agent signings and people wanted to get your
Speaker 5: people want to go to the Bills now.
Speaker 4: People don't realize is when you say, like, oh, why
Speaker 4: would people go to the Bills when they can go
Speaker 4: to LA It's like you're really spending six months out
Speaker 4: of the year there and it gets cold for a
Speaker 4: few months and then you can book it, you can
Speaker 4: lead you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: And it's actually pretty fun. To play up in Buffalo,
Speaker 5: being completely honest.
Speaker 1: Like we all live a lot of trouble. Richie was
Speaker 1: telling me about it.
Speaker 5: Like we all live by each other and so like
Speaker 5: in a city like this is in a monster city.
Speaker 5: But like in La, guys the forty five minutes apart,
Speaker 5: Like you leave the stadium, you're not gonna see them again.
Speaker 1: And I hang with the worlds like I come home
Speaker 1: from work. We had eight guys that lived in our neighborhood.
Speaker 5: Me and Richie shared a backyard his uncle, Richie did
Speaker 5: my little Gracy girl. But like I'd get home and
Speaker 5: like Leslie and Grace would be like off playing at
Speaker 5: someone else's house, like enjoying themselves and so like it's
Speaker 5: a ton of fun. And then you're right as soon
Speaker 5: as the season's over, you can vacation.
Speaker 4: You can live wherever you want, wherever you want, and
Speaker 4: like when you're up there, you should be working anyways,
Speaker 4: like it's grind time in the season, Like who cares
Speaker 4: if you're in La, Like, yeah, what was your regiment
Speaker 4: like when you were playing for me? Like I don't
Speaker 4: there's no drinking during the season for me at all.
Speaker 4: I just can't do it.
Speaker 1: And I hate.
Speaker 4: Like for me, it's always like, how do I stay
Speaker 4: ahead of the sticks? How do I make sure that
Speaker 4: my body's right going next week? And if I drink
Speaker 4: on a Sunday, even that next Sunday, let's say I'm
Speaker 4: not feeling as good or my conditioning is as good,
Speaker 4: I feel something, I'm like, fuck, you fucked it up
Speaker 4: for yourself, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I would drink Sunday or Monday generally, not
Speaker 5: like crazy. Now, if I got like a bunch of
Speaker 5: buddies in town, I'll kick back some drinks with them
Speaker 5: after a game. So after every single game home games,
Speaker 5: I hosted a tailgate in my truck after the game
Speaker 5: because it takes like an hour. Yeah, it takes like
Speaker 5: an hour and a half for the parking lot to
Speaker 5: clear out after you get out there.
Speaker 1: Well, we lived one mile from the stadium.
Speaker 5: If I left right after the game or I waited
Speaker 5: an hour, I'd get home about fifteen minutes apart. So yeah,
Speaker 5: I started packing a cooler and put a bunch of
Speaker 5: beers in the back of my truck.
Speaker 1: And honestly it was awesome fellowship like with the guys.
Speaker 5: As the game, everyone come by and everyone knew they
Speaker 5: were invited, like and so then you end up having
Speaker 5: to pack more and more, and then you know, some
Speaker 5: of the young guys like, hey, bring a couple extra
Speaker 5: thirty packs and you know, we'll throw them in.
Speaker 1: So we'd have a few beers chill out.
Speaker 5: Went to the same Italian spot when I broke my
Speaker 5: leg and half my rookie year, this Italian restaurant half
Speaker 5: and a half. Yeah, this Italian restaurant started just bringing
Speaker 5: over dinner for me and my wife, and I was like,
Speaker 5: you know what, I'm gonna be loyal to them, dude.
Speaker 5: They're still like I still eat there after every Bill's broadcast. Now,
Speaker 5: like after every game, we'd go in there, well at
Speaker 5: like nine, they'd shut the doors and lock the place
Speaker 5: and we would just we could do whatever we wanted
Speaker 5: and there watching that tod night football and chill out,
Speaker 5: and it was like our own little spot, like own
Speaker 5: little getaway. That's also the Talian spot. So I would
Speaker 5: generally drink on Sunday nights after home games. But I'm
Speaker 5: not like getting crushed, but like I'm the ultimate like
Speaker 5: reset button still to this day, Like like you know,
Speaker 5: we came down, we went.
Speaker 1: To Rubies, and I have no clue what you were
Speaker 1: talking about. We went, we went down, We went down
Speaker 1: to Rubies. Last night, we went to Jeff Rubies down here.
Speaker 5: Last night, you and the wife met up with a
Speaker 5: former teammate of mine, Mike Coston. We went out, had
Speaker 5: a few beers afterwards, like this morning, get in the gym,
Speaker 5: sweat it out a bunch of electrolytes, rehydrate, boom back in,
Speaker 5: back in it.
Speaker 1: So like even when I was playing.
Speaker 5: But I'm like you, like I'd see dudes drink on
Speaker 5: Fridays and I was like, man if I cramped up
Speaker 5: in the game on Sunday and I drank on a Friday, like,
Speaker 5: I would never forget, I would never forgive myself.
Speaker 1: No. And I'm like such a warrior, Like a.
Speaker 5: Buddy of mine played a decade at tackling the league.
Speaker 1: I mean he got blacked out every Friday night.
Speaker 5: And like a lot of those dudes in like Green
Speaker 5: Bay back in the day, like uh, sitting in those dudes, Yeah,
Speaker 5: they drank every week and they balled out with it and.
Speaker 1: Looked like he drank every single day. He had that body.
Speaker 4: I know, But like I would never be able to
Speaker 4: forgive myself.
Speaker 2: We come in on a Saturday for like the walkthroughs
Speaker 2: and everything else, and there'd be a there'd be a
Speaker 2: couple of dudes sleeping in the fucking locker room right
Speaker 2: from being out there before, just crazy alcohol smelling drunk.
Speaker 1: Still, it's just like, yo, what are you fucking doing? Right?
Speaker 5: Was a lot like that league, and that's like Rex
Speaker 5: was like real like Rex's personality, he said, like his
Speaker 5: coaching style is to empower you, like, dude, you're the
Speaker 5: baddest dude on our team. Like I remember we brought
Speaker 5: in Percy Harvey yesterday and uh, but he was like
Speaker 5: he's so empowering. Well, we had all these young cats
Speaker 5: that they like drafted, all these like wild dudes. Well
Speaker 5: then Rex is like empowering him. Like you go like,
Speaker 5: you do your thing, do whatever you got to do
Speaker 5: to get ready for the game. And they're all hammered
Speaker 5: on Friday night, come in Saturday.
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh god, we got no shot, like we
Speaker 4: Oh that's the worst feeling, dude. I know when you
Speaker 4: kind of just know she hasn't been going the way
Speaker 4: it ship this week, I said anything, damn I know it.
Speaker 4: I freaking love Rex. Though he's such a good dude,
Speaker 4: and you said he lives here. Yeah, yeah, he'd probably
Speaker 4: be fun to get on.
Speaker 1: It was over at any Lavetrie used to live over there.
Speaker 1: You played Andy, right, Yeah, great dude.
Speaker 4: Great dude he was. He was one of my grooms
Speaker 4: with my wedding. Really yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: The only time I've ever been up in Buffalo was
Speaker 4: for his wedding with his wife. Was like July fourth weekend. Yeah,
Speaker 4: real selfish weekend to have a wedding. Because absolutely, I'm
Speaker 4: trying to it's the best holiday, second best holiday behind
Speaker 4: in the Halloween in my opinion. But we went out
Speaker 4: there and we had some wings. I don't know what
Speaker 4: the fuss is about in Buffalo with the wings.
Speaker 1: You didn't go to the right spot then, I mean,
Speaker 1: I got there's some wings up there.
Speaker 4: Change and he took us to Spice like this is it.
Speaker 4: I don't remember what it's called. I'm not here to
Speaker 4: I'm not here. I'm gonna get killed by Bill's mafia again.
Speaker 1: But I wasn't. I didn't understand it.
Speaker 4: Tastes like Hooters wings breaded, weren't very good.
Speaker 1: I'm beyond the spot. I never take place bred of wings. No,
Speaker 1: no way, what's the best spot? I love? How you
Speaker 1: want violence against Bill's mafia. I don't want my favorite
Speaker 1: Hooters wings. That's my experience.
Speaker 5: Yeah, my favorite spot is a place called Bar Bill
Speaker 5: and it's like a craft like they take it serious.
Speaker 5: That thing up bar Bill, bar Bill b A R
Speaker 5: space B I L L.
Speaker 1: They do it right. How do they do these wings?
Speaker 5: I mean they're like hating the sauce on there. It's
Speaker 5: the presentation. They separate the drums from the flats, homemade
Speaker 5: homemade blue cheese.
Speaker 1: Maybe we're on a potographic website right now.
Speaker 4: Hey, I do love chicken wings like crazy. No that
Speaker 4: she looks fire? Yeah, yeah that I got my own
Speaker 4: bug there.
Speaker 5: And so like generally, when I'm drinking, generally, generally, when
Speaker 5: I'm drinking, my mouth say, I'll say, like the waitress back,
Speaker 5: you want another, like, I'll do one more. Like that
Speaker 5: doesn't mean that's my last one, Like I just want
Speaker 5: one at that time. So they did a mug for me.
Speaker 5: It said I'll do one more. And then you've probably
Speaker 5: drank with Richie before. Every time Richie drinks the next morning,
Speaker 5: it's I'm never drinking again. Yeah, I had them do
Speaker 5: a mug that said I'm never drinking again. For Richie boys.
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Speaker 1: Boys. Back to the episode, that's hilarious. What was it
Speaker 1: like playing with Richie Richie's is this now? Is this
Speaker 1: locker room talk? Oh?
Speaker 2: I know the locker room talk. I don't know what
Speaker 2: your story was. If it was, no, I'll always talk
Speaker 2: about that. I was just trying to get his creative.
Speaker 2: I was just thinking about, like, you know, I love that.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry for sending the growth of this, okay, and
Speaker 5: then I'll get into a good story with Richie because
Speaker 5: you prepped me on that and I got a funny one.
Speaker 1: But we playing with Richie was awesome.
Speaker 5: In twenty fifteen, in February, Doug Whaley is our GM
Speaker 5: and he reached out to me, he said, and we
Speaker 5: had gone into the offseason no, and we needed a
Speaker 5: couple of new guards.
Speaker 1: You know he would He was like, he's like, he's
Speaker 1: like player in coach. Oh, yeah, he kind of. He can.
Speaker 1: He's able to play Bothy. Some mine like that. He's
Speaker 1: got very much. Ben Jones pipes to me.
Speaker 4: Are like a lot of centers are like, yeah, we're
Speaker 4: just smart. Just cut the same way and with the coaches,
Speaker 4: corporate guys.
Speaker 1: See, I said, down with the coach, we're kind of talking,
Speaker 1: you know, we kind of need we kind of knew.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that's like Kyle Lorten came to the Bills.
Speaker 5: He's like, you're such a company guy. I'm like, Orton,
Speaker 5: you've been with five different teams and like, maybe you
Speaker 5: should be a.
Speaker 1: Little bit more of a company guy. But we learned
Speaker 1: the game a little bit more.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, ship on the company guys. But it's not
Speaker 4: a bad gig. No, it's not a bad gig to
Speaker 4: be that dude. No, I just have an issue with authority. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it used to be heavy and the you know,
Speaker 1: the police. You know what I'm saying, the company guys.
Speaker 4: But so Doug Whaley called me up, what do you
Speaker 4: think about bringing Richie?
Speaker 1: And we had the same agent.
Speaker 5: I'd met him at a bunch of events with athletes
Speaker 5: first and this and that. Loved the dude, and I
Speaker 5: was like, bring him in. I know he went through
Speaker 5: all that crap in Miami. I've talked to him about
Speaker 5: it personally. It'll be good, I'll you know. He moved
Speaker 5: in like right.
Speaker 1: Behind the incredible to his side of the story.
Speaker 5: It's at some point he needs to write a book
Speaker 5: and tell his side of the story.
