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Speaker 1: What's up? Boys?

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Speaker 2: Welcome to another episode of Busting with the Boys. I

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Speaker 2: am your host Will Compton, my co host Taylor Lawan.

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Speaker 2: He is in Canada for the next month. The boy

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Speaker 2: is going out his wife Taylor and shout out Taylor,

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Speaker 2: no free shouts of tailing.

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Speaker 1: She is from Canada.

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Speaker 2: She hasn't been home in three years, so they're spending

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Speaker 2: some time out in Canada. The boy's gonna get busy

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Speaker 2: out there. It got the whole gym set up. He's

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Speaker 2: like the fucking rock dude. He's got his Iron Paradise

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Speaker 2: set up out there. They're on a beautiful lake. But

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Speaker 2: he's gonna be living the dream for the next month.

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Speaker 2: But you got your boy. This is gonna be our

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Speaker 2: last week of doing where we drop two episodes. So

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Speaker 2: you're gonna have Eric Wood today and then on Thursday,

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Speaker 2: we got a nice little surprise the boy, the boy

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Speaker 2: George Kittle, he's coming through to co host with me,

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Speaker 2: shout out tight in you a little bit. But this

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Speaker 2: will be the last week for two episodes per week.

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Speaker 2: We go back to our regular programming.

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Speaker 1: I love that.

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Speaker 2: Go back to regular programming. One a week. We drop

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Speaker 2: on Wednesdays. We will change all this stuff for you.

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Speaker 2: We will update you guys on social media at BUSTINWTB,

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Speaker 2: but we are going back to one a week, dropping

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Speaker 2: every Wednesday six am. All audio platforms. Subscribe on Apple, Spotify, Google,

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Speaker 2: all that stuff.

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Speaker 1: You're listening right now. Do the boys a solid.

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Speaker 2: You guys fucking help us out tremendously when you download

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Speaker 2: the episodes, when you subscribe on Subscribe, resubscribe, do all

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Speaker 2: that shit, and then of course video drops on YouTube

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Speaker 2: at noon. This is all central time that I'm talking about.

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Speaker 1: But before we.

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Speaker 2: Get in and everything, we got to shout out the

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Speaker 2: most durable, reliable vehicle on the road.

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Speaker 1: The Chevy Silverado.

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Speaker 2: Strong, dependable just like you folks who drive them, and

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Speaker 2: hopefully a lot of new dads are driving the Chevy

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Speaker 2: Silverado after hopefully their kids or wife bought them a

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Speaker 2: Chevy truck over the weekend. The Chevy Silverado is modernate, advanced,

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Speaker 2: with a ton of grit, a partner in getting things done,

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Speaker 2: especially when it comes to the heart and soul of

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Speaker 2: a pickup truck the bed. With the Silverado, you get

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Speaker 2: the most functional bed of any competitor on the planet.

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Speaker 2: Think Class standard cargo volume.

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Speaker 1: The inner gate.

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Speaker 2: Folds to a large step for easily getting in and

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Speaker 2: out of the bed. Go to a Chevy dealership near

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Speaker 2: Go to a Chevy dealership near you. Let him know

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Speaker 2: that the boys sends you. I think they're gonna throw

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Speaker 2: in a free trailer hitch. The boys like to go

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Speaker 2: to Freeland Chevy right here in the greater Nashville area.

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Speaker 1: But go buy yourself a Chevy Silverado.

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Speaker 2: The Summertimes, The Summertimes, Rolling Fourth of July is coming up.

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Speaker 2: Nothing is more American than being in a Chevy Silverado. Strong, advanced, dependable,

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Speaker 2: and hard working, just like you guys.

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Speaker 1: All right, what can we talk about now? Boys?

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Speaker 2: I don't have my compadre Taylor here. What is new

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Speaker 2: stuff for us? Before we get into talking all things, Eric,

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Speaker 2: would we got some house cleaning we would like to

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Speaker 2: take care of. If you're watching right now, you're gonna

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Speaker 2: see the boys repping a new colorway of the dad hats,

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Speaker 2: the dad ropats. I'm wearing a black one white riding

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Speaker 2: white rope.

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Speaker 1: It is fire. We got a lot of new.

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Speaker 2: Colorways for the for the dad hats, for the girl

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Speaker 2: So be on the lookout for new merch. But we

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Speaker 2: have new merch going on right now. You see your

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Speaker 2: boys rocking. My favorite sure right now of the year

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Speaker 2: is the uh Walmart looking for the boys, fucking eagle

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Speaker 2: talents grabbing the bus, electricity everywhere for the boys in red,

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Speaker 2: white and blue. This is what I'll be repping on

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Speaker 2: the fourth of July. I will probably be repping the

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Speaker 2: new tanks that we created. So we had such a

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Speaker 2: good uh, we had such good feedback with these teas

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Speaker 2: that we have now made them in in tanks possibly cruise. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: there's cruise right there. We got swimming trunks, we got

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Speaker 2: button downs for the summer vibes. We got everything you

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Speaker 2: Click brands on one of the tabs, scroll down just

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Speaker 1: What else?

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Speaker 2: I hit the episodes? How are episodes? We're going back

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Speaker 2: to regular programming. I hit the merchandise, the fire shit

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Speaker 2: that we get. The boys got going on right now?

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Speaker 3: Uh yeah, we you already said something about tightening you,

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Speaker 3: and I'm sure we'll dive into yesday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, tight en You is coming to town. It's currently Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: You guys are listening. Everybody's flying in today. George kitt Ole,

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Speaker 2: Travis Kelsey, Greg Olsen. They are putting these boys like

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Speaker 2: they are having the highest of vibes for like a

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Speaker 2: I probably shouldn't say where they're staying at. I was

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Speaker 2: They're gonna have a lot of camaraderie. They're working with

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Speaker 2: They're doing a lot of good shit. Man, shout out

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Speaker 2: tighten you. Free shouts to the boys, just because they're

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Speaker 2: the boys. Greg he's a big friend of the Pot.

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Speaker 2: He's actually one of the boys. We're hoping to get

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Speaker 2: Greg Olsen on the POT. I have heard room that

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Speaker 2: Josh Allen Buffalo Bill's quarterback is in town.

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Speaker 1: That would be electric. We will do whatever pos.

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Speaker 3: Talk about him on the episode You're about to listen

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Speaker 3: to with Eric Wood.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. Shout out fucking Jack for that

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Speaker 2: heads up play. We talk about Josh Allen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Eric Wood comes on the podcast Boys. He's a former

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Speaker 2: Buffalo Bill. He was forced to retire and end his

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Speaker 2: severe neck injury. The dude number one Jack. I would

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Speaker 2: retiring and you go from fat to fit.

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Speaker 1: Dude.

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Speaker 3: I think when he came on, Taylor was like, that's

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Speaker 1: He's like, got so hyped about it. It was just

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Speaker 2: He's got a bit of a chest though, you know

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Speaker 2: what I mean, Like Taylor, I feel like if he's

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Speaker 1: No I, you's got to get them shelves. You gotta

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Speaker 1: get them shelves on the chest.

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Speaker 3: Google Eric Wood that the photos you see on Google

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Speaker 3: are not the same guy.

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Speaker 1: Dude, Dude, Google Eric Wood.

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Speaker 2: He's got some funny because he's got the curly hair,

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Speaker 2: he's got the blonde curly hair.

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Speaker 1: You can he's got some funny choby picks and dies

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Speaker 1: for ball. He was such a dude. He was all

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Speaker 2: We get into a lot of obviously Buffalo Bill's talk

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Speaker 2: how he dealt with that transition. We kind of dive

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Speaker 2: struggle was like finding that next high, like that that

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Speaker 2: your entire life playing football, dreaming of playing football, being

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Speaker 1: You played at the highest level.

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Speaker 2: You have all these highs, like the stardom, the fame

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Speaker 2: of it? Tells a hilarious Ritchie and Cognito story. We

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Speaker 2: Ryan Fitzpatrick. This was before Fitzmagic retired. Our tear talk

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Speaker 2: You guys might be thinking, I don't know if this

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Speaker 2: a stud, but he's an old lineman. He's not like

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Speaker 2: as conversations go, this was a fucking banger. Boys, I'm

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Speaker 2: telling you, but make sure to subscribe. Raate do all

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Speaker 2: Father's Day. It was my first one. I absolutely loved it.

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Speaker 2: My wife started the morning off with a card, holding

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Speaker 2: the boy, You know how your boy's on his diet shit.

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Speaker 2: But you know, on weekends, we paused a diet from

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Speaker 1: When it was Father's Day.

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh sweet, it's a little late, and

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Speaker 2: it's no free shoutouts. But it's a little late to

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Speaker 2: get bright Side Bakery. And she looked at me and

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Speaker 2: she so sorry, got you, babe. I ordered him for

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Speaker 2: pick up because bright Said bakery sells out.

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Speaker 1: Within an hour.

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Speaker 2: They opened up at eight o'clock. By the time we

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Speaker 2: it sets sold out. But they obviously if you order

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Speaker 2: ahead of time, you go and pick up your box.

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Speaker 2: No free shouts at bright Side Bakery. For the love

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Speaker 2: of God, we would love some gift cards since we're

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Speaker 2: giving you a lot of love because your pastries are

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Speaker 1: And then we went over to Mike Chandler's. Had a great.

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Speaker 2: Pool pool day, get some rays, grilled carnivore diet, and

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Speaker 1: Some high vies.

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Speaker 2: Man, the boy had a stogy. I was in the dream.

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Speaker 2: We had little ruin the pool and stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: But I had a phenomenal Father's day. I hope all

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Speaker 2: the dads you guys did out there as well, and

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Speaker 2: everybody took care of their old man or their husband.

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Speaker 4: Hey, my daughter, My daughter pooped in the toilet yesterday

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Speaker 1: We have two, six and four.

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Speaker 5: Our little boy he was like three and a half,

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Speaker 1: Like girls think it's sick, boys are like screwed.

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Speaker 4: My daughter takes the biggest shits my oldest. Her ships

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Speaker 1: It's unbelievable, dude.

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Speaker 5: And Ryan Fitzpatrick's text chain is eighty percent kids dumps.

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Speaker 1: Each other. Yeah. Yeah, his youngest is three, and he

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Speaker 4: Uh but even this morning, like when you come in parents,

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Speaker 4: See what they were all about it. It's weird. Things

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Speaker 4: But you know what I'm saying, Like my daughter will

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, you're trying to

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Speaker 5: Little boys or different animals, especially if they're the second

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Speaker 5: Why is it, I don't know. It's like something about

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Speaker 1: The second one. I don't know why. It's like, get

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Speaker 2: I mean Cody, Cody's more of, like a way more

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Speaker 4: Deal a little different for me because my brother, my

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Speaker 4: He always came home, did his homework, first star athlete,

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Speaker 4: I'm the oldest. It's definitely flips now though. Did you

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Speaker 4: drink formula? I did for a little bit. Yeah, I

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Speaker 4: But you're talking about Ryan Fitzpatrick, like, hey, everybuddy I've

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Speaker 1: You, like I missed him.

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Speaker 4: I was like a year before year after he was

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Speaker 1: What he is.

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Speaker 5: He's got absolutely no ego, which is not super rare

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Speaker 5: but fairly rare for a quarterback. They have zero ego,

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Speaker 5: Like go into a game like Fitch, you've got to

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Speaker 1: But he has no ego.

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Speaker 5: I always say everyone from the mailman in the building

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Speaker 5: to the GM to every player, he's everybody's favorite dude.

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Speaker 5: He's not like a party animal off the field, but

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Speaker 5: he's just he gets along with everybody, and everybody's walcome

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Speaker 5: but like everybody on the team's welcome at his house,

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Speaker 5: he's just he's the real deal. But it's it's consistency,

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Speaker 5: you know what I mean, Like no ego. Every single day,

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Speaker 5: comes in, ready, works, works his stay off, not in

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Speaker 4: Guy No, like he's got a great like chest, hair, body, though.

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying that dad bod Yeah he does.

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Speaker 4: He's got a great style about him.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but like he'll drive a strength coach nuts, but

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Speaker 5: he will grind on some film. But hard work are great. Dude,

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Speaker 5: one of my best friends of this day. You got

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Speaker 5: it hasn't come out yet, and I have no idea

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Speaker 5: how I gotta show you what he wore to the

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Speaker 1: We should want So there's him and his brother just

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Speaker 1: phenomenal beards. It's unreal, like these suit jackets with teal. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I feel like his popularity probably went up even more

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Speaker 4: And then gmcgregor and then the ego. The rest are

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Speaker 4: bills with you, Yeah he did. He give you the

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Speaker 1: God, that's like his go to gift.

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Speaker 4: That's his go to gift for a guy with no ego,

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Speaker 5: People see them, they're like, is that Zach Brown because

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Speaker 5: But when he got his extension with the Bills, that

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Speaker 5: No, not at all, but that was kind of mid tier,

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Speaker 1: and you guys came in.

437
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Speaker 5: When you guys came in, there was a spending floor,

438
00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,440
Speaker 5: like teams had to spend a certain amount. Not when

439
00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,000
Speaker 5: I first got in the league, like our team, when

440
00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:09,000
Speaker 5: I look back at my rookie year, we had a

441
00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:13,960
Speaker 5: few big names that could sell some tickets too, Lee Evans,

442
00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,760
Speaker 5: our quarterback was Trent Edward's fits was the backup at first.

443
00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:20,200
Speaker 5: But like we were terrible and we spent no money,

444
00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,200
Speaker 5: like really back It's like, man, that wasn't even fair,

445
00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:25,080
Speaker 5: Like we were out there risking our bodies and like

446
00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:27,159
Speaker 5: we weren't even putting the money out there to do it.

447
00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:30,440
Speaker 5: But our owner, Ralph wils was on his deathbed. So

448
00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,720
Speaker 5: you have other people like can we spend all this money?

449
00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:34,840
Speaker 1: Can we do this? Do that?

450
00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,320
Speaker 5: Google has a bought the team totally different. Look how

451
00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:38,400
Speaker 5: they're spending money now, Like I.

452
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Speaker 1: Have no idea.

453
00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,320
Speaker 5: I had no idea how Brandon Bean has gotten all

454
00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:43,720
Speaker 5: these guys under the cap. This year they're bringing in everybody.

455
00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,479
Speaker 5: They're bringing von They do josh As deal. Last year

456
00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:50,120
Speaker 5: they just redo digs deal, de Kwan Jones. They bring

457
00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,639
Speaker 5: him in, Rod and Staffold you know, which is funny.

458
00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:55,280
Speaker 5: And we got to get to talking the Little Bills

459
00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:59,720
Speaker 5: Titans at some point. Absolutely the Bill's nemesis, like last

460
00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:02,080
Speaker 5: year was teams that can get physical with him, which

461
00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,119
Speaker 5: everybody built their defenses now to defend the Chiefs in

462
00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:06,840
Speaker 5: the AOC. And then you get a team like you

463
00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:08,800
Speaker 5: guys and just run over them. Well, now I think

464
00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:10,560
Speaker 5: they're like, man, we need a little bit of that attitude.

465
00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:12,639
Speaker 5: And then they just go right to the Titans, bring me,

466
00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,800
Speaker 5: bring in Saffold and Dai Kwan Jones and you know

467
00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:17,720
Speaker 5: them way better than me. But I think they think

468
00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,120
Speaker 5: they're gonna come in and be more tone setters for them.

469
00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,159
Speaker 4: Yeah, Rogers one of the best run blocking guards I've

470
00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:23,000
Speaker 4: ever seen in my life.

471
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Speaker 1: Good, he's average.

472
00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:32,080
Speaker 4: Cost me for my life, bro, it's not even as

473
00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:35,280
Speaker 4: well like I've seen him do that to everybody, bro everything.

474
00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:36,760
Speaker 1: The only person I han't seen him do that to

475
00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:37,480
Speaker 1: his high tower.

476
00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:39,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, he would just try and make me feel better,

477
00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:41,159
Speaker 2: but I'd be like, hey, comp I got I got

478
00:19:41,240 --> 00:19:42,879
Speaker 2: somebody this week, and then he'd like show me in

479
00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:43,160
Speaker 2: a beg.

480
00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,840
Speaker 1: Well I do feel better than yeah, just just everybody.

481
00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:47,520
Speaker 1: But what's the weakness of his game?

482
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Speaker 4: Why is is I'm not here to I'm not here

483
00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:50,720
Speaker 4: to talk about Rogers weeks.

484
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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna soil my boy. He was okay, so uh.

485
00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,880
Speaker 4: I will tell you like Roger's conditioning is incredible. He's

486
00:19:57,920 --> 00:19:59,960
Speaker 4: a hard worker. He's always grunning in the weight room.

487
00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:01,000
Speaker 1: I think.

488
00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,080
Speaker 4: I think he's gonna do really well at the Bills.

489
00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:05,800
Speaker 4: It seems like your coach is a guy that kind

490
00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:07,720
Speaker 4: of keeps hit guys together, like kind of.

491
00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:08,320
Speaker 1: Like Rabel does.

492
00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:10,520
Speaker 4: He's got to lead a leader of men mentality, and

493
00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:12,480
Speaker 4: he guys got all the pieces already.

494
00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:14,840
Speaker 1: The Bills are that fucking team.

495
00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,320
Speaker 4: I came at the Bills I think after it was

496
00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,919
Speaker 4: like my first game back from suspension, and I started

497
00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:23,680
Speaker 4: talking shit to Shaq laws in Shack Lawson, Yeah out

498
00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:25,600
Speaker 4: of nowhere and the Bills and this is like not

499
00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:29,760
Speaker 4: even really playing, and they the Bills mafia fucked my

500
00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:30,720
Speaker 4: world up on Twitter.

501
00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,320
Speaker 1: Absolutely strong, dude. They are so strong.

502
00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:36,919
Speaker 4: It's like you want that as as a player, Like

503
00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,199
Speaker 4: you want your fan base to be like that. And

504
00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,360
Speaker 4: even for me, like going to see those fan base,

505
00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,840
Speaker 4: it's like it's fucking wild out there. Yeah, valls are

506
00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:47,080
Speaker 4: the same way. Shout out Jack back there, the volunteers

507
00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,880
Speaker 4: go hard. But yeah, I think I think Roger's gonna

508
00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:51,840
Speaker 4: do a great job.

509
00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,760
Speaker 5: Aaron Kromer, who he had in LA right, Yeah, Yeah,

510
00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:58,040
Speaker 5: Chromer's awesome. I played for Chromer. He's one of the

511
00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,199
Speaker 5: best offensive line coach in the league. He's like he

512
00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,840
Speaker 5: learned under Howard Mudd and Bill Callahan, so he's got

513
00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,040
Speaker 5: like a little bit of that, like we're tougher than them,

514
00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:06,800
Speaker 5: go drive them off the ball. But then he teaches

515
00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:08,600
Speaker 5: you what I called the ninja tricks of o line,

516
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,879
Speaker 5: like grapping the hand down the hand, reach around, grabbed

517
00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:12,320
Speaker 5: their hip.

518
00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:12,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

519
00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:14,440
Speaker 5: I did it to Bobby Wagner at the Pro Bowl

520
00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,439
Speaker 5: one time, Like I let him get past me, and

521
00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,119
Speaker 5: then we were running outside and so I just grabbed

522
00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,520
Speaker 5: his opposite hip and just threw him up towards the field.

523
00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:21,840
Speaker 1: Yeah.

524
00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,440
Speaker 5: Bobby turned around like, what the hell was that little

525
00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,120
Speaker 5: ninja trick? Brother, litt ninja trick?

526
00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:26,400
Speaker 1: Yeah?

527
00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:26,720
Speaker 6: You know.

528
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:27,560
Speaker 1: Uh.

529
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Speaker 4: When I was at the Pro Bowl in sixteen, the

530
00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,399
Speaker 4: coaches were I think the the San Diego Chargers at

531
00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:36,080
Speaker 4: the time, and the line coach was like literally teaching

532
00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,720
Speaker 4: that to us in the individual drill. Yeah, I believe

533
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:39,600
Speaker 4: that was I don't know.

534
00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,800
Speaker 5: It was Aaron's assistant, Thrumer's assistant in Buffalo.

535
00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:44,720
Speaker 1: He was incredible. He was like, all you got to

536
00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:45,520
Speaker 1: do is grab the hip.

537
00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,640
Speaker 4: So I like, you know, our on line coach at

538
00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,159
Speaker 4: the Titans, He's very like, this is how you do it.

539
00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:52,679
Speaker 1: That's how you do it. There's no other way to

540
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:53,560
Speaker 1: do it. This is the way.

541
00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,800
Speaker 4: And I pulled one of those out in Houston, like

542
00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:58,520
Speaker 4: grabbed the dude's hip. He totally beat me off. The

543
00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,960
Speaker 4: ball got to step through him. I was like fifteen yards.

544
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,960
Speaker 4: I'm like, fuck, that shit works. Every ref around was like, hey,

545
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:05,520
Speaker 4: don't do that. I know, you know, they kind of

546
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 4: gave me the warning. But yards were made, baby, I

547
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,879
Speaker 4: know I was about it. Yeah, those little tricks are something.

548
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:13,919
Speaker 4: The issue with having tricks as an offense alignment is

549
00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:16,200
Speaker 4: a lot of guys like to use that as like

550
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 4: their fastball, when it's like, no, that's a change up.

551
00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,119
Speaker 4: You gotta if you want to flash the hand, do

552
00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,399
Speaker 4: you want to jump set or like different things like

553
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:24,119
Speaker 4: you gotta have your go to every time and then

554
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:25,360
Speaker 4: a switch up to keep him on their toes.

555
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,680
Speaker 1: No doubt at center, you can't really do it a tackle.

556
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:29,880
Speaker 5: But my biggest changeup was like, and I would only

557
00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 5: do it if I had a dude who I was

558
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,200
Speaker 5: gonna struggle with in passpor but take my off hand

559
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,440
Speaker 5: and just pop them right on the forehead.

560
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:37,639
Speaker 4: That's a big thing for centers, right. You know, do

561
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:39,560
Speaker 4: you ever do you ever meet a David Molk? He

562
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 4: played for the Eagles and the Charges for a little bit,

563
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 4: hit a couple of coffee in the league.

564
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:45,959
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he was the Remington Award winner. Yeah, he had.

565
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,040
Speaker 4: He won the Remington Award at Michigan, And that was

566
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 4: his big thing is if there was a dude.

567
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 1: He was a smaller guys, strong as a Knox though.

568
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:53,920
Speaker 4: He's like anytime the guys didn't give an issue, I

569
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:55,919
Speaker 4: fucking just jammed right in the face right away and

570
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 4: then back up and then guy's kind of disoriented.

571
00:22:57,880 --> 00:22:58,920
Speaker 1: Yep, it's a genius move.

572
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,000
Speaker 5: And then you buy a second and most pass plays

573
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:02,919
Speaker 5: left two and a half seconds, so now you got

574
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:04,439
Speaker 5: a second and a half the block of guys opposed

575
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 5: to two and a half seconds. Yeah, but you can't

576
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 5: do it every time, and then the refs don't like

577
00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:10,440
Speaker 5: it either, right, because it catches them off guard, like, well,

578
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 5: what'd you do is the hands of the face. I'm like, yeah,

579
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 5: I mean I threw my hand to hit him in

580
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 5: the chest. He ducked his head. I mean, yeah, exactly.

581
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 1: And there's always a greary.

582
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:19,359
Speaker 4: It's kind of like at their discretion when they can

583
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 4: call it because you can grab the face mask if

584
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 4: you pull off. Some refs are cooler about that. But

585
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:25,119
Speaker 4: if you just have it up there for a little bit,

586
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 4: your ass is getting called.

587
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 1: Oh, no doubt about it.

588
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:31,120
Speaker 5: And like for me, the umpires behind me so all

589
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,240
Speaker 5: the time, Like I'm a taller center, so all the

590
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,480
Speaker 5: time people get me right under the chin and just

591
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:37,959
Speaker 5: drive me back. I'm like, turn it around midplay, like

592
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:39,879
Speaker 5: what but they can't see through you.

593
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:40,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

594
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,400
Speaker 4: And also the quarterbacks right behind you have the running back.

595
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:43,639
Speaker 4: You guys are kind of in a little cluster.

596
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 1: I know.

597
00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:47,160
Speaker 4: In the beginning of my career it was I didn't

598
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:48,679
Speaker 4: play the game with the refs. It was like, you know,

599
00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 4: butter them up, shake their hands, house life, Oh you

600
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:53,199
Speaker 4: had kids, the whole thing. I didn't do that, So

601
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:54,840
Speaker 4: I do something they would the a fact, I mean

602
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:59,600
Speaker 4: a flag at me. Hey, that was just a misfranspronunciation.

603
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,360
Speaker 4: Please don't come at the boy, but they would throw

604
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 4: a flag and I'd get it. I'd be like, what

605
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:05,440
Speaker 4: the fuck are you doing kind of go at them.

606
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:06,919
Speaker 4: And as I've gotten older, I was like, you just

607
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 4: they're humans, So if you're just nice to them a

608
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,040
Speaker 4: little bit, they'll come work with you.

609
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 1: And now you start to know the guys and stuff

610
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:13,879
Speaker 1: like that. It's a it's.

611
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 5: Chess, dude, early different games it is. Earlier in my career,

612
00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 5: I thought I was coach k out there. I mean

613
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,160
Speaker 5: I was all over the refs, hammering them, hammering them.

614
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,600
Speaker 5: I had back to back double holding call games, which

615
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 5: is an offensive line, just absolute nightmare sound games a

616
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:29,959
Speaker 5: year four and I was like, man, I need a

617
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,160
Speaker 5: totally different approach. I went into every game the rest

618
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 5: of my career knew the umpire's name. If we had

619
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,120
Speaker 5: them before, It's like, okay, when do we have him,

620
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:37,359
Speaker 5: I'll talk to him about that.

621
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,639
Speaker 1: Hey, here's what I'm gonna do with my silent count today.

622
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:41,879
Speaker 5: Let me know if there's an issue, Hey, did you

623
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:43,000
Speaker 5: see anything on film?

624
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 1: Alignment issues?

625
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:46,680
Speaker 5: Give us a warning and dude, the whole game, they'd

626
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,879
Speaker 5: be like, get your tackle up. Is it supposed to

627
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 5: throw in the flag? It's like, man, why the heck

628
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:52,800
Speaker 5: what did I do with that? The whole time of

629
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:54,159
Speaker 5: my career. But I was also a little bit of

630
00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 5: a psychopath early my career. My rookie year at at Tennessee,

631
00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 5: Dan and Bosh played Nebraska with one of my teammates

632
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 5: and good buddes, Chris Kelsey, who just absolute meatheads.

633
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 1: Well, I basketbays I got.

634
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 5: I was playing guards at the time, and I just

635
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,159
Speaker 5: wiped Van and Bosh out of the pocket, got him

636
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:12,640
Speaker 5: pretty good.

637
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 1: One time he was bull rushing our tackle.

638
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,199
Speaker 5: Well, we throw a pick six, and it's like a

639
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 5: quick pick six, so the dude runs in the end zone.

640
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 1: They got off a hitch or something like that, like

641
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:22,160
Speaker 1: in the third minute.

642
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,919
Speaker 5: And Vandon Bosh after they scored, comes and just wipes

643
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,680
Speaker 5: me out fifteen yard penalty, big fine, and Any went

644
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 5: in the locker room after the game, didn't even shake

645
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:29,960
Speaker 5: hands with Kelsey.

646
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 1: His college roommate goes like, what the hell did you

647
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 1: do to Vandabosh.

648
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 5: I was like, dude, I was wearing him out there

649
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,120
Speaker 5: another games, like talking so much trash if he's probably

650
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,640
Speaker 5: thirty five years old, Like, well, this dude, just shut

651
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 5: up and leave me alone.

652
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 1: They're smoking us, like out there having fun.

653
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 4: The thing about like coming going into guys like when

654
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 4: you slide in slide protection or something like that, the

655
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:50,919
Speaker 4: three technique makes an inside move and he's gonna fuck

656
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 4: them up or something like that. That's kind of gone

657
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:54,879
Speaker 4: away a little bit. They're definitely big on, like no

658
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 4: blindside heads or so they don't even weird wiping out

659
00:25:58,080 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 4: the pocket.

660
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 1: It's weird. Yet Ben was one of the best at that.

661
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:02,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like Ben would sit there, he had nothing to

662
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,400
Speaker 4: do and go smoke somebody and hear him his big

663
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 4: hit ass just kind of laughing in the corner as

664
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,880
Speaker 4: he did something. But they're like they're kind of big on, like, hey,

665
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 4: don't do that anymore, which sucks because for me, if

666
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 4: I have like a two I or a nose and

667
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 4: I have an end right here and he's gonna bull

668
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:18,959
Speaker 4: rush me, like I want my guard to couldn't clean

669
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 4: that up. Or if he goes inside, I want my

670
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 4: guard to fuck him up a little bit because he knows, like,

671
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 4: all right, we gotta play the outside game now. Now

672
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 4: we're playing basketball, and that's that's my game, you know

673
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Especially in pass bro.

674
00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:29,479
Speaker 1: No doubt about it. I know it.

675
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 5: I would always try and set vertical off the ball,

676
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:33,880
Speaker 5: make that three technique, think he had a two way

677
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 5: go and think he could spin and man, you catch.

678
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 5: There's no better feeling as a center than when you

679
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,119
Speaker 5: see that three technique spin and you know you're just

680
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,120
Speaker 5: gonna clean him as soon as he turns his head.

681
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 1: Did you see Quentin Nelson?

682
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 4: I think it was like two years ago against the

683
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 4: Chargers Melvin Ingram and he does spin move, uh.

684
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,679
Speaker 1: Laid him down? H Yeah? What was his name? The Castro?

685
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 4: No, not, the Castro was a guard, Castanza, the left tackle.

686
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 4: He does spin on him and he fucking cleans them,

687
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,360
Speaker 4: absolutely murder. It was one of the most beautiful blocking plays.

688
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,679
Speaker 5: Where Nelson does things on a football field for a

689
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 5: guard that just like shouldn't happen.

690
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 1: What do you think it makes him so special? I

691
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 1: think he's really smart.

692
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 5: Now he's like super talented, but I think the way

693
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 5: he the way he's able to pick stuff up and

694
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 5: what he does now he's mean, but then like he

695
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 5: plays with a ton of attitude. But then you'll hear

696
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:20,479
Speaker 5: him miked up and he like picks a dude up,

697
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 5: like hey, my bad or you all right, yeah, how

698
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 5: do you switch it on?

699
00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:24,400
Speaker 1: And not like that?

700
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 5: Like I'm either like like I hated playing against domeatop

701
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 5: Peco because he was so nice. He would get me

702
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:33,679
Speaker 5: out of my game, right, he has the fan and

703
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 5: so like the whole game he'd be like, butter me up,

704
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 5: and then all of a sudden he like gets my

705
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 5: hand and like hits the quarterback. I'm like like you

706
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,440
Speaker 5: got me, you got me, And so like I don't

707
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 5: know how Quinn Nelson turns it on and off. But

708
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,439
Speaker 5: he's got a great combination of size, speed, strength, and

709
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 5: then I think he's really smart.

710
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, he does a lot of stuff.

711
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 4: He gets away with a lot of stuff as far

712
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 4: as like grabbing guys in the outside. He's got a

713
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,199
Speaker 4: great reputation. I know a lot of guards like to

714
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 4: talk trash on him, but that's my boy.

715
00:27:59,200 --> 00:27:59,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

716
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 4: The thing is when you work out with him, guy's

717
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,120
Speaker 4: got a tank like no one else. When it comes conditioning,

718
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 4: he can just roll all day. He's talking shit. But

719
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,199
Speaker 4: then you go and like hang out and he's like

720
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 4: super mild manner, the nicest guy in the world.

721
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 1: Like he's just awesome to be around, even around cue.

722
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 1: He's a sweetheart. He's a sweetheart, dude. You just look

723
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:15,959
Speaker 1: at him.

724
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 4: You're like, this, dude's a fucking tank, right, just a

725
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 4: massive individual, individual, giant traps like kind of walks around

726
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 4: and it's just like hold monster.

727
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,320
Speaker 5: When they stuck came out at left tackle, he really

728
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 5: showed off his athleticism.

729
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of guards can pop out the player.

730
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:31,159
Speaker 1: Yeah that's wild.

731
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 5: That's a different animal playing left tackle. You bump out

732
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 5: the right and you got the tight end on your

733
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 5: side and all that.

734
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: It's fine.

735
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 5: You got the left tackle on an open edge against

736
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 5: the defensive ends that are going to go against you,

737
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 5: and they just pop him out there and.

738
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 1: He just doesn't even blink. It unbelievable. Just a couple

739
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 1: of hogs talking ball.

740
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 2: I love the old war story. You say one, Taylor

741
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 2: thinks about a memory, He says one. You remember, you

742
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,280
Speaker 2: say one. Both pro bowlers just hogs in the trenches.

743
00:28:58,360 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 1: Dude.

744
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 5: You I looked over and saw your busting hat and like,

745
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 5: my wife is always cool, Like we're down here celebrating

746
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 5: our tenure aiversary and I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna go,

747
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 5: thank you, thank you, And uh so she wanted to

748
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 5: take a nap anyways before the Garth concert tonight, but

749
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,080
Speaker 5: I was like, hey, I'm gonna go to a podcast

750
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 5: and we listened to the Pat McAfee one on the

751
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:18,200
Speaker 5: way down.

752
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 1: Like she knew who Pat was. We listened to that

753
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 1: on the drive down.

754
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 5: But we were walking around the Gulch today and someone

755
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 5: had one on one of those hatches, like someone random,

756
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 5: and I was like, that's the podcast and she's like,

757
00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 5: that's pretty tight that, Like people were just walking around

758
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 5: Nashville with the year on it. I know a bunch

759
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,480
Speaker 5: of people do that like that like set it in

760
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 5: so and that it was like pretty cool.

761
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: I podcast, no doubt about it.

762
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, with a real deal Like this is a huge,

763
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 4: great point everybody listening right everybody listening right now needs

764
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:43,960
Speaker 4: to go.

765
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 1: To our merch store and cops some merse bussing through.

766
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 4: That's probably in all of our links, your Twitter, my Twitter,

767
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 4: Everyone's Twitter.

768
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be in the link.

769
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 4: But yeah, dude, it's crazy how Nashville is kind of

770
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 4: like taking us in. You know, it's been Willow and

771
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 4: played here for two years, had a little bug fly.

772
00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:05,600
Speaker 4: Yeah it's just one year, bro, and it's crazy because

773
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 4: you will go out now and any like, if I

774
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 4: go anywhere, it's like I get at least one the boys.

775
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 4: I'm like walking mindy, kind of like throw up a

776
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 4: quick deuce as you're walking.

777
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 5: I've heard you guys talk about this over the years.

778
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 5: Has it quieted down as far as Oh Taylor had

779
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 5: a holding call, must be too worried about the podcast?

780
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:21,400
Speaker 5: Like has that quieted down?

781
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 4: I think we've quieted it down in our heads, like

782
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 4: it's fine.

783
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 1: It's once.

784
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 4: It's like no, no, it's yeah, it's just as bad

785
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 4: as it was. I think, like what people don't realize

786
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 4: is every NFL player is doing something in the off season, right,

787
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 4: whether it's playing video games, whether it's doing this real

788
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 4: estate deal, whether you're trying to have your money they

789
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 4: made in the league make more money. I'm just doing

790
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 4: it on a public platform that everyone can see, right.

791
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 4: That's what people really don't understand. It is like we

792
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 4: show up here for an hour and a half and

793
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 4: I take a couple hours throughout my day and like

794
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 4: tweet and do shit and fuck around, and that's really like, right,

795
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 4: and we're just doing something months that's up, dude.

796
00:30:58,920 --> 00:30:59,920
Speaker 1: If I just caught that. I know.

797
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 2: I was hype and I could do it, but the

798
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 2: other of us got and I'm thinking, I'm gonna snatch

799
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 2: this thing.

800
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 1: Oh you lying, but yeah it is, Yeah, go ahead.

801
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 1: I was gonna say.

802
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 2: I feel like, like if I'm a fan and I'm

803
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 2: thinking about Taylor and chirping Taylor, like the holding calls

804
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 2: and stuff like that, because I've I've kind of seen

805
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 2: it happen, right like the first year it started. It

806
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 2: was after my first year at the title. Yeah, I

807
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 2: catch trace. But it's hilarious though. I mean, obviously I

808
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 2: love this.

809
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 4: So they'll blame you if Taylor does something bad.

810
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: No, I mean I might get tagged and stuff. People

811
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 1: won't like blame me.

812
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 6: I might.

813
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 2: They might barely say something, and then I'll make it

814
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 2: seem like they're actually trying to blame me just to

815
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 2: fucking have fun with it. But like, so the first

816
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 2: time you got to see it, Taylor was coming off

817
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 2: the ped suspension. That's when we first started the podcast,

818
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 2: So Taylor was in a suspension.

819
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 1: I was.

820
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 2: I got hurt in New Orleans, so I wasn't playing

821
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 2: either the first part of the year. So Taylor's going

822
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 2: back and playing and he's you know, whether it's a

823
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,920
Speaker 2: holding penalty or jump a false art penalty or something

824
00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 2: like that.

