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Speaker 2: get some more NBA talk with Givoni. Next segment, we've

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Speaker 2: was asking about next hour, we'll have Vince will Fork,

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Speaker 2: gone with Jason Kelcey and Kingsford. I just watched their

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Speaker 2: we should make Let's start with some NFL this hour.

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Speaker 2: We talked obviously last hour a lot about the NBA

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Speaker 2: draft and about the Nick's trade for McHale bridges from

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Speaker 2: the nets. We'll get more into that again with Devoni.

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Speaker 2: Next segment kind of went under the radar a little bit,

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Speaker 2: maybe by design, but both the Jaguars and the Panthers

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Speaker 2: are getting hundreds of millions of dollars from their respective

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Speaker 2: municipalities city of Jacksonville slash Duval County, Charlotte, and I

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Speaker 2: think it was six hundred I saw one report six

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Speaker 2: hundred fifty million, another eight hundred million for the Panthers.

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Speaker 2: The Jaguars it's one point four billion. But they're putting

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Speaker 2: some of that money up. I guess I just want

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Speaker 2: you this, Fertsie, what's your immediate reaction when I tell

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Speaker 3: I was very surprised because even though Trevor Lawrence has

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Speaker 3: I just those two teams right now, especially Carolina, I'm

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Speaker 3: that's not good and may not be good for a while.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so the word you used is surprise that then

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Speaker 3: I think the average taxpayer? But I guess obviously they

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Speaker 2: Well, that's interesting, by the way, because they did not

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Speaker 2: and the ten councilmen, council woman, they vote for it.

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Speaker 2: It was seven to three in Charlotte. I think only

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the Jacksonville City console vote at fourteen to one

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Speaker 4: a one point four billion dollar renovation of Everbanks Stadium.

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Speaker 4: It's they're gonna split it six hundred and plus million

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Speaker 4: reaction would be, like, what's wrong with the stadium?

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Speaker 2: As is?

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Speaker 4: You go to the football stadium, you park, you go in,

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Speaker 4: times a year. I know you got to keep up

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Speaker 4: other option is tearing it down ability another a new one,

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Speaker 4: don't see that I don't know if the fans are

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Speaker 2: So your reaction is one of like confusion almost.

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Speaker 4: Im just like, I'm fine with how the stadium is

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but don't you think if you're so. That's what's

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Speaker 2: interesting to me about this. If you're one of the

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Speaker 2: it's it's kind of a dump, right. You probably think

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Speaker 2: it's been thirty some years now. I mean both these

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Speaker 2: So you probably think it's been thirty years. It would

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Speaker 2: this or that. To me, it's not about the fans.

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Speaker 2: It's about the people that aren't fans that have to

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Speaker 2: pay for it, right, Like the fans. If you think

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Speaker 2: same rate. Right. So the fans actually go to the game,

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Speaker 2: they're winning out on it because they actually derive the

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Speaker 5: Well, like that's sort of that's sort of the tech

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Speaker 5: that you pay for being part of society, right, Like children, say,

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Speaker 5: people who have no kids, their tax money still goes

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Speaker 5: to public education because it's for the greater good. Right, So,

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Speaker 5: when you live in you don't take advantage necessarily of

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Speaker 5: all of the things that your immediate area offers. However,

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Speaker 5: when it's done for the good of the greater community,

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Speaker 5: it's something that we all share in, right. Yes, So

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Speaker 5: if I say I take public transportation every day, but

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Speaker 5: my taxes still go towards making sure the roads are

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 5: I get that an NFL team is different than that,

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Speaker 2: Marve, what was your reaction. I'm definitely surprised. Now. Can

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Speaker 2: I ask a question about stadiums in general? Sure?

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Speaker 6: Are we more likely now like back in the day

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Speaker 6: those stadiums used to be open for forty to fifty years.

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Speaker 6: Is it because they don't want to build a new

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Speaker 6: keep it as is for the next forty years and

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Speaker 6: make it like lambeau Field or something like that.

