WEBVTT - NBA Weekend Winners & Losers | When Will Steph Pass Ray On NBA's All-Time 3PM List? 0:00:04.760 --> 0:00:05.400 A luxury. 0:00:05.440 --> 0:00:10.280 You can't live without a luxury. I can't live without coffee. 0:00:10.640 --> 0:00:11.400 I really like it. 0:00:11.760 --> 0:00:12.320 A luxury. 0:00:12.360 --> 0:00:13.280 You can get it anywhere. 0:00:14.320 --> 0:00:16.400 I guess yeah, I like good coffee. 0:00:16.800 --> 0:00:17.560 I love coffee. 0:00:18.000 --> 0:00:18.919 I like my socks. 0:00:19.480 --> 0:00:23.239 Socks. Your socks would you put in your shoes? 0:00:23.360 --> 0:00:24.400 Yeah, I really love them. 0:00:24.440 --> 0:00:26.800 I like kind of like, you know, cozy feet. 0:00:27.600 --> 0:00:29.000 You're attracting to yourself. 0:00:29.120 --> 0:00:31.520 I'm attracted to really nice running socks, like I'm always 0:00:31.520 --> 0:00:34.800 looking for good running. That's not a luxury, though. Coffee 0:00:34.840 --> 0:00:37.519 and socks not a luxury. Give me a luxury. What 0:00:37.600 --> 0:00:42.200 luxury should I have? Private plane? Larry, I'm on Ducktails. 0:00:50.840 --> 0:00:55.440 Good Mornings, superld the Welcome to the Now Dunks podcast 0:00:55.560 --> 0:01:00.080 on the Athletic Network. It's Monday, January twenty fifth. E 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:03.160 Skeets rolling this morning with mister what you need to Know, 0:01:03.240 --> 0:01:05.880 tast Mellie. Hey everybody, Hey Tassy, we got the bass 0:01:05.920 --> 0:01:10.760 Master ripping them lips. Trey Kirby, Hey, hey yo, the 0:01:10.800 --> 0:01:14.039 international Man of Mystery taking it to the max, giggling 0:01:14.080 --> 0:01:15.960 from that cold open Lee Ellis. 0:01:16.120 --> 0:01:19.000 That was hilarious, wasn't it? 0:01:19.040 --> 0:01:22.759 At last, but not least making the magic happen is JD. Hello, 0:01:23.280 --> 0:01:26.000 there is and here we are before we get into it. 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:29.800 Sorry about the bills, they are tassy. It looked good 0:01:29.840 --> 0:01:31.319 for I don't know, five minutes. 0:01:32.800 --> 0:01:35.880 It's a better storyline Mahomes versus Brady, isn't it? The 0:01:36.040 --> 0:01:38.919 next one versus the one that's supposed to be gone. 0:01:39.959 --> 0:01:41.080 It's pretty incredible. 0:01:41.520 --> 0:01:44.520 It's unreal. You saw the stat I'm sure going around 0:01:44.600 --> 0:01:49.960 last night. No, No, Tom is in well now being 0:01:49.960 --> 0:01:53.160 a have appeared in eighteen percent of all Super Bowls 0:01:53.880 --> 0:01:59.760 because he's going to his stupid, stupid, ridiculous Bucks Cheese super. 0:02:00.200 --> 0:02:02.400 Hope the Raptors get some tickets because it's down there 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:04.400 in Tampa where they're playing. That's all I care. 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:05.840 But well, I hadn't thought of it that. 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So that's what the Athletic does. 0:03:51.720 --> 0:03:53.240 It gives you a little taste of everything. 0:03:53.520 --> 0:03:56.680 Awesome. How's the cricket coverage on the Athletic. 0:03:57.480 --> 0:04:02.560 Scars, I would say, Scars write some articles or. 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:03.160 Something like that. 0:04:03.280 --> 0:04:06.280 I may have to do that. Yes, yes, so. 0:04:06.280 --> 0:04:09.720 The Athletic it's awesome unless you're a cricket fan. For now. 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:12.760 For now, did you get. 0:04:12.600 --> 0:04:14.160 In the graft that was going around the other day 0:04:14.160 --> 0:04:17.040 about the most you know, sports with the biggest audience. 0:04:17.480 --> 0:04:18.000 No, I didn't. 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:20.560 Soccer was obviously number one. Guess what was number two? 0:04:20.760 --> 0:04:23.160 Tom Brady. 0:04:24.040 --> 0:04:24.440 Cricket. 0:04:24.520 --> 0:04:28.039 Cricket, Yeah, cricket. There's a market there. Maybe I should 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:29.520 get back into the cricket guy. 0:04:29.720 --> 0:04:30.679 Get that music ready? 0:04:30.800 --> 0:04:34.279 Oh you could, uh yeah, you could start like a 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:41.360 cricket show or article called hand Ice Lee Ellis cricket 0:04:43.560 --> 0:04:47.080 cut the cricket story from Lee a couple of weeks ago, 0:04:47.160 --> 0:04:51.039 probably who knows. Yeah, Okay, so Monday having some fun 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:53.680 already here we do NBA weekend winners and losers. Let's 0:04:53.680 --> 0:04:55.680 start with the winners here on Monday task. Why do 0:04:55.760 --> 0:04:58.920 you get it started? Who's your big NBA winner of 0:04:58.960 --> 0:04:59.400 the weekend? 0:05:00.320 --> 0:05:03.000 Well, it's Steph Curry because he almost has a record 0:05:03.040 --> 0:05:06.920 that definitely belongs to him. Only Ray Allen now has 0:05:06.960 --> 0:05:09.400 more threes made than Steph. Because it was a very 0:05:09.480 --> 0:05:13.239 nice moment on Saturday night when he tied Reggie Miller 0:05:13.520 --> 0:05:15.520 with his four to three and he threw up the 0:05:15.560 --> 0:05:18.640 thirty one for Reg. Respect to Reg because he loved 0:05:18.680 --> 0:05:20.760 him as a kid going up against Dell Hiss Dad 0:05:21.400 --> 0:05:25.720 and it's fitting. The next one that he hit was 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:29.160 a very Reggie like three moving off the ball. It's 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:32.440 just trademark Steph. When he passed Reggie Miller, gave up 0:05:32.480 --> 0:05:34.520 the ball to Draymond and then flew to the corner 0:05:34.920 --> 0:05:37.760 and hit it and now has you know, just a 0:05:37.760 --> 0:05:40.200 few more hundred to go, which which sounds like a 0:05:40.200 --> 0:05:42.440 lot to catch up to Ray Allen, but for him, 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:45.840 it's absolutely nothing. And not only is he going to 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:49.600 catch ray Allen next season, but after he gets to 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:52.240 twenty nine to seventy three, he's only going to be 0:05:52.279 --> 0:05:54.200 thirty three or he's going to be thirty four years 0:05:54.200 --> 0:05:56.440 of age. So he can pad that number because that 0:05:57.000 --> 0:06:00.240 record belongs to him and he should have to have 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:04.080 it by hundreds and hundreds and hundreds, and so this 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:08.240 is it's a nice time to celebrate Steph because you know, 0:06:08.360 --> 0:06:11.440 he's just kind of he's kind of battered around the 0:06:11.480 --> 0:06:14.080 Twitter sphere at times, right because he you know, he's 0:06:14.200 --> 0:06:17.359 thrown into the hay. He didn't win, you know, only 0:06:17.400 --> 0:06:20.480 one without KD and all that. So I just want 0:06:20.560 --> 0:06:23.520 him to have this title that is most definitely his. 0:06:24.040 --> 0:06:26.599 And I love this chart from Kirk Goldsberry that was 0:06:26.640 --> 0:06:30.880 going around. That shows that Steph Curry, among all guys 0:06:30.880 --> 0:06:34.359 who have hit one thousand three pointers, Steph Curry the 0:06:34.400 --> 0:06:38.279 most efficient of all of them. So he's number two 0:06:38.279 --> 0:06:41.279 in mad threes, but he's number one in efficiency, and 0:06:41.320 --> 0:06:44.320 that's what makes him so special. He's going to be 0:06:44.440 --> 0:06:46.960 the guy who gets you the most points per possession 0:06:47.279 --> 0:06:49.839 in the history of the league at some point. So 0:06:51.160 --> 0:06:52.800 you know, you see iverson way at the bottom, the 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:55.360 least efficient, and Stuff's going to be at the absolute 0:06:55.440 --> 0:06:59.240 opposite end, which is crazy that he shoots a percentage 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:03.760 like Kyle but even better than Kyle Korver. So it's 0:07:04.200 --> 0:07:06.000 you know, that's that's the numbers part of the game. 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:08.440 And that's why I think he isn't celebrated as much 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:13.040 as some of the dominant players in NBA history is 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:15.360 just because you know, it's it is a little bit 0:07:15.360 --> 0:07:18.120 more about analytics and so it's a little less sexy. 0:07:18.840 --> 0:07:21.360 But it was a nice moment to see him celebrate 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:24.000 reg And then after the game, Reggie joined the Zoom 0:07:24.040 --> 0:07:27.080 call with his son Riker talked to staff a little 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:29.600 bit and uh, yeah, I learned a new name. I 0:07:29.600 --> 0:07:32.280 didn't know that kids could be named Riker or I've 0:07:32.280 --> 0:07:33.960 never I've just never heard the name. So that was 0:07:34.000 --> 0:07:35.480 cool for me. That was great, and it was a 0:07:35.480 --> 0:07:36.000 great moment. 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:36.480 Lee. 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:39.520 One of your like famous predictions, I would say, over 0:07:39.560 --> 0:07:41.680 the course of this show, back when we were the starters, 0:07:41.800 --> 0:07:44.160 grab me if I'm wrong, but you predicted that Curry 0:07:44.200 --> 0:07:47.000 would be a guy to hit four hundred threes once 0:07:47.800 --> 0:07:49.600 in a season. I remember we were like, there's no 0:07:49.680 --> 0:07:51.760 way because it was talk like three hundred and stuff 0:07:51.760 --> 0:07:53.600 like that. You're like, I think you do four hundred. 0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:56.760 I was like, no, that's wrong. I actually predicted three 0:07:56.840 --> 0:07:58.640 hundred because no one had even done three hundred. 0:07:58.760 --> 0:08:00.320 Oh, okay, okay, And then he went and did. 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:03.200 Four hundred and he smashed that. He smashed it because 0:08:03.240 --> 0:08:04.960 I think on the show I predicted three hundred and 0:08:05.000 --> 0:08:07.200 fifteen and I think his record prior to that was 0:08:07.240 --> 0:08:09.880 around two hundred and eighty five or something, and I 0:08:09.880 --> 0:08:11.280 was like, he's going to break three hundred, He's going 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:14.200 to go three fifteen. And then after about five games 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:15.880 into the season, he was on track for about three 0:08:15.960 --> 0:08:17.760 hundred and ninety or four hundred, and I thought, oh 0:08:17.800 --> 0:08:19.520 my god, he's going to like blitz this. But you 0:08:19.600 --> 0:08:21.440 just sort of felt he's going to come back to 0:08:21.440 --> 0:08:23.320 Worth at some point. No one can smash a record 0:08:23.320 --> 0:08:24.880 that no one's even made three hundred, no one's going 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:26.760 to make four hundred and one season, and he went 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:28.840 out and did that and did that pretty easily. He 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:30.760 also missed a couple of games to that season, but 0:08:30.800 --> 0:08:33.720 he needed I believe he needed six on the last 0:08:33.800 --> 0:08:35.640 night of the season against the Grizzlies, and he ended 0:08:35.720 --> 0:08:37.200 up hitting eight. I think he had five in the 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:39.960 first half as well. So once he got to that point. 0:08:39.960 --> 0:08:41.600 Of course, that was the seventy three and nine season. 0:08:41.600 --> 0:08:43.640 That was Kobe's last regular season game, as well as 0:08:43.679 --> 0:08:46.040 so much going on. But Steph went out there and 0:08:46.320 --> 0:08:49.719 set a record that hasn't been broken yet, but it 0:08:49.760 --> 0:08:51.760 will be broken one day. I think four hundred threes 0:08:51.800 --> 0:08:53.720 in a season, it's just a matter of time before 0:08:53.720 --> 0:08:57.120 someone comes along and does that. And you know, it 0:08:57.200 --> 0:08:59.760 seems it seems like at the time that record is like, wow, 0:08:59.800 --> 0:09:02.160 that's out of reach. But the way guys shoot threes 0:09:02.240 --> 0:09:04.760 these days, I can see someone maybe hitting five or 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:06.640 six hundred in the season at some point down the track. 0:09:06.679 --> 0:09:09.280 Made not for a few years, but guys just come 0:09:09.280 --> 0:09:12.600 into league these days, just firing away. So that's what's 0:09:12.600 --> 0:09:13.040 going to happen. 0:09:13.160 --> 0:09:14.679 Well, the reason I brought it up is I wanted 0:09:14.720 --> 0:09:16.720 you to tell us how many three is Steph Cree 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:18.600 will end his basketball career with. 