825
00:31:58,280 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 1: Like there's a lot of truth.

826
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,239
Speaker 2: It was very new is year one, right, and we

827
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 2: were the only NFL to players doing that, and uh

828
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 2: so there would be a lot of trips there to

829
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 2: where like made you tight because it was our first

830
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 2: year doing it.

831
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 1: Even made me uncomfortable. I'm like, fuck, should we even.

832
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 2: Be doing this right now that we've gotten used to

833
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 2: it and it's it's been established, like Taylor proves that

834
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 2: he does both things. Now, if you're a troll trying

835
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 2: to get in, I won't say our heads like Taylor's

836
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 2: head or something like that, or try to make it

837
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 2: seem like something. You actually need to see him mess

838
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 2: up for real to even say anything. Because now, like

839
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,600
Speaker 2: you know, the tier ones, like everybody out there understands

840
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 2: the game and they understand if anybody says anything, everybody's

841
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 2: jumping on this person, like let them know like that

842
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 2: you're being a fucking idiot, right, do me a favor?

843
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: Shut the fuck up? Type of yeah, right, If.

844
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 2: I'm like, if I'm chirping in year one and now

845
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 2: I've kind of cooled off because of whether we've snap

846
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 2: back or people snap back at you. Now you actually

847
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 2: need to see one of us fail to try and

848
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 2: really reach in there and try to grind somebody's gears.

849
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: That's how I kind of see the development over there.

850
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 5: Right, because you have to interact with the audience or

851
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 5: else you don't want to.

852
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: Build it up.

853
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 2: Oh you put it on, Nick Lombardi, the Titans gonna

854
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 2: won by at least twenty eight points of Taylor One

855
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 2: didn't have a podcast.

856
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 5: That's It's like, you have to be active on social

857
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 5: media to promote a podcast, so you're going to see

858
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 5: that stuff. Otherwise I'd be like, dude, just completely ignore it,

859
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 5: just go about your business. But you can't do that

860
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 5: because you're trying to promote the podcast in the brand.

861
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 4: And it's a super dramatic change for me. Like you're

862
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,840
Speaker 4: talking about turning it on and off like during the season.

863
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 4: I'm kind of like not really on social media. I

864
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 4: am on social media, but on like a normal person

865
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 4: amount you know what I'm saying. Like right now, it's

866
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 4: like a coble hours a day during the bars a day,

867
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,479
Speaker 4: and we fuck around. We treat we treated like a

868
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 4: like a group text like We're always like chirping. All

869
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 4: the boys are always talking and stuff like that, and

870
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 4: it's just fun. Like the whole thing are you're just

871
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 4: fighting chirps on this Twitter right now? I just feel

872
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:51,800
Speaker 4: like laughs in the back.

873
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 1: What did you say, Oh, Taylor want podcast? Yeah? So like,

874
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 1: but the thing that.

875
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 4: Will was talking about that's super cool is like, as

876
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 4: we've gotten going and like these year ones are kind

877
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 4: of like just riding and dying with us, Like we

878
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 4: have our own little like kind of squad that like

879
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 4: just kind of loves us and we love them back,

880
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 4: and they kind of just go for bat, like go

881
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 4: to bat.

882
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,919
Speaker 1: For us, which is awesome. That's awesome. Weird. Week one

883
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 1: was tough.

884
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 2: Week one was Week one was hard. Taylor Jones and stuff.

885
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 2: He's on the Cardinals. Their social media.

886
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 4: Share social media posted a picture of Tandler Jones and

887
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 4: it said h busting with the Boys on top of it.

888
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I go.

889
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 4: Taylor Jones was with the boys Now the only game

890
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 4: of my life where I was like, how do I

891
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 4: get the fuck out of here?

892
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,359
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Taylor came back in the game,

893
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 1: he got booed like it was fucking up there.

894
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 2: I'm sitting up there like, oh shits sitting with my wife.

895
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was it coming off the A C L.

896
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 1: Was it just certain, like you.

897
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 4: Know, I could go sit here and have a lot

898
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 4: of excuses, like I think, like the strength, the conditioning,

899
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 4: the confidence just wasn't there at that point.

900
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

901
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 4: And it took me, like I would say, almost half

902
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 4: the season to kind of start feeling like okay, like

903
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 4: I'm going back to doing my thing. But I was

904
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 4: even telling Mike, just Mike on the podcast yesterday when

905
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 4: he was on that you know, even at the end

906
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 4: of the season, my leg's not as strong as it was,

907
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 4: and I'm like, how am I blocking guys now?

908
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 1: Like there was never like a true confidence during the season.

909
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,240
Speaker 1: Towards the end it got a whole lot better.

910
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,399
Speaker 4: But yeah, it was just it was just up and down,

911
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 4: especially and there was a bunch of issues with the

912
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 4: knee there. I had like a bunch of I got

913
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 4: a toe thing at one point at the next thing,

914
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 4: and it was just like a whole bunch of shit.

915
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, like I can't, just I can't.

916
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 4: I was the tourniquid at to stop the bleeding and

917
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 4: so but it's been all that that's happened has made

918
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 4: me much more present and grateful for what I'm doing now.

919
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 1: Wow, because I wasn't allowed to.

920
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 4: I couldn't even run till like June last year, And

921
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:39,919
Speaker 4: today I just ran a ship lo I, I damn

922
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 4: near passed that on the football field, and I was like,

923
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 4: this is just fucking awesome.

924
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 1: It's just cool to do it and and like really

925
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 1: enjoy it.

926
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 4: And it's like the ebbs and flows of football, of

927
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 4: anything you really do in life. Those lows make those

928
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 4: highs feel so much better. I'm stoked. I'm stoked for

929
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 4: this year. I think it's gonna be awesome. I think

930
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 4: we got a squad on us. I think the Bills rip,

931
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 4: but you know we won the last Everyone thought Rogers

932
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 4: was going to go somewhere. I'm like, I know he

933
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 4: ain't going to the a f C.

934
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:07,880
Speaker 1: He's not. He's not popping over there to compete with

935
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 1: all those It's crazy. AFC's like the juggernaut right now,

936
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: I know it. It's wild. It got Brady didn't jump over.

937
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 1: West is a juggernaut.

938
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,280
Speaker 5: If I was playing offensive line in the a f C, West,

939
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 5: I would just be like just trade me. You know

940
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 5: what I mean if you're a tackle out there. I

941
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 5: mean they've picked up so many pass rushers.

942
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 4: Out there, Leil Mack and Joey Boss on the Chargers,

943
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 4: you got Chandler and uh, your boy Crosby on the Raiders.

944
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 4: You got Frank Clark and Chris Jones on the Chiefs.

945
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 4: And then who's the last one in that division, Denver

946
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 4: and you got Bradley Chubb over there too. Yeah, it's

947
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 4: a fucking studs. Like, hey, boys, buckle your fucking chin

948
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 4: straps a little tighter.

949
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 1: Good luck on the inside, it's not. In fact, the

950
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:58,760
Speaker 1: Titans play the a FC West is here nice especially

951
00:36:58,760 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: I get trade.

952
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 5: Bill's brought in von Miller and I was stoked about that.

953
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 5: I love Vaughn, loved him forever.

954
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 1: He thought on Vina, where is that his crew right now?

955
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 5: Well, I think the Bills are as good as anybody

956
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 5: at managing players' bodies. They brought in my last year,

957
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,319
Speaker 5: they brought in these this. I don't think there are

958
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 5: a couple, but a male and a female. Both their

959
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 5: names are Joe Joe and Joe Sure. They're both from London.

960
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,959
Speaker 5: They worked in Premier League soccer forever managing player's body.

961
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 5: So they came in and basically oversaw everything, and they're like, no,

962
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 5: I think these guys any more.

963
00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 1: Rest days and all that.

964
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,479
Speaker 5: Like if you watch the Bills injury port throughout the week,

965
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,280
Speaker 5: they give more players rest days than anybody in the league.

966
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,480
Speaker 5: Stefan Diggs, everyone's like, man, he's having a down year

967
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 5: last year. Well, they managed like even his catches throughout

968
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 5: the year, like they didn't want they only wanted him

969
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 5: get a certain amount of touches. I think this wasn't public,

970
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 5: but I believe it was because they don't only want

971
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 5: to get him certain amount touches. And they asked Josh

972
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 5: Allen about it, and he like didn't say it wasn't

973
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 5: the case, so you just assume it probably was. But

974
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 5: like they even manage his touches. So all that being said,

975
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 5: the Bills in nemesist this year was past rush period.

976
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 5: If they had eight guy like eight quality defensive lineman.

977
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 5: But as you know, like one superstar in the D line.

978
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 5: You'd rather face a team with one superstar or sorry,

979
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 5: eight quality guys than a team with like three scrubs

980
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,319
Speaker 5: out there and one superstar because you got the game

981
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 5: plan all around him. We had no one you truly

982
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,560
Speaker 5: had a game plan for, and you could probably tell

983
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 5: me if I'm wrong there.

984
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, Addison, I think Addison's got a nice little bag

985
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 4: of tricks for sure. I think Jerry Hughes, even in

986
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 4: year twelve a super slippery quality like, does a great

987
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 4: job especially against the play action pass. Like he doesn't

988
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 4: necessarily butt you up every time in the run game.

989
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 4: So in play action when you're trying to go get him,

990
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 4: he makes the inside move. That's a tough Yeah, that's

991
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 4: a tough deal. So you gotta be aware of that

992
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 4: stuff a lot. But the way you guys cycled the

993
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 4: guys in and now, I think Jerry Hughes when we

994
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 4: played J'aell had the most amount of snaps of the

995
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 4: defensive line.

996
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:43,840
Speaker 1: That was fifty five percent. Wow.

997
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 4: So and you guys just had a slew. Do I

998
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 4: think that rookie? I think he was either a rookie

999
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 4: lot or so.

1000
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:49,760
Speaker 1: Yes.

1001
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 4: And then aj Panessa at Panessa, I think he got

1002
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 4: a whole lot better. I was watching against Miami. Now,

1003
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,359
Speaker 4: Miami didn't have the best offensive line, right yeah, And

1004
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 4: that's you your words, not mine, But I don't agree disagree,

1005
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 4: and I think he was he was doing.

1006
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: When I was watching film, I was like.

1007
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 4: Holy fucked, yeah, this dude is just putting dudes in

1008
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 4: a blender right now. Like he had some moves, good,

1009
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 4: nice double arm swipe, had get bender on the edge.

1010
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 1: But I think a guy like Vaughn, you.

1011
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 5: Know, they track everything nowadays, so like his snap to

1012
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:16,759
Speaker 5: get off was one of the fastest in the league,

1013
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 5: So like that's one of his strengths was just get off.

1014
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 1: Anyways, I think come.

1015
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 5: Playoff time next year, von Miller can be a difference

1016
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,280
Speaker 5: maker to get to the quarterback. And that's what the Bills,

1017
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 5: That's what ultimately got him against the Chiefs. Patrick Mahomes

1018
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,759
Speaker 5: could just run around back there and it just ended

1019
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 5: up being a shootout in the Bills defenses wore out

1020
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 5: and both defenses wore wore out. You got twenty five

1021
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 5: points scored in a minute and fifty seven seconds, but

1022
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 5: both defenses were completely wore out. So whoever was going

1023
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,839
Speaker 5: to be whoever had the ball in overtime was gonna win.

1024
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 5: Both those defensive wore out. You get a pass rusher

1025
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 5: like von Miller that can change some things in the playoffs.

1026
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 5: It was interesting. You sign a thirty three year old

1027
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 5: to a six year contract, Brandon being the wizard. I'm

1028
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,479
Speaker 5: sure you know there's something there where it's like, Okay,

1029
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 5: if he retires, then all the rest of the cap

1030
00:39:58,280 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 5: hits off the books.

1031
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: You know how it's structured.

1032
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 4: I'm sure because because if he's thirty nine at the

1033
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,800
Speaker 4: end of that contract, right, it had to be either.

1034
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 4: It seemed like it was a team from the deal too, though,

1035
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 4: like looking at the numbers and where everything was signing

1036
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,439
Speaker 4: bonus and all that against the cap.

1037
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 1: Like you said, Buddy's a wizard. Yeah, so he was

1038
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,000
Speaker 1: out there killing it. I know. I love Brandon Bean,

1039
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:19,879
Speaker 1: So is that what you think?

1040
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 4: You think if the Bills got the ball first and

1041
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 4: that overtime, Bills win that game.

1042
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 1: Over, game over, both chances.

1043
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 5: Both defenses were so gassed, like they could hardly move.

1044
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean both Josh Allen and Mahomes were just

1045
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 2: going back and forth.

1046
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:35,959
Speaker 1: Though, you know, is there too much time on the clock?

1047
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 1: Oh and that was there too much on the clock?

1048
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:37,879
Speaker 1: Just back.

1049
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, But the way Mahomes came and tie the game

1050
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 4: up at the end, incredible.

1051
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1052
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 4: But the way Josh, oh no, it was all it

1053
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 4: was all fucking insane and who had the ball less

1054
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 4: in regulation?

1055
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:52,880
Speaker 5: So the Bills scored with thirteen seconds left, that's right,

1056
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 5: and they're up three and Tony Romo and they kicked

1057
00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 5: it in the end zone allowed a touch back, which

1058
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 5: don't do the games coach has been fired. You know,

1059
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 5: not to speculate, but there apparently there was a miscommunication

1060
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 5: somewhere along the line. The kick as still on the

1061
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 5: team the special teams coach, isn't they kick it in

1062
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 5: the end zone so you don't waste any time there,

1063
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 5: And then they played off defense and let them just

1064
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:16,280
Speaker 5: get up the field.

1065
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: And then man, it even.

1066
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 5: Hurts like to watch just because I love Sean McDermot

1067
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:22,680
Speaker 5: and Brandon Bean so much.

1068
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 1: Like they gave Sean McDermot was there my last year.

1069
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 5: I was the first player being extended or gave a

1070
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 5: contract to in Buffalo as me, and so like.

1071
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 4: I actually like those dudes. I know you like to,

1072
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,439
Speaker 4: but so I know how much it means to them.

1073
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 5: But to like watch the micd up situation where Travis

1074
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 5: Kelsey was like, Hey, I'm actually not gonna do it.

1075
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 5: Andy Reid just called like like look at their defense.

1076
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:44,800
Speaker 5: I'm just gonna run up the seam. Just throw it

1077
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 5: to me.

1078
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 4: I'll get down and we get a field goal to

1079
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 4: tie it. So Jesus wild. Yeah, that had to hurt.

1080
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 4: It was one of the best games to watch it. Yeah,

1081
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 4: I was calling the game, and you know, I thought

1082
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 4: the Bills were out of it, and then they.

1083
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 5: Just go back and forth. In the fourth quarter, they

1084
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 5: get back in and take the lead. But you know,

1085
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 5: the city of Buffalo is just starving for a championship.

1086
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 5: And after the way Josh Allen played against the Patriots,

1087
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 5: they smoke him forty five to seven places.

1088
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 1: That was a wild dude, Josh Allen.

1089
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:13,799
Speaker 5: And he's been to three playoff appearances, not like it's

1090
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 5: just won. In three playoff appearances, he has a fourteen

1091
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 5: to one touchdown interception ratio, which is like, by far

1092
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 5: the best in NFL history. Obviously, he's a students, a gamer,

1093
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 5: sounds one of my favorite people in the world, and

1094
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 5: he won me over for life. So this is two

1095
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 5: years ago, my son's birthdays in January, and so I

1096
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 5: texted Josh, like I didn't even overlap with Josh once,

1097
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 5: but we worked with the same hospital up there, our

1098
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 5: foundations all that and we've become buddies. But like, I'm

1099
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 5: the radio guy up there, like that's what he knows me.

1100
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 5: I was like, I'm the color guy in the radio,

1101
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 5: and so I texted him. I said it it's like

1102
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 5: a Monday during the playoff week. I said, Hey, for

1103
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 5: some reason, my son, he's three, he's obsessed with you.

1104
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 5: He thinks you're coming to his birthday party. If you

1105
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 5: could just shoot me a quick video, I'd appreciate it.

1106
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 5: If you ignore this text, I'll never think anything different

1107
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 5: of you. Good luck in the game this week, No

1108
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,759
Speaker 5: worries either way. Sends me a video and then he goes, wait, wait,

1109
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,760
Speaker 5: I can do better, sends another one that's like longer

1110
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 5: and better, and I'm like, that kid gets it, you

1111
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 5: know what I mean, Like to do something little like

1112
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,839
Speaker 5: that for someone who could talks about him every week,

1113
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,240
Speaker 5: controls a lot of media and opinion through my social

1114
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 5: media in Buffalo, and like that was he gets it.

1115
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 5: And he was twenty three years old at the time.

1116
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 5: Twenty four years old. Yeah, that's a great kid.

1117
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,520
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Speaker 1: going from player to media?

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Speaker 2: Guy? Like is that something in the maybe in the

1138
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 2: beginning more so than now, Like it was always in

1139
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 2: the back of your mind, Like I have to have

1140
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 2: this kind of take because in the media game, like

1141
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 2: you've got to build credibility. To get credibility, you got

1142
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 2: to have like actual honesty, like you got to be objective,

1143
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 2: like you got to remove the emotion of these are

1144
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,359
Speaker 2: my boys, but you know, you gotta do your thing.

1145
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, Now, it's good that there was a ton of turnover,

1146
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 5: Like I was out a season full season and then

1147
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,919
Speaker 5: came back eighty percent of the roster it changed, so

1148
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 5: that that helped. But like, they don't pay me enough

1149
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,399
Speaker 5: to be hypercritical of those guys that make hard takes

1150
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 5: on them all the time. Like I'm never going to

1151
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 5: trash the guys. But it was weird because yeah, yeah,

1152
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,240
Speaker 5: your body's got a price. Everybody's got a price.

1153
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 1: To Romo money. I'll talk wrap on anybody. Yeah, I respect,

1154
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 1: I respect that hustle.

1155
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 5: But I'm like, dude, I'm I'm up here having fun.

1156
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 5: Like we're the Bills Radio broadcast, so like I'm I'm

1157
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 5: gonna be pretty you know, I'm a Bill's homer.

1158
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 1: On this broadcasts.

1159
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:22,399
Speaker 5: When I was with ESPN for those couple of years,

1160
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 5: I'm calling college games like I'm not going to tear

1161
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,560
Speaker 5: down these college kids. Now, I'll say if something was

1162
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 5: dumb or man, he should have made that catch er,

1163
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 5: that's a bad throw. But I'm not going to like

1164
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 5: attack a kid like, oh this kid, you know, he's lazy.

1165
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,000
Speaker 5: Watch this like I would if I was watching film.

1166
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:38,720
Speaker 5: We're in sitting in the old line room watching film.

1167
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 5: Totally different than when you're calling a.

1168
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 4: Game, like you're not on everybody, Yes, exactly, like, oh,

1169
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 4: this dude's terrible, especially the old line too. That's crazy

1170
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 4: that because when you watch the d line, you're kind

1171
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 4: of respecting them watching when they do. Yeah, you watch

1172
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 4: other offensive line and you're like, what the fuck is

1173
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 4: this guy doing?

1174
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 1: Man? Right, why is he so lazy? Why is he

1175
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 1: so this? Yeah, But like I feel like.

1176
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 2: That's ever a position like for real, Well, you'll watch guys,

1177
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 2: you watch backers, and your coach will be getting off

1178
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 2: to some by and here's me thinking like, yeah, they're

1179
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 2: doing nothing like you.

1180
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: You custed your ass off when.

1181
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 2: I was doing something similar to this the other day.

1182
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 2: But all of a sudden, he's doing it. All of

1183
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 2: a Sudden's the greatest thing in the world, right, will

1184
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 2: probably who probably hate on like Quentin Nelson, like oh

1185
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 2: he gets this, he gets that, he gets away with this,

1186
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 2: but it's just like you know.

1187
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 5: Right, But on the transition to the media, it got

1188
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 5: me Like the first time I went to like one

1189
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 5: of like the old line dinners the night before the game,

1190
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 5: or we were on the road and they invited me

1191
00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 5: out to eat with them and then they started talking

1192
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 5: and they like pulled back because they thought I might

1193
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 5: like tweet it, or I'm like whoaa, whoaah, like nothing

1194
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 5: we ever say, Like I will never compromise a conversation

1195
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,320
Speaker 5: ever with a player coach, like even like showing that

1196
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 5: picture of Fitzpatrick, like fitz doesn't care, Like that's not

1197
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 5: like bad by any means or whatever, but like even there,

1198
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 5: I'm like like I don't ever want to like put

1199
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 5: people's business out in the streets. And like you know,

1200
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:50,640
Speaker 5: I'll have coaches text me stuff before the game or

1201
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 5: I'll talk to him on the field, like unless it's

1202
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 5: like a positive thing about a player, that's like building

1203
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 5: someone up throughout the broadcast, like I'll never ever ever

1204
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 5: mention it because once you once you blow that trust,

1205
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 5: once it's over and then you're sitting at a meal

1206
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:05,759
Speaker 5: and everyone's like kind of clamming up because oh he

1207
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:07,839
Speaker 5: would's here and you know he's he's on the call

1208
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:12,319
Speaker 5: tomorrow media and like cause pre covid, I would go

1209
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 5: to all their meals. Like mcdermot's like, dude, if you

1210
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 5: want to work out in our weight room, you like

1211
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 5: you oh yeah, He's like, man, you just make yourself

1212
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 5: at home. I mean my wife and his wife were

1213
00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 5: going to games together my last year, like traveling together,

1214
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 5: and then boom career ends and so we're all still

1215
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 5: kind of buddies and all that. But like it was like,

1216
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:31,879
Speaker 5: make yourself at home. So I'm like in the meal room,

1217
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 5: people are like do I sit by him? You know

1218
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 5: it's like you know he's gonna go down and do

1219
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 5: one Bill's Live after this, you know our TV show

1220
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 5: that we do, Like is he gonna say something if

1221
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 5: I I'm like never, Like, let's just get that crystal clear,

1222
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:46,720
Speaker 5: Like none of that's ever gonna happen.

1223
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 1: That's awesome, that's good. That's a good characteristic to have.

1224
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, but but it's like you blow the trust once

1225
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 5: and then like honestly, it's like like as a former player,

1226
00:47:56,920 --> 00:47:58,879
Speaker 5: like you never want that to like like you would

1227
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 5: never I would never want to turn years worth of

1228
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 5: a reputation off of like picking up a few Twitter

1229
00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 5: followers or something.

1230
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, some guys get off on that though. I

1231
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,399
Speaker 4: know some like just going off the media we have here.

1232
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 4: There's a lot of great people in our media, especially

1233
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 4: at local media, but there's a couple of guys that

1234
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,320
Speaker 4: just are dying to soil somebody.

1235
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 1: I know. I just love the chaos, each.

1236
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 2: A little bit of like an angle, and then you

1237
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:23,960
Speaker 2: can make it into something, making it something huge.

1238
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I'm saying.

1239
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I Uh, let's get into your career a little bit,

1240
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 2: because you've had, like you had quite the career. You

1241
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 2: played nine years at one spot, which is rare. It's

1242
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 2: like we were talking about yesterday with Mike when he

1243
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 2: was on the podcast, like Taylor has been with one

1244
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 2: team his entire career, Like that's a rare thing to have.

1245
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 1: And you had just re signed an extension what was

1246
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 1: it five years.

1247
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 5: Signed a two year extension, so that would have put

1248
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:47,280
Speaker 5: me through year eleven.

1249
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 2: Got you, and so I was way off, good, way off,

1250
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 2: So completely way off. But uh, you had an incredible

1251
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 2: career man, a pro boy, and you were stud Like

1252
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 2: I remember you, you did talk like you were scrappy,

1253
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 2: that you and incognito. Incognito this day between him and Roger,

1254
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 2: the heaviest hands.

1255
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 1: I've ever felt heavy hands.

1256
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 2: But you suddenly had to end your career because of

1257
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:13,800
Speaker 2: a neck injury. Like tell us about that story.

1258
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:17,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, So twenty seventeen, we break the longest playoff drought

1259
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 5: in all professional sports.

1260
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 1: Everyone thought we.

1261
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 5: Were tanking going into that season, and everyone thought I

1262
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 5: was a dumbass, but I signed the contract extension when

1263
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 5: everyone thinks we're tanking. But like we're sitting there, we

1264
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 5: got shady Kyle Williams, Tyrod Taylor's good quarterback, Richie's there.

1265
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 5: I'm like, man, we got some pieces like said, like

1266
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 5: this isn't a true tank, Like yes, we traded Sammy

1267
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:39,479
Speaker 5: and Marcel and Ronald Darby, but like those dudes didn't

1268
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 5: fit McDermott's personality and they never were going to like

1269
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 5: those dudes's watkins. Yeah, yeah, like they're just not gonna

1270
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 5: see eye on. So anyways, sign a contract extension. Play

1271
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 5: every single snap that season, including the playoff game. One

1272
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 5: of the only players in the NFL to play every

1273
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 5: single snap that year. Because your shoe can fall off,

1274
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:57,560
Speaker 5: you get heard you're beating a team too.

1275
00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:57,759
Speaker 1: Bad.

1276
00:49:57,800 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 5: You're losing too bad, Like you get taken out for

1277
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 5: so many diferent reasons. In the NFL, I played every

1278
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 5: single snap that year. I'm an alternate for the Pro Bowl?

1279
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 3: Was it that?

1280
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 1: After an injury too? So? Oh?

1281
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 5: I had a ton of injuries, bro curious and my

1282
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 5: rookie year, I did the Joe thaismand leg break.

1283
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:17,240
Speaker 1: You're three. I did a CM compound fracture. Yeah, holy ship.

1284
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 5: Right from the field to an ambulance to surgery four days.

1285
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 4: Later, fly back to Buffalo and we and that was like,

1286
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 4: let's put a pin in that and just how that happen. Yeah,

1287
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 4: So I'm blocking for Ryan Fitzpatrick, former teammate of mine.

1288
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:30,880
Speaker 5: You can find it on YouTube if you want to

1289
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:34,240
Speaker 5: pull it up, might as well. But uh, former teammate

1290
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 5: of mine at Louisville Montaviou. Stand at least playing de

1291
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 5: tackle for the Jaguars, And I just got a dude

1292
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 5: locked up and just standing there with him. Dies for

1293
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 5: fitz fitz makes a miss, goes through the side of

1294
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 5: my leg. I had never been hurt in my life.

1295
00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:46,919
Speaker 5: And we were earlier in that game. A guy left

1296
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,279
Speaker 5: the field, came back in. We were making fun of him,

1297
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 5: and so I was like, all right, I gotta get

1298
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 5: up because I don't want everyone to make fun of

1299
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 5: me if I come back in.

1300
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: Everyone's like, you didn't know that it was fucking out? No,

1301
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: it was. It was this so the bone was out

1302
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 1: of the skin, so.

1303
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 5: It was a community which actually were so it was

1304
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 5: it breaks in half, the skin stays out there, and

1305
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 5: that actually made me have to stay in Jacksonville longer

1306
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:13,879
Speaker 5: because it creates this like huge bubble on your leg.

1307
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: But anyways, so here you go. Oh bro, I don't

1308
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 1: know if I really want to see this. Oh fuck yeah.

1309
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 1: So that was a good one. Think too. By the way,

1310
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 1: you're in phenomenal shape now, yeah, I appreciate it. That

1311
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 1: was about three hundred and sixteen pounds there. I was heavy.

1312
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 1: All right, that's good, yeah, snapper dude. So anyways, so

1313
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 1: do that go straight to the hospital.

1314
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 4: Wait, you're chilling holding How did you react to that?

1315
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 4: You were like, oh, I should get up.

1316
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:46,560
Speaker 5: I was trying to push myself off the ground and

1317
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 5: then realized that it was pretty bad.

1318
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 1: And now how did you react to that?

1319
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 4: Were you freaking out when really hurting?

1320
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 1: Ended up really hurting? And then uh, it ended up

1321
00:51:58,000 --> 00:51:58,959
Speaker 1: really hurting. Yeah.

1322
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, watch the YouTube video of it with the surgeons

1323
00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:03,120
Speaker 5: before I went into surgery.

1324
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:04,839
Speaker 1: Wake up in the middle of the night, have no

1325
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 1: idea where I'm in.

1326
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 5: Where I'm at in a pitch black hospital room, and

1327
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 5: I'm like, I'm sweating my ass off, and I'm like

1328
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 5: the drugs.

1329
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: I just started yelling.

1330
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 5: I'm like, I literally have no idea where I am

1331
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:18,879
Speaker 5: right and like I don't see like a call button

1332
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:19,320
Speaker 5: or anything.

1333
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:21,320
Speaker 1: So I just started yelling. Nurses come in, flip on

1334
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:21,680
Speaker 1: the lights.

1335
00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh, look down, I'm in the same compression

1336
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,480
Speaker 5: chores I played the game in and Jacksonville. I was

1337
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 5: like like, all right, this is disgusting. I was like,

1338
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 5: all right, need the ac down, need some new underwear,

1339
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 5: probably a bath where am I like like just start

1340
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 5: my rud we know, like where's my phone?

1341
00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: Like what the hell is going on right now?

1342
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 5: Is the middle of the night and uh so, anyways,

1343
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 5: I was down there for four days and ended up

1344
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:45,720
Speaker 5: making back started the first game of the season the next.

1345
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:48,840
Speaker 4: Year because that was in Weeke ten, Like you fucking yeah,

1346
00:52:49,360 --> 00:52:51,279
Speaker 4: what is a what is like a regular recovery for that?

1347
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 1: Like it all kind of depends.

1348
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 5: So like with bones, once they healed, you're pretty confident

1349
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 5: about it. Like when I did my ACL, like I

1350
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 5: didn't feel like real confident that sucker for about eighteen months. Yeah,

1351
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 5: you know, Like I'm like, man, it just kind of

1352
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 5: feels weak, like not as flexible, not as strong, like

1353
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:08,160
Speaker 5: is this thing good?

1354
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 1: You know?

1355
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,160
Speaker 5: And like acls are so obscure. It's like this little

1356
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 5: bitty deal I can just wreck your life. So you're like,

1357
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 5: is it good?

1358
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 4: Like once that once they boy blost back there just

1359
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 4: towards ACL two days ago.

1360
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 1: That recovery sucks.

1361
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 4: But I'm sorry, but I'm my heart's going out to

1362
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:22,839
Speaker 4: the boy the whole time.

1363
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:24,879
Speaker 5: But like they put a rotten screws in my leg,

1364
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 5: like that sucker was good.

1365
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 1: Now it didn't hurt, It didn't hurt that bad.

1366
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 5: Now you're not weight bearing for twelve weeks, so you're

1367
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:36,040
Speaker 5: completely atrophied. I went from three six I went from

1368
00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 5: three sixteen to two seventy eight quick?

1369
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 1: Just how fast? How fast is that? Three weeks?

1370
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 4: Okay, hey, I lost like thirty forty pounds, not forty

1371
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:47,200
Speaker 4: thirty pounds in MYICL.

1372
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:48,359
Speaker 1: That's a good three week.

1373
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 5: That's a great sign for post career, but it sucks

1374
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 5: when you're in the moment because then you had to

1375
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 5: get all that and some of it's you know, waterway

1376
00:53:54,640 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 5: and all that, and you get that muscle back quick.

1377
00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 5: But yeah, thirty seven pounds or something, and then they

1378
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 5: put me back in the hospital for dehydration all that. No, Yeah,

1379
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,160
Speaker 5: that was that was That was a tough one. And

1380
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 5: then I got hurt in week ten or eleven, four

1381
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 5: straight years to start my career, did the did the

1382
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 5: Joe thisman? Second year high ankle spring, third year ACL,

1383
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,280
Speaker 5: fourth year mcl all in week ten or eleven.

1384
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:19,319
Speaker 4: Hey, at one point you I'd be like, hey, I'm

1385
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:21,799
Speaker 4: not playing those going into like contract years.

1386
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 5: Well yeah, yeah, so and then I'm heading So at

1387
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 5: that time, all first rounders had to sign a five

1388
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 5: year deal, So the Bills extended me before the next season.

1389
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 5: But it was a really heavy playing time incentive because

1390
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 5: I was like, look, I want to make top three

1391
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 5: center money. I'm resigning before mac he was another first

1392
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 5: round of that year, like he's gonna jump me as

1393
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:40,240
Speaker 5: soon as I sign.

1394
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 1: So like, I don't want to sign like some.

1395
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 5: Team super like low deal that has you know, no

1396
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 5: risk to it like, I'll bet on myself.

1397
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:48,720
Speaker 1: That's fine. I'd deserve the money if I'm not playing anyways.

1398
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 5: And then I go on to start fifty two straight

1399
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 5: games and earn it all, which was great. And then

1400
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 5: in twenty sixteen, break my other leg a Monday night

1401
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 5: football in Seattle on the goal line going left, smart too,

1402
00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:03,319
Speaker 5: the defensive line slanted this way. I'm trying to get

1403
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 5: through to the second level and bear defense, and the

1404
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 5: whole whole line collapses down on me. So break your

1405
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,439
Speaker 5: other leg, break my other leg, mon night football heading

1406
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:12,319
Speaker 5: into the bye week too.

1407
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 1: So you got all these players, I don't need to

1408
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 1: see it. And then you fly back and then you

1409
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:20,839
Speaker 1: last video fucked me up, and then you.

1410
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 4: Fly back from Seattle six hours to Buffalo through the night.

1411
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:28,319
Speaker 5: Luckily at that time they made something legal out there

1412
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 5: that a bunch of the guys on the team were

1413
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:30,839
Speaker 5: like kind of hooked me up. On the way home

1414
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 5: and Rex Ryan walked up to me, he goes, how

1415
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 5: you feeling, E. I was like a lot better than

1416
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 5: I should right now, Yeah, like a lot better than

1417
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 5: I should. He's like, all right, take me out.

1418
00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm all good, but uh, Heroin's different.

1419
00:55:41,640 --> 00:55:45,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, what you're saying exactly, Yeah, yeah, the hard stuff

1420
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:48,279
Speaker 5: and so break my leg. So all that being said,

1421
00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:50,879
Speaker 5: battle through injuries my whole career that year, play every

1422
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 5: single snap, feel great, Like, got some stingers throughout the year,

1423
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 5: but like our high school buddy's got stingers, Like everyone

1424
00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 5: gets stingers in the NFL, Like, yeah, who cares hurt

1425
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 5: though it does. And when you play enter in your

1426
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:03,040
Speaker 5: right hands and them like, that's a different feeling heading

1427
00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 5: into a play and you're like, can't really feel the ball,

1428
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 5: but I'll get it back there.

1429
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 1: It's all good. Yeah. But uh so I got.

1430
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:09,480
Speaker 5: These singers where they're like, let's get new around your neck,

1431
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:11,280
Speaker 5: just make sure everything's good. And I was like, okay,

1432
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:14,280
Speaker 5: well I have to get home right now. My son's

1433
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:17,520
Speaker 5: about to be born. So getting a Mari drive back

1434
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 5: to Louisville. Two days later, sitting in the delivery room.

1435
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:22,919
Speaker 5: My son's born. Fifty minutes after I get the phone

1436
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 5: call that my career's over even with surgery. You know,

1437
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 5: we've consulted with everybody. No one will ever pass you

1438
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:31,319
Speaker 5: for a physical again, no team in the league will,

1439
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 5: And just freaking rocked my world. So I think we're

1440
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 5: trying to figure out travel plans to the Pro Bowl

1441
00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 5: because there was two AFC centers, both in the playoffs

1442
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:43,799
Speaker 5: still that were Pro Bowlers, so like there was like

1443
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 5: a ninety percent chance I was going to pop in there,

1444
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 5: and they might not even want to play anyways, So

1445
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 5: we're trying to figure out how we're gonna get a

1446
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 5: two week old to the Pro Bowl.

1447
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:55,400
Speaker 1: And it's said, my career is over, and like, and

1448
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 1: you just got that MRI just because you have you

1449
00:56:57,800 --> 00:56:58,879
Speaker 1: had stinger hits. Yeah.

1450
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 5: I was the only player on the team that late

1451
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 5: every single snap that year. Yeah, so like so I

1452
00:57:02,600 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 5: know it and no one else does. And it was

1453
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 5: well like our family knew, but like me and my

1454
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:10,320
Speaker 5: wife knew, but like no one else. And my wife's

1455
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 5: crying in the hospital bed after I told her, and

1456
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 5: not like mad, just like sad and emotional and I

1457
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 5: have a baby, you know, you guys know the emotions

1458
00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 5: of that.

1459
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, the nurse imagine telling my wife. She's in the

1460
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 1: middle of trying to.

1461
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 4: Like, well, we knew went through and you're like, hey,

1462
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 4: but I'm also we got to find a new job

1463
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:26,400
Speaker 4: because it wears over.

1464
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1465
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:28,840
Speaker 5: They were like, hey, we're gonna call we have some

1466
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 5: serious news. So we knew something, so like she was

1467
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 5: like telling me, I want to know. So the nurse

1468
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 5: comes in and was like, baby, it's not going to

1469
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:35,960
Speaker 5: hurt that bad.

1470
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 1: I promise. My wife's like, it's not about the baby,

1471
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 1: like we exactly.

