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Speaker 1: Now, the Shotgun Starting Golf is full of mathematics. There's

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Speaker 2: Week alright, alright, alright, gentle man Dark, your.

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Speaker 3: Greetings, and welcome to a Friday edition of The Shotgun Start.

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Speaker 3: It is October eighteenth, Andy, how we doing.

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Speaker 2: Brendan do good? It's been a day of celebration. The

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Speaker 3: Have you been celebrating.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, been celebrating today. It took my xeos to the

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Speaker 2: driving range, hit a medium bucket.

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Speaker 3: Do you think he's going to play the Is he

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Speaker 3: playing the Dominion Energy Charity Classic, that first Schwab Cup

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Speaker 3: event right in at fifty you should?

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Speaker 2: I hope he's a guy that just resists, the resists

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Speaker 3: The party circuit. Yeah, it doesn't seem like.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he can't really contend. He can't contend anymore,

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Speaker 2: so that's the problem. You don't think so on the

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Speaker 3: His biggest fin resigned here, We're not going to see

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Speaker 2: Well, he's Augusta Distum. I think ever since Augusta Distum

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Speaker 2: tricked him, you know, made him think that he that

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Speaker 3: Mm hm hmmm. I got a little little bird told

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Speaker 3: me this morning, this evening there was I don't know

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Speaker 3: it out there. The h you see all the international players.

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Speaker 3: There was a big President's Cup Instagram story the international

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Speaker 3: players saying Happy Birthday to Ernie Els. They like gathered

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Speaker 2: Yeah, except for one day, Yeah, sick day.

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Speaker 3: So he was too tired, too tired, he didn't do it.

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Speaker 3: So they all had this like it together. They facetimeed

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Speaker 3: Ernie Els saying happy birthday to him, but no day

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Speaker 3: who was allegedly tired. I think I think without.

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Speaker 2: Him, as of this recording, he's tied for first.

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Speaker 3: Because all the scores will be very moot.

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Speaker 2: That's why we're not going to run more about about

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Speaker 2: the cash grab of cup or plaque cash grab plaque. Hey,

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Speaker 2: you know, Tuesday I did a little more digging into

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Speaker 2: very disheartening thing, a little fact.

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Speaker 3: What what'd you find but the CJ.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so Kelly Kraft last year and the CJ Cup.

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Speaker 2: You know what he finished, I'll say twenty six. That's

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Speaker 2: a Kelly Craft kind of spot forty fourth bottom half. Okay,

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Speaker 2: you know how many fed Ex Cup points he got

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Speaker 3: Uh no, how many he.

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Speaker 2: Got between ten and ten and eleven fractional? You know what? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: You really dove into this. You connect a lot of

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't I wouldn't bring this up if it wasn't relative.

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Speaker 2: You know, the guy kept his card because of a

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Speaker 2: Every other week on the tour. That gets you nothing,

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Speaker 3: What's amazing just in context of all these little marginal

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Speaker 3: you know, like all these little numbers don't matter. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 3: this cash, all these numbers, no cuts, all these little

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why Kelly Kraft kept his card and Richie

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Speaker 2: he's not He's not in the players and Kelly Craft

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Speaker 3: Now, oh that sucks.

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Speaker 2: So Kelly crafts fully yea, but yeah, but it's just bullshit.

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Speaker 3: You like Kevin Kelly Craft around, He's always here, like, oh,

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Speaker 2: I mean the guy, the guy should have conditional status,

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Speaker 3: That's a good digging. I appreciate that. Hey, while we're

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Speaker 3: report that, Uh, you know they're doing Web Tour Championship.

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Speaker 3: a disaster. You know. That was so cool having that

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Speaker 2: You know what why they did that, why they wanted

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Speaker 2: to add a little work perk to the job profile.

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Speaker 2: You know, labor day off for Panavidra employees. Oh, come on,

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Speaker 3: You're being hard on that. It's probably ryder Cup, you know,

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Speaker 3: you're just it's not worth chasing down, running down. I

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Speaker 3: They just have too many events. So anyways, we're off,

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Speaker 3: see who's in the Kelly Kraft zone at CJ Cup.

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Speaker 3: This will all be moot, completely moot, as we alluded to.

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Speaker 3: He's not playing the Champions Tour. He will never play

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Speaker 3: I got be honest. I enjoyed the prime time late

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Speaker 2: It's as good as everywhere they play in America.

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Speaker 3: No, So George Casia is tied with Ryan Fox. That

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is all pointless. This is a you know,

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about Brooksy?

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Speaker 2: It's pretty good, pretty good comment.

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Speaker 3: He Roy McRoy in the rivalry.

