1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: I guess this one struck such a chord with me 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 1: because as a person of color, specifically like an African American, 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:17,440 Speaker 1: I know that existing in my bones is a you know, 4 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: ever present artifact that my way of life was destroyed 5 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 1: and there is no going back to it, my god, 6 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: not just mine. And I think, I think it's just 7 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 1: you're just we're just more acute to it rather than 8 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: like sort of like European history, because y'all's history got 9 00:00:34,800 --> 00:00:37,639 Speaker 1: flattened so much into being y'all just white people's, then. 10 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 2: You forget that you were tribal. 11 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:43,519 Speaker 1: Also say like y'all was just as tribal as we were, 12 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,959 Speaker 1: and your way of life got flattened multiple times by 13 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 1: the Romans. Naga Yo said, I think of Native Americans, 14 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: you know, I think of Central and South Americans, you 15 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, and even with yeah, well not 16 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: even with them, but Central and South Americans, you know, 17 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 1: at the and Cortes andem touchdown, you know, or or 18 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: the ones in you know, USA proper, like when then 19 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: when that mayflower touched down on the East coast, you know, 20 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: obviously there It's not like there hadn't been Europeans before then, 21 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: you know, but that doesn't demark like. 22 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 2: The end of. 23 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: A world, like a world is about to die, you know, 24 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: metaphorically speaking. And if you could get up high enough, 25 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: like at a high enough vantage point to look down 26 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 1: at you know, a timeline where you can look at 27 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 1: the movement of time from a vantage point where you 28 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: can see all these different plot points, but also high 29 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: enough to see different locations, like what's happening on one 30 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: side of the Atlantic and the other side of the Atlantic. 31 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: Like stay with me at this metaphor, Like if you 32 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: were standing at the at the North Pole, you know, 33 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: and then you're following the lines of latitude. Those are 34 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,559 Speaker 1: the vertical ones, right, no longitude, those are the vertical ones, 35 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: because latitude is moving lateral anyway. I don't know, maybe 36 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: either way those lines Like if we're standing at the pole, 37 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: you're all the lines at the equator, like meet all 38 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: the lines across the equator, meet at the pole. Don't 39 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: get lost in this metaphor. The point I'm trying to 40 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 1: say is if you had an omniscient view, you know, 41 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 1: where you can see everything. If if a native you know, 42 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: American first nation person could see it all and be like, yo, 43 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: that was the moment. That was the moment where the 44 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: line was crossed, and it was the beginning of the end. 45 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: Where are this land as we know it is now done? 46 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: I just think that that that sits inside of me 47 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: in a way that maybe I'm a poet. Maybe it's 48 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: because I do have a politics, so I'm maybe because 49 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 1: I'm part of cool Zone Media, which, as you know, 50 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: we're we're always looking into the brinks of destruction. Are 51 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 1: all of our shows are about the event horizon before 52 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: you go into the black hole yokes, but also the 53 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: possibility of coming out of the black hole, which you 54 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 1: know or literally speaking a possible, but we're saying like, Okay, 55 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,960 Speaker 1: there's also possible life at the end of this or 56 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 1: through this, or there are things that we can do 57 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: and say to at least mitigate some of the harm 58 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: that we're all experiencing. For me, I'm gonna get real 59 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: transparent with you because it's a bonus episode. Obviously, when 60 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: I was coming to iHeart, my first hope was to 61 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,239 Speaker 1: be over there on the Black Effect Network. You know 62 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, come on, Charlotte Mane to God 63 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: like you act like I didn't listen to the same 64 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: radio shows. You know what I'm saying, Like I wanted 65 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: to in some ways be mentored by Charlomagne. 66 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 2: You feel me. 67 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: I mean, in a lot of ways, he's doing what 68 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: I would hope to do, you know, And I hope 69 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: hears this, you know what I'm saying. And my manager, 70 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: you know, presented my show to the network, and who 71 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 1: knows what happened behind closed doors. I mean, I don't know. 72 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: Maybe people are protecting my feelings. Maybe he passed, maybe 73 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: he didn't, Maybe he never got the email, maybe his 74 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: people never showed him. 75 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 2: I don't know. It doesn't matter. 76 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: I was at the same time, I was always I 77 00:04:09,120 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: was obviously connected to Robert and Sophie, and we had 78 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: already built a rapport. And when Sophie was like, y'all 79 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: we're building a network at that point, it was like, Yo, 80 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: this is a no brainer. 81 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:19,039 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. 