Speaker 1: It would be probably be a best sellery.
Speaker 4: What Jonathan Martin Jonathan Martin story with Jonathan said he
Speaker 4: was getting bullied and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Oh racial stuff.
Speaker 4: Yeah, listen, you know my vibe on that stuff. You
Speaker 4: should never say the N word or anything. And I
Speaker 4: think there was a voicemail or something. Yeah, but they
Speaker 4: were apparently they had a relationship. They had a relationship
Speaker 4: where like he was okay with him saying that. I
Speaker 4: don't know, like I said, I'm not cool with that.
Speaker 5: Word, but Richie know what at that time, Like Richie
Speaker 5: wouldn't do that. Now I'd assume, you know what I mean,
Speaker 5: Like it wasn't whatever it was, it's always been a
Speaker 5: big deal regardless we bring in Richie. He was great
Speaker 5: for us, Like, never got in trouble. He's smart, he's physical.
Speaker 5: I've never us used to train with Richie. I've never
Speaker 5: been around anyone as strong as Richie.
Speaker 1: I mean he's kind of a guy. You're just like,
Speaker 1: all right, do this weight now, and he's like, okay.
Speaker 1: I never seen him struggle with weight.
Speaker 5: They wouldn't let him lift enough weight in Buffalo even
Speaker 5: like truly challenge himself and it's like unbelievable. Like I'm
Speaker 5: doing like two seventy five on incline and they're like,
Speaker 5: all right, just slap another uh played on the outside
Speaker 5: for Richie. I'm like what and like all right, I'll
Speaker 5: put another court on the outside for Richie. Just bangs
Speaker 5: it racks and like you can't go any higher, Like yeah,
Speaker 5: like holy smoke, this crazy strong rogers a lot like that.
Speaker 5: He's extremely strong, but go ahead with Yeah, So Richie,
Speaker 5: Richie was absolutely awesome to play with. You know, we
Speaker 5: may Pro Bowl together, had a ton of fun out
Speaker 5: in Hawaii with him, and we've gotten really close.
Speaker 1: Over the years.
Speaker 5: You know, he's truly one of my best friends now.
Speaker 5: But so we were talking about stories and whatnot earlier.
Speaker 5: So we used to take our old line trips out
Speaker 5: of the season. So do you all do the fine
Speaker 5: system in your room?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Okay, so we do the fine system? Is that
Speaker 1: the locker room story? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Well, this this is gonna be a like this is
Speaker 4: a Richie Line story?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: What year is this?
Speaker 5: This is twenty sixteen? This is this is January of
Speaker 5: twenty seventeen. Because I have a walking boot on, which
Speaker 5: contributes to the story because I just broke my leg.
Speaker 5: So we used to always go to Vegas with half
Speaker 5: the fine money. The other half we'd like take kids
Speaker 5: Christmas shop, and then we justified taking this like Vegas
Speaker 5: trip and we just go out there and spend a
Speaker 5: bunch of money. And but like after the season, like
Speaker 5: you're so stressed out all year, then you go to
Speaker 5: Vegas and like your heart's racing the whole time. They're
Speaker 5: like gouging you every time you walk in anywhere with
Speaker 5: ten fat dudes. It's like, all right, screw this. I
Speaker 5: was like, let's go to Key West one time, Like
Speaker 5: hear me out, Let's go down Key West, Like you
Speaker 5: can leave the room and flip flops, t shirt and
Speaker 5: shorts in the morning, eat anywhere you want, Like it's
Speaker 5: just chill, Like, let's go down there, chill out. So
Speaker 5: we go down there after a couple of pretty big
Speaker 5: days of drink and we wake up the third day,
Speaker 5: we go to your grab brunch and we're like, man,
Speaker 5: nothing sounds good. Ask the waitress, like, give us something
Speaker 5: that's not tequila, bourbon beer, this, that, And she's like,
Speaker 5: how about a darkened store and like a rum and whatever, Yeah,
Speaker 5: let's do it. So then the waitress is like, after
Speaker 5: we had a few, she's like, you know who drinks
Speaker 5: rum before noon? Like who like pirates? I was like
Speaker 5: that's pretty good. So then we became pirates. So on
Speaker 5: on the island.
Speaker 1: So then we became pirates.
Speaker 5: So on the island, they have an authentic costume store
Speaker 5: that like specializes in pirateouf. So we spend five of us,
Speaker 5: four of us go spend twenty five hundred dollars on
Speaker 5: pirate out. It's each total, okay, And.
Speaker 4: I'm in a boots, so obviously I'm like Captain Hook
Speaker 4: with the peg leg and the hat and coat and.
Speaker 5: Like ruffled shirt. And Richie's got this whole big deal.
Speaker 5: And so we're walking around as pirates. We're walking into
Speaker 5: bars and Richie would just rake tables of drinks off
Speaker 5: and we literally I would literally have to like and
Speaker 5: people would be like, oh my god, that's Richie incognito.
Speaker 5: I'm like, I know we're gonna make it right. I'm
Speaker 5: gonna buy you two rounds of drinks out of this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're all good clean.
Speaker 4: He just fucking oh, he's a he's a wild animal
Speaker 4: and he drinks you. It's but it's fun times.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean malicious, he's just yeah shop, yes,
Speaker 5: i mean he's just so big. But anyways, so like
Speaker 5: our favorite times are like when are we gonna go
Speaker 5: back and be pirates again? And I mean we would
Speaker 5: do those old line trips, like do you all do
Speaker 5: an oldlane trip as the year?
Speaker 1: Yeah, we went to Vegas this year.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm always big on getting the boys to Cabo,
Speaker 4: and everyone's all about it in August it's September. Then
Speaker 4: October hits been like, you know, Vegas is closer, we
Speaker 4: could do that. Oh we all want to gamble and
Speaker 4: then all of a sudden Vegas happens.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Well, Cabo's maybe one of my favorite plays on there.
Speaker 5: Yeah me my wife won seven straight off seasons. Really yeah,
Speaker 5: it's one of my favorite places in the world. Yeah,
Speaker 5: I know, you talk about all the time.
Speaker 1: The one time the Hill Petrigal got like the yeah
Speaker 1: you know, okay my man's local.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, we did that one year and then
Speaker 4: that place is.
Speaker 1: Great because you're five minutes from downtown squid Road. The
Speaker 1: whole thing.
Speaker 5: My favorite spot is the Hassi End of Beach Club
Speaker 5: because you can get those private residents there, like if the.
Speaker 1: Wives want to lay out and chill.
Speaker 5: You can walk right from your place down on the
Speaker 5: beach and you're like forty steps from like Mango Deck
Speaker 5: and all that my fast my favorite bar there, yep.
Speaker 5: And then you got the office right there like that,
Speaker 5: you can just walk to it all. But then you
Speaker 5: get inside your like little gates and you're at a
Speaker 5: five star spot.
Speaker 4: You know, the owner of Mango, you know how they do,
Speaker 4: like the shows every day, Like there's a wet T
Speaker 4: shirt contest one day and the next day it's like
Speaker 4: a push up contest. Anytime they do the push up contest,
Speaker 4: there's always like the sixty five year old dude who's
Speaker 4: like in a baggy T shirt and kind of just
Speaker 4: sitting there having a drink. And they get all these billy,
Speaker 4: badass tough guys on spring break to kind of go
Speaker 4: up there and do their do the test. Well, the
Speaker 4: guy apparently he's the owner and he's fucking rocked up,
Speaker 4: and they like start egging on the older guy to
Speaker 4: come and do the push up contest and he's like
Speaker 4: all right, fine, takes your shirt off, and you're like
Speaker 4: Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1: He walks up and just muscles out like one hundred
Speaker 1: of those things.
Speaker 4: No problem do big buff guys are dropping out like
Speaker 4: thirty five.
Speaker 1: And he's a buff old guy. I think that might
Speaker 1: be him. That might be him.
Speaker 5: Look, that's the cutting the that's the cut in the
Speaker 5: hole right behind it, and.
Speaker 4: It sits right there, you know, like that little famous
Speaker 4: little look of cobble where they have those like rocks
Speaker 4: as you're kind of going out and have that.
Speaker 1: Little yeah, well there's a clove.
Speaker 4: There's beautiful like big rocks that kind of stick out
Speaker 4: of the water as you're like driving your boat to
Speaker 4: go with marlin fishing or fishing or whatever, and right
Speaker 4: there right next to the harbor's mango deck.
Speaker 1: And it's fucking unreal.
Speaker 5: Let me give you one more like O line deal
Speaker 5: and and maybe some of the listeners can apply this one.
Speaker 5: So we would host all holidays at our house up
Speaker 5: in Buffalo. So we created this deal for Thanksgiving. And
Speaker 5: this is like when you talk about catching craft for
Speaker 5: the podcast. This is the thing that I would catch
Speaker 5: the most crap on for social media every year if
Speaker 5: like we played bad on Sunday, Like I would catch
Speaker 5: a ton of heat for this. So we created this
Speaker 5: rule that when anyone could come to the house, everyone
Speaker 5: could do it, but you have to weigh in and
Speaker 5: weigh out, and then we have this like overall champion
Speaker 5: who put on the most weight throughout the day. Well
Speaker 5: then we got like real competitive with it, and you
Speaker 5: put some money on the line and all that. Where
Speaker 5: like I wouldn't even drink water at practice that day
Speaker 5: and I get in the sawn us then you weigh
Speaker 5: in like super light when you get home. Well then
Speaker 5: you're like rehydrate. Well, there's seven pounds right there, eight
Speaker 5: pounds right there, and then you know, you eat and whatever.
Speaker 5: So then we started like posting the rankings online. USA
Speaker 5: Today ran with it, and so these weight gain competitions
Speaker 5: on Thanksgiving became a pretty big deal in the woodhousehold.
Speaker 5: Like and then you start winning some pretty decent cash.
Speaker 5: It's like okay, like a grand or something. You know,
Speaker 5: like nothing crazy, but like to a young enough to
Speaker 5: put effort into a young dude on practice squad like.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 4: Richie sat in front of the in front of the
Speaker 4: fridge one year and just was chugging wait till he
Speaker 4: or drugging water till he.
Speaker 1: Gained enough weight to win it, and we so then
Speaker 1: we had.
Speaker 5: To put like some gentleman's rolls about it, like dude,
Speaker 5: you can't just like sit in front of there and
Speaker 5: drink water at the end of the night.
Speaker 1: And Richie's mom was going, I'm like, Richie, you're gonna puke.
Speaker 1: You're disgusting. Yeah, Jersey girl.
Speaker 4: Where So, when Richie left Buffalo, he obviously went through
Speaker 4: a lot of stuff. Yep, where where were you in
Speaker 4: his life at that point? Trying to manage all of it? Yeah, honestly,
Speaker 4: and I and and honestly, you know, his dad passed
Speaker 4: mocked her in the middle of it. Richie, Richie struggled
Speaker 4: initially with my career ending more than I did.
Speaker 1: Really.
Speaker 5: You know, he's so emotional and he's so like like
Speaker 5: if you're close to Richie, like if you're in his
Speaker 5: inner circle, like he loves you, like you know, Richie
Speaker 5: doesn't have a wife and kids, so like, well, my
Speaker 5: career ended, like he was hurt, hurt.
Speaker 1: And then his dad got sick and passed.
Speaker 5: Then you know, Richie has come out that you know,
Speaker 5: he has mental health issues, Like that's it's and it's
Speaker 5: okay to talk about nowadays, which is great because that
Speaker 5: it needs to be talked about. And Jay Glazer's wing
Speaker 5: a bunch of good work in that community right now too.
Speaker 5: But anyway, so all that compounded on him, and he,
Speaker 5: you know, put himself in the media again doing some
Speaker 5: great stuff and all that. But then the Raiders took
Speaker 5: a shot on it, took a shot on him, and
Speaker 5: it paid off and he's been a model citizen out
Speaker 5: there again. But I believe Mike Mayock their GM at
Speaker 5: the time when they signed him, his wife like works
Speaker 5: in that space. Oh really, it was like like it
Speaker 5: was an advocate for Richie, which was really cool.