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Speaker 2: It seems like thirty years is like the shelf life

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Speaker 2: now and then you either get a new one or

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Speaker 2: you renovate. Like these these two teams are seating.

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Speaker 5: I think to Paul's point, if the I mean I

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Speaker 5: they've done over how was that saying fifty years old?

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Speaker 5: Maybe I don't even know. At least it's got to

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Speaker 5: be at least fifty years old, right, But the team

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Speaker 5: is good. Yeah, I don't hear anybody saying, man, you

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Speaker 5: know what, Sure, it would be nice if the stadium

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Speaker 2: Though.

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Speaker 5: They're just counting rings and they're like, holy crap, we

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Speaker 5: have this awesome team. We have Patrick Mahomes, we have

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Speaker 5: Travis Kelty, we have all of these guys. We're absolutely

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Speaker 5: killing it. But stadium kind of stinks, I do, you

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Speaker 5: know what I mean? So, like there's the Carolina Panthers.

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Speaker 5: To me is almost like not that it's a band aid,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with a seat and saying look, at this,

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Speaker 4: not this. Look at our jumbo tron and look at

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Speaker 4: to a football game is there access to tailgating at

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Speaker 4: a certain amount of time before the game, and if

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Speaker 4: the team's good in the atmosphere is great for the fans.

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Speaker 4: You know, I've been to a Chiefs game and it's awesome,

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Speaker 4: and I don't really remember the stadium. I really don't

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Speaker 4: I was like, this place is awesome, and it didn't

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but even like they got to have great Wi Fi.

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Speaker 2: Like that's that's thirty years ago. That was seriously thirty

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Speaker 2: years ago, that was not a thing. Okay, now something

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Speaker 2: like that would be very important to people. You've been

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Speaker 2: to Cowboys Stadium before, right, Yeah? We the whole group

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Speaker 2: was the day Nats went to Cowboys Stadium. It was

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Speaker 2: probably eleven years ago. It was for a college football game.

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Speaker 4: I think like Alabama, Michigan or something, and I was like, Oh,

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Speaker 4: this place would be unbelievable. I heard it's like this unbelievable.

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Speaker 4: The jumbo tron is way too big. It's totally distracting

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Speaker 4: from the game. They made it way too big, especially

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Speaker 4: if you're sitting up high. It's totally distracting from the

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Speaker 4: live event on the field. And then they have these

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Speaker 4: recessed lower level suites that are behind the players. You

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Speaker 4: could see nothing of the football game. I'm sure they

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Speaker 4: look cool when they're drawn up by somebody, but they're

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Speaker 4: they're behind the where the players are standing. They're recessed

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Speaker 4: down and low. They're fun if you want to drink

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Speaker 2: So a couple a couple thoughts. Number one, you said, PAULI, Well,

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Speaker 2: it's only for eight times a year. I think, if

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Speaker 2: you like. From what I read, a big part of

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Speaker 2: stadium renovations is trying to get more events.

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Speaker 4: You're right about that. I'm reading about the Jacksonville Jaguars.

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Speaker 4: They want to make some retractable top more weather friendly,

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Speaker 4: more fan coverage for weather events, to attract more college

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Speaker 4: football games, possibly a super Bowl again.

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Speaker 2: But even even like the the Catlina Panthers. I don't

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Speaker 2: know if Charlotte was on Taylor Swift's tour or not. Like,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if they were one of the cities

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Speaker 8: Hey, Ross, first of all, thanks for having me. It's

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Speaker 8: Huge you know, populations of people with Senegalese Conglese, Guadaloop

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Speaker 8: Ivory Coast descent. It's the same thing that we're seeing

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Speaker 8: on the French soccer team. They're ranked number two in

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Speaker 8: the world. I've spent a lot of time in France

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Speaker 8: over the last twenty years, and every time I step

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Speaker 8: into a gym, you know, for you know, a youth

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Speaker 8: level game, I mean, just the talent and physical talent

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Speaker 8: is incredible. There's so much size and length and athleticism

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Speaker 8: and the infrastructure has really caught up, the coaching has

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Speaker 8: caught up, and we're really seeing French teams make more

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Speaker 8: of an investment in playing these guys at a younger age.

