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Speaker 3: our host, William Earl Compton the Third. He's sent me
Speaker 3: a nice little text message around five pm. Hey, one
Speaker 3: hundred and three degree fever.
Speaker 4: I'm dying.
Speaker 3: I can't sleep, my throat's closing up.
Speaker 4: What's going on.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna trying to make it to work tomorrow. I
Speaker 3: hit the quick pause button on that Jeremy Clump. He's
Speaker 3: got a young baby at home. Myself. I got a
Speaker 3: ten day old at home at this point, so it's like,
Speaker 3: do whatever you gotta do, but dude, it in your
Speaker 3: own time, in your own location. But because we're not
Speaker 3: gonna have it, so we took out Will and we
Speaker 3: brought in just an absolute legend of the game. College
Speaker 3: football is right around the corner. You see his tweets
Speaker 3: every Saturday, counting him down. When it comes to the cornfields,
Speaker 3: He's sitting there looking up Brandon Walker out there trying
Speaker 3: to take his game and make it his own. He
Speaker 3: is the commissioner of college football. He's the one, the
Speaker 3: only Joshua pay give him around of a blah. It's
Speaker 3: an honor to have you on the bus once again.
Speaker 6: You know, I'm happy to be here. I know you
Speaker 6: are always happy.
Speaker 4: To be here.
Speaker 3: This is I wouldn't say your number one favorite stop
Speaker 3: in July, however, a favorite top twenty, top one hundred
Speaker 3: stop in July.
Speaker 6: I first thing Monday morning is Compton text. Second thing
Speaker 6: Monday morning, as we you and I recording, is you
Speaker 6: caught that this morning talking about my favorite stops in July. Yeah,
Speaker 6: that's the steam Boots are important though you don't need one.
Speaker 6: You don't need one relationships, self esteem, butush, you got
Speaker 6: to find the people out there in the world that
Speaker 6: need a little juice and you give it to them
Speaker 6: and they'll remember it forever. Yeah, and that's what's important.
Speaker 6: It is so I'm happy to be here. I just
Speaker 6: hate the circumstances.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you've had a lot going on the last couple
Speaker 3: of weeks. One thing for sure is that there was
Speaker 3: news in a universe that we used to live in
Speaker 3: where a guy is leaving a show and starting his
Speaker 3: own show. I don't know if this is the two
Speaker 3: point zero version or not, but Brendan Walker has said
Speaker 3: that he is doing his own college football show.
Speaker 4: Yes.
Speaker 3: Since then, he's kind of taking a weird approach of
Speaker 3: I don't know if he's mocking you, if he's trying
Speaker 3: to duplicate you, if he's doing all the thing he
Speaker 3: just sees what you're doing. Is I'm gonna do that?
Speaker 3: Let me get an AI version of myself with a
Speaker 3: stronger chin than a video of a cornfield. How does
Speaker 3: that make you feel? I guess is what I'm asking.
Speaker 5: Boy.
Speaker 6: It's got to be how McDonald's felt when Burger King
Speaker 6: popped up on the street corner. But the thing about
Speaker 6: that burger king does great, They do well, they do wonderful,
Speaker 6: and they make tons of money every year. Yeah, not McDonald's.
Speaker 6: Who is, no one who is? So Mima always told me,
Speaker 6: you know, you want to know if you're a leader,
Speaker 6: look over your shoulder, and I look over my shoulder.
Speaker 6: It's not ideal to see Brandon Walker but at least
Speaker 6: someone's behind me.
Speaker 3: At least someone's there. Yeah, that's got to be It's interesting.
Speaker 3: It's like, Okay, I have a fun follower. That's exciting,
Speaker 3: but also it's that guy and that can be tough sometimes, Right,
Speaker 3: you don't get to choose who follows you.
Speaker 6: No, you don't. You don't have that, but you need
Speaker 6: to acknowledge it. It's got to be tough. It's got
Speaker 6: to be a pressure cooker for him though. You know,
Speaker 6: it's one thing if if you can be on camera
Speaker 6: and you got a lot of other people to support
Speaker 6: you and help you out, and you're there on Friday night,
Speaker 6: Saturday night, Sunday night, Casey's there, t Bob's there, whoever's there,
Speaker 6: because if you screw up, you can just throw it
Speaker 6: off on them. But when you go solo, like you
Speaker 6: almost had to do today, when you go solo, it's
Speaker 6: you sink or swim because of you. You succeed or
Speaker 6: fail because of yourself. And if you've got the endless
Speaker 6: resources that he's going to have to work with up.
Speaker 3: There, if you fail, it's one hundred percent on you.
Speaker 6: Do you even show your face anymore?
Speaker 3: Man in the arena, Man in the arena. Brenda Walker
Speaker 3: staring down the barrel of a very very high caliber
Speaker 3: gun going into this falls.
Speaker 6: What you're saying figuratively.
Speaker 3: Figuratively, not literally, not literally, dude, football is six weeks away.
Speaker 6: Unbelievable.
Speaker 3: I can't believe it's almost here. I remember getting juiced
Speaker 3: up just below the waistline when I saw you posting
Speaker 3: eleven weeks away. I was like, oh my god, look
Speaker 3: at this. Yep, it's really so close. And now truly,
Speaker 3: after this week, we're in August. We're essentially one month
Speaker 3: away from the greatest four or five months of our
Speaker 3: entire life.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I never used to take July off.
Speaker 6: Now I'm gonna go. I'm not gonna go as far
Speaker 6: as I took it off because I've done a lot
Speaker 6: of work in July. I've had the sleeves rolled up
Speaker 6: in July. It's just been a lot of behind the
Speaker 6: curtain stuff. But I always thought, well, if you took
Speaker 6: a month and you didn't do a show, would that
Speaker 6: be like folding the hose pipe in the garden and
Speaker 6: then once you let the hosepipe go, the water just
Speaker 6: sprays everywhere? Or would people just forget about you? How
Speaker 6: long would July feel. I feel like July has felt
Speaker 6: every bit as long as the twenty six twenty seven
Speaker 6: ish days that we are into it so far. Went
Speaker 6: to the beach for the first time, that took a
Speaker 6: vacation for the first time in five years.
Speaker 4: Five years.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I did not take a vacation day. So we
Speaker 6: built the show up for five years. It's time to
Speaker 6: take a little bit of a vacation. Hit some media
Speaker 6: days last week in Tampa. Got a few more stops
Speaker 6: up my sleeve, if you will, before we hit the
Speaker 6: ground run and start the show's season next week. But
Speaker 6: July has been very as you can see, it's been
Speaker 6: very eclectic for me.
Speaker 4: You look WestEd, you look.
Speaker 3: Like you've gotten what you've needed out of that five
Speaker 3: year stint and get a little break, and you look
Speaker 3: like you're ready for another five years straight.
Speaker 5: Dude.
Speaker 3: One thing that I have a hard time with vacations
Speaker 3: like I always go, We'll go down to the beach
Speaker 3: like you did, We'll travel to Canada, where my wife
Speaker 3: is from, We'll take the family stuff like that, and
Speaker 3: I do relax during those points. But I don't know
Speaker 3: if you feel away about doing what will and I
Speaker 3: do for a job three sixty five, you kind of
Speaker 3: feel like you don't have to take a vacation. It's
Speaker 3: so much fun. Like there's points like I think when
Speaker 3: you get to that second week in February and the
Speaker 3: Super Bowls there, you're like, Wow, I could really use
Speaker 3: ten days without some football ten days at that point.
Speaker 3: It's crazy to say that now in July, But do
Speaker 3: you ever feel that way doing what you've done and
Speaker 3: hearing you last time you were on the show doing
Speaker 3: the CBS sitting in the car talking to yourself. They
Speaker 3: walk in segments on the radio, you turn it down,
Speaker 3: so you just kind of finished a segment and getting
Speaker 3: to that point now to where you are now, does
Speaker 3: it feel like you work or does it feel like, Yo,
Speaker 3: this is awesome.
Speaker 6: It is a lot different if you do something you
Speaker 6: like to do for a living or if you love
Speaker 6: to do it for a living. Yeah, you don't long
Speaker 6: for that two week stretch the same way that maybe,
Speaker 6: like I would have if I were working former jobs
Speaker 6: I used to work. That was horrible.
Speaker 4: That was manstream media death March, not even.
Speaker 6: That before that. Hey, at least in media, at least
Speaker 6: you're kind of covering what you love. Even if you're
Speaker 6: not doing it on your terms all the time. But
Speaker 6: this is it was mainly like when you're gone. If
Speaker 6: I'm going seventy two hours, okay, but anything beyond three days,
Speaker 6: you start to think, what is this itch? One of
Speaker 6: my kneecaps, one of my elbows feel a little itchy
Speaker 6: the pre workout I just took. What is that? Well,
Speaker 6: it's kind of missing out because you've never taken a
Speaker 6: seventy two hour chunk and been silent about college football
Speaker 6: in the past half decade, So that that that's a
Speaker 6: little bit of a got to got to peel away.
Speaker 6: Sometimes you got to pop out on the deck, answer
Speaker 6: some emails, maybe fire some tweets off, check the YouTube analytics,
Speaker 6: maybe post a short you had saved in drafts for
Speaker 6: a rainy.
Speaker 3: Day, just put something out there to see if you
Speaker 3: still have it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you remember?
Speaker 3: Do people understand what's going to take place this faar?
Speaker 3: Have they forgotten about me already?
Speaker 6: I hope they understand?
Speaker 3: How they do?
Speaker 6: I don't think they do. I don't even think we understand.
Speaker 4: We definitely don't.
Speaker 3: I saw some crazy rumors last week too, Internet, and
Speaker 3: I know, like usually when shows get into things are like, Oh,
Speaker 3: the juiciest these two guys. They want to talk about
Speaker 3: the one subject that came up about them. They should
Speaker 3: leave it to the end of the show, so people
Speaker 3: stayed longer and they want to know that information. We're
Speaker 3: not good at our shows. Well I'm not good at
Speaker 3: the show. So what was your What was your thought
Speaker 3: process when you saw a crazy article come out about
Speaker 3: the legendary one of one Josh pay who owns the
Speaker 3: area of college football and is the next great thing
Speaker 3: plus Busting with the Boys has their own show on ESPN.
Speaker 6: Well, I assume that you're talking about things that sort
Speaker 6: of semi broke last week in the rumor mill. You
Speaker 6: know how the internet and media can be. I'll just
Speaker 6: say this. I saw those reports just like you did.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I thought to myself self, if there's validity to those reports, Wow,
Speaker 6: what a concept. Wow, what a time those guys could have,
Speaker 6: right if those reports are real. Now, only if those
Speaker 6: reports are real, we understand how to qualify all reports
Speaker 6: with the word allegedly. There's a lot of hearsay, there's
Speaker 6: a lot of innuendo out there. But all I'm saying
Speaker 6: is college football is the number two sport in this
Speaker 6: country and said network that the reports linked those three
Speaker 6: men to, it's the biggest sports media network on the
Speaker 6: planet in the world. So if that sports media network conglomerate,
Speaker 6: if you will, behemoth, Yep, we're to lean more into
Speaker 6: college football. It's got to be a win for America.
Speaker 6: Not just for the people involved, it's got to be
Speaker 6: a win for America.
Speaker 3: I mean, my god. Yeah, Like, allegedly, if this show
Speaker 3: were to take place, this would be the biggest win
Speaker 3: America seeing the last two hundred and fifty years.
Speaker 6: Now here's what wouldn't be a win. Okay, if it's
Speaker 6: just a whole bunch of frat bro culture sprayed all
Speaker 6: over your TV screen, that's disgusting you.
Speaker 3: If allegedly, if those three individuals were to have a
Speaker 3: show to essentially save America, it was just called the
Speaker 3: show Save America. You would want to have three guys
Speaker 3: having a great time, a fun time where you feel
Speaker 3: like you're watching from your couches, from your bar, wherever
Speaker 3: it is, being like, I also feel like I'm invested
Speaker 3: in this conversation while also having some sort of education
Speaker 3: taking place of what's going to happen that Saturday.
Speaker 6: I want to tell you what I miss Tell me
Speaker 6: what you missed it?
Speaker 4: I miss?
Speaker 3: Hey quick ten second time out. We just we just
Speaker 3: got Will Compton shirtless in a.
Speaker 4: In a room.
Speaker 5: That's what That's what we don't want.
Speaker 3: That's that's frat boy culture. We can't have that. But
Speaker 3: that's a good example of show people what we shouldn't have.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we don't want that.
Speaker 6: We don't want the away from that. There's already enough
Speaker 6: of that right out in the ecosphere too much. Wrapp
Speaker 6: don't need that. Right got to meet a standard that's
Speaker 6: not the standard. Right, although that young man fully clothed
Speaker 6: may help the overall product meet the standard.
Speaker 3: I agree with everything you just said. I'll tell you
Speaker 3: what this is and let's just stay on this photo
Speaker 3: for one more second. The difference between Will's front side
Speaker 3: and his backside are two totally different Wills.
Speaker 6: Oh, where are you going with that?
Speaker 3: Well, we're not going to focus on the front side
Speaker 3: because we're not going to be nasty on this show.
Speaker 3: But the backside of Will, he's got some like the backstrap,
Speaker 3: you know when you wap somebody up and he kind
Speaker 3: of hit their mid back. He's got that muscles. Holyh
Speaker 3: it's a classic recruiting visitor.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, when bo Polini grabbed Will's back, he knew right
Speaker 3: then and there he had offered Will compan a scholarship.
Speaker 3: That's all I'll say. And that is educational and fun.
Speaker 3: And that's an example of what this show would allegedly be.
Speaker 6: It is great that it says fresh produce right above
Speaker 6: its head correctly.
Speaker 3: A clean take, include that the clean does the Kevinsazial
Speaker 3: Foods clean take at the Kevinsaual Foods clean take right there.
Speaker 6: But you were saying Fridays Fridays. Everybody knows about Saturdays,
Speaker 6: but Fridays in the fall. You got to understand, go
Speaker 6: back to yourself as a child, because we don't want
Speaker 6: to lose the spirit of childlike wonder on any show
Speaker 6: that you're going to allegedly put on on Fridays revolving
Speaker 6: around the greatest sport in the world, which to people
Speaker 6: like me is college football. The Friday is the it's
Speaker 6: the build. The Friday is the shaking up of the
Speaker 6: Saturday coke bottle. And you can feel the pressure building.
Speaker 6: People coming into town, families, kids checking out of school early.
Speaker 6: Let's hit the road. We got to get to the
Speaker 6: tailgate we got to go see our friends that we
Speaker 6: see maybe eight weekends out of the year, and you
Speaker 6: see that line of cars looks like red ants just
Speaker 6: marching into town at night. I want to show this
Speaker 6: stuff's going to happen allegedly, allegedly. I want to show
Speaker 6: that captures that the vibe of Friday, the vibe of
Speaker 6: T minus twenty four hours, twenty one hours, seventeen hours.
Speaker 6: And it may be all quiet right now, but when
Speaker 6: that clock hits zero tomorrow, it's going to be all
Speaker 6: out chaos. God, something needs to encapsulate that feeling. Not
Speaker 6: fret boy culture. No, no, we don't want that in
Speaker 6: our face. We don't want What we want in our
Speaker 6: face is a good, solid Friday hang with guys who
Speaker 6: get it, for other people who get it.
Speaker 3: My god, something that just bottles everything up and lets
Speaker 3: you know, yeah, we're not the exact party taking place,
Speaker 3: because we the party is these two schools that are
Speaker 3: going at it. Let's just say allegedly we're on location,
Speaker 3: but let's have a little pregame. Well, we get to
Speaker 3: have a whole full conversation about what's to come of
Speaker 3: the night. Every time you remember being college, we all
Speaker 3: remember being college. And not to bring a frat boy
Speaker 3: culture into this, but a good position of frat boy
Speaker 3: culture is sometimes the pregame is the best thing because
Speaker 3: it's the expectation, the excitement that takes place about what
Speaker 3: could possibly happen. And if there's a place, a family
Speaker 3: friendly place that these line of red ants can take
Speaker 3: and come and park their cars right behind three gentlemen
Speaker 3: who get it, understand it, and love it, get to
Speaker 3: talk about the expectation and the excitement of the next
Speaker 3: twenty four hours. My god, I mean talk about save
Speaker 3: in America's talk about saving the economy. This woman who
Speaker 3: needs a straight up her moose. When you have a
Speaker 3: show like that.
Speaker 5: Crime rate, crime rates plumbting.
Speaker 4: Any.
Speaker 3: Crime rate is plummeting, plumbering. We should but listen, this
Speaker 3: is all allegedly it is. And the last thing we
Speaker 3: want to do for the fans of our show, the
Speaker 3: fans of Josh Paige show, is to give them too
Speaker 3: much hope. Right, We always want to have a little
Speaker 3: bit of that because that's what keeps us moving in life.
Speaker 3: All right, But let's just let's jump off, let's get
Speaker 3: off that subject, let's get away from it. Surem, did
Speaker 3: you have something.
Speaker 5: Just one last thing. This is daydreaming.
Speaker 4: We're daydreaming.
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is like, Oh, wouldn't it be fun if
Speaker 5: you guys would like be talking to people at the
Speaker 5: schools associated with the teams, stuff like that, having fun
Speaker 5: conversations if that were to happen, if you were to
Speaker 5: be there on Fridays.
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm sure if anyone was on a campus
Speaker 6: on a Friday before a big time game the next day,
Speaker 6: I'm sure you would meet the challenge of loading that
Speaker 6: college football adjacent show up with as much meat as possible.
Speaker 6: You are the bone. It's up to you to put
Speaker 6: the meat on it right day in and day out.
Speaker 6: College football is the meat.
Speaker 5: That would be fun, right, That would be fun.
Speaker 3: And we're not sitting here think we're going to save everything.
Speaker 3: We're just a vessel in order to save everything. Yeah, allegedly,
Speaker 3: thank you, Jared. Allegedly. Let's get us some callbacks? Huh?
Speaker 4: Shall we?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Some callbacks?
Speaker 3: Do you feel good about that?
Speaker 6: I feel great about you.
Speaker 3: Obviously, are a huge fan of show. You watch every
Speaker 3: single week we do callbacks, so we have fans who
Speaker 3: go and watch the previous show. The previous show last
Speaker 3: week was Clay, Matthews, Delaney Walker, and Will Compton. I
Speaker 3: was out, I was where was I?
Speaker 4: I had a baby?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I had a child that has actually not officially
Speaker 3: been announced.
Speaker 4: But I have a baby. Now.
Speaker 3: Oh we can call out, we can go we you know,
Speaker 3: kind of keep the you know, the privacy there. You know,
Speaker 3: she's doing help, she's healthy, all the things. But the
Speaker 3: first tier talk comes from, uh can you zoom in
Speaker 3: on that a little bit? These eyes? These eyes? Yeah yeah.
Speaker 3: Shaw Lacroix fifty two eighty two says need more Delaney
Speaker 3: Clay content country Living with the Boys.
Speaker 4: Working title.
Speaker 3: Everything's always a working title until it's not, until it's
Speaker 3: you know, fine print put in pend I love the idea.
Speaker 3: I think anytime Delaney Walker, you see it with the
Speaker 3: Mitch and Delaney doing the motocross stuff, it's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: this guys, you've been around him. Yeah, he's a fun guy.
Speaker 3: He checks a lot of boxes for you. He gets
Speaker 3: after it in a lot of way. The guys are unbelievable.
Speaker 3: So the more content, Oh you're not gonna let me
Speaker 3: just skim over that.
Speaker 5: Let me just skim over that?
Speaker 3: What do I mean by that? Checks a lot of boxes? Dude,
Speaker 3: he's smart, he's fun to be around. He's done well
Speaker 3: for himself, so it's not about the money for him,
Speaker 3: it's about the content. Well, well you guys that I
Speaker 3: was saying.
Speaker 5: That's it?
Speaker 4: Literally, Oh yeah, yeah, No.
Speaker 5: Great great person to just to be around.
Speaker 3: Right, great guy to be around.
Speaker 5: That's a he's a tied end, so he like blocked and.
Speaker 3: Caught, so you can do it all. Yeah, blocked and
Speaker 3: cott is a great way to say. That's what a
Speaker 3: tied end does. Checks a lot of boxes. Understands busting culture,
Speaker 3: understands busting culture.
Speaker 6: Which is not frat boyd culture. No, that's not what
Speaker 6: that is.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 3: See what I'm getting skind of nervous about is you
Speaker 3: keep saying for a bloid culture like someone's talking about
Speaker 3: fra Bloyd culture. If something happening in the university, I
Speaker 3: don't know about it.
Speaker 6: All I want to tell you is and this is
Speaker 6: in the world where this is in the world of allegedly. Okay,
Speaker 6: this isn't the world adjacent to reality.
Speaker 3: I can't be mad at anything this is allegedly.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna let you decide whether you could be mad.
Speaker 6: Just some allegations get thrown out proactive allegation, allegations of
Speaker 6: things that haven't even happened yet, Like what descriptors of
Speaker 6: shows that haven't even aired yet? Are you serious of
Speaker 6: people who you haven't even met yet? Are you people
Speaker 6: that don't know me as a person. And I didn't
Speaker 6: even say you, you said you, You just assumed it's
Speaker 6: about you.
Speaker 3: I just that's main character syndrome. That's just kind of
Speaker 3: the world I live it. I can't can't blame myself
Speaker 3: or I was brought up.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 6: I just think it's a shame when it happens.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say that, you know, allegedly, if we're
Speaker 3: gonna live in this world, all I would say to that,
Speaker 3: if there are people throwing around things that may or
Speaker 3: may not be about me or well Confident or this show,
Speaker 3: and allegedly other things that might take place in the fall,
Speaker 3: it just shows us how much more we need football, right,
Speaker 3: And that's the thing that you brought up shore. When
Speaker 3: the nastiness you see June July, people get a little
Speaker 3: more oneryeple, cutting off people more on the highway.
Speaker 6: Not even their fault.
Speaker 3: People are running around, it's not not even their fault,
Speaker 3: not their fault the bad things that are happening in
Speaker 3: the summertime to an extent, right, because you got to
Speaker 3: cover your basis to an extent is because we don't
Speaker 3: have football back in our lives.
Speaker 4: You'll blame it on the heat. They will on the heat.
Speaker 4: They will, they will.
Speaker 6: You know, penicillin, some people say is the greatest medicine.
Speaker 6: September is the greatest medicine.
Speaker 4: That's a good point.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you allergic to September.
Speaker 3: I'm not allergic September, but I am penicilla. I'm allergic
Speaker 3: this one coachroma dude thirty three six, A yo, no, lie,
Speaker 3: I'd watch a mow off between Delaney and Clay. That
Speaker 3: should be fire. That should be fire, says Do thirty
Speaker 3: three oh six. I love that, dude, I love that.
Speaker 3: I literally there's nothing. Yeah, that's a ten to ten
Speaker 3: no notes. I could sit there and be and try
Speaker 3: to break that down. But if they should be fire,
Speaker 3: watching a couple of guys cut some grass, make taller
Speaker 3: grass shorter. Hey, do your thing. I'm in the Campbellville Compton.
