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Speaker 1: What's happened? Everybody?

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Speaker 2: Welcome into a Wednesday edition of Texans All Access from

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Speaker 2: the Hundai Texans Radio Studio. John Harris, your host, football

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Speaker 2: and out sideline reporter, joined by the Voice of the Texans,

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Speaker 2: Mark vandermir Mark.

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Speaker 1: Good evening, How are you doing.

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Speaker 3: Good evening, Johnny.

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Speaker 4: It's always fun to be at NRG Stadium any time

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Speaker 4: of year, especially with the Rodeo starting to move into

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Speaker 4: the building about to get their show on the road.

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Speaker 3: What is the Cookoff in?

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Speaker 5: What?

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Speaker 4: Two weeks from tomorrow? So that's gonna be pretty cool

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Speaker 4: to have the Cookoff going on. I've been invited this

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Speaker 4: year to a couple of places at the Cookoff, and

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Speaker 4: you know, it's nothing personal against the people inviting me.

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Speaker 4: I'm just not sure if I'm up for that, but

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Speaker 4: I think I might do it this year. It's been

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Speaker 4: a while since I've been to the Cookoff, and it's

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Speaker 4: such a great Houston event.

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Speaker 3: So maybe maybe I'm due.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I'm due to go back a second tomorrow, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: which should be the twenty seventh, which means we're flying

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Speaker 2: back from Indy.

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Speaker 4: We're flying back the night of the Cookoff start. Yes,

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Speaker 4: because it's the okay Friday Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, so you're gonna be We're gonna be

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Speaker 2: back for it. Well, you know I don't wanna be

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Speaker 2: doing that weekend. I'll be locked in on a combine.

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Speaker 2: There's no question about that. Be locked incked on in

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Speaker 2: the lab. A little bit later in the show, Drew

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Speaker 2: Doherty's gonna join me on the show. We've got plenty

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Speaker 2: to discuss. We are gonna have some BAFO interviews tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: but I don't want to give anything away because I

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Speaker 2: don't I don't want to tell you one. But if

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Speaker 2: we get it, these are gonna be rock stars, big

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Speaker 2: rock star. It's gonna be big, big, big one big

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Speaker 2: YEP at least one. Now, Mark Vandermiir does this every year.

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Speaker 2: He does versions every year, which is cool because everybody

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Speaker 2: does mock draft versions. But Mark doesn't care about thirty

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Speaker 2: one other teams. Nope, cares about one team. He does

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Speaker 2: a mock draft for that team and the six picks

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Speaker 2: the Houston Texans have made. Mark vandermir has done a

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Speaker 2: vandermock version one dot oh. It is up at Houston

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Speaker 2: Texans dot com, which you can read for yourself after

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Speaker 2: you hear our little discussion here because I have not

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Speaker 2: seen this. I purposely avoid the vandermock so I can

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Speaker 2: be completely surprised and in tune to what Mark has

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Speaker 2: to say about the draft picks.

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Speaker 1: He says, I ripped them apart.

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Speaker 2: I don't often do that unless you draft Shador Sanders,

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Speaker 2: and then I will rip that apart. But you're not

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Speaker 2: drafting Schador Sanders at number twenty five. Good luck to whoever

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Speaker 2: drafts him. That said vandermock one dot oh.

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Speaker 1: I love this.

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Speaker 2: I love this, and this obviously changes. I mean last year,

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Speaker 2: I think you maybe did Vandermock one dot oh, and

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Speaker 2: then there are a bunch of free agent signings and

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Speaker 2: then you change everything.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Of course then Nick traded out of the first round,

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Speaker 2: so that's screwed it up too, So that to help matters.

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Speaker 2: So thanks Nick, now Nick CASSII, that is not Nick Kayley.

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Speaker 1: Now Vandermock one.

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Speaker 2: Dot zero up at Houston Texas dot com pick number

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Speaker 2: twenty five. Now the Texans, for those that don't know

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Speaker 2: or haven't been falling along and they're just kind of

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Speaker 2: getting up to speed.

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Speaker 1: With the Texans' draft picks.

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Speaker 2: They have six of them as it stands, right now,

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Speaker 2: they are drafting in every round but the sixth round.

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Speaker 2: They're drafting at twenty five in the first fifty eight,

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Speaker 2: just in the second eighty ninth overall, which is in

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Speaker 2: have Buffalo's pick, which is twenty eighth in the fifth round,

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Speaker 2: one sixty seven, and then they have a seventh rounder

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Speaker 2: which is.

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Speaker 1: Two forty three.

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Speaker 2: Now, Mark, I ask you this every year before I

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Speaker 2: get to the picks. Do the Texans make more or

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Speaker 2: less than six picks in this draft?

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Speaker 1: More?

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Speaker 3: Well, you know it's a great question.

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Speaker 4: You know what, I'm gonna hold the line at six,

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Speaker 4: but they're not gonna be where they are right now.

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Speaker 4: There's no way. It's a virtual lock. I would say

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Speaker 4: it's a lock, never mind virtual. Like, how much would

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Speaker 4: you bet that Nick's gonna make at least one move?

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Speaker 4: I would bet the house that he's gonna make at

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Speaker 4: least one move in the draft house. There's only been

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Speaker 4: one Texans draft in history where there was no move

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Speaker 4: So you're gonna look at a draft here where Nick

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Speaker 4: he's definitely gonna move around. He's got the itchy trigger finger.

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Speaker 4: It's not even that it's itchy. He has ideas. He

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Speaker 4: figures out a way to make the board his right

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Speaker 4: as much as humanly possible. Anyway, Yeah, there's no way

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Speaker 4: it stands pat as far as where they're at, but

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Speaker 4: I bet it ends up being six, Johnny.

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Speaker 2: I think one of the things that we have to consider,

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Speaker 2: Nick was trying to make moves like he was trying

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Speaker 2: to get into a higher in the second round or

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Speaker 2: maybe back in the first last year from what we

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Speaker 2: had heard, but teams weren't as willing to make the

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Speaker 2: Texas a trade partner. And some of that is Nick's reputation,

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Speaker 2: like you're gonna get fleeced. You just know it, Like,

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Speaker 2: don't worry, you're gonna get fleeced. So there's teams that

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Speaker 2: don't want to do business, and I can understand that

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Speaker 2: you don't want to be embarrassed by Dick Canserri and

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Speaker 2: the Texans.

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Speaker 1: So it sits at six. So let's do it.

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Speaker 2: First round, pick number twenty five overall. Okay, Houston Texans

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Speaker 2: give me the position.