Speaker 4: Richie was was one of the guys that I met
Speaker 4: my wife when we got engaged in five weeks, married
Speaker 4: in three months, good for you. And he was one
Speaker 4: of those guys during that process where I'm kind of
Speaker 4: so worried about what other people are gonna think, what's
Speaker 4: gonna happen, where he was like he kind of sat
Speaker 4: me down, had the are you sure about this?
Speaker 1: Talk?
Speaker 4: And once I kind of gave him the reasons why
Speaker 4: I'm sure. He was like the number one supporter, like
Speaker 4: he he and Taylor were great friends. We all went
Speaker 4: to Vegas together for the McGregor Diaz fight. Like truly
Speaker 4: an older brother to me.
Speaker 1: He he was, he was. I miss him all the time.
Speaker 4: You know, our relationship isn't what it was because of
Speaker 4: a lot of things during that time, which is which
Speaker 4: is tough, especially having two little kids and you know,
Speaker 4: all that stuff he was dealing with. But I fucking
Speaker 4: love that guy and I miss him all the time.
Speaker 5: So so many people know that me and rich are
Speaker 5: so close that when all that stuff started happening to Richie, well,
Speaker 5: I'm dealing with my own career ending, and now I'm
Speaker 5: just getting peppered with calls and text I'm talking to
Speaker 5: his mom every day and.
Speaker 1: All that, and his boy in Utah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I'm like talking to all these people and
Speaker 5: uh and and so it ends it ended up being
Speaker 5: a lot. But it's your brother, you know, Like I
Speaker 5: would do anything for that dude, absolutely anything. So it's like, dude,
Speaker 5: if it's phone calls, if it's whatever, like I'll do
Speaker 5: anything for him, you know.
Speaker 4: You know, So he's happy, and I know that I
Speaker 4: don't know what he's gonna do with the rest of
Speaker 4: his career.
Speaker 1: He didn't. He didn't play very much last year the
Speaker 1: Calf and yeah, like tourist calf. So he was out.
Speaker 1: He was out year, and I think I think he's done.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure.
Speaker 4: It's not my job to say what his career is
Speaker 4: at this point, but like, if he is finished, you
Speaker 4: just hope that he puts enough structure in his life
Speaker 4: to kind of like be happy and comfortable where he's at.
Speaker 4: He's made a lot of money and he's done his thing,
Speaker 4: and you know, he's single, no kids, like he's he
Speaker 4: has a great life in Arizona. I just hope he
Speaker 4: kind of keeps up with what he's been doing last
Speaker 4: couple of years.
Speaker 5: No doubt about it. I'm meeting him down in May
Speaker 5: play some golf down in Jupiter. Yeah, so I'll get
Speaker 5: to catch up with him. I haven't seen him in
Speaker 5: person forever.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I saw him the last game of the year, the
Speaker 2: Charges game. He came through and we were trying to
Speaker 2: get into the playoffs, and he was he seemed like
Speaker 2: he was in a great headspace.
Speaker 1: Monster bear hug. Yeah. I was a little nervous because.
Speaker 4: You know, yeah, we had a will and I just
Speaker 4: met when So when Taylor and I got married. We
Speaker 4: got married just the two of us on four twenty
Speaker 4: because we thought it was hilarious. And then fast forward
Speaker 4: like four months later, Talor gets pregnant and so we
Speaker 4: were gonna get we were going to get married like
Speaker 4: that summer, but ended up like, hey, well just or
Speaker 4: the next summer, but we.
Speaker 1: Had to wait. My daughter was born two days before.
Speaker 4: We were like thought about getting married in front of everybody,
Speaker 4: so you know, people are more comfortable with it, and
Speaker 4: that took a little longer, and Will was Will and
Speaker 4: I met like in a short amount of time and
Speaker 4: ended up coming to the wedding and we there was
Speaker 4: that's when Richie was Taylor proposed to me in five
Speaker 4: weeks two. Yeah, it was very fast. It was a
Speaker 4: very fast relationship for us. But that's when a lot
Speaker 4: of Richie stuff was really at the fort. He was
Speaker 4: going to be a groomsman of my wedding, and it
Speaker 4: just where he was at and like how it turned out,
Speaker 4: it wasn't able to happen, but he had quite the
Speaker 4: experience of being with Richie Good good.
Speaker 2: First experience with Richie and cognit you know, all the
Speaker 2: stories because he was a Nebraska guy right who got
Speaker 2: kicked out and then went to Oregon. Uh so I've
Speaker 2: heard stories about Richie, about this dude, and then you
Speaker 2: see this stuff in Miami and I felt his fucking
Speaker 2: hands when we played at Buffalo.
Speaker 1: I want to say. I bantered with him a little
Speaker 1: bit about it.
Speaker 2: And you know, we had an exchange, and you know,
Speaker 2: I was a little nervous being around the guy. And
Speaker 2: then he was like, oh, we're brothers because Nebraska, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, thank god.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, yeah, ground here.
Speaker 4: From the get go, him and I were like the
Speaker 4: minute we made So we played I think twenty fifteen,
Speaker 4: we played a week It was week four. We played
Speaker 4: the Bills and gay By Kurt was there, you know, Gabe,
Speaker 4: and he's like, hey, you got to meet this guy, Richie.
Speaker 1: Dude, like you guys would be best friends.
Speaker 4: We all went at dinner before the game and then
Speaker 4: we worked out that summer together. But even before that,
Speaker 4: in college, my my buddy Jordan Kovacs, he was a safety,
Speaker 4: white boy, try hard guy, walked on, ends up being
Speaker 4: a captain killing it, gets drafted to Miami Dolphins and
Speaker 4: he comes in town during his bie week and he's
Speaker 4: like dude, there's this guy there. I swear to god,
Speaker 4: you guys would be best friends, like brothers. His name
Speaker 4: is Richie Incognito. I'm like, fuck, yeah, dude, whatever, don't
Speaker 4: think much of it. Like a week later, the Jonathan
Speaker 4: Martin stuff come out, I'm like, oh, oh, that's what
Speaker 4: you think about me? Yeah, okay, I might need to
Speaker 4: check myself a little bit. Yeah, no doubt man, it
Speaker 4: was wild times then too. I really hope he gets
Speaker 4: an opportunity to tell his entire story.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think he will, and we have an incredible platform
Speaker 4: to do.
Speaker 1: That on too. Yeah, I mean I would.
Speaker 4: I would love to have him on. I think I
Speaker 4: think it'd be very cool to heart over that.
Speaker 1: And I'm just kidding.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, we'll do a joint one and then release.
Speaker 1: Its one with the boys. Then can both be on.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, perfect, perfect, Yeah that sounds great. No, but
Speaker 5: like there were times in Buffalo so like Richie when
Speaker 5: he's in his great headspace and all that, like he
Speaker 5: still specializes in cross the line humor like period, like
Speaker 5: that's he's hysterical to be around.
Speaker 4: Mouth hugs, He's fucking hilarious. Gosh.
Speaker 5: You know that was back when the media could come
Speaker 5: into the locker room all the time, and I'd be like, Richie,
Speaker 5: like someone's going to report something you said and it's
Speaker 5: gonna get taken way out of context.
Speaker 4: And he'd be like, yeah. I'd be like good, right,
Speaker 4: what would I say? Good Richie? Good Richie. He'd be like,
Speaker 4: I got you, I got you. Yeah, he'd be like
Speaker 4: he'd be like.
Speaker 5: Real men, yeah, the best, but he would like be
Speaker 5: yelling crap across the locker room, like making fun of
Speaker 5: Zay Jones was like who that one of our rookies
Speaker 5: at the time.
Speaker 1: He was always picking on to day.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I'm like, people don't know that you guys
Speaker 5: are friends, right, Like people don't know that you actually
Speaker 5: like him, and they're gonna say something again like you've
Speaker 5: got to chill.
Speaker 1: Buffalo was cool enough never to do it, though.
Speaker 4: It's cool, dude. Everything you're saying is the story With
Speaker 4: Jonathan Martin. I just I really want him to be
Speaker 4: able to tell his piece. You really want that to
Speaker 4: be able to happen. Great man, he'd be outstanding.
Speaker 2: I think it would be a very interesting, too dynamic
Speaker 2: if obviously we were joking about it, but if we
Speaker 2: were all sitting together kind of just talking like we've
Speaker 2: all you met him in a different part, you met
Speaker 2: him in a different part. I kind of met him
Speaker 2: in a different part. Like if you're just talking through everything,
Speaker 2: I think it'd be really fascinating.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt about him.
Speaker 4: It'd be outstanding about him and Fitzpatrick both draft in
Speaker 4: the same year to Saint Louis, and that was you know,
Speaker 4: last year could have been both their last year's.
Speaker 1: They're what thirty eight and thirty nine years older? Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're old boys.
Speaker 5: Like that's wild that both of them, Like the Rams
Speaker 5: stunk for so long, but like those dudes end up
Speaker 5: playing sixteen seventeen years.
Speaker 1: That's why.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what I wanted to ask about too, when you
Speaker 2: were talking about the Fitzpatrick and he signed the five
Speaker 2: year deal and then he played through broken ribs and
Speaker 2: stuff like that. Is that something that you know him
Speaker 2: well and you see it from the outside looking in
Speaker 2: when you see whe of your boys go, you're like, fuck, man, like,
Speaker 2: why don't why doesn't the organization see that he was
Speaker 2: honorable enough to like play with broken ribs? Right, It's uh,
Speaker 2: it wasn't one of those things when he gets when
Speaker 2: he gets cut or released or whatever that he probably
Speaker 2: looks back on him back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you just shouldn't play hurt.
Speaker 5: Maybe, But we talked about early on what everyone loves
Speaker 5: Fitzpatrick so much. He's got no ego, Like he would
Speaker 5: be like, no, I'd lay on my line from my teammates.
Speaker 5: I could go out there and play. But like he
Speaker 5: would scramble on a play and come back in the
Speaker 5: huddle and not even be able to call the play
Speaker 5: call because like he was hurting so bad and he's like,
Speaker 5: can't even get through a throw.
Speaker 4: We started that year five and two. They give him
Speaker 4: a contract extension.
Speaker 5: Our two losses were at Cincinnati, last second field goal,
Speaker 5: they were playoff team, at the Giants, last second field goal.
Speaker 5: They win the Super Bowl. M hm, you know we're
Speaker 5: five and two, we're in it. I tear my cl
Speaker 5: Fred Jackson broke his fibula.
Speaker 1: He's a stun Yeah, no doubt about it.
Speaker 5: And then fitz breaks his ribs and we kind of
Speaker 5: dwindled off.
Speaker 1: It's crazy interesting just derail a team like that, especially when.
Speaker 5: Don't have well quarterbacks. Quarterbacks especially and then if you
Speaker 5: don't have depth. Yeah, like if you don't have depth,
Speaker 5: you're just done.
Speaker 4: One more thing about Fits is he always seemed like
Speaker 4: the dude when he'd come in his first four games
Speaker 4: where MVP type stuff, and then something would happen. I'm
Speaker 4: not sure what it was. He'd go from like throwing
Speaker 4: like crazy numbers to three picks yep, what do you
Speaker 4: what do you think I tested to that?
Speaker 5: So he would have these really hot stretches because Fits
Speaker 5: is so smart here prereads defenses and he's willing to
Speaker 5: give his guy like receivers love him because he'll be like,
Speaker 5: when you have this matchup, the ball is coming to you,
Speaker 5: don't let me throw a pick, but like I'm just
Speaker 5: gonna throw it up to you, like when you get
Speaker 5: this dude on you or you know, he's just he
Speaker 5: trusts a lot of guys. Well, you know, I'll throw
Speaker 5: a pick here, you know, So he can get really,
Speaker 5: really really hot because he's an absolute gun slinger. But
Speaker 5: like there were times like I was on rexs when
Speaker 5: Rex was with the Bills, He's like, I know that
Speaker 5: when Fits sees this blitz, like this is where his
Speaker 5: reads Like mentally as a quarterback, this is where you
Speaker 5: have to go. We're gonna trap him, and I don't
Speaker 5: remember if it exactly worked out. But it's like that's
Speaker 5: how defenses are looking at fits, like, yeah, he's so smart,
Speaker 5: he's going to see this, so can we get him
Speaker 5: to go over here? But he can just get so
Speaker 5: hot because he's given guys chances. He's throwing jump balls,
Speaker 5: and then he goes to uh Tampa and he's got
Speaker 5: Mike Evans and Shaun Jackson on the outside.
