WEBVTT - SPOILER REVIEW! ‘Smile’

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome to a spoiler review on Movie Mix

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<v Speaker 1>Movie Podcast. This is where we dive into a movie

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<v Speaker 1>from beginning to end, talk about the ending, talk about

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<v Speaker 1>every spoiler in the movie, and today we'll be talking

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<v Speaker 1>about Smile. So if you've seen the movie I want

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<v Speaker 1>to hear about the spoilers, keep listening. Or if you

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<v Speaker 1>had no plans to ever see Smile, this is a

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<v Speaker 1>way to listen to the movie for free. And I

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<v Speaker 1>have gotten messages from some listeners who listen to this

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<v Speaker 1>episode and then are later inclined to go and watch

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<v Speaker 1>the movie after hearing everything about it. Myself, personally, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>okay with spoilers. If somebody tells me about the ending,

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<v Speaker 1>what are they really going to ruin? Someone dies? That's

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<v Speaker 1>always the spoiler that everybody you know doesn't want to hear.

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<v Speaker 1>But it doesn't really change anything for me anyway, if

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<v Speaker 1>I know somebody is going to die going into it,

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<v Speaker 1>because if it's a really good movie, it's the journey

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<v Speaker 1>that it will take you on to get to that

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<v Speaker 1>death that will be impactful. And if it's still does

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<v Speaker 1>a good job at that already knowing it's coming, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think takes that much away from it. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about Smile. If you didn't hear the spoiler

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<v Speaker 1>free version, the movie is about a doctor who witnesses

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<v Speaker 1>this crazy traumatic incident with a patient. This patient just

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<v Speaker 1>came in after witnessing a teacher at her college killed

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<v Speaker 1>themselves with a hammer, and then after that event, she

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<v Speaker 1>started seeing some really haunting images, felt like there was

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<v Speaker 1>this really dark presence around her, and she goes to

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<v Speaker 1>Dr Rose Cotter played by Socie Bacon to try to

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<v Speaker 1>help her out, and she's telling her about all these

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<v Speaker 1>things and describing what she feels and what she's been seeing,

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<v Speaker 1>and describes that when her professor killed himself, the very

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<v Speaker 1>last thing he did was have this really big smile

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<v Speaker 1>on his face before he took his own life. And

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<v Speaker 1>then this patient goes on to take her own life

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<v Speaker 1>right in front of the doctor, and same thing happened.

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<v Speaker 1>She has a big old smile right before she does it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like she just got taken over by something. It's

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<v Speaker 1>possessed by something, and then from one end to another

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<v Speaker 1>end of her face she kills herself. Pretty hardcore introduction,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that was the scene that really set

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<v Speaker 1>the stage for the entire movie. I thought it was

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a lot of the same throughout the movie.

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<v Speaker 1>So then what you start to learn in this movie,

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<v Speaker 1>as she starts experiencing these things, starts hearing things, start

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<v Speaker 1>seeing things, that there's actually a long line of this happening,

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<v Speaker 1>and she goes through some investigations, she joins forces with

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<v Speaker 1>the cop and figures out that this has been going

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<v Speaker 1>on for a very long time and in every case,

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<v Speaker 1>the person who killed themselves had a smile on their face,

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<v Speaker 1>and there was only one person ever to escape the curse.

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<v Speaker 1>And we'll get to that in a second. But the

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<v Speaker 1>part that kind of let me down in this movie

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<v Speaker 1>is that it was very reliant on jump scares, and

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like jump scares are a little bit cheap,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's why I kind of considered this movie to

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<v Speaker 1>be a diet horror movie or a horror movie adjacent.