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Speaker 4: All right, So what I do, by the way, and

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Speaker 4: I recommend people read it because I'm not writing a

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Speaker 4: lot of details on these guys.

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Speaker 3: Necessarily, I give a quick take. But it's the other

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Speaker 3: stuff I write like.

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Speaker 4: I begin the piece saying Nick and his staff have

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Speaker 4: asked me to do this, and then I say, okay,

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Speaker 4: I'm lying, and then I say that Nick probably spin

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Speaker 4: up his alfalfa sprouts smoothie when he read that first sentence,

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Speaker 4: but he probably doesn't drink those anyway. So anyway, I

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Speaker 4: go on and on about smoothies and things like that.

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Speaker 4: All right, So here's the first pick. Twenty five overall

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Speaker 4: they go. Because this is the pre free agency draft.

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Speaker 4: As you pointed out, we talked about it last night

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Speaker 4: these guys. They're free agents to be So I'm going

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Speaker 4: to go defensive tackle and pick from Michigan Kenneth Grant

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Speaker 3: Enabling Will and Daniel to get after it.

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Speaker 4: Kenneth Grant is my first pick for the Houston Texans,

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Speaker 4: and I probably have company. I really didn't check out

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Speaker 4: mock drafts. What I did check out was to see

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Speaker 4: getting ridiculous, like, hey, Travis Hunter in round five, great solid.

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Speaker 4: You can't do that kind of thing in a mock.

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Speaker 4: You have to be, you know, in the realm of possibility. Here,

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Speaker 4: Kenneth Grant twenty fifth. That's in the realm of possibility,

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Speaker 4: is it not, Johnny, Oh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's absolutely right.

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Speaker 2: I think the more that I've thought about this, the

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Speaker 2: more I feel like he's not going to get there. Oh,

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Speaker 2: because he's three hundred and thirty ish, I think. I

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Speaker 2: think Michigan's roster had him at two forty, but three forty.

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Speaker 2: But sometimes those things don't get updated like they're supposed to.

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Speaker 2: So I think from that perspective, he might not get there.

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Speaker 2: He right now sits at fifteen in the Harris one hundred.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that he might move down a little bit,

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I think he's gonna go to Combine. He's gonna show

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Speaker 2: off those dancing bear skills. I think he's very agile.

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Speaker 2: At three hundred and thirty pounds, he can move, He

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Speaker 2: can run. There's a great, great highlight from twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 2: They went to Penn State and one of the Penn

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Speaker 2: tron Allen and Nicholas Singleton. One of those running backs,

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Speaker 2: if I remember correctly burst down the sideline and Grant

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Speaker 2: caught him from behind and it's like whoa, Like it

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Speaker 2: was just it was really impressive. Now it's one of

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Speaker 2: still be three hundred and thirty pounds and to run

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Speaker 2: and chase somebody down the way that Charles Grant can

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Speaker 2: Kennith Grant. Sorry, there's a Charles Grant in the shraft

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Speaker 2: as well. From William and Mary who. I could also

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Speaker 2: see the Texans taking in any one of these other picks.

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Speaker 2: Offensive tackle, long arm dude, that's sort of different story.

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Speaker 2: Kenneth Grant would be a I mean, if he's there

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Speaker 2: at twenty five, I will I'll go crazy because I

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Speaker 2: think that's gonna be a perfect pick.

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Speaker 1: I said it the other day.

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Speaker 2: We were talking about the defensive line, and I said,

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Speaker 2: I feel like there's still a dude needed one more

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Speaker 2: Kenneth Grant would fit and check all those boxes. So

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Speaker 2: I like how you started this. A nice job, Kenneth

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Speaker 2: Grant and number twenty five overall all right, second round?

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Speaker 1: If the eight overall, twenty sixth in the round.

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Speaker 4: Give me the position, it is gonna be a receiver, Johnny.

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Speaker 4: And I was gonna go receiver at twenty five because

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Speaker 4: remember where we're at right now again pre free agency.

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Speaker 4: We don't know what's gonna happen with Diggs yet. You

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Speaker 4: don't know the recovery of Dell yet. So I thought

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Speaker 4: maybe at twenty five I could take Matthew Golden. Would

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Speaker 4: he be there at twenty five in the first round

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Speaker 4: from Texas?

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Speaker 3: Eh? Maybe not.

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Speaker 2: He's in that range. He's definitely in that range. I

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Speaker 2: think the one thing that's gonna be tough for the

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Speaker 2: receivers is I don't know that teams have first round.

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Speaker 1: Needs for a wide receiver.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I think there are a lot of teams that

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Speaker 2: are like, man, we would like to have this guy.

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Speaker 1: So you know, we'll see how it goes.

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Speaker 2: But I think there's gonna be Travis Hunter, t mac per, McMillan,

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Speaker 2: and then there's that next group, but Luther Burden, Golden Abuca,

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Speaker 2: They're gonna kind of be in that range. But I

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Speaker 2: think five would be great if he got them, but

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Speaker 2: I don't know if he's gonna get there.

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Speaker 3: All right, So now I'm in round two, fairly late.

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Speaker 4: In round two, I want a receiver and I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: take Xavier Restrito from the University of Miami because he's

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Speaker 4: a hurricane dammit.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 4: Also, but think about this, He's one of these guys.

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Speaker 4: I've watched him because you know, I watched the Canes.

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Speaker 4: He's one of these guys who's always open, you.

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Speaker 3: Know he is.

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Speaker 4: And some guys say they're always open. This guy's always open.

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Speaker 4: He's got that. And I'm gonna mention two players and

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Speaker 4: they're very different from each other, but they have a

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Speaker 3: Again.

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Speaker 4: I don't know about Diggs and Dell right now, so

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Speaker 2: So in my Harris hits that you can get at Houston,

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Speaker 2: of that same walk, that same kind of you know,

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Speaker 1: He's not you know, braggadocio. He's not gonna tell you

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Speaker 2: Like you said, I think one of the best plays

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Speaker 2: Slipped down and so he literally is fall he's fallen

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Speaker 2: I thought, man, so that's the other thing when we

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Speaker 1: It's all great, but you better catching what's thrown to you.

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Speaker 2: And you could tell when guys have natural hands, like okay,

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Speaker 2: and there's so much you can do with him, and

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Speaker 1: I had a feeling.