1472
00:57:41,720 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 5: So anyway, so that that was like a pretty wild

1473
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 5: four or five months because the Bills wouldn't cut me

1474
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 5: because as soon as they cut me, my full cap

1475
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 5: hit was gonna come in. Like I was the second

1476
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:55,480
Speaker 5: highest paid center in the league my first year out

1477
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 5: of the league because I just had signed that extension

1478
00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 5: and so as soon as they cut me, all that

1479
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 5: hits and then they can't go sign free agents. Right, well,

1480
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 5: if i go get a job or anything, then I'm retired.

1481
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 5: If I'm retired, I don't get all that injury guarantee.

1482
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 5: And so literally I'm just like living in obscurity. I'm

1483
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 5: losing weight, but I'm like not trying to see anybody

1484
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 5: or tell anybody, Like I'm not on social media much

1485
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 5: because I'm just trying to be like, hey, as soon

1486
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 5: as they cut me, I'll come back and I'll try

1487
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 5: and get a broadcast gig. That's part of the reason

1488
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 5: I didn't have a media gig my first year out

1489
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 5: was because I couldn't even take a job. Really, it

1490
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:31,120
Speaker 5: didn't cut me till June, June first, I guess May

1491
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 5: thirty first, June first, and so I'm just sitting there

1492
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:36,720
Speaker 5: in limbo. Like I showed up at Jim Kelly's golf tournament,

1493
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 5: which was in May. That was the first time, like

1494
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 5: anybody had seen me in five months, and I'm like

1495
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 5: fifty five pounds down. Everyone's like, oh, you're done.

1496
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 1: Done.

1497
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:48,439
Speaker 5: I'm like, yeah, I was never athletic enough to play

1498
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:49,880
Speaker 5: tight end. I couldn't even start in my high school

1499
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 5: at tight end. So yeah, I'm really done.

1500
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 4: Oh my god, that's crazy. Ye know, that is fucking emostly, like,

1501
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:57,680
Speaker 4: what was that process like for you, dealing with that.

1502
00:58:57,560 --> 00:59:00,760
Speaker 2: You're a pro bowler, like everyone's speculating and you're about

1503
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 2: to go like you're about to go to another one.

1504
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 1: Yeah. Everyone. I loved ball.

1505
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 5: Like that's another thing too, Like there's a lot of

1506
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 5: dudes in the league that don't love ball like I

1507
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 5: loved it, Like I loved watching film, I loved going

1508
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 5: to the stadium, I love I loved practice like I

1509
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:16,440
Speaker 5: loved it all and so for me, like it was

1510
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:19,439
Speaker 5: a big hit, and you know, honestly and at that time,

1511
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 5: like I had, you know, luckily, I have a great

1512
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 5: family and buddies in this foundation, my faith, and like

1513
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:27,280
Speaker 5: so early on you're like, yeah, God, I know you

1514
00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 5: have great plans for me, Like I can't wait to

1515
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:30,959
Speaker 5: see what you do next. And then like four months

1516
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,480
Speaker 5: in and you're just kind of like hanging out, losing weight.

1517
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 5: You know, you're like, Okay, this kind of sucks now.

1518
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:37,960
Speaker 5: And then when I saw pictures of them back at

1519
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 5: OTAs because I used to love OTA's, like I love

1520
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:43,240
Speaker 5: to play golf. We'd go up there and you know,

1521
00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 5: you work out till noon and then it's like hang

1522
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 5: out with the boys all afternoon, fly home Thursdays, see

1523
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 5: the family again.

1524
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 1: Like OTA's was a ton of fun.

1525
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I see them all those Bota's, I was like, oh,

1526
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 4: it's real, Like yeah, well.

1527
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:56,920
Speaker 5: I'm not heading back there anymore. So it sucked it,

1528
00:59:57,000 --> 01:00:00,080
Speaker 5: truly did. I went through the first game that the Bills,

1529
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 5: like the first game that I wasn't in, you know,

1530
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 5: in a decade, and they played APT Baltimore and they

1531
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 5: lost like forty seven to three, it's pouring down rain.

1532
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 5: We're up in the club just crushing beers, me and

1533
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 5: a few of my boys, and like everyone's like, is this,

1534
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 5: like do you feel better now? Is like, honestly no,

1535
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 5: because I'd rather just be in that locker room piste

1536
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:18,919
Speaker 5: off right now than sitting here drinking beers with you guys,

1537
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, Like, yes, these games suck,

1538
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 5: but like, like I don't ever get to like even

1539
01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:25,880
Speaker 5: just feel that in the locker room again. And that's

1540
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 5: that's part of the thing about media too, Like when

1541
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 5: you're calling a game, especially calling college games. It's part

1542
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:32,360
Speaker 5: of the reason I moved on from calling those college games,

1543
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 5: like you don't care who wins, and like you have

1544
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 5: no emotion tied to it at all. And I was

1545
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 5: calling mainly ACC games. Not a lot of good ball

1546
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 5: in the ACC going right now, so you don't even

1547
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 5: get that like the great You don't get like the

1548
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:45,440
Speaker 5: great atmosphere either. And I was like, man, this is

1549
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 5: like just not quite doing it for me right now.

1550
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 5: Like I'd rather be in either one of those locker rooms,

1551
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 5: you know, win or lose. I'd rather be in either

1552
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 5: one of those locker rooms than stay on this field

1553
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 5: or in this booth calling this game right now.

1554
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,000
Speaker 1: But I also don't want to do the coaching hours.

1555
01:00:58,000 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 5: As you guys know, it's hard to be a dad

1556
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:02,480
Speaker 5: and a husband and this gotta be a little different now,

1557
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:03,360
Speaker 5: no doubt about it.

1558
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, what was? So?

1559
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 4: What was would it end up being like what the

1560
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 4: doctors told you happened to your neck? What would made

1561
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 4: it like career ending?

1562
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1563
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 5: So I had disc and bones sitting into my spinal

1564
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 5: cord and it was at C two C three, So

1565
01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 5: like if it was lower at four or five like

1566
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:19,160
Speaker 5: Peyton Manning had next surgery and came back and played

1567
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:21,640
Speaker 5: his was lower, it's more stable at C two C three.

1568
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:24,200
Speaker 5: Any surgery up there, they'll just end your career because

1569
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 5: it's so unstable and you lose everything below in the

1570
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:31,760
Speaker 5: spinal cord whatever, like you injure, it damages everything down.

1571
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 5: So that's paraplegia, loss of respiratory function, and so it's

1572
01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 5: a real shit. Yeah, Like that's not like lose feeling

1573
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:41,880
Speaker 5: in your legs, you know, which would be awful. But yeah,

1574
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:44,280
Speaker 5: but they were like that was the Ryan Shazier had

1575
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:45,680
Speaker 5: his deal where he was face down on the turf

1576
01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 5: and They're like, we have no idea. One of those

1577
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 5: hits him put you face down the turf. But you're

1578
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:50,640
Speaker 5: just lucky.

1579
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 1: You're lucky, saying because they just saw from an MRI.

1580
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 2: It's like kind of like, oh, thank god we got

1581
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 2: an MRI because you would have continued playing it.

1582
01:01:57,760 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 1: You weren't feeling anything wrong with you, right, I know it.

1583
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:02,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, everyone's like, man, you should feel so fortunate that

1584
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:04,479
Speaker 5: you got out when you did. And look, I would

1585
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:06,439
Speaker 5: have played to the wheels fell off and I get

1586
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 5: to play golf. I can still work out, I play

1587
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:10,439
Speaker 5: with my kids like I love balls.

1588
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:11,720
Speaker 1: I would have played to the wheels.

1589
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 5: Fell off, just ignorant, and every year would have been, hey,

1590
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 5: we got to go win the super Bowl.

1591
01:02:15,600 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 1: Then we win to super Bowl. He was like, let's

1592
01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 1: go win another one. That was awesome.

1593
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:21,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, So I would have just kept playing. So I

1594
01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:24,480
Speaker 5: believe God got me out when he wanted to. And honestly,

1595
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 5: that first four or five months sucked. It did, but

1596
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 5: I swear each year's gotten better than the last. I

1597
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 5: got a podcast, What's Next with Eric Wood. I have

1598
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:33,000
Speaker 5: a ton of fun doing that, get to do stuff

1599
01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:35,440
Speaker 5: like this. We travel a bunch, work hard, in the

1600
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 5: falls calling games and whatnot, and then tone it back

1601
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:39,600
Speaker 5: and travel litle bit in the off season. Get to

1602
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 5: take my kids to school, pick them up when I

1603
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:43,240
Speaker 5: want to, and I'm not golfing or that's all on

1604
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 5: some stuff.

1605
01:02:43,720 --> 01:02:46,320
Speaker 1: Got some investments going. So it's been a ton of fun.

1606
01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 5: But man, that that transition's real, and for guys to

1607
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 5: transition out in the NFL to have other guys that

1608
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:55,200
Speaker 5: can talk to, like, you know, we got buddies that

1609
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:57,720
Speaker 5: are going, you know, through transitions all the time from

1610
01:02:57,760 --> 01:02:58,200
Speaker 5: the league.

1611
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:00,400
Speaker 1: Like it sucks, but no one.

1612
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 5: But the thing about it is you can't talk to

1613
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 5: your buddies about it because they're like, look, you have

1614
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:05,960
Speaker 5: more money than you know what to do with, right,

1615
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 5: and you get to stay home now, Like what's wrong

1616
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 5: with that?

1617
01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 4: Like like some of your buddies are still like they

1618
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:14,960
Speaker 4: don't want to hear most of every buddy, You're right,

1619
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 4: they don't care to hear it.

1620
01:03:15,640 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 1: They don't want to hear it.

1621
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, like they don't Like your wife doesn't have anyone

1622
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 5: to talk to because you know, my wife leslie like

1623
01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:23,439
Speaker 5: her girlfriends like they don't want to hear her talk

1624
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 5: about like well, you know, and Eric's at home helping

1625
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:27,360
Speaker 5: out all the time now, and you.

1626
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 1: Know, I think we're gonna go travel again. Yeah, yeah,

1627
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 1: golfing and just can't. But it's interesting again, yeah, you.

1628
01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:36,520
Speaker 5: Like they don't want to hear that, like, but like

1629
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 5: it's hard on the wife too. Like we had a

1630
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:40,160
Speaker 5: house in Buffalo, we had family, and you know, we

1631
01:03:40,200 --> 01:03:42,280
Speaker 5: had friends that felt like family up there.

1632
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you're in it, when you got the camaraderie

1633
01:03:44,560 --> 01:03:46,240
Speaker 1: with the boys, and like you said, it was nothing better.

1634
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:49,440
Speaker 2: I remember like in Washington, did you know Corey lichtenstagger

1635
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:52,680
Speaker 2: at all? I m But we just had a group

1636
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:55,000
Speaker 2: of guys where we're it's the same thing. We're golfing

1637
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 2: after practice every day, like when you're in it, because

1638
01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 2: again you were there nine years. Like right, it's gotta

1639
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 2: just it's gotta suck. And I was talking one time

1640
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 2: with my buddy a mereb Doula. He's had a podcast

1641
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 2: on here, but uh yeah, monster wrench.

1642
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 5: But he's the president, the biggest of whoever had the

1643
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 5: biggest he's the no.

1644
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:18,200
Speaker 2: But that's not gonna happen when somebody asks. He's saw

1645
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:19,920
Speaker 2: always something one that I'll never get out of my

1646
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 2: head out of his mouth.

1647
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:22,440
Speaker 1: That's crazy.

1648
01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 2: But one time we were talking and it's kind of

1649
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:29,080
Speaker 2: like we get to be on this roller coaster right

1650
01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:31,920
Speaker 2: with football, Like we live in such a we're so

1651
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:35,959
Speaker 2: fortunate that we got to legitimately live our dream as

1652
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:38,760
Speaker 2: a kid, Like you're playing mad and you're creating yourself

1653
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:42,120
Speaker 2: and you just daydream about playing football, like we're pretending

1654
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:44,240
Speaker 2: to be guys in the backyard when you're playing catch

1655
01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:46,360
Speaker 2: with your dad and stuff, and you're just like you're

1656
01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:48,240
Speaker 2: obsessed with this dream of playing in the NFL. And

1657
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 2: we get to do that, like the one percent one percent,

1658
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 2: Like we are so lucky we get to do that

1659
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:55,320
Speaker 2: at the same time we're riding.

1660
01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 1: This roller coaster.

1661
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:58,440
Speaker 2: You go to college, you're on scholarship, like you have

1662
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 2: structure around. You go to the NFL, you lose a

1663
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 2: little bit of structure, but you're making money and you're

1664
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 2: just you're living a high. And then when you're when

1665
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:08,680
Speaker 2: you're done playing football, and I would assume it was

1666
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 2: this way for you, but you get the rug pullout

1667
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:13,480
Speaker 2: from under you without even thinking twice, like having the

1668
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 2: option right, and it's like, I feel like what football

1669
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:18,600
Speaker 2: players go through are athletes, are people? That get to

1670
01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 2: ride a high like that, because that's what it is,

1671
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 2: like we live in a fantasy world again.

1672
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:25,160
Speaker 1: It's like, what's the next roller coaster? I'm trying to

1673
01:05:25,160 --> 01:05:25,440
Speaker 1: get on?

1674
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 2: And you go and call games right, and there's not

1675
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:29,360
Speaker 2: a lot of people in the stadium, Like it's just

1676
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 2: not getting your rock, Like it's not You're like, this

1677
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:33,040
Speaker 2: is not what I want to be doing this, This

1678
01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 2: isn't doing it for me. I feel like we struggle

1679
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:38,280
Speaker 2: trying to figure out, like what that next? I guess

1680
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 2: highest so to speaker, like what's going to feel like

1681
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:41,240
Speaker 2: I have purpose doing this?

1682
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:41,720
Speaker 1: No doubt.

1683
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:45,040
Speaker 5: I'm literally I completed the book. It'll release this fault.

1684
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:46,800
Speaker 5: It's called Tackle What's Next. So it's a playoff of

1685
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:48,880
Speaker 5: my podcast. So it's like a bunch of podcast guests

1686
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:51,120
Speaker 5: who's poured into me because when I started the podcast,

1687
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:53,760
Speaker 5: I didn't have any broadcast gigs or anything going. I

1688
01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:55,440
Speaker 5: was like, ma, now I'm supped to start creating some content,

1689
01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:57,840
Speaker 5: have some good conversations. If you ask my wife what

1690
01:05:57,880 --> 01:05:59,400
Speaker 5: I like to do most in life, you'd be like

1691
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:01,400
Speaker 5: sit around and beer and talk to your buddies and

1692
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 5: be like, yeah, I get to do you know, get

1693
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:04,760
Speaker 5: to make a little money and do that, Like, yeah,

1694
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:08,400
Speaker 5: that sounds awesome exactly, like having conversations like this is

1695
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 5: like what I like to do and so but it's

1696
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:13,200
Speaker 5: a lot about that, like so, yes, you got to

1697
01:06:13,240 --> 01:06:16,480
Speaker 5: live out your dream. But like except that that was

1698
01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:20,000
Speaker 5: awesome and it was incredible and you're you're not gonna

1699
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:20,560
Speaker 5: have that again.

1700
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:22,760
Speaker 1: But man, you can recreate.

1701
01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 5: Like my like the tagline of my podcast, how do

1702
01:06:24,680 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 5: you make your what's next in life?

1703
01:06:25,880 --> 01:06:26,560
Speaker 1: Your best? Yet?

1704
01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:28,800
Speaker 5: So like, go attack that next chapter of life, no

1705
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:30,640
Speaker 5: matter what it is. And so many people are in

1706
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:33,120
Speaker 5: a season of transition right now, whether it's from COVID,

1707
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:36,600
Speaker 5: whether it's work, and like you can be in a

1708
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:38,680
Speaker 5: transition life just because you say, like, man, I want

1709
01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 5: to be better tomorrow, like and not even like putting

1710
01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:43,520
Speaker 5: too much pressure on yourself, like man, like I love

1711
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:45,680
Speaker 5: my boy Ben Newman, but like I'm not gonna do

1712
01:06:45,720 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 5: seventy five hard over and over and over, like that's

1713
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:50,080
Speaker 5: not how I'm wired. But like, man, tomorrow I'm gonna

1714
01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 5: be a better dad, husband. You know, I'm gonna work

1715
01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:54,960
Speaker 5: my tail off. I'm gonna you know, go pursue some

1716
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:57,840
Speaker 5: business stuff cause that fulfills some competition, am I end,

1717
01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:01,360
Speaker 5: but like yeah, it's real. And then creating a schedule

1718
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:03,040
Speaker 5: for yourself is like one of the biggest things when

1719
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:05,680
Speaker 5: you transition out because man, your whole even in the

1720
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 5: off season, it's like, Okay, we're gonna work out, we're

1721
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 5: gonna do this, and like it's all on a schedule

1722
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 5: and our whole lives.

1723
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:13,000
Speaker 1: Like it's what you go to school, your whole life.

1724
01:07:13,040 --> 01:07:14,640
Speaker 1: Then you go to college and you've managed all that.

1725
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Speaker 5: Then all football players, no doubt, right, and then all

1726
01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 5: of a sudden you have no schedule at all. So

1727
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 5: like getting in a routine daily that like serves you,

1728
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:25,320
Speaker 5: that's gonna like put some healthy habits in your life.

1729
01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:27,640
Speaker 5: It's great, but you talked and you hit it on

1730
01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:29,960
Speaker 5: the head. When people are trying to recreate that, that

1731
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:32,160
Speaker 5: how you get from football. That's where you see a

1732
01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:34,640
Speaker 5: lot of people get into trouble business wise. It's like, man,

1733
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:36,520
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go all in on this real estate deal.

1734
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:38,880
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go all in on this. It's like whoa, whoa, whoa.

1735
01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:41,880
Speaker 5: Like my buddy's been doing real estate for thirty years

1736
01:07:42,120 --> 01:07:45,360
Speaker 5: and now you're like you're scouring deals that they've passed

1737
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:48,000
Speaker 5: up for like five months, Like you think that you think.

1738
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:49,520
Speaker 1: You're gonna hit a home run on this, like right,

1739
01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:50,360
Speaker 1: oh no, no, chill.

1740
01:07:50,920 --> 01:07:54,000
Speaker 5: But it's uh, it's been fun to hop into like

1741
01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:57,880
Speaker 5: this podcast world learn from so many people, and you know,

1742
01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:01,800
Speaker 5: part of my passion now is helping people transition and

1743
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 5: and I just feel like as I learned on the podcast,

1744
01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:06,680
Speaker 5: people are learning with me and it's been a ton

1745
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:07,000
Speaker 5: of fun.

1746
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:10,520
Speaker 1: That's awesome. When'd you start it? I started in twenty nineteen.

1747
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:13,200
Speaker 5: So we're like one hundred and fifty something, one hundred

1748
01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 5: and sixty episodes in one a week. Sometimes we do two,

1749
01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:18,679
Speaker 5: sometimes I'll do a solo one and those do pretty

1750
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:19,080
Speaker 5: good ratings.

1751
01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:21,400
Speaker 1: And you can like boost the weekly listens.

1752
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:22,920
Speaker 5: Like if you're trying to get a decent sponsor, you're like, oh, yeah,

1753
01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:24,920
Speaker 5: last week we had you know X amount of listens.

1754
01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:26,680
Speaker 1: It's like, well, we released too that week, but it's

1755
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:27,400
Speaker 1: all good. Yeah.

1756
01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 5: And then for Melth like for me, like I like

1757
01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:35,160
Speaker 5: conversations that are chill like this, I like conversations with

1758
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:38,000
Speaker 5: pastor CEOs, Like I just like to learn from people

1759
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:39,600
Speaker 5: and pick their brains. But if I go back to

1760
01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:41,960
Speaker 5: the bills. Well, like, if I, like I have Brandon

1761
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:44,000
Speaker 5: bean on once a year, that's gonna be one of

1762
01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:47,559
Speaker 5: our biggest episodes. Josh Allen Sean McDermott Like, but like,

1763
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:49,800
Speaker 5: those conversations don't really do a whole lot for me.

1764
01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:52,280
Speaker 1: You know, they're fun. I love those dudes, but like,

1765
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:55,200
Speaker 1: you know, they're necessary for like the Yeah, yeah.

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01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:57,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'll be like yeah, like I'll get a weekly

1767
01:08:57,439 --> 01:08:59,160
Speaker 5: KPI report and I'm yeah, it's time to go back

1768
01:08:59,160 --> 01:08:59,559
Speaker 5: to the bills.

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01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 1: Well again, yea yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, no doubt.

1770
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Speaker 2: We are taking a break from this episode to shout

1771
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:08,799
Speaker 2: out this is awesome. Shout out NASCAR. No for shouts

1772
01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:12,000
Speaker 2: in NASCAR til Junior Flex. NASCAR is headed to the

1773
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:15,519
Speaker 2: Music City this weekend for a weekend of country music

1774
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:18,839
Speaker 2: and racing. Nashville is the greatest place in the world

1775
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 2: to watch the best drivers in the world at the

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01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:25,880
Speaker 2: shortest super speedway on the schedule. Nashville is known for

1777
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:29,360
Speaker 2: great music, honky tonks, and intense racing that you will

1778
01:09:29,400 --> 01:09:32,559
Speaker 2: not find anywhere else. This short one point three miles

1779
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Speaker 2: super Speedway provides a unique challenge for drivers.

1780
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Speaker 1: I apologize for that for.

1781
01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:39,960
Speaker 2: Drivers, as they will battle it out for four hundred

1782
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:42,880
Speaker 2: miles of action with the NASCAR Cup Series race on

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Speaker 2: June twenty six, That is this weekend.

1784
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Speaker 1: Boys, get your tickets.

1785
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Speaker 2: I'll be there, a large Glenny Spider, a lot of

1786
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Speaker 2: the Barsool Boys, and also.

1787
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Speaker 1: The Bust and crew.

1788
01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:54,880
Speaker 2: We're gonna be out there shooting content, making under the hoods,

1789
01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:56,799
Speaker 2: some vlogging, a little bit, having fun with everybody.

1790
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Speaker 1: So if you're out there, try to spot us.

1791
01:09:58,320 --> 01:09:59,960
Speaker 2: We'll have fun with you guys, and we can't wait

1792
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:02,559
Speaker 2: to experience the race live in person. Be sure to

1793
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:05,759
Speaker 2: tune in to the NASCAR Cup Series from Nashville Super

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01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:09,080
Speaker 2: Speedway this Sunday, June twenty six at five o'clock pm

1795
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Speaker 2: Eastern on NBC.

1796
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Speaker 1: That's that's uh, that's uh. What is that?

1797
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:17,960
Speaker 2: Three o'clock Central time, four o'clock Central time, four o'clock

1798
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 2: Central time.

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01:10:18,560 --> 01:10:18,880
Speaker 1: Again.

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Speaker 2: The NASCAR Cup Series is Sunday, June twenty six at

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01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:25,759
Speaker 2: five pm Eastern, four pm Central on NBC.

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Speaker 1: Now back to the episode.

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Speaker 4: Going backwards a little bit, like, what are your thoughts

1804
01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 4: on the Bills offensive line this year? Going into this year,

1805
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:38,280
Speaker 4: Going into this year, I think there'll be solid and

1806
01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:40,960
Speaker 4: like Josh who's your best who's the best? Office liven there?

1807
01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:42,759
Speaker 4: Sean Dawkins left tackle. He's solid.

1808
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:44,800
Speaker 5: You know, he's a little undersized six to three. He

1809
01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:46,679
Speaker 5: came in my rookie his real wind.

1810
01:10:47,479 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 1: Yeah did you hear about that? For Taylor one he did.

1811
01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:52,439
Speaker 4: I got knocked out of the Bills game, like oh

1812
01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 4: yeah yeah, And they were like at the end of

1813
01:10:54,160 --> 01:10:56,200
Speaker 4: the game like their probably the Bills proble left tackle

1814
01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:57,560
Speaker 4: tailor the one wasn't in. If they he would have

1815
01:10:57,560 --> 01:11:00,040
Speaker 4: been there, they would have got that right, Like I

1816
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:01,160
Speaker 4: don't play for that team, boss.

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01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:04,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, And this guy is pretty good. He was

1818
01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:06,200
Speaker 1: in A decent player for sure. Yeah.

1819
01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:08,440
Speaker 5: He's been with a Pro Bowl a couple of times. Yeah,

1820
01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:10,599
Speaker 5: but his rookie year was my last year. So that's

1821
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:12,840
Speaker 5: like my little brother. And Deon doesn't drink, so like

1822
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:15,519
Speaker 5: he was always my d d and like he would

1823
01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:17,280
Speaker 5: come over to the house and you know, all the

1824
01:11:17,280 --> 01:11:19,320
Speaker 5: holidays he's at my house, so like that's my like

1825
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:20,000
Speaker 5: my little brother.

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Speaker 1: I love that dude.

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01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 5: He's like a kind of a throwback too, like the

1828
01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:24,960
Speaker 5: Bill Shraft in the second round at the Temple. He's

1829
01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:27,679
Speaker 5: kind of got this Odell Beckham haircut. And he's real

1830
01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:30,080
Speaker 5: active on social media, and he's goofy with the way

1831
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:32,000
Speaker 5: he talks, and you know, he calls himself the Snowman

1832
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 5: and so.

1833
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:35,720
Speaker 1: Like at first, I was like, you gotta cocaine thing.

1834
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:36,559
Speaker 1: I don't even know.

1835
01:11:36,760 --> 01:11:38,960
Speaker 5: Honestly, I don't even know. I don't know if he's

1836
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:40,840
Speaker 5: got like a lisp. And it was like, yeah, he's

1837
01:11:40,840 --> 01:11:43,559
Speaker 5: trying to say snow. I honestly don't know. We've been

1838
01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:46,680
Speaker 5: we've been friends for six years or five years now,

1839
01:11:46,680 --> 01:11:51,439
Speaker 5: and I don't even know. But so like that's my guy,

1840
01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:54,120
Speaker 5: you know. But he comes in and he's like a

1841
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:57,120
Speaker 5: throwback O Lineman. I'm like, waa wait this dude with

1842
01:11:57,200 --> 01:12:01,599
Speaker 5: this dyed blonde, curly little thing on his head, like

1843
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:03,840
Speaker 5: looking trying to be like Odell Beckham.

1844
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:07,320
Speaker 4: You know, a super like me guy. Yeah, where is

1845
01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:07,839
Speaker 4: the outfit?

1846
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:10,559
Speaker 1: Yeah? That on the body? He comes in. He's throwing

1847
01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:11,080
Speaker 1: people around.

1848
01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:14,559
Speaker 5: He's physical, like physical physical, And Cordy Glenn was playing

1849
01:12:14,600 --> 01:12:17,400
Speaker 5: games with an ankle injury and this and that, and

1850
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:19,720
Speaker 5: Richie was like, give me deon next to me and

1851
01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:22,240
Speaker 5: him and Dion started just throwing dudes out of the kitchen.

1852
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:26,720
Speaker 5: And so Dion's at left at at left tackle at

1853
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:30,080
Speaker 5: left guard. They they didn't resign Feliciano. I like Feliciana.

1854
01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:33,000
Speaker 5: He's a throwback too. Roger yep. So he got saffold.

1855
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:36,679
Speaker 5: Mitch Morris really good center. Ryan Bates will probably play

1856
01:12:36,720 --> 01:12:39,040
Speaker 5: right guard. They re signed him. And then I like

1857
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:40,920
Speaker 5: that young kid, Spencer Brown. Did you watch him at all?

1858
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:41,720
Speaker 5: Number seventy nine?

1859
01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:43,360
Speaker 4: No, I didn't watch him very much, but I was

1860
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:45,840
Speaker 4: at the He had drafted in nineteen, right when the

1861
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:46,879
Speaker 4: draft is in Nashville.

1862
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:49,200
Speaker 1: No, he got drafted this year. Was it talking about

1863
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:51,680
Speaker 1: Cody Ford? That's what I'm thinking. I announced that pick

1864
01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:52,400
Speaker 1: on stage down here.

1865
01:12:52,560 --> 01:12:56,439
Speaker 5: Really yeah, but Cody Ford second round pick, like the

1866
01:12:56,479 --> 01:12:59,519
Speaker 5: Bill Berner bean has not missed on many draft picks,

1867
01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 5: like early on draft picks. And he didn't start last

1868
01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:04,320
Speaker 5: year again, and I don't know this would be his

1869
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:05,080
Speaker 5: last year coming up.

1870
01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:06,840
Speaker 1: But Pop's got a solid o line.

1871
01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:08,880
Speaker 5: They take a ton of heat up there, which all

1872
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:12,280
Speaker 5: the lines take heat. I'm like, look like, get I

1873
01:13:12,280 --> 01:13:14,920
Speaker 5: get all fired up defending the Bills offensive line. But

1874
01:13:15,000 --> 01:13:18,240
Speaker 5: I'll be like, look around the league and just start

1875
01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:21,000
Speaker 5: watching more offensive line film, Like there's not that many

1876
01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:23,760
Speaker 5: good offensive lines in the NFL right now, especially as

1877
01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:25,960
Speaker 5: you go later in the season, because the depth is

1878
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:28,040
Speaker 5: really an issue, like filling a whole low line room

1879
01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:30,479
Speaker 5: with quality players. But I like where the Bills are

1880
01:13:30,479 --> 01:13:32,559
Speaker 5: out with their starting five for sure. Now, when you

1881
01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:35,240
Speaker 5: throw the ball eighty percent of the time, no, you're

1882
01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:37,240
Speaker 5: not gonna have a great run game. You're not gonna

1883
01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:39,120
Speaker 5: get in a rhythm in the run game. And so

1884
01:13:39,240 --> 01:13:40,640
Speaker 5: later in the year they started runn the ball a

1885
01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:42,759
Speaker 5: little bit more paid off for him. But they're good.

1886
01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:45,200
Speaker 5: I mean, the Bill's got a solid team, I mean

1887
01:13:45,240 --> 01:13:47,760
Speaker 5: the top to bottom the quarterback, but other than that,

1888
01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:50,479
Speaker 5: the pass game is definitely a strength. And then the

1889
01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:53,000
Speaker 5: past defense, that back end has played a ton of

1890
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:56,240
Speaker 5: ball together. Those two safeties are so Jordan Poyer and

1891
01:13:56,280 --> 01:14:00,880
Speaker 5: Micah Hyde. They've played, Yeah, so since twenty seventeen, they've

1892
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:03,040
Speaker 5: played pretty much every single game together.

1893
01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:03,880
Speaker 1: So they met.

1894
01:14:04,160 --> 01:14:06,840
Speaker 5: I listened to Tom Brady talk about them, and he's like,

1895
01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:10,280
Speaker 5: no one confuses quarterbacks like they do because they're moving

1896
01:14:10,280 --> 01:14:11,840
Speaker 5: before every snap and they just play off each other.

1897
01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:13,760
Speaker 5: It could be a loud stadium in Buffalo and they're

1898
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:16,400
Speaker 5: just moving and and Will you can probably tell us

1899
01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:18,200
Speaker 5: more about how difficult that could be if like one

1900
01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:20,360
Speaker 5: safety's up on the line of scrimmage. Well like if

1901
01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:22,320
Speaker 5: you're the other States, you're like, when's he coming back?

1902
01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:24,400
Speaker 1: Like wait, dude, you got deep third and you just

1903
01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:25,120
Speaker 1: got to have trust.

1904
01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 5: But those I would say the past defense of the

1905
01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:30,280
Speaker 5: pass offense is the strength, and that's where a team

1906
01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:32,760
Speaker 5: like Tennessee has giving them the most fits these last

1907
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:35,160
Speaker 5: couple of years. New England beats them last year in

1908
01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:37,200
Speaker 5: Buffalo because just running the ball, they.

1909
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:38,720
Speaker 1: Threw the ball three times. Now he was that was

1910
01:14:38,760 --> 01:14:40,439
Speaker 1: a crazy weather game. Crazy weather.

1911
01:14:42,040 --> 01:14:42,680
Speaker 3: Now was.

1912
01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:46,000
Speaker 5: They're trying to they're trying to get more physical upfront

1913
01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:46,960
Speaker 5: on both sides of the ball.

1914
01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:50,000
Speaker 1: I like it, dude, what's your weakness?

1915
01:14:50,720 --> 01:14:57,280
Speaker 5: The Bills weakness last year was rush defense and pass

1916
01:14:57,400 --> 01:15:01,280
Speaker 5: rush like and to me, like the Bill's production in

1917
01:15:01,360 --> 01:15:03,600
Speaker 5: sacks was pretty good, like I think at the end

1918
01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:05,519
Speaker 5: of the year, like number nine or eleven, like kind

1919
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:07,640
Speaker 5: of in that range, like that's good upper middle, but

1920
01:15:08,040 --> 01:15:11,479
Speaker 5: in obvious pass rush situations, they just weren't getting home enough,

1921
01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:15,200
Speaker 5: like obvious pass rush like obvious you know, third and

1922
01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:18,240
Speaker 5: eleven and no one's close like like I know, as

1923
01:15:18,240 --> 01:15:22,240
Speaker 5: an offensive Lineman, Like we're just assuming someone's probably getting beat.

1924
01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:24,639
Speaker 5: You make the quarterback miss two people can't get beat

1925
01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:26,840
Speaker 5: or else then the sack happens, but you're gonna get

1926
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:29,519
Speaker 5: away from one. But they just weren't getting home enough

1927
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:32,360
Speaker 5: in obvious pass rush situations. And that's where, like you

1928
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:35,200
Speaker 5: talk about being critical, I was pretty critical that often. Well,

1929
01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:37,120
Speaker 5: like Jerry Hughes and me we played a ton of

1930
01:15:37,160 --> 01:15:39,519
Speaker 5: ball together, like our wives are good friends, we're good friends,

1931
01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:42,240
Speaker 5: and it's like, how do you navigate that? But like

1932
01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:45,040
Speaker 5: Jerry probably tell you, like, no, you're right, like we

1933
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:45,880
Speaker 5: didn't get home enough.

1934
01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:48,000
Speaker 1: He's got a pretty unique story too, right, because he's

1935
01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:49,800
Speaker 1: the first round pick to the Colts, sending behind in

1936
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:51,240
Speaker 1: Freeny and mathis yeah.

1937
01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:54,240
Speaker 4: But was called a bust yeah for a little bit,

1938
01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:56,280
Speaker 4: and now he's really made a home at the Bills.

1939
01:15:56,360 --> 01:15:57,920
Speaker 1: We traded Kelvin Shepard.

1940
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:01,479
Speaker 5: Kelvin Sheppard shows up in the spring middle linebacker exactly,

1941
01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:06,840
Speaker 5: yep oh shows up, shows up at two hundred and

1942
01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:11,360
Speaker 5: seventy three pounds as a middle linebacker, and trade straight

1943
01:16:11,439 --> 01:16:15,200
Speaker 5: up Jerry Hughes for Kelvin Shephard. I think Kelvin Shepherd's

1944
01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:18,320
Speaker 5: coaching in the league now. Anyways, Jerry's still playing their

1945
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:21,840
Speaker 5: most productive pass rusher for a number of years. I

1946
01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:23,800
Speaker 5: always would tell Jerry before we play you all, because

1947
01:16:23,840 --> 01:16:25,880
Speaker 5: you get under Jerry's skin, no know what you do

1948
01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:28,000
Speaker 5: to him, like talking trash room or gimme a shot

1949
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:28,519
Speaker 5: out to play.

1950
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:30,080
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, cool.

1951
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:32,720
Speaker 5: Like Jerry's gotten what like three personal fouls against the

1952
01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:33,800
Speaker 5: Titans in the last five years.

1953
01:16:34,160 --> 01:16:36,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's definitely gotten upset a few times. Oh, you

1954
01:16:36,520 --> 01:16:37,320
Speaker 1: get under his skin.

1955
01:16:37,560 --> 01:16:39,920
Speaker 5: Like before we all played on Monday Night Football this year,

1956
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:41,280
Speaker 5: I went up to before the game. I was like,

1957
01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:43,760
Speaker 5: no personal fouls, I bro. Yeah, He's like he's like

1958
01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:45,920
Speaker 5: I know, I know. He was like that he is

1959
01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:50,719
Speaker 5: riding like that. Jerry's one of the Jerry Let's go boys, Jerry.

1960
01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:55,960
Speaker 5: Jerry is like one of the greatest people. Like awesome, awesome, dude.

1961
01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:58,479
Speaker 5: He is a hothead. Yeah, oh my gosh. You want

1962
01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:01,080
Speaker 5: to talk about someone talking trash to the refs, Like

1963
01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:03,920
Speaker 5: he'll be on the sideline chirping at the refs. But

1964
01:17:04,439 --> 01:17:06,320
Speaker 5: that's a dude you love to compete with. Like as

1965
01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:08,639
Speaker 5: a teammate, you're like, I'll go about it with that dude.

1966
01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:11,000
Speaker 1: That cares. You know, is he still He's not with

1967
01:17:11,040 --> 01:17:12,160
Speaker 1: the Bills anymore? He is?

1968
01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:15,120
Speaker 5: He He's still there. Actually write that down, boys, right down.

1969
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:17,160
Speaker 5: I don't know if they resigned him or not. I

1970
01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:19,240
Speaker 5: should know that, but I think look.

1971
01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 4: That up real quick to see if they resign him.