Speaker 1: That's when he showed up in the chains and all that. Hious.
Speaker 5: I'm watching that game. That's the year I was out
Speaker 5: of the league, and I'm watching that game from home.
Speaker 5: He texted me before he goes to press conference in
Speaker 5: that outfit, he goes, should I do it? I'm like, absolutely,
Speaker 5: your personality hit. Let's go into Shan Jackson standing over
Speaker 5: there with those shirt on, waiting for him to give
Speaker 5: him back his chains and his glasses and his shirt.
Speaker 1: And all that funny.
Speaker 5: But I think part of the reason is he's just
Speaker 5: giving guys chances out there. He's trying to throw a
Speaker 5: whole shots and cover two and then it can go quick.
Speaker 1: You know, those turnovers and just happened in her damn
Speaker 1: d he was a stuff.
Speaker 5: And then he also this is one of the things
Speaker 5: we've talked about this at LANK. We actually talked about
Speaker 5: this on my podcast last year because I would always like,
Speaker 5: we'd be down twenty one points and Fitz would then
Speaker 5: go throw another two picks trying to get us back
Speaker 5: in the game, and I'm like, bro, quit throwing interception
Speaker 5: because at the end of the year, they're gonna be like, well,
Speaker 5: Fits had eighteen touchdowns and twenty interceptions. I'm like, and
Speaker 5: Fitz is like, I don't give a crap, Like I
Speaker 5: don't care at all about that, really care what they say.
Speaker 5: I don't care about the picks, Like I'm trying to
Speaker 5: fight back and win this game. All I care about
Speaker 5: is what you guys think. And You're like, I respect that,
Speaker 5: but I still want to play with you next year.
Speaker 5: And like you, if you have four games where you
Speaker 5: threw three picks, they don't care if they were late
Speaker 5: in the third quarter, they're gonna use it against.
Speaker 1: You, right. How's that of him being released from and
Speaker 1: EJ was EJ Manual?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I love EJ. But like they painted, they put
Speaker 5: themselves in the corner. They released Fits and then they
Speaker 5: have to draft a quarterback. And that was the year
Speaker 5: you know EJ was sixteenth overall. That was like he
Speaker 5: was the only first round quarterback that year.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, toughier for QBS, tougher for wo word the who
Speaker 2: would you say your five best Buffalo bills you've played with?
Speaker 1: Is this tear talk? No, I'm just asking.
Speaker 4: Five best Buffalo bills I played with?
Speaker 1: Things about beer?
Speaker 3: Is it?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Kyle Williams one God, what a stud I know, ye,
Speaker 4: butcher knives he was in.
Speaker 1: If he was in a bigger market, he would be
Speaker 1: JJ Watt and all that. Yeah, you know, better than
Speaker 1: J Watt because he's awesome, Right, you said it. I agree.
Speaker 4: JJ's tweet today. I just read tweeted that always try
Speaker 4: to steal my ship. I can't believe he's been reading
Speaker 4: your tweets like this.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. J's on my ass. Yeah.
Speaker 5: JJ robbed me wrong one time because Fits had to
Speaker 5: leave a golf game out in Arizona to go film
Speaker 5: something with Zach Brown and JJ Watt, and they cut.
Speaker 1: Fits out of it.
Speaker 5: When we went to the concert that night, and I
Speaker 5: was like down front, really drunk, like if you guys
Speaker 5: like like JJ tolten ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So why did why would JJ rub your.
Speaker 5: On in that scenario. I thought he had something to
Speaker 5: do with it. He probably did, But JJ is just
Speaker 5: such a me guy. He's such a me guy. I
Speaker 5: might have heard about you guys talking about it on
Speaker 5: the podcast before, but like you could tell he's such
Speaker 5: a me guy because they can't even run blitzes in
Speaker 5: Houston because they got to let him do whatever he wants,
Speaker 5: and then all the linebackers got to play off of him,
Speaker 5: like like we would go in and gash Houston, like
Speaker 5: he might have three tackles for loss and we'd have
Speaker 5: one hundred and seventy rush yards because like he's blowing
Speaker 5: like three.
Speaker 1: Gaps at a time, and he hasn't played real defense. Nope.
Speaker 5: And if and if, like you can send a guy
Speaker 5: back to cut him, well, he'll jump way out of
Speaker 5: the way.
Speaker 1: And so now he's complete out the way.
Speaker 5: Now you're running inside zone and there's like literally just
Speaker 5: a gaping hole on the backside because he jumped out
Speaker 5: of the way.
Speaker 1: No, I don't I haven't liked him from the second
Speaker 1: Devil's Advocate.
Speaker 4: He's a phenomenal, phenomenal football player, player, great player.
Speaker 1: Don't like him bleeding and taking his helmet off for
Speaker 1: sure was that.
Speaker 4: I'll tell you who the real hero was of that
Speaker 4: Houston defense was Cushing. Yeah, the real hero stud he
Speaker 4: his fans man.
Speaker 2: Dude he had he did a pot with on Brian
Speaker 2: Peters's podcast.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty badass, is it. Yeah, it's pretty cool.
Speaker 1: He's like one of those dudes. You're just like, hey,
Speaker 1: this is a fucking boy. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: We uh he came on a visits Louisville, and uh,
Speaker 5: we got him. I don't I don't know that he
Speaker 5: drank a whole lot in high school, but he drank
Speaker 5: on his Louisville visit and he turned up.
Speaker 1: Oh love.
Speaker 2: That's in New Jersey cane and those dudes are fucking crazy. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's a DeFranco boy. He's like a Joe DeFranco's like
Speaker 2: a trainer, a well known trainer out in the Northeast.
Speaker 5: He ran in that dude's face with that helmet on,
Speaker 5: fitted a photoshop of his face on Cushing's body.
Speaker 4: But it's like a perfect photoshop. Yeah, that's it's hilarious.
Speaker 4: Fishing fits really like that. That's hilarious.
Speaker 5: So Kyle Williams, Kyle Williams, I mean I played one
Speaker 5: year with t O He's a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 4: Shady was a stud, chased, smart dude. He didn't give
Speaker 4: a fuck about Pro Bowls or nothing.
Speaker 1: Huh.
Speaker 4: Richie was telling me that he made the Pro Bowl.
Speaker 4: He's like congrats. In the locker room, She'd be like, man,
Speaker 4: I'm give a fuck about that.
Speaker 5: He wants to win games and and he wants to
Speaker 5: show out on Sundays. Yeah, and like he's so smart
Speaker 5: it's unbelievable. Like he could sit there on his phone
Speaker 5: and meetings. He knows everything going on. He'll never mess
Speaker 5: something up. And one time, I like, I built a
Speaker 5: lot of trust with Shady when I did this, and
Speaker 5: we've stayed close buddies. But he, uh, he was on
Speaker 5: his phone one day. Well, one of the coaches said
Speaker 5: something to one of the running backs and he was like,
Speaker 5: well I thought we could, and like pointed over at
Speaker 5: Shady and I was like, shut your mouth, rookie, Like
Speaker 5: that dude's been in the league. That dude would be
Speaker 5: a Hall of Famer potentially, Like you've done nothing for us.
Speaker 1: I was like, I just went off on you. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: that's crazy. Shit was on his phone on a meeting
Speaker 1: that's yeah, he was like that.
Speaker 2: It's always it was always incredible to him.
Speaker 1: Bless you man.
Speaker 5: It's hard to say because you know, he wins two
Speaker 5: Super Bowls at the end of his career, but he
Speaker 5: wasn't active for either of the Super Bowls. It'll be close,
Speaker 5: be a really close call. But Shay was an absolute stud.
Speaker 1: Was incredible. I could just carry the ball like that,
Speaker 1: never fumble.
Speaker 2: I know, he carried it like he was like you
Speaker 2: know how, you know how all the coaches are like, oh,
Speaker 2: he's a fumbler. Still they're showing tape. But if they
Speaker 2: haven't fumbled like Shady and they carry he's a fumbler.
Speaker 2: He just doesn't know it yet and he's just carrying
Speaker 2: it out to the side.
Speaker 4: That man never fumbled. He holds it like who was
Speaker 4: the dude in the longest yard Nelly. Yeah.
Speaker 5: The amount of fumbles per carry over the ten year
Speaker 5: stretch he played, that's that crazy crazy up to a
Speaker 5: certain amount of carries or whatever.
Speaker 1: But ball Leshaun McCoy.
Speaker 5: Fred Jackson, Fred Jackson might be Jackson. I mean Fred
Speaker 5: Jackson is one of my favorite teamates of all time.
Speaker 5: Just absolute stud.
Speaker 1: Shoot.
Speaker 5: Who would be the last one who do I played
Speaker 5: with towards the end like Tredavious White. He was a
Speaker 5: rookie my last year, absolute stud him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a monster leaving somebody out. Richie, I mean
Speaker 1: Richie really really good player. You know which he's on?
Speaker 1: Which he is? Play with the what's his name is it?
Speaker 1: Lee Smith? Smith?
Speaker 2: Loved that dude. You guys the stories about Lee Smith.
Speaker 2: We who doesn't any time I go to the locker room,
Speaker 2: they played with me. Lee Smith is guy I don't
Speaker 2: know even know who.
Speaker 1: Smiths? Just like old school throwback tight end.
Speaker 4: He's in Tennessee, right, Yeah, he's in Knoxville.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you I've heard he's got. He played last
Speaker 1: year for the Falcons. Here's how loved Lee is. Like.
Speaker 5: Last year was gonna be Lee's last game. So we
Speaker 5: do a dinner before the Falcons Bills game last year
Speaker 5: night before the game. It's like a private little deals
Speaker 5: this Italian spot up in Buffalo, Your Italian spot, my
Speaker 5: second Italian spot. I got you, not too loyal?
Speaker 1: How's the family doing?
Speaker 5: But but Arthur Smith shows up their GM Uh both
Speaker 5: starting quarterbacks, legendary head coach. Oh he's awesome. Uh, Kyle Pitts, Beasley, Knox.
Speaker 5: I mean literally it was like a Pro Bowl and
Speaker 5: coaching staff like meeting at this Italian spot the night
Speaker 5: before the game, all for Lee and it was just
Speaker 5: like the coolest environment, you know, like for me.
Speaker 1: I had one of my buddies with me from Louisville
Speaker 1: who was.
Speaker 5: In town for the game last year, and we left
Speaker 5: and I was like, man, that night was good for
Speaker 5: my soul, like just to be around like a bunch
Speaker 5: of dudes talking ball and like no one you know,
Speaker 5: like a bunch of dudes from both teams just talking
Speaker 5: ball night before the game.
Speaker 1: I was like, man, I missed that crap. But but
Speaker 1: Lee is an animal.
Speaker 5: But we we found out early on that like we're
Speaker 5: cut a little too much from the same cloth, Like
Speaker 5: we both have that like go Jean and we had
Speaker 5: one really late night together and the next day, this
Speaker 5: was during the spring.
Speaker 1: We're like, I don't think we can hang out that often, Bud.
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, we really, we're like super close still this day.
Speaker 5: But uh, I was like, man, we got to be
Speaker 5: really careful, like because we both have that. Like so
Speaker 5: I think I think both of I think everyone knows
Speaker 5: about this in both of our households, we get really drunk.
Speaker 1: One night, Lee spends the night in my house.