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Speaker 2: That's where you might go. I like it Xavier Orstreppo

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Speaker 2: consecutive picks. All right, third round. This is where you

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Speaker 2: make your money, right here, Hick number eighty nine. What

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Speaker 2: you're doing, Give me the position, Give the position to

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Speaker 4: It gets a little dicey here, safety all right. Now,

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Speaker 4: Remember I've got Petrie and Ward coming back from injuries.

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Speaker 4: Eric Murray's a free agent to be, so they might resigning,

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Speaker 4: they might not.

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Speaker 4: I don't like drafting injured guys or guys coming back

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Speaker 4: on Kevin Winston from Penn State because he can play,

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Speaker 4: and if nothing else, I'll have a little safety recovery

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Speaker 4: I think that he'll be up to par by the

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Speaker 4: who has not examining the ACL plus it was partially torn, Johnny.

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Speaker 4: You know with acls you can be a little bit pregnant,

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Speaker 4: so we'll see. I don't know what they did to him,

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Speaker 4: I don't know how it shakes out, and I could

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Speaker 3: But I feel like he is here in February thoughts.

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Speaker 2: So my summer nifty hairs fifty, I had him at

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Speaker 2: number fifty.

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Speaker 1: Ooh, I I was very impressed.

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Speaker 2: He can run, He's got great size six two but

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Speaker 1: He can hit very He's smart.

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Speaker 2: Dude. You went to Damatha, which, for those that don't know,

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Speaker 2: DeMatha was a longtime basketball school, but it's just a

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Speaker 2: great athletic school in Maryland. So he didn't play this year,

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Speaker 2: and you just, man, do you back off either way?

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Speaker 2: When I've kind of reset my Harris one hundred, he's

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Speaker 2: right now in the eighty five to ninety range because

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Speaker 3: But that's right where I'm drafting, right right exactly.

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Speaker 2: So I think you hit it from a from a

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Speaker 1: We've seen teams do this before.

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Speaker 2: I think the one that it's a more glaring example.

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Speaker 1: But he had no he had issues.

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Speaker 2: That was Jeffrey Simmons Jeffrey Simmons coming on Misissippi State.

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Speaker 2: I had number four to Harrison one hundred one January

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Speaker 2: there at nineteen, the Titans go, you know what, wait

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Speaker 2: for him. The Titans waited eight weeks, eight games, I

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Speaker 2: came back. And it so happened that season, which I

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Speaker 2: so it's like we didn't even like we didn't even

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Speaker 1: So Winston, I think, is going to be ready to

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Speaker 2: But even if you had to get him, like you said,

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Speaker 2: rehab here in Houston and you've drafted him. If you've

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Speaker 2: if it's a need, I think he's the right kind

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Speaker 2: due time, those two playing together would be a really

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Speaker 2: fantastic duo, just how they would compliment one another. I

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Speaker 2: think Demiko would really like Kevin Winston Junior. Again, like

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Speaker 2: you said, it's the injury. What's the prognosis of coming

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Speaker 2: back from that injury.

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Speaker 1: We'll have to find out and we'll get a good

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Speaker 1: look at the combine.

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Speaker 2: I would imagine where he is in his progress and

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Speaker 4: Think about this, and I know you don't want to

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Speaker 4: go to this well too often, but Derek Stingley Junior

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Speaker 4: two college seasons, right, and then you drafted him and

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Speaker 4: now he's the best in the game. So I'm not

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Speaker 4: saying this automatic automatically happens with Winston, but it's worth

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Speaker 4: noting anyway.

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Speaker 3: You're ready for RAPT four here.

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Speaker 2: Okay, wait, we've gotten around four, right, we have three

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Speaker 3: I know, and it's time. It's time.

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Speaker 1: It's time to go time.

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Speaker 3: But I feel like I got a good player.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to take a guard round four from LSU

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Speaker 4: Garrett Dellinger. I'm going to take him, and you know me,

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Speaker 4: I know how to evaluate offensive lineman.

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Speaker 3: No, I don't.

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Speaker 4: But my non negotiable for offensive lineman is can you

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Speaker 4: of you? And can you protect your quarterback from the

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Speaker 3: I feel like he can do this.

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Speaker 4: I feel like he can grow into the process that

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Speaker 3: And he'll be a good player for this team.

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Speaker 2: I think one of the things with Dellinger, I would

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Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember it.

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Speaker 3: Played other positions.

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Speaker 2: I think he played center at the Senior Bowl that

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Speaker 2: I remember. There were three yellow LSU hats that I

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Speaker 2: We've seen a number of guys come through this program

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Speaker 2: the offensive line. Even the Austin Deculus. I know we

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Speaker 2: and I thought that'd some good things as the sixth

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Speaker 2: offensive lineman. So I think Delager is a good pick

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Speaker 2: at one twenty seven. Here's the thing I was thinking

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Speaker 2: didn't take an offensive lineman. People ask me in mobile,

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Speaker 2: They've asked me kind on the street wherever I've been about,

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Speaker 2: then use the draft picks to fill in that wide

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Speaker 1: I just that's kind of my that's kind of my thought.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if that's what it's gonna end up being,

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, Juics just had to struggle with

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Speaker 2: if you will go through those struggles, Kenya Green has

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Speaker 2: the right word, but you want to get a veteran

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but when you waited, is that kind

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Speaker 2: They don't have a lot of free agent money, they

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Speaker 2: make some, obviously, but I think if they're gonna use

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Speaker 4: I also thought this. The old expression is does it

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Speaker 4: writing good point, So I'm thinking I want the sexy

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Speaker 4: if you will, I agree, and find a way to

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Speaker 4: do it that way and maybe trade something from next

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Speaker 4: it's round four. It's not like it's round seven or

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Speaker 4: an undrapped of your ee agent. You find guys and

439
00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,240
Speaker 4: somebody drops and you go ahead and take them, and voila.

440
00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:15,520
Speaker 4: Look what you have, as you say, spending free agent

441
00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,080
Speaker 4: money on the old line. You already have so much

442
00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:21,080
Speaker 4: invested there. But and I know you know that, but

443
00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:23,560
Speaker 4: you gotta do what you gotta do, you know, And

444
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,880
Speaker 4: we don't know how Cayley feels about it, how Cole

445
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,600
Speaker 4: Papa Bitch really feels about it, how Nick really Demiko everybody.

446
00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,000
Speaker 3: We don't know how they really feel until we see

447
00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:34,919
Speaker 3: what they do this offseason.

448
00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,119
Speaker 4: No doubt, I don't think my Vandermarck is gonna sway

449
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Speaker 4: their opinion, but you never know.

