Speaker 1: Ms secker.
Speaker 2: By. We will see you.
Speaker 3: Tis the gunner.
Speaker 2: Welcome to hang out, Peter. Okay, let's talk about the
Speaker 2: La Angels. No, yes, time, dude.
Speaker 3: We do this every single year, Jack, You and I
Speaker 3: we play general manager for the Los Angeles Angels and
Speaker 3: we go in after we look at their roster, we
Speaker 3: look at what they can do, and we think the
Speaker 3: world of them and what did they do? Every single year?
Speaker 3: This is the episode that I was dreading the most.
Speaker 3: With that said, they looked pretty good.
Speaker 2: They look great. So that's why we're knocking it out
Speaker 2: as the third team as the GM series Just Baseball Show,
Speaker 2: Jack Peter. Today is Thursday, November thirty one, No December.
Speaker 3: One, December one, my birthdays and few days my birthdays
Speaker 3: and two days. Thoughts on that.
Speaker 2: Happy early birthday? Chief, damn.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but we have an episode. We have an episode
Speaker 3: on Friday, so save it. Save it?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Fine, all right, Jack Peter. Two days before Peter's birthday,
Speaker 2: we're talking about the La Angels Today. You're in Santa Barbara.
Speaker 2: I'm in Indy New Pad with the brick wall. The
Speaker 2: brick wall is not going to be the background. I've
Speaker 2: got I Okay, adult move here. Indianapolis and New York
Speaker 2: rent are two very different things. While you are amped
Speaker 2: to live in a studio by yourself, I was just
Speaker 2: in a studio by myself. I was like, I wouldn't
Speaker 2: mind more space because I can't just rip the bodega
Speaker 2: and like go have fun every night. Sometimes I need
Speaker 2: to be a hermit. And I was like, you know what,
Speaker 2: time for a one bedroom? So I moved into a
Speaker 2: one bedroom. How about that.
Speaker 3: I'm very proud of you. I wish the brick background
Speaker 3: could be your background because, as many people know, the
Speaker 3: brick background for me kind of changed baseball media.
Speaker 2: Yes, and then you decided to abandon it with two
Speaker 2: portraits from our guy Kyle Taylor, who I think is
Speaker 2: still commissioning the burly one for me. So I'm really
Speaker 2: excited to see that thing. But I will not be
Speaker 2: keeping the brick. You had red brick. I've got yellow brick.
Speaker 2: If it was red brick, I would really think about it.
Speaker 2: Yellow brick. I'm kind of opposed, but that's the deal.
Speaker 2: That's enough to core. I promise we're going to have
Speaker 2: some fun prints in the back and all that. But
Speaker 2: let's talk about the La Angels here, because the Angels
Speaker 2: for the unteenth year in a row, were just in
Speaker 2: utter disappointment. There was nothing going on there when we
Speaker 2: thought there was everything going on. Here, you have Mike
Speaker 2: Trout and Sho Hao Tani. Trout again an abbreviated masterpiece.
Speaker 2: He doesn't play a full one sixty two.
Speaker 3: If he did, I.
Speaker 2: Mean, he's probably running away with ALMVP. He's probably smashing
Speaker 2: a record that Aaron Judge doesn't. But here we are
Speaker 2: talking about what could have been season for Mike Trout.
Speaker 2: Sho Hao Tani was arguably as good. He was a
Speaker 2: better pitcher than he was when he won the MVP
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one. Everything else went to absolute shit.
Speaker 3: I think you're so right about them being probably the
Speaker 3: most disappointing team in baseball, not just because they have
Speaker 3: Mike Trout and sho Heo Toni on the same team,
Speaker 3: a sentence that you and I will utter for the
Speaker 3: next forty five minutes again and again and again, because
Speaker 3: those two still are the best players in baseball. Get
Speaker 3: their judge, Mookie whatever. I'm not here to debate that
Speaker 3: right now. What I am here to do is to
Speaker 3: debate whether the Angels can actually make it over the
Speaker 3: hump because the Astros finished one hundred and six and
Speaker 3: fifty six, the Mariners finished nineteen and seventy two last year,
Speaker 3: and the Angels finished seventy three and eighty nine. But
Speaker 3: in May, this Angels team was competing with the Astros
Speaker 3: and everything looked really good, and then injuries just hit
Speaker 3: this team. You mentioned Mike Trout, I mean there was
Speaker 3: injuries to the starting rotation too, you know. But what
Speaker 3: some exciting things like Redebtmers came up after kind of
Speaker 3: struggling initially but kind of showed that he can be
Speaker 3: a definite mainstay in this rotation. They made some nice
Speaker 3: additions to the bullpen, you know. They got Aaron Loup
Speaker 3: after that amazing season with the New York Mets, but
Speaker 3: he did not replicate his success in Queens when he
Speaker 3: moved over to Anaheim or Los Angeles. He had a
Speaker 3: three eight four ERA compared to like a one something
Speaker 3: ERA over there in New York. They signed Ryan Tepera,
Speaker 3: who was five for them. I thought he was decent.
Speaker 3: I mean, he had a three six twenty ARRA. It
Speaker 3: was nothing to parade over. And they traded Rossie Iglesias,
Speaker 3: which was a guy that they signed for a big deal,
Speaker 3: and then they ended up trading and for Jesse Chavez
Speaker 3: and Tucker Davidson. Tucker Davidson in front of the pod
Speaker 3: mean a few starts for the Angels and possibly could
Speaker 3: be someone that they look at in the rotation next year.
Speaker 3: But overall, just to summarize, it was incredibly disappointing because
Speaker 3: it's one thing, Jack, It's one thing for you to
Speaker 3: go in and to expect to win sixty five seventy games.
Speaker 3: It's another thing to come into the season expecting to
Speaker 3: win ninety and winning seventy three. That's almost worse because
Speaker 3: it's the expectations. It's the fall from grace, it's the
Speaker 3: it's just the disappointment. And let's get sucked back in. Ah, dude,
Speaker 3: I hate this. We're gonna get sucked back in because
Speaker 3: their roster looks great. It looks good.
Speaker 2: Let's make it great. And I will say that injuries
Speaker 2: hampered them, right, Anthony Rendon had fewer than two hundred
Speaker 2: played appearances. That's a big omission. But I have been
Speaker 2: a denier of Anthony Rendon for a little bit. The
Speaker 2: guy's gonna make thirty seven million dollars this year. And
Speaker 2: you look at the payrolls in twenty twenty three, and
Speaker 2: the Angels are already near the top. They've got about
Speaker 2: one hundred and forty five million dollars committed before arbitration
Speaker 2: and before you factor in the pre arm deals as well.