1972
01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:24,280
Speaker 4: I actually want to know that. For the Jerry Hughes, yeah,

1973
01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:25,880
Speaker 4: because because I know he was a free agent going

1974
01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:28,280
Speaker 4: in this year, year twelve. Do you guys go to

1975
01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:30,360
Speaker 4: Buffalo this year? I know we played Buffalo. I'm not

1976
01:17:30,360 --> 01:17:31,280
Speaker 4: sure if it's at.

1977
01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:33,559
Speaker 1: Or first in the divisions for the Bills.

1978
01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:35,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, we got the Titians got a schedule. Now, last

1979
01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:39,360
Speaker 4: year we had, like I think when the whole grades

1980
01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:41,080
Speaker 4: come out of like hardest schedule. We were like number

1981
01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:45,000
Speaker 4: one I think, and it went pretty well until the playoffs.

1982
01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:50,320
Speaker 4: Go back to go Gole, Go back to Google and

1983
01:17:50,360 --> 01:17:57,280
Speaker 4: then go to search tools peen tepen Moore or go

1984
01:17:57,400 --> 01:18:02,639
Speaker 4: to the more column right there. What the oh all

1985
01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:07,000
Speaker 4: results do anytime? Anytime ago twenty four hours?

1986
01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:09,679
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1987
01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:12,080
Speaker 4: Oh hey back in the day when you're something new

1988
01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:13,960
Speaker 4: every day, when you're in college, when you're in college

1989
01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:15,519
Speaker 4: and like trying to like figure out hey, like what

1990
01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:16,479
Speaker 4: are people thinking about me.

1991
01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:18,400
Speaker 1: I would do this shit all the time. It is

1992
01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:18,920
Speaker 1: so bad.

1993
01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:21,640
Speaker 4: What was your last year of college? Twenty thirteen? And

1994
01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:23,920
Speaker 4: I saw I got jacket at fourteen? Gotcha well?

1995
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:26,720
Speaker 5: And we had Kurt Anderson, Michigan guy, so he was

1996
01:18:26,720 --> 01:18:28,280
Speaker 5: always talking about it and we were like looking at

1997
01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:29,599
Speaker 5: maybe taking a tackle early.

1998
01:18:30,200 --> 01:18:30,479
Speaker 1: Oh.

1999
01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:32,439
Speaker 5: So Kurt was always like, dude, we might be getting

2000
01:18:32,439 --> 01:18:35,240
Speaker 5: my boy laanen. And I don't know how close you'all were,

2001
01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:36,280
Speaker 5: just like your Michigan guys.

2002
01:18:36,360 --> 01:18:38,600
Speaker 1: Yea guys are No, we weren't very close with us,

2003
01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:40,000
Speaker 1: very cool he said that. Yeah.

2004
01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:41,840
Speaker 4: I was like, I definitely don't think I would have

2005
01:18:41,840 --> 01:18:43,479
Speaker 4: wanted to play for the Bills, just how cold it is.

2006
01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:47,680
Speaker 5: It's amazing what these last few years has done for

2007
01:18:47,800 --> 01:18:49,720
Speaker 5: like free agent signings and people wanted to get your

2008
01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:51,240
Speaker 5: people want to go to the Bills now.

2009
01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:54,799
Speaker 4: People don't realize is when you say, like, oh, why

2010
01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:56,400
Speaker 4: would people go to the Bills when they can go

2011
01:18:56,439 --> 01:18:58,760
Speaker 4: to LA It's like you're really spending six months out

2012
01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:00,080
Speaker 4: of the year there and it gets cold for a

2013
01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:01,559
Speaker 4: few months and then you can book it, you can

2014
01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:02,759
Speaker 4: lead you know what I'm saying.

2015
01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:06,160
Speaker 5: And it's actually pretty fun. To play up in Buffalo,

2016
01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:07,880
Speaker 5: being completely honest.

2017
01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:09,479
Speaker 1: Like we all live a lot of trouble. Richie was

2018
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:10,200
Speaker 1: telling me about it.

2019
01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:13,320
Speaker 5: Like we all live by each other and so like

2020
01:19:13,640 --> 01:19:15,719
Speaker 5: in a city like this is in a monster city.

2021
01:19:15,720 --> 01:19:17,799
Speaker 5: But like in La, guys the forty five minutes apart,

2022
01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:19,559
Speaker 5: Like you leave the stadium, you're not gonna see them again.

2023
01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:21,000
Speaker 1: And I hang with the worlds like I come home

2024
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:23,200
Speaker 1: from work. We had eight guys that lived in our neighborhood.

2025
01:19:23,520 --> 01:19:26,000
Speaker 5: Me and Richie shared a backyard his uncle, Richie did

2026
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:29,200
Speaker 5: my little Gracy girl. But like I'd get home and

2027
01:19:29,240 --> 01:19:31,519
Speaker 5: like Leslie and Grace would be like off playing at

2028
01:19:31,520 --> 01:19:34,760
Speaker 5: someone else's house, like enjoying themselves and so like it's

2029
01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:36,280
Speaker 5: a ton of fun. And then you're right as soon

2030
01:19:36,320 --> 01:19:37,519
Speaker 5: as the season's over, you can vacation.

2031
01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:39,599
Speaker 4: You can live wherever you want, wherever you want, and

2032
01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:42,400
Speaker 4: like when you're up there, you should be working anyways,

2033
01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:44,479
Speaker 4: like it's grind time in the season, Like who cares

2034
01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:46,799
Speaker 4: if you're in La, Like, yeah, what was your regiment

2035
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 4: like when you were playing for me? Like I don't

2036
01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:52,000
Speaker 4: there's no drinking during the season for me at all.

2037
01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:52,920
Speaker 4: I just can't do it.

2038
01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:53,400
Speaker 1: And I hate.

2039
01:19:53,439 --> 01:19:55,280
Speaker 4: Like for me, it's always like, how do I stay

2040
01:19:55,280 --> 01:19:57,080
Speaker 4: ahead of the sticks? How do I make sure that

2041
01:19:57,080 --> 01:19:58,920
Speaker 4: my body's right going next week? And if I drink

2042
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:01,760
Speaker 4: on a Sunday, even that next Sunday, let's say I'm

2043
01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:03,559
Speaker 4: not feeling as good or my conditioning is as good,

2044
01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:05,280
Speaker 4: I feel something, I'm like, fuck, you fucked it up

2045
01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:06,559
Speaker 4: for yourself, you know what I'm saying.

2046
01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:10,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I would drink Sunday or Monday generally, not

2047
01:20:11,160 --> 01:20:13,840
Speaker 5: like crazy. Now, if I got like a bunch of

2048
01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:15,840
Speaker 5: buddies in town, I'll kick back some drinks with them

2049
01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:18,599
Speaker 5: after a game. So after every single game home games,

2050
01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:20,439
Speaker 5: I hosted a tailgate in my truck after the game

2051
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:23,360
Speaker 5: because it takes like an hour. Yeah, it takes like

2052
01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:25,880
Speaker 5: an hour and a half for the parking lot to

2053
01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:27,320
Speaker 5: clear out after you get out there.

2054
01:20:27,479 --> 01:20:29,440
Speaker 1: Well, we lived one mile from the stadium.

2055
01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:32,080
Speaker 5: If I left right after the game or I waited

2056
01:20:32,120 --> 01:20:34,280
Speaker 5: an hour, I'd get home about fifteen minutes apart. So yeah,

2057
01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:37,600
Speaker 5: I started packing a cooler and put a bunch of

2058
01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:38,599
Speaker 5: beers in the back of my truck.

2059
01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:40,840
Speaker 1: And honestly it was awesome fellowship like with the guys.

2060
01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:43,040
Speaker 5: As the game, everyone come by and everyone knew they

2061
01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:45,080
Speaker 5: were invited, like and so then you end up having

2062
01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:46,840
Speaker 5: to pack more and more, and then you know, some

2063
01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:48,439
Speaker 5: of the young guys like, hey, bring a couple extra

2064
01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:50,200
Speaker 5: thirty packs and you know, we'll throw them in.

2065
01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:52,240
Speaker 1: So we'd have a few beers chill out.

2066
01:20:52,400 --> 01:20:54,160
Speaker 5: Went to the same Italian spot when I broke my

2067
01:20:54,240 --> 01:20:56,720
Speaker 5: leg and half my rookie year, this Italian restaurant half

2068
01:20:56,800 --> 01:20:59,840
Speaker 5: and a half. Yeah, this Italian restaurant started just bringing

2069
01:20:59,840 --> 01:21:01,400
Speaker 5: over dinner for me and my wife, and I was like,

2070
01:21:01,439 --> 01:21:03,200
Speaker 5: you know what, I'm gonna be loyal to them, dude.

2071
01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:06,000
Speaker 5: They're still like I still eat there after every Bill's broadcast. Now,

2072
01:21:06,040 --> 01:21:07,960
Speaker 5: like after every game, we'd go in there, well at

2073
01:21:08,000 --> 01:21:10,120
Speaker 5: like nine, they'd shut the doors and lock the place

2074
01:21:10,479 --> 01:21:12,200
Speaker 5: and we would just we could do whatever we wanted

2075
01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:13,720
Speaker 5: and there watching that tod night football and chill out,

2076
01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:15,080
Speaker 5: and it was like our own little spot, like own

2077
01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:17,840
Speaker 5: little getaway. That's also the Talian spot. So I would

2078
01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:20,040
Speaker 5: generally drink on Sunday nights after home games. But I'm

2079
01:21:20,080 --> 01:21:22,240
Speaker 5: not like getting crushed, but like I'm the ultimate like

2080
01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:25,080
Speaker 5: reset button still to this day, Like like you know,

2081
01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:26,240
Speaker 5: we came down, we went.

2082
01:21:26,160 --> 01:21:27,720
Speaker 1: To Rubies, and I have no clue what you were

2083
01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:29,479
Speaker 1: talking about. We went, we went down, We went down

2084
01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:31,360
Speaker 1: to Rubies. Last night, we went to Jeff Rubies down here.

2085
01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:33,320
Speaker 5: Last night, you and the wife met up with a

2086
01:21:33,520 --> 01:21:36,040
Speaker 5: former teammate of mine, Mike Coston. We went out, had

2087
01:21:36,040 --> 01:21:38,960
Speaker 5: a few beers afterwards, like this morning, get in the gym,

2088
01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:43,040
Speaker 5: sweat it out a bunch of electrolytes, rehydrate, boom back in,

2089
01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:43,720
Speaker 5: back in it.

2090
01:21:43,760 --> 01:21:44,920
Speaker 1: So like even when I was playing.

2091
01:21:45,080 --> 01:21:46,760
Speaker 5: But I'm like you, like I'd see dudes drink on

2092
01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:50,040
Speaker 5: Fridays and I was like, man if I cramped up

2093
01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:52,240
Speaker 5: in the game on Sunday and I drank on a Friday, like,

2094
01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:54,479
Speaker 5: I would never forget, I would never forgive myself.

2095
01:21:54,560 --> 01:21:56,680
Speaker 1: No. And I'm like such a warrior, Like a.

2096
01:21:56,640 --> 01:22:00,240
Speaker 5: Buddy of mine played a decade at tackling the league.

2097
01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:02,920
Speaker 1: I mean he got blacked out every Friday night.

2098
01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:04,760
Speaker 5: And like a lot of those dudes in like Green

2099
01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:09,160
Speaker 5: Bay back in the day, like uh, sitting in those dudes, Yeah,

2100
01:22:09,240 --> 01:22:11,599
Speaker 5: they drank every week and they balled out with it and.

2101
01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:14,080
Speaker 1: Looked like he drank every single day. He had that body.

2102
01:22:14,200 --> 01:22:15,800
Speaker 4: I know, But like I would never be able to

2103
01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:16,439
Speaker 4: forgive myself.

2104
01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:19,760
Speaker 2: We come in on a Saturday for like the walkthroughs

2105
01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:22,240
Speaker 2: and everything else, and there'd be a there'd be a

2106
01:22:22,280 --> 01:22:25,320
Speaker 2: couple of dudes sleeping in the fucking locker room right

2107
01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:28,519
Speaker 2: from being out there before, just crazy alcohol smelling drunk.

2108
01:22:28,560 --> 01:22:31,920
Speaker 1: Still, it's just like, yo, what are you fucking doing? Right?

2109
01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:37,040
Speaker 5: Was a lot like that league, and that's like Rex

2110
01:22:37,320 --> 01:22:41,160
Speaker 5: was like real like Rex's personality, he said, like his

2111
01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:44,479
Speaker 5: coaching style is to empower you, like, dude, you're the

2112
01:22:44,520 --> 01:22:46,800
Speaker 5: baddest dude on our team. Like I remember we brought

2113
01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:52,720
Speaker 5: in Percy Harvey yesterday and uh, but he was like

2114
01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:55,040
Speaker 5: he's so empowering. Well, we had all these young cats

2115
01:22:55,080 --> 01:22:59,080
Speaker 5: that they like drafted, all these like wild dudes. Well

2116
01:22:59,080 --> 01:23:02,240
Speaker 5: then Rex is like empowering him. Like you go like,

2117
01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:04,479
Speaker 5: you do your thing, do whatever you got to do

2118
01:23:04,479 --> 01:23:06,280
Speaker 5: to get ready for the game. And they're all hammered

2119
01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:07,679
Speaker 5: on Friday night, come in Saturday.

2120
01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:09,680
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh god, we got no shot, like we

2121
01:23:09,760 --> 01:23:12,320
Speaker 4: Oh that's the worst feeling, dude. I know when you

2122
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:15,040
Speaker 4: kind of just know she hasn't been going the way

2123
01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:19,200
Speaker 4: it ship this week, I said anything, damn I know it.

2124
01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:21,639
Speaker 4: I freaking love Rex. Though he's such a good dude,

2125
01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:24,400
Speaker 4: and you said he lives here. Yeah, yeah, he'd probably

2126
01:23:24,439 --> 01:23:24,960
Speaker 4: be fun to get on.

2127
01:23:25,040 --> 01:23:28,720
Speaker 1: It was over at any Lavetrie used to live over there.

2128
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:30,959
Speaker 1: You played Andy, right, Yeah, great dude.

2129
01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:32,200
Speaker 4: Great dude he was. He was one of my grooms

2130
01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:34,240
Speaker 4: with my wedding. Really yeah, that's awesome.

2131
01:23:34,320 --> 01:23:34,479
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2132
01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:36,120
Speaker 4: The only time I've ever been up in Buffalo was

2133
01:23:36,120 --> 01:23:38,760
Speaker 4: for his wedding with his wife. Was like July fourth weekend. Yeah,

2134
01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:42,439
Speaker 4: real selfish weekend to have a wedding. Because absolutely, I'm

2135
01:23:42,479 --> 01:23:45,040
Speaker 4: trying to it's the best holiday, second best holiday behind

2136
01:23:45,080 --> 01:23:47,200
Speaker 4: in the Halloween in my opinion. But we went out

2137
01:23:47,200 --> 01:23:49,479
Speaker 4: there and we had some wings. I don't know what

2138
01:23:49,479 --> 01:23:51,240
Speaker 4: the fuss is about in Buffalo with the wings.

2139
01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:52,920
Speaker 1: You didn't go to the right spot then, I mean,

2140
01:23:52,920 --> 01:23:53,880
Speaker 1: I got there's some wings up there.

2141
01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:55,760
Speaker 4: Change and he took us to Spice like this is it.

2142
01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:57,640
Speaker 4: I don't remember what it's called. I'm not here to

2143
01:23:57,720 --> 01:23:59,720
Speaker 4: I'm not here. I'm gonna get killed by Bill's mafia again.

2144
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:01,559
Speaker 1: But I wasn't. I didn't understand it.

2145
01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:06,200
Speaker 4: Tastes like Hooters wings breaded, weren't very good.

2146
01:24:06,240 --> 01:24:09,280
Speaker 1: I'm beyond the spot. I never take place bred of wings. No,

2147
01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:11,200
Speaker 1: no way, what's the best spot? I love? How you

2148
01:24:11,240 --> 01:24:14,920
Speaker 1: want violence against Bill's mafia. I don't want my favorite

2149
01:24:14,960 --> 01:24:16,519
Speaker 1: Hooters wings. That's my experience.

2150
01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:18,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, my favorite spot is a place called Bar Bill

2151
01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:21,120
Speaker 5: and it's like a craft like they take it serious.

2152
01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:24,040
Speaker 5: That thing up bar Bill, bar Bill b A R

2153
01:24:24,160 --> 01:24:25,320
Speaker 5: space B I L L.

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Speaker 1: They do it right. How do they do these wings?

2155
01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:33,080
Speaker 5: I mean they're like hating the sauce on there. It's

2156
01:24:33,080 --> 01:24:38,240
Speaker 5: the presentation. They separate the drums from the flats, homemade

2157
01:24:38,760 --> 01:24:39,839
Speaker 5: homemade blue cheese.

2158
01:24:40,840 --> 01:24:43,400
Speaker 1: Maybe we're on a potographic website right now.

2159
01:24:46,160 --> 01:24:49,160
Speaker 4: Hey, I do love chicken wings like crazy. No that

2160
01:24:49,200 --> 01:24:53,200
Speaker 4: she looks fire? Yeah, yeah that I got my own

2161
01:24:53,240 --> 01:24:53,720
Speaker 4: bug there.

2162
01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:58,160
Speaker 5: And so like generally, when I'm drinking, generally, generally, when

2163
01:24:58,200 --> 01:25:01,639
Speaker 5: I'm drinking, my mouth say, I'll say, like the waitress back,

2164
01:25:01,680 --> 01:25:03,519
Speaker 5: you want another, like, I'll do one more. Like that

2165
01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:05,519
Speaker 5: doesn't mean that's my last one, Like I just want

2166
01:25:05,520 --> 01:25:07,439
Speaker 5: one at that time. So they did a mug for me.

2167
01:25:07,560 --> 01:25:10,719
Speaker 5: It said I'll do one more. And then you've probably

2168
01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:14,000
Speaker 5: drank with Richie before. Every time Richie drinks the next morning,

2169
01:25:14,040 --> 01:25:16,519
Speaker 5: it's I'm never drinking again. Yeah, I had them do

2170
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:19,599
Speaker 5: a mug that said I'm never drinking again. For Richie boys.

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Speaker 1: Boys. Back to the episode, that's hilarious. What was it

2193
01:26:22,080 --> 01:26:24,280
Speaker 1: like playing with Richie Richie's is this now? Is this

2194
01:26:24,320 --> 01:26:26,400
Speaker 1: locker room talk? Oh?

2195
01:26:26,439 --> 01:26:28,160
Speaker 2: I know the locker room talk. I don't know what

2196
01:26:28,200 --> 01:26:30,439
Speaker 2: your story was. If it was, no, I'll always talk

2197
01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:31,840
Speaker 2: about that. I was just trying to get his creative.

2198
01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:33,840
Speaker 2: I was just thinking about, like, you know, I love that.

2199
01:26:33,880 --> 01:26:36,320
Speaker 5: I'm sorry for sending the growth of this, okay, and

2200
01:26:36,360 --> 01:26:38,200
Speaker 5: then I'll get into a good story with Richie because

2201
01:26:38,240 --> 01:26:40,240
Speaker 5: you prepped me on that and I got a funny one.

2202
01:26:40,280 --> 01:26:42,759
Speaker 1: But we playing with Richie was awesome.

2203
01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:46,679
Speaker 5: In twenty fifteen, in February, Doug Whaley is our GM

2204
01:26:46,920 --> 01:26:48,960
Speaker 5: and he reached out to me, he said, and we

2205
01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:50,920
Speaker 5: had gone into the offseason no, and we needed a

2206
01:26:50,920 --> 01:26:51,679
Speaker 5: couple of new guards.

2207
01:26:52,040 --> 01:26:53,760
Speaker 1: You know he would He was like, he's like, he's

2208
01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:56,080
Speaker 1: like player in coach. Oh, yeah, he kind of. He can.

2209
01:26:56,200 --> 01:26:57,920
Speaker 1: He's able to play Bothy. Some mine like that. He's

2210
01:26:57,920 --> 01:26:59,920
Speaker 1: got very much. Ben Jones pipes to me.

2211
01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:03,400
Speaker 4: Are like a lot of centers are like, yeah, we're

2212
01:27:03,439 --> 01:27:06,160
Speaker 4: just smart. Just cut the same way and with the coaches,

2213
01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:07,439
Speaker 4: corporate guys.

2214
01:27:07,640 --> 01:27:09,280
Speaker 1: See, I said, down with the coach, we're kind of talking,

2215
01:27:09,400 --> 01:27:10,840
Speaker 1: you know, we kind of need we kind of knew.

2216
01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:13,280
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that's like Kyle Lorten came to the Bills.

2217
01:27:13,320 --> 01:27:15,160
Speaker 5: He's like, you're such a company guy. I'm like, Orton,

2218
01:27:15,200 --> 01:27:18,720
Speaker 5: you've been with five different teams and like, maybe you

2219
01:27:18,760 --> 01:27:19,320
Speaker 5: should be a.

2220
01:27:19,240 --> 01:27:21,280
Speaker 1: Little bit more of a company guy. But we learned

2221
01:27:21,280 --> 01:27:22,200
Speaker 1: the game a little bit more.

2222
01:27:22,439 --> 01:27:26,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, ship on the company guys. But it's not

2223
01:27:26,560 --> 01:27:28,760
Speaker 4: a bad gig. No, it's not a bad gig to

2224
01:27:28,760 --> 01:27:31,880
Speaker 4: be that dude. No, I just have an issue with authority. Yeah.

2225
01:27:31,720 --> 01:27:33,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, it used to be heavy and the you know,

2226
01:27:34,320 --> 01:27:36,720
Speaker 1: the police. You know what I'm saying, the company guys.

2227
01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:38,840
Speaker 4: But so Doug Whaley called me up, what do you

2228
01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:39,800
Speaker 4: think about bringing Richie?

2229
01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:40,759
Speaker 1: And we had the same agent.

2230
01:27:40,840 --> 01:27:42,839
Speaker 5: I'd met him at a bunch of events with athletes

2231
01:27:42,880 --> 01:27:45,160
Speaker 5: first and this and that. Loved the dude, and I

2232
01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:47,200
Speaker 5: was like, bring him in. I know he went through

2233
01:27:47,200 --> 01:27:48,880
Speaker 5: all that crap in Miami. I've talked to him about

2234
01:27:48,880 --> 01:27:52,160
Speaker 5: it personally. It'll be good, I'll you know. He moved

2235
01:27:52,160 --> 01:27:52,840
Speaker 5: in like right.

2236
01:27:52,720 --> 01:27:54,639
Speaker 1: Behind the incredible to his side of the story.

2237
01:27:55,840 --> 01:27:58,280
Speaker 5: It's at some point he needs to write a book

2238
01:27:58,280 --> 01:27:59,240
Speaker 5: and tell his side of the story.

2239
01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:01,400
Speaker 1: It would be probably be a best sellery.

2240
01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:04,479
Speaker 4: What Jonathan Martin Jonathan Martin story with Jonathan said he

2241
01:28:04,520 --> 01:28:05,720
Speaker 4: was getting bullied and stuff like that.

2242
01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:08,880
Speaker 1: Oh racial stuff.

2243
01:28:09,560 --> 01:28:11,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, listen, you know my vibe on that stuff. You

2244
01:28:11,880 --> 01:28:13,320
Speaker 4: should never say the N word or anything. And I

2245
01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:16,320
Speaker 4: think there was a voicemail or something. Yeah, but they

2246
01:28:16,360 --> 01:28:18,599
Speaker 4: were apparently they had a relationship. They had a relationship

2247
01:28:18,640 --> 01:28:20,439
Speaker 4: where like he was okay with him saying that. I

2248
01:28:20,439 --> 01:28:21,920
Speaker 4: don't know, like I said, I'm not cool with that.

2249
01:28:21,880 --> 01:28:25,400
Speaker 5: Word, but Richie know what at that time, Like Richie

2250
01:28:25,400 --> 01:28:27,439
Speaker 5: wouldn't do that. Now I'd assume, you know what I mean,

2251
01:28:27,479 --> 01:28:29,760
Speaker 5: Like it wasn't whatever it was, it's always been a

2252
01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:33,439
Speaker 5: big deal regardless we bring in Richie. He was great

2253
01:28:33,479 --> 01:28:36,599
Speaker 5: for us, Like, never got in trouble. He's smart, he's physical.

2254
01:28:36,760 --> 01:28:40,000
Speaker 5: I've never us used to train with Richie. I've never

2255
01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:41,479
Speaker 5: been around anyone as strong as Richie.

2256
01:28:41,479 --> 01:28:43,439
Speaker 1: I mean he's kind of a guy. You're just like,

2257
01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:45,320
Speaker 1: all right, do this weight now, and he's like, okay.

2258
01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:47,240
Speaker 1: I never seen him struggle with weight.

2259
01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:49,719
Speaker 5: They wouldn't let him lift enough weight in Buffalo even

2260
01:28:49,760 --> 01:28:52,960
Speaker 5: like truly challenge himself and it's like unbelievable. Like I'm

2261
01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:55,280
Speaker 5: doing like two seventy five on incline and they're like,

2262
01:28:55,280 --> 01:28:57,719
Speaker 5: all right, just slap another uh played on the outside

2263
01:28:57,760 --> 01:28:59,800
Speaker 5: for Richie. I'm like what and like all right, I'll

2264
01:28:59,800 --> 01:29:02,160
Speaker 5: put another court on the outside for Richie. Just bangs

2265
01:29:02,160 --> 01:29:04,760
Speaker 5: it racks and like you can't go any higher, Like yeah,

2266
01:29:04,920 --> 01:29:07,559
Speaker 5: like holy smoke, this crazy strong rogers a lot like that.

2267
01:29:07,880 --> 01:29:11,000
Speaker 5: He's extremely strong, but go ahead with Yeah, So Richie,

2268
01:29:11,120 --> 01:29:14,840
Speaker 5: Richie was absolutely awesome to play with. You know, we

2269
01:29:14,880 --> 01:29:17,800
Speaker 5: may Pro Bowl together, had a ton of fun out

2270
01:29:17,800 --> 01:29:20,120
Speaker 5: in Hawaii with him, and we've gotten really close.

2271
01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:20,519
Speaker 1: Over the years.

2272
01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:23,680
Speaker 5: You know, he's truly one of my best friends now.

2273
01:29:24,760 --> 01:29:27,920
Speaker 5: But so we were talking about stories and whatnot earlier.

2274
01:29:29,240 --> 01:29:30,599
Speaker 5: So we used to take our old line trips out

2275
01:29:30,640 --> 01:29:32,040
Speaker 5: of the season. So do you all do the fine

2276
01:29:32,080 --> 01:29:32,760
Speaker 5: system in your room?

2277
01:29:32,840 --> 01:29:34,840
Speaker 1: Yeah? Okay, so we do the fine system? Is that

2278
01:29:34,880 --> 01:29:36,559
Speaker 1: the locker room story? Yeah?

2279
01:29:36,640 --> 01:29:38,600
Speaker 4: Well, this this is gonna be a like this is

2280
01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:40,360
Speaker 4: a Richie Line story?

2281
01:29:40,439 --> 01:29:40,639
Speaker 3: Right?

2282
01:29:41,040 --> 01:29:42,080
Speaker 1: What year is this?

2283
01:29:42,080 --> 01:29:46,360
Speaker 5: This is twenty sixteen? This is this is January of

2284
01:29:46,400 --> 01:29:48,559
Speaker 5: twenty seventeen. Because I have a walking boot on, which

2285
01:29:48,600 --> 01:29:51,240
Speaker 5: contributes to the story because I just broke my leg.

2286
01:29:52,400 --> 01:29:54,479
Speaker 5: So we used to always go to Vegas with half

2287
01:29:54,520 --> 01:29:56,679
Speaker 5: the fine money. The other half we'd like take kids

2288
01:29:56,720 --> 01:29:59,719
Speaker 5: Christmas shop, and then we justified taking this like Vegas

2289
01:29:59,720 --> 01:30:01,120
Speaker 5: trip and we just go out there and spend a

2290
01:30:01,120 --> 01:30:03,360
Speaker 5: bunch of money. And but like after the season, like

2291
01:30:03,400 --> 01:30:04,880
Speaker 5: you're so stressed out all year, then you go to

2292
01:30:04,960 --> 01:30:07,639
Speaker 5: Vegas and like your heart's racing the whole time. They're

2293
01:30:07,680 --> 01:30:09,640
Speaker 5: like gouging you every time you walk in anywhere with

2294
01:30:09,680 --> 01:30:12,000
Speaker 5: ten fat dudes. It's like, all right, screw this. I

2295
01:30:12,040 --> 01:30:13,920
Speaker 5: was like, let's go to Key West one time, Like

2296
01:30:14,000 --> 01:30:16,080
Speaker 5: hear me out, Let's go down Key West, Like you

2297
01:30:16,120 --> 01:30:18,439
Speaker 5: can leave the room and flip flops, t shirt and

2298
01:30:18,479 --> 01:30:21,080
Speaker 5: shorts in the morning, eat anywhere you want, Like it's

2299
01:30:21,160 --> 01:30:23,360
Speaker 5: just chill, Like, let's go down there, chill out. So

2300
01:30:23,400 --> 01:30:25,240
Speaker 5: we go down there after a couple of pretty big

2301
01:30:25,280 --> 01:30:26,960
Speaker 5: days of drink and we wake up the third day,

2302
01:30:27,280 --> 01:30:29,320
Speaker 5: we go to your grab brunch and we're like, man,

2303
01:30:29,400 --> 01:30:32,360
Speaker 5: nothing sounds good. Ask the waitress, like, give us something

2304
01:30:32,640 --> 01:30:36,640
Speaker 5: that's not tequila, bourbon beer, this, that, And she's like,

2305
01:30:36,760 --> 01:30:39,519
Speaker 5: how about a darkened store and like a rum and whatever, Yeah,

2306
01:30:39,560 --> 01:30:42,719
Speaker 5: let's do it. So then the waitress is like, after

2307
01:30:42,720 --> 01:30:44,280
Speaker 5: we had a few, she's like, you know who drinks

2308
01:30:44,600 --> 01:30:47,280
Speaker 5: rum before noon? Like who like pirates? I was like

2309
01:30:47,320 --> 01:30:50,280
Speaker 5: that's pretty good. So then we became pirates. So on

2310
01:30:50,280 --> 01:30:51,040
Speaker 5: on the island.

2311
01:30:51,720 --> 01:30:53,200
Speaker 1: So then we became pirates.

2312
01:30:53,240 --> 01:30:57,479
Speaker 5: So on the island, they have an authentic costume store

2313
01:30:57,880 --> 01:31:01,719
Speaker 5: that like specializes in pirateouf. So we spend five of us,

2314
01:31:02,080 --> 01:31:04,400
Speaker 5: four of us go spend twenty five hundred dollars on

2315
01:31:04,600 --> 01:31:08,639
Speaker 5: pirate out. It's each total, okay, And.

2316
01:31:08,640 --> 01:31:11,120
Speaker 4: I'm in a boots, so obviously I'm like Captain Hook

2317
01:31:11,200 --> 01:31:15,240
Speaker 4: with the peg leg and the hat and coat and.

2318
01:31:15,040 --> 01:31:18,439
Speaker 5: Like ruffled shirt. And Richie's got this whole big deal.

2319
01:31:18,479 --> 01:31:21,320
Speaker 5: And so we're walking around as pirates. We're walking into

2320
01:31:21,360 --> 01:31:24,559
Speaker 5: bars and Richie would just rake tables of drinks off

2321
01:31:25,040 --> 01:31:28,519
Speaker 5: and we literally I would literally have to like and

2322
01:31:28,520 --> 01:31:30,599
Speaker 5: people would be like, oh my god, that's Richie incognito.

2323
01:31:30,680 --> 01:31:32,200
Speaker 5: I'm like, I know we're gonna make it right. I'm

2324
01:31:32,240 --> 01:31:33,960
Speaker 5: gonna buy you two rounds of drinks out of this.

2325
01:31:34,240 --> 01:31:35,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're all good clean.

2326
01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:37,599
Speaker 4: He just fucking oh, he's a he's a wild animal

2327
01:31:37,640 --> 01:31:39,599
Speaker 4: and he drinks you. It's but it's fun times.

2328
01:31:39,680 --> 01:31:43,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean malicious, he's just yeah shop, yes,

2329
01:31:43,600 --> 01:31:46,320
Speaker 5: i mean he's just so big. But anyways, so like

2330
01:31:46,439 --> 01:31:48,760
Speaker 5: our favorite times are like when are we gonna go

2331
01:31:48,840 --> 01:31:51,519
Speaker 5: back and be pirates again? And I mean we would

2332
01:31:51,560 --> 01:31:53,000
Speaker 5: do those old line trips, like do you all do

2333
01:31:53,000 --> 01:31:53,920
Speaker 5: an oldlane trip as the year?

2334
01:31:54,000 --> 01:31:55,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, we went to Vegas this year.

2335
01:31:55,280 --> 01:31:57,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm always big on getting the boys to Cabo,

2336
01:31:57,880 --> 01:32:00,160
Speaker 4: and everyone's all about it in August it's September. Then

2337
01:32:00,200 --> 01:32:02,439
Speaker 4: October hits been like, you know, Vegas is closer, we

2338
01:32:02,439 --> 01:32:04,479
Speaker 4: could do that. Oh we all want to gamble and

2339
01:32:04,479 --> 01:32:06,320
Speaker 4: then all of a sudden Vegas happens.

2340
01:32:06,439 --> 01:32:07,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2341
01:32:07,160 --> 01:32:10,040
Speaker 5: Well, Cabo's maybe one of my favorite plays on there.

2342
01:32:10,120 --> 01:32:13,879
Speaker 5: Yeah me my wife won seven straight off seasons. Really yeah,

2343
01:32:13,960 --> 01:32:15,920
Speaker 5: it's one of my favorite places in the world. Yeah,

2344
01:32:15,920 --> 01:32:16,880
Speaker 5: I know, you talk about all the time.

2345
01:32:17,439 --> 01:32:21,320
Speaker 1: The one time the Hill Petrigal got like the yeah

2346
01:32:21,320 --> 01:32:23,400
Speaker 1: you know, okay my man's local.

2347
01:32:23,520 --> 01:32:26,080
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, we did that one year and then

2348
01:32:26,600 --> 01:32:27,120
Speaker 4: that place is.

2349
01:32:27,080 --> 01:32:29,200
Speaker 1: Great because you're five minutes from downtown squid Road. The

2350
01:32:29,200 --> 01:32:29,559
Speaker 1: whole thing.

2351
01:32:29,680 --> 01:32:31,719
Speaker 5: My favorite spot is the Hassi End of Beach Club

2352
01:32:31,920 --> 01:32:35,080
Speaker 5: because you can get those private residents there, like if the.

2353
01:32:35,040 --> 01:32:36,519
Speaker 1: Wives want to lay out and chill.

2354
01:32:36,880 --> 01:32:38,640
Speaker 5: You can walk right from your place down on the

2355
01:32:38,640 --> 01:32:41,120
Speaker 5: beach and you're like forty steps from like Mango Deck

2356
01:32:41,160 --> 01:32:43,240
Speaker 5: and all that my fast my favorite bar there, yep.

2357
01:32:43,280 --> 01:32:44,800
Speaker 5: And then you got the office right there like that,

2358
01:32:44,840 --> 01:32:46,720
Speaker 5: you can just walk to it all. But then you

2359
01:32:46,720 --> 01:32:48,559
Speaker 5: get inside your like little gates and you're at a

2360
01:32:48,560 --> 01:32:49,320
Speaker 5: five star spot.

2361
01:32:49,320 --> 01:32:50,840
Speaker 4: You know, the owner of Mango, you know how they do,

2362
01:32:50,920 --> 01:32:52,280
Speaker 4: like the shows every day, Like there's a wet T

2363
01:32:52,400 --> 01:32:53,920
Speaker 4: shirt contest one day and the next day it's like

2364
01:32:53,960 --> 01:32:56,479
Speaker 4: a push up contest. Anytime they do the push up contest,

2365
01:32:56,479 --> 01:32:59,080
Speaker 4: there's always like the sixty five year old dude who's

2366
01:32:59,120 --> 01:33:01,400
Speaker 4: like in a baggy T shirt and kind of just

2367
01:33:01,400 --> 01:33:03,280
Speaker 4: sitting there having a drink. And they get all these billy,

2368
01:33:03,320 --> 01:33:05,280
Speaker 4: badass tough guys on spring break to kind of go

2369
01:33:05,360 --> 01:33:07,640
Speaker 4: up there and do their do the test. Well, the

2370
01:33:07,720 --> 01:33:12,240
Speaker 4: guy apparently he's the owner and he's fucking rocked up,

2371
01:33:12,680 --> 01:33:14,640
Speaker 4: and they like start egging on the older guy to

2372
01:33:14,800 --> 01:33:16,400
Speaker 4: come and do the push up contest and he's like

2373
01:33:16,400 --> 01:33:18,360
Speaker 4: all right, fine, takes your shirt off, and you're like

2374
01:33:18,439 --> 01:33:19,439
Speaker 4: Jesus Christ.

2375
01:33:20,120 --> 01:33:22,559
Speaker 1: He walks up and just muscles out like one hundred

2376
01:33:22,560 --> 01:33:22,960
Speaker 1: of those things.