Speaker 4: I'm not.
Speaker 3: I'm not in this world to cut grass. I'm not
Speaker 3: here to do that. And caught some heat, are you
Speaker 3: gras you cut the grass, Jo Josh is not a
Speaker 3: grass cutting guy.
Speaker 6: I'm the kind of guy who looks around at various
Speaker 6: state parks and public property areas in and around our
Speaker 6: wonderful community and say, if my tax dollars are otherwise
Speaker 6: going to cut that patch of land and the public's
Speaker 6: calling for a mow off, why not kill two birds
Speaker 6: with one stone. I see a business opportunity. I see
Speaker 6: am mayoral platform pillar. When I see that, that's what
Speaker 6: I see.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what, dude, it's so unbelievable to get
Speaker 3: a guy on this show who's never taken a headshot
Speaker 3: in his life.
Speaker 4: This is either way your brand operates.
Speaker 3: It's beautiful. Did you just start saying things? I'm like,
Speaker 3: holy shit, idea, it's a good idea.
Speaker 7: Mayoral platform just perfectly doesn't answer zero prompt to that
Speaker 7: at all. Do you like to you know what, dude,
Speaker 7: our tax dollars should be used for guys to have
Speaker 7: mo offs. That should be what's going on here? Or
Speaker 7: say the tax dollars whatever we was really trying to
Speaker 7: get in here.
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 3: See Wilder fifteen seventy six says no context. Adam Ray
Speaker 3: Francis Elis and Josh Peyton.
Speaker 6: Now you need to explain that one to me because
Speaker 6: this I looked at it and I said, that's a
Speaker 6: nice thing to say. But then when we looked at
Speaker 6: it earlier, you said you have no idea. Well, how
Speaker 6: lofty this compliment.
Speaker 3: I didn't know what this meant either.
Speaker 5: We asked for.
Speaker 4: Give us your best episodes.
Speaker 3: Okay, so this is for the best episodes that this
Speaker 3: individual has witnessed on Busting with the boards. Keep in
Speaker 3: mind this is episode three hundred and ninety one, close
Speaker 3: to four hundred, close to that's very good. You're good
Speaker 3: at math as well. So when you this guy goes,
Speaker 3: these are the three people that come to mind. Adam Ray,
Speaker 3: I think we got on there and it was a
Speaker 3: giggly bits time the entire time. It was ninety minutes
Speaker 3: to two hours of just him being funny. I think
Speaker 3: we're all the three of us collectively chemistry. Why this
Speaker 3: was in the flow state. It was beautiful. Francis Ellis.
Speaker 3: I believe Jared, you're a number one fan of Francis
Speaker 3: ELA's correct.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was a good one.
Speaker 3: And that's not even a shot.
Speaker 4: That's just like I thought I was biased because I
Speaker 4: love it right you were.
Speaker 3: To talking about a guy that episode. He's got an
Speaker 3: unbelievable vocabulary, the way he tells stories. He's obviously in
Speaker 3: the comedy right now. He's part of the barstool universe.
Speaker 3: The stories he was telling about Dave when he got
Speaker 3: fired and brought back, Like, Francis Ellis is a guy
Speaker 3: that you can listen.
Speaker 6: Oh no, it's okay, you'll understand locky going.
Speaker 3: Francis Ellis is a guy that you want to sit
Speaker 3: down and listen to for hours and hours. And then
Speaker 3: Joshua pet I mean time, how many times have you
Speaker 3: been on the show?
Speaker 6: Is this three? On on busting? Is this three?
Speaker 5: Three or four?
Speaker 8: Because you did the ice Smageddon or whatever we called
Speaker 8: it that one episode Ice mcgeddon.
Speaker 3: He's also done a couple of college football recaps.
Speaker 6: I forgot about Ice mcgeddon where I fled Columbus. I
Speaker 6: wasn't even here.
Speaker 3: You did run away about josh Goes mister weather guy himself.
Speaker 3: We're batting down the hatches, we're looking around for who's
Speaker 3: gonna be side by side in the trenches with us,
Speaker 3: And you're going, I'm didn't I tell you ahead of time?
Speaker 3: You told me about a week and a half. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm gone because you're on those day of monitors that
Speaker 3: know exactly what's happening. And there was a fun time
Speaker 3: of us uh talking back and forth about where the
Speaker 3: line is for the ice and the snow, and you
Speaker 3: were hoping that the line would dip south a little
Speaker 3: bit more so Nashville'll be more snow covered, a little
Speaker 3: more snow day asque not snow. Mcgeddon. That took place
Speaker 3: and had over five hundred thousand people without power. We
Speaker 3: I mean me personally, I didn't have power for ten days,
Speaker 3: ten whole days.
Speaker 4: Generator.
Speaker 3: It was worth every penny like that generator was extremely expensive.
Speaker 3: And dude, I've told this story one of my neighbors.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you've heard this. One of my neighbors.
Speaker 3: He has a U a pacemaker type of thing. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you told me, okay, and it goes up here was
Speaker 3: his life. Yeah, okay, So as long as you know
Speaker 3: I'm a hero, Okay, that's it. But we shouldn't talk
Speaker 3: about how many times you've been on here. We shuld
Speaker 3: talk about the quality of times you've been on here.
Speaker 3: And if I'm going to say, what is one of
Speaker 3: the best stories you've ever heard on Busting with the Boys.
Speaker 3: It's Josh Pate talking about his your grandfather being cremated. Oh,
Speaker 3: Pee Paul, Yeah, Peo Paul being cremated. Wasn't able to
Speaker 3: make it, and then found out years and years later
Speaker 3: that that was forgot.
Speaker 6: I told you that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, isn't that crazy? Yeah, it's kind of nice.
Speaker 7: People were like commenting about it, right, it's I heard
Speaker 7: about it correct.
Speaker 6: I think it's like it's Tri State Crematorium. It's either
Speaker 6: in extreme northern Georgia or extreme southern Tennessee. And so
Speaker 6: like very thirty second condensed version of this For those
Speaker 6: who didn't tune in, shame on you, on you. Pee
Speaker 6: Paul passes away, good man. We lost him a long
Speaker 6: time ago. He wanted to get cremated. He wanted his
Speaker 6: ashes spread in this dream that he used to fish
Speaker 6: in up in the mountains in the Smokies. So we
Speaker 6: get him cremated, We go spread as ashes. Not another
Speaker 6: word is said about it. We go.
Speaker 4: Years later.
Speaker 6: I come home from school one day, my mom braces
Speaker 6: me for some news that's come out, and all over
Speaker 6: every cable news network everything, there's this huge scandal that's
Speaker 6: broken at a place called this Tri State Crematorium, thinks
Speaker 6: what it was called, where they were just throwing bodies
Speaker 6: all over their property in sheds in a lake because
Speaker 6: they're incinerator had busted up, but they were still taking
Speaker 6: bodies in. And there's this I have learned since a
Speaker 6: huge multi episode podcast dedicated to this since you told
Speaker 6: this story. I forget the title of it, but I
Speaker 6: listened to it, okay, And they did a really, really
Speaker 6: good job. So they got two thousand bodies had been
Speaker 6: sent to Tri State, and at some point that dude,
Speaker 6: Ray Brent Marsh took over the business, and his business
Speaker 6: did not consist of burning the bodies and giving back
Speaker 6: the ashes. He was given back ashes. We got ashes,
Speaker 6: but they were not people's ashes, so we spread the ashes.
Speaker 6: Years later, they find people's body still intact, badly decomposed,
Speaker 6: badly decomposed on their property in a shed. So we
Speaker 6: had to get him recremated years later, and we went
Speaker 6: back in respread his ashes.
Speaker 3: Now, you've told this story before, but how many years
Speaker 3: later was this? Several years? Several years later? God, how
Speaker 3: old does it take for a body to decompose? They
Speaker 3: could only I mean I feel like that's there should
Speaker 3: have been enough time to hit us with a skeleton.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 6: Well, here was the thing. He still had his toe
Speaker 6: tag on him.
Speaker 3: That's how they identified it.
Speaker 6: That was literally they didn't need to do the dental
Speaker 6: records thing, although I guess you could do dental records,
Speaker 6: but he's the body still had the tow tags. This
Speaker 6: was not very, very strategically like a well calibrated operation.
Speaker 6: They would just like toss the bodies like garbage wherever
Speaker 6: they could toss them.
Speaker 3: Start a fire out back. Yeah, take the ashes from
Speaker 3: that and put it in a jar.
Speaker 6: Here we have the process of body composition. Speaking of
Speaker 6: college football being right around the corner, Peopaul was past
Speaker 6: the two in fifty day mark there, Pee Pauls down
Speaker 6: there at the bottom down there. If you just if
Speaker 6: you just see gi to toe tag on that skeleton,
Speaker 6: that was people.
Speaker 4: That's kind of scary.
Speaker 3: George Pay, do you believe in ghosts?
Speaker 6: I don't, but I believe that other people do believe
Speaker 6: in them.
Speaker 3: Okay, but you're you're on the probably do not believe
Speaker 3: in ghosts.
Speaker 6: I'm out on ghosts because there's a road called Smith
Speaker 6: Road where I grew up and there was this Korean family.
Speaker 6: You can tell this is gonna be good.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Dad used to drive us to school every morning and
Speaker 6: we would drive past a house. There's a little Korean family.
Speaker 3: They were full of Koreans.
Speaker 6: They were always waiting for the bus. We would wave
Speaker 6: to them every morning. It's one of those instances where
Speaker 6: we never knew their name, but we kind of felt
Speaker 6: like we had a bond with them. The Koreans move away,
Speaker 6: the house just sits there. It never got moved into.
Speaker 6: There was a for sale sign. I kid you not
Speaker 6: at this house for like fifteen years. It never got
Speaker 6: moved into. The forest just swallowed the house. Now, most
Speaker 6: people didn't know the house was back there because even
Speaker 6: though it's only like a hundred and fiftyw hundred freet
Speaker 6: in the road, you can't see it because in Harris County, George,
Speaker 6: the forest grows pretty thick. It's like a rainforest. So
Speaker 6: I grow up, I become like a teenager. I have
Speaker 6: a driver's license at that point, and I think, wait
Speaker 6: a second, that house has got to still be back there.
Speaker 6: So we started planning going back there.
Speaker 4: Quick.
Speaker 6: Puss, Who's we Me and some friends.
Speaker 4: You and your degenerator.
Speaker 6: They are inconsequential. They are not main characters in the story.
Speaker 6: The Koreans aren't e The house is the main character.
Speaker 6: So we would go back in the woods, we find
Speaker 6: the house. We go in the house. It's very clear
Speaker 6: and no one's been in there. Also, I don't think
Speaker 6: that house was up to code it was built. The
Speaker 6: floors were a little tilted, very strange. We go in
Speaker 6: there and there were chalk drawings of like voodoo doll
Speaker 6: looking things on all the walls. So I thought to myself,
Speaker 6: if there was ever gonna be a ghost, it would
Speaker 6: be in here. And nothing ever happened, nothing ever happened.
Speaker 6: What we would do, well, hold on, how long would.
Speaker 3: You spend and the voodoo drawn, vacant house ignorant.
Speaker 6: We spent hours in there, and then the natural thing
Speaker 6: you think is we could really do some damage to
Speaker 6: people psychologically in this place. So we started planting one
Speaker 6: of us in the house ahead of time, and then
Speaker 6: we would take newbies Korean House, abandon Korean House rookies
Speaker 6: out into the house and they would get terrified.
Speaker 3: I thought you'd better say, take Koreans to bring them
Speaker 3: in there. Specifically, find Koreans and bring them into this house.
Speaker 6: Yeah, now that I think about it, it's not even
Speaker 6: important to let you know they were of Korean descent.
Speaker 3: It's just that that's a fun that's a fun detail. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and it kind of makes you they draws you in
Speaker 3: a little bit more. What were these Koreans up to over?
Speaker 4: You know what's said?
Speaker 3: Not like a well you know what I'm saying, not
Speaker 3: like a you know, but like it's fun to kind
Speaker 3: of just know more details of the story.
Speaker 6: And you know what's sad they tore that thing down
Speaker 6: within the last year. No, they just tore it down.
Speaker 3: Why did you buy it? I'm sure it wasn't very
Speaker 3: expensive it was, Yeah, but I mean that's a piece
Speaker 3: of history right there, Josh Pat's life. That's where Josh
Speaker 3: pet definitively decided that the ghosts do not exist. And
Speaker 3: if there's ever a place to make a purchase, it's
Speaker 3: when you figure out whether a ghost or do or
Speaker 3: do not exist to you, I.
Speaker 6: Really regret that now that you mentioned it that way.
Speaker 4: I'm not here to bring regret in your life.
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Speaker 6: When I tell you the house was not up to code,
Speaker 6: I mean it looked like a group of us got
Speaker 6: together with no education and construction and we just built
Speaker 6: a house best way we knew how. Two stories.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, did you ever go upstairs?
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's where the house where comes in.
Speaker 3: Because if we walked into that same house, the same
Speaker 3: style of house, and it was two stories, we'd probably
Speaker 3: get three steps up and go, hey, we probably shouldn't
Speaker 3: do it. Yeah, and they kind of give a little
Speaker 3: more here, a small little crack, and that would be
Speaker 3: enough for us to go, hey, risk is not worth
Speaker 3: the worth the reward here to find out what may
Speaker 3: or may not be up there, Let's not do it.
Speaker 3: But something about being an ignorant teenager, ma'am. But that's
Speaker 3: all it took for you to figure out that ghost
Speaker 3: don't exists.
Speaker 6: That was it. That's what my mind goes to when
Speaker 6: people ask me, like my spectrum of believability of ghosts
Speaker 6: goes right back to if they're not in that old
Speaker 6: Korean abandoned house. Then they're not here.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he would.
Speaker 5: He would be great to bring along any type of
Speaker 5: future ghost hunt that you do, or any type of
Speaker 5: hunted house, because Josh can face down anything. He can
Speaker 5: tell you if it's real or not. That's a good
Speaker 5: kind of advocate to bring.
Speaker 3: He's a good character in a story to be like
Speaker 3: the denier to the end, like any like paranormal movie,
Speaker 3: the conjuring. You see, it's always a dad that's like, no,
Speaker 3: the chairs are supposed to move without anybody in them.
Speaker 3: It's all good, everything's fine. Oh the lights go out
Speaker 3: all the time. His house is not up to code.
Speaker 3: And then finally your daughter's heads spinning around in circles
Speaker 3: and you're like, okay, this is fucked up. That's when
Speaker 3: you get to the point you're like, oh no, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 3: this is bad real estate page whole time.
Speaker 5: We should leave.
Speaker 3: It's like we're staying, all right, these are our roots.
Speaker 3: That's our roots, guy, right there.
Speaker 6: You know, about this time in my life was when
Speaker 6: Blair Witch Project come out, So about the time one
Speaker 6: of the great you're really you're really leaning into that
Speaker 6: whole genre at that point and so Blair in theaters
Speaker 6: and back then, Like, I don't know if if someone's
Speaker 6: twenty years old watching this, you can't possibly understand the
Speaker 6: impact Blair which had on the culture. Yeah, because that
Speaker 6: was like it was at the dawn of the internet culture.
Speaker 6: It was way pre social media culture. It was still
Speaker 6: in a period of time where you could go watch
Speaker 6: a movie a found footage and be convinced what you
Speaker 6: were watching was real. Yes, okay, so you got that
Speaker 6: in the movie theaters. You got an abandoned Korean house
Speaker 6: that the forest has swallowed up. It took some stones
Speaker 6: to go in there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt. I'm not questioning your courage or your
Speaker 3: bravery when it talks of this not up to code
Speaker 3: Korean house.
Speaker 6: Like this this freeze frame if you know, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that is I have chills running through
Speaker 3: my body at this moment, and it also gets me
Speaker 3: kind of excited because I know Spootober.
Speaker 4: Is just a couple of months away.
Speaker 3: I mean, we're sixty five days away right now from Spooktober.
Speaker 4: As we're filming.
Speaker 6: This is what constitutes a make or break Spootober.
Speaker 4: Last year, there's rumblings going around last.
Speaker 3: Year that mitches In said, this whole podcast turned a
Speaker 3: negative town right away. Hey, put the blanker on. We're
Speaker 3: taking a U turn right here. Go ahead, Mitch.
Speaker 4: I mean it's not I just need to be educated.
Speaker 3: I just wanted to give some context.
Speaker 4: So last Spooktober was a little bit of a bit
Speaker 4: of a letdown.
Speaker 3: Flower Fears say, you're true, dude, don't say a little
Speaker 3: bit of a letdown.
Speaker 7: No.
Speaker 4: I like the two Spootober's ago when we did the
Speaker 4: tpeing and all that stuff that was fun last year,
Speaker 4: None of that happened that we the this year is
Speaker 4: just there's a lot that needs to happen from our
Speaker 4: fearless leader from Spootober that to bring it all the
Speaker 4: way back.
Speaker 6: Can I ask you a question, Mitch? Yeah, And I
Speaker 6: just want if you could. I don't want to give
Speaker 6: you orders, but I would ask that you maintained eye
Speaker 6: contact with me and don't look anywhere else. Do you
Speaker 6: feel like twenty twenty five Spootober went a little bit corporate? Corporate? Like,
Speaker 6: did it sell out a little bit? No?
Speaker 4: I don't. I don't think we sold out at all,
Speaker 4: because it's not like we necessarily did anything.
Speaker 6: You say, Weed, but you didn't really have a choice.
Speaker 6: You're just following leadership. It's not your fault. Yeah, it's
Speaker 6: not on you. So I'm asking do you feel like
Speaker 6: you were led in a more corporate direction. I don't
Speaker 6: think we were led in any dirt like there was.
Speaker 6: There was no leadership period. There was just no really direction.
Speaker 6: You were just like I'm not calling you trash, I'm saying,
Speaker 6: but metaphorically, you were trash blowing around the parking lot,
Speaker 6: and you were whichever direction the wind takes you.
Speaker 4: That looking for a direction to keep our Spootober pride
Speaker 4: and going along. Wow, Okay, we bring it back here
Speaker 4: to the set your thoughts.
Speaker 3: Sounds like somebody in the back of his backbone, all right,
Speaker 3: if he's gonna trash in the wind.
Speaker 6: By backbone, do you mean leadership?
Speaker 3: No? No, no, I'm saying, if you see something, you smell something,
Speaker 3: say something, right if we're in if it's a if
Speaker 3: it's Spootober six, can I tell you six day of Spootober.
Speaker 3: Hold on second, let me land this plane for a second, okay,
Speaker 3: because to be fair with you, I don't think I
Speaker 3: don't thinking right now, I don't know where I'm going
Speaker 3: right now. If it's the sixth of Spootober and you
Speaker 3: feel like something's some tom Fooler is a foot when
Speaker 3: it comes to your special holiday that your fearles leader said,
Speaker 3: see something, say something. Absolutely now, to Mitch's point, I'll
Speaker 3: keep eye contact with you and not look at him
Speaker 3: one bit, even though he glanced at Mede a couple
Speaker 3: of times. I failed this company. I failed this company
Speaker 3: last year. I can make all the excuses in the
Speaker 3: world when it comes to what we were doing ESPN
Speaker 3: on Thursdays corporate, and we had a bunch of things
Speaker 3: going on from the Fall tour and all that. I
Speaker 3: did not take it upon myself to make Spootober a
Speaker 3: special month like it always has been and should for
Speaker 3: always always should be. So this year it's on me.
Speaker 3: No one needs to say something, no one needs to
Speaker 3: do anything. I've got it. I'm gonna figure it out.
Speaker 3: You'll be a part of it, don't you worry. Spootober
Speaker 3: is gonna be a very special year this year. It's
Speaker 3: gonna be a very special year this year. And if
Speaker 3: it's not, I'll bend the knee, take my leadership cap off,
Speaker 3: and I'll hand it to somebody else, because that's what
Speaker 3: good leaders. Do they understand why they're not doing enough
Speaker 3: for the company?
Speaker 5: Beautiful?
Speaker 3: And when it comes to spootober.
Speaker 4: No one has said that we're not We don't believe
Speaker 4: in you. No, I know that.
Speaker 3: I think this is true. This is a contract year
Speaker 3: for me?
Speaker 6: Is this is?
Speaker 3: This is I just signed? Yeah, this is this is
Speaker 3: It's my sixth year in the league. It hasn't gone
Speaker 3: my way to the last couple of years. I get
Speaker 3: cut and I just signed with the Pittsburgh Steelers on
Speaker 3: a prove it deal. I'm an approved deal right now?
Speaker 3: Is he gonna be what he was before? Or is
Speaker 3: this the last u c of Taylor Lawan and spoot Obra.
Speaker 3: And that's perfectly fine. Put that on my shoulders as
Speaker 3: I deserve it.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: A lot of things coming up allegedly this fall. Is
Speaker 3: that gonna sway me anyway? Absolutely not. I will tank
Speaker 3: every show that I do to make sure that Spootobra
Speaker 3: is good this year. I will not prep for anything, dude,
Speaker 3: to make sure that spoot Obra is good this year.
Speaker 3: Look at me, you got me? I love that second
Speaker 3: hand man. Who's my right hand man?
Speaker 4: Is that you?
Speaker 3: Also?
Speaker 4: That's you? Also?
Speaker 3: I don't know if Josh's gonna have to take the
Speaker 3: first door the first thing. But you're second tier one.
Speaker 3: You technically could have both.
Speaker 5: You could have the right hand man and a second
Speaker 5: hand man.
Speaker 3: Right hand man, see right there. So anyway, I believe
Speaker 3: in ghosts. Yeah, oh wow, yeah I do. I think
Speaker 3: they're real.
Speaker 8: Yes, just have a fun little breaking news, uh to
Speaker 8: to get the vibes up here with Dan Orlovsky.
Speaker 3: Oh shit, that's not real? Is that Ai?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 8: No, this is on Get Up This Morning? No, it's
Speaker 8: not Danlovsky.
Speaker 4: That's fake.
Speaker 5: It's not fake.
Speaker 6: Wait. Oh that's the ear ring.
Speaker 4: The ear ring.
Speaker 5: The ear ring is in.
Speaker 6: He wore it so big. People think it's fake.
Speaker 3: It's a genius move by Dan.
Speaker 8: Is a I didn't look hard enough into it. I
Speaker 8: think it's just I think it's a real earring. But
Speaker 8: breaking news.
Speaker 3: Well, okay, before I was literally about to call Dan
Speaker 3: right now.
Speaker 5: He's gonably live on ESPN right now.
Speaker 6: It doesn't matter, It.
Speaker 3: Doesn't matter at all.
Speaker 4: You're right.
Speaker 3: Actually, now that I know he might be live on ESPN,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna call him.
Speaker 6: If he's not corporate, he'll answer. Yes.
Speaker 5: It's a huge moment for Dan Orolovsky.
Speaker 3: This is a big deal. But hey, bookmark that ghost thing.
