WEBVTT - Eric Wood 0:00:01.880 --> 0:00:02.759 What's up? Boys? 0:00:03.000 --> 0:00:06.320 Welcome to another episode of Busting with the Boys. I 0:00:06.360 --> 0:00:08.800 am your host Will Compton, my co host Taylor Lawan. 0:00:09.000 --> 0:00:12.039 He is in Canada for the next month. The boy 0:00:12.119 --> 0:00:14.680 is going out his wife Taylor and shout out Taylor, 0:00:14.720 --> 0:00:15.560 no free shouts of tailing. 0:00:16.600 --> 0:00:17.639 She is from Canada. 0:00:17.800 --> 0:00:20.680 She hasn't been home in three years, so they're spending 0:00:20.720 --> 0:00:23.040 some time out in Canada. The boy's gonna get busy 0:00:23.040 --> 0:00:25.239 out there. It got the whole gym set up. He's 0:00:25.280 --> 0:00:27.680 like the fucking rock dude. He's got his Iron Paradise 0:00:27.720 --> 0:00:30.159 set up out there. They're on a beautiful lake. But 0:00:30.160 --> 0:00:31.920 he's gonna be living the dream for the next month. 0:00:32.000 --> 0:00:34.479 But you got your boy. This is gonna be our 0:00:34.560 --> 0:00:37.440 last week of doing where we drop two episodes. So 0:00:37.479 --> 0:00:40.280 you're gonna have Eric Wood today and then on Thursday, 0:00:40.280 --> 0:00:42.240 we got a nice little surprise the boy, the boy 0:00:42.280 --> 0:00:44.360 George Kittle, he's coming through to co host with me, 0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:47.159 shout out tight in you a little bit. But this 0:00:47.200 --> 0:00:50.120 will be the last week for two episodes per week. 0:00:50.200 --> 0:00:52.440 We go back to our regular programming. 0:00:52.760 --> 0:00:53.239 I love that. 0:00:53.360 --> 0:00:56.320 Go back to regular programming. One a week. We drop 0:00:56.360 --> 0:00:58.640 on Wednesdays. We will change all this stuff for you. 0:00:58.680 --> 0:01:02.320 We will update you guys on social media at BUSTINWTB, 0:01:02.360 --> 0:01:04.080 but we are going back to one a week, dropping 0:01:04.120 --> 0:01:10.600 every Wednesday six am. All audio platforms. Subscribe on Apple, Spotify, Google, 0:01:10.640 --> 0:01:11.120 all that stuff. 0:01:11.160 --> 0:01:13.360 You're listening right now. Do the boys a solid. 0:01:13.400 --> 0:01:15.920 You guys fucking help us out tremendously when you download 0:01:15.920 --> 0:01:19.160 the episodes, when you subscribe on Subscribe, resubscribe, do all 0:01:19.160 --> 0:01:22.800 that shit, and then of course video drops on YouTube 0:01:23.120 --> 0:01:25.680 at noon. This is all central time that I'm talking about. 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:26.280 But before we. 0:01:26.240 --> 0:01:28.360 Get in and everything, we got to shout out the 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:30.960 most durable, reliable vehicle on the road. 0:01:31.040 --> 0:01:32.640 The Chevy Silverado. 0:01:33.040 --> 0:01:36.520 Strong, dependable just like you folks who drive them, and 0:01:36.600 --> 0:01:39.160 hopefully a lot of new dads are driving the Chevy 0:01:39.200 --> 0:01:42.200 Silverado after hopefully their kids or wife bought them a 0:01:42.280 --> 0:01:45.959 Chevy truck over the weekend. The Chevy Silverado is modernate, advanced, 0:01:46.240 --> 0:01:49.240 with a ton of grit, a partner in getting things done, 0:01:49.320 --> 0:01:51.120 especially when it comes to the heart and soul of 0:01:51.160 --> 0:01:55.040 a pickup truck the bed. With the Silverado, you get 0:01:55.080 --> 0:02:00.200 the most functional bed of any competitor on the planet. 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:02.320 Think Class standard cargo volume. 0:02:02.640 --> 0:02:03.360 The inner gate. 0:02:03.360 --> 0:02:06.080 Folds to a large step for easily getting in and 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:08.919 out of the bed. Go to a Chevy dealership near 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:13.040 Go to a Chevy dealership near you. Let him know 0:02:13.080 --> 0:02:14.959 that the boys sends you. I think they're gonna throw 0:02:15.000 --> 0:02:16.920 in a free trailer hitch. The boys like to go 0:02:16.919 --> 0:02:19.160 to Freeland Chevy right here in the greater Nashville area. 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:21.520 But go buy yourself a Chevy Silverado. 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:24.919 The Summertimes, The Summertimes, Rolling Fourth of July is coming up. 0:02:25.080 --> 0:02:29.040 Nothing is more American than being in a Chevy Silverado. Strong, advanced, dependable, 0:02:29.040 --> 0:02:33.480 and hard working, just like you guys. 0:02:34.040 --> 0:02:35.640 All right, what can we talk about now? Boys? 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:39.320 I don't have my compadre Taylor here. What is new 0:02:39.360 --> 0:02:41.959 stuff for us? Before we get into talking all things, Eric, 0:02:42.040 --> 0:02:44.480 would we got some house cleaning we would like to 0:02:44.520 --> 0:02:46.919 take care of. If you're watching right now, you're gonna 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:50.040 see the boys repping a new colorway of the dad hats, 0:02:50.080 --> 0:02:52.959 the dad ropats. I'm wearing a black one white riding 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:53.680 white rope. 0:02:54.080 --> 0:02:55.960 It is fire. We got a lot of new. 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:59.040 Colorways for the for the dad hats, for the girl 0:02:59.160 --> 0:03:02.799 dad hats that are there right now. There's a wait 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:04.880 list right they're sold out. I think we're on a 0:03:04.880 --> 0:03:09.600 waiting list. A lot of new colorways coming with that too, 0:03:09.760 --> 0:03:12.959 Navy blue with the white, black with the white. There's 0:03:13.040 --> 0:03:15.280 a lot of different several colors that are coming with that. 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:16.800 So be on the lookout for new merch. But we 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:18.400 have new merch going on right now. You see your 0:03:18.400 --> 0:03:21.360 boys rocking. My favorite sure right now of the year 0:03:21.960 --> 0:03:26.240 is the uh Walmart looking for the boys, fucking eagle 0:03:27.000 --> 0:03:30.520 talents grabbing the bus, electricity everywhere for the boys in red, 0:03:30.520 --> 0:03:32.000 white and blue. This is what I'll be repping on 0:03:32.040 --> 0:03:34.280 the fourth of July. I will probably be repping the 0:03:34.320 --> 0:03:37.040 new tanks that we created. So we had such a 0:03:37.040 --> 0:03:40.280 good uh, we had such good feedback with these teas 0:03:40.360 --> 0:03:44.360 that we have now made them in in tanks possibly cruise. Yeah, 0:03:44.360 --> 0:03:47.160 there's cruise right there. We got swimming trunks, we got 0:03:47.160 --> 0:03:49.880 button downs for the summer vibes. We got everything you 0:03:49.960 --> 0:03:54.280 need at stored up store dot barstool sports dot com. 0:03:54.320 --> 0:03:58.320 Click brands on one of the tabs, scroll down just 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:00.560 to tad because we're in the bees and it'll be 0:04:00.600 --> 0:04:02.360 busting with the boys. Click on that and we've got 0:04:02.400 --> 0:04:04.400 everything that you need right there. In our store. 0:04:06.800 --> 0:04:07.320 What else? 0:04:07.600 --> 0:04:10.040 I hit the episodes? How are episodes? We're going back 0:04:10.040 --> 0:04:13.080 to regular programming. I hit the merchandise, the fire shit 0:04:13.120 --> 0:04:14.680 that we get. The boys got going on right now? 0:04:15.960 --> 0:04:18.479 Uh yeah, we you already said something about tightening you, 0:04:18.560 --> 0:04:20.680 and I'm sure we'll dive into yesday. 0:04:21.360 --> 0:04:24.320 Yeah, tight en You is coming to town. It's currently Tuesday. 0:04:24.320 --> 0:04:27.920 You guys are listening. Everybody's flying in today. George kitt Ole, 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:30.760 Travis Kelsey, Greg Olsen. They are putting these boys like 0:04:30.800 --> 0:04:34.680 they are having the highest of vibes for like a 0:04:34.720 --> 0:04:37.440 position group in the NFL. They're staying at the freaking 0:04:37.839 --> 0:04:40.080 I probably shouldn't say where they're staying at. I was 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:42.679 about to say, but they're staying in a nice little hotel. 0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:46.320 They're gonna have a lot of camaraderie. They're working with 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:48.360 college kids. They are working with the Boys and Girls Club. 0:04:48.360 --> 0:04:50.440 They're doing a lot of good shit. Man, shout out 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:53.440 tighten you. Free shouts to the boys, just because they're 0:04:53.440 --> 0:04:55.760 the boys. Greg he's a big friend of the Pot. 0:04:55.800 --> 0:04:58.000 He's actually one of the boys. We're hoping to get 0:04:58.000 --> 0:05:00.640 Greg Olsen on the POT. I have heard room that 0:05:00.760 --> 0:05:04.040 Josh Allen Buffalo Bill's quarterback is in town. 0:05:04.760 --> 0:05:06.839 That would be electric. We will do whatever pos. 0:05:06.720 --> 0:05:08.760 Talk about him on the episode You're about to listen 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:09.560 to with Eric Wood. 0:05:09.680 --> 0:05:11.800 Yeah, there you go. Shout out fucking Jack for that 0:05:11.839 --> 0:05:14.400 heads up play. We talk about Josh Allen. 0:05:14.440 --> 0:05:14.640 Yeah. 0:05:14.680 --> 0:05:16.800 Eric Wood comes on the podcast Boys. He's a former 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:20.320 Buffalo Bill. He was forced to retire and end his 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:24.039 career after a Pro Bowl season because of a bad 0:05:24.320 --> 0:05:28.760 severe neck injury. The dude number one Jack. I would 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:30.840 say he's in the tier of like Joe Thomas after 0:05:30.880 --> 0:05:32.880 retiring and you go from fat to fit. 0:05:32.960 --> 0:05:33.200 Dude. 0:05:33.279 --> 0:05:35.640 I think when he came on, Taylor was like, that's 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:36.919 me when I leave football. 0:05:36.960 --> 0:05:39.400 He's like, got so hyped about it. It was just 0:05:39.520 --> 0:05:40.400 I can't wait too. 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:41.640 He's got a bit of a chest though, you know 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:43.560 what I mean, Like Taylor, I feel like if he's 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:44.320 got to get some. 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:46.200 No I, you's got to get them shelves. You gotta 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:47.279 get them shelves on the chest. 0:05:47.520 --> 0:05:50.440 Google Eric Wood that the photos you see on Google 0:05:50.520 --> 0:05:51.800 are not the same guy. 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:53.680 Dude, Dude, Google Eric Wood. 0:05:53.720 --> 0:05:55.400 He's got some funny because he's got the curly hair, 0:05:55.400 --> 0:05:56.680 he's got the blonde curly hair. 0:05:56.960 --> 0:06:00.640 You can he's got some funny choby picks and dies 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:03.000 for ball. He was such a dude. He was all 0:06:03.040 --> 0:06:03.760 about ball. 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:07.360 We get into a lot of obviously Buffalo Bill's talk 0:06:07.640 --> 0:06:10.400 the time he was with Buffalo, how they're good now, 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:12.440 how they were shitty back then, why he thought they 0:06:12.440 --> 0:06:15.880 were shitty back then. We talk about how his career ended, 0:06:15.920 --> 0:06:17.840 how he dealt with that transition. We kind of dive 0:06:17.880 --> 0:06:20.799 into that because the man's an entrepreneur, he does a podcast, 0:06:20.800 --> 0:06:22.400 he's in the media game, he does a lot of 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:25.320 really cool shit. Because we talk about how football player 0:06:25.360 --> 0:06:28.320 struggle was like finding that next high, like that that 0:06:28.400 --> 0:06:31.080 next roller coaster after being in the league. You spend 0:06:31.080 --> 0:06:33.560 your entire life playing football, dreaming of playing football, being 0:06:33.560 --> 0:06:34.640 a professional football player. 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:36.240 You played at the highest level. 0:06:36.240 --> 0:06:39.240 You have all these highs, like the stardom, the fame 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:42.160 that comes with it, the money, all of the all 0:06:42.240 --> 0:06:45.320 of the benefits of being a professional athlete, and then 0:06:45.360 --> 0:06:47.600 when that gets kind of taken from you, like you 0:06:47.640 --> 0:06:50.239 feel like everything can be a little boring, right, because 0:06:50.240 --> 0:06:52.680 you're so used to like riding this high. And so 0:06:53.200 --> 0:06:55.520 we talk a lot about like chasing that next high, 0:06:55.520 --> 0:06:57.000 like what was it for him when he got out 0:06:57.000 --> 0:07:00.159 of it? Tells a hilarious Ritchie and Cognito story. We 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:02.320 talk about a lot of fun shit. He talks about 0:07:02.400 --> 0:07:08.320 Ryan Fitzpatrick. This was before Fitzmagic retired. Our tear talk 0:07:08.480 --> 0:07:13.040 was top beers. We talk about JJ Watt, Thanksgiving, gaining weight, 0:07:13.240 --> 0:07:14.680 a lot of fun stuff that I think you guys 0:07:14.680 --> 0:07:17.640 are really gonna enjoy. But Eric Wood was a stud. 0:07:17.640 --> 0:07:19.040 You guys might be thinking, I don't know if this 0:07:19.080 --> 0:07:21.400 pods for me. I swear to god, this is a 0:07:21.520 --> 0:07:24.320 very good conversation you guys who like love the names 0:07:24.360 --> 0:07:27.040 and everything else. Yeah, with Eric Wood, Like, he is 0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:28.680 a stud, but he's an old lineman. He's not like 0:07:28.720 --> 0:07:30.480 a big name. He's not a name. But as far 0:07:30.520 --> 0:07:33.280 as conversations go, this was a fucking banger. Boys, I'm 0:07:33.280 --> 0:07:36.760 telling you, but make sure to subscribe. Raate do all 0:07:36.800 --> 0:07:39.560 that stuff. Oh yeah, we talk about a lot of 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:42.640 his injuries outside of his neck as well, but anything 0:07:42.640 --> 0:07:44.560 else before we get into the episode. Boys, am I 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:46.320 missing anything? I hope you guys all had a wonderful 0:07:46.360 --> 0:07:49.360 Father's Day. It was my first one. I absolutely loved it. 0:07:49.640 --> 0:07:52.360 My wife started the morning off with a card, holding 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:55.840 ruin her arm, snuck upstairs, got Rue, brought her down. 0:07:56.160 --> 0:07:57.760 Made it seem like ruis giving me the card is 0:07:57.760 --> 0:07:59.800 the cutest thing in the world, and just got me 0:07:59.840 --> 0:08:02.000 in my feels immediately brought up my mom in the 0:08:02.040 --> 0:08:03.800 cart and all the good stuff. The boy was rolling 0:08:03.800 --> 0:08:05.920 in tears a little bit right out of bed. She 0:08:06.040 --> 0:08:07.600 had some I was like, oh, bye, you know how 0:08:07.600 --> 0:08:09.320 the boy, You know how your boy's on his diet shit. 0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:11.840 But you know, on weekends, we paused a diet from 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:13.560 five pm on Friday and we kick it back up 0:08:13.600 --> 0:08:16.280 at ten pm on Sunday and so on. 0:08:16.360 --> 0:08:17.680 When it was Father's Day. 0:08:18.080 --> 0:08:20.120 I was like, oh sweet, it's a little late, and 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:22.120 I'm gonna give a free shot out right here, but 0:08:22.400 --> 0:08:25.080 it's no free shoutouts. But it's a little late to 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:26.840 get bright Side Bakery. And she looked at me and 0:08:26.920 --> 0:08:28.560 she so sorry, got you, babe. I ordered him for 0:08:28.600 --> 0:08:30.600 pick up because bright Said bakery sells out. 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:31.080 Within an hour. 0:08:31.520 --> 0:08:33.240 They opened up at eight o'clock. By the time we 0:08:33.240 --> 0:08:35.320 picked him up at nine to fifteen on the door, 0:08:35.320 --> 0:08:37.240 it sets sold out. But they obviously if you order 0:08:37.240 --> 0:08:39.360 ahead of time, you go and pick up your box. 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:41.319 No free shouts at bright Side Bakery. For the love 0:08:41.320 --> 0:08:43.240 of God, we would love some gift cards since we're 0:08:43.280 --> 0:08:45.560 giving you a lot of love because your pastries are 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:46.400 fucking a one. 0:08:47.960 --> 0:08:51.199 And then we went over to Mike Chandler's. Had a great. 0:08:51.240 --> 0:08:56.640 Pool pool day, get some rays, grilled carnivore diet, and 0:08:57.440 --> 0:08:57.920 we had. 0:08:57.760 --> 0:08:58.360 Some high vies. 0:08:58.360 --> 0:09:00.560 Man, the boy had a stogy. I was in the dream. 0:09:00.559 --> 0:09:02.240 We had little ruin the pool and stuff like that. 0:09:02.240 --> 0:09:04.640 But I had a phenomenal Father's day. I hope all 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:06.320 the dads you guys did out there as well, and 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:08.559 everybody took care of their old man or their husband. 0:09:10.440 --> 0:09:12.360 But other than that, man, let's jump into the episode. 0:09:12.559 --> 0:09:14.120 Were good. They're old boys. 0:09:14.600 --> 0:09:17.360 You gonna and one of these are we just you 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:18.400 can just roll it into it. 0:09:18.679 --> 0:09:20.400 We can do it. I can shout out Duke Cannon 0:09:20.480 --> 0:09:22.680 right now. No free shots of Duke Cannon. 0:09:23.160 --> 0:09:23.679 Do canon. 0:09:23.760 --> 0:09:27.440 Deodan is made for guys who run hot boys. You 0:09:27.480 --> 0:09:29.920 can't smell me. 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So I just got I just 0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:23.720 got a text about it. Do uh tam from Tailing 0:11:23.760 --> 0:11:25.839 to like the rest of the family, and she had 0:11:25.880 --> 0:11:29.959 like four times this week pee and pooped in the toilet. 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:33.600 How sick is that? That's herself at the ties at 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:35.680 the time frame, like if from one day time, like 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:38.760 when was like two and a half when we were 0:11:38.760 --> 0:11:41.000 like it was probably like a little earlier than two 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:43.120 and a half, but like we started like all right, 0:11:43.120 --> 0:11:44.640 we got to do the party. Now, we gotta do this, 0:11:44.720 --> 0:11:46.280 and she picked it up pretty fast. But Willa is 0:11:46.320 --> 0:11:48.600 just like I'm doing all this shit. Yeah, she's trying 0:11:48.600 --> 0:11:50.440 to be like her sister. How many kids you have? 0:11:50.520 --> 0:11:51.720 We have two, six and four. 0:11:52.120 --> 0:11:54.680 Our little boy he was like three and a half, 0:11:54.840 --> 0:11:58.640 taking big boy dumps, like in my size kid taking 0:11:58.640 --> 0:12:01.680 big boy dumps in you doing. Our daughter was like 0:12:01.679 --> 0:12:05.640 the same way nineteen months Yeah, in her pants again, 0:12:05.679 --> 0:12:06.280 that's wild. 0:12:06.480 --> 0:12:09.080 Like girls think it's sick, boys are like screwed. 0:12:09.400 --> 0:12:13.480 My daughter takes the biggest shits my oldest. Her ships 0:12:13.480 --> 0:12:16.800 are like adult sized. She goes in there, no problems, 0:12:16.840 --> 0:12:18.959 screams at me, which rumps in a wiper and you 0:12:19.040 --> 0:12:20.840 just go and look at it and you're like, yeah, 0:12:20.960 --> 0:12:22.719 I had to get a picture of this is into somebody. 0:12:23.400 --> 0:12:24.360 It's unbelievable, dude. 0:12:24.480 --> 0:12:29.439 And Ryan Fitzpatrick's text chain is eighty percent kids dumps. 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:35.800 Each other. Yeah. Yeah, his youngest is three, and he 0:12:35.840 --> 0:12:36.800 can rip. 0:12:36.640 --> 0:12:40.080 Themhing to rip them, like something you'd find in the 0:12:40.080 --> 0:12:40.600 locker room. 0:12:40.760 --> 0:12:41.000 Dude. 0:12:41.080 --> 0:12:43.680 Uh but even this morning, like when you come in parents, 0:12:43.760 --> 0:12:46.760 like there's no more like my time, Like if you 0:12:46.760 --> 0:12:48.600 have to the bathroom and mom's not around, like that 0:12:48.640 --> 0:12:51.120 happened this morning, and I had to take a dunk 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:52.680 and I was like, I guess you guys are coming 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:54.360 with me. So I have a picture of my daughter 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:56.480 she's like plugging her nose, and my youngest is kind 0:12:56.480 --> 0:12:58.280 of just like looking with So it's just like me 0:12:58.320 --> 0:13:00.240 kind of looking like what's going on in there? And 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:02.440 I finished, and god forbid, I flushed it before they 0:13:02.440 --> 0:13:04.079 saw it. They had to take a look at it, 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:06.679 inspect it, give it its own grade, like it was unbelievable. 0:13:07.120 --> 0:13:10.680 See what they were all about it. It's weird. Things 0:13:10.679 --> 0:13:14.240 are hilarious, bro hilarious individuals. They're just like kind of 0:13:14.320 --> 0:13:17.160 drunk people or like drug addicts, like they're super happy 0:13:17.200 --> 0:13:19.240 and they're super mad. Then all of a suden're trying to 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:21.679 kill themselves for no reason. That's a that's a bit 0:13:22.000 --> 0:13:24.440 some comedian did back clarified that that's. 0:13:24.280 --> 0:13:25.520 A bit your kids aren't trying to kill it. 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:27.719 But you know what I'm saying, Like my daughter will 0:13:27.760 --> 0:13:29.040 like all of a sudden be like climbing up her 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:30.600 high chair and like standing on her high shir It's 0:13:30.640 --> 0:13:33.439 like you just gonna die, like what, You're a high 0:13:33.520 --> 0:13:35.640 ledge and you could follow at any moment going down 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:38.360 the stairs right at any point. 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:40.520 Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, you're trying to 0:13:40.520 --> 0:13:43.040 grab Willow's hand, and Willow's misindependent, Yeah she is. 0:13:43.080 --> 0:13:44.840 Yeah, Yeah, were over at the house today, well, And 0:13:44.880 --> 0:13:47.199 the oldest are always more cautious, Like we didn't even 0:13:47.240 --> 0:13:49.079 have to child prove our house for our daughter. Some 0:13:49.320 --> 0:13:52.160 comes along it's like everything needs to be childprooved, like 0:13:52.559 --> 0:13:54.200 get the baby gates out and everything. 0:13:54.200 --> 0:13:55.839 We didn't have to do any of that with my daughter. 0:13:56.120 --> 0:13:58.960 Little boys or different animals, especially if they're the second 0:13:59.280 --> 0:14:01.720 Why is it, I don't know. It's like something about 0:14:01.760 --> 0:14:04.280 that oldest mentality, Like the oldest ones are more mature, 0:14:04.320 --> 0:14:06.240 they're more cautious, they're rule followers. 0:14:06.559 --> 0:14:10.079 The second one. I don't know why. It's like, get 0:14:10.080 --> 0:14:11.719 a psychologist in here to explain it. 0:14:12.679 --> 0:14:15.600 I mean Cody, Cody's more of, like a way more 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:17.280 of a wild card than me. I'm the oldest, so 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:19.480 I would like, yeah, that kind of makes sense. Yeah, 0:14:19.480 --> 0:14:21.560 I feel like the oldest usually are kind of like that, 0:14:21.600 --> 0:14:23.480 and then the middle child, second child, they're kind of 0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:25.000 just like, what the fuck's that? 0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:25.280 Dudes. 0:14:25.360 --> 0:14:28.200 Deal a little different for me because my brother, my 0:14:28.280 --> 0:14:29.880 dad called him the Golden boy growing up. 0:14:29.920 --> 0:14:31.360 He was always he as younger than me. 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:34.160 He always came home, did his homework, first star athlete, 0:14:34.280 --> 0:14:36.040 was killing it, and I was kind of like your 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:37.040 wild card and. 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:37.760 You're the oldest. 0:14:37.880 --> 0:14:40.440 I'm the oldest. It's definitely flips now though. Did you 0:14:40.520 --> 0:14:43.520 drink formula? I did for a little bit. Yeah, I 0:14:43.560 --> 0:14:46.640 was like a little how I came out six pounds. 0:14:46.680 --> 0:14:48.680 I was tiny, Yeah, I mean I did for a 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:49.080 little bit. 0:14:50.160 --> 0:14:51.920 Pounds. My brother was My brother was a month early, 0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:54.720 was four and a half pounds. Damn. Yeah. They fit 0:14:54.760 --> 0:14:56.200 like in the palm of my dad's say. It was 0:14:56.240 --> 0:14:57.360 crazy wild. 0:14:57.520 --> 0:15:00.800 But you're talking about Ryan Fitzpatrick, like, hey, everybuddy I've 0:15:00.840 --> 0:15:01.360 ever talked to. 0:15:01.360 --> 0:15:02.040 You, like I missed him. 0:15:02.080 --> 0:15:03.960 I was like a year before year after he was 0:15:03.960 --> 0:15:06.360 at the Titans is he like the coolest dude ever? 0:15:06.480 --> 0:15:07.160 What he is. 0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:11.080 He's got absolutely no ego, which is not super rare 0:15:11.200 --> 0:15:14.760 but fairly rare for a quarterback. They have zero ego, 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:17.120 Like go into a game like Fitch, you've got to 0:15:17.160 --> 0:15:19.720 slide today, like we we can't win if we have 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:21.760 our backup in there, Like you've got to slide. 0:15:21.760 --> 0:15:22.680 But he has no ego. 0:15:23.320 --> 0:15:26.000 I always say everyone from the mailman in the building 0:15:26.240 --> 0:15:29.200 to the GM to every player, he's everybody's favorite dude. 0:15:29.440 --> 0:15:31.280 He's not like a party animal off the field, but 0:15:31.320 --> 0:15:33.200 you get him out a couple times a year. Yeah, 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:36.840 he's just he gets along with everybody, and everybody's walcome 0:15:36.880 --> 0:15:39.040 at his house. You know, he's got seven kids now, 0:15:39.120 --> 0:15:41.680 but like everybody on the team's welcome at his house, 0:15:41.920 --> 0:15:45.000 from the DB's to the wide receivers to the old 0:15:45.040 --> 0:15:48.280 line whoever may be. Like everyone's at his house. I mean, 0:15:48.320 --> 0:15:51.479 he's just he's the real deal. But it's it's consistency, 0:15:51.680 --> 0:15:53.840 you know what I mean, Like no ego. Every single day, 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:56.520 comes in, ready, works, works his stay off, not in 0:15:56.520 --> 0:15:58.040 the weight room, not a waightroom guy at all. 0:15:58.600 --> 0:16:01.880 Guy No, like he's got a great like chest, hair, body, though. 0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:04.080 You know what I'm saying that dad bod Yeah he does. 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:06.240 He's got a great style about him. 0:16:06.320 --> 0:16:09.040 Yeah, but like he'll drive a strength coach nuts, but 0:16:09.120 --> 0:16:12.080 he will grind on some film. But hard work are great. Dude, 0:16:12.080 --> 0:16:14.240 one of my best friends of this day. You got 0:16:14.520 --> 0:16:16.240 it hasn't come out yet, and I have no idea 0:16:16.240 --> 0:16:17.920 how I gotta show you what he wore to the 0:16:17.960 --> 0:16:20.280 Masters this weekend. So him, he goes to the Masters 0:16:20.280 --> 0:16:22.160 every year with his dad and his brothers. So he 0:16:22.200 --> 0:16:24.440 sends me this picture the other day and. 0:16:26.640 --> 0:16:32.440 We should want So there's him and his brother just 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:39.000 phenomenal beards. It's unreal, like these suit jackets with teal. Yeah, 0:16:39.080 --> 0:16:47.600 turn you turn and show the cameras. Outstanding, That's what 0:16:47.640 --> 0:16:47.960 I'm saying. 0:16:47.960 --> 0:16:50.080 I feel like his popularity probably went up even more 0:16:50.080 --> 0:16:52.160 when McGregor was like a superstar. 0:16:51.880 --> 0:16:54.920 And then gmcgregor and then the ego. The rest are 0:16:55.000 --> 0:17:00.800 just kids, don't pick. But did he he was the 0:17:00.800 --> 0:17:03.080 bills with you, Yeah he did. He give you the 0:17:03.160 --> 0:17:04.840 yetti cooler with his face on it. Just all the 0:17:04.880 --> 0:17:07.120 guys that the Tennessee got, yep, and the guy's at Houston. 0:17:07.160 --> 0:17:08.639 God, that's like his go to gift. 0:17:08.720 --> 0:17:10.520 That's his go to gift for a guy with no ego, 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:12.200 to give you a yetti with his picture on it. 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:13.919 Right, kind of streams differently a little bit. 0:17:13.960 --> 0:17:15.600 People see them, they're like, is that Zach Brown because 0:17:15.600 --> 0:17:17.600 it's like the beard and the he had on. 0:17:17.680 --> 0:17:19.360 But I'm like, no, it's Ryan Fitzpatrick. 0:17:19.400 --> 0:17:21.960 But when he got his extension with the Bills, that 0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:24.720 was his like big payday. He got like a five year, 0:17:24.800 --> 0:17:28.200 sixty million dollar deal, which was okay money at the time, 0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:30.040 like top fifteen starter mine. 0:17:30.040 --> 0:17:31.080 Oh where what it is now? 0:17:31.280 --> 0:17:34.080 No, not at all, but that was kind of mid tier, 0:17:34.119 --> 0:17:35.400 Like he knew he wasn't going to break the bank, 0:17:35.440 --> 0:17:38.160 but he wanted his stick in a situation. And man, 0:17:38.200 --> 0:17:40.040 a year and a half later, he broke his rids 0:17:40.040 --> 0:17:41.800 and didn't tell anybody. He played like crap the rest 0:17:41.840 --> 0:17:44.080 of the season. They going to cut him, draft DJ 0:17:44.240 --> 0:17:48.200 Manual and I honestly think we could have built something 0:17:48.280 --> 0:17:49.000 up there at that time. 0:17:49.160 --> 0:17:50.440 I mean, I'm the eternal optimist. 0:17:50.480 --> 0:17:52.600 You know, every year played in the longest playoff ro 0:17:52.600 --> 0:17:54.680 out in all professional sports at the time, and. 0:17:54.720 --> 0:17:57.399 Every year was our year. You know. Yeah, looking back, 0:17:58.040 --> 0:17:59.520 and you guys came in. 0:17:59.720 --> 0:18:02.159 When you guys came in, there was a spending floor, 0:18:02.320 --> 0:18:04.440 like teams had to spend a certain amount. Not when 0:18:04.440 --> 0:18:07.000 I first got in the league, like our team, when 0:18:07.000 --> 0:18:09.000 I look back at my rookie year, we had a 0:18:09.040 --> 0:18:13.960 few big names that could sell some tickets too, Lee Evans, 0:18:14.119 --> 0:18:16.760 our quarterback was Trent Edward's fits was the backup at first. 0:18:17.359 --> 0:18:20.200 But like we were terrible and we spent no money, 0:18:20.760 --> 0:18:23.200 like really back It's like, man, that wasn't even fair, 0:18:23.320 --> 0:18:25.080 Like we were out there risking our bodies and like 0:18:25.080 --> 0:18:27.159 we weren't even putting the money out there to do it. 0:18:27.200 --> 0:18:30.440 But our owner, Ralph wils was on his deathbed. So 0:18:30.920 --> 0:18:33.720 you have other people like can we spend all this money? 0:18:33.720 --> 0:18:34.840 Can we do this? Do that? 0:18:35.200 --> 0:18:37.320 Google has a bought the team totally different. Look how 0:18:37.359 --> 0:18:38.400 they're spending money now, Like I. 0:18:38.320 --> 0:18:38.840 Have no idea. 0:18:39.280 --> 0:18:41.320 I had no idea how Brandon Bean has gotten all 0:18:41.320 --> 0:18:43.720 these guys under the cap. This year they're bringing in everybody. 0:18:43.760 --> 0:18:46.479 They're bringing von They do josh As deal. Last year 0:18:46.480 --> 0:18:50.120 they just redo digs deal, de Kwan Jones. They bring 0:18:50.200 --> 0:18:53.639 him in, Rod and Staffold you know, which is funny. 