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Speaker 3: It was great? I mean it was uh yeah, it

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Speaker 2: Major there's one other category, sponsored content. Wwhitch was Saudi Arabia,

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Speaker 2: office uponovidra As re educated on the topic.

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Speaker 3: It was good comment. There is no rivalry, you know,

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Speaker 3: he hasn't won a major in five years. I have

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Speaker 3: he made it clears like I love Rory, like he's

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Speaker 2: Hey, is this?

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Speaker 3: I just don't know. Like Rory has nothing to worry about.

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Speaker 3: You could say that did it? Did it? Uh?

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Speaker 2: Am I to help Brooks?

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Speaker 3: I was going to say, did it boost Brooks? Did

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, other big news now that we're not

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Speaker 3: Did you see that? Like three wins? I know, well

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Speaker 2: Did you see this the pathway to poverty?

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Speaker 3: That's not nice? What was that was a joke you made?

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Speaker 2: Maybe the pathway from poverty.

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Speaker 3: That's not accurate, but you uh god.

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Speaker 2: I mean, what took so long? And it shouldn't even

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Speaker 3: What do you mean America should like what do you mean?

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Speaker 3: Here's the tweet paving the pathway, and you're like paving

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Speaker 2: That means what I'm saying, you're getting status either way.

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Speaker 2: It's less than ten.

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Speaker 2: Didn't Patrick Rogers do it?

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Speaker 2: He was, he was, he was, he was points.

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Speaker 3: So maybe this is less of a story than I think.

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Speaker 2: It's a horrible story. There's it's not real. They did nothing.

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Speaker 3: It was getting praised. It's it's not they.

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Speaker 3: I think it's commingled. Yeah, it's commingled. I don't see

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Speaker 2: Not a good look.

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Speaker 3: Not a good look for the Ryder Cup, not a

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Speaker 3: Wisconsin to hang himself in a barn and not get tickns.

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00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,959
Speaker 3: I was like, got dark these people were not happy,

439
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 3: So you got the opportunity to wait in a line

440
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 3: that apparently the technology just they couldn't keep up with

441
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 3: the demand and the flood of people that came in

442
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 3: through this system, and or the bots, right, the bots

443
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 3: that were gaming the system, gaming the waiting, the que

444
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:58,879
Speaker 3: and what you had were a bunch of people that

445
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 3: got these what I would call kind of misdirection emails,

446
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 3: waste like half their morning, half their day I should say,

447
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 3: three four hours. And then it sounds like it was

448
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 3: a disaster even when you got through it, like you

449
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 3: would add the tickets to your cart and it would

450
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 3: say malfunction, or you try to pay and there was

451
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 3: a malfunction, and the tickets, all the tickets that were

452
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 3: left for like Monday Tuesday, which at a Ryder Cup

453
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 3: is worthless.

454
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,240
Speaker 2: Right, Well, one fan got to make a putt a

455
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 2: couple of years ago, that's right.

456
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 3: But you've got like twenty four golfers. Yeah, it's it's not.

457
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 3: There's not people out there practicing, and the course is

458
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 3: never like the scenery, you know, the attraction. So I

459
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 3: mean all you all the PGA of America, what they've

460
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 3: done here is they got a lot of people excited,

461
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 3: invited them into their house and you know, with the

462
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 3: promise of whatever steak and served them like leftover garbage,

463
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,479
Speaker 3: and people are furious and now that they're in the house,

464
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 3: they're snooping around and they're pissed. So like it's kind

465
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 3: of they kind of like brought it on themselves, right.

466
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:16,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they You can't tell people they've won and

467
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 2: then not.

468
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 3: Let them win, you, Well, yeah, that was That's the

469
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 3: whole issue, the phrasing. And I can't tell you how

470
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 3: many people like neighborhood dads. It's like, I think I

471
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 3: just got Ryder Cup tickets. All these guys texting me like, guys,

472
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 3: do you want to go to Wisconsin next year? Are

473
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 3: we going? Do you want to go?

474
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:35,919
Speaker 2: Uh? Like?

475
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 3: And all it did was buy you like a half

476
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 3: day of kind of pulling your hair out.

477
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 2: The real crazy thing is.

478
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 3: Yes, let's get to this.

479
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 2: It's the partnership with the prime sport.

480
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 3: So this is where it turns from just kind of

481
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 3: bumbling kind of incompetence or bumbling you know, missteps into

482
00:28:55,960 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 3: something maybe a little more tvious. Go ahead, So they've

483
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 3: got a.

484
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 2: Secondary market partner.

485
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 3: Official partner. So who knows what that business relationship is.