Speaker 4: M hm, how should we get back to that? Hey?
Speaker 3: Is the photo is the photo? I'm looking at real
Speaker 3: right now?
Speaker 4: Thanks you?
Speaker 3: It's your photo of you on Get up with a
Speaker 3: giant block.
Speaker 4: Am miring. That's an accurate photo.
Speaker 3: That's an accurate photo. By the way, you're live on
Speaker 3: Bust with voice not actually live, was just taped. But
Speaker 3: how many more days are you on ESPN? Are you
Speaker 3: on consistently?
Speaker 4: Now? No, I will not be on consistently.
Speaker 3: So you have thirty more days of doing it. So
Speaker 3: week one of the NFL seas you're gonna have it on?
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 7: I was hoping to maybe have a conversation about an
Speaker 7: addendum to the contract.
Speaker 1: Oh, just seeing if we could work work something out,
Speaker 1: because the chances of me wearing that every day, or
Speaker 1: at least every day that I'm on.
Speaker 5: Probably not high.
Speaker 4: But it's that.
Speaker 3: But you but you did a bet, Remember you did
Speaker 3: a bet. You were so confident about you car. Sounds
Speaker 3: like you not.
Speaker 6: I am a man of my word.
Speaker 3: I'm just sometimes players negotiate before the contract's over.
Speaker 4: Maybe we make some changes.
Speaker 3: Okay, here's what you could do. To change it up
Speaker 3: is you don't have to wear a flavor flave size
Speaker 3: you're in on ESPN. You could wear a smaller one.
Speaker 3: But I see what you did there with the block am.
Speaker 3: It's like so gaudy and out there that it's clearly
Speaker 3: a joke that.
Speaker 4: I was hoping that.
Speaker 3: No, I was hoping that that and the size of
Speaker 3: it would build me a little bit of build me
Speaker 3: a little bit of equity. M Okay, I'll put that
Speaker 3: in the suggestion box. I'm gonna get back to the show.
Speaker 3: I'll put in the suggestion I'll talk to my people
Speaker 3: and I'll reach out to your people.
Speaker 4: I feel like you're the best person I know.
Speaker 3: Thank you all right, that you know what words go
Speaker 3: along way with me, So that actually helps your face
Speaker 3: quite a bit.
Speaker 4: Love you by.
Speaker 3: He said it back. That's such a huge thing, gotta say,
Speaker 3: I love you back. Huh what are you, Jared?
Speaker 4: Jared? Do you believe in ghosts? Yes?
Speaker 3: Does anybody here besides Josh Payton not believe in ghosts?
Speaker 6: Are you serious?
Speaker 3: Lonely? Lonely? Lonely? And that's all the call back? Do
Speaker 3: you my brain work?
Speaker 6: You believe, but you haven't experienced.
Speaker 4: No, I'm saying I haven't had an experience, so I
Speaker 4: don't like I'm still on the fence.
Speaker 6: Oh, it's pretty much with me.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was gonna say I I probably lean more
Speaker 4: towards you. You know what it was.
Speaker 3: You made him luck eyes with you.
Speaker 6: It works.
Speaker 3: You made him luck eyes with you. You put them in
Speaker 3: a trance.
Speaker 6: Words have an impact on you. They do eye contact.
Speaker 6: That's how you get which you didn't even have. Orlovsky
Speaker 6: on FaceTime. I did, by the way, driving to work
Speaker 6: on you. No, are you serious?
Speaker 3: I am not betting the need of that. There's there
Speaker 3: is nothing better in my brain than the first week
Speaker 3: of the NFL football season. I go or, I am on,
Speaker 3: zoom on, get up, and Dan has to wear an
Speaker 3: earring and look me in the eyes?
Speaker 6: Could I oppose you one? Better? Go ahead? It's week
Speaker 6: two of the college football season. Oklahoma is headed to
Speaker 6: ann Arbor. That's sad okay, and the prior Thursday, let's
Speaker 6: call it Dan Orlovsky's wearing that on not national worldwide television.
Speaker 3: Worldwide that and he has no choice but to choose
Speaker 3: Michigan to win that game. If he's wearing a Michian earring,
Speaker 3: that's the dream. That is the dream. Now knowing Dan,
Speaker 3: he'll definitely go Oklahoma now even with the earring. But
Speaker 3: that's okay. We've got him. We physically own own Dan's
Speaker 3: body until further notice, right, like I own Dani Rolofski,
Speaker 3: and that's okay to say right to a right Okay, yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: fact check, thank you. We looked at grog. He told
Speaker 3: me that I owned Danie Rolofsky at this moment. So
Speaker 3: that's Kevin's that's what Foods Clean Take.
Speaker 4: You bought up. You bought up Oklahoma.
Speaker 3: In Michigan. We've had conversations literally every time I see you,
Speaker 3: I find a way to weave Michigan the conversation, specifically
Speaker 3: the football. Oh you do, and I could see your
Speaker 3: eyes they kind of gloss over the minute comes in
Speaker 3: out of my mouth and you just you give me
Speaker 3: what I need to hear. I want to know your
Speaker 3: thought process if you even dove into Michigan this year,
Speaker 3: of where you think they're going. Let's just start with
Speaker 3: the Big Ten in general, right, because we're college football guys. Yep,
Speaker 3: we're college football guys, you more than anybody else in
Speaker 3: the world, and I'd love to know your true opinion
Speaker 3: of my favorite school in the world.
Speaker 6: I think it all comes down to what your opinion
Speaker 6: is of your quarterback. It doesn't matter on opinion, it
Speaker 6: matters what your quarterback ends up becoming. Right, there are
Speaker 6: two schools of thought out there, pretty divergent. By the way.
Speaker 6: No one's on the fence with Bryce Underwood. It's either
Speaker 6: some of the rumors in spring were true and you're
Speaker 6: going to be in the market for a quarterback after
Speaker 6: this year because he's never going to fulfill his potential
Speaker 6: or path B or PATHA, whichever you want to call it,
Speaker 6: but it is divergent to the previous path. He just
Speaker 6: ends up being the man. And if he's the man,
Speaker 6: you got one of the best quarterbacks in the Big Ten,
Speaker 6: which means you got one of the best quarterbacks in
Speaker 6: college football. And then you tie a Kyle Whittingham style
Speaker 6: of play to that kind of talent at the quarterback position,
Speaker 6: and it just becomes Utah on steroids figuratively, and you
Speaker 6: can compete. It's not just Indiana, Oregon, Ohio State at
Speaker 6: Tier one. It's make more room, add another chair at
Speaker 6: the table now. Also, it would look like we keep
Speaker 6: getting better throughout the year. You know, we're scaling up
Speaker 6: throughout the year. What we were in week two in
Speaker 6: week three is not what we are in week nine
Speaker 6: in week ten. I you can tell me what you
Speaker 6: think you're really out in there. I just don't want
Speaker 6: to lean into that until I see it.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So they're one of my believe it or see it
Speaker 6: to believe it kind of teams this year.
Speaker 3: So I have to tell you what I think you
Speaker 3: said that. I'm going to do that. Here's where I live.
Speaker 3: I'm going to try to live in an unbiased path
Speaker 3: and then my clearly biased path. I wish there was
Speaker 3: a hat to differentiate which Taylor I'm gonna go with first.
Speaker 3: I'll go with the unbiased path This season one hundred
Speaker 3: percent relies on how much better Bryce Underwood has gotten.
Speaker 3: The roster is a top twenty five, top fifteen roster
Speaker 3: in college football. The only other question mark on the
Speaker 3: roster right now seems to me the line linebacker Cole Sullivan.
Speaker 3: He went to Oklahoma. He was one of our best linebackers.
Speaker 3: Lost a couple of guys to the draft. Another individual
Speaker 3: just stop playing a football together. He was the kid
Speaker 3: that was at Nebraska, transferred to Michigan. So when it
Speaker 3: comes to the wide receiver room, it's one of the
Speaker 3: best wide receiver rooms on paper that Michigan's had in
Speaker 3: a very long time. Yeah, Babyloa, the left tackle, he
Speaker 3: was this five star recruit, one of the highest rated
Speaker 3: offensive linemen to ever come to the University of Michigan.
Speaker 3: He was making absolute waves last camp before he knee injury.
Speaker 3: Unless HEAs you get him back. Plus a whole group
Speaker 3: of guys that played together all of last year in
Speaker 3: various spots, but still play together. Chemistry gets better reps
Speaker 3: with an offensive line makes you a better team. You
Speaker 3: have Jordan Marshall, Savian Hyder, who is the highest rated
Speaker 3: running back in most recent years to commit. He's turning heads.
Speaker 3: I feel really good about what Bryce Underwood has around him,
Speaker 3: and it all depends on the game that brought up
Speaker 3: this entire topic, which is Oklahoma. Brent vennabolefs his defense,
Speaker 3: how complex they are. If he can have success against them,
Speaker 3: and Jason Beck can scheme up an actual game plan
Speaker 3: other than we'll just run it down the middle fifty
Speaker 3: times and hopefully someone breaks one, then I think we're
Speaker 3: in a really good spot. But a really week two,
Speaker 3: we will know what the University of Michigan is, which
Speaker 3: is great. There's two things is it's great because you
Speaker 3: find out exactly what your football team is right away.
Speaker 3: The bad part is if it's not what you want,
Speaker 3: it's like, well, it's gonna be a tough year.
Speaker 4: That's gonna take place. Do you find out in week two?
Speaker 6: I believe so you think you know everything you need
Speaker 6: to know in a week two out of conference game
Speaker 6: in year one under a head coach, you think you
Speaker 6: know everything.
Speaker 3: No, not everything, that's a very that's you would know
Speaker 3: eighty percent. You will know right then and there if
Speaker 3: your team is a playoff caliber team.
Speaker 6: Playoff caliber team. But at that point, we've got a
Speaker 6: twelve team field. So at that point we'll have thirty
Speaker 6: playoff caliber teams and then we start weeding it out.
Speaker 6: Pull what Michigan schedule right quick.
Speaker 3: It's a monster.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 6: But what I'm saying is, let's say they lose seventeen
Speaker 6: to thirteen in week two. Okay, just say that happens.
Speaker 6: Not predicting it, but let's say that happens. You're telling
Speaker 6: me that there's no room for a team in this case,
Speaker 6: Michigan to round into form around early October. You're telling
Speaker 6: me that can't happen. You're telling me, by the time,
Speaker 6: by the time we got Iowa that comes in, we
Speaker 6: win that. When dogfight, we win that. When we go
Speaker 6: to Minnesota, we win that. When you're telling me by
Speaker 6: the time Penn State comes in, you couldn't see a
Speaker 6: world where you're four and one, you're undefeated in conference play,
Speaker 6: and here we go, we've hit reset on the season,
Speaker 6: and we got a season coming up. We got a
Speaker 6: second season coming up of Penn State, Indiana, Oregon, Ohio State.
Speaker 6: And if we go three and one in that stretch
Speaker 6: and we get two of them at home, is that right? Yeah,
Speaker 6: two of them at home. If we got three on
Speaker 6: one of that stretch, we're in the playoff. If we
Speaker 6: go two and two, depending on how the dominoes fall,
Speaker 6: we're on the fringes of playoff contention, especially especially if
Speaker 6: one of those losses to Oklahoma ends up being a
Speaker 6: loss to a playoff team themselves. All I'm saying is,
Speaker 6: I don't think we know everything.
Speaker 4: We to knowing week two.
Speaker 3: We don't know everything we need to know in week two.
Speaker 3: But let's go seventeen thirteen, low scoring game, very defensive,
Speaker 3: fair that you just not predicted, but allegedly predicted. To me,
Speaker 3: it's all about how Bryce Underwood performs, how he handles
Speaker 3: the university when he gets hit. What does his body
Speaker 3: language look like. Because if you're a year two quarterback
Speaker 3: who didn't have a quarterback coach a year before, has
Speaker 3: all the town in the world now, Koy Detmer junior,
Speaker 3: who's the quarterback coach comes from Utah. Beautiful mustache of
Speaker 3: the individual, by the way, if this kid's keeping his
Speaker 3: head up, if he's being a leader to his guys,
Speaker 3: if you see him making big throws like last year
Speaker 3: I think Michigan had. We're top three and drops in
Speaker 3: college football. If those guys are making those drops, now,
Speaker 3: I'm looking to a place where it's like, Okay, get
Speaker 3: to Penn State. I have an interesting feel about Penn
Speaker 3: State that we can get into in a little bit.
Speaker 3: But you get to that game, yeah, it's a whole
Speaker 3: new season. But if you drop to Oklahoma, who on
Speaker 3: paper is not as good as they were last year,
Speaker 3: and you're playing Indiana, their raigning national champ, Oregon who
Speaker 3: has their best raw or since Dan Lanning's been there
Speaker 3: and Ohio State, which pays me to stay always reloads
Speaker 3: You're not gonna I think what we saw last year
Speaker 3: is you're not going to be a nine to three
Speaker 3: team and make the playoffs.
Speaker 6: I'm not just granting that Oklahoma on paper is worse
Speaker 6: than they are last year. Bookmark that you're not granting that.
Speaker 6: I'm not granting that as a as a formality. Okay,
Speaker 6: like I think Oklahoma could be as good, if not
Speaker 6: slightly better than they were last year, doesn't mean they're
Speaker 6: going to be a better record team than they were
Speaker 6: last year because they won some close games last year.
Speaker 4: We'll find out.
Speaker 6: Here's what I'm trying to say. That game that's one
Speaker 6: of them, that's the same day as Texas Ohio State.
Speaker 6: There's a few games early in the year, like Mississippi
Speaker 6: State goes to Minnesota randomly. There are a bunch of
Speaker 6: these SEC Big ten games early in the year that
Speaker 6: I can't wait for because I don't care about bowl season.
Speaker 6: I care about regular season matchups. We rarely ever get them.
Speaker 6: But this is the kind of year where we're going
Speaker 6: to get several SEC Big ten, like comparably seeded matchups
Speaker 6: where I get an idea early on, how does this
Speaker 6: conference stack up against the other conference. There's a game
Speaker 6: in Ashville that's not Big ten SEC, it's acc SEC
Speaker 6: Week one. It's Ole Miss Louisville. That game's gonna go
Speaker 6: a long way even though it's week one of shaping
Speaker 6: the conversation come playoff selection time, when you're asking whose
Speaker 6: conference deserves benefit of doubt, whose conference deserves one more
Speaker 6: seed at the table. All these games are happening in
Speaker 6: the first couple of weeks of the year, and they're
Speaker 6: gonna matter so much three months later when we're trying
Speaker 6: to decide whose strength of schedule really impresses me more
Speaker 6: or strength of record? Whose strength of record really impresses
Speaker 6: me more. In case you can't tell it's gonna be
Speaker 6: a great year.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be a phenomenal year. We brought up these
Speaker 3: games so early, do they really mean as much as
Speaker 3: they do when we get into November and selection Saturday
Speaker 3: or Sunday, whatever day it is. We can look at
Speaker 3: last year and just look at Notre Dame. Oh yeah, oh,
Speaker 3: here's their first two games, run the table after that,
Speaker 3: and at the end of the year is playing their
Speaker 3: best football. CJ Carr. I'm pretty if he's at a
Speaker 3: Heisman frontrunner.
Speaker 4: He's top five. Correct, he's there, He's right up there
Speaker 4: on the fandom sportsbook.
Speaker 6: I think he's the favorite as we speak.
Speaker 3: But you sit there and you look at the it's like,
Speaker 3: if that's how the committee is operating and looking at things,
Speaker 3: and you take an independent who lost to text A
Speaker 3: and M on a play that probably should have entered
Speaker 3: the game but a weird holding call on the last play,
Speaker 3: and then you lose a tight one two What was
Speaker 3: the other game? Miami, Miami, right exactly? So that is
Speaker 3: they That's kind of like, yeah, these games truly do matter.
Speaker 3: Texas is another team. They go nine and three, they
Speaker 3: beat A and M. The last game of the year
Speaker 3: when there were A and M was one two three,
Speaker 3: what were they? They were undefeated, undefeated, and Texas beat
Speaker 3: them and they did not make it into the college
Speaker 3: football playoff. So when I look at a game that big,
Speaker 3: the excitement of like, oh, we're going to know where
Speaker 3: we stand, We're going to know how like what kind
Speaker 3: of team we have, it's like put the ball down
Speaker 3: and figure it out. That's kind of where I sit
Speaker 3: with that.
Speaker 6: I'm not mad at it. To me, what I'm saying
Speaker 6: is I have two buckets. There's the negative bucket and
Speaker 6: the positive bucket. Yeah, I think it's a whole lot
Speaker 6: more likely that the positive bucket overflows from Michigan in
Speaker 6: week two than it is the negative bucket. If you
Speaker 6: lose that game, I could still sell myself that you'll
Speaker 6: get right. But if you're already playing at a high
Speaker 6: enough level to win that kind of game in week two,
Speaker 6: well then we'll be on the way home and you'll
Speaker 6: be selling me on the potential of eleven and one.
Speaker 6: The potential of twelve and zero.
Speaker 3: Oh, there's no eleven to one. And we win that
Speaker 3: game the way they win that game, and we're.
Speaker 6: Going to go that game, I won't even be responding.
Speaker 6: I'll just let you go at that point, so the
Speaker 6: bucket will overflow. Now, as for where we'll be, I
Speaker 6: don't even know that we'll be together, Like.
Speaker 4: I just hope we are.
Speaker 6: It'd be nice to be there though.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's a great early season game you
Speaker 3: go to, Yes, Shrevin.
Speaker 5: A question for Josh Bay there's a lot of big
Speaker 5: names on that schedule that I feel like we've talked
Speaker 5: about is there anybody that looks super sneaky to you.
Speaker 6: Oh, easily second to last game of the season, if
Speaker 6: you're sandwiched between a trip to Eugene and Columbus and
Speaker 6: you just got a playoff coach as you're a new
Speaker 6: head coach, and he brought a bunch of his team
Speaker 6: with him, and he looks the way he looks looks matter,
Speaker 6: looks absolutely matter. I think you c la, especially late
Speaker 6: in the year when they've probably gotten their act together.
Speaker 6: If they needed to get their act together, I wouldn't
Speaker 6: be I wouldn't be sleeping on that game. Okay, the
Speaker 6: answer used to be Michigan State, but people have slept
Speaker 6: on Michigan State for a little while New Day in East.
Speaker 3: Lansing days a day there. Yeah, I think they made
Speaker 3: a good hire. I think they made a great hire.
Speaker 3: He was great at Northwest? Is it Ryan Fitzpatrick? Correct Fitzgerald?
Speaker 3: Pat Fitzgerald?
Speaker 6: Did?
Speaker 3: I always always always mess that name up.
Speaker 5: Fitzpatrick, great NFL quarterback.
Speaker 3: And Pat Fitzgerald Pat Fitzgerald, dude. And I'm gonna mess
Speaker 3: it up fifteen more times this year because I have
Speaker 3: done it how many times? Clumb too many?
Speaker 4: Too many?
Speaker 5: But it's it makes it more fun, it's it's natural.
Speaker 3: This culture guy right here, there's no doubt that's a
Speaker 3: big ten head coach. That's a big ten head coach.
Speaker 3: That's a guy that I hate this.
Speaker 4: He's gonna make.
Speaker 3: Michigan State a much better football team. They're gonna get
Speaker 3: culture wins, culture wins in and out. So I don't
Speaker 3: think they're going to be top of the tops, but
Speaker 3: I think they're going to have a vast and from
Speaker 3: how competitive they are a week in a week out,
Speaker 3: even ig it'st big teams.
Speaker 6: I agree they are. It sounds like you believe they're
Speaker 6: gonna do what Nebraska is supposed to be doing.
Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, I agree with that. Do you want to
Speaker 3: talk about Nebraska even though Will Compton's not here.
Speaker 6: I think we owe it to the audience.
Speaker 3: We owe it to the audience. There's a lot of
Speaker 3: gbrs ripping around right now, and I get I feel
Speaker 3: tense knuckles as people are listening to this podcast somewhere
Speaker 3: in Nebraska just thinking, please God, Josh Pate be nice
Speaker 3: to our school.
Speaker 6: I believe that's somewhere in Nashville that prayer is going up.
Speaker 5: Yeah, should y'all call Will just to check on them
Speaker 5: before y'all talk about Nebraska.
Speaker 3: I don't want a sickness to even come over the phone.
Speaker 6: Orlovsky picked up. But you're talking about a whole different ballgame, right.
Speaker 6: That's to whether we'll come.
Speaker 3: We can all when Will is not within these walls.
Speaker 3: We know how difficult it is to get ahold of him,
Speaker 3: even now that he's sick. It's like, let's not even
Speaker 3: put the expectation out there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, right, we want to wish him all the best,
Speaker 5: all the best, right.
Speaker 3: Pulling Nebraska schedule, this is I think this is good
Speaker 3: that we do this unbiasedly and and after Nebraska, we
Speaker 3: obviously know that Penn State, Oregon, Ohio State, like Indiana,
Speaker 3: like these are all schools that are going to be
Speaker 3: in the Big TENA being part of the conversation, we
Speaker 3: obviously don't have five hours to break everything down, so
Speaker 3: we should go to a different conference. But you look
Speaker 3: at this schedule right here, m hm, Ohio, that's a.
Speaker 6: W Why don't you start five? And oh just go
Speaker 6: the first five? Why would you not be five?
Speaker 3: And oh, well, Pat Fitzgerald is a reason why I
Speaker 3: would start with.
Speaker 6: That, your fourth year coach versus first year. I don't
Speaker 6: care where you play the game. You should win the game. Okay,
Speaker 6: you should win the game. Should you should win the game?
Speaker 6: Should be five and oh when Indiana comes to town.
Speaker 6: And by the way, not that we need to pull
Speaker 6: Indiana's schedule up. Indiana will have played no one at
Speaker 6: this point, so you could have a little bit of
Speaker 6: a mysterious Indiana team just in time for Spooptober. Yeah,
Speaker 6: coming into Lincoln is it undefeated versus undefeated there on
Speaker 6: October tenth?
Speaker 4: I don't hate it.
Speaker 3: I kind of love it.
Speaker 5: What a rowdy atmosphere that'll be.
Speaker 4: That'll be a good game, Yeah, it'll be. That'll be
Speaker 4: a great game.
Speaker 3: Say what, Yeah, those three games are a monster for them.
Speaker 3: I do they see Indiana as a weird school for
Speaker 3: me this year because over the quarterback like her, he
Speaker 3: ran a very similar offense, but he was just riddled
Speaker 3: with interceptions all year at TCU. So it's like I
Speaker 3: am now in the in the the position of Kurtzignett's
Speaker 3: gonna get anybody right, He's officially he's for him to
Speaker 3: do something so historic, taking the worst college football team
Speaker 3: of all time and turn him into national champions two
Speaker 3: years into his coaching career there. I think it's like,
Speaker 3: it's really hard for me to like bet against them.