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<v Speaker 1>That is, because a lot of the scary moments just

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<v Speaker 1>come out of nowhere. They're very quick things, very quick jumps, screams, yells,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's kind of what this movie based itself on

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<v Speaker 1>and relied on. And I just found the characters very

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<v Speaker 1>one dimensional, which is usual for a horror movie. And really,

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<v Speaker 1>Socie Bacon carry this entire movie by yourself, So I

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<v Speaker 1>felt like you needed some support in this movie. The

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<v Speaker 1>cop was okay, he was probably the second most likable character,

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<v Speaker 1>but when it came to characters like her fiance, like

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<v Speaker 1>I like the actor who plays her fiance. He also

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<v Speaker 1>plays a train on the boys, but I found it

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<v Speaker 1>so unbelievable with their dynamic of knowing that her mom

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<v Speaker 1>had killed herself and she was starting to experience these

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<v Speaker 1>things and have you know, the weight of her career

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<v Speaker 1>on her, and now is like trying to explained to

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<v Speaker 1>him that she is not crazy and she's actually experiencing

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<v Speaker 1>these things. And he goes and seeks out the advice

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<v Speaker 1>of her old therapist to come in and help and

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<v Speaker 1>bombard her with that, like why would you do that?

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<v Speaker 1>I just think if I was in that scenario, it

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<v Speaker 1>would be more of a believable thing of like I

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<v Speaker 1>would try to help my life with that, Like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe you, We're going to figure this thing out.

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<v Speaker 1>So I found that part kind of annoying. And her

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<v Speaker 1>going to the cop guy and confiding in him instead

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<v Speaker 1>to help her in the investigation. And the other thing

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<v Speaker 1>about this story is It looks very good on paper,

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<v Speaker 1>even going back through my notes of what happened in

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<v Speaker 1>the movie. When you see it all written, it seems

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<v Speaker 1>like a movie that I would really enjoy. But there

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<v Speaker 1>was something that still just lacked in the execution of

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<v Speaker 1>all these scenes and the execution of all this story

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<v Speaker 1>that made it pretty boring. There was a solid forty

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<v Speaker 1>minutes in this movie where I felt nothing really happened.

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<v Speaker 1>There weren't any scares. It was kind of just moving

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<v Speaker 1>along at a snail's pace to eventually lead to what

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<v Speaker 1>would be the ending. I did like the effect of

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<v Speaker 1>her having to question whether or not things were actually

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<v Speaker 1>happening to her or not. I thought that was a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty cool spin on this type of haunting story of

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<v Speaker 1>something very creepy and kind of off the wall happens

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<v Speaker 1>like whenever she's talking to her therapist and then suddenly

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<v Speaker 1>realizes that that whole thing didn't happen, and then she

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<v Speaker 1>snaps kind of back into reality that it's just a

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<v Speaker 1>demon monster messing with her. So I thought that part

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<v Speaker 1>was cool, but all those scenes were kind of few

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<v Speaker 1>and far between. Even going back to the birthday party

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<v Speaker 1>where her cat had been missing from her house, for

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<v Speaker 1>a while, I couldn't find it, and then she went

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<v Speaker 1>to get her nephew a train set. She put that

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<v Speaker 1>thing in a box and wrapped it up and then

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<v Speaker 1>took it to the party. And then whenever the kid

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<v Speaker 1>opens up the present, it's actually her cat that passed away.

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<v Speaker 1>And you think in that moment that that is all

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<v Speaker 1>going to be fictional and she was just dreaming it,

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<v Speaker 1>but that actually happens. That was probably my favorite scene

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<v Speaker 1>out of the entire movie, just because of the shock factor.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that was at the moment where the

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<v Speaker 1>movie started to kind of drag after that, and then

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<v Speaker 1>it builds up to the ending, which I said in

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<v Speaker 1>the spoiler free version, I already saw it coming. And

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<v Speaker 1>I know this movie was based on a book, but

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like they took a lot from The Ring,

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<v Speaker 1>where in the Ring, you watched the tape and then

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<v Speaker 1>seven days later you die. In this case, whenever you

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<v Speaker 1>witnessed this person killed themselves with a smile. Most people

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<v Speaker 1>make it days. I think the most another person that

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<v Speaker 1>made it was a couple of weeks. So she is

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<v Speaker 1>racing against time before it finally gets hurt too, and

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<v Speaker 1>she learned from the guy in prison that the only

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<v Speaker 1>way he was able to beat it was to kill

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<v Speaker 1>someone else, and that's what ended up landing him in prison.

