WEBVTT - 352 | Playing General Manager: LA Angels

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<v Speaker 1>Ms secker.

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<v Speaker 2>By. We will see you.

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<v Speaker 3>Tis the gunner.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to hang out, Peter. Okay, let's talk about the

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<v Speaker 2>La Angels. No, yes, time, dude.

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<v Speaker 3>We do this every single year, Jack, You and I

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<v Speaker 3>we play general manager for the Los Angeles Angels and

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<v Speaker 3>we go in after we look at their roster, we

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<v Speaker 3>look at what they can do, and we think the

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<v Speaker 3>world of them and what did they do? Every single year?

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<v Speaker 3>This is the episode that I was dreading the most.

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<v Speaker 3>With that said, they looked pretty good.

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<v Speaker 2>They look great. So that's why we're knocking it out

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<v Speaker 2>as the third team as the GM series Just Baseball Show,

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<v Speaker 2>Jack Peter. Today is Thursday, November thirty one, No December.

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<v Speaker 3>One, December one, my birthdays and few days my birthdays

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<v Speaker 3>and two days. Thoughts on that.

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<v Speaker 2>Happy early birthday? Chief, damn.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but we have an episode. We have an episode

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<v Speaker 3>on Friday, so save it. Save it?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Fine, all right, Jack Peter. Two days before Peter's birthday,

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<v Speaker 2>we're talking about the La Angels Today. You're in Santa Barbara.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in Indy New Pad with the brick wall. The

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<v Speaker 2>brick wall is not going to be the background. I've

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<v Speaker 2>got I Okay, adult move here. Indianapolis and New York

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<v Speaker 2>rent are two very different things. While you are amped

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<v Speaker 2>to live in a studio by yourself, I was just

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<v Speaker 2>in a studio by myself. I was like, I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>mind more space because I can't just rip the bodega

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<v Speaker 2>and like go have fun every night. Sometimes I need

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<v Speaker 2>to be a hermit. And I was like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>time for a one bedroom? So I moved into a

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<v Speaker 2>one bedroom. How about that.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm very proud of you. I wish the brick background

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<v Speaker 3>could be your background because, as many people know, the

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<v Speaker 3>brick background for me kind of changed baseball media.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and then you decided to abandon it with two

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<v Speaker 2>portraits from our guy Kyle Taylor, who I think is

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<v Speaker 2>still commissioning the burly one for me. So I'm really

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<v Speaker 2>excited to see that thing. But I will not be

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<v Speaker 2>keeping the brick. You had red brick. I've got yellow brick.

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<v Speaker 2>If it was red brick, I would really think about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yellow brick. I'm kind of opposed, but that's the deal.

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<v Speaker 2>That's enough to core. I promise we're going to have

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<v Speaker 2>some fun prints in the back and all that. But

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<v Speaker 2>let's talk about the La Angels here, because the Angels

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<v Speaker 2>for the unteenth year in a row, were just in

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<v Speaker 2>utter disappointment. There was nothing going on there when we

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<v Speaker 2>thought there was everything going on. Here, you have Mike

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<v Speaker 2>Trout and Sho Hao Tani. Trout again an abbreviated masterpiece.

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<v Speaker 2>He doesn't play a full one sixty two.

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<v Speaker 3>If he did, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Mean, he's probably running away with ALMVP. He's probably smashing

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<v Speaker 2>a record that Aaron Judge doesn't. But here we are

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<v Speaker 2>talking about what could have been season for Mike Trout.

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<v Speaker 2>Sho Hao Tani was arguably as good. He was a

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<v Speaker 2>better pitcher than he was when he won the MVP

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty twenty one. Everything else went to absolute shit.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you're so right about them being probably the

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<v Speaker 3>most disappointing team in baseball, not just because they have

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<v Speaker 3>Mike Trout and sho Heo Toni on the same team,

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<v Speaker 3>a sentence that you and I will utter for the

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<v Speaker 3>next forty five minutes again and again and again, because

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<v Speaker 3>those two still are the best players in baseball. Get

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<v Speaker 3>their judge, Mookie whatever. I'm not here to debate that

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<v Speaker 3>right now. What I am here to do is to

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<v Speaker 3>debate whether the Angels can actually make it over the

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<v Speaker 3>hump because the Astros finished one hundred and six and

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<v Speaker 3>fifty six, the Mariners finished nineteen and seventy two last year,

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<v Speaker 3>and the Angels finished seventy three and eighty nine. But

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<v Speaker 3>in May, this Angels team was competing with the Astros

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<v Speaker 3>and everything looked really good, and then injuries just hit

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<v Speaker 3>this team. You mentioned Mike Trout, I mean there was

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<v Speaker 3>injuries to the starting rotation too, you know. But what

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<v Speaker 3>some exciting things like Redebtmers came up after kind of

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<v Speaker 3>struggling initially but kind of showed that he can be

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<v Speaker 3>a definite mainstay in this rotation. They made some nice

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<v Speaker 3>additions to the bullpen, you know. They got Aaron Loup

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<v Speaker 3>after that amazing season with the New York Mets, but

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<v Speaker 3>he did not replicate his success in Queens when he

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<v Speaker 3>moved over to Anaheim or Los Angeles. He had a

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<v Speaker 3>three eight four ERA compared to like a one something

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<v Speaker 3>ERA over there in New York. They signed Ryan Tepera,

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<v Speaker 3>who was five for them. I thought he was decent.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, he had a three six twenty ARRA. It

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<v Speaker 3>was nothing to parade over. And they traded Rossie Iglesias,

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<v Speaker 3>which was a guy that they signed for a big deal,

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<v Speaker 3>and then they ended up trading and for Jesse Chavez

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<v Speaker 3>and Tucker Davidson. Tucker Davidson in front of the pod

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<v Speaker 3>mean a few starts for the Angels and possibly could

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<v Speaker 3>be someone that they look at in the rotation next year.

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<v Speaker 3>But overall, just to summarize, it was incredibly disappointing because

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<v Speaker 3>it's one thing, Jack, It's one thing for you to

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<v Speaker 3>go in and to expect to win sixty five seventy games.

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<v Speaker 3>It's another thing to come into the season expecting to

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<v Speaker 3>win ninety and winning seventy three. That's almost worse because

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<v Speaker 3>it's the expectations. It's the fall from grace, it's the

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<v Speaker 3>it's just the disappointment. And let's get sucked back in. Ah, dude,

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<v Speaker 3>I hate this. We're gonna get sucked back in because

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<v Speaker 3>their roster looks great. It looks good.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's make it great. And I will say that injuries

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<v Speaker 2>hampered them, right, Anthony Rendon had fewer than two hundred

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<v Speaker 2>played appearances. That's a big omission. But I have been

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<v Speaker 2>a denier of Anthony Rendon for a little bit. The

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<v Speaker 2>guy's gonna make thirty seven million dollars this year. And

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<v Speaker 2>you look at the payrolls in twenty twenty three, and

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<v Speaker 2>the Angels are already near the top. They've got about

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and forty five million dollars committed before arbitration

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<v Speaker 2>and before you factor in the pre arm deals as well.

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<v Speaker 2>So this team is gonna be flirting with the luxury

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<v Speaker 2>tax if they do nothing in free agency. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know how the Angels feel about the luxury tax. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think they paid the luxury tax this year. There

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<v Speaker 2>were six teams that paid the luxury tax. Anaheim was

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<v Speaker 2>not one of them. I don't think they're afraid of it.

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<v Speaker 2>They're an LA team. They've got Mike Trout and Sho

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<v Speaker 2>Hail Tani. If there's one year to go over the

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<v Speaker 2>luxury tax, this is probably the year to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>And you have show Hey for what he's giving you

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<v Speaker 2>on an incredibly raw deal. This guy's making less than

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<v Speaker 2>twenty million dollars, but you've got about seventy million dollars,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe over seventy million dollars committed to Anthony Rendon and

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<v Speaker 2>Mike Trout. You feel good about the Trout. You don't

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<v Speaker 2>feel that good about Rendon right now, But do you

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<v Speaker 2>think we're having a different conversation on July fourth. Do

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<v Speaker 2>you think we're sitting here watching the fireworks, having a

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<v Speaker 2>libation and saying, you know what, Anthony Rendon has been

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<v Speaker 2>kicking ass this year.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's just if he stays healthy. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I hate to put it that plainly, but when he's

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<v Speaker 3>on the field and healthy, he looks awesome. When he's not,

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<v Speaker 3>he's not. It's it's it's wide or black with him,

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<v Speaker 3>and almost seems like there's no gray area.

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<v Speaker 2>So what I will say, And I know that he

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<v Speaker 2>was dealing with some nagging injuries while he was playing

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<v Speaker 2>this year, but he slugged three eighty when he was

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<v Speaker 2>on the field, which.