0:18:53.640 --> 0:18:55.280 And we got to get to talking the Little Bills 0:18:55.280 --> 0:18:59.720 Titans at some point. Absolutely the Bill's nemesis, like last 0:18:59.840 --> 0:19:02.080 year was teams that can get physical with him, which 0:19:02.240 --> 0:19:05.119 everybody built their defenses now to defend the Chiefs in 0:19:05.200 --> 0:19:06.840 the AOC. And then you get a team like you 0:19:06.840 --> 0:19:08.800 guys and just run over them. Well, now I think 0:19:08.800 --> 0:19:10.560 they're like, man, we need a little bit of that attitude. 0:19:10.640 --> 0:19:12.639 And then they just go right to the Titans, bring me, 0:19:13.000 --> 0:19:15.800 bring in Saffold and Dai Kwan Jones and you know 0:19:15.840 --> 0:19:17.720 them way better than me. But I think they think 0:19:17.720 --> 0:19:20.120 they're gonna come in and be more tone setters for them. 0:19:20.200 --> 0:19:22.159 Yeah, Rogers one of the best run blocking guards I've 0:19:22.160 --> 0:19:23.000 ever seen in my life. 0:19:23.040 --> 0:19:25.919 Good, he's average. 0:19:28.000 --> 0:19:32.080 Cost me for my life, bro, it's not even as 0:19:32.119 --> 0:19:35.280 well like I've seen him do that to everybody, bro everything. 0:19:35.320 --> 0:19:36.760 The only person I han't seen him do that to 0:19:36.880 --> 0:19:37.480 his high tower. 0:19:37.800 --> 0:19:39.600 Yeah, he would just try and make me feel better, 0:19:39.640 --> 0:19:41.159 but I'd be like, hey, comp I got I got 0:19:41.240 --> 0:19:42.879 somebody this week, and then he'd like show me in 0:19:42.880 --> 0:19:43.160 a beg. 0:19:43.200 --> 0:19:45.840 Well I do feel better than yeah, just just everybody. 0:19:45.880 --> 0:19:47.520 But what's the weakness of his game? 0:19:47.520 --> 0:19:49.520 Why is is I'm not here to I'm not here 0:19:49.560 --> 0:19:50.720 to talk about Rogers weeks. 0:19:51.560 --> 0:19:54.800 I'm not gonna soil my boy. He was okay, so uh. 0:19:54.960 --> 0:19:57.880 I will tell you like Roger's conditioning is incredible. He's 0:19:57.920 --> 0:19:59.960 a hard worker. He's always grunning in the weight room. 0:20:00.359 --> 0:20:01.000 I think. 0:20:02.280 --> 0:20:04.080 I think he's gonna do really well at the Bills. 0:20:04.119 --> 0:20:05.800 It seems like your coach is a guy that kind 0:20:05.840 --> 0:20:07.720 of keeps hit guys together, like kind of. 0:20:07.680 --> 0:20:08.320 Like Rabel does. 0:20:08.359 --> 0:20:10.520 He's got to lead a leader of men mentality, and 0:20:10.560 --> 0:20:12.480 he guys got all the pieces already. 0:20:12.560 --> 0:20:14.840 The Bills are that fucking team. 0:20:14.880 --> 0:20:17.320 I came at the Bills I think after it was 0:20:17.320 --> 0:20:19.919 like my first game back from suspension, and I started 0:20:19.920 --> 0:20:23.680 talking shit to Shaq laws in Shack Lawson, Yeah out 0:20:23.680 --> 0:20:25.600 of nowhere and the Bills and this is like not 0:20:25.640 --> 0:20:29.760 even really playing, and they the Bills mafia fucked my 0:20:29.800 --> 0:20:30.720 world up on Twitter. 0:20:30.880 --> 0:20:33.320 Absolutely strong, dude. They are so strong. 0:20:33.359 --> 0:20:36.919 It's like you want that as as a player, Like 0:20:36.960 --> 0:20:39.199 you want your fan base to be like that. And 0:20:39.280 --> 0:20:41.360 even for me, like going to see those fan base, 0:20:41.400 --> 0:20:43.840 it's like it's fucking wild out there. Yeah, valls are 0:20:43.840 --> 0:20:47.080 the same way. Shout out Jack back there, the volunteers 0:20:47.560 --> 0:20:50.880 go hard. But yeah, I think I think Roger's gonna 0:20:50.920 --> 0:20:51.840 do a great job. 0:20:51.880 --> 0:20:54.760 Aaron Kromer, who he had in LA right, Yeah, Yeah, 0:20:54.840 --> 0:20:58.040 Chromer's awesome. I played for Chromer. He's one of the 0:20:58.040 --> 0:21:00.199 best offensive line coach in the league. He's like he 0:21:00.280 --> 0:21:02.840 learned under Howard Mudd and Bill Callahan, so he's got 0:21:02.880 --> 0:21:05.040 like a little bit of that, like we're tougher than them, 0:21:05.080 --> 0:21:06.800 go drive them off the ball. But then he teaches 0:21:06.840 --> 0:21:08.600 you what I called the ninja tricks of o line, 0:21:08.680 --> 0:21:11.879 like grapping the hand down the hand, reach around, grabbed 0:21:11.880 --> 0:21:12.320 their hip. 0:21:12.440 --> 0:21:12.640 Yeah. 0:21:12.840 --> 0:21:14.440 I did it to Bobby Wagner at the Pro Bowl 0:21:14.440 --> 0:21:16.439 one time, Like I let him get past me, and 0:21:16.480 --> 0:21:19.119 then we were running outside and so I just grabbed 0:21:19.160 --> 0:21:21.520 his opposite hip and just threw him up towards the field. 0:21:21.640 --> 0:21:21.840 Yeah. 0:21:21.880 --> 0:21:24.440 Bobby turned around like, what the hell was that little 0:21:24.520 --> 0:21:26.120 ninja trick? Brother, litt ninja trick? 0:21:26.200 --> 0:21:26.400 Yeah? 0:21:26.600 --> 0:21:26.720 You know. 0:21:27.040 --> 0:21:27.560 Uh. 0:21:27.720 --> 0:21:30.600 When I was at the Pro Bowl in sixteen, the 0:21:30.640 --> 0:21:33.399 coaches were I think the the San Diego Chargers at 0:21:33.440 --> 0:21:36.080 the time, and the line coach was like literally teaching 0:21:36.119 --> 0:21:38.720 that to us in the individual drill. Yeah, I believe 0:21:38.760 --> 0:21:39.600 that was I don't know. 0:21:39.520 --> 0:21:42.800 It was Aaron's assistant, Thrumer's assistant in Buffalo. 0:21:43.160 --> 0:21:44.720 He was incredible. He was like, all you got to 0:21:44.760 --> 0:21:45.520 do is grab the hip. 0:21:46.240 --> 0:21:48.640 So I like, you know, our on line coach at 0:21:48.680 --> 0:21:51.159 the Titans, He's very like, this is how you do it. 0:21:51.200 --> 0:21:52.679 That's how you do it. There's no other way to 0:21:52.680 --> 0:21:53.560 do it. This is the way. 0:21:54.080 --> 0:21:56.800 And I pulled one of those out in Houston, like 0:21:56.920 --> 0:21:58.520 grabbed the dude's hip. He totally beat me off. The 0:21:58.520 --> 0:22:00.960 ball got to step through him. I was like fifteen yards. 0:22:01.000 --> 0:22:03.960 I'm like, fuck, that shit works. Every ref around was like, hey, 0:22:04.000 --> 0:22:05.520 don't do that. I know, you know, they kind of 0:22:05.520 --> 0:22:08.000 gave me the warning. But yards were made, baby, I 0:22:08.000 --> 0:22:10.879 know I was about it. Yeah, those little tricks are something. 0:22:11.680 --> 0:22:13.919 The issue with having tricks as an offense alignment is 0:22:14.800 --> 0:22:16.200 a lot of guys like to use that as like 0:22:16.240 --> 0:22:18.280 their fastball, when it's like, no, that's a change up. 0:22:18.440 --> 0:22:20.119 You gotta if you want to flash the hand, do 0:22:20.160 --> 0:22:22.399 you want to jump set or like different things like 0:22:22.440 --> 0:22:24.119 you gotta have your go to every time and then 0:22:24.160 --> 0:22:25.360 a switch up to keep him on their toes. 0:22:25.440 --> 0:22:27.680 No doubt at center, you can't really do it a tackle. 0:22:27.760 --> 0:22:29.880 But my biggest changeup was like, and I would only 0:22:29.920 --> 0:22:31.280 do it if I had a dude who I was 0:22:31.280 --> 0:22:33.200 gonna struggle with in passpor but take my off hand 0:22:33.200 --> 0:22:35.440 and just pop them right on the forehead. 0:22:35.520 --> 0:22:37.639 That's a big thing for centers, right. You know, do 0:22:37.680 --> 0:22:39.560 you ever do you ever meet a David Molk? He 0:22:39.600 --> 0:22:42.080 played for the Eagles and the Charges for a little bit, 0:22:42.160 --> 0:22:43.320 hit a couple of coffee in the league. 0:22:43.359 --> 0:22:45.959 Yeah, but he was the Remington Award winner. Yeah, he had. 0:22:46.119 --> 0:22:48.040 He won the Remington Award at Michigan, And that was 0:22:48.080 --> 0:22:50.040 his big thing is if there was a dude. 0:22:50.040 --> 0:22:52.040 He was a smaller guys, strong as a Knox though. 0:22:52.320 --> 0:22:53.920 He's like anytime the guys didn't give an issue, I 0:22:53.960 --> 0:22:55.919 fucking just jammed right in the face right away and 0:22:55.960 --> 0:22:57.800 then back up and then guy's kind of disoriented. 0:22:57.880 --> 0:22:58.920 Yep, it's a genius move. 0:22:59.000 --> 0:23:01.000 And then you buy a second and most pass plays 0:23:01.080 --> 0:23:02.919 left two and a half seconds, so now you got 0:23:02.920 --> 0:23:04.439 a second and a half the block of guys opposed 0:23:04.480 --> 0:23:06.280 to two and a half seconds. Yeah, but you can't 0:23:06.280 --> 0:23:08.080 do it every time, and then the refs don't like 0:23:08.119 --> 0:23:10.440 it either, right, because it catches them off guard, like, well, 0:23:10.440 --> 0:23:12.240 what'd you do is the hands of the face. I'm like, yeah, 0:23:12.320 --> 0:23:14.080 I mean I threw my hand to hit him in 0:23:14.080 --> 0:23:16.280 the chest. He ducked his head. I mean, yeah, exactly. 0:23:16.440 --> 0:23:17.680 And there's always a greary. 0:23:17.720 --> 0:23:19.359 It's kind of like at their discretion when they can 0:23:19.359 --> 0:23:20.800 call it because you can grab the face mask if 0:23:20.800 --> 0:23:23.840 you pull off. Some refs are cooler about that. But 0:23:23.880 --> 0:23:25.119 if you just have it up there for a little bit, 0:23:25.119 --> 0:23:26.000 your ass is getting called. 0:23:26.040 --> 0:23:27.000 Oh, no doubt about it. 0:23:27.040 --> 0:23:31.120 And like for me, the umpires behind me so all 0:23:31.200 --> 0:23:33.240 the time, Like I'm a taller center, so all the 0:23:33.240 --> 0:23:35.480 time people get me right under the chin and just 0:23:35.640 --> 0:23:37.959 drive me back. I'm like, turn it around midplay, like 0:23:38.080 --> 0:23:39.879 what but they can't see through you. 0:23:39.960 --> 0:23:40.160 Yeah. 0:23:40.160 --> 0:23:42.400 And also the quarterbacks right behind you have the running back. 0:23:42.400 --> 0:23:43.639 You guys are kind of in a little cluster. 0:23:43.880 --> 0:23:44.080 I know. 0:23:44.359 --> 0:23:47.160 In the beginning of my career it was I didn't 0:23:47.160 --> 0:23:48.679 play the game with the refs. It was like, you know, 0:23:48.720 --> 0:23:50.760 butter them up, shake their hands, house life, Oh you 0:23:50.800 --> 0:23:53.199 had kids, the whole thing. I didn't do that, So 0:23:53.280 --> 0:23:54.840 I do something they would the a fact, I mean 0:23:55.040 --> 0:23:59.600 a flag at me. Hey, that was just a misfranspronunciation. 0:24:00.040 --> 0:24:02.360 Please don't come at the boy, but they would throw 0:24:02.359 --> 0:24:03.800 a flag and I'd get it. I'd be like, what 0:24:03.800 --> 0:24:05.440 the fuck are you doing kind of go at them. 0:24:05.560 --> 0:24:06.919 And as I've gotten older, I was like, you just 0:24:06.960 --> 0:24:09.320 they're humans, So if you're just nice to them a 0:24:09.359 --> 0:24:11.040 little bit, they'll come work with you. 0:24:11.119 --> 0:24:12.560 And now you start to know the guys and stuff 0:24:12.600 --> 0:24:13.879 like that. It's a it's. 0:24:13.840 --> 0:24:17.040 Chess, dude, early different games it is. Earlier in my career, 0:24:17.040 --> 0:24:18.720 I thought I was coach k out there. I mean 0:24:18.800 --> 0:24:21.160 I was all over the refs, hammering them, hammering them. 0:24:21.320 --> 0:24:24.600 I had back to back double holding call games, which 0:24:24.640 --> 0:24:27.960 is an offensive line, just absolute nightmare sound games a 0:24:28.040 --> 0:24:29.959 year four and I was like, man, I need a 0:24:29.960 --> 0:24:32.160 totally different approach. I went into every game the rest 0:24:32.160 --> 0:24:34.320 of my career knew the umpire's name. If we had 0:24:34.359 --> 0:24:36.120 them before, It's like, okay, when do we have him, 0:24:36.320 --> 0:24:37.359 I'll talk to him about that. 0:24:37.560 --> 0:24:39.639 Hey, here's what I'm gonna do with my silent count today. 0:24:39.880 --> 0:24:41.879 Let me know if there's an issue, Hey, did you 0:24:41.920 --> 0:24:43.000 see anything on film? 0:24:43.240 --> 0:24:44.200 Alignment issues? 0:24:44.240 --> 0:24:46.680 Give us a warning and dude, the whole game, they'd 0:24:46.680 --> 0:24:48.879 be like, get your tackle up. Is it supposed to 0:24:49.160 --> 0:24:51.080 throw in the flag? It's like, man, why the heck 0:24:51.080 --> 0:24:52.800 what did I do with that? The whole time of 0:24:52.800 --> 0:24:54.159 my career. But I was also a little bit of 0:24:54.160 --> 0:24:58.480 a psychopath early my career. My rookie year at at Tennessee, 0:24:59.280 --> 0:25:01.760 Dan and Bosh played Nebraska with one of my teammates 0:25:01.800 --> 0:25:04.520 and good buddes, Chris Kelsey, who just absolute meatheads. 0:25:04.840 --> 0:25:07.080 Well, I basketbays I got. 0:25:07.480 --> 0:25:09.520 I was playing guards at the time, and I just 0:25:09.760 --> 0:25:12.159 wiped Van and Bosh out of the pocket, got him 0:25:12.200 --> 0:25:12.640 pretty good. 0:25:12.640 --> 0:25:14.760 One time he was bull rushing our tackle. 0:25:14.800 --> 0:25:17.199 Well, we throw a pick six, and it's like a 0:25:17.280 --> 0:25:19.800 quick pick six, so the dude runs in the end zone. 0:25:19.840 --> 0:25:21.240 They got off a hitch or something like that, like 0:25:21.280 --> 0:25:22.160 in the third minute. 0:25:21.960 --> 0:25:24.919 And Vandon Bosh after they scored, comes and just wipes 0:25:24.960 --> 0:25:27.680 me out fifteen yard penalty, big fine, and Any went 0:25:27.720 --> 0:25:29.320 in the locker room after the game, didn't even shake 0:25:29.320 --> 0:25:29.960 hands with Kelsey. 0:25:30.000 --> 0:25:31.800 His college roommate goes like, what the hell did you 0:25:31.840 --> 0:25:32.480 do to Vandabosh. 0:25:32.560 --> 0:25:33.760 I was like, dude, I was wearing him out there 0:25:33.800 --> 0:25:36.120 another games, like talking so much trash if he's probably 0:25:36.160 --> 0:25:38.640 thirty five years old, Like, well, this dude, just shut 0:25:38.800 --> 0:25:39.920 up and leave me alone. 0:25:40.440 --> 0:25:42.840 They're smoking us, like out there having fun. 0:25:43.200 --> 0:25:46.680 The thing about like coming going into guys like when 0:25:46.680 --> 0:25:48.879 you slide in slide protection or something like that, the 0:25:49.119 --> 0:25:50.919 three technique makes an inside move and he's gonna fuck 0:25:51.000 --> 0:25:53.040 them up or something like that. That's kind of gone 0:25:53.080 --> 0:25:54.879 away a little bit. They're definitely big on, like no 0:25:54.960 --> 0:25:58.000 blindside heads or so they don't even weird wiping out 0:25:58.080 --> 0:25:58.520 the pocket. 0:25:58.600 --> 0:26:00.600 It's weird. Yet Ben was one of the best at that. 0:26:00.800 --> 0:26:02.520 Yeah, Like Ben would sit there, he had nothing to 0:26:02.560 --> 0:26:05.400 do and go smoke somebody and hear him his big 0:26:05.440 --> 0:26:07.280 hit ass just kind of laughing in the corner as 0:26:07.280 --> 0:26:09.880 he did something. But they're like they're kind of big on, like, hey, 0:26:09.880 --> 0:26:13.080 don't do that anymore, which sucks because for me, if 0:26:13.080 --> 0:26:15.520 I have like a two I or a nose and 0:26:15.600 --> 0:26:17.040 I have an end right here and he's gonna bull 0:26:17.119 --> 0:26:18.959 rush me, like I want my guard to couldn't clean 0:26:19.040 --> 0:26:20.720 that up. Or if he goes inside, I want my 0:26:20.720 --> 0:26:22.840 guard to fuck him up a little bit because he knows, like, 0:26:22.840 --> 0:26:24.720 all right, we gotta play the outside game now. Now 0:26:24.760 --> 0:26:26.760 we're playing basketball, and that's that's my game, you know 0:26:26.800 --> 0:26:28.280 what I'm saying, Especially in pass bro. 0:26:28.280 --> 0:26:29.479 No doubt about it. I know it. 0:26:29.680 --> 0:26:31.840 I would always try and set vertical off the ball, 0:26:32.119 --> 0:26:33.880 make that three technique, think he had a two way 0:26:33.880 --> 0:26:35.840 go and think he could spin and man, you catch. 0:26:35.880 --> 0:26:38.119 There's no better feeling as a center than when you 0:26:38.160 --> 0:26:40.119 see that three technique spin and you know you're just 0:26:40.160 --> 0:26:42.120 gonna clean him as soon as he turns his head. 0:26:42.200 --> 0:26:43.879 Did you see Quentin Nelson? 0:26:43.920 --> 0:26:45.560 I think it was like two years ago against the 0:26:45.680 --> 0:26:50.280 Chargers Melvin Ingram and he does spin move, uh. 0:26:50.480 --> 0:26:52.679 Laid him down? H Yeah? What was his name? The Castro? 0:26:52.840 --> 0:26:56.000 No, not, the Castro was a guard, Castanza, the left tackle. 0:26:56.000 --> 0:26:58.320 He does spin on him and he fucking cleans them, 0:26:58.720 --> 0:27:01.360 absolutely murder. It was one of the most beautiful blocking plays. 0:27:01.160 --> 0:27:03.679 Where Nelson does things on a football field for a 0:27:03.720 --> 0:27:05.280 guard that just like shouldn't happen. 0:27:05.320 --> 0:27:06.879 What do you think it makes him so special? I 0:27:06.880 --> 0:27:08.000 think he's really smart. 0:27:08.080 --> 0:27:11.280 Now he's like super talented, but I think the way 0:27:11.359 --> 0:27:14.560 he the way he's able to pick stuff up and 0:27:14.640 --> 0:27:17.080 what he does now he's mean, but then like he 0:27:17.119 --> 0:27:18.879 plays with a ton of attitude. But then you'll hear 0:27:18.920 --> 0:27:20.479 him miked up and he like picks a dude up, 0:27:20.520 --> 0:27:22.840 like hey, my bad or you all right, yeah, how 0:27:22.880 --> 0:27:23.600 do you switch it on? 0:27:23.680 --> 0:27:24.400 And not like that? 0:27:24.520 --> 0:27:27.480 Like I'm either like like I hated playing against domeatop 0:27:27.520 --> 0:27:29.359 Peco because he was so nice. He would get me 0:27:29.359 --> 0:27:33.679 out of my game, right, he has the fan and 0:27:33.720 --> 0:27:35.639 so like the whole game he'd be like, butter me up, 0:27:35.680 --> 0:27:36.800 and then all of a sudden he like gets my 0:27:36.840 --> 0:27:40.480 hand and like hits the quarterback. I'm like like you 0:27:40.600 --> 0:27:42.440 got me, you got me, And so like I don't 0:27:42.440 --> 0:27:44.280 know how Quinn Nelson turns it on and off. But 0:27:44.560 --> 0:27:47.439 he's got a great combination of size, speed, strength, and 0:27:47.480 --> 0:27:48.840 then I think he's really smart. 0:27:49.240 --> 0:27:50.800 Yeah, he does a lot of stuff. 0:27:50.800 --> 0:27:52.320 He gets away with a lot of stuff as far 0:27:52.320 --> 0:27:55.119 as like grabbing guys in the outside. He's got a 0:27:55.119 --> 0:27:57.199 great reputation. I know a lot of guards like to 0:27:57.200 --> 0:27:58.840 talk trash on him, but that's my boy. 0:27:59.200 --> 0:27:59.360 Yeah. 0:27:59.400 --> 0:28:01.240 The thing is when you work out with him, guy's 0:28:01.240 --> 0:28:04.120 got a tank like no one else. When it comes conditioning, 0:28:04.160 --> 0:28:06.639 he can just roll all day. He's talking shit. But 0:28:06.680 --> 0:28:08.199 then you go and like hang out and he's like 0:28:08.680 --> 0:28:10.920 super mild manner, the nicest guy in the world. 0:28:11.160 --> 0:28:13.160 Like he's just awesome to be around, even around cue. 0:28:13.160 --> 0:28:15.680 He's a sweetheart. He's a sweetheart, dude. You just look 0:28:15.680 --> 0:28:15.959 at him. 0:28:16.000 --> 0:28:18.400 You're like, this, dude's a fucking tank, right, just a 0:28:18.440 --> 0:28:22.080 massive individual, individual, giant traps like kind of walks around 0:28:22.680 --> 0:28:24.560 and it's just like hold monster. 0:28:24.600 --> 0:28:26.320 When they stuck came out at left tackle, he really 0:28:26.359 --> 0:28:27.800 showed off his athleticism. 0:28:27.880 --> 0:28:29.800 Yeah, a lot of guards can pop out the player. 0:28:30.400 --> 0:28:31.159 Yeah that's wild. 0:28:31.240 --> 0:28:33.560 That's a different animal playing left tackle. You bump out 0:28:33.560 --> 0:28:34.800 the right and you got the tight end on your 0:28:34.840 --> 0:28:35.359 side and all that. 0:28:35.960 --> 0:28:36.520 It's fine. 0:28:37.080 --> 0:28:39.400 You got the left tackle on an open edge against 0:28:39.440 --> 0:28:41.640 the defensive ends that are going to go against you, 0:28:41.760 --> 0:28:43.000 and they just pop him out there and. 0:28:42.920 --> 0:28:46.960 He just doesn't even blink. It unbelievable. Just a couple 0:28:47.000 --> 0:28:48.040 of hogs talking ball. 0:28:50.040 --> 0:28:52.880 I love the old war story. You say one, Taylor 0:28:53.120 --> 0:28:55.360 thinks about a memory, He says one. You remember, you 0:28:55.360 --> 0:28:58.280 say one. Both pro bowlers just hogs in the trenches. 0:28:58.360 --> 0:28:58.600 Dude. 0:28:58.640 --> 0:29:02.400 You I looked over and saw your busting hat and like, 0:29:02.640 --> 0:29:05.880 my wife is always cool, Like we're down here celebrating 0:29:05.920 --> 0:29:07.560 our tenure aiversary and I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna go, 0:29:08.000 --> 0:29:11.120 thank you, thank you, And uh so she wanted to 0:29:11.120 --> 0:29:13.080 take a nap anyways before the Garth concert tonight, but 0:29:13.120 --> 0:29:15.080 I was like, hey, I'm gonna go to a podcast 0:29:15.160 --> 0:29:17.880 and we listened to the Pat McAfee one on the 0:29:17.880 --> 0:29:18.200 way down. 0:29:18.240 --> 0:29:19.720 Like she knew who Pat was. We listened to that 0:29:19.800 --> 0:29:20.880 on the drive down. 0:29:21.040 --> 0:29:23.280 But we were walking around the Gulch today and someone 0:29:23.280 --> 0:29:25.320 had one on one of those hatches, like someone random, 0:29:25.480 --> 0:29:27.520 and I was like, that's the podcast and she's like, 0:29:27.520 --> 0:29:29.360 that's pretty tight that, Like people were just walking around 0:29:29.400 --> 0:29:30.760 Nashville with the year on it. I know a bunch 0:29:30.760 --> 0:29:33.480 of people do that like that like set it in 0:29:33.600 --> 0:29:34.960 so and that it was like pretty cool. 0:29:35.000 --> 0:29:37.040 I podcast, no doubt about it. 0:29:37.240 --> 0:29:39.440 Oh yeah, with a real deal Like this is a huge, 0:29:39.560 --> 0:29:43.720 great point everybody listening right everybody listening right now needs 0:29:43.720 --> 0:29:43.960 to go. 0:29:43.920 --> 0:29:46.080 To our merch store and cops some merse bussing through. 0:29:46.400 --> 0:29:50.200 That's probably in all of our links, your Twitter, my Twitter, 0:29:50.240 --> 0:29:51.000 Everyone's Twitter. 0:29:51.120 --> 0:29:52.320 Yeah, it's gonna be in the link. 0:29:52.360 --> 0:29:54.160 But yeah, dude, it's crazy how Nashville is kind of 0:29:54.160 --> 0:29:56.640 like taking us in. You know, it's been Willow and 0:29:56.680 --> 0:29:59.600 played here for two years, had a little bug fly. 0:30:01.080 --> 0:30:05.600 Yeah it's just one year, bro, and it's crazy because 0:30:05.600 --> 0:30:07.240 you will go out now and any like, if I 0:30:07.280 --> 0:30:09.560 go anywhere, it's like I get at least one the boys. 0:30:09.600 --> 0:30:11.040 I'm like walking mindy, kind of like throw up a 0:30:11.080 --> 0:30:12.200 quick deuce as you're walking. 0:30:12.440 --> 0:30:14.040 I've heard you guys talk about this over the years. 0:30:14.040 --> 0:30:17.560 Has it quieted down as far as Oh Taylor had 0:30:17.600 --> 0:30:20.240 a holding call, must be too worried about the podcast? 0:30:20.240 --> 0:30:21.400 Like has that quieted down? 0:30:21.640 --> 0:30:24.000 I think we've quieted it down in our heads, like 0:30:24.040 --> 0:30:24.480 it's fine. 0:30:24.520 --> 0:30:25.840 It's once. 0:30:25.920 --> 0:30:30.520 It's like no, no, it's yeah, it's just as bad 0:30:30.520 --> 0:30:33.400 as it was. I think, like what people don't realize 0:30:33.640 --> 0:30:36.840 is every NFL player is doing something in the off season, right, 0:30:36.840 --> 0:30:38.920 whether it's playing video games, whether it's doing this real 0:30:39.040 --> 0:30:41.680 estate deal, whether you're trying to have your money they 0:30:41.680 --> 0:30:43.240 made in the league make more money. I'm just doing 0:30:43.240 --> 0:30:45.240 it on a public platform that everyone can see, right. 0:30:45.320 --> 0:30:47.200 That's what people really don't understand. It is like we 0:30:47.240 --> 0:30:48.760 show up here for an hour and a half and 0:30:48.880 --> 0:30:50.800 I take a couple hours throughout my day and like 0:30:50.840 --> 0:30:54.760 tweet and do shit and fuck around, and that's really like, right, 0:30:54.920 --> 0:30:57.720 and we're just doing something months that's up, dude. 0:30:58.920 --> 0:30:59.920 If I just caught that. I know. 0:31:00.160 --> 0:31:03.240 I was hype and I could do it, but the 0:31:03.320 --> 0:31:05.040 other of us got and I'm thinking, I'm gonna snatch 0:31:05.080 --> 0:31:05.440 this thing. 0:31:06.000 --> 0:31:08.800 Oh you lying, but yeah it is, Yeah, go ahead. 0:31:08.840 --> 0:31:09.440 I was gonna say. 0:31:09.440 --> 0:31:11.320 I feel like, like if I'm a fan and I'm 0:31:11.320 --> 0:31:15.040 thinking about Taylor and chirping Taylor, like the holding calls 0:31:15.040 --> 0:31:17.200 and stuff like that, because I've I've kind of seen 0:31:17.240 --> 0:31:19.400 it happen, right like the first year it started. It 0:31:19.440 --> 0:31:22.600 was after my first year at the title. Yeah, I 0:31:22.640 --> 0:31:25.440 catch trace. But it's hilarious though. I mean, obviously I 0:31:25.480 --> 0:31:25.840 love this. 0:31:25.800 --> 0:31:28.320 So they'll blame you if Taylor does something bad. 0:31:28.880 --> 0:31:31.560 No, I mean I might get tagged and stuff. People 0:31:31.600 --> 0:31:32.480 won't like blame me. 0:31:33.440 --> 0:31:33.760 I might. 0:31:33.880 --> 0:31:35.840 They might barely say something, and then I'll make it 0:31:35.840 --> 0:31:37.720 seem like they're actually trying to blame me just to 0:31:37.760 --> 0:31:40.520 fucking have fun with it. But like, so the first 0:31:40.600 --> 0:31:42.600 time you got to see it, Taylor was coming off 0:31:42.640 --> 0:31:45.440 the ped suspension. That's when we first started the podcast, 0:31:45.440 --> 0:31:46.640 So Taylor was in a suspension. 0:31:46.720 --> 0:31:47.120 I was. 0:31:47.400 --> 0:31:49.440 I got hurt in New Orleans, so I wasn't playing 0:31:49.480 --> 0:31:51.800 either the first part of the year. So Taylor's going 0:31:51.880 --> 0:31:53.840 back and playing and he's you know, whether it's a 0:31:54.000 --> 0:31:57.920 holding penalty or jump a false art penalty or something 0:31:57.960 --> 0:31:58.240 like that. 0:31:58.280 --> 0:31:59.400 Like there's a lot of truth. 0:32:00.160 --> 0:32:02.239 It was very new is year one, right, and we 0:32:02.240 --> 0:32:06.040 were the only NFL to players doing that, and uh 0:32:06.080 --> 0:32:07.680 so there would be a lot of trips there to 0:32:07.720 --> 0:32:09.400 where like made you tight because it was our first 0:32:09.480 --> 0:32:10.040 year doing it. 0:32:10.040 --> 0:32:12.240 Even made me uncomfortable. I'm like, fuck, should we even. 0:32:12.160 --> 0:32:14.640 Be doing this right now that we've gotten used to 0:32:14.680 --> 0:32:17.800 it and it's it's been established, like Taylor proves that 0:32:17.840 --> 0:32:20.720 he does both things. Now, if you're a troll trying 0:32:20.760 --> 0:32:23.800 to get in, I won't say our heads like Taylor's 0:32:23.800 --> 0:32:25.280 head or something like that, or try to make it 0:32:25.280 --> 0:32:28.400 seem like something. You actually need to see him mess 0:32:28.480 --> 0:32:30.920 up for real to even say anything. Because now, like 0:32:31.280 --> 0:32:33.600 you know, the tier ones, like everybody out there understands 0:32:33.640 --> 0:32:36.400 the game and they understand if anybody says anything, everybody's 0:32:36.440 --> 0:32:39.120 jumping on this person, like let them know like that 0:32:39.840 --> 0:32:42.680 you're being a fucking idiot, right, do me a favor? 0:32:42.720 --> 0:32:45.280 Shut the fuck up? Type of yeah, right, If. 0:32:45.200 --> 0:32:48.280 I'm like, if I'm chirping in year one and now 0:32:48.320 --> 0:32:51.240 I've kind of cooled off because of whether we've snap 0:32:51.320 --> 0:32:53.520 back or people snap back at you. Now you actually 0:32:53.600 --> 0:32:56.080 need to see one of us fail to try and 0:32:56.520 --> 0:32:58.560 really reach in there and try to grind somebody's gears. 0:32:58.640 --> 0:33:00.400 That's how I kind of see the development over there. 0:33:00.440 --> 0:33:03.720 Right, because you have to interact with the audience or 0:33:03.760 --> 0:33:05.400 else you don't want to. 0:33:05.320 --> 0:33:05.840 Build it up. 0:33:06.920 --> 0:33:09.400 Oh you put it on, Nick Lombardi, the Titans gonna 0:33:09.440 --> 0:33:11.200 won by at least twenty eight points of Taylor One 0:33:11.240 --> 0:33:12.200 didn't have a podcast. 0:33:12.440 --> 0:33:15.160 That's It's like, you have to be active on social 0:33:15.160 --> 0:33:18.560 media to promote a podcast, so you're going to see 0:33:18.560 --> 0:33:20.920 that stuff. Otherwise I'd be like, dude, just completely ignore it, 0:33:21.280 --> 0:33:23.120 just go about your business. But you can't do that 0:33:23.160 --> 0:33:25.280 because you're trying to promote the podcast in the brand. 0:33:25.320 --> 0:33:27.280 And it's a super dramatic change for me. Like you're 0:33:27.320 --> 0:33:29.840 talking about turning it on and off like during the season. 0:33:30.480 --> 0:33:32.400 I'm kind of like not really on social media. I 0:33:32.480 --> 0:33:35.040 am on social media, but on like a normal person 0:33:35.080 --> 0:33:37.120 amount you know what I'm saying. Like right now, it's 0:33:37.160 --> 0:33:39.560 like a coble hours a day during the bars a day, 0:33:39.560 --> 0:33:41.479 and we fuck around. We treat we treated like a 0:33:41.920 --> 0:33:44.160 like a group text like We're always like chirping. All 0:33:44.160 --> 0:33:46.160 the boys are always talking and stuff like that, and 0:33:46.200 --> 0:33:48.440 it's just fun. Like the whole thing are you're just 0:33:48.440 --> 0:33:50.960 fighting chirps on this Twitter right now? I just feel 0:33:50.960 --> 0:33:51.800 like laughs in the back. 0:33:51.960 --> 0:33:54.800 What did you say, Oh, Taylor want podcast? Yeah? So like, 0:33:55.200 --> 0:33:55.760 but the thing that. 0:33:55.960 --> 0:33:58.440 Will was talking about that's super cool is like, as 0:33:58.480 --> 0:34:00.840 we've gotten going and like these year ones are kind 0:34:00.840 --> 0:34:02.920 of like just riding and dying with us, Like we 0:34:03.000 --> 0:34:05.200 have our own little like kind of squad that like 0:34:05.280 --> 0:34:06.880 just kind of loves us and we love them back, 0:34:06.880 --> 0:34:09.000 and they kind of just go for bat, like go 0:34:09.040 --> 0:34:09.560 to bat. 0:34:09.360 --> 0:34:11.919 For us, which is awesome. That's awesome. Weird. Week one 0:34:12.000 --> 0:34:12.400 was tough. 0:34:12.760 --> 0:34:15.560 Week one was Week one was hard. Taylor Jones and stuff. 0:34:16.040 --> 0:34:18.120 He's on the Cardinals. Their social media. 0:34:17.920 --> 0:34:20.960 Share social media posted a picture of Tandler Jones and 0:34:21.000 --> 0:34:23.000 it said h busting with the Boys on top of it. 0:34:23.080 --> 0:34:23.759 I was like, yeah, I go. 0:34:23.880 --> 0:34:26.319 Taylor Jones was with the boys Now the only game 0:34:26.360 --> 0:34:27.680 of my life where I was like, how do I 0:34:27.719 --> 0:34:28.759 get the fuck out of here? 0:34:28.960 --> 0:34:31.359 You know what I'm saying. Taylor came back in the game, 0:34:31.400 --> 0:34:34.440 he got booed like it was fucking up there. 0:34:34.520 --> 0:34:37.200 I'm sitting up there like, oh shits sitting with my wife. 0:34:37.400 --> 0:34:39.759 Yeah, I was it coming off the A C L. 0:34:40.200 --> 0:34:41.759 Was it just certain, like you. 0:34:41.680 --> 0:34:43.319 Know, I could go sit here and have a lot 0:34:43.360 --> 0:34:47.000 of excuses, like I think, like the strength, the conditioning, 0:34:47.320 --> 0:34:49.440 the confidence just wasn't there at that point. 0:34:49.600 --> 0:34:49.960 Yeah. 0:34:50.239 --> 0:34:52.640 And it took me, like I would say, almost half 0:34:52.640 --> 0:34:54.600 the season to kind of start feeling like okay, like 0:34:54.640 --> 0:34:57.000 I'm going back to doing my thing. But I was 0:34:57.000 --> 0:35:02.000 even telling Mike, just Mike on the podcast yesterday when 0:35:02.000 --> 0:35:04.960 he was on that you know, even at the end 0:35:04.960 --> 0:35:07.319 of the season, my leg's not as strong as it was, 0:35:07.320 --> 0:35:08.960 and I'm like, how am I blocking guys now? 0:35:09.040 --> 0:35:11.440 Like there was never like a true confidence during the season. 0:35:11.760 --> 0:35:13.240 Towards the end it got a whole lot better. 0:35:13.280 --> 0:35:15.399 But yeah, it was just it was just up and down, 0:35:15.480 --> 0:35:17.160 especially and there was a bunch of issues with the 0:35:17.239 --> 0:35:19.640 knee there. I had like a bunch of I got 0:35:19.640 --> 0:35:21.319 a toe thing at one point at the next thing, 0:35:21.360 --> 0:35:22.600 and it was just like a whole bunch of shit. 0:35:22.640 --> 0:35:24.680 I'm like, dude, like I can't, just I can't. 0:35:24.680 --> 0:35:27.040 I was the tourniquid at to stop the bleeding and 0:35:27.080 --> 0:35:31.319 so but it's been all that that's happened has made 0:35:31.360 --> 0:35:33.839 me much more present and grateful for what I'm doing now. 0:35:33.920 --> 0:35:35.440 Wow, because I wasn't allowed to. 0:35:35.880 --> 0:35:38.160 I couldn't even run till like June last year, And 0:35:38.200 --> 0:35:39.919 today I just ran a ship lo I, I damn 0:35:39.920 --> 0:35:41.719 near passed that on the football field, and I was like, 0:35:41.760 --> 0:35:42.920 this is just fucking awesome. 0:35:43.360 --> 0:35:45.880 It's just cool to do it and and like really 0:35:46.000 --> 0:35:46.360 enjoy it. 0:35:46.400 --> 0:35:49.040 And it's like the ebbs and flows of football, of 0:35:49.040 --> 0:35:51.680 anything you really do in life. Those lows make those 0:35:51.719 --> 0:35:54.279 highs feel so much better. I'm stoked. I'm stoked for 0:35:54.280 --> 0:35:56.160 this year. I think it's gonna be awesome. I think 0:35:56.160 --> 0:35:58.600 we got a squad on us. I think the Bills rip, 0:35:59.280 --> 0:36:03.520 but you know we won the last Everyone thought Rogers 0:36:03.560 --> 0:36:04.960 was going to go somewhere. I'm like, I know he 0:36:05.000 --> 0:36:05.920 ain't going to the a f C. 0:36:06.080 --> 0:36:07.880 He's not. He's not popping over there to compete with 0:36:07.880 --> 0:36:11.080 all those It's crazy. AFC's like the juggernaut right now, 0:36:11.120 --> 0:36:14.160 I know it. It's wild. It got Brady didn't jump over. 0:36:14.480 --> 0:36:16.640 West is a juggernaut. 