Speaker 6: I was up there a couple of months ago. I
Speaker 6: let you in ask him about Whover. Yeah, they sure
Speaker 6: did well. They sure did ordered food for me and
Speaker 6: everything did they get? He got?
Speaker 4: You have food?
Speaker 3: Yeah, what did you get?
Speaker 6: What did he order? There's a there's a wing there's
Speaker 6: a wing place in Bloomington and he ordered from there.
Speaker 6: It was good, nice, it was really good. Okay, so
Speaker 6: you guys are friends.
Speaker 4: Good to know.
Speaker 6: And he gave me some info and I asked him
Speaker 6: about Hoover and all he did was he looked me
Speaker 6: in the eye.
Speaker 4: And said, we got what we needed to get there.
Speaker 6: What more do I need?
Speaker 3: Is that not the perfect signetti response to what do
Speaker 3: you think about your new quarterback?
Speaker 6: We got what we needed to get we need And dude.
Speaker 3: That who's the wide receiver? Nick Marsh from Michigan State.
Speaker 3: Good player, buddy, that kid's that's an NFL wide receiver.
Speaker 6: There's two of them. Nick Marsh going from Michigan State
Speaker 6: to Indiana, Eric Singleton going from Auburn to Florida. Those
Speaker 6: are two really high level receivers who were just buried
Speaker 6: and lost because they were in terrible positions last year,
Speaker 6: that could burst on the scene this year. Either one
Speaker 6: of those could hang a thousand yard seasons and it
Speaker 6: would not shock me.
Speaker 3: God bless, I really hope. I wanted Nick Marsh, Nick Marsh,
Speaker 3: Nick Marsh to go to Michigan so bad, you should,
Speaker 3: And the rumor was as much as he was, like
Speaker 3: upset with Michigan State, he wouldn't be right to go
Speaker 3: to arrival, which tells me is a good character.
Speaker 6: I think that's big heart. That's heart.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's good character. Like there was a bag
Speaker 3: being ready to be thrown at him from Michigan. He's like,
Speaker 3: I shouldn't do that. That's morally the wrong thing to do,
Speaker 3: go to Michigan State, to Michigan.
Speaker 6: So damn wow, I know I didn't know that. That's good.
Speaker 6: You like that even if it's not true. Don't tell
Speaker 6: me it's not true. No, No, I want that to be.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna lie to you all lot this year. Yeah,
Speaker 6: that's not one of them. I want that to be.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Can we go back to Nebraska for a second, Go
Speaker 6: back to Nebraska? Okay, if I'm Nebraska, if I'm a
Speaker 6: Nebraska fan. Okay, last year, we've got year three Matt rule, right, Yes,
Speaker 6: the year it's gonna happen. It's gonna pop off this year.
Speaker 6: Some people talk themselves into ten and two playoff.
Speaker 3: Some people yeah, oh state really and one guy a
Speaker 3: whole state and one individual, two individuals.
Speaker 6: That's right. He sucked me in.
Speaker 3: I know, and you know what.
Speaker 6: Go ahead, No I deserve it. Go ahead, No, you
Speaker 6: don't deserve it.
Speaker 3: I'm just playing back like our year at the locker
Speaker 3: room together, and I realized that because of Will did that?
Speaker 3: Did that to you the third week in November? Is
Speaker 3: why you did that to me? Well, you shook my hand,
Speaker 3: gave me a hug, and stabbed me in the back
Speaker 3: in the last second Michiganal House state.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I was carrying a lot of hate around
Speaker 6: in my heart. Okay, yeah, it was a me problem.
Speaker 6: It was not your fault the.
Speaker 3: Basket, yeah it was. It's not Josh's fault. No, it's
Speaker 3: not even Will's fault. Nope, it's Hope's fault. He can't
Speaker 3: have too much of its danger. He can't have too
Speaker 3: much of it danger. So I just want you to know.
Speaker 3: I'm over that, but go ahead your three matt rules
Speaker 3: when it's supposed to happen. And obviously the wheels fell off.
Speaker 3: Dylan Royoli is no longer a Husker. He gets injured?
Speaker 4: Was it Laff?
Speaker 3: Who's the quarterback? Latif?
Speaker 4: Thank you?
Speaker 3: Latif comes in, he balls out for a game. Wheels
Speaker 3: fall off. Overall, we end up back at A seven
Speaker 3: five seasons six and sixty.
Speaker 6: The year prior believe they played U C. L A
Speaker 6: and someone it's not important who, group texted another group
Speaker 6: of people who said, TJ. Latif legacy game today four
Speaker 6: hundred combined yards. I believe that was the prediction. Gosh, yeah,
Speaker 6: so that that's that's how November was going last year, Nebraska.
Speaker 6: But think about being a Nebraska fan, all right, So
Speaker 6: fast forward to the end of the year. You only
Speaker 6: went to seven and five? Were they seven and five?
Speaker 6: You go seven and five in the year where you
Speaker 6: think we could be a fringe playoff team at the
Speaker 6: very least, this is the year.
Speaker 4: We're gonna arrive. You don't you do not?
Speaker 6: Okay? Then you hear this, who's out of the door
Speaker 6: Penn State jobs. No it's not, Yes, it is Okay, hey,
Speaker 6: guess who's on the list. Who is Matt Rule?
Speaker 3: Holy shit, they must be shitting themselves.
Speaker 6: They are at the time they are they were slash are. Yeah,
Speaker 6: So what do we gotta do. We're upset that we
Speaker 6: only won seven games, but we can't let the outside
Speaker 6: world know that, and we can't let Matt know that
Speaker 6: because we got to fight to keep him. And so
Speaker 6: we gotta we gotta uncover every couch cushion, we got
Speaker 6: to pinch every penny together, and we got to make
Speaker 6: sure number one, this guy's getting paid top dollar. We
Speaker 6: got to extend his contract. We've got to invest heavily
Speaker 6: in the NIL infrastructure here. And you know what they did.
Speaker 6: They did Penn State looks elsewhere. Case closed, except that
Speaker 6: here's the problem. You still only won seven games last year.
Speaker 6: Your quarterback, who you thought was coming to save you
Speaker 6: the second coming will Stein happens, and so he's gone.
Speaker 6: And then you look to Las Vegas and you bring
Speaker 6: in Anthony Calandria, who, look, I'll even grant you may
Speaker 6: be a better fit for the offense than Kenny Minche
Speaker 6: was going to be. But that's neither here nor there.
Speaker 6: All I'm asking is if they go seven and five again,
Speaker 6: is everyone really gonna not speak what everyone's thinking, which
Speaker 6: is a kind of hot seat just because you renewed
Speaker 6: the guy, because we live in fantasy world. In real world,
Speaker 6: fantasy world is we're in Nebraska, we should be better
Speaker 6: than this. If we've given you four years and you
Speaker 6: haven't delivered better than a seven win season, you're on
Speaker 6: the hot seat full stop. Then the real world is,
Speaker 6: we can't do that. We just fought to keep you
Speaker 6: twelve months ago and we invested a ton of money
Speaker 6: and you we can't even afford to.
Speaker 4: Talk like that. It's a tough spot to be in.
Speaker 3: It's a tough spot to be in if I am
Speaker 3: in the camp of Hey, we just fought and gave
Speaker 3: him a lot of money. As Nebraska fans, we have
Speaker 3: to remember where we were pre Matt Ruhle, and it
Speaker 3: was no bowl games in over a decade. Yeah, no
Speaker 3: bowl games ever since Bo Polini left. It's been a downwards,
Speaker 3: down world spiral for the Nebraska Cornhuskers. So, yeah, it's
Speaker 3: not going exactly like you wanted to. Usually, Matt rule
Speaker 3: has that nine, ten to eleven win season in the
Speaker 3: year three. Per Will Compton's point. This is a great
Speaker 3: spin zone for my boy.
Speaker 4: Willy.
Speaker 3: See, they changed the uniforms this year.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I forgot about it.
Speaker 3: They changed the uniforms this year, So we're officially back
Speaker 3: in the year one of Matt rule and I and
Speaker 3: you brought up Clandreate. We kind of went by a
Speaker 3: little bit. You said it might be a better fit
Speaker 3: for the offense. I like this kid's moxie, his attitude,
Speaker 3: the way he walks around. He seems like a culture
Speaker 3: locker room guy. And then everything you were kind of feeling.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it was just because it was
Speaker 3: towards the end, but the Dylan Royola saga felt like
Speaker 3: not a locker room guy, more of an eye guy.
Speaker 3: A lot of noise from his camp getting into his head.
Speaker 3: Not his fault, but also his fault. Right y, Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's a fair take. Like you have people that you
Speaker 3: trust in love that are in your year. You should
Speaker 3: be getting X, Y and Z. You should be handling
Speaker 3: this eventually that's going to break you down. But you
Speaker 3: have to have the mental fortitude as a quarterback in
Speaker 3: college football at a supposed high program to be like, ah,
Speaker 3: this is where I need to be. This where I
Speaker 3: need to invest in, and I think he's learning that
Speaker 3: lesson being a backup at Oregon right now. I think
Speaker 3: this is a long play that Dilan Rilo don't know
Speaker 3: about the quarterback.
Speaker 6: But the man back to Nebraska. Back to Nebraska, you
Speaker 6: get Anthony Calandria. Do you think there's any point in
Speaker 6: the preseason this year or even the regular season where
Speaker 6: the comparison gets made between him and Trinidad Chamblis's situation
Speaker 6: last year where a guy just comes out of nowhere
Speaker 6: and ends up being the guy who rescues your program
Speaker 6: and makes you forget all about the guy who was
Speaker 6: supposed to be the starter.
Speaker 3: My god, it didn't cross my mind and tell you
Speaker 3: those words came out of your mouth, But now it
Speaker 3: feels like it's inevitable.
Speaker 6: So sometimes I have takes that maybe I personally don't
Speaker 6: believe in, but I think I could see a lot
Speaker 6: of people believe in, and I don't want to say them.
Speaker 6: Like I think I may play a game this year
Speaker 6: with you where I take what I just said, whatever
Speaker 6: the equivalent of that is, and I just write it
Speaker 6: on a piece of paper and we just put them
Speaker 6: in envelopes, and I'm just waiting for that take to
Speaker 6: happen so I can open the envelope.
Speaker 3: Oh, you're an osa mentalist. Maybe you're gonna do that
Speaker 3: to me. Yeah, maybe I kind of love that. Maybe
Speaker 3: you just have a big and if there's an alleged
Speaker 3: show going on a big Bowl and just have notes
Speaker 3: put in of different takes that have maybe that could
Speaker 3: possibly take place throughout the year.
Speaker 5: If you already do that, that would be cool.
Speaker 3: That'd be fun.
Speaker 6: Right, Maybe hold up a newspaper with that day's date
Speaker 6: next to me as I as I record the take.
Speaker 6: You never fake.
Speaker 3: That, You never fake that's you think Calandria has the
Speaker 3: potential to be a Trinidad Chambliss this year.
Speaker 6: Let me I've never needed to be clearer. No, okay, crazy,
Speaker 6: But what I'm saying is, who do they play in
Speaker 6: Week one? Who's Nebraska play? It's not a big aer
Speaker 6: player at Ohio. If if they were to just body
Speaker 6: bag Ohio, right, and they are they are prioritizing building
Speaker 6: his confidence against Ohio bowling green in North Dakota. You're
Speaker 6: telling me you couldn't see him go thirty one of
Speaker 6: forty six in one of those games for three eighty
Speaker 6: five four touchdowns and the message boards light up. Guys,
Speaker 6: we may have a trend on our hands, may have
Speaker 6: a TRENDID at two point zero on our hands. I
Speaker 6: could see that happening, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: The reason why you can see that happening is that's
Speaker 3: exactly what took place last year before they hit big
Speaker 3: ten play. Nebraska was what number one in past defense.
Speaker 3: Dylan Rayolo had like eighty percent completion rating and was
Speaker 3: starting for over three hundred yards per game. And it
Speaker 3: was Nebraska's back. And you know, on this bus, we
Speaker 3: hurt it louder than ever Nebraska fan. By the way,
Speaker 3: Nebraska supporter Cincinnati team, they be a spicy cincinnat team.
Speaker 3: There are a lot of bets put on Cincinnati to
Speaker 3: win that game. I know that.
Speaker 6: Right, right, it's probably accurate, probably accurate.
Speaker 3: That's how sportsbooks work, right, You bet on your team,
Speaker 3: and you look at Nebraska in their history versus Cincinnati.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what that tied end. That quarterback. They
Speaker 3: had some dogs. But what happened, sure, what happened? All
Speaker 3: to be said, I love the idea of five and
Speaker 3: oh going in Indiana. I love it one, two, three
Speaker 3: or four five and that would I just word Michigan State. Man,
Speaker 3: I do that? I mean truly, like that's the only
Speaker 3: one you really have.
Speaker 6: To worry about it, can I say? Let me say
Speaker 6: it this way. If Nebraska is gonna do anything this
Speaker 6: year and they can't take care of business, like what?
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 6: Let me ask it this way. I just paused one
Speaker 6: thought to start another one. You know you have to
Speaker 6: go on the road in conference play, Yes, if you
Speaker 6: know you've got to do that. Yeah, you could go
Speaker 6: to Maryland or to Purdue, but not too far down
Speaker 6: the list of like desirable entry points to road conference
Speaker 6: plate would be Michigan State.
Speaker 4: That's fair.
Speaker 6: Roster's been gutted to first year staff. Like, if you
Speaker 6: can't handle that, it's a moot point anyway. There's no
Speaker 6: point in talking about Indiana and whether you'll be undefeated
Speaker 6: in a couple of weeks anyway. So that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: I'm saying, if we're having to worry about week four,
Speaker 6: this entire conversation is off the rails anyway.
Speaker 3: Yes, we shouldn't even be having it right, So I
Speaker 3: like it. We're playing as if this needs to be
Speaker 3: that's where you start to go this is where we
Speaker 3: check a box. It's not going to be the most
Speaker 3: amazing win in the world, but it should be a win.
Speaker 6: In a world, in a world where the November storyline
Speaker 6: is people weren't wrong about Nebraska, they were just early
Speaker 6: about Nebraska. In that world, they beat Michigan State by
Speaker 6: double digits.
Speaker 4: I love it, Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 3: Be a co host of this show. We spent a
Speaker 3: lot of time in the Big Ten. Where would you
Speaker 3: like to travel next twelve SEC acc I'll go.
Speaker 6: Wherever you want to go. It seems like it's good
Speaker 6: business to go to the SEC.
Speaker 3: Let's say, let's travel down Let's go down South together,
Speaker 3: Let's do it. You've been called a bit of a
Speaker 3: homer when it comes to SEC. You were born in Georgia,
Speaker 3: you grew up at SEC country. I think you've done
Speaker 3: a fantastic job of getting rid of those claims towards you.
Speaker 3: But as you look at the landscape of where the
Speaker 3: SEC is right now, do you think, just in general,
Speaker 3: that there's somebody in that conference that can dethrone the
Speaker 3: Big Ten From a national championship standpoint.
Speaker 6: My feel in July is I see one roster that
Speaker 6: looks like it measures up with the best rosters in
Speaker 6: the Big Ten, and that's Texas. Yeah, problem there is,
Speaker 6: there's no proof of concept with Texas. I know Ohio
Speaker 6: State can do it. I know Indiana can do it.
Speaker 6: Texas is equivalent in the Big Ten is Oregon loaded
Speaker 6: up with talent, high caliber coaching staffs, big high profile
Speaker 6: head coaches, but thus far haven't gotten the job done
Speaker 6: in postseason. So I think it would be crazy if
Speaker 6: they ended up meeting in the National title Game this year.
Speaker 6: But I think I just came from SEC media days
Speaker 6: last week, so you know, you got the talking point of, well,
Speaker 6: how do you measure a conference's strength? Is it the
Speaker 6: depth of overall quality? Is it how many good teams
Speaker 6: were at the top? And to me, best is comprised
Speaker 6: of how many championship caliber teams do you have? Big
Speaker 6: Ten's got more. That means Big Ten's better right now.
Speaker 6: If you want to do a strength of schedule analysis, okay,
Speaker 6: that's different. But schedules aren't teams. Schedules don't play. Teams play.
Speaker 6: So if we're asking ourselves, man, look at all these
Speaker 6: remove the logos, remove the conference patches, just look at
Speaker 6: these rosters and you take Ohio State, and you take
Speaker 6: Oregon and you take Texas. It's hard to differentiate there,
Speaker 6: and they all presumably will have plus quarterback play. See
Speaker 6: that's my hang up on Maybe Georgia. Like Georgia, I
Speaker 6: want to be there because I respect the heck out
Speaker 6: of Kirby Smart, love the personnel overall, especially love the
Speaker 6: defense of personnel. They won't have high level wide receiver play,
Speaker 6: but they haven't had a thousand yard receiver since the
Speaker 6: early two thousands, which is one of the wildest stats
Speaker 6: in college football. It's just if I look at Gunner
Speaker 6: Stockton and you're telling me they got to run through
Speaker 6: Notre Dame, Miami and Ohio State consecutively. Do I think
Speaker 6: they're going to be able to match up QBS three
Speaker 6: out of three in the postseason? And I'm not there
Speaker 6: yet with Georgia. I can be there with Texas. I
Speaker 6: could be there with Arch Manning right just like I
Speaker 6: could be there with Dante Moore. I could be there
Speaker 6: with Julian Say and I could be there with CJ.
Speaker 6: Carr and whatnot. So I look at Texas right now, man,
Speaker 6: and it's up to the rest of the SEC to
Speaker 6: sort of pull their chair up to that table. But
Speaker 6: the rest of the SEC loves to tell you, what
Speaker 6: is Texas proven to get that benefit of doubt. They
Speaker 6: haven't proven anything. But I'm trying to predict the future.
Speaker 6: I'm not trying to predict the past. That's easy.
Speaker 3: Yeahs. You look at arch Manning in the back half
Speaker 3: of his season and how he handled it. He really
Speaker 3: started to come on. That's where that early game against
Speaker 3: Ohio State might have blundered him a little bit. The
Speaker 3: expectation on him going into the season was his high
Speaker 3: as I've ever seen for a quarterback, and then people
Speaker 3: jump ship quickly and you want to stick with him
Speaker 3: for a little bit. Florida takes place, You're like, Okay,
Speaker 3: what's really happening here with Texas? And then he goes
Speaker 3: on this crazy session. I believe it was the Mississippi
Speaker 3: State game where it was like, oh, here we go again.
Speaker 3: Then all of a sudden they turn it on with
Speaker 3: fourteen minutes left in the game and they and they
Speaker 3: get it done. He has a great stint, does a
Speaker 3: great ja. I mean he his best game probably all
Speaker 3: year was against Michigan.
Speaker 6: In the bowl game.
Speaker 3: Unbelievable game, shut off the athletic ability, the wheels and
Speaker 3: all that. Then you go in the transfer portal and
Speaker 3: get the number one wide receiver in Cam Coleman. You
Speaker 3: already have a wide receiver room riddled with five stars.
Speaker 3: So you look at them on a roster and you're like, Yeah,
Speaker 3: this team can really be something. My question is is
Speaker 3: let's just play the Nate. Let's go to negative town yep,
Speaker 3: and let's just say Texas has an underwhelming year again,
Speaker 3: like some of the SEC haters want to say, they
Speaker 3: haven't earned the right to have this type of expectation
Speaker 3: on them after what happened last year. What is the
Speaker 3: conversation revolving around Sark, Because we've had a couple of
Speaker 3: conversations about Matt Ruhle and coaches in the Big Ten
Speaker 3: where it's like these guys, it's like we wanted to
Speaker 3: keep them, then we paid them a bunch of money,
Speaker 3: and then it didn't go the way we wanted. Now
Speaker 3: we got Stark, who's an offensive genius. He's got the
Speaker 3: greatest football player with the last name Manning, and he's
Speaker 3: got a full roster of everybody. If they don't have
Speaker 3: the season they have, which is a playoff, Berth which
Speaker 3: is running it deep into It's a national championship, is
Speaker 3: what it is. It's very hard for me to go
Speaker 3: and just bluntly say national championship, because that's clearly there's
Speaker 3: probably twelve teams that are banging that drum right now.
Speaker 6: Less than that, you think, less than that they're just
Speaker 6: one of them.
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Speaker 3: So when it comes to Sark, is it like this
Speaker 3: is a boom or bust year for him in your mind,
Speaker 3: and this is, you know what, We're getting a little taky.
Speaker 3: So if you want to punt on this, you're more
Speaker 3: than welcome to. But it feels like it's getting a
Speaker 3: little loud in the Burnt Orange and White.
Speaker 6: This is the only team you should be talking that
Speaker 6: way about in the SEC. Texas is the only team
Speaker 6: who is national championship or bust in the SEC. I
Speaker 6: mean I never say that. I never say you do that.
Speaker 6: That's this strong of a Yeah. I think it's a
Speaker 6: conversation most of the time. Yeah, ninety nine percent of
Speaker 6: the time when you talk about championship or bust, my
Speaker 6: retort to you is, okay, well, what does bust mean?
Speaker 6: Do you mean you're gonna fire the guy up? So, like,
Speaker 6: what are you talking about? I'm not comfortable with what
Speaker 6: I'm about to say. Let me preface everything. Yeah right, Yeah.
Speaker 6: So I don't believe in championship or bust because I
Speaker 6: think there are too many variables, even if you've got
Speaker 6: the most loaded roster known to mankind when it comes
Speaker 6: to winning a championship. Saban didn't win them every year
Speaker 6: at Alabama, and they were beyond loaded. They were more
Speaker 6: low covoded than anyone is right now. So there's a
Speaker 6: lot of variables and injuries and bounce of ball that's
Speaker 6: still in play. However, I do think the reality down
Speaker 6: there is indicative of the overall new reality in college football.
Speaker 6: When you can buy virtually whichever talent you want, you
Speaker 6: can go any direction you want. They need a new tailback,
Speaker 6: Let's just go get two of them. We want to
Speaker 6: fill out the receiver position. Let's go get Cam Coleman.
Speaker 6: We've already got arch Manning. Let's go get a stud
Speaker 6: linebacker from Pitt. Let's just backfill at every turn with
Speaker 6: an option equal to or greater than what was already there.
Speaker 6: In a world where you can do that, and in
Speaker 6: a world where you haven't already won a championship, and
Speaker 6: in a world where, unlike the previous world, you're asking
Speaker 6: your big time donors to heavily invest their money. Scratch that,
Speaker 6: spend their money, because there's no return on it. It's
Speaker 6: just spent money. Expectations and consequences could potentially get really
Speaker 6: out of whack really quick. So a former life, if
Speaker 6: they're loaded and they make a good, solid run and
Speaker 6: they get put out in an overtime classic semi final game. Man,
Speaker 6: that's tough, but this was still a good year in
Speaker 6: this new world. I don't believe this way, but I
Speaker 6: think there are a lot of Texas people who could
Speaker 6: find themselves saying this window's not going to be forever.