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<v Speaker 3>Is but nagging injuries, don't I don't. I don't put

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<v Speaker 3>that on him like I don't think, Oh, Anthony Rendon

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<v Speaker 3>now is just dropped off the face of a cliff

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<v Speaker 3>and is going to slug four hundred next year if

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<v Speaker 3>he is fully healthy. I expect top five, top ten

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<v Speaker 3>at least production from the third base position. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>see any reason why you shouldn't. I think he was

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<v Speaker 3>hampered by injuries. I really do. But it's not even

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<v Speaker 3>just ren Dome that we're talking about here who had

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<v Speaker 3>a step back. How about Jared Walsh, a guy who

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<v Speaker 3>we put in our top ten first baseman moving into

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<v Speaker 3>the year. That same Jared Walsh that in twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 3>one had an eight forty nine OPS with twenty nine

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<v Speaker 3>bombs and thirty four doubles. Last year six forty three

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<v Speaker 3>OPS with fifteen bombs in eighteen doubles. Granted, I mean

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<v Speaker 3>he didn't have the same number of vet bats. He

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<v Speaker 3>only played one hundred and eighteen games compared to one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and forty four and twenty twenty one. But he

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<v Speaker 3>was expected to be an important left handed bat, which

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<v Speaker 3>the Angels really need, and he bare gave them anything

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<v Speaker 3>last year. And I dove into him trying to figure

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<v Speaker 3>out what happened. There's not a lot of statistics that

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<v Speaker 3>I can point to to say, Okay, if he fixes that,

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<v Speaker 3>he'll be better. I really think it was just a

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<v Speaker 3>down year. I mean, I remember in twenty twenty one,

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<v Speaker 3>this dude crushed sliders, crushed fastballs. Five run value against

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<v Speaker 3>the fastball, nine run value against the slider. Both of

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<v Speaker 3>those were in the negative. Like, it's just an enormous

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<v Speaker 3>drop off from production, and what can we say, like,

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<v Speaker 3>I think he'll bounce back. You think, because you see

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<v Speaker 3>the talent, why can't he? But I don't know. That's

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<v Speaker 3>why there's so many things up in the air. But

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<v Speaker 3>I look at it. You know, the preseason Angels look

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<v Speaker 3>as good as anybody.

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<v Speaker 2>Again, and here we are with the preseason Angels, so

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<v Speaker 2>you assume health. And my thing about assuming health with

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<v Speaker 2>the Angels, they they got very unhealthy, very quickly, and

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<v Speaker 2>even at the end of year. Right you saw Mickey

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<v Speaker 2>Moniac cry when he got hurt near the end of

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<v Speaker 2>the year. And Mickey Moniac was, you know, the guy

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<v Speaker 2>that came over straight up for Noah Cindergart at the

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<v Speaker 2>deadline when Cindergaard went to Philly and Moniac he was

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<v Speaker 2>showing flashes of not being one to one, but showing

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<v Speaker 2>flashes of being a serviceable major league outfielder, and then

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<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden, injuries just cut his season short

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<v Speaker 2>and he was so frustrated. I think that was the

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<v Speaker 2>frustration with a lot of guys with the Angels. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not forecasting injuries. Let's just forecast bad luck for

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<v Speaker 2>the Angels because they've had bad luck on the position

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<v Speaker 2>player health front in recent years. So where's your contingency plan.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's look at Anthony Rendon. Where's the contingency plan? It's

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<v Speaker 2>actually great. Two minor leaguers. One guy that was previously

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<v Speaker 2>DF eight I think came or were sent away for

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<v Speaker 2>Giovanni Orshella. So Urshella is now the backup third baseman

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<v Speaker 2>slash third baseman. Roster resource at Fangrafts has him as

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<v Speaker 2>the starting shortstop. We got to fix that right now.

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<v Speaker 2>But Urshella as a backup plan to Anthony ren Doon

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<v Speaker 2>feels really good. And as a brackup third baseman shortstop.

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<v Speaker 2>I like having Adele and Moniac as the fourth and

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<v Speaker 2>fifth outfielders. When you've got Taylor Warden left, Mike trouton center,

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<v Speaker 2>and Hunter Renfro acquired via trade in right, obviously Otani's

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<v Speaker 2>your DH, and then you loop around the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>the field. You've got Logan o'happy and Max Stassy as

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<v Speaker 2>your catchers. I feel great about that tandem. And then

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<v Speaker 2>here you are with Renhifo at second and Jared Walsh first,

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<v Speaker 2>with David Fletcher waiting in the wings. We'll start with

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<v Speaker 2>the hitters and then we'll get to the pitching. Here,

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<v Speaker 2>where are the sure fire. They are in the lineup

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<v Speaker 2>all year long if they're healthy.

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<v Speaker 3>They have Mike Trout and Shoho Tani in the same lineup.

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<v Speaker 3>Joe Otdi is going to be the d and that

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<v Speaker 3>he's gonna step on the mound and be a top

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<v Speaker 3>ten five, don't care where you rank him pitcher, one

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<v Speaker 3>of the best pitchers in all of baseball. You'd assume

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<v Speaker 3>that Luis ren Hifo will be the second basement, and

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<v Speaker 3>he deserves to be the second basement. He doesn't walk.

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<v Speaker 3>He hit a two ninety four on base percentage last year,

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<v Speaker 3>but he slugged four twenty nine. He's a solid player.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he's solid. He had seventeen bombs. Maybe solid

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<v Speaker 3>is even a bit much, but he's your second basement

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<v Speaker 3>and he should be. Taylor Ward. There is no reason

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<v Speaker 3>why he shouldn't play left No absolutely no reason at all.

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<v Speaker 3>Had it over an eight hundred ops twenty three bombs.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a twenty nine year old who was a previous

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<v Speaker 3>first rounder like this guy should be the left fielder.

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<v Speaker 3>He earned it. If Anthony Rendon is healthy, We're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>say this again seventy thousand fucking times on this podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>If Anthony Rendon is healthy. He is your third baseman.

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<v Speaker 3>Hunter Renfro the newly acquired They gave up what Jansen

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<v Speaker 3>junk in that trade of his poguero, Adam Seminaris. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't even know how to pronounce that name. I don't

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<v Speaker 3>really know who that is, quite honestly with you. Jared

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<v Speaker 3>Walsh is gonna play first base, and Logan o Hoppy

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<v Speaker 3>is gonna play catcher, like that's your starting eight, and

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<v Speaker 3>then it's all about who's gonna play shortstop? And Geo Orchella.

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<v Speaker 3>I watched him play shortstop on the New York Yankees.

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<v Speaker 3>He can at least feel the position. If the Angels

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<v Speaker 3>want to work on pitching and starting pitching and their bullpen,

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<v Speaker 3>and then their bench looks great. Like that's the problem

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<v Speaker 3>with the Angels. They don't have major holes throughout their lineup,

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<v Speaker 3>except you could say shortstop. But am I excited for

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<v Speaker 3>Hunter Renfro and right, not really? Am I really excited

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<v Speaker 3>for Luis Renhifo at second base? Not particularly? Am I

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<v Speaker 3>crazy hyped? Am I expecting a huge bounce back from

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<v Speaker 3>Jared Walsh? I don't know? And then Logan o'happy. The

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<v Speaker 3>great thing is he is a great prospect and you

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<v Speaker 3>have Max Stassy, So I'm confident in the catching position

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<v Speaker 3>as a whole. But am I confident in a real

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<v Speaker 3>first year catcher at twenty three years old, not part particularly,

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<v Speaker 3>So there is the problem here. It's not like like

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<v Speaker 3>there's no holes, but it's there's not a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>stuff jumping at me. But it's good.

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<v Speaker 2>So via trade hunter Renfro is the right fielder. I

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<v Speaker 2>do believe he's the right fielder and he should be

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<v Speaker 2>the position. I I say there's nothing to be done

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<v Speaker 2>catching wise, because you've got a newly extended mac statsy

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<v Speaker 2>and one of the best catching prospects in baseball and

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<v Speaker 2>maybe the breakout prospect in twenty twenty two not named

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<v Speaker 2>Danny Rodriguez is Logan o hoppy, So I do feel

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<v Speaker 2>good about that tandem. I don't think they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>add to that tandem at all.

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<v Speaker 3>My thing they should They definitely shouldn't. That's yea Dassi

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<v Speaker 3>could be good on his own, if Logana could be

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<v Speaker 3>good on his own and pulls at Jared Kelnick like,

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<v Speaker 3>but I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Using those two is a ninety game seventy game, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like share or one hundred and sixty in favor of Ohapi.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel really good about that. I mean too, they

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<v Speaker 2>need to get better at short I think that's really

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<v Speaker 2>the only spot. Maybe sign a backup first, Baseman. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to start there. I want to throw out some

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<v Speaker 2>really small names that could benefit from being like behind

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<v Speaker 2>Jared Walsh, or maybe if Otani needs a day off

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<v Speaker 2>once in a blue moon, might I recommend a Luke

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<v Speaker 2>Voight recently non tendered, Like that's a power bat off

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<v Speaker 2>the bench.

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<v Speaker 3>I love that idea, not only because I think Luke

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<v Speaker 3>Voight is somehow becoming kind of underrated. I think he

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<v Speaker 3>got shipped off to Washington. I don't think there was

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of reasons too for him to be motivated.

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<v Speaker 3>And then if you put him in a lineup here

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<v Speaker 3>where you can platoon him Jared Walsh against righty's Voight

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<v Speaker 3>against lefties, that feels a lot better. The only issue

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<v Speaker 3>is show he O Tani plays d H so.

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna force.

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<v Speaker 3>You're going to force Voight to play first, and then

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<v Speaker 3>you don't have Walsh in the lineup, which could be

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<v Speaker 3>a good thing. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, other names that could jump out, how about like

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<v Speaker 2>a Yuli Guriel is he gonna is Are they gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be priced out of him as a platoon first baseman.

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<v Speaker 2>He's thirty eight years old.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd rather have Luke Voight. I think Luke Voight makes

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<v Speaker 3>more sense there than Yuli Gurriel does. I think Juli

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<v Speaker 3>Gurriel is going to go somewhere where he can be

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<v Speaker 3>the first baseman. And I don't know if Guryel, at

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<v Speaker 3>this point in his career, at thirty eight years old,

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<v Speaker 3>is still trying to win. I wouldn't put it past him,

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<v Speaker 3>But I also wouldn't put it past him to just

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<v Speaker 3>take a bag with Voight. You know, he wants to compete.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm assuming I think he would take a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>less in order to get put on the Angels in

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<v Speaker 3>a good spot where they're gonna use him correctly, rather

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<v Speaker 3>than a Yuli Guriel where it feels like Gurriya would

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<v Speaker 3>go to whoever gives him the back.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Last one that I want to throw you Trey Mancini.