450
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Speaker 2: It might it might get to the fifth round, all right,

451
00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:44,280
Speaker 2: fifth round from Buffalo.

452
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Speaker 4: Okay, from Buffalo. They got the fifth round pick, and

453
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Speaker 4: I'm going running back here, Johnny. I've got Daria gounbually

454
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Speaker 4: as a free agent. So it's February again. I could

455
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Speaker 4: change this pick in the two point zero, but this

456
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Speaker 4: is one point zero and I am going with the

457
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Speaker 4: all time leading rusher the history of the Kansas Jayhawks,

458
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Speaker 4: Devin Neil, at running back.

459
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Speaker 3: I'm going to go with him right here.

460
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Speaker 4: And I joked that, yeah, if he were the all

461
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 4: time leading anything on the basketball team, that would be something,

462
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,120
Speaker 4: but on the football team it's not as much. However,

463
00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 4: we all know that Kansas has been way better lately

464
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Speaker 4: and Neil is a big part of it.

465
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Speaker 3: Neil is the all time leading rusher.

466
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Speaker 4: He's been rushing for a thousand plus mega yards for Kansas,

467
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Speaker 4: and I think he can be a good third down

468
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Speaker 4: back as far as his potential goes.

469
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Speaker 3: And we'll see where it goes from there.

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Speaker 1: I love it, Oh love it.

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Speaker 2: That's a great pick. That's a fantastic pick to get

472
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Speaker 2: at one sixty seven. Uh. He It's funny because you know,

473
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Speaker 2: I've watched him a million times. When I saw him

474
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Speaker 2: at the Senior Bowl, I was like, wait, is that

475
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Speaker 2: Devin Neil.

476
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Speaker 1: Well, he looks a.

477
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Speaker 2: Lot bigger in person than he does on on TV.

478
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,159
Speaker 2: But caught the ball well out of the backfield. I

479
00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 2: think he can definitely give you that. He's he's powerful

480
00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:03,160
Speaker 2: without being a breaker, if that makes sense. Like he's powerful,

481
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 2: like he's strong enough with explosiveness to get through holes run.

482
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,200
Speaker 2: You know, I don't think he's the fastest guy in

483
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Speaker 2: the world, but you don't need to running back to

484
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,440
Speaker 2: be all that fast. But he is productive between the tackles.

485
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Speaker 2: He is tough as hell. And Kansas went as Devon

486
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Speaker 2: Neil went the last few years he was there. Now

487
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,120
Speaker 2: Jalen Daniels, they needed him as a quarterback and when

488
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Speaker 2: he played they were much much better.

489
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Speaker 1: But Devin Neil was the offense at Kansas. I love

490
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Speaker 1: that pick.

491
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Speaker 2: And by the way, Gail Sayers went to Kansas. So

492
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:33,639
Speaker 2: for Devin Neil to be the all time that you

493
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 2: rusher at Kansas, that tells you something. Okay, last pick

494
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 2: two forty three in the seventh not mister irrelevant. Pretty close,

495
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 2: but not mister irrelevant. Your thoughts on pick two forty three?

496
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Speaker 3: Who you got, well, Johnny?

497
00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 4: In my piece, I originally wrote Josh Cameron, receiver from

498
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Speaker 4: Baylor because he is eligible, but he decided to go

499
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Speaker 4: back to school. He is second team All America. He's

500
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Speaker 4: a wide receiver. He led the country and punt return average.

501
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 2: He's a stud. He's an absolute stud. I mean what

502
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 2: I called the the what you call it game with him?

503
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 2: He's a he's a monster. But he's going He's going

504
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:14,040
Speaker 2: back to Baylor.

505
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:15,679
Speaker 3: Where's he going in this draft? Johnny?

506
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:19,720
Speaker 2: Tell me, oh, he would he'd probably be third fourth

507
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 2: round at a minimum. At a minimum, because he's getting

508
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,119
Speaker 2: better as a wide receiver. He's a hell of returner. Okay,

509
00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 2: but he's getting better as a wide receiver. Well, in

510
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 2: that case, let's pivot here. Silas Bolden, return man, University

511
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:36,160
Speaker 2: of Texas. Okay, Silas Bolden, you could go with as

512
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 2: a wide receiver and as a returner.

513
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Speaker 1: And he was also CJ. Stroud's teammate in high school.

514
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Speaker 4: Oh, that's beautiful. I like Silas Bolden. This will sell newspaper.

515
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 4: We don't have newspapers. This will get me clicks. I

516
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,119
Speaker 4: got one more question for you before we get out

517
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Speaker 4: of here. The guys on serious x MNFL Radio said,

518
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,920
Speaker 4: Hendon Hooker in this draft would go late first round.

519
00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 4: Where does Hendon Hooker stack up? Because the line should

520
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:09,919
Speaker 4: probably consider consider taking a nice pick for Hendon Hooker

521
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,880
Speaker 4: over you know, some teams might not want the quarterbacks

522
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:13,639
Speaker 4: that are available.

523
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Speaker 1: He would be QB two for me.

524
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Speaker 3: In this class.

525
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 1: Cam Ward would be one, Hooker two. That's the way.

526
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Speaker 1: That's the way I would go about it.

527
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Speaker 2: Now, I've I just I just don't think sure Sanders

528
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 2: is for me on a number of different levels, so

529
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 2: he would be QB three for me.

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Speaker 1: I would take Hooker. I was.

531
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Speaker 2: I was a big fan of Hooker. Hooker would be

532
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,199
Speaker 2: number two in this draft. There's no There's no question

533
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Speaker 2: about it. To me, I think he would go. He

534
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,439
Speaker 2: would have an opportunity. You look at you know, you

535
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,159
Speaker 2: look at how this this draft is for teams that

536
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,719
Speaker 2: need quarterbacks. He might go a whole lot earlier than

537
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 2: late first round because I think teams just think a

538
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,120
Speaker 2: team tell me who needs a quarterback. Let's just start

539
00:25:55,160 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 2: the top. Yes or no, Tennessee, Yes, Cleveland yes, Giants, yes, Patriots,

540
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:09,880
Speaker 2: no Jaguars, no Raiders, yes, Jets, yes, Carolina No New Orleans.

541
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Speaker 2: Maybe very possible. Maybe then you got Chicago, San Francisco, Dallas, Miami,

542
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 2: They're all good. Indianapolis, No Atlanta, no Arizona, no Cincinnati, Seattle.

543
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 1: You don't know what the future lies.

544
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:25,640
Speaker 2: But we just went through what five teams Tennessee, Cleveland, Giants, Raiders, Jets.