2377
01:33:23,000 --> 01:33:25,760
Speaker 4: No problem do big buff guys are dropping out like

2378
01:33:25,800 --> 01:33:26,400
Speaker 4: thirty five.

2379
01:33:26,960 --> 01:33:29,040
Speaker 1: And he's a buff old guy. I think that might

2380
01:33:29,080 --> 01:33:30,760
Speaker 1: be him. That might be him.

2381
01:33:30,960 --> 01:33:32,840
Speaker 5: Look, that's the cutting the that's the cut in the

2382
01:33:32,840 --> 01:33:34,360
Speaker 5: hole right behind it, and.

2383
01:33:34,439 --> 01:33:37,639
Speaker 4: It sits right there, you know, like that little famous

2384
01:33:37,680 --> 01:33:39,679
Speaker 4: little look of cobble where they have those like rocks

2385
01:33:39,680 --> 01:33:41,040
Speaker 4: as you're kind of going out and have that.

2386
01:33:40,960 --> 01:33:43,520
Speaker 1: Little yeah, well there's a clove.

2387
01:33:44,360 --> 01:33:47,160
Speaker 4: There's beautiful like big rocks that kind of stick out

2388
01:33:47,160 --> 01:33:48,840
Speaker 4: of the water as you're like driving your boat to

2389
01:33:48,880 --> 01:33:52,320
Speaker 4: go with marlin fishing or fishing or whatever, and right

2390
01:33:52,360 --> 01:33:54,240
Speaker 4: there right next to the harbor's mango deck.

2391
01:33:54,520 --> 01:33:55,759
Speaker 1: And it's fucking unreal.

2392
01:33:55,880 --> 01:33:57,840
Speaker 5: Let me give you one more like O line deal

2393
01:33:59,479 --> 01:34:01,960
Speaker 5: and and maybe some of the listeners can apply this one.

2394
01:34:02,200 --> 01:34:05,400
Speaker 5: So we would host all holidays at our house up

2395
01:34:05,439 --> 01:34:08,479
Speaker 5: in Buffalo. So we created this deal for Thanksgiving. And

2396
01:34:08,479 --> 01:34:10,200
Speaker 5: this is like when you talk about catching craft for

2397
01:34:10,240 --> 01:34:12,280
Speaker 5: the podcast. This is the thing that I would catch

2398
01:34:12,280 --> 01:34:14,720
Speaker 5: the most crap on for social media every year if

2399
01:34:14,720 --> 01:34:16,559
Speaker 5: like we played bad on Sunday, Like I would catch

2400
01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:18,360
Speaker 5: a ton of heat for this. So we created this

2401
01:34:18,439 --> 01:34:20,599
Speaker 5: rule that when anyone could come to the house, everyone

2402
01:34:20,600 --> 01:34:22,280
Speaker 5: could do it, but you have to weigh in and

2403
01:34:22,320 --> 01:34:24,479
Speaker 5: weigh out, and then we have this like overall champion

2404
01:34:24,520 --> 01:34:26,320
Speaker 5: who put on the most weight throughout the day. Well

2405
01:34:26,360 --> 01:34:28,040
Speaker 5: then we got like real competitive with it, and you

2406
01:34:28,040 --> 01:34:29,960
Speaker 5: put some money on the line and all that. Where

2407
01:34:29,960 --> 01:34:32,320
Speaker 5: like I wouldn't even drink water at practice that day

2408
01:34:32,640 --> 01:34:34,200
Speaker 5: and I get in the sawn us then you weigh

2409
01:34:34,240 --> 01:34:36,120
Speaker 5: in like super light when you get home. Well then

2410
01:34:36,160 --> 01:34:38,800
Speaker 5: you're like rehydrate. Well, there's seven pounds right there, eight

2411
01:34:38,840 --> 01:34:42,320
Speaker 5: pounds right there, and then you know, you eat and whatever.

2412
01:34:42,439 --> 01:34:45,719
Speaker 5: So then we started like posting the rankings online. USA

2413
01:34:45,760 --> 01:34:49,760
Speaker 5: Today ran with it, and so these weight gain competitions

2414
01:34:49,800 --> 01:34:52,640
Speaker 5: on Thanksgiving became a pretty big deal in the woodhousehold.

2415
01:34:52,680 --> 01:34:55,080
Speaker 5: Like and then you start winning some pretty decent cash.

2416
01:34:55,120 --> 01:34:57,760
Speaker 5: It's like okay, like a grand or something. You know,

2417
01:34:57,840 --> 01:35:00,320
Speaker 5: like nothing crazy, but like to a young enough to

2418
01:35:00,320 --> 01:35:02,559
Speaker 5: put effort into a young dude on practice squad like.

2419
01:35:03,280 --> 01:35:06,679
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, no doubt.

2420
01:35:06,800 --> 01:35:09,439
Speaker 4: Richie sat in front of the in front of the

2421
01:35:09,439 --> 01:35:11,360
Speaker 4: fridge one year and just was chugging wait till he

2422
01:35:11,600 --> 01:35:12,680
Speaker 4: or drugging water till he.

2423
01:35:12,760 --> 01:35:14,559
Speaker 1: Gained enough weight to win it, and we so then

2424
01:35:14,600 --> 01:35:15,200
Speaker 1: we had.

2425
01:35:15,040 --> 01:35:17,120
Speaker 5: To put like some gentleman's rolls about it, like dude,

2426
01:35:17,120 --> 01:35:19,360
Speaker 5: you can't just like sit in front of there and

2427
01:35:19,439 --> 01:35:20,720
Speaker 5: drink water at the end of the night.

2428
01:35:20,760 --> 01:35:22,920
Speaker 1: And Richie's mom was going, I'm like, Richie, you're gonna puke.

2429
01:35:23,000 --> 01:35:25,559
Speaker 1: You're disgusting. Yeah, Jersey girl.

2430
01:35:26,200 --> 01:35:30,040
Speaker 4: Where So, when Richie left Buffalo, he obviously went through

2431
01:35:30,080 --> 01:35:32,280
Speaker 4: a lot of stuff. Yep, where where were you in

2432
01:35:32,320 --> 01:35:36,000
Speaker 4: his life at that point? Trying to manage all of it? Yeah, honestly,

2433
01:35:36,040 --> 01:35:38,679
Speaker 4: and I and and honestly, you know, his dad passed

2434
01:35:39,479 --> 01:35:42,120
Speaker 4: mocked her in the middle of it. Richie, Richie struggled

2435
01:35:42,160 --> 01:35:44,080
Speaker 4: initially with my career ending more than I did.

2436
01:35:44,439 --> 01:35:44,839
Speaker 1: Really.

2437
01:35:44,920 --> 01:35:47,640
Speaker 5: You know, he's so emotional and he's so like like

2438
01:35:47,680 --> 01:35:50,040
Speaker 5: if you're close to Richie, like if you're in his

2439
01:35:50,080 --> 01:35:53,040
Speaker 5: inner circle, like he loves you, like you know, Richie

2440
01:35:53,040 --> 01:35:55,320
Speaker 5: doesn't have a wife and kids, so like, well, my

2441
01:35:55,400 --> 01:35:58,120
Speaker 5: career ended, like he was hurt, hurt.

2442
01:35:57,960 --> 01:36:00,000
Speaker 1: And then his dad got sick and passed.

2443
01:36:00,200 --> 01:36:03,320
Speaker 5: Then you know, Richie has come out that you know,

2444
01:36:03,720 --> 01:36:06,080
Speaker 5: he has mental health issues, Like that's it's and it's

2445
01:36:06,080 --> 01:36:08,439
Speaker 5: okay to talk about nowadays, which is great because that

2446
01:36:08,560 --> 01:36:10,800
Speaker 5: it needs to be talked about. And Jay Glazer's wing

2447
01:36:10,840 --> 01:36:12,679
Speaker 5: a bunch of good work in that community right now too.

2448
01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:17,040
Speaker 5: But anyway, so all that compounded on him, and he,

2449
01:36:17,840 --> 01:36:20,080
Speaker 5: you know, put himself in the media again doing some

2450
01:36:20,240 --> 01:36:22,439
Speaker 5: great stuff and all that. But then the Raiders took

2451
01:36:22,439 --> 01:36:24,960
Speaker 5: a shot on it, took a shot on him, and

2452
01:36:25,040 --> 01:36:27,360
Speaker 5: it paid off and he's been a model citizen out

2453
01:36:27,360 --> 01:36:31,519
Speaker 5: there again. But I believe Mike Mayock their GM at

2454
01:36:31,560 --> 01:36:33,759
Speaker 5: the time when they signed him, his wife like works

2455
01:36:33,760 --> 01:36:36,400
Speaker 5: in that space. Oh really, it was like like it

2456
01:36:37,040 --> 01:36:38,960
Speaker 5: was an advocate for Richie, which was really cool.

2457
01:36:39,280 --> 01:36:41,840
Speaker 4: Richie was was one of the guys that I met

2458
01:36:41,880 --> 01:36:45,080
Speaker 4: my wife when we got engaged in five weeks, married

2459
01:36:45,120 --> 01:36:47,280
Speaker 4: in three months, good for you. And he was one

2460
01:36:47,320 --> 01:36:49,320
Speaker 4: of those guys during that process where I'm kind of

2461
01:36:49,360 --> 01:36:51,120
Speaker 4: so worried about what other people are gonna think, what's

2462
01:36:51,120 --> 01:36:53,519
Speaker 4: gonna happen, where he was like he kind of sat

2463
01:36:53,560 --> 01:36:54,920
Speaker 4: me down, had the are you sure about this?

2464
01:36:54,960 --> 01:36:55,160
Speaker 1: Talk?

2465
01:36:55,160 --> 01:36:56,920
Speaker 4: And once I kind of gave him the reasons why

2466
01:36:56,920 --> 01:36:59,720
Speaker 4: I'm sure. He was like the number one supporter, like

2467
01:36:59,760 --> 01:37:02,960
Speaker 4: he he and Taylor were great friends. We all went

2468
01:37:02,960 --> 01:37:06,080
Speaker 4: to Vegas together for the McGregor Diaz fight. Like truly

2469
01:37:06,120 --> 01:37:07,000
Speaker 4: an older brother to me.

2470
01:37:07,080 --> 01:37:09,000
Speaker 1: He he was, he was. I miss him all the time.

2471
01:37:09,320 --> 01:37:11,800
Speaker 4: You know, our relationship isn't what it was because of

2472
01:37:11,880 --> 01:37:13,880
Speaker 4: a lot of things during that time, which is which

2473
01:37:13,920 --> 01:37:16,280
Speaker 4: is tough, especially having two little kids and you know,

2474
01:37:16,760 --> 01:37:19,160
Speaker 4: all that stuff he was dealing with. But I fucking

2475
01:37:19,280 --> 01:37:21,479
Speaker 4: love that guy and I miss him all the time.

2476
01:37:21,600 --> 01:37:23,680
Speaker 5: So so many people know that me and rich are

2477
01:37:23,720 --> 01:37:27,000
Speaker 5: so close that when all that stuff started happening to Richie, well,

2478
01:37:27,400 --> 01:37:29,479
Speaker 5: I'm dealing with my own career ending, and now I'm

2479
01:37:29,520 --> 01:37:31,760
Speaker 5: just getting peppered with calls and text I'm talking to

2480
01:37:31,760 --> 01:37:32,639
Speaker 5: his mom every day and.

2481
01:37:32,560 --> 01:37:34,400
Speaker 1: All that, and his boy in Utah.

2482
01:37:34,479 --> 01:37:37,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, so I'm like talking to all these people and

2483
01:37:37,000 --> 01:37:40,439
Speaker 5: uh and and so it ends it ended up being

2484
01:37:40,479 --> 01:37:42,640
Speaker 5: a lot. But it's your brother, you know, Like I

2485
01:37:42,680 --> 01:37:46,160
Speaker 5: would do anything for that dude, absolutely anything. So it's like, dude,

2486
01:37:46,200 --> 01:37:48,680
Speaker 5: if it's phone calls, if it's whatever, like I'll do

2487
01:37:48,720 --> 01:37:49,519
Speaker 5: anything for him, you know.

2488
01:37:49,960 --> 01:37:51,840
Speaker 4: You know, So he's happy, and I know that I

2489
01:37:51,840 --> 01:37:53,760
Speaker 4: don't know what he's gonna do with the rest of

2490
01:37:53,800 --> 01:37:54,120
Speaker 4: his career.

2491
01:37:54,160 --> 01:37:56,120
Speaker 1: He didn't. He didn't play very much last year the

2492
01:37:56,120 --> 01:37:58,519
Speaker 1: Calf and yeah, like tourist calf. So he was out.

2493
01:37:58,760 --> 01:38:02,240
Speaker 1: He was out year, and I think I think he's done.

2494
01:38:02,439 --> 01:38:03,040
Speaker 1: I'm not sure.

2495
01:38:03,120 --> 01:38:05,360
Speaker 4: It's not my job to say what his career is

2496
01:38:05,400 --> 01:38:07,640
Speaker 4: at this point, but like, if he is finished, you

2497
01:38:07,720 --> 01:38:10,320
Speaker 4: just hope that he puts enough structure in his life

2498
01:38:10,320 --> 01:38:13,240
Speaker 4: to kind of like be happy and comfortable where he's at.

2499
01:38:13,439 --> 01:38:15,559
Speaker 4: He's made a lot of money and he's done his thing,

2500
01:38:15,600 --> 01:38:18,640
Speaker 4: and you know, he's single, no kids, like he's he

2501
01:38:18,680 --> 01:38:20,120
Speaker 4: has a great life in Arizona. I just hope he

2502
01:38:20,200 --> 01:38:21,800
Speaker 4: kind of keeps up with what he's been doing last

2503
01:38:21,840 --> 01:38:22,559
Speaker 4: couple of years.

2504
01:38:22,479 --> 01:38:24,160
Speaker 5: No doubt about it. I'm meeting him down in May

2505
01:38:24,360 --> 01:38:27,439
Speaker 5: play some golf down in Jupiter. Yeah, so I'll get

2506
01:38:27,439 --> 01:38:28,720
Speaker 5: to catch up with him. I haven't seen him in

2507
01:38:28,720 --> 01:38:29,360
Speaker 5: person forever.

2508
01:38:29,600 --> 01:38:29,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2509
01:38:29,800 --> 01:38:31,519
Speaker 2: I saw him the last game of the year, the

2510
01:38:31,560 --> 01:38:33,479
Speaker 2: Charges game. He came through and we were trying to

2511
01:38:33,520 --> 01:38:35,640
Speaker 2: get into the playoffs, and he was he seemed like

2512
01:38:35,680 --> 01:38:36,879
Speaker 2: he was in a great headspace.

2513
01:38:37,080 --> 01:38:39,679
Speaker 1: Monster bear hug. Yeah. I was a little nervous because.

2514
01:38:39,560 --> 01:38:43,000
Speaker 4: You know, yeah, we had a will and I just

2515
01:38:43,160 --> 01:38:45,439
Speaker 4: met when So when Taylor and I got married. We

2516
01:38:45,439 --> 01:38:47,200
Speaker 4: got married just the two of us on four twenty

2517
01:38:47,240 --> 01:38:50,599
Speaker 4: because we thought it was hilarious. And then fast forward

2518
01:38:50,680 --> 01:38:53,240
Speaker 4: like four months later, Talor gets pregnant and so we

2519
01:38:53,240 --> 01:38:54,960
Speaker 4: were gonna get we were going to get married like

2520
01:38:55,000 --> 01:38:56,960
Speaker 4: that summer, but ended up like, hey, well just or

2521
01:38:57,000 --> 01:38:58,080
Speaker 4: the next summer, but we.

2522
01:38:58,000 --> 01:39:00,160
Speaker 1: Had to wait. My daughter was born two days before.

2523
01:39:00,160 --> 01:39:02,040
Speaker 4: We were like thought about getting married in front of everybody,

2524
01:39:02,200 --> 01:39:04,920
Speaker 4: so you know, people are more comfortable with it, and

2525
01:39:04,960 --> 01:39:07,920
Speaker 4: that took a little longer, and Will was Will and

2526
01:39:07,960 --> 01:39:10,040
Speaker 4: I met like in a short amount of time and

2527
01:39:10,120 --> 01:39:12,439
Speaker 4: ended up coming to the wedding and we there was

2528
01:39:12,560 --> 01:39:14,439
Speaker 4: that's when Richie was Taylor proposed to me in five

2529
01:39:14,479 --> 01:39:16,400
Speaker 4: weeks two. Yeah, it was very fast. It was a

2530
01:39:16,479 --> 01:39:19,320
Speaker 4: very fast relationship for us. But that's when a lot

2531
01:39:19,360 --> 01:39:21,000
Speaker 4: of Richie stuff was really at the fort. He was

2532
01:39:21,040 --> 01:39:22,840
Speaker 4: going to be a groomsman of my wedding, and it

2533
01:39:23,040 --> 01:39:25,840
Speaker 4: just where he was at and like how it turned out,

2534
01:39:25,840 --> 01:39:28,200
Speaker 4: it wasn't able to happen, but he had quite the

2535
01:39:28,240 --> 01:39:30,559
Speaker 4: experience of being with Richie Good good.

2536
01:39:30,439 --> 01:39:32,519
Speaker 2: First experience with Richie and cognit you know, all the

2537
01:39:32,520 --> 01:39:34,880
Speaker 2: stories because he was a Nebraska guy right who got

2538
01:39:34,960 --> 01:39:37,160
Speaker 2: kicked out and then went to Oregon. Uh so I've

2539
01:39:37,200 --> 01:39:39,240
Speaker 2: heard stories about Richie, about this dude, and then you

2540
01:39:39,320 --> 01:39:42,000
Speaker 2: see this stuff in Miami and I felt his fucking

2541
01:39:42,040 --> 01:39:43,599
Speaker 2: hands when we played at Buffalo.

2542
01:39:44,000 --> 01:39:45,599
Speaker 1: I want to say. I bantered with him a little

2543
01:39:45,600 --> 01:39:46,400
Speaker 1: bit about it.

2544
01:39:46,520 --> 01:39:49,080
Speaker 2: And you know, we had an exchange, and you know,

2545
01:39:49,120 --> 01:39:51,519
Speaker 2: I was a little nervous being around the guy. And

2546
01:39:51,520 --> 01:39:53,760
Speaker 2: then he was like, oh, we're brothers because Nebraska, and

2547
01:39:53,800 --> 01:39:55,040
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, thank god.

2548
01:39:55,040 --> 01:39:57,639
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, yeah, ground here.

2549
01:39:57,720 --> 01:40:00,080
Speaker 4: From the get go, him and I were like the

2550
01:40:00,120 --> 01:40:02,960
Speaker 4: minute we made So we played I think twenty fifteen,

2551
01:40:03,040 --> 01:40:04,800
Speaker 4: we played a week It was week four. We played

2552
01:40:04,800 --> 01:40:07,599
Speaker 4: the Bills and gay By Kurt was there, you know, Gabe,

2553
01:40:07,960 --> 01:40:09,800
Speaker 4: and he's like, hey, you got to meet this guy, Richie.

2554
01:40:09,880 --> 01:40:11,360
Speaker 1: Dude, like you guys would be best friends.

2555
01:40:11,439 --> 01:40:13,000
Speaker 4: We all went at dinner before the game and then

2556
01:40:13,040 --> 01:40:15,760
Speaker 4: we worked out that summer together. But even before that,

2557
01:40:15,840 --> 01:40:19,280
Speaker 4: in college, my my buddy Jordan Kovacs, he was a safety,

2558
01:40:19,600 --> 01:40:21,639
Speaker 4: white boy, try hard guy, walked on, ends up being

2559
01:40:21,640 --> 01:40:24,640
Speaker 4: a captain killing it, gets drafted to Miami Dolphins and

2560
01:40:24,680 --> 01:40:26,599
Speaker 4: he comes in town during his bie week and he's

2561
01:40:26,600 --> 01:40:29,280
Speaker 4: like dude, there's this guy there. I swear to god,

2562
01:40:29,320 --> 01:40:31,040
Speaker 4: you guys would be best friends, like brothers. His name

2563
01:40:31,080 --> 01:40:34,040
Speaker 4: is Richie Incognito. I'm like, fuck, yeah, dude, whatever, don't

2564
01:40:34,040 --> 01:40:35,880
Speaker 4: think much of it. Like a week later, the Jonathan

2565
01:40:35,920 --> 01:40:40,560
Speaker 4: Martin stuff come out, I'm like, oh, oh, that's what

2566
01:40:40,640 --> 01:40:44,960
Speaker 4: you think about me? Yeah, okay, I might need to

2567
01:40:45,000 --> 01:40:47,000
Speaker 4: check myself a little bit. Yeah, no doubt man, it

2568
01:40:47,040 --> 01:40:50,160
Speaker 4: was wild times then too. I really hope he gets

2569
01:40:50,200 --> 01:40:51,840
Speaker 4: an opportunity to tell his entire story.

2570
01:40:51,920 --> 01:40:52,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2571
01:40:52,200 --> 01:40:54,360
Speaker 4: I think he will, and we have an incredible platform

2572
01:40:54,439 --> 01:40:54,720
Speaker 4: to do.

2573
01:40:54,640 --> 01:40:56,040
Speaker 1: That on too. Yeah, I mean I would.

2574
01:40:56,160 --> 01:40:57,680
Speaker 4: I would love to have him on. I think I

2575
01:40:57,720 --> 01:40:59,760
Speaker 4: think it'd be very cool to heart over that.

2576
01:41:00,040 --> 01:41:00,639
Speaker 1: And I'm just kidding.

2577
01:41:00,720 --> 01:41:04,880
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, we'll do a joint one and then release.

2578
01:41:04,560 --> 01:41:06,519
Speaker 1: Its one with the boys. Then can both be on.

2579
01:41:06,640 --> 01:41:10,519
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, perfect, perfect, Yeah that sounds great. No, but

2580
01:41:10,640 --> 01:41:14,920
Speaker 5: like there were times in Buffalo so like Richie when

2581
01:41:14,960 --> 01:41:17,240
Speaker 5: he's in his great headspace and all that, like he

2582
01:41:17,400 --> 01:41:20,920
Speaker 5: still specializes in cross the line humor like period, like

2583
01:41:21,000 --> 01:41:22,880
Speaker 5: that's he's hysterical to be around.

2584
01:41:23,000 --> 01:41:26,120
Speaker 4: Mouth hugs, He's fucking hilarious. Gosh.

2585
01:41:26,760 --> 01:41:28,600
Speaker 5: You know that was back when the media could come

2586
01:41:28,640 --> 01:41:31,439
Speaker 5: into the locker room all the time, and I'd be like, Richie,

2587
01:41:31,880 --> 01:41:35,000
Speaker 5: like someone's going to report something you said and it's

2588
01:41:35,040 --> 01:41:36,519
Speaker 5: gonna get taken way out of context.

2589
01:41:36,560 --> 01:41:38,720
Speaker 4: And he'd be like, yeah. I'd be like good, right,

2590
01:41:38,800 --> 01:41:41,880
Speaker 4: what would I say? Good Richie? Good Richie. He'd be like,

2591
01:41:41,960 --> 01:41:43,880
Speaker 4: I got you, I got you. Yeah, he'd be like

2592
01:41:43,920 --> 01:41:44,320
Speaker 4: he'd be like.

2593
01:41:44,760 --> 01:41:50,040
Speaker 5: Real men, yeah, the best, but he would like be

2594
01:41:50,120 --> 01:41:53,439
Speaker 5: yelling crap across the locker room, like making fun of

2595
01:41:53,920 --> 01:41:56,240
Speaker 5: Zay Jones was like who that one of our rookies

2596
01:41:56,280 --> 01:41:56,599
Speaker 5: at the time.

2597
01:41:56,600 --> 01:41:57,840
Speaker 1: He was always picking on to day.

2598
01:41:58,840 --> 01:42:01,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I'm like, people don't know that you guys

2599
01:42:01,960 --> 01:42:04,559
Speaker 5: are friends, right, Like people don't know that you actually

2600
01:42:04,600 --> 01:42:07,800
Speaker 5: like him, and they're gonna say something again like you've

2601
01:42:07,840 --> 01:42:08,519
Speaker 5: got to chill.

2602
01:42:09,040 --> 01:42:10,880
Speaker 1: Buffalo was cool enough never to do it, though.

2603
01:42:11,479 --> 01:42:14,360
Speaker 4: It's cool, dude. Everything you're saying is the story With

2604
01:42:14,439 --> 01:42:16,360
Speaker 4: Jonathan Martin. I just I really want him to be

2605
01:42:16,400 --> 01:42:18,720
Speaker 4: able to tell his piece. You really want that to

2606
01:42:18,760 --> 01:42:21,400
Speaker 4: be able to happen. Great man, he'd be outstanding.

2607
01:42:21,520 --> 01:42:23,519
Speaker 2: I think it would be a very interesting, too dynamic

2608
01:42:23,640 --> 01:42:26,439
Speaker 2: if obviously we were joking about it, but if we

2609
01:42:26,439 --> 01:42:28,479
Speaker 2: were all sitting together kind of just talking like we've

2610
01:42:28,479 --> 01:42:30,519
Speaker 2: all you met him in a different part, you met

2611
01:42:30,600 --> 01:42:32,400
Speaker 2: him in a different part. I kind of met him

2612
01:42:32,400 --> 01:42:35,240
Speaker 2: in a different part. Like if you're just talking through everything,

2613
01:42:35,280 --> 01:42:37,040
Speaker 2: I think it'd be really fascinating.

2614
01:42:37,200 --> 01:42:38,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt about him.

2615
01:42:38,479 --> 01:42:41,160
Speaker 4: It'd be outstanding about him and Fitzpatrick both draft in

2616
01:42:41,200 --> 01:42:45,360
Speaker 4: the same year to Saint Louis, and that was you know,

2617
01:42:45,800 --> 01:42:47,519
Speaker 4: last year could have been both their last year's.

2618
01:42:48,120 --> 01:42:50,439
Speaker 1: They're what thirty eight and thirty nine years older? Yeah,

2619
01:42:50,479 --> 01:42:51,160
Speaker 1: they're old boys.

2620
01:42:51,240 --> 01:42:53,759
Speaker 5: Like that's wild that both of them, Like the Rams

2621
01:42:53,800 --> 01:42:56,080
Speaker 5: stunk for so long, but like those dudes end up

2622
01:42:56,080 --> 01:42:57,320
Speaker 5: playing sixteen seventeen years.

2623
01:42:57,360 --> 01:42:57,760
Speaker 1: That's why.

2624
01:42:58,000 --> 01:42:59,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, what I wanted to ask about too, when you

2625
01:42:59,680 --> 01:43:01,760
Speaker 2: were talking about the Fitzpatrick and he signed the five

2626
01:43:01,840 --> 01:43:04,320
Speaker 2: year deal and then he played through broken ribs and

2627
01:43:04,360 --> 01:43:07,479
Speaker 2: stuff like that. Is that something that you know him

2628
01:43:07,479 --> 01:43:09,120
Speaker 2: well and you see it from the outside looking in

2629
01:43:09,160 --> 01:43:11,320
Speaker 2: when you see whe of your boys go, you're like, fuck, man, like,

2630
01:43:11,560 --> 01:43:13,840
Speaker 2: why don't why doesn't the organization see that he was

2631
01:43:13,880 --> 01:43:18,240
Speaker 2: honorable enough to like play with broken ribs? Right, It's uh,

2632
01:43:18,360 --> 01:43:20,240
Speaker 2: it wasn't one of those things when he gets when

2633
01:43:20,280 --> 01:43:23,439
Speaker 2: he gets cut or released or whatever that he probably

2634
01:43:23,479 --> 01:43:24,240
Speaker 2: looks back on him back.

2635
01:43:24,280 --> 01:43:25,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, you just shouldn't play hurt.

2636
01:43:26,360 --> 01:43:28,720
Speaker 5: Maybe, But we talked about early on what everyone loves

2637
01:43:28,760 --> 01:43:30,760
Speaker 5: Fitzpatrick so much. He's got no ego, Like he would

2638
01:43:30,800 --> 01:43:32,799
Speaker 5: be like, no, I'd lay on my line from my teammates.

2639
01:43:32,840 --> 01:43:34,320
Speaker 5: I could go out there and play. But like he

2640
01:43:34,320 --> 01:43:36,360
Speaker 5: would scramble on a play and come back in the

2641
01:43:36,439 --> 01:43:37,800
Speaker 5: huddle and not even be able to call the play

2642
01:43:37,800 --> 01:43:40,559
Speaker 5: call because like he was hurting so bad and he's like,

2643
01:43:40,920 --> 01:43:42,000
Speaker 5: can't even get through a throw.

2644
01:43:42,200 --> 01:43:44,720
Speaker 4: We started that year five and two. They give him

2645
01:43:44,720 --> 01:43:45,599
Speaker 4: a contract extension.

2646
01:43:45,600 --> 01:43:48,080
Speaker 5: Our two losses were at Cincinnati, last second field goal,

2647
01:43:48,120 --> 01:43:50,920
Speaker 5: they were playoff team, at the Giants, last second field goal.

2648
01:43:51,000 --> 01:43:53,200
Speaker 5: They win the Super Bowl. M hm, you know we're

2649
01:43:53,240 --> 01:43:57,000
Speaker 5: five and two, we're in it. I tear my cl

2650
01:43:57,080 --> 01:43:59,599
Speaker 5: Fred Jackson broke his fibula.

2651
01:44:00,080 --> 01:44:02,080
Speaker 1: He's a stun Yeah, no doubt about it.

2652
01:44:02,320 --> 01:44:04,920
Speaker 5: And then fitz breaks his ribs and we kind of

2653
01:44:05,000 --> 01:44:05,599
Speaker 5: dwindled off.

2654
01:44:05,640 --> 01:44:08,320
Speaker 1: It's crazy interesting just derail a team like that, especially when.

2655
01:44:08,160 --> 01:44:12,080
Speaker 5: Don't have well quarterbacks. Quarterbacks especially and then if you

2656
01:44:12,080 --> 01:44:14,479
Speaker 5: don't have depth. Yeah, like if you don't have depth,

2657
01:44:14,520 --> 01:44:15,519
Speaker 5: you're just done.

2658
01:44:15,600 --> 01:44:17,840
Speaker 4: One more thing about Fits is he always seemed like

2659
01:44:17,840 --> 01:44:19,719
Speaker 4: the dude when he'd come in his first four games

2660
01:44:19,760 --> 01:44:23,680
Speaker 4: where MVP type stuff, and then something would happen. I'm

2661
01:44:23,720 --> 01:44:25,920
Speaker 4: not sure what it was. He'd go from like throwing

2662
01:44:26,000 --> 01:44:29,040
Speaker 4: like crazy numbers to three picks yep, what do you

2663
01:44:29,080 --> 01:44:30,320
Speaker 4: what do you think I tested to that?

2664
01:44:32,280 --> 01:44:35,759
Speaker 5: So he would have these really hot stretches because Fits

2665
01:44:35,800 --> 01:44:39,320
Speaker 5: is so smart here prereads defenses and he's willing to

2666
01:44:39,320 --> 01:44:42,120
Speaker 5: give his guy like receivers love him because he'll be like,

2667
01:44:42,120 --> 01:44:44,120
Speaker 5: when you have this matchup, the ball is coming to you,

2668
01:44:44,479 --> 01:44:46,680
Speaker 5: don't let me throw a pick, but like I'm just

2669
01:44:46,720 --> 01:44:48,559
Speaker 5: gonna throw it up to you, like when you get

2670
01:44:48,560 --> 01:44:50,680
Speaker 5: this dude on you or you know, he's just he

2671
01:44:50,800 --> 01:44:53,960
Speaker 5: trusts a lot of guys. Well, you know, I'll throw

2672
01:44:54,000 --> 01:44:56,200
Speaker 5: a pick here, you know, So he can get really,

2673
01:44:56,280 --> 01:44:59,160
Speaker 5: really really hot because he's an absolute gun slinger. But

2674
01:44:59,320 --> 01:45:02,760
Speaker 5: like there were times like I was on rexs when

2675
01:45:02,800 --> 01:45:05,000
Speaker 5: Rex was with the Bills, He's like, I know that

2676
01:45:05,120 --> 01:45:08,720
Speaker 5: when Fits sees this blitz, like this is where his

2677
01:45:08,880 --> 01:45:10,880
Speaker 5: reads Like mentally as a quarterback, this is where you

2678
01:45:10,920 --> 01:45:12,679
Speaker 5: have to go. We're gonna trap him, and I don't

2679
01:45:12,760 --> 01:45:14,840
Speaker 5: remember if it exactly worked out. But it's like that's

2680
01:45:14,840 --> 01:45:17,759
Speaker 5: how defenses are looking at fits, like, yeah, he's so smart,

2681
01:45:17,800 --> 01:45:19,920
Speaker 5: he's going to see this, so can we get him

2682
01:45:19,920 --> 01:45:21,519
Speaker 5: to go over here? But he can just get so

2683
01:45:21,600 --> 01:45:23,880
Speaker 5: hot because he's given guys chances. He's throwing jump balls,

2684
01:45:24,120 --> 01:45:26,519
Speaker 5: and then he goes to uh Tampa and he's got

2685
01:45:26,520 --> 01:45:28,439
Speaker 5: Mike Evans and Shaun Jackson on the outside.

2686
01:45:28,439 --> 01:45:30,839
Speaker 1: That's when he showed up in the chains and all that. Hious.

2687
01:45:30,960 --> 01:45:32,720
Speaker 5: I'm watching that game. That's the year I was out

2688
01:45:32,720 --> 01:45:35,080
Speaker 5: of the league, and I'm watching that game from home.

2689
01:45:35,120 --> 01:45:37,120
Speaker 5: He texted me before he goes to press conference in

2690
01:45:37,200 --> 01:45:39,600
Speaker 5: that outfit, he goes, should I do it? I'm like, absolutely,

2691
01:45:41,680 --> 01:45:44,960
Speaker 5: your personality hit. Let's go into Shan Jackson standing over

2692
01:45:44,960 --> 01:45:46,479
Speaker 5: there with those shirt on, waiting for him to give

2693
01:45:46,520 --> 01:45:49,160
Speaker 5: him back his chains and his glasses and his shirt.

2694
01:45:48,920 --> 01:45:49,679
Speaker 1: And all that funny.

2695
01:45:49,680 --> 01:45:53,280
Speaker 5: But I think part of the reason is he's just

2696
01:45:53,320 --> 01:45:55,120
Speaker 5: giving guys chances out there. He's trying to throw a

2697
01:45:55,120 --> 01:45:57,679
Speaker 5: whole shots and cover two and then it can go quick.

2698
01:45:57,800 --> 01:46:01,000
Speaker 1: You know, those turnovers and just happened in her damn

2699
01:46:01,760 --> 01:46:02,519
Speaker 1: d he was a stuff.

2700
01:46:02,600 --> 01:46:04,719
Speaker 5: And then he also this is one of the things

2701
01:46:04,800 --> 01:46:06,720
Speaker 5: we've talked about this at LANK. We actually talked about

2702
01:46:06,720 --> 01:46:09,400
Speaker 5: this on my podcast last year because I would always like,

2703
01:46:09,439 --> 01:46:11,720
Speaker 5: we'd be down twenty one points and Fitz would then

2704
01:46:11,720 --> 01:46:13,519
Speaker 5: go throw another two picks trying to get us back

2705
01:46:13,560 --> 01:46:16,799
Speaker 5: in the game, and I'm like, bro, quit throwing interception

2706
01:46:16,840 --> 01:46:18,599
Speaker 5: because at the end of the year, they're gonna be like, well,

2707
01:46:18,600 --> 01:46:22,120
Speaker 5: Fits had eighteen touchdowns and twenty interceptions. I'm like, and

2708
01:46:22,160 --> 01:46:24,760
Speaker 5: Fitz is like, I don't give a crap, Like I

2709
01:46:24,800 --> 01:46:27,599
Speaker 5: don't care at all about that, really care what they say.

2710
01:46:27,640 --> 01:46:29,599
Speaker 5: I don't care about the picks, Like I'm trying to

2711
01:46:29,680 --> 01:46:31,720
Speaker 5: fight back and win this game. All I care about

2712
01:46:31,800 --> 01:46:33,840
Speaker 5: is what you guys think. And You're like, I respect that,

2713
01:46:34,000 --> 01:46:35,479
Speaker 5: but I still want to play with you next year.

2714
01:46:35,800 --> 01:46:38,479
Speaker 5: And like you, if you have four games where you

2715
01:46:38,479 --> 01:46:41,240
Speaker 5: threw three picks, they don't care if they were late

2716
01:46:41,240 --> 01:46:42,920
Speaker 5: in the third quarter, they're gonna use it against.

2717
01:46:42,680 --> 01:46:45,200
Speaker 1: You, right. How's that of him being released from and

2718
01:46:45,280 --> 01:46:46,559
Speaker 1: EJ was EJ Manual?