486
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 2: And they you know, the rules were clear, like no

487
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 2: more than four tickets per person, right.

488
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 3: Right, And he goes, this is the snooping around they've

489
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 3: brought on themselves. People are mad and they're looking.

490
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 2: Around, and you go in and moments after the tickets

491
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 2: get officially sold out, the secondary market has you know,

492
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 2: copious amounts of tickets and for three times the price.

493
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, three four times, you know, tickets that are one

494
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 3: hundred eight dollars or for four hundred and fifty dollars.

495
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 3: Within ten minutes of this whatever lot or of this

496
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 3: queue opening, all.

497
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 2: These individuals must have been just so quick to go

498
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 2: to prime sport and they're all tickets, they're all in

499
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 2: the secondary market, where there's also an eighteen percent transaction fee, right,

500
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 2: so who knows who's getting that?

501
00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 3: You know, and America now has a relationship with them,

502
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 3: so I think that's where they've kind of so there.

503
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 3: You hear a lot about this, whether it's like with

504
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 3: super popular shoes or tickets to some like Hamilton, whatever

505
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 3: it is like where these like there are these issues

506
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 3: with with the technology and there's too many people and

507
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 3: there's a rush and or you know, the server's meltdown

508
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 3: or whatever. It is. Like this is common. But but

509
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,000
Speaker 3: the issue here and why it was different was they

510
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 3: lured people in with the like this fake misdirection of

511
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 3: your in, let's go to let's go to Wisconsin, and

512
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 3: then you know this secondary market thing. It really kind

513
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 3: of makes it a little more. You know, let's peek

514
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 3: under the rug. What's going on here? I wish I

515
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 3: all I know is the reaction was uniform. Fure nobody

516
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 3: got tickets. Everyone was like, you know, ryder Cups getting

517
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 3: ratioed into the center of the earth right every time

518
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 3: they tweet. Just it seems like a pretty significant misstep

519
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:14,479
Speaker 3: on a thing that like not a lot of people had.

520
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 3: Well that's here's the thing. Not a lot of people

521
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 3: probably had the anticipation of getting Ryder Cup tickets and

522
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 3: they kind of they brought they created that reality and

523
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 3: then created the letdout.

524
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 2: So, yeah, the worst thing you can do is disappoint someone.

525
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 3: You know, maybe I feel like there's worse things you

526
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 3: can do out there.

527
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 2: Well, it's it's to blow up expectations and then disappoint.

528
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 3: Right. So that's the issue.

529
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,760
Speaker 2: You know, Like if I if I said to my wife.

530
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 2: We were going on a big date night, big date night,

531
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 2: and then just didn't show up. That would really make

532
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 2: her mad. Versus if I didn't show up for dinner

533
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 2: at home, you know, and didn't say anything about a

534
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 2: date night.

535
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, sure, sure.

536
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 2: I mean situation too. I'm not getting in a ton

537
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 2: of trouble. The situation one. I'm getting in a lot

538
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 2: of trouble. What about booking a flight? You know, we

539
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 2: don't need to go there. I booked four flight I

540
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 2: booked four flights yesterday perfectly.

541
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 3: There you go. Uh so again that the tech problems

542
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 3: which we're having right now. Our Wi Fi connection is horrendous.

543
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 3: That's pretty common. But the problem was the way in which.

544
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 2: People don't come to this for a great audio.

545
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 3: Quality or good Wi Fi connections. All right, let's get

546
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 3: out of this. I want to do a quick segment

547
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 3: called the Penalty Box p K, the Penalty Box PB.

548
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 3: So there was a host of like weird crazy.

549
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 2: The senior Women's thing.

550
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 3: Yeah so that that, I mean, everybody knows about this.

551
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 3: How did you see that? Yesper Parnavic penalty from the

552
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 3: end of the SaaS Championship. I did not if you

553
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 3: had gone up to carry you would have. So Parnovic

554
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 3: missed a short putt. That horse shoot around the hole

555
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,800
Speaker 3: and hit his foot, came around and hit his foot.

556
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 3: What do you think the outcome of that should be?

557
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 2: It's a penalty. It shouldn't be.

558
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 3: No, So what it is is it's a mullegan. It's

559
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 3: like a straight up mulligan. You play it again. So

560
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 3: you missed the short bogie putt. It hits his foot,

561
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 3: you know, he just goes and taps it in. But

562
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 3: what he should have done is plays it back of

563
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 3: the original spot and the first stroke doesn't even count.

564
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 2: Really, yes, So it's kind of similar to the Zach

565
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 2: Johnson thing.