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Speaker 8: Now they saw what, you know, Victor Winn Banyama leading

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Speaker 8: his team to the finals a year ago, billau Kool

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Speaker 8: Body playing starting starting at point guard in the finals

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Speaker 8: after barely playing the first half of the season. So

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Speaker 8: I think, you know, basketball is very popular in France

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Speaker 8: in no small part due to Tony Parker, but also

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Speaker 8: Nick Batoom, Rudy Gobert, Avon Fournier, you know, Boris Diao.

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Speaker 8: So it's you know, it's been a great legacy of

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Speaker 8: French players and it's only going to get stronger and

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Speaker 8: stronger now that they have the number one prospect in

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Speaker 8: the world who's playing in the NBA right now, Victor

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Speaker 8: Winn Vanyama, a future MVP.

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Speaker 2: We're talking with Jonathan Givoni, who does a terrific job

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Speaker 2: as you can tell, studying these guys for the NBA draft.

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Speaker 2: Those first two guys you mentioned, Jonathan, are they like

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Speaker 2: immediate impact guys? Are they developmental guys for three five

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Speaker 2: years from now? What do you envision their NBA pass being.

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Speaker 8: I think they're both ready to play right away. They're

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Speaker 8: high level role players who can step on an NBA

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Speaker 8: court and impact the game defensively first and foremost. Zachary

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Speaker 8: reisa Che played at an exceptionally high level of basketball

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Speaker 8: this year. His team made the finals of the euro Cup.

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Speaker 8: They made the semi finals of the French Playoffs. He

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Speaker 8: was the leading player for them. They were the best

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Speaker 8: defensive team in both of the leagues that he competed in,

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Speaker 8: and he was their best defender. When you know, the

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Speaker 8: six foot ten guy, when they needed to get a stop,

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Speaker 8: they would put him on a point guard. So that's

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Speaker 8: going to translate to the NBA right away, and his

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Speaker 8: instincts are going to translate too. He's an outstanding passer,

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Speaker 8: he's a great cutter. He's just the game comes very

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Speaker 8: easily for him, and he can shoot the ball at

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Speaker 8: a very high level. So every team in the NBA

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Speaker 8: is looking for that. Alex aar the same thing. He

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Speaker 8: led the Australian NBA, which is a very strong league,

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Speaker 8: in block percentage this season, so he's going to come

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Speaker 8: in ready to impact the game on that end right away.

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Speaker 8: He also made quite a few threes. He's very good

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Speaker 8: pushing the ball off the defensive lass. He's got a

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Speaker 8: short roll, he's an excellent pick and roll finisher. So

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Speaker 8: you know a guy with those kind of physical attributes,

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Speaker 8: who can who already has you know, the ability to

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Speaker 8: impact the game on the defensive end. I mean, any

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Speaker 8: team that drafts him, most likely Washington is going to

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Speaker 8: slot him in right away and give him the runway

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Speaker 8: to develop his into his full potential.

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Speaker 2: All right, what about some of the guys I have

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Speaker 2: heard of Jonathan, Guys like Donovan Klingen, Zach Edy, Stephen Castle,

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Speaker 2: Reed Shepherd one of those guys likely to hear their

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Speaker 2: names called what do they project to be in the NBA?

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Speaker 8: Well, it feels like the draft really starts at three

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Speaker 8: because Houston within win now mode. They acquired this pick

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Speaker 8: in a trade from Brooklyn and they're on a pathway

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Speaker 8: to making the playoffs here. So the big question that

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Speaker 8: teams have is are they going to keep this pick?

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Speaker 8: Are they going to trade it for a more of

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Speaker 8: a ready made contributors. If they do trade it, we're

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Speaker 8: expecting that somebody will be moving up to get Donovan

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Speaker 8: Klingen a number three. Donovan Klingen is the best rimp

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Speaker 8: protector in this draft. He had a huge impact on

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Speaker 8: Yukon winning the National championship on both ends of the floor.