2719
01:46:46,760 --> 01:46:49,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, I love EJ. But like they painted, they put

2720
01:46:49,360 --> 01:46:51,320
Speaker 5: themselves in the corner. They released Fits and then they

2721
01:46:51,320 --> 01:46:53,800
Speaker 5: have to draft a quarterback. And that was the year

2722
01:46:55,400 --> 01:46:57,960
Speaker 5: you know EJ was sixteenth overall. That was like he

2723
01:46:58,040 --> 01:46:59,880
Speaker 5: was the only first round quarterback that year.

2724
01:47:00,160 --> 01:47:00,439
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2725
01:47:01,040 --> 01:47:04,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, toughier for QBS, tougher for wo word the who

2726
01:47:04,640 --> 01:47:07,960
Speaker 2: would you say your five best Buffalo bills you've played with?

2727
01:47:08,280 --> 01:47:10,720
Speaker 1: Is this tear talk? No, I'm just asking.

2728
01:47:10,720 --> 01:47:12,360
Speaker 4: Five best Buffalo bills I played with?

2729
01:47:12,640 --> 01:47:13,320
Speaker 1: Things about beer?

2730
01:47:14,120 --> 01:47:14,320
Speaker 3: Is it?

2731
01:47:14,439 --> 01:47:14,799
Speaker 1: Yeah?

2732
01:47:15,040 --> 01:47:19,280
Speaker 4: Kyle Williams one God, what a stud I know, ye,

2733
01:47:20,160 --> 01:47:21,120
Speaker 4: butcher knives he was in.

2734
01:47:21,320 --> 01:47:23,000
Speaker 1: If he was in a bigger market, he would be

2735
01:47:23,080 --> 01:47:26,240
Speaker 1: JJ Watt and all that. Yeah, you know, better than

2736
01:47:26,320 --> 01:47:30,560
Speaker 1: J Watt because he's awesome, Right, you said it. I agree.

2737
01:47:32,360 --> 01:47:35,479
Speaker 4: JJ's tweet today. I just read tweeted that always try

2738
01:47:35,520 --> 01:47:37,120
Speaker 4: to steal my ship. I can't believe he's been reading

2739
01:47:37,120 --> 01:47:37,720
Speaker 4: your tweets like this.

2740
01:47:37,880 --> 01:47:41,880
Speaker 1: That's crazy. J's on my ass. Yeah.

2741
01:47:42,040 --> 01:47:43,960
Speaker 5: JJ robbed me wrong one time because Fits had to

2742
01:47:44,040 --> 01:47:45,679
Speaker 5: leave a golf game out in Arizona to go film

2743
01:47:45,720 --> 01:47:49,320
Speaker 5: something with Zach Brown and JJ Watt, and they cut.

2744
01:47:49,120 --> 01:47:49,920
Speaker 1: Fits out of it.

2745
01:47:49,960 --> 01:47:52,040
Speaker 5: When we went to the concert that night, and I

2746
01:47:52,080 --> 01:47:55,559
Speaker 5: was like down front, really drunk, like if you guys

2747
01:47:55,640 --> 01:47:58,639
Speaker 5: like like JJ tolten ship.

2748
01:47:58,880 --> 01:48:01,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, So why did why would JJ rub your.

2749
01:48:01,320 --> 01:48:03,640
Speaker 5: On in that scenario. I thought he had something to

2750
01:48:03,640 --> 01:48:06,400
Speaker 5: do with it. He probably did, But JJ is just

2751
01:48:06,439 --> 01:48:08,680
Speaker 5: such a me guy. He's such a me guy. I

2752
01:48:08,760 --> 01:48:10,200
Speaker 5: might have heard about you guys talking about it on

2753
01:48:10,240 --> 01:48:12,360
Speaker 5: the podcast before, but like you could tell he's such

2754
01:48:12,400 --> 01:48:14,760
Speaker 5: a me guy because they can't even run blitzes in

2755
01:48:14,840 --> 01:48:17,080
Speaker 5: Houston because they got to let him do whatever he wants,

2756
01:48:17,080 --> 01:48:18,680
Speaker 5: and then all the linebackers got to play off of him,

2757
01:48:18,720 --> 01:48:20,920
Speaker 5: like like we would go in and gash Houston, like

2758
01:48:20,960 --> 01:48:22,760
Speaker 5: he might have three tackles for loss and we'd have

2759
01:48:22,760 --> 01:48:25,559
Speaker 5: one hundred and seventy rush yards because like he's blowing

2760
01:48:25,640 --> 01:48:26,320
Speaker 5: like three.

2761
01:48:26,160 --> 01:48:28,479
Speaker 1: Gaps at a time, and he hasn't played real defense. Nope.

2762
01:48:28,520 --> 01:48:30,400
Speaker 5: And if and if, like you can send a guy

2763
01:48:30,400 --> 01:48:32,240
Speaker 5: back to cut him, well, he'll jump way out of

2764
01:48:32,240 --> 01:48:32,599
Speaker 5: the way.

2765
01:48:33,000 --> 01:48:34,400
Speaker 1: And so now he's complete out the way.

2766
01:48:34,400 --> 01:48:36,840
Speaker 5: Now you're running inside zone and there's like literally just

2767
01:48:36,880 --> 01:48:39,040
Speaker 5: a gaping hole on the backside because he jumped out

2768
01:48:39,080 --> 01:48:39,400
Speaker 5: of the way.

2769
01:48:39,560 --> 01:48:42,320
Speaker 1: No, I don't I haven't liked him from the second

2770
01:48:42,479 --> 01:48:43,240
Speaker 1: Devil's Advocate.

2771
01:48:43,280 --> 01:48:46,679
Speaker 4: He's a phenomenal, phenomenal football player, player, great player.

2772
01:48:46,800 --> 01:48:50,559
Speaker 1: Don't like him bleeding and taking his helmet off for

2773
01:48:50,600 --> 01:48:51,479
Speaker 1: sure was that.

2774
01:48:52,560 --> 01:48:55,240
Speaker 4: I'll tell you who the real hero was of that

2775
01:48:55,479 --> 01:49:00,200
Speaker 4: Houston defense was Cushing. Yeah, the real hero stud he

2776
01:49:00,240 --> 01:49:01,560
Speaker 4: his fans man.

2777
01:49:01,479 --> 01:49:03,400
Speaker 2: Dude he had he did a pot with on Brian

2778
01:49:03,400 --> 01:49:04,560
Speaker 2: Peters's podcast.

2779
01:49:04,640 --> 01:49:07,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty badass, is it. Yeah, it's pretty cool.

2780
01:49:07,200 --> 01:49:08,599
Speaker 1: He's like one of those dudes. You're just like, hey,

2781
01:49:08,840 --> 01:49:10,639
Speaker 1: this is a fucking boy. You know what I'm saying.

2782
01:49:10,920 --> 01:49:14,280
Speaker 5: We uh he came on a visits Louisville, and uh,

2783
01:49:14,680 --> 01:49:15,920
Speaker 5: we got him. I don't I don't know that he

2784
01:49:16,000 --> 01:49:17,559
Speaker 5: drank a whole lot in high school, but he drank

2785
01:49:17,560 --> 01:49:19,680
Speaker 5: on his Louisville visit and he turned up.

2786
01:49:20,560 --> 01:49:20,920
Speaker 1: Oh love.

2787
01:49:20,960 --> 01:49:23,639
Speaker 2: That's in New Jersey cane and those dudes are fucking crazy. Yeah,

2788
01:49:23,800 --> 01:49:26,560
Speaker 2: he's a DeFranco boy. He's like a Joe DeFranco's like

2789
01:49:26,600 --> 01:49:29,120
Speaker 2: a trainer, a well known trainer out in the Northeast.

2790
01:49:31,280 --> 01:49:33,080
Speaker 5: He ran in that dude's face with that helmet on,

2791
01:49:33,280 --> 01:49:36,679
Speaker 5: fitted a photoshop of his face on Cushing's body.

2792
01:49:36,720 --> 01:49:40,280
Speaker 4: But it's like a perfect photoshop. Yeah, that's it's hilarious.

2793
01:49:40,320 --> 01:49:43,360
Speaker 4: Fishing fits really like that. That's hilarious.

2794
01:49:43,400 --> 01:49:46,720
Speaker 5: So Kyle Williams, Kyle Williams, I mean I played one

2795
01:49:46,760 --> 01:49:48,439
Speaker 5: year with t O He's a Hall of Famer.

2796
01:49:48,840 --> 01:49:53,360
Speaker 4: Shady was a stud, chased, smart dude. He didn't give

2797
01:49:53,360 --> 01:49:54,479
Speaker 4: a fuck about Pro Bowls or nothing.

2798
01:49:54,560 --> 01:49:54,720
Speaker 1: Huh.

2799
01:49:54,800 --> 01:49:56,200
Speaker 4: Richie was telling me that he made the Pro Bowl.

2800
01:49:56,200 --> 01:49:58,720
Speaker 4: He's like congrats. In the locker room, She'd be like, man,

2801
01:49:58,760 --> 01:49:59,760
Speaker 4: I'm give a fuck about that.

2802
01:50:00,840 --> 01:50:05,040
Speaker 5: He wants to win games and and he wants to

2803
01:50:05,040 --> 01:50:09,519
Speaker 5: show out on Sundays. Yeah, and like he's so smart

2804
01:50:09,680 --> 01:50:11,880
Speaker 5: it's unbelievable. Like he could sit there on his phone

2805
01:50:11,880 --> 01:50:14,400
Speaker 5: and meetings. He knows everything going on. He'll never mess

2806
01:50:14,400 --> 01:50:17,360
Speaker 5: something up. And one time, I like, I built a

2807
01:50:17,360 --> 01:50:18,920
Speaker 5: lot of trust with Shady when I did this, and

2808
01:50:18,960 --> 01:50:22,240
Speaker 5: we've stayed close buddies. But he, uh, he was on

2809
01:50:22,280 --> 01:50:24,120
Speaker 5: his phone one day. Well, one of the coaches said

2810
01:50:24,120 --> 01:50:26,439
Speaker 5: something to one of the running backs and he was like,

2811
01:50:26,560 --> 01:50:29,479
Speaker 5: well I thought we could, and like pointed over at

2812
01:50:29,479 --> 01:50:32,519
Speaker 5: Shady and I was like, shut your mouth, rookie, Like

2813
01:50:32,760 --> 01:50:34,560
Speaker 5: that dude's been in the league. That dude would be

2814
01:50:34,560 --> 01:50:38,200
Speaker 5: a Hall of Famer potentially, Like you've done nothing for us.

2815
01:50:38,360 --> 01:50:41,879
Speaker 1: I was like, I just went off on you. Oh yeah,

2816
01:50:41,920 --> 01:50:43,719
Speaker 1: that's crazy. Shit was on his phone on a meeting

2817
01:50:43,760 --> 01:50:47,280
Speaker 1: that's yeah, he was like that.

2818
01:50:47,520 --> 01:50:50,720
Speaker 2: It's always it was always incredible to him.

2819
01:50:52,120 --> 01:50:54,040
Speaker 1: Bless you man.

2820
01:50:54,080 --> 01:50:55,720
Speaker 5: It's hard to say because you know, he wins two

2821
01:50:55,720 --> 01:50:57,160
Speaker 5: Super Bowls at the end of his career, but he

2822
01:50:57,200 --> 01:50:59,639
Speaker 5: wasn't active for either of the Super Bowls. It'll be close,

2823
01:51:00,080 --> 01:51:03,120
Speaker 5: be a really close call. But Shay was an absolute stud.

2824
01:51:03,360 --> 01:51:05,120
Speaker 1: Was incredible. I could just carry the ball like that,

2825
01:51:05,280 --> 01:51:05,879
Speaker 1: never fumble.

2826
01:51:06,080 --> 01:51:08,360
Speaker 2: I know, he carried it like he was like you

2827
01:51:08,400 --> 01:51:10,080
Speaker 2: know how, you know how all the coaches are like, oh,

2828
01:51:10,120 --> 01:51:11,920
Speaker 2: he's a fumbler. Still they're showing tape. But if they

2829
01:51:11,920 --> 01:51:14,080
Speaker 2: haven't fumbled like Shady and they carry he's a fumbler.

2830
01:51:14,080 --> 01:51:15,559
Speaker 2: He just doesn't know it yet and he's just carrying

2831
01:51:15,560 --> 01:51:16,439
Speaker 2: it out to the side.

2832
01:51:16,360 --> 01:51:18,800
Speaker 4: That man never fumbled. He holds it like who was

2833
01:51:18,840 --> 01:51:21,520
Speaker 4: the dude in the longest yard Nelly. Yeah.

2834
01:51:23,160 --> 01:51:25,880
Speaker 5: The amount of fumbles per carry over the ten year

2835
01:51:25,920 --> 01:51:28,680
Speaker 5: stretch he played, that's that crazy crazy up to a

2836
01:51:28,680 --> 01:51:29,800
Speaker 5: certain amount of carries or whatever.

2837
01:51:29,920 --> 01:51:33,840
Speaker 1: But ball Leshaun McCoy.

2838
01:51:33,880 --> 01:51:37,240
Speaker 5: Fred Jackson, Fred Jackson might be Jackson. I mean Fred

2839
01:51:37,320 --> 01:51:39,040
Speaker 5: Jackson is one of my favorite teamates of all time.

2840
01:51:39,160 --> 01:51:41,840
Speaker 5: Just absolute stud.

2841
01:51:42,479 --> 01:51:42,759
Speaker 1: Shoot.

2842
01:51:42,800 --> 01:51:45,439
Speaker 5: Who would be the last one who do I played

2843
01:51:45,439 --> 01:51:47,640
Speaker 5: with towards the end like Tredavious White. He was a

2844
01:51:47,680 --> 01:51:50,560
Speaker 5: rookie my last year, absolute stud him.

2845
01:51:50,880 --> 01:51:53,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a monster leaving somebody out. Richie, I mean

2846
01:51:53,320 --> 01:51:56,280
Speaker 1: Richie really really good player. You know which he's on?

2847
01:51:56,320 --> 01:51:59,000
Speaker 1: Which he is? Play with the what's his name is it?

2848
01:51:59,080 --> 01:52:00,439
Speaker 1: Lee Smith? Smith?

2849
01:52:00,560 --> 01:52:03,679
Speaker 2: Loved that dude. You guys the stories about Lee Smith.

2850
01:52:03,840 --> 01:52:05,720
Speaker 2: We who doesn't any time I go to the locker room,

2851
01:52:05,760 --> 01:52:07,720
Speaker 2: they played with me. Lee Smith is guy I don't

2852
01:52:07,760 --> 01:52:08,400
Speaker 2: know even know who.

2853
01:52:09,800 --> 01:52:12,160
Speaker 1: Smiths? Just like old school throwback tight end.

2854
01:52:13,080 --> 01:52:16,760
Speaker 4: He's in Tennessee, right, Yeah, he's in Knoxville.

2855
01:52:16,840 --> 01:52:18,840
Speaker 1: I'm telling you I've heard he's got. He played last

2856
01:52:18,880 --> 01:52:20,880
Speaker 1: year for the Falcons. Here's how loved Lee is. Like.

2857
01:52:21,080 --> 01:52:23,320
Speaker 5: Last year was gonna be Lee's last game. So we

2858
01:52:23,439 --> 01:52:26,479
Speaker 5: do a dinner before the Falcons Bills game last year

2859
01:52:26,600 --> 01:52:29,400
Speaker 5: night before the game. It's like a private little deals

2860
01:52:29,400 --> 01:52:32,680
Speaker 5: this Italian spot up in Buffalo, Your Italian spot, my

2861
01:52:32,760 --> 01:52:35,280
Speaker 5: second Italian spot. I got you, not too loyal?

2862
01:52:35,800 --> 01:52:36,760
Speaker 1: How's the family doing?

2863
01:52:37,080 --> 01:52:41,800
Speaker 5: But but Arthur Smith shows up their GM Uh both

2864
01:52:41,800 --> 01:52:47,719
Speaker 5: starting quarterbacks, legendary head coach. Oh he's awesome. Uh, Kyle Pitts, Beasley, Knox.

2865
01:52:47,840 --> 01:52:51,880
Speaker 5: I mean literally it was like a Pro Bowl and

2866
01:52:51,960 --> 01:52:55,040
Speaker 5: coaching staff like meeting at this Italian spot the night

2867
01:52:55,080 --> 01:52:57,080
Speaker 5: before the game, all for Lee and it was just

2868
01:52:57,120 --> 01:52:59,880
Speaker 5: like the coolest environment, you know, like for me.

2869
01:53:00,800 --> 01:53:02,640
Speaker 1: I had one of my buddies with me from Louisville

2870
01:53:02,960 --> 01:53:03,320
Speaker 1: who was.

2871
01:53:03,240 --> 01:53:05,080
Speaker 5: In town for the game last year, and we left

2872
01:53:05,080 --> 01:53:06,360
Speaker 5: and I was like, man, that night was good for

2873
01:53:06,439 --> 01:53:08,360
Speaker 5: my soul, like just to be around like a bunch

2874
01:53:08,360 --> 01:53:10,960
Speaker 5: of dudes talking ball and like no one you know,

2875
01:53:11,080 --> 01:53:13,120
Speaker 5: like a bunch of dudes from both teams just talking

2876
01:53:13,160 --> 01:53:14,080
Speaker 5: ball night before the game.

2877
01:53:14,120 --> 01:53:15,880
Speaker 1: I was like, man, I missed that crap. But but

2878
01:53:15,960 --> 01:53:17,080
Speaker 1: Lee is an animal.

2879
01:53:17,120 --> 01:53:19,880
Speaker 5: But we we found out early on that like we're

2880
01:53:19,880 --> 01:53:21,880
Speaker 5: cut a little too much from the same cloth, Like

2881
01:53:21,880 --> 01:53:25,080
Speaker 5: we both have that like go Jean and we had

2882
01:53:25,120 --> 01:53:27,519
Speaker 5: one really late night together and the next day, this

2883
01:53:27,640 --> 01:53:28,240
Speaker 5: was during the spring.

2884
01:53:28,320 --> 01:53:31,040
Speaker 1: We're like, I don't think we can hang out that often, Bud.

2885
01:53:30,800 --> 01:53:33,599
Speaker 4: Like, yeah, we really, we're like super close still this day.

2886
01:53:34,720 --> 01:53:36,600
Speaker 5: But uh, I was like, man, we got to be

2887
01:53:36,680 --> 01:53:40,200
Speaker 5: really careful, like because we both have that. Like so

2888
01:53:41,160 --> 01:53:43,280
Speaker 5: I think I think both of I think everyone knows

2889
01:53:43,320 --> 01:53:46,000
Speaker 5: about this in both of our households, we get really drunk.

2890
01:53:46,000 --> 01:53:47,200
Speaker 1: One night, Lee spends the night in my house.

2891
01:53:47,200 --> 01:53:48,640
Speaker 5: I wake up in the morning I can't find my

2892
01:53:48,720 --> 01:53:50,880
Speaker 5: phone and like, I don't care how drunk I get like,

2893
01:53:50,880 --> 01:53:52,400
Speaker 5: I'm gonna plug my phone in next to the bed

2894
01:53:52,439 --> 01:53:54,400
Speaker 5: and go to sleep. Wake up, it's not there. I'm like,

2895
01:53:54,400 --> 01:53:56,040
Speaker 5: where the hell's my phone. I'm looking all over for it.

2896
01:53:56,080 --> 01:53:58,800
Speaker 5: I look under my bed and it's like in the

2897
01:53:58,840 --> 01:54:01,040
Speaker 5: middle of the front. Well, I have to like move

2898
01:54:01,080 --> 01:54:02,840
Speaker 5: the whole bedframe. It's not like you can just lift

2899
01:54:02,880 --> 01:54:05,479
Speaker 5: it up as soon as so it's dead as soon

2900
01:54:05,520 --> 01:54:07,120
Speaker 5: as I plug it in. My mom's calling. It's like

2901
01:54:07,200 --> 01:54:09,200
Speaker 5: nine thirty in the morning. I was like, what the

2902
01:54:09,240 --> 01:54:11,280
Speaker 5: hell is going on? I was calling. She goes, are

2903
01:54:11,280 --> 01:54:14,000
Speaker 5: you okay? And I go, yeah, why he goes Lee Smith?

2904
01:54:14,160 --> 01:54:17,000
Speaker 5: She goes Lee Smith called me at four o'clock in

2905
01:54:17,040 --> 01:54:20,040
Speaker 5: the morning to tell me that you guys got overserved,

2906
01:54:20,120 --> 01:54:23,599
Speaker 5: but everyone's okay, and oh my, my mom stays up

2907
01:54:23,640 --> 01:54:26,800
Speaker 5: all night just dialing me over and over and over.

2908
01:54:27,240 --> 01:54:29,960
Speaker 1: And he said he he has his.

2909
01:54:29,840 --> 01:54:32,640
Speaker 5: Wife saying in his phone as like Mama, he thought

2910
01:54:32,680 --> 01:54:33,560
Speaker 5: he was calling Leslie.

2911
01:54:33,600 --> 01:54:35,360
Speaker 4: I was like, well, why the hell would you call Leslie.

2912
01:54:35,600 --> 01:54:39,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, why would you do that? Oh my god? Yeah,

2913
01:54:40,440 --> 01:54:41,920
Speaker 1: Lisa is this guy? Wait?

2914
01:54:42,040 --> 01:54:44,720
Speaker 4: How long was his career? He just retired, but how

2915
01:54:44,760 --> 01:54:47,800
Speaker 4: long years or something of yours? Blocking tight end. Oh

2916
01:54:47,840 --> 01:54:49,400
Speaker 4: it's just a grinder, Yeah, just a grinder.

2917
01:54:49,440 --> 01:54:51,120
Speaker 1: But I hear just all time stories like around the

2918
01:54:51,120 --> 01:54:55,600
Speaker 1: building around yeah, groom, everybody walking, legend gyboy. We'll let

2919
01:54:55,640 --> 01:54:57,440
Speaker 1: him tell. We'll let him tell his tales. He can

2920
01:54:57,480 --> 01:54:58,879
Speaker 1: come on. Yeah, he's invited.

2921
01:54:58,960 --> 01:55:02,640
Speaker 2: Shall we do the tears talk? So we're gonna transition

2922
01:55:02,720 --> 01:55:05,160
Speaker 2: into a segment we called tier talk. We get a

2923
01:55:05,360 --> 01:55:08,400
Speaker 2: I think it's beers we talk. We're talking beers. We're

2924
01:55:08,400 --> 01:55:09,840
Speaker 2: gonna have all these beers in front of us, and

2925
01:55:09,840 --> 01:55:11,840
Speaker 2: we're gonna we're gonna rate them whether we want to

2926
01:55:11,840 --> 01:55:14,839
Speaker 2: put them in a tier one category, tier two, tier three.

2927
01:55:15,240 --> 01:55:16,600
Speaker 1: You don't have the best beer on, you don't have

2928
01:55:16,600 --> 01:55:19,520
Speaker 1: miller light on there? Oh wow yeah what.

2929
01:55:21,200 --> 01:55:24,160
Speaker 4: Oh it's just a it's a guideline. Now, okay, so

2930
01:55:24,160 --> 01:55:26,919
Speaker 4: we see the beer, so we know beers. I say, bluss,

2931
01:55:27,200 --> 01:55:30,200
Speaker 4: I'm a miller like a second blue light. But it's

2932
01:55:30,200 --> 01:55:33,320
Speaker 4: all good. Your your Miller light like a top tier

2933
01:55:33,600 --> 01:55:37,280
Speaker 4: Miller Light's like my favorite drinking light beer got you,

2934
01:55:37,480 --> 01:55:39,560
Speaker 4: But I'm not having one. If I'm like only having one,

2935
01:55:39,680 --> 01:55:41,080
Speaker 4: I'm having one. If we're having like.

2936
01:55:41,120 --> 01:55:46,120
Speaker 1: Ten, Yeah, I'm butt heavy all the way? Is my bro?

2937
01:55:47,160 --> 01:55:49,280
Speaker 1: Is that just as the logo or that's just like

2938
01:55:49,360 --> 01:55:52,480
Speaker 1: how you roll both? I guess. I mean they do

2939
01:55:52,520 --> 01:55:53,360
Speaker 1: a great job branding.

2940
01:55:53,360 --> 01:55:55,960
Speaker 2: They've obviously got me sold as a as a as

2941
01:55:55,960 --> 01:55:56,640
Speaker 2: an all in fan.

2942
01:55:56,720 --> 01:55:59,640
Speaker 1: But but heavy is like my favorite go to vacation beer.

2943
01:56:00,320 --> 01:56:01,960
Speaker 1: Corona Light. Yeah.

2944
01:56:02,080 --> 01:56:04,880
Speaker 2: See, I like sometimes it's just got that skunk, It's

2945
01:56:04,880 --> 01:56:06,320
Speaker 2: got that skunk pot.

2946
01:56:07,280 --> 01:56:10,040
Speaker 1: It's not a bad deal. What about you?

2947
01:56:10,520 --> 01:56:12,920
Speaker 4: Then that my number one tier one? Yeah, it's got

2948
01:56:12,920 --> 01:56:16,680
Speaker 4: to be bud Light. Uh, I'm sponsored.

2949
01:56:16,200 --> 01:56:17,160
Speaker 1: Baby for me.

2950
01:56:17,480 --> 01:56:20,120
Speaker 4: That's that's pretty low down the list for me. Really Like,

2951
01:56:20,240 --> 01:56:22,760
Speaker 4: I think bud Light gives me a headache. Delicious Hams

2952
01:56:22,800 --> 01:56:25,200
Speaker 4: is my Tier two a close tier too, But but

2953
01:56:25,400 --> 01:56:28,720
Speaker 4: Light takes the cake from me, takes the cake. Yeah,

2954
01:56:28,760 --> 01:56:31,280
Speaker 4: bud Light three. I think Souls number three for me.

2955
01:56:31,760 --> 01:56:35,000
Speaker 4: I love Soul. I like michelob Ultra.

2956
01:56:35,120 --> 01:56:38,240
Speaker 1: Dude. Maybe that's that might not be a popular opinion,

2957
01:56:38,280 --> 01:56:39,000
Speaker 1: but I like me.

2958
01:56:39,000 --> 01:56:39,160
Speaker 6: And that.

2959
01:56:41,440 --> 01:56:45,680
Speaker 5: You know, I'm at a place that's Anheuser Busch. I'm

2960
01:56:45,680 --> 01:56:49,120
Speaker 5: going Mike Ultra over bud Light. That's okay, all right,

2961
01:56:49,160 --> 01:56:49,680
Speaker 5: sorry about this.

2962
01:56:50,040 --> 01:56:52,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean one that's not on here that I

2963
01:56:52,920 --> 01:56:55,960
Speaker 1: love Blue Moon, Yeah with an orange slice.

2964
01:56:56,120 --> 01:57:04,000
Speaker 5: Yes, I like it. Yeah, I'm going so what so

2965
01:57:04,080 --> 01:57:07,400
Speaker 5: what your Tier one is one? Miller Tier two blue

2966
01:57:07,480 --> 01:57:13,200
Speaker 5: Light well bat blue uh? Tier three, I'm going Stella

2967
01:57:13,880 --> 01:57:16,080
Speaker 5: like for like having like one or two. Yeah, it

2968
01:57:16,120 --> 01:57:18,240
Speaker 5: pans out Miller High Life when I had those minis

2969
01:57:18,240 --> 01:57:20,760
Speaker 5: earlier today. Stella like I'm really giving away at the

2970
01:57:20,760 --> 01:57:24,440
Speaker 5: ariton down here, does it?

2971
01:57:24,520 --> 01:57:28,160
Speaker 1: Stella? Yep? Yeah?

2972
01:57:28,200 --> 01:57:35,240
Speaker 5: Four chrona light five Yinglinging is like a Winterer beer

2973
01:57:35,280 --> 01:57:38,040
Speaker 5: for me. It's like a winter beer, winter beer, like

2974
01:57:38,040 --> 01:57:41,120
Speaker 5: winter winter Golf, Winter Golf's beer, your go to drink.

2975
01:57:42,160 --> 01:57:45,120
Speaker 1: I like, I like crushes beers. Listen to him, I like,

2976
01:57:45,440 --> 01:57:46,120
Speaker 1: I like beer.

2977
01:57:46,440 --> 01:57:49,480
Speaker 5: We're tying one on if I but I'm not just

2978
01:57:49,520 --> 01:57:52,360
Speaker 5: having like one like if I'm doing that, you know

2979
01:57:52,400 --> 01:57:53,680
Speaker 5: in Kentucky it's like bourbon.

2980
01:57:53,960 --> 01:57:56,040
Speaker 1: But I've gotten into tequilas.

2981
01:57:56,480 --> 01:57:58,720
Speaker 5: I love to get the cleanest gets out of your

2982
01:57:58,720 --> 01:58:02,080
Speaker 5: system real quick, like clause azul is my favorites.

2983
01:58:02,160 --> 01:58:04,160
Speaker 1: Like I just bought a barrel of Yeah, is.

2984
01:58:04,160 --> 01:58:05,560
Speaker 4: That the one that dings at the top. It's a

2985
01:58:05,600 --> 01:58:07,400
Speaker 4: very nice but there's a lot of preservatives in it though.

2986
01:58:07,680 --> 01:58:11,120
Speaker 4: Really Yeah, that's what I was told in Cabo Wow. Yeah,

2987
01:58:11,240 --> 01:58:12,640
Speaker 4: one of the bartenders like, you can have this if

2988
01:58:12,680 --> 01:58:14,080
Speaker 4: you want. There's a lot of preserverves in this.

2989
01:58:14,160 --> 01:58:15,480
Speaker 1: What was he said? Nineteen forty two?

2990
01:58:15,480 --> 01:58:18,480
Speaker 4: He said, Tosa mikos. See I drink a lot of Yeah,

2991
01:58:19,360 --> 01:58:20,800
Speaker 4: like the best one to have apparently.

2992
01:58:20,960 --> 01:58:22,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was having last night. A lot of people

2993
01:58:22,680 --> 01:58:23,240
Speaker 1: do that. Have you had?

2994
01:58:24,280 --> 01:58:27,640
Speaker 4: We just had middle in on what's there's Instulidom their tequila.

2995
01:58:27,920 --> 01:58:31,080
Speaker 4: It's a really good tequila. They have three different kinds.

2996
01:58:31,400 --> 01:58:33,560
Speaker 4: And then Thomas Rhet has one too. I forget what

2997
01:58:33,600 --> 01:58:34,200
Speaker 4: it was called.

2998
01:58:35,440 --> 01:58:39,400
Speaker 5: George got one that everyone's like Lebron's got one that

2999
01:58:39,400 --> 01:58:40,000
Speaker 5: it's pretty good.

3000
01:58:40,040 --> 01:58:46,600
Speaker 1: Yeah tequila, Yeah, what's it called? You know? Almost man,

3001
01:58:46,640 --> 01:58:49,440
Speaker 1: I was there. What are your five tiers?

3002
01:58:50,440 --> 01:58:54,760
Speaker 4: My five tier would be bud Light Tier one, Tier

3003
01:58:54,760 --> 01:58:58,400
Speaker 4: two would be Hams Ham would be hams Light. Three

3004
01:58:59,880 --> 01:59:04,520
Speaker 4: is probably Soul for Corona, and then I do mess

3005
01:59:04,560 --> 01:59:06,160
Speaker 4: with the Sekis.

3006
01:59:05,560 --> 01:59:08,840
Speaker 1: But I like the Seki's amber is solid. See that's

3007
01:59:08,840 --> 01:59:11,240
Speaker 1: too dark. For me, I don't. I don't like that.

3008
01:59:12,240 --> 01:59:15,640
Speaker 4: I uh, the Sekis is solid, but I think I

3009
01:59:15,760 --> 01:59:17,840
Speaker 4: kind of like that blue Moon vibe.

3010
01:59:18,040 --> 01:59:21,920
Speaker 1: I like with the orange. But I'm not a huge

3011
01:59:21,920 --> 01:59:22,400
Speaker 1: beer guy.

3012
01:59:22,600 --> 01:59:25,120
Speaker 4: But I'm drinking tequila like I like ranch water, tequila

3013
01:59:25,200 --> 01:59:26,080
Speaker 4: water with lime juice.

3014
01:59:26,280 --> 01:59:28,840
Speaker 1: You are a big tequila Yeah, he's always a tequila guy.

3015
01:59:28,920 --> 01:59:30,800
Speaker 4: But one of my favorite things to drink for like,

3016
01:59:31,680 --> 01:59:33,360
Speaker 4: if I'm having like a cocktail or something like that.

3017
01:59:33,440 --> 01:59:37,160
Speaker 4: These things right here, This this whistle pig stuff is unreal.

3018
01:59:37,440 --> 01:59:39,400
Speaker 4: You put that over ice. It's really good.

3019
01:59:40,120 --> 01:59:40,320
Speaker 3: Is that?

3020
01:59:40,600 --> 01:59:48,040
Speaker 1: Where is that made? Mad Vermont? Okay, it's pretty No,

3021
01:59:48,280 --> 01:59:50,200
Speaker 1: it's it's it's really good. You chill that. You put

3022
01:59:50,200 --> 01:59:52,040
Speaker 1: that on on the rocks. It's really good.

3023
01:59:52,720 --> 01:59:56,400
Speaker 4: Person alcohol, it's good whiskey. It's a really good whiskey

3024
01:59:56,400 --> 02:00:03,560
Speaker 4: mixer drink. I'm going, uh but heavy, Oh really it's

3025
02:00:03,600 --> 02:00:04,160
Speaker 4: like that for you.

3026
02:00:05,480 --> 02:00:05,879
Speaker 1: Serious.

3027
02:00:06,040 --> 02:00:10,720
Speaker 2: My man's nostrils just had a fit. I'm gonna go

3028
02:00:10,800 --> 02:00:18,880
Speaker 2: butt heavy. Blue Moon, make a little Ultra cores Light?

3029
02:00:22,200 --> 02:00:27,400
Speaker 2: Say him again, Say him again? Yeah, but heavy? What

3030
02:00:30,000 --> 02:00:34,520
Speaker 2: Blue Moon? What make ultra? What Coors Light?

3031
02:00:34,640 --> 02:00:34,720
Speaker 6: What?

3032
02:00:36,160 --> 02:00:37,080
Speaker 1: Man? I don't know about this?

3033
02:00:38,200 --> 02:00:44,640
Speaker 2: Huh oh vacation.

3034
02:00:47,240 --> 02:00:48,200
Speaker 1: Tequila Sunrise.

3035
02:00:52,320 --> 02:00:58,640
Speaker 2: Then I'll say, uh, Natty Light man, Hey, that's bro

3036
02:00:59,520 --> 02:01:03,320
Speaker 2: Natty Light like it's it's hated on a lot, like

3037
02:01:03,360 --> 02:01:04,640
Speaker 2: people get chirped a lot for this.

3038
02:01:04,880 --> 02:01:06,800
Speaker 1: But if I'm at a local spot, I'm trying the

3039
02:01:06,800 --> 02:01:09,040
Speaker 1: local I p A s Yeah you know what I mean.

3040
02:01:09,080 --> 02:01:10,760
Speaker 1: I don't know what I p A stands for me,

3041
02:01:10,880 --> 02:01:13,520
Speaker 1: neither Indian pale ale. Yeah. I had to get that

3042
02:01:13,560 --> 02:01:15,840
Speaker 1: out there before Jack taught me. What are your what

3043
02:01:15,840 --> 02:01:17,960
Speaker 1: are your guys? Is? I know Jack, you guys talk

3044
02:01:18,000 --> 02:01:27,920
Speaker 1: about what I'm a Corse light guy.

3045
02:01:28,120 --> 02:01:31,680
Speaker 3: Number one two would probably be Modello love a good

3046
02:01:31,760 --> 02:01:32,400
Speaker 3: Mexican ale.

3047
02:01:32,840 --> 02:01:36,000
Speaker 1: Even throw Takat in there. What thek forgot about that?

3048
02:01:36,600 --> 02:01:41,800
Speaker 3: Land Sharks great on the beach. I do like, uh,

3049
02:01:41,960 --> 02:01:44,480
Speaker 3: the Sierra Nevada down there because I made this list,

3050
02:01:44,520 --> 02:01:47,600
Speaker 3: so I threw that one in there, and crazy I'm

3051
02:01:47,600 --> 02:01:49,920
Speaker 3: a big Mexican ale guy. Just that was a line

3052
02:01:50,320 --> 02:01:51,800
Speaker 3: just never doesn't do it for me.

3053
02:01:53,000 --> 02:01:54,920
Speaker 1: You with that, You're just not in your head.

3054
02:01:55,880 --> 02:01:58,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, it would probably be like a course banquet or

3055
02:01:58,560 --> 02:01:59,320
Speaker 4: a Mexican beer.

3056
02:01:59,600 --> 02:02:02,880
Speaker 1: That's about it. Got Yeah, what about you, you big

3057
02:02:03,160 --> 02:02:11,840
Speaker 1: Mexican ale guy. What's Hispanic. Yeah. Number one for me

3058
02:02:11,880 --> 02:02:14,280
Speaker 1: would probably be land shark yingling light.

3059
02:02:16,640 --> 02:02:20,640
Speaker 2: Do sekis Tata and uh Michaelobultra at the end.

3060
02:02:21,400 --> 02:02:23,400
Speaker 1: JP, you don't drink, but you can go ahead and

3061
02:02:24,360 --> 02:02:25,720
Speaker 1: it's your fir sotas JP.