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:21.079 Well, I'm glad you asked that's Steve as kids, because 0:09:21.280 --> 0:09:25.880 I actually I've actually been I've actually done well, I've 0:09:25.920 --> 0:09:28.880 done the projected how many threes I think he's going 0:09:28.920 --> 0:09:32.120 to make from this point on? Roughly? Okay, I think 0:09:32.160 --> 0:09:34.760 he's got seven seasons left in him where he's going 0:09:34.840 --> 0:09:37.920 to be about thirty nine. I've roughed it, averaged it 0:09:37.920 --> 0:09:40.840 out to be about seventy five games per seven seasons 0:09:40.880 --> 0:09:42.920 at three and a half threes per game. So I 0:09:42.960 --> 0:09:46.880 think he's got another eighteen hundred threese left in him. Wow, 0:09:47.000 --> 0:09:51.160 starting now, eighteen hundred regular season threes. Yes, yes, So 0:09:52.760 --> 0:09:55.760 I don't have the record here, but yeah, So he 0:09:55.880 --> 0:09:58.520 just passed Ray Allen. He's just passed Reggie Miller. He's 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:00.240 got four hundred to get Ray Allen. So I think 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:03.080 he's going to be around fifteen hundred ahead of rayl 0:10:03.120 --> 0:10:05.560 and about four and a half thousand threes when his 0:10:05.679 --> 0:10:06.520 career is done. 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:09.800 Okay, calling it four thousand, five hundred and made threes. 0:10:09.960 --> 0:10:12.079 Yeah, I think so, because I mean he's going to 0:10:12.120 --> 0:10:14.679 become you know, guys like him become a better shooter 0:10:14.720 --> 0:10:16.920 as they get older. But of course he's not going 0:10:17.000 --> 0:10:18.559 to play as heavy minutes, but he's still going to 0:10:18.600 --> 0:10:20.440 be able to hit those threes. So I think that's 0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:22.840 a reasonable sort of target. He can make eighteen hundred, 0:10:23.840 --> 0:10:26.040 you know, seventy five games a season for seven seasons. 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:26.840 I think that's him play. 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:29.760 So yeah, and then the question will be can anyone 0:10:29.840 --> 0:10:32.040 catch him? Tray like, you know, can a Trey Young 0:10:32.160 --> 0:10:34.959 moving forward, like, you know, fifteen years down the line, 0:10:35.800 --> 0:10:37.840 you know, flirt with something like over four thousand mad 0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:39.520 threes or something like that wherever Curry ends up. 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:43.200 Yeah, the question to me is not can somebody catch him? 0:10:43.240 --> 0:10:45.520 How soon will somebody catch him? Because, like lie saying, 0:10:45.600 --> 0:10:49.040 people come in chucking nowadays, it took Steph Curry a 0:10:49.080 --> 0:10:51.880 few seasons before he was the fire thrower we know, 0:10:52.240 --> 0:10:54.160 and who's ready to just pull up from half court. 0:10:54.320 --> 0:10:56.200 You know, it took a while till anybody had the 0:10:56.200 --> 0:10:58.320 confidence to do that. But now you see Trey Young 0:10:58.360 --> 0:11:01.480 come in doing it. His rookie year. So yeah, I 0:11:01.480 --> 0:11:04.320 think it'll happen eventually. It'll be basically ten years after 0:11:04.400 --> 0:11:06.600 Ray or wait, I guess that seven years after Ray 0:11:06.600 --> 0:11:10.520 Allen retired. He retired, like nine years after Reggie Miller retired. 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:13.199 In the next decade, will somebody pass Steph Curry? Will 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:15.079 we have to wait until his son makes it to 0:11:15.120 --> 0:11:17.400 the NBA. And he's the greatest three point shooter of 0:11:17.400 --> 0:11:19.679 all time. That's how it seems to go. Dell Curry 0:11:19.760 --> 0:11:21.720 was one of the best of all time. Now Steph 0:11:21.800 --> 0:11:24.360 Curry is the best of all time. What's the third 0:11:24.440 --> 0:11:27.920 generation gonna be the third three point shooter? We're talking 0:11:27.960 --> 0:11:30.720 about eight nine a game, like Li saying maybe five 0:11:30.760 --> 0:11:31.880 hundred and six hundred a season. 0:11:32.440 --> 0:11:35.679 Incredible, So congrats to Curry. Yeah, eclipsing Reggie Miller. That 0:11:35.880 --> 0:11:37.559 was a cool moment. By the way, we should slip 0:11:37.559 --> 0:11:39.480 in there. The Jazz won that game, right, Tassie and 0:11:39.679 --> 0:11:41.800 continue to get their win streak up to eight. I know, 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:43.600 Jazz fans, come on, why we won the game? We 0:11:43.640 --> 0:11:45.400 won the game? Yep, you won the game. You Tod 0:11:45.440 --> 0:11:47.680 Jess continuing to play great basketball. We talked about them 0:11:47.760 --> 0:11:49.680 at the end of last week and they were you know, 0:11:49.679 --> 0:11:51.720 a little many of the mini winner of the weekend 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:53.920 for sure, them continuing to keep the streak going them 0:11:53.920 --> 0:11:56.199 and the Clippers are on a nice winning streak right now. Okay, 0:11:56.200 --> 0:11:58.480 so Curry, he gets one lee. Where are you going man? 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:02.400 Well skeeze, I'm going with your Raptors yesterday? Can one 0:12:02.520 --> 0:12:06.760 single game make you a winner of the weekend? What 0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:09.120 an incredible performance because the Raptors went into this one 0:12:09.160 --> 0:12:11.880 shorthanded two of their starters not playing here, Pascal and 0:12:11.920 --> 0:12:15.640 Kyle Lowry. So this was actually sort of in Nick 0:12:15.720 --> 0:12:17.800 Nurse's playbook. Here he had to call on some of 0:12:17.800 --> 0:12:19.640 the guys who don't play as many minutes to go 0:12:19.679 --> 0:12:21.720 out there and play heavy minutes, and they pretty much 0:12:21.760 --> 0:12:24.440 all delivered. I thought og Ananobi maybe had his best 0:12:24.480 --> 0:12:26.960 game ever as a Raptor. He was fantastic on both 0:12:27.000 --> 0:12:29.960 ends of floor, hitting three's, playing great defense, super efficient, 0:12:30.280 --> 0:12:32.400 but when the game had to be won, it came 0:12:32.440 --> 0:12:35.920 down to free throws and defense. Fred van Vliet especially, 0:12:36.000 --> 0:12:38.600 his defense is stoped on Malcolm Brogden at the end there. 0:12:38.679 --> 0:12:41.079 I've watched this over and over and over again, and 0:12:41.720 --> 0:12:44.160 it looks like he gets his hand all over Brogden's 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:46.600 sort of arm hand wrist area, but nothing was called 0:12:46.600 --> 0:12:50.040 and no one from the Pacers complained, so it's like 0:12:50.120 --> 0:12:52.240 they were like, he didn't found me. That was just 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:56.679 incredible defense. And then on the next possession, the Raptors 0:12:56.720 --> 0:13:02.319 defense inside Stanley Johnson and boucheting de Monte Sabonis at 0:13:02.320 --> 0:13:04.360 the rim like he could not even get a shot off, 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:06.080 which was incredible. Well he got the shot off, of course, 0:13:06.120 --> 0:13:09.600 but they contested it. Just incredible stuff. And the Raptors, 0:13:09.880 --> 0:13:11.960 who have started to play a lot better basketball too 0:13:12.000 --> 0:13:14.840 after their very slow start, got it together. But what 0:13:14.920 --> 0:13:17.240 a great performance. Norm Power was very good yesterday fred 0:13:17.400 --> 0:13:19.520 as I mentioned. I mean, he's been great for most 0:13:19.559 --> 0:13:23.520 of this season, but OG's stepping up there and just 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:26.120 giving the Raptors a very very important win. They can 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:28.200 face the Paces again here tonight, but you know, when 0:13:28.240 --> 0:13:30.320 you lose two starters and for a team that's desperate 0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:31.760 for wins to go out and get that sort of 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:34.000 a victory against a team that's just very hard to 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:36.319 play against in the Indiana Paces, I thought was excellent, 0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:38.720 and I just thought that was I think I think 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:40.360 a lot of the result for this was from Nick 0:13:40.440 --> 0:13:43.200 Nurse's coaching record there with the Raptors isn't that he 0:13:43.280 --> 0:13:45.920 does trust those guys even if they don't play heavy minutes. 0:13:45.920 --> 0:13:48.240 DeAndre Bembery played the most minutes he's ever played as 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:50.520 a rapt yesterday, and he came out and delivered. You know, 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:52.640 he's not out there scoring and shooting the ball out 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:55.320 that much, but playing the right way and the offense 0:13:55.320 --> 0:13:57.840 and setting up guys. And I think that just shows 0:13:57.840 --> 0:14:00.560 that Nick Nurse, when you're on his team, it's like 0:14:00.920 --> 0:14:02.800 you will get an opportunity. I don't know when, I 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:04.839 don't know how, but when you get that opportunity, I'm 0:14:04.840 --> 0:14:06.400 going to put trust in you to go out there 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:08.400 and perform. And I thought that's what they did. So 0:14:08.480 --> 0:14:09.920 I think this is a very good sign for the 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:13.160 Raptors that they are starting to get it together and 0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:15.360 toughing out these wins. Earlier in the season, these were 0:14:15.360 --> 0:14:17.880 the sort of games that they would lose, but instead 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:20.160 they're on the right side of the victory. Here. Great 0:14:20.200 --> 0:14:23.280 great game, great performance, and really they closed down to 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:25.520 Mantess Bonus in that second half as well. I mean, 0:14:25.720 --> 0:14:28.080 he had one of his worst offensive games of the season. 0:14:28.480 --> 0:14:30.480 Just thought it was a great all round performance from 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:31.000 the Raptors. 0:14:31.160 --> 0:14:33.240 Yeah, Raps now five and one since starting two and 0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:36.480 eight and tass you know on football Sunday there. This 0:14:36.600 --> 0:14:38.800 was the rare like one o'clock start, so there was 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:41.320 nothing happening yet, none of the football games had started. 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:42.880 So maybe if some my balls were on this one 0:14:42.880 --> 0:14:45.680 between two pretty good teams obviously, and like lisaid, Raps, 0:14:45.920 --> 0:14:47.720 Raps pulled it out. How are you feeling as a 0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:51.840 Raps fan, you know, with this team rebounding after a 0:14:51.880 --> 0:14:55.280 brutal start as we talked about a couple of weeks ago. 0:14:55.200 --> 0:14:57.840 Well, I feel good to have Nick Nurse in my 0:14:58.000 --> 0:15:01.160 corner because what he did to my Sabonis there, just 0:15:01.200 --> 0:15:03.680 taking him out of the game was the key to 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:06.680 this one. That's that's Nick Nurse's m o. You see 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:09.120 a star on the other side, make everybody else beat you. 0:15:09.360 --> 0:15:12.760 And oj Anonobi he was the one and one a 0:15:12.960 --> 0:15:15.520 defender on him, but they kept doubling Sabonis and Sabonis 0:15:15.560 --> 0:15:17.720 just wasn't ready for all that. And so when he 0:15:17.760 --> 0:15:19.600 was blocked twice at the end of the game, you 0:15:19.600 --> 0:15:22.640 could see him shaking those beautiful locks, like what how 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:26.560 how did this happen. He was just he was, he 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:29.280 was He just couldn't believe the forty eight minutes that 0:15:29.320 --> 0:15:32.160 preceded that. So Nurse really threw him off. They took 0:15:32.200 --> 0:15:37.000 away Brogden's right hand, and they're just ready, Nick, Nurse 0:15:37.080 --> 0:15:39.440 is ready. Yeah, and how he has everybody up and 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:42.760 down that roster. Yeah, they're feeling, they're feeling like they 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:46.480 can get to five hundred one day. And that's in 0:15:46.520 --> 0:15:50.040 the Eastern Conference. There's a billion teams, you know, six 0:15:50.160 --> 0:15:53.360 through thirteen. Well, I guess there's not a billion, but 0:15:54.200 --> 0:15:57.600 you know there's there's there's eight teams right there, six 0:15:57.640 --> 0:16:01.920 through thirteen that if anybody wants to make a move, 0:16:02.040 --> 0:16:04.280 it's six and seven are right there for them. And 0:16:04.720 --> 0:16:07.760 when the Heat get their guys back, you assume they're 0:16:07.760 --> 0:16:09.240 going to make a move in the raps as well. 0:16:09.240 --> 0:16:11.960 But og An andob uh It was a boss man. 