Speaker 2: So this team is gonna be flirting with the luxury
Speaker 2: tax if they do nothing in free agency. I don't
Speaker 2: know how the Angels feel about the luxury tax. I
Speaker 2: don't think they paid the luxury tax this year. There
Speaker 2: were six teams that paid the luxury tax. Anaheim was
Speaker 2: not one of them. I don't think they're afraid of it.
Speaker 2: They're an LA team. They've got Mike Trout and Sho
Speaker 2: Hail Tani. If there's one year to go over the
Speaker 2: luxury tax, this is probably the year to do it.
Speaker 2: And you have show Hey for what he's giving you
Speaker 2: on an incredibly raw deal. This guy's making less than
Speaker 2: twenty million dollars, but you've got about seventy million dollars,
Speaker 2: maybe over seventy million dollars committed to Anthony Rendon and
Speaker 2: Mike Trout. You feel good about the Trout. You don't
Speaker 2: feel that good about Rendon right now, But do you
Speaker 2: think we're having a different conversation on July fourth. Do
Speaker 2: you think we're sitting here watching the fireworks, having a
Speaker 2: libation and saying, you know what, Anthony Rendon has been
Speaker 2: kicking ass this year.
Speaker 3: I think it's just if he stays healthy. I mean,
Speaker 3: I hate to put it that plainly, but when he's
Speaker 3: on the field and healthy, he looks awesome. When he's not,
Speaker 3: he's not. It's it's it's wide or black with him,
Speaker 3: and almost seems like there's no gray area.
Speaker 2: So what I will say, And I know that he
Speaker 2: was dealing with some nagging injuries while he was playing
Speaker 2: this year, but he slugged three eighty when he was
Speaker 2: on the field, which.
Speaker 3: Is but nagging injuries, don't I don't. I don't put
Speaker 3: that on him like I don't think, Oh, Anthony Rendon
Speaker 3: now is just dropped off the face of a cliff
Speaker 3: and is going to slug four hundred next year if
Speaker 3: he is fully healthy. I expect top five, top ten
Speaker 3: at least production from the third base position. I don't
Speaker 3: see any reason why you shouldn't. I think he was
Speaker 3: hampered by injuries. I really do. But it's not even
Speaker 3: just ren Dome that we're talking about here who had
Speaker 3: a step back. How about Jared Walsh, a guy who
Speaker 3: we put in our top ten first baseman moving into
Speaker 3: the year. That same Jared Walsh that in twenty twenty
Speaker 3: one had an eight forty nine OPS with twenty nine
Speaker 3: bombs and thirty four doubles. Last year six forty three
Speaker 3: OPS with fifteen bombs in eighteen doubles. Granted, I mean
Speaker 3: he didn't have the same number of vet bats. He
Speaker 3: only played one hundred and eighteen games compared to one
Speaker 3: hundred and forty four and twenty twenty one. But he
Speaker 3: was expected to be an important left handed bat, which
Speaker 3: the Angels really need, and he bare gave them anything
Speaker 3: last year. And I dove into him trying to figure
Speaker 3: out what happened. There's not a lot of statistics that
Speaker 3: I can point to to say, Okay, if he fixes that,
Speaker 3: he'll be better. I really think it was just a
Speaker 3: down year. I mean, I remember in twenty twenty one,
Speaker 3: this dude crushed sliders, crushed fastballs. Five run value against
Speaker 3: the fastball, nine run value against the slider. Both of
Speaker 3: those were in the negative. Like, it's just an enormous
Speaker 3: drop off from production, and what can we say, like,
Speaker 3: I think he'll bounce back. You think, because you see
Speaker 3: the talent, why can't he? But I don't know. That's
Speaker 3: why there's so many things up in the air. But
Speaker 3: I look at it. You know, the preseason Angels look
Speaker 3: as good as anybody.
Speaker 2: Again, and here we are with the preseason Angels, so
Speaker 2: you assume health. And my thing about assuming health with
Speaker 2: the Angels, they they got very unhealthy, very quickly, and
Speaker 2: even at the end of year. Right you saw Mickey
Speaker 2: Moniac cry when he got hurt near the end of
Speaker 2: the year. And Mickey Moniac was, you know, the guy
Speaker 2: that came over straight up for Noah Cindergart at the
Speaker 2: deadline when Cindergaard went to Philly and Moniac he was
Speaker 2: showing flashes of not being one to one, but showing
Speaker 2: flashes of being a serviceable major league outfielder, and then
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, injuries just cut his season short
Speaker 2: and he was so frustrated. I think that was the
Speaker 2: frustration with a lot of guys with the Angels. So
Speaker 2: I'm not forecasting injuries. Let's just forecast bad luck for
Speaker 2: the Angels because they've had bad luck on the position
Speaker 2: player health front in recent years. So where's your contingency plan.
Speaker 2: Let's look at Anthony Rendon. Where's the contingency plan? It's
Speaker 2: actually great. Two minor leaguers. One guy that was previously
Speaker 2: DF eight I think came or were sent away for
Speaker 2: Giovanni Orshella. So Urshella is now the backup third baseman
Speaker 2: slash third baseman. Roster resource at Fangrafts has him as
Speaker 2: the starting shortstop. We got to fix that right now.
Speaker 2: But Urshella as a backup plan to Anthony ren Doon
Speaker 2: feels really good. And as a brackup third baseman shortstop.
Speaker 2: I like having Adele and Moniac as the fourth and
Speaker 2: fifth outfielders. When you've got Taylor Warden left, Mike trouton center,
Speaker 2: and Hunter Renfro acquired via trade in right, obviously Otani's
Speaker 2: your DH, and then you loop around the rest of
Speaker 2: the field. You've got Logan o'happy and Max Stassy as
Speaker 2: your catchers. I feel great about that tandem. And then
Speaker 2: here you are with Renhifo at second and Jared Walsh first,
Speaker 2: with David Fletcher waiting in the wings. We'll start with
Speaker 2: the hitters and then we'll get to the pitching. Here,
Speaker 2: where are the sure fire. They are in the lineup
Speaker 2: all year long if they're healthy.
Speaker 3: They have Mike Trout and Shoho Tani in the same lineup.