566
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,960
Speaker 3: When a ball played from the putting green accidentally hits

567
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 3: any person, animal, or movable obstruction on the putting green,

568
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 3: the stroke does not count. You just replace it in

569
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 3: your original spot and start over. So, but then because

570
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 3: he failed to do that instead just tapped in after

571
00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,760
Speaker 3: it hit his foot, he gets a penalty for that

572
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 3: because he failed this, you know, I guess uh. The

573
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 3: USGA said they'd like, no, I don't. They couldn't recall

574
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 3: ever this ever having to be put in to use

575
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:11,240
Speaker 3: kind of nuts, right.

576
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 2: How did he not get his foot out of the

577
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:18,280
Speaker 2: way in the way in time. That's a good point,

578
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 2: you know. Yes, there's going to be a part of

579
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 2: flashback Friday.

580
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 3: Oh fantastic, can't wait that.

581
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:27,879
Speaker 2: Then?

582
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 3: Uh, continuing in the penalty box, do you see Marcel

583
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,879
Speaker 3: seem over on the European Tour.

584
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 2: I did not see this.

585
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 3: Oh my god. He thought it was left cleaning place.

586
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 3: It was not.

587
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 2: Oh I did see that.

588
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 3: He left clean. I think he picked up his ball

589
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 3: five times in the opening nine clean and placed it.

590
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 2: Yes, I forgot.

591
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 3: It was ten strokes and he wd's like, I'm out

592
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 3: of here ten strokes. And what's worse is now you

593
00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 3: have to go back to q S school. This was

594
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:01,240
Speaker 3: his last shot.

595
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 2: Oh no, back to Q school. That's kind of too bad.

596
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 2: He didn't have the c J Cup to bail him out.

597
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 3: Oh that's kind of incredible, right, not knowing it's living

598
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 3: like that seems like something you really got to clear.

599
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 2: Up, right, that's pretty bad. Like don't you look around

600
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:27,399
Speaker 2: to see if you're playing partners are doing it at

601
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 2: some point?

602
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes? Or or who's not saying something to him?

603
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:36,879
Speaker 3: I don't know. I think that one's more more you know,

604
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,760
Speaker 3: inexcusable than the last one in the penalty box. Uh

605
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 3: Lee and Walker? Who you know, Senior LPGA Championship. She

606
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 3: doesn't really play competitive golf anymore, not up to speed

607
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 3: on the rules. So she's getting it brutal. She's getting

608
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 3: lined up left and right every every other shot, she's

609
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 3: getting lined up. Well, that's not legal anymore. They didn't

610
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 3: recognize their notice until like the fourteenth hole of the

611
00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 3: second round. So she posted rounds of eighty four and

612
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 3: eighty five and seventy four. But they added fifty eight

613
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 3: penalty shots forty two for the first round. That turned

614
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,959
Speaker 3: it into one twenty seven sixty more the second round

615
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 3: that turned it into a ninety Everybody, you know, this

616
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 3: is a massive story on was it Wednesday afternoon? So

617
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 3: she had fifty eight penals. She finishes out though she

618
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 3: did in WD there were only like panful holes to go,

619
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 3: but she finished out fifty eight holes. She goes, I

620
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 3: had no idea. Well, the most remarkable point of the

621
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 3: story is that she remembered exactly every single time she

622
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 3: was lined up for the last two days, right, yeah,

623
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,239
Speaker 3: give me two there two there too, Like that's the

624
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,399
Speaker 3: most remarkable part of the story. I mean, I could

625
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 3: see you go ahead.

626
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 2: It's a very trustworthy late.

627
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:06,439
Speaker 3: Fifty eight penalty shots? So what's that? What's the best?

628
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 3: What's the most penalty shots you've ever taken in a round?

629
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 3: I'm assuming not from a single instance, but like.

630
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 2: I think one time I made like a sixteen on

631
00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 2: a hole when I was a kid.

632
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 3: Was that just where was there a penalty or? Oh yeah,

633
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:23,760
Speaker 3: just water?

634
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 2: I kept hitting off water over and over and over.

635
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 2: I mean I was like twelve years old. Oh you

636
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,760
Speaker 2: know people people are like falling at this golf course

637
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,760
Speaker 2: French lick. It's like a brutal walk.

638
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 3: I did sen. Isn't it a mountaintop course or something?

639
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is like a bear to walk. It's like,

640
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 2: if you're gonna have this event, like, can we just

641
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 2: have it at a flat course?

642
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 3: It is a bit much, I know. I I don't

643
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,800
Speaker 3: understand why did they put it there of all places,

644
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 3: especially like mid October. It's probably a bit chili, bit nippy.