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:15.040 He was a boss in that game. And it's it 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:17.480 was cool to see him take that number one roll 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:20.320 and roll with it for one night. And the rematch 0:16:20.360 --> 0:16:24.920 tonight should be a blast between Nurse and protege Nate Bjorkrin. 0:16:25.280 --> 0:16:28.120 Yeah. The Iowa Bowl, as some people were calling it, 0:16:28.160 --> 0:16:30.720 is that where they last saw each other, I think, 0:16:30.840 --> 0:16:32.680 or last coached against each other when they were me 0:16:32.760 --> 0:16:35.960 and Iowa. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. The question for me with 0:16:36.000 --> 0:16:37.840 the Raps is, like you said it there tasks and 0:16:37.880 --> 0:16:39.720 I'll throw it at you, Trey, like, can the Raps 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:42.440 sort of like you know, that was a victory that 0:16:42.480 --> 0:16:44.800 they won last night or yesterday I should say afternoon. 0:16:44.800 --> 0:16:47.200 That was reminiscent of last year, right, that was sort 0:16:47.240 --> 0:16:48.760 of like how the Raps won a lot of games 0:16:48.800 --> 0:16:50.920 last year, I think, especially down their their star players 0:16:50.920 --> 0:16:53.600 in Lowry and Siakam. But can they barge their way 0:16:53.640 --> 0:16:56.520 into like the top of the east conversation, you know, 0:16:56.800 --> 0:16:59.320 like the Sixers and the Bucks and the Celtics I 0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:01.080 think are all there, the Nets are in the mix. 0:17:01.120 --> 0:17:03.680 And then and then it's like the next tier of 0:17:03.720 --> 0:17:06.040 your Pacers, Heat and Raptors. Can one of those three? 0:17:06.119 --> 0:17:09.320 Can all of them who or none get into that 0:17:09.359 --> 0:17:10.760 sort of upper etchelong conversation? 0:17:11.200 --> 0:17:13.760 Well, unfortunately, I do think the Raptors are going to 0:17:13.800 --> 0:17:17.000 make it into the top six, into the guaranteed playoff spots. 0:17:17.200 --> 0:17:19.520 This seems to me to be the long con from 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:22.160 the Raptors, come out, struggle, make it look like you're 0:17:22.200 --> 0:17:24.240 not the same championship team you used to be, and 0:17:24.280 --> 0:17:27.280 then you got everybody sit in fat, feeling good, and 0:17:27.320 --> 0:17:29.320 you're able to pull off victories like you'd were last 0:17:29.320 --> 0:17:31.439 season when you were the can't say die Raptors. But 0:17:31.720 --> 0:17:33.160 it's too bad they're going to get into the top 0:17:33.200 --> 0:17:36.520 six because right now seven through ten goes Hawks, Nicks, 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:39.280 Bowls Raptors. That would be absolutely perfect for us in 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:41.919 the Eastern Conference play and tournament. The Raptors are just 0:17:41.960 --> 0:17:43.840 too good. They had a bad couple of weeks to 0:17:43.880 --> 0:17:45.960 start the season, and it happened to come at the 0:17:46.000 --> 0:17:48.119 start of the season, which is when everybody's eyes are 0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:49.280 going to be on them. If you have a bad 0:17:49.320 --> 0:17:51.200 couple of weeks in the middle of March, it probably 0:17:51.200 --> 0:17:53.520 slides under the radar. But the Raptors seem to have 0:17:53.520 --> 0:17:55.600 found their footing down there in Florida and they're playing 0:17:55.640 --> 0:17:56.439 some good basketball. Now. 0:17:56.640 --> 0:18:00.199 Yeah, og Man, like he is a he's not going 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:02.080 to be in any sort of most improved conversation. I 0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:03.800 don't think. I think, guys, we've talked about some of 0:18:03.800 --> 0:18:05.920 the candidates or just sort of leaps and bounds ahead 0:18:05.920 --> 0:18:08.000 of some of the other guys trailing them, but he'd 0:18:08.000 --> 0:18:10.760 better be a Dan lock Lely for an all defensive nod, 0:18:10.880 --> 0:18:12.360 Like he has to be on one of those two 0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:14.600 teams because like he is given the best guy on 0:18:14.640 --> 0:18:17.040 the other team. He's given that you know role, and 0:18:17.400 --> 0:18:19.280 he's more times than nut shuts them down or at 0:18:19.320 --> 0:18:21.200 least contains them. And then for him what he was 0:18:21.240 --> 0:18:24.639 doing offensively, he does not have the tightest handle, I 0:18:24.640 --> 0:18:27.160 would say Og, but man, it's getting a little better. 0:18:27.160 --> 0:18:29.440 He's getting a little more confident and he's just barging 0:18:29.520 --> 0:18:32.240 through guys like attacking, and then he's also hitting the 0:18:32.280 --> 0:18:34.280 three pointer, which we know he can do for stretches. 0:18:34.320 --> 0:18:36.480 So it's like, you know, you know, you hear Raps 0:18:36.520 --> 0:18:39.560 fans going, hold on, is Og already the Raptor's best player? 0:18:39.640 --> 0:18:43.080 Like is he going to eclipse here very shortly? Like 0:18:43.119 --> 0:18:45.600 a siakam If you still believe that, you know, Lowry 0:18:45.680 --> 0:18:48.320 is Lowryly he's the groat, the greatest Raptor of all time, 0:18:48.359 --> 0:18:50.159 but you know he's obviously lost a little bit of 0:18:50.160 --> 0:18:53.679 a step. I think you could start convincing me that 0:18:53.720 --> 0:18:56.080 it wouldn't be long for Og to be the best 0:18:56.080 --> 0:18:58.080 player on this team. Because what he does both ends. 0:18:58.080 --> 0:19:00.320 I think, yeah, well, he got the big contract just 0:19:00.359 --> 0:19:03.399 coming into the season, so certainly massage Jerry believes that 0:19:03.480 --> 0:19:05.639 he has a big future here. But can we please 0:19:05.680 --> 0:19:07.480 not talk all defense. I don't want to get into that. 0:19:07.560 --> 0:19:13.240 After for you and your plus and all that, ye 0:19:13.560 --> 0:19:17.439 forget of that debacle. I think you can play them 0:19:17.440 --> 0:19:18.399 on one of these two teams. 0:19:18.760 --> 0:19:22.359 Well yeah, yeah, I mean the second team. There are 0:19:22.400 --> 0:19:24.359 sometimes players who bob up on that who no one 0:19:24.440 --> 0:19:27.320 really expects. But look, he's out there and he's playing tough. 0:19:27.400 --> 0:19:29.280 That's what I like about it is he plays tough 0:19:29.480 --> 0:19:31.920 and then he hits those shots. And he has been 0:19:31.960 --> 0:19:33.920 someone who rapped his fans have turned on from time 0:19:33.960 --> 0:19:35.760 to time. So you know, he's playing great right now. 0:19:35.800 --> 0:19:37.800 Everyone's in love with him. But we'll see what happens 0:19:37.840 --> 0:19:39.320 if he hits another bit of a rough patch at 0:19:39.359 --> 0:19:42.359 some point during the season, because he's someone who people 0:19:42.480 --> 0:19:44.639 like to like to jump on pretty quickly when he 0:19:44.680 --> 0:19:45.760 has a couple of bad games. 0:19:46.040 --> 0:19:49.000 He's not a number one offensive player though, like that's key. 0:19:49.080 --> 0:19:51.240 I think the worst part about the worst thing for 0:19:51.320 --> 0:19:53.560 him is that Pascal Siakam plays beside him and they 0:19:53.600 --> 0:19:57.720 just say whoa he can turn into Pascal Siakam offensively. Defensively, 0:19:57.760 --> 0:20:01.439 obviously he's a bus But the a four year, seventy 0:20:01.480 --> 0:20:04.800 two million dollar contract is his pennies on the dollar 0:20:04.840 --> 0:20:06.760 because of what he does defensively and how he can 0:20:06.800 --> 0:20:11.160 contribute offensively. And somebody would probably given him even more 0:20:11.200 --> 0:20:15.040 than that this offseason, considering the free agency class and 0:20:15.040 --> 0:20:19.080 how weak it is. But just because you see one game, 0:20:19.119 --> 0:20:20.640 you can't just throw him into Hey, he's a number 0:20:20.680 --> 0:20:22.080 one guy and he's gonna all start. I mean, he 0:20:22.080 --> 0:20:23.080 hasn't even. 0:20:22.960 --> 0:20:25.280 No, no, I'm not even scratched that maybe he's one 0:20:25.320 --> 0:20:26.160 B A, two A. 0:20:27.720 --> 0:20:30.359 He's I have way more confidence in an OG shot 0:20:30.400 --> 0:20:33.119 though than I do a Sam shot from outside Buchan 0:20:33.480 --> 0:20:35.720 and everything like. It's just, yeah, way more faith in 0:20:35.880 --> 0:20:37.840 him being a little more consistent with that. But yeah, 0:20:38.160 --> 0:20:40.359 it was his best game probably as a Raptors. As 0:20:40.440 --> 0:20:42.840 Lee said, I'd probably agree with that on both ends. 0:20:43.280 --> 0:20:44.200 Let's keep it going here. 0:20:45.000 --> 0:20:47.760 What do you got, Trey, Well, the Fixers still look 0:20:47.880 --> 0:20:49.639 like the best team in the Eastern Conference. They had 0:20:49.640 --> 0:20:52.880 a great wakeound on Friday, they beat the Celtics. Embiid 0:20:53.000 --> 0:20:55.960 had thirty eight and eleven, looking like an MVP again, 0:20:56.000 --> 0:20:58.680 eleven points in the fourth quarter. But the big news 0:20:58.760 --> 0:21:00.720 I thought from this one was the best Simmons had 0:21:00.760 --> 0:21:03.679 a huge fourth quarter. He had eleven points and he 0:21:03.800 --> 0:21:06.119 basically just took down, took over down the stretch against 0:21:06.119 --> 0:21:08.800 the Celtics. You know, it's gonna be very interesting. I 0:21:08.800 --> 0:21:10.480 think we should see these couple of teams in the 0:21:10.480 --> 0:21:13.080 playoffs because they love beefing with each other. We got 0:21:13.080 --> 0:21:17.240 Embiid versus Marcus Smart. Marcus Smart was flopping like crazy 0:21:17.320 --> 0:21:20.560 in this game. Embiid versus Tys Tye was flopping like crazy. 0:21:20.560 --> 0:21:23.360 Obviously they had the beef last week about who flops 0:21:23.359 --> 0:21:25.160 the most. But that was a fun one. And then 0:21:25.200 --> 0:21:27.800 on Saturday the Sixers kept it rolling. They beat the 0:21:27.800 --> 0:21:30.520 Pistons thirty three and fourteen. For Embiid, he was making 0:21:30.800 --> 0:21:33.560 big defensive plays. He had some huge rebounds. But again, 0:21:33.880 --> 0:21:35.840 the story to me is that Ben Simmons had his 0:21:35.880 --> 0:21:38.520 first twenty point game of the year twenty nine and seven. 0:21:38.560 --> 0:21:40.639 For Ben Simmons, they just need him to be aggressive, 0:21:40.920 --> 0:21:43.680 play downhill and get in the lane, because I mean, 0:21:43.720 --> 0:21:47.000 he's scoring like twelve points a game. Everybody wants Ben 0:21:47.000 --> 0:21:48.760 Simmons to be a shooter. That doesn't seem to be 0:21:48.840 --> 0:21:50.920 the case right now, but he can still score more 0:21:50.920 --> 0:21:52.760 than twelve points a game. He just needs to take shots. 0:21:52.760 --> 0:21:54.760 He needs to be aggressive looking to score because if 0:21:54.760 --> 0:21:57.320 he's collapsing the defense, if he's in the lane, he's 0:21:57.320 --> 0:21:59.480 so tall that he's still got the kickout passes there. 0:21:59.520 --> 0:22:01.560 But they need to go to the hoop and actually 0:22:01.600 --> 0:22:03.920 try and get some layups here. He had a huge 0:22:04.000 --> 0:22:07.159 drive to the hoop to get to get free throws 0:22:07.240 --> 0:22:10.720 down the stretch against the Pistons. He's a special defensive 0:22:10.720 --> 0:22:14.000 player already. It feels like Doc Rivers is getting everything 0:22:14.000 --> 0:22:16.440 out of Embiid and Harris to start the season. Now, 0:22:16.520 --> 0:22:19.600 if Ben Simmons is running rounding into form, the Sixers 0:22:19.600 --> 0:22:22.560 are gonna look even scarier. It's tough to always believe 0:22:22.600 --> 0:22:24.639 in the Sixers because they have these high highs, They 0:22:24.640 --> 0:22:26.960 have these huge peaks, and it seems that most of 0:22:26.960 --> 0:22:29.000 these are coming at home right now, which is also 0:22:29.040 --> 0:22:33.000 a classics fixers thing to do. But it feels like 0:22:33.080 --> 0:22:35.400 the vibes are better in Philadelphia. It feels like they're 0:22:35.400 --> 0:22:38.119 confident and they're playing the right style of ball without 0:22:38.440 --> 0:22:40.520 the constant question of should we break these guys up 0:22:40.560 --> 0:22:41.639 over the top of their heads. 0:22:41.800 --> 0:22:44.440 Yeah, especially like the timing of it all coming off 0:22:44.480 --> 0:22:47.639 the heels of the Harden trade and them not getting hardened, 0:22:47.720 --> 0:22:50.119 but Simmons' name being thrown around and like you kept 0:22:50.160 --> 0:22:52.120 bringing it up, Lee, like ooh, that could be bad, 0:22:52.160 --> 0:22:54.080 Like it'll be interesting to see how Simmons bounces back 0:22:54.119 --> 0:22:55.760 from that, how the team deals with that, and like 0:22:56.200 --> 0:22:58.360 they just continue to, you know, get these wins under 0:22:58.400 --> 0:23:00.920 their belt. So that's that's fantastic, even if it means, 0:23:00.960 --> 0:23:03.040 you know, you need Simmons to score twenty five and eight. 