545
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 2: That's five teams in the top seven and New Orleans

546
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 2: that's six in the.

547
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 1: Top nine that could use quarterback.

548
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, absolutely, Hennon Hooker would be going to one

549
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:36,400
Speaker 2: of those teams for sure.

550
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 1: Yep.

551
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 4: And if I'm Detroit, I really think about it, because look,

552
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,199
Speaker 4: he's entering year three. I still got golf for at

553
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 4: least another two three years. I mean, what am I

554
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:44,920
Speaker 4: going to do here? So I might as well get

555
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 4: a great pick and fortify another position.

556
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Speaker 1: Yep.

557
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:53,719
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Mark your vandermock is well done. Absolutely love it

558
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Speaker 2: coming up through. Doherty joins me for in the lab

559
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Speaker 2: right here on Texans all accept what's up and everybody

560
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Speaker 2: welcome back this one Snesday isation of Texans All access

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Speaker 2: from Thenday Texans a radio studio. I'm your host John Harris,

562
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 2: football analyst, sideline reporter for your Houston Texans. Looking forward

563
00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 2: to tomorrow very much. Nick Kyley gonna meet the media,

564
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 2: Demiko Ryan's gonna talk a little bit as well. So

565
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 2: I can't wait for that to happen on Thursday. I'm

566
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 2: sure what plenty of that right here on Sports rated

567
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Speaker 2: six ten and on Texans All Access. Now it is

568
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 2: time to go in the lab. Drew and I nerded out,

569
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 2: dorked out. We talked about the magic number of four.

570
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,919
Speaker 2: What does that mean? Well, take a listen in the

571
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 2: lab right here with Drew, Dougherty and myself.

572
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Speaker 1: Here we are.

573
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Speaker 5: That's right, it's me Drew Doherty, it's John Harris, and

574
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Speaker 5: it's you checking us out. This is in the Lab,

575
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Speaker 5: presented by Xfinity. The week after the Super Bowl, the

576
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Speaker 5: day before, offensive coordinator Nick Cayley is introduced to the

577
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 5: public through a press conference and Energy Stadium. It's gonna

578
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,360
Speaker 5: be him, It's gonna be Demico Ryans. John, I'm excited

579
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Speaker 5: about that, Excited to hear from the new guy. And

580
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 5: I was very surprised by what I saw in the

581
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,640
Speaker 5: Super Bowl. I was one of those and we said

582
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 5: it on the show last week, I was like, Eagles

583
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 5: are going up against Jordan and Pippen Rodman and Phil Jackson,

584
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 5: and the Eagles thrashed them. However, I do think the

585
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,960
Speaker 5: Chiefs had a bad game at the very worst time

586
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,679
Speaker 5: they did. But one of the things that sort of

587
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 5: confirmed what I've been doing in my nerdery as we

588
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 5: are here in the off season, mock draft simulators. Lots

589
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 5: of times, man, there's a clump of dudes when I

590
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 5: do a mock draft simulator, and we'll do one of

591
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 5: these next week, maybe together. We'll do about three of

592
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 5: them throughout this whole process. But there's a clump of

593
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 5: them at twenty five where if the trades that are

594
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,400
Speaker 5: are proposed to me don't look like, you know, I'm

595
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,239
Speaker 5: getting what I want. It always seems like there's some

596
00:28:54,360 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 5: variation of a choice between Walter Nolan some times a

597
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 5: Mecha Buka, sometimes the defensive tackle from Oregon, and every

598
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 5: so often there's.

599
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: A wild Derek Harmon, Yeah.

600
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 5: Derek Harmon, And then every so often the defensive tackle

601
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 5: from Michigan. Mason Graham drops all the way down. I

602
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 5: don't see that happening, but he drops all the way down.

603
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 5: The Texans It's like you run to the podium and

604
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 5: hand that one in.

605
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: But it comes down to.

606
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 5: Essentially a good defensive tackle because there's a few others

607
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 5: at that spot or a Mecca Abuka. Now, seeing what

608
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 5: we saw on Sunday night in the Super Bowl just

609
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 5: kind of confirms like, yes, do the Texans need to

610
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 5: get better at pass protection? Sure, But if there's not

611
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 5: a Tyler Booker ready there, are you better served by

612
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 5: taking one of those defensive tackles that are available. And

613
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 5: I kind of think yes, And I think you pair

614
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Speaker 5: him up with the not pair them, but you add

615
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 5: them to the mix of the guys you have out

616
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 5: on the edge who are very good, also very promising

617
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 5: down the line. I think he you have you can

618
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 5: get very close to what you saw from the Eagles

619
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Speaker 5: defense if you you hit with some of those guys.

620
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Speaker 2: I think you can thank the Eagles for helping with

621
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Speaker 2: the argument, because I had just I had to talk

622
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 2: with Seth. I was this is just after I'd gotten

623
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Speaker 2: back from the Senior Bowl, and I can't remember who

624
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 2: was somebody had somebody had put out there kennth Grant

625
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 2: to the Texans, the other Michigan defensive tackle.

626
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 5: Somebody that I wind up taking when I'm very back

627
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 5: a little bit.

628
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, very I think twenty five I I kind

629
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Speaker 2: of go the other way, Drew. I think in due time,

630
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Speaker 2: I think you won't be able to get him at

631
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Speaker 2: twenty five.

632
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Speaker 1: But the point being, I know there are a lot

633
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Speaker 1: of people like, you got, you got, you got. You

634
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 1: gotta do off of the line, You gotta do off

635
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Speaker 1: of the line.

636
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 2: Yet now look, there are other There are the ways

637
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 2: that you can go about getting players and bringing them in.

638
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 2: And I've said, and I'm gone on record saying, I

639
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 2: think if the Texans are going to spend money, I

640
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 2: think think it might be at one of those interior

641
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 2: offensive line positions. I think that's where they spend the

642
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 2: money to get somebody that's maybe ready made to PLoP

643
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 2: right in and let's go.

644
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 1: I think with what they have a wide.

645
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 2: Receiver with Nico Collins in particular, you know what they

646
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 2: have at other positions, even even if it's a tackle,

647
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 2: I think they could. Now some of this depends on

648
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,560
Speaker 2: what happens with Foley and what happens with Mario Edwards.

649
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: If you can bring both.

650
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:29,959
Speaker 2: Them back, then I still I still think you have

651
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 2: to add a stud a dude.

652
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: Uh to the defensive line room A young A young dude.

653
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 2: I mean that's a you know, Mario has been a

654
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Speaker 2: league a little while, Fully's been around for a little while.