Speaker 3: Joe Otdi is going to be the d and that
Speaker 3: he's gonna step on the mound and be a top
Speaker 3: ten five, don't care where you rank him pitcher, one
Speaker 3: of the best pitchers in all of baseball. You'd assume
Speaker 3: that Luis ren Hifo will be the second basement, and
Speaker 3: he deserves to be the second basement. He doesn't walk.
Speaker 3: He hit a two ninety four on base percentage last year,
Speaker 3: but he slugged four twenty nine. He's a solid player.
Speaker 3: I think he's solid. He had seventeen bombs. Maybe solid
Speaker 3: is even a bit much, but he's your second basement
Speaker 3: and he should be. Taylor Ward. There is no reason
Speaker 3: why he shouldn't play left No absolutely no reason at all.
Speaker 3: Had it over an eight hundred ops twenty three bombs.
Speaker 3: He's a twenty nine year old who was a previous
Speaker 3: first rounder like this guy should be the left fielder.
Speaker 3: He earned it. If Anthony Rendon is healthy, We're gonna
Speaker 3: say this again seventy thousand fucking times on this podcast.
Speaker 3: If Anthony Rendon is healthy. He is your third baseman.
Speaker 3: Hunter Renfro the newly acquired They gave up what Jansen
Speaker 3: junk in that trade of his poguero, Adam Seminaris. I
Speaker 3: don't even know how to pronounce that name. I don't
Speaker 3: really know who that is, quite honestly with you. Jared
Speaker 3: Walsh is gonna play first base, and Logan o Hoppy
Speaker 3: is gonna play catcher, like that's your starting eight, and
Speaker 3: then it's all about who's gonna play shortstop? And Geo Orchella.
Speaker 3: I watched him play shortstop on the New York Yankees.
Speaker 3: He can at least feel the position. If the Angels
Speaker 3: want to work on pitching and starting pitching and their bullpen,
Speaker 3: and then their bench looks great. Like that's the problem
Speaker 3: with the Angels. They don't have major holes throughout their lineup,
Speaker 3: except you could say shortstop. But am I excited for
Speaker 3: Hunter Renfro and right, not really? Am I really excited
Speaker 3: for Luis Renhifo at second base? Not particularly? Am I
Speaker 3: crazy hyped? Am I expecting a huge bounce back from
Speaker 3: Jared Walsh? I don't know? And then Logan o'happy. The
Speaker 3: great thing is he is a great prospect and you
Speaker 3: have Max Stassy, So I'm confident in the catching position
Speaker 3: as a whole. But am I confident in a real
Speaker 3: first year catcher at twenty three years old, not part particularly,
Speaker 3: So there is the problem here. It's not like like
Speaker 3: there's no holes, but it's there's not a lot of
Speaker 3: stuff jumping at me. But it's good.
Speaker 2: So via trade hunter Renfro is the right fielder. I
Speaker 2: do believe he's the right fielder and he should be
Speaker 2: the position. I I say there's nothing to be done
Speaker 2: catching wise, because you've got a newly extended mac statsy
Speaker 2: and one of the best catching prospects in baseball and
Speaker 2: maybe the breakout prospect in twenty twenty two not named
Speaker 2: Danny Rodriguez is Logan o hoppy, So I do feel
Speaker 2: good about that tandem. I don't think they're going to
Speaker 2: add to that tandem at all.
Speaker 3: My thing they should They definitely shouldn't. That's yea Dassi
Speaker 3: could be good on his own, if Logana could be
Speaker 3: good on his own and pulls at Jared Kelnick like,
Speaker 3: but I mean.
Speaker 2: Using those two is a ninety game seventy game, you know,
Speaker 2: like share or one hundred and sixty in favor of Ohapi.
Speaker 2: I feel really good about that. I mean too, they
Speaker 2: need to get better at short I think that's really
Speaker 2: the only spot. Maybe sign a backup first, Baseman. I
Speaker 2: want to start there. I want to throw out some
Speaker 2: really small names that could benefit from being like behind
Speaker 2: Jared Walsh, or maybe if Otani needs a day off
Speaker 2: once in a blue moon, might I recommend a Luke
Speaker 2: Voight recently non tendered, Like that's a power bat off
Speaker 2: the bench.
Speaker 3: I love that idea, not only because I think Luke
Speaker 3: Voight is somehow becoming kind of underrated. I think he
Speaker 3: got shipped off to Washington. I don't think there was
Speaker 3: a lot of reasons too for him to be motivated.
Speaker 3: And then if you put him in a lineup here
Speaker 3: where you can platoon him Jared Walsh against righty's Voight
Speaker 3: against lefties, that feels a lot better. The only issue
Speaker 3: is show he O Tani plays d H so.
Speaker 2: You're gonna force.
Speaker 3: You're going to force Voight to play first, and then
Speaker 3: you don't have Walsh in the lineup, which could be
Speaker 3: a good thing. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, other names that could jump out, how about like
Speaker 2: a Yuli Guriel is he gonna is Are they gonna
Speaker 2: be priced out of him as a platoon first baseman.
Speaker 2: He's thirty eight years old.
Speaker 3: I'd rather have Luke Voight. I think Luke Voight makes
Speaker 3: more sense there than Yuli Gurriel does. I think Juli
Speaker 3: Gurriel is going to go somewhere where he can be
Speaker 3: the first baseman. And I don't know if Guryel, at
Speaker 3: this point in his career, at thirty eight years old,
Speaker 3: is still trying to win. I wouldn't put it past him,
Speaker 3: But I also wouldn't put it past him to just
Speaker 3: take a bag with Voight. You know, he wants to compete.
Speaker 3: I'm assuming I think he would take a little bit
Speaker 3: less in order to get put on the Angels in
Speaker 3: a good spot where they're gonna use him correctly, rather
Speaker 3: than a Yuli Guriel where it feels like Gurriya would
Speaker 3: go to whoever gives him the back.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Last one that I want to throw you Trey Mancini.
Speaker 3: Again, Hm, I just I want to see what the
Speaker 3: open market thinks of Mancini, because Mancini was good on
Speaker 3: the Orioles before going over to the Houston Astros, and
Speaker 3: then he didn't really get much of a shot. I
Speaker 3: mean he did kind of, but he never really performed
Speaker 3: with the Astros either. I'm very curious to see if
Speaker 3: the market goes back to his Orioles days rather than
Speaker 3: thinking of him as a platoon because he still is
Speaker 3: a good player, and I think a team is going
Speaker 3: to want to sign him to be their full time
Speaker 3: starter rather than being a platoon guy. Also, Mancini could
Speaker 3: play the outfield a little bit. Angels kind of backed
Speaker 3: up on outfielders at the moment, so I like Void.