Speaker 5: I wake up in the morning I can't find my
Speaker 5: phone and like, I don't care how drunk I get like,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna plug my phone in next to the bed
Speaker 5: and go to sleep. Wake up, it's not there. I'm like,
Speaker 5: where the hell's my phone. I'm looking all over for it.
Speaker 5: I look under my bed and it's like in the
Speaker 5: middle of the front. Well, I have to like move
Speaker 5: the whole bedframe. It's not like you can just lift
Speaker 5: it up as soon as so it's dead as soon
Speaker 5: as I plug it in. My mom's calling. It's like
Speaker 5: nine thirty in the morning. I was like, what the
Speaker 5: hell is going on? I was calling. She goes, are
Speaker 5: you okay? And I go, yeah, why he goes Lee Smith?
Speaker 5: She goes Lee Smith called me at four o'clock in
Speaker 5: the morning to tell me that you guys got overserved,
Speaker 5: but everyone's okay, and oh my, my mom stays up
Speaker 5: all night just dialing me over and over and over.
Speaker 1: And he said he he has his.
Speaker 5: Wife saying in his phone as like Mama, he thought
Speaker 5: he was calling Leslie.
Speaker 4: I was like, well, why the hell would you call Leslie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, why would you do that? Oh my god? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Lisa is this guy? Wait?
Speaker 4: How long was his career? He just retired, but how
Speaker 4: long years or something of yours? Blocking tight end. Oh
Speaker 4: it's just a grinder, Yeah, just a grinder.
Speaker 1: But I hear just all time stories like around the
Speaker 1: building around yeah, groom, everybody walking, legend gyboy. We'll let
Speaker 1: him tell. We'll let him tell his tales. He can
Speaker 1: come on. Yeah, he's invited.
Speaker 2: Shall we do the tears talk? So we're gonna transition
Speaker 2: into a segment we called tier talk. We get a
Speaker 2: I think it's beers we talk. We're talking beers. We're
Speaker 2: gonna have all these beers in front of us, and
Speaker 2: we're gonna we're gonna rate them whether we want to
Speaker 2: put them in a tier one category, tier two, tier three.
Speaker 1: You don't have the best beer on, you don't have
Speaker 1: miller light on there? Oh wow yeah what.
Speaker 4: Oh it's just a it's a guideline. Now, okay, so
Speaker 4: we see the beer, so we know beers. I say, bluss,
Speaker 4: I'm a miller like a second blue light. But it's
Speaker 4: all good. Your your Miller light like a top tier
Speaker 4: Miller Light's like my favorite drinking light beer got you,
Speaker 4: But I'm not having one. If I'm like only having one,
Speaker 4: I'm having one. If we're having like.
Speaker 1: Ten, Yeah, I'm butt heavy all the way? Is my bro?
Speaker 1: Is that just as the logo or that's just like
Speaker 1: how you roll both? I guess. I mean they do
Speaker 1: a great job branding.
Speaker 2: They've obviously got me sold as a as a as
Speaker 2: an all in fan.
Speaker 1: But but heavy is like my favorite go to vacation beer.
Speaker 1: Corona Light. Yeah.
Speaker 2: See, I like sometimes it's just got that skunk, It's
Speaker 2: got that skunk pot.
Speaker 1: It's not a bad deal. What about you?
Speaker 4: Then that my number one tier one? Yeah, it's got
Speaker 4: to be bud Light. Uh, I'm sponsored.
Speaker 1: Baby for me.
Speaker 4: That's that's pretty low down the list for me. Really Like,
Speaker 4: I think bud Light gives me a headache. Delicious Hams
Speaker 4: is my Tier two a close tier too, But but
Speaker 4: Light takes the cake from me, takes the cake. Yeah,
Speaker 4: bud Light three. I think Souls number three for me.
Speaker 4: I love Soul. I like michelob Ultra.
Speaker 1: Dude. Maybe that's that might not be a popular opinion,
Speaker 1: but I like me.
Speaker 6: And that.
Speaker 5: You know, I'm at a place that's Anheuser Busch. I'm
Speaker 5: going Mike Ultra over bud Light. That's okay, all right,
Speaker 5: sorry about this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean one that's not on here that I
Speaker 1: love Blue Moon, Yeah with an orange slice.
Speaker 5: Yes, I like it. Yeah, I'm going so what so
Speaker 5: what your Tier one is one? Miller Tier two blue
Speaker 5: Light well bat blue uh? Tier three, I'm going Stella
Speaker 5: like for like having like one or two. Yeah, it
Speaker 5: pans out Miller High Life when I had those minis
Speaker 5: earlier today. Stella like I'm really giving away at the
Speaker 5: ariton down here, does it?
Speaker 1: Stella? Yep? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Four chrona light five Yinglinging is like a Winterer beer
Speaker 5: for me. It's like a winter beer, winter beer, like
Speaker 5: winter winter Golf, Winter Golf's beer, your go to drink.
Speaker 1: I like, I like crushes beers. Listen to him, I like,
Speaker 1: I like beer.
Speaker 5: We're tying one on if I but I'm not just
Speaker 5: having like one like if I'm doing that, you know
Speaker 5: in Kentucky it's like bourbon.
Speaker 1: But I've gotten into tequilas.
Speaker 5: I love to get the cleanest gets out of your
Speaker 5: system real quick, like clause azul is my favorites.
Speaker 1: Like I just bought a barrel of Yeah, is.
Speaker 4: That the one that dings at the top. It's a
Speaker 4: very nice but there's a lot of preservatives in it though.
Speaker 4: Really Yeah, that's what I was told in Cabo Wow. Yeah,
Speaker 4: one of the bartenders like, you can have this if
Speaker 4: you want. There's a lot of preserverves in this.
Speaker 1: What was he said? Nineteen forty two?
Speaker 4: He said, Tosa mikos. See I drink a lot of Yeah,
Speaker 4: like the best one to have apparently.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was having last night. A lot of people
Speaker 1: do that. Have you had?
Speaker 4: We just had middle in on what's there's Instulidom their tequila.
Speaker 4: It's a really good tequila. They have three different kinds.
Speaker 4: And then Thomas Rhet has one too. I forget what
Speaker 4: it was called.
Speaker 5: George got one that everyone's like Lebron's got one that
Speaker 5: it's pretty good.
Speaker 1: Yeah tequila, Yeah, what's it called? You know? Almost man,
Speaker 1: I was there. What are your five tiers?
Speaker 4: My five tier would be bud Light Tier one, Tier
Speaker 4: two would be Hams Ham would be hams Light. Three
Speaker 4: is probably Soul for Corona, and then I do mess
Speaker 4: with the Sekis.
Speaker 1: But I like the Seki's amber is solid. See that's
Speaker 1: too dark. For me, I don't. I don't like that.
Speaker 4: I uh, the Sekis is solid, but I think I
Speaker 4: kind of like that blue Moon vibe.
Speaker 1: I like with the orange. But I'm not a huge
Speaker 1: beer guy.
Speaker 4: But I'm drinking tequila like I like ranch water, tequila
Speaker 4: water with lime juice.
Speaker 1: You are a big tequila Yeah, he's always a tequila guy.
Speaker 4: But one of my favorite things to drink for like,
Speaker 4: if I'm having like a cocktail or something like that.
Speaker 4: These things right here, This this whistle pig stuff is unreal.
Speaker 4: You put that over ice. It's really good.
Speaker 3: Is that?
Speaker 1: Where is that made? Mad Vermont? Okay, it's pretty No,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's really good. You chill that. You put
Speaker 1: that on on the rocks. It's really good.
Speaker 4: Person alcohol, it's good whiskey. It's a really good whiskey
Speaker 4: mixer drink. I'm going, uh but heavy, Oh really it's
Speaker 4: like that for you.
Speaker 1: Serious.
Speaker 2: My man's nostrils just had a fit. I'm gonna go
Speaker 2: butt heavy. Blue Moon, make a little Ultra cores Light?
Speaker 2: Say him again, Say him again? Yeah, but heavy? What
Speaker 2: Blue Moon? What make ultra? What Coors Light?
Speaker 6: What?
Speaker 1: Man? I don't know about this?
Speaker 2: Huh oh vacation.
Speaker 1: Tequila Sunrise.
Speaker 2: Then I'll say, uh, Natty Light man, Hey, that's bro
Speaker 2: Natty Light like it's it's hated on a lot, like
Speaker 2: people get chirped a lot for this.
Speaker 1: But if I'm at a local spot, I'm trying the
Speaker 1: local I p A s Yeah you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I don't know what I p A stands for me,
Speaker 1: neither Indian pale ale. Yeah. I had to get that
Speaker 1: out there before Jack taught me. What are your what
Speaker 1: are your guys? Is? I know Jack, you guys talk
Speaker 1: about what I'm a Corse light guy.
Speaker 3: Number one two would probably be Modello love a good
Speaker 3: Mexican ale.
Speaker 1: Even throw Takat in there. What thek forgot about that?
Speaker 3: Land Sharks great on the beach. I do like, uh,
Speaker 3: the Sierra Nevada down there because I made this list,
Speaker 3: so I threw that one in there, and crazy I'm
Speaker 3: a big Mexican ale guy. Just that was a line
Speaker 3: just never doesn't do it for me.
Speaker 1: You with that, You're just not in your head.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it would probably be like a course banquet or
Speaker 4: a Mexican beer.
Speaker 1: That's about it. Got Yeah, what about you, you big
Speaker 1: Mexican ale guy. What's Hispanic. Yeah. Number one for me
Speaker 1: would probably be land shark yingling light.
Speaker 2: Do sekis Tata and uh Michaelobultra at the end.
Speaker 1: JP, you don't drink, but you can go ahead and
Speaker 1: it's your fir sotas JP.
Speaker 7: Number one, Oh duels number one duels bush light light
Speaker 7: like the Zeros Heineken Zeros cors edge, cores edge.
Speaker 1: You just keep giving him.
Speaker 5: I had a buddy that quit drinking recently, so I
Speaker 5: know all the an aviers. Yeah, when we hit to
Speaker 5: pick up a platinums, Uh, what is that extra alcohol?
Speaker 1: Don't that? Jn't know that though I didn't.
Speaker 4: You don't drink for real, just tequila, just tequila, man, Right,
Speaker 4: we got hammered in ann Arbor.
Speaker 1: What am I? Hey? JP got drunk and ann Arbor
Speaker 1: we did a little spring tour.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was incredible and uh we got after he
Speaker 4: had was it a beer in your hand or a
Speaker 4: uh tequila?
Speaker 1: No tequila shots?
Speaker 4: It was no because oh yeah, because we give you
Speaker 4: one and we had always one. Yeah, there always be
Speaker 4: an extra. So we got after the Nebraska. We had
Speaker 4: a great We had a great time at all the spots.
Speaker 4: We didn't get to get after it in Tennessee just
Speaker 4: because there's a day trip. He said, Nebraska, what you're
Speaker 4: talking about Michigan.
Speaker 2: Uh, my fault, Tennessee. We didn't get to get after it.
Speaker 2: I'm saying, but you had it. You said we had
Speaker 2: a great time in Nebraska. You talking about Michigan and
Speaker 2: that we all went out right right right. But I'm saying,
Speaker 2: I'm just saying we got after it a little bit
Speaker 2: in Nebraska too. We're in Michigan. We have a great
Speaker 2: time in Michigan. Yeah, And uh, Taylor pulls me to
Speaker 2: the side. He's like, hey man, you know, I've been
Speaker 2: looking at JP like I think he got up on
Speaker 2: us last week, Like, yeah, we're all a little hungover JP.
Speaker 2: I think he was saucing every other shot. So we
Speaker 2: gotta get I do believe that we got to get
Speaker 2: him sucked up up and and I agreed with him.
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, bro, we gotta get JP sauce.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 2: So every time we order, every time we ordered drinks,
Speaker 2: there would be an extra shot and it would always
Speaker 2: be like, hey JP. And then we started j JP
Speaker 2: JB and I'm talking the bar was involved in everything,
Speaker 2: and yeah, just getting into.