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Speaker 8: He was an offensive hub for Yukon. He's a very

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Speaker 8: good operating out a handoff. He's a very good screener.

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Speaker 8: He's a very good pass out of short rolls. He's

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Speaker 8: an offensive rebounder, he's draws fouls, he plays incredibly hard.

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Speaker 8: Donovan Cleanon can play in an NBA game tonight. So

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Speaker 8: there's a lot of interest in him, especially among teams

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Speaker 8: like Memphis who have.

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Speaker 2: The ninth pick.

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Speaker 8: For example, Portland at seven, which is considered to be

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Speaker 8: his floor. If he slides Oklahoma City at twelve, kind

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Speaker 8: of a sleeper, they really need another big bodied guy,

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Speaker 8: and you know is clinging that guy. Could it be

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Speaker 8: Zach Edie with the twelfth pick. So a lot of

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Speaker 8: permutations that will really change the complexion of how this

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Speaker 8: night goes. So I would pay very close attention to

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Speaker 8: what happens with the number three pick if Houston keeps it.

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Speaker 8: Most NBA teams are expecting them to draft Reed Shepherd

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Speaker 8: from Kentucky. He's the best shooter in this draft. He

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Speaker 8: made fifty two percent of his threes this year. No

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Speaker 8: player has done that in college basketball. No first round

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Speaker 8: pick has done that since nineteen eighty nine Glenn Rice

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Speaker 8: at Michigan, So just shows you the type of shooter

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Speaker 8: that he is. He also has a great feel for

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Speaker 8: the game. He makes the game easy for teammates. He

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Speaker 8: can play on the ball, he can play off the ball.

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Speaker 8: So it's you know, it's an exciting group, but not

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Speaker 8: the same type of star power that you normally expect

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Speaker 8: to see at the top of the draft, but high

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Speaker 8: level role players who are ready to make an impact

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Speaker 8: in the NBA from day one.

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Speaker 2: What did the trade the Bridge's trade last night from

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Speaker 2: the Nets to the Knicks and five first round picks,

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Speaker 2: What did that do to the draft in your mind,

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Speaker 2: if anything? And what does it mean for the Knicks

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Speaker 2: in the Eastern Conference.

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Speaker 8: Well, the Knicks have the twenty fourth, twenty fifth, and

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Speaker 8: thirty eighth picks in this draft, and I think they

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Speaker 8: went from possibly being in the market to trade one

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Speaker 8: or two of those picks to probably keeping all three

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Speaker 8: of them and rostering those players and maybe asking those

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Speaker 8: players to play a real role for them. Because you

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Speaker 8: bring Nick cal Bridges on at his salary, you re

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Speaker 8: sign og and Unobi. All of a sudden, you are

547
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Speaker 8: firmly in the luxury tax and you need to find

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Speaker 8: cheap contributors on a cost controlled rookie scale contract who

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Speaker 8: are ready to play rotation minutes from day one. Now

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Speaker 8: we know Tom Thibodeau not a huge fan of rookies.

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Speaker 8: He's going to play Josh Hart forty eight minutes if

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Speaker 8: it's up to him. But I think that the Nick

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Speaker 8: saw the way that the playoffs went for them this spring.

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Speaker 8: These guys were at a gap by the time they

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Speaker 8: reached Game seven of the playoffs against the Indiana Pacers.

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Speaker 8: They need to, you know, widen their rotation and find

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Speaker 8: ways to get to the finish line in better shape physically.

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Speaker 8: And so I think that a big man is a

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Speaker 8: strong possibility, either at twenty four or twenty five. Whoever,

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Speaker 8: the best available center is maybe a guy like khalil Ware,

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Speaker 8: for example, from Indiana. So and then I think that

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Speaker 8: they're going to look at older players, you know, twenty

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Speaker 8: five and thirty eight. Maybe someone like Terence Shannon, who

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Speaker 8: was one of the best players in college basketball this

565
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Speaker 8: year and is a very good defender and he's made

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Speaker 8: thirty six percent of his threes and means out standing

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Speaker 8: in transition. Guys like that, I think are going to

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Speaker 8: be in vogue, not just for the Knicks, but for

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Speaker 8: all of these playoff teams. Everybody needs to find guys

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Speaker 8: who can play right now because of the way that

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Speaker 8: they change the luxury tax rules with the second Apron,

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Speaker 8: It's never been more important to draft well and to

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Speaker 8: have guys play for cheap.