Speaker 3: I think the first name that you brought up is
Speaker 3: the best one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Void is undoubtedly the cheapest option. And you're right,
Speaker 2: they are backed up out field wise because they do
Speaker 2: have Adele and Moniac as the fourth and fifth outfielder.
Speaker 2: One of them is going to be in Salt Lake,
Speaker 2: which is kind of brutal.
Speaker 3: Who would you put in Salt Lake?
Speaker 2: I guess Adele.
Speaker 3: I guess Adele, but I feel like it should be
Speaker 3: Montiac that I agree with you. I guess it's Adele.
Speaker 3: I know, Alwa, he's so talented. Oak went first overall.
Speaker 2: Okay, now the big question are they in play for
Speaker 2: a top four shortstop?
Speaker 3: Not with the needs that they have at other places.
Speaker 3: You just said to yourself, they're on the brinks of
Speaker 3: the luxury tax. I mean, if they want to pay,
Speaker 3: they want to have a two hundred and fifty two
Speaker 3: hundred and seventy million dollar payroll. Sure, I just there's
Speaker 3: no indications that that's the case. I mean, we have
Speaker 3: the pucketbook. We're playing general manager with the Los Angeles Angels,
Speaker 3: and they're there's a shortstop that I want to throw
Speaker 3: at you. Who I think would be relatively cheap. It's
Speaker 3: a reunion. I don't or I don't know if we're
Speaker 3: thinking about the same guy not anymore. Jose Glacias. Okay,
Speaker 3: so I would I would sign Jose Glacias.
Speaker 2: Okay, so I would sign Elvis Andrews.
Speaker 3: Okay, we're on the same That was the second name
Speaker 3: that I was going to bring up. The reason why
Speaker 3: I like kind of the Jose Glacias reunion there is
Speaker 3: I still think that he's a good defensive player, while
Speaker 3: Andrews like, I don't know if they need his bat
Speaker 3: as much. I mean, they still could use his bat.
Speaker 3: I like either or hmmm, I think.
Speaker 2: Remember you got Fletcher on the bench too.
Speaker 3: I mean, who cares who cares.
Speaker 2: But like he can also play a little short and
Speaker 2: give an old guy some breaks. And that's why I
Speaker 2: feel okay with Andrews.
Speaker 3: He can't play short stop. David Fletcher played shortstop no
Speaker 3: way this year? I know, but no way, Like that
Speaker 3: can't be. I'm not saying he can't. I'm just saying
Speaker 3: he can't. Like, no way, David Fletcher is going to
Speaker 3: be taking reps at short for the Angels. They can't
Speaker 3: do that. I'd rather put her Shalla there. You can't hint.
Speaker 2: David Fletcher finished seventeenth in al MVP voting in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2: That's awesome.
Speaker 3: Congrats, That is awesome, and that's why he has a
Speaker 3: cult following. And probably Angels fans are like, stop disrespecting
Speaker 3: David Fletcher. And I'm just like, sorry, do you want
Speaker 3: to win or do you want like, do you want
Speaker 3: a clown show?
Speaker 2: Listen, arm and I disrespected Nick Madrigal yesterday, so we're
Speaker 2: disrespecting David Fletcher today. That's just how that works.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but we don't have a short bias. We think
Speaker 3: Ozel too is Hall of Famer. Yeah, and we like
Speaker 3: the short pictures, so Droman.
Speaker 2: Lighter all right, Andrews, Andrews or Iglesias.
Speaker 3: Who's going to be cheaper, because I don't see much
Speaker 3: of a difference there. I want to sign whoever is
Speaker 3: cheaper because I want to add big names to the
Speaker 3: starting rotation. And I want a bunch of bullpen guys because.
Speaker 2: I Glasias is two years younger.
Speaker 3: All right, Let's sign Andrews to a one year deal.
Speaker 3: You think you take a one year because I think
Speaker 3: Aglacy is going to be two or three.
Speaker 2: I think Andrews takes a one year deal.
Speaker 3: Let's sign Andrews then, because I want to spend Yeah,
Speaker 3: I want to spend as least money as possible on
Speaker 3: the shortstop position because they Orchella can play shortstop, so
Speaker 3: if you're gonna kind of use both of them at
Speaker 3: the same time. I kind of wish Elvis Andrews hit
Speaker 3: left handed, but whatever, like a short stop platoon. I
Speaker 3: think that's hilarious. But like with this day and age
Speaker 3: in baseball. Also, one more thing about Jared Walste while
Speaker 3: I'm on the subject of left you righty. I think
Speaker 3: the shift is going to be big for him getting
Speaker 3: rid of it because he was crushed by the shift
Speaker 3: last year and he's always been crushed by the shift.
Speaker 3: He's a guy who, you know, he's not necessarily pull happy,
Speaker 3: but I've noticed that, Like one of the things I noticed,
Speaker 3: like when he's pull happy, I mean, he crushes balls,
Speaker 3: but when he's trying to, you know, shoot the ball
Speaker 3: the other way, if he's trying to hit the ball
Speaker 3: to the center field, much like, it looks prettier, but
Speaker 3: it's not resulting in success. He's kind of just a
Speaker 3: pull happy guy. And if you if you disavow the shift,
Speaker 3: that I think will at least tick up his production
Speaker 3: a little bit. So that's just on the Jared Walsh front,
Speaker 3: but still just a couple more seconds on the shortstop front.
Speaker 3: Give me Andrews because they still have zach netto like,
Speaker 3: when is he coming up? Is he going to be
Speaker 3: a factor this year at all? No? No, no.
Speaker 2: If if everything goes according to plan, maybe at the
Speaker 2: very end of the year. But you got to get
Speaker 2: to the very end.
Speaker 3: Of the year, and that's if everything goes well. So
Speaker 3: we're just going to assume he's not the bank on it.
Speaker 2: So I do like Andrews on a one year deal
Speaker 2: for that reason, and if it goes really well, sign
Speaker 2: him to another one year deal and have Neto takeover
Speaker 2: midway through if Andrews isn't cunning.
Speaker 3: It Like, we kind of got roast for the Gene
Speaker 3: Cigar reunion thing because I guess there was a fight,
Speaker 3: which I do kind of remember, but I didn't know
Speaker 3: that there was like some disacreemance between management. I didn't
Speaker 3: know he called people out, So that was my fault.