Speaker 1: We got him slaughtered bro will take advantage of me
Speaker 1: later that night. Yeah, that's crazy. He wanted the left doors.
Speaker 1: I was like, you gotta work for these left doors.
Speaker 1: I'll come on in. Oh, dude, you got j That
Speaker 1: was a great time.
Speaker 4: Was so much to it was the past was fun too,
Speaker 4: but it was on spring break. Yeah, it would have
Speaker 4: been way more break.
Speaker 5: I've thrown shots on the floor in the bar before.
Speaker 5: I know where light beer is gonna take me. That's
Speaker 5: why I say, like going to a concertors to night,
Speaker 5: like I'll just drink light beer. I know is exactly
Speaker 5: where it's gonna take me. I know I'm not gonna
Speaker 5: make a fool of myself. And you get to a
Speaker 5: bar and ever you know you guys know like when
Speaker 5: you're playing ball and everyone's, oh, let me buy you
Speaker 5: a shot, and buffalo people love like it's all like
Speaker 5: a shoting beer, shotting a beer like.
Speaker 1: On the side, or you like hit him with the Ye,
Speaker 1: be clear. I never threw my shots on the ground.
Speaker 4: You lying like a rug on a rich man's floor.
Speaker 4: Tar their swift, you know.
Speaker 1: You for sure did.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was doing something. He was babysitting drinks or something,
Speaker 2: because he was the heavyweight.
Speaker 4: Okay, he was running from bar to bar, running rinting
Speaker 4: Withers me. All the old lineman from Michigan came out
Speaker 4: with us. So we were all having a good time,
Speaker 4: like getting after it. And we were at this place
Speaker 4: called Scorekeepers, and we go to the Brown Jug, which
Speaker 4: is like.
Speaker 1: Two blocks away.
Speaker 4: He keeps us a blast and we go back to
Speaker 4: the Brown Jug and we're getting an uber and all
Speaker 4: of a sudden, we see JP fucking raining outside. He's
Speaker 4: fucking pretty another and someone goes, hey, who's got JP?
Speaker 4: And one of the old limono we got him and
Speaker 4: he fucking messed like three minutes after the car.
Speaker 1: Who got out of the car. We're getting rides home
Speaker 1: and he's taking like a little bike taxi. Hey he
Speaker 1: was acting a fool, dude. It was so much fun.
Speaker 4: We had a blast, dude. The Spring tours have been
Speaker 4: crazy for fun. I'm gonna need a special guest appearance
Speaker 4: next year on those.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hey we're trying to go.
Speaker 8: Let's do Louisville. I'm down to It's not far away
Speaker 8: at all. Yeah, two and a half three hours is
Speaker 8: it time on Louisville? Oh yeah, we have great time. Yeah,
Speaker 8: we can like The best is when you stay over night.
Speaker 8: You stay over night and get after it, like you
Speaker 8: can kind of be Like we were at skaps and
Speaker 8: some girls like what do you do for school? And
Speaker 8: I was like, oh, bro, I'm thirty. Like he goes,
Speaker 8: why are you here? And I was like that's a
Speaker 8: good question. I like walk away asked like those were ranging. Yeah,
Speaker 8: I'm back in college right now. But it's crazy, dude,
Speaker 8: it's fun.
Speaker 1: That was a blast.
Speaker 4: But we definitely the overnights we want to asu next year.
Speaker 4: You have a next year. Some of the Florida schools
Speaker 4: we're trying to stay warm next year. We hes all
Speaker 4: damn cold schools. Yeah, it was a blast, though. We
Speaker 4: should do Louisville because we were talking talking about bringing
Speaker 4: people with us, like having.
Speaker 2: Like our like if you go to Iowa, try and
Speaker 2: get kill on board, go to Louisville, get you go
Speaker 2: to Georgia, get Ben Jones, like get like guys where
Speaker 2: they went to that school.
Speaker 1: No doubt, Louisville's coaching staff is awesome too. You love
Speaker 1: those Oh really, Soderfield's great. You think we can get
Speaker 1: a jersey? Absolutely? See okay, guys quiping guy's my boys
Speaker 1: telling you, bro. We went to Tennessee and they didn't
Speaker 1: the ball.
Speaker 4: I'm a ball baseball guy, but no, I've been tweeting
Speaker 4: at the balls baseball team too. I followed him, and
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, we're built different out here. I'm a
Speaker 4: ball and I've worked out at Vanderbilt, so I went there,
Speaker 4: and I guess all the football team is like killing
Speaker 4: the string coach.
Speaker 1: That trains me, like, well, what the fuck's the wand
Speaker 1: doing out there? Yeah, because you're because you're of all.
Speaker 4: I'm a ball, I'm not a vall. I'm a ball
Speaker 4: baseball guy. I'm obviously a Michigan football guy.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, for sure, but I'm in the brass football guy.
Speaker 1: So we're on Michigan wolf ringes. Yeah, it's true, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I don't know.
Speaker 4: We'll have to see at the end of the year,
Speaker 4: in the fall when the balls play the Vanderbilt where
Speaker 4: I draw the line in the sand?
Speaker 1: What's crazy? But I can't Vanderbilt.
Speaker 4: If they played the Vanderbilt sorry and van I Vanderbilt
Speaker 4: hooks the boy up with the jersey, they might have
Speaker 4: the edge. But if Tennessee brings that jersey, they might
Speaker 4: have me too.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm so easily bought.
Speaker 2: We stand any any school we go to, like, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna root for you guys, know yeah, Oh that's
Speaker 2: like if I'm not room for Nebraska, if I'm not
Speaker 2: room for Michigan, I'm gonna be room for Tennessee.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how you gotta do it one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: Eventually we had all the schools and be like, we
Speaker 1: just want everybody to win.
Speaker 2: We're gonna be yeah, yeah, yeah, give u participation teammates, Yeah,
Speaker 2: giving speeches at all of them.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. Well, I think we've ran this one drive.
Speaker 1: I think we've done it. We've been it's been a
Speaker 1: great time.
Speaker 4: It's been an outstanding time. We're happy you came on.
Speaker 4: And it's ten year anniversary. Yep, ten year anniversary.
Speaker 5: We got engaged at a Garth Brooks charity event out
Speaker 5: in Vegas, like twelve years ago. You guys, we did
Speaker 5: the exact opposite of you, Like we got we took
Speaker 5: our time. Yeah, y'all went, Hey, there's a bunch of
Speaker 5: ways to kinn a cat, no doubt about it. But anyways,
Speaker 5: we got engaged at a Garth Brooks charity event. You
Speaker 5: know twelve years ago, so celebrate ten years at a
Speaker 5: Garth concert tonight.
Speaker 1: Pretty tight.
Speaker 5: That's all we actually found out, unless it was any
Speaker 5: with our daughter the day of a Garth concert, like
Speaker 5: Garth's been there to meet him. I don't think so,
Speaker 5: because they stopped doing like all the meet and greets
Speaker 5: for the people that are involved with the foundation with COVID.
Speaker 1: I don't think so.
Speaker 5: I got in this bad ass barrelhead like, uh, hand
Speaker 5: carved of him and Tricia show a picture. But uh
Speaker 5: so I dropped that off to a social media director yesterday,
Speaker 5: and so'd be cool if you give a shout out.
Speaker 1: But you know, did garst Worth assault you have a
Speaker 1: shout out? You're O, that's cool. Yeah, that's awesome. Did
Speaker 1: you name your son Garth? No, he's Garrett, but that'd
Speaker 1: have been tight. I might start calling him Garth.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say all this, all this, uh, all
Speaker 2: these hints at Garth man, it's kind of like written
Speaker 2: in the stars.
Speaker 1: Of slopping in the face, Yeah, telling you what to
Speaker 1: do right now the universe.
Speaker 5: Garth's a freaking awesome person, though, like like some of
Speaker 5: those guys aren't all they're cracked up to.
Speaker 1: Be when you get to know him a little bit.
Speaker 5: We hosted a football camp in Louisville together for all
Speaker 5: inner cities kids. No one knew who Garth Brooks was,
Speaker 5: and that's how he loved it. Like sitting there in
Speaker 5: a hoodie and a hat, just like chopping it up.
Speaker 5: But the moment like he sealed the deal for me.
Speaker 5: He's just sitting over there talking to my father in law.
Speaker 5: Doesn't know he's my father in law, talks to him
Speaker 5: for twenty minutes. My father in law is one of
Speaker 5: my favorite people in the world, but he's a maleman.
Speaker 5: He can do nothing for Garth Brooks us sat there
Speaker 5: and talked to him for twenty minutes, loving the breeze
Speaker 5: with him.
Speaker 1: I'm like, he's a real one.
Speaker 5: Yeah, guy that's not worth their uh the like the
Speaker 5: coldest anyone who has been like you know, like they
Speaker 5: come through Louisville and you know they're playing at our
Speaker 5: basketball gym and whatnot, like we'll generally meet him or whatever.
Speaker 5: Zach Brown was like like one of the dudes who
Speaker 5: like didn't offer to like have a drink or whatever. Yeah, like, oh,
Speaker 5: one of my buddies had grown out of he was
Speaker 5: doing like November. This was a kind of early in
Speaker 5: my NFL career, so twenty twelve, twenty thirteen, so we're
Speaker 5: not like we're like in our late twenties.
Speaker 1: He grew up like this massive mustache and he was
Speaker 1: joking around.
Speaker 5: He's like, man, I've been I grew up this mustache
Speaker 5: for the concert and Zach Brown's like, that's a weird.
Speaker 4: Man, really, And then and then and then you know
Speaker 4: his chicken fry dude, and he's cold beer on a
Speaker 4: Friday night music.
Speaker 1: I'll meet you, hear us. I love his music. I'll
Speaker 1: let you do. They kill it? Dude. What's that song?
Speaker 1: Ows me out? Yeah? Probably older Weather. Oh that's the song.
Speaker 1: Was just trying to think of you and I'm stucking
Speaker 1: cold weather. Maybe tomorrow will be bed?
Speaker 6: Can I call you? Then?
Speaker 1: Doom Doom Doom because I'm a ramsom man and I
Speaker 1: never got to change. He got a gypsy soul to blame,
Speaker 1: and they were bone for leaving bone believing.
Speaker 6: Well, it's a woe row when you're in the lost
Speaker 6: and frown, you're a lover runner, and we go round
Speaker 6: and round Doom Doom Doom.
Speaker 1: Because that last I feel like we've I was I
Speaker 1: can't think.
Speaker 4: I kept thinking that one of you two It was like,
Speaker 4: both of you guys are gonna stop and let me
Speaker 4: keep going.
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 4: I love singing, yeah, always, what's that he was ready for?
Speaker 4: He was ready for us to turn the volume down
Speaker 4: the car on him real quick.
Speaker 1: One of my favorite things to do is get up
Speaker 1: on stage and single with the band.
Speaker 5: You talk about trying to replicate a rush, Yeah, playing
Speaker 5: football like singing in front of a crowd is awesome.
Speaker 1: I love it. What do you got? Should have been
Speaker 1: a cowboys like my go to, but like I'm not
Speaker 1: doing it here.
Speaker 4: Like we get a couple just wearing my six shooter
Speaker 4: riding my pony on the cattle drive.
Speaker 1: I'll put I'll pull it.
Speaker 5: I'll probably I'll probably end up on the stage tonight
Speaker 5: at the stage or something.
Speaker 1: Because you and Garth boys like that. So you can
Speaker 1: get out there.
Speaker 5: Where's my buddy at one of my boys, Chris Ferrara,
Speaker 5: Common Good He's playing at twelve thirty club tonight.
Speaker 1: So awesome.
Speaker 5: Spot by the way, it is, it's a cool area,
Speaker 5: Like that's one of my favorite spots. I was sitting
Speaker 5: that was sitting there one night. It's like the table
Speaker 5: that's kind of like right by the stage, and I
Speaker 5: was sitting there. Waitress came up like that's where JT
Speaker 5: sits when he comes in. I was like, oh, it's
Speaker 5: a special smith.