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<v Speaker 3>Again, Hm, I just I want to see what the

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<v Speaker 3>open market thinks of Mancini, because Mancini was good on

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<v Speaker 3>the Orioles before going over to the Houston Astros, and

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<v Speaker 3>then he didn't really get much of a shot. I

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<v Speaker 3>mean he did kind of, but he never really performed

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<v Speaker 3>with the Astros either. I'm very curious to see if

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<v Speaker 3>the market goes back to his Orioles days rather than

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<v Speaker 3>thinking of him as a platoon because he still is

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<v Speaker 3>a good player, and I think a team is going

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<v Speaker 3>to want to sign him to be their full time

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<v Speaker 3>starter rather than being a platoon guy. Also, Mancini could

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<v Speaker 3>play the outfield a little bit. Angels kind of backed

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<v Speaker 3>up on outfielders at the moment, so I like Void.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the first name that you brought up is

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<v Speaker 3>the best one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and Void is undoubtedly the cheapest option. And you're right,

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<v Speaker 2>they are backed up out field wise because they do

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<v Speaker 2>have Adele and Moniac as the fourth and fifth outfielder.

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<v Speaker 2>One of them is going to be in Salt Lake,

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<v Speaker 2>which is kind of brutal.

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<v Speaker 3>Who would you put in Salt Lake?

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<v Speaker 2>I guess Adele.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess Adele, but I feel like it should be

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<v Speaker 3>Montiac that I agree with you. I guess it's Adele.

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<v Speaker 3>I know, Alwa, he's so talented. Oak went first overall.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, now the big question are they in play for

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<v Speaker 2>a top four shortstop?

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<v Speaker 3>Not with the needs that they have at other places.

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<v Speaker 3>You just said to yourself, they're on the brinks of

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<v Speaker 3>the luxury tax. I mean, if they want to pay,

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<v Speaker 3>they want to have a two hundred and fifty two

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and seventy million dollar payroll. Sure, I just there's

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<v Speaker 3>no indications that that's the case. I mean, we have

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<v Speaker 3>the pucketbook. We're playing general manager with the Los Angeles Angels,

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<v Speaker 3>and they're there's a shortstop that I want to throw

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<v Speaker 3>at you. Who I think would be relatively cheap. It's

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<v Speaker 3>a reunion. I don't or I don't know if we're

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<v Speaker 3>thinking about the same guy not anymore. Jose Glacias. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>so I would I would sign Jose Glacias.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so I would sign Elvis Andrews.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, we're on the same That was the second name

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<v Speaker 3>that I was going to bring up. The reason why

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<v Speaker 3>I like kind of the Jose Glacias reunion there is

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<v Speaker 3>I still think that he's a good defensive player, while

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<v Speaker 3>Andrews like, I don't know if they need his bat

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<v Speaker 3>as much. I mean, they still could use his bat.

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<v Speaker 3>I like either or hmmm, I think.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember you got Fletcher on the bench too.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, who cares who cares.

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<v Speaker 2>But like he can also play a little short and

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<v Speaker 2>give an old guy some breaks. And that's why I

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<v Speaker 2>feel okay with Andrews.

0:19:50.280 --> 0:19:54.080
<v Speaker 3>He can't play short stop. David Fletcher played shortstop no

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<v Speaker 3>way this year? I know, but no way, Like that

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<v Speaker 3>can't be. I'm not saying he can't. I'm just saying

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<v Speaker 3>he can't. Like, no way, David Fletcher is going to

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<v Speaker 3>be taking reps at short for the Angels. They can't

0:20:09.400 --> 0:20:13.800
<v Speaker 3>do that. I'd rather put her Shalla there. You can't hint.

0:20:14.560 --> 0:20:18.439
<v Speaker 2>David Fletcher finished seventeenth in al MVP voting in twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>That's awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>Congrats, That is awesome, and that's why he has a

0:20:22.800 --> 0:20:25.679
<v Speaker 3>cult following. And probably Angels fans are like, stop disrespecting

0:20:25.720 --> 0:20:27.800
<v Speaker 3>David Fletcher. And I'm just like, sorry, do you want

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<v Speaker 3>to win or do you want like, do you want

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<v Speaker 3>a clown show?

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<v Speaker 2>Listen, arm and I disrespected Nick Madrigal yesterday, so we're

0:20:34.960 --> 0:20:37.760
<v Speaker 2>disrespecting David Fletcher today. That's just how that works.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but we don't have a short bias. We think

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<v Speaker 3>Ozel too is Hall of Famer. Yeah, and we like

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<v Speaker 3>the short pictures, so Droman.

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<v Speaker 2>Lighter all right, Andrews, Andrews or Iglesias.

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<v Speaker 3>Who's going to be cheaper, because I don't see much

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<v Speaker 3>of a difference there. I want to sign whoever is

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<v Speaker 3>cheaper because I want to add big names to the

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<v Speaker 3>starting rotation. And I want a bunch of bullpen guys because.

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<v Speaker 2>I Glasias is two years younger.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, Let's sign Andrews to a one year deal.

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<v Speaker 3>You think you take a one year because I think

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<v Speaker 3>Aglacy is going to be two or three.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Andrews takes a one year deal.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's sign Andrews then, because I want to spend Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I want to spend as least money as possible on

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<v Speaker 3>the shortstop position because they Orchella can play shortstop, so

0:21:33.000 --> 0:21:35.399
<v Speaker 3>if you're gonna kind of use both of them at

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<v Speaker 3>the same time. I kind of wish Elvis Andrews hit

0:21:37.480 --> 0:21:40.960
<v Speaker 3>left handed, but whatever, like a short stop platoon. I

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<v Speaker 3>think that's hilarious. But like with this day and age

0:21:44.240 --> 0:21:46.720
<v Speaker 3>in baseball. Also, one more thing about Jared Walste while

0:21:46.760 --> 0:21:49.400
<v Speaker 3>I'm on the subject of left you righty. I think

0:21:49.400 --> 0:21:50.960
<v Speaker 3>the shift is going to be big for him getting

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<v Speaker 3>rid of it because he was crushed by the shift

0:21:53.320 --> 0:21:55.160
<v Speaker 3>last year and he's always been crushed by the shift.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a guy who, you know, he's not necessarily pull happy,

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<v Speaker 3>but I've noticed that, Like one of the things I noticed,

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<v Speaker 3>like when he's pull happy, I mean, he crushes balls,

0:22:07.600 --> 0:22:10.080
<v Speaker 3>but when he's trying to, you know, shoot the ball

0:22:10.119 --> 0:22:11.959
<v Speaker 3>the other way, if he's trying to hit the ball

0:22:12.000 --> 0:22:15.080
<v Speaker 3>to the center field, much like, it looks prettier, but

0:22:15.119 --> 0:22:17.240
<v Speaker 3>it's not resulting in success. He's kind of just a

0:22:17.280 --> 0:22:21.200
<v Speaker 3>pull happy guy. And if you if you disavow the shift,

0:22:21.320 --> 0:22:23.120
<v Speaker 3>that I think will at least tick up his production

0:22:23.200 --> 0:22:25.480
<v Speaker 3>a little bit. So that's just on the Jared Walsh front,

0:22:25.520 --> 0:22:28.879
<v Speaker 3>but still just a couple more seconds on the shortstop front.

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<v Speaker 3>Give me Andrews because they still have zach netto like,

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<v Speaker 3>when is he coming up? Is he going to be

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<v Speaker 3>a factor this year at all? No? No, no.

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<v Speaker 2>If if everything goes according to plan, maybe at the

0:22:41.680 --> 0:22:43.080
<v Speaker 2>very end of the year. But you got to get

0:22:43.119 --> 0:22:43.680
<v Speaker 2>to the very end.

0:22:43.640 --> 0:22:45.679
<v Speaker 3>Of the year, and that's if everything goes well. So

0:22:45.680 --> 0:22:47.520
<v Speaker 3>we're just going to assume he's not the bank on it.

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<v Speaker 2>So I do like Andrews on a one year deal

0:22:50.320 --> 0:22:54.640
<v Speaker 2>for that reason, and if it goes really well, sign

0:22:54.720 --> 0:22:56.879
<v Speaker 2>him to another one year deal and have Neto takeover

0:22:56.920 --> 0:22:58.480
<v Speaker 2>midway through if Andrews isn't cunning.

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<v Speaker 3>It Like, we kind of got roast for the Gene

0:23:00.680 --> 0:23:03.760
<v Speaker 3>Cigar reunion thing because I guess there was a fight,

0:23:04.160 --> 0:23:06.280
<v Speaker 3>which I do kind of remember, but I didn't know

0:23:06.320 --> 0:23:08.880
<v Speaker 3>that there was like some disacreemance between management. I didn't

0:23:08.920 --> 0:23:10.640
<v Speaker 3>know he called people out, So that was my fault.

0:23:10.680 --> 0:23:12.440
<v Speaker 3>I remembered the fight, didn't think it was that big

0:23:12.480 --> 0:23:14.760
<v Speaker 3>of a deal. And then with Jose Glaci, it's like

0:23:14.800 --> 0:23:17.200
<v Speaker 3>sometimes a reunion doesn't happen, so that could be somewhere

0:23:17.200 --> 0:23:19.920
<v Speaker 3>where it's like, yeah, he ain't coming back, so yeah,

0:23:20.000 --> 0:23:21.800
<v Speaker 3>give me Andrews. That makes sense. He's been on the

0:23:21.800 --> 0:23:24.439
<v Speaker 3>West Coast. He played in Oakland. Yeah, I like, I

0:23:24.520 --> 0:23:25.000
<v Speaker 3>like Andrews.

0:23:25.160 --> 0:23:29.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, give me Elvis Andrews Revenge series in Oakland Electric

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<v Speaker 2>all right, like.