Speaker 6: And we've put ourselves in position where we're doing everything
Speaker 6: we're asked to do. We sell this place out and
Speaker 6: there are plenty of people turned away every Saturday. We
Speaker 6: are pumping tens of millions of dollars into this football
Speaker 6: program as basically a salary pool to acquire talent. This
Speaker 6: is not the olden days where it's a crap shoot
Speaker 6: and we got to develop players and we'll recruit them
Speaker 6: today and they'll play for us three years from now.
Speaker 6: This is a week and win now, and we're Texas,
Speaker 6: so we can win now in all caps because we
Speaker 6: got advantages that maybe one or two other teams in
Speaker 6: America has. If we can't win a title, that means
Speaker 6: the only thing keeping us from it is the head coach,
Speaker 6: and so it could get really uncomfort. That's the trade off.
Speaker 6: That guy knows that. Steve Sarkgan knows that. So this
Speaker 6: is not a mystery to him. It's the quint essential
Speaker 6: to who much is given much as expected kind of
Speaker 6: paradox in college football, because it's nice to have that
Speaker 6: loaded roster, it's nice to have the front office they have,
Speaker 6: and it's nice to never be kept up at night
Speaker 6: wondering if you're going to be deficient in any talent position.
Speaker 6: But the trade off is you better go win a
Speaker 6: national championship. It's like the Hermann Boone scene at the
Speaker 6: beginning of Remember the Titans. I'm afraid I'll put you
Speaker 6: in an untenable situation. Coach, you lose a game, they'll
Speaker 6: fire you. So you go put behind the stands and
Speaker 6: then you go take the field.
Speaker 3: Wipe your mouth and get after it. Yep, wipe your
Speaker 3: mouth and get after it. Have you looked at the text.
Speaker 5: I had some lord that I want to throw on
Speaker 5: top of that, good Laura. A lot of people talk
Speaker 5: about Joe Burrow's run in twenty nineteen, sure, but they
Speaker 5: talk about the year prior. There was a moment that
Speaker 5: created Joe Burrow. Does anybody know what that moment?
Speaker 6: It was him getting his mouth busted open? Where were
Speaker 6: they UCF? It was a bowl game?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was he threw it interception got blindsided.
Speaker 5: There was a similar moment Texas played Michigan.
Speaker 6: Oh our zoo men, Yeah, yeah yeah on the.
Speaker 5: Sideline play and he mouthed, I'm just going to stop
Speaker 5: giving a fuck and then he went off on Michigan after.
Speaker 3: It looks like Joe Burrow when he says that a
Speaker 3: little bit.
Speaker 5: People are saying that Arch might have that Joey be
Speaker 5: mentality this year. The monster may get.
Speaker 4: Your little juice up.
Speaker 3: Wich brings that up.
Speaker 6: It very much does, because it makes me think, is
Speaker 6: there a path this year where everyone's overthinking the room
Speaker 6: in August in July and Texas just goes scorched earth
Speaker 6: on everyone and it looks like Indiana looked last year,
Speaker 6: but with a more loaded roster, and they lay waste
Speaker 6: to the SEC and by the time they get to
Speaker 6: the game on the road at Missouri, it's like Texas
Speaker 6: minus twenty on the road against conference opponents. Yes, and
Speaker 6: we find ourselves asking at the end of the year,
Speaker 6: who could give Texas the best game in the playoffs
Speaker 6: instead of can Texas win in the playoffs? Because they're
Speaker 6: the only team in this conference with the kind of
Speaker 6: roster that if it all clicks could turn the conversation
Speaker 6: that violently one direction.
Speaker 3: The phrase who can give X team the best game?
Speaker 3: I feel like is a death sentence of a headline.
Speaker 3: When ESPN, Fox, all these other companies do that, that
Speaker 3: always tells me this team is going to get throttled
Speaker 3: in the second round of the playoffs.
Speaker 6: Except last year last what do you mean Indiana? People
Speaker 6: started to talk that way about Indiana last year?
Speaker 3: Yeah, but we were into what al they'd be in
Speaker 3: Alabama and the Rose Bowl. Yeah, and once they beat
Speaker 3: Alibama and Rose Bull, that conversation or at that point,
Speaker 3: you have, what two more games to win and it's
Speaker 3: all over. They had two more years, right, if you're
Speaker 3: in November and you're saying, what team is going to
Speaker 3: give this team even a good game? And the best
Speaker 3: example of that is Ohio State a couple of years ago.
Speaker 3: They had up winning the NEST Championship, but who Michigan
Speaker 3: came in and punched them right in the mouth, and
Speaker 3: that if you have a schedule like this, which I saw,
Speaker 3: this is more of a question for generally everybody because
Speaker 3: I'm starting to have difficult difficulty with strength of schedule,
Speaker 3: because if you know Nick Seaban came out says, just
Speaker 3: because you win championships doesn't mean you have the best conference.
Speaker 3: I disagree with that statement. I understand what he's trying
Speaker 3: to say. He's talking about for the meat potatoes of
Speaker 3: your conference is better than any other conference, therefore making
Speaker 3: you the best conference. But if I look at strength
Speaker 3: of schedule and where the Big Ten has been the
Speaker 3: last three four years, why are we looking at some
Speaker 3: of these schools in the SEC and being like, these
Speaker 3: schools are great when you go to bowl game season
Speaker 3: and these Big Ten teams are being the SEC to
Speaker 3: where is the is the schedule or these teams really
Speaker 3: as good as we say they are? Cynthy and Ila
Speaker 3: has taken off. This is open to the room. Doesn't
Speaker 3: have to be Josh bad that answers this. That's kind
Speaker 3: of where I like the strength of schedule conversation kind
Speaker 3: of I get a little lost.
Speaker 6: Can I make a point? Get his advice to everyone
Speaker 6: out there? Because this debate is going to be had
Speaker 6: a million times between now and the start of the season.
Speaker 6: NBA on, do you people notice how everyone in this bus,
Speaker 6: they're forty seven people in here right now, everyone kept
Speaker 6: their mouth shut and They let you get your full
Speaker 6: question out. They didn't jump on in the first third
Speaker 6: of the question and go down some rabbit hole. They
Speaker 6: let you get the full context and the full thought.
Speaker 6: It was painful because that was like a minute and
Speaker 6: a half long question, and they let you get the
Speaker 6: whole thing out. Yes, and that patiently sat here, all right,
Speaker 6: So then that's part one of my advice. Part two
Speaker 6: of my advice is I'm going to answer your question
Speaker 6: with a question, because I really want to drill down
Speaker 6: what specifically are we asking. Are we asking which conference
Speaker 6: is better? And how we define better? Are we defining
Speaker 6: which conference strength of schedule is tougher to play? Are
Speaker 6: we asking how does that really manifest itself come playoff time? Like,
Speaker 6: what specifically are we looking for? Because this is the
Speaker 6: thing I heard from Saban last week, and I heard
Speaker 6: him say one thing, and then I heard some people
Speaker 6: take it wildly different to and I listened. I intentionally
Speaker 6: listened to like five people's takes, and I sat there
Speaker 6: in silence, and I said, it really feels like we
Speaker 6: need to further drill down on what point we're trying
Speaker 6: to make here, because everyone went all kinds of different
Speaker 6: directions so what is it specifically you'd like to know?
Speaker 3: What I would like to know is how are we
Speaker 3: defining how good these teams are with their like the
Speaker 3: teams that they're playing. All right, let me actually think
Speaker 3: about this.
Speaker 6: It's important.
Speaker 3: It is important, quick tea, because I feel like we're
Speaker 3: on the edge of something right now. When we're looking
Speaker 3: at somebody's schedule, we're saying this is the strength of schedule.
Speaker 3: I feel like the majority of the world is looking
Speaker 3: at the logo still as opposed to the talent and
Speaker 3: how the Nile era has truly, whether you like it
Speaker 3: or not, how it's balanced out, how the dominance of
Speaker 3: the SEC and the Bay ten has taken place. And
Speaker 3: so when we look at the strength of schedule here
Speaker 3: you have one, two, three, four, five, six, Nine of
Speaker 3: the top ten teams are all SEC. So that is
Speaker 3: going to tell me that the SEC is the strongest conference. However,
Speaker 3: the SEC has not won a national championship in three years.
Speaker 3: In bowl games, which I will give the insurance policy
Speaker 3: of a lot of guys transfer they forgo the bowl games.
Speaker 3: Now things are moving around a lot of different ways,
Speaker 3: So the bol games don't really give us a feel.
Speaker 3: But in the last couple of years, Big ten has
Speaker 3: outperformed the SEC in bowl games against each other. So
Speaker 3: when I look at the top twenty five strength of
Speaker 3: schedule here given by ESPN, I don't understand. First off,
Speaker 3: how is Michigan not in this because if you look
Speaker 3: at who Michigan plays Penn State, Oklahoma, Ohio State, Oregon, Indiana,
Speaker 3: all right, three of the four of those teams were
Speaker 3: in the playoffs last year. Four of those teams two
Speaker 3: of them, two of them have won a national championship
Speaker 3: in the last two years. So how is that not
Speaker 3: in the top ten as opposed.
Speaker 4: To go up?
Speaker 3: Please?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 3: And I don't know these schedules. Everybody's schedule Arkansas, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I haven't looked at anything as far as Arkansas. I
Speaker 3: hope Tyson Chicken figures it out. Like you look at
Speaker 3: these schools, they're playing clearly SEC teams. But Michigan's playing
Speaker 3: two national championship winners in the last two years and
Speaker 3: two teams and four teams that are in the top fifteen.
Speaker 3: So help me understand that. Did I land that plane
Speaker 3: at all? For you?
Speaker 6: You landed, it bounced, it bounced, Yeah, you did it
Speaker 6: go around once and that's how kind of how I
Speaker 6: out here. No, you're asking what everyone's asking.
Speaker 3: Right, I would like a definitive yeah answer to that.
Speaker 6: There are different conversations to have here, right. Firstly, if
Speaker 6: I took who's your favorite to win the Super Bowl
Speaker 6: this year? Or is that premature? It's premature, but we'll
Speaker 6: just go Buffalo Bills. So if I took the Buffalo
Speaker 6: Bills and I dropped them in the Big Twelve this year,
Speaker 6: sure they would go twelve and zero in the regular season, Yes,
Speaker 6: and they would be the number one overall seed in
Speaker 6: the playoff. You would look at their schedule justifiably and
Speaker 6: say they didn't play the kind of schedule that Texas played. Sure,
Speaker 6: but that still be the Buffalo. That still be the
Speaker 6: overwhelming favorite to win it all. They'd win every college
Speaker 6: football playoff game by multiple touchdowns, and it would turn
Speaker 6: out that the quality of team they are did not
Speaker 6: necessarily correlate with the strength of schedule they played. So
Speaker 6: clearly there's a detachment between how good you are as
Speaker 6: a team and how difficult your schedule was. I think
Speaker 6: where the rub is is not what your schedule says
Speaker 6: about your ability to win a title, because Indiana was
Speaker 6: a national championship caliber team no matter who they played
Speaker 6: last year. The question becomes at the end of November,
Speaker 6: at the beginning of December, when they're selecting playoff teams.
Speaker 6: The question to me boils down ironically to like the nine, ten, eleven,
Speaker 6: twelve type seeds, because you're asking, if I'm nine to
Speaker 6: three and I played Oklahoma's schedule and you're ten and
Speaker 6: two and you played Oklahoma State's schedule or something like that,
Speaker 6: should I get benefit of doubt over you? And you
Speaker 6: could even talk about strength of r like I'm a
Speaker 6: big strength of record guy over strength of schedule. If
Speaker 6: my strength of record says even me at three losses
Speaker 6: is a better resume than you at two losses, that's
Speaker 6: where the rubber meets road on all this. Now that's
Speaker 6: period I begin a next sentence. You asked, if the
Speaker 6: Big Ten's winning championships, how could the SEC conference strength
Speaker 6: of schedule be looked at as more difficult? I think
Speaker 6: it's very simply that if you look at top three
Speaker 6: or four in Big Ten, they probably measure above and
Speaker 6: beyond top three or four in SEC. But I think
Speaker 6: there is still a lot of delineation between the second
Speaker 6: and third tier of the Big Ten and second and
Speaker 6: third tier of the SEC. If I took randomly the
Speaker 6: nine seed from the SEC this year, maybe it's Florida
Speaker 6: or someone like that, And I take the nine seed
Speaker 6: from the Big Ten, and I don't know who that
Speaker 6: would be, like Minnesota, someone like that. Clearly there's more
Speaker 6: future pro talent on Florida's roster than Minnesota's. So the
Speaker 6: working theory is, if I have to go play Florida,
Speaker 6: even if that team's in route to a six and
Speaker 6: six year year, it doesn't change the fact that if
Speaker 6: I face that group of talent on the right Saturday,
Speaker 6: they can get me. They have more difference makers on
Speaker 6: the field than Minnesota would have. This is just on
Speaker 6: an average Saturday. Or if let's say Georgia goes and
Speaker 6: place Florida, and let's say Ohio State goes and plays Minnesota,
Speaker 6: there is probably no one starting from Minnesota that Ohio
Speaker 6: State would trade starters for just one for one. Georgia
Speaker 6: may be the best team in this league this year,
Speaker 6: there will be players for Florida who are starting against
Speaker 6: Georgia that Georgia would gladly trade for one for one.
Speaker 6: So That's where the strength of schedule argument comes down to.
Speaker 6: But it doesn't mean just because you faced a tougher
Speaker 6: strength of schedule that you're a better team than someone.
Speaker 6: And lastly, back to the Bowl example, I don't value
Speaker 6: Bowl outcomes at all. I don't think you need Bowl
Speaker 6: results to make the Big Tens case, by the way,
Speaker 6: but I will say I've had a working theory for
Speaker 6: a couple of years now. You could tie it to coaching,
Speaker 6: but you could also tie it downstream to overall pride
Speaker 6: and perform romance. I just think the Big Ten is
Speaker 6: better at hiring because they had to be for a
Speaker 6: long time because they could not count on a talent
Speaker 6: edge to bail them out. And then all of a sudden,
Speaker 6: the SEC doesn't have the big talent edge anymore and
Speaker 6: they're getting exposed on the margins and inn point two.
Speaker 6: I think straight up, the pride and performance of the
Speaker 6: way Big Ten teams play is different than the way
Speaker 6: average SEC teams play. Yeah, I just think there's a
Speaker 6: lot more pride in playing for the brand on the
Speaker 6: helmet in the Big Ten in some cases than there
Speaker 6: is in the SEC.
Speaker 3: Do you think there's more pride in the brand of
Speaker 3: the big individual BA ten team playing for the Big
Speaker 3: Ten in the SEC.
Speaker 6: I think the team oriented cultures at many places in
Speaker 6: the Big Ten is better than what it should be
Speaker 6: in the.
Speaker 3: SEC internally on the roster, because I was going to
Speaker 3: say SEC love to tell you that the SEC is
Speaker 3: the best.
Speaker 6: They do.
Speaker 3: They love doing that. So where do we land?
Speaker 6: I think the Big Ten is the best conference in
Speaker 6: college football because I measure best by how many national
Speaker 6: championship capable teams do I think you have? And I
Speaker 6: think the Big Ten has several. And I think the
Speaker 6: SEC may have won this year with others that can
Speaker 6: insert themselves into that discussion. So that's where I land.
Speaker 6: But also, if Nick Saban's point was that Texas is
Speaker 6: going to play a harder schedule than Penn State, well
Speaker 6: he's valid, that's true. It doesn't change the reality that
Speaker 6: if Penn State's better than Georgia, they're better than Georgia.
Speaker 6: Georgia just had a tougher path to get to the
Speaker 6: end of November than Penn State did. Yes, so it's
Speaker 6: important to contextualize strength of schedule and strength of record properly,
Speaker 6: but it almost never gets presented that way. And I
Speaker 6: think he did a great job right there, because you're
Speaker 6: when you look at the best conference, you're looking at
Speaker 6: the top teams and the best conference and how they
Speaker 6: fare against all the other conferences. And let me let
Speaker 6: me illustrate that. Let me tell you how people could
Speaker 6: get their logic thrown back in their face. This year,
Speaker 6: Let's say Texas goes sixteen to oh, undefeated, they win
Speaker 6: the national title. Let's say the next best team in
Speaker 6: the SEC went eight and four in the regular season.
Speaker 6: So Texas was great, everyone else was average? It best?
Speaker 6: Was that a good year for the SEC? Did the
Speaker 6: SEC prove they were the best conference in America because
Speaker 6: they won the national title?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 3: The answer that would be no.
Speaker 6: I think it's no. Yeah, But if the only thing
Speaker 6: you're going off of is national championships, then the SEC
Speaker 6: proved themselves. To me, what makes the Big Ten so
Speaker 6: robust is not just they've won back to back to
Speaker 6: back titles and may win a fourth one this year.
Speaker 6: I'd probably pick them to win a fourth one this year.
Speaker 6: It's that they've done it with multiple teams, and other
Speaker 6: teams that weren't previously in the equation, I e. Indiana
Speaker 6: have gotten their act together, so like they're a more
Speaker 6: robust top of conference. It's not just Ohio State anymore.
Speaker 6: Michigan's done it, Ohio State's done it, Indiana's done it,
Speaker 6: Oregon hasn't done it, but may very well do it
Speaker 6: this year. And then the question becomes, all right, what's
Speaker 6: the equivalent of that in the SEC? You can't tell
Speaker 6: me you have that right now?
Speaker 4: Right? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Absolutely, I agree with that, and you're saying Nick Saban.
Speaker 3: His argument is, we don't have to worry about what
Speaker 3: the top of the conference is. Look look at the
Speaker 3: whole conference as a whole.
Speaker 6: I think those guys in the SEC understand Mississippi State
Speaker 6: any given year is gonna have a really bad record
Speaker 6: and you don't get any credit if you beat them.
Speaker 6: But every time you play Mississippi State, they randomly have
Speaker 6: line of scrimmage talent that's gonna play on Sunday. They
Speaker 6: randomly have a safety that's going to be a round
Speaker 6: two pick down the road, there's some random freak short receiver,
Speaker 6: and they come out of that game having won a
Speaker 6: dog fight, and they think to themselves that team's gonna
Speaker 6: end up being five and seven. We're gonna get criticized
Speaker 6: for playing them close, and yet I watched the caliber
Speaker 6: of athlete that was on the field today. They didn't
Speaker 6: have as many of them as we do. They didn't
Speaker 6: have the depth of them that we do. But that
Speaker 6: was not an easy thing we just went through today.
Speaker 6: Whereas if I went and played Perdue, I would not
Speaker 6: be saying that. That's kind of their attitude.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, the same thing goes for a team like
Speaker 3: South Carolina. Vanderbilt starting to get to that point now too,
Speaker 3: like they're starting to have more NFL talent around, Like
Speaker 3: JP Hovey. Every time we watch this game on Sunday,
Speaker 3: pointing out five game cocks that are on that are playing,
Speaker 3: It's like, how do you guys never put it together?
Speaker 3: Put it together and go win. It's just wild, man,
Speaker 3: It's wild. What was the scroll up?
Speaker 4: A quick? Oh?
Speaker 3: I can't believe this, LSU.
Speaker 4: That to me is the.
Speaker 3: Biggest wildcard of this entire college football season. I agree
Speaker 3: with you because the issue last year with Brian Kelly.
Speaker 3: Besides Brian Kelly was the offense.
Speaker 6: Great sentence, great scouting.
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, the offense was an issue. Lane
Speaker 3: Kiffin comes in, regardless of all the extra noise it
Speaker 3: took place how he left Old miss all those things.
Speaker 3: If he can do one thing, it's he can scheme
Speaker 3: up a great offensive game plan weekend and week out
Speaker 3: where they can score anybody, and put a roster together,
Speaker 3: and put a roster together which I believe is over
Speaker 3: forty million dollars. I don't know if that's confirmed or not,
Speaker 3: but forty million dollars roster. They grabbed Sam Levitt from ASU,
Speaker 3: who a couple of years ago when done to the
Speaker 3: wire with Texas, and then last year they forgot about
Speaker 3: him after he gets an injury when he was averaging
Speaker 3: over forty fifty yards rushing and throwing the baller over
Speaker 3: the yard. A bit of a dogfight with who Mississippi State,
Speaker 3: but they ran zero once again that got them killed
Speaker 3: in the playoffs. And also the last play of the
Speaker 3: game against Mississippi State. So I see this quarterback and
Speaker 3: then a barrage of NFL talent that's on there. Lane
Speaker 3: Kiffin comes in the prodigal Sun. Is this like a
Speaker 3: boomer and bus situation for LSU or can we give
Speaker 3: a little more leeway because now LSU is officially gone
Speaker 3: all in? They did the Brian Kelly experiment. I think
Speaker 3: from day one. We all sat there after that first
Speaker 3: press conference and go, this shit's not going to work out.
Speaker 3: This is water and oil. This is not going This
Speaker 3: is not something that blends together.
Speaker 4: Ever.
Speaker 3: Lane Kiffin is quirky and all over the place.
Speaker 4: He is.
Speaker 3: This guy's a great fit for LSU. I personally liked him.
Speaker 3: I liked them as a dark horse in the sc conference.
Speaker 3: Dark horse dark horse, forty million dollar dark for forty
Speaker 3: million dollars dark horse for the based on the conversation
Speaker 3: we're having right now, because you got Texas. We just
Speaker 3: broke down Texas. We talked a little bit about Georgia.
Speaker 3: At the end of the day. Kirby Smart, his culture,
Speaker 3: Gunnerstock and the way he puts the team on his back.
Speaker 3: But then you look at the perimeter, so there's your
Speaker 3: question marks there. Alabama they were one hundred and what
Speaker 3: thirty eighth in rushing last year, so they're they're really
Speaker 3: really bad as what they were. They're really bad. It
Speaker 3: shows you how good Ty Simpson was throughout the entire
Speaker 3: year for them. They put them into the playoffs, and
Speaker 3: then there's LSU, who is one behind them in rushing,
Speaker 3: and they go in the portal they get the best
Speaker 3: offensive lineman. Is its seating?
Speaker 4: Yep, that you get Seaton in.
Speaker 3: The portal, they go re energize their entire offensive line.
Speaker 3: Do they just look like a team that has put
Speaker 3: the pieces together? And then the conversation comes up is, well,
Speaker 3: you got a bunch of missionary of mercenaries once again
Speaker 3: going to a team Texas Tech did.
Speaker 4: It last year?
Speaker 6: Missionaries?
Speaker 3: We used to call the missionaries just one guy on top,
Speaker 3: girl on bottom. Let it rip all, Oh the missionary positions?
Speaker 3: What I was going for? You know what, that's probably
Speaker 3: where the alleged frat boy top comes in. That's my bad.
Speaker 4: That's not bad.
Speaker 3: That's we shouldn't have that on this show because we're
Speaker 3: not a frat show. That being said, that's my long
Speaker 3: winded way of saying I like LSU a lot in
Speaker 3: the SEC, and.