Speaker 1: This is nice. Yeah, I get to rub off on
Speaker 1: you a little bit, you know what I'm saying. It
Speaker 1: was the troll. He was branch. Do we got anything else?
Speaker 1: We all got anything. We haven't hit on anything anything.
Speaker 5: Foundation Foundation evan Wood Fund. So my little brother was
Speaker 5: born with severe several palsy. He passed when he was eleven.
Speaker 5: So we got that up in Buffalo stuck. So now
Speaker 5: it's called the Evanwood Fund. It was the Airwood Foundation.
Speaker 5: I made it the Evnwood Fund. It's under a children's
Speaker 5: hospital up there. So now they pay all the administrative fees,
Speaker 5: which is great. Yeah for all athletes that are starting
Speaker 5: foundations and all that make it a fund under a
Speaker 5: hospital and then they'll pay all the administrative fees. So
Speaker 5: instead of donating sixty or seventy percent, we donate ninety
Speaker 5: seven percent of the money donated, I say donate, all
Speaker 5: of it goes to the families.
Speaker 1: It was to like, hey, well, we had to.
Speaker 5: Pay a few bills and all that, like that three
Speaker 5: percent covers like booze at our charity event.
Speaker 1: You know, like, yeah, you know, so that's been a
Speaker 1: ton of fun to do.
Speaker 5: Throw the money out there. No, yeah, it's that's an investment.
Speaker 5: But now that's been fun. Got the broadcast, he got
Speaker 5: the podcast.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's next with Eric Wood? What's next with Eric Wood?
Speaker 1: Boy was coming out? What what would be the go to?
Speaker 1: People are like, all right, I'm gonna go check out
Speaker 1: his podcast? What's like an episode? You're like, all right,
Speaker 1: go to this.
Speaker 5: Great question if you're into like personal development, like ed
Speaker 5: my Letts as good as it gets, you know, John Gordon,
Speaker 5: those types of dudes, those are great. If you're looking
Speaker 5: for a fun one, go listen to Ryan Fitzpatrick t
Speaker 5: O was pretty good on there. Joe Tom like if
Speaker 5: you like oh line talk. Joe Thomas was great. Nick
Speaker 5: Hardwick was great.
Speaker 1: Okay, Joe's awesome all the time. Joe is on the
Speaker 1: bus Man. We've had him on Zoom but not the bus.
Speaker 1: Are you doing she Code? Are you working with them?
Speaker 1: I'm doing it in two weeks? Yeah she could. She Code?
Speaker 4: Is Armando the guy that I've been working with for
Speaker 4: like brain hacking, like development breaking through those walls as
Speaker 4: a child.
Speaker 1: Oh the mental guy, Yeah, mental coach. I could have
Speaker 1: just said that the first time. I actually it actually
Speaker 1: ran away from me real quick. And I'm excited about
Speaker 1: that e md R treatment.
Speaker 5: Like I'm excited about it, and I think I'll like
Speaker 5: I had some traumatic stuff, so like I think that'll
Speaker 5: be really beneficial for me. But even like in talking
Speaker 5: with dudes that are transitioning out and be able to
Speaker 5: refer him to a bunch of other guys, I think
Speaker 5: that could be something that comes out of this.
Speaker 4: It was all time, when the when the when the
Speaker 4: Titans brought him on and I've been talking on like
Speaker 4: three four years ago. I want to talk to somebody
Speaker 4: kind of figure out these demons. And they brought them
Speaker 4: on and I was like, who wants to do it?
Speaker 4: And I was like, I'm all about it. So Armando's
Speaker 4: my boy. We've been working a lot, so it's it's awesome. Yeah,
Speaker 4: like the first five sessions, I cried losing it. We're
Speaker 4: doing a three day intensive in Louisville where like it's
Speaker 4: like all day, no phone, nothing. Yeah, yeah, I heard
Speaker 4: about that. I need to do one of those two. Yeah,
Speaker 4: sounds like a wreck. You're gonna wreck my world and
Speaker 4: then hopefully just like bring me out of it.
Speaker 1: God, you'll be glowing at the end of it. He
Speaker 1: is so smart too.
Speaker 4: The way he breaks things down tells you things, like
Speaker 4: the way he makes you search throughout your brain.
Speaker 1: It's a crazy deal. How often do you work with him?
Speaker 1: Once a week? I need to bump that up in
Speaker 1: two weeks though. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, shoot, therapy is incredible, right, it really is,
Speaker 2: And they can get any kind of therapy in their life.
Speaker 1: I feel like that's like a it's it is extremely beneficial, right,
Speaker 1: But this dude's worked with so many athletes, like he
Speaker 1: gets it right, right.
Speaker 2: No, Yeah, but for people out there thinking all they're
Speaker 2: doing this some like some like extreme athletic hack for
Speaker 2: their brain.
Speaker 1: No, like that applies to anybody, right, Yeah, no doubt. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Be able to live free with not as much weight
Speaker 1: on your shoulders. What a way to live. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: really the dream. Yeah.
Speaker 5: He was saying like, if you have if you have
Speaker 5: open loops of like traumatic experience in your life, you
Speaker 5: don't even know that you're triggering those moments. And I
Speaker 5: haven't even done the treatment. I've just had a bunch
Speaker 5: of conversations with him and looking into it. But you
Speaker 5: go back to the mental state that you were in
Speaker 5: at that age and that emotional state whenever you're triggered
Speaker 5: in any type of way, and like it might be
Speaker 5: you know, a death of a loved one, it might
Speaker 5: be alcoholic parents, whatever it may be. But like something
Speaker 5: could trigger you and you don't even realize it, Like
Speaker 5: it might be just like the way you someone made
Speaker 5: you feel, made you feel in that way, then all
Speaker 5: of a sudden, you're like a freaking six year old again.
Speaker 1: Like emotion and mentally.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I tell you what, you do an hour session
Speaker 4: with him and you leave that session feeling amazing.
Speaker 1: He plays music for you, he does he.
Speaker 4: Has a whole like work with this guy who does beats,
Speaker 4: but he put beats together in this like a way
Speaker 4: that helps your brain like relax.
Speaker 1: It's a crazy deal. It's a crazy deal, but it's
Speaker 1: really cool, really cool.
Speaker 5: I gotta get both of you guys on the podcast.
Speaker 5: Try to record with Will. First time in my life
Speaker 5: the internet went out at our house, so.
Speaker 1: I try to do that. We got back up. Was
Speaker 1: it during COVID, Yeah, it was during COVID.
Speaker 5: I mean, it was great stuff, and then it was like, well,
Speaker 5: we can't even do it next week because it'll be
Speaker 5: like we're just repeating. We're gonna we're gonna try and
Speaker 5: recreate the same stuff and it won't be nearly as good.
Speaker 5: I'm like, let's just let it breathe for a while
Speaker 5: and we'll go back and do it again.
Speaker 1: Now I've kind of forgotten exactly get back into it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we would try and reconnect, and I would try
Speaker 2: and put myself in the same like state where I
Speaker 2: was like going and I'm like, are.
Speaker 1: You there, Oh dude, I was that's tough. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: got We tried it there on a couple of times,
Speaker 1: and then it was zoom.
Speaker 2: So you're like you're sitting there way and I feel
Speaker 2: like everybody at that point in COVID, like we're doing
Speaker 2: our You're like trying to figure out the whole Zoom
Speaker 2: game and everything else.
Speaker 5: A touch of a lag, so you've kind of interrupting
Speaker 5: each other a little bit. Yeah, yeah, I heard you
Speaker 5: with my my boy cow Rude Off he's one of
Speaker 5: my best friends. I heard you all with him and
Speaker 5: like kind of stepping on each other's stores on. Yeah,
Speaker 5: that would be really hard if you're not in the
Speaker 5: room together, if you're co hosting.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was definitely a tough deal on Taylor and I,
Speaker 4: like we're not some buttoned up Yeah.
Speaker 5: There's no there's no no doubt about it. And you're
Speaker 5: trying to run the conversation. You know, you don't want
Speaker 5: there to be just you don't want the guests to
Speaker 5: be sitting there like we done.
Speaker 4: If we're talking to you, Will and I can kind
Speaker 4: of feel like when the next person's got a question
Speaker 4: when we're with each other, but if you're on the computer,
Speaker 4: it's like, I guess like you're kind of you get
Speaker 4: to a point you're like, man, I don't want this
Speaker 4: to be like an awkward pause, So I got to
Speaker 4: ask this question.
Speaker 1: But Will is probably thinking the same thing. Right he
Speaker 1: goes ask question, We're like, well, hey, you go ahead.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You both say you go
Speaker 1: ahead and all right, and then it's just a fucking deal.
Speaker 4: Then you just stay there there, you go ahead, you
Speaker 4: go ahead, kind of stare at us, look down on
Speaker 4: your phone, fucking idiot.
Speaker 2: We appreciate it, bro, Yeah, i'mbscribed to what What's next
Speaker 2: with Eric Wood? Check out those episodes. But this was
Speaker 2: a This was a great episode. I don't have to
Speaker 2: look at notes like it's all.
Speaker 5: Time, no doubt, no doubt about it. Yeah, and I
Speaker 5: appreciate you let me come on. I mean, I've been
Speaker 5: a fan of the show, so I'm honored.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Tier three Cat in our Hands, Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 2: I didn't get to uh, I didn't get to ask
Speaker 2: about because you're a huge football junkie, so the answer
Speaker 2: will probably be no. But now that you're doing the
Speaker 2: media stuff, do you think back, like, ah, man, if
Speaker 2: I would have if I would have struck a little more,
Speaker 2: started a little earlier, Because to me, it's always different
Speaker 2: when you're you become a retired player versus like being
Speaker 2: in being an active player. That's what I feel like
Speaker 2: it has been very beneficial for us is doing it
Speaker 2: like wall we're kind of playing. Obviously, it's it's hard
Speaker 2: to be like, yeah, I mean I probably wouldn't have
Speaker 2: done it as playing, but now that I'm doing it
Speaker 2: doing it currently, it's like I should have probably done
Speaker 2: a couple more things early in my career.
Speaker 5: I think, especially with the media world, the more connections
Speaker 5: you can make like you don't even necessarily have to
Speaker 5: get reps, but like you better be treating those national
Speaker 5: media members with a lot of respect and make as
Speaker 5: many friendships as you can. Like I wasn't even like
Speaker 5: I thought I was gonna play for five or ten
Speaker 5: more years, so I wasn't like thinking about it all.
Speaker 5: But then Mike Silver and Ian Rapperport and all these
Speaker 5: dudes reached out like, hey, you need an agent. You
Speaker 5: want me to help you get a gig here, you know,
Speaker 5: And then they'd be like, hey, can we make an
Speaker 5: introduction to ESPN here and there? And like those were
Speaker 5: all just people that throughout my career, you know, just
Speaker 5: treat them well and so like and make those connections,
Speaker 5: make friendships. It was Albert, It was a bunch of
Speaker 5: people that like helped me get into it because you
Speaker 5: treated them right, And I think that goes with anything
Speaker 5: in life.
Speaker 1: But then, you know, I love what you guys are doing.
Speaker 5: Like having passions outside of ball is healthy too, you know,
Speaker 5: like in having something that you can pour into. But
Speaker 5: I always warned people, like I always tell people, I'm like,
Speaker 5: if you're too like if you're skipping workouts and stuff
Speaker 5: to go do this real estate gig and all that.
Speaker 5: Like you're gonna find the end of your career a
Speaker 5: lot sooner than you would have otherwise. So you need
Speaker 5: to be all in on ball and then if you
Speaker 5: have time to do something else, perfect do it, especially
Speaker 5: if it's something like this where it's like healthy, it's
Speaker 5: not like tracting from ball and it's not like you're
Speaker 5: out like doing something that. It's not like you're not
Speaker 5: playing basketball you get hurt or whatever. Yeah, I say that,
Speaker 5: but like I tell people, I'm like, man, you start
Speaker 5: doing real estate, you'll realize quickly. Like those dudes that
Speaker 5: make four or five hundred grand, that's a lot of money. Okay,
Speaker 5: if you make five million bucks, that's ten years, right,
Speaker 5: work into real estate, like it's only one year. Like,
Speaker 5: be really careful when you're putting too much time into
Speaker 5: something like that in the off season.