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<v Speaker 3>A Wednesday at one.

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<v Speaker 2>Easy and there's there's four hundred people there, all right.

0:23:36.960 --> 0:23:40.800
<v Speaker 2>So the additions that we made offensively are Luke Voight

0:23:41.040 --> 0:23:45.560
<v Speaker 2>as a bench slash platoon first baseman and Elvis Andrews

0:23:45.560 --> 0:23:48.640
<v Speaker 2>on a one year deal. I feel decent about that

0:23:48.640 --> 0:23:49.400
<v Speaker 2>that lineup.

0:23:49.800 --> 0:23:50.760
<v Speaker 3>We're kind on a roll.

0:23:51.040 --> 0:23:53.199
<v Speaker 2>We're kind of on a roll here, and we're not

0:23:53.359 --> 0:23:55.639
<v Speaker 2>being too crazy. We're talking about a guy that was

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<v Speaker 2>non tendered and a guy that was released last year,

0:23:58.600 --> 0:24:02.639
<v Speaker 2>so I feel like we're being fair. Here's how the

0:24:02.680 --> 0:24:08.119
<v Speaker 2>starting rotation shakes out right now, sho hal Tani's the one.

0:24:08.280 --> 0:24:11.919
<v Speaker 2>Tyler Anderson. They just signed thirty three year old at

0:24:12.000 --> 0:24:15.600
<v Speaker 2>time of opening day, Tyler Anderson three years, thirty nine

0:24:15.640 --> 0:24:19.879
<v Speaker 2>million dollars. I like it deal it is. You know,

0:24:20.800 --> 0:24:23.119
<v Speaker 2>he wasn't the best lefty on the market. Rodin was.

0:24:23.880 --> 0:24:26.520
<v Speaker 2>After that, things get a little shaky on the free

0:24:26.560 --> 0:24:29.960
<v Speaker 2>agent market, and Anderson was a great lefty to grab.

0:24:30.520 --> 0:24:33.960
<v Speaker 2>But Patrick Sandoval is also left handed. Jose Suarez is

0:24:33.960 --> 0:24:37.679
<v Speaker 2>also left handed. Reed Detmers is also left handed. I

0:24:37.720 --> 0:24:40.600
<v Speaker 2>want another right handed starting pitcher. Oh, by the way,

0:24:41.240 --> 0:24:43.880
<v Speaker 2>Tucker Davidson is left handed as well, and he's the

0:24:43.920 --> 0:24:47.120
<v Speaker 2>six as it stands right now. I want a right

0:24:47.160 --> 0:24:51.919
<v Speaker 2>handed pitcher that can be the two or the three. Oh,

0:24:52.040 --> 0:24:56.960
<v Speaker 2>Tani's the one. I don't feel great about the Angels

0:24:57.040 --> 0:25:00.160
<v Speaker 2>contending for the Al West. If Tyler Anderson is the two,

0:25:00.440 --> 0:25:03.200
<v Speaker 2>I would like if Anderson was the three. So can

0:25:03.240 --> 0:25:04.600
<v Speaker 2>we go after a righty two.

0:25:06.400 --> 0:25:10.040
<v Speaker 3>Can I also say that I think Anderson's the four.

0:25:11.040 --> 0:25:12.600
<v Speaker 3>I don't know how good all he's going to be

0:25:12.640 --> 0:25:16.760
<v Speaker 3>with the Angels. I like Sandoval, I do. I think

0:25:16.800 --> 0:25:20.240
<v Speaker 3>Sandoval will be a better pitcher than Tyler Anderson will

0:25:20.320 --> 0:25:20.800
<v Speaker 3>next year.

0:25:21.119 --> 0:25:23.800
<v Speaker 2>I like Debt Meres too. I'm not saying I like

0:25:23.840 --> 0:25:26.320
<v Speaker 2>Detmers more than I like Tyler Anderson, but Debtmers and

0:25:26.600 --> 0:25:28.480
<v Speaker 2>figuring out the slider at the end of the year.

0:25:29.000 --> 0:25:32.600
<v Speaker 2>I do think that they have four legitimately good starters here.

0:25:32.640 --> 0:25:34.880
<v Speaker 2>And Jose Suarez is a guy that you know can

0:25:34.920 --> 0:25:37.240
<v Speaker 2>be factored out, can be a multi inning reliever. So

0:25:37.640 --> 0:25:39.880
<v Speaker 2>let's go after a relatively big name in the right

0:25:39.880 --> 0:25:41.160
<v Speaker 2>handed starting pitching department.

0:25:41.200 --> 0:25:45.000
<v Speaker 3>You in, you know who I want on the Angels,

0:25:46.960 --> 0:25:53.240
<v Speaker 3>Jacob de Gram Jesus can't do that? Why not? Why not?

0:25:53.440 --> 0:25:58.560
<v Speaker 3>He's already We're not spending anything else. Shut up, seriously, though,

0:25:59.560 --> 0:26:02.800
<v Speaker 3>the angel are competing right now, right now, how much

0:26:02.840 --> 0:26:05.320
<v Speaker 3>longer are you gonna have Otani? You're gonna waste all

0:26:05.400 --> 0:26:10.199
<v Speaker 3>of trout If you are going to spend money, why not,

0:26:11.040 --> 0:26:15.320
<v Speaker 3>Jacob motherfucking d Grom. And the great thing about the

0:26:15.320 --> 0:26:19.359
<v Speaker 3>Angels is they have starting pitching depth. If dea Gram

0:26:19.400 --> 0:26:22.719
<v Speaker 3>has an injury here or there, they're not gonna fall

0:26:22.760 --> 0:26:25.800
<v Speaker 3>flat on their faces unless Trout and then Otani and

0:26:25.840 --> 0:26:27.639
<v Speaker 3>Walsh and Rento and they all get injured. That it's

0:26:27.680 --> 0:26:32.919
<v Speaker 3>all for nothing anyway. But this feels like a move

0:26:33.600 --> 0:26:37.600
<v Speaker 3>that could come out of nowhere. Right the Angels say

0:26:37.600 --> 0:26:40.720
<v Speaker 3>we're gonna offer you a four year deal worth one

0:26:40.840 --> 0:26:44.600
<v Speaker 3>hundred and eighty million dollars or something like that, maybe

0:26:44.640 --> 0:26:47.119
<v Speaker 3>four years, two hundred. They put all their eggs in

0:26:47.160 --> 0:26:49.919
<v Speaker 3>the Jacob de Gram basket. Kind of seems like an

0:26:49.960 --> 0:26:54.040
<v Speaker 3>Angel's deal anyway. And you put to Gram next to

0:26:54.119 --> 0:26:58.960
<v Speaker 3>Otani and then you have Sandaval. That's the righty. I mean,

0:26:59.000 --> 0:27:01.280
<v Speaker 3>we could go on some their names and make this

0:27:01.359 --> 0:27:06.400
<v Speaker 3>team very solid, or we can open up the check

0:27:06.440 --> 0:27:09.720
<v Speaker 3>book and say let's win now, let's win now. Are

0:27:09.720 --> 0:27:11.720
<v Speaker 3>we gonna beat the Ashros? I don't know, but de

0:27:11.800 --> 0:27:16.720
<v Speaker 3>Gram gives us a really good shot if everyone stays healthy. Yeah,

0:27:16.760 --> 0:27:19.720
<v Speaker 3>it's easy for me to tell you that the Angels

0:27:19.760 --> 0:27:21.440
<v Speaker 3>will be good with Jacob Gram. Every team would be

0:27:21.440 --> 0:27:23.639
<v Speaker 3>good with Jacob de Gram. But if we're not spending

0:27:23.680 --> 0:27:26.400
<v Speaker 3>on any of the shortstops, we're not buying anything else.

0:27:26.480 --> 0:27:29.600
<v Speaker 3>We're gonna buy some low relievers, and the Angels have

0:27:29.640 --> 0:27:33.000
<v Speaker 3>a big payroll. Anyway, some guys are off the books.

0:27:33.119 --> 0:27:35.760
<v Speaker 3>Justin Nepton is gone, a lot of other guy's gone.

0:27:36.840 --> 0:27:39.439
<v Speaker 3>Why not go get Jacob de Gram?

0:27:40.000 --> 0:27:43.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So my only pushback is durability. I have no

0:27:43.760 --> 0:27:46.440
<v Speaker 2>idea how durable de Gram is. Obviously when he's when

0:27:46.480 --> 0:27:48.840
<v Speaker 2>he's on the mound, he's the best pitcher on the planet.

0:27:49.960 --> 0:27:57.560
<v Speaker 2>But in an organization where fragility was king, and fragility

0:27:57.680 --> 0:28:00.720
<v Speaker 2>has been king for a long time, guys have not

0:28:00.840 --> 0:28:04.040
<v Speaker 2>been reliably on the field. Might I point you to

0:28:04.119 --> 0:28:07.320
<v Speaker 2>a guy that has been reliably on the field for

0:28:07.400 --> 0:28:11.199
<v Speaker 2>the entirety of his near two decade career. Except for

0:28:11.280 --> 0:28:14.840
<v Speaker 2>Tommy John, I think Justin Verlander is a little bit

0:28:14.880 --> 0:28:15.520
<v Speaker 2>better of a fit.

0:28:17.600 --> 0:28:22.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean I'll go, I'll take

0:28:22.200 --> 0:28:23.520
<v Speaker 3>Orlander like that.

0:28:24.000 --> 0:28:27.919
<v Speaker 2>Sure, I think you're guaranteed one hundred and seventy one

0:28:28.000 --> 0:28:31.160
<v Speaker 2>hundred and eighty innings from Verlander, and you're not guaranteed

0:28:31.160 --> 0:28:33.000
<v Speaker 2>that from de Gram at any point in his career.