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Speaker 2: Last minute here, Jonathan. If Bronnie james last name was different,

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Speaker 2: if he was Bronnie Papps and Paulie Papps was his dad,

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Speaker 2: would he get drafted and where would he get drafted?

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Speaker 8: It's a tough question to answer because a lot of them.

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Speaker 8: Makes Bronnie James interesting is the fact that he's got

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Speaker 8: incredible genetics. We've seen second generation players far exceed expectations

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Speaker 8: in the NBA in a way that most people could

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Speaker 8: not imagine. Jalen Brunson is a great example. Steph Curry there,

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Speaker 8: I mean, the list goes on and on, and so

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Speaker 8: the reason why Bronni James could be good is because

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Speaker 8: he's been around this game his entire life. He knows

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Speaker 8: how to play the game, he knows how to play

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Speaker 8: with other good players. He brings high level intensity on

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Speaker 8: every possession. Defensively, he's unselfish, He's a good three point shooter.

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Speaker 8: He's explosive, and so somebody's going to possibly draft him

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Speaker 8: tomorrow for what he could become in three to five

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Speaker 8: years from now.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 8: The Lakers are very intrigued with him, and it doesn't

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Speaker 8: hurt that his last name is indeed James, and drafting

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Speaker 8: him gives you a better chance of keeping Lebron in

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Speaker 8: Los Angeles. That's not a given. They're willing to give

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Speaker 8: him a guaranteed contract, a real roster spot, which you

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Speaker 8: don't normally expect to see at that point in the draft.

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Speaker 8: So that's if it wasn't an associated with the Lakers,

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Speaker 8: his whole pathway would have been different. He would have

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Speaker 8: done twenty workouts. He only did two, and a lot

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Speaker 8: of that is because they want him to play for

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Speaker 8: the Lakers. It's a great situation for him.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Jonathan, really appreciate it.

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Speaker 8: Thanks for having me there.

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Speaker 2: He is Jonathan Givoni. He's gonna be part of ESPN's

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Speaker 2: coverage to the NBA Draft tonight starting at seven thirty

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Speaker 2: pm Eastern. It'll be on ABC as well, and then

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Speaker 2: Round two, the Brownie Knight is four pm tomorrow on ESPN.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna transition a little little bit away from the

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Speaker 2: NBA because there's a guy I've never met him before,

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Speaker 2: but I would really like to punch him in the face.

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Speaker 2: And I'll tell you about it when we return forty

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Speaker 2: minutes past the hour here on the Dan Patrick Show.

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Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan

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Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific

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Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAPP.

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Speaker 2: I will get back to the NBA Draft talk, NBA trades,

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Speaker 2: NBA free agency, all that stuff a little bit more

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Speaker 2: at the top of the hour, but right now I

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Speaker 2: need to tell you why the name schloss Nagel will

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Speaker 2: live on in infamy in College Station, Texas forever. In fact,

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Speaker 2: you know what, Polly, why don't you lay out the

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Speaker 2: timeline for this schloss Nagel character.

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Speaker 4: I want you to keep calm. You figuredly want to

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Speaker 4: punch him in the face, right, Not literally.

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Speaker 2: No, I mean probably literally, but like you have, it's

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Speaker 2: not a waiver if whole thing.

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Speaker 4: So Monday morning, kind of a surprise the Texas Longhorns

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Speaker 4: baseball program. They fired their head coach.

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Speaker 2: There were some details behind it. You could look them up.