645
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 2: It's probably perfect for golf though down there Southern Indiana

646
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 2: and mid October it's gotta be good.

647
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 3: Probably. I'm sure there's some connection with the PGA of America.

648
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:17,919
Speaker 3: The place house.

649
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 2: Right, Well, you know, things things are a little a

650
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 2: little rustier at the peach of America after this week.

651
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 3: What do you mean the ticket Yajaska? All right, so

652
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 3: that's a penalty box you want to go? Uh let's

653
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:33,839
Speaker 3: move to flashback Friday? Is that all right? We do that?

654
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 3: I'm right you want to do Are we bumping Troy

655
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,000
Speaker 3: Merritt and Jazzy Jay again?

656
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think they're gonna get bumped again.

657
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 3: We have all this Troy Merritt research. All right.

658
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 2: Well you know what I know, I know nobody else

659
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 2: is sitting on that scoop.

660
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 3: That's a good point. That's a good point, all right. Uh,

661
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 3: you right to Flashback Friday. Yeah, let's do it.

662
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 2: We're going back to the Skins game thanks to the

663
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 2: upcoming Skins game.

664
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 3: Yeah. By the way, we're still figuring out recording schedule

665
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 3: for next week, so we may have an early podcast Sunday.

666
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 2: Well we'll figure that out when Sunday rolls around.

667
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,640
Speaker 3: Either way, whatever is there Monday morning won't have the

668
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 3: Skins game coverage on it. So go ahead, let's get

669
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 3: some flashback.

670
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 2: All right, So, do you know who mister Skins is? No,

671
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:39,800
Speaker 2: that's Freddy couples. Okay, so he he appeared on eleven

672
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 2: in eleven Skins games, he won four point four million

673
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 2: dollars and five overall Skins games, he won five of

674
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 2: eleven that he was in. But do you know who

675
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 2: the original mister Skins was? Lloyd Maingram I have no

676
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 2: idea who pay Stewart?

677
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 3: Oh? Okay?

678
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 2: He won three straight Skins Game only player to three

679
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:07,919
Speaker 2: peat in the Skins Game.

680
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,320
Speaker 3: So this was like a regular event, right every Thanksgiving

681
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 3: started in.

682
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,879
Speaker 2: Eighty three and ran through two thousand and eight. LG

683
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 2: was the sponsor in two thousand and eight and pulled

684
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 2: their sponsorship in No. Nine because of the economic collapse. Okay,

685
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 2: so in eighty three, do you know who the Skins Game?

686
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 2: First year of the Skins Game? Who the four players are?

687
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:40,800
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say Palmer Nicholas player Trevino Watson, okay instead

688
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 3: of Trevino So okay, I mean imagine if you put Brooks,

689
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:52,360
Speaker 3: Rory DJ and yeah, you know anybody else right now?

690
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 2: Tiger? You know right, everybody's watching right last year of

691
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 2: the Skins Game? Can you eight who who's in the

692
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 2: Who's in the Skins Game?

693
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,919
Speaker 3: God? Uh eight?

694
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 2: Tiger Nope, Yeah, I think he kind of I think

695
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 2: four was his last year. Oh five oh five, It

696
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 2: was like too.

697
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 3: Small time for him at that point. God, Stuart Sink,

698
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:29,880
Speaker 3: David uh two thousand and eight, Trevor Immelman, I have

699
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 3: no idea who's in it?

700
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:40,240
Speaker 2: kJ Choy all right, Steve Hammer, Hammer Drill, Stephen, Stephen Ames.

701
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 2: Oh no, wonder it died.

702
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 3: I don't blame the economic collapse, title sponsorship, Rocco, God.

703
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:55,760
Speaker 2: And Phil. I mean there's an article in eight from

704
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 2: Rocco being like shocked that he was invited.

705
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 3: Was this after? I mean so this was probably after? Yeah?

706
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 2: So so what the event has obviously struggled?

707
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 3: Who's like locking in for that? I mean I have

708
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 3: a golf nut. I don't know that I would, all.

709
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 2: Right, So Choy one the last four winners of the

710
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 2: Skins game, so choice one, Stephen asking me Steven Ames

711
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 2: was going for the three peat that year, so he

712
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:37,359
Speaker 2: won before and then the year before that, Fred funk one.

713
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 3: So it really lost its luster.

714
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 2: It plummeted.

715
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 3: H that's that. I mean, that's terrible, all right.

716
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 2: But we're going back to two thousands.

717
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 1: Are we?

718
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 3: Are we not giving Steven Ames enough credit? Was he

719
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 3: like awesome or something that I meant? How was he

720
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 3: getting the inut I know, he's probably better than we

721
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 3: recall he was.