Speaker 3: I remembered the fight, didn't think it was that big
Speaker 3: of a deal. And then with Jose Glaci, it's like
Speaker 3: sometimes a reunion doesn't happen, so that could be somewhere
Speaker 3: where it's like, yeah, he ain't coming back, so yeah,
Speaker 3: give me Andrews. That makes sense. He's been on the
Speaker 3: West Coast. He played in Oakland. Yeah, I like, I
Speaker 3: like Andrews.
Speaker 2: Yeah, give me Elvis Andrews Revenge series in Oakland Electric
Speaker 2: all right, like.
Speaker 3: A Wednesday at one.
Speaker 2: Easy and there's there's four hundred people there, all right.
Speaker 2: So the additions that we made offensively are Luke Voight
Speaker 2: as a bench slash platoon first baseman and Elvis Andrews
Speaker 2: on a one year deal. I feel decent about that
Speaker 2: that lineup.
Speaker 3: We're kind on a roll.
Speaker 2: We're kind of on a roll here, and we're not
Speaker 2: being too crazy. We're talking about a guy that was
Speaker 2: non tendered and a guy that was released last year,
Speaker 2: so I feel like we're being fair. Here's how the
Speaker 2: starting rotation shakes out right now, sho hal Tani's the one.
Speaker 2: Tyler Anderson. They just signed thirty three year old at
Speaker 2: time of opening day, Tyler Anderson three years, thirty nine
Speaker 2: million dollars. I like it deal it is. You know,
Speaker 2: he wasn't the best lefty on the market. Rodin was.
Speaker 2: After that, things get a little shaky on the free
Speaker 2: agent market, and Anderson was a great lefty to grab.
Speaker 2: But Patrick Sandoval is also left handed. Jose Suarez is
Speaker 2: also left handed. Reed Detmers is also left handed. I
Speaker 2: want another right handed starting pitcher. Oh, by the way,
Speaker 2: Tucker Davidson is left handed as well, and he's the
Speaker 2: six as it stands right now. I want a right
Speaker 2: handed pitcher that can be the two or the three. Oh,
Speaker 2: Tani's the one. I don't feel great about the Angels
Speaker 2: contending for the Al West. If Tyler Anderson is the two,
Speaker 2: I would like if Anderson was the three. So can
Speaker 2: we go after a righty two.
Speaker 3: Can I also say that I think Anderson's the four.
Speaker 3: I don't know how good all he's going to be
Speaker 3: with the Angels. I like Sandoval, I do. I think
Speaker 3: Sandoval will be a better pitcher than Tyler Anderson will
Speaker 3: next year.
Speaker 2: I like Debt Meres too. I'm not saying I like
Speaker 2: Detmers more than I like Tyler Anderson, but Debtmers and
Speaker 2: figuring out the slider at the end of the year.
Speaker 2: I do think that they have four legitimately good starters here.
Speaker 2: And Jose Suarez is a guy that you know can
Speaker 2: be factored out, can be a multi inning reliever. So
Speaker 2: let's go after a relatively big name in the right
Speaker 2: handed starting pitching department.
Speaker 3: You in, you know who I want on the Angels,
Speaker 3: Jacob de Gram Jesus can't do that? Why not? Why not?
Speaker 3: He's already We're not spending anything else. Shut up, seriously, though,
Speaker 3: the angel are competing right now, right now, how much
Speaker 3: longer are you gonna have Otani? You're gonna waste all
Speaker 3: of trout If you are going to spend money, why not,
Speaker 3: Jacob motherfucking d Grom. And the great thing about the
Speaker 3: Angels is they have starting pitching depth. If dea Gram
Speaker 3: has an injury here or there, they're not gonna fall
Speaker 3: flat on their faces unless Trout and then Otani and
Speaker 3: Walsh and Rento and they all get injured. That it's
Speaker 3: all for nothing anyway. But this feels like a move
Speaker 3: that could come out of nowhere. Right the Angels say
Speaker 3: we're gonna offer you a four year deal worth one
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty million dollars or something like that, maybe
Speaker 3: four years, two hundred. They put all their eggs in
Speaker 3: the Jacob de Gram basket. Kind of seems like an
Speaker 3: Angel's deal anyway. And you put to Gram next to
Speaker 3: Otani and then you have Sandaval. That's the righty. I mean,
Speaker 3: we could go on some their names and make this
Speaker 3: team very solid, or we can open up the check
Speaker 3: book and say let's win now, let's win now. Are
Speaker 3: we gonna beat the Ashros? I don't know, but de
Speaker 3: Gram gives us a really good shot if everyone stays healthy. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's easy for me to tell you that the Angels
Speaker 3: will be good with Jacob Gram. Every team would be
Speaker 3: good with Jacob de Gram. But if we're not spending
Speaker 3: on any of the shortstops, we're not buying anything else.
Speaker 3: We're gonna buy some low relievers, and the Angels have
Speaker 3: a big payroll. Anyway, some guys are off the books.
Speaker 3: Justin Nepton is gone, a lot of other guy's gone.
Speaker 3: Why not go get Jacob de Gram?
Speaker 2: Yeah, So my only pushback is durability. I have no
Speaker 2: idea how durable de Gram is. Obviously when he's when
Speaker 2: he's on the mound, he's the best pitcher on the planet.
Speaker 2: But in an organization where fragility was king, and fragility
Speaker 2: has been king for a long time, guys have not
Speaker 2: been reliably on the field. Might I point you to
Speaker 2: a guy that has been reliably on the field for
Speaker 2: the entirety of his near two decade career. Except for
Speaker 2: Tommy John, I think Justin Verlander is a little bit
Speaker 2: better of a fit.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean I'll go, I'll take
Speaker 3: Orlander like that.
Speaker 2: Sure, I think you're guaranteed one hundred and seventy one
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty innings from Verlander, and you're not guaranteed
Speaker 2: that from de Gram at any point in his career.
Speaker 2: I don't believe the human body can sustain one hundred
Speaker 2: and three mile an hour darts one hundred times a game.
Speaker 3: That's how crazy Verlinder is. He's forty.
Speaker 2: We're like, yeah, forty, three years, one hundred and fifty.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean, yes, sure, I have nothing wrong
Speaker 3: with that. Of course, it's exactly what I want. It's
Speaker 3: the same conversation time Ace the Mega.
Speaker 2: Right, Like, if Otani's the two, I'm putting like, I
Speaker 2: don't I'm not allowed to bet on baseball. I will
Speaker 2: go under any avenue possible to bet on the Angels
Speaker 2: to win the World Series. Off Shoeotani's the two.