3062
02:02:27,400 --> 02:02:34,440
Speaker 7: Number one, Oh duels number one duels bush light light

3063
02:02:35,360 --> 02:02:40,440
Speaker 7: like the Zeros Heineken Zeros cors edge, cores edge.

3064
02:02:41,320 --> 02:02:42,200
Speaker 1: You just keep giving him.

3065
02:02:43,240 --> 02:02:44,960
Speaker 5: I had a buddy that quit drinking recently, so I

3066
02:02:45,000 --> 02:02:47,040
Speaker 5: know all the an aviers. Yeah, when we hit to

3067
02:02:47,040 --> 02:02:51,960
Speaker 5: pick up a platinums, Uh, what is that extra alcohol?

3068
02:02:51,960 --> 02:02:55,240
Speaker 1: Don't that? Jn't know that though I didn't.

3069
02:02:55,280 --> 02:02:59,880
Speaker 4: You don't drink for real, just tequila, just tequila, man, Right,

3070
02:03:00,000 --> 02:03:01,280
Speaker 4: we got hammered in ann Arbor.

3071
02:03:01,280 --> 02:03:06,120
Speaker 1: What am I? Hey? JP got drunk and ann Arbor

3072
02:03:06,160 --> 02:03:07,120
Speaker 1: we did a little spring tour.

3073
02:03:07,240 --> 02:03:09,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was incredible and uh we got after he

3074
02:03:10,080 --> 02:03:11,600
Speaker 4: had was it a beer in your hand or a

3075
02:03:11,760 --> 02:03:13,160
Speaker 4: uh tequila?

3076
02:03:14,040 --> 02:03:15,080
Speaker 1: No tequila shots?

3077
02:03:15,120 --> 02:03:17,720
Speaker 4: It was no because oh yeah, because we give you

3078
02:03:17,760 --> 02:03:20,480
Speaker 4: one and we had always one. Yeah, there always be

3079
02:03:20,480 --> 02:03:22,640
Speaker 4: an extra. So we got after the Nebraska. We had

3080
02:03:22,640 --> 02:03:24,240
Speaker 4: a great We had a great time at all the spots.

3081
02:03:24,400 --> 02:03:26,080
Speaker 4: We didn't get to get after it in Tennessee just

3082
02:03:26,080 --> 02:03:30,480
Speaker 4: because there's a day trip. He said, Nebraska, what you're

3083
02:03:30,480 --> 02:03:31,280
Speaker 4: talking about Michigan.

3084
02:03:32,200 --> 02:03:34,880
Speaker 2: Uh, my fault, Tennessee. We didn't get to get after it.

3085
02:03:35,080 --> 02:03:36,320
Speaker 2: I'm saying, but you had it. You said we had

3086
02:03:36,320 --> 02:03:37,840
Speaker 2: a great time in Nebraska. You talking about Michigan and

3087
02:03:37,920 --> 02:03:39,640
Speaker 2: that we all went out right right right. But I'm saying,

3088
02:03:39,960 --> 02:03:41,520
Speaker 2: I'm just saying we got after it a little bit

3089
02:03:41,520 --> 02:03:43,800
Speaker 2: in Nebraska too. We're in Michigan. We have a great

3090
02:03:43,800 --> 02:03:46,960
Speaker 2: time in Michigan. Yeah, And uh, Taylor pulls me to

3091
02:03:47,040 --> 02:03:49,240
Speaker 2: the side. He's like, hey man, you know, I've been

3092
02:03:49,240 --> 02:03:51,040
Speaker 2: looking at JP like I think he got up on

3093
02:03:51,120 --> 02:03:54,040
Speaker 2: us last week, Like, yeah, we're all a little hungover JP.

3094
02:03:54,560 --> 02:03:56,960
Speaker 2: I think he was saucing every other shot. So we

3095
02:03:57,000 --> 02:03:59,520
Speaker 2: gotta get I do believe that we got to get

3096
02:03:59,560 --> 02:04:01,400
Speaker 2: him sucked up up and and I agreed with him.

3097
02:04:01,440 --> 02:04:03,400
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, bro, we gotta get JP sauce.

3098
02:04:03,480 --> 02:04:03,640
Speaker 1: Bro.

3099
02:04:04,000 --> 02:04:06,920
Speaker 2: So every time we order, every time we ordered drinks,

3100
02:04:07,240 --> 02:04:09,880
Speaker 2: there would be an extra shot and it would always

3101
02:04:09,880 --> 02:04:12,879
Speaker 2: be like, hey JP. And then we started j JP

3102
02:04:13,480 --> 02:04:16,120
Speaker 2: JB and I'm talking the bar was involved in everything,

3103
02:04:16,160 --> 02:04:18,080
Speaker 2: and yeah, just getting into.

3104
02:04:18,000 --> 02:04:21,240
Speaker 1: We got him slaughtered bro will take advantage of me

3105
02:04:21,320 --> 02:04:24,400
Speaker 1: later that night. Yeah, that's crazy. He wanted the left doors.

3106
02:04:24,400 --> 02:04:25,720
Speaker 1: I was like, you gotta work for these left doors.

3107
02:04:25,800 --> 02:04:30,960
Speaker 1: I'll come on in. Oh, dude, you got j That

3108
02:04:31,040 --> 02:04:31,920
Speaker 1: was a great time.

3109
02:04:32,560 --> 02:04:34,560
Speaker 4: Was so much to it was the past was fun too,

3110
02:04:34,600 --> 02:04:37,040
Speaker 4: but it was on spring break. Yeah, it would have

3111
02:04:37,080 --> 02:04:38,040
Speaker 4: been way more break.

3112
02:04:38,440 --> 02:04:40,840
Speaker 5: I've thrown shots on the floor in the bar before.

3113
02:04:41,840 --> 02:04:43,600
Speaker 5: I know where light beer is gonna take me. That's

3114
02:04:43,600 --> 02:04:45,040
Speaker 5: why I say, like going to a concertors to night,

3115
02:04:45,120 --> 02:04:46,960
Speaker 5: like I'll just drink light beer. I know is exactly

3116
02:04:47,000 --> 02:04:48,840
Speaker 5: where it's gonna take me. I know I'm not gonna

3117
02:04:48,840 --> 02:04:50,800
Speaker 5: make a fool of myself. And you get to a

3118
02:04:50,800 --> 02:04:52,800
Speaker 5: bar and ever you know you guys know like when

3119
02:04:52,800 --> 02:04:54,320
Speaker 5: you're playing ball and everyone's, oh, let me buy you

3120
02:04:54,320 --> 02:04:56,600
Speaker 5: a shot, and buffalo people love like it's all like

3121
02:04:56,640 --> 02:04:58,640
Speaker 5: a shoting beer, shotting a beer like.

3122
02:05:00,360 --> 02:05:02,320
Speaker 1: On the side, or you like hit him with the Ye,

3123
02:05:02,560 --> 02:05:04,880
Speaker 1: be clear. I never threw my shots on the ground.

3124
02:05:04,880 --> 02:05:07,080
Speaker 4: You lying like a rug on a rich man's floor.

3125
02:05:07,080 --> 02:05:09,000
Speaker 4: Tar their swift, you know.

3126
02:05:11,120 --> 02:05:12,000
Speaker 1: You for sure did.

3127
02:05:12,200 --> 02:05:14,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was doing something. He was babysitting drinks or something,

3128
02:05:15,000 --> 02:05:16,240
Speaker 2: because he was the heavyweight.

3129
02:05:16,800 --> 02:05:23,000
Speaker 4: Okay, he was running from bar to bar, running rinting

3130
02:05:23,040 --> 02:05:27,400
Speaker 4: Withers me. All the old lineman from Michigan came out

3131
02:05:27,400 --> 02:05:28,960
Speaker 4: with us. So we were all having a good time,

3132
02:05:29,080 --> 02:05:31,640
Speaker 4: like getting after it. And we were at this place

3133
02:05:31,680 --> 02:05:34,120
Speaker 4: called Scorekeepers, and we go to the Brown Jug, which

3134
02:05:34,160 --> 02:05:34,440
Speaker 4: is like.

3135
02:05:34,440 --> 02:05:35,320
Speaker 1: Two blocks away.

3136
02:05:35,400 --> 02:05:37,960
Speaker 4: He keeps us a blast and we go back to

3137
02:05:37,960 --> 02:05:39,560
Speaker 4: the Brown Jug and we're getting an uber and all

3138
02:05:39,560 --> 02:05:42,720
Speaker 4: of a sudden, we see JP fucking raining outside. He's

3139
02:05:42,720 --> 02:05:45,400
Speaker 4: fucking pretty another and someone goes, hey, who's got JP?

3140
02:05:45,520 --> 02:05:47,880
Speaker 4: And one of the old limono we got him and

3141
02:05:47,960 --> 02:05:50,120
Speaker 4: he fucking messed like three minutes after the car.

3142
02:05:50,160 --> 02:05:52,040
Speaker 1: Who got out of the car. We're getting rides home

3143
02:05:52,080 --> 02:05:56,320
Speaker 1: and he's taking like a little bike taxi. Hey he

3144
02:05:56,560 --> 02:05:58,680
Speaker 1: was acting a fool, dude. It was so much fun.

3145
02:05:59,000 --> 02:06:01,120
Speaker 4: We had a blast, dude. The Spring tours have been

3146
02:06:01,160 --> 02:06:04,000
Speaker 4: crazy for fun. I'm gonna need a special guest appearance

3147
02:06:04,040 --> 02:06:04,680
Speaker 4: next year on those.

3148
02:06:04,800 --> 02:06:06,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, hey we're trying to go.

3149
02:06:06,720 --> 02:06:08,960
Speaker 8: Let's do Louisville. I'm down to It's not far away

3150
02:06:09,000 --> 02:06:10,800
Speaker 8: at all. Yeah, two and a half three hours is

3151
02:06:10,880 --> 02:06:13,360
Speaker 8: it time on Louisville? Oh yeah, we have great time. Yeah,

3152
02:06:13,440 --> 02:06:15,600
Speaker 8: we can like The best is when you stay over night.

3153
02:06:16,120 --> 02:06:17,920
Speaker 8: You stay over night and get after it, like you

3154
02:06:18,000 --> 02:06:20,640
Speaker 8: can kind of be Like we were at skaps and

3155
02:06:21,560 --> 02:06:23,360
Speaker 8: some girls like what do you do for school? And

3156
02:06:23,400 --> 02:06:27,360
Speaker 8: I was like, oh, bro, I'm thirty. Like he goes,

3157
02:06:27,400 --> 02:06:29,120
Speaker 8: why are you here? And I was like that's a

3158
02:06:29,160 --> 02:06:32,360
Speaker 8: good question. I like walk away asked like those were ranging. Yeah,

3159
02:06:34,120 --> 02:06:36,880
Speaker 8: I'm back in college right now. But it's crazy, dude,

3160
02:06:37,200 --> 02:06:37,800
Speaker 8: it's fun.

3161
02:06:38,080 --> 02:06:38,760
Speaker 1: That was a blast.

3162
02:06:38,800 --> 02:06:41,600
Speaker 4: But we definitely the overnights we want to asu next year.

3163
02:06:42,120 --> 02:06:44,680
Speaker 4: You have a next year. Some of the Florida schools

3164
02:06:44,680 --> 02:06:46,280
Speaker 4: we're trying to stay warm next year. We hes all

3165
02:06:46,400 --> 02:06:49,640
Speaker 4: damn cold schools. Yeah, it was a blast, though. We

3166
02:06:49,720 --> 02:06:51,720
Speaker 4: should do Louisville because we were talking talking about bringing

3167
02:06:51,720 --> 02:06:53,400
Speaker 4: people with us, like having.

3168
02:06:53,320 --> 02:06:55,720
Speaker 2: Like our like if you go to Iowa, try and

3169
02:06:55,760 --> 02:06:57,520
Speaker 2: get kill on board, go to Louisville, get you go

3170
02:06:57,640 --> 02:06:59,840
Speaker 2: to Georgia, get Ben Jones, like get like guys where

3171
02:06:59,840 --> 02:07:00,720
Speaker 2: they went to that school.

3172
02:07:00,960 --> 02:07:03,440
Speaker 1: No doubt, Louisville's coaching staff is awesome too. You love

3173
02:07:03,480 --> 02:07:06,080
Speaker 1: those Oh really, Soderfield's great. You think we can get

3174
02:07:06,080 --> 02:07:09,920
Speaker 1: a jersey? Absolutely? See okay, guys quiping guy's my boys

3175
02:07:09,960 --> 02:07:12,560
Speaker 1: telling you, bro. We went to Tennessee and they didn't

3176
02:07:13,040 --> 02:07:14,120
Speaker 1: the ball.

3177
02:07:14,200 --> 02:07:18,160
Speaker 4: I'm a ball baseball guy, but no, I've been tweeting

3178
02:07:18,200 --> 02:07:20,480
Speaker 4: at the balls baseball team too. I followed him, and

3179
02:07:20,880 --> 02:07:24,640
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, we're built different out here. I'm a

3180
02:07:24,720 --> 02:07:27,400
Speaker 4: ball and I've worked out at Vanderbilt, so I went there,

3181
02:07:27,440 --> 02:07:29,400
Speaker 4: and I guess all the football team is like killing

3182
02:07:29,440 --> 02:07:29,920
Speaker 4: the string coach.

3183
02:07:29,960 --> 02:07:31,400
Speaker 1: That trains me, like, well, what the fuck's the wand

3184
02:07:31,480 --> 02:07:34,720
Speaker 1: doing out there? Yeah, because you're because you're of all.

3185
02:07:34,800 --> 02:07:36,800
Speaker 4: I'm a ball, I'm not a vall. I'm a ball

3186
02:07:36,880 --> 02:07:39,080
Speaker 4: baseball guy. I'm obviously a Michigan football guy.

3187
02:07:39,600 --> 02:07:41,840
Speaker 1: Well yeah, for sure, but I'm in the brass football guy.

3188
02:07:41,920 --> 02:07:45,040
Speaker 1: So we're on Michigan wolf ringes. Yeah, it's true, you

3189
02:07:45,080 --> 02:07:46,160
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I don't know.

3190
02:07:46,240 --> 02:07:47,520
Speaker 4: We'll have to see at the end of the year,

3191
02:07:47,560 --> 02:07:49,760
Speaker 4: in the fall when the balls play the Vanderbilt where

3192
02:07:49,760 --> 02:07:50,640
Speaker 4: I draw the line in the sand?

3193
02:07:51,240 --> 02:07:55,120
Speaker 1: What's crazy? But I can't Vanderbilt.

3194
02:07:58,120 --> 02:08:01,160
Speaker 4: If they played the Vanderbilt sorry and van I Vanderbilt

3195
02:08:01,160 --> 02:08:02,480
Speaker 4: hooks the boy up with the jersey, they might have

3196
02:08:02,560 --> 02:08:04,840
Speaker 4: the edge. But if Tennessee brings that jersey, they might

3197
02:08:04,880 --> 02:08:05,280
Speaker 4: have me too.

3198
02:08:05,280 --> 02:08:07,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm so easily bought.

3199
02:08:08,560 --> 02:08:10,400
Speaker 2: We stand any any school we go to, like, oh,

3200
02:08:10,400 --> 02:08:12,360
Speaker 2: I'm gonna root for you guys, know yeah, Oh that's

3201
02:08:12,400 --> 02:08:13,760
Speaker 2: like if I'm not room for Nebraska, if I'm not

3202
02:08:13,800 --> 02:08:15,400
Speaker 2: room for Michigan, I'm gonna be room for Tennessee.

3203
02:08:15,640 --> 02:08:17,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how you gotta do it one hundred percent.

3204
02:08:17,440 --> 02:08:18,800
Speaker 1: Eventually we had all the schools and be like, we

3205
02:08:18,880 --> 02:08:19,640
Speaker 1: just want everybody to win.

3206
02:08:19,720 --> 02:08:23,200
Speaker 2: We're gonna be yeah, yeah, yeah, give u participation teammates, Yeah,

3207
02:08:23,360 --> 02:08:24,560
Speaker 2: giving speeches at all of them.

3208
02:08:25,160 --> 02:08:27,440
Speaker 1: That's awesome. Well, I think we've ran this one drive.

3209
02:08:27,560 --> 02:08:30,480
Speaker 1: I think we've done it. We've been it's been a

3210
02:08:30,520 --> 02:08:30,880
Speaker 1: great time.

3211
02:08:30,920 --> 02:08:33,960
Speaker 4: It's been an outstanding time. We're happy you came on.

3212
02:08:34,040 --> 02:08:36,600
Speaker 4: And it's ten year anniversary. Yep, ten year anniversary.

3213
02:08:36,680 --> 02:08:39,240
Speaker 5: We got engaged at a Garth Brooks charity event out

3214
02:08:39,240 --> 02:08:42,400
Speaker 5: in Vegas, like twelve years ago. You guys, we did

3215
02:08:42,480 --> 02:08:44,680
Speaker 5: the exact opposite of you, Like we got we took

3216
02:08:44,720 --> 02:08:46,720
Speaker 5: our time. Yeah, y'all went, Hey, there's a bunch of

3217
02:08:46,760 --> 02:08:50,040
Speaker 5: ways to kinn a cat, no doubt about it. But anyways,

3218
02:08:50,040 --> 02:08:52,640
Speaker 5: we got engaged at a Garth Brooks charity event. You

3219
02:08:52,680 --> 02:08:55,720
Speaker 5: know twelve years ago, so celebrate ten years at a

3220
02:08:55,760 --> 02:08:56,640
Speaker 5: Garth concert tonight.

3221
02:08:56,760 --> 02:08:57,200
Speaker 1: Pretty tight.

3222
02:08:57,320 --> 02:09:00,200
Speaker 5: That's all we actually found out, unless it was any

3223
02:09:00,240 --> 02:09:02,560
Speaker 5: with our daughter the day of a Garth concert, like

3224
02:09:02,680 --> 02:09:06,480
Speaker 5: Garth's been there to meet him. I don't think so,

3225
02:09:06,560 --> 02:09:08,840
Speaker 5: because they stopped doing like all the meet and greets

3226
02:09:08,880 --> 02:09:11,040
Speaker 5: for the people that are involved with the foundation with COVID.

3227
02:09:11,280 --> 02:09:11,880
Speaker 1: I don't think so.

3228
02:09:12,240 --> 02:09:15,680
Speaker 5: I got in this bad ass barrelhead like, uh, hand

3229
02:09:15,800 --> 02:09:20,720
Speaker 5: carved of him and Tricia show a picture. But uh

3230
02:09:21,400 --> 02:09:24,520
Speaker 5: so I dropped that off to a social media director yesterday,

3231
02:09:24,960 --> 02:09:27,080
Speaker 5: and so'd be cool if you give a shout out.

3232
02:09:27,200 --> 02:09:30,600
Speaker 1: But you know, did garst Worth assault you have a

3233
02:09:30,640 --> 02:09:35,160
Speaker 1: shout out? You're O, that's cool. Yeah, that's awesome. Did

3234
02:09:35,200 --> 02:09:37,680
Speaker 1: you name your son Garth? No, he's Garrett, but that'd

3235
02:09:37,680 --> 02:09:40,840
Speaker 1: have been tight. I might start calling him Garth.

3236
02:09:41,000 --> 02:09:43,280
Speaker 2: I was gonna say all this, all this, uh, all

3237
02:09:43,320 --> 02:09:45,640
Speaker 2: these hints at Garth man, it's kind of like written

3238
02:09:45,680 --> 02:09:46,560
Speaker 2: in the stars.

3239
02:09:46,480 --> 02:09:48,640
Speaker 1: Of slopping in the face, Yeah, telling you what to

3240
02:09:48,680 --> 02:09:49,760
Speaker 1: do right now the universe.

3241
02:09:49,960 --> 02:09:53,760
Speaker 5: Garth's a freaking awesome person, though, like like some of

3242
02:09:53,800 --> 02:09:55,600
Speaker 5: those guys aren't all they're cracked up to.

3243
02:09:55,640 --> 02:09:56,800
Speaker 1: Be when you get to know him a little bit.

3244
02:09:56,840 --> 02:09:59,240
Speaker 5: We hosted a football camp in Louisville together for all

3245
02:09:59,280 --> 02:10:02,000
Speaker 5: inner cities kids. No one knew who Garth Brooks was,

3246
02:10:02,280 --> 02:10:03,680
Speaker 5: and that's how he loved it. Like sitting there in

3247
02:10:03,720 --> 02:10:06,000
Speaker 5: a hoodie and a hat, just like chopping it up.

3248
02:10:06,360 --> 02:10:08,440
Speaker 5: But the moment like he sealed the deal for me.

3249
02:10:08,520 --> 02:10:11,200
Speaker 5: He's just sitting over there talking to my father in law.

3250
02:10:11,560 --> 02:10:13,880
Speaker 5: Doesn't know he's my father in law, talks to him

3251
02:10:13,920 --> 02:10:15,360
Speaker 5: for twenty minutes. My father in law is one of

3252
02:10:15,360 --> 02:10:17,080
Speaker 5: my favorite people in the world, but he's a maleman.

3253
02:10:17,120 --> 02:10:19,360
Speaker 5: He can do nothing for Garth Brooks us sat there

3254
02:10:19,360 --> 02:10:21,840
Speaker 5: and talked to him for twenty minutes, loving the breeze

3255
02:10:21,880 --> 02:10:22,120
Speaker 5: with him.

3256
02:10:22,560 --> 02:10:23,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, he's a real one.

3257
02:10:24,200 --> 02:10:27,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, guy that's not worth their uh the like the

3258
02:10:27,520 --> 02:10:30,320
Speaker 5: coldest anyone who has been like you know, like they

3259
02:10:30,400 --> 02:10:33,200
Speaker 5: come through Louisville and you know they're playing at our

3260
02:10:33,240 --> 02:10:36,360
Speaker 5: basketball gym and whatnot, like we'll generally meet him or whatever.

3261
02:10:36,640 --> 02:10:39,480
Speaker 5: Zach Brown was like like one of the dudes who

3262
02:10:39,680 --> 02:10:43,640
Speaker 5: like didn't offer to like have a drink or whatever. Yeah, like, oh,

3263
02:10:44,000 --> 02:10:45,800
Speaker 5: one of my buddies had grown out of he was

3264
02:10:45,880 --> 02:10:49,560
Speaker 5: doing like November. This was a kind of early in

3265
02:10:49,600 --> 02:10:52,640
Speaker 5: my NFL career, so twenty twelve, twenty thirteen, so we're

3266
02:10:52,680 --> 02:10:54,200
Speaker 5: not like we're like in our late twenties.

3267
02:10:54,240 --> 02:10:57,040
Speaker 1: He grew up like this massive mustache and he was

3268
02:10:57,120 --> 02:10:57,560
Speaker 1: joking around.

3269
02:10:57,560 --> 02:10:59,320
Speaker 5: He's like, man, I've been I grew up this mustache

3270
02:10:59,400 --> 02:11:02,600
Speaker 5: for the concert and Zach Brown's like, that's a weird.

3271
02:11:02,480 --> 02:11:07,120
Speaker 4: Man, really, And then and then and then you know

3272
02:11:07,200 --> 02:11:08,640
Speaker 4: his chicken fry dude, and he's cold beer on a

3273
02:11:08,680 --> 02:11:09,960
Speaker 4: Friday night music.

3274
02:11:09,960 --> 02:11:12,080
Speaker 1: I'll meet you, hear us. I love his music. I'll

3275
02:11:12,120 --> 02:11:14,120
Speaker 1: let you do. They kill it? Dude. What's that song?

3276
02:11:14,360 --> 02:11:21,600
Speaker 1: Ows me out? Yeah? Probably older Weather. Oh that's the song.

3277
02:11:21,720 --> 02:11:23,959
Speaker 1: Was just trying to think of you and I'm stucking

3278
02:11:24,280 --> 02:11:28,640
Speaker 1: cold weather. Maybe tomorrow will be bed?

3279
02:11:29,680 --> 02:11:30,920
Speaker 6: Can I call you? Then?

3280
02:11:31,520 --> 02:11:35,640
Speaker 1: Doom Doom Doom because I'm a ramsom man and I

3281
02:11:36,320 --> 02:11:41,200
Speaker 1: never got to change. He got a gypsy soul to blame,

3282
02:11:41,320 --> 02:11:46,400
Speaker 1: and they were bone for leaving bone believing.

3283
02:11:48,080 --> 02:11:52,720
Speaker 6: Well, it's a woe row when you're in the lost

3284
02:11:52,880 --> 02:11:58,040
Speaker 6: and frown, you're a lover runner, and we go round

3285
02:11:58,160 --> 02:11:59,840
Speaker 6: and round Doom Doom Doom.

3286
02:12:00,040 --> 02:12:03,360
Speaker 1: Because that last I feel like we've I was I

3287
02:12:03,440 --> 02:12:03,800
Speaker 1: can't think.

3288
02:12:05,200 --> 02:12:07,080
Speaker 4: I kept thinking that one of you two It was like,

3289
02:12:07,160 --> 02:12:08,560
Speaker 4: both of you guys are gonna stop and let me

3290
02:12:08,680 --> 02:12:09,040
Speaker 4: keep going.

3291
02:12:09,440 --> 02:12:09,680
Speaker 1: I was.

3292
02:12:09,880 --> 02:12:13,840
Speaker 4: I love singing, yeah, always, what's that he was ready for?

3293
02:12:13,960 --> 02:12:15,320
Speaker 4: He was ready for us to turn the volume down

3294
02:12:15,320 --> 02:12:16,200
Speaker 4: the car on him real quick.

3295
02:12:16,760 --> 02:12:18,360
Speaker 1: One of my favorite things to do is get up

3296
02:12:18,360 --> 02:12:19,320
Speaker 1: on stage and single with the band.

3297
02:12:19,320 --> 02:12:21,880
Speaker 5: You talk about trying to replicate a rush, Yeah, playing

3298
02:12:21,920 --> 02:12:24,280
Speaker 5: football like singing in front of a crowd is awesome.

3299
02:12:24,440 --> 02:12:26,160
Speaker 1: I love it. What do you got? Should have been

3300
02:12:26,200 --> 02:12:28,240
Speaker 1: a cowboys like my go to, but like I'm not

3301
02:12:28,320 --> 02:12:28,800
Speaker 1: doing it here.

3302
02:12:28,960 --> 02:12:31,680
Speaker 4: Like we get a couple just wearing my six shooter

3303
02:12:31,880 --> 02:12:34,160
Speaker 4: riding my pony on the cattle drive.

3304
02:12:35,160 --> 02:12:35,800
Speaker 1: I'll put I'll pull it.

3305
02:12:35,840 --> 02:12:37,800
Speaker 5: I'll probably I'll probably end up on the stage tonight

3306
02:12:37,880 --> 02:12:39,120
Speaker 5: at the stage or something.

3307
02:12:39,840 --> 02:12:41,240
Speaker 1: Because you and Garth boys like that. So you can

3308
02:12:41,280 --> 02:12:41,680
Speaker 1: get out there.

3309
02:12:42,760 --> 02:12:46,520
Speaker 5: Where's my buddy at one of my boys, Chris Ferrara,

3310
02:12:46,800 --> 02:12:48,760
Speaker 5: Common Good He's playing at twelve thirty club tonight.

3311
02:12:49,400 --> 02:12:50,040
Speaker 1: So awesome.

3312
02:12:50,120 --> 02:12:51,920
Speaker 5: Spot by the way, it is, it's a cool area,

3313
02:12:52,040 --> 02:12:54,480
Speaker 5: Like that's one of my favorite spots. I was sitting

3314
02:12:54,480 --> 02:12:56,320
Speaker 5: that was sitting there one night. It's like the table

3315
02:12:56,400 --> 02:12:58,720
Speaker 5: that's kind of like right by the stage, and I

3316
02:12:58,800 --> 02:13:00,880
Speaker 5: was sitting there. Waitress came up like that's where JT

3317
02:13:01,040 --> 02:13:02,560
Speaker 5: sits when he comes in. I was like, oh, it's

3318
02:13:02,600 --> 02:13:03,320
Speaker 5: a special smith.

3319
02:13:03,400 --> 02:13:05,640
Speaker 1: This is nice. Yeah, I get to rub off on

3320
02:13:05,720 --> 02:13:07,400
Speaker 1: you a little bit, you know what I'm saying. It

3321
02:13:07,560 --> 02:13:10,400
Speaker 1: was the troll. He was branch. Do we got anything else?

3322
02:13:12,200 --> 02:13:16,040
Speaker 1: We all got anything. We haven't hit on anything anything.

3323
02:13:16,320 --> 02:13:20,040
Speaker 5: Foundation Foundation evan Wood Fund. So my little brother was

3324
02:13:20,080 --> 02:13:22,360
Speaker 5: born with severe several palsy. He passed when he was eleven.

3325
02:13:22,400 --> 02:13:25,120
Speaker 5: So we got that up in Buffalo stuck. So now

3326
02:13:25,160 --> 02:13:27,280
Speaker 5: it's called the Evanwood Fund. It was the Airwood Foundation.

3327
02:13:27,360 --> 02:13:29,720
Speaker 5: I made it the Evnwood Fund. It's under a children's

3328
02:13:29,760 --> 02:13:32,200
Speaker 5: hospital up there. So now they pay all the administrative fees,

3329
02:13:32,240 --> 02:13:35,400
Speaker 5: which is great. Yeah for all athletes that are starting

3330
02:13:36,040 --> 02:13:38,520
Speaker 5: foundations and all that make it a fund under a

3331
02:13:38,640 --> 02:13:41,280
Speaker 5: hospital and then they'll pay all the administrative fees. So

3332
02:13:41,360 --> 02:13:44,160
Speaker 5: instead of donating sixty or seventy percent, we donate ninety

3333
02:13:44,200 --> 02:13:48,000
Speaker 5: seven percent of the money donated, I say donate, all

3334
02:13:48,080 --> 02:13:49,000
Speaker 5: of it goes to the families.

3335
02:13:49,080 --> 02:13:51,000
Speaker 1: It was to like, hey, well, we had to.

3336
02:13:51,040 --> 02:13:52,920
Speaker 5: Pay a few bills and all that, like that three

3337
02:13:53,000 --> 02:13:55,880
Speaker 5: percent covers like booze at our charity event.

3338
02:13:55,960 --> 02:13:58,480
Speaker 1: You know, like, yeah, you know, so that's been a

3339
02:13:58,560 --> 02:13:59,120
Speaker 1: ton of fun to do.

3340
02:14:00,120 --> 02:14:03,000
Speaker 5: Throw the money out there. No, yeah, it's that's an investment.

3341
02:14:03,280 --> 02:14:05,680
Speaker 5: But now that's been fun. Got the broadcast, he got

3342
02:14:05,720 --> 02:14:06,280
Speaker 5: the podcast.

3343
02:14:06,720 --> 02:14:08,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's next with Eric Wood? What's next with Eric Wood?

3344
02:14:09,440 --> 02:14:12,040
Speaker 1: Boy was coming out? What what would be the go to?

3345
02:14:12,160 --> 02:14:13,480
Speaker 1: People are like, all right, I'm gonna go check out

3346
02:14:13,520 --> 02:14:15,400
Speaker 1: his podcast? What's like an episode? You're like, all right,

3347
02:14:15,440 --> 02:14:15,760
Speaker 1: go to this.

3348
02:14:15,760 --> 02:14:18,520
Speaker 5: Great question if you're into like personal development, like ed

3349
02:14:18,600 --> 02:14:21,600
Speaker 5: my Letts as good as it gets, you know, John Gordon,

3350
02:14:21,680 --> 02:14:24,360
Speaker 5: those types of dudes, those are great. If you're looking

3351
02:14:24,440 --> 02:14:26,880
Speaker 5: for a fun one, go listen to Ryan Fitzpatrick t

3352
02:14:27,040 --> 02:14:29,680
Speaker 5: O was pretty good on there. Joe Tom like if

3353
02:14:29,680 --> 02:14:31,840
Speaker 5: you like oh line talk. Joe Thomas was great. Nick

3354
02:14:31,880 --> 02:14:32,680
Speaker 5: Hardwick was great.

3355
02:14:33,120 --> 02:14:35,840
Speaker 1: Okay, Joe's awesome all the time. Joe is on the

3356
02:14:35,880 --> 02:14:38,240
Speaker 1: bus Man. We've had him on Zoom but not the bus.

3357
02:14:38,400 --> 02:14:40,560
Speaker 1: Are you doing she Code? Are you working with them?

3358
02:14:40,920 --> 02:14:44,040
Speaker 1: I'm doing it in two weeks? Yeah she could. She Code?

3359
02:14:44,160 --> 02:14:46,240
Speaker 4: Is Armando the guy that I've been working with for

3360
02:14:46,400 --> 02:14:50,400
Speaker 4: like brain hacking, like development breaking through those walls as

3361
02:14:50,400 --> 02:14:50,760
Speaker 4: a child.

3362
02:14:51,760 --> 02:14:54,800
Speaker 1: Oh the mental guy, Yeah, mental coach. I could have

3363
02:14:54,800 --> 02:14:56,200
Speaker 1: just said that the first time. I actually it actually

3364
02:14:56,280 --> 02:14:58,640
Speaker 1: ran away from me real quick. And I'm excited about

3365
02:14:58,680 --> 02:14:59,800
Speaker 1: that e md R treatment.

3366
02:14:59,880 --> 02:15:02,440
Speaker 5: Like I'm excited about it, and I think I'll like

3367
02:15:02,800 --> 02:15:05,560
Speaker 5: I had some traumatic stuff, so like I think that'll

3368
02:15:05,680 --> 02:15:08,280
Speaker 5: be really beneficial for me. But even like in talking

3369
02:15:08,320 --> 02:15:09,840
Speaker 5: with dudes that are transitioning out and be able to

3370
02:15:09,880 --> 02:15:11,680
Speaker 5: refer him to a bunch of other guys, I think

3371
02:15:11,760 --> 02:15:13,200
Speaker 5: that could be something that comes out of this.

3372
02:15:13,200 --> 02:15:14,880
Speaker 4: It was all time, when the when the when the

3373
02:15:14,920 --> 02:15:17,280
Speaker 4: Titans brought him on and I've been talking on like

3374
02:15:17,280 --> 02:15:18,800
Speaker 4: three four years ago. I want to talk to somebody

3375
02:15:18,880 --> 02:15:21,440
Speaker 4: kind of figure out these demons. And they brought them

3376
02:15:21,480 --> 02:15:22,800
Speaker 4: on and I was like, who wants to do it?

3377
02:15:22,800 --> 02:15:25,080
Speaker 4: And I was like, I'm all about it. So Armando's

3378
02:15:25,120 --> 02:15:27,720
Speaker 4: my boy. We've been working a lot, so it's it's awesome. Yeah,

3379
02:15:27,920 --> 02:15:31,520
Speaker 4: like the first five sessions, I cried losing it. We're

3380
02:15:31,560 --> 02:15:34,320
Speaker 4: doing a three day intensive in Louisville where like it's

3381
02:15:34,440 --> 02:15:37,000
Speaker 4: like all day, no phone, nothing. Yeah, yeah, I heard

3382
02:15:37,040 --> 02:15:38,800
Speaker 4: about that. I need to do one of those two. Yeah,

3383
02:15:38,840 --> 02:15:40,560
Speaker 4: sounds like a wreck. You're gonna wreck my world and

3384
02:15:40,640 --> 02:15:42,360
Speaker 4: then hopefully just like bring me out of it.

3385
02:15:42,560 --> 02:15:44,840
Speaker 1: God, you'll be glowing at the end of it. He

3386
02:15:45,040 --> 02:15:45,920
Speaker 1: is so smart too.

3387
02:15:46,280 --> 02:15:48,280
Speaker 4: The way he breaks things down tells you things, like

3388
02:15:48,400 --> 02:15:50,800
Speaker 4: the way he makes you search throughout your brain.

3389
02:15:50,880 --> 02:15:52,920
Speaker 1: It's a crazy deal. How often do you work with him?

3390
02:15:52,960 --> 02:15:55,720
Speaker 1: Once a week? I need to bump that up in

3391
02:15:55,760 --> 02:15:57,200
Speaker 1: two weeks though. Yeah.

3392
02:15:57,200 --> 02:16:00,440
Speaker 2: I mean, shoot, therapy is incredible, right, it really is,

3393
02:16:00,600 --> 02:16:02,240
Speaker 2: And they can get any kind of therapy in their life.

3394
02:16:02,280 --> 02:16:06,440
Speaker 1: I feel like that's like a it's it is extremely beneficial, right,

3395
02:16:06,560 --> 02:16:08,600
Speaker 1: But this dude's worked with so many athletes, like he

3396
02:16:08,720 --> 02:16:10,040
Speaker 1: gets it right, right.

3397
02:16:10,160 --> 02:16:12,600
Speaker 2: No, Yeah, but for people out there thinking all they're

3398
02:16:12,640 --> 02:16:16,240
Speaker 2: doing this some like some like extreme athletic hack for

3399
02:16:16,320 --> 02:16:16,720
Speaker 2: their brain.

3400
02:16:16,880 --> 02:16:19,360
Speaker 1: No, like that applies to anybody, right, Yeah, no doubt. Yeah.