722
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 2: He's really good. He was really good in the mid

723
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 2: two thousands. You know who was who was in the

724
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 2: seven one? Who's that Brett Whaterick.

725
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 3: What's interesting is you're naming all these guys whose careers

726
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 3: have been reduced down to these like ignominious moments like

727
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 3: nine and eight. For Ames, rhetoric is just like this

728
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:33,399
Speaker 3: punching bag for ten years of Ryder Cup. You know, ineptitude.

729
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 3: He's just like the poster boys, all these guys.

730
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Sorry, I flashback is O one, but okay,

731
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 2: the we have to we have to go back to

732
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 2: eighty three for a quick moment, Okay. Tom Watson accused

733
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:54,240
Speaker 2: Gary Player of cheating.

734
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 3: Shit really?

735
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, So there's one hundred and twenty grand on

736
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 2: the line on the sixteenth hole and Wasson was overheard

737
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:11,879
Speaker 2: confronting Player about improving his lie padding down a route

738
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 2: behind the ball, and this is what Dave Anderson wrote.

739
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 2: From thirty feet away, Tom Watson could be heard saying,

740
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 2: I'm accusing you, Gary. You can't do that. I'm tired

741
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,720
Speaker 2: of this. I wasn't watching you, but I saw it. Gary.

742
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,439
Speaker 2: Player could be heard defending himself saying, at one point

743
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 2: I was within the rules. Wasson maintained his belief that

744
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 2: player knowingly or unknowingly cheated, and issued a statement the

745
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 2: following day that set in part, if we overlook the rules,

746
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 2: then the game as we know it would become something

747
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 2: much less than it is. My greatest regret, though, is

748
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,320
Speaker 2: that this private matter became a public incident.

749
00:44:56,360 --> 00:45:03,919
Speaker 3: Wow, that's amazing. Player has a handful of I don't

750
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:08,839
Speaker 3: know if it's cheating, but just different confrontations with players, right,

751
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 3: common thing. Tom Watson does too. I mean, but he's

752
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 3: more because he's a red ass. You know, can be

753
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 3: a red ass. So interesting out and out accusations now that,

754
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,879
Speaker 3: in the age of Twitter nowadays, would just that would be.

755
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,680
Speaker 2: A five alarm fire. Oh my god, what if we

756
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,800
Speaker 2: got that? What if did we get that with Kosher?

757
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:38,760
Speaker 2: This year? It Sergia with the with the lie, the

758
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 2: asking for a drop than betted ball. Yeah sort of yes,

759
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 2: but that wasn't even like another player in like a

760
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 2: kind of head to head type deal.

761
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 3: I don't know, but yeah, go.

762
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 2: Ahead, you want to go back to two thousand and one,

763
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:56,160
Speaker 2: I do.

764
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 3: Let's take let's go there. This Wi fi is killing me.

765
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,319
Speaker 2: Do you know who was in two thousand and one

766
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 2: Skins game Tiger? Tiger was Sergio No No Sergio.

767
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 3: Westy No West. He'd probably never been to America at

768
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 3: that point.

769
00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 2: Mountain dew Boy, mount Tea.

770
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:24,360
Speaker 3: Oh there you go, yes for Okay, Okay.

771
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 2: And Greg and Greg Norman.

772
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 3: Wow, that's a that's a solid lineup compared to some

773
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 3: of the ones we're just talking about.

774
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:34,359
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, good one, really good.

775
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 3: That's where yes, we're set up. Tiger with Elon could have.

776
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:41,560
Speaker 2: Been Actually this is when they were Buddy Buddy, Yeah,

777
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 2: liften and ile Worth. So uh, this was the the

778
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 2: single biggest win in Skins game history.

779
00:46:51,640 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 3: Okay.

780
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 2: So there was a new rule, first time use of

781
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 2: a rule enacted in two thousand and one, and this

782
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 2: is a role that many people that play Skins around

783
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 2: the country, many of our listeners will will will know.

784
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:15,280
Speaker 2: They put in validation. There hadn't been that, there hadn't

785
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 2: there's this is the only year that validation was used.

786
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 3: Wow.

787
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 2: So players had to at least tie the low score

788
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 2: on the next hole to win the skin, and the

789
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 2: skins game was over two days, so it was a

790
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 2: Saturday Sunday affair. So you did nine on Saturday, nine

791
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 2: on Sunday.

792
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 3: Oh okay. Interesting.

793
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 2: So leaning up to the event Woods, I think it's

794
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 2: a great format, Norman, I'm sure it's a sound format.