0:36:17.960 --> 0:36:20.280 If I was playing offensive line in the a f C, West, 0:36:20.440 --> 0:36:23.719 I would just be like just trade me. You know 0:36:23.760 --> 0:36:26.120 what I mean if you're a tackle out there. I 0:36:26.160 --> 0:36:28.960 mean they've picked up so many pass rushers. 0:36:28.600 --> 0:36:31.360 Out there, Leil Mack and Joey Boss on the Chargers, 0:36:31.760 --> 0:36:35.360 you got Chandler and uh, your boy Crosby on the Raiders. 0:36:36.000 --> 0:36:39.120 You got Frank Clark and Chris Jones on the Chiefs. 0:36:39.600 --> 0:36:43.440 And then who's the last one in that division, Denver 0:36:43.480 --> 0:36:46.080 and you got Bradley Chubb over there too. Yeah, it's 0:36:46.120 --> 0:36:49.880 a fucking studs. Like, hey, boys, buckle your fucking chin 0:36:49.920 --> 0:36:50.719 straps a little tighter. 0:36:50.719 --> 0:36:52.840 Good luck on the inside, it's not. In fact, the 0:36:52.880 --> 0:36:58.760 Titans play the a FC West is here nice especially 0:36:58.760 --> 0:36:59.120 I get trade. 0:36:59.719 --> 0:37:02.719 Bill's brought in von Miller and I was stoked about that. 0:37:02.800 --> 0:37:04.400 I love Vaughn, loved him forever. 0:37:04.520 --> 0:37:06.359 He thought on Vina, where is that his crew right now? 0:37:06.880 --> 0:37:10.640 Well, I think the Bills are as good as anybody 0:37:10.640 --> 0:37:13.719 at managing players' bodies. They brought in my last year, 0:37:13.760 --> 0:37:16.319 they brought in these this. I don't think there are 0:37:16.320 --> 0:37:18.640 a couple, but a male and a female. Both their 0:37:18.680 --> 0:37:21.360 names are Joe Joe and Joe Sure. They're both from London. 0:37:21.400 --> 0:37:24.959 They worked in Premier League soccer forever managing player's body. 0:37:25.040 --> 0:37:29.160 So they came in and basically oversaw everything, and they're like, no, 0:37:29.360 --> 0:37:30.600 I think these guys any more. 0:37:30.440 --> 0:37:31.279 Rest days and all that. 0:37:31.360 --> 0:37:33.479 Like if you watch the Bills injury port throughout the week, 0:37:33.600 --> 0:37:36.280 they give more players rest days than anybody in the league. 0:37:36.440 --> 0:37:38.480 Stefan Diggs, everyone's like, man, he's having a down year 0:37:38.560 --> 0:37:41.440 last year. Well, they managed like even his catches throughout 0:37:41.480 --> 0:37:42.880 the year, like they didn't want they only wanted him 0:37:42.880 --> 0:37:45.400 get a certain amount of touches. I think this wasn't public, 0:37:45.680 --> 0:37:47.680 but I believe it was because they don't only want 0:37:47.680 --> 0:37:49.600 to get him certain amount touches. And they asked Josh 0:37:49.600 --> 0:37:51.960 Allen about it, and he like didn't say it wasn't 0:37:51.960 --> 0:37:54.319 the case, so you just assume it probably was. But 0:37:54.920 --> 0:37:57.520 like they even manage his touches. So all that being said, 0:37:57.719 --> 0:37:59.920 the Bills in nemesist this year was past rush period. 0:38:00.000 --> 0:38:02.560 If they had eight guy like eight quality defensive lineman. 0:38:02.600 --> 0:38:04.920 But as you know, like one superstar in the D line. 0:38:05.320 --> 0:38:08.360 You'd rather face a team with one superstar or sorry, 0:38:08.440 --> 0:38:11.080 eight quality guys than a team with like three scrubs 0:38:11.080 --> 0:38:13.319 out there and one superstar because you got the game 0:38:13.360 --> 0:38:15.000 plan all around him. We had no one you truly 0:38:15.000 --> 0:38:16.560 had a game plan for, and you could probably tell 0:38:16.560 --> 0:38:17.440 me if I'm wrong there. 0:38:17.520 --> 0:38:19.560 Yeah, Addison, I think Addison's got a nice little bag 0:38:19.600 --> 0:38:22.000 of tricks for sure. I think Jerry Hughes, even in 0:38:22.080 --> 0:38:24.839 year twelve a super slippery quality like, does a great 0:38:24.880 --> 0:38:27.200 job especially against the play action pass. Like he doesn't 0:38:27.760 --> 0:38:29.600 necessarily butt you up every time in the run game. 0:38:29.840 --> 0:38:31.759 So in play action when you're trying to go get him, 0:38:31.760 --> 0:38:33.839 he makes the inside move. That's a tough Yeah, that's 0:38:33.880 --> 0:38:35.360 a tough deal. So you gotta be aware of that 0:38:35.400 --> 0:38:37.360 stuff a lot. But the way you guys cycled the 0:38:37.360 --> 0:38:39.640 guys in and now, I think Jerry Hughes when we 0:38:39.680 --> 0:38:42.040 played J'aell had the most amount of snaps of the 0:38:42.080 --> 0:38:42.560 defensive line. 0:38:42.560 --> 0:38:43.840 That was fifty five percent. Wow. 0:38:43.960 --> 0:38:45.640 So and you guys just had a slew. Do I 0:38:45.640 --> 0:38:48.080 think that rookie? I think he was either a rookie 0:38:48.120 --> 0:38:48.920 lot or so. 0:38:49.440 --> 0:38:49.760 Yes. 0:38:49.880 --> 0:38:52.560 And then aj Panessa at Panessa, I think he got 0:38:52.560 --> 0:38:54.600 a whole lot better. I was watching against Miami. Now, 0:38:54.640 --> 0:38:57.359 Miami didn't have the best offensive line, right yeah, And 0:38:57.360 --> 0:38:59.800 that's you your words, not mine, But I don't agree disagree, 0:39:00.160 --> 0:39:02.239 and I think he was he was doing. 0:39:02.360 --> 0:39:03.600 When I was watching film, I was like. 0:39:03.520 --> 0:39:05.840 Holy fucked, yeah, this dude is just putting dudes in 0:39:05.840 --> 0:39:07.799 a blender right now. Like he had some moves, good, 0:39:07.880 --> 0:39:10.600 nice double arm swipe, had get bender on the edge. 0:39:10.800 --> 0:39:12.279 But I think a guy like Vaughn, you. 0:39:12.320 --> 0:39:14.799 Know, they track everything nowadays, so like his snap to 0:39:14.840 --> 0:39:16.759 get off was one of the fastest in the league, 0:39:17.560 --> 0:39:19.640 So like that's one of his strengths was just get off. 0:39:19.800 --> 0:39:20.920 Anyways, I think come. 0:39:20.800 --> 0:39:23.600 Playoff time next year, von Miller can be a difference 0:39:23.640 --> 0:39:26.280 maker to get to the quarterback. And that's what the Bills, 0:39:26.360 --> 0:39:28.560 That's what ultimately got him against the Chiefs. Patrick Mahomes 0:39:28.560 --> 0:39:30.759 could just run around back there and it just ended 0:39:30.800 --> 0:39:32.680 up being a shootout in the Bills defenses wore out 0:39:32.760 --> 0:39:35.160 and both defenses wore wore out. You got twenty five 0:39:35.200 --> 0:39:38.279 points scored in a minute and fifty seven seconds, but 0:39:38.360 --> 0:39:41.640 both defenses were completely wore out. So whoever was going 0:39:41.719 --> 0:39:43.839 to be whoever had the ball in overtime was gonna win. 0:39:43.880 --> 0:39:46.000 Both those defensive wore out. You get a pass rusher 0:39:46.000 --> 0:39:48.200 like von Miller that can change some things in the playoffs. 0:39:48.640 --> 0:39:50.759 It was interesting. You sign a thirty three year old 0:39:50.760 --> 0:39:53.600 to a six year contract, Brandon being the wizard. I'm 0:39:53.640 --> 0:39:56.479 sure you know there's something there where it's like, Okay, 0:39:56.480 --> 0:39:58.200 if he retires, then all the rest of the cap 0:39:58.280 --> 0:39:59.600 hits off the books. 0:39:59.600 --> 0:40:01.480 You know how it's structured. 0:40:01.560 --> 0:40:04.239 I'm sure because because if he's thirty nine at the 0:40:04.320 --> 0:40:06.800 end of that contract, right, it had to be either. 0:40:07.200 --> 0:40:09.040 It seemed like it was a team from the deal too, though, 0:40:09.440 --> 0:40:11.680 like looking at the numbers and where everything was signing 0:40:11.760 --> 0:40:13.439 bonus and all that against the cap. 0:40:13.520 --> 0:40:15.920 Like you said, Buddy's a wizard. Yeah, so he was 0:40:15.960 --> 0:40:18.000 out there killing it. I know. I love Brandon Bean, 0:40:18.760 --> 0:40:19.879 So is that what you think? 0:40:20.400 --> 0:40:22.759 You think if the Bills got the ball first and 0:40:22.840 --> 0:40:24.960 that overtime, Bills win that game. 0:40:24.800 --> 0:40:26.560 Over, game over, both chances. 0:40:26.760 --> 0:40:30.480 Both defenses were so gassed, like they could hardly move. 0:40:30.600 --> 0:40:33.200 Yeah, I mean both Josh Allen and Mahomes were just 0:40:33.200 --> 0:40:34.040 going back and forth. 0:40:34.160 --> 0:40:35.959 Though, you know, is there too much time on the clock? 0:40:35.960 --> 0:40:37.400 Oh and that was there too much on the clock? 0:40:37.600 --> 0:40:37.879 Just back. 0:40:38.000 --> 0:40:39.759 Yeah, But the way Mahomes came and tie the game 0:40:39.840 --> 0:40:41.520 up at the end, incredible. 0:40:41.600 --> 0:40:41.799 Yeah. 0:40:41.800 --> 0:40:44.560 But the way Josh, oh no, it was all it 0:40:44.600 --> 0:40:47.640 was all fucking insane and who had the ball less 0:40:47.760 --> 0:40:48.759 in regulation? 0:40:49.000 --> 0:40:52.880 So the Bills scored with thirteen seconds left, that's right, 0:40:53.120 --> 0:40:56.799 and they're up three and Tony Romo and they kicked 0:40:56.840 --> 0:40:58.840 it in the end zone allowed a touch back, which 0:40:59.200 --> 0:41:01.799 don't do the games coach has been fired. You know, 0:41:01.920 --> 0:41:05.640 not to speculate, but there apparently there was a miscommunication 0:41:05.840 --> 0:41:07.600 somewhere along the line. The kick as still on the 0:41:07.600 --> 0:41:10.239 team the special teams coach, isn't they kick it in 0:41:10.280 --> 0:41:12.120 the end zone so you don't waste any time there, 0:41:12.560 --> 0:41:15.319 And then they played off defense and let them just 0:41:15.360 --> 0:41:16.280 get up the field. 0:41:16.760 --> 0:41:19.000 And then man, it even. 0:41:18.840 --> 0:41:21.560 Hurts like to watch just because I love Sean McDermot 0:41:21.600 --> 0:41:22.680 and Brandon Bean so much. 0:41:22.800 --> 0:41:25.239 Like they gave Sean McDermot was there my last year. 0:41:25.400 --> 0:41:27.520 I was the first player being extended or gave a 0:41:27.520 --> 0:41:29.920 contract to in Buffalo as me, and so like. 0:41:29.920 --> 0:41:32.440 I actually like those dudes. I know you like to, 0:41:32.760 --> 0:41:35.439 but so I know how much it means to them. 0:41:35.560 --> 0:41:38.200 But to like watch the micd up situation where Travis 0:41:38.280 --> 0:41:40.759 Kelsey was like, Hey, I'm actually not gonna do it. 0:41:40.800 --> 0:41:43.120 Andy Reid just called like like look at their defense. 0:41:43.120 --> 0:41:44.800 I'm just gonna run up the seam. Just throw it 0:41:44.800 --> 0:41:44.960 to me. 0:41:45.000 --> 0:41:46.440 I'll get down and we get a field goal to 0:41:46.440 --> 0:41:50.279 tie it. So Jesus wild. Yeah, that had to hurt. 0:41:50.840 --> 0:41:52.279 It was one of the best games to watch it. Yeah, 0:41:52.280 --> 0:41:54.759 I was calling the game, and you know, I thought 0:41:54.800 --> 0:41:56.560 the Bills were out of it, and then they. 0:41:56.480 --> 0:41:58.680 Just go back and forth. In the fourth quarter, they 0:41:58.719 --> 0:42:00.799 get back in and take the lead. But you know, 0:42:00.840 --> 0:42:04.000 the city of Buffalo is just starving for a championship. 0:42:04.239 --> 0:42:06.920 And after the way Josh Allen played against the Patriots, 0:42:07.000 --> 0:42:08.719 they smoke him forty five to seven places. 0:42:08.920 --> 0:42:11.120 That was a wild dude, Josh Allen. 0:42:11.600 --> 0:42:13.799 And he's been to three playoff appearances, not like it's 0:42:13.840 --> 0:42:16.880 just won. In three playoff appearances, he has a fourteen 0:42:16.960 --> 0:42:20.040 to one touchdown interception ratio, which is like, by far 0:42:20.160 --> 0:42:23.680 the best in NFL history. Obviously, he's a students, a gamer, 0:42:24.120 --> 0:42:26.239 sounds one of my favorite people in the world, and 0:42:26.560 --> 0:42:28.200 he won me over for life. So this is two 0:42:28.280 --> 0:42:31.719 years ago, my son's birthdays in January, and so I 0:42:31.760 --> 0:42:34.319 texted Josh, like I didn't even overlap with Josh once, 0:42:34.360 --> 0:42:36.160 but we worked with the same hospital up there, our 0:42:36.160 --> 0:42:39.480 foundations all that and we've become buddies. But like, I'm 0:42:39.520 --> 0:42:41.480 the radio guy up there, like that's what he knows me. 0:42:41.520 --> 0:42:43.080 I was like, I'm the color guy in the radio, 0:42:43.480 --> 0:42:45.960 and so I texted him. I said it it's like 0:42:46.000 --> 0:42:48.120 a Monday during the playoff week. I said, Hey, for 0:42:48.160 --> 0:42:50.239 some reason, my son, he's three, he's obsessed with you. 0:42:50.400 --> 0:42:52.560 He thinks you're coming to his birthday party. If you 0:42:52.560 --> 0:42:55.319 could just shoot me a quick video, I'd appreciate it. 0:42:55.520 --> 0:42:57.880 If you ignore this text, I'll never think anything different 0:42:57.880 --> 0:43:00.160 of you. Good luck in the game this week, No 0:43:00.239 --> 0:43:03.759 worries either way. Sends me a video and then he goes, wait, wait, 0:43:03.800 --> 0:43:06.760 I can do better, sends another one that's like longer 0:43:06.800 --> 0:43:09.520 and better, and I'm like, that kid gets it, you 0:43:09.560 --> 0:43:11.520 know what I mean, Like to do something little like 0:43:11.520 --> 0:43:13.839 that for someone who could talks about him every week, 0:43:14.120 --> 0:43:17.240 controls a lot of media and opinion through my social 0:43:17.239 --> 0:43:20.160 media in Buffalo, and like that was he gets it. 0:43:20.239 --> 0:43:21.920 And he was twenty three years old at the time. 0:43:21.960 --> 0:43:24.000 Twenty four years old. 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To get credibility, you got 0:44:37.680 --> 0:44:40.080 to have like actual honesty, like you got to be objective, 0:44:40.080 --> 0:44:42.239 like you got to remove the emotion of these are 0:44:42.239 --> 0:44:45.359 my boys, but you know, you gotta do your thing. 0:44:45.600 --> 0:44:48.160 Yeah, Now, it's good that there was a ton of turnover, 0:44:48.719 --> 0:44:51.319 Like I was out a season full season and then 0:44:51.400 --> 0:44:53.919 came back eighty percent of the roster it changed, so 0:44:54.000 --> 0:44:57.319 that that helped. But like, they don't pay me enough 0:44:57.320 --> 0:44:59.399 to be hypercritical of those guys that make hard takes 0:44:59.400 --> 0:45:00.920 on them all the time. Like I'm never going to 0:45:01.000 --> 0:45:04.640 trash the guys. But it was weird because yeah, yeah, 0:45:05.360 --> 0:45:07.240 your body's got a price. Everybody's got a price. 0:45:07.200 --> 0:45:10.360 To Romo money. I'll talk wrap on anybody. Yeah, I respect, 0:45:10.480 --> 0:45:11.400 I respect that hustle. 0:45:11.520 --> 0:45:14.120 But I'm like, dude, I'm I'm up here having fun. 0:45:14.320 --> 0:45:17.600 Like we're the Bills Radio broadcast, so like I'm I'm 0:45:17.600 --> 0:45:20.360 gonna be pretty you know, I'm a Bill's homer. 0:45:20.200 --> 0:45:20.840 On this broadcasts. 0:45:20.840 --> 0:45:22.399 When I was with ESPN for those couple of years, 0:45:22.440 --> 0:45:24.759 I'm calling college games like I'm not going to tear 0:45:24.800 --> 0:45:27.560 down these college kids. Now, I'll say if something was 0:45:27.640 --> 0:45:30.200 dumb or man, he should have made that catch er, 0:45:30.280 --> 0:45:32.040 that's a bad throw. But I'm not going to like 0:45:32.120 --> 0:45:35.200 attack a kid like, oh this kid, you know, he's lazy. 0:45:35.320 --> 0:45:37.000 Watch this like I would if I was watching film. 0:45:37.040 --> 0:45:38.720 We're in sitting in the old line room watching film. 0:45:38.760 --> 0:45:40.440 Totally different than when you're calling a. 0:45:40.360 --> 0:45:42.600 Game, like you're not on everybody, Yes, exactly, like, oh, 0:45:42.600 --> 0:45:45.120 this dude's terrible, especially the old line too. That's crazy 0:45:45.120 --> 0:45:46.600 that because when you watch the d line, you're kind 0:45:46.600 --> 0:45:48.640 of respecting them watching when they do. Yeah, you watch 0:45:48.640 --> 0:45:50.120 other offensive line and you're like, what the fuck is 0:45:50.160 --> 0:45:50.719 this guy doing? 0:45:50.800 --> 0:45:52.400 Man? Right, why is he so lazy? Why is he 0:45:52.440 --> 0:45:54.560 so this? Yeah, But like I feel like. 0:45:54.560 --> 0:45:56.960 That's ever a position like for real, Well, you'll watch guys, 0:45:56.960 --> 0:45:59.520 you watch backers, and your coach will be getting off 0:45:59.560 --> 0:46:02.080 to some by and here's me thinking like, yeah, they're 0:46:02.120 --> 0:46:03.400 doing nothing like you. 0:46:03.400 --> 0:46:04.640 You custed your ass off when. 0:46:04.560 --> 0:46:07.200 I was doing something similar to this the other day. 0:46:07.400 --> 0:46:08.719 But all of a sudden, he's doing it. All of 0:46:08.760 --> 0:46:10.960 a Sudden's the greatest thing in the world, right, will 0:46:11.000 --> 0:46:13.239 probably who probably hate on like Quentin Nelson, like oh 0:46:13.280 --> 0:46:15.000 he gets this, he gets that, he gets away with this, 0:46:15.120 --> 0:46:16.600 but it's just like you know. 0:46:17.000 --> 0:46:19.799 Right, But on the transition to the media, it got 0:46:19.840 --> 0:46:21.799 me Like the first time I went to like one 0:46:21.840 --> 0:46:23.719 of like the old line dinners the night before the game, 0:46:23.840 --> 0:46:25.640 or we were on the road and they invited me 0:46:25.640 --> 0:46:27.560 out to eat with them and then they started talking 0:46:27.600 --> 0:46:29.319 and they like pulled back because they thought I might 0:46:29.360 --> 0:46:32.480 like tweet it, or I'm like whoaa, whoaah, like nothing 0:46:32.520 --> 0:46:35.480 we ever say, Like I will never compromise a conversation 0:46:35.760 --> 0:46:38.320 ever with a player coach, like even like showing that 0:46:38.360 --> 0:46:40.759 picture of Fitzpatrick, like fitz doesn't care, Like that's not 0:46:40.800 --> 0:46:43.560 like bad by any means or whatever, but like even there, 0:46:43.600 --> 0:46:46.040 I'm like like I don't ever want to like put 0:46:46.040 --> 0:46:48.120 people's business out in the streets. And like you know, 0:46:48.200 --> 0:46:50.640 I'll have coaches text me stuff before the game or 0:46:50.680 --> 0:46:52.520 I'll talk to him on the field, like unless it's 0:46:52.560 --> 0:46:54.880 like a positive thing about a player, that's like building 0:46:54.920 --> 0:46:58.160 someone up throughout the broadcast, like I'll never ever ever 0:46:58.239 --> 0:47:01.000 mention it because once you once you blow that trust, 0:47:01.040 --> 0:47:03.560 once it's over and then you're sitting at a meal 0:47:03.560 --> 0:47:05.759 and everyone's like kind of clamming up because oh he 0:47:05.800 --> 0:47:07.839 would's here and you know he's he's on the call 0:47:07.880 --> 0:47:12.319 tomorrow media and like cause pre covid, I would go 0:47:12.360 --> 0:47:14.360 to all their meals. Like mcdermot's like, dude, if you 0:47:14.400 --> 0:47:17.040 want to work out in our weight room, you like 0:47:16.360 --> 0:47:19.520 you oh yeah, He's like, man, you just make yourself 0:47:19.520 --> 0:47:21.080 at home. I mean my wife and his wife were 0:47:21.080 --> 0:47:23.480 going to games together my last year, like traveling together, 0:47:23.600 --> 0:47:26.600 and then boom career ends and so we're all still 0:47:26.680 --> 0:47:29.400 kind of buddies and all that. But like it was like, 0:47:29.440 --> 0:47:31.879 make yourself at home. So I'm like in the meal room, 0:47:32.160 --> 0:47:34.279 people are like do I sit by him? You know 0:47:34.360 --> 0:47:36.239 it's like you know he's gonna go down and do 0:47:36.280 --> 0:47:39.120 one Bill's Live after this, you know our TV show 0:47:39.120 --> 0:47:41.440 that we do, Like is he gonna say something if 0:47:41.480 --> 0:47:44.359 I I'm like never, Like, let's just get that crystal clear, 0:47:44.960 --> 0:47:46.720 Like none of that's ever gonna happen. 0:47:47.120 --> 0:47:49.400 That's awesome, that's good. That's a good characteristic to have. 0:47:49.800 --> 0:47:52.000 Yeah, but but it's like you blow the trust once 0:47:52.040 --> 0:47:56.880 and then like honestly, it's like like as a former player, 0:47:56.920 --> 0:47:58.879 like you never want that to like like you would 0:47:58.880 --> 0:48:01.440 never I would never want to turn years worth of 0:48:01.440 --> 0:48:04.560 a reputation off of like picking up a few Twitter 0:48:04.600 --> 0:48:05.400 followers or something. 0:48:05.600 --> 0:48:07.400 Right, Yeah, some guys get off on that though. I 0:48:07.400 --> 0:48:09.399 know some like just going off the media we have here. 0:48:10.040 --> 0:48:12.200 There's a lot of great people in our media, especially 0:48:12.200 --> 0:48:14.480 at local media, but there's a couple of guys that 0:48:14.680 --> 0:48:17.320 just are dying to soil somebody. 0:48:17.360 --> 0:48:19.520 I know. I just love the chaos, each. 0:48:19.560 --> 0:48:21.719 A little bit of like an angle, and then you 0:48:21.800 --> 0:48:23.960 can make it into something, making it something huge. 0:48:24.160 --> 0:48:25.120 Yeah, you know what I'm saying. 0:48:25.400 --> 0:48:27.880 Yeah, I Uh, let's get into your career a little bit, 0:48:27.920 --> 0:48:30.160 because you've had, like you had quite the career. You 0:48:30.160 --> 0:48:32.120 played nine years at one spot, which is rare. It's 0:48:32.120 --> 0:48:34.239 like we were talking about yesterday with Mike when he 0:48:34.280 --> 0:48:36.719 was on the podcast, like Taylor has been with one 0:48:36.719 --> 0:48:38.840 team his entire career, Like that's a rare thing to have. 0:48:39.440 --> 0:48:42.600 And you had just re signed an extension what was 0:48:42.600 --> 0:48:43.640 it five years. 0:48:43.960 --> 0:48:45.920 Signed a two year extension, so that would have put 0:48:45.960 --> 0:48:47.280 me through year eleven. 0:48:47.680 --> 0:48:52.719 Got you, and so I was way off, good, way off, 0:48:52.760 --> 0:48:56.040 So completely way off. But uh, you had an incredible 0:48:56.040 --> 0:48:58.120 career man, a pro boy, and you were stud Like 0:48:58.520 --> 0:49:01.200 I remember you, you did talk like you were scrappy, 0:49:01.640 --> 0:49:05.200 that you and incognito. Incognito this day between him and Roger, 0:49:05.239 --> 0:49:06.000 the heaviest hands. 0:49:05.880 --> 0:49:08.080 I've ever felt heavy hands. 0:49:08.360 --> 0:49:11.640 But you suddenly had to end your career because of 0:49:11.640 --> 0:49:13.800 a neck injury. Like tell us about that story. 0:49:13.920 --> 0:49:17.040 Yeah, So twenty seventeen, we break the longest playoff drought 0:49:17.080 --> 0:49:18.200 in all professional sports. 0:49:18.360 --> 0:49:19.080 Everyone thought we. 0:49:19.000 --> 0:49:22.120 Were tanking going into that season, and everyone thought I 0:49:22.160 --> 0:49:24.440 was a dumbass, but I signed the contract extension when 0:49:24.480 --> 0:49:26.759 everyone thinks we're tanking. But like we're sitting there, we 0:49:26.800 --> 0:49:30.520 got shady Kyle Williams, Tyrod Taylor's good quarterback, Richie's there. 0:49:30.760 --> 0:49:33.160 I'm like, man, we got some pieces like said, like 0:49:33.200 --> 0:49:36.120 this isn't a true tank, Like yes, we traded Sammy 0:49:36.160 --> 0:49:39.479 and Marcel and Ronald Darby, but like those dudes didn't 0:49:39.480 --> 0:49:42.680 fit McDermott's personality and they never were going to like 0:49:42.719 --> 0:49:46.120 those dudes's watkins. Yeah, yeah, like they're just not gonna 0:49:46.120 --> 0:49:49.680 see eye on. So anyways, sign a contract extension. Play 0:49:49.760 --> 0:49:52.440 every single snap that season, including the playoff game. One 0:49:52.480 --> 0:49:53.960 of the only players in the NFL to play every 0:49:53.960 --> 0:49:56.160 single snap that year. Because your shoe can fall off, 0:49:56.160 --> 0:49:57.560 you get heard you're beating a team too. 0:49:57.600 --> 0:49:57.759 Bad. 0:49:57.800 --> 0:49:59.560 You're losing too bad, Like you get taken out for 0:49:59.600 --> 0:50:02.040 so many diferent reasons. In the NFL, I played every 0:50:02.080 --> 0:50:04.680 single snap that year. I'm an alternate for the Pro Bowl? 0:50:05.120 --> 0:50:05.480 Was it that? 0:50:05.560 --> 0:50:08.520 After an injury too? So? Oh? 0:50:08.560 --> 0:50:11.000 I had a ton of injuries, bro curious and my 0:50:11.080 --> 0:50:12.880 rookie year, I did the Joe thaismand leg break. 0:50:13.080 --> 0:50:17.240 You're three. I did a CM compound fracture. Yeah, holy ship. 0:50:17.080 --> 0:50:20.640 Right from the field to an ambulance to surgery four days. 0:50:20.520 --> 0:50:23.440 Later, fly back to Buffalo and we and that was like, 0:50:23.680 --> 0:50:26.160 let's put a pin in that and just how that happen. Yeah, 0:50:26.200 --> 0:50:29.759 So I'm blocking for Ryan Fitzpatrick, former teammate of mine. 0:50:29.760 --> 0:50:30.880 You can find it on YouTube if you want to 0:50:30.880 --> 0:50:34.240 pull it up, might as well. But uh, former teammate 0:50:34.239 --> 0:50:36.000 of mine at Louisville Montaviou. Stand at least playing de 0:50:36.040 --> 0:50:38.120 tackle for the Jaguars, And I just got a dude 0:50:38.520 --> 0:50:40.719 locked up and just standing there with him. Dies for 0:50:40.800 --> 0:50:42.640 fitz fitz makes a miss, goes through the side of 0:50:42.640 --> 0:50:44.640 my leg. I had never been hurt in my life. 0:50:44.760 --> 0:50:46.919 And we were earlier in that game. A guy left 0:50:46.960 --> 0:50:49.279 the field, came back in. We were making fun of him, 0:50:49.480 --> 0:50:51.000 and so I was like, all right, I gotta get 0:50:51.040 --> 0:50:52.520 up because I don't want everyone to make fun of 0:50:52.520 --> 0:50:53.640 me if I come back in. 0:50:53.719 --> 0:50:58.080 Everyone's like, you didn't know that it was fucking out? No, 0:50:59.200 --> 0:51:01.080 it was. It was this so the bone was out 0:51:01.120 --> 0:51:01.799 of the skin, so. 0:51:01.719 --> 0:51:03.920 It was a community which actually were so it was 0:51:05.120 --> 0:51:09.080 it breaks in half, the skin stays out there, and 0:51:09.200 --> 0:51:11.200 that actually made me have to stay in Jacksonville longer 0:51:11.200 --> 0:51:13.879 because it creates this like huge bubble on your leg. 0:51:14.400 --> 0:51:18.560 But anyways, so here you go. Oh bro, I don't 0:51:18.560 --> 0:51:25.839 know if I really want to see this. Oh fuck yeah. 0:51:25.880 --> 0:51:27.759 So that was a good one. Think too. By the way, 0:51:27.760 --> 0:51:30.040 you're in phenomenal shape now, yeah, I appreciate it. That 0:51:30.080 --> 0:51:35.120 was about three hundred and sixteen pounds there. I was heavy. 0:51:35.560 --> 0:51:38.799 All right, that's good, yeah, snapper dude. So anyways, so 0:51:38.960 --> 0:51:40.640 do that go straight to the hospital. 0:51:40.760 --> 0:51:43.080 Wait, you're chilling holding How did you react to that? 0:51:43.080 --> 0:51:44.160 You were like, oh, I should get up. 0:51:44.640 --> 0:51:46.560 I was trying to push myself off the ground and 0:51:46.600 --> 0:51:49.600 then realized that it was pretty bad. 0:51:49.640 --> 0:51:50.640 And now how did you react to that? 0:51:50.680 --> 0:51:53.480 Were you freaking out when really hurting? 0:51:54.480 --> 0:51:57.920 Ended up really hurting? And then uh, it ended up 0:51:58.000 --> 0:51:58.959 really hurting. Yeah. 0:51:59.080 --> 0:52:01.880 Yeah, watch the YouTube video of it with the surgeons 0:52:01.880 --> 0:52:03.120 before I went into surgery. 0:52:03.320 --> 0:52:04.839 Wake up in the middle of the night, have no 0:52:04.920 --> 0:52:05.640 idea where I'm in. 0:52:05.880 --> 0:52:08.640 Where I'm at in a pitch black hospital room, and 0:52:09.440 --> 0:52:12.160 I'm like, I'm sweating my ass off, and I'm like 0:52:12.320 --> 0:52:12.840 the drugs. 0:52:12.880 --> 0:52:13.680 I just started yelling. 0:52:14.920 --> 0:52:16.560 I'm like, I literally have no idea where I am 0:52:16.680 --> 0:52:18.879 right and like I don't see like a call button 0:52:19.000 --> 0:52:19.320 or anything. 0:52:19.360 --> 0:52:21.320 So I just started yelling. Nurses come in, flip on 0:52:21.360 --> 0:52:21.680 the lights. 0:52:21.719 --> 0:52:24.120 I'm like, oh, look down, I'm in the same compression 0:52:24.160 --> 0:52:26.480 chores I played the game in and Jacksonville. I was 0:52:26.520 --> 0:52:29.040 like like, all right, this is disgusting. I was like, 0:52:29.080 --> 0:52:31.520 all right, need the ac down, need some new underwear, 0:52:31.560 --> 0:52:35.640 probably a bath where am I like like just start 0:52:35.680 --> 0:52:37.560 my rud we know, like where's my phone? 0:52:38.040 --> 0:52:39.600 Like what the hell is going on right now? 0:52:39.680 --> 0:52:42.000 Is the middle of the night and uh so, anyways, 0:52:42.040 --> 0:52:43.759 I was down there for four days and ended up 0:52:43.760 --> 0:52:45.720 making back started the first game of the season the next. 0:52:45.640 --> 0:52:48.840 Year because that was in Weeke ten, Like you fucking yeah, 0:52:49.360 --> 0:52:51.279 what is a what is like a regular recovery for that? 0:52:51.480 --> 0:52:53.640 Like it all kind of depends. 0:52:53.640 --> 0:52:57.440 So like with bones, once they healed, you're pretty confident 0:52:57.440 --> 0:52:59.520 about it. Like when I did my ACL, like I 0:52:59.520 --> 0:53:02.560 didn't feel like real confident that sucker for about eighteen months. Yeah, 0:53:02.640 --> 0:53:04.279 you know, Like I'm like, man, it just kind of 0:53:04.280 --> 0:53:07.080 feels weak, like not as flexible, not as strong, like 0:53:07.200 --> 0:53:08.160 is this thing good? 0:53:08.400 --> 0:53:08.640 You know? 0:53:08.800 --> 0:53:11.160 And like acls are so obscure. It's like this little 0:53:11.160 --> 0:53:13.120 bitty deal I can just wreck your life. So you're like, 0:53:13.200 --> 0:53:13.600 is it good? 0:53:13.640 --> 0:53:15.520 Like once that once they boy blost back there just 0:53:15.560 --> 0:53:16.680 towards ACL two days ago. 0:53:17.560 --> 0:53:18.600 That recovery sucks. 0:53:18.600 --> 0:53:22.040 But I'm sorry, but I'm my heart's going out to 0:53:22.080 --> 0:53:22.839 the boy the whole time. 0:53:22.880 --> 0:53:24.879 But like they put a rotten screws in my leg, 0:53:25.000 --> 0:53:26.279 like that sucker was good. 0:53:26.520 --> 0:53:29.759 Now it didn't hurt, It didn't hurt that bad. 0:53:29.840 --> 0:53:33.200 Now you're not weight bearing for twelve weeks, so you're 0:53:33.280 --> 0:53:36.040 completely atrophied. I went from three six I went from 0:53:36.040 --> 0:53:39.560 three sixteen to two seventy eight quick? 0:53:39.680 --> 0:53:42.600 Just how fast? How fast is that? Three weeks? 0:53:42.719 --> 0:53:45.560 Okay, hey, I lost like thirty forty pounds, not forty 0:53:45.600 --> 0:53:47.200 thirty pounds in MYICL. 0:53:47.600 --> 0:53:48.359 That's a good three week. 0:53:48.440 --> 0:53:50.880 That's a great sign for post career, but it sucks 0:53:50.960 --> 0:53:52.279 when you're in the moment because then you had to 0:53:52.320 --> 0:53:54.600 get all that and some of it's you know, waterway 0:53:54.640 --> 0:53:56.200 and all that, and you get that muscle back quick. 0:53:56.239 --> 0:53:59.520 But yeah, thirty seven pounds or something, and then they 0:53:59.520 --> 0:54:02.640 put me back in the hospital for dehydration all that. No, Yeah, 0:54:02.880 --> 0:54:05.160 that was that was That was a tough one. And 0:54:05.200 --> 0:54:07.640 then I got hurt in week ten or eleven, four 0:54:07.680 --> 0:54:11.560 straight years to start my career, did the did the 0:54:11.640 --> 0:54:14.920 Joe thisman? Second year high ankle spring, third year ACL, 0:54:15.040 --> 0:54:17.280 fourth year mcl all in week ten or eleven. 0:54:17.880 --> 0:54:19.319 Hey, at one point you I'd be like, hey, I'm 0:54:19.320 --> 0:54:21.799 not playing those going into like contract years. 0:54:21.840 --> 0:54:24.000 Well yeah, yeah, so and then I'm heading So at 0:54:24.000 --> 0:54:25.880 that time, all first rounders had to sign a five 0:54:25.960 --> 0:54:28.520 year deal, So the Bills extended me before the next season. 0:54:28.560 --> 0:54:32.600 But it was a really heavy playing time incentive because 0:54:32.600 --> 0:54:34.600 I was like, look, I want to make top three 0:54:34.640 --> 0:54:37.200 center money. I'm resigning before mac he was another first 0:54:37.239 --> 0:54:39.319 round of that year, like he's gonna jump me as 0:54:39.320 --> 0:54:40.240 soon as I sign. 0:54:40.560 --> 0:54:42.080 So like, I don't want to sign like some. 0:54:42.040 --> 0:54:45.200 Team super like low deal that has you know, no 0:54:45.320 --> 0:54:46.640 risk to it like, I'll bet on myself. 0:54:46.640 --> 0:54:48.720 That's fine. I'd deserve the money if I'm not playing anyways. 0:54:49.080 --> 0:54:50.680 And then I go on to start fifty two straight 0:54:50.719 --> 0:54:53.520 games and earn it all, which was great. And then 0:54:53.560 --> 0:54:55.880 in twenty sixteen, break my other leg a Monday night 0:54:55.880 --> 0:54:59.880 football in Seattle on the goal line going left, smart too, 0:55:00.120 --> 0:55:03.319 the defensive line slanted this way. I'm trying to get 0:55:03.360 --> 0:55:05.480 through to the second level and bear defense, and the 0:55:05.520 --> 0:55:09.000 whole whole line collapses down on me. So break your 0:55:09.000 --> 0:55:11.439 other leg, break my other leg, mon night football heading 0:55:11.440 --> 0:55:12.319 into the bye week too. 0:55:12.360 --> 0:55:16.000 So you got all these players, I don't need to 0:55:16.000 --> 0:55:18.920 see it. And then you fly back and then you 0:55:19.160 --> 0:55:20.839 last video fucked me up, and then you. 0:55:20.760 --> 0:55:23.480 Fly back from Seattle six hours to Buffalo through the night. 