655
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 2: Even you know, Kurt Heinez is going to your four.

656
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 2: I mean, guys have been around for a little bit.

657
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 2: So I think they need a little infusion of some size,

658
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 2: some magility, some strength as defensive lineman. And then you

659
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,480
Speaker 2: just point to, well, look what the Eagles did. Look

660
00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 2: how they did it. And the one thing I like

661
00:31:58,360 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 2: about what the Eagles did, and I don't think this

662
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:04,959
Speaker 2: brought up a lot. Deagles don't just have defensive tackles.

663
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 2: You look at Jordan Davis and he's like three point fifty.

664
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 2: You look at Jalen Carter, he's like three point fifteen.

665
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 2: Then you look at Milton Williams who comes in the game,

666
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 2: he's two eighty five. Like maybe maybe by the end

667
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 2: of the season he's probably like So it's like they

668
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 2: hit you with different flavors and different types. And I

669
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 2: think that's the key that to keep an offensive line

670
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 2: off balance, it's different kind and I think with Foley

671
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 2: and Mario and Settle, they're not all the same guy

672
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 2: and I thought that was that made for their success

673
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 2: and helped make for their success.

674
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 1: In twenty twenty four. But I think you.

675
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 2: Add a stud that's you know, three a five three

676
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 2: Tan can move even a guy like Kenth Grant.

677
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: You know me, I like, I like my defensive tackles

678
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 1: BF here than most.

679
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 2: So if Kenth Grant comes to the party, he's three

680
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty three thirty five, I think the Michigan

681
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 2: roster has.

682
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 1: Him in through forty. But that dude can move. I mean,

683
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: he can get up and go.

684
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 2: And you think about you still gotta win the division, right, Well,

685
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 2: the team you gotta beat Indianapolis, what do they want

686
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 2: to do? They want to pound out to Taylor run

687
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 2: Anthony Richardson. Well, if your guys inside are great, if

688
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,479
Speaker 2: you're gonna win the AFC, you gotta beat the Chiefs.

689
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 2: Where do you have to be great? Up the middle?

690
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,479
Speaker 2: Because that's where that's where Patrick Mahomes like he likes

691
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 2: to escape through that. So I think defensive tackle makes

692
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 2: a lot of sense. And this is a deep defensive

693
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,560
Speaker 2: tackle draft. In fact, I was just going through my

694
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 2: draft database today kind of revising and getting guys in

695
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 2: and out guys that were you know, moved on to

696
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six, get him out of there, Guys that

697
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 2: maybe declared I wasn't expecting to put him in there,

698
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 2: and true you just like I go down the list,

699
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 2: I'm like, could you see this guy playing for the

700
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 2: Texans in twenty twenty five? Mason Graham, Kenth Grant, Tydee Williams,

701
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 2: Derek Harmon who he mentioned, Joshua Farmer Florida State, Alfred Collins, Texas,

702
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 2: t J. Sanders, South Carolina. You on Walker six six

703
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 2: three forty eight, Burning brought in Texas, Jordan Fields like

704
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 2: those give me any of those guys, any of those guys.

705
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,240
Speaker 1: They fall all throughout the draft.

706
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, when you're doing these drafts, which absolutely, but yeah,

707
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 5: it's uh absolutely, it's fun. That's that's exciting because it's

708
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 5: a position that, like you said, it's not an extreme need,

709
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 5: it's not like a glaring hole. But if you are

710
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 5: able to get somebody like that, you're strengthening what's you know,

711
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,800
Speaker 5: the defensive front is a strength that is really it

712
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 5: pushes you one step closer to getting where you want

713
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 5: to go ultimately. Okay, so we just brought something up

714
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 5: there on the flip side offensive line. You know, pass

715
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 5: protection was not what it needed to be last year,

716
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 5: just wasn't. Everyone knows that. Everyone said that from the

717
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 5: very top of the building. We're saying players said it.

718
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 5: We're not breaking any news here. But with all that

719
00:34:54,680 --> 00:35:01,919
Speaker 5: in mind, with the draft approaching, true or false, if

720
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 5: you did not draft an offensive lineman in April, you'd

721
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 5: still be just fine, or you could be just fine

722
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 5: because of the change offensively with Kayley and the personnel

723
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 5: you already have in place, and some personnel you could

724
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,839
Speaker 5: add through free agency. I guess what I'm saying is, yeah,

725
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:25,919
Speaker 5: you'd like to draft a great offensive lineman or two,

726
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 5: but it's not necessarily a must, is it.

727
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 1: It's not.

728
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 2: I think it's the easiest thing for fans to see,

729
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 2: is you know, personnel changes.

730
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: It's easy.

731
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 2: They're not gonna you know, you know, even us, we're

732
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 2: not gonna be able to all the scheme things that

733
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 2: they do, but we know that they're gonna do different

734
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,919
Speaker 2: things to be able to protect. Even in the game

735
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 2: against Kansas City, even a couple of games prior, you

736
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 2: can see the Texans, I could I could see things

737
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 2: that were different that the Texans were doing in their

738
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,439
Speaker 2: past protection that made it a little bit better. Now, Look,

739
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 2: CJ got mauled in the fourth quarter, but that was

740
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,879
Speaker 2: because we were down in that game and the Chiefs

741
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 2: are now pinning their ears back and they started getting

742
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 2: hot and we'd get desperate and you don't know how

743
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 2: it goes. But for the first three quarters that game,

744
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 2: one of the things that they were doing pretty well

745
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 2: was picking up the stunts.

746
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 1: They're picking the blitz.

747
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 2: It's not every time, but doing a better job of

748
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,760
Speaker 2: it than they did in the game of December prior

749
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 2: to that game, the game he gets the Chargers, I

750
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 2: thought the pass protection from the second quarter on was

751
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,240
Speaker 2: much much better. They were doing things a little differently.

752
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 2: So personnel is the easiest thing to see, Well, that

753
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 2: guy's different, that coach is different. Well, now there's a

754
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 2: new coach, there's an offensive coordinator who's going to be different.