0:23:03.280 --> 0:23:05.119 Yeah, And he's gotten to the free throw line double 0:23:05.119 --> 0:23:07.359 digits times two of the last three games, which I 0:23:07.359 --> 0:23:09.560 think is important. He's making those free throws two, seven 0:23:09.600 --> 0:23:11.440 to ten and then ten for twelve, So I think 0:23:11.440 --> 0:23:13.680 that is Doc Rivers saying to him, like, yeah, don't worry, 0:23:13.720 --> 0:23:16.080 we don't care if you're not shooting, but you have 0:23:16.160 --> 0:23:18.359 to still be aggressive and get inside. Because once he 0:23:18.400 --> 0:23:20.679 gets inside at six, nine, sixty ten, whatever he is, 0:23:21.359 --> 0:23:23.320 there's not many guards who can really get up there 0:23:23.359 --> 0:23:24.760 and can test the shot. So he just has to 0:23:24.760 --> 0:23:26.359 take the ball strong and he's going to get the 0:23:26.400 --> 0:23:28.440 free throw calls, and he's going to get to the line. 0:23:28.480 --> 0:23:29.639 So I think that's what it is. 0:23:29.720 --> 0:23:31.080 But overall, I. 0:23:31.040 --> 0:23:33.760 Think his response to that trade has been good. I 0:23:33.800 --> 0:23:36.119 think his attitude has been in the right place because 0:23:36.400 --> 0:23:38.639 on the night where it looked like he was being traded, 0:23:38.640 --> 0:23:41.280 apparently his agent was told he was being traded, he 0:23:41.359 --> 0:23:43.080 had a bad game and it looked like it. But 0:23:43.119 --> 0:23:45.520 then the trade happened and he wasn't included, and he 0:23:45.600 --> 0:23:47.399 seemed to be able to get over that pretty quickly. 0:23:47.440 --> 0:23:50.359 So I think that's very important for him, because again, 0:23:50.400 --> 0:23:53.680 if he and Embiid reach their potential with all their 0:23:53.720 --> 0:23:57.119 sort of surrounding players, their role players, the sky for 0:23:57.160 --> 0:23:59.680 the Sixers really is I think conference finals. I think 0:23:59.680 --> 0:24:02.240 that's in play. But when they can't play together, and 0:24:02.280 --> 0:24:04.960 when they play at their worst, it's like first round 0:24:04.960 --> 0:24:06.879 fodder like they were last season in the Bubble. I 0:24:06.880 --> 0:24:10.240 know Simmons didn't play in that series, but they do 0:24:10.320 --> 0:24:13.640 have quite a variance between their absolute best and their 0:24:13.640 --> 0:24:16.080 absolute worst, and so much of it just comes down 0:24:16.440 --> 0:24:18.600 to their two star players, which which is often the 0:24:18.600 --> 0:24:20.200 case in the NBA. If you get the burst out 0:24:20.240 --> 0:24:22.360 of those guys, then you can be great. But if 0:24:22.520 --> 0:24:24.879 if one guy is not functioning or they can't work together, 0:24:25.320 --> 0:24:27.760 then they don't really intimidate or scare any of those 0:24:27.760 --> 0:24:28.400 other teams. 0:24:28.600 --> 0:24:30.440 Yeah, so good weekend for the Sixers. I'll keep it 0:24:30.520 --> 0:24:33.840 rolling here. A winner of the weekend the Nuggets for 0:24:33.960 --> 0:24:37.040 going back to back wins over the Suns. It was 0:24:37.040 --> 0:24:39.480 the all beat ball series, both of them in overtime, 0:24:39.920 --> 0:24:41.800 but they got it done. So on Friday, the Nuggets 0:24:41.920 --> 0:24:45.080 rallied to force overtime before getting the one thirty to 0:24:45.119 --> 0:24:47.159 one to twenty six win. Now, Yolkisch was a monster 0:24:47.240 --> 0:24:49.239 again in this. You know, he is of course at 0:24:49.280 --> 0:24:51.520 the top with embiid and a couple other guys of 0:24:51.560 --> 0:24:54.080 the MVP leader board thirty one points, ten boards. Eat 0:24:54.080 --> 0:24:57.080 assess Jamal Murray, though he hit a big shot like 0:24:57.119 --> 0:25:00.320 thirteen foot jumper to put Denver up three ice the game, 0:25:00.359 --> 0:25:02.240 there was like thirty seconds left and he had a 0:25:02.280 --> 0:25:04.680 good game, you know, a decent game eighteen ninety seven, 0:25:04.720 --> 0:25:06.040 you know, not a ton of points, not a ton 0:25:06.040 --> 0:25:08.760 of scoring, but helping across the board there in the system. 0:25:08.800 --> 0:25:10.720 Rebounds lost in the shuffle of that game too a 0:25:10.720 --> 0:25:12.840 little bit. Michael Porter Junior returned for the first time 0:25:12.880 --> 0:25:15.240 since late December after he missed ten games in the 0:25:15.280 --> 0:25:17.720 league's COVID nineteen health and safety protocols. And you know, 0:25:17.800 --> 0:25:19.840 he had seven points six boards in twenty minutes coming 0:25:19.880 --> 0:25:22.399 off the bench in his first one. Nuggets followed that 0:25:22.480 --> 0:25:25.159 up on Saturday against the Suns. Again, like I said, 0:25:25.480 --> 0:25:27.640 in another overtime game. This one went to double overtime. 0:25:27.720 --> 0:25:30.800 Jokich once again awesome, twenty nine points. He ate some 0:25:30.880 --> 0:25:33.199 roast beef which we'll get to in a second, but 0:25:33.240 --> 0:25:35.600 they got the eight point victory one twenty to one. 0:25:35.680 --> 0:25:39.000 Twelve Sons were without Booker got hamstring issues, So I 0:25:39.000 --> 0:25:40.600 could we could very easily just sort of give the 0:25:40.640 --> 0:25:42.520 Suns a loser the weekend for losing back to back 0:25:42.520 --> 0:25:44.359 against the Nuggets and then this injury to Booker. But 0:25:44.720 --> 0:25:47.160 we'll keep it positive here with the Nuggets. Murray though 0:25:47.680 --> 0:25:50.119 in this one, in this second game, I'm sure you 0:25:50.119 --> 0:25:54.679 guys saw this, that difficult off balance three at the 0:25:54.760 --> 0:25:58.159 end of regulation to force overtime. He ended with twenty 0:25:58.200 --> 0:26:02.240 six points. Yeah, Trey is dropping the traveling call out there, 0:26:02.240 --> 0:26:04.679 definitely probably got away with a walk, probably a foul 0:26:04.720 --> 0:26:06.399 on the play. Though too, if we're being honest, So 0:26:06.440 --> 0:26:09.639 maybe cancel each other out. But a very big shot, 0:26:10.320 --> 0:26:12.120 moving the feet a little bit on the side, and 0:26:12.680 --> 0:26:13.800 they got the victory in the end. 0:26:13.800 --> 0:26:14.160 They roll. 0:26:14.200 --> 0:26:16.560 I mean again, it's Jokic, it's Murray having a decent game, 0:26:16.600 --> 0:26:19.639 hitting the huge shot, and Porter in this one fourteen points, 0:26:19.640 --> 0:26:23.359 eleven boards. So here come the Nuggets, maybe tass you know, 0:26:23.440 --> 0:26:26.680 they started slow, just like the Raptors, but getting the victories. 0:26:26.680 --> 0:26:26.840 Now. 0:26:26.880 --> 0:26:29.679 I think they're nine and seven overall, and Jokic has 0:26:29.680 --> 0:26:32.240 been a rock the entire season. Murray's getting it going, 0:26:32.240 --> 0:26:33.880 and they're just getting some of these other bodies back 0:26:33.880 --> 0:26:35.639 where their bench is starting to look like, oh, that's 0:26:35.680 --> 0:26:36.680 the Nuggets bench of old. 0:26:37.280 --> 0:26:40.280 What a doubleheader this was that this weekend, those two 0:26:40.359 --> 0:26:45.320 teams going back and forth. Unlike the Sixers and Celtics, 0:26:45.320 --> 0:26:47.760 which was a lot of floppy beef, just flop after 0:26:47.840 --> 0:26:51.800 flop after flop, these two teams it was just good 0:26:51.840 --> 0:26:54.480 basketball going back and forth, and Jokic versus eight and 0:26:54.560 --> 0:26:57.320 eight and was doing such a great job of taking 0:26:57.359 --> 0:27:00.320 away Jokic's spots. Even though Yokic had a real good game, 0:27:00.320 --> 0:27:03.159 because he's a friggin superstar. He's an MVP candidate. I 0:27:03.200 --> 0:27:06.000 was really impressed with DeAndre Ayton and how they fought 0:27:06.080 --> 0:27:09.439 on a second night without Devin Booker. That was that 0:27:09.520 --> 0:27:12.640 was a blest And if that's any sort of indication 0:27:12.680 --> 0:27:14.600 of what we're going to get in the postseason, I 0:27:14.640 --> 0:27:17.280 can't wait because I would love to see the Suns. 0:27:17.600 --> 0:27:21.000 I'm not so sure if I want to see Celtics 0:27:21.240 --> 0:27:24.479 and Sixers. In terms of flop, oh, man, it's too 0:27:24.560 --> 0:27:28.040 many flops. That's like flop per minute rate. That's a lot, man, 0:27:28.520 --> 0:27:32.600 Like it's lower. It lowers, for sure, you know, but 0:27:32.680 --> 0:27:33.520 you'd be on board. 0:27:33.800 --> 0:27:36.480 You'd be on board with the Sun's Nuggets series like 0:27:36.520 --> 0:27:38.560 a four five or three six or something like that. 0:27:38.600 --> 0:27:41.840 Great stories, great stories throughout throughout the both those rosters. 0:27:42.040 --> 0:27:42.600 Yeah, it was. 0:27:42.600 --> 0:27:43.000 It was good. 0:27:43.040 --> 0:27:44.800 Anything to add, I mean, you thought it was a 0:27:44.800 --> 0:27:47.639 travel trey. I actually think you're right there with Murray. 0:27:47.960 --> 0:27:49.879 So did the last two minute report they said it 0:27:49.960 --> 0:27:52.119 was a travel He did that. He did the smart 0:27:52.160 --> 0:27:54.679 move though he took a shot from right underneath the 0:27:54.720 --> 0:27:56.880 score bug. You couldn't really see what his feet were doing, 0:27:56.880 --> 0:27:58.800 but he called the ball there. But if they don't 0:27:58.800 --> 0:28:00.760 call it, it counts. That was a crazy shot with 0:28:00.960 --> 0:28:03.520 zero reaction because there was nobody there, But I was like, 0:28:03.520 --> 0:28:06.800 oh wow, that went in. Incredible stuff. But the Nuggets 0:28:06.840 --> 0:28:09.000 are looking good, and I think that Yokic would be 0:28:09.000 --> 0:28:11.560 even higher in the MVP conversation if we were seeing 0:28:11.560 --> 0:28:14.639 these kind of performances from Jamal Murray all season, because 0:28:14.680 --> 0:28:17.280 the Nuggets have been very close in winning the games 0:28:17.280 --> 0:28:19.560 that they lost. They're nine and seven. The defense has 0:28:19.600 --> 0:28:22.040 not been very good at all, but Jokic has been 0:28:22.080 --> 0:28:24.160 straight up ball, and if he had the secondary guy 0:28:24.200 --> 0:28:26.360 there every single night, they're probably a little bit better 0:28:26.359 --> 0:28:28.080 than nine and seven. Good to see Murray get going. 0:28:28.119 --> 0:28:30.600 He looked like he was in total control of this game. 0:28:30.640 --> 0:28:33.040 So yeah, I'm with Tassi. Sign me up for Nuggets 0:28:33.119 --> 0:28:35.400 Versuns because I think their first game was the one 0:28:35.400 --> 0:28:38.280 where Chris Paul hit that really big baseline jumper and 0:28:38.280 --> 0:28:40.080 then one of his teammates stepped on his shoe, So 0:28:40.120 --> 0:28:43.640 they've played three classics already. Would be fun in the playoffs, 0:28:43.640 --> 0:28:45.440 no doubt about it. But of course, for me, the 0:28:45.440 --> 0:28:48.080 biggest news out of this one twenty two rebounds from 0:28:48.160 --> 0:28:50.280 Nikolea Jokic, So you know, we got to. 0:28:50.240 --> 0:29:09.560 Do it to him, skeets. 0:29:04.560 --> 0:29:07.960 Nikola Jokic grabbed twenty two rebounds. That's a lot of 0:29:08.040 --> 0:29:40.360 roast beef. He's on Denver. That's mile hide, no duks. 0:29:40.800 --> 0:29:45.640 We love roast beef, which is rebounds. 0:29:46.480 --> 0:29:50.240 When you see it cut together like that, you really 0:29:50.400 --> 0:29:53.360 realize that Jokic never grabs a rebound with two hands. 0:29:53.560 --> 0:29:57.200 Oh my good, this is hilarious to watch this guy rebounding, 0:29:57.720 --> 0:30:00.320 never grabs a rebound with two hands. Barely he jumps 0:30:00.360 --> 0:30:01.800 off the court. Look at how many of those are 0:30:01.840 --> 0:30:05.640 just him worming his way around DeAndre Ayton wearing an 0:30:05.720 --> 0:30:08.920 ironic number twenty two. Just a little tiny tip that 0:30:09.000 --> 0:30:10.840 one rebound right off the top where he grabs it 0:30:10.840 --> 0:30:12.800 with one hand. It just chucks it down the court. 0:30:13.160 --> 0:30:16.000 They didn't score on it, but he's throwing the outlet pass. Anyways, 0:30:16.280 --> 0:30:19.040 This was a lot different than watching Clint Capella's sloppy 0:30:19.080 --> 0:30:22.360 beef was. This was an interesting beef to watch, but 0:30:22.400 --> 0:30:25.480 the beef watch continues. That's our fifth twenty rebound game 0:30:25.560 --> 0:30:28.400 so far the season. Two for Drummond, one now for 0:30:28.480 --> 0:30:32.240 sabonas Clint Cappella and Nicola Jokic. Cappella he got pretty 0:30:32.520 --> 0:30:35.240 close over the weekend. Nineteen rebounds is looking like back 0:30:35.280 --> 0:30:37.400 to back beef. But this is how you inspire people. 0:30:37.800 --> 0:30:40.680 Big Beef exists for one week and now we got 0:30:40.680 --> 0:30:42.719 five twenty rebound games. You don't need to go out 0:30:42.760 --> 0:30:44.880 there and trash people. You gotta lift them up. Say 0:30:44.920 --> 0:30:46.680 we want to see those rebounds. 0:30:46.800 --> 0:30:49.160 Yeah. I saw someone on Twitter saying that what's going 0:30:49.200 --> 0:30:51.600 on with all these twenty rebound games? Is it because 0:30:51.600 --> 0:30:53.840 of the Big Beef? I think so everybody wants that 0:30:53.960 --> 0:30:54.600 roast beef. 0:30:54.920 --> 0:30:57.480 What would you call it if Cappella gets the triple 0:30:57.520 --> 0:30:59.200 double with the roast beef because he had the ten 0:30:59.280 --> 0:31:02.720 blocks too, and he had it. 0:31:02.720 --> 0:31:04.920 Oh you're saying, what happens with the triple double and 0:31:05.280 --> 0:31:06.320 roast beef? Exactly? 0:31:06.480 --> 0:31:08.280 Yeah, beef in Swiss. I don't know. 0:31:08.960 --> 0:31:13.720 Triple decker, I think, yeah, yeah, why not? I think 0:31:13.720 --> 0:31:15.720 that's when Nicole Joki is doing with that other hand. 0:31:15.760 --> 0:31:17.880 When he's rebounding with one hand, he's got a roast 0:31:17.920 --> 0:31:20.520 beef sandwich in the other that he's killing. 