0:55:24.280 --> 0:55:28.319 Luckily at that time they made something legal out there 0:55:28.400 --> 0:55:29.600 that a bunch of the guys on the team were 0:55:29.600 --> 0:55:30.839 like kind of hooked me up. On the way home 0:55:30.880 --> 0:55:33.040 and Rex Ryan walked up to me, he goes, how 0:55:33.120 --> 0:55:34.480 you feeling, E. I was like a lot better than 0:55:34.520 --> 0:55:36.560 I should right now, Yeah, like a lot better than 0:55:36.560 --> 0:55:38.279 I should. He's like, all right, take me out. 0:55:38.480 --> 0:55:41.560 Yeah, yeah, I'm all good, but uh, Heroin's different. 0:55:41.640 --> 0:55:45.000 Yeah, what you're saying exactly, Yeah, yeah, the hard stuff 0:55:45.200 --> 0:55:48.279 and so break my leg. So all that being said, 0:55:48.320 --> 0:55:50.879 battle through injuries my whole career that year, play every 0:55:50.880 --> 0:55:54.160 single snap, feel great, Like, got some stingers throughout the year, 0:55:54.160 --> 0:55:56.160 but like our high school buddy's got stingers, Like everyone 0:55:56.160 --> 0:55:58.560 gets stingers in the NFL, Like, yeah, who cares hurt 0:55:58.640 --> 0:56:00.400 though it does. And when you play enter in your 0:56:00.440 --> 0:56:03.040 right hands and them like, that's a different feeling heading 0:56:03.080 --> 0:56:04.920 into a play and you're like, can't really feel the ball, 0:56:04.960 --> 0:56:05.680 but I'll get it back there. 0:56:05.719 --> 0:56:07.520 It's all good. Yeah. But uh so I got. 0:56:07.440 --> 0:56:09.480 These singers where they're like, let's get new around your neck, 0:56:09.560 --> 0:56:11.280 just make sure everything's good. And I was like, okay, 0:56:11.320 --> 0:56:14.280 well I have to get home right now. My son's 0:56:14.320 --> 0:56:17.520 about to be born. So getting a Mari drive back 0:56:17.560 --> 0:56:20.480 to Louisville. Two days later, sitting in the delivery room. 0:56:20.680 --> 0:56:22.919 My son's born. Fifty minutes after I get the phone 0:56:22.960 --> 0:56:26.480 call that my career's over even with surgery. You know, 0:56:26.719 --> 0:56:29.279 we've consulted with everybody. No one will ever pass you 0:56:29.320 --> 0:56:31.319 for a physical again, no team in the league will, 0:56:31.560 --> 0:56:34.200 And just freaking rocked my world. So I think we're 0:56:34.200 --> 0:56:36.480 trying to figure out travel plans to the Pro Bowl 0:56:36.640 --> 0:56:40.239 because there was two AFC centers, both in the playoffs 0:56:40.280 --> 0:56:43.799 still that were Pro Bowlers, so like there was like 0:56:43.840 --> 0:56:46.640 a ninety percent chance I was going to pop in there, 0:56:46.719 --> 0:56:49.160 and they might not even want to play anyways, So 0:56:49.480 --> 0:56:51.440 we're trying to figure out how we're gonna get a 0:56:51.600 --> 0:56:53.120 two week old to the Pro Bowl. 0:56:53.239 --> 0:56:55.400 And it's said, my career is over, and like, and 0:56:55.480 --> 0:56:57.759 you just got that MRI just because you have you 0:56:57.800 --> 0:56:58.879 had stinger hits. Yeah. 0:56:58.920 --> 0:57:00.200 I was the only player on the team that late 0:57:00.200 --> 0:57:02.560 every single snap that year. Yeah, so like so I 0:57:02.600 --> 0:57:06.000 know it and no one else does. And it was 0:57:06.200 --> 0:57:08.560 well like our family knew, but like me and my 0:57:08.600 --> 0:57:10.320 wife knew, but like no one else. And my wife's 0:57:10.320 --> 0:57:13.000 crying in the hospital bed after I told her, and 0:57:12.760 --> 0:57:15.719 not like mad, just like sad and emotional and I 0:57:15.920 --> 0:57:17.720 have a baby, you know, you guys know the emotions 0:57:17.720 --> 0:57:17.920 of that. 0:57:18.120 --> 0:57:20.080 Yeah, the nurse imagine telling my wife. She's in the 0:57:20.080 --> 0:57:20.880 middle of trying to. 0:57:20.840 --> 0:57:23.040 Like, well, we knew went through and you're like, hey, 0:57:23.080 --> 0:57:25.360 but I'm also we got to find a new job 0:57:25.480 --> 0:57:26.400 because it wears over. 0:57:26.600 --> 0:57:26.800 Yeah. 0:57:26.840 --> 0:57:28.840 They were like, hey, we're gonna call we have some 0:57:29.000 --> 0:57:31.080 serious news. So we knew something, so like she was 0:57:31.080 --> 0:57:32.840 like telling me, I want to know. So the nurse 0:57:32.880 --> 0:57:35.360 comes in and was like, baby, it's not going to 0:57:35.440 --> 0:57:35.960 hurt that bad. 0:57:36.000 --> 0:57:38.240 I promise. My wife's like, it's not about the baby, 0:57:38.360 --> 0:57:41.200 like we exactly. 0:57:41.720 --> 0:57:45.800 So anyway, so that that was like a pretty wild 0:57:45.880 --> 0:57:49.400 four or five months because the Bills wouldn't cut me 0:57:49.480 --> 0:57:51.720 because as soon as they cut me, my full cap 0:57:51.800 --> 0:57:53.480 hit was gonna come in. Like I was the second 0:57:53.520 --> 0:57:55.480 highest paid center in the league my first year out 0:57:55.480 --> 0:57:57.920 of the league because I just had signed that extension 0:57:58.280 --> 0:58:00.400 and so as soon as they cut me, all that 0:58:00.480 --> 0:58:03.040 hits and then they can't go sign free agents. Right, well, 0:58:03.080 --> 0:58:05.880 if i go get a job or anything, then I'm retired. 0:58:06.000 --> 0:58:09.000 If I'm retired, I don't get all that injury guarantee. 0:58:09.320 --> 0:58:11.880 And so literally I'm just like living in obscurity. I'm 0:58:11.960 --> 0:58:14.120 losing weight, but I'm like not trying to see anybody 0:58:14.240 --> 0:58:16.520 or tell anybody, Like I'm not on social media much 0:58:16.800 --> 0:58:19.520 because I'm just trying to be like, hey, as soon 0:58:19.520 --> 0:58:21.400 as they cut me, I'll come back and I'll try 0:58:21.440 --> 0:58:23.160 and get a broadcast gig. That's part of the reason 0:58:23.160 --> 0:58:25.280 I didn't have a media gig my first year out 0:58:25.600 --> 0:58:28.560 was because I couldn't even take a job. Really, it 0:58:28.640 --> 0:58:31.120 didn't cut me till June, June first, I guess May 0:58:31.120 --> 0:58:33.840 thirty first, June first, and so I'm just sitting there 0:58:33.840 --> 0:58:36.720 in limbo. Like I showed up at Jim Kelly's golf tournament, 0:58:37.000 --> 0:58:39.280 which was in May. That was the first time, like 0:58:39.360 --> 0:58:42.080 anybody had seen me in five months, and I'm like 0:58:42.440 --> 0:58:46.280 fifty five pounds down. Everyone's like, oh, you're done. 0:58:46.320 --> 0:58:46.600 Done. 0:58:46.680 --> 0:58:48.439 I'm like, yeah, I was never athletic enough to play 0:58:48.440 --> 0:58:49.880 tight end. I couldn't even start in my high school 0:58:49.880 --> 0:58:51.920 at tight end. So yeah, I'm really done. 0:58:52.000 --> 0:58:56.040 Oh my god, that's crazy. Ye know, that is fucking emostly, like, 0:58:56.080 --> 0:58:57.680 what was that process like for you, dealing with that. 0:58:57.560 --> 0:59:00.760 You're a pro bowler, like everyone's speculating and you're about 0:59:00.760 --> 0:59:02.080 to go like you're about to go to another one. 0:59:02.160 --> 0:59:03.560 Yeah. Everyone. I loved ball. 0:59:04.080 --> 0:59:05.920 Like that's another thing too, Like there's a lot of 0:59:06.000 --> 0:59:08.120 dudes in the league that don't love ball like I 0:59:08.200 --> 0:59:10.320 loved it, Like I loved watching film, I loved going 0:59:10.360 --> 0:59:13.200 to the stadium, I love I loved practice like I 0:59:13.240 --> 0:59:16.440 loved it all and so for me, like it was 0:59:16.480 --> 0:59:19.439 a big hit, and you know, honestly and at that time, 0:59:19.520 --> 0:59:21.800 like I had, you know, luckily, I have a great 0:59:21.800 --> 0:59:24.760 family and buddies in this foundation, my faith, and like 0:59:25.000 --> 0:59:27.280 so early on you're like, yeah, God, I know you 0:59:27.320 --> 0:59:29.240 have great plans for me, Like I can't wait to 0:59:29.280 --> 0:59:30.959 see what you do next. And then like four months 0:59:31.000 --> 0:59:33.480 in and you're just kind of like hanging out, losing weight. 0:59:33.600 --> 0:59:36.080 You know, you're like, Okay, this kind of sucks now. 0:59:36.120 --> 0:59:37.960 And then when I saw pictures of them back at 0:59:38.000 --> 0:59:40.400 OTAs because I used to love OTA's, like I love 0:59:40.440 --> 0:59:43.240 to play golf. We'd go up there and you know, 0:59:43.280 --> 0:59:45.160 you work out till noon and then it's like hang 0:59:45.200 --> 0:59:47.520 out with the boys all afternoon, fly home Thursdays, see 0:59:47.560 --> 0:59:48.240 the family again. 0:59:48.320 --> 0:59:49.800 Like OTA's was a ton of fun. 0:59:49.880 --> 0:59:51.760 Yeah, I see them all those Bota's, I was like, oh, 0:59:51.760 --> 0:59:53.680 it's real, Like yeah, well. 0:59:53.520 --> 0:59:56.920 I'm not heading back there anymore. So it sucked it, 0:59:57.000 --> 1:00:00.080 truly did. I went through the first game that the Bills, 1:00:00.120 --> 1:00:01.760 like the first game that I wasn't in, you know, 1:00:02.040 --> 1:00:04.400 in a decade, and they played APT Baltimore and they 1:00:04.440 --> 1:00:06.600 lost like forty seven to three, it's pouring down rain. 1:00:06.640 --> 1:00:08.360 We're up in the club just crushing beers, me and 1:00:08.360 --> 1:00:11.320 a few of my boys, and like everyone's like, is this, 1:00:11.520 --> 1:00:13.680 like do you feel better now? Is like, honestly no, 1:00:14.160 --> 1:00:16.080 because I'd rather just be in that locker room piste 1:00:16.080 --> 1:00:18.919 off right now than sitting here drinking beers with you guys, 1:00:19.000 --> 1:00:21.080 you know what I mean, Like, yes, these games suck, 1:00:21.160 --> 1:00:24.040 but like, like I don't ever get to like even 1:00:24.120 --> 1:00:25.880 just feel that in the locker room again. And that's 1:00:26.040 --> 1:00:28.160 that's part of the thing about media too, Like when 1:00:28.160 --> 1:00:30.280 you're calling a game, especially calling college games. It's part 1:00:30.280 --> 1:00:32.360 of the reason I moved on from calling those college games, 1:00:32.360 --> 1:00:34.880 like you don't care who wins, and like you have 1:00:34.960 --> 1:00:37.240 no emotion tied to it at all. And I was 1:00:37.240 --> 1:00:39.720 calling mainly ACC games. Not a lot of good ball 1:00:39.720 --> 1:00:41.520 in the ACC going right now, so you don't even 1:00:41.520 --> 1:00:43.320 get that like the great You don't get like the 1:00:43.360 --> 1:00:45.440 great atmosphere either. And I was like, man, this is 1:00:45.480 --> 1:00:47.520 like just not quite doing it for me right now. 1:00:47.560 --> 1:00:49.760 Like I'd rather be in either one of those locker rooms, 1:00:50.680 --> 1:00:52.280 you know, win or lose. I'd rather be in either 1:00:52.320 --> 1:00:54.040 one of those locker rooms than stay on this field 1:00:54.080 --> 1:00:55.680 or in this booth calling this game right now. 1:00:56.000 --> 1:00:58.000 But I also don't want to do the coaching hours. 1:00:58.000 --> 1:00:59.480 As you guys know, it's hard to be a dad 1:00:59.480 --> 1:01:02.480 and a husband and this gotta be a little different now, 1:01:02.600 --> 1:01:03.360 no doubt about it. 1:01:03.720 --> 1:01:04.760 Yeah, what was? So? 1:01:04.800 --> 1:01:06.360 What was would it end up being like what the 1:01:06.400 --> 1:01:08.320 doctors told you happened to your neck? What would made 1:01:08.360 --> 1:01:09.360 it like career ending? 1:01:09.440 --> 1:01:09.680 Yeah? 1:01:09.680 --> 1:01:11.960 So I had disc and bones sitting into my spinal 1:01:12.000 --> 1:01:14.400 cord and it was at C two C three, So 1:01:14.560 --> 1:01:16.960 like if it was lower at four or five like 1:01:17.000 --> 1:01:19.160 Peyton Manning had next surgery and came back and played 1:01:19.200 --> 1:01:21.640 his was lower, it's more stable at C two C three. 1:01:22.040 --> 1:01:24.200 Any surgery up there, they'll just end your career because 1:01:24.200 --> 1:01:28.120 it's so unstable and you lose everything below in the 1:01:28.120 --> 1:01:31.760 spinal cord whatever, like you injure, it damages everything down. 1:01:31.800 --> 1:01:35.960 So that's paraplegia, loss of respiratory function, and so it's 1:01:35.960 --> 1:01:39.240 a real shit. Yeah, Like that's not like lose feeling 1:01:39.240 --> 1:01:41.880 in your legs, you know, which would be awful. But yeah, 1:01:41.920 --> 1:01:44.280 but they were like that was the Ryan Shazier had 1:01:44.280 --> 1:01:45.680 his deal where he was face down on the turf 1:01:45.720 --> 1:01:47.680 and They're like, we have no idea. One of those 1:01:47.760 --> 1:01:50.120 hits him put you face down the turf. But you're 1:01:50.160 --> 1:01:50.640 just lucky. 1:01:50.880 --> 1:01:53.280 You're lucky, saying because they just saw from an MRI. 1:01:53.520 --> 1:01:55.760 It's like kind of like, oh, thank god we got 1:01:55.760 --> 1:01:57.720 an MRI because you would have continued playing it. 1:01:57.760 --> 1:01:59.680 You weren't feeling anything wrong with you, right, I know it. 1:01:59.760 --> 1:02:02.120 Yeah, everyone's like, man, you should feel so fortunate that 1:02:02.440 --> 1:02:04.479 you got out when you did. And look, I would 1:02:04.480 --> 1:02:06.439 have played to the wheels fell off and I get 1:02:06.440 --> 1:02:08.800 to play golf. I can still work out, I play 1:02:08.880 --> 1:02:10.439 with my kids like I love balls. 1:02:10.480 --> 1:02:11.720 I would have played to the wheels. 1:02:11.400 --> 1:02:14.680 Fell off, just ignorant, and every year would have been, hey, 1:02:14.680 --> 1:02:15.600 we got to go win the super Bowl. 1:02:15.600 --> 1:02:16.800 Then we win to super Bowl. He was like, let's 1:02:16.800 --> 1:02:18.040 go win another one. That was awesome. 1:02:18.120 --> 1:02:21.440 Yeah, So I would have just kept playing. So I 1:02:21.520 --> 1:02:24.480 believe God got me out when he wanted to. And honestly, 1:02:24.520 --> 1:02:26.960 that first four or five months sucked. It did, but 1:02:27.120 --> 1:02:29.000 I swear each year's gotten better than the last. I 1:02:29.040 --> 1:02:30.880 got a podcast, What's Next with Eric Wood. I have 1:02:30.960 --> 1:02:33.000 a ton of fun doing that, get to do stuff 1:02:33.040 --> 1:02:35.440 like this. We travel a bunch, work hard, in the 1:02:35.440 --> 1:02:38.080 falls calling games and whatnot, and then tone it back 1:02:38.120 --> 1:02:39.600 and travel litle bit in the off season. Get to 1:02:39.600 --> 1:02:41.000 take my kids to school, pick them up when I 1:02:41.040 --> 1:02:43.240 want to, and I'm not golfing or that's all on 1:02:43.280 --> 1:02:43.680 some stuff. 1:02:43.720 --> 1:02:46.320 Got some investments going. So it's been a ton of fun. 1:02:46.760 --> 1:02:49.560 But man, that that transition's real, and for guys to 1:02:49.560 --> 1:02:51.880 transition out in the NFL to have other guys that 1:02:51.960 --> 1:02:55.200 can talk to, like, you know, we got buddies that 1:02:55.200 --> 1:02:57.720 are going, you know, through transitions all the time from 1:02:57.760 --> 1:02:58.200 the league. 1:02:58.280 --> 1:03:00.400 Like it sucks, but no one. 1:03:00.720 --> 1:03:02.040 But the thing about it is you can't talk to 1:03:02.040 --> 1:03:04.280 your buddies about it because they're like, look, you have 1:03:04.360 --> 1:03:05.960 more money than you know what to do with, right, 1:03:06.320 --> 1:03:09.200 and you get to stay home now, Like what's wrong 1:03:09.240 --> 1:03:09.600 with that? 1:03:09.720 --> 1:03:12.400 Like like some of your buddies are still like they 1:03:12.400 --> 1:03:14.960 don't want to hear most of every buddy, You're right, 1:03:14.960 --> 1:03:15.600 they don't care to hear it. 1:03:15.640 --> 1:03:16.240 They don't want to hear it. 1:03:16.320 --> 1:03:18.760 Yeah, like they don't Like your wife doesn't have anyone 1:03:18.760 --> 1:03:21.560 to talk to because you know, my wife leslie like 1:03:21.560 --> 1:03:23.439 her girlfriends like they don't want to hear her talk 1:03:23.440 --> 1:03:25.720 about like well, you know, and Eric's at home helping 1:03:25.720 --> 1:03:27.360 out all the time now, and you. 1:03:27.320 --> 1:03:30.120 Know, I think we're gonna go travel again. Yeah, yeah, 1:03:30.240 --> 1:03:34.720 golfing and just can't. But it's interesting again, yeah, you. 1:03:34.880 --> 1:03:36.520 Like they don't want to hear that, like, but like 1:03:36.560 --> 1:03:38.040 it's hard on the wife too. Like we had a 1:03:38.040 --> 1:03:40.160 house in Buffalo, we had family, and you know, we 1:03:40.200 --> 1:03:42.280 had friends that felt like family up there. 1:03:42.400 --> 1:03:44.520 Yeah, when you're in it, when you got the camaraderie 1:03:44.560 --> 1:03:46.240 with the boys, and like you said, it was nothing better. 1:03:46.240 --> 1:03:49.440 I remember like in Washington, did you know Corey lichtenstagger 1:03:49.440 --> 1:03:52.680 at all? I m But we just had a group 1:03:52.680 --> 1:03:55.000 of guys where we're it's the same thing. We're golfing 1:03:55.080 --> 1:03:57.800 after practice every day, like when you're in it, because 1:03:57.800 --> 1:04:00.600 again you were there nine years. Like right, it's gotta 1:04:00.760 --> 1:04:03.040 just it's gotta suck. And I was talking one time 1:04:03.080 --> 1:04:05.520 with my buddy a mereb Doula. He's had a podcast 1:04:05.560 --> 1:04:08.280 on here, but uh yeah, monster wrench. 1:04:08.840 --> 1:04:13.960 But he's the president, the biggest of whoever had the 1:04:13.960 --> 1:04:15.640 biggest he's the no. 1:04:15.680 --> 1:04:18.200 But that's not gonna happen when somebody asks. He's saw 1:04:18.200 --> 1:04:19.920 always something one that I'll never get out of my 1:04:19.960 --> 1:04:21.800 head out of his mouth. 1:04:21.800 --> 1:04:22.440 That's crazy. 1:04:24.720 --> 1:04:26.720 But one time we were talking and it's kind of 1:04:26.760 --> 1:04:29.080 like we get to be on this roller coaster right 1:04:29.120 --> 1:04:31.920 with football, Like we live in such a we're so 1:04:32.080 --> 1:04:35.959 fortunate that we got to legitimately live our dream as 1:04:36.000 --> 1:04:38.760 a kid, Like you're playing mad and you're creating yourself 1:04:38.800 --> 1:04:42.120 and you just daydream about playing football, like we're pretending 1:04:42.160 --> 1:04:44.240 to be guys in the backyard when you're playing catch 1:04:44.280 --> 1:04:46.360 with your dad and stuff, and you're just like you're 1:04:46.360 --> 1:04:48.240 obsessed with this dream of playing in the NFL. And 1:04:48.400 --> 1:04:51.760 we get to do that, like the one percent one percent, 1:04:51.840 --> 1:04:53.600 Like we are so lucky we get to do that 1:04:53.960 --> 1:04:55.320 at the same time we're riding. 1:04:55.040 --> 1:04:55.720 This roller coaster. 1:04:55.760 --> 1:04:58.440 You go to college, you're on scholarship, like you have 1:04:58.480 --> 1:05:00.600 structure around. You go to the NFL, you lose a 1:05:00.600 --> 1:05:02.800 little bit of structure, but you're making money and you're 1:05:02.880 --> 1:05:06.360 just you're living a high. And then when you're when 1:05:06.400 --> 1:05:08.680 you're done playing football, and I would assume it was 1:05:08.720 --> 1:05:10.960 this way for you, but you get the rug pullout 1:05:11.000 --> 1:05:13.480 from under you without even thinking twice, like having the 1:05:13.520 --> 1:05:16.400 option right, and it's like, I feel like what football 1:05:16.400 --> 1:05:18.600 players go through are athletes, are people? That get to 1:05:18.680 --> 1:05:20.800 ride a high like that, because that's what it is, 1:05:20.840 --> 1:05:22.600 like we live in a fantasy world again. 1:05:22.680 --> 1:05:25.160 It's like, what's the next roller coaster? I'm trying to 1:05:25.160 --> 1:05:25.440 get on? 1:05:25.480 --> 1:05:27.400 And you go and call games right, and there's not 1:05:27.440 --> 1:05:29.360 a lot of people in the stadium, Like it's just 1:05:29.400 --> 1:05:31.600 not getting your rock, Like it's not You're like, this 1:05:31.640 --> 1:05:33.040 is not what I want to be doing this, This 1:05:33.160 --> 1:05:35.640 isn't doing it for me. I feel like we struggle 1:05:35.800 --> 1:05:38.280 trying to figure out, like what that next? I guess 1:05:38.360 --> 1:05:40.120 highest so to speaker, like what's going to feel like 1:05:40.120 --> 1:05:41.240 I have purpose doing this? 1:05:41.360 --> 1:05:41.720 No doubt. 1:05:41.800 --> 1:05:45.040 I'm literally I completed the book. It'll release this fault. 1:05:45.040 --> 1:05:46.800 It's called Tackle What's Next. So it's a playoff of 1:05:46.800 --> 1:05:48.880 my podcast. So it's like a bunch of podcast guests 1:05:48.880 --> 1:05:51.120 who's poured into me because when I started the podcast, 1:05:51.200 --> 1:05:53.760 I didn't have any broadcast gigs or anything going. I 1:05:53.800 --> 1:05:55.440 was like, ma, now I'm supped to start creating some content, 1:05:55.520 --> 1:05:57.840 have some good conversations. If you ask my wife what 1:05:57.880 --> 1:05:59.400 I like to do most in life, you'd be like 1:05:59.400 --> 1:06:01.400 sit around and beer and talk to your buddies and 1:06:01.400 --> 1:06:03.080 be like, yeah, I get to do you know, get 1:06:03.120 --> 1:06:04.760 to make a little money and do that, Like, yeah, 1:06:04.800 --> 1:06:08.400 that sounds awesome exactly, like having conversations like this is 1:06:08.440 --> 1:06:10.800 like what I like to do and so but it's 1:06:10.840 --> 1:06:13.200 a lot about that, like so, yes, you got to 1:06:13.240 --> 1:06:16.480 live out your dream. But like except that that was 1:06:16.520 --> 1:06:20.000 awesome and it was incredible and you're you're not gonna 1:06:20.000 --> 1:06:20.560 have that again. 1:06:20.800 --> 1:06:22.760 But man, you can recreate. 1:06:22.560 --> 1:06:24.640 Like my like the tagline of my podcast, how do 1:06:24.680 --> 1:06:25.840 you make your what's next in life? 1:06:25.880 --> 1:06:26.560 Your best? Yet? 1:06:26.680 --> 1:06:28.800 So like, go attack that next chapter of life, no 1:06:28.840 --> 1:06:30.640 matter what it is. And so many people are in 1:06:30.680 --> 1:06:33.120 a season of transition right now, whether it's from COVID, 1:06:33.400 --> 1:06:36.600 whether it's work, and like you can be in a 1:06:36.640 --> 1:06:38.680 transition life just because you say, like, man, I want 1:06:38.680 --> 1:06:41.160 to be better tomorrow, like and not even like putting 1:06:41.160 --> 1:06:43.520 too much pressure on yourself, like man, like I love 1:06:43.560 --> 1:06:45.680 my boy Ben Newman, but like I'm not gonna do 1:06:45.720 --> 1:06:47.520 seventy five hard over and over and over, like that's 1:06:47.520 --> 1:06:50.080 not how I'm wired. But like, man, tomorrow I'm gonna 1:06:50.080 --> 1:06:52.280 be a better dad, husband. You know, I'm gonna work 1:06:52.280 --> 1:06:54.960 my tail off. I'm gonna you know, go pursue some 1:06:55.000 --> 1:06:57.840 business stuff cause that fulfills some competition, am I end, 1:06:58.120 --> 1:07:01.360 but like yeah, it's real. And then creating a schedule 1:07:01.360 --> 1:07:03.040 for yourself is like one of the biggest things when 1:07:03.040 --> 1:07:05.680 you transition out because man, your whole even in the 1:07:05.680 --> 1:07:07.520 off season, it's like, Okay, we're gonna work out, we're 1:07:07.520 --> 1:07:10.000 gonna do this, and like it's all on a schedule 1:07:10.160 --> 1:07:11.160 and our whole lives. 1:07:11.200 --> 1:07:13.000 Like it's what you go to school, your whole life. 1:07:13.040 --> 1:07:14.640 Then you go to college and you've managed all that. 1:07:15.720 --> 1:07:18.000 Then all football players, no doubt, right, and then all 1:07:18.040 --> 1:07:19.640 of a sudden you have no schedule at all. So 1:07:19.680 --> 1:07:22.400 like getting in a routine daily that like serves you, 1:07:22.560 --> 1:07:25.320 that's gonna like put some healthy habits in your life. 1:07:25.560 --> 1:07:27.640 It's great, but you talked and you hit it on 1:07:27.680 --> 1:07:29.960 the head. When people are trying to recreate that, that 1:07:30.120 --> 1:07:32.160 how you get from football. That's where you see a 1:07:32.200 --> 1:07:34.640 lot of people get into trouble business wise. It's like, man, 1:07:34.720 --> 1:07:36.520 I'm gonna go all in on this real estate deal. 1:07:36.560 --> 1:07:38.880 I'm gonna go all in on this. It's like whoa, whoa, whoa. 1:07:39.160 --> 1:07:41.880 Like my buddy's been doing real estate for thirty years 1:07:42.120 --> 1:07:45.360 and now you're like you're scouring deals that they've passed 1:07:45.400 --> 1:07:48.000 up for like five months, Like you think that you think. 1:07:47.920 --> 1:07:49.520 You're gonna hit a home run on this, like right, 1:07:49.560 --> 1:07:50.360 oh no, no, chill. 1:07:50.920 --> 1:07:54.000 But it's uh, it's been fun to hop into like 1:07:54.040 --> 1:07:57.880 this podcast world learn from so many people, and you know, 1:07:58.000 --> 1:08:01.800 part of my passion now is helping people transition and 1:08:01.800 --> 1:08:04.680 and I just feel like as I learned on the podcast, 1:08:04.680 --> 1:08:06.680 people are learning with me and it's been a ton 1:08:06.680 --> 1:08:07.000 of fun. 1:08:07.520 --> 1:08:10.520 That's awesome. When'd you start it? I started in twenty nineteen. 1:08:10.960 --> 1:08:13.200 So we're like one hundred and fifty something, one hundred 1:08:13.240 --> 1:08:16.240 and sixty episodes in one a week. Sometimes we do two, 1:08:16.280 --> 1:08:18.679 sometimes I'll do a solo one and those do pretty 1:08:18.680 --> 1:08:19.080 good ratings. 1:08:19.120 --> 1:08:21.400 And you can like boost the weekly listens. 1:08:21.000 --> 1:08:22.920 Like if you're trying to get a decent sponsor, you're like, oh, yeah, 1:08:23.040 --> 1:08:24.920 last week we had you know X amount of listens. 1:08:24.920 --> 1:08:26.680 It's like, well, we released too that week, but it's 1:08:26.720 --> 1:08:27.400 all good. Yeah. 1:08:28.040 --> 1:08:31.280 And then for Melth like for me, like I like 1:08:31.360 --> 1:08:35.160 conversations that are chill like this, I like conversations with 1:08:35.800 --> 1:08:38.000 pastor CEOs, Like I just like to learn from people 1:08:38.000 --> 1:08:39.600 and pick their brains. But if I go back to 1:08:39.640 --> 1:08:41.960 the bills. Well, like, if I, like I have Brandon 1:08:42.000 --> 1:08:44.000 bean on once a year, that's gonna be one of 1:08:44.040 --> 1:08:47.559 our biggest episodes. Josh Allen Sean McDermott Like, but like, 1:08:47.840 --> 1:08:49.800 those conversations don't really do a whole lot for me. 1:08:49.920 --> 1:08:52.280 You know, they're fun. I love those dudes, but like, 1:08:52.400 --> 1:08:55.200 you know, they're necessary for like the Yeah, yeah. 1:08:54.960 --> 1:08:57.360 Yeah, I'll be like yeah, like I'll get a weekly 1:08:57.439 --> 1:08:59.160 KPI report and I'm yeah, it's time to go back 1:08:59.160 --> 1:08:59.559 to the bills. 1:08:59.600 --> 1:09:02.320 Well again, yea yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no doubt. 1:09:02.439 --> 1:09:04.920 We are taking a break from this episode to shout 1:09:04.960 --> 1:09:08.799 out this is awesome. Shout out NASCAR. No for shouts 1:09:08.840 --> 1:09:12.000 in NASCAR til Junior Flex. 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Be sure to 1:10:02.600 --> 1:10:05.759 tune in to the NASCAR Cup Series from Nashville Super 1:10:05.760 --> 1:10:09.080 Speedway this Sunday, June twenty six at five o'clock pm 1:10:09.120 --> 1:10:10.320 Eastern on NBC. 1:10:10.479 --> 1:10:13.680 That's that's uh, that's uh. What is that? 1:10:13.720 --> 1:10:17.960 Three o'clock Central time, four o'clock Central time, four o'clock 1:10:18.000 --> 1:10:18.519 Central time. 1:10:18.560 --> 1:10:18.880 Again. 1:10:19.560 --> 1:10:22.160 The NASCAR Cup Series is Sunday, June twenty six at 1:10:22.200 --> 1:10:25.759 five pm Eastern, four pm Central on NBC. 1:10:26.160 --> 1:10:28.040 Now back to the episode. 1:10:28.640 --> 1:10:31.240 Going backwards a little bit, like, what are your thoughts 1:10:31.240 --> 1:10:35.920 on the Bills offensive line this year? Going into this year, 1:10:35.960 --> 1:10:38.280 Going into this year, I think there'll be solid and 1:10:38.360 --> 1:10:40.960 like Josh who's your best who's the best? Office liven there? 1:10:40.920 --> 1:10:42.759 Sean Dawkins left tackle. He's solid. 1:10:42.960 --> 1:10:44.800 You know, he's a little undersized six to three. He 1:10:44.840 --> 1:10:46.679 came in my rookie his real wind. 1:10:47.479 --> 1:10:50.280 Yeah did you hear about that? For Taylor one he did. 1:10:50.439 --> 1:10:52.439 I got knocked out of the Bills game, like oh 1:10:52.520 --> 1:10:54.160 yeah yeah, And they were like at the end of 1:10:54.160 --> 1:10:56.200 the game like their probably the Bills proble left tackle 1:10:56.240 --> 1:10:57.560 tailor the one wasn't in. If they he would have 1:10:57.560 --> 1:11:00.040 been there, they would have got that right, Like I 1:11:00.080 --> 1:11:01.160 don't play for that team, boss. 1:11:01.439 --> 1:11:04.080 Yeah. Yeah, And this guy is pretty good. He was 1:11:04.120 --> 1:11:06.200 in A decent player for sure. Yeah. 1:11:06.240 --> 1:11:08.440 He's been with a Pro Bowl a couple of times. Yeah, 1:11:08.479 --> 1:11:10.599 but his rookie year was my last year. So that's 1:11:10.640 --> 1:11:12.840 like my little brother. And Deon doesn't drink, so like 1:11:12.880 --> 1:11:15.519 he was always my d d and like he would 1:11:15.560 --> 1:11:17.280 come over to the house and you know, all the 1:11:17.280 --> 1:11:19.320 holidays he's at my house, so like that's my like 1:11:19.320 --> 1:11:20.000 my little brother. 1:11:20.080 --> 1:11:21.040 I love that dude. 1:11:21.200 --> 1:11:23.200 He's like a kind of a throwback too, like the 1:11:23.200 --> 1:11:24.960 Bill Shraft in the second round at the Temple. He's 1:11:25.000 --> 1:11:27.679 kind of got this Odell Beckham haircut. And he's real 1:11:27.720 --> 1:11:30.080 active on social media, and he's goofy with the way 1:11:30.080 --> 1:11:32.000 he talks, and you know, he calls himself the Snowman 1:11:32.080 --> 1:11:33.400 and so. 1:11:33.320 --> 1:11:35.720 Like at first, I was like, you gotta cocaine thing. 1:11:35.880 --> 1:11:36.559 I don't even know. 1:11:36.760 --> 1:11:38.960 Honestly, I don't even know. I don't know if he's 1:11:38.960 --> 1:11:40.840 got like a lisp. And it was like, yeah, he's 1:11:40.840 --> 1:11:43.559 trying to say snow. I honestly don't know. We've been 1:11:44.280 --> 1:11:46.680 we've been friends for six years or five years now, 1:11:46.680 --> 1:11:51.439 and I don't even know. But so like that's my guy, 1:11:51.720 --> 1:11:54.120 you know. But he comes in and he's like a 1:11:54.200 --> 1:11:57.120 throwback O Lineman. I'm like, waa wait this dude with 1:11:57.200 --> 1:12:01.599 this dyed blonde, curly little thing on his head, like 1:12:01.680 --> 1:12:03.840 looking trying to be like Odell Beckham. 1:12:03.600 --> 1:12:07.320 You know, a super like me guy. Yeah, where is 1:12:07.360 --> 1:12:07.839 the outfit? 1:12:08.040 --> 1:12:10.559 Yeah? That on the body? He comes in. He's throwing 1:12:10.560 --> 1:12:11.080 people around. 1:12:11.160 --> 1:12:14.559 He's physical, like physical physical, And Cordy Glenn was playing 1:12:14.600 --> 1:12:17.400 games with an ankle injury and this and that, and 1:12:17.560 --> 1:12:19.720 Richie was like, give me deon next to me and 1:12:19.840 --> 1:12:22.240 him and Dion started just throwing dudes out of the kitchen. 1:12:22.560 --> 1:12:26.720 And so Dion's at left at at left tackle at 1:12:26.800 --> 1:12:30.080 left guard. They they didn't resign Feliciano. I like Feliciana. 1:12:30.080 --> 1:12:33.000 He's a throwback too. Roger yep. So he got saffold. 1:12:33.160 --> 1:12:36.679 Mitch Morris really good center. Ryan Bates will probably play 1:12:36.720 --> 1:12:39.040 right guard. They re signed him. And then I like 1:12:39.120 --> 1:12:40.920 that young kid, Spencer Brown. Did you watch him at all? 1:12:40.960 --> 1:12:41.720 Number seventy nine? 1:12:41.800 --> 1:12:43.360 No, I didn't watch him very much, but I was 1:12:43.760 --> 1:12:45.840 at the He had drafted in nineteen, right when the 1:12:45.960 --> 1:12:46.879 draft is in Nashville. 1:12:46.960 --> 1:12:49.200 No, he got drafted this year. Was it talking about 1:12:49.240 --> 1:12:51.680 Cody Ford? That's what I'm thinking. I announced that pick 1:12:51.720 --> 1:12:52.400 on stage down here. 1:12:52.560 --> 1:12:56.439 Really yeah, but Cody Ford second round pick, like the 1:12:56.479 --> 1:12:59.519 Bill Berner bean has not missed on many draft picks, 1:12:59.560 --> 1:13:02.160 like early on draft picks. And he didn't start last 1:13:02.200 --> 1:13:04.320 year again, and I don't know this would be his 1:13:04.400 --> 1:13:05.080 last year coming up. 1:13:05.120 --> 1:13:06.840 But Pop's got a solid o line. 1:13:06.880 --> 1:13:08.880 They take a ton of heat up there, which all 1:13:08.880 --> 1:13:12.280 the lines take heat. I'm like, look like, get I 1:13:12.280 --> 1:13:14.920 get all fired up defending the Bills offensive line. But 1:13:15.000 --> 1:13:18.240 I'll be like, look around the league and just start 1:13:18.280 --> 1:13:21.000 watching more offensive line film, Like there's not that many 1:13:21.000 --> 1:13:23.760 good offensive lines in the NFL right now, especially as 1:13:23.760 --> 1:13:25.960 you go later in the season, because the depth is 1:13:25.960 --> 1:13:28.040 really an issue, like filling a whole low line room 1:13:28.040 --> 1:13:30.479 with quality players. But I like where the Bills are 1:13:30.479 --> 1:13:32.559 out with their starting five for sure. Now, when you 1:13:32.600 --> 1:13:35.240 throw the ball eighty percent of the time, no, you're 1:13:35.280 --> 1:13:37.240 not gonna have a great run game. You're not gonna 1:13:37.240 --> 1:13:39.120 get in a rhythm in the run game. And so 1:13:39.240 --> 1:13:40.640 later in the year they started runn the ball a 1:13:40.680 --> 1:13:42.759 little bit more paid off for him. But they're good. 1:13:43.040 --> 1:13:45.200 I mean, the Bill's got a solid team, I mean 1:13:45.240 --> 1:13:47.760 the top to bottom the quarterback, but other than that, 1:13:48.720 --> 1:13:50.479 the pass game is definitely a strength. And then the 1:13:50.520 --> 1:13:53.000 past defense, that back end has played a ton of 1:13:53.000 --> 1:13:56.240 ball together. Those two safeties are so Jordan Poyer and 1:13:56.280 --> 1:14:00.880 Micah Hyde. They've played, Yeah, so since twenty seventeen, they've 1:14:00.880 --> 1:14:03.040 played pretty much every single game together. 