0:28:33.080 --> 0:28:36.119
<v Speaker 2>I don't believe the human body can sustain one hundred

0:28:36.119 --> 0:28:38.720
<v Speaker 2>and three mile an hour darts one hundred times a game.

0:28:39.080 --> 0:28:41.480
<v Speaker 3>That's how crazy Verlinder is. He's forty.

0:28:41.640 --> 0:28:44.920
<v Speaker 2>We're like, yeah, forty, three years, one hundred and fifty.

0:28:45.000 --> 0:28:50.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I mean, yes, sure, I have nothing wrong

0:28:50.720 --> 0:28:53.880
<v Speaker 3>with that. Of course, it's exactly what I want. It's

0:28:53.920 --> 0:28:56.960
<v Speaker 3>the same conversation time Ace the Mega.

0:28:57.280 --> 0:29:02.960
<v Speaker 2>Right, Like, if Otani's the two, I'm putting like, I

0:29:03.000 --> 0:29:06.000
<v Speaker 2>don't I'm not allowed to bet on baseball. I will

0:29:06.040 --> 0:29:10.320
<v Speaker 2>go under any avenue possible to bet on the Angels

0:29:10.320 --> 0:29:12.600
<v Speaker 2>to win the World Series. Off Shoeotani's the two.

0:29:14.880 --> 0:29:17.800
<v Speaker 3>We're gonna do it again. We're gonna bet on their overtime.

0:29:17.960 --> 0:29:20.040
<v Speaker 3>Quite how much money I've lost in this overwind total

0:29:20.080 --> 0:29:21.520
<v Speaker 3>it's been like four years running.

0:29:21.960 --> 0:29:23.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I get it.

0:29:24.240 --> 0:29:26.520
<v Speaker 3>Now here's running, Jack, I'm not having a good time.

0:29:26.920 --> 0:29:27.800
<v Speaker 3>I get it.

0:29:27.800 --> 0:29:31.000
<v Speaker 2>It's an identical conversation to gram Orlander. We just had

0:29:31.000 --> 0:29:34.959
<v Speaker 2>the conversation real quick. If they don't get either of

0:29:35.000 --> 0:29:37.640
<v Speaker 2>those two guys, who are the other pitchers on the

0:29:37.640 --> 0:29:39.720
<v Speaker 2>market that jump out to you? And the reason that

0:29:39.760 --> 0:29:44.320
<v Speaker 2>we're not pitching trades right now is I think because

0:29:44.360 --> 0:29:47.680
<v Speaker 2>they just don't have any capital to trade from. They're

0:29:47.680 --> 0:29:49.760
<v Speaker 2>gonna hold on in that though they're obviously holding on

0:29:49.800 --> 0:29:52.760
<v Speaker 2>to a HOPI there's not much else on the farm

0:29:52.840 --> 0:29:56.760
<v Speaker 2>right now. We talked about the outfield surplus. You could

0:29:57.160 --> 0:30:01.160
<v Speaker 2>flip a Dell for somebody, but what Dell gonna get you.

0:30:01.480 --> 0:30:04.040
<v Speaker 2>I think there are better options on a free agent

0:30:04.120 --> 0:30:08.320
<v Speaker 2>market right now if they don't go and get de

0:30:08.480 --> 0:30:12.120
<v Speaker 2>Gram or Verlander. I'm not the biggest fan of Chris Bascid.

0:30:12.240 --> 0:30:15.000
<v Speaker 2>I really don't think that he's due for immense success

0:30:15.280 --> 0:30:21.760
<v Speaker 2>right now. My eyes gravitate towards Nate Yvaldi. My eyes

0:30:21.800 --> 0:30:25.280
<v Speaker 2>also gravitate towards Jamison tai On. I would feel a

0:30:25.320 --> 0:30:28.840
<v Speaker 2>little bit better with Yvaldi, but I think both those

0:30:28.840 --> 0:30:31.360
<v Speaker 2>guys could be solid options as threes.

0:30:33.160 --> 0:30:35.320
<v Speaker 3>The name that I was going to bring up, you

0:30:35.360 --> 0:30:39.240
<v Speaker 3>haven't mentioned him yet, and I'm actually surprised you didn't.

0:30:39.600 --> 0:30:45.200
<v Speaker 3>West Coast they already have Otani. What about CODEI senga.

0:30:45.000 --> 0:30:47.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that also works that.

0:30:48.200 --> 0:30:50.920
<v Speaker 3>I mean that that picture right there makes a lot

0:30:50.920 --> 0:30:55.200
<v Speaker 3>of sense to me. It's been really good over there

0:30:55.200 --> 0:30:58.800
<v Speaker 3>in Japan, just dominant. He's up to a hundred. He's

0:30:58.840 --> 0:31:02.560
<v Speaker 3>got that split, a vintage splitter, but he's got like

0:31:02.800 --> 0:31:06.640
<v Speaker 3>three other pitches. I mean it's it's hard to get

0:31:06.680 --> 0:31:09.280
<v Speaker 3>a lot of you know, video on this guy. But

0:31:09.360 --> 0:31:12.920
<v Speaker 3>the video I've seen, like he looks like the real deal.

0:31:13.000 --> 0:31:14.880
<v Speaker 3>I just don't think he's going to come over and

0:31:14.920 --> 0:31:16.920
<v Speaker 3>be an ace. And I don't even know if he's

0:31:16.920 --> 0:31:19.720
<v Speaker 3>gonna come over and be it two. So that's why, like,

0:31:19.800 --> 0:31:21.920
<v Speaker 3>I like him a lot. I think he makes a

0:31:21.960 --> 0:31:26.160
<v Speaker 3>lot of sense on this team. But it's just are

0:31:26.160 --> 0:31:28.080
<v Speaker 3>we trying to put them over the top. Like, if

0:31:28.080 --> 0:31:30.040
<v Speaker 3>we're trying to put them over the top, it's probably

0:31:30.040 --> 0:31:32.520
<v Speaker 3>either Verlin or de Grom. Because I agree with you

0:31:32.560 --> 0:31:36.640
<v Speaker 3>like Bassett is good, I don't think like Bassett is

0:31:36.720 --> 0:31:39.400
<v Speaker 3>the piece here. You know, you got Michael Waka, who

0:31:39.440 --> 0:31:41.840
<v Speaker 3>you could do on a short term deal again, You

0:31:41.920 --> 0:31:46.680
<v Speaker 3>got EVOLDI, you got guys like Ross Stripling, you got

0:31:46.680 --> 0:31:51.239
<v Speaker 3>Taiwan Walker. If you want ty On, I mean it

0:31:51.280 --> 0:31:55.040
<v Speaker 3>gets a little thin after that. So for me, the

0:31:55.120 --> 0:31:57.120
<v Speaker 3>two pitchers that I wanted to bring to the table

0:31:57.200 --> 0:31:59.960
<v Speaker 3>for you today was Jacob de Gram and Code I send.

0:32:02.280 --> 0:32:06.280
<v Speaker 3>But I love the Verlinder take. I just want a dog.

0:32:07.080 --> 0:32:09.840
<v Speaker 3>I don't want Waka. Even the Waka could be fine,

0:32:09.880 --> 0:32:14.040
<v Speaker 3>Stripling could be fine. I want a snarling dog on

0:32:14.120 --> 0:32:16.800
<v Speaker 3>the Angels A one a dominant figure.

0:32:18.480 --> 0:32:22.280
<v Speaker 2>Have you seen any like contract prediction that makes sense

0:32:22.320 --> 0:32:28.840
<v Speaker 2>for Senga? I've seen the very beginning of free agency.

0:32:28.880 --> 0:32:31.040
<v Speaker 2>I saw seven for one fifty five, which is what

0:32:31.120 --> 0:32:34.680
<v Speaker 2>Tanaka did, and then I saw things like four for sixty,

0:32:35.160 --> 0:32:40.040
<v Speaker 2>and those are two totally different numbers and years. I

0:32:40.200 --> 0:32:43.040
<v Speaker 2>don't know like and and I'm not even gonna try

0:32:43.040 --> 0:32:45.280
<v Speaker 2>and guess, because I'm not gonna pretend that I've watched

0:32:45.320 --> 0:32:47.600
<v Speaker 2>a whole year of Code I Senga. I've watched the

0:32:47.680 --> 0:32:51.560
<v Speaker 2>highlights that are available on YouTube. I've read write ups

0:32:51.560 --> 0:32:54.160
<v Speaker 2>of Code Singa, and that's about it. I have no

0:32:54.240 --> 0:32:58.440
<v Speaker 2>idea how to value his market. Is it a Seyasuzuki market?

0:32:58.480 --> 0:33:00.880
<v Speaker 2>Are we gonna see five years ninety? I think five

0:33:00.960 --> 0:33:03.120
<v Speaker 2>years ninety makes a lot of sense. But seven for

0:33:03.200 --> 0:33:05.760
<v Speaker 2>one fifty five for a guy that you have no

0:33:05.880 --> 0:33:08.240
<v Speaker 2>idea how he's gonna perform, I don't think it makes

0:33:08.320 --> 0:33:12.680
<v Speaker 2>much sense. So that's the that's the frustrating thing. It's

0:33:12.720 --> 0:33:17.080
<v Speaker 2>my favorite thing about international free agency. It's my favorite

0:33:17.120 --> 0:33:22.120
<v Speaker 2>thing about the NBA Draft and grabbing a Porzingis or

0:33:22.120 --> 0:33:25.000
<v Speaker 2>grabbing a Luka Dancic what the fuck are you gonna get?

0:33:25.080 --> 0:33:28.360
<v Speaker 2>I have no idea. That's fun with code is Sanga

0:33:28.440 --> 0:33:31.280
<v Speaker 2>because you could get Tanaki, you could get Darvish. You

0:33:31.280 --> 0:33:34.360
<v Speaker 2>could also get Kohey Arija. I've got no idea. It

0:33:34.520 --> 0:33:37.640
<v Speaker 2>sounds more like Tanaka and Darvish than ari Hara. But

0:33:38.320 --> 0:33:39.680
<v Speaker 2>you just have no idea.