Speaker 3: We're gonna do it again. We're gonna bet on their overtime.
Speaker 3: Quite how much money I've lost in this overwind total
Speaker 3: it's been like four years running.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I get it.
Speaker 3: Now here's running, Jack, I'm not having a good time.
Speaker 3: I get it.
Speaker 2: It's an identical conversation to gram Orlander. We just had
Speaker 2: the conversation real quick. If they don't get either of
Speaker 2: those two guys, who are the other pitchers on the
Speaker 2: market that jump out to you? And the reason that
Speaker 2: we're not pitching trades right now is I think because
Speaker 2: they just don't have any capital to trade from. They're
Speaker 2: gonna hold on in that though they're obviously holding on
Speaker 2: to a HOPI there's not much else on the farm
Speaker 2: right now. We talked about the outfield surplus. You could
Speaker 2: flip a Dell for somebody, but what Dell gonna get you.
Speaker 2: I think there are better options on a free agent
Speaker 2: market right now if they don't go and get de
Speaker 2: Gram or Verlander. I'm not the biggest fan of Chris Bascid.
Speaker 2: I really don't think that he's due for immense success
Speaker 2: right now. My eyes gravitate towards Nate Yvaldi. My eyes
Speaker 2: also gravitate towards Jamison tai On. I would feel a
Speaker 2: little bit better with Yvaldi, but I think both those
Speaker 2: guys could be solid options as threes.
Speaker 3: The name that I was going to bring up, you
Speaker 3: haven't mentioned him yet, and I'm actually surprised you didn't.
Speaker 3: West Coast they already have Otani. What about CODEI senga.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that also works that.
Speaker 3: I mean that that picture right there makes a lot
Speaker 3: of sense to me. It's been really good over there
Speaker 3: in Japan, just dominant. He's up to a hundred. He's
Speaker 3: got that split, a vintage splitter, but he's got like
Speaker 3: three other pitches. I mean it's it's hard to get
Speaker 3: a lot of you know, video on this guy. But
Speaker 3: the video I've seen, like he looks like the real deal.
Speaker 3: I just don't think he's going to come over and
Speaker 3: be an ace. And I don't even know if he's
Speaker 3: gonna come over and be it two. So that's why, like,
Speaker 3: I like him a lot. I think he makes a
Speaker 3: lot of sense on this team. But it's just are
Speaker 3: we trying to put them over the top. Like, if
Speaker 3: we're trying to put them over the top, it's probably
Speaker 3: either Verlin or de Grom. Because I agree with you
Speaker 3: like Bassett is good, I don't think like Bassett is
Speaker 3: the piece here. You know, you got Michael Waka, who
Speaker 3: you could do on a short term deal again, You
Speaker 3: got EVOLDI, you got guys like Ross Stripling, you got
Speaker 3: Taiwan Walker. If you want ty On, I mean it
Speaker 3: gets a little thin after that. So for me, the
Speaker 3: two pitchers that I wanted to bring to the table
Speaker 3: for you today was Jacob de Gram and Code I send.
Speaker 3: But I love the Verlinder take. I just want a dog.
Speaker 3: I don't want Waka. Even the Waka could be fine,
Speaker 3: Stripling could be fine. I want a snarling dog on
Speaker 3: the Angels A one a dominant figure.
Speaker 2: Have you seen any like contract prediction that makes sense
Speaker 2: for Senga? I've seen the very beginning of free agency.
Speaker 2: I saw seven for one fifty five, which is what
Speaker 2: Tanaka did, and then I saw things like four for sixty,
Speaker 2: and those are two totally different numbers and years. I
Speaker 2: don't know like and and I'm not even gonna try
Speaker 2: and guess, because I'm not gonna pretend that I've watched
Speaker 2: a whole year of Code I Senga. I've watched the
Speaker 2: highlights that are available on YouTube. I've read write ups
Speaker 2: of Code Singa, and that's about it. I have no
Speaker 2: idea how to value his market. Is it a Seyasuzuki market?
Speaker 2: Are we gonna see five years ninety? I think five
Speaker 2: years ninety makes a lot of sense. But seven for
Speaker 2: one fifty five for a guy that you have no
Speaker 2: idea how he's gonna perform, I don't think it makes
Speaker 2: much sense. So that's the that's the frustrating thing. It's
Speaker 2: my favorite thing about international free agency. It's my favorite
Speaker 2: thing about the NBA Draft and grabbing a Porzingis or
Speaker 2: grabbing a Luka Dancic what the fuck are you gonna get?
Speaker 2: I have no idea. That's fun with code is Sanga
Speaker 2: because you could get Tanaki, you could get Darvish. You
Speaker 2: could also get Kohey Arija. I've got no idea. It
Speaker 2: sounds more like Tanaka and Darvish than ari Hara. But
Speaker 2: you just have no idea.
Speaker 3: So have no idea.
Speaker 2: That's the worry for me when we've been on this
Speaker 2: team like they're gonna be great and then they fucking
Speaker 2: suck every year. So I want somebody that I'm gonna
Speaker 2: put If I'm Perrymanassio, I'm putting my head on the
Speaker 2: pillow saying I've got Jacob fucking.
Speaker 3: De Gram on this team.
Speaker 2: I've got Jason Erlander on this team. So I feel
Speaker 2: a lot better about somebody that has, you know, a
Speaker 2: seven to shit if you're signing Verlander, like eighteen year
Speaker 2: major league career under.
Speaker 3: Their belt, exactly, I think with kode I Sanga, think
Speaker 3: about it. Kevin Gosman, Robbie Ray, these guys were five
Speaker 3: years one ten, five years one hundred, Like, are you
Speaker 3: giving quote I Sanga more than that? I'm not. Robbie
Speaker 3: Ray won the cy young. Kevin Gosman looked amazing with
Speaker 3: San Francisco and then looked amazing again with Toronto. Are
Speaker 3: you giving code I sing a more than that? No,
Speaker 3: you can't. You can't.
Speaker 2: But like one two with nasty offspeed.
Speaker 3: You know he's gonna come over like Tanaka. Do you
Speaker 3: remember Tanaka? I feel like I heard reports that he
Speaker 3: was ninety eight and then he comes over he's ninety one. Like,
Speaker 3: I don't know if these guys are one hundred and two.
Speaker 3: I bet Senga is gonna be ninety four to ninety
Speaker 3: six teams.