1:14:03.320 --> 1:14:03.880 So they met. 1:14:04.160 --> 1:14:06.840 I listened to Tom Brady talk about them, and he's like, 1:14:07.080 --> 1:14:10.280 no one confuses quarterbacks like they do because they're moving 1:14:10.280 --> 1:14:11.840 before every snap and they just play off each other. 1:14:11.880 --> 1:14:13.760 It could be a loud stadium in Buffalo and they're 1:14:13.800 --> 1:14:16.400 just moving and and Will you can probably tell us 1:14:16.400 --> 1:14:18.200 more about how difficult that could be if like one 1:14:18.240 --> 1:14:20.360 safety's up on the line of scrimmage. Well like if 1:14:20.400 --> 1:14:22.320 you're the other States, you're like, when's he coming back? 1:14:22.479 --> 1:14:24.400 Like wait, dude, you got deep third and you just 1:14:24.439 --> 1:14:25.120 got to have trust. 1:14:25.120 --> 1:14:27.040 But those I would say the past defense of the 1:14:27.040 --> 1:14:30.280 pass offense is the strength, and that's where a team 1:14:30.360 --> 1:14:32.760 like Tennessee has giving them the most fits these last 1:14:32.760 --> 1:14:35.160 couple of years. New England beats them last year in 1:14:35.240 --> 1:14:37.200 Buffalo because just running the ball, they. 1:14:37.200 --> 1:14:38.720 Threw the ball three times. Now he was that was 1:14:38.760 --> 1:14:40.439 a crazy weather game. Crazy weather. 1:14:42.040 --> 1:14:42.680 Now was. 1:14:42.720 --> 1:14:46.000 They're trying to they're trying to get more physical upfront 1:14:46.040 --> 1:14:46.960 on both sides of the ball. 1:14:48.240 --> 1:14:50.000 I like it, dude, what's your weakness? 1:14:50.720 --> 1:14:57.280 The Bills weakness last year was rush defense and pass 1:14:57.400 --> 1:15:01.280 rush like and to me, like the Bill's production in 1:15:01.360 --> 1:15:03.600 sacks was pretty good, like I think at the end 1:15:03.640 --> 1:15:05.519 of the year, like number nine or eleven, like kind 1:15:05.520 --> 1:15:07.640 of in that range, like that's good upper middle, but 1:15:08.040 --> 1:15:11.479 in obvious pass rush situations, they just weren't getting home enough, 1:15:11.680 --> 1:15:15.200 like obvious pass rush like obvious you know, third and 1:15:15.200 --> 1:15:18.240 eleven and no one's close like like I know, as 1:15:18.240 --> 1:15:22.240 an offensive Lineman, Like we're just assuming someone's probably getting beat. 1:15:22.280 --> 1:15:24.639 You make the quarterback miss two people can't get beat 1:15:24.760 --> 1:15:26.840 or else then the sack happens, but you're gonna get 1:15:26.840 --> 1:15:29.519 away from one. But they just weren't getting home enough 1:15:29.520 --> 1:15:32.360 in obvious pass rush situations. And that's where, like you 1:15:32.360 --> 1:15:35.200 talk about being critical, I was pretty critical that often. Well, 1:15:35.200 --> 1:15:37.120 like Jerry Hughes and me we played a ton of 1:15:37.160 --> 1:15:39.519 ball together, like our wives are good friends, we're good friends, 1:15:39.520 --> 1:15:42.240 and it's like, how do you navigate that? But like 1:15:42.560 --> 1:15:45.040 Jerry probably tell you, like, no, you're right, like we 1:15:45.080 --> 1:15:45.880 didn't get home enough. 1:15:45.960 --> 1:15:48.000 He's got a pretty unique story too, right, because he's 1:15:48.000 --> 1:15:49.800 the first round pick to the Colts, sending behind in 1:15:49.840 --> 1:15:51.240 Freeny and mathis yeah. 1:15:51.040 --> 1:15:54.240 But was called a bust yeah for a little bit, 1:15:54.240 --> 1:15:56.280 and now he's really made a home at the Bills. 1:15:56.360 --> 1:15:57.920 We traded Kelvin Shepard. 1:15:58.000 --> 1:16:01.479 Kelvin Sheppard shows up in the spring middle linebacker exactly, 1:16:02.600 --> 1:16:06.840 yep oh shows up, shows up at two hundred and 1:16:06.840 --> 1:16:11.360 seventy three pounds as a middle linebacker, and trade straight 1:16:11.439 --> 1:16:15.200 up Jerry Hughes for Kelvin Shephard. I think Kelvin Shepherd's 1:16:15.200 --> 1:16:18.320 coaching in the league now. Anyways, Jerry's still playing their 1:16:18.320 --> 1:16:21.840 most productive pass rusher for a number of years. I 1:16:21.840 --> 1:16:23.800 always would tell Jerry before we play you all, because 1:16:23.840 --> 1:16:25.880 you get under Jerry's skin, no know what you do 1:16:25.920 --> 1:16:28.000 to him, like talking trash room or gimme a shot 1:16:28.000 --> 1:16:28.519 out to play. 1:16:29.280 --> 1:16:30.080 Yes, okay, cool. 1:16:30.080 --> 1:16:32.720 Like Jerry's gotten what like three personal fouls against the 1:16:32.720 --> 1:16:33.800 Titans in the last five years. 1:16:34.160 --> 1:16:36.519 Yeah, he's definitely gotten upset a few times. Oh, you 1:16:36.520 --> 1:16:37.320 get under his skin. 1:16:37.560 --> 1:16:39.920 Like before we all played on Monday Night Football this year, 1:16:39.960 --> 1:16:41.280 I went up to before the game. I was like, 1:16:41.479 --> 1:16:43.760 no personal fouls, I bro. Yeah, He's like he's like 1:16:43.800 --> 1:16:45.920 I know, I know. He was like that he is 1:16:46.000 --> 1:16:50.719 riding like that. Jerry's one of the Jerry Let's go boys, Jerry. 1:16:50.880 --> 1:16:55.960 Jerry is like one of the greatest people. Like awesome, awesome, dude. 1:16:56.080 --> 1:16:58.479 He is a hothead. Yeah, oh my gosh. You want 1:16:58.479 --> 1:17:01.080 to talk about someone talking trash to the refs, Like 1:17:01.240 --> 1:17:03.920 he'll be on the sideline chirping at the refs. But 1:17:04.439 --> 1:17:06.320 that's a dude you love to compete with. Like as 1:17:06.360 --> 1:17:08.639 a teammate, you're like, I'll go about it with that dude. 1:17:08.680 --> 1:17:11.000 That cares. You know, is he still He's not with 1:17:11.040 --> 1:17:12.160 the Bills anymore? He is? 1:17:12.280 --> 1:17:15.120 He He's still there. Actually write that down, boys, right down. 1:17:15.520 --> 1:17:17.160 I don't know if they resigned him or not. I 1:17:17.160 --> 1:17:19.240 should know that, but I think look. 1:17:19.120 --> 1:17:20.800 That up real quick to see if they resign him. 1:17:20.840 --> 1:17:24.280 I actually want to know that. For the Jerry Hughes, yeah, 1:17:24.280 --> 1:17:25.880 because because I know he was a free agent going 1:17:25.880 --> 1:17:28.280 in this year, year twelve. Do you guys go to 1:17:28.360 --> 1:17:30.360 Buffalo this year? I know we played Buffalo. I'm not 1:17:30.360 --> 1:17:31.280 sure if it's at. 1:17:31.280 --> 1:17:33.559 Or first in the divisions for the Bills. 1:17:33.800 --> 1:17:35.880 Yeah, we got the Titians got a schedule. Now, last 1:17:35.920 --> 1:17:39.360 year we had, like I think when the whole grades 1:17:39.400 --> 1:17:41.080 come out of like hardest schedule. We were like number 1:17:41.120 --> 1:17:45.000 one I think, and it went pretty well until the playoffs. 1:17:48.439 --> 1:17:50.320 Go back to go Gole, Go back to Google and 1:17:50.360 --> 1:17:57.280 then go to search tools peen tepen Moore or go 1:17:57.400 --> 1:18:02.639 to the more column right there. What the oh all 1:18:02.720 --> 1:18:07.000 results do anytime? Anytime ago twenty four hours? 1:18:07.479 --> 1:18:09.679 Yeah? 1:18:10.280 --> 1:18:12.080 Oh hey back in the day when you're something new 1:18:12.120 --> 1:18:13.960 every day, when you're in college, when you're in college 1:18:14.000 --> 1:18:15.519 and like trying to like figure out hey, like what 1:18:15.560 --> 1:18:16.479 are people thinking about me. 1:18:16.520 --> 1:18:18.400 I would do this shit all the time. It is 1:18:18.479 --> 1:18:18.920 so bad. 1:18:19.040 --> 1:18:21.640 What was your last year of college? Twenty thirteen? And 1:18:21.640 --> 1:18:23.920 I saw I got jacket at fourteen? Gotcha well? 1:18:23.960 --> 1:18:26.720 And we had Kurt Anderson, Michigan guy, so he was 1:18:26.720 --> 1:18:28.280 always talking about it and we were like looking at 1:18:28.320 --> 1:18:29.599 maybe taking a tackle early. 1:18:30.200 --> 1:18:30.479 Oh. 1:18:30.520 --> 1:18:32.439 So Kurt was always like, dude, we might be getting 1:18:32.439 --> 1:18:35.240 my boy laanen. And I don't know how close you'all were, 1:18:35.400 --> 1:18:36.280 just like your Michigan guys. 1:18:36.360 --> 1:18:38.600 Yea guys are No, we weren't very close with us, 1:18:38.760 --> 1:18:40.000 very cool he said that. Yeah. 1:18:40.080 --> 1:18:41.840 I was like, I definitely don't think I would have 1:18:41.840 --> 1:18:43.479 wanted to play for the Bills, just how cold it is. 1:18:43.520 --> 1:18:47.680 It's amazing what these last few years has done for 1:18:47.800 --> 1:18:49.720 like free agent signings and people wanted to get your 1:18:49.920 --> 1:18:51.240 people want to go to the Bills now. 1:18:51.400 --> 1:18:54.799 People don't realize is when you say, like, oh, why 1:18:54.840 --> 1:18:56.400 would people go to the Bills when they can go 1:18:56.439 --> 1:18:58.760 to LA It's like you're really spending six months out 1:18:58.760 --> 1:19:00.080 of the year there and it gets cold for a 1:19:00.120 --> 1:19:01.559 few months and then you can book it, you can 1:19:01.640 --> 1:19:02.759 lead you know what I'm saying. 1:19:02.920 --> 1:19:06.160 And it's actually pretty fun. To play up in Buffalo, 1:19:06.520 --> 1:19:07.880 being completely honest. 1:19:07.600 --> 1:19:09.479 Like we all live a lot of trouble. Richie was 1:19:09.520 --> 1:19:10.200 telling me about it. 1:19:10.240 --> 1:19:13.320 Like we all live by each other and so like 1:19:13.640 --> 1:19:15.719 in a city like this is in a monster city. 1:19:15.720 --> 1:19:17.799 But like in La, guys the forty five minutes apart, 1:19:17.800 --> 1:19:19.559 Like you leave the stadium, you're not gonna see them again. 1:19:19.600 --> 1:19:21.000 And I hang with the worlds like I come home 1:19:21.040 --> 1:19:23.200 from work. We had eight guys that lived in our neighborhood. 1:19:23.520 --> 1:19:26.000 Me and Richie shared a backyard his uncle, Richie did 1:19:26.040 --> 1:19:29.200 my little Gracy girl. But like I'd get home and 1:19:29.240 --> 1:19:31.519 like Leslie and Grace would be like off playing at 1:19:31.520 --> 1:19:34.760 someone else's house, like enjoying themselves and so like it's 1:19:34.800 --> 1:19:36.280 a ton of fun. And then you're right as soon 1:19:36.320 --> 1:19:37.519 as the season's over, you can vacation. 1:19:37.560 --> 1:19:39.599 You can live wherever you want, wherever you want, and 1:19:40.120 --> 1:19:42.400 like when you're up there, you should be working anyways, 1:19:42.400 --> 1:19:44.479 like it's grind time in the season, Like who cares 1:19:44.520 --> 1:19:46.799 if you're in La, Like, yeah, what was your regiment 1:19:46.880 --> 1:19:49.240 like when you were playing for me? Like I don't 1:19:49.600 --> 1:19:52.000 there's no drinking during the season for me at all. 1:19:52.080 --> 1:19:52.920 I just can't do it. 1:19:52.960 --> 1:19:53.400 And I hate. 1:19:53.439 --> 1:19:55.280 Like for me, it's always like, how do I stay 1:19:55.280 --> 1:19:57.080 ahead of the sticks? How do I make sure that 1:19:57.080 --> 1:19:58.920 my body's right going next week? And if I drink 1:19:59.000 --> 1:20:01.760 on a Sunday, even that next Sunday, let's say I'm 1:20:01.760 --> 1:20:03.559 not feeling as good or my conditioning is as good, 1:20:03.560 --> 1:20:05.280 I feel something, I'm like, fuck, you fucked it up 1:20:05.320 --> 1:20:06.559 for yourself, you know what I'm saying. 1:20:06.680 --> 1:20:10.960 Yeah, so I would drink Sunday or Monday generally, not 1:20:11.160 --> 1:20:13.840 like crazy. Now, if I got like a bunch of 1:20:13.840 --> 1:20:15.840 buddies in town, I'll kick back some drinks with them 1:20:15.840 --> 1:20:18.599 after a game. So after every single game home games, 1:20:18.640 --> 1:20:20.439 I hosted a tailgate in my truck after the game 1:20:20.560 --> 1:20:23.360 because it takes like an hour. Yeah, it takes like 1:20:23.360 --> 1:20:25.880 an hour and a half for the parking lot to 1:20:25.920 --> 1:20:27.320 clear out after you get out there. 1:20:27.479 --> 1:20:29.440 Well, we lived one mile from the stadium. 1:20:29.520 --> 1:20:32.080 If I left right after the game or I waited 1:20:32.120 --> 1:20:34.280 an hour, I'd get home about fifteen minutes apart. So yeah, 1:20:34.280 --> 1:20:37.600 I started packing a cooler and put a bunch of 1:20:37.640 --> 1:20:38.599 beers in the back of my truck. 1:20:38.680 --> 1:20:40.840 And honestly it was awesome fellowship like with the guys. 1:20:40.840 --> 1:20:43.040 As the game, everyone come by and everyone knew they 1:20:43.080 --> 1:20:45.080 were invited, like and so then you end up having 1:20:45.080 --> 1:20:46.840 to pack more and more, and then you know, some 1:20:46.880 --> 1:20:48.439 of the young guys like, hey, bring a couple extra 1:20:48.479 --> 1:20:50.200 thirty packs and you know, we'll throw them in. 1:20:50.360 --> 1:20:52.240 So we'd have a few beers chill out. 1:20:52.400 --> 1:20:54.160 Went to the same Italian spot when I broke my 1:20:54.240 --> 1:20:56.720 leg and half my rookie year, this Italian restaurant half 1:20:56.800 --> 1:20:59.840 and a half. Yeah, this Italian restaurant started just bringing 1:20:59.840 --> 1:21:01.400 over dinner for me and my wife, and I was like, 1:21:01.439 --> 1:21:03.200 you know what, I'm gonna be loyal to them, dude. 1:21:03.200 --> 1:21:06.000 They're still like I still eat there after every Bill's broadcast. Now, 1:21:06.040 --> 1:21:07.960 like after every game, we'd go in there, well at 1:21:08.000 --> 1:21:10.120 like nine, they'd shut the doors and lock the place 1:21:10.479 --> 1:21:12.200 and we would just we could do whatever we wanted 1:21:12.200 --> 1:21:13.720 and there watching that tod night football and chill out, 1:21:13.720 --> 1:21:15.080 and it was like our own little spot, like own 1:21:15.120 --> 1:21:17.840 little getaway. That's also the Talian spot. So I would 1:21:17.840 --> 1:21:20.040 generally drink on Sunday nights after home games. But I'm 1:21:20.080 --> 1:21:22.240 not like getting crushed, but like I'm the ultimate like 1:21:22.320 --> 1:21:25.080 reset button still to this day, Like like you know, 1:21:25.200 --> 1:21:26.240 we came down, we went. 1:21:26.160 --> 1:21:27.720 To Rubies, and I have no clue what you were 1:21:27.720 --> 1:21:29.479 talking about. We went, we went down, We went down 1:21:29.520 --> 1:21:31.360 to Rubies. Last night, we went to Jeff Rubies down here. 1:21:31.400 --> 1:21:33.320 Last night, you and the wife met up with a 1:21:33.520 --> 1:21:36.040 former teammate of mine, Mike Coston. We went out, had 1:21:36.040 --> 1:21:38.960 a few beers afterwards, like this morning, get in the gym, 1:21:39.080 --> 1:21:43.040 sweat it out a bunch of electrolytes, rehydrate, boom back in, 1:21:43.280 --> 1:21:43.720 back in it. 1:21:43.760 --> 1:21:44.920 So like even when I was playing. 1:21:45.080 --> 1:21:46.760 But I'm like you, like I'd see dudes drink on 1:21:46.800 --> 1:21:50.040 Fridays and I was like, man if I cramped up 1:21:50.040 --> 1:21:52.240 in the game on Sunday and I drank on a Friday, like, 1:21:52.240 --> 1:21:54.479 I would never forget, I would never forgive myself. 1:21:54.560 --> 1:21:56.680 No. And I'm like such a warrior, Like a. 1:21:56.640 --> 1:22:00.240 Buddy of mine played a decade at tackling the league. 1:22:00.960 --> 1:22:02.920 I mean he got blacked out every Friday night. 1:22:03.160 --> 1:22:04.760 And like a lot of those dudes in like Green 1:22:04.800 --> 1:22:09.160 Bay back in the day, like uh, sitting in those dudes, Yeah, 1:22:09.240 --> 1:22:11.599 they drank every week and they balled out with it and. 1:22:11.520 --> 1:22:14.080 Looked like he drank every single day. He had that body. 1:22:14.200 --> 1:22:15.800 I know, But like I would never be able to 1:22:15.840 --> 1:22:16.439 forgive myself. 1:22:16.720 --> 1:22:19.760 We come in on a Saturday for like the walkthroughs 1:22:19.760 --> 1:22:22.240 and everything else, and there'd be a there'd be a 1:22:22.280 --> 1:22:25.320 couple of dudes sleeping in the fucking locker room right 1:22:25.360 --> 1:22:28.519 from being out there before, just crazy alcohol smelling drunk. 1:22:28.560 --> 1:22:31.920 Still, it's just like, yo, what are you fucking doing? Right? 1:22:33.600 --> 1:22:37.040 Was a lot like that league, and that's like Rex 1:22:37.320 --> 1:22:41.160 was like real like Rex's personality, he said, like his 1:22:41.280 --> 1:22:44.479 coaching style is to empower you, like, dude, you're the 1:22:44.520 --> 1:22:46.800 baddest dude on our team. Like I remember we brought 1:22:46.800 --> 1:22:52.720 in Percy Harvey yesterday and uh, but he was like 1:22:52.760 --> 1:22:55.040 he's so empowering. Well, we had all these young cats 1:22:55.080 --> 1:22:59.080 that they like drafted, all these like wild dudes. Well 1:22:59.080 --> 1:23:02.240 then Rex is like empowering him. Like you go like, 1:23:02.600 --> 1:23:04.479 you do your thing, do whatever you got to do 1:23:04.479 --> 1:23:06.280 to get ready for the game. And they're all hammered 1:23:06.320 --> 1:23:07.679 on Friday night, come in Saturday. 1:23:07.680 --> 1:23:09.680 I'm like, oh god, we got no shot, like we 1:23:09.760 --> 1:23:12.320 Oh that's the worst feeling, dude. I know when you 1:23:12.400 --> 1:23:15.040 kind of just know she hasn't been going the way 1:23:15.040 --> 1:23:19.200 it ship this week, I said anything, damn I know it. 1:23:19.479 --> 1:23:21.639 I freaking love Rex. Though he's such a good dude, 1:23:21.760 --> 1:23:24.400 and you said he lives here. Yeah, yeah, he'd probably 1:23:24.439 --> 1:23:24.960 be fun to get on. 1:23:25.040 --> 1:23:28.720 It was over at any Lavetrie used to live over there. 1:23:28.800 --> 1:23:30.959 You played Andy, right, Yeah, great dude. 1:23:30.720 --> 1:23:32.200 Great dude he was. He was one of my grooms 1:23:32.200 --> 1:23:34.240 with my wedding. Really yeah, that's awesome. 1:23:34.320 --> 1:23:34.479 Yeah. 1:23:34.560 --> 1:23:36.120 The only time I've ever been up in Buffalo was 1:23:36.120 --> 1:23:38.760 for his wedding with his wife. Was like July fourth weekend. Yeah, 1:23:38.880 --> 1:23:42.439 real selfish weekend to have a wedding. Because absolutely, I'm 1:23:42.479 --> 1:23:45.040 trying to it's the best holiday, second best holiday behind 1:23:45.080 --> 1:23:47.200 in the Halloween in my opinion. But we went out 1:23:47.200 --> 1:23:49.479 there and we had some wings. I don't know what 1:23:49.479 --> 1:23:51.240 the fuss is about in Buffalo with the wings. 1:23:51.520 --> 1:23:52.920 You didn't go to the right spot then, I mean, 1:23:52.920 --> 1:23:53.880 I got there's some wings up there. 1:23:54.000 --> 1:23:55.760 Change and he took us to Spice like this is it. 1:23:55.760 --> 1:23:57.640 I don't remember what it's called. I'm not here to 1:23:57.720 --> 1:23:59.720 I'm not here. I'm gonna get killed by Bill's mafia again. 1:23:59.760 --> 1:24:01.559 But I wasn't. I didn't understand it. 1:24:01.560 --> 1:24:06.200 Tastes like Hooters wings breaded, weren't very good. 1:24:06.240 --> 1:24:09.280 I'm beyond the spot. I never take place bred of wings. No, 1:24:09.360 --> 1:24:11.200 no way, what's the best spot? I love? How you 1:24:11.240 --> 1:24:14.920 want violence against Bill's mafia. I don't want my favorite 1:24:14.960 --> 1:24:16.519 Hooters wings. That's my experience. 1:24:17.120 --> 1:24:18.960 Yeah, my favorite spot is a place called Bar Bill 1:24:19.080 --> 1:24:21.120 and it's like a craft like they take it serious. 1:24:21.280 --> 1:24:24.040 That thing up bar Bill, bar Bill b A R 1:24:24.160 --> 1:24:25.320 space B I L L. 1:24:26.600 --> 1:24:30.280 They do it right. How do they do these wings? 1:24:30.760 --> 1:24:33.080 I mean they're like hating the sauce on there. It's 1:24:33.080 --> 1:24:38.240 the presentation. They separate the drums from the flats, homemade 1:24:38.760 --> 1:24:39.839 homemade blue cheese. 1:24:40.840 --> 1:24:43.400 Maybe we're on a potographic website right now. 1:24:46.160 --> 1:24:49.160 Hey, I do love chicken wings like crazy. No that 1:24:49.200 --> 1:24:53.200 she looks fire? Yeah, yeah that I got my own 1:24:53.240 --> 1:24:53.720 bug there. 1:24:54.240 --> 1:24:58.160 And so like generally, when I'm drinking, generally, generally, when 1:24:58.200 --> 1:25:01.639 I'm drinking, my mouth say, I'll say, like the waitress back, 1:25:01.680 --> 1:25:03.519 you want another, like, I'll do one more. Like that 1:25:03.560 --> 1:25:05.519 doesn't mean that's my last one, Like I just want 1:25:05.520 --> 1:25:07.439 one at that time. So they did a mug for me. 1:25:07.560 --> 1:25:10.719 It said I'll do one more. And then you've probably 1:25:10.800 --> 1:25:14.000 drank with Richie before. Every time Richie drinks the next morning, 1:25:14.040 --> 1:25:16.519 it's I'm never drinking again. Yeah, I had them do 1:25:16.560 --> 1:25:19.599 a mug that said I'm never drinking again. 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Oh? 1:26:26.439 --> 1:26:28.160 I know the locker room talk. I don't know what 1:26:28.200 --> 1:26:30.439 your story was. If it was, no, I'll always talk 1:26:30.439 --> 1:26:31.840 about that. I was just trying to get his creative. 1:26:31.840 --> 1:26:33.840 I was just thinking about, like, you know, I love that. 1:26:33.880 --> 1:26:36.320 I'm sorry for sending the growth of this, okay, and 1:26:36.360 --> 1:26:38.200 then I'll get into a good story with Richie because 1:26:38.240 --> 1:26:40.240 you prepped me on that and I got a funny one. 1:26:40.280 --> 1:26:42.759 But we playing with Richie was awesome. 1:26:42.800 --> 1:26:46.679 In twenty fifteen, in February, Doug Whaley is our GM 1:26:46.920 --> 1:26:48.960 and he reached out to me, he said, and we 1:26:49.000 --> 1:26:50.920 had gone into the offseason no, and we needed a 1:26:50.920 --> 1:26:51.679 couple of new guards. 1:26:52.040 --> 1:26:53.760 You know he would He was like, he's like, he's 1:26:53.760 --> 1:26:56.080 like player in coach. Oh, yeah, he kind of. He can. 1:26:56.200 --> 1:26:57.920 He's able to play Bothy. Some mine like that. He's 1:26:57.920 --> 1:26:59.920 got very much. Ben Jones pipes to me. 1:27:01.760 --> 1:27:03.400 Are like a lot of centers are like, yeah, we're 1:27:03.439 --> 1:27:06.160 just smart. Just cut the same way and with the coaches, 1:27:06.760 --> 1:27:07.439 corporate guys. 1:27:07.640 --> 1:27:09.280 See, I said, down with the coach, we're kind of talking, 1:27:09.400 --> 1:27:10.840 you know, we kind of need we kind of knew. 1:27:11.520 --> 1:27:13.280 Oh yeah, that's like Kyle Lorten came to the Bills. 1:27:13.320 --> 1:27:15.160 He's like, you're such a company guy. I'm like, Orton, 1:27:15.200 --> 1:27:18.720 you've been with five different teams and like, maybe you 1:27:18.760 --> 1:27:19.320 should be a. 1:27:19.240 --> 1:27:21.280 Little bit more of a company guy. But we learned 1:27:21.280 --> 1:27:22.200 the game a little bit more. 1:27:22.439 --> 1:27:26.519 Yeah, exactly, ship on the company guys. But it's not 1:27:26.560 --> 1:27:28.760 a bad gig. No, it's not a bad gig to 1:27:28.760 --> 1:27:31.880 be that dude. No, I just have an issue with authority. Yeah. 1:27:31.720 --> 1:27:33.640 Yeah, it used to be heavy and the you know, 1:27:34.320 --> 1:27:36.720 the police. You know what I'm saying, the company guys. 1:27:36.760 --> 1:27:38.840 But so Doug Whaley called me up, what do you 1:27:38.880 --> 1:27:39.800 think about bringing Richie? 1:27:39.840 --> 1:27:40.759 And we had the same agent. 1:27:40.840 --> 1:27:42.839 I'd met him at a bunch of events with athletes 1:27:42.880 --> 1:27:45.160 first and this and that. Loved the dude, and I 1:27:45.200 --> 1:27:47.200 was like, bring him in. I know he went through 1:27:47.200 --> 1:27:48.880 all that crap in Miami. I've talked to him about 1:27:48.880 --> 1:27:52.160 it personally. It'll be good, I'll you know. He moved 1:27:52.160 --> 1:27:52.840 in like right. 1:27:52.720 --> 1:27:54.639 Behind the incredible to his side of the story. 1:27:55.840 --> 1:27:58.280 It's at some point he needs to write a book 1:27:58.280 --> 1:27:59.240 and tell his side of the story. 1:27:59.400 --> 1:28:01.400 It would be probably be a best sellery. 1:28:01.520 --> 1:28:04.479 What Jonathan Martin Jonathan Martin story with Jonathan said he 1:28:04.520 --> 1:28:05.720 was getting bullied and stuff like that. 1:28:06.000 --> 1:28:08.880 Oh racial stuff. 1:28:09.560 --> 1:28:11.880 Yeah, listen, you know my vibe on that stuff. You 1:28:11.880 --> 1:28:13.320 should never say the N word or anything. And I 1:28:13.320 --> 1:28:16.320 think there was a voicemail or something. Yeah, but they 1:28:16.360 --> 1:28:18.599 were apparently they had a relationship. They had a relationship 1:28:18.640 --> 1:28:20.439 where like he was okay with him saying that. I 1:28:20.439 --> 1:28:21.920 don't know, like I said, I'm not cool with that. 1:28:21.880 --> 1:28:25.400 Word, but Richie know what at that time, Like Richie 1:28:25.400 --> 1:28:27.439 wouldn't do that. Now I'd assume, you know what I mean, 1:28:27.479 --> 1:28:29.760 Like it wasn't whatever it was, it's always been a 1:28:29.760 --> 1:28:33.439 big deal regardless we bring in Richie. He was great 1:28:33.479 --> 1:28:36.599 for us, Like, never got in trouble. He's smart, he's physical. 1:28:36.760 --> 1:28:40.000 I've never us used to train with Richie. I've never 1:28:40.000 --> 1:28:41.479 been around anyone as strong as Richie. 1:28:41.479 --> 1:28:43.439 I mean he's kind of a guy. You're just like, 1:28:43.520 --> 1:28:45.320 all right, do this weight now, and he's like, okay. 1:28:45.360 --> 1:28:47.240 I never seen him struggle with weight. 1:28:47.280 --> 1:28:49.719 They wouldn't let him lift enough weight in Buffalo even 1:28:49.760 --> 1:28:52.960 like truly challenge himself and it's like unbelievable. Like I'm 1:28:53.000 --> 1:28:55.280 doing like two seventy five on incline and they're like, 1:28:55.280 --> 1:28:57.719 all right, just slap another uh played on the outside 1:28:57.760 --> 1:28:59.800 for Richie. I'm like what and like all right, I'll 1:28:59.800 --> 1:29:02.160 put another court on the outside for Richie. Just bangs 1:29:02.160 --> 1:29:04.760 it racks and like you can't go any higher, Like yeah, 1:29:04.920 --> 1:29:07.559 like holy smoke, this crazy strong rogers a lot like that. 1:29:07.880 --> 1:29:11.000 He's extremely strong, but go ahead with Yeah, So Richie, 1:29:11.120 --> 1:29:14.840 Richie was absolutely awesome to play with. You know, we 1:29:14.880 --> 1:29:17.800 may Pro Bowl together, had a ton of fun out 1:29:17.800 --> 1:29:20.120 in Hawaii with him, and we've gotten really close. 1:29:19.920 --> 1:29:20.519 Over the years. 1:29:20.560 --> 1:29:23.680 You know, he's truly one of my best friends now. 1:29:24.760 --> 1:29:27.920 But so we were talking about stories and whatnot earlier. 1:29:29.240 --> 1:29:30.599 So we used to take our old line trips out 1:29:30.640 --> 1:29:32.040 of the season. So do you all do the fine 1:29:32.080 --> 1:29:32.760 system in your room? 1:29:32.840 --> 1:29:34.840 Yeah? Okay, so we do the fine system? Is that 1:29:34.880 --> 1:29:36.559 the locker room story? Yeah? 1:29:36.640 --> 1:29:38.600 Well, this this is gonna be a like this is 1:29:38.600 --> 1:29:40.360 a Richie Line story? 1:29:40.439 --> 1:29:40.639 Right? 1:29:41.040 --> 1:29:42.080 What year is this? 1:29:42.080 --> 1:29:46.360 This is twenty sixteen? This is this is January of 1:29:46.400 --> 1:29:48.559 twenty seventeen. Because I have a walking boot on, which 1:29:48.600 --> 1:29:51.240 contributes to the story because I just broke my leg. 1:29:52.400 --> 1:29:54.479 So we used to always go to Vegas with half 1:29:54.520 --> 1:29:56.679 the fine money. The other half we'd like take kids 1:29:56.720 --> 1:29:59.719 Christmas shop, and then we justified taking this like Vegas 1:29:59.720 --> 1:30:01.120 trip and we just go out there and spend a 1:30:01.120 --> 1:30:03.360 bunch of money. And but like after the season, like 1:30:03.400 --> 1:30:04.880 you're so stressed out all year, then you go to 1:30:04.960 --> 1:30:07.639 Vegas and like your heart's racing the whole time. They're 1:30:07.680 --> 1:30:09.640 like gouging you every time you walk in anywhere with 1:30:09.680 --> 1:30:12.000 ten fat dudes. It's like, all right, screw this. I 1:30:12.040 --> 1:30:13.920 was like, let's go to Key West one time, Like 1:30:14.000 --> 1:30:16.080 hear me out, Let's go down Key West, Like you 1:30:16.120 --> 1:30:18.439 can leave the room and flip flops, t shirt and 1:30:18.479 --> 1:30:21.080 shorts in the morning, eat anywhere you want, Like it's 1:30:21.160 --> 1:30:23.360 just chill, Like, let's go down there, chill out. So 1:30:23.400 --> 1:30:25.240 we go down there after a couple of pretty big 1:30:25.280 --> 1:30:26.960 days of drink and we wake up the third day, 1:30:27.280 --> 1:30:29.320 we go to your grab brunch and we're like, man, 1:30:29.400 --> 1:30:32.360 nothing sounds good. Ask the waitress, like, give us something 1:30:32.640 --> 1:30:36.640 that's not tequila, bourbon beer, this, that, And she's like, 1:30:36.760 --> 1:30:39.519 how about a darkened store and like a rum and whatever, Yeah, 1:30:39.560 --> 1:30:42.719 let's do it. So then the waitress is like, after 1:30:42.720 --> 1:30:44.280 we had a few, she's like, you know who drinks 1:30:44.600 --> 1:30:47.280 rum before noon? Like who like pirates? I was like 1:30:47.320 --> 1:30:50.280 that's pretty good. So then we became pirates. So on 1:30:50.280 --> 1:30:51.040 on the island. 1:30:51.720 --> 1:30:53.200 So then we became pirates. 1:30:53.240 --> 1:30:57.479 So on the island, they have an authentic costume store 1:30:57.880 --> 1:31:01.719 that like specializes in pirateouf. So we spend five of us, 1:31:02.080 --> 1:31:04.400 four of us go spend twenty five hundred dollars on 1:31:04.600 --> 1:31:08.639 pirate out. It's each total, okay, And. 1:31:08.640 --> 1:31:11.120 I'm in a boots, so obviously I'm like Captain Hook 1:31:11.200 --> 1:31:15.240 with the peg leg and the hat and coat and. 1:31:15.040 --> 1:31:18.439 Like ruffled shirt. And Richie's got this whole big deal. 1:31:18.479 --> 1:31:21.320 And so we're walking around as pirates. We're walking into 1:31:21.360 --> 1:31:24.559 bars and Richie would just rake tables of drinks off 1:31:25.040 --> 1:31:28.519 and we literally I would literally have to like and 1:31:28.520 --> 1:31:30.599 people would be like, oh my god, that's Richie incognito. 1:31:30.680 --> 1:31:32.200 I'm like, I know we're gonna make it right. I'm 1:31:32.240 --> 1:31:33.960 gonna buy you two rounds of drinks out of this. 1:31:34.240 --> 1:31:35.200 Yeah, we're all good clean. 1:31:35.360 --> 1:31:37.599 He just fucking oh, he's a he's a wild animal 1:31:37.640 --> 1:31:39.599 and he drinks you. It's but it's fun times. 1:31:39.680 --> 1:31:43.439 Yeah, yeah, I mean malicious, he's just yeah shop, yes, 1:31:43.600 --> 1:31:46.320 i mean he's just so big. But anyways, so like 1:31:46.439 --> 1:31:48.760 our favorite times are like when are we gonna go 1:31:48.840 --> 1:31:51.519 back and be pirates again? And I mean we would 1:31:51.560 --> 1:31:53.000 do those old line trips, like do you all do 1:31:53.000 --> 1:31:53.920 an oldlane trip as the year? 1:31:54.000 --> 1:31:55.120 Yeah, we went to Vegas this year. 1:31:55.280 --> 1:31:57.519 Yeah, I'm always big on getting the boys to Cabo, 1:31:57.880 --> 1:32:00.160 and everyone's all about it in August it's September. Then 1:32:00.200 --> 1:32:02.439 October hits been like, you know, Vegas is closer, we 1:32:02.439 --> 1:32:04.479 could do that. Oh we all want to gamble and 1:32:04.479 --> 1:32:06.320 then all of a sudden Vegas happens. 1:32:06.439 --> 1:32:07.120 Yeah. 1:32:07.160 --> 1:32:10.040 Well, Cabo's maybe one of my favorite plays on there. 1:32:10.120 --> 1:32:13.879 Yeah me my wife won seven straight off seasons. Really yeah, 1:32:13.960 --> 1:32:15.920 it's one of my favorite places in the world. Yeah, 1:32:15.920 --> 1:32:16.880 I know, you talk about all the time. 1:32:17.439 --> 1:32:21.320 The one time the Hill Petrigal got like the yeah 1:32:21.320 --> 1:32:23.400 you know, okay my man's local. 1:32:23.520 --> 1:32:26.080 Yeah yeah, yeah, we did that one year and then 1:32:26.600 --> 1:32:27.120 that place is. 1:32:27.080 --> 1:32:29.200 Great because you're five minutes from downtown squid Road. The 1:32:29.200 --> 1:32:29.559 whole thing. 1:32:29.680 --> 1:32:31.719 My favorite spot is the Hassi End of Beach Club 1:32:31.920 --> 1:32:35.080 because you can get those private residents there, like if the. 1:32:35.040 --> 1:32:36.519 Wives want to lay out and chill. 