0:31:20.800 --> 0:31:23.520 It's incredible watching those, though. It really is like you 0:31:23.520 --> 0:31:25.520 don't notice as much when you just see one at 0:31:25.560 --> 0:31:27.520 a time. For some reason, you cut them all together. 0:31:27.560 --> 0:31:29.960 It's like he never ever grabs it with two hands. 0:31:29.960 --> 0:31:30.560 It's always one. 0:31:30.880 --> 0:31:32.680 And that music just guessed me. Hype was that the 0:31:32.680 --> 0:31:36.240 whittler on the ones and twos dropping those beats. That 0:31:36.400 --> 0:31:36.959 was nice. 0:31:37.120 --> 0:31:39.200 Well, let's stick with the nuggets because a couple other 0:31:39.240 --> 0:31:41.120 things here, Jamal Murray back to him. You know, he 0:31:41.120 --> 0:31:43.240 had all those big shots the ice the first game, 0:31:43.280 --> 0:31:45.720 and then he hit the game tying three, which you 0:31:45.760 --> 0:31:47.760 got away with the travel, but he hit the shot anyway. 0:31:48.040 --> 0:31:51.680 He also gave us one of three new wedgies from 0:31:51.720 --> 0:31:54.800 the weekend guys. So on Friday it was Jamal Murray 0:31:54.880 --> 0:31:56.840 Kitchener's finess. Of course, I should have said that earlier. 0:31:57.320 --> 0:32:01.040 Stuck it from the wing a spot, classic spot for 0:32:01.120 --> 0:32:03.640 a ggie, really deep weggie. I'd say that one's really 0:32:03.640 --> 0:32:07.360 in there, so that's nice. Then on Sunday, Lonnie Walker 0:32:07.400 --> 0:32:11.960 the fourth from the exact same spot, basically another leggie. 0:32:12.160 --> 0:32:15.120 Weg you number twelve if you're keeping track here, Marie 0:32:15.240 --> 0:32:19.479 was eleven Walker twelve, and then we weren't done because 0:32:19.520 --> 0:32:22.320 the Blazers, guys, my goodness, I think the Blazers are 0:32:22.320 --> 0:32:25.160 gonna win the championship solely because of how they've contributed 0:32:25.680 --> 0:32:28.160 to the hashtag we are Edgie because we got wedgie 0:32:28.200 --> 0:32:30.840 number thirteen on the season once again in a Blazers game, 0:32:30.880 --> 0:32:33.040 and once again Lamar heard on the. 0:32:32.920 --> 0:32:36.600 Call, Robinson denied by Kempy tenn and what do we 0:32:36.640 --> 0:32:42.400 have portally have a weggie? We've gotten more of those 0:32:42.440 --> 0:32:45.120 over the last three or four gas. We really have 0:32:45.400 --> 0:32:47.680 make that pass, good job and they go up and 0:32:47.800 --> 0:32:48.440 get that in. 0:32:48.520 --> 0:32:51.080 It was that our fourth one fourth. That's the rare 0:32:51.200 --> 0:32:51.800 block wedg. 0:32:51.840 --> 0:32:54.440 You can see those in the wild patients. 0:32:54.720 --> 0:32:57.480 Then I'm join those guys pretty so we're going to 0:32:57.520 --> 0:32:59.640 talk about Yeah. 0:32:59.320 --> 0:33:02.920 Look at that, Lamar heard teasing his appearance coming up 0:33:02.960 --> 0:33:06.800 here on No Dunks incredible and it's like, yeah, what 0:33:06.880 --> 0:33:09.760 is that our fourth Blazer's wedgie? Is that right? That's 0:33:09.840 --> 0:33:13.120 unbelievable this early in the season. Lamar heard, though, Blazer's 0:33:13.080 --> 0:33:15.080 broadcaster is coming on our show later this week. We 0:33:15.080 --> 0:33:17.160 got them penciled in for Wednesday. Got to talk to 0:33:17.240 --> 0:33:20.680 him about weggies. And that's of course his Blazers team 0:33:20.880 --> 0:33:22.440 got a whole lot more incredible. 0:33:22.720 --> 0:33:25.160 That was a crazy wedgie too, That was very soft 0:33:25.160 --> 0:33:27.640 the way it kind of like got just loaded up there. 0:33:27.640 --> 0:33:28.280 It was meant to be. 0:33:28.520 --> 0:33:31.680 Yeah, very low, I would say too low underneath it 0:33:32.000 --> 0:33:34.600 quite under the rim. So that's fantastic. We're at thirteen 0:33:34.640 --> 0:33:37.320 Wedgies tasks, Okay, we are. I mean, we'd have to 0:33:37.320 --> 0:33:38.880 go back and check, but I'm not sure we've ever 0:33:38.920 --> 0:33:43.440 had a start this hot right thirteen, like, and we're 0:33:43.520 --> 0:33:44.479 month into the season. 0:33:45.680 --> 0:33:49.480 I can confirm no chance we've had such a hot start. 0:33:49.480 --> 0:33:53.200 There's no chance that we're on pace for sixty ish 0:33:53.280 --> 0:33:56.479 to start the season and a seventy two game season. 0:33:56.680 --> 0:33:59.200 Oh and yes, we've taken that into account all those 0:33:59.240 --> 0:34:03.520 asking we include playoffs, but at this rate, layoffs are 0:34:03.560 --> 0:34:07.800 gonna be gravy on the low hanging Weggies. We're gonna 0:34:07.840 --> 0:34:10.400 blow through fifty. It feels like. Yeah, and it the 0:34:10.440 --> 0:34:13.279 man who gives us credit, Lamar Hurd, to have him 0:34:13.280 --> 0:34:15.239 on the call for four of them. This is the 0:34:15.320 --> 0:34:16.000 year of the Wedggie. 0:34:16.480 --> 0:34:20.120 It's truly amazing. And one more Nuggets related thing, Okay, 0:34:20.200 --> 0:34:22.520 to bring it back to the Nuggets, I just wanted 0:34:22.560 --> 0:34:25.360 to bring attention to this Monte Morris nickname on Basketball 0:34:25.360 --> 0:34:27.920 Reference that was making the rounds over the weekend, and 0:34:27.960 --> 0:34:29.840 I pointed out that We had nothing to do with this, 0:34:29.960 --> 0:34:33.600 but I wish we did. One of Monte Morris's nicknames 0:34:34.360 --> 0:34:39.480 is count of Monte assist slash teo. You know for turnover. 0:34:39.560 --> 0:34:42.920 He's got a great assist to turnover ratio Count of 0:34:43.200 --> 0:34:46.719 Monte assist you. I can't believe Task didn't come up 0:34:46.760 --> 0:34:50.000 with this, Orley or me for that matter, because this 0:34:50.080 --> 0:34:52.200 is right in our wheelhouse. But it wasn't us. I 0:34:52.239 --> 0:34:54.560 don't know who did it. Maybe just the people in 0:34:54.640 --> 0:34:57.719 Basketball Reference are having some fun. But what a nickname? 0:34:59.080 --> 0:35:02.600 What a nickname? Honestly though, if Count of Monte Assisto 0:35:02.840 --> 0:35:06.520 can make it, why is Ray Biscuit's dad quest not 0:35:06.760 --> 0:35:08.160 on Basketball Reference? 0:35:08.200 --> 0:35:11.640 Come on for favous bass kids. Yes, that's uh, we 0:35:11.640 --> 0:35:13.960 should get that up there. So what a weekend for 0:35:14.000 --> 0:35:16.520 the Nuggets there? What a weekend overall? I will say 0:35:16.520 --> 0:35:18.839 a mini winner of the weekend Jalen Brown. I mean, 0:35:18.880 --> 0:35:21.160 I know you don't want to watch Celtic Sixers matchup 0:35:21.160 --> 0:35:24.880 in the playoffs, fair enough tests, but Jalen Brown somehow 0:35:25.440 --> 0:35:28.359 scored the most points ever in the shot clock era 0:35:28.400 --> 0:35:30.520 at least, so we're talking since nineteen fifty four to 0:35:30.600 --> 0:35:33.560 fifty five, most points scored in under twenty minutes in 0:35:33.600 --> 0:35:37.320 a game last night yesterday thirty three points, shot thirteen 0:35:37.360 --> 0:35:42.399 to twenty in just nineteen minutes, which is pretty damn 0:35:42.440 --> 0:35:43.240 special there lately. 0:35:43.320 --> 0:35:45.759 Yeah, I would have thought someone like staff or Clay 0:35:45.760 --> 0:35:48.080 Thompson would have done better than that at some point. 0:35:48.160 --> 0:35:48.360 You know. 0:35:48.520 --> 0:35:50.600 It just it was weird. I saw that stat as well. 0:35:50.640 --> 0:35:53.959 I'm like, eh, that seems like that's not that many 0:35:53.960 --> 0:35:57.040 points really for the way that the players scored in 0:35:57.080 --> 0:35:58.719 the league these days, you know, or even someone like 0:35:58.760 --> 0:36:01.239 shack back in his day. Maybe in one of those 0:36:01.239 --> 0:36:03.319 blowouts he plays only the first half and he has 0:36:03.400 --> 0:36:07.560 like thirty six points or something. But shit, very very 0:36:07.600 --> 0:36:10.799 weird Mann thinking out all sorts of crazy stats these days. 0:36:10.840 --> 0:36:13.640 It's like the Baseball Baseball they always come up with, oh, 0:36:13.680 --> 0:36:16.080 he's a he's betting six hundred against lefties on a 0:36:16.160 --> 0:36:17.680 Tuesday and the open. 0:36:17.440 --> 0:36:19.120 Roof, you know, and it's like. 0:36:19.280 --> 0:36:20.640 Alright, alright, it cares. 0:36:20.680 --> 0:36:24.319 But maybe that damn I've talking Tampa Tom. I saw 0:36:24.480 --> 0:36:26.360 quite the stat for him over the weekend. He was 0:36:26.360 --> 0:36:29.200 like twenty five and four when games are under twenty 0:36:29.280 --> 0:36:32.680 nine degrees, when you're bringing in the degrees that's a wow. 0:36:33.320 --> 0:36:35.360 But Jaalen, Man, this guy is straight up ball. And 0:36:35.400 --> 0:36:37.160 he had the thirty three and nineteen minutes, like you said, 0:36:37.200 --> 0:36:40.759 also had forty two against the Sixers, and earlier this season, right, 0:36:40.760 --> 0:36:43.319 he had forty two and twenty nine minutes and that 0:36:43.400 --> 0:36:46.719 was like the greatest Celtics performance since Larry Bird at 0:36:46.719 --> 0:36:49.360 the time. So this guy is knocking off legends left and. 0:36:49.400 --> 0:36:51.719 Right here, Oh, Trey, I mean, on Friday's podcast, on 0:36:51.719 --> 0:36:53.960 the Drop podcast, we were doing our one Month in 0:36:54.040 --> 0:36:56.680 awards and like sort of blew my mind when you 0:36:56.719 --> 0:37:00.160 said Jayalen Brown for Most Improved. Man, I mean, I'm 0:37:00.200 --> 0:37:01.839 all on board with this pick. Now. I know there's 0:37:01.880 --> 0:37:04.319 some other great candidates, but he is averaging. Jalen Brown 0:37:04.360 --> 0:37:07.400 is averaging twenty seven point three points per game, six boards, 0:37:07.440 --> 0:37:09.680 three and a half assists. He's shooting fifty three percent 0:37:09.719 --> 0:37:12.920 from the floor, really good numbers across the board. And 0:37:13.000 --> 0:37:15.480 like Tatum's been in the lineup because of COVID nineteen, 0:37:15.560 --> 0:37:17.919 Kemball obviously wasn't there for a good chunk. Celtics still 0:37:17.920 --> 0:37:20.920 of a decent record. I actually was shocked. I went 0:37:20.920 --> 0:37:23.120 to Basketball Reference this morning thinking Jalen Brown may have 0:37:23.200 --> 0:37:28.280 cracked the like their top ten you know NBA MVP 0:37:28.360 --> 0:37:30.600 Award tracker thing. It's all based on numbers and previous 0:37:30.680 --> 0:37:32.480 votes and stuff like that. But he's not in there yet. 0:37:32.480 --> 0:37:35.160 But he's got to be damn close with what he's doing. 0:37:35.200 --> 0:37:38.160 But most improved. He's looking like a looking like a 0:37:38.160 --> 0:37:40.239 great pick. Though I think maybe he'll be too much 0:37:40.239 --> 0:37:42.279 in the MVP conversation if he keeps us up that 0:37:42.280 --> 0:37:45.160 it could hurt him. But crazy stat and a crazy 0:37:45.160 --> 0:37:45.840 new record. 0:37:45.640 --> 0:37:48.319 There, Yeah, that's possible. He looks like the perfect one 0:37:48.400 --> 0:37:50.839 B right now? Am I? Right late? Because he's he's 0:37:50.880 --> 0:37:53.560 fitting along, looking like a number one option playing alongside 0:37:53.600 --> 0:37:56.480 Jason Tatum or playing alongside Kemba Walker. It's the perfect 0:37:56.520 --> 0:37:58.000 one bee? What the one JB? 0:37:58.160 --> 0:38:01.600 If if he was to MVP, surely he would have 0:38:01.640 --> 0:38:04.040 to also in most improved because who would have improved 0:38:04.080 --> 0:38:06.160 more than him to go from a non MVP to 0:38:06.239 --> 0:38:07.200 MVP this season. 0:38:07.239 --> 0:38:09.480 Well, we had that conversation with Steph Curry. I remember 0:38:09.520 --> 0:38:11.080 back in the day people were trying to give it 0:38:11.120 --> 0:38:12.759 to him as well. I just think if you're in 0:38:12.760 --> 0:38:15.399 the MVP conversation or you're winning it for that matter, 0:38:15.560 --> 0:38:17.400 you're you're out of the running. 0:38:17.120 --> 0:38:17.920 For most Improved. 0:38:17.960 --> 0:38:19.640 I feel like it's just a rule that we came up. 0:38:19.680 --> 0:38:24.160 But all right, those are our winners of the weekend. 0:38:24.200 --> 0:38:26.160 Let's get to loser's task at started. What do you got? 0:38:26.719 --> 0:38:29.919 I gotta start with the New Orleans Pelicans because last 0:38:30.000 --> 0:38:33.520 year we went to the bubble thinking the Pelicans were 0:38:33.520 --> 0:38:37.040 put into that situation. They brought in the Pelicans and 0:38:37.080 --> 0:38:40.960 their their record where they were standing. Because everybody wanted 0:38:40.960 --> 0:38:44.320 to see Zion Williamson. They increased the number of teams 0:38:44.360 --> 0:38:46.879 to get Zion there. The hopes were there for them 0:38:46.920 --> 0:38:49.440 to get in. Their defense did not show up for 0:38:49.480 --> 0:38:52.399 Alvin Gentry, so he was acts. After five seasons, stan 0:38:52.480 --> 0:38:55.440 Ban Gundy inserted and after seven games this season it 0:38:55.480 --> 0:38:58.640 looked like the SPG insertion was fantastic. They had the 0:38:58.640 --> 0:39:02.560 fourth rank d but since then they're twenty ninth and 0:39:02.800 --> 0:39:05.440 they now have, you know, the second worst defense. For 0:39:05.480 --> 0:39:07.680 a good stretch of the season, they've lost eight of nine, 0:39:07.719 --> 0:39:10.919 including to the Timberwolves on Saturday, who didn't have Karl 0:39:10.960 --> 0:39:12.719 Anthony Towns it won't for a while, and they didn't 0:39:12.719 --> 0:39:16.280 have Dangel Russell who was resting. Excuse me, d Angel 0:39:16.360 --> 0:39:19.160 Russell resting the fifteenth best team in the Western Conference 0:39:19.480 --> 0:39:24.640 as resting one of their players, Come on, I don't, yeah, 0:39:24.680 --> 0:39:26.920 it absolutely did. Yeah, they played like a team and 0:39:26.960 --> 0:39:30.200 they won. The thing is with the Pels, they've decided 0:39:30.239 --> 0:39:32.160 to play like the Bucks a little bit. Let's shut 0:39:32.160 --> 0:39:35.000 down the lane, not send anybody to free throw line, 0:39:35.920 --> 0:39:40.160 and allow three point shots to happen. The The objective, though, 0:39:40.280 --> 0:39:42.239 is to make the guys who can't shoot all that 0:39:42.280 --> 0:39:44.120 well shoot the three point shots and take away the 0:39:44.160 --> 0:39:48.160 corner threes. And that's just hasn't happened. And Steven Adams 0:39:48.360 --> 0:39:51.120 has been sucking up a lot of those defensive rebounds. 