755
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 2: What he brings in Nick Cayley to pass protection and

756
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 2: how they go about it. I don't think any of

757
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 2: us are going to really truly understand. The proof is

758
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 2: going to be in the pudding. But new coaches and

759
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 2: new schemes, new ideas always make good players better. Yeah,

760
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 2: I do think that I said earlier. Free agency I

761
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 2: think is you know, if they're gonna spend some money,

762
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,320
Speaker 2: I think that's where it might be. But I still

763
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 2: think that a young offensive lineman. Look, they've they've drafted,

764
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,160
Speaker 2: let's go through the last two years. Ago, it was

765
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 2: Juice and Jarrett right then last year it was Blake,

766
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 2: and then later it was Darius Henderson. They've drafted some

767
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 2: offensive linemen, and they've drafted him a little bit later

768
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,240
Speaker 2: in the draft. I mean, Blake was the second rounder,

769
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:34,879
Speaker 2: but Blake's gonna turn it to a starter. I think

770
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 2: he's gonna end up being the starter right tackle. I mean,

771
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 2: we'll see how they how they put it all together.

772
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 2: But Blake I thought did a pretty decent job, except

773
00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 2: for one, you know, you know, sack he gave up

774
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 2: to Chris Shones.

775
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 1: Carl loftis one or the other. But either way, I

776
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 1: think Blake's the right fit.

777
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 2: So they've put some they've kind of done what we've

778
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 2: talked about, and that is draft a little bit later.

779
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 2: Some guys that might have some upside, they have some

780
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 2: elite trade, like they have long arm, or they're big,

781
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 2: they can move, they're smart or whatever. I think that

782
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,240
Speaker 2: they still need to draft at least somebody.

783
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 1: Now they don't have.

784
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:13,720
Speaker 2: As much draft capital as we've had in the past,

785
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 2: and so that is something to keep an eye on.

786
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,959
Speaker 2: How do they increase that draft capital moving up, moving down,

787
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,400
Speaker 2: moving down, picking up other picks, all that kind of stuff.

788
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 2: But I think if they stick at six picks, I

789
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 2: think it'll be one offensive lineman. But I do think

790
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 2: with the change of Nick Cayley Cole Popovich moving to

791
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 2: the offensive line coaching position and the change that goes

792
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 2: with having them be the shot callers. Added to I

793
00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:45,720
Speaker 2: think some free agent dollars for somebody coming in and then.

794
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 1: Maybe one maybe a Day three pick, might be a

795
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: Day three pick. I'd be okay with that.

796
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 2: But round three and beyond draft pick, I think you

797
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 2: can start to look at it and go okay, I

798
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 2: can kind of see how this is going to come

799
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 2: together in the offensive line.

800
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,799
Speaker 5: So that's a great answer to what my question was,

801
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 5: which was essentially true or false the Texans must draft

802
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 5: an offensive lineman or true false the Texans will be

803
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 5: okay pre possibly if they don't draft one. So we

804
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 5: talked about it last week. I did the mock draft roundup,

805
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 5: and most experts, the majority of the experts the court,

806
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,879
Speaker 5: or at least a quarter of twenty four experts, had

807
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:24,359
Speaker 5: the Texans taken Alabama's Tyler Booker, the guard, really impressive guy,

808
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 5: and somebody you said, probably is not going to be

809
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 5: at twenty five. So, as a flip to what my

810
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 5: previous question was, if the Texans were to take a

811
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 5: guy like that, and I put that, I tweeted that

812
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 5: out that you know, he's the pick at twenty five

813
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:40,280
Speaker 5: by some of these experts, and I got a handful

814
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 5: of responses and tweets saying.

815
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:47,240
Speaker 1: Don't do that. They've done that, They've taken guys.

816
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 5: Okay, just because you took a guy at a position

817
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 5: it didn't work out a few years back, doesn't mean.

818
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: You don't do it again.

819
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:03,760
Speaker 5: Right, So, if Sam Bowie was your choice in nineteen

820
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 5: eighty four, five it was eighty four eighty five. Anyway,

821
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 5: four eighty four, he didn't work out for you immediately.

822
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 5: He did wind up becoming an All Star couple times,

823
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 5: but he wasn't Jordan Yarkim. Does that mean you don't

824
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 5: draft Shaquille O'Neil a few years later or exactly?

825
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 1: So on and so forth.

826
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 2: So here's one Drew. Here's here's one Drew. So things

827
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 2: didn't work out with Deshaun Watson. His agent is David Mullaghettos.

828
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 2: Does that mean you're not gonna draft C. J.

829
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: Stroud? He just been I mean yeah, So.

830
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 2: Look when it some of those things you know that

831
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 2: I think people get. You know, don't draft in Ohio

832
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 2: state quarterback. You know, you can't draft the Jeff Tedford quarterback.

833
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 2: Oh that guy is just gonna be this, He's just

834
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 2: gonna be this. Yeah, look, take a text every Yeah,

835
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:55,399
Speaker 2: every situation you have to treat individually and independently. And

836
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 2: I think when you look at Booker, it no, no.

837
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 2: First of all, with some of the guys that were

838
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 2: drafted in the offensive line, it wasn't the same group

839
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 2: you have now. It wasn't the same coaching staff you

840
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,240
Speaker 2: have now. It wasn't the same philosophy you have now.

841
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 2: So those things might not be that important. I'll tell

842
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 2: you one thing that's hugely important, and that's being swarmy.

843
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 2: And when I was at the Senior Bowl, I don't

844
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:16,880
Speaker 2: know if I told you this, I don't know if

845
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 2: we talked about this true.

846
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 1: Was it the Senior Bowl?

847
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 2: I talked to a staffer from Alabama, somebody who knows

848
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 2: the Alabama program really well. And I don't know if

849
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 2: we went through this, but he spoke glowingly like he

850
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 2: didn't say the words swarm.

851
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 1: He didn't have to.

852
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 2: It's like all the things that just get added, you know,

853
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 2: to the mix. You go, Okay, well that that fits.

854
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 2: And look, not every player at Alabama is that way.

855
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 2: But if you're gonna get to Alabama for the most part,

856
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 2: you probably have those tendencies. And it was interesting talking

857
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 2: to him about Will Anderson, Henry Totoe and the guys

858
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 2: are at Alabama, and it was like, yep, same same

859
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,919
Speaker 2: sort of thought process, same sort of way he goes

860
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:55,520
Speaker 2: through things.

861
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: And I think Tyler Booker, and that's the thing.

862
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 2: And I say this lot, Oh you draft an offensive guard.

863
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:03,399
Speaker 1: Offensive guard.

864
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 2: That's not the way I look at it. I look

865
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:09,879
Speaker 2: at it as you drafted Tyler Booker. That's different. That's

866
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 2: not we just didn't draft an offensive guard. Because I

867
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 2: think that gets lost on people. A lot of people

868
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:17,319
Speaker 2: last year were like, oh, we gotta draft the tight end.