1:32:36.880 --> 1:32:38.640 You can walk right from your place down on the 1:32:38.640 --> 1:32:41.120 beach and you're like forty steps from like Mango Deck 1:32:41.160 --> 1:32:43.240 and all that my fast my favorite bar there, yep. 1:32:43.280 --> 1:32:44.800 And then you got the office right there like that, 1:32:44.840 --> 1:32:46.720 you can just walk to it all. But then you 1:32:46.720 --> 1:32:48.559 get inside your like little gates and you're at a 1:32:48.560 --> 1:32:49.320 five star spot. 1:32:49.320 --> 1:32:50.840 You know, the owner of Mango, you know how they do, 1:32:50.920 --> 1:32:52.280 like the shows every day, Like there's a wet T 1:32:52.400 --> 1:32:53.920 shirt contest one day and the next day it's like 1:32:53.960 --> 1:32:56.479 a push up contest. Anytime they do the push up contest, 1:32:56.479 --> 1:32:59.080 there's always like the sixty five year old dude who's 1:32:59.120 --> 1:33:01.400 like in a baggy T shirt and kind of just 1:33:01.400 --> 1:33:03.280 sitting there having a drink. And they get all these billy, 1:33:03.320 --> 1:33:05.280 badass tough guys on spring break to kind of go 1:33:05.360 --> 1:33:07.640 up there and do their do the test. Well, the 1:33:07.720 --> 1:33:12.240 guy apparently he's the owner and he's fucking rocked up, 1:33:12.680 --> 1:33:14.640 and they like start egging on the older guy to 1:33:14.800 --> 1:33:16.400 come and do the push up contest and he's like 1:33:16.400 --> 1:33:18.360 all right, fine, takes your shirt off, and you're like 1:33:18.439 --> 1:33:19.439 Jesus Christ. 1:33:20.120 --> 1:33:22.559 He walks up and just muscles out like one hundred 1:33:22.560 --> 1:33:22.960 of those things. 1:33:23.000 --> 1:33:25.760 No problem do big buff guys are dropping out like 1:33:25.800 --> 1:33:26.400 thirty five. 1:33:26.960 --> 1:33:29.040 And he's a buff old guy. I think that might 1:33:29.080 --> 1:33:30.760 be him. That might be him. 1:33:30.960 --> 1:33:32.840 Look, that's the cutting the that's the cut in the 1:33:32.840 --> 1:33:34.360 hole right behind it, and. 1:33:34.439 --> 1:33:37.639 It sits right there, you know, like that little famous 1:33:37.680 --> 1:33:39.679 little look of cobble where they have those like rocks 1:33:39.680 --> 1:33:41.040 as you're kind of going out and have that. 1:33:40.960 --> 1:33:43.520 Little yeah, well there's a clove. 1:33:44.360 --> 1:33:47.160 There's beautiful like big rocks that kind of stick out 1:33:47.160 --> 1:33:48.840 of the water as you're like driving your boat to 1:33:48.880 --> 1:33:52.320 go with marlin fishing or fishing or whatever, and right 1:33:52.360 --> 1:33:54.240 there right next to the harbor's mango deck. 1:33:54.520 --> 1:33:55.759 And it's fucking unreal. 1:33:55.880 --> 1:33:57.840 Let me give you one more like O line deal 1:33:59.479 --> 1:34:01.960 and and maybe some of the listeners can apply this one. 1:34:02.200 --> 1:34:05.400 So we would host all holidays at our house up 1:34:05.439 --> 1:34:08.479 in Buffalo. So we created this deal for Thanksgiving. And 1:34:08.479 --> 1:34:10.200 this is like when you talk about catching craft for 1:34:10.240 --> 1:34:12.280 the podcast. This is the thing that I would catch 1:34:12.280 --> 1:34:14.720 the most crap on for social media every year if 1:34:14.720 --> 1:34:16.559 like we played bad on Sunday, Like I would catch 1:34:16.560 --> 1:34:18.360 a ton of heat for this. So we created this 1:34:18.439 --> 1:34:20.599 rule that when anyone could come to the house, everyone 1:34:20.600 --> 1:34:22.280 could do it, but you have to weigh in and 1:34:22.320 --> 1:34:24.479 weigh out, and then we have this like overall champion 1:34:24.520 --> 1:34:26.320 who put on the most weight throughout the day. Well 1:34:26.360 --> 1:34:28.040 then we got like real competitive with it, and you 1:34:28.040 --> 1:34:29.960 put some money on the line and all that. Where 1:34:29.960 --> 1:34:32.320 like I wouldn't even drink water at practice that day 1:34:32.640 --> 1:34:34.200 and I get in the sawn us then you weigh 1:34:34.240 --> 1:34:36.120 in like super light when you get home. Well then 1:34:36.160 --> 1:34:38.800 you're like rehydrate. Well, there's seven pounds right there, eight 1:34:38.840 --> 1:34:42.320 pounds right there, and then you know, you eat and whatever. 1:34:42.439 --> 1:34:45.719 So then we started like posting the rankings online. USA 1:34:45.760 --> 1:34:49.760 Today ran with it, and so these weight gain competitions 1:34:49.800 --> 1:34:52.640 on Thanksgiving became a pretty big deal in the woodhousehold. 1:34:52.680 --> 1:34:55.080 Like and then you start winning some pretty decent cash. 1:34:55.120 --> 1:34:57.760 It's like okay, like a grand or something. You know, 1:34:57.840 --> 1:35:00.320 like nothing crazy, but like to a young enough to 1:35:00.320 --> 1:35:02.559 put effort into a young dude on practice squad like. 1:35:03.280 --> 1:35:06.679 Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, no doubt. 1:35:06.800 --> 1:35:09.439 Richie sat in front of the in front of the 1:35:09.439 --> 1:35:11.360 fridge one year and just was chugging wait till he 1:35:11.600 --> 1:35:12.680 or drugging water till he. 1:35:12.760 --> 1:35:14.559 Gained enough weight to win it, and we so then 1:35:14.600 --> 1:35:15.200 we had. 1:35:15.040 --> 1:35:17.120 To put like some gentleman's rolls about it, like dude, 1:35:17.120 --> 1:35:19.360 you can't just like sit in front of there and 1:35:19.439 --> 1:35:20.720 drink water at the end of the night. 1:35:20.760 --> 1:35:22.920 And Richie's mom was going, I'm like, Richie, you're gonna puke. 1:35:23.000 --> 1:35:25.559 You're disgusting. Yeah, Jersey girl. 1:35:26.200 --> 1:35:30.040 Where So, when Richie left Buffalo, he obviously went through 1:35:30.080 --> 1:35:32.280 a lot of stuff. Yep, where where were you in 1:35:32.320 --> 1:35:36.000 his life at that point? Trying to manage all of it? Yeah, honestly, 1:35:36.040 --> 1:35:38.679 and I and and honestly, you know, his dad passed 1:35:39.479 --> 1:35:42.120 mocked her in the middle of it. Richie, Richie struggled 1:35:42.160 --> 1:35:44.080 initially with my career ending more than I did. 1:35:44.439 --> 1:35:44.839 Really. 1:35:44.920 --> 1:35:47.640 You know, he's so emotional and he's so like like 1:35:47.680 --> 1:35:50.040 if you're close to Richie, like if you're in his 1:35:50.080 --> 1:35:53.040 inner circle, like he loves you, like you know, Richie 1:35:53.040 --> 1:35:55.320 doesn't have a wife and kids, so like, well, my 1:35:55.400 --> 1:35:58.120 career ended, like he was hurt, hurt. 1:35:57.960 --> 1:36:00.000 And then his dad got sick and passed. 1:36:00.200 --> 1:36:03.320 Then you know, Richie has come out that you know, 1:36:03.720 --> 1:36:06.080 he has mental health issues, Like that's it's and it's 1:36:06.080 --> 1:36:08.439 okay to talk about nowadays, which is great because that 1:36:08.560 --> 1:36:10.800 it needs to be talked about. And Jay Glazer's wing 1:36:10.840 --> 1:36:12.679 a bunch of good work in that community right now too. 1:36:13.000 --> 1:36:17.040 But anyway, so all that compounded on him, and he, 1:36:17.840 --> 1:36:20.080 you know, put himself in the media again doing some 1:36:20.240 --> 1:36:22.439 great stuff and all that. But then the Raiders took 1:36:22.439 --> 1:36:24.960 a shot on it, took a shot on him, and 1:36:25.040 --> 1:36:27.360 it paid off and he's been a model citizen out 1:36:27.360 --> 1:36:31.519 there again. But I believe Mike Mayock their GM at 1:36:31.560 --> 1:36:33.759 the time when they signed him, his wife like works 1:36:33.760 --> 1:36:36.400 in that space. Oh really, it was like like it 1:36:37.040 --> 1:36:38.960 was an advocate for Richie, which was really cool. 1:36:39.280 --> 1:36:41.840 Richie was was one of the guys that I met 1:36:41.880 --> 1:36:45.080 my wife when we got engaged in five weeks, married 1:36:45.120 --> 1:36:47.280 in three months, good for you. And he was one 1:36:47.320 --> 1:36:49.320 of those guys during that process where I'm kind of 1:36:49.360 --> 1:36:51.120 so worried about what other people are gonna think, what's 1:36:51.120 --> 1:36:53.519 gonna happen, where he was like he kind of sat 1:36:53.560 --> 1:36:54.920 me down, had the are you sure about this? 1:36:54.960 --> 1:36:55.160 Talk? 1:36:55.160 --> 1:36:56.920 And once I kind of gave him the reasons why 1:36:56.920 --> 1:36:59.720 I'm sure. He was like the number one supporter, like 1:36:59.760 --> 1:37:02.960 he he and Taylor were great friends. We all went 1:37:02.960 --> 1:37:06.080 to Vegas together for the McGregor Diaz fight. Like truly 1:37:06.120 --> 1:37:07.000 an older brother to me. 1:37:07.080 --> 1:37:09.000 He he was, he was. I miss him all the time. 1:37:09.320 --> 1:37:11.800 You know, our relationship isn't what it was because of 1:37:11.880 --> 1:37:13.880 a lot of things during that time, which is which 1:37:13.920 --> 1:37:16.280 is tough, especially having two little kids and you know, 1:37:16.760 --> 1:37:19.160 all that stuff he was dealing with. But I fucking 1:37:19.280 --> 1:37:21.479 love that guy and I miss him all the time. 1:37:21.600 --> 1:37:23.680 So so many people know that me and rich are 1:37:23.720 --> 1:37:27.000 so close that when all that stuff started happening to Richie, well, 1:37:27.400 --> 1:37:29.479 I'm dealing with my own career ending, and now I'm 1:37:29.520 --> 1:37:31.760 just getting peppered with calls and text I'm talking to 1:37:31.760 --> 1:37:32.639 his mom every day and. 1:37:32.560 --> 1:37:34.400 All that, and his boy in Utah. 1:37:34.479 --> 1:37:37.880 Yeah, so I'm like talking to all these people and 1:37:37.000 --> 1:37:40.439 uh and and so it ends it ended up being 1:37:40.479 --> 1:37:42.640 a lot. But it's your brother, you know, Like I 1:37:42.680 --> 1:37:46.160 would do anything for that dude, absolutely anything. So it's like, dude, 1:37:46.200 --> 1:37:48.680 if it's phone calls, if it's whatever, like I'll do 1:37:48.720 --> 1:37:49.519 anything for him, you know. 1:37:49.960 --> 1:37:51.840 You know, So he's happy, and I know that I 1:37:51.840 --> 1:37:53.760 don't know what he's gonna do with the rest of 1:37:53.800 --> 1:37:54.120 his career. 1:37:54.160 --> 1:37:56.120 He didn't. He didn't play very much last year the 1:37:56.120 --> 1:37:58.519 Calf and yeah, like tourist calf. So he was out. 1:37:58.760 --> 1:38:02.240 He was out year, and I think I think he's done. 1:38:02.439 --> 1:38:03.040 I'm not sure. 1:38:03.120 --> 1:38:05.360 It's not my job to say what his career is 1:38:05.400 --> 1:38:07.640 at this point, but like, if he is finished, you 1:38:07.720 --> 1:38:10.320 just hope that he puts enough structure in his life 1:38:10.320 --> 1:38:13.240 to kind of like be happy and comfortable where he's at. 1:38:13.439 --> 1:38:15.559 He's made a lot of money and he's done his thing, 1:38:15.600 --> 1:38:18.640 and you know, he's single, no kids, like he's he 1:38:18.680 --> 1:38:20.120 has a great life in Arizona. I just hope he 1:38:20.200 --> 1:38:21.800 kind of keeps up with what he's been doing last 1:38:21.840 --> 1:38:22.559 couple of years. 1:38:22.479 --> 1:38:24.160 No doubt about it. I'm meeting him down in May 1:38:24.360 --> 1:38:27.439 play some golf down in Jupiter. Yeah, so I'll get 1:38:27.439 --> 1:38:28.720 to catch up with him. I haven't seen him in 1:38:28.720 --> 1:38:29.360 person forever. 1:38:29.600 --> 1:38:29.800 Yeah. 1:38:29.800 --> 1:38:31.519 I saw him the last game of the year, the 1:38:31.560 --> 1:38:33.479 Charges game. He came through and we were trying to 1:38:33.520 --> 1:38:35.640 get into the playoffs, and he was he seemed like 1:38:35.680 --> 1:38:36.879 he was in a great headspace. 1:38:37.080 --> 1:38:39.679 Monster bear hug. Yeah. I was a little nervous because. 1:38:39.560 --> 1:38:43.000 You know, yeah, we had a will and I just 1:38:43.160 --> 1:38:45.439 met when So when Taylor and I got married. We 1:38:45.439 --> 1:38:47.200 got married just the two of us on four twenty 1:38:47.240 --> 1:38:50.599 because we thought it was hilarious. And then fast forward 1:38:50.680 --> 1:38:53.240 like four months later, Talor gets pregnant and so we 1:38:53.240 --> 1:38:54.960 were gonna get we were going to get married like 1:38:55.000 --> 1:38:56.960 that summer, but ended up like, hey, well just or 1:38:57.000 --> 1:38:58.080 the next summer, but we. 1:38:58.000 --> 1:39:00.160 Had to wait. My daughter was born two days before. 1:39:00.160 --> 1:39:02.040 We were like thought about getting married in front of everybody, 1:39:02.200 --> 1:39:04.920 so you know, people are more comfortable with it, and 1:39:04.960 --> 1:39:07.920 that took a little longer, and Will was Will and 1:39:07.960 --> 1:39:10.040 I met like in a short amount of time and 1:39:10.120 --> 1:39:12.439 ended up coming to the wedding and we there was 1:39:12.560 --> 1:39:14.439 that's when Richie was Taylor proposed to me in five 1:39:14.479 --> 1:39:16.400 weeks two. Yeah, it was very fast. It was a 1:39:16.479 --> 1:39:19.320 very fast relationship for us. But that's when a lot 1:39:19.360 --> 1:39:21.000 of Richie stuff was really at the fort. He was 1:39:21.040 --> 1:39:22.840 going to be a groomsman of my wedding, and it 1:39:23.040 --> 1:39:25.840 just where he was at and like how it turned out, 1:39:25.840 --> 1:39:28.200 it wasn't able to happen, but he had quite the 1:39:28.240 --> 1:39:30.559 experience of being with Richie Good good. 1:39:30.439 --> 1:39:32.519 First experience with Richie and cognit you know, all the 1:39:32.520 --> 1:39:34.880 stories because he was a Nebraska guy right who got 1:39:34.960 --> 1:39:37.160 kicked out and then went to Oregon. Uh so I've 1:39:37.200 --> 1:39:39.240 heard stories about Richie, about this dude, and then you 1:39:39.320 --> 1:39:42.000 see this stuff in Miami and I felt his fucking 1:39:42.040 --> 1:39:43.599 hands when we played at Buffalo. 1:39:44.000 --> 1:39:45.599 I want to say. I bantered with him a little 1:39:45.600 --> 1:39:46.400 bit about it. 1:39:46.520 --> 1:39:49.080 And you know, we had an exchange, and you know, 1:39:49.120 --> 1:39:51.519 I was a little nervous being around the guy. And 1:39:51.520 --> 1:39:53.760 then he was like, oh, we're brothers because Nebraska, and 1:39:53.800 --> 1:39:55.040 I'm like, oh, thank god. 1:39:55.040 --> 1:39:57.639 Right, yeah, yeah, ground here. 1:39:57.720 --> 1:40:00.080 From the get go, him and I were like the 1:40:00.120 --> 1:40:02.960 minute we made So we played I think twenty fifteen, 1:40:03.040 --> 1:40:04.800 we played a week It was week four. We played 1:40:04.800 --> 1:40:07.599 the Bills and gay By Kurt was there, you know, Gabe, 1:40:07.960 --> 1:40:09.800 and he's like, hey, you got to meet this guy, Richie. 1:40:09.880 --> 1:40:11.360 Dude, like you guys would be best friends. 1:40:11.439 --> 1:40:13.000 We all went at dinner before the game and then 1:40:13.040 --> 1:40:15.760 we worked out that summer together. But even before that, 1:40:15.840 --> 1:40:19.280 in college, my my buddy Jordan Kovacs, he was a safety, 1:40:19.600 --> 1:40:21.639 white boy, try hard guy, walked on, ends up being 1:40:21.640 --> 1:40:24.640 a captain killing it, gets drafted to Miami Dolphins and 1:40:24.680 --> 1:40:26.599 he comes in town during his bie week and he's 1:40:26.600 --> 1:40:29.280 like dude, there's this guy there. I swear to god, 1:40:29.320 --> 1:40:31.040 you guys would be best friends, like brothers. His name 1:40:31.080 --> 1:40:34.040 is Richie Incognito. I'm like, fuck, yeah, dude, whatever, don't 1:40:34.040 --> 1:40:35.880 think much of it. Like a week later, the Jonathan 1:40:35.920 --> 1:40:40.560 Martin stuff come out, I'm like, oh, oh, that's what 1:40:40.640 --> 1:40:44.960 you think about me? Yeah, okay, I might need to 1:40:45.000 --> 1:40:47.000 check myself a little bit. Yeah, no doubt man, it 1:40:47.040 --> 1:40:50.160 was wild times then too. I really hope he gets 1:40:50.200 --> 1:40:51.840 an opportunity to tell his entire story. 1:40:51.920 --> 1:40:52.120 Yeah. 1:40:52.200 --> 1:40:54.360 I think he will, and we have an incredible platform 1:40:54.439 --> 1:40:54.720 to do. 1:40:54.640 --> 1:40:56.040 That on too. Yeah, I mean I would. 1:40:56.160 --> 1:40:57.680 I would love to have him on. I think I 1:40:57.720 --> 1:40:59.760 think it'd be very cool to heart over that. 1:41:00.040 --> 1:41:00.639 And I'm just kidding. 1:41:00.720 --> 1:41:04.880 Yeah yeah, we'll do a joint one and then release. 1:41:04.560 --> 1:41:06.519 Its one with the boys. Then can both be on. 1:41:06.640 --> 1:41:10.519 Yeah yeah, perfect, perfect, Yeah that sounds great. No, but 1:41:10.640 --> 1:41:14.920 like there were times in Buffalo so like Richie when 1:41:14.960 --> 1:41:17.240 he's in his great headspace and all that, like he 1:41:17.400 --> 1:41:20.920 still specializes in cross the line humor like period, like 1:41:21.000 --> 1:41:22.880 that's he's hysterical to be around. 1:41:23.000 --> 1:41:26.120 Mouth hugs, He's fucking hilarious. Gosh. 1:41:26.760 --> 1:41:28.600 You know that was back when the media could come 1:41:28.640 --> 1:41:31.439 into the locker room all the time, and I'd be like, Richie, 1:41:31.880 --> 1:41:35.000 like someone's going to report something you said and it's 1:41:35.040 --> 1:41:36.519 gonna get taken way out of context. 1:41:36.560 --> 1:41:38.720 And he'd be like, yeah. I'd be like good, right, 1:41:38.800 --> 1:41:41.880 what would I say? Good Richie? Good Richie. He'd be like, 1:41:41.960 --> 1:41:43.880 I got you, I got you. Yeah, he'd be like 1:41:43.920 --> 1:41:44.320 he'd be like. 1:41:44.760 --> 1:41:50.040 Real men, yeah, the best, but he would like be 1:41:50.120 --> 1:41:53.439 yelling crap across the locker room, like making fun of 1:41:53.920 --> 1:41:56.240 Zay Jones was like who that one of our rookies 1:41:56.280 --> 1:41:56.599 at the time. 1:41:56.600 --> 1:41:57.840 He was always picking on to day. 1:41:58.840 --> 1:42:01.960 Yeah, And I'm like, people don't know that you guys 1:42:01.960 --> 1:42:04.559 are friends, right, Like people don't know that you actually 1:42:04.600 --> 1:42:07.800 like him, and they're gonna say something again like you've 1:42:07.840 --> 1:42:08.519 got to chill. 1:42:09.040 --> 1:42:10.880 Buffalo was cool enough never to do it, though. 1:42:11.479 --> 1:42:14.360 It's cool, dude. Everything you're saying is the story With 1:42:14.439 --> 1:42:16.360 Jonathan Martin. I just I really want him to be 1:42:16.400 --> 1:42:18.720 able to tell his piece. You really want that to 1:42:18.760 --> 1:42:21.400 be able to happen. Great man, he'd be outstanding. 1:42:21.520 --> 1:42:23.519 I think it would be a very interesting, too dynamic 1:42:23.640 --> 1:42:26.439 if obviously we were joking about it, but if we 1:42:26.439 --> 1:42:28.479 were all sitting together kind of just talking like we've 1:42:28.479 --> 1:42:30.519 all you met him in a different part, you met 1:42:30.600 --> 1:42:32.400 him in a different part. I kind of met him 1:42:32.400 --> 1:42:35.240 in a different part. Like if you're just talking through everything, 1:42:35.280 --> 1:42:37.040 I think it'd be really fascinating. 1:42:37.200 --> 1:42:38.439 Yeah, no doubt about him. 1:42:38.479 --> 1:42:41.160 It'd be outstanding about him and Fitzpatrick both draft in 1:42:41.200 --> 1:42:45.360 the same year to Saint Louis, and that was you know, 1:42:45.800 --> 1:42:47.519 last year could have been both their last year's. 1:42:48.120 --> 1:42:50.439 They're what thirty eight and thirty nine years older? Yeah, 1:42:50.479 --> 1:42:51.160 they're old boys. 1:42:51.240 --> 1:42:53.759 Like that's wild that both of them, Like the Rams 1:42:53.800 --> 1:42:56.080 stunk for so long, but like those dudes end up 1:42:56.080 --> 1:42:57.320 playing sixteen seventeen years. 1:42:57.360 --> 1:42:57.760 That's why. 1:42:58.000 --> 1:42:59.680 Yeah, what I wanted to ask about too, when you 1:42:59.680 --> 1:43:01.760 were talking about the Fitzpatrick and he signed the five 1:43:01.840 --> 1:43:04.320 year deal and then he played through broken ribs and 1:43:04.360 --> 1:43:07.479 stuff like that. Is that something that you know him 1:43:07.479 --> 1:43:09.120 well and you see it from the outside looking in 1:43:09.160 --> 1:43:11.320 when you see whe of your boys go, you're like, fuck, man, like, 1:43:11.560 --> 1:43:13.840 why don't why doesn't the organization see that he was 1:43:13.880 --> 1:43:18.240 honorable enough to like play with broken ribs? Right, It's uh, 1:43:18.360 --> 1:43:20.240 it wasn't one of those things when he gets when 1:43:20.280 --> 1:43:23.439 he gets cut or released or whatever that he probably 1:43:23.479 --> 1:43:24.240 looks back on him back. 1:43:24.280 --> 1:43:25.439 Yeah, you just shouldn't play hurt. 1:43:26.360 --> 1:43:28.720 Maybe, But we talked about early on what everyone loves 1:43:28.760 --> 1:43:30.760 Fitzpatrick so much. He's got no ego, Like he would 1:43:30.800 --> 1:43:32.799 be like, no, I'd lay on my line from my teammates. 1:43:32.840 --> 1:43:34.320 I could go out there and play. But like he 1:43:34.320 --> 1:43:36.360 would scramble on a play and come back in the 1:43:36.439 --> 1:43:37.800 huddle and not even be able to call the play 1:43:37.800 --> 1:43:40.559 call because like he was hurting so bad and he's like, 1:43:40.920 --> 1:43:42.000 can't even get through a throw. 1:43:42.200 --> 1:43:44.720 We started that year five and two. They give him 1:43:44.720 --> 1:43:45.599 a contract extension. 1:43:45.600 --> 1:43:48.080 Our two losses were at Cincinnati, last second field goal, 1:43:48.120 --> 1:43:50.920 they were playoff team, at the Giants, last second field goal. 1:43:51.000 --> 1:43:53.200 They win the Super Bowl. M hm, you know we're 1:43:53.240 --> 1:43:57.000 five and two, we're in it. I tear my cl 1:43:57.080 --> 1:43:59.599 Fred Jackson broke his fibula. 1:44:00.080 --> 1:44:02.080 He's a stun Yeah, no doubt about it. 1:44:02.320 --> 1:44:04.920 And then fitz breaks his ribs and we kind of 1:44:05.000 --> 1:44:05.599 dwindled off. 1:44:05.640 --> 1:44:08.320 It's crazy interesting just derail a team like that, especially when. 1:44:08.160 --> 1:44:12.080 Don't have well quarterbacks. Quarterbacks especially and then if you 1:44:12.080 --> 1:44:14.479 don't have depth. Yeah, like if you don't have depth, 1:44:14.520 --> 1:44:15.519 you're just done. 1:44:15.600 --> 1:44:17.840 One more thing about Fits is he always seemed like 1:44:17.840 --> 1:44:19.719 the dude when he'd come in his first four games 1:44:19.760 --> 1:44:23.680 where MVP type stuff, and then something would happen. I'm 1:44:23.720 --> 1:44:25.920 not sure what it was. He'd go from like throwing 1:44:26.000 --> 1:44:29.040 like crazy numbers to three picks yep, what do you 1:44:29.080 --> 1:44:30.320 what do you think I tested to that? 1:44:32.280 --> 1:44:35.759 So he would have these really hot stretches because Fits 1:44:35.800 --> 1:44:39.320 is so smart here prereads defenses and he's willing to 1:44:39.320 --> 1:44:42.120 give his guy like receivers love him because he'll be like, 1:44:42.120 --> 1:44:44.120 when you have this matchup, the ball is coming to you, 1:44:44.479 --> 1:44:46.680 don't let me throw a pick, but like I'm just 1:44:46.720 --> 1:44:48.559 gonna throw it up to you, like when you get 1:44:48.560 --> 1:44:50.680 this dude on you or you know, he's just he 1:44:50.800 --> 1:44:53.960 trusts a lot of guys. Well, you know, I'll throw 1:44:54.000 --> 1:44:56.200 a pick here, you know, So he can get really, 1:44:56.280 --> 1:44:59.160 really really hot because he's an absolute gun slinger. But 1:44:59.320 --> 1:45:02.760 like there were times like I was on rexs when 1:45:02.800 --> 1:45:05.000 Rex was with the Bills, He's like, I know that 1:45:05.120 --> 1:45:08.720 when Fits sees this blitz, like this is where his 1:45:08.880 --> 1:45:10.880 reads Like mentally as a quarterback, this is where you 1:45:10.920 --> 1:45:12.679 have to go. We're gonna trap him, and I don't 1:45:12.760 --> 1:45:14.840 remember if it exactly worked out. But it's like that's 1:45:14.840 --> 1:45:17.759 how defenses are looking at fits, like, yeah, he's so smart, 1:45:17.800 --> 1:45:19.920 he's going to see this, so can we get him 1:45:19.920 --> 1:45:21.519 to go over here? But he can just get so 1:45:21.600 --> 1:45:23.880 hot because he's given guys chances. He's throwing jump balls, 1:45:24.120 --> 1:45:26.519 and then he goes to uh Tampa and he's got 1:45:26.520 --> 1:45:28.439 Mike Evans and Shaun Jackson on the outside. 1:45:28.439 --> 1:45:30.839 That's when he showed up in the chains and all that. Hious. 1:45:30.960 --> 1:45:32.720 I'm watching that game. That's the year I was out 1:45:32.720 --> 1:45:35.080 of the league, and I'm watching that game from home. 1:45:35.120 --> 1:45:37.120 He texted me before he goes to press conference in 1:45:37.200 --> 1:45:39.600 that outfit, he goes, should I do it? I'm like, absolutely, 1:45:41.680 --> 1:45:44.960 your personality hit. Let's go into Shan Jackson standing over 1:45:44.960 --> 1:45:46.479 there with those shirt on, waiting for him to give 1:45:46.520 --> 1:45:49.160 him back his chains and his glasses and his shirt. 1:45:48.920 --> 1:45:49.679 And all that funny. 1:45:49.680 --> 1:45:53.280 But I think part of the reason is he's just 1:45:53.320 --> 1:45:55.120 giving guys chances out there. He's trying to throw a 1:45:55.120 --> 1:45:57.679 whole shots and cover two and then it can go quick. 1:45:57.800 --> 1:46:01.000 You know, those turnovers and just happened in her damn 1:46:01.760 --> 1:46:02.519 d he was a stuff. 1:46:02.600 --> 1:46:04.719 And then he also this is one of the things 1:46:04.800 --> 1:46:06.720 we've talked about this at LANK. We actually talked about 1:46:06.720 --> 1:46:09.400 this on my podcast last year because I would always like, 1:46:09.439 --> 1:46:11.720 we'd be down twenty one points and Fitz would then 1:46:11.720 --> 1:46:13.519 go throw another two picks trying to get us back 1:46:13.560 --> 1:46:16.799 in the game, and I'm like, bro, quit throwing interception 1:46:16.840 --> 1:46:18.599 because at the end of the year, they're gonna be like, well, 1:46:18.600 --> 1:46:22.120 Fits had eighteen touchdowns and twenty interceptions. I'm like, and 1:46:22.160 --> 1:46:24.760 Fitz is like, I don't give a crap, Like I 1:46:24.800 --> 1:46:27.599 don't care at all about that, really care what they say. 1:46:27.640 --> 1:46:29.599 I don't care about the picks, Like I'm trying to 1:46:29.680 --> 1:46:31.720 fight back and win this game. All I care about 1:46:31.800 --> 1:46:33.840 is what you guys think. And You're like, I respect that, 1:46:34.000 --> 1:46:35.479 but I still want to play with you next year. 1:46:35.800 --> 1:46:38.479 And like you, if you have four games where you 1:46:38.479 --> 1:46:41.240 threw three picks, they don't care if they were late 1:46:41.240 --> 1:46:42.920 in the third quarter, they're gonna use it against. 1:46:42.680 --> 1:46:45.200 You, right. How's that of him being released from and 1:46:45.280 --> 1:46:46.559 EJ was EJ Manual? 1:46:46.760 --> 1:46:49.360 Yeah, I love EJ. But like they painted, they put 1:46:49.360 --> 1:46:51.320 themselves in the corner. They released Fits and then they 1:46:51.320 --> 1:46:53.800 have to draft a quarterback. And that was the year 1:46:55.400 --> 1:46:57.960 you know EJ was sixteenth overall. That was like he 1:46:58.040 --> 1:46:59.880 was the only first round quarterback that year. 1:47:00.160 --> 1:47:00.439 Yeah. 1:47:01.040 --> 1:47:04.639 Yeah, toughier for QBS, tougher for wo word the who 1:47:04.640 --> 1:47:07.960 would you say your five best Buffalo bills you've played with? 1:47:08.280 --> 1:47:10.720 Is this tear talk? No, I'm just asking. 1:47:10.720 --> 1:47:12.360 Five best Buffalo bills I played with? 1:47:12.640 --> 1:47:13.320 Things about beer? 1:47:14.120 --> 1:47:14.320 Is it? 1:47:14.439 --> 1:47:14.799 Yeah? 1:47:15.040 --> 1:47:19.280 Kyle Williams one God, what a stud I know, ye, 1:47:20.160 --> 1:47:21.120 butcher knives he was in. 1:47:21.320 --> 1:47:23.000 If he was in a bigger market, he would be 1:47:23.080 --> 1:47:26.240 JJ Watt and all that. Yeah, you know, better than 1:47:26.320 --> 1:47:30.560 J Watt because he's awesome, Right, you said it. I agree. 1:47:32.360 --> 1:47:35.479 JJ's tweet today. I just read tweeted that always try 1:47:35.520 --> 1:47:37.120 to steal my ship. I can't believe he's been reading 1:47:37.120 --> 1:47:37.720 your tweets like this. 1:47:37.880 --> 1:47:41.880 That's crazy. J's on my ass. Yeah. 1:47:42.040 --> 1:47:43.960 JJ robbed me wrong one time because Fits had to 1:47:44.040 --> 1:47:45.679 leave a golf game out in Arizona to go film 1:47:45.720 --> 1:47:49.320 something with Zach Brown and JJ Watt, and they cut. 1:47:49.120 --> 1:47:49.920 Fits out of it. 1:47:49.960 --> 1:47:52.040 When we went to the concert that night, and I 1:47:52.080 --> 1:47:55.559 was like down front, really drunk, like if you guys 1:47:55.640 --> 1:47:58.639 like like JJ tolten ship. 1:47:58.880 --> 1:48:01.479 Yeah, So why did why would JJ rub your. 1:48:01.320 --> 1:48:03.640 On in that scenario. I thought he had something to 1:48:03.640 --> 1:48:06.400 do with it. He probably did, But JJ is just 1:48:06.439 --> 1:48:08.680 such a me guy. He's such a me guy. I 1:48:08.760 --> 1:48:10.200 might have heard about you guys talking about it on 1:48:10.240 --> 1:48:12.360 the podcast before, but like you could tell he's such 1:48:12.400 --> 1:48:14.760 a me guy because they can't even run blitzes in 1:48:14.840 --> 1:48:17.080 Houston because they got to let him do whatever he wants, 1:48:17.080 --> 1:48:18.680 and then all the linebackers got to play off of him, 1:48:18.720 --> 1:48:20.920 like like we would go in and gash Houston, like 1:48:20.960 --> 1:48:22.760 he might have three tackles for loss and we'd have 1:48:22.760 --> 1:48:25.559 one hundred and seventy rush yards because like he's blowing 1:48:25.640 --> 1:48:26.320 like three. 1:48:26.160 --> 1:48:28.479 Gaps at a time, and he hasn't played real defense. Nope. 1:48:28.520 --> 1:48:30.400 And if and if, like you can send a guy 1:48:30.400 --> 1:48:32.240 back to cut him, well, he'll jump way out of 1:48:32.240 --> 1:48:32.599 the way. 1:48:33.000 --> 1:48:34.400 And so now he's complete out the way. 1:48:34.400 --> 1:48:36.840 Now you're running inside zone and there's like literally just 1:48:36.880 --> 1:48:39.040 a gaping hole on the backside because he jumped out 1:48:39.080 --> 1:48:39.400 of the way. 1:48:39.560 --> 1:48:42.320 No, I don't I haven't liked him from the second 1:48:42.479 --> 1:48:43.240 Devil's Advocate. 1:48:43.280 --> 1:48:46.679 He's a phenomenal, phenomenal football player, player, great player. 1:48:46.800 --> 1:48:50.559 Don't like him bleeding and taking his helmet off for 1:48:50.600 --> 1:48:51.479 sure was that. 1:48:52.560 --> 1:48:55.240 I'll tell you who the real hero was of that 1:48:55.479 --> 1:49:00.200 Houston defense was Cushing. Yeah, the real hero stud he 1:49:00.240 --> 1:49:01.560 his fans man. 1:49:01.479 --> 1:49:03.400 Dude he had he did a pot with on Brian 1:49:03.400 --> 1:49:04.560 Peters's podcast. 1:49:04.640 --> 1:49:07.160 Yeah, it's pretty badass, is it. Yeah, it's pretty cool. 1:49:07.200 --> 1:49:08.599 He's like one of those dudes. You're just like, hey, 1:49:08.840 --> 1:49:10.639 this is a fucking boy. You know what I'm saying. 1:49:10.920 --> 1:49:14.280 We uh he came on a visits Louisville, and uh, 1:49:14.680 --> 1:49:15.920 we got him. I don't I don't know that he 1:49:16.000 --> 1:49:17.559 drank a whole lot in high school, but he drank 1:49:17.560 --> 1:49:19.680 on his Louisville visit and he turned up. 1:49:20.560 --> 1:49:20.920 Oh love. 1:49:20.960 --> 1:49:23.639 That's in New Jersey cane and those dudes are fucking crazy. Yeah, 1:49:23.800 --> 1:49:26.560 he's a DeFranco boy. He's like a Joe DeFranco's like 1:49:26.600 --> 1:49:29.120 a trainer, a well known trainer out in the Northeast. 1:49:31.280 --> 1:49:33.080 He ran in that dude's face with that helmet on, 1:49:33.280 --> 1:49:36.679 fitted a photoshop of his face on Cushing's body. 1:49:36.720 --> 1:49:40.280 But it's like a perfect photoshop. Yeah, that's it's hilarious. 1:49:40.320 --> 1:49:43.360 Fishing fits really like that. That's hilarious. 1:49:43.400 --> 1:49:46.720 So Kyle Williams, Kyle Williams, I mean I played one 1:49:46.760 --> 1:49:48.439 year with t O He's a Hall of Famer. 1:49:48.840 --> 1:49:53.360 Shady was a stud, chased, smart dude. He didn't give 1:49:53.360 --> 1:49:54.479 a fuck about Pro Bowls or nothing. 1:49:54.560 --> 1:49:54.720 Huh. 1:49:54.800 --> 1:49:56.200 Richie was telling me that he made the Pro Bowl. 1:49:56.200 --> 1:49:58.720 He's like congrats. In the locker room, She'd be like, man, 1:49:58.760 --> 1:49:59.760 I'm give a fuck about that. 1:50:00.840 --> 1:50:05.040 He wants to win games and and he wants to 1:50:05.040 --> 1:50:09.519 show out on Sundays. Yeah, and like he's so smart 1:50:09.680 --> 1:50:11.880 it's unbelievable. Like he could sit there on his phone 1:50:11.880 --> 1:50:14.400 and meetings. He knows everything going on. He'll never mess 1:50:14.400 --> 1:50:17.360 something up. And one time, I like, I built a 1:50:17.360 --> 1:50:18.920 lot of trust with Shady when I did this, and 1:50:18.960 --> 1:50:22.240 we've stayed close buddies. But he, uh, he was on 1:50:22.280 --> 1:50:24.120 his phone one day. Well, one of the coaches said 1:50:24.120 --> 1:50:26.439 something to one of the running backs and he was like, 1:50:26.560 --> 1:50:29.479 well I thought we could, and like pointed over at 1:50:29.479 --> 1:50:32.519 Shady and I was like, shut your mouth, rookie, Like 1:50:32.760 --> 1:50:34.560 that dude's been in the league. That dude would be 1:50:34.560 --> 1:50:38.200 a Hall of Famer potentially, Like you've done nothing for us. 1:50:38.360 --> 1:50:41.879 I was like, I just went off on you. Oh yeah, 1:50:41.920 --> 1:50:43.719 that's crazy. Shit was on his phone on a meeting 1:50:43.760 --> 1:50:47.280 that's yeah, he was like that. 1:50:47.520 --> 1:50:50.720 It's always it was always incredible to him. 1:50:52.120 --> 1:50:54.040 Bless you man. 1:50:54.080 --> 1:50:55.720 It's hard to say because you know, he wins two 1:50:55.720 --> 1:50:57.160 Super Bowls at the end of his career, but he 1:50:57.200 --> 1:50:59.639 wasn't active for either of the Super Bowls. It'll be close, 1:51:00.080 --> 1:51:03.120 be a really close call. But Shay was an absolute stud. 1:51:03.360 --> 1:51:05.120 Was incredible. I could just carry the ball like that, 1:51:05.280 --> 1:51:05.879 never fumble. 