0:39:51.120 --> 0:39:53.759 But Zion Williamson not a great defensive rebounder, and they're 0:39:53.760 --> 0:39:57.279 allowing opponents to shoot seventy percent at the rim. That's 0:39:57.280 --> 0:39:59.439 not good enough. That's you know, one of the worst 0:39:59.440 --> 0:40:02.440 marks in the lead. Stevie Adams that's not his forte 0:40:03.120 --> 0:40:05.560 So they're not playing hard enough. I think that's what 0:40:05.600 --> 0:40:09.120 it comes down to. They're just not a defensive outfit. 0:40:09.719 --> 0:40:12.200 So they have to pick this thing up because they're 0:40:12.239 --> 0:40:15.759 one of those. To me, they're kind of one of 0:40:15.800 --> 0:40:20.680 the interesting teams coming into the season, and the idea was, yeah, 0:40:20.719 --> 0:40:23.640 they're going to be this hard hat team with Stevie 0:40:23.680 --> 0:40:26.560 Adams in the middle. And now people are thinking, well, 0:40:26.600 --> 0:40:30.280 maybe Zion should play the five, and maybe they should 0:40:30.280 --> 0:40:32.400 just throw JJ Reddick in the starting lineup because Eric 0:40:32.440 --> 0:40:35.640 Letso and Lonzo Ball aren't scoring, and so maybe they 0:40:35.640 --> 0:40:37.800 should just go all offense basically because Zion at the 0:40:37.800 --> 0:40:40.920 five is not going to be amazing defensively. Hey, for me, 0:40:41.360 --> 0:40:43.680 that would be fun to watch, but for stan Ban Gundy, 0:40:44.040 --> 0:40:46.480 he'd pull out every single hair he has on his head, 0:40:46.520 --> 0:40:49.040 I think watching that. So Stevie Adams is going to 0:40:49.080 --> 0:40:50.600 stay at the center spot. But they just have to 0:40:50.600 --> 0:40:54.360 get better. And so the Pelicans, although the Western Conference 0:40:54.400 --> 0:40:57.879 is full of good stories, the Pelicans are not one 0:40:57.880 --> 0:40:59.440 of them at this point. They come home and they 0:40:59.440 --> 0:41:01.040 are going to have lots of games at home to 0:41:01.080 --> 0:41:05.280 try and get their defense right. But all those tenets 0:41:06.040 --> 0:41:09.640 that are you know, their defense is based on, is 0:41:09.680 --> 0:41:12.360 just they're just not coming through on them at this point. 0:41:12.400 --> 0:41:14.839 Eight of nine, last eight of nine that they're they're 0:41:14.840 --> 0:41:15.520 too good for that. 0:41:16.000 --> 0:41:19.840 I saw Kendrick Perkins too, tweeting about them over the weekend. 0:41:20.040 --> 0:41:22.360 He said, you all really thought stan Van Gundy was 0:41:22.400 --> 0:41:25.840 the one. Huh, the Pelicans should have hired a young stud. 0:41:25.920 --> 0:41:28.040 But don't mind me though, carry on, And then I 0:41:28.080 --> 0:41:29.719 saw that. I the only reason I think I saw that. 0:41:29.760 --> 0:41:32.120 I'm not sure if I do follow Kendrick Perkins, but 0:41:32.160 --> 0:41:37.000 I saw Baron Davis retweet it basically doubling down agreeing 0:41:37.040 --> 0:41:39.799 with Kendrick Perkins, sort of like, yeah, people, you know, 0:41:40.000 --> 0:41:42.879 young guys, I guess do not really want to buy 0:41:42.880 --> 0:41:46.799 into what SVG is selling. So I don't know some 0:41:46.840 --> 0:41:48.520 former players thinking that, at least I don't know if 0:41:48.520 --> 0:41:50.359 there's any truth to that. But it's not good right now. 0:41:50.440 --> 0:41:52.200 You're gonna make loser of the weekend probably if you 0:41:52.239 --> 0:41:55.040 lose to the Timberwolves without their best guys, because they're 0:41:55.080 --> 0:41:57.400 not a great team either. So yeah, it's rough. I 0:41:57.400 --> 0:41:59.080 don't know if you have anything to add tray about 0:41:59.120 --> 0:41:59.719 the Pelicans. 0:42:00.120 --> 0:42:02.040 Well, A lot of the concern, it feels like, is 0:42:02.080 --> 0:42:04.680 on whether or not Zion plays defense, and there's no 0:42:04.680 --> 0:42:07.000 doubt about it. He could be better better at it. 0:42:07.120 --> 0:42:09.759 He would certainly struggle playing as a small ball five 0:42:09.800 --> 0:42:11.600 on the defensive end, but he's getting buckets on the 0:42:11.640 --> 0:42:14.480 offensive end and I really think the main problem with 0:42:14.520 --> 0:42:18.040 them defensively is their guards guard absolutely nobody, Like Lonzo 0:42:18.120 --> 0:42:20.799 guards nobody. Eric Bledsoe guards nobody, and they're both out 0:42:20.840 --> 0:42:23.759 there for their defensive prowess more than anything. It's a 0:42:23.800 --> 0:42:27.400 walk into the lane before you're encountering either Steven Adams 0:42:27.520 --> 0:42:29.520 or Zion, So I mean they're at a bit of 0:42:29.520 --> 0:42:32.439 a disadvantage here getting head starts. The guards are getting 0:42:32.480 --> 0:42:34.719 head starts to try and attack Zion, who's a short 0:42:34.719 --> 0:42:36.640 guy who can maybe put his hands up at the rim, 0:42:36.640 --> 0:42:38.480 but doesn't exactly know where to be. Or Steven Adams, 0:42:38.520 --> 0:42:41.200 who doesn't have great left isn't a super rim protector, 0:42:41.239 --> 0:42:43.279 or just a big guy who takes up space. It's 0:42:43.280 --> 0:42:46.840 not looking good, especially considering they brought in. It was 0:42:46.920 --> 0:42:49.600 Lonzo and Eric Bledsoe and Steven Adams. You thought this 0:42:49.640 --> 0:42:51.120 is going to be a pretty solid defense. For a 0:42:51.160 --> 0:42:53.720 defensive coach in stan van Gundy. He's got to be sick, 0:42:53.880 --> 0:42:57.640 absolutely sick, watching these guys get completely dusted in the 0:42:57.640 --> 0:42:59.640 pick and role. It's not even close. It's like they 0:42:59.640 --> 0:43:01.879 come aund one thing and maybe it's Josh Hart, maybe 0:43:01.880 --> 0:43:04.080 it's JJ Reddick, whoever it is, it is a bucket 0:43:04.080 --> 0:43:05.560 for whichever guard is out there. 0:43:05.719 --> 0:43:07.560 Is this safe to say they are not forming an 0:43:07.640 --> 0:43:11.160 f and wall for Stammangunny in the post huh no 0:43:11.760 --> 0:43:13.760 chain link fence. You can get through it pretty easily 0:43:13.760 --> 0:43:15.759 there ly, although it is easy to get through a 0:43:15.840 --> 0:43:17.640 chain link fence. Yeah, I guess it sort of is 0:43:17.719 --> 0:43:18.560 if you were a mouse. 0:43:18.560 --> 0:43:18.880 It is. 0:43:19.040 --> 0:43:23.120 Think about that. Anything to add to the Pelicans. 0:43:22.640 --> 0:43:24.960 No, it's I mean there's a lot of expectation and 0:43:24.960 --> 0:43:27.759 hope on Zion Williamson and he's scoring fine, he's doing 0:43:27.800 --> 0:43:30.279 all that, but it takes time to learn how to 0:43:30.320 --> 0:43:32.520 play defense. It looks like he just has never really 0:43:33.000 --> 0:43:36.480 been a big defensive player throughout his career, and now 0:43:36.480 --> 0:43:37.880 he's in the NBA and he missed most of his 0:43:37.920 --> 0:43:40.400 first season and his second season. It's like, you're the 0:43:40.400 --> 0:43:43.759 star player in this team. Fine, is scoring nice, but 0:43:43.840 --> 0:43:45.200 you need to be able to also hold up your 0:43:45.200 --> 0:43:47.439 other end on the defensive side, and he's not able 0:43:47.440 --> 0:43:49.400 to do that. So yeah, it's it's like it's a 0:43:49.400 --> 0:43:51.399 battle between the Pelicans and the Kings or who has 0:43:51.440 --> 0:43:55.560 the weakest defense, and neither of them have a very 0:43:55.560 --> 0:43:56.920 impressed at all to this point. 0:43:57.400 --> 0:44:00.319 Trey who do you have for loser the weekend of 0:44:00.360 --> 0:44:00.880 the weekend. 0:44:00.920 --> 0:44:03.000 I hate to do it. It's the Orlando Magic. They 0:44:03.000 --> 0:44:06.280 had a tough weekend. On Friday, they lost to the Pacers. 0:44:06.320 --> 0:44:08.840 In this game, they led with sixteen seconds left in 0:44:08.920 --> 0:44:12.000 regulation to Monto Sabonis gets a bucket, Aaron Gordon a 0:44:12.040 --> 0:44:14.920 turnover on the other side. Then they're up three with 0:44:15.040 --> 0:44:18.360 forty four seconds left in overtime, and then it's buckets 0:44:18.360 --> 0:44:21.520 for Demanta Sabonis and Malcolm Brogden. Fourty A misses a 0:44:21.560 --> 0:44:23.239 three on the other end. After the game, he said, 0:44:23.239 --> 0:44:25.560 this was painful because I thought we fought really hard, 0:44:25.560 --> 0:44:27.840 and I feel like we had this game twice and 0:44:27.840 --> 0:44:29.520 I feel like they stole it away from us. That's 0:44:29.560 --> 0:44:32.800 exactly what it felt like. It happened again on Sunday 0:44:32.880 --> 0:44:35.840 versus the Hornets, another loss. No Aaron Gordon in this one. 0:44:35.880 --> 0:44:38.560 The ball movement was incredible to start. They were, you know, 0:44:38.840 --> 0:44:41.520 they assisted on like twenty one of twenty five baskets 0:44:41.520 --> 0:44:43.440 through three quarters or something like that. But then at 0:44:43.440 --> 0:44:46.480 the start of the fourth quarter the Magic gave up 0:44:46.480 --> 0:44:49.920 a twenty five to four run. Suddenly they're down three. 0:44:50.360 --> 0:44:52.960 They give up two offensive rebounds, then it somehow gets 0:44:52.960 --> 0:44:55.800 to Biznack Bimbo, they foul him. He misses two free throws, 0:44:56.160 --> 0:44:58.400 having forty eight fans Terrence Ross in the corner for 0:44:58.440 --> 0:45:00.560 a chuck of a three it somehow go But then 0:45:00.600 --> 0:45:02.799 on the other side, Gordon Hayward in the midst of 0:45:02.800 --> 0:45:05.200 a good game, he drives right past Evan fourtyer for 0:45:05.239 --> 0:45:07.920 a layup with basically nobody at the rim than the 0:45:07.920 --> 0:45:10.480 Magic at the ball on offense, a five second violation. 0:45:10.680 --> 0:45:14.080 Two tough losses for the Magic. They've lost seven of eight. 0:45:14.560 --> 0:45:16.680 Are they tanking? Like? Are the Magic tanking? I know 0:45:16.719 --> 0:45:19.640 that they went south once Markel Foltz got hurt, but 0:45:19.680 --> 0:45:21.760 they haven't done anything to replace him. They've been running 0:45:21.800 --> 0:45:24.600 Aaron Gordon as their point guard, which understandable you want 0:45:24.600 --> 0:45:26.600 to get some more out of some of your best players. 0:45:26.640 --> 0:45:28.960 See if he's the guy that you're gonna actually keep around. 0:45:29.000 --> 0:45:31.200 But they could have done something. They could have brought 0:45:31.239 --> 0:45:34.319 somebody in on an exception. They could have made a move. 0:45:34.719 --> 0:45:36.880 Evan fourty eight could be traded. It doesn't feel like 0:45:36.880 --> 0:45:39.680 they're doing anything to actually make their team better right 0:45:39.719 --> 0:45:41.200 now when they're really really struggling. 0:45:41.719 --> 0:45:45.200 Yeah, Obviously, the injury bug has nailed them. They're missing 0:45:45.200 --> 0:45:47.359 a lot of their guys. But that's tough. I don't know, 0:45:47.520 --> 0:45:49.640 are they tanking. I hadn't thought about that sort of 0:45:49.640 --> 0:45:51.680 a sneaky tank job if they are, because they're in 0:45:51.760 --> 0:45:53.760 all these games. They could have won half these games, 0:45:53.800 --> 0:45:55.320 but they keep coming up short. 0:45:55.600 --> 0:45:57.319 Yeah, but they're like they're happy to run out there 0:45:57.320 --> 0:45:59.680 with Cole Anthony as the point guard, which is understandable 0:45:59.680 --> 0:46:02.280 as well. You want to get a young guy some reps, 0:46:02.320 --> 0:46:04.440 see what he can do. But he's shooting under forty percent. 0:46:04.440 --> 0:46:05.799 You're not gonna win a lot of games like that. 0:46:05.800 --> 0:46:07.839 When you're an offensive team that already struggles. The problem 0:46:07.920 --> 0:46:09.920 is they can't get stops defensively. This is a team 0:46:09.960 --> 0:46:11.960 that has made their bones on the defensive end, staying 0:46:12.000 --> 0:46:13.719 in every game and coming through in the clutch when 0:46:13.719 --> 0:46:16.400 they need to, but the execution has not been there, 0:46:16.480 --> 0:46:17.320 especially this weekend. 0:46:17.640 --> 0:46:19.880 Yeah, for the Magic Team to be like nineteenth or 0:46:19.880 --> 0:46:22.239 twentieth defensive rating is not good because they're never going 0:46:22.320 --> 0:46:24.560 to be a great offensive rating team and they are 0:46:24.600 --> 0:46:28.360 not once again this year. But yeah, you know this 0:46:28.440 --> 0:46:30.040 is just gonna be I hate to say it's just 0:46:30.080 --> 0:46:32.279 gonna be one of these classic magic years where, like 0:46:32.640 --> 0:46:34.960 I don't know, they'll be maybe flirting maybe with the 0:46:35.000 --> 0:46:37.960 play in tournament. I would think i'd picked them. They'll 0:46:37.960 --> 0:46:41.040 be on the outside looking in, just outside. But it's 0:46:41.040 --> 0:46:42.600 not like they're going to be probably the worst team 0:46:42.640 --> 0:46:44.960 in the league either, right lely, like they're just sort 0:46:44.960 --> 0:46:46.799 of stuck in this light little Noman's land. 0:46:46.960 --> 0:46:49.160 Yeah, I mean, guys like forty A and Terrence Rossa 0:46:49.160 --> 0:46:53.000 I would attract some interest on the trademarket, but not much. 0:46:53.080 --> 0:46:54.680 I mean, no one's gonna all of a sudden turn 0:46:54.719 --> 0:46:57.080 around the franchisea So I think they do need to 0:46:57.120 --> 0:47:00.960 tank effect and probably so saught again because you know Vucevich. 