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<v Speaker 1>But at the moment that he killed somebody else, this

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<v Speaker 1>evil presence took it kind of a sacrifice and it

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<v Speaker 1>was able to latch onto that energy and spare his life.

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<v Speaker 1>So then she has the idea to go where there's

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<v Speaker 1>nobody around her. She thinks if she can completely isolate herself,

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<v Speaker 1>that this evil presence will have nothing to feed off

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<v Speaker 1>of and she'll have no one to kill herself in

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<v Speaker 1>front of, therefore ending it. So she goes out to

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<v Speaker 1>her childhood home, which the movie I felt was trying

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<v Speaker 1>to make this connection with the way her mom killed.

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<v Speaker 1>It opened with the first scene of her witnessing her

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<v Speaker 1>mom dying, and you find out later that she killed

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<v Speaker 1>herself from suicide. So I felt like it was trying

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<v Speaker 1>to do this full circle moment and bring it back

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<v Speaker 1>to her childhood home. I just felt that never really

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<v Speaker 1>connected there in the end, such an emotional thing. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought was going to have a way to bring those

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<v Speaker 1>two things together, Like you go all the way back

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<v Speaker 1>through tracing this in history, that maybe the person that

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<v Speaker 1>started with was her mom. It just felt like it

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<v Speaker 1>was building back toward something like that and never really

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<v Speaker 1>got there. Instead, she goes back to her childhood home,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is where she confronts this demon. This is

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<v Speaker 1>where we get our first good glimpse at it, and

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<v Speaker 1>it has some pretty good imagery. I thought the monster

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<v Speaker 1>was not the most unique looking, but it was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of jarring to see such a creature like this and

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<v Speaker 1>then see us start to mess with her but not

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<v Speaker 1>have that full capability to really take her over. And

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<v Speaker 1>then you find out that it was able to trick her.

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<v Speaker 1>She thinks she is able to defeat the demon and

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<v Speaker 1>burn it to the ground, drives back to the other

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<v Speaker 1>guy's apartment, the cop who has been helping her the

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<v Speaker 1>entire time, and you realize that was all a hallucination,

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<v Speaker 1>and she is back at her childhood home. The cop

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<v Speaker 1>has arrived there and is knocking on the door and

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<v Speaker 1>defeating the purpose of her being alone, he walks in

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<v Speaker 1>he sees her standing there, and there it is the

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<v Speaker 1>moment I was suspecting from the very start of it

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<v Speaker 1>that she of course wouldn't be able to beat it.

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<v Speaker 1>She's there with a smile and then lights herself on fire. Therefore,

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<v Speaker 1>passing it along to this guy because the same thing

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<v Speaker 1>happened she had to smile on she killed herself, and

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<v Speaker 1>now that curse is going to be passed on to him. Therefore,

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<v Speaker 1>with the success that this movie has had now at

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<v Speaker 1>the box office, costing only seventeen million dollars to make

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<v Speaker 1>and making over a hundred million dollars across the globe,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's at a hundred and thirty seven as

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<v Speaker 1>I'm recording. This now sets up that sequel, so they

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<v Speaker 1>have an announced date yet, but of course there is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a smile too, and I think I'm

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<v Speaker 1>okay with that. I think this franchise could get better.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a pretty minimal budget movie with seventeen million,

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<v Speaker 1>and I have seen a lot of people since really

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<v Speaker 1>enjoy this movie, and I think it just wasn't for me.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll stand by my two point five rating, and

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<v Speaker 1>I give that a lot still to the marketing behind

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<v Speaker 1>this movie. But I still think on paper it is