1:51:06.080 --> 1:51:08.360 I know, he carried it like he was like you 1:51:08.400 --> 1:51:10.080 know how, you know how all the coaches are like, oh, 1:51:10.120 --> 1:51:11.920 he's a fumbler. Still they're showing tape. But if they 1:51:11.920 --> 1:51:14.080 haven't fumbled like Shady and they carry he's a fumbler. 1:51:14.080 --> 1:51:15.559 He just doesn't know it yet and he's just carrying 1:51:15.560 --> 1:51:16.439 it out to the side. 1:51:16.360 --> 1:51:18.800 That man never fumbled. He holds it like who was 1:51:18.840 --> 1:51:21.520 the dude in the longest yard Nelly. Yeah. 1:51:23.160 --> 1:51:25.880 The amount of fumbles per carry over the ten year 1:51:25.920 --> 1:51:28.680 stretch he played, that's that crazy crazy up to a 1:51:28.680 --> 1:51:29.800 certain amount of carries or whatever. 1:51:29.920 --> 1:51:33.840 But ball Leshaun McCoy. 1:51:33.880 --> 1:51:37.240 Fred Jackson, Fred Jackson might be Jackson. I mean Fred 1:51:37.320 --> 1:51:39.040 Jackson is one of my favorite teamates of all time. 1:51:39.160 --> 1:51:41.840 Just absolute stud. 1:51:42.479 --> 1:51:42.759 Shoot. 1:51:42.800 --> 1:51:45.439 Who would be the last one who do I played 1:51:45.439 --> 1:51:47.640 with towards the end like Tredavious White. He was a 1:51:47.680 --> 1:51:50.560 rookie my last year, absolute stud him. 1:51:50.880 --> 1:51:53.240 Yeah, he's a monster leaving somebody out. Richie, I mean 1:51:53.320 --> 1:51:56.280 Richie really really good player. You know which he's on? 1:51:56.320 --> 1:51:59.000 Which he is? Play with the what's his name is it? 1:51:59.080 --> 1:52:00.439 Lee Smith? Smith? 1:52:00.560 --> 1:52:03.679 Loved that dude. You guys the stories about Lee Smith. 1:52:03.840 --> 1:52:05.720 We who doesn't any time I go to the locker room, 1:52:05.760 --> 1:52:07.720 they played with me. Lee Smith is guy I don't 1:52:07.760 --> 1:52:08.400 know even know who. 1:52:09.800 --> 1:52:12.160 Smiths? Just like old school throwback tight end. 1:52:13.080 --> 1:52:16.760 He's in Tennessee, right, Yeah, he's in Knoxville. 1:52:16.840 --> 1:52:18.840 I'm telling you I've heard he's got. He played last 1:52:18.880 --> 1:52:20.880 year for the Falcons. Here's how loved Lee is. Like. 1:52:21.080 --> 1:52:23.320 Last year was gonna be Lee's last game. So we 1:52:23.439 --> 1:52:26.479 do a dinner before the Falcons Bills game last year 1:52:26.600 --> 1:52:29.400 night before the game. It's like a private little deals 1:52:29.400 --> 1:52:32.680 this Italian spot up in Buffalo, Your Italian spot, my 1:52:32.760 --> 1:52:35.280 second Italian spot. I got you, not too loyal? 1:52:35.800 --> 1:52:36.760 How's the family doing? 1:52:37.080 --> 1:52:41.800 But but Arthur Smith shows up their GM Uh both 1:52:41.800 --> 1:52:47.719 starting quarterbacks, legendary head coach. Oh he's awesome. Uh, Kyle Pitts, Beasley, Knox. 1:52:47.840 --> 1:52:51.880 I mean literally it was like a Pro Bowl and 1:52:51.960 --> 1:52:55.040 coaching staff like meeting at this Italian spot the night 1:52:55.080 --> 1:52:57.080 before the game, all for Lee and it was just 1:52:57.120 --> 1:52:59.880 like the coolest environment, you know, like for me. 1:53:00.800 --> 1:53:02.640 I had one of my buddies with me from Louisville 1:53:02.960 --> 1:53:03.320 who was. 1:53:03.240 --> 1:53:05.080 In town for the game last year, and we left 1:53:05.080 --> 1:53:06.360 and I was like, man, that night was good for 1:53:06.439 --> 1:53:08.360 my soul, like just to be around like a bunch 1:53:08.360 --> 1:53:10.960 of dudes talking ball and like no one you know, 1:53:11.080 --> 1:53:13.120 like a bunch of dudes from both teams just talking 1:53:13.160 --> 1:53:14.080 ball night before the game. 1:53:14.120 --> 1:53:15.880 I was like, man, I missed that crap. But but 1:53:15.960 --> 1:53:17.080 Lee is an animal. 1:53:17.120 --> 1:53:19.880 But we we found out early on that like we're 1:53:19.880 --> 1:53:21.880 cut a little too much from the same cloth, Like 1:53:21.880 --> 1:53:25.080 we both have that like go Jean and we had 1:53:25.120 --> 1:53:27.519 one really late night together and the next day, this 1:53:27.640 --> 1:53:28.240 was during the spring. 1:53:28.320 --> 1:53:31.040 We're like, I don't think we can hang out that often, Bud. 1:53:30.800 --> 1:53:33.599 Like, yeah, we really, we're like super close still this day. 1:53:34.720 --> 1:53:36.600 But uh, I was like, man, we got to be 1:53:36.680 --> 1:53:40.200 really careful, like because we both have that. Like so 1:53:41.160 --> 1:53:43.280 I think I think both of I think everyone knows 1:53:43.320 --> 1:53:46.000 about this in both of our households, we get really drunk. 1:53:46.000 --> 1:53:47.200 One night, Lee spends the night in my house. 1:53:47.200 --> 1:53:48.640 I wake up in the morning I can't find my 1:53:48.720 --> 1:53:50.880 phone and like, I don't care how drunk I get like, 1:53:50.880 --> 1:53:52.400 I'm gonna plug my phone in next to the bed 1:53:52.439 --> 1:53:54.400 and go to sleep. Wake up, it's not there. I'm like, 1:53:54.400 --> 1:53:56.040 where the hell's my phone. I'm looking all over for it. 1:53:56.080 --> 1:53:58.800 I look under my bed and it's like in the 1:53:58.840 --> 1:54:01.040 middle of the front. Well, I have to like move 1:54:01.080 --> 1:54:02.840 the whole bedframe. It's not like you can just lift 1:54:02.880 --> 1:54:05.479 it up as soon as so it's dead as soon 1:54:05.520 --> 1:54:07.120 as I plug it in. My mom's calling. It's like 1:54:07.200 --> 1:54:09.200 nine thirty in the morning. I was like, what the 1:54:09.240 --> 1:54:11.280 hell is going on? I was calling. She goes, are 1:54:11.280 --> 1:54:14.000 you okay? And I go, yeah, why he goes Lee Smith? 1:54:14.160 --> 1:54:17.000 She goes Lee Smith called me at four o'clock in 1:54:17.040 --> 1:54:20.040 the morning to tell me that you guys got overserved, 1:54:20.120 --> 1:54:23.599 but everyone's okay, and oh my, my mom stays up 1:54:23.640 --> 1:54:26.800 all night just dialing me over and over and over. 1:54:27.240 --> 1:54:29.960 And he said he he has his. 1:54:29.840 --> 1:54:32.640 Wife saying in his phone as like Mama, he thought 1:54:32.680 --> 1:54:33.560 he was calling Leslie. 1:54:33.600 --> 1:54:35.360 I was like, well, why the hell would you call Leslie. 1:54:35.600 --> 1:54:39.640 Yeah, why would you do that? Oh my god? Yeah, 1:54:40.440 --> 1:54:41.920 Lisa is this guy? Wait? 1:54:42.040 --> 1:54:44.720 How long was his career? He just retired, but how 1:54:44.760 --> 1:54:47.800 long years or something of yours? Blocking tight end. Oh 1:54:47.840 --> 1:54:49.400 it's just a grinder, Yeah, just a grinder. 1:54:49.440 --> 1:54:51.120 But I hear just all time stories like around the 1:54:51.120 --> 1:54:55.600 building around yeah, groom, everybody walking, legend gyboy. We'll let 1:54:55.640 --> 1:54:57.440 him tell. We'll let him tell his tales. He can 1:54:57.480 --> 1:54:58.879 come on. Yeah, he's invited. 1:54:58.960 --> 1:55:02.640 Shall we do the tears talk? So we're gonna transition 1:55:02.720 --> 1:55:05.160 into a segment we called tier talk. We get a 1:55:05.360 --> 1:55:08.400 I think it's beers we talk. We're talking beers. We're 1:55:08.400 --> 1:55:09.840 gonna have all these beers in front of us, and 1:55:09.840 --> 1:55:11.840 we're gonna we're gonna rate them whether we want to 1:55:11.840 --> 1:55:14.839 put them in a tier one category, tier two, tier three. 1:55:15.240 --> 1:55:16.600 You don't have the best beer on, you don't have 1:55:16.600 --> 1:55:19.520 miller light on there? Oh wow yeah what. 1:55:21.200 --> 1:55:24.160 Oh it's just a it's a guideline. Now, okay, so 1:55:24.160 --> 1:55:26.919 we see the beer, so we know beers. I say, bluss, 1:55:27.200 --> 1:55:30.200 I'm a miller like a second blue light. But it's 1:55:30.200 --> 1:55:33.320 all good. Your your Miller light like a top tier 1:55:33.600 --> 1:55:37.280 Miller Light's like my favorite drinking light beer got you, 1:55:37.480 --> 1:55:39.560 But I'm not having one. If I'm like only having one, 1:55:39.680 --> 1:55:41.080 I'm having one. If we're having like. 1:55:41.120 --> 1:55:46.120 Ten, Yeah, I'm butt heavy all the way? Is my bro? 1:55:47.160 --> 1:55:49.280 Is that just as the logo or that's just like 1:55:49.360 --> 1:55:52.480 how you roll both? I guess. I mean they do 1:55:52.520 --> 1:55:53.360 a great job branding. 1:55:53.360 --> 1:55:55.960 They've obviously got me sold as a as a as 1:55:55.960 --> 1:55:56.640 an all in fan. 1:55:56.720 --> 1:55:59.640 But but heavy is like my favorite go to vacation beer. 1:56:00.320 --> 1:56:01.960 Corona Light. Yeah. 1:56:02.080 --> 1:56:04.880 See, I like sometimes it's just got that skunk, It's 1:56:04.880 --> 1:56:06.320 got that skunk pot. 1:56:07.280 --> 1:56:10.040 It's not a bad deal. What about you? 1:56:10.520 --> 1:56:12.920 Then that my number one tier one? Yeah, it's got 1:56:12.920 --> 1:56:16.680 to be bud Light. Uh, I'm sponsored. 1:56:16.200 --> 1:56:17.160 Baby for me. 1:56:17.480 --> 1:56:20.120 That's that's pretty low down the list for me. Really Like, 1:56:20.240 --> 1:56:22.760 I think bud Light gives me a headache. Delicious Hams 1:56:22.800 --> 1:56:25.200 is my Tier two a close tier too, But but 1:56:25.400 --> 1:56:28.720 Light takes the cake from me, takes the cake. Yeah, 1:56:28.760 --> 1:56:31.280 bud Light three. I think Souls number three for me. 1:56:31.760 --> 1:56:35.000 I love Soul. I like michelob Ultra. 1:56:35.120 --> 1:56:38.240 Dude. Maybe that's that might not be a popular opinion, 1:56:38.280 --> 1:56:39.000 but I like me. 1:56:39.000 --> 1:56:39.160 And that. 1:56:41.440 --> 1:56:45.680 You know, I'm at a place that's Anheuser Busch. I'm 1:56:45.680 --> 1:56:49.120 going Mike Ultra over bud Light. That's okay, all right, 1:56:49.160 --> 1:56:49.680 sorry about this. 1:56:50.040 --> 1:56:52.880 Yeah, I mean one that's not on here that I 1:56:52.920 --> 1:56:55.960 love Blue Moon, Yeah with an orange slice. 1:56:56.120 --> 1:57:04.000 Yes, I like it. Yeah, I'm going so what so 1:57:04.080 --> 1:57:07.400 what your Tier one is one? Miller Tier two blue 1:57:07.480 --> 1:57:13.200 Light well bat blue uh? Tier three, I'm going Stella 1:57:13.880 --> 1:57:16.080 like for like having like one or two. Yeah, it 1:57:16.120 --> 1:57:18.240 pans out Miller High Life when I had those minis 1:57:18.240 --> 1:57:20.760 earlier today. Stella like I'm really giving away at the 1:57:20.760 --> 1:57:24.440 ariton down here, does it? 1:57:24.520 --> 1:57:28.160 Stella? Yep? Yeah? 1:57:28.200 --> 1:57:35.240 Four chrona light five Yinglinging is like a Winterer beer 1:57:35.280 --> 1:57:38.040 for me. It's like a winter beer, winter beer, like 1:57:38.040 --> 1:57:41.120 winter winter Golf, Winter Golf's beer, your go to drink. 1:57:42.160 --> 1:57:45.120 I like, I like crushes beers. Listen to him, I like, 1:57:45.440 --> 1:57:46.120 I like beer. 1:57:46.440 --> 1:57:49.480 We're tying one on if I but I'm not just 1:57:49.520 --> 1:57:52.360 having like one like if I'm doing that, you know 1:57:52.400 --> 1:57:53.680 in Kentucky it's like bourbon. 1:57:53.960 --> 1:57:56.040 But I've gotten into tequilas. 1:57:56.480 --> 1:57:58.720 I love to get the cleanest gets out of your 1:57:58.720 --> 1:58:02.080 system real quick, like clause azul is my favorites. 1:58:02.160 --> 1:58:04.160 Like I just bought a barrel of Yeah, is. 1:58:04.160 --> 1:58:05.560 That the one that dings at the top. It's a 1:58:05.600 --> 1:58:07.400 very nice but there's a lot of preservatives in it though. 1:58:07.680 --> 1:58:11.120 Really Yeah, that's what I was told in Cabo Wow. Yeah, 1:58:11.240 --> 1:58:12.640 one of the bartenders like, you can have this if 1:58:12.680 --> 1:58:14.080 you want. There's a lot of preserverves in this. 1:58:14.160 --> 1:58:15.480 What was he said? Nineteen forty two? 1:58:15.480 --> 1:58:18.480 He said, Tosa mikos. See I drink a lot of Yeah, 1:58:19.360 --> 1:58:20.800 like the best one to have apparently. 1:58:20.960 --> 1:58:22.640 Yeah, I was having last night. A lot of people 1:58:22.680 --> 1:58:23.240 do that. Have you had? 1:58:24.280 --> 1:58:27.640 We just had middle in on what's there's Instulidom their tequila. 1:58:27.920 --> 1:58:31.080 It's a really good tequila. They have three different kinds. 1:58:31.400 --> 1:58:33.560 And then Thomas Rhet has one too. I forget what 1:58:33.600 --> 1:58:34.200 it was called. 1:58:35.440 --> 1:58:39.400 George got one that everyone's like Lebron's got one that 1:58:39.400 --> 1:58:40.000 it's pretty good. 1:58:40.040 --> 1:58:46.600 Yeah tequila, Yeah, what's it called? You know? Almost man, 1:58:46.640 --> 1:58:49.440 I was there. What are your five tiers? 1:58:50.440 --> 1:58:54.760 My five tier would be bud Light Tier one, Tier 1:58:54.760 --> 1:58:58.400 two would be Hams Ham would be hams Light. Three 1:58:59.880 --> 1:59:04.520 is probably Soul for Corona, and then I do mess 1:59:04.560 --> 1:59:06.160 with the Sekis. 1:59:05.560 --> 1:59:08.840 But I like the Seki's amber is solid. See that's 1:59:08.840 --> 1:59:11.240 too dark. For me, I don't. I don't like that. 1:59:12.240 --> 1:59:15.640 I uh, the Sekis is solid, but I think I 1:59:15.760 --> 1:59:17.840 kind of like that blue Moon vibe. 1:59:18.040 --> 1:59:21.920 I like with the orange. But I'm not a huge 1:59:21.920 --> 1:59:22.400 beer guy. 1:59:22.600 --> 1:59:25.120 But I'm drinking tequila like I like ranch water, tequila 1:59:25.200 --> 1:59:26.080 water with lime juice. 1:59:26.280 --> 1:59:28.840 You are a big tequila Yeah, he's always a tequila guy. 1:59:28.920 --> 1:59:30.800 But one of my favorite things to drink for like, 1:59:31.680 --> 1:59:33.360 if I'm having like a cocktail or something like that. 1:59:33.440 --> 1:59:37.160 These things right here, This this whistle pig stuff is unreal. 1:59:37.440 --> 1:59:39.400 You put that over ice. It's really good. 1:59:40.120 --> 1:59:40.320 Is that? 1:59:40.600 --> 1:59:48.040 Where is that made? Mad Vermont? Okay, it's pretty No, 1:59:48.280 --> 1:59:50.200 it's it's it's really good. You chill that. You put 1:59:50.200 --> 1:59:52.040 that on on the rocks. It's really good. 1:59:52.720 --> 1:59:56.400 Person alcohol, it's good whiskey. It's a really good whiskey 1:59:56.400 --> 2:00:03.560 mixer drink. I'm going, uh but heavy, Oh really it's 2:00:03.600 --> 2:00:04.160 like that for you. 2:00:05.480 --> 2:00:05.879 Serious. 2:00:06.040 --> 2:00:10.720 My man's nostrils just had a fit. I'm gonna go 2:00:10.800 --> 2:00:18.880 butt heavy. Blue Moon, make a little Ultra cores Light? 2:00:22.200 --> 2:00:27.400 Say him again, Say him again? Yeah, but heavy? What 2:00:30.000 --> 2:00:34.520 Blue Moon? What make ultra? What Coors Light? 2:00:34.640 --> 2:00:34.720 What? 2:00:36.160 --> 2:00:37.080 Man? I don't know about this? 2:00:38.200 --> 2:00:44.640 Huh oh vacation. 2:00:47.240 --> 2:00:48.200 Tequila Sunrise. 2:00:52.320 --> 2:00:58.640 Then I'll say, uh, Natty Light man, Hey, that's bro 2:00:59.520 --> 2:01:03.320 Natty Light like it's it's hated on a lot, like 2:01:03.360 --> 2:01:04.640 people get chirped a lot for this. 2:01:04.880 --> 2:01:06.800 But if I'm at a local spot, I'm trying the 2:01:06.800 --> 2:01:09.040 local I p A s Yeah you know what I mean. 2:01:09.080 --> 2:01:10.760 I don't know what I p A stands for me, 2:01:10.880 --> 2:01:13.520 neither Indian pale ale. Yeah. I had to get that 2:01:13.560 --> 2:01:15.840 out there before Jack taught me. What are your what 2:01:15.840 --> 2:01:17.960 are your guys? Is? I know Jack, you guys talk 2:01:18.000 --> 2:01:27.920 about what I'm a Corse light guy. 2:01:28.120 --> 2:01:31.680 Number one two would probably be Modello love a good 2:01:31.760 --> 2:01:32.400 Mexican ale. 2:01:32.840 --> 2:01:36.000 Even throw Takat in there. What thek forgot about that? 2:01:36.600 --> 2:01:41.800 Land Sharks great on the beach. I do like, uh, 2:01:41.960 --> 2:01:44.480 the Sierra Nevada down there because I made this list, 2:01:44.520 --> 2:01:47.600 so I threw that one in there, and crazy I'm 2:01:47.600 --> 2:01:49.920 a big Mexican ale guy. Just that was a line 2:01:50.320 --> 2:01:51.800 just never doesn't do it for me. 2:01:53.000 --> 2:01:54.920 You with that, You're just not in your head. 2:01:55.880 --> 2:01:58.400 Yeah, it would probably be like a course banquet or 2:01:58.560 --> 2:01:59.320 a Mexican beer. 2:01:59.600 --> 2:02:02.880 That's about it. Got Yeah, what about you, you big 2:02:03.160 --> 2:02:11.840 Mexican ale guy. What's Hispanic. Yeah. Number one for me 2:02:11.880 --> 2:02:14.280 would probably be land shark yingling light. 2:02:16.640 --> 2:02:20.640 Do sekis Tata and uh Michaelobultra at the end. 2:02:21.400 --> 2:02:23.400 JP, you don't drink, but you can go ahead and 2:02:24.360 --> 2:02:25.720 it's your fir sotas JP. 2:02:27.400 --> 2:02:34.440 Number one, Oh duels number one duels bush light light 2:02:35.360 --> 2:02:40.440 like the Zeros Heineken Zeros cors edge, cores edge. 2:02:41.320 --> 2:02:42.200 You just keep giving him. 2:02:43.240 --> 2:02:44.960 I had a buddy that quit drinking recently, so I 2:02:45.000 --> 2:02:47.040 know all the an aviers. Yeah, when we hit to 2:02:47.040 --> 2:02:51.960 pick up a platinums, Uh, what is that extra alcohol? 2:02:51.960 --> 2:02:55.240 Don't that? Jn't know that though I didn't. 2:02:55.280 --> 2:02:59.880 You don't drink for real, just tequila, just tequila, man, Right, 2:03:00.000 --> 2:03:01.280 we got hammered in ann Arbor. 2:03:01.280 --> 2:03:06.120 What am I? Hey? JP got drunk and ann Arbor 2:03:06.160 --> 2:03:07.120 we did a little spring tour. 2:03:07.240 --> 2:03:09.960 Yeah, it was incredible and uh we got after he 2:03:10.080 --> 2:03:11.600 had was it a beer in your hand or a 2:03:11.760 --> 2:03:13.160 uh tequila? 2:03:14.040 --> 2:03:15.080 No tequila shots? 2:03:15.120 --> 2:03:17.720 It was no because oh yeah, because we give you 2:03:17.760 --> 2:03:20.480 one and we had always one. Yeah, there always be 2:03:20.480 --> 2:03:22.640 an extra. So we got after the Nebraska. We had 2:03:22.640 --> 2:03:24.240 a great We had a great time at all the spots. 2:03:24.400 --> 2:03:26.080 We didn't get to get after it in Tennessee just 2:03:26.080 --> 2:03:30.480 because there's a day trip. He said, Nebraska, what you're 2:03:30.480 --> 2:03:31.280 talking about Michigan. 2:03:32.200 --> 2:03:34.880 Uh, my fault, Tennessee. We didn't get to get after it. 2:03:35.080 --> 2:03:36.320 I'm saying, but you had it. You said we had 2:03:36.320 --> 2:03:37.840 a great time in Nebraska. You talking about Michigan and 2:03:37.920 --> 2:03:39.640 that we all went out right right right. But I'm saying, 2:03:39.960 --> 2:03:41.520 I'm just saying we got after it a little bit 2:03:41.520 --> 2:03:43.800 in Nebraska too. We're in Michigan. We have a great 2:03:43.800 --> 2:03:46.960 time in Michigan. Yeah, And uh, Taylor pulls me to 2:03:47.040 --> 2:03:49.240 the side. He's like, hey man, you know, I've been 2:03:49.240 --> 2:03:51.040 looking at JP like I think he got up on 2:03:51.120 --> 2:03:54.040 us last week, Like, yeah, we're all a little hungover JP. 2:03:54.560 --> 2:03:56.960 I think he was saucing every other shot. So we 2:03:57.000 --> 2:03:59.520 gotta get I do believe that we got to get 2:03:59.560 --> 2:04:01.400 him sucked up up and and I agreed with him. 2:04:01.440 --> 2:04:03.400 I'm like, yeah, bro, we gotta get JP sauce. 2:04:03.480 --> 2:04:03.640 Bro. 2:04:04.000 --> 2:04:06.920 So every time we order, every time we ordered drinks, 2:04:07.240 --> 2:04:09.880 there would be an extra shot and it would always 2:04:09.880 --> 2:04:12.879 be like, hey JP. And then we started j JP 2:04:13.480 --> 2:04:16.120 JB and I'm talking the bar was involved in everything, 2:04:16.160 --> 2:04:18.080 and yeah, just getting into. 2:04:18.000 --> 2:04:21.240 We got him slaughtered bro will take advantage of me 2:04:21.320 --> 2:04:24.400 later that night. Yeah, that's crazy. He wanted the left doors. 2:04:24.400 --> 2:04:25.720 I was like, you gotta work for these left doors. 2:04:25.800 --> 2:04:30.960 I'll come on in. Oh, dude, you got j That 2:04:31.040 --> 2:04:31.920 was a great time. 2:04:32.560 --> 2:04:34.560 Was so much to it was the past was fun too, 2:04:34.600 --> 2:04:37.040 but it was on spring break. Yeah, it would have 2:04:37.080 --> 2:04:38.040 been way more break. 2:04:38.440 --> 2:04:40.840 I've thrown shots on the floor in the bar before. 2:04:41.840 --> 2:04:43.600 I know where light beer is gonna take me. That's 2:04:43.600 --> 2:04:45.040 why I say, like going to a concertors to night, 2:04:45.120 --> 2:04:46.960 like I'll just drink light beer. I know is exactly 2:04:47.000 --> 2:04:48.840 where it's gonna take me. I know I'm not gonna 2:04:48.840 --> 2:04:50.800 make a fool of myself. And you get to a 2:04:50.800 --> 2:04:52.800 bar and ever you know you guys know like when 2:04:52.800 --> 2:04:54.320 you're playing ball and everyone's, oh, let me buy you 2:04:54.320 --> 2:04:56.600 a shot, and buffalo people love like it's all like 2:04:56.640 --> 2:04:58.640 a shoting beer, shotting a beer like. 2:05:00.360 --> 2:05:02.320 On the side, or you like hit him with the Ye, 2:05:02.560 --> 2:05:04.880 be clear. I never threw my shots on the ground. 2:05:04.880 --> 2:05:07.080 You lying like a rug on a rich man's floor. 2:05:07.080 --> 2:05:09.000 Tar their swift, you know. 2:05:11.120 --> 2:05:12.000 You for sure did. 2:05:12.200 --> 2:05:14.960 Yeah, he was doing something. He was babysitting drinks or something, 2:05:15.000 --> 2:05:16.240 because he was the heavyweight. 2:05:16.800 --> 2:05:23.000 Okay, he was running from bar to bar, running rinting 2:05:23.040 --> 2:05:27.400 Withers me. All the old lineman from Michigan came out 2:05:27.400 --> 2:05:28.960 with us. So we were all having a good time, 2:05:29.080 --> 2:05:31.640 like getting after it. And we were at this place 2:05:31.680 --> 2:05:34.120 called Scorekeepers, and we go to the Brown Jug, which 2:05:34.160 --> 2:05:34.440 is like. 2:05:34.440 --> 2:05:35.320 Two blocks away. 2:05:35.400 --> 2:05:37.960 He keeps us a blast and we go back to 2:05:37.960 --> 2:05:39.560 the Brown Jug and we're getting an uber and all 2:05:39.560 --> 2:05:42.720 of a sudden, we see JP fucking raining outside. He's 2:05:42.720 --> 2:05:45.400 fucking pretty another and someone goes, hey, who's got JP? 2:05:45.520 --> 2:05:47.880 And one of the old limono we got him and 2:05:47.960 --> 2:05:50.120 he fucking messed like three minutes after the car. 2:05:50.160 --> 2:05:52.040 Who got out of the car. We're getting rides home 2:05:52.080 --> 2:05:56.320 and he's taking like a little bike taxi. Hey he 2:05:56.560 --> 2:05:58.680 was acting a fool, dude. It was so much fun. 2:05:59.000 --> 2:06:01.120 We had a blast, dude. The Spring tours have been 2:06:01.160 --> 2:06:04.000 crazy for fun. I'm gonna need a special guest appearance 2:06:04.040 --> 2:06:04.680 next year on those. 2:06:04.800 --> 2:06:06.080 Yeah, hey we're trying to go. 2:06:06.720 --> 2:06:08.960 Let's do Louisville. I'm down to It's not far away 2:06:09.000 --> 2:06:10.800 at all. Yeah, two and a half three hours is 2:06:10.880 --> 2:06:13.360 it time on Louisville? Oh yeah, we have great time. Yeah, 2:06:13.440 --> 2:06:15.600 we can like The best is when you stay over night. 2:06:16.120 --> 2:06:17.920 You stay over night and get after it, like you 2:06:18.000 --> 2:06:20.640 can kind of be Like we were at skaps and 2:06:21.560 --> 2:06:23.360 some girls like what do you do for school? And 2:06:23.400 --> 2:06:27.360 I was like, oh, bro, I'm thirty. Like he goes, 2:06:27.400 --> 2:06:29.120 why are you here? And I was like that's a 2:06:29.160 --> 2:06:32.360 good question. I like walk away asked like those were ranging. Yeah, 2:06:34.120 --> 2:06:36.880 I'm back in college right now. But it's crazy, dude, 2:06:37.200 --> 2:06:37.800 it's fun. 2:06:38.080 --> 2:06:38.760 That was a blast. 2:06:38.800 --> 2:06:41.600 But we definitely the overnights we want to asu next year. 2:06:42.120 --> 2:06:44.680 You have a next year. Some of the Florida schools 2:06:44.680 --> 2:06:46.280 we're trying to stay warm next year. We hes all 2:06:46.400 --> 2:06:49.640 damn cold schools. Yeah, it was a blast, though. We 2:06:49.720 --> 2:06:51.720 should do Louisville because we were talking talking about bringing 2:06:51.720 --> 2:06:53.400 people with us, like having. 2:06:53.320 --> 2:06:55.720 Like our like if you go to Iowa, try and 2:06:55.760 --> 2:06:57.520 get kill on board, go to Louisville, get you go 2:06:57.640 --> 2:06:59.840 to Georgia, get Ben Jones, like get like guys where 2:06:59.840 --> 2:07:00.720 they went to that school. 2:07:00.960 --> 2:07:03.440 No doubt, Louisville's coaching staff is awesome too. You love 2:07:03.480 --> 2:07:06.080 those Oh really, Soderfield's great. You think we can get 2:07:06.080 --> 2:07:09.920 a jersey? Absolutely? See okay, guys quiping guy's my boys 2:07:09.960 --> 2:07:12.560 telling you, bro. We went to Tennessee and they didn't 2:07:13.040 --> 2:07:14.120 the ball. 2:07:14.200 --> 2:07:18.160 I'm a ball baseball guy, but no, I've been tweeting 2:07:18.200 --> 2:07:20.480 at the balls baseball team too. I followed him, and 2:07:20.880 --> 2:07:24.640 I'm like, oh, we're built different out here. I'm a 2:07:24.720 --> 2:07:27.400 ball and I've worked out at Vanderbilt, so I went there, 2:07:27.440 --> 2:07:29.400 and I guess all the football team is like killing 2:07:29.440 --> 2:07:29.920 the string coach. 2:07:29.960 --> 2:07:31.400 That trains me, like, well, what the fuck's the wand 2:07:31.480 --> 2:07:34.720 doing out there? Yeah, because you're because you're of all. 2:07:34.800 --> 2:07:36.800 I'm a ball, I'm not a vall. I'm a ball 2:07:36.880 --> 2:07:39.080 baseball guy. I'm obviously a Michigan football guy. 2:07:39.600 --> 2:07:41.840 Well yeah, for sure, but I'm in the brass football guy. 2:07:41.920 --> 2:07:45.040 So we're on Michigan wolf ringes. Yeah, it's true, you 2:07:45.080 --> 2:07:46.160 know what I mean. I don't know. 2:07:46.240 --> 2:07:47.520 We'll have to see at the end of the year, 2:07:47.560 --> 2:07:49.760 in the fall when the balls play the Vanderbilt where 2:07:49.760 --> 2:07:50.640 I draw the line in the sand? 2:07:51.240 --> 2:07:55.120 What's crazy? But I can't Vanderbilt. 2:07:58.120 --> 2:08:01.160 If they played the Vanderbilt sorry and van I Vanderbilt 2:08:01.160 --> 2:08:02.480 hooks the boy up with the jersey, they might have 2:08:02.560 --> 2:08:04.840 the edge. But if Tennessee brings that jersey, they might 2:08:04.880 --> 2:08:05.280 have me too. 2:08:05.280 --> 2:08:07.080 I don't know. I'm so easily bought. 2:08:08.560 --> 2:08:10.400 We stand any any school we go to, like, oh, 2:08:10.400 --> 2:08:12.360 I'm gonna root for you guys, know yeah, Oh that's 2:08:12.400 --> 2:08:13.760 like if I'm not room for Nebraska, if I'm not 2:08:13.800 --> 2:08:15.400 room for Michigan, I'm gonna be room for Tennessee. 2:08:15.640 --> 2:08:17.360 Yeah, that's how you gotta do it one hundred percent. 2:08:17.440 --> 2:08:18.800 Eventually we had all the schools and be like, we 2:08:18.880 --> 2:08:19.640 just want everybody to win. 2:08:19.720 --> 2:08:23.200 We're gonna be yeah, yeah, yeah, give u participation teammates, Yeah, 2:08:23.360 --> 2:08:24.560 giving speeches at all of them. 2:08:25.160 --> 2:08:27.440 That's awesome. Well, I think we've ran this one drive. 2:08:27.560 --> 2:08:30.480 I think we've done it. We've been it's been a 2:08:30.520 --> 2:08:30.880 great time. 2:08:30.920 --> 2:08:33.960 It's been an outstanding time. We're happy you came on. 2:08:34.040 --> 2:08:36.600 And it's ten year anniversary. Yep, ten year anniversary. 2:08:36.680 --> 2:08:39.240 We got engaged at a Garth Brooks charity event out 2:08:39.240 --> 2:08:42.400 in Vegas, like twelve years ago. You guys, we did 2:08:42.480 --> 2:08:44.680 the exact opposite of you, Like we got we took 2:08:44.720 --> 2:08:46.720 our time. Yeah, y'all went, Hey, there's a bunch of 2:08:46.760 --> 2:08:50.040 ways to kinn a cat, no doubt about it. But anyways, 2:08:50.040 --> 2:08:52.640 we got engaged at a Garth Brooks charity event. You 2:08:52.680 --> 2:08:55.720 know twelve years ago, so celebrate ten years at a 2:08:55.760 --> 2:08:56.640 Garth concert tonight. 2:08:56.760 --> 2:08:57.200 Pretty tight. 2:08:57.320 --> 2:09:00.200 That's all we actually found out, unless it was any 2:09:00.240 --> 2:09:02.560 with our daughter the day of a Garth concert, like 2:09:02.680 --> 2:09:06.480 Garth's been there to meet him. I don't think so, 2:09:06.560 --> 2:09:08.840 because they stopped doing like all the meet and greets 2:09:08.880 --> 2:09:11.040 for the people that are involved with the foundation with COVID. 2:09:11.280 --> 2:09:11.880 I don't think so. 2:09:12.240 --> 2:09:15.680 I got in this bad ass barrelhead like, uh, hand 2:09:15.800 --> 2:09:20.720 carved of him and Tricia show a picture. But uh 2:09:21.400 --> 2:09:24.520 so I dropped that off to a social media director yesterday, 2:09:24.960 --> 2:09:27.080 and so'd be cool if you give a shout out. 2:09:27.200 --> 2:09:30.600 But you know, did garst Worth assault you have a 2:09:30.640 --> 2:09:35.160 shout out? You're O, that's cool. Yeah, that's awesome. Did 2:09:35.200 --> 2:09:37.680 you name your son Garth? No, he's Garrett, but that'd 2:09:37.680 --> 2:09:40.840 have been tight. I might start calling him Garth. 2:09:41.000 --> 2:09:43.280 I was gonna say all this, all this, uh, all 2:09:43.320 --> 2:09:45.640 these hints at Garth man, it's kind of like written 2:09:45.680 --> 2:09:46.560 in the stars. 2:09:46.480 --> 2:09:48.640 Of slopping in the face, Yeah, telling you what to 2:09:48.680 --> 2:09:49.760 do right now the universe. 2:09:49.960 --> 2:09:53.760 Garth's a freaking awesome person, though, like like some of 2:09:53.800 --> 2:09:55.600 those guys aren't all they're cracked up to. 2:09:55.640 --> 2:09:56.800 Be when you get to know him a little bit. 2:09:56.840 --> 2:09:59.240 We hosted a football camp in Louisville together for all 2:09:59.280 --> 2:10:02.000 inner cities kids. No one knew who Garth Brooks was, 2:10:02.280 --> 2:10:03.680 and that's how he loved it. Like sitting there in 2:10:03.720 --> 2:10:06.000 a hoodie and a hat, just like chopping it up. 2:10:06.360 --> 2:10:08.440 But the moment like he sealed the deal for me. 2:10:08.520 --> 2:10:11.200 He's just sitting over there talking to my father in law. 2:10:11.560 --> 2:10:13.880 Doesn't know he's my father in law, talks to him 2:10:13.920 --> 2:10:15.360 for twenty minutes. My father in law is one of 2:10:15.360 --> 2:10:17.080 my favorite people in the world, but he's a maleman. 2:10:17.120 --> 2:10:19.360 He can do nothing for Garth Brooks us sat there 2:10:19.360 --> 2:10:21.840 and talked to him for twenty minutes, loving the breeze 2:10:21.880 --> 2:10:22.120 with him. 2:10:22.560 --> 2:10:23.880 I'm like, he's a real one. 2:10:24.200 --> 2:10:27.280 Yeah, guy that's not worth their uh the like the 2:10:27.520 --> 2:10:30.320 coldest anyone who has been like you know, like they 2:10:30.400 --> 2:10:33.200 come through Louisville and you know they're playing at our 2:10:33.240 --> 2:10:36.360 basketball gym and whatnot, like we'll generally meet him or whatever. 2:10:36.640 --> 2:10:39.480 Zach Brown was like like one of the dudes who 2:10:39.680 --> 2:10:43.640 like didn't offer to like have a drink or whatever. Yeah, like, oh, 2:10:44.000 --> 2:10:45.800 one of my buddies had grown out of he was 2:10:45.880 --> 2:10:49.560 doing like November. This was a kind of early in 2:10:49.600 --> 2:10:52.640 my NFL career, so twenty twelve, twenty thirteen, so we're 2:10:52.680 --> 2:10:54.200 not like we're like in our late twenties. 2:10:54.240 --> 2:10:57.040 He grew up like this massive mustache and he was 2:10:57.120 --> 2:10:57.560 joking around. 2:10:57.560 --> 2:10:59.320 He's like, man, I've been I grew up this mustache 2:10:59.400 --> 2:11:02.600 for the concert and Zach Brown's like, that's a weird. 2:11:02.480 --> 2:11:07.120 Man, really, And then and then and then you know 2:11:07.200 --> 2:11:08.640 his chicken fry dude, and he's cold beer on a 2:11:08.680 --> 2:11:09.960 Friday night music. 2:11:09.960 --> 2:11:12.080 I'll meet you, hear us. I love his music. I'll 2:11:12.120 --> 2:11:14.120 let you do. They kill it? Dude. What's that song? 2:11:14.360 --> 2:11:21.600 Ows me out? Yeah? Probably older Weather. Oh that's the song. 2:11:21.720 --> 2:11:23.959 Was just trying to think of you and I'm stucking 2:11:24.280 --> 2:11:28.640 cold weather. Maybe tomorrow will be bed? 2:11:29.680 --> 2:11:30.920 Can I call you? Then? 2:11:31.520 --> 2:11:35.640 Doom Doom Doom because I'm a ramsom man and I 2:11:36.320 --> 2:11:41.200 never got to change. He got a gypsy soul to blame, 2:11:41.320 --> 2:11:46.400 and they were bone for leaving bone believing. 2:11:48.080 --> 2:11:52.720 Well, it's a woe row when you're in the lost 2:11:52.880 --> 2:11:58.040 and frown, you're a lover runner, and we go round 2:11:58.160 --> 2:11:59.840 and round Doom Doom Doom. 2:12:00.040 --> 2:12:03.360 Because that last I feel like we've I was I 2:12:03.440 --> 2:12:03.800 can't think. 2:12:05.200 --> 2:12:07.080 I kept thinking that one of you two It was like, 2:12:07.160 --> 2:12:08.560 both of you guys are gonna stop and let me 2:12:08.680 --> 2:12:09.040 keep going. 2:12:09.440 --> 2:12:09.680 I was. 2:12:09.880 --> 2:12:13.840 I love singing, yeah, always, what's that he was ready for? 2:12:13.960 --> 2:12:15.320 He was ready for us to turn the volume down 2:12:15.320 --> 2:12:16.200 the car on him real quick. 