0:47:01.000 --> 0:47:03.319 You know, he's one of those guys who he's an 0:47:03.360 --> 0:47:05.360 All Star. He's definitely an Allstar. He was an All 0:47:05.400 --> 0:47:08.080 Star a few years ago. But he just doesn't move 0:47:08.120 --> 0:47:10.000 the needle all that much, even if he's having a 0:47:10.000 --> 0:47:12.839 good season, which he is. But the game last night 0:47:12.840 --> 0:47:15.319 against the Hornets was definitely there. I mean, I know 0:47:15.440 --> 0:47:17.239 you mentioned the Pacers as well, but that was there 0:47:17.280 --> 0:47:19.319 to be won, and in the fourth quarter they got 0:47:19.320 --> 0:47:22.600 the yips and could not finish this game, couldn't score 0:47:22.640 --> 0:47:25.520 down the stretch, whereas Gordon Hayward could. And Gordon Hayward 0:47:25.520 --> 0:47:28.440 I absolutely loved his game winning drive there he went inside, 0:47:28.440 --> 0:47:30.600 he didn't go over the hero ball. Instead, he made 0:47:30.640 --> 0:47:33.279 a solid move, got inside, laid it up, beautiful way 0:47:33.320 --> 0:47:35.919 to finish the game. Had thirty nine points, and this 0:47:36.000 --> 0:47:38.440 was one that was like, You're going to get teams 0:47:38.520 --> 0:47:40.600 like Charlotte who are a little bit up and down themselves, 0:47:40.719 --> 0:47:42.440 and when you're in a position to finish them off, 0:47:42.480 --> 0:47:44.840 you have to do that. And Orlando just couldn't do it. 0:47:44.840 --> 0:47:48.239 And again it's both ends. Couldn't execute defensively and offensively. 0:47:48.239 --> 0:47:51.480 It wasn't any better. So yeah, two and eight in 0:47:51.480 --> 0:47:54.279 their last ten. I think they were probably punching above 0:47:54.320 --> 0:47:56.600 their way at the start of the season, acknowledging they 0:47:56.600 --> 0:47:58.239 have lost some players to injuries. But again, I mean 0:47:58.280 --> 0:48:00.759 Fulks was having a decent season, but not like, oh 0:48:00.760 --> 0:48:03.040 my god, how can they compete now without fults out there? 0:48:03.080 --> 0:48:06.200 So yeah, not sure really what the prospects are for 0:48:06.280 --> 0:48:07.640 the Magic for the rest of the season. 0:48:08.120 --> 0:48:10.560 I loved watching Gordon Hayward's drive, but for a couple 0:48:10.600 --> 0:48:14.080 of different reasons. First, watching Evan Fournier guard him. I 0:48:14.120 --> 0:48:16.920 was shocked, the shock that he was guarding him. I 0:48:16.960 --> 0:48:19.960 thought there must be like sixteen switches that have happened 0:48:20.000 --> 0:48:22.080 to have Evan Fournier gardener because he's not a defensive 0:48:22.120 --> 0:48:24.600 stopp or, he's an offensive guy. And Evan Fournier he 0:48:24.680 --> 0:48:28.040 got cooked. And then at the rim, Yeah, ken Burch 0:48:28.200 --> 0:48:31.319 was super late getting over there to help out, and 0:48:31.360 --> 0:48:36.040 Steve Clifford, Magic's head coach, was leave it and to 0:48:36.120 --> 0:48:39.680 see him get right in ken Birch's face into the 0:48:39.719 --> 0:48:43.120 trees face and get super angry that it was a 0:48:43.120 --> 0:48:46.279 good play. But yeah, Gordon Hayward super pumped for that 0:48:46.400 --> 0:48:49.680 drive to finish it a thirty nine point game. Guy's 0:48:49.719 --> 0:48:52.560 ballin this four to thirty point game of the season. 0:48:53.040 --> 0:48:55.240 The offense is there, and they're one of those Eastern 0:48:55.239 --> 0:48:58.000 Conference teams that are Yeah, they could be good, they 0:48:58.080 --> 0:49:01.319 might not be. It's surprising with him playing so well 0:49:01.360 --> 0:49:04.960 that they're at seven to nine. I believe that that 0:49:05.239 --> 0:49:07.520 popped him up to seven and nine. It should be 0:49:07.520 --> 0:49:10.680 better than that. They should, you know, with with Lonzo Ball, 0:49:11.320 --> 0:49:15.439 not Lonzo the other one, LaMelo Ball playing that well, 0:49:15.640 --> 0:49:17.279 you know that they co'd expect them to be better 0:49:17.280 --> 0:49:19.279 than seven nine, and now they got Cody z back 0:49:19.360 --> 0:49:22.200 as well. But on the other side, yeah, the Magic. 0:49:23.000 --> 0:49:24.920 They would have rather had Mark l Folts on him, 0:49:24.960 --> 0:49:27.479 he's hurt. Rather have Aaron Gordon on him, he's hurt. 0:49:27.880 --> 0:49:30.400 They would rather have Michael Carter Williams on him. Is 0:49:30.440 --> 0:49:32.279 Michael Carter Williams back. I'm not sure they'd rather to 0:49:32.280 --> 0:49:35.239 have Jonathan Isaac on him. Yeah, so, yeah, they are 0:49:35.280 --> 0:49:35.759 banged up. 0:49:36.440 --> 0:49:37.640 Lee. What's your favorite tree? 0:49:39.400 --> 0:49:41.799 Probably the gum tree? Okay, classy gum tree. 0:49:41.840 --> 0:49:43.960 Yeah, I asked you that before. 0:49:44.080 --> 0:49:46.480 Yeah, I think so. I think we've talked about trees 0:49:46.960 --> 0:49:50.280 because they were in Athens. Remember that's for the Olympics. 0:49:50.280 --> 0:49:50.640 I remember. 0:49:50.920 --> 0:49:53.879 It's a beautiful I love I love a birch tree, though. 0:49:53.960 --> 0:49:56.239 I do like how a birch tree looks. That's why 0:49:56.280 --> 0:49:59.399 I was papery exactly. Do you have a favorite tree? 0:49:59.640 --> 0:49:59.799 Try? 0:50:00.640 --> 0:50:03.359 My favorite Southern tree is the crape myrtle. I like those. 0:50:03.400 --> 0:50:05.319 I like that smooth look you get on the bark there. 0:50:05.520 --> 0:50:08.600 Yeah, it's really nice. Good good tree picks. Test. I mean, 0:50:08.840 --> 0:50:10.360 I'll finish this off. You got a favorite tree? 0:50:10.600 --> 0:50:12.680 We're staying in the South. You know, I have got 0:50:12.719 --> 0:50:15.120 different regions. I like different trees in the South. The 0:50:15.160 --> 0:50:18.160 Spanish moss. It's an amazing tree. 0:50:18.760 --> 0:50:22.600 Remind me what we're talking about. It's like very moss 0:50:22.680 --> 0:50:23.200 like appearance. 0:50:23.239 --> 0:50:27.040 I assume absolutely, it's like it's like a weeping willow. 0:50:27.200 --> 0:50:29.000 Okay, sort of nice. 0:50:29.440 --> 0:50:30.239 It's a unique tree. 0:50:30.320 --> 0:50:32.800 Yeah, beautiful tree. JD. Do you have a favorite tree? 0:50:33.320 --> 0:50:37.440 Yeah, it's the maple obviously, so. 0:50:37.440 --> 0:50:39.839 You like this, you'd like to tap that? Eh, tap 0:50:39.920 --> 0:50:40.239 that tree? 0:50:40.400 --> 0:50:41.760 Like to tap that tree? 0:50:44.160 --> 0:50:47.080 Kinky son of a bit? All right, my loser of 0:50:47.120 --> 0:50:49.480 the weekend, I'll go with the Wizards. Let's keep this 0:50:49.600 --> 0:50:50.080 very quickly. 0:50:50.360 --> 0:50:50.560 Now. 0:50:50.640 --> 0:50:52.080 The Wizards are sort of in a weird way a 0:50:52.120 --> 0:50:54.160 winter of the weekend because they're actually back playing basketball. 0:50:54.200 --> 0:50:55.960 Do you guys remember the Wizards. They're one of the 0:50:55.960 --> 0:50:58.200 teams in this league. They hadn't played in like two weeks, 0:50:58.200 --> 0:51:00.600 but they did play on Sunday. Thing Is came back 0:51:00.719 --> 0:51:02.440 and they got their ass handed to them in the 0:51:02.440 --> 0:51:04.480 second half by the Spurs. They lost by twenty. They 0:51:04.520 --> 0:51:07.319 had good start and they were spunky to start, but 0:51:07.440 --> 0:51:09.960 then they just got hammered as the game went on. 0:51:10.040 --> 0:51:13.359 They tired. They're short on guys. I mean, they're it's 0:51:13.400 --> 0:51:16.239 getting desperate there. You know, they're signing Alex lenn and 0:51:16.360 --> 0:51:18.920 Jordan Bell. If you got a short last name, you 0:51:18.960 --> 0:51:22.160 can play for this team. They want to save money 0:51:22.160 --> 0:51:23.960 on the letters on the back of their jerseys, right, 0:51:24.320 --> 0:51:26.279 so they going for short names. I think Jeremy Lynn 0:51:26.320 --> 0:51:27.880 might get a call over or it might be in 0:51:27.920 --> 0:51:30.320 the Wizard's uniforms soon. But anyway, Westbrook was back in the lineup. 0:51:30.400 --> 0:51:32.000 I bring this up for a real loser the weekend. 0:51:32.320 --> 0:51:34.320 Did you guys see Westbrook? I mean it is u 0:51:34.680 --> 0:51:37.000 he probably should not even be playing. He is coming 0:51:37.000 --> 0:51:39.160 off of an injury. I think it's that quad injury, right, 0:51:39.239 --> 0:51:41.959 and then playing in a while rough in this one 0:51:41.960 --> 0:51:45.680 man three of eleven four turnovers, he's a minus twenty 0:51:45.760 --> 0:51:48.960 and twenty five minutes. I know it's one of your 0:51:48.960 --> 0:51:53.800 favorite stats. Lee, So Russ, I mean, I hope, I hope. 0:51:53.840 --> 0:51:55.719 I hope he can get back to a little bit 0:51:55.719 --> 0:51:57.799 more of the rust of holds. But I'm worried that 0:51:58.480 --> 0:52:00.920 we'll see that at all this year, maybe especially if 0:52:00.920 --> 0:52:02.560 he has to try and like continue to play through 0:52:02.560 --> 0:52:06.600 these lingering issues, injury issues. It's bad. 0:52:07.360 --> 0:52:10.240 Well, and also what's he playing for in there in Washington. 0:52:10.239 --> 0:52:12.040 They're probably not going to make the playoffs, you know, 0:52:12.080 --> 0:52:13.719 and I think he could sort of see like maybe 0:52:13.760 --> 0:52:16.000 it was the bit of the layoff there. But watching 0:52:16.000 --> 0:52:17.719 that game, I was like, he's just like I wish 0:52:17.800 --> 0:52:20.480 I wasn't here, you know, I think he'd rather be 0:52:20.520 --> 0:52:23.719 anywhere else at the moment, because it just feels like he's, 0:52:23.760 --> 0:52:25.080 you know, at the stage of his career where he 0:52:25.120 --> 0:52:27.040 wants to be at least close to a championship, and 0:52:27.080 --> 0:52:29.080 it's a battle just to get to the playoffs. So 0:52:29.600 --> 0:52:32.400 the only real hope is for Bradley build is you know, 0:52:32.440 --> 0:52:34.160 the only positive would be if he can lead the 0:52:34.200 --> 0:52:36.920 league in scoring for the entire season. That's something. 0:52:38.719 --> 0:52:41.799 Wow, that's the next time you have hammer On ask him, 0:52:41.840 --> 0:52:43.839 would you rather lead the league in scoring and win 0:52:43.960 --> 0:52:46.720 three games all year or would you rather win sixty 0:52:46.760 --> 0:52:49.279 games and you know, score five points for you Yeah, 0:52:49.360 --> 0:52:50.000 it would be the question. 0:52:50.520 --> 0:52:53.279 But they Yeah, the Wizards have to figure out a 0:52:53.280 --> 0:52:54.600 way to move on and rebuild. 0:52:54.680 --> 0:52:56.560 I mean, how long Scutty Brook's going to have this job. 0:52:56.640 --> 0:52:57.319 Let's be honest here. 0:52:57.480 --> 0:52:59.080 Well, I think it's the last Yeah, I think the 0:52:59.160 --> 0:53:01.279 last year of his contented and it's like, well, you 0:53:01.320 --> 0:53:04.400 may as well let him finish this season, I guess, 0:53:04.600 --> 0:53:06.080 because who wants that job? 0:53:06.880 --> 0:53:09.200 I would say, do the opposite. Get someone else in here, 0:53:09.280 --> 0:53:11.320 see if they can shake it up. I get something 0:53:11.360 --> 0:53:11.879 else going. 0:53:12.800 --> 0:53:14.960 They need to. They just need to hit the rebuild button. 0:53:15.160 --> 0:53:17.560 They smash it and see what you can get for Beale, 0:53:17.520 --> 0:53:19.000 and see what you can get for Westbrook. Get some 0:53:19.040 --> 0:53:21.160 picks and start again next season. 0:53:21.160 --> 0:53:26.600 I think that Maple Tree and yeah, yeah, Leally, what 0:53:26.600 --> 0:53:28.560 do you got for loser the weekend? Finish us off here? 0:53:28.680 --> 0:53:31.120 Yeah? So you remember on Friday Show of course, where 0:53:31.160 --> 0:53:34.480 Shack got worst of the week for calling out Donovan Mitchell. 0:53:34.520 --> 0:53:37.600 Well it got worse for Shack over the weekend because 0:53:38.640 --> 0:53:43.520 an Instagram usic named klso Scooped, who does great work. Actually, 0:53:43.520 --> 0:53:45.840 by the way, great artwork, put up a picture of 0:53:45.920 --> 0:53:50.520 Donovan Mitchell dunking on Miami heat Shack like that, and 0:53:50.680 --> 0:53:53.200 I said, Shaq, don't really want the smoke with the spider, 0:53:53.280 --> 0:53:56.279 beautiful job. You know it's a photoshop. Obviously it's a 0:53:56.280 --> 0:54:00.920 photo shop. Well, Shaq didn't appreciate that too much and 0:54:01.000 --> 0:54:04.720 he slid into kalso Scopes DMS there and he said 0:54:05.000 --> 0:54:09.839 shut Joel Dama Domas up and kalso Scope did the 0:54:09.840 --> 0:54:12.080 worst thing by putting it up there, putting it on 0:54:12.080 --> 0:54:14.640 the Instagram and saying, look, he didn't like it. He 0:54:14.680 --> 0:54:17.839 didn't appreciate that. Now, the reason I bring this up 0:54:17.880 --> 0:54:20.840 is because a lot of people who were defending Shack's 0:54:21.200 --> 0:54:24.160 approach or for what he said to Donovan Mitchell Howse 0:54:24.160 --> 0:54:26.440 so we're like, you know, these young guys can't take criticism. Well, 0:54:27.080 --> 0:54:31.600 oh guys apparently can't take a bit of banter either. 