Speaker 6: They could be a nasty team. So the only team
Speaker 6: worse than Alabama rushing the ball in the SEC last
Speaker 6: year was LSU. Yes, but LSU went out and they
Speaker 6: took proactive measures to fix that. You mentioned the offensive
Speaker 6: line acquisitions. If offensive line is good for them, they
Speaker 6: should be good enough at tailback. They could be a
Speaker 6: nasty team. This year, A couple of questions with them. First,
Speaker 6: firstly is a question with people, that's it right, oh perfect?
Speaker 6: Any portal heavy team, you're always gonna ask how does
Speaker 6: this talent talent mesh together. It feels like that's a
Speaker 6: little bit of an overused doubting point these days, like
Speaker 6: it's gonna it's gonna work to some degree. I think
Speaker 6: the follow up question is this the kind of team
Speaker 6: that needs a long runway to get up to speed
Speaker 6: because they don't really have it. They play three losable
Speaker 6: games in their first four weeks because I count Clemson
Speaker 6: as a losable game. Yep, you don't. You have no
Speaker 6: idea Week one FSU of Alabama last year. You have
Speaker 6: no idea what Week one could bring. But with LS you,
Speaker 6: I don't believe in throwing out the dollar figure. The
Speaker 6: dollar figure is nothing without attaching the players to the
Speaker 6: dollar figure. So did you go by the right players?
Speaker 6: And I think they bought the right players, so like
Speaker 6: I think they could make a quantum leap this year.
Speaker 6: But it is I agree with you, it's a little
Speaker 6: more of a dark horse situation because you have no idea.
Speaker 6: You just your mind is so used to the traditional
Speaker 6: way of judging teams that when you have so much
Speaker 6: newness in the bucket in such a competitive league, you
Speaker 6: struggle to see a team immediately jump into the top.
Speaker 6: But Lane Kiffin's lived the life he's going to live
Speaker 6: this year for a long time now. That's what they
Speaker 6: were doing at Ole Miss. They were just putting together
Speaker 6: a team year by year. At ole Miss, they weren't
Speaker 6: recruiting and developing. They had already divorced themselves from the
Speaker 6: myth that that was how it was going to work.
Speaker 6: So it's not like he's an unfamiliar territory here. It's
Speaker 6: just a lot of new And that's okay because they're
Speaker 6: not the only ones trying to pull that off. They're
Speaker 6: just the most extreme example of it.
Speaker 3: It's a lot of new and it takes a leader
Speaker 3: of men to get all those guys to cohesively come together.
Speaker 3: Joey maguire is a great example. We were there for
Speaker 3: this bring to her. I mean, there's not a better
Speaker 3: vibe than Joey MacGuire. When you walk into that building,
Speaker 3: He's given you. He grabbed all of us by the
Speaker 3: shoulders in the back. He's loving us up. He brought
Speaker 3: a couple of guys over look at this one. He's
Speaker 3: showing them off like prize possessions. Look at the size
Speaker 3: of my tackles that I have today, and you see that.
Speaker 3: I don't personally know Lane. I know you know Lane
Speaker 3: is Does Lane have that capability to take a forty
Speaker 3: million dollars roster, a bunch of missionaries coming in here
Speaker 3: and bringing them together throughout the entire spring and into
Speaker 3: the fall, to do what Joey did at Texas Tech?
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, unequivalent to yes, he's already done it. He's
Speaker 6: already done it. If Lane were here, and we do
Speaker 6: have a third chair open today, Yeah, if Lane were here,
Speaker 6: he could listen to this, if we injected him with
Speaker 6: truth serum, and he could say, why are you asking?
Speaker 6: Can I do this? I already did it? Did you
Speaker 6: not just watch what I did at Ole Miss We
Speaker 6: did something there over a rolling stretch that's never happened
Speaker 6: in the history of that program. It's never happened. So
Speaker 6: you're telling me, I'm going to a place that I
Speaker 6: think is better. This is Lane talking with better re sources.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna have a better talent roster. I got the
Speaker 6: quarterback I need. And you're asking me with the full
Speaker 6: wind of LSU and my sales, if I can do this, Like,
Speaker 6: why would you doubt me? It's almost like I've already
Speaker 6: had this talk. Yeah, it sounds like you already have
Speaker 6: have you It sounds like I've already had that talk.
Speaker 6: It seems that way, it feels. Yeah, I just don't
Speaker 6: think there's a lack of confidence in Louisiana State University.
Speaker 6: That's what I'm gonna That's what I want to leave
Speaker 6: you with.
Speaker 3: No doubt, Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 5: Any thoughts on that Week three matchup?
Speaker 3: Pretty big miss, pretty biblical? I mean, this is I
Speaker 3: mean Saba had another conversation about this. I don't know
Speaker 3: if it was the same interview he was doing, but
Speaker 3: he was talking about how he was at LSU when
Speaker 3: the NAS Championship goes to Miami in his first coaching
Speaker 3: job back in college with Alabama goes to play LSU,
Speaker 3: and that whole student section was killing him with there're
Speaker 3: hours before the game, just murdriam. He said, this will
Speaker 3: be ten times worse when Lane Kiffin comes Old Miss.
Speaker 6: To me, to me, you got a lot to live
Speaker 6: up to. The old MIS fan base has a lot
Speaker 6: to live up to. When's the last time everyone circled
Speaker 6: an Old Miss home game and built this myth, this
Speaker 6: idea up in their mind of what the with the
Speaker 6: Old Miss fan base is going to create, like in
Speaker 6: terms of an environment that hasn't happened in a long time,
Speaker 6: unless you gets that stuff. Sometimes, Yeah, like Ohio State
Speaker 6: and people talk about Michigan going in there. It's so
Speaker 6: it's going to be nasty, it's going to be a
Speaker 6: tough environment. When's the last time we talked about that
Speaker 6: with Old Miss. That's a lot to live up to.
Speaker 6: Here's the problem. The problem sometimes is those kinds of
Speaker 6: games end up being your highest priced games, which means
Speaker 6: the richest of the alumni are the ones that grab
Speaker 6: up all the tickets. They're normally not the ones that
Speaker 6: are leaving the stadium with no voice afterwards. So a
Speaker 6: lot of times the deliverable does not match the hype
Speaker 6: on those games. And you tell me, you couldn't see
Speaker 6: Lane Kiffin walking out of there with a thirty twenty
Speaker 6: three win, walking to the podium and saying something along
Speaker 6: the lines of we probably played in ten or fifteen
Speaker 6: venues louder than this one. It was a good, solid environment,
Speaker 6: but you know it's this is not the toughest we'll
Speaker 6: deal with this year. You're telling me you couldn't see that.
Speaker 3: That the postgame press conference, I can completely see early
Speaker 3: thoughts thirty to twenty three. I can't see.
Speaker 6: Oh, it's just hypothetically.
Speaker 5: I know, I know, I know.
Speaker 3: But if Lane hung on to because I'm thinking, this
Speaker 3: is a game where Lane pulls out all the stops,
Speaker 3: he flexes his offensive muscle, and late in the game
Speaker 3: they have a chance taking me and they're on the
Speaker 3: fifteen yard line and he goes, let's just go to
Speaker 3: the back of one. We need these guys to get
Speaker 3: work and then go for two. We need these guys
Speaker 3: to get work. Wait, Lane, why'd you do it? You
Speaker 3: know what, We're still developing as a team. I want
Speaker 3: to make sure that guys got in able to do
Speaker 3: what they needed to do and see if they can
Speaker 3: work for us in October November.
Speaker 5: My only thought as far as fandom goes of ole
Speaker 5: Miss and my warning to the ole Miss fans is
Speaker 5: do not overdo it in the grove. Save it for
Speaker 5: the game. That's the only place where I could see
Speaker 5: the ole Miss fans faltering as they overdo it. Grove
Speaker 5: and then we're having some fights in the stands. Too
Speaker 5: many people are getting kicked out. Hey, stop their own
Speaker 5: stuff a little too early.
Speaker 6: You want to know what I worry about? Could you
Speaker 6: pull up all missus schedule right quick? Talking about the
Speaker 6: old SEC strength of schedule flex? How about play LSU.
Speaker 6: It gets built up as a super Bowl. We're just
Speaker 6: going to have you head to Gainesville a week later
Speaker 6: against an upstart Gators team under John SUMMERL don't really
Speaker 6: know what they're going to be bringing. But the hangover
Speaker 6: effect of that LSU game will be true either way,
Speaker 6: win or lose. If they win Florida by double digits
Speaker 6: the next week, clearly, but even if they lose. Hey,
Speaker 6: follow up question, what happened in week one? Did you
Speaker 6: get past Louisville in week one? Don't know?
Speaker 4: Don't know?
Speaker 6: Is that the surprise like team that bombs September?
Speaker 3: Is this the Penn State of twenty six?
Speaker 6: I don't want to go that far. That's that's tough.
Speaker 3: I mean that would be it would be you say September,
Speaker 3: so technically wouldn't be. But the team that.
Speaker 6: Penn State lost egregious games though Penn State fell apart there.
Speaker 3: It just showed their foundation the pressure of you have
Speaker 3: to win a national championship. You have to get it done.
Speaker 3: Ten and two is no longer good enough.
Speaker 6: They said that.
Speaker 3: Franklin said that the minute that Oregon Oregon game happened,
Speaker 3: oh boy, it was. I mean, you saw it. We
Speaker 3: all saw it.
Speaker 4: We knew that early in the season though, from.
Speaker 3: Inside sources, inside sources, we knew that that Mitch had
Speaker 3: an Oklahoma quarter zip situation.
Speaker 4: You knew that that culture was a bit of an
Speaker 4: issue well before everything happened.
Speaker 5: The Mitch cur is real judge of cultures. They wouldn't
Speaker 5: let us there.
Speaker 6: So that's it.
Speaker 4: It's the way they don't let you there. It's the
Speaker 4: way that you can get.
Speaker 3: Keep Like like Kurt Signetti, they told us, listen, we're
Speaker 3: keeping in the house. Only Josh Pa can come in
Speaker 3: our building. Okay, all good, But the way they were
Speaker 3: so blunt and so a matter of fact, and we're
Speaker 3: not gonna let it happen, busting with the boys. It's like,
Speaker 3: I'm still good with that. Give me another day, given
Speaker 3: another opportunity. Kurt Signetti is my head coaching college football.
Speaker 3: Equippally to Joe Burrow for me. That's kind of the
Speaker 3: world I live in with Kurt now, the way Penn
Speaker 3: State was handled last year, the way quarters Zip was
Speaker 3: handled last year. Am I praying on downfalls? Yeah a
Speaker 3: little bit.
Speaker 6: Miss did your story get fully told publicly?
Speaker 4: I know it? I feel like you may. I know it.
Speaker 6: I'm asking like, does everyone know what you're thinking?
Speaker 3: Is he there anymore?
Speaker 4: Yes? He is.
Speaker 3: Okay, well leave names out, but leave names out.
Speaker 4: So one of my former coaches.
Speaker 3: Okay, well there's a there's a rabbit hole for the
Speaker 3: boys going down right there, Saysquehanna.
Speaker 6: Mitch Reddit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I already said that. I hit him up
Speaker 4: and said, hey, we're we do our fault false tour.
Speaker 4: We wanted to go to the Oregon game.
Speaker 3: Career you were talking about orgon Penn State, which was.
Speaker 4: The white out, and he's like, let me ask you
Speaker 4: one question. What fan are you? What college football fan
Speaker 4: are you? I said, I'm an Ohio State fan, thinking
Speaker 4: he was just joshing with me, I mean, and then
Speaker 4: his next response is, we don't. We don't mess with
Speaker 4: that around here, like it's Penn State rider down. I'm like, listen,
Speaker 4: completely understand that. However, we've gone done ample amount of schools.
Speaker 4: Will and Taylor just love showing off the campus, Like,
Speaker 4: what the what the school has all your facilities.
Speaker 6: Ryan Day just came on the show.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all of that, and he's like, Josh, no, we
Speaker 4: don't we don't play that. Yeah, we don't play that here.
Speaker 3: So and then yeah, I'll tell you what, dude, you're
Speaker 3: telling that story pissed me off. But what pissed me
Speaker 3: off more is that comment.
Speaker 4: He just made it.
Speaker 3: Because I we used to have the monitor right here
Speaker 3: and finding Josh wants to sit in the locker room.
Speaker 3: But I see the way you were looking away from
Speaker 3: the camera, and you knew.
Speaker 6: I knew, and I knew that they didn't.
Speaker 4: The world didn't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but yeah, Hey, shout out Ryan Day. Shout out
Speaker 3: Ryan Day for body bagging me this show, turning us down,
Speaker 3: winning the game and going, you know what, I'll come
Speaker 3: on that show you said, you said, you'll go ahead
Speaker 3: move that, you know, NBC Fox Interview. I'm gonna go
Speaker 3: on busting with the boys to look Tailor Wan in
Speaker 3: the eyes. Heyten, we don't have to like each other,
Speaker 3: but I will say I respect Ryan Day at this point.
Speaker 3: At this point, huge win for Ryan Day, let's get
Speaker 3: back to let's get off of my soapbox. Let's get
Speaker 3: back on Penn State for just a second. That's that's lame, right,
Speaker 3: and almost use the G word there. That's the lame.
Speaker 3: We can't do that.
Speaker 6: But you're telling me he's still there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, one of my one of my buddies actually went
Speaker 4: up there for a job interview and was with him
Speaker 4: and like, he's pretty high up there. No, no, like player,
Speaker 4: I think we need to talk.
Speaker 3: Exactly. But hey, listen, this is all allegedly when it
Speaker 3: comes out and this guy gets mad, we said, we
Speaker 3: didn't say your name. We didn't say your name. It's
Speaker 3: not our fault that these fans decided to go put
Speaker 3: put it in their hands.
Speaker 6: Think if we were to have a conversation, he would understand.
Speaker 6: But let's just say this too clearly. It's a new
Speaker 6: day at Penn State. Matt Campbell would never do that.
Speaker 8: Matt Cambell Campbell, if we offered to go there, he
Speaker 8: would he would offer open arms.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. With the culture of Penn
Speaker 4: State with Franklin, they were so fucking whatever that I
Speaker 4: think now that they have Campbell, everything that Josh said
Speaker 4: about Campbell, I like, I do feel good about Penn State,
Speaker 4: and I would like to think that things have they
Speaker 4: turned a new page.
Speaker 3: It's making a lot of sense too, because this happened
Speaker 3: before the year even started, and we've already kind of
Speaker 3: broke down the pressures that were taking place with Franklin,
Speaker 3: how they have to win. The alumnis pissed off the board.
Speaker 3: Whoever's overseeing Penn State. They're like, this is the year.
Speaker 3: If you don't get it done, we're done. And the
Speaker 3: pressure is obviously a leaked down. And we saw it
Speaker 3: happen after the Oregon game that but I think you
Speaker 3: saw it a little bit earlier in August. We were
Speaker 3: trying to make decisions whether whether we could or could
Speaker 3: not go there.
Speaker 4: I think it was the first couple of weeks of
Speaker 4: the season and.
Speaker 3: I can't listen. I don't know Matt Campbell. The only
Speaker 3: thing I know about Matt Campbell is what Josh Pats
Speaker 3: told me. Seems like the guys are homie. It seems
Speaker 3: like he's a future friend of the show.
Speaker 4: In my opinion, Rock Party taught when he was on
Speaker 4: the show, loved him.
Speaker 3: Loved him, and their schedule too love. Oh my god,
Speaker 3: what I would give a schedule like that this year.
Speaker 5: I don't want to rev salt in the win. But
Speaker 5: if a podcast being on your sideline is going to
Speaker 5: determine whether or not you win or lose.
Speaker 4: A game, right, maybe they'll have one of the many
Speaker 4: energies are in the wrong place.
Speaker 3: There, energies are in the wrong place.
Speaker 6: Majoring in minors is what memo called that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a great bar. By the way, it's the
Speaker 3: second or third time I've heard you say that the
Speaker 3: last few months.
Speaker 6: And slightly related, No love Virginia Tech.
Speaker 4: This year.
Speaker 3: I'm kind of on pull up Virginia Tech schedule because Franklin,
Speaker 3: that's what Penn State you now, Yeah, that's where I
Speaker 3: kind of get a little lost on Penn State this year.
Speaker 3: But schedules money. I was literally trying to tell I
Speaker 3: was trying to tell the Commission of College Football Josh
Speaker 3: Bate last time he was with us, like, I don't
Speaker 3: know about Penn State this year. I just want to
Speaker 3: abate twelve. I just don't think that. I don't think
Speaker 3: he'd be a competitive playoff roster. And then he's like,
Speaker 3: go look at their schedule and walked away, walk to
Speaker 3: the back of our shop to the point where I
Speaker 3: looked it up. I was in the same place. There's
Speaker 3: only one exit in our shop, and I was like, hey,
Speaker 3: where's Josh. You were gone like you ninja smoked me
Speaker 3: and got out. That schedule is unbelievable.
Speaker 4: Is this it right here?
Speaker 6: No, that's Virginia Tech.
Speaker 4: Virginia Tech.
Speaker 3: All right, whatever that is vm I sounds like a
Speaker 3: venereal disease, a military.
Speaker 6: Inst that's what they play week one. Okay, keep going.
Speaker 3: Old Dominion, Maryland Dubb, Boston College Dub not a Bill
Speaker 3: O'Brian fan, Pittsburg. How do you feel about.
Speaker 6: Pittall, Well, hold on, you're just kind of skipping through
Speaker 6: all this stuff, like Dub Dub dub. Well, if they're
Speaker 6: not what they think they are, you can't just be
Speaker 6: skimming over all this stuff. But I agree with you.
Speaker 6: Dubb Dub Dub Dub.
Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, Pitt Pitt When when cal When that's at
Speaker 3: col Okay, And that's where it brings up the coast
Speaker 3: to coast flights.
Speaker 6: You know Cow's quarterback.
Speaker 4: No, I don't.
Speaker 3: He's a dog. Who is it?
Speaker 4: All right? Okay?
Speaker 6: If it's one of yea Garon Kiahwe Saga Paula Telly impressive,
Speaker 6: he's good.
Speaker 3: Jared, what's his name is?
Speaker 6: Jared or Jarun? Jared Kiahwe Sagapoula Telly is the second
Speaker 6: and third part of it. I think if I can
Speaker 6: get Jared or Jared, that's easy. The second part of
Speaker 6: that last name, Kiahwe Sagapaulay.
Speaker 4: Where he come from? Is he born? Is he transferred?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: But what's did he did? He transferred him from.
Speaker 6: Where he's been?
Speaker 4: There he's been?
Speaker 5: Where was it he he flipped late?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 6: He was at Oregon?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 6: Oregon?
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then one.
Speaker 6: Oh, I got you know what, we're not telling that story,
Speaker 6: but he was. I'll tell you later. He was at
Speaker 6: organ for it, I'll tell you. So he he committed
Speaker 6: to Oregon. I think this is the guy. He commits
Speaker 6: to Oregon. He's there for their Bowl practices or playoff
Speaker 6: practices two years ago. And then he asked for his release.
Speaker 6: And the thinking is he got on campus and he
Speaker 6: saw Dante Moore and realized, I don't think I'm beating
Speaker 6: him out, and I want to play immediately, And I
Speaker 6: mean Oregon's pissed at it obviously, because like you think
Speaker 6: a guy's coming in there to fortify your roster at
Speaker 6: that position for two or three years to come, and
Speaker 6: all of a sudden he wants to hit the exit door.
Speaker 6: So like, what are you gonna do? From an optics perspective,
Speaker 6: If you fight it, then you get labeled in the
Speaker 6: agency world as their anti player. And so Landing had
Speaker 6: a tough decision to make and they just they let
Speaker 6: him go. It's but he's clearly a good player because
Speaker 6: he's gonna go to Cal this year. Dude, they may
Speaker 6: end up having like the best second best quarterback in
Speaker 6: the Big ten. He's gonna be way up there in
Speaker 6: terms of a sec not big ten overall, like a
Speaker 6: big ten, big turn.
Speaker 3: I just take everything you say as one hundred percent.
Speaker 6: Oh my, oh my dams, but I think Darian, I
Speaker 6: think Darien Mens is the best quarterback in that league.
Speaker 6: Who's the second best quarterback in the league. You may
Speaker 6: very well be looking at it.
Speaker 3: The name you said that I can't pronounce still.
Speaker 8: Sharon caw Way, Psycopolo tellitgy. I do find it funny
Speaker 8: that you did crush his name. It's Jaron j R.
Speaker 4: O N.
Speaker 8: But they call him JKS for short jks, but very
Speaker 8: impressive Josh Fay, but we'll call them jks.
Speaker 3: Okay, so Cal, I think Cal is gonna be a
Speaker 3: tough game for that. Yeah, okay, Cal's a dog fight.
Speaker 3: Let's put that as an l uh. Georgia Tech.
Speaker 4: A lot of newness down there.
Speaker 3: A lot of news. All of a running back if
Speaker 3: he can stay.
Speaker 6: Healthy, Menz's brother at quarterback and nice kind of nice.
Speaker 6: I went and watched them scrimmage in the spring and
Speaker 6: it was so classic. Wow play wow play. Oh no,
Speaker 6: wow play Oh no. It's like every other play is
Speaker 6: either jaws on the ground for a good reason or
Speaker 6: jaws on the ground and then get out of the
Speaker 6: way cause the corners taking the ball the other way.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you this, dude, when you go and
Speaker 3: you watch these spring practices, what is your thought process
Speaker 3: on just putting a stamp on these players, Like do
Speaker 3: you sit back and go, Okay, I'm only watching one practice,
Speaker 3: so I'm not going to put my one hundred percent
Speaker 3: opinion on these guys or you. What you see is
Speaker 3: what you get, and that is now going to define
Speaker 3: your opinion for the rest of the year.
Speaker 6: Can't let that happen watching one practice. Right, What I
Speaker 6: like to do is I'm using First off, I'm using
Speaker 6: my eyeballs. These are not a coach's eyeballs, So I've
Speaker 6: got to I got to take that into consideration. You
Speaker 6: know what stands out to you? A lot of times
Speaker 6: you're going in there and you have opinions of guys
Speaker 6: and you want your eyes to verify everything from heightweight,
Speaker 6: to explosivity to where is he fitting in the depth chart?
Speaker 6: Is what we've been told publicly matching up with what
Speaker 6: my eyes are seeing. And then what you want to
Speaker 6: do is you want to ask the coaching staff as
Speaker 6: many questions kind of trying to verify what you saw,
Speaker 6: because a lot of times, like there was a there
Speaker 6: was a moment I'm not going to say the team,
Speaker 6: but there was a moment this last spring where I
Speaker 6: see a guy and I just so happened to see
Speaker 6: him on like his career day, and I ask and
Speaker 6: I get told that guy's not going to be a
Speaker 6: factor on this team this fall, no way, and just
Speaker 6: point blank that guy's not unless we have tons of injury,
Speaker 6: that guy's probably not going to be a factor. A
Speaker 6: little bit of a character thing, but also he's wildly inconsistent.
Speaker 6: But to me, I watched ninety minutes and I think,
Speaker 6: is that a dark horse all conference guy? You know,
Speaker 6: it turns out he's just dark. He's just a dark horse.