0:33:40.160 --> 0:33:41.160
<v Speaker 3>So have no idea.

0:33:41.360 --> 0:33:44.720
<v Speaker 2>That's the worry for me when we've been on this

0:33:44.800 --> 0:33:46.959
<v Speaker 2>team like they're gonna be great and then they fucking

0:33:47.080 --> 0:33:51.160
<v Speaker 2>suck every year. So I want somebody that I'm gonna

0:33:51.200 --> 0:33:54.000
<v Speaker 2>put If I'm Perrymanassio, I'm putting my head on the

0:33:54.000 --> 0:33:56.400
<v Speaker 2>pillow saying I've got Jacob fucking.

0:33:56.240 --> 0:33:57.080
<v Speaker 3>De Gram on this team.

0:33:57.160 --> 0:34:01.000
<v Speaker 2>I've got Jason Erlander on this team. So I feel

0:34:01.040 --> 0:34:05.080
<v Speaker 2>a lot better about somebody that has, you know, a

0:34:05.320 --> 0:34:08.520
<v Speaker 2>seven to shit if you're signing Verlander, like eighteen year

0:34:08.560 --> 0:34:09.840
<v Speaker 2>major league career under.

0:34:09.680 --> 0:34:14.799
<v Speaker 3>Their belt, exactly, I think with kode I Sanga, think

0:34:14.840 --> 0:34:17.839
<v Speaker 3>about it. Kevin Gosman, Robbie Ray, these guys were five

0:34:17.920 --> 0:34:19.960
<v Speaker 3>years one ten, five years one hundred, Like, are you

0:34:20.000 --> 0:34:22.680
<v Speaker 3>giving quote I Sanga more than that? I'm not. Robbie

0:34:22.719 --> 0:34:27.000
<v Speaker 3>Ray won the cy young. Kevin Gosman looked amazing with

0:34:27.040 --> 0:34:30.359
<v Speaker 3>San Francisco and then looked amazing again with Toronto. Are

0:34:30.400 --> 0:34:33.120
<v Speaker 3>you giving code I sing a more than that? No,

0:34:33.360 --> 0:34:35.120
<v Speaker 3>you can't. You can't.

0:34:35.480 --> 0:34:39.239
<v Speaker 2>But like one two with nasty offspeed.

0:34:41.800 --> 0:34:43.759
<v Speaker 3>You know he's gonna come over like Tanaka. Do you

0:34:43.760 --> 0:34:46.120
<v Speaker 3>remember Tanaka? I feel like I heard reports that he

0:34:46.160 --> 0:34:48.920
<v Speaker 3>was ninety eight and then he comes over he's ninety one. Like,

0:34:49.480 --> 0:34:52.160
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if these guys are one hundred and two.

0:34:52.280 --> 0:34:54.920
<v Speaker 3>I bet Senga is gonna be ninety four to ninety

0:34:54.960 --> 0:34:56.560
<v Speaker 3>six teams.

0:34:56.800 --> 0:35:01.359
<v Speaker 2>So the rumor around NBA teams was they were and

0:35:01.400 --> 0:35:03.439
<v Speaker 2>like we saw it with the utah Jas, like trying

0:35:03.480 --> 0:35:07.759
<v Speaker 2>to just sell every piece in order to create the

0:35:07.800 --> 0:35:10.120
<v Speaker 2>best odds in the twenty twenty three draft, because that's

0:35:10.120 --> 0:35:14.640
<v Speaker 2>when wehen Banyama is coming over. Teams were were looking

0:35:14.640 --> 0:35:16.960
<v Speaker 2>at the twenty twenty three draft like four years ago,

0:35:17.040 --> 0:35:20.640
<v Speaker 2>like Hey, there's this kid, Victor Wembanyama who's gonna be insane.

0:35:21.040 --> 0:35:23.239
<v Speaker 2>I feel like that's what teams are gonna do, Like

0:35:23.239 --> 0:35:26.239
<v Speaker 2>they're going to clear the payroll for Roki Sasaki in

0:35:26.320 --> 0:35:28.120
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty seven or twenty twenty eight.

0:35:28.360 --> 0:35:30.480
<v Speaker 3>That's the dude, that's the dude.

0:35:30.520 --> 0:35:33.640
<v Speaker 2>It's like it's Caleb Williams. Like, do the Colts want

0:35:33.640 --> 0:35:37.200
<v Speaker 2>to suck this year to get Bryce Young or do

0:35:37.280 --> 0:35:40.000
<v Speaker 2>they want to really suck next year to get Caleb Williams.

0:35:40.080 --> 0:35:43.680
<v Speaker 2>I think the answer is the latter. So I'm not saying, like, hey,

0:35:43.719 --> 0:35:45.320
<v Speaker 2>let's plan for twenty twenty seven.

0:35:45.400 --> 0:35:48.799
<v Speaker 3>But is it that far? I thought it was like

0:35:48.840 --> 0:35:50.040
<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty five ish.

0:35:50.280 --> 0:35:52.799
<v Speaker 2>Don't think he's gonna get posted until like maybe twenty

0:35:52.840 --> 0:35:53.319
<v Speaker 2>twenty five.

0:35:53.360 --> 0:35:55.560
<v Speaker 3>I have known, but it's in a while. It's a while.

0:35:56.080 --> 0:35:59.480
<v Speaker 3>It's not something to worry about on December first of

0:35:59.520 --> 0:36:04.200
<v Speaker 3>twenty two. Need to Yeah, ship, you're right, so here

0:36:04.239 --> 0:36:07.399
<v Speaker 3>here we go. Yeah, here we go. I think we

0:36:07.520 --> 0:36:12.320
<v Speaker 3>signed Verlander because I want to add to this bullpen.

0:36:12.640 --> 0:36:18.000
<v Speaker 3>And if we signed to Gram we have no money left.

0:36:18.080 --> 0:36:19.000
<v Speaker 2>But right?

0:36:19.200 --> 0:36:21.960
<v Speaker 3>Or do we just sign to Grom because it's Grom

0:36:22.040 --> 0:36:26.839
<v Speaker 3>but money left too? Have you seen the Grom pitch? Yeah?

0:36:26.880 --> 0:36:28.600
<v Speaker 2>He's really good, pretty good.

0:36:29.840 --> 0:36:34.879
<v Speaker 3>He'd be good on the Angels. Do you think this

0:36:34.920 --> 0:36:35.560
<v Speaker 3>is so hard?

0:36:35.640 --> 0:36:39.279
<v Speaker 2>Okay, they don't need any more starting pitching. I don't

0:36:39.280 --> 0:36:46.880
<v Speaker 2>want to. I don't want to, don't want anybody. What

0:36:46.880 --> 0:36:51.799
<v Speaker 2>what did we just signed Verlander two three for one

0:36:52.560 --> 0:36:53.160
<v Speaker 2>thirty five.

0:36:54.280 --> 0:36:59.280
<v Speaker 3>Oh oh that hurts?

0:37:00.800 --> 0:37:06.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, sure, what did Schureser got three for one thirty yeah?

0:37:06.440 --> 0:37:07.800
<v Speaker 3>One two or something?

0:37:07.920 --> 0:37:10.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? So like Verlander, he's gonna pull the Lindor shit,

0:37:10.320 --> 0:37:12.600
<v Speaker 2>Like I need one more million dollars than Sureser because

0:37:12.600 --> 0:37:13.720
<v Speaker 2>I just won the fucking Scion.

0:37:14.400 --> 0:37:15.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and he deserves it.

0:37:17.320 --> 0:37:19.799
<v Speaker 2>All right, So we just gave Verlander that we're done

0:37:19.800 --> 0:37:20.760
<v Speaker 2>in the starting rotation.

0:37:21.600 --> 0:37:23.120
<v Speaker 3>Let's find bullpen pieces.

0:37:23.160 --> 0:37:26.400
<v Speaker 2>And like, you can't go sign a closer now because

0:37:26.440 --> 0:37:29.560
<v Speaker 2>you just signed Justin Verlander, even though they might.

0:37:29.440 --> 0:37:30.080
<v Speaker 3>Need a closer.

0:37:30.080 --> 0:37:35.080
<v Speaker 2>Who's their closer slotted in right now? Jimmy Hrget. That sucks, loop, Like,

0:37:35.200 --> 0:37:37.640
<v Speaker 2>I love Jimmy Hrget, but he can't It was fine,

0:37:38.520 --> 0:37:40.600
<v Speaker 2>but he can't be the closer. Yeah, but what does

0:37:40.640 --> 0:37:43.919
<v Speaker 2>closer even mean anymore major League Baseball? The closer means

0:37:43.960 --> 0:37:46.520
<v Speaker 2>you got huge nuts, and I'm not sure Jimmy Hurgant

0:37:46.640 --> 0:37:47.400
<v Speaker 2>is huge nuts.

0:37:47.600 --> 0:37:49.120
<v Speaker 3>Have you seen Jimmy Hurget's nuts?

0:37:49.239 --> 0:37:51.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well no, I've seen his slaughter. I haven't seen

0:37:51.520 --> 0:37:53.359
<v Speaker 2>his nuts. I gotta see his nuts. That's the thing,

0:37:53.440 --> 0:37:55.320
<v Speaker 2>Jimmy Hrget, If you want to shoot me, at Twitter.

0:37:55.360 --> 0:37:58.759
<v Speaker 2>DM don't post that because it'll like pick up and

0:37:58.800 --> 0:38:01.279
<v Speaker 2>go viral. But if you do want to send me

0:38:01.320 --> 0:38:04.240
<v Speaker 2>like a nut gauge, I'll decide if you're a closer

0:38:04.320 --> 0:38:04.520
<v Speaker 2>or not.