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty good story. I just think again the execution

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<v Speaker 1>of it just didn't really hit. So if you have

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<v Speaker 1>this good concept, if you have something that can be

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<v Speaker 1>made into a sequel, I think all they need now

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<v Speaker 1>is to take some more money into the production of

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<v Speaker 1>this movie, add some more scares in there, build out

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<v Speaker 1>a better story, maybe give a little bit more insight

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<v Speaker 1>on what this curse actually is, some history behind it.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't really have time to get into that, even

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<v Speaker 1>though two hour movie. I feel like they should have

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<v Speaker 1>gone to some of that and then just make a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a more hardcore sequel, just have some more

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<v Speaker 1>action in it. That's really all this movie needs to be.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say in the three point five range. They

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<v Speaker 1>could get there. And the only thing I hope they

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<v Speaker 1>don't do a Smile, even though I want to know

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more in the background, is do a

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<v Speaker 1>part two, then do a part three, and then kind

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<v Speaker 1>of do what all the other horror franchises do and

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<v Speaker 1>do a prequel to how it actually started, because I

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<v Speaker 1>think that would be a very boring movie. I think

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<v Speaker 1>they only need that to be maybe a five ten

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<v Speaker 1>minute max sequence in a Smile too, but that does

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<v Speaker 1>not need to be its own movie. I can only

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<v Speaker 1>imagine how much that movie would drag. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>the best scene still out of the entire movie was

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<v Speaker 1>her accidentally gifting the dead cat to her nephew and

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<v Speaker 1>then at the very end when her mom morphed into

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<v Speaker 1>that really giant sized version of her, that was creepy.

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<v Speaker 1>For a little bit. It kind of felt like a

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<v Speaker 1>Resident Evil video game style scenes, So I don't feel

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<v Speaker 1>like it was anything I hadn't seen before, But that

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<v Speaker 1>was the only moment that I felt like, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>we're finally getting going here. And then when she did

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<v Speaker 1>defeat him in that scene, it would just kind of laugh.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a little too easy, so bring us back

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<v Speaker 1>to the real ending. I also think this is a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty good kicking off point for Socie Bacon's career. Who

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<v Speaker 1>is Kevin Bacon's daughter, And I wonder if they cast

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<v Speaker 1>it her specifically, be because she looks so much like

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<v Speaker 1>Hillary Swink, to the point that when I first saw

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<v Speaker 1>this trailer, I was like, Wow, this is an unusual

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<v Speaker 1>role for Hillary Swank, not her at all. They just

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<v Speaker 1>look very very similar. But she did carry this entire movie.

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<v Speaker 1>I think obviously now that she's dead, we won't be

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<v Speaker 1>able to see her kind of take that roll on

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<v Speaker 1>again unless they bring her back from the dead or something.

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<v Speaker 1>But I feel like with the success of this movie,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it would open up for another actor to want

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<v Speaker 1>to take on her style role in the next one,

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<v Speaker 1>even though it'll be the cop who is trying to

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<v Speaker 1>save his life. I think having another cool supporting role

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<v Speaker 1>in that would make for a better sequel, especially now

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<v Speaker 1>that it has some buzz around it. I think with

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<v Speaker 1>the success of this and with the marketing behind it,

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<v Speaker 1>this will be a movie we talked about for at

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<v Speaker 1>least another four or five years, and I'm cool with that.

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<v Speaker 1>I like any horror movie that gets some national attention

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<v Speaker 1>that makes some money at the box office, especially with

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<v Speaker 1>a low budget like this, and I am down to

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<v Speaker 1>give a smile to a shot. So that is the

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<v Speaker 1>spoiler edition of my smiled review. Let me know if

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<v Speaker 1>you had any other thoughts on the movie or if

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<v Speaker 1>now you may go watch it for yourself. And until

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<v Speaker 1>next time, go out and watch good movies and I

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<v Speaker 1>will talk to you later.