82 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: I know what y'all were trying to build, you know, 83 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:25,039 Speaker 1: And I had just finished, you know, writing the Terrorform book, 84 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: and the idea of what cool Zone was about to 85 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: become was exactly what I meant by Terraform. It's about 86 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: imagining a better future living, you know, building a livable 87 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 1: world and for me hood politics, which may have started 88 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: off as something like just kind of fun and quirky. Ultimately, 89 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: I think as I got you know, g checked a 90 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,599 Speaker 1: few times by some actual gangsters, you know what I mean, 91 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: and also like as I thought through really what I. 92 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 2: Wanted to do, I really, I really do. 93 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:54,719 Speaker 1: Hope that this this show softly puts its arm around 94 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 1: people who look and talk and sound and come from 95 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 1: areas like I do you know what I'm saying look 96 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: like me? You know, basically I'm saying colored folks, you 97 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like who you know may either 98 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: really really really been outside or just lived on the 99 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: streets where niggas was outside, whatever the case may be, 100 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 1: for us to like look into that abyss and be like, hey, man, 101 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 1: I know you understand, I know you feel it, but 102 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: let's look at what it is and just remember that 103 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 1: like we are the possibility that we can possibly we understand. 104 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: We understand this world better than we're given credit for. Anyway, 105 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: I wanted to share this poem as a bonus for 106 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 1: this last show. We just did a lot of times 107 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 1: Black people really ain't moved by climate change, which I 108 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: talked about in the in the episode. But anyway, part 109 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 1: of why I do is because I feel like and 110 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 1: as much as sort of mourning, pain and suffering that 111 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: came from us losing our way of life. We ain't 112 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 1: lose Earth, Nigga. I don't know if y'all get it. 113 00:05:56,720 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: We're finna lose Earth. No, no, no, let me say this better, 114 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: earthinna lose us ain't gonna be our Fault's poems called 115 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 1: at the Brink of Extinction. On the brink of extinction, 116 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 1: your awareness of urgency finally finds a focus. You see 117 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 1: no point in being angry at the past, and the 118 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: future ain't got you in its plans. All there is 119 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: is this now, just a couple more nows. You notice 120 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: a sweet taste that now has which has eluded. 121 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 2: You the whole time. 122 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 1: On the brink of extinction, your definition of family stretches, 123 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: priorities find their final form. Your palate becomes refined and childlike, 124 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: a somalie of fine whiskeys, fried food, corn syrup, and pain. 125 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: And the best cup of anything you've ever had is. 126 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 2: To warn in your hand. 127 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: On the brink of extinction, the songs are your fore mothers, 128 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: which once produced the most dizzying of eye rolls take 129 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: center stage and receive their lifetime Achievement awards. You remember 130 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: that they have been a warm blanket and a north 131 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: star the whole time. 132 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 2: You empty your draft folder. 133 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: Not on some sort of scorched earth, because that's what 134 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: got us here in the first place. Nah, it's a 135 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: massive deletion, because who needs. 136 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 2: Luggage in paradise. 137 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: At the brink of extinction, forgiveness feels as involuntary as breathing, 138 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: and all inner mirroal b feels silly. Why would I 139 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: spend my last moments fighting with me? You turn into 140 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: an anthropologist. Your conservation season is behind you. Activism is 141 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:45,040 Speaker 1: for those with younger needs. I have already enjoyed my 142 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: low dropping. I have backed that bang up enough. On 143 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 1: the brink of extinction, loneliness finds the strangest source of 144 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: comfort and reflection, regret and reimagining. On the brink of extinction, 145 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: your concern to have a yard sale. You decide which 146 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: is worthy of being reserved for your loved ones. What 147 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: can be thrown away? What is heirloom and heritage? What 148 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 1: is heresy and hearsay? On the brink of extinction, you 149 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: embrace the ever climbing, spiraling circle. Soon you are going 150 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:25,600 Speaker 1: to become all that follows you become what is taken. 151 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 2: You finally see clearly. 152 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 1: Nuanced and conundrum and mourning and celebration exist in the 153 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: same place. At the same time your sense of wonder, humor, 154 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:39,920 Speaker 1: and curiosity explodes. You have been forced to be a 155 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: silver lining hunter, comforter and mascot last of an ancestor too, 156 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: the choice of yours and yours alone? What is valuable 157 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: enough to pass on? To survey the wreckage of your 158 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 1: own destruction, salvage what the devastation left in its wake, 159 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: quickly and forcibly develop wisdom. You may or may not 160 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 1: be ready for mourn alone and inspire together, direct and console, 161 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: release and reinvest, Prepare, and perpetuate. Because procreation is clearly 162 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: out the question. Because some outside force, some heartless, colonial, 163 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: imperialistic parasite concerned only with its own posterity, pushed you 164 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: to the break of extinction, you are made to let 165 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: go of what was and embrace what will be. Yeah, 166 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: like I told you in the episode the Fuck Around 167 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 1: and find Out, motif isn't a graph as much as 168 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 1: it's a cliff. 169 00:09:58,160 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 2: And I don't know what it's gonna take for us 170 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 2: to wake up. I just fear that we. 171 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: Ain't gonna wake up until our heads hit the rock 172 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: on the bottom of that cliff. 173 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 2: Hood politics, y'all,