869
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 2: I gott draft the Titian. We gotta have a tight end.

870
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 2: They were like, all over me about a tight end,

871
00:42:20,320 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 2: and I was just like, I didn't like a lot

872
00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 2: of the tight ends where people wanted to draft a

873
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 2: tight end. I'm like, okay, you want a tight end here,

874
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 2: who you want? Tell me who you want, then I'll

875
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 2: talk to you. Because if we get to the fourth

876
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,439
Speaker 2: round and kate'st Over still there, that's what I want.

877
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 2: And thank god Nick Casario knew that too, and Nicko

878
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 2: Demiko go out and get Kate Stover, who I think

879
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 2: is gonna end up taking year two to a different level.

880
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 2: I'm really excited about Casny. Do I think CAD's kid's

881
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 2: kid can be healthy? Now he kind of knows the game.

882
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 2: I think that's that does.

883
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:52,200
Speaker 1: A swarmy dude.

884
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:57,760
Speaker 2: So to me, Tyler Booker isn't just an offensive guard

885
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:00,640
Speaker 2: being picked at number twenty five like he is an

886
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:06,720
Speaker 2: absolute stud. So did it not work with other guys?

887
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 2: Did it not work with other first round offensive guards?

888
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 1: Maybe not?

889
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 2: But you have to look at each case individually and

890
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 2: why those things and why those situations didn't work out,

891
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 2: and then you can utilize, Okay, this didn't work out

892
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 2: because of A, B and C. Okay, we're gonna try

893
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 2: not to make those mistakes. But we might draft an

894
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 2: offensive guard again and we might find those things we

895
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 2: might miss again. I mean, hell, the Browns have been

896
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 2: drafted quarterbacks for forever and they still don't get it right.

897
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 2: So from that standpoint, I, you know, the Tyler Booker

898
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 2: one is the one that I kind.

899
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 1: Of I don't know the right way of saying this,

900
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:41,720
Speaker 1: but I get.

901
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 2: Kind of kind of how bothered about it because of

902
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 2: what you just you said, Drew and the way you

903
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 2: went about it, because that's the way I hear it

904
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 2: in my head.

905
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:52,280
Speaker 1: Oh, they're drafted to guard. My god, it's look offensive

906
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: guard's not sexy.

907
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 2: But you know what if an offense guard that you

908
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,839
Speaker 2: draft keeps number seven upright all year long, watch how

909
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 2: sexy this offense is gonna.

910
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 1: I don't get you happy. So let's end with this.

911
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 5: Since we do dorky things on this this podcast, I'm

912
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:09,239
Speaker 5: gonna leave with the number four. I texted you and

913
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 5: Mark about this last week. I was doing some research.

914
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 5: Four four sacks was kind of like the magic number

915
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 5: with the Texans last year. When Stroud got sacked four

916
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 5: times or more in a game, the Texans lost one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight,

917
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 5: times wow, eight times including the playoffs, so seven of

918
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 5: the regular season losses.

919
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 1: So more than four four or more times, four or

920
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:41,800
Speaker 1: more times, four more times.

921
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 5: They won two games where he got sacked four times.

922
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 5: They hold the Colts in the first week of the season.

923
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 5: Ye remember that they beat the Dolphins later on the seasons, right.

924
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 5: They lost one game where he did not get sacked

925
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 5: four times. They only lost one time. That was to

926
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,839
Speaker 5: the Chiefs in the regular season. He get sacked twice

927
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 5: in that game. He had hit though eleven times. Yeah,

928
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 5: he hit eleven times in that game. He had hit

929
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 5: eleven times at the Jets, which is the really memorable

930
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 5: one because he got sacked eight times, hit eleven times

931
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 5: against the Jets. But he got hit as many times

932
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 5: against the Jets as he did against the Chiefs in

933
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 5: the regular season game, and he got hit the most.

934
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,240
Speaker 5: The most all season long was in the finale. Eight sacks,

935
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 5: fourteen quarterback hits, but four that was the number. If

936
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 5: you stayed under that number, Texans typically won miraculously. They

937
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 5: did not have a game all season long where they

938
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 5: kept a clean sheet. Now Stroud did not get sacked

939
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 5: in the season finale at the Titans, but he only

940
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:43,760
Speaker 5: played that one series.

941
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 2: Oh Man, tough numbers to hear, no doubt, but good

942
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 2: one from Drew. Okay, we go back newser on the NFL.

943
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 2: What if the Giants made a deal for Matt Stafford.

944
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 2: We'll discuss that next right here in Texas All Access.

945
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 2: All right, we got a quick one to finish here,

946
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 2: Texans All Access on a Wednesday, big date tomorrow. Nick

947
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 2: Cayley gonna speak to Mika. Ryan's gonna speak over at stadium.

948
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 2: Looking forward to that. Now, what I tease going into

949
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 2: this segment, I've just kind of followed the rumor sphere

950
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 2: through different social media and one of the ones I

951
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 2: keep seeing the New York Giants making a move from

952
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 2: Matt Stafford, and.

953
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 1: It kind of stops to me my tracks.

954
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 2: First of all, we played the Rams this year, so

955
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 2: the Rams without Matt Stafford, Like, all right, cool, let's

956
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 2: do it. But I tried to think of Matt Stafford,

957
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 2: the Giants with elik neighbors, and if the Giants state

958
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 2: could stay at three and get Matt Stafford. I don't

959
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 2: know if they could do that, but if they could

960
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 2: man elite neighbors, Travis Hunter and Matt Stafford in New York.

961
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, now that would be a nice, nice.

962
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 2: Starting Defensively, they're tremendous up front, tremendous. That might be

963
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 2: something worth looking at as long as the Giants could

964
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 2: find a younger option in the next.

965
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:57,320
Speaker 1: Couple of years.

966
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:00,399
Speaker 2: But we'll see what they can do down the road.

967
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 1: Really appreciate you guys being with me this evening.

968
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:07,959
Speaker 2: As I mentioned earlier, Nick Cayley press conference is gonna

969
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,399
Speaker 2: be tomorrow. That's gonna be fun to listen to. Mark

970
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 2: and I will be back to break it all down.

971
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 2: I think we got the general on with us tomorrow

972
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 2: night as well because it's Thursday, so make sure you

973
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,320
Speaker 2: tune in for that. But big thanks to Drew Tomork

974
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 2: to all of you for listening to my guys back

975
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 2: at Sorts ratio six ' ten.

976
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 1: Appreciate you guys. We'll see tomorrow and as always, go Texans.