Speaker 6: He's just going to be off the radar.
Speaker 4: Well, I call.
Speaker 3: It huh yeah, because it nothing bothers me more than
Speaker 3: when people go to a spring practice. They see players
Speaker 3: and they may or may not have a good or
Speaker 3: a bad day, and they want to define that person.
Speaker 6: Gotta be careful.
Speaker 3: Gotta be careful, even if you played in the NFL,
Speaker 3: even if you're a potential Hall of Fame guy, even
Speaker 3: if you're a dB you know that has been watching
Speaker 3: quarterbacks your whole entire life. Those are the types of things.
Speaker 3: I'm like, you need to stay away from that type.
Speaker 6: Of You gotta be careful about this too. You guys
Speaker 6: went and sell Miami in the spring. Yeah, Miami's defensive line.
Speaker 6: There are guys out in the spring, So you got
Speaker 6: to be careful what you're watching and then like contextualize
Speaker 6: it with or how good do I think that unit's
Speaker 6: going to be? Well, they looked a little iffy today. Well,
Speaker 6: first off, they were in shells. Secondly, three starters are
Speaker 6: out at that unit, so like, how do I I
Speaker 6: just got to contextualize it all properly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, because when I watched when I was
Speaker 3: in Miami and we had this conversation of, hey, the
Speaker 3: offensive line looks really good. But I've never walked into
Speaker 3: watching one on ones, been a part of them, washed
Speaker 3: them on film, watched other teams where an O line
Speaker 3: wins ninety percent of the reps. And then you go
Speaker 3: back from the two guys they had last year the
Speaker 3: book in defensive ends, it's like, oh, there's a huge
Speaker 3: drop off, and then we go in the crystal ball
Speaker 3: and he's like, just so you guys know, we have
Speaker 3: a bunch of guys out sitting there, whether it's injuries
Speaker 3: or resting guys or whatever. Yeah, Miami, I'm excited to
Speaker 3: watch this. I mean they're clearly they're the like you
Speaker 3: talked about Texas and the SEC Miami. Is that of
Speaker 3: the acc.
Speaker 6: There've been Over the past week, I was really trying
Speaker 6: to nail down my national title pick, and I've gone
Speaker 6: back and forth, so I'm not nailed down on it,
Speaker 6: but there were two of the last seven days where
Speaker 6: I laid my head on my pillow thinking I'm gonna
Speaker 6: pick Miami to win the national title. Wow, that's how
Speaker 6: high I am on this Christ of Ball is a
Speaker 6: homie too. I mean that is one school. Two is
Speaker 6: pointing out SMU. I was gonna go the one before that, Clemson,
Speaker 6: Like dabble, what is what? It's a future for Dabbo.
Speaker 6: If it doesn't go the way we want to, that's all.
Speaker 4: That's a whole show, right, that's all.
Speaker 3: And we don't have to do We've been on here
Speaker 3: for two hours. We don't have to go through all
Speaker 3: of that just but it could get rocky fast. It's
Speaker 3: the most unique situation of any major program. Sark is
Speaker 3: unique for one reason. Dabo's unique for a totally different reason. Like,
Speaker 3: think this through. I spent two days with this man
Speaker 3: this spring. He's awesome. It is a great hang. Dabos
Speaker 3: S twenty is one thousand percent resolute that they've made
Speaker 3: the right moves they need to make. That They're not done,
Speaker 3: They're just getting started. He's gonna be there for a
Speaker 3: long time. They're gonna pull the nose up. They will
Speaker 3: win another national title at Clemson. He is one thousand
Speaker 3: percent resolute. He will look he will look Daggers through
Speaker 3: your eyes when he says that you watch Clemson, do
Speaker 3: you feel that's the trajectory of that program.
Speaker 4: I do not.
Speaker 6: I personally don't either. I'd love for him to be right,
Speaker 6: because I just I love Davos twenty, but I don't
Speaker 6: feel that either. I felt like, if you were going
Speaker 6: to do it, last year's team was the team to
Speaker 6: do it, and then this year there's a lot of unknown. Okay,
Speaker 6: but let's just take that worldview Dabbo has versus the
Speaker 6: opinion you and I happened to hold it. I think
Speaker 6: majority would agree with us. He's proven people wrong before,
Speaker 6: and he will bottle that up this year. He'll bottle
Speaker 6: up the whole Well, they're doubting us again. You know
Speaker 6: what we've done historically when people doubt us. I don't
Speaker 6: know that history is always the absolute best indicator of
Speaker 6: what the future holds in the sport. But that's where
Speaker 6: the disconnect is. Like, that's where it's such a unique
Speaker 6: case because in a normal world, when there's expectation and
Speaker 6: you fall flat, you're on the hot seat next year
Speaker 6: and if you don't deliver the next year, you're fired. Right,
Speaker 6: But this is Dabo Swinny. It's the face of Clemson
Speaker 6: football now and for the foreseeable future unless someone comes
Speaker 6: in there and does something truly decade long historic. Daboswinny
Speaker 6: is Clemson football, and it wasn't that when I was
Speaker 6: a child. So he's come along since I have existed
Speaker 6: and totally redefined the face of a major program. He
Speaker 6: won multiple time national titles. He did it against the
Speaker 6: Apex predator in the sport while that Apex Predator was
Speaker 6: at its best in Alabama. The dude's a legend. He's
Speaker 6: an icon. He's like rush More caliber in my lifetime
Speaker 6: of head coaches. So are you really going to tell me?
Speaker 6: They're going to tell that guy and thanks, but no, thanks,
Speaker 6: You're done here? Is that how the exit would work?
Speaker 3: No, it's sure. In a situation where it mutually parted,
Speaker 3: ways would be the terminology they would use on the
Speaker 3: breaking graphic.
Speaker 6: Okay, And sometimes that happens when you got infinite amounts
Speaker 6: of respect for someone, both in sports and in the
Speaker 6: business world, and it just comes time you mutually decide
Speaker 6: to part ways, and it's negotiated and there's a buyout,
Speaker 6: and you've got like a cushy administrative job afterwards, whatever
Speaker 6: you want. I don't get the sense that's how Dabo
Speaker 6: would leave Clemson because that is not where his mind
Speaker 6: is at right. Daboswenny does not believe he's on the
Speaker 6: last few holes of his career. Dabosweny thinks they're about
Speaker 6: to turn to the back nine right now. Like that's
Speaker 6: just how he views himself. And people can think, oh,
Speaker 6: that's so myopic, Like that is completely delusional. This man
Speaker 6: has made an entire career of proving people wrong. So
Speaker 6: you got to understand they've told that guy he's delusionable
Speaker 6: before and they've won titles. So you thinking he's delusional
Speaker 6: is just indicative to him that I must be on
Speaker 6: the right track then right, Like this does not phase
Speaker 6: him before you know, it's not only his radar. In
Speaker 6: your conversation with him, Thank you with myopic near sighted?
Speaker 4: Are short sighted?
Speaker 3: Needed that even beautiful vocabulary? When your time with Dabbo,
Speaker 3: did he give you his opinion on ANIL that he
Speaker 3: I know he's expressed it publicly, but it seems like
Speaker 3: a lot of these coaches that were so successful pre
Speaker 3: nil getting an IL world and they are of the
Speaker 3: thought process that we don't need We just need to
Speaker 3: keep being who we are. We don't need to conform
Speaker 3: to what college football is. College football can stay with us.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So his opinion is a lot of people's opinions. He
Speaker 6: is the face of a lot of opinions that many share,
Speaker 6: which is, you know the whole Hey, I'm not anti
Speaker 6: players getting paid. I wish we had guardrails. I wish
Speaker 6: we had more guidelines. I wish we had proper structure
Speaker 6: to this world. Also, I wish what players make was
Speaker 6: public so we could get a better sense of what
Speaker 6: the quote unquote market is. And then of course there's
Speaker 6: going to be some dude on the side of the
Speaker 6: road yelling, yeah, you should collectively bargain it, and then
Speaker 6: someone else is gonnay, we can't collective bargain with college athletes.
Speaker 6: That's different. That makes them employees. And then that group says,
Speaker 6: what's so bad about that? And then that group says,
Speaker 6: I'll tell you what's so bad about that? And you
Speaker 6: just want the season to start right point Yeah, you know,
Speaker 6: when it's July and we need to talk more than ever. Correct.
Speaker 6: But he has the opinion. He's an old school kind
Speaker 6: of guy, so he leans more traditionalists in his views.
Speaker 6: But at the same time, they just took what like
Speaker 6: ten portal guys I think in this past cycle, so
Speaker 6: they're gonna have guys specifically Tom Allen is his coordinator,
Speaker 6: second year defensive coordinator, and he just flat out looked
Speaker 6: and said, you know, the thing about our secondary is
Speaker 6: they can't run fast enough, so we need to get
Speaker 6: speed in our secondary. So they went to the portal
Speaker 6: and they tried to overhaul their defensive secondary and they
Speaker 6: will see how they did. But this is the first
Speaker 6: go round of Dabo's sort of I won't say resisting
Speaker 6: but trying, but like he's kind of dipping his toe
Speaker 6: into the concept of using the portal more. It'll never
Speaker 6: be the lean to, but it'll be a resource they
Speaker 6: could use. I've just always looked my big gripe with
Speaker 6: the way they've run things over there is they've got
Speaker 6: the Clemson way. They've got the characteristics and the values
Speaker 6: they want a Clemson player to have. People can think
Speaker 6: that's hoky. I love that, that's college football. To me,
Speaker 6: I've just never believed that those attributes are only able
Speaker 6: to be found in high school recruiting. I believe you
Speaker 6: could run a comb through the portal any given year,
Speaker 6: and most of it may get filtered out. Okay, your
Speaker 6: boxes you need to be checked. That may filter out
Speaker 6: ninety percent of the portal. But you're not looking to
Speaker 6: sign thirty or forty kid, You're looking to sign five
Speaker 6: of them. Let's say I believe any given year there
Speaker 6: are five kids at positions of need for Clemson University
Speaker 6: in the portal, that it would not hurt you at
Speaker 6: all and it would not sacrifice anything at all to
Speaker 6: go get they're trying it this year. Was it a
Speaker 6: year too late? That's kind of the dot dot dot
Speaker 6: on Clemson. Yeah, we'll find out week one. We will
Speaker 6: start to find out week one.
Speaker 3: Yes, we start, we'll start, perc definitively know by week one.
Speaker 4: That's it.
Speaker 3: What's gonna take place.
Speaker 6: After they go down there and lose by seven?
Speaker 3: No? What is the LSU?
Speaker 4: Clemson?
Speaker 3: Things way different than Mishigan, Oklahoma, way different, way different.
Speaker 3: You're looking at two products Michigan, you're looking at kind
Speaker 3: of an individual. Does that make sense?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 6: Go on, though, I just so.
Speaker 3: If I'm looking at LSU you have a forty million
Speaker 3: dollars roster. You're not saying if this one or two
Speaker 3: guys are successful, then that'll kind of push the train
Speaker 3: in the direction needs to go. Same thing with Clemson.
Speaker 3: It's like, okay, they brought their ten guys into the roster,
Speaker 3: they've revamped their secondary. Now we can see how they
Speaker 3: start to Michigan. Other those things are things that you
Speaker 3: can go based on the result that takes place in
Speaker 3: a week one and go. That'll take time. That's where
Speaker 3: I kind of lean back a little bit more of
Speaker 3: when you look at Michigan, it's like you look at
Speaker 3: the roster and you know where you're successful at and
Speaker 3: where your question marks are. Given all the areas where
Speaker 3: you feel very positive about they massively outweigh the concerns.
Speaker 3: But that one concern is your quarterback. And that's where
Speaker 3: you'll know a little bit more about the identity of
Speaker 3: well not the identity, but the success of your team
Speaker 3: as opposed to these two teams. That's fair, that's fair. Okay,
Speaker 3: it's a fair time. We'll take that. We have been
Speaker 3: on the show for two like what it's been over
Speaker 3: two hours? Right, Yep, we're kind of going we're taking
Speaker 3: Josh Paate's time.
Speaker 6: I actually don't have to be anywhere until tomorrow afternoon. Okay, perfectly,
Speaker 6: I'm good twenty four hour episode.
Speaker 3: But let's quickly go.
Speaker 6: Should we raise money for charity? Should we do it Shelby?
Speaker 6: Should we get a bank of phones in here?
Speaker 3: I mean, you saw some torn nato? Is this this year?
Speaker 3: Actually just one tornado? You said you saw one to
Speaker 3: that area? You saw it and could probably use some
Speaker 3: charity work. Unbelievable, how crazy? Very crazy? Do you want
Speaker 3: to tell those stories or do we kind of just
Speaker 3: leave those stories to ourselves in our own personal lives.
Speaker 6: I'm glad to tell the story. Okay, God was Effingham, Illinois. Yeah,
Speaker 6: it was about a month and a half ago the tornado.
Speaker 6: Sniffer was riding shotgun. I was driving, We had driven,
Speaker 6: all drove. I only drive. I don't trust anyone to
Speaker 6: drive control freak. Yeah, well I love it. Yeah, so
Speaker 6: there's video. I've got full video of this.
Speaker 4: On our YouTube channel if anyone's interested. But we uh,
Speaker 4: who's that calling me?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 4: The president, just the bank. Okay.
Speaker 6: I'm not in it for the money though, that's right.
Speaker 6: A fan of money, I'd like to have more of it.
Speaker 6: I'm for the money, right, So we are heading due
Speaker 6: west there's a tornado in a field right in front
Speaker 6: of us. We are headed due west. This tornado is
Speaker 6: moving east southeast, so if you think you're running alongside it,
Speaker 6: it's gonna cross the road at some point. We have
Speaker 6: to determine very quickly whether we can beat this thing,
Speaker 6: whether we can get past it before it crosses the road.
Speaker 6: Split second decision. We think we can make it. We
Speaker 6: drive through the outer circulation. So technically you have to
Speaker 6: drive through the tornado, but we know it's outer circulation.
Speaker 6: It's not going to pick us up fingers crossed. We
Speaker 6: get through, we come up on an intersection. I take
Speaker 6: a left. I why turn it and turn it back
Speaker 6: around in time for that tornado to go across the
Speaker 6: road in front of us. We're less than fifty yards
Speaker 6: away from it, and it wiped building clean. It partially
Speaker 6: destroyed another house. And the smell, so you roll down
Speaker 6: the windows. The most vivid sensory overload is the smell
Speaker 6: of top soil and vegetation, because it's ripping trees right
Speaker 6: in front of you, and it clogs your nostrils almost
Speaker 6: as strongly as like if you open a magic marker
Speaker 6: and put it under your nose. Or you walked up
Speaker 6: to a gas pump and gas spilled all over the place.
Speaker 6: The bickness of the gas fumes and you're in your nostrils.
Speaker 6: That's how thick the smell of top soil and vegetation
Speaker 6: was as soon as we rolled the window down, and
Speaker 6: then we come in behind it and there's destruction everywhere.
Speaker 6: Now we took some heat for not stopping and helping people.
Speaker 6: What the YouTube commenters did not know is we had
Speaker 6: already coordinated with three other chase teams who are on
Speaker 6: the other side of the tornado. So as soon as
Speaker 6: that tornado comes through, they're already there. They're on the
Speaker 6: other side of that building. They're already rendering first aid.
Speaker 6: So our modus operandi when we're in the field is
Speaker 6: we already know where each other is, and we know
Speaker 6: if this building just got leveled, then we got to
Speaker 6: take it. If no one's there, but if someone else
Speaker 6: is there, this sting is still on the ground, so
Speaker 6: we leave first response to them and we continue to
Speaker 6: follow behind that tornado. That's what we did. Unbelievable experience.
Speaker 6: Pres camera guy was in the back seat first tornado ever,
Speaker 6: shit himself. He was totally calm, No, suspiciously calm, like
Speaker 6: to the point where I.
Speaker 4: Ask, is substance involved? Here?
Speaker 6: Are you a real human?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 6: Because I was surprised by that how calm he was.
Speaker 6: He was very calm.
Speaker 3: That is a put some question marks and some guys
Speaker 3: like that. We talked about it. I think it was
Speaker 3: on a show a couple of weeks ago about things
Speaker 3: we said we'd do but we never did. And one
Speaker 3: of the things that popped up was go storm chasing
Speaker 3: with Josh paid in March.
Speaker 6: But here's the thing in April and May is open too.
Speaker 6: I did not go on to chase all year. That
Speaker 6: I think would have been conducive for you to come
Speaker 6: on that cause these were multi day chases. Many of
Speaker 6: them we struck out on and this one we we
Speaker 6: finally like hit the jackpot on, but it was at
Speaker 6: the very very end, and so you would have had
Speaker 6: to go through a pretty excruciating several thousand miles traveled
Speaker 6: of striking out to end up cashing in on that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's one of those things if you're trying
Speaker 3: to show somebody the game is not the this is
Speaker 3: not the year you would have wanted to do it.
Speaker 3: Because I probably would have quit. I've been like, yeah,
Speaker 3: gone back to Nashow. Anybody there's another one, be like
Speaker 3: you go.
Speaker 6: Ahead, you you. We did not have the opportunity to
Speaker 6: do Oklahoma Kansas, Nebraska on a prime outbreak day this year.
Speaker 6: That doesn't mean anything about twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 4: That means this.
Speaker 3: Relationship is just one near longer. Yeah, I kind of
Speaker 3: like it says we need to hit these three things
Speaker 3: back to back before wrapping. Okay, Row, Spicy tear talk,
Speaker 3: first date activities. I know it's been a while since
Speaker 3: you've been on a first date. Yeah, it's always been
Speaker 3: a while since I've been on a first date. Deeke
Speaker 3: started the pre production meeting by saying, intercourse is the
Speaker 3: first thing you can do as far as like tier
Speaker 3: talk goes Row Spicy tear Talk. I'll just put that
Speaker 3: at god teer. We'll just put that at god teer
Speaker 3: real quick. That we just kind of shelf that. Does
Speaker 3: anybody disagree?
Speaker 4: No? Okay?
Speaker 3: Also the silence is deafening, so well you don't we'll
Speaker 3: just shelf it. We'll put in the corner there you go.
Speaker 3: That's a bonus. That's a bonus. It's a thing that
Speaker 3: could happen. Best first date activities, Best first date activities.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go I'm just gonna throw one out there.
Speaker 3: This is going to be more of a high school one.
Speaker 3: This is if you're in high school, you're looking to
Speaker 3: find love, but you're also looking to find somebody that
Speaker 3: you can marry and have children's with children with batting cages.
Speaker 3: Oh buddy, And I know that sounds crazy, but sometimes
Speaker 3: you just want to know, Like, hey, if we're gonna
Speaker 3: go the distance together and I'm gonna reproduce with you,
Speaker 3: I want to see what that hand eye is all about.
Speaker 6: That's gorgeous.
Speaker 4: You like that? Get him in there.
Speaker 3: We'll start at the thirty five mile an hour one.
Speaker 3: I want to see that swing more than anything. I
Speaker 3: want to see the warm up swing because if that
Speaker 3: nubs coming down, I think we got something you.
Speaker 6: Known't else you want to see is the mentality when
Speaker 6: they're in the box, right. Hell, that's gonna be half
Speaker 6: your child one day. Yeah, exactly, like wall, Yeah, are
Speaker 6: you gonna face it?
Speaker 4: Or what? Boys?
Speaker 3: We got anything in the back? Some one said paintballing
Speaker 3: when we were all that's insane. I like that and
Speaker 3: I loved that same team or different teams. Oh, different team. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you gotta lighter up. It's gonna happen eventually.
Speaker 4: Yeah, just heard a bunch of Weltz on our side
Speaker 4: and had a great time with you today.
Speaker 3: That was amazing.
Speaker 4: You want to know what me and.
Speaker 6: Savannah French at the time I did on our first date.
Speaker 6: She came to Nashville. She was up here visiting her friend.
Speaker 6: I caught wind of it, so I asked if she
Speaker 6: just wanted to go hang out, go get dinner or whatever.
Speaker 6: We do it. Then we end up just driving around.
Speaker 6: You can't ever go wrong with the drive.
Speaker 4: And she ends up.
Speaker 6: Confiding in me that she's about to go back because
Speaker 6: she was working at Alabama at the time. She's about
Speaker 6: to go back home and tell Nick Saban that she's leaving.
Speaker 6: It is not related to me, like her dad was
Speaker 6: not in a good way, so she wanted to go
Speaker 6: back home to caretake. So you're dropping some heavy stuff
Speaker 6: first off, Like she dropped intimate details about her family.
Speaker 6: I'm a college football junkie. She works at Alabama for
Speaker 6: Nick Saban and confides in me, Hey, no one knows
Speaker 6: this but my family, but I got to go tell
Speaker 6: coach saban, I'm quitting, and that's not going to be
Speaker 6: a fun trip back to Tuscaloosa. And so that was
Speaker 6: what we did. Great food, great conversation, and I felt
Speaker 6: like at that point it's all downhill from here.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, but you need to learn a lot kind
Speaker 3: of make a decision right then. And they're like, Oh,
Speaker 3: this person's being this open with me. I kind of
Speaker 3: love that it was.
Speaker 6: It was very very unique, like we have. We had
Speaker 6: a such a unique introduction. First time I met her
Speaker 6: family was at her father's funeral. I'm dead serious. First
Speaker 6: time I met her mother in person was at her
Speaker 6: father's funeral. First time I met her family in general. Honestly,
Speaker 6: given the circumstances, I would say it went as well
Speaker 6: as it could. It was heavy, though, So once you
Speaker 6: got My point is, once you go through that in
Speaker 6: your first month to month and a half of dating,
Speaker 6: you're thinking, like most of the time you get this
Speaker 6: speech that the first month is all sunshine, rainbows, and
Speaker 6: you're talking to a grizzled marriage veteran of twenty years
Speaker 6: and they're telling you tough times are to come. Just
Speaker 6: just be ready to weather the storm. We drove straight
Speaker 6: into the storm. Right, we went straight into the storm. Yeah,
Speaker 6: month once.
Speaker 4: So is your answer car drive.
Speaker 6: I don't think you can go wrong with the car
Speaker 6: drive if you're good in that setting.
Speaker 3: Can I be honest with you? The more I'm thinking about,
Speaker 3: like the funeral situation of meeting her family, it's kind
Speaker 3: of like, given the circumstances, a really good way to.
Speaker 4: Meet the family I'm introverted to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so like you, because when you meet somebody, there's
Speaker 3: a there's a feeling of having to be a little
Speaker 3: bit performative, like I want to show off my personality
Speaker 3: a little bit, or like show like this is why
Speaker 3: your daughter was interested in me. If you're at a funeral,
Speaker 3: the best move is to be quiet and as helpful
Speaker 3: as possible, like grat like you're not invested in what's
Speaker 3: taking place other than you're courting this individual who just
Speaker 3: lost somebody that they love very much.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 3: It's like can I grab water for everybody? Is everybody
Speaker 3: like comfortable? If I'm sitting somewhere the mom walks in,
Speaker 3: I stand up, Hey, take a seat, absolutely, and you
Speaker 3: can kind of just fall back where they walk away
Speaker 3: and you're not the main topic of conversation because that's
Speaker 3: what's already taken the funeral. But there's a point where
Speaker 3: they go, Hey, by the way, Josh seems like a
Speaker 3: really nice guy, and all you did was just be helpful.