0:38:06.239 --> 0:38:08.200
<v Speaker 3>All right now that we're done with his nuts, they

0:38:08.239 --> 0:38:15.200
<v Speaker 3>have lefties, they have loop, and they have Kihata, so

0:38:15.239 --> 0:38:18.120
<v Speaker 3>it's not like, oh, we absolutely need add a lefty

0:38:18.200 --> 0:38:21.439
<v Speaker 3>like we had to with the Mariners, so we can

0:38:21.640 --> 0:38:25.480
<v Speaker 3>be kind of creative here. So like right now, and

0:38:25.560 --> 0:38:28.520
<v Speaker 3>you definitely should go check out just Baseball dot com

0:38:28.640 --> 0:38:31.000
<v Speaker 3>because we have every article under the sun. And right

0:38:31.000 --> 0:38:36.400
<v Speaker 3>now I'm scrolling through our best relievers available and a

0:38:36.440 --> 0:38:41.319
<v Speaker 3>guy with closer experience who is a righty who I

0:38:41.360 --> 0:38:44.840
<v Speaker 3>think makes sense if Herget's nuts aren't big enough, which

0:38:44.920 --> 0:38:47.759
<v Speaker 3>I'm not saying that they aren't. And this article is

0:38:47.800 --> 0:38:50.760
<v Speaker 3>written by our guy, Lego Morgenstern, who is an absolute

0:38:50.840 --> 0:38:53.759
<v Speaker 3>dog Leo. If you're listening to this, love you. What

0:38:53.800 --> 0:38:58.000
<v Speaker 3>about David Robertson, Yeah, is he going to be that expensive?

0:38:58.360 --> 0:38:58.520
<v Speaker 2>No?

0:38:59.120 --> 0:39:03.160
<v Speaker 3>Thirty eight. So we're bringing in two just old bags

0:39:03.160 --> 0:39:05.160
<v Speaker 3>to pitch. But like I kind of like both of them,

0:39:05.239 --> 0:39:07.839
<v Speaker 3>Like David Robertson can still be a guy. He had

0:39:07.880 --> 0:39:10.280
<v Speaker 3>a two four zero e er last year. You probably

0:39:10.280 --> 0:39:11.799
<v Speaker 3>didn't know that. You probably didn't know he also had

0:39:11.840 --> 0:39:13.799
<v Speaker 3>twenty saves. He also probably didn't know they had eight

0:39:13.800 --> 0:39:16.359
<v Speaker 3>blund saves. But you know that's gonna happen. A lot

0:39:16.440 --> 0:39:20.640
<v Speaker 3>of the peripherals don't love him, but they've never loved him,

0:39:20.680 --> 0:39:23.719
<v Speaker 3>and the you know, if you look at stuff plus

0:39:24.120 --> 0:39:27.480
<v Speaker 3>by mister Enosaris, I don't think he's gonna love David

0:39:27.560 --> 0:39:29.919
<v Speaker 3>Robertson either. But David Robertson gets out and he's still

0:39:29.920 --> 0:39:32.160
<v Speaker 3>getting outs, and he has that closer experience, and he

0:39:32.280 --> 0:39:35.400
<v Speaker 3>was just in the playoffs. I think signing David roberts

0:39:35.440 --> 0:39:38.280
<v Speaker 3>into a one year deal makes a lot of sense.

0:39:38.320 --> 0:39:38.480
<v Speaker 2>Here.

0:39:39.360 --> 0:39:46.200
<v Speaker 4>Let's sign two or three MM two or three two

0:39:47.440 --> 0:39:50.319
<v Speaker 4>signed two, and I want Tommy Kinley on the Angels.

0:39:50.520 --> 0:39:53.080
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So Cainlee was a name that I was thinking about.

0:39:53.080 --> 0:39:54.879
<v Speaker 2>The Other name that I was thinking about was Chad Green.

0:39:56.920 --> 0:40:00.000
<v Speaker 3>No, Yankees are resigning Jad Green? No, yeah, we could.

0:40:00.040 --> 0:40:01.960
<v Speaker 3>We can put them on the Angels, I mean yeah.

0:40:02.160 --> 0:40:03.040
<v Speaker 3>Or Michael Fulmer.

0:40:04.520 --> 0:40:07.920
<v Speaker 2>Loom Fulmer might be a bit expensive because you're buying

0:40:08.239 --> 0:40:10.480
<v Speaker 2>high on Fulmer. He just had a good year.

0:40:11.360 --> 0:40:13.279
<v Speaker 3>Pretty good year three three nine y r N sixty

0:40:13.320 --> 0:40:14.600
<v Speaker 3>three innings year.

0:40:14.640 --> 0:40:16.560
<v Speaker 2>But Chad Green like didn't have a year, you know

0:40:16.600 --> 0:40:18.719
<v Speaker 2>what I mean? And Kainlee didn't really have a year.

0:40:18.760 --> 0:40:21.440
<v Speaker 2>So you've got a chance to buy low if you

0:40:21.520 --> 0:40:22.920
<v Speaker 2>broke the bank on Verlander.

0:40:23.280 --> 0:40:25.440
<v Speaker 3>I kind of think Kailee's going to be cheaper than Green.

0:40:26.080 --> 0:40:29.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, probably, but I don't think Chad Green is going

0:40:29.960 --> 0:40:32.840
<v Speaker 2>to be that expensive. So I how about two of

0:40:32.880 --> 0:40:35.320
<v Speaker 2>the three Robertson, Green Kainley.

0:40:35.880 --> 0:40:37.880
<v Speaker 3>You have to sign Robertson. That has to be a

0:40:37.880 --> 0:40:39.520
<v Speaker 3>guy that you signed, so that has to be one

0:40:39.560 --> 0:40:41.320
<v Speaker 3>of them. And I think we flip a coin between

0:40:41.360 --> 0:40:43.400
<v Speaker 3>Kaylee and Green. I would sign with Kainlee because I

0:40:43.440 --> 0:40:45.920
<v Speaker 3>think he's going to be slightly cheaper and the upside

0:40:45.920 --> 0:40:48.280
<v Speaker 3>is better with him. I think what you gave.

0:40:48.120 --> 0:40:50.160
<v Speaker 2>Me Andrews and Verlander, I'm in.

0:40:50.160 --> 0:40:54.200
<v Speaker 3>On Kainley Kainlee. Okay, all right? How much is Cainlee

0:40:54.200 --> 0:40:56.920
<v Speaker 3>worth five bucks.

0:40:58.160 --> 0:40:58.960
<v Speaker 2>One year.

0:41:01.719 --> 0:41:04.040
<v Speaker 3>Or three million? Okay? Three and a half?

0:41:04.040 --> 0:41:06.160
<v Speaker 2>Three point five three?

0:41:07.440 --> 0:41:11.040
<v Speaker 3>What is Robertson worth one year? Nine twenty.

0:41:12.360 --> 0:41:16.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm kidding, I'm kidding, like six seven.

0:41:16.920 --> 0:41:17.760
<v Speaker 3>Seven and a half.

0:41:18.200 --> 0:41:20.560
<v Speaker 2>God, that's a lot of more like this number adds

0:41:20.640 --> 0:41:23.320
<v Speaker 2>up quickly in the Angels. I know tax, So okay,

0:41:23.480 --> 0:41:25.120
<v Speaker 2>don't Oh fuck, Anthony Rendell.

0:41:25.160 --> 0:41:27.759
<v Speaker 3>Let's go over I know Rendo. God damn it. Let's

0:41:27.760 --> 0:41:30.160
<v Speaker 3>go over the Let's go over what we just spent.

0:41:30.400 --> 0:41:32.600
<v Speaker 3>So the Angel's payroll is at one hundred and forty

0:41:32.640 --> 0:41:33.680
<v Speaker 3>six million dollars.

0:41:33.760 --> 0:41:34.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay.

0:41:35.600 --> 0:41:38.080
<v Speaker 3>The luxury tax Tier one of the luxury tax is

0:41:38.080 --> 0:41:40.560
<v Speaker 3>two hundred and thirty million dollars this year. This is

0:41:40.560 --> 0:41:43.719
<v Speaker 3>also year, Yeah, this past year. What did it move?

0:41:44.600 --> 0:41:47.840
<v Speaker 2>No, I'm not sure. I think it's isn't it the average?

0:41:48.040 --> 0:41:49.240
<v Speaker 2>It's some confidence.

0:41:49.280 --> 0:41:51.200
<v Speaker 3>People can get mad at us on Twitter. Sorry, I

0:41:51.239 --> 0:41:53.200
<v Speaker 3>think it's two thirty. That's the parameters that we're going.

0:41:53.640 --> 0:41:59.399
<v Speaker 2>We'll call it two thirty one five plus forty five

0:41:59.480 --> 0:42:00.359
<v Speaker 2>for Verlin.

0:42:00.680 --> 0:42:05.319
<v Speaker 3>Forty five a year. Oh my, oh yeah, you're right,

0:42:05.400 --> 0:42:08.520
<v Speaker 3>because that's what three years divided by one thirty five is.

0:42:09.200 --> 0:42:10.359
<v Speaker 3>That is insane.

0:42:10.920 --> 0:42:18.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's crazy, but we're doing it. We're Andrews is making.

0:42:18.200 --> 0:42:25.000
<v Speaker 3>Six ten, eight eight nine.

0:42:27.000 --> 0:42:33.279
<v Speaker 2>All right, that's two hundred yeah, two hundred plus two

0:42:33.280 --> 0:42:35.279
<v Speaker 2>point five for Luke Voight.

0:42:36.960 --> 0:42:37.400
<v Speaker 3>Three.