Speaker 1: Yeah, football is definitely. Don't say that for credit, No,
Speaker 1: not at all. Yeah. Yeah, those paychecks they just don't
Speaker 1: fall off a treatment. Yeah that just playing in general too.
Speaker 4: Oh fuck, it's like you said, like you just wake
Speaker 4: up and you just can't play anymore, and it's like
Speaker 4: there's no time, there's never you'll never be able to
Speaker 4: go back and try again.
Speaker 2: And it's not a sport where you go and play
Speaker 2: recreationally like basketball, you can stay involved hootball, you can
Speaker 2: get on a softball team, like you can do stuff
Speaker 2: like that. Ball you ain't going and be like, hey,
Speaker 2: let's fucking let's get the boys together real quick.
Speaker 1: Boys, yeah, which is.
Speaker 5: Actually awesome because then you can just be the greatest
Speaker 5: forever and like no one's ever gonna be like, dude,
Speaker 5: let's do a one on one passer. You're like, no,
Speaker 5: we're not doing that like that, Like so then you're
Speaker 5: just good forever, like you're good. But like you see
Speaker 5: these like former tour pros, they'll play in like a
Speaker 5: pro am and they're like terrible now and they hated
Speaker 5: and they're crated, Like.
Speaker 1: You never have to get that way about the game.
Speaker 5: But last thing for me, but I really appreciated earlier
Speaker 5: when you said, like when you were running today, like
Speaker 5: you had that like the presence about you to say like, man,
Speaker 5: I'm grateful that I can even out here running and
Speaker 5: like it sucks to on a conditioning session, especially you
Speaker 5: said you almost passed out. I hate to be like, man,
Speaker 5: I'm grateful for this opportunity because I know what how
Speaker 5: crappy was last year. I couldn't even run. Like if
Speaker 5: people will ask me, like what do you regret anything
Speaker 5: from your career? And like my biggest regret was, like
Speaker 5: the first five years of my career, I put so
Speaker 5: much pressure myself, Like, man, I bus like I keep
Speaker 5: getting hurt, you know, like I cared like way too
Speaker 5: much what everyone thought. And like the last like three
Speaker 5: or four years of my career, I would just drive
Speaker 5: to the stadium with.
Speaker 1: The sound off and be like, man, how cool is it?
Speaker 5: And I only lived my way, so it's like five minutes,
Speaker 5: a couple of stop lights, and I'm there.
Speaker 1: I'd be like, man, how cool is this?
Speaker 5: Like I didn't even start on my high school football
Speaker 5: team as a junior in high school, and now I
Speaker 5: get to go to an NFL facility and work like
Speaker 5: and I would walk in each day just like on
Speaker 5: fire to be there. And that changed my mindset completely,
Speaker 5: just like a small little gratitude practice. But like when
Speaker 5: you're in the league, like enjoy it, Like you work
Speaker 5: so hard to get there. In the moment, it's tough,
Speaker 5: you know, cause you're always worried about like it right
Speaker 5: when you get that next paychecker or am I going
Speaker 5: to get cut.
Speaker 1: If you lose?
Speaker 2: You put something bat on film, you're watching it any
Speaker 2: times a night, like fuck, yes, bring this up in
Speaker 2: the meeting tomorrow.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but it's like, man, you get to be a part,
Speaker 5: Like you get to live out your dream like enjoy
Speaker 5: it and who gives a crap if you have beat
Speaker 5: to play. It took me a while to realize, Like
Speaker 5: those dudes on Defense get paid too, right, Like it's okay,
Speaker 5: yeah it is.
Speaker 4: It's all about how it's worded to you two as
Speaker 4: you're receiving it from your coaches. Yes, like if the
Speaker 4: coach doesn't understand that they get paid too, and it's
Speaker 4: just like this cloud of like nothing's ever good enough.
Speaker 1: That's hard to deal with.
Speaker 4: That's hard to But you have to be comfortable with
Speaker 4: yourself working with a guy like Armando and doing that work,
Speaker 4: so you can be like, Okay, I'm doing what I
Speaker 4: need to do, and then you can be like you
Speaker 4: can be strategic about how you approach the next thing.
Speaker 1: I have to work on my hands. I have to
Speaker 1: work on my set.
Speaker 4: This way, my hips turn when I go to transition
Speaker 4: with the guys on the high end of the rush
Speaker 4: like those types of things, Like it's all about incrementally
Speaker 4: figuring out those little things and you just keep progressing.
Speaker 4: That's what great thing about campus camp fucking sucks. Nobody
Speaker 4: likes camp, but if you take it and like, I'm
Speaker 4: just gonna get better at this today, your whole game
Speaker 4: doesn't have to be good. But if you're like my
Speaker 4: backside cut offs. You don't ever have a backside cut
Speaker 4: up in a center, but like your man reaches or whatever, right,
Speaker 4: you're like, if I can just fit this good today,
Speaker 4: solid day, be a great all around game.
Speaker 1: You're not there yet. It's August, it's late July, whatever
Speaker 1: it is. So making the most of it, for sure
Speaker 1: is everything.
Speaker 2: And sometimes when you're getting coach trd like knowing that
Speaker 2: it's not like an attack on you personally, like it's
Speaker 2: not about you, Like, yeah, one thing that what I
Speaker 2: would think about holst me that would help me is
Speaker 2: knowing that that coach then leaves our meeting, has to
Speaker 2: go into a bigger meeting and they might be getting
Speaker 2: cussed at about something that their players are doing. He
Speaker 2: might be projecting, or him having his own deal with
Speaker 2: you just knowing like, yo, it's not even about you probably, Yeah,
Speaker 2: And there's.
Speaker 4: A it's tough too that when ego gets in the
Speaker 4: way of like if your coach like Keith our online coach,
Speaker 4: he's never played offensive line, he was a tight end.
Speaker 1: And then there's these.
Speaker 4: There are times where there's a there's a little bit
Speaker 4: of a disconnect in a way where you're like, dude,
Speaker 4: like you're asking for something in a simple way that
Speaker 4: it's not it's not that easy to do, right, you know,
Speaker 4: you can't like it's easy to talk about doing something
Speaker 4: or where your hat's supposed to be bullets are flying,
Speaker 4: Like shit's a little harder. That's what the great ones do.
Speaker 4: They make it look easy. That's what it's a rable comment.
Speaker 4: The great ones make it look easy. Joe Thomas is
Speaker 4: the perfect example of that. He would just go and
Speaker 4: you I'd watch them on a film legit be like yo,
Speaker 4: fuck Joe, Like he makes it shite look so damn easy.
Speaker 4: Never touch the ground in a ga maargic, just like chilling.
Speaker 4: I'm like, how is he getting back? And the guy
Speaker 4: just kind of falls into him. Yeah, I'm make my
Speaker 4: tenth Pro Bowl in ten years.
Speaker 5: You know it's ship like that an awesome story of
Speaker 5: my podcast about to keep that start streak alive.
Speaker 1: He didn't practice for like four straight weeks. His back
Speaker 1: was so bad.
Speaker 5: He was doing like two and a half hours of
Speaker 5: treatment before games, getting it shot up. He couldn't even
Speaker 5: sit in meetings. He had to stand because his back
Speaker 5: was so jacked up. And they're just like wheeling them
Speaker 5: out every week. But he had so much pride in
Speaker 5: that star streak and he was like, man, at this point,
Speaker 5: I like I can play, Yeah, I can get out there.
Speaker 5: So like, what's it saying about me now? If I've
Speaker 5: made all this money and I'm making these Pro Bowls
Speaker 5: and now I shut it down? Like am I selling out?
Speaker 5: And like, yeah, I couldn't do it. And he was like, man,
Speaker 5: it was like really dangerous what I was doing, dude.
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 4: I was at the game when he towards Trice up
Speaker 4: he was playing as Italians, and I was like, it
Speaker 4: was literally like watching somebody like I don't know, like
Speaker 4: an older brother.
Speaker 1: I have to be like watching a superhero.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it was like home Bown, What the fuck's
Speaker 4: that movie with the fucking the Fox and the Hound
Speaker 4: When the Mom gets killed and you're.
Speaker 1: Like, dam like you feel emotion like that, and of
Speaker 1: all the things to take him out of.
Speaker 4: Wild, bro, you know what I'm saying. But like it
Speaker 4: was like he was coming towards us. I was literally
Speaker 4: like sitting parallel just watching Joe, Like that's how you
Speaker 4: know you're that good. I'm on the sidelines a'fter I
Speaker 4: get whatever the coaching notes or or whatever, I go
Speaker 4: in the on the side, I'm watching him play, just
Speaker 4: to watch this. It's Joe Thomas and it goes down
Speaker 4: and I'm like, fuck, dude, that's wild. Just crazy that
Speaker 4: he did it for so long. I have that many reps,
Speaker 4: ten thousand whatever reps. Yeah, just wild on a terrible team.
Speaker 4: A terrible team, you know what I mean. I don't
Speaker 4: know if you talk about this on your podcast, but
Speaker 4: I heard he was gonna get traded to Denver the
Speaker 4: year they won a Super Bowl. Really and then I
Speaker 4: this is all he said, she said stuff. I have
Speaker 4: no idea, but apparently he went to the GM and
Speaker 4: I was like, please don't trade me. I want to
Speaker 4: I want to be here, and then they put in
Speaker 4: the form like three minutes late. So it never actually
Speaker 4: the transition transaction never happened. Wow, we won a super Bowl.
Speaker 1: That'd be a cool story. I know, I wonder if
Speaker 1: that's true.
Speaker 5: But playing in the same spot your whole career, Like
Speaker 5: there's something to that that's so cool that it's different
Speaker 5: because I think they made the playoffs one year. But
Speaker 5: like for me, like I couldn't leave Buffalo and then
Speaker 5: have them make the playoffs without me, Like that would
Speaker 5: if I was still playing and Buffalo made the playoffs
Speaker 5: and I wasn't.
Speaker 1: There for it, like that would have crushed me.
Speaker 4: I know, I know we got to go, but like,
Speaker 4: how are you gonna feel if the well Titans win
Speaker 4: the Super Bowl this year? But like if the Bill
Speaker 4: has ever beat the Titans for a Super Bowl, Like,
Speaker 4: how is that going to make you feel?
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm a static for them in success now,
Speaker 5: Like I have no ill will. That's part of the
Speaker 5: that's one of the good things about like your career
Speaker 5: aning the way mine did, Like there's no chance to
Speaker 5: be coming back. I didn't walk away, right, so like
Speaker 5: I can truly just root on those guys, and I
Speaker 5: love those dudes, like Brandon Bean's Like we we've talked
Speaker 5: about you know what happens when we went in the
Speaker 5: Super Bowl, Like am I in the longer room like
Speaker 5: am my parties and it's like you're.
Speaker 1: Everywhere I am. I'm like, I love you, b Yeah,
Speaker 1: get a ring. It does better you get a ring.
Speaker 1: That'd be hard. Yeah, that ring is the coolest thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it does suck. Thinking like the team you just left,
Speaker 1: like if they do well, well, I was. I was
Speaker 1: extended to be Josh Allen's center.
Speaker 5: Like they knew they were going to draft a quarterback
Speaker 5: high the next year, so they extended me to be
Speaker 5: like his mentor essentially, which would have been super tight
Speaker 5: to like, yeah, one day walk away and then you
Speaker 5: like poured into someone like Josh.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was just got all the talent in the world.
Speaker 4: He's unbeliev Yeah, he's unreal. Yeah that's awesome.
Speaker 1: Well appreciate you, bro. Now, well now we'll go ahead
Speaker 1: and in this one for yeah, for real real, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm putting the mic on beer.