Speaker 2: So the rumor around NBA teams was they were and
Speaker 2: like we saw it with the utah Jas, like trying
Speaker 2: to just sell every piece in order to create the
Speaker 2: best odds in the twenty twenty three draft, because that's
Speaker 2: when wehen Banyama is coming over. Teams were were looking
Speaker 2: at the twenty twenty three draft like four years ago,
Speaker 2: like Hey, there's this kid, Victor Wembanyama who's gonna be insane.
Speaker 2: I feel like that's what teams are gonna do, Like
Speaker 2: they're going to clear the payroll for Roki Sasaki in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven or twenty twenty eight.
Speaker 3: That's the dude, that's the dude.
Speaker 2: It's like it's Caleb Williams. Like, do the Colts want
Speaker 2: to suck this year to get Bryce Young or do
Speaker 2: they want to really suck next year to get Caleb Williams.
Speaker 2: I think the answer is the latter. So I'm not saying, like, hey,
Speaker 2: let's plan for twenty twenty seven.
Speaker 3: But is it that far? I thought it was like
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five ish.
Speaker 2: Don't think he's gonna get posted until like maybe twenty
Speaker 2: twenty five.
Speaker 3: I have known, but it's in a while. It's a while.
Speaker 3: It's not something to worry about on December first of
Speaker 3: twenty two. Need to Yeah, ship, you're right, so here
Speaker 3: here we go. Yeah, here we go. I think we
Speaker 3: signed Verlander because I want to add to this bullpen.
Speaker 3: And if we signed to Gram we have no money left.
Speaker 2: But right?
Speaker 3: Or do we just sign to Grom because it's Grom
Speaker 3: but money left too? Have you seen the Grom pitch? Yeah?
Speaker 2: He's really good, pretty good.
Speaker 3: He'd be good on the Angels. Do you think this
Speaker 3: is so hard?
Speaker 2: Okay, they don't need any more starting pitching. I don't
Speaker 2: want to. I don't want to, don't want anybody. What
Speaker 2: what did we just signed Verlander two three for one
Speaker 2: thirty five.
Speaker 3: Oh oh that hurts?
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, what did Schureser got three for one thirty yeah?
Speaker 3: One two or something?
Speaker 2: Yeah? So like Verlander, he's gonna pull the Lindor shit,
Speaker 2: Like I need one more million dollars than Sureser because
Speaker 2: I just won the fucking Scion.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he deserves it.
Speaker 2: All right, So we just gave Verlander that we're done
Speaker 2: in the starting rotation.
Speaker 3: Let's find bullpen pieces.
Speaker 2: And like, you can't go sign a closer now because
Speaker 2: you just signed Justin Verlander, even though they might.
Speaker 3: Need a closer.
Speaker 2: Who's their closer slotted in right now? Jimmy Hrget. That sucks, loop, Like,
Speaker 2: I love Jimmy Hrget, but he can't It was fine,
Speaker 2: but he can't be the closer. Yeah, but what does
Speaker 2: closer even mean anymore major League Baseball? The closer means
Speaker 2: you got huge nuts, and I'm not sure Jimmy Hurgant
Speaker 2: is huge nuts.
Speaker 3: Have you seen Jimmy Hurget's nuts?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well no, I've seen his slaughter. I haven't seen
Speaker 2: his nuts. I gotta see his nuts. That's the thing,
Speaker 2: Jimmy Hrget, If you want to shoot me, at Twitter.
Speaker 2: DM don't post that because it'll like pick up and
Speaker 2: go viral. But if you do want to send me
Speaker 2: like a nut gauge, I'll decide if you're a closer
Speaker 2: or not.
Speaker 3: All right now that we're done with his nuts, they
Speaker 3: have lefties, they have loop, and they have Kihata, so
Speaker 3: it's not like, oh, we absolutely need add a lefty
Speaker 3: like we had to with the Mariners, so we can
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Speaker 3: dog Leo. If you're listening to this, love you. What
Speaker 3: about David Robertson, Yeah, is he going to be that expensive?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: Thirty eight. So we're bringing in two just old bags
Speaker 3: to pitch. But like I kind of like both of them,
Speaker 3: Like David Robertson can still be a guy. He had
Speaker 3: a two four zero e er last year. You probably
Speaker 3: didn't know that. You probably didn't know he also had
Speaker 3: twenty saves. He also probably didn't know they had eight
Speaker 3: blund saves. But you know that's gonna happen. A lot
Speaker 3: of the peripherals don't love him, but they've never loved him,
Speaker 3: and the you know, if you look at stuff plus
Speaker 3: by mister Enosaris, I don't think he's gonna love David
Speaker 3: Robertson either. But David Robertson gets out and he's still
Speaker 3: getting outs, and he has that closer experience, and he
Speaker 3: was just in the playoffs. I think signing David roberts
Speaker 3: into a one year deal makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 2: Here.
Speaker 4: Let's sign two or three MM two or three two
Speaker 4: signed two, and I want Tommy Kinley on the Angels.
Speaker 2: Okay, So Cainlee was a name that I was thinking about.
Speaker 2: The Other name that I was thinking about was Chad Green.
Speaker 3: No, Yankees are resigning Jad Green? No, yeah, we could.
Speaker 3: We can put them on the Angels, I mean yeah.
Speaker 3: Or Michael Fulmer.
Speaker 2: Loom Fulmer might be a bit expensive because you're buying
Speaker 2: high on Fulmer. He just had a good year.
Speaker 3: Pretty good year three three nine y r N sixty
Speaker 3: three innings year.
Speaker 2: But Chad Green like didn't have a year, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean? And Kainlee didn't really have a year.
Speaker 2: So you've got a chance to buy low if you
Speaker 2: broke the bank on Verlander.
Speaker 3: I kind of think Kailee's going to be cheaper than Green.
Speaker 2: Yeah, probably, but I don't think Chad Green is going
Speaker 2: to be that expensive. So I how about two of
Speaker 2: the three Robertson, Green Kainley.
Speaker 3: You have to sign Robertson. That has to be a
Speaker 3: guy that you signed, so that has to be one
Speaker 3: of them. And I think we flip a coin between
Speaker 3: Kaylee and Green. I would sign with Kainlee because I
Speaker 3: think he's going to be slightly cheaper and the upside
Speaker 3: is better with him. I think what you gave.
Speaker 2: Me Andrews and Verlander, I'm in.