Speaker 6: That was the dynamic kind of a That was the
Speaker 6: dynamic kind.
Speaker 4: Of a hack.
Speaker 3: An unfortunate hack, fortunate, very an unfortunate hack took place.
Speaker 6: So car ride, Car Ride's good. If you're a good
Speaker 6: conversationalist and you're a good driver, got to be a
Speaker 6: good driver. Ye know where you're going? Yep, don't GPS. No,
Speaker 6: don't do that, especially in your hometown. Boggles my mind.
Speaker 6: How many people don't know their way around their hometown.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what, dude, though, But like Tennessee.
Speaker 6: Somebody like, if you've lived in a city for more
Speaker 6: than two years, okay, you're still GPS.
Speaker 4: In your way.
Speaker 3: I'll be real with you, though, I lived here for
Speaker 3: twelve years, and sometimes I gotta pop on a little something.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but not on your normal commute, no no, no, no,
Speaker 6: no no no, I mean I do it for traffic
Speaker 6: sometimes that's different.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like like what's the quickest way to get a call?
Speaker 6: That's different.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay, there.
Speaker 6: Are a lot of people I just take for granted,
Speaker 6: Like I I grew up man. First off, I was
Speaker 6: like a geography nerd, So I know so maps, I
Speaker 6: know cities, I know all that. I just take for
Speaker 6: granted that people know if you're in Nashville, which direction
Speaker 6: is Wyoming? Or if you're in Nashville and you want
Speaker 6: to go to Tallahassee, Florida, Like, are you gonna hook
Speaker 6: up with twenty four to chattanoogaan that takes seventy five
Speaker 6: all the way down to Tallahassee. I take for granted
Speaker 6: that people kind of loosely know that, but they don't.
Speaker 6: But the extreme example of that is there are people
Speaker 6: who pull out of their driveway every day of their
Speaker 6: life and GPS the grocery store.
Speaker 4: That they go to.
Speaker 6: That's heartbreak here, and they just they divorced themselves from
Speaker 6: ever memorizing how to drive. So anyway, if it's a
Speaker 6: first date and you're doing that, no, I don't.
Speaker 4: Think that's Yeah.
Speaker 3: You know what's embarrassing flying with somebody to Las Vegas,
Speaker 3: Nevada and being from Arizona and telling them, oh, this
Speaker 3: is a kind of a similar landscape is what Arizona is.
Speaker 3: Then asking where Arizona is because they thought it was.
Speaker 4: More in the north except me. That's you.
Speaker 7: Wow.
Speaker 3: The first time Jared and I went to Vegas and
Speaker 3: we're doing a vlog, you said we could drive there
Speaker 3: from here?
Speaker 6: Is like drive.
Speaker 4: It gets full.
Speaker 3: I was on my the same spill as I was
Speaker 3: on the way to festival. Arizona's the best state.
Speaker 6: Will just bro No one likes her.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was just crazy and nasty. But it's probably
Speaker 3: way I have stripped now, dude, that' karma. Wow, that's
Speaker 3: probably what I'm just saying. It could be a week
Speaker 3: could be a reason stripped six years old albums thirty six?
Speaker 3: See thirty six or thirty seven?
Speaker 6: Is strap something you grow out of like chicken pox?
Speaker 6: Is it not something you're supposed to get when you don't.
Speaker 3: Think it's something you really get as it like an
Speaker 3: adult adult? Oh No, dude, I got when I was
Speaker 3: twenty one, got what tonels out. Haven't sniffed it since?
Speaker 4: Why you can't get you can't get.
Speaker 3: I can't get stripped throat now.
Speaker 4: That's why you got it? Crazy?
Speaker 6: You got skin my knee in years? No, I got
Speaker 6: this prosthetic.
Speaker 3: What other spicy tear talk?
Speaker 6: First?
Speaker 4: Date activities.
Speaker 3: We need one more sure?
Speaker 5: Oh you should pay?
Speaker 3: You said paintball, got stt Outing is crazy, dude, got.
Speaker 5: It would be crazy, but it kind of it puts
Speaker 5: you in the tunnel of chaos where you're really getting
Speaker 5: the other person.
Speaker 3: Can I give I'll give it another one?
Speaker 4: Yes, State Fair.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like that's that's like you see in
Speaker 3: every single.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that is exactly what though.
Speaker 6: I know, I know.
Speaker 3: But if you're able to knock down all those cans
Speaker 3: and get her the big Teddy Bear, I mean, cancel Christmas.
Speaker 3: You're doing You're doing what Dee talked about pre production.
Speaker 5: You know what's better than The Fall to fall in Love?
Speaker 3: Very nice?
Speaker 5: Just saying very cool, Hey, very cool. You know what's
Speaker 5: also really really cool? What's that sign behind you?
Speaker 6: Say?
Speaker 3: Right there Taylor the boys?
Speaker 5: And what's that sign to the right of that one?
Speaker 3: Say like stage right?
Speaker 4: Or am I right? Oh?
Speaker 6: Great? Great?
Speaker 4: Great question.
Speaker 6: That's a corporate question.
Speaker 5: Great question.
Speaker 6: That's someone who's done this thing before.
Speaker 5: That would be your right when your face bud like
Speaker 5: bud like question. Have you ever been asked the bud
Speaker 5: like question?
Speaker 3: I've personally never been asked the bud like You've been
Speaker 3: asked the bud like question, haven't you probably several times?
Speaker 3: What would you do anything for? People who do anything
Speaker 3: for a.
Speaker 5: Nice back in time, he wanted to watch The Dinosaur
Speaker 5: was fantastic.
Speaker 6: A You know another one that I would love to
Speaker 6: go back and see is the entire beginning to end
Speaker 6: of the David Versus Goliath story playout.
Speaker 4: Dude.
Speaker 3: Imagine I'll say that that battle took place on a Saturday.
Speaker 3: Imagine if there was a pre show on a Friday
Speaker 3: where people can get on their mules or whatever and
Speaker 3: head on over to watch people break down David Versus
Speaker 3: Goliath and kind of be a boring show where it
Speaker 3: was like, Yeah, Goliath is gonna run all over this cat.
Speaker 3: He's got no choice. He's got a what, He's got
Speaker 3: a slingshot. They start talking about accuracy numbers of slingshot
Speaker 3: and David's frail body, only to have one of the
Speaker 3: greatest upsets of all time take place.
Speaker 6: It's literally old test.
Speaker 3: It's old test.
Speaker 6: But the thing about it is, if you read the story,
Speaker 6: first off, David is like fivet nothing, one hundred pounds, nothing,
Speaker 6: and it just doesn't even phase him. He's like, I'll
Speaker 6: kill him, And the general says, no, you're a boy.
Speaker 6: That dude's like eighteen feet tall. You can't kill him.
Speaker 6: And he says, I've killed lions and bears before, and
Speaker 6: it just skims over that no one really talks about
Speaker 6: because he's a shepherd, so he's looking after sheep, and
Speaker 6: bears and lions have come after the sheep, and David
Speaker 6: just says, but I've killed lions and bears before. Have
Speaker 6: you ever seen a bear or a lion?
Speaker 3: Unless that's about the zoo.
Speaker 6: Then think about it in the wild and what does
Speaker 6: it take to kill those? So if I'm armed with that,
Speaker 6: and I can verify it if I'm a general, trust,
Speaker 6: but verify if I've taken one of those down. I'm
Speaker 6: not saying I'm favored against Goliath. I'm just saying the
Speaker 6: money line number just shrunk considerably.
Speaker 3: What do you think the FanDuel odds would have been
Speaker 3: with that type of information David versus Goliath on a
Speaker 3: Saturday at noon.
Speaker 6: I still think Goliaths a minus nine hundred minus one
Speaker 6: thousand money line favors. Yeah, But I just think if
Speaker 6: you're armed with the information. See that's where information becomes
Speaker 6: an information. If you know, David has killed a lion
Speaker 6: and a bear, plus the confidence, like the mentality he
Speaker 6: walks in there with. He's cool, calm and collected. He
Speaker 6: goes and gets a few stones and no problem, and
Speaker 6: then he kills him and cuts his head off in
Speaker 6: front of his entire army, holds that thing up with golias.
Speaker 6: He's favored the next week.
Speaker 3: Oh oh, he's here.
Speaker 4: He's goaded for that.
Speaker 3: Can you think about a five foot nothing, one hundred
Speaker 3: pound nothing guy severing the head of an eighteen foot
Speaker 3: giant and holding it over his head. That's probably the
Speaker 3: most unbelievable part of that entire story. Doesn't even make sense.
Speaker 3: How long does it take do you think to cut off?
Speaker 3: I mean, realistically, I think Goliath was like nine feet tall.
Speaker 3: That's a thick neck. That's a thick neck.
Speaker 6: How long does it take to cut that head off?
Speaker 3: Long enough for the crowd to go from really excited
Speaker 3: to it's really all uncomfortable quiet? Yeah, and you just
Speaker 3: everyone kind of his quiet down and just hear cars
Speaker 3: Fox piano injury music. Literally long enough for you and
Speaker 3: me ago, we'll be back right after these messages and
Speaker 3: have a full commercial break.
Speaker 5: The Patriot scene with the hatchet.
Speaker 3: Yes, yet how sharp is that knife?
Speaker 4: His sword?
Speaker 5: He did it with Goliath swords, so think about how
Speaker 5: big that sword was.
Speaker 6: Again, well, David turned down armor because he couldn't support
Speaker 6: the armory. So he said, I don't even need all
Speaker 6: this lot of holes, a lot of holes in this story. Yeah,
Speaker 6: you gotta go back and see it. I want to
Speaker 6: see it for myself. I don't doubt that it happened.
Speaker 6: I want to see it happen. I know we were
Speaker 6: like supposed to wrap, but we were talking me Jared
Speaker 6: and Will come to that. We're talking about the greatest
Speaker 6: superpowers to have. And when you brought up going back
Speaker 6: in time, I think I have the greatest superpower of
Speaker 6: all time. That if you were saying, if you have
Speaker 6: a superpower, what would it be, and it would be
Speaker 6: to control time? Control time, go back, go forward, something happens.
Speaker 6: Let's say allegedly there's a show that takes place in
Speaker 6: the Fall on Fridays. All right, we're on location. You
Speaker 6: say something so outlandish it just came out of your mouth. Mean,
Speaker 6: the players are dark but yeah, and then you have
Speaker 6: to say dark horse. But you need to get the
Speaker 6: horse out because we would write to commercial break and
Speaker 6: it's like, oh my god, he's done. You can just
Speaker 6: rewind kind of like click. Is there a better superpower
Speaker 6: than that? I don't think so, but we've already worked
Speaker 6: all that out. There's no remote. You do it to yourself.
Speaker 6: You're living in the time. Let's say I'm tired right now.
Speaker 6: I can pause this whole thing, go take a nap.
Speaker 3: Come back. You asked me a question, Oh, you know
Speaker 3: who the cal quarterback is, don't you? And I'm like,
Speaker 3: and I go look at it, and I come back
Speaker 3: and playing, I'm like, yeah, why boom when every trivia,
Speaker 3: every boker right hand dumb? I mean, is that not
Speaker 3: the greatest go ahead?
Speaker 8: They ask you who you think is gonna win on Saturday?
Speaker 8: You pause fast forward, quick see, and you're like, I
Speaker 8: think Text's gonna win this game. Arch Man's gonna throw
Speaker 8: for three hundred and fift yards and you.
Speaker 3: Just have crystal ball type of callouts. That's third and
Speaker 3: six four seconds left in the game. Arch Manning runs
Speaker 3: it in on the left hash. I mean, buddy, purpose
Speaker 3: in life though, with this superpower, that's.
Speaker 6: True, you cannot abuse it, and you got to be
Speaker 6: disciplined with it. I think you can become numb to it.
Speaker 4: Then there's no fun.
Speaker 5: I don't know if Taylor's winning all his hands in
Speaker 5: baker On, I don't think he could have.
Speaker 3: I'm not miserable, dude. I'm enjoying it. I'm enjoying every
Speaker 3: bit of it.
Speaker 4: You would know I am so easy to entertain. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but you would know every single thing like that is
Speaker 4: going to happen to, like to where there's no variability
Speaker 4: of you, like like you're gambling, like you know there's
Speaker 4: no shot of you losing.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no no, Because I would just take
Speaker 3: L days. I would do like on every couple of months.
Speaker 3: I do an L day.
Speaker 4: You'd be a billionaire and I'd be a billionaire. I've
Speaker 4: been messing around.
Speaker 6: Hold on, you have the ability to bend time to
Speaker 6: your favor, and you think you need to gamble in
Speaker 6: a casino to become a billionaire.
Speaker 4: No, that's just for fun.
Speaker 6: That's for fun.
Speaker 3: Because no listen, now, okay, first off, I'm able to
Speaker 3: bend time, but no one knows it can bend time. Eventually,
Speaker 3: there's going to be a book written about all my successes.
Speaker 3: How do I want to start. How did Tailor make it?
Speaker 3: I'm bending time. I'm not playing football anymore. There was
Speaker 3: eighteen years old. He had a he had a stick
Speaker 3: and one of those bandanas with a with a sandwich
Speaker 3: in it. And I've just got to Vegas. Somehow five
Speaker 3: dollars in my pocket turned into ten million? How do
Speaker 3: you do that?
Speaker 4: That's incredible.
Speaker 3: I'm changing my story.
Speaker 6: You don't even you don't even accept that your story
Speaker 6: up to this point is your real story. You're going
Speaker 6: to rewrite and everything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you know what I'll do again once
Speaker 3: I get bored that they're a different one.
Speaker 5: That's kind of sicky, you living.
Speaker 3: I've had I've had a phenomenal life, phenomen I've had
Speaker 3: a phenomenal wife better than most.
Speaker 4: Yeah, better.
Speaker 3: But I'd go rip around a little bit and come
Speaker 3: this one andever lore use it like a like a
Speaker 3: like a filing cabinet just opened up. Be like you
Speaker 3: know what, I'm gonna go back to twenty twenty sixth
Speaker 3: boom right here right now, living a great life.
Speaker 4: Wow, And it goes unsaid.
Speaker 5: You would still go to that same restaurant and run
Speaker 5: into tailing on that same day. You would have the
Speaker 5: daymarked on your county.
Speaker 3: Yes, it was my house. But everything, oh yeah, except
Speaker 3: for I would just go and find tailoring when she
Speaker 3: turned eighteen, because I feel like if I'm thirty, Yeah,
Speaker 3: isn't there a crazy movie about that where a guy.
Speaker 3: My wife watched this when she was pregnant, where a
Speaker 3: dude time traveler's wife and he goes and he meets
Speaker 3: his wife. When have you seen this movie? Guy goes
Speaker 3: and meets his wife when she's like five, And basically
Speaker 3: I didn't watch the whole thing, but I caught the
Speaker 3: gist of it. Grooms this woman into falling in love
Speaker 3: with him, and then he bounces back to the present time,
Speaker 3: so he goes past and present past.
Speaker 4: She's in every.
Speaker 6: Older this post wedding crasher, Yes, if he post wedding.
Speaker 6: I remember the title of this, but I never saw it.
Speaker 3: You should watch this movie. It's actually really good. But
Speaker 3: the whole bouncing back and forward thing is because he
Speaker 3: also when he time travels, he he has no clothes on,
Speaker 3: so he pops up. Yeah, but I'm saying he pops
Speaker 3: up on this. Rachel McAdams as a younger girl, So
Speaker 3: I would find Taylor when she was eighteen she's eighteen.
Speaker 3: She's a uh probably Alberta, Canada. I go there, what's up?
Speaker 3: What's your name? Oh Taylor?
Speaker 4: And I would just well, actually, at that point, she
Speaker 4: would just scream for her parents.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well no, I'm not naked. Josh, it's a different movie.
Speaker 6: No, no, no. If you're going to talk to a
Speaker 6: kid at five years old, though, how old is she
Speaker 6: when you're going to do?
Speaker 3: You gotta watch a movie. I walked in halfway through
Speaker 3: the movie.
Speaker 4: You're you're talking to Taylor when she's eighteen? Ship?
Speaker 3: I guess time traveling. I've been probably a couple of
Speaker 3: thousand years old. I've lived multiple lives, let's just say,
Speaker 3: a couple of probably couple of doubt, like in real life.
Speaker 6: That's that's what we're looking at here in real life.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I go back to when I was eighteen as well.
Speaker 3: Stop all the tomfoolery, stop all tom foolery, and just
Speaker 3: go find her right away. Come with me, Come with me,
Speaker 3: and you will see. And i'd start a chocolate factory
Speaker 3: as well. And I find little people that are orange
Speaker 3: and they've worked for me for free. Ah, dude, something
Speaker 3: like lumpus something you know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Loomphus also about Time, which is another club story
Speaker 5: that circles around time travel that also features Rachel McAdams.
Speaker 4: About Time, I know, great movie about Times.
Speaker 3: I don't think I've seen this movie.
Speaker 5: You would love It makes you a little sad at
Speaker 5: points it is.
Speaker 3: I can't do sad. I can't do that.
Speaker 4: Taylor.
Speaker 3: Will Taylor's got this thing right now where she sends
Speaker 3: me like Instagram like DM's me Instagram things where it's
Speaker 3: like the relationship between a father and a daughter. And
Speaker 3: at this age, this and at that age, I'll literally
Speaker 3: start crying immediately. So I just text her, I just
Speaker 3: DM her back. Nope, I'll be laying right next to her,
Speaker 3: but nope, I won't do it, can do I look
Speaker 3: at this photo three times an episode, and I'm like,
Speaker 3: I'm about to cry just looking at Willow. She's become
Speaker 3: emotional when you have kids. You know, I'm not proud
Speaker 3: of it. You're not proud of it?
Speaker 4: Why not? Because I don't want to be.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but I think that's more fret browie. You need
Speaker 6: to embrace. Oh, you need to embrace being an example.
Speaker 3: I am very emotional, even for a man at any standard. Absolutely,
Speaker 3: there's just pieces of me that like, I just don't
Speaker 3: feel like being emotional yet I see one little thing
Speaker 3: and it makes me emotion. I'm like, I don't feel
Speaker 3: like you having that kind of day. So instead of
Speaker 3: rewinding time, I just don't look at it.
Speaker 4: You just skip ahead. I love to. Yeah, you just
Speaker 4: skip past love to that's fair.
Speaker 3: I love to Big twelve Texas Tech, Texas Tech b yu.
Speaker 6: Yeah, A man, I'm not punting on BYU.
Speaker 3: No one should.
Speaker 6: Yeah, well a lot of people are.
Speaker 4: Why.
Speaker 6: I don't know, they just have got it in their heads.
Speaker 6: Is Texas Tech in the field and that may be
Speaker 6: the order of the odds, But I think Brigham Young's
Speaker 6: got something to say. They don't play them in the
Speaker 6: regular season this year. They do play Notre Dame in
Speaker 6: the regular season. Notre Dame playing one game for the season.
Speaker 6: And meanwhile, one of those games that apparently is a
Speaker 6: layup is in Provo, Utah.
Speaker 4: It's not a layup.
Speaker 6: To me, it's not.
Speaker 3: I'll just say, I know we're not gonna just break
Speaker 3: down the Big twelve now, we're not gonna do the shirm.
Speaker 3: But that second game on the schedule right there, who
Speaker 3: schedules is by very sneaky.
Speaker 4: Yeah, sneaky.
Speaker 3: I think two so on, Arizona's a little sneaky this year.
Speaker 6: Arizona as a state a little sneaky.
Speaker 4: I agree.
Speaker 6: It's basically bag.
Speaker 5: And it snows.
Speaker 3: It's basically Vegas and it's got.
Speaker 6: A huge meteorite landed in the middle of nowhere out there,
Speaker 6: right or was that New Mexico?
Speaker 3: Probably it's probably New Mexico.
Speaker 6: You remember we saw that what state?
Speaker 3: Oh that was Yeah, that was finn in Arizona. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's just I mean we were flying from Tennessee, so
Speaker 3: it could have been any of those states. You know,
Speaker 3: nobody likes areas as all. I remember flights fast forward.
Speaker 3: I'm flying to LA and twelve hours, six hours, whatever
Speaker 3: it is.
Speaker 6: Then commercial doesn't hurt you if you don't have to
Speaker 6: go through the commercial flight process. Yeah, you fast forward
Speaker 6: through it does the cumulative tolls still get taken on
Speaker 6: your psyche when you arrive in the future. Not my world,
Speaker 6: not my world, having this is you know what I
Speaker 6: went through last week?
Speaker 4: I and I'm I.
Speaker 3: First off, it says a lot about our friendship that
Speaker 3: you share.
Speaker 6: That's what emotional.
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, and I pray that we live in a
Speaker 3: world where Josh Payton never goes through TSA again.
Speaker 4: One day, one day, one day, one day, soon, very
Speaker 4: soon before we get out.
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Speaker 3: come on, yes, all right, boys and girls, listen. I
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Speaker 3: personal favorite football cards ever went around their beautiful cards,
Speaker 3: immaculate all over the place. Courtyard is doing me a
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Speaker 3: the last word? Before were on the show?
Speaker 5: Would you like to ask Taylor the bud light question?
Speaker 6: Is it any question I want?
Speaker 5: It could be or it could be a lot of
Speaker 5: people do anything for a bud light? What would Taylor
Speaker 5: Luwan do anything for?
Speaker 4: What would you do anything for?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 3: I can't say family.
Speaker 6: No, No, Family's very easy.
Speaker 4: Lay up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what would I do anything for? Dude? I would
Speaker 3: do anything to wake up on a Friday morning in
Speaker 3: the fall, go to the airport, get on a plane
Speaker 3: with two great buddies, fly to a destination or a
Speaker 3: football game is about to take place that might define
Speaker 3: the entire season, held a generation, and talk about that
Speaker 3: game with my two friends for an hour on a
Speaker 3: major media platform, for your country, for my country, for
Speaker 3: my people. And then I love to travel the Las Vegas,
Speaker 3: Nevada with the boys during the National Championship and do
Speaker 3: the same damn thing. Wow, man, that's what I personally
Speaker 3: would do anything for anything.
Speaker 4: But that's just me, dude.
Speaker 3: I'm just a guy. Man to dream though there to dream,
Speaker 3: to dream. I'm a dreamer. I'm an optimist.
Speaker 4: What can you say? That's life. We feel good, boys,
Speaker 4: feel good. Hell of a sode.
Speaker 6: Yeah, lunchtime. Appreciate you coming pleasure, Get well soon.
Speaker 4: Will run a pass.
Speaker 3: Josh part Commissioner of College Football. Though one and only
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