2:12:16.760 --> 2:12:18.360 One of my favorite things to do is get up 2:12:18.360 --> 2:12:19.320 on stage and single with the band. 2:12:19.320 --> 2:12:21.880 You talk about trying to replicate a rush, Yeah, playing 2:12:21.920 --> 2:12:24.280 football like singing in front of a crowd is awesome. 2:12:24.440 --> 2:12:26.160 I love it. What do you got? Should have been 2:12:26.200 --> 2:12:28.240 a cowboys like my go to, but like I'm not 2:12:28.320 --> 2:12:28.800 doing it here. 2:12:28.960 --> 2:12:31.680 Like we get a couple just wearing my six shooter 2:12:31.880 --> 2:12:34.160 riding my pony on the cattle drive. 2:12:35.160 --> 2:12:35.800 I'll put I'll pull it. 2:12:35.840 --> 2:12:37.800 I'll probably I'll probably end up on the stage tonight 2:12:37.880 --> 2:12:39.120 at the stage or something. 2:12:39.840 --> 2:12:41.240 Because you and Garth boys like that. So you can 2:12:41.280 --> 2:12:41.680 get out there. 2:12:42.760 --> 2:12:46.520 Where's my buddy at one of my boys, Chris Ferrara, 2:12:46.800 --> 2:12:48.760 Common Good He's playing at twelve thirty club tonight. 2:12:49.400 --> 2:12:50.040 So awesome. 2:12:50.120 --> 2:12:51.920 Spot by the way, it is, it's a cool area, 2:12:52.040 --> 2:12:54.480 Like that's one of my favorite spots. I was sitting 2:12:54.480 --> 2:12:56.320 that was sitting there one night. It's like the table 2:12:56.400 --> 2:12:58.720 that's kind of like right by the stage, and I 2:12:58.800 --> 2:13:00.880 was sitting there. Waitress came up like that's where JT 2:13:01.040 --> 2:13:02.560 sits when he comes in. I was like, oh, it's 2:13:02.600 --> 2:13:03.320 a special smith. 2:13:03.400 --> 2:13:05.640 This is nice. Yeah, I get to rub off on 2:13:05.720 --> 2:13:07.400 you a little bit, you know what I'm saying. It 2:13:07.560 --> 2:13:10.400 was the troll. He was branch. Do we got anything else? 2:13:12.200 --> 2:13:16.040 We all got anything. We haven't hit on anything anything. 2:13:16.320 --> 2:13:20.040 Foundation Foundation evan Wood Fund. So my little brother was 2:13:20.080 --> 2:13:22.360 born with severe several palsy. He passed when he was eleven. 2:13:22.400 --> 2:13:25.120 So we got that up in Buffalo stuck. So now 2:13:25.160 --> 2:13:27.280 it's called the Evanwood Fund. It was the Airwood Foundation. 2:13:27.360 --> 2:13:29.720 I made it the Evnwood Fund. It's under a children's 2:13:29.760 --> 2:13:32.200 hospital up there. So now they pay all the administrative fees, 2:13:32.240 --> 2:13:35.400 which is great. Yeah for all athletes that are starting 2:13:36.040 --> 2:13:38.520 foundations and all that make it a fund under a 2:13:38.640 --> 2:13:41.280 hospital and then they'll pay all the administrative fees. So 2:13:41.360 --> 2:13:44.160 instead of donating sixty or seventy percent, we donate ninety 2:13:44.200 --> 2:13:48.000 seven percent of the money donated, I say donate, all 2:13:48.080 --> 2:13:49.000 of it goes to the families. 2:13:49.080 --> 2:13:51.000 It was to like, hey, well, we had to. 2:13:51.040 --> 2:13:52.920 Pay a few bills and all that, like that three 2:13:53.000 --> 2:13:55.880 percent covers like booze at our charity event. 2:13:55.960 --> 2:13:58.480 You know, like, yeah, you know, so that's been a 2:13:58.560 --> 2:13:59.120 ton of fun to do. 2:14:00.120 --> 2:14:03.000 Throw the money out there. No, yeah, it's that's an investment. 2:14:03.280 --> 2:14:05.680 But now that's been fun. Got the broadcast, he got 2:14:05.720 --> 2:14:06.280 the podcast. 2:14:06.720 --> 2:14:08.880 Yeah, what's next with Eric Wood? What's next with Eric Wood? 2:14:09.440 --> 2:14:12.040 Boy was coming out? What what would be the go to? 2:14:12.160 --> 2:14:13.480 People are like, all right, I'm gonna go check out 2:14:13.520 --> 2:14:15.400 his podcast? What's like an episode? You're like, all right, 2:14:15.440 --> 2:14:15.760 go to this. 2:14:15.760 --> 2:14:18.520 Great question if you're into like personal development, like ed 2:14:18.600 --> 2:14:21.600 my Letts as good as it gets, you know, John Gordon, 2:14:21.680 --> 2:14:24.360 those types of dudes, those are great. If you're looking 2:14:24.440 --> 2:14:26.880 for a fun one, go listen to Ryan Fitzpatrick t 2:14:27.040 --> 2:14:29.680 O was pretty good on there. Joe Tom like if 2:14:29.680 --> 2:14:31.840 you like oh line talk. Joe Thomas was great. Nick 2:14:31.880 --> 2:14:32.680 Hardwick was great. 2:14:33.120 --> 2:14:35.840 Okay, Joe's awesome all the time. Joe is on the 2:14:35.880 --> 2:14:38.240 bus Man. We've had him on Zoom but not the bus. 2:14:38.400 --> 2:14:40.560 Are you doing she Code? Are you working with them? 2:14:40.920 --> 2:14:44.040 I'm doing it in two weeks? Yeah she could. She Code? 2:14:44.160 --> 2:14:46.240 Is Armando the guy that I've been working with for 2:14:46.400 --> 2:14:50.400 like brain hacking, like development breaking through those walls as 2:14:50.400 --> 2:14:50.760 a child. 2:14:51.760 --> 2:14:54.800 Oh the mental guy, Yeah, mental coach. I could have 2:14:54.800 --> 2:14:56.200 just said that the first time. I actually it actually 2:14:56.280 --> 2:14:58.640 ran away from me real quick. And I'm excited about 2:14:58.680 --> 2:14:59.800 that e md R treatment. 2:14:59.880 --> 2:15:02.440 Like I'm excited about it, and I think I'll like 2:15:02.800 --> 2:15:05.560 I had some traumatic stuff, so like I think that'll 2:15:05.680 --> 2:15:08.280 be really beneficial for me. But even like in talking 2:15:08.320 --> 2:15:09.840 with dudes that are transitioning out and be able to 2:15:09.880 --> 2:15:11.680 refer him to a bunch of other guys, I think 2:15:11.760 --> 2:15:13.200 that could be something that comes out of this. 2:15:13.200 --> 2:15:14.880 It was all time, when the when the when the 2:15:14.920 --> 2:15:17.280 Titans brought him on and I've been talking on like 2:15:17.280 --> 2:15:18.800 three four years ago. I want to talk to somebody 2:15:18.880 --> 2:15:21.440 kind of figure out these demons. And they brought them 2:15:21.480 --> 2:15:22.800 on and I was like, who wants to do it? 2:15:22.800 --> 2:15:25.080 And I was like, I'm all about it. So Armando's 2:15:25.120 --> 2:15:27.720 my boy. We've been working a lot, so it's it's awesome. Yeah, 2:15:27.920 --> 2:15:31.520 like the first five sessions, I cried losing it. We're 2:15:31.560 --> 2:15:34.320 doing a three day intensive in Louisville where like it's 2:15:34.440 --> 2:15:37.000 like all day, no phone, nothing. Yeah, yeah, I heard 2:15:37.040 --> 2:15:38.800 about that. I need to do one of those two. Yeah, 2:15:38.840 --> 2:15:40.560 sounds like a wreck. You're gonna wreck my world and 2:15:40.640 --> 2:15:42.360 then hopefully just like bring me out of it. 2:15:42.560 --> 2:15:44.840 God, you'll be glowing at the end of it. He 2:15:45.040 --> 2:15:45.920 is so smart too. 2:15:46.280 --> 2:15:48.280 The way he breaks things down tells you things, like 2:15:48.400 --> 2:15:50.800 the way he makes you search throughout your brain. 2:15:50.880 --> 2:15:52.920 It's a crazy deal. How often do you work with him? 2:15:52.960 --> 2:15:55.720 Once a week? I need to bump that up in 2:15:55.760 --> 2:15:57.200 two weeks though. Yeah. 2:15:57.200 --> 2:16:00.440 I mean, shoot, therapy is incredible, right, it really is, 2:16:00.600 --> 2:16:02.240 And they can get any kind of therapy in their life. 2:16:02.280 --> 2:16:06.440 I feel like that's like a it's it is extremely beneficial, right, 2:16:06.560 --> 2:16:08.600 But this dude's worked with so many athletes, like he 2:16:08.720 --> 2:16:10.040 gets it right, right. 2:16:10.160 --> 2:16:12.600 No, Yeah, but for people out there thinking all they're 2:16:12.640 --> 2:16:16.240 doing this some like some like extreme athletic hack for 2:16:16.320 --> 2:16:16.720 their brain. 2:16:16.880 --> 2:16:19.360 No, like that applies to anybody, right, Yeah, no doubt. Yeah. 2:16:19.400 --> 2:16:21.480 Be able to live free with not as much weight 2:16:21.520 --> 2:16:23.600 on your shoulders. What a way to live. Yeah, it's 2:16:23.680 --> 2:16:24.920 really the dream. Yeah. 2:16:24.920 --> 2:16:26.600 He was saying like, if you have if you have 2:16:27.400 --> 2:16:30.960 open loops of like traumatic experience in your life, you 2:16:31.040 --> 2:16:32.960 don't even know that you're triggering those moments. And I 2:16:32.959 --> 2:16:34.520 haven't even done the treatment. I've just had a bunch 2:16:34.560 --> 2:16:36.480 of conversations with him and looking into it. But you 2:16:36.680 --> 2:16:38.920 go back to the mental state that you were in 2:16:39.080 --> 2:16:42.160 at that age and that emotional state whenever you're triggered 2:16:42.200 --> 2:16:44.160 in any type of way, and like it might be 2:16:44.720 --> 2:16:46.160 you know, a death of a loved one, it might 2:16:46.200 --> 2:16:50.080 be alcoholic parents, whatever it may be. But like something 2:16:50.120 --> 2:16:52.440 could trigger you and you don't even realize it, Like 2:16:52.560 --> 2:16:54.520 it might be just like the way you someone made 2:16:54.560 --> 2:16:56.480 you feel, made you feel in that way, then all 2:16:56.480 --> 2:16:58.600 of a sudden, you're like a freaking six year old again. 2:16:59.200 --> 2:17:00.720 Like emotion and mentally. 2:17:00.800 --> 2:17:02.560 Yeah, I tell you what, you do an hour session 2:17:02.600 --> 2:17:05.440 with him and you leave that session feeling amazing. 2:17:06.120 --> 2:17:07.920 He plays music for you, he does he. 2:17:07.920 --> 2:17:10.920 Has a whole like work with this guy who does beats, 2:17:11.000 --> 2:17:13.600 but he put beats together in this like a way 2:17:13.720 --> 2:17:15.320 that helps your brain like relax. 2:17:15.400 --> 2:17:17.840 It's a crazy deal. It's a crazy deal, but it's 2:17:17.879 --> 2:17:19.480 really cool, really cool. 2:17:19.480 --> 2:17:20.879 I gotta get both of you guys on the podcast. 2:17:21.040 --> 2:17:22.960 Try to record with Will. First time in my life 2:17:23.000 --> 2:17:24.600 the internet went out at our house, so. 2:17:24.879 --> 2:17:26.920 I try to do that. We got back up. Was 2:17:26.959 --> 2:17:28.920 it during COVID, Yeah, it was during COVID. 2:17:29.240 --> 2:17:31.640 I mean, it was great stuff, and then it was like, well, 2:17:31.640 --> 2:17:33.080 we can't even do it next week because it'll be 2:17:33.120 --> 2:17:35.040 like we're just repeating. We're gonna we're gonna try and 2:17:35.120 --> 2:17:36.960 recreate the same stuff and it won't be nearly as good. 2:17:37.000 --> 2:17:38.640 I'm like, let's just let it breathe for a while 2:17:38.680 --> 2:17:39.600 and we'll go back and do it again. 2:17:39.920 --> 2:17:41.800 Now I've kind of forgotten exactly get back into it. 2:17:41.920 --> 2:17:44.320 Yeah, we would try and reconnect, and I would try 2:17:44.360 --> 2:17:46.880 and put myself in the same like state where I 2:17:47.040 --> 2:17:48.520 was like going and I'm like, are. 2:17:48.480 --> 2:17:52.760 You there, Oh dude, I was that's tough. Yeah, we 2:17:52.840 --> 2:17:54.480 got We tried it there on a couple of times, 2:17:54.560 --> 2:17:55.360 and then it was zoom. 2:17:55.440 --> 2:17:57.800 So you're like you're sitting there way and I feel 2:17:57.800 --> 2:17:59.720 like everybody at that point in COVID, like we're doing 2:17:59.720 --> 2:18:01.640 our You're like trying to figure out the whole Zoom 2:18:01.680 --> 2:18:02.800 game and everything else. 2:18:02.720 --> 2:18:04.520 A touch of a lag, so you've kind of interrupting 2:18:04.560 --> 2:18:06.560 each other a little bit. Yeah, yeah, I heard you 2:18:06.680 --> 2:18:08.400 with my my boy cow Rude Off he's one of 2:18:08.480 --> 2:18:09.800 my best friends. I heard you all with him and 2:18:09.879 --> 2:18:11.600 like kind of stepping on each other's stores on. Yeah, 2:18:11.600 --> 2:18:13.160 that would be really hard if you're not in the 2:18:13.240 --> 2:18:15.000 room together, if you're co hosting. 2:18:15.480 --> 2:18:18.560 Yeah, that was definitely a tough deal on Taylor and I, 2:18:18.760 --> 2:18:22.359 like we're not some buttoned up Yeah. 2:18:22.200 --> 2:18:24.360 There's no there's no no doubt about it. And you're 2:18:24.400 --> 2:18:26.879 trying to run the conversation. You know, you don't want 2:18:26.879 --> 2:18:28.240 there to be just you don't want the guests to 2:18:28.240 --> 2:18:30.080 be sitting there like we done. 2:18:30.240 --> 2:18:32.280 If we're talking to you, Will and I can kind 2:18:32.280 --> 2:18:33.840 of feel like when the next person's got a question 2:18:33.920 --> 2:18:36.320 when we're with each other, but if you're on the computer, 2:18:36.440 --> 2:18:38.360 it's like, I guess like you're kind of you get 2:18:38.360 --> 2:18:39.520 to a point you're like, man, I don't want this 2:18:39.640 --> 2:18:41.240 to be like an awkward pause, So I got to 2:18:41.240 --> 2:18:41.840 ask this question. 2:18:41.879 --> 2:18:43.760 But Will is probably thinking the same thing. Right he 2:18:43.800 --> 2:18:45.880 goes ask question, We're like, well, hey, you go ahead. 2:18:46.000 --> 2:18:47.800 You know what I'm saying. You both say you go 2:18:47.840 --> 2:18:50.280 ahead and all right, and then it's just a fucking deal. 2:18:53.680 --> 2:18:56.840 Then you just stay there there, you go ahead, you 2:18:56.959 --> 2:18:58.920 go ahead, kind of stare at us, look down on 2:18:58.959 --> 2:18:59.920 your phone, fucking idiot. 2:19:00.160 --> 2:19:03.200 We appreciate it, bro, Yeah, i'mbscribed to what What's next 2:19:03.240 --> 2:19:05.800 with Eric Wood? Check out those episodes. But this was 2:19:05.879 --> 2:19:07.840 a This was a great episode. I don't have to 2:19:07.879 --> 2:19:09.360 look at notes like it's all. 2:19:09.280 --> 2:19:11.560 Time, no doubt, no doubt about it. Yeah, and I 2:19:11.640 --> 2:19:13.760 appreciate you let me come on. I mean, I've been 2:19:13.800 --> 2:19:17.480 a fan of the show, so I'm honored. 2:19:17.760 --> 2:19:20.840 Yeah, Tier three Cat in our Hands, Yeah, I love it. 2:19:20.920 --> 2:19:23.120 I didn't get to uh, I didn't get to ask 2:19:23.200 --> 2:19:26.039 about because you're a huge football junkie, so the answer 2:19:26.080 --> 2:19:28.280 will probably be no. But now that you're doing the 2:19:28.320 --> 2:19:30.600 media stuff, do you think back, like, ah, man, if 2:19:30.600 --> 2:19:32.440 I would have if I would have struck a little more, 2:19:32.480 --> 2:19:35.400 started a little earlier, Because to me, it's always different 2:19:35.440 --> 2:19:38.040 when you're you become a retired player versus like being 2:19:38.120 --> 2:19:40.240 in being an active player. That's what I feel like 2:19:40.280 --> 2:19:42.560 it has been very beneficial for us is doing it 2:19:42.680 --> 2:19:45.400 like wall we're kind of playing. Obviously, it's it's hard 2:19:45.440 --> 2:19:47.400 to be like, yeah, I mean I probably wouldn't have 2:19:47.400 --> 2:19:48.920 done it as playing, but now that I'm doing it 2:19:49.440 --> 2:19:52.480 doing it currently, it's like I should have probably done 2:19:52.520 --> 2:19:53.879 a couple more things early in my career. 2:19:54.040 --> 2:19:56.480 I think, especially with the media world, the more connections 2:19:56.520 --> 2:19:58.120 you can make like you don't even necessarily have to 2:19:58.120 --> 2:20:01.000 get reps, but like you better be treating those national 2:20:01.080 --> 2:20:02.840 media members with a lot of respect and make as 2:20:02.879 --> 2:20:05.240 many friendships as you can. Like I wasn't even like 2:20:05.600 --> 2:20:06.920 I thought I was gonna play for five or ten 2:20:06.959 --> 2:20:08.800 more years, so I wasn't like thinking about it all. 2:20:09.120 --> 2:20:11.960 But then Mike Silver and Ian Rapperport and all these 2:20:12.040 --> 2:20:13.760 dudes reached out like, hey, you need an agent. You 2:20:13.840 --> 2:20:15.800 want me to help you get a gig here, you know, 2:20:16.200 --> 2:20:17.640 And then they'd be like, hey, can we make an 2:20:17.640 --> 2:20:20.320 introduction to ESPN here and there? And like those were 2:20:20.400 --> 2:20:22.880 all just people that throughout my career, you know, just 2:20:22.920 --> 2:20:25.760 treat them well and so like and make those connections, 2:20:25.800 --> 2:20:27.800 make friendships. It was Albert, It was a bunch of 2:20:27.879 --> 2:20:30.440 people that like helped me get into it because you 2:20:30.560 --> 2:20:32.279 treated them right, And I think that goes with anything 2:20:32.280 --> 2:20:32.640 in life. 2:20:32.879 --> 2:20:35.119 But then, you know, I love what you guys are doing. 2:20:35.320 --> 2:20:38.520 Like having passions outside of ball is healthy too, you know, 2:20:38.720 --> 2:20:40.720 like in having something that you can pour into. But 2:20:40.800 --> 2:20:43.320 I always warned people, like I always tell people, I'm like, 2:20:43.400 --> 2:20:46.560 if you're too like if you're skipping workouts and stuff 2:20:46.640 --> 2:20:48.160 to go do this real estate gig and all that. 2:20:48.360 --> 2:20:50.240 Like you're gonna find the end of your career a 2:20:50.320 --> 2:20:52.560 lot sooner than you would have otherwise. So you need 2:20:52.640 --> 2:20:54.000 to be all in on ball and then if you 2:20:54.080 --> 2:20:56.840 have time to do something else, perfect do it, especially 2:20:56.879 --> 2:20:59.200 if it's something like this where it's like healthy, it's 2:20:59.240 --> 2:21:04.360 not like tracting from ball and it's not like you're 2:21:04.400 --> 2:21:06.040 out like doing something that. It's not like you're not 2:21:06.120 --> 2:21:08.480 playing basketball you get hurt or whatever. Yeah, I say that, 2:21:09.000 --> 2:21:11.280 but like I tell people, I'm like, man, you start 2:21:11.320 --> 2:21:14.000 doing real estate, you'll realize quickly. Like those dudes that 2:21:14.160 --> 2:21:16.520 make four or five hundred grand, that's a lot of money. Okay, 2:21:16.800 --> 2:21:20.640 if you make five million bucks, that's ten years, right, 2:21:20.720 --> 2:21:23.240 work into real estate, like it's only one year. Like, 2:21:23.440 --> 2:21:25.480 be really careful when you're putting too much time into 2:21:25.520 --> 2:21:27.120 something like that in the off season. 2:21:27.840 --> 2:21:31.120 Yeah, football is definitely. Don't say that for credit, No, 2:21:31.480 --> 2:21:34.840 not at all. Yeah. Yeah, those paychecks they just don't 2:21:34.840 --> 2:21:37.160 fall off a treatment. Yeah that just playing in general too. 2:21:37.400 --> 2:21:39.200 Oh fuck, it's like you said, like you just wake 2:21:39.320 --> 2:21:40.680 up and you just can't play anymore, and it's like 2:21:40.800 --> 2:21:43.000 there's no time, there's never you'll never be able to 2:21:43.040 --> 2:21:43.879 go back and try again. 2:21:45.200 --> 2:21:48.120 And it's not a sport where you go and play 2:21:48.240 --> 2:21:51.520 recreationally like basketball, you can stay involved hootball, you can 2:21:51.720 --> 2:21:53.560 get on a softball team, like you can do stuff 2:21:53.600 --> 2:21:55.840 like that. Ball you ain't going and be like, hey, 2:21:55.959 --> 2:21:58.680 let's fucking let's get the boys together real quick. 2:21:58.720 --> 2:21:59.680 Boys, yeah, which is. 2:21:59.680 --> 2:22:01.880 Actually awesome because then you can just be the greatest 2:22:01.959 --> 2:22:03.800 forever and like no one's ever gonna be like, dude, 2:22:03.840 --> 2:22:05.480 let's do a one on one passer. You're like, no, 2:22:05.600 --> 2:22:07.640 we're not doing that like that, Like so then you're 2:22:07.760 --> 2:22:10.119 just good forever, like you're good. But like you see 2:22:10.200 --> 2:22:12.080 these like former tour pros, they'll play in like a 2:22:12.120 --> 2:22:14.080 pro am and they're like terrible now and they hated 2:22:14.160 --> 2:22:15.120 and they're crated, Like. 2:22:15.120 --> 2:22:16.520 You never have to get that way about the game. 2:22:16.600 --> 2:22:20.520 But last thing for me, but I really appreciated earlier 2:22:20.520 --> 2:22:22.360 when you said, like when you were running today, like 2:22:22.480 --> 2:22:24.840 you had that like the presence about you to say like, man, 2:22:24.840 --> 2:22:26.920 I'm grateful that I can even out here running and 2:22:27.000 --> 2:22:28.880 like it sucks to on a conditioning session, especially you 2:22:28.879 --> 2:22:30.600 said you almost passed out. I hate to be like, man, 2:22:30.640 --> 2:22:32.920 I'm grateful for this opportunity because I know what how 2:22:33.560 --> 2:22:37.320 crappy was last year. I couldn't even run. Like if 2:22:37.320 --> 2:22:39.520 people will ask me, like what do you regret anything 2:22:39.560 --> 2:22:42.080 from your career? And like my biggest regret was, like 2:22:42.160 --> 2:22:44.160 the first five years of my career, I put so 2:22:44.280 --> 2:22:46.520 much pressure myself, Like, man, I bus like I keep 2:22:46.560 --> 2:22:48.960 getting hurt, you know, like I cared like way too 2:22:49.040 --> 2:22:52.240 much what everyone thought. And like the last like three 2:22:52.320 --> 2:22:53.920 or four years of my career, I would just drive 2:22:53.959 --> 2:22:54.560 to the stadium with. 2:22:54.560 --> 2:22:56.000 The sound off and be like, man, how cool is it? 2:22:56.000 --> 2:22:58.000 And I only lived my way, so it's like five minutes, 2:22:58.320 --> 2:22:59.680 a couple of stop lights, and I'm there. 2:23:00.040 --> 2:23:01.040 I'd be like, man, how cool is this? 2:23:01.240 --> 2:23:03.480 Like I didn't even start on my high school football 2:23:03.480 --> 2:23:05.200 team as a junior in high school, and now I 2:23:05.280 --> 2:23:07.080 get to go to an NFL facility and work like 2:23:07.440 --> 2:23:09.240 and I would walk in each day just like on 2:23:09.440 --> 2:23:12.480 fire to be there. And that changed my mindset completely, 2:23:12.760 --> 2:23:16.200 just like a small little gratitude practice. But like when 2:23:16.240 --> 2:23:18.520 you're in the league, like enjoy it, Like you work 2:23:18.640 --> 2:23:21.240 so hard to get there. In the moment, it's tough, 2:23:21.440 --> 2:23:22.960 you know, cause you're always worried about like it right 2:23:23.000 --> 2:23:24.760 when you get that next paychecker or am I going 2:23:24.800 --> 2:23:25.400 to get cut. 2:23:25.560 --> 2:23:26.000 If you lose? 2:23:26.080 --> 2:23:27.720 You put something bat on film, you're watching it any 2:23:27.800 --> 2:23:30.160 times a night, like fuck, yes, bring this up in 2:23:30.160 --> 2:23:30.800 the meeting tomorrow. 2:23:30.959 --> 2:23:33.000 Yeah, but it's like, man, you get to be a part, 2:23:33.240 --> 2:23:35.240 Like you get to live out your dream like enjoy 2:23:35.360 --> 2:23:36.880 it and who gives a crap if you have beat 2:23:36.920 --> 2:23:38.560 to play. It took me a while to realize, Like 2:23:38.760 --> 2:23:41.920 those dudes on Defense get paid too, right, Like it's okay, 2:23:42.400 --> 2:23:43.160 yeah it is. 2:23:43.240 --> 2:23:44.840 It's all about how it's worded to you two as 2:23:44.879 --> 2:23:46.960 you're receiving it from your coaches. Yes, like if the 2:23:47.000 --> 2:23:49.640 coach doesn't understand that they get paid too, and it's 2:23:49.680 --> 2:23:52.400 just like this cloud of like nothing's ever good enough. 2:23:53.160 --> 2:23:54.000 That's hard to deal with. 2:23:54.480 --> 2:23:56.400 That's hard to But you have to be comfortable with 2:23:56.400 --> 2:23:59.200 yourself working with a guy like Armando and doing that work, 2:23:59.280 --> 2:24:00.840 so you can be like, Okay, I'm doing what I 2:24:00.920 --> 2:24:03.520 need to do, and then you can be like you 2:24:03.560 --> 2:24:05.480 can be strategic about how you approach the next thing. 2:24:05.680 --> 2:24:06.600 I have to work on my hands. I have to 2:24:06.640 --> 2:24:07.160 work on my set. 2:24:07.240 --> 2:24:09.359 This way, my hips turn when I go to transition 2:24:09.440 --> 2:24:11.200 with the guys on the high end of the rush 2:24:11.360 --> 2:24:15.119 like those types of things, Like it's all about incrementally 2:24:15.640 --> 2:24:17.720 figuring out those little things and you just keep progressing. 2:24:17.760 --> 2:24:20.800 That's what great thing about campus camp fucking sucks. Nobody 2:24:20.920 --> 2:24:22.720 likes camp, but if you take it and like, I'm 2:24:22.720 --> 2:24:24.920 just gonna get better at this today, your whole game 2:24:24.959 --> 2:24:26.360 doesn't have to be good. But if you're like my 2:24:26.400 --> 2:24:28.600 backside cut offs. You don't ever have a backside cut 2:24:28.640 --> 2:24:31.520 up in a center, but like your man reaches or whatever, right, 2:24:31.720 --> 2:24:33.760 you're like, if I can just fit this good today, 2:24:34.000 --> 2:24:36.040 solid day, be a great all around game. 2:24:36.080 --> 2:24:38.119 You're not there yet. It's August, it's late July, whatever 2:24:38.200 --> 2:24:40.879 it is. So making the most of it, for sure 2:24:41.000 --> 2:24:41.520 is everything. 2:24:41.600 --> 2:24:44.800 And sometimes when you're getting coach trd like knowing that 2:24:44.879 --> 2:24:47.400 it's not like an attack on you personally, like it's 2:24:47.440 --> 2:24:49.440 not about you, Like, yeah, one thing that what I 2:24:49.440 --> 2:24:51.520 would think about holst me that would help me is 2:24:51.600 --> 2:24:54.640 knowing that that coach then leaves our meeting, has to 2:24:54.720 --> 2:24:56.960 go into a bigger meeting and they might be getting 2:24:57.040 --> 2:25:00.360 cussed at about something that their players are doing. He 2:25:00.480 --> 2:25:03.080 might be projecting, or him having his own deal with 2:25:03.160 --> 2:25:06.040 you just knowing like, yo, it's not even about you probably, Yeah, 2:25:06.320 --> 2:25:07.400 And there's. 2:25:07.240 --> 2:25:08.840 A it's tough too that when ego gets in the 2:25:08.879 --> 2:25:12.240 way of like if your coach like Keith our online coach, 2:25:12.320 --> 2:25:14.800 he's never played offensive line, he was a tight end. 2:25:14.840 --> 2:25:16.240 And then there's these. 2:25:18.000 --> 2:25:19.840 There are times where there's a there's a little bit 2:25:19.840 --> 2:25:21.400 of a disconnect in a way where you're like, dude, 2:25:21.560 --> 2:25:24.400 like you're asking for something in a simple way that 2:25:24.480 --> 2:25:26.920 it's not it's not that easy to do, right, you know, 2:25:27.200 --> 2:25:29.800 you can't like it's easy to talk about doing something 2:25:29.840 --> 2:25:31.720 or where your hat's supposed to be bullets are flying, 2:25:31.959 --> 2:25:34.360 Like shit's a little harder. That's what the great ones do. 2:25:34.440 --> 2:25:36.400 They make it look easy. That's what it's a rable comment. 2:25:37.000 --> 2:25:38.760 The great ones make it look easy. Joe Thomas is 2:25:38.800 --> 2:25:40.920 the perfect example of that. He would just go and 2:25:41.000 --> 2:25:43.040 you I'd watch them on a film legit be like yo, 2:25:43.160 --> 2:25:45.280 fuck Joe, Like he makes it shite look so damn easy. 2:25:45.400 --> 2:25:48.240 Never touch the ground in a ga maargic, just like chilling. 2:25:48.480 --> 2:25:50.000 I'm like, how is he getting back? And the guy 2:25:50.160 --> 2:25:53.120 just kind of falls into him. Yeah, I'm make my 2:25:53.240 --> 2:25:54.400 tenth Pro Bowl in ten years. 2:25:54.600 --> 2:25:57.680 You know it's ship like that an awesome story of 2:25:57.760 --> 2:26:01.039 my podcast about to keep that start streak alive. 2:26:01.840 --> 2:26:04.320 He didn't practice for like four straight weeks. His back 2:26:04.440 --> 2:26:04.840 was so bad. 2:26:04.879 --> 2:26:06.240 He was doing like two and a half hours of 2:26:06.320 --> 2:26:08.920 treatment before games, getting it shot up. He couldn't even 2:26:09.040 --> 2:26:11.680 sit in meetings. He had to stand because his back 2:26:11.760 --> 2:26:13.440 was so jacked up. And they're just like wheeling them 2:26:13.480 --> 2:26:15.000 out every week. But he had so much pride in 2:26:15.080 --> 2:26:18.039 that star streak and he was like, man, at this point, 2:26:18.160 --> 2:26:21.240 I like I can play, Yeah, I can get out there. 2:26:21.879 --> 2:26:23.840 So like, what's it saying about me now? If I've 2:26:23.840 --> 2:26:25.920 made all this money and I'm making these Pro Bowls 2:26:25.959 --> 2:26:28.160 and now I shut it down? Like am I selling out? 2:26:28.280 --> 2:26:30.240 And like, yeah, I couldn't do it. And he was like, man, 2:26:30.280 --> 2:26:32.320 it was like really dangerous what I was doing, dude. 2:26:32.320 --> 2:26:32.520 I was. 2:26:32.680 --> 2:26:35.040 I was at the game when he towards Trice up 2:26:35.280 --> 2:26:36.840 he was playing as Italians, and I was like, it 2:26:36.959 --> 2:26:39.720 was literally like watching somebody like I don't know, like 2:26:39.879 --> 2:26:40.560 an older brother. 2:26:40.840 --> 2:26:42.560 I have to be like watching a superhero. 2:26:42.800 --> 2:26:45.440 Yeah, but it was like home Bown, What the fuck's 2:26:45.480 --> 2:26:47.720 that movie with the fucking the Fox and the Hound 2:26:48.480 --> 2:26:49.959 When the Mom gets killed and you're. 2:26:49.879 --> 2:26:51.920 Like, dam like you feel emotion like that, and of 2:26:52.000 --> 2:26:52.959 all the things to take him out of. 2:26:56.560 --> 2:26:58.720 Wild, bro, you know what I'm saying. But like it 2:26:58.879 --> 2:27:01.320 was like he was coming towards us. I was literally 2:27:01.360 --> 2:27:03.880 like sitting parallel just watching Joe, Like that's how you 2:27:03.959 --> 2:27:05.480 know you're that good. I'm on the sidelines a'fter I 2:27:05.520 --> 2:27:07.680 get whatever the coaching notes or or whatever, I go 2:27:07.840 --> 2:27:10.280 in the on the side, I'm watching him play, just 2:27:10.320 --> 2:27:12.600 to watch this. It's Joe Thomas and it goes down 2:27:12.640 --> 2:27:15.880 and I'm like, fuck, dude, that's wild. Just crazy that 2:27:16.560 --> 2:27:19.000 he did it for so long. I have that many reps, 2:27:19.040 --> 2:27:22.959 ten thousand whatever reps. Yeah, just wild on a terrible team. 2:27:23.280 --> 2:27:25.600 A terrible team, you know what I mean. I don't 2:27:25.600 --> 2:27:26.960 know if you talk about this on your podcast, but 2:27:27.000 --> 2:27:29.240 I heard he was gonna get traded to Denver the 2:27:29.360 --> 2:27:31.600 year they won a Super Bowl. Really and then I 2:27:32.120 --> 2:27:33.720 this is all he said, she said stuff. I have 2:27:33.840 --> 2:27:35.960 no idea, but apparently he went to the GM and 2:27:36.000 --> 2:27:37.480 I was like, please don't trade me. I want to 2:27:37.600 --> 2:27:39.320 I want to be here, and then they put in 2:27:39.400 --> 2:27:41.600 the form like three minutes late. So it never actually 2:27:41.680 --> 2:27:44.840 the transition transaction never happened. Wow, we won a super Bowl. 2:27:45.080 --> 2:27:47.120 That'd be a cool story. I know, I wonder if 2:27:47.160 --> 2:27:47.560 that's true. 2:27:47.680 --> 2:27:49.400 But playing in the same spot your whole career, Like 2:27:49.440 --> 2:27:52.400 there's something to that that's so cool that it's different 2:27:52.400 --> 2:27:54.800 because I think they made the playoffs one year. But 2:27:55.440 --> 2:27:57.400 like for me, like I couldn't leave Buffalo and then 2:27:57.440 --> 2:27:59.840 have them make the playoffs without me, Like that would 2:28:00.280 --> 2:28:02.160 if I was still playing and Buffalo made the playoffs 2:28:02.160 --> 2:28:02.720 and I wasn't. 2:28:02.560 --> 2:28:04.800 There for it, like that would have crushed me. 2:28:05.040 --> 2:28:06.320 I know, I know we got to go, but like, 2:28:06.600 --> 2:28:08.600 how are you gonna feel if the well Titans win 2:28:08.640 --> 2:28:10.480 the Super Bowl this year? But like if the Bill 2:28:10.520 --> 2:28:12.320 has ever beat the Titans for a Super Bowl, Like, 2:28:12.320 --> 2:28:13.440 how is that going to make you feel? 2:28:14.520 --> 2:28:16.760 I mean, I'm a static for them in success now, 2:28:16.840 --> 2:28:18.560 Like I have no ill will. That's part of the 2:28:18.760 --> 2:28:20.280 that's one of the good things about like your career 2:28:20.320 --> 2:28:22.960 aning the way mine did, Like there's no chance to 2:28:23.040 --> 2:28:25.160 be coming back. I didn't walk away, right, so like 2:28:25.440 --> 2:28:27.280 I can truly just root on those guys, and I 2:28:27.360 --> 2:28:30.240 love those dudes, like Brandon Bean's Like we we've talked 2:28:30.280 --> 2:28:32.240 about you know what happens when we went in the 2:28:32.280 --> 2:28:34.560 Super Bowl, Like am I in the longer room like 2:28:34.640 --> 2:28:37.000 am my parties and it's like you're. 2:28:36.959 --> 2:28:41.280 Everywhere I am. I'm like, I love you, b Yeah, 2:28:41.640 --> 2:28:45.000 get a ring. It does better you get a ring. 2:28:45.520 --> 2:28:48.800 That'd be hard. Yeah, that ring is the coolest thing. Yeah, 2:28:48.840 --> 2:28:50.920 it does suck. Thinking like the team you just left, 2:28:51.000 --> 2:28:53.640 like if they do well, well, I was. I was 2:28:53.720 --> 2:28:57.400 extended to be Josh Allen's center. 2:28:57.520 --> 2:28:59.040 Like they knew they were going to draft a quarterback 2:28:59.080 --> 2:29:01.000 high the next year, so they extended me to be 2:29:01.120 --> 2:29:04.840 like his mentor essentially, which would have been super tight 2:29:04.920 --> 2:29:07.080 to like, yeah, one day walk away and then you 2:29:07.200 --> 2:29:08.560 like poured into someone like Josh. 2:29:08.720 --> 2:29:10.800 Yeah, I was just got all the talent in the world. 2:29:11.040 --> 2:29:13.800 He's unbeliev Yeah, he's unreal. Yeah that's awesome. 2:29:14.080 --> 2:29:15.800 Well appreciate you, bro. Now, well now we'll go ahead 2:29:15.800 --> 2:29:18.080 and in this one for yeah, for real real, Yeah, 2:29:18.360 --> 2:29:19.680 I'm putting the mic on beer.