0:42:37.520 --> 0:42:39.400
<v Speaker 2>You just got no tender dude.

0:42:41.520 --> 0:42:43.280
<v Speaker 3>Led the league a hole runs in that short season.

0:42:43.320 --> 0:42:45.880
<v Speaker 3>The same season David Fletcher was the MVP.

0:42:46.200 --> 0:42:47.319
<v Speaker 2>Three two oh three.

0:42:48.760 --> 0:42:53.120
<v Speaker 3>Now Robertson, Robertson is.

0:42:54.640 --> 0:42:54.920
<v Speaker 2>Six.

0:42:56.280 --> 0:42:58.440
<v Speaker 3>You said seven and a half seven? All right?

0:42:58.800 --> 0:43:06.360
<v Speaker 2>Shit, alright? Ten plus four for Canley. That's three fifteen

0:43:07.680 --> 0:43:10.719
<v Speaker 2>plus all the arbitration. They'll pay the luxury tax like

0:43:10.719 --> 0:43:13.800
<v Speaker 2>they're gonna be over two thirty. It's two fourteen before arbitration.

0:43:13.960 --> 0:43:17.600
<v Speaker 2>But do you care? This is your last chance with

0:43:17.719 --> 0:43:20.520
<v Speaker 2>Sho hail Tani because he's a free agent after this year.

0:43:21.040 --> 0:43:23.719
<v Speaker 3>If you are the Angels, do you think that paying

0:43:23.760 --> 0:43:25.399
<v Speaker 3>the luxury tax this year is worth it?

0:43:25.920 --> 0:43:26.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:43:26.960 --> 0:43:30.919
<v Speaker 3>Me too, I mean no, like honestly no, because they're

0:43:30.960 --> 0:43:34.839
<v Speaker 3>not competing with the Astros, and let we know what's

0:43:34.880 --> 0:43:35.640
<v Speaker 3>gonna happen with them.

0:43:35.719 --> 0:43:37.719
<v Speaker 2>All you gotta do is get in. Look at the Phillies.

0:43:38.080 --> 0:43:40.080
<v Speaker 3>I know that's all you gotta do is get in.

0:43:40.200 --> 0:43:43.080
<v Speaker 3>But at the same time, have you seen the Al East.

0:43:43.120 --> 0:43:44.560
<v Speaker 3>A lot of teams are still pretty good over there.

0:43:44.600 --> 0:43:46.239
<v Speaker 3>The Orioles are only turning up. The Blue Che's are

0:43:46.280 --> 0:43:48.319
<v Speaker 3>still gonna be good, Yankees are still gonna be good,

0:43:48.760 --> 0:43:51.040
<v Speaker 3>Raids are still gonna be good. Guardians are still gonna

0:43:51.080 --> 0:43:56.000
<v Speaker 3>be good. White Sox are gonna suck, So that's good. Right,

0:43:59.440 --> 0:44:02.439
<v Speaker 3>Wake up, this is the toughest one. This is going

0:44:02.480 --> 0:44:07.279
<v Speaker 3>to be the hardest, most painful episode we record until

0:44:07.680 --> 0:44:11.719
<v Speaker 3>we do top ten. Second basemen and people send us

0:44:11.920 --> 0:44:15.719
<v Speaker 3>death threats about the fourth versus the fifth second.

0:44:15.520 --> 0:44:18.719
<v Speaker 2>Basis fine, that's fine. I'm better with death threats than

0:44:18.719 --> 0:44:20.680
<v Speaker 2>I am trying to stay under the luxury tax.

0:44:22.000 --> 0:44:23.879
<v Speaker 3>That's a good quote. That'll be all the quote cards though.

0:44:23.880 --> 0:44:26.239
<v Speaker 3>Probably that's fine.

0:44:29.160 --> 0:44:32.680
<v Speaker 2>I yeah, it's worth going over that two thirty mark.

0:44:32.800 --> 0:44:38.040
<v Speaker 2>It is because you're gonna spend the next couple decades

0:44:38.040 --> 0:44:42.960
<v Speaker 2>saying what if? But exactly, this whole era of Angels

0:44:42.960 --> 0:44:44.279
<v Speaker 2>baseball has been what if.

0:44:46.360 --> 0:44:47.359
<v Speaker 3>That's what I'm dealing with.

0:44:47.560 --> 0:44:53.720
<v Speaker 2>Oh, Tani's gonna say four one hundred, now three fifty,

0:44:54.120 --> 0:44:54.800
<v Speaker 2>like three.

0:44:54.719 --> 0:44:59.080
<v Speaker 3>Hundred and fifty million dollars a year, but then going

0:44:59.120 --> 0:45:01.920
<v Speaker 3>to command eighty.

0:45:01.120 --> 0:45:04.000
<v Speaker 2>Because you did this with fucking Anthony Rendon. You can't

0:45:04.000 --> 0:45:04.759
<v Speaker 2>pay Otani that.

0:45:06.440 --> 0:45:08.879
<v Speaker 3>How's that working? Bro?

0:45:09.000 --> 0:45:11.480
<v Speaker 2>If I was an Angels fan, I would hate Anthony Rendel,

0:45:12.680 --> 0:45:15.040
<v Speaker 2>but he could be so good, he could be great.

0:45:15.200 --> 0:45:20.600
<v Speaker 2>I know you're so hamstrung financially because of that, dude.

0:45:20.800 --> 0:45:26.480
<v Speaker 3>I know it's thirty seven million dollars. He's out thirty

0:45:27.160 --> 0:45:31.560
<v Speaker 3>seven million because everybody that we just signed is on

0:45:31.560 --> 0:45:34.640
<v Speaker 3>a one year deal except for Lander. Yes, we have

0:45:34.680 --> 0:45:35.480
<v Speaker 3>to sign Lander.

0:45:36.040 --> 0:45:39.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, do it, do it. I'm I'm in. I'm fully

0:45:39.640 --> 0:45:42.680
<v Speaker 2>in on this, I'm fully in on paying the luxury tax.

0:45:43.200 --> 0:45:45.839
<v Speaker 3>Okay. So this is now their lineup with all of

0:45:45.880 --> 0:45:49.920
<v Speaker 3>the deals that we signed. Renhifo's at second trouts and center,

0:45:49.960 --> 0:45:54.960
<v Speaker 3>Otani's at DH wards and left, Rendome's at third. Renfrozen right.

0:45:55.920 --> 0:45:59.000
<v Speaker 3>We have a Walsh Voight platoon which is kind of fire.

0:45:59.480 --> 0:46:03.400
<v Speaker 3>We have Geo Orchella, Elvis Andrews at short, and then

0:46:03.400 --> 0:46:07.520
<v Speaker 3>we have a Logan Hoppy Max Dassy catcher thing.

0:46:07.640 --> 0:46:10.200
<v Speaker 2>With Adele on the bench.

0:46:12.800 --> 0:46:18.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Ren frozen right, Okay, Otani and Verlin are at

0:46:18.920 --> 0:46:22.080
<v Speaker 3>the top of the rotation. Awesome. Then you have Sandoval

0:46:22.239 --> 0:46:28.160
<v Speaker 3>Anderson Detmers. That's awesome. That is awesome. Then in the bullpen,

0:46:28.480 --> 0:46:33.480
<v Speaker 3>you got her Hurget's nuts, you got Tapera, you got Loop,

0:46:34.000 --> 0:46:38.000
<v Speaker 3>you got Kinley, you got David Robertson, you have Bria,

0:46:38.360 --> 0:46:42.160
<v Speaker 3>you have Kihata, and then you have some other guys.

0:46:42.200 --> 0:46:44.960
<v Speaker 3>But then it's like no, That's what I was about

0:46:44.960 --> 0:46:47.400
<v Speaker 3>to say, is like swingman, if anybody gets hurt, you

0:46:47.400 --> 0:46:51.000
<v Speaker 3>have Suarez and and Davidson. That's a good team. It's

0:46:51.040 --> 0:46:54.840
<v Speaker 3>a good ass team. And sil Seth that's probably is

0:46:54.880 --> 0:46:56.720
<v Speaker 3>that better than the Mariners on paper?

0:46:57.239 --> 0:47:00.439
<v Speaker 2>But it's always on page.

0:47:00.520 --> 0:47:02.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but it doesn't matter. The Mariner's just gonna win

0:47:02.680 --> 0:47:07.520
<v Speaker 3>more games, damn it. Yeah, I think we did well.

0:47:07.760 --> 0:47:09.520
<v Speaker 2>I got to figure out a way to weather this storm.

0:47:09.640 --> 0:47:11.799
<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna make it through the twenty twenty three

0:47:11.800 --> 0:47:13.680
<v Speaker 2>season with the Angels, me neither.

0:47:13.760 --> 0:47:14.560
<v Speaker 3>But we got through it.

0:47:15.200 --> 0:47:17.719
<v Speaker 2>Dude, If Elvis Andrews signs with the La Angels, I'm

0:47:17.719 --> 0:47:21.040
<v Speaker 2>getting a jersey. I'm buying one.

0:47:20.320 --> 0:47:24.360
<v Speaker 3>That's gonna be a fire jersey. It's fire a Verlinder

0:47:24.400 --> 0:47:25.600
<v Speaker 3>Angel jersey. I'll buy that one.

0:47:25.719 --> 0:47:28.520
<v Speaker 2>Actually, a void Verlander. I would get a void Verlander.

0:47:29.800 --> 0:47:32.320
<v Speaker 2>Maybe you tell me Kinley Angels.

0:47:32.880 --> 0:47:34.400
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0:47:36.040 --> 0:47:38.560
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0:47:38.560 --> 0:47:40.120
<v Speaker 2>I got to get that, especially because I'm in dire

0:47:40.200 --> 0:47:40.960
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0:48:01.800 --> 0:48:05.399
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