3401
02:16:19,400 --> 02:16:21,480
Speaker 1: Be able to live free with not as much weight

3402
02:16:21,520 --> 02:16:23,600
Speaker 1: on your shoulders. What a way to live. Yeah, it's

3403
02:16:23,680 --> 02:16:24,920
Speaker 1: really the dream. Yeah.

3404
02:16:24,920 --> 02:16:26,600
Speaker 5: He was saying like, if you have if you have

3405
02:16:27,400 --> 02:16:30,960
Speaker 5: open loops of like traumatic experience in your life, you

3406
02:16:31,040 --> 02:16:32,960
Speaker 5: don't even know that you're triggering those moments. And I

3407
02:16:32,959 --> 02:16:34,520
Speaker 5: haven't even done the treatment. I've just had a bunch

3408
02:16:34,560 --> 02:16:36,480
Speaker 5: of conversations with him and looking into it. But you

3409
02:16:36,680 --> 02:16:38,920
Speaker 5: go back to the mental state that you were in

3410
02:16:39,080 --> 02:16:42,160
Speaker 5: at that age and that emotional state whenever you're triggered

3411
02:16:42,200 --> 02:16:44,160
Speaker 5: in any type of way, and like it might be

3412
02:16:44,720 --> 02:16:46,160
Speaker 5: you know, a death of a loved one, it might

3413
02:16:46,200 --> 02:16:50,080
Speaker 5: be alcoholic parents, whatever it may be. But like something

3414
02:16:50,120 --> 02:16:52,440
Speaker 5: could trigger you and you don't even realize it, Like

3415
02:16:52,560 --> 02:16:54,520
Speaker 5: it might be just like the way you someone made

3416
02:16:54,560 --> 02:16:56,480
Speaker 5: you feel, made you feel in that way, then all

3417
02:16:56,480 --> 02:16:58,600
Speaker 5: of a sudden, you're like a freaking six year old again.

3418
02:16:59,200 --> 02:17:00,720
Speaker 1: Like emotion and mentally.

3419
02:17:00,800 --> 02:17:02,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I tell you what, you do an hour session

3420
02:17:02,600 --> 02:17:05,440
Speaker 4: with him and you leave that session feeling amazing.

3421
02:17:06,120 --> 02:17:07,920
Speaker 1: He plays music for you, he does he.

3422
02:17:07,920 --> 02:17:10,920
Speaker 4: Has a whole like work with this guy who does beats,

3423
02:17:11,000 --> 02:17:13,600
Speaker 4: but he put beats together in this like a way

3424
02:17:13,720 --> 02:17:15,320
Speaker 4: that helps your brain like relax.

3425
02:17:15,400 --> 02:17:17,840
Speaker 1: It's a crazy deal. It's a crazy deal, but it's

3426
02:17:17,879 --> 02:17:19,480
Speaker 1: really cool, really cool.

3427
02:17:19,480 --> 02:17:20,879
Speaker 5: I gotta get both of you guys on the podcast.

3428
02:17:21,040 --> 02:17:22,960
Speaker 5: Try to record with Will. First time in my life

3429
02:17:23,000 --> 02:17:24,600
Speaker 5: the internet went out at our house, so.

3430
02:17:24,879 --> 02:17:26,920
Speaker 1: I try to do that. We got back up. Was

3431
02:17:26,959 --> 02:17:28,920
Speaker 1: it during COVID, Yeah, it was during COVID.

3432
02:17:29,240 --> 02:17:31,640
Speaker 5: I mean, it was great stuff, and then it was like, well,

3433
02:17:31,640 --> 02:17:33,080
Speaker 5: we can't even do it next week because it'll be

3434
02:17:33,120 --> 02:17:35,040
Speaker 5: like we're just repeating. We're gonna we're gonna try and

3435
02:17:35,120 --> 02:17:36,960
Speaker 5: recreate the same stuff and it won't be nearly as good.

3436
02:17:37,000 --> 02:17:38,640
Speaker 5: I'm like, let's just let it breathe for a while

3437
02:17:38,680 --> 02:17:39,600
Speaker 5: and we'll go back and do it again.

3438
02:17:39,920 --> 02:17:41,800
Speaker 1: Now I've kind of forgotten exactly get back into it.

3439
02:17:41,920 --> 02:17:44,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, we would try and reconnect, and I would try

3440
02:17:44,360 --> 02:17:46,880
Speaker 2: and put myself in the same like state where I

3441
02:17:47,040 --> 02:17:48,520
Speaker 2: was like going and I'm like, are.

3442
02:17:48,480 --> 02:17:52,760
Speaker 1: You there, Oh dude, I was that's tough. Yeah, we

3443
02:17:52,840 --> 02:17:54,480
Speaker 1: got We tried it there on a couple of times,

3444
02:17:54,560 --> 02:17:55,360
Speaker 1: and then it was zoom.

3445
02:17:55,440 --> 02:17:57,800
Speaker 2: So you're like you're sitting there way and I feel

3446
02:17:57,800 --> 02:17:59,720
Speaker 2: like everybody at that point in COVID, like we're doing

3447
02:17:59,720 --> 02:18:01,640
Speaker 2: our You're like trying to figure out the whole Zoom

3448
02:18:01,680 --> 02:18:02,800
Speaker 2: game and everything else.

3449
02:18:02,720 --> 02:18:04,520
Speaker 5: A touch of a lag, so you've kind of interrupting

3450
02:18:04,560 --> 02:18:06,560
Speaker 5: each other a little bit. Yeah, yeah, I heard you

3451
02:18:06,680 --> 02:18:08,400
Speaker 5: with my my boy cow Rude Off he's one of

3452
02:18:08,480 --> 02:18:09,800
Speaker 5: my best friends. I heard you all with him and

3453
02:18:09,879 --> 02:18:11,600
Speaker 5: like kind of stepping on each other's stores on. Yeah,

3454
02:18:11,600 --> 02:18:13,160
Speaker 5: that would be really hard if you're not in the

3455
02:18:13,240 --> 02:18:15,000
Speaker 5: room together, if you're co hosting.

3456
02:18:15,480 --> 02:18:18,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was definitely a tough deal on Taylor and I,

3457
02:18:18,760 --> 02:18:22,359
Speaker 4: like we're not some buttoned up Yeah.

3458
02:18:22,200 --> 02:18:24,360
Speaker 5: There's no there's no no doubt about it. And you're

3459
02:18:24,400 --> 02:18:26,879
Speaker 5: trying to run the conversation. You know, you don't want

3460
02:18:26,879 --> 02:18:28,240
Speaker 5: there to be just you don't want the guests to

3461
02:18:28,240 --> 02:18:30,080
Speaker 5: be sitting there like we done.

3462
02:18:30,240 --> 02:18:32,280
Speaker 4: If we're talking to you, Will and I can kind

3463
02:18:32,280 --> 02:18:33,840
Speaker 4: of feel like when the next person's got a question

3464
02:18:33,920 --> 02:18:36,320
Speaker 4: when we're with each other, but if you're on the computer,

3465
02:18:36,440 --> 02:18:38,360
Speaker 4: it's like, I guess like you're kind of you get

3466
02:18:38,360 --> 02:18:39,520
Speaker 4: to a point you're like, man, I don't want this

3467
02:18:39,640 --> 02:18:41,240
Speaker 4: to be like an awkward pause, So I got to

3468
02:18:41,240 --> 02:18:41,840
Speaker 4: ask this question.

3469
02:18:41,879 --> 02:18:43,760
Speaker 1: But Will is probably thinking the same thing. Right he

3470
02:18:43,800 --> 02:18:45,880
Speaker 1: goes ask question, We're like, well, hey, you go ahead.

3471
02:18:46,000 --> 02:18:47,800
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You both say you go

3472
02:18:47,840 --> 02:18:50,280
Speaker 1: ahead and all right, and then it's just a fucking deal.

3473
02:18:53,680 --> 02:18:56,840
Speaker 4: Then you just stay there there, you go ahead, you

3474
02:18:56,959 --> 02:18:58,920
Speaker 4: go ahead, kind of stare at us, look down on

3475
02:18:58,959 --> 02:18:59,920
Speaker 4: your phone, fucking idiot.

3476
02:19:00,160 --> 02:19:03,200
Speaker 2: We appreciate it, bro, Yeah, i'mbscribed to what What's next

3477
02:19:03,240 --> 02:19:05,800
Speaker 2: with Eric Wood? Check out those episodes. But this was

3478
02:19:05,879 --> 02:19:07,840
Speaker 2: a This was a great episode. I don't have to

3479
02:19:07,879 --> 02:19:09,360
Speaker 2: look at notes like it's all.

3480
02:19:09,280 --> 02:19:11,560
Speaker 5: Time, no doubt, no doubt about it. Yeah, and I

3481
02:19:11,640 --> 02:19:13,760
Speaker 5: appreciate you let me come on. I mean, I've been

3482
02:19:13,800 --> 02:19:17,480
Speaker 5: a fan of the show, so I'm honored.

3483
02:19:17,760 --> 02:19:20,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, Tier three Cat in our Hands, Yeah, I love it.

3484
02:19:20,920 --> 02:19:23,120
Speaker 2: I didn't get to uh, I didn't get to ask

3485
02:19:23,200 --> 02:19:26,039
Speaker 2: about because you're a huge football junkie, so the answer

3486
02:19:26,080 --> 02:19:28,280
Speaker 2: will probably be no. But now that you're doing the

3487
02:19:28,320 --> 02:19:30,600
Speaker 2: media stuff, do you think back, like, ah, man, if

3488
02:19:30,600 --> 02:19:32,440
Speaker 2: I would have if I would have struck a little more,

3489
02:19:32,480 --> 02:19:35,400
Speaker 2: started a little earlier, Because to me, it's always different

3490
02:19:35,440 --> 02:19:38,040
Speaker 2: when you're you become a retired player versus like being

3491
02:19:38,120 --> 02:19:40,240
Speaker 2: in being an active player. That's what I feel like

3492
02:19:40,280 --> 02:19:42,560
Speaker 2: it has been very beneficial for us is doing it

3493
02:19:42,680 --> 02:19:45,400
Speaker 2: like wall we're kind of playing. Obviously, it's it's hard

3494
02:19:45,440 --> 02:19:47,400
Speaker 2: to be like, yeah, I mean I probably wouldn't have

3495
02:19:47,400 --> 02:19:48,920
Speaker 2: done it as playing, but now that I'm doing it

3496
02:19:49,440 --> 02:19:52,480
Speaker 2: doing it currently, it's like I should have probably done

3497
02:19:52,520 --> 02:19:53,879
Speaker 2: a couple more things early in my career.

3498
02:19:54,040 --> 02:19:56,480
Speaker 5: I think, especially with the media world, the more connections

3499
02:19:56,520 --> 02:19:58,120
Speaker 5: you can make like you don't even necessarily have to

3500
02:19:58,120 --> 02:20:01,000
Speaker 5: get reps, but like you better be treating those national

3501
02:20:01,080 --> 02:20:02,840
Speaker 5: media members with a lot of respect and make as

3502
02:20:02,879 --> 02:20:05,240
Speaker 5: many friendships as you can. Like I wasn't even like

3503
02:20:05,600 --> 02:20:06,920
Speaker 5: I thought I was gonna play for five or ten

3504
02:20:06,959 --> 02:20:08,800
Speaker 5: more years, so I wasn't like thinking about it all.

3505
02:20:09,120 --> 02:20:11,960
Speaker 5: But then Mike Silver and Ian Rapperport and all these

3506
02:20:12,040 --> 02:20:13,760
Speaker 5: dudes reached out like, hey, you need an agent. You

3507
02:20:13,840 --> 02:20:15,800
Speaker 5: want me to help you get a gig here, you know,

3508
02:20:16,200 --> 02:20:17,640
Speaker 5: And then they'd be like, hey, can we make an

3509
02:20:17,640 --> 02:20:20,320
Speaker 5: introduction to ESPN here and there? And like those were

3510
02:20:20,400 --> 02:20:22,880
Speaker 5: all just people that throughout my career, you know, just

3511
02:20:22,920 --> 02:20:25,760
Speaker 5: treat them well and so like and make those connections,

3512
02:20:25,800 --> 02:20:27,800
Speaker 5: make friendships. It was Albert, It was a bunch of

3513
02:20:27,879 --> 02:20:30,440
Speaker 5: people that like helped me get into it because you

3514
02:20:30,560 --> 02:20:32,279
Speaker 5: treated them right, And I think that goes with anything

3515
02:20:32,280 --> 02:20:32,640
Speaker 5: in life.

3516
02:20:32,879 --> 02:20:35,119
Speaker 1: But then, you know, I love what you guys are doing.

3517
02:20:35,320 --> 02:20:38,520
Speaker 5: Like having passions outside of ball is healthy too, you know,

3518
02:20:38,720 --> 02:20:40,720
Speaker 5: like in having something that you can pour into. But

3519
02:20:40,800 --> 02:20:43,320
Speaker 5: I always warned people, like I always tell people, I'm like,

3520
02:20:43,400 --> 02:20:46,560
Speaker 5: if you're too like if you're skipping workouts and stuff

3521
02:20:46,640 --> 02:20:48,160
Speaker 5: to go do this real estate gig and all that.

3522
02:20:48,360 --> 02:20:50,240
Speaker 5: Like you're gonna find the end of your career a

3523
02:20:50,320 --> 02:20:52,560
Speaker 5: lot sooner than you would have otherwise. So you need

3524
02:20:52,640 --> 02:20:54,000
Speaker 5: to be all in on ball and then if you

3525
02:20:54,080 --> 02:20:56,840
Speaker 5: have time to do something else, perfect do it, especially

3526
02:20:56,879 --> 02:20:59,200
Speaker 5: if it's something like this where it's like healthy, it's

3527
02:20:59,240 --> 02:21:04,360
Speaker 5: not like tracting from ball and it's not like you're

3528
02:21:04,400 --> 02:21:06,040
Speaker 5: out like doing something that. It's not like you're not

3529
02:21:06,120 --> 02:21:08,480
Speaker 5: playing basketball you get hurt or whatever. Yeah, I say that,

3530
02:21:09,000 --> 02:21:11,280
Speaker 5: but like I tell people, I'm like, man, you start

3531
02:21:11,320 --> 02:21:14,000
Speaker 5: doing real estate, you'll realize quickly. Like those dudes that

3532
02:21:14,160 --> 02:21:16,520
Speaker 5: make four or five hundred grand, that's a lot of money. Okay,

3533
02:21:16,800 --> 02:21:20,640
Speaker 5: if you make five million bucks, that's ten years, right,

3534
02:21:20,720 --> 02:21:23,240
Speaker 5: work into real estate, like it's only one year. Like,

3535
02:21:23,440 --> 02:21:25,480
Speaker 5: be really careful when you're putting too much time into

3536
02:21:25,520 --> 02:21:27,120
Speaker 5: something like that in the off season.

3537
02:21:27,840 --> 02:21:31,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, football is definitely. Don't say that for credit, No,

3538
02:21:31,480 --> 02:21:34,840
Speaker 1: not at all. Yeah. Yeah, those paychecks they just don't

3539
02:21:34,840 --> 02:21:37,160
Speaker 1: fall off a treatment. Yeah that just playing in general too.

3540
02:21:37,400 --> 02:21:39,200
Speaker 4: Oh fuck, it's like you said, like you just wake

3541
02:21:39,320 --> 02:21:40,680
Speaker 4: up and you just can't play anymore, and it's like

3542
02:21:40,800 --> 02:21:43,000
Speaker 4: there's no time, there's never you'll never be able to

3543
02:21:43,040 --> 02:21:43,879
Speaker 4: go back and try again.

3544
02:21:45,200 --> 02:21:48,120
Speaker 2: And it's not a sport where you go and play

3545
02:21:48,240 --> 02:21:51,520
Speaker 2: recreationally like basketball, you can stay involved hootball, you can

3546
02:21:51,720 --> 02:21:53,560
Speaker 2: get on a softball team, like you can do stuff

3547
02:21:53,600 --> 02:21:55,840
Speaker 2: like that. Ball you ain't going and be like, hey,

3548
02:21:55,959 --> 02:21:58,680
Speaker 2: let's fucking let's get the boys together real quick.

3549
02:21:58,720 --> 02:21:59,680
Speaker 1: Boys, yeah, which is.

3550
02:21:59,680 --> 02:22:01,880
Speaker 5: Actually awesome because then you can just be the greatest

3551
02:22:01,959 --> 02:22:03,800
Speaker 5: forever and like no one's ever gonna be like, dude,

3552
02:22:03,840 --> 02:22:05,480
Speaker 5: let's do a one on one passer. You're like, no,

3553
02:22:05,600 --> 02:22:07,640
Speaker 5: we're not doing that like that, Like so then you're

3554
02:22:07,760 --> 02:22:10,119
Speaker 5: just good forever, like you're good. But like you see

3555
02:22:10,200 --> 02:22:12,080
Speaker 5: these like former tour pros, they'll play in like a

3556
02:22:12,120 --> 02:22:14,080
Speaker 5: pro am and they're like terrible now and they hated

3557
02:22:14,160 --> 02:22:15,120
Speaker 5: and they're crated, Like.

3558
02:22:15,120 --> 02:22:16,520
Speaker 1: You never have to get that way about the game.

3559
02:22:16,600 --> 02:22:20,520
Speaker 5: But last thing for me, but I really appreciated earlier

3560
02:22:20,520 --> 02:22:22,360
Speaker 5: when you said, like when you were running today, like

3561
02:22:22,480 --> 02:22:24,840
Speaker 5: you had that like the presence about you to say like, man,

3562
02:22:24,840 --> 02:22:26,920
Speaker 5: I'm grateful that I can even out here running and

3563
02:22:27,000 --> 02:22:28,880
Speaker 5: like it sucks to on a conditioning session, especially you

3564
02:22:28,879 --> 02:22:30,600
Speaker 5: said you almost passed out. I hate to be like, man,

3565
02:22:30,640 --> 02:22:32,920
Speaker 5: I'm grateful for this opportunity because I know what how

3566
02:22:33,560 --> 02:22:37,320
Speaker 5: crappy was last year. I couldn't even run. Like if

3567
02:22:37,320 --> 02:22:39,520
Speaker 5: people will ask me, like what do you regret anything

3568
02:22:39,560 --> 02:22:42,080
Speaker 5: from your career? And like my biggest regret was, like

3569
02:22:42,160 --> 02:22:44,160
Speaker 5: the first five years of my career, I put so

3570
02:22:44,280 --> 02:22:46,520
Speaker 5: much pressure myself, Like, man, I bus like I keep

3571
02:22:46,560 --> 02:22:48,960
Speaker 5: getting hurt, you know, like I cared like way too

3572
02:22:49,040 --> 02:22:52,240
Speaker 5: much what everyone thought. And like the last like three

3573
02:22:52,320 --> 02:22:53,920
Speaker 5: or four years of my career, I would just drive

3574
02:22:53,959 --> 02:22:54,560
Speaker 5: to the stadium with.

3575
02:22:54,560 --> 02:22:56,000
Speaker 1: The sound off and be like, man, how cool is it?

3576
02:22:56,000 --> 02:22:58,000
Speaker 5: And I only lived my way, so it's like five minutes,

3577
02:22:58,320 --> 02:22:59,680
Speaker 5: a couple of stop lights, and I'm there.

3578
02:23:00,040 --> 02:23:01,040
Speaker 1: I'd be like, man, how cool is this?

3579
02:23:01,240 --> 02:23:03,480
Speaker 5: Like I didn't even start on my high school football

3580
02:23:03,480 --> 02:23:05,200
Speaker 5: team as a junior in high school, and now I

3581
02:23:05,280 --> 02:23:07,080
Speaker 5: get to go to an NFL facility and work like

3582
02:23:07,440 --> 02:23:09,240
Speaker 5: and I would walk in each day just like on

3583
02:23:09,440 --> 02:23:12,480
Speaker 5: fire to be there. And that changed my mindset completely,

3584
02:23:12,760 --> 02:23:16,200
Speaker 5: just like a small little gratitude practice. But like when

3585
02:23:16,240 --> 02:23:18,520
Speaker 5: you're in the league, like enjoy it, Like you work

3586
02:23:18,640 --> 02:23:21,240
Speaker 5: so hard to get there. In the moment, it's tough,

3587
02:23:21,440 --> 02:23:22,960
Speaker 5: you know, cause you're always worried about like it right

3588
02:23:23,000 --> 02:23:24,760
Speaker 5: when you get that next paychecker or am I going

3589
02:23:24,800 --> 02:23:25,400
Speaker 5: to get cut.

3590
02:23:25,560 --> 02:23:26,000
Speaker 1: If you lose?

3591
02:23:26,080 --> 02:23:27,720
Speaker 2: You put something bat on film, you're watching it any

3592
02:23:27,800 --> 02:23:30,160
Speaker 2: times a night, like fuck, yes, bring this up in

3593
02:23:30,160 --> 02:23:30,800
Speaker 2: the meeting tomorrow.

3594
02:23:30,959 --> 02:23:33,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, but it's like, man, you get to be a part,

3595
02:23:33,240 --> 02:23:35,240
Speaker 5: Like you get to live out your dream like enjoy

3596
02:23:35,360 --> 02:23:36,880
Speaker 5: it and who gives a crap if you have beat

3597
02:23:36,920 --> 02:23:38,560
Speaker 5: to play. It took me a while to realize, Like

3598
02:23:38,760 --> 02:23:41,920
Speaker 5: those dudes on Defense get paid too, right, Like it's okay,

3599
02:23:42,400 --> 02:23:43,160
Speaker 5: yeah it is.

3600
02:23:43,240 --> 02:23:44,840
Speaker 4: It's all about how it's worded to you two as

3601
02:23:44,879 --> 02:23:46,960
Speaker 4: you're receiving it from your coaches. Yes, like if the

3602
02:23:47,000 --> 02:23:49,640
Speaker 4: coach doesn't understand that they get paid too, and it's

3603
02:23:49,680 --> 02:23:52,400
Speaker 4: just like this cloud of like nothing's ever good enough.

3604
02:23:53,160 --> 02:23:54,000
Speaker 1: That's hard to deal with.

3605
02:23:54,480 --> 02:23:56,400
Speaker 4: That's hard to But you have to be comfortable with

3606
02:23:56,400 --> 02:23:59,200
Speaker 4: yourself working with a guy like Armando and doing that work,

3607
02:23:59,280 --> 02:24:00,840
Speaker 4: so you can be like, Okay, I'm doing what I

3608
02:24:00,920 --> 02:24:03,520
Speaker 4: need to do, and then you can be like you

3609
02:24:03,560 --> 02:24:05,480
Speaker 4: can be strategic about how you approach the next thing.

3610
02:24:05,680 --> 02:24:06,600
Speaker 1: I have to work on my hands. I have to

3611
02:24:06,640 --> 02:24:07,160
Speaker 1: work on my set.

3612
02:24:07,240 --> 02:24:09,359
Speaker 4: This way, my hips turn when I go to transition

3613
02:24:09,440 --> 02:24:11,200
Speaker 4: with the guys on the high end of the rush

3614
02:24:11,360 --> 02:24:15,119
Speaker 4: like those types of things, Like it's all about incrementally

3615
02:24:15,640 --> 02:24:17,720
Speaker 4: figuring out those little things and you just keep progressing.

3616
02:24:17,760 --> 02:24:20,800
Speaker 4: That's what great thing about campus camp fucking sucks. Nobody

3617
02:24:20,920 --> 02:24:22,720
Speaker 4: likes camp, but if you take it and like, I'm

3618
02:24:22,720 --> 02:24:24,920
Speaker 4: just gonna get better at this today, your whole game

3619
02:24:24,959 --> 02:24:26,360
Speaker 4: doesn't have to be good. But if you're like my

3620
02:24:26,400 --> 02:24:28,600
Speaker 4: backside cut offs. You don't ever have a backside cut

3621
02:24:28,640 --> 02:24:31,520
Speaker 4: up in a center, but like your man reaches or whatever, right,

3622
02:24:31,720 --> 02:24:33,760
Speaker 4: you're like, if I can just fit this good today,

3623
02:24:34,000 --> 02:24:36,040
Speaker 4: solid day, be a great all around game.

3624
02:24:36,080 --> 02:24:38,119
Speaker 1: You're not there yet. It's August, it's late July, whatever

3625
02:24:38,200 --> 02:24:40,879
Speaker 1: it is. So making the most of it, for sure

3626
02:24:41,000 --> 02:24:41,520
Speaker 1: is everything.

3627
02:24:41,600 --> 02:24:44,800
Speaker 2: And sometimes when you're getting coach trd like knowing that

3628
02:24:44,879 --> 02:24:47,400
Speaker 2: it's not like an attack on you personally, like it's

3629
02:24:47,440 --> 02:24:49,440
Speaker 2: not about you, Like, yeah, one thing that what I

3630
02:24:49,440 --> 02:24:51,520
Speaker 2: would think about holst me that would help me is

3631
02:24:51,600 --> 02:24:54,640
Speaker 2: knowing that that coach then leaves our meeting, has to

3632
02:24:54,720 --> 02:24:56,960
Speaker 2: go into a bigger meeting and they might be getting

3633
02:24:57,040 --> 02:25:00,360
Speaker 2: cussed at about something that their players are doing. He

3634
02:25:00,480 --> 02:25:03,080
Speaker 2: might be projecting, or him having his own deal with

3635
02:25:03,160 --> 02:25:06,040
Speaker 2: you just knowing like, yo, it's not even about you probably, Yeah,

3636
02:25:06,320 --> 02:25:07,400
Speaker 2: And there's.

3637
02:25:07,240 --> 02:25:08,840
Speaker 4: A it's tough too that when ego gets in the

3638
02:25:08,879 --> 02:25:12,240
Speaker 4: way of like if your coach like Keith our online coach,

3639
02:25:12,320 --> 02:25:14,800
Speaker 4: he's never played offensive line, he was a tight end.

3640
02:25:14,840 --> 02:25:16,240
Speaker 1: And then there's these.

3641
02:25:18,000 --> 02:25:19,840
Speaker 4: There are times where there's a there's a little bit

3642
02:25:19,840 --> 02:25:21,400
Speaker 4: of a disconnect in a way where you're like, dude,

3643
02:25:21,560 --> 02:25:24,400
Speaker 4: like you're asking for something in a simple way that

3644
02:25:24,480 --> 02:25:26,920
Speaker 4: it's not it's not that easy to do, right, you know,

3645
02:25:27,200 --> 02:25:29,800
Speaker 4: you can't like it's easy to talk about doing something

3646
02:25:29,840 --> 02:25:31,720
Speaker 4: or where your hat's supposed to be bullets are flying,

3647
02:25:31,959 --> 02:25:34,360
Speaker 4: Like shit's a little harder. That's what the great ones do.

3648
02:25:34,440 --> 02:25:36,400
Speaker 4: They make it look easy. That's what it's a rable comment.

3649
02:25:37,000 --> 02:25:38,760
Speaker 4: The great ones make it look easy. Joe Thomas is

3650
02:25:38,800 --> 02:25:40,920
Speaker 4: the perfect example of that. He would just go and

3651
02:25:41,000 --> 02:25:43,040
Speaker 4: you I'd watch them on a film legit be like yo,

3652
02:25:43,160 --> 02:25:45,280
Speaker 4: fuck Joe, Like he makes it shite look so damn easy.

3653
02:25:45,400 --> 02:25:48,240
Speaker 4: Never touch the ground in a ga maargic, just like chilling.

3654
02:25:48,480 --> 02:25:50,000
Speaker 4: I'm like, how is he getting back? And the guy

3655
02:25:50,160 --> 02:25:53,120
Speaker 4: just kind of falls into him. Yeah, I'm make my

3656
02:25:53,240 --> 02:25:54,400
Speaker 4: tenth Pro Bowl in ten years.

3657
02:25:54,600 --> 02:25:57,680
Speaker 5: You know it's ship like that an awesome story of

3658
02:25:57,760 --> 02:26:01,039
Speaker 5: my podcast about to keep that start streak alive.

3659
02:26:01,840 --> 02:26:04,320
Speaker 1: He didn't practice for like four straight weeks. His back

3660
02:26:04,440 --> 02:26:04,840
Speaker 1: was so bad.

3661
02:26:04,879 --> 02:26:06,240
Speaker 5: He was doing like two and a half hours of

3662
02:26:06,320 --> 02:26:08,920
Speaker 5: treatment before games, getting it shot up. He couldn't even

3663
02:26:09,040 --> 02:26:11,680
Speaker 5: sit in meetings. He had to stand because his back

3664
02:26:11,760 --> 02:26:13,440
Speaker 5: was so jacked up. And they're just like wheeling them

3665
02:26:13,480 --> 02:26:15,000
Speaker 5: out every week. But he had so much pride in

3666
02:26:15,080 --> 02:26:18,039
Speaker 5: that star streak and he was like, man, at this point,

3667
02:26:18,160 --> 02:26:21,240
Speaker 5: I like I can play, Yeah, I can get out there.

3668
02:26:21,879 --> 02:26:23,840
Speaker 5: So like, what's it saying about me now? If I've

3669
02:26:23,840 --> 02:26:25,920
Speaker 5: made all this money and I'm making these Pro Bowls

3670
02:26:25,959 --> 02:26:28,160
Speaker 5: and now I shut it down? Like am I selling out?

3671
02:26:28,280 --> 02:26:30,240
Speaker 5: And like, yeah, I couldn't do it. And he was like, man,

3672
02:26:30,280 --> 02:26:32,320
Speaker 5: it was like really dangerous what I was doing, dude.

3673
02:26:32,320 --> 02:26:32,520
Speaker 1: I was.

3674
02:26:32,680 --> 02:26:35,040
Speaker 4: I was at the game when he towards Trice up

3675
02:26:35,280 --> 02:26:36,840
Speaker 4: he was playing as Italians, and I was like, it

3676
02:26:36,959 --> 02:26:39,720
Speaker 4: was literally like watching somebody like I don't know, like

3677
02:26:39,879 --> 02:26:40,560
Speaker 4: an older brother.

3678
02:26:40,840 --> 02:26:42,560
Speaker 1: I have to be like watching a superhero.

3679
02:26:42,800 --> 02:26:45,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it was like home Bown, What the fuck's

3680
02:26:45,480 --> 02:26:47,720
Speaker 4: that movie with the fucking the Fox and the Hound

3681
02:26:48,480 --> 02:26:49,959
Speaker 4: When the Mom gets killed and you're.

3682
02:26:49,879 --> 02:26:51,920
Speaker 1: Like, dam like you feel emotion like that, and of

3683
02:26:52,000 --> 02:26:52,959
Speaker 1: all the things to take him out of.

3684
02:26:56,560 --> 02:26:58,720
Speaker 4: Wild, bro, you know what I'm saying. But like it

3685
02:26:58,879 --> 02:27:01,320
Speaker 4: was like he was coming towards us. I was literally

3686
02:27:01,360 --> 02:27:03,880
Speaker 4: like sitting parallel just watching Joe, Like that's how you

3687
02:27:03,959 --> 02:27:05,480
Speaker 4: know you're that good. I'm on the sidelines a'fter I

3688
02:27:05,520 --> 02:27:07,680
Speaker 4: get whatever the coaching notes or or whatever, I go

3689
02:27:07,840 --> 02:27:10,280
Speaker 4: in the on the side, I'm watching him play, just

3690
02:27:10,320 --> 02:27:12,600
Speaker 4: to watch this. It's Joe Thomas and it goes down

3691
02:27:12,640 --> 02:27:15,880
Speaker 4: and I'm like, fuck, dude, that's wild. Just crazy that

3692
02:27:16,560 --> 02:27:19,000
Speaker 4: he did it for so long. I have that many reps,

3693
02:27:19,040 --> 02:27:22,959
Speaker 4: ten thousand whatever reps. Yeah, just wild on a terrible team.

3694
02:27:23,280 --> 02:27:25,600
Speaker 4: A terrible team, you know what I mean. I don't

3695
02:27:25,600 --> 02:27:26,960
Speaker 4: know if you talk about this on your podcast, but

3696
02:27:27,000 --> 02:27:29,240
Speaker 4: I heard he was gonna get traded to Denver the

3697
02:27:29,360 --> 02:27:31,600
Speaker 4: year they won a Super Bowl. Really and then I

3698
02:27:32,120 --> 02:27:33,720
Speaker 4: this is all he said, she said stuff. I have

3699
02:27:33,840 --> 02:27:35,960
Speaker 4: no idea, but apparently he went to the GM and

3700
02:27:36,000 --> 02:27:37,480
Speaker 4: I was like, please don't trade me. I want to

3701
02:27:37,600 --> 02:27:39,320
Speaker 4: I want to be here, and then they put in

3702
02:27:39,400 --> 02:27:41,600
Speaker 4: the form like three minutes late. So it never actually

3703
02:27:41,680 --> 02:27:44,840
Speaker 4: the transition transaction never happened. Wow, we won a super Bowl.

3704
02:27:45,080 --> 02:27:47,120
Speaker 1: That'd be a cool story. I know, I wonder if

3705
02:27:47,160 --> 02:27:47,560
Speaker 1: that's true.

3706
02:27:47,680 --> 02:27:49,400
Speaker 5: But playing in the same spot your whole career, Like

3707
02:27:49,440 --> 02:27:52,400
Speaker 5: there's something to that that's so cool that it's different

3708
02:27:52,400 --> 02:27:54,800
Speaker 5: because I think they made the playoffs one year. But

3709
02:27:55,440 --> 02:27:57,400
Speaker 5: like for me, like I couldn't leave Buffalo and then

3710
02:27:57,440 --> 02:27:59,840
Speaker 5: have them make the playoffs without me, Like that would

3711
02:28:00,280 --> 02:28:02,160
Speaker 5: if I was still playing and Buffalo made the playoffs

3712
02:28:02,160 --> 02:28:02,720
Speaker 5: and I wasn't.

3713
02:28:02,560 --> 02:28:04,800
Speaker 1: There for it, like that would have crushed me.

3714
02:28:05,040 --> 02:28:06,320
Speaker 4: I know, I know we got to go, but like,

3715
02:28:06,600 --> 02:28:08,600
Speaker 4: how are you gonna feel if the well Titans win

3716
02:28:08,640 --> 02:28:10,480
Speaker 4: the Super Bowl this year? But like if the Bill

3717
02:28:10,520 --> 02:28:12,320
Speaker 4: has ever beat the Titans for a Super Bowl, Like,

3718
02:28:12,320 --> 02:28:13,440
Speaker 4: how is that going to make you feel?

3719
02:28:14,520 --> 02:28:16,760
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm a static for them in success now,

3720
02:28:16,840 --> 02:28:18,560
Speaker 5: Like I have no ill will. That's part of the

3721
02:28:18,760 --> 02:28:20,280
Speaker 5: that's one of the good things about like your career

3722
02:28:20,320 --> 02:28:22,960
Speaker 5: aning the way mine did, Like there's no chance to

3723
02:28:23,040 --> 02:28:25,160
Speaker 5: be coming back. I didn't walk away, right, so like

3724
02:28:25,440 --> 02:28:27,280
Speaker 5: I can truly just root on those guys, and I

3725
02:28:27,360 --> 02:28:30,240
Speaker 5: love those dudes, like Brandon Bean's Like we we've talked

3726
02:28:30,280 --> 02:28:32,240
Speaker 5: about you know what happens when we went in the

3727
02:28:32,280 --> 02:28:34,560
Speaker 5: Super Bowl, Like am I in the longer room like

3728
02:28:34,640 --> 02:28:37,000
Speaker 5: am my parties and it's like you're.

3729
02:28:36,959 --> 02:28:41,280
Speaker 1: Everywhere I am. I'm like, I love you, b Yeah,

3730
02:28:41,640 --> 02:28:45,000
Speaker 1: get a ring. It does better you get a ring.

3731
02:28:45,520 --> 02:28:48,800
Speaker 1: That'd be hard. Yeah, that ring is the coolest thing. Yeah,

3732
02:28:48,840 --> 02:28:50,920
Speaker 1: it does suck. Thinking like the team you just left,

3733
02:28:51,000 --> 02:28:53,640
Speaker 1: like if they do well, well, I was. I was

3734
02:28:53,720 --> 02:28:57,400
Speaker 1: extended to be Josh Allen's center.

3735
02:28:57,520 --> 02:28:59,040
Speaker 5: Like they knew they were going to draft a quarterback

3736
02:28:59,080 --> 02:29:01,000
Speaker 5: high the next year, so they extended me to be

3737
02:29:01,120 --> 02:29:04,840
Speaker 5: like his mentor essentially, which would have been super tight

3738
02:29:04,920 --> 02:29:07,080
Speaker 5: to like, yeah, one day walk away and then you

3739
02:29:07,200 --> 02:29:08,560
Speaker 5: like poured into someone like Josh.

3740
02:29:08,720 --> 02:29:10,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was just got all the talent in the world.

3741
02:29:11,040 --> 02:29:13,800
Speaker 4: He's unbeliev Yeah, he's unreal. Yeah that's awesome.

3742
02:29:14,080 --> 02:29:15,800
Speaker 1: Well appreciate you, bro. Now, well now we'll go ahead

3743
02:29:15,800 --> 02:29:18,080
Speaker 1: and in this one for yeah, for real real, Yeah,

3744
02:29:18,360 --> 02:29:19,680
Speaker 1: I'm putting the mic on beer.