795
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 2: I think the ratings will show that. You think the

796
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 2: chance seventy to eighty percent that were walking down the

797
00:47:56,160 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 2: eighteenth fairway for all the marbles. So Saturday goes by

798
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:09,359
Speaker 2: and nobody wins the skin. Not one person wins.

799
00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 3: The skin, not exactly it.

800
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:16,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, so tiger Tiger Bertie's the first hole, his skin

801
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:22,240
Speaker 2: gets cut by Norman on two, makes birdie. Norman's birdie

802
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 2: on the second hole is cut by Manti, who makes

803
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 2: Bertie on three. Manty I think he, I think he

804
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 2: didn't somebody else Birdy four. Monty wins five with a birdie,

805
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,720
Speaker 2: but then he bogied six, losing again.

806
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:43,560
Speaker 3: Oh so that's where okay, okay.

807
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 2: So then it's like just a par festal nine. So

808
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 2: Thomas Bonk, who was the La Times golf writer, remarked

809
00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 2: that the most memorable thing from day one was Yesper

810
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 2: Parnovic's sweater that looked like a tic tac toe aboard.

811
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 2: He also he also said that the front nine of

812
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 2: the Skins game made the Battle of Bighorn look like

813
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 2: master Sunday.

814
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 3: Oh shit, do we know where this was? Where was this?

815
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:21,240
Speaker 2: The west coast, the desert? It was that I forgot.

816
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 2: I didn't write down the name of the course. There

817
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 2: was a landmark, landmark. Okay, So Sunday they come back

818
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 2: Sunday and it's just like no Skins anywhere, and like

819
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,880
Speaker 2: they've set this place up for birdies. Sure, and the

820
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:44,720
Speaker 2: guys make like two birdies through the first five holes

821
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 2: of the day. Parnavic finally birdies sixteen, ending a stretch

822
00:49:50,560 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 2: from whole six to fifteen where nobody wont a skin

823
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 2: even before validation.

824
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 3: This would not be good for Sunday night. Monday, just

825
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 3: a nightmare. I mean, it's already middle of the night here.

826
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 3: That's gonna be tough.

827
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 2: So then Greg Norman cuts Parnavik on seventeen with a birdie.

828
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 2: Parnavik makes par doesn't win the skin Norman. Norman just

829
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:23,279
Speaker 2: takes seven hundred and thirty thousand right from him. And

830
00:50:23,320 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 2: then on eighteen, so Norman still has to validate right

831
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 2: short par five eighteen woods in Manti both rinse It

832
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 2: Parnavik hits in the bunker, Norman hits in the bunker

833
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 2: and uh and Parnavik like just makes a mess of it.

834
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,320
Speaker 2: Norman just like lays it up out of the bunkers

835
00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 2: twenty feet and makes par to win eight hundred thousand.

836
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 2: So then they then they go to like the playoff

837
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 2: for the rest of an additional two hundred k and

838
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 2: Norman wins that too, So he won all million dollar

839
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 2: dollars at Steak in.

840
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 3: Like the last forty minutes or whatever it was, so.

841
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 2: The biggest win of all time. Fred Funk won like

842
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 2: nine hundred and thirty thousand, but Norman won a million.

843
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:12,720
Speaker 2: But like the crazy thing, they're playing for three hundred

844
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 2: thousand on Monday.

845
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:16,279
Speaker 3: Yeah this year.

846
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,320
Speaker 2: They're playing for a million in two thousand and one.

847
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:23,080
Speaker 3: Which makes you wonder what those appearance fees are. Those

848
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 3: got to be pretty substantial to get him in the door.

849
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 3: It's just a missed opportunity in my opinion, with Jason Day,

850
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 3: you know, you gotta have a Decky Rory Tiger.

851
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 2: I just I don't know, maybe everybody said no, I

852
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:43,279
Speaker 2: guess sure, sure, I'm sure they asked Rick.

853
00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,759
Speaker 3: Yesper Parnavic's hat. You know, he had to flipped up

854
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:52,280
Speaker 3: bill from that. Oh yeah, sponsored by Upper Deck.

855
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, trading cards. Yeah, I wish I had some PGA

856
00:51:58,600 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 2: Tour trading cards.

857
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 3: Did you have some of those Upper Deck Tour cards?

858
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 2: Did not?

859
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 3: Did you? I had a few, but I don't know

860
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 3: where they are now.

861
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 2: I had baseball cards and basketball cards sure, sure, not

862
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:21,320
Speaker 2: golf cards. No, they could bring it back. So Tiger

863
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 2: made no birdies on.

864
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:25,240
Speaker 3: The back nine, just the whole Sunday.