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Speaker 4: It's not pretty, but it was a surprise opening that

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Speaker 4: the Texas Longhorns baseball job is a pristine top job

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Speaker 4: in college baseball. Texas Longhorns had lots of dough, very

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Speaker 4: big program. Everyone was speculating during the day that the

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Speaker 4: College World Series which was on Monday night Tennessee versus

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Speaker 4: A and M, the winning coach gets the Texas job.

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Speaker 4: That just suddenly came up, and that was just speculation.

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Speaker 4: So Monday night, Tennessee in the close game, beats A

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Speaker 4: and M to win the College Baseball World Series and

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Speaker 4: their head coach, Jim Schlossnegel, very successful at A and

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Speaker 4: M the past few years, very successful before that at

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Speaker 4: TCU and other stops. Longtime TCU head coach was interviewed

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Speaker 4: after the game, and of course one of the reporters,

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Speaker 4: with the Texas job being open, decided to ask him

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Speaker 4: about his status with the team.

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Speaker 2: And that reporter his name is Richard Zane of techsags

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Speaker 2: dot com. And here was the response from Schloshnagel, starting

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Speaker 2: with the question from Richard.

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Speaker 9: Zane, coach with respect to the difficult outcome tonight, but

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Speaker 9: with the rumor circulating today about a specific job opening,

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Speaker 9: what you have to say about your future and agulant.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, I think he's pretty selfish of you

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Speaker 10: to ask me that question, to be honest with you,

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Speaker 10: but I left my family to be the coach at

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Speaker 10: Texas A and M. I took the job at Texas

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Speaker 10: A and M to never take another job again. And

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Speaker 10: that hasn't changed in my mind. And that's unfair to

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Speaker 10: talk about something like that. They'd be like you asking

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Speaker 10: Montgomery if he's gonna sign in the draft.

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Speaker 2: But I understand you got to ask the question.

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Speaker 10: But I gave up a big part of my life

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Speaker 10: to come take this job, and I've poured every ounce

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Speaker 10: of my soul in this job, and I've given this

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Speaker 10: job every single ounce I can possibly give it to

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Speaker 10: write that.

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Speaker 2: And then he stormed off right after that. That, by

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Speaker 2: Twenty hours after that, I think it might have been

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Speaker 2: less than twenty hours, but twenty hours after that, he

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Speaker 2: was named the head coach of Texas. Here's my thought

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Speaker 2: on this. I don't care at all that this guy

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Speaker 2: left A and M for Texas. More power to him.

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Speaker 2: Why would he say to the reporter that it was

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Speaker 2: selfish of him to ask that question? In hindsight, it

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Speaker 2: was obviously and very clearly a clairvoyant, real word look

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Speaker 2: it up, bam question by Richard Zayne. It's way more

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Speaker 2: interesting than asking him, how do you feel about losing

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Speaker 2: the National championship game to Tennessee? Like I feel bad?

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Speaker 2: He'd already asked that question. There were reports that day already.

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Speaker 2: I think it's so strange that he went out of

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Speaker 2: his way to try and demean this reporter, who, by

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Speaker 2: the way, I'll just say this sounds very young. I

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Speaker 2: don't know how old Richard Zayne is, but he sounds

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Speaker 2: very young. And Schloshnagel's no spring Chicken. So for this

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Speaker 2: man in his fifties, I'm gonna guests to demean this

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Speaker 2: young man who seems like he's in his twenties because

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Speaker 2: he respectfully asked him the right question. It makes me sick.

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Speaker 2: I don't care about college baseball at all. Except for now.

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Speaker 2: I'm rooting against the Texas Longhorns in every baseball game

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Speaker 2: they play as long as schloss Nagel is there a coach.

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Speaker 3: Unbelievable, Fritzy, what if schlas Nagel would have used the

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Speaker 3: word insensitive or you'd still have a big problem. But

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Speaker 3: instead of selfish, like can we just lost and we're

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Speaker 3: trying to process this here? We worked very hard and

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Speaker 3: we came up short. We had a one game to

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Speaker 3: I think lead lost the last two. You know you're

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Speaker 3: asking me about other jobs that we just lost them.