Speaker 3: On Kainley Kainlee. Okay, all right? How much is Cainlee
Speaker 3: worth five bucks.
Speaker 2: One year.
Speaker 3: Or three million? Okay? Three and a half?
Speaker 2: Three point five three?
Speaker 3: What is Robertson worth one year? Nine twenty.
Speaker 2: I'm kidding, I'm kidding, like six seven.
Speaker 3: Seven and a half.
Speaker 2: God, that's a lot of more like this number adds
Speaker 2: up quickly in the Angels. I know tax, So okay,
Speaker 2: don't Oh fuck, Anthony Rendell.
Speaker 3: Let's go over I know Rendo. God damn it. Let's
Speaker 3: go over the Let's go over what we just spent.
Speaker 3: So the Angel's payroll is at one hundred and forty
Speaker 3: six million dollars.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay.
Speaker 3: The luxury tax Tier one of the luxury tax is
Speaker 3: two hundred and thirty million dollars this year. This is
Speaker 3: also year, Yeah, this past year. What did it move?
Speaker 2: No, I'm not sure. I think it's isn't it the average?
Speaker 2: It's some confidence.
Speaker 3: People can get mad at us on Twitter. Sorry, I
Speaker 3: think it's two thirty. That's the parameters that we're going.
Speaker 2: We'll call it two thirty one five plus forty five
Speaker 2: for Verlin.
Speaker 3: Forty five a year. Oh my, oh yeah, you're right,
Speaker 3: because that's what three years divided by one thirty five is.
Speaker 3: That is insane.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy, but we're doing it. We're Andrews is making.
Speaker 3: Six ten, eight eight nine.
Speaker 2: All right, that's two hundred yeah, two hundred plus two
Speaker 2: point five for Luke Voight.
Speaker 3: Three.
Speaker 2: You just got no tender dude.
Speaker 3: Led the league a hole runs in that short season.
Speaker 3: The same season David Fletcher was the MVP.
Speaker 2: Three two oh three.
Speaker 3: Now Robertson, Robertson is.
Speaker 2: Six.
Speaker 3: You said seven and a half seven? All right?
Speaker 2: Shit, alright? Ten plus four for Canley. That's three fifteen
Speaker 2: plus all the arbitration. They'll pay the luxury tax like
Speaker 2: they're gonna be over two thirty. It's two fourteen before arbitration.
Speaker 2: But do you care? This is your last chance with
Speaker 2: Sho hail Tani because he's a free agent after this year.
Speaker 3: If you are the Angels, do you think that paying
Speaker 3: the luxury tax this year is worth it?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Me too, I mean no, like honestly no, because they're
Speaker 3: not competing with the Astros, and let we know what's
Speaker 3: gonna happen with them.
Speaker 2: All you gotta do is get in. Look at the Phillies.
Speaker 3: I know that's all you gotta do is get in.
Speaker 3: But at the same time, have you seen the Al East.
Speaker 3: A lot of teams are still pretty good over there.
Speaker 3: The Orioles are only turning up. The Blue Che's are
Speaker 3: still gonna be good, Yankees are still gonna be good,
Speaker 3: Raids are still gonna be good. Guardians are still gonna
Speaker 3: be good. White Sox are gonna suck, So that's good. Right,
Speaker 3: Wake up, this is the toughest one. This is going
Speaker 3: to be the hardest, most painful episode we record until
Speaker 3: we do top ten. Second basemen and people send us
Speaker 3: death threats about the fourth versus the fifth second.
Speaker 2: Basis fine, that's fine. I'm better with death threats than
Speaker 2: I am trying to stay under the luxury tax.
Speaker 3: That's a good quote. That'll be all the quote cards though.
Speaker 3: Probably that's fine.
Speaker 2: I yeah, it's worth going over that two thirty mark.
Speaker 2: It is because you're gonna spend the next couple decades
Speaker 2: saying what if? But exactly, this whole era of Angels
Speaker 2: baseball has been what if.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm dealing with.
Speaker 2: Oh, Tani's gonna say four one hundred, now three fifty,
Speaker 2: like three.
Speaker 3: Hundred and fifty million dollars a year, but then going
Speaker 3: to command eighty.
Speaker 2: Because you did this with fucking Anthony Rendon. You can't
Speaker 2: pay Otani that.
Speaker 3: How's that working? Bro?
Speaker 2: If I was an Angels fan, I would hate Anthony Rendel,
Speaker 2: but he could be so good, he could be great.
Speaker 2: I know you're so hamstrung financially because of that, dude.
Speaker 3: I know it's thirty seven million dollars. He's out thirty
Speaker 3: seven million because everybody that we just signed is on
Speaker 3: a one year deal except for Lander. Yes, we have
Speaker 3: to sign Lander.
Speaker 2: Yeah, do it, do it. I'm I'm in. I'm fully
Speaker 2: in on this, I'm fully in on paying the luxury tax.
Speaker 3: Okay. So this is now their lineup with all of
Speaker 3: the deals that we signed. Renhifo's at second trouts and center,
Speaker 3: Otani's at DH wards and left, Rendome's at third. Renfrozen right.
Speaker 3: We have a Walsh Voight platoon which is kind of fire.
Speaker 3: We have Geo Orchella, Elvis Andrews at short, and then
Speaker 3: we have a Logan Hoppy Max Dassy catcher thing.
Speaker 2: With Adele on the bench.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Ren frozen right, Okay, Otani and Verlin are at
Speaker 3: the top of the rotation. Awesome. Then you have Sandoval
Speaker 3: Anderson Detmers. That's awesome. That is awesome. Then in the bullpen,
Speaker 3: you got her Hurget's nuts, you got Tapera, you got Loop,
Speaker 3: you got Kinley, you got David Robertson, you have Bria,
Speaker 3: you have Kihata, and then you have some other guys.
Speaker 3: But then it's like no, That's what I was about
Speaker 3: to say, is like swingman, if anybody gets hurt, you
Speaker 3: have Suarez and and Davidson. That's a good team. It's
Speaker 3: a good ass team. And sil Seth that's probably is
Speaker 3: that better than the Mariners on paper?
Speaker 2: But it's always on page.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but it doesn't matter. The Mariner's just gonna win
Speaker 3: more games, damn it. Yeah, I think we did well.
Speaker 2: I got to figure out a way to weather this storm.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna make it through the twenty twenty three
Speaker 2: season with the Angels, me neither.
Speaker 3: But we got through it.
Speaker 2: Dude, If Elvis Andrews signs with the La Angels, I'm
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