1 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: Welcome to brain Stuff, a production of iHeart Radio, Hey 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:12,120 Speaker 1: brain Stuff Lauren vogebam here. The United States Supreme Court 3 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 1: recently overturned its N three decision in Roe v. Wade, 4 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: thus ending national rights to access some types of abortions. 5 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 1: This news has kicked off protests and calls to codify 6 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:29,479 Speaker 1: abortion access in law across the country. Today, let's look 7 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: at the case of Roe v. Wade, what it decided 8 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: and how it was overturned. Jane Rowe was a pseudonym 9 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: for Norma McCorvey, a pregnant single woman in Texas who 10 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 1: was unable to get an abortion because state law barred 11 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: abortion in most instances except when a woman's life was 12 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: at risk. McCorvey's life was not in danger, but she 13 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: also couldn't afford to travel outside of Texas to have 14 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: an abortion. She claimed that the Texas law violated her 15 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: constitutional right to privacy. The Wade in the case refers 16 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 1: to Henry Wade, a Dallas County District attorney. Rowe, who 17 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: remained anonymous throughout the lawsuit was joined by a Texas 18 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:14,920 Speaker 1: physician who argued that the laws were too vague for 19 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: care providers to follow. Previously, he had been arrested for 20 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: violating the laws. The lawsuit argued that Rowe had a 21 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 1: right to obtain an abortion. A federal court in Texas 22 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: agreed with her, ruling that the Texas ban was unconstitutional, 23 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: but once the case reached the Supreme Court, the issues 24 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: involved seemed so complex that the court actually had both 25 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:41,400 Speaker 1: sides present arguments twice, in December of nineteen seventy one 26 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: and again in October of nineteen seventy two. The Court 27 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: reviewed the case for two full years, weighing biological, ethical, 28 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: and religious arguments in addition to constitutional issues. Ultimately, the 29 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: justices ruled seven to two in favor of Row. All 30 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: the justice as were men. The first woman wouldn't be 31 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: appointed to the Supreme Court until Sandra Day O'Connor began 32 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: serving almost a decade later. In four Roe v. Wade, 33 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: Justice Harry Blackman wrote the majority opinion, which argued that 34 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 1: five of the constitutional amendments combined to create a zone 35 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: of privacy around certain personal decisions like marriage and contraception, 36 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 1: and that banning all abortions violated that right to make 37 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: a personal and private decision about whether or not to 38 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 1: have a child. Those amendments that he referenced were the 39 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: First Amendment, which guarantees personal freedoms, the fourth, which protects 40 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: citizens from unreasonable surge and seizure, the fifth, which guarantees 41 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: due process of the law before any citizen may be 42 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: deprived of life or liberty, the ninth, which specifically doesn't 43 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 1: limit a person's rights to what's in the Constitution, and 44 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: the fourteenth, which prevents individual states from infringing on American 45 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: citizens rights to due process and their stuff like equal 46 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 1: protection under the law. However, Blackman also wrote that the 47 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 1: right to privacy had to be balanced with the government's 48 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 1: interest in protecting potential human life, and to strike that balance, 49 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: the Court decided that it was up to a woman 50 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: and her doctor to choose whether or not to do 51 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 1: an abortion in the first trimester of pregnancy. This barred 52 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 1: states from provoking a woman's right to terminate a pregnancy 53 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: in the first trimester for any reason. In the second trimester, 54 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: states had the authority to regulate abortions. During the third trimester, 55 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 1: a once a fetus reached the point of viability, that is, 56 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: the ability to survive outside of the womb, the state 57 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: could restrict or ban abortion, except in instances where it 58 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:50,440 Speaker 1: was necessary to protect a woman's life and health. Because 59 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: the case took years to decide. Before the verdict came down, 60 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: mccorby gave birth and put her child up for adoption. 61 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: She later changed her views on abortion and joined the 62 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: pro life side, though in a documentary released mccorby says 63 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: she only did so for the money. She died before 64 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: the documentary was released in but back to the court 65 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 1: in a second Supreme Court decision, a Planned Parenthood of 66 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: Southeastern Pennsylvania v. Casey, narrowly upheld Row by a five 67 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: to four decision, but the court also scrapped the trimester 68 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: framework and found that legal restrictions on abortion were acceptable 69 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: as long as they didn't place an undue burden upon women. 70 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 1: Rowe remained the law of the land for nearly half 71 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: a century, but the balance of the Supreme Court began 72 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 1: to change when Senate Republicans blocked Democratic President Barack Obama's 73 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: nomination of Merrick Garland to the Court and held open 74 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: the seat, thus enabling Obama's successor, Republican Donald Trump, to 75 00:04:56,120 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: dominate Neil Gorrish for the seat. In republic Kins approved 76 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 1: to other Trump appointees, giving conservatives a six to three 77 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 1: control of the Court. Then, in early May of two, 78 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 1: a leaked draft of an opinion by Justice Samuel Alito 79 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: in a case called Dabbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization 80 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: indicated that this conservative majority was ready to overturn Roe 81 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: and Casey. This new case concerned Mississippi's ban on abortion 82 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 1: after fifteen weeks. Dabbs is the name of a state 83 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: health officer. Two months after the leaked draft, on June two, 84 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 1: the Court officially affirmed Mississippi's ban on abortion by a 85 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: six to three vote in the Dabbs case, and it 86 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 1: furthermore overturned Row by narrower five to four margin. Justice Alito, 87 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: writing on behalf of Justice's Gorge Clarence Thomas, Brett Covana 88 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: and Amy Coney Barrett, found that Rowe had been quote 89 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: egregiously wrong and deeply damaging, and that abortion was not 90 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: to right protected either explicitly or implicitly in the Constitution. 91 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:09,280 Speaker 1: That due process clause of the Fourteenth Amendment, he wrote, 92 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: has been held to guarantee some rights that are not 93 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: mentioned in the Constitution, but any such right must be 94 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: deeply rooted in this nation's history and tradition. And implicit 95 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: in the concept of ordered liberty. The right to abortion 96 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: does not fall within this category. Whether that's historically correct 97 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,359 Speaker 1: is a matter of research that's out of the scope 98 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: of this episode. Because our understanding of the human body 99 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: and reproduction has advanced so much in the past few 100 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: hundred years. We only started to understand how sperm and eggs, 101 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:43,920 Speaker 1: and conception and the growth of a baby all work 102 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 1: when researchers first proposed cell theory in the late eighteen thirties, 103 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: a full fifty years after the Constitution was written. But 104 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 1: this ruling means that each state can set its own 105 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,919 Speaker 1: abortion laws, and almost half the states in the Union 106 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: are likely to restrict or outlaw abortion under their current 107 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: elected officials. The end of Row has provoked a political firestorm, 108 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: but it could be just the start of an even 109 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: more bitter battle. Justice Thomas, in his concurring opinion, indicated 110 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: that the Court should use their reasoning from Dabbs to 111 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: re examine other precedents, including the right to access contraception 112 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: from Griswold v. Connecticut, the freedom to engage in consensual 113 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: sexual intimacy from Lawrence v. Texas, and the right to 114 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: same sex marriage from a Burghafel v. Hodges. Today's episode 115 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: is based on the articles you know these seven Supreme 116 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: Court cases by name, But what did they decide? Written 117 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: by Dave Rus and Thirteen Overturned Supreme Court Cases written 118 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: by Ed Grebanowski and Melanie red Seki McManus, both appearing 119 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: on House to works dot Com. The brain Stuff is 120 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: production by Heart Radio in partnership with how stuff works 121 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: dot Com and is produced by Tyler klang F. 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