865
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and uh, I mean this is two thousand and

866
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 2: one Tiger.

867
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

868
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 2: Next and he signed, he was he was on with

869
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 2: he had some deal with Disney. So he was in

870
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 2: I think the next five or four, okay, for the

871
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 2: next five. I think it was like ABC, right, Yeah,

872
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 2: I feel like it started on NBC. Big Peacock got

873
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 2: rid of.

874
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 3: It though, sure, but the Disney deal was probably AB.

875
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:53,800
Speaker 3: It was like Primetime ABC or something.

876
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 2: Yeah. So he so the next year, the validation rule

877
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 2: is gone and it's Thomas Bank again. He was like

878
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 2: the Skins game beat guy. He was. He was like,

879
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 2: it's all because of one player, not liking it Tiger.

880
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 2: He said, I don't think anyone understood what was going on,

881
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:17,320
Speaker 2: even though.

882
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:21,399
Speaker 3: The year before he said it was a great format. Ah,

883
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 3: so you have receipts, You have the receipts.

884
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, so one year it's a great format. Next year

885
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 2: nobody knew what was going on. I don't think validation

886
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 2: is that difficult. I think everybody. I think thousands of

887
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:37,920
Speaker 2: players play it every Saturday Sunday and understand what's going on.

888
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 2: Thousands of players have played far less golf than than

889
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 2: these pros.

890
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 3: It is, it is pretty pretty standard.

891
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:50,240
Speaker 2: Just just goes to show you don't take what pros

892
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:53,520
Speaker 2: say with a grain of sault because when the when

893
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 2: the money comes blown, they'll change their directions.

894
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:04,439
Speaker 3: It's true. Yeah, you see that with equipment quite a bit.

895
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 3: This is the game. Rules changes equipment. It's all a

896
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 3: matter of circumstance. The stance. Stances are fluid in golf.

897
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Skins game.

898
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 3: Good flashback. I enjoyed that. It's a good one night. Well,

899
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:28,440
Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to whatever it is Sunday night, Monday morning.

900
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 2: I don't think I'm going to watch it.

901
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's chan or global audience, not how many watching

902
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 3: it's on Golf Channel in mistake.

903
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 2: Okay, maybe I'll watch it then.

904
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:46,480
Speaker 3: Yeah. By the way, oh, follow up our worst for

905
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 3: the Wednesday worst slogan ever.

906
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 2: I got.

907
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 3: I've got a lot of got a lot of nominees

908
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:59,759
Speaker 3: for the Big twelves. One true Champion coming out with

909
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 3: that slogan the exact year that TCU and Baylor tied

910
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 3: and they had no conference championship. I think that's that's

911
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 3: gonna be the winner. That's bad. Somebody sent us the

912
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 3: ACC Networks. The ACC Networks slogan right now is something horrible.

913
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 3: It's like we are so I don't know it's something terrible,

914
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 3: but yeah, once true Champion. Worst slogan not worse than

915
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 3: Live over, Live under par shall be for the foreseeable

916
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 3: future Number one, right, Yeah, in the non love division.

917
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:42,919
Speaker 3: All right, Uh so that covers it. Feeling good, Ready

918
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 3: to get get on with your Friday.

919
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 2: I'm ready to get on. I'm feeling good.

920
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 3: His Wi Fi kind of nuked me.

921
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:50,840
Speaker 2: I know it's been.

922
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:59,839
Speaker 3: Ninety minutes in brutally cold soccer conditions. Crush Hey.

923
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:04,799
Speaker 2: Curtis Thompson won the Minor League Tour. Oh the week, Yeah,

924
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 2: two day Qualifying School second stage.

925
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 3: Just now, fantastic good.

926
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 2: Gavin Hall was in the field too. Objay finished tenth,

927
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 2: good Cam Young finished tenth.

928
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 3: All right, well, everyone, enjoy your Fridays. We will be

929
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 3: back I think Sunday, late Sunday maybe, I don't know.

930
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 3: We're probably not gonna be able to cover the Skins

931
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 3: game for Monday morning. Episode would be my guest. We'd

932
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 3: have to record at what four in the morning.

933
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 2: I don't know. You got you got golf channel stuff.

934
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, yeah, So we'll keep an eye out, we'll

935
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 3: tweet out something and then we'll eventually get back to

936
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:47,640
Speaker 3: Troy Merritt, jazz, Gina Wana on, I.

937
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 2: Got some jazz jazzy jay stuff.

938
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 3: All right, enjoy your weekends. We will check in with

939
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 3: you on Monday.

940
00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:08,240
Speaker 2: Fortuns PROD for the Fatal Past and st