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Speaker 3: Yeagg he's coach right now.

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Speaker 5: Seaton, Well, I have many problems with it because it's

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Speaker 5: It's one of the most mind boggling things I've ever

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Speaker 5: seen from a coach. But he says in there, I

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Speaker 5: think that's a really selfish question for you to ask

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Speaker 5: dot dot dot. I mean, I know you have to

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Speaker 5: ask it, do dot But he just said, I know

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Speaker 5: you have to ask it. If you have to ask it,

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Speaker 5: then how is it selfish? It's not self serving in

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Speaker 5: any way if you have to ask this. I get

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Speaker 5: that you have to ask this, So I'm going to

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Speaker 5: be respectful is the way that that should go. But

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Speaker 5: how can you claim it selfish while also having to

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Speaker 5: do it?

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Speaker 2: You know what? My initial it's a great point. He

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Speaker 2: literally contraded himself within twin twenty five seconds. When I

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Speaker 2: see this, if I'm the Texas AD, and evidently they're

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Speaker 2: friends because the text AD was the TCU AD when

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Speaker 2: schloss Nagel was the TCU head coach. But I gotta

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Speaker 2: be honest with you. If I'm the Texas AD, my

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Speaker 2: initial reaction, if I'm thinking I'm going to hire this

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Speaker 2: guy the next day, is like, wait, am I sure

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Speaker 2: I want to do this? Why would he call that

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Speaker 2: reporter selfish? Why would he contradict himself within twenty minutes?

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Speaker 2: Why would he? And honestly, this isn't just hindsight, but

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Speaker 2: it comes across as methinks he doth protest too much Shakespeare.

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Speaker 2: Look it up, bamp PAULI.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a bit surreal and bizarre by Schlasnagel because

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Speaker 4: let's say he didn't speak to anyone from Texas or

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Speaker 4: his agent didn't speak to anyone from Texas because his

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Speaker 4: parent Knight's game, he had no interest or hadn't been

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Speaker 4: broached by the Texas, which is hard to believe by

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Speaker 4: the way. It's hard to believe by saying that you're

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Speaker 4: setting yourself up to stay at A and M. It's

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Speaker 4: a great cut. If you stay at A and M,

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Speaker 4: you look like you're all in on the program. He's

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Speaker 4: got to know that he's got the Texas job is open,

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Speaker 4: he's aware his friend runs Texas Sports and that he's

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Speaker 4: probably gonna have the tires kicked on him the next day.

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Speaker 2: You know, It's just it was way too He already

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Speaker 2: knew he was going head or had had an idea

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Speaker 2: that that was a possibility.

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Speaker 4: Correct, And why go so scorched earth? Why not just

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Speaker 4: go you know what, I'm here to talk about the game.

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Speaker 4: I'm here to talk about the game and be a

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Speaker 4: disservice to talk about anything else.

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Speaker 2: That's It would have been so easy to say, I'm

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Speaker 2: not talking about anything other than the game that just happened.

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Speaker 2: He must have some type of history with this reporter.

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Speaker 2: I just don't get it, Fritzy, And.

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Speaker 3: What exactly is selfish? He's suggesting that report is trying

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Speaker 3: to make a name for himself. He's gonna get the

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Speaker 3: big scoop, he's gonna.

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Speaker 2: Well, in fairness, we are talking about Richard Stane. But

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Speaker 2: he's the one that made him. He's the one that

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Speaker 2: made him famous. He's the one that I just think,

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Speaker 2: if I'm Texas, that would have this would have actually

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Speaker 2: given me pause about hiring the guy. It would have

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Speaker 2: given me some pause. By the way, I don't know

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Speaker 2: if we can find out. I am fascinated to know

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Speaker 2: how much like a top baseball coach gets, or how

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Speaker 2: much schloss Nagels getting from the Longhorns. I have no idea.

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Speaker 2: You could give me like a million dollar range and

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Speaker 2: I might still not be surprised. We'll talk about at

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Speaker 2: the top of the hour. And we got Vince will Fork,

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Speaker 2: the man