0:54:31.800 --> 0:54:35.279 Shack not happy with that. So I think that just 0:54:35.320 --> 0:54:38.839 makes Shack look a little a little petty and not 0:54:38.880 --> 0:54:42.320 being able to handle a jokey sort of critics. Critic, critic, 0:54:42.840 --> 0:54:44.920 critical attack on himself. I don't know what the hell, 0:54:45.160 --> 0:54:50.520 but you can't slide into anyone's DMS these days because 0:54:50.520 --> 0:54:52.600 if you do, people are just going to light you 0:54:52.719 --> 0:54:57.200 up and say, look, man, you look pasthetic. So, you know, Shack, 0:54:58.000 --> 0:55:00.080 it wasn't good what he said to Donovan how he 0:55:00.120 --> 0:55:02.839 said it, and he could have at least manned up 0:55:02.840 --> 0:55:04.720 and have been like, yeah, you know, maybe I shouldn't 0:55:04.719 --> 0:55:05.080 say that. 0:55:05.360 --> 0:55:08.000 What icy heart with, you. 0:55:07.960 --> 0:55:12.640 Know, Lebron. In the general Lebron and Kevin Durant were 0:55:12.640 --> 0:55:15.680 also also made a few comments about you know, Shak's 0:55:15.680 --> 0:55:18.359 approach there, and I think it was right. So yeah, 0:55:18.520 --> 0:55:20.520 I think in the end, Shack did get dunked on 0:55:20.840 --> 0:55:24.200 in the in the social media sense rather than in 0:55:24.200 --> 0:55:25.440 the en court sense. 0:55:26.000 --> 0:55:28.440 Okay, Yeah, we talked about this in Greek detail on 0:55:28.680 --> 0:55:31.719 Friday's podcast, but Lee pointing out that just great art, 0:55:32.080 --> 0:55:33.759 that critical attack of. 0:55:33.880 --> 0:55:41.440 Art boys got me. 0:55:41.960 --> 0:55:44.000 You know, you know, I was thinking about it because 0:55:44.000 --> 0:55:47.239 he because he posted, you know, Miami Heat Shack, who 0:55:47.280 --> 0:55:49.880 was still decent. You know, he won championship there with 0:55:49.880 --> 0:55:52.080 a Heat. Would it have been better to put up 0:55:52.160 --> 0:55:55.439 like Phoenix Suns or Cleveland Cavaliers or even Celtic Shack, 0:55:56.239 --> 0:55:58.360 you know? Or would you or would you go the 0:55:58.400 --> 0:56:01.279 other way and put Laker's shack Orlando Shack where he 0:56:01.440 --> 0:56:03.719 was being indominant and he's still getting dunked on, like 0:56:04.080 --> 0:56:04.880 is it? Is it more? 0:56:05.080 --> 0:56:07.680 I think the Heat's the perfect sweet spot, that's. 0:56:07.560 --> 0:56:10.040 Why, right, Yeah, so he was still good enough, still 0:56:10.040 --> 0:56:11.600 an old stop. Yeah, I guess he was an old 0:56:11.600 --> 0:56:13.479 start in Phoenix as well. It was his last season, 0:56:13.560 --> 0:56:15.960 but yeah, I was thinking, like, you know, if you 0:56:15.960 --> 0:56:19.200 put him up as Shack, like his shack, it's like, oh, 0:56:19.239 --> 0:56:22.000 he's dunking on in a super prime Shack, you know. 0:56:23.080 --> 0:56:24.719 But then you could also just say you put him 0:56:24.760 --> 0:56:26.279 up as the old man Shack getting dunked on. 0:56:26.480 --> 0:56:28.759 Oh, so you got to find the right photo. Come on, man, 0:56:28.920 --> 0:56:31.439 like the photoshop boys, you can't. You got to hope 0:56:31.480 --> 0:56:34.360 there's a good photo from behind of maybe Shack getting 0:56:34.400 --> 0:56:36.719 dunked on previously, then you can photo shop. But in 0:56:36.840 --> 0:56:37.800 that's how this worked. 0:56:37.960 --> 0:56:40.759 One thing I was wondering about. I was wondering, was 0:56:40.800 --> 0:56:45.360 that Shack because what the artist definitely did was accentuate 0:56:45.440 --> 0:56:47.399 hit the role in the back of his head. Yeah, 0:56:47.440 --> 0:56:50.400 you see that that extra little neck role there, making 0:56:50.400 --> 0:56:52.520 Shack look as chunky as possible. 0:56:52.680 --> 0:56:54.960 So you're saying, so you're saying task, maybe this is 0:56:55.000 --> 0:56:57.560 somebody else, and that he's just done a great job 0:56:57.560 --> 0:56:59.839 on the jersey and putting in O'Neil and stuff like that. 0:57:00.320 --> 0:57:04.760 I don't know. I mean, the level said this critical attack, 0:57:05.080 --> 0:57:08.680 it's you know, I don't know, it looks like Shack. 0:57:09.160 --> 0:57:11.439 It definitely, it definitely looks like Shack. Who else could 0:57:11.440 --> 0:57:11.640 it be? 0:57:12.840 --> 0:57:12.960 Art? 0:57:13.000 --> 0:57:13.719 Attack man. 0:57:13.880 --> 0:57:19.040 Wow, Carso Scope with the Critical Attack doing. 0:57:19.000 --> 0:57:21.840 Emergency podcast for any time there's a critical art attack, 0:57:24.120 --> 0:57:24.720 go and check. 0:57:24.600 --> 0:57:26.480 Him out though on Instagram he's got some good nice 0:57:26.560 --> 0:57:27.000 I never. 0:57:27.320 --> 0:57:29.480 Was actually I was gonna say, I've never heard of this, 0:57:29.480 --> 0:57:31.800 this Instagram account. You seem to be a fan. Do 0:57:31.840 --> 0:57:32.280 you follow? 0:57:32.760 --> 0:57:32.880 No? 0:57:32.960 --> 0:57:36.000 I don't, but I know well only because I saw it. 0:57:36.000 --> 0:57:37.400 It was it was going making the round, so I 0:57:37.560 --> 0:57:39.120 checked it out and I scrolled through. 0:57:39.680 --> 0:57:41.040 What else has he done? 0:57:41.320 --> 0:57:44.000 Well, there's a Loonzo and LaVar not LaVar, Lonzo and 0:57:44.040 --> 0:57:46.240 LaMelo sort of going up against each other. There's a 0:57:46.320 --> 0:57:46.880 nice one there. 0:57:46.920 --> 0:57:49.560 Well, so he does a thing where he's merging past 0:57:49.640 --> 0:57:51.440 and the president. Yeah, very nice. 0:57:51.640 --> 0:57:53.640 But does it really well too? It wouldn't be like 0:57:53.720 --> 0:57:55.360 if I did it where you could clearly just see 0:57:55.520 --> 0:57:58.320 like two photos slap together like he actually blends it in. 0:57:58.400 --> 0:57:59.120 It makes it look good. 0:57:59.520 --> 0:58:01.840 Maybe they do one of like a young le Ls 0:58:02.560 --> 0:58:05.080 and old playing each other like you see that MJ 0:58:05.240 --> 0:58:07.800 one every once in a while, right, Like ye'd be awesome. 0:58:08.160 --> 0:58:12.280 Yeah, reach out Ty Winter in the stream team, says 0:58:12.480 --> 0:58:14.920 Joel Anthony. That's who I was thinking. It does look 0:58:15.000 --> 0:58:19.440 Oh the rear the rear head of Canadian Joel Anthony 0:58:21.920 --> 0:58:22.720 in the rear head. 0:58:24.560 --> 0:58:28.200 Okay, amazing. Well those are our winners and losers of 0:58:28.320 --> 0:58:30.640 the weekend. I'm sure we miss some, so you let 0:58:30.720 --> 0:58:32.320 us know in the YouTube comments. Let us know right 0:58:32.320 --> 0:58:34.600 now if you're the stream teamers or tweet us at 0:58:34.640 --> 0:58:36.919 No dunk stake a little bit of news, guys before 0:58:36.960 --> 0:58:39.160 we start wrapping this up. The Brooklyn Nets will have 0:58:39.240 --> 0:58:42.160 some extra cash to use to try and sign or 0:58:42.240 --> 0:58:44.840 trade for an additional player because the league granted their 0:58:44.920 --> 0:58:49.880 application for a five point seven million disabled player exception 0:58:50.520 --> 0:58:53.480 for Spencer Dinwiddie, who is of course out for the 0:58:53.560 --> 0:58:55.920 rest of the season. Tasks, where are they going to go? 0:58:56.040 --> 0:58:57.080 What are they how are they going to put this 0:58:57.160 --> 0:58:57.800 money to use? 0:58:57.880 --> 0:59:00.720 Man, Well, I'll say first and formal. People want to 0:59:00.760 --> 0:59:03.720 play with the Brooklyn Nets when they see those three 0:59:03.760 --> 0:59:08.240 offensive weapons, go at it. I heard Richard Jefferson, analysts 0:59:08.280 --> 0:59:10.200 for the Brooklyn Nets, right now, talking about, well maybe 0:59:10.240 --> 0:59:11.960 I can get out there for eighteen minutes. And you know, 0:59:12.080 --> 0:59:14.640 Richard Jefferson is a joker, but I think deep down 0:59:14.720 --> 0:59:17.600 he's thinking what a lot of veteran NBA players are thinking. 0:59:17.920 --> 0:59:20.600 I could go play with those dudes. And speaking of 0:59:21.080 --> 0:59:24.240 you know former players that kind of look like Shaquille O'Neil, 0:59:24.320 --> 0:59:26.960 kind of look like Joel Anthony from the back, Dwayne 0:59:27.040 --> 0:59:29.680 Deadman is available. I know he I know, maybe he's 0:59:30.200 --> 0:59:34.480 you know, not your rim alter that you desire. You know, 0:59:34.560 --> 0:59:36.600 he is more of a but he's a tough guy. 0:59:36.880 --> 0:59:40.480 He is very tough. He's willing to lay the hammer 0:59:40.560 --> 0:59:42.640 down when need be. That's what the Brooklyn Nets want. 0:59:42.720 --> 0:59:46.000 That's what Kevin Durant is yelling at Reggie Perry every time. 0:59:46.120 --> 0:59:48.560 Come on that. DeAndre Jordans like he just wants a 0:59:48.920 --> 0:59:51.360 you know, a real physical guy in the lane. So 0:59:51.480 --> 0:59:54.440 Dwayne Deadmon could be a guy. And I'm sure anybody 0:59:54.520 --> 0:59:58.160 would want to play with those guys. I'm not. The 0:59:58.280 --> 1:00:00.120 thing is, you got to go get a big and 1:00:00.240 --> 1:00:04.440 you you probably want another wing defender because Kevin Durant 1:00:04.520 --> 1:00:07.480 is having to do so much against the big wing defenders. 1:00:07.560 --> 1:00:10.680 That seems like every team has there. They got a 1:00:10.720 --> 1:00:11.800 couple of needs out there. 1:00:12.120 --> 1:00:16.200 Well, they recently signed free to forward Norvel Pell right, 1:00:16.560 --> 1:00:19.240 the Nets did to help the front court. But you're 1:00:19.280 --> 1:00:22.680 you're right, I mean, Denman, I think is available. Randy 1:00:22.760 --> 1:00:25.280 Hollis Jefferson is available to right, so he could be had, 1:00:26.080 --> 1:00:28.320 but those guys or yeah, in fact check me on that. 1:00:28.360 --> 1:00:30.680 I think he is though, but those guys could be 1:00:30.760 --> 1:00:33.080 sort of had for I would assume the minimum if 1:00:33.080 --> 1:00:35.960 they're not on a roster. So will they wait with 1:00:36.120 --> 1:00:38.920 this dpe to use that, you know, which is obviously 1:00:39.000 --> 1:00:40.880 a much more good chunk of money to use on 1:00:41.040 --> 1:00:43.200 someone that comes out in the buyout candidate market and 1:00:43.200 --> 1:00:46.040 stuff like that, or in a trade, you know, for 1:00:46.280 --> 1:00:48.560 like a McGee. We talked about JaVale McGee as possibility 1:00:48.680 --> 1:00:50.760 or like, I don't know, can Biambo be in play 1:00:50.840 --> 1:00:52.880 there or something like that, Ed Davis, I know his 1:00:53.000 --> 1:00:55.400 name has been thrown around or maybe, like you said, 1:00:55.440 --> 1:00:56.840 task like a wing guy. I love the idea of 1:00:56.840 --> 1:00:59.120 them getting Rondy Hollis Jefferson back on the nets. I 1:00:59.200 --> 1:01:00.760 think that makes a lot of sense. He'd give you 1:01:01.040 --> 1:01:03.480 some defensive presence. No, Tree, you don't think so a 1:01:03.520 --> 1:01:03.840 little bit. 1:01:04.120 --> 1:01:05.840 I think they're done with him. I think most troubles 1:01:05.840 --> 1:01:07.720 are done with him. If a team wanted him for defense, 1:01:07.760 --> 1:01:09.840 that should have been the Minnesota Timberwolves who had him, 1:01:09.920 --> 1:01:12.240 and they just said no. The worry I would have 1:01:12.800 --> 1:01:14.960 is it seems like Jabealo McGee would be the perfect candidate. 1:01:15.040 --> 1:01:17.040 But are there enough basketballs to go around? Did you 1:01:17.080 --> 1:01:20.560 see Jamiel handling the ball on the fast break this weekend? 1:01:21.080 --> 1:01:23.160 I don't know if Steve Nash is gonna be able 1:01:23.160 --> 1:01:26.080 to find touches for four elite ball handlers out there tray. 1:01:26.400 --> 1:01:27.840 That was Javal McGee. 1:01:27.960 --> 1:01:28.280 What he did. 1:01:28.320 --> 1:01:31.560 This was Trey Kirby at the pickup runs. It took 1:01:31.600 --> 1:01:34.120 me back, It made me long to play hoops agains 1:01:34.240 --> 1:01:37.560 like oh Man every once every Wednesday night. That would 1:01:37.600 --> 1:01:39.760 be a Trey Kirby Jabal McGee like fast freak where 1:01:39.800 --> 1:01:40.720 he's getting fancy with. 1:01:40.800 --> 1:01:44.360 It, rumbling bumbling, stumbling down the court. If you get 1:01:44.480 --> 1:01:46.919 a rebound, is a big guy at the free throw line, 1:01:47.080 --> 1:01:50.480 it is your obligation to take it the full length 1:01:50.520 --> 1:01:52.960 of the clurk coast to coast and finish with a 1:01:53.040 --> 1:01:53.720 ridiculous shot. 1:01:53.800 --> 1:01:56.560 What are resurgence for Javal McGee's career. A couple of 1:01:56.640 --> 1:01:59.320 years ago out of the league, completely wins a couple 1:01:59.360 --> 1:02:01.800 of championship with the Worries, one of the Lakers, and 1:02:01.920 --> 1:02:06.080 now he's a fun uh impactful vet on the Cats. 1:02:06.200 --> 1:02:07.560 I mean, it's just incredible. 1:02:07.640 --> 1:02:09.560 This guy he was he was just a clown there 1:02:09.600 --> 1:02:10.880 for a couple of years, and now it's just like 1:02:11.040 --> 1:02:13.600 he's fun to watch and he plays well and it's 1:02:13.640 --> 1:02:15.640 great for the Nets to have, for the Cats to 1:02:15.680 --> 1:02:16.840 have him on that team. 1:02:17.120 --> 1:02:19.680 And his name comes up on our podcast every second 1:02:19.760 --> 1:02:21.880 day because we keep talking about, like, oh, Juelle McGee 1:02:21.920 --> 1:02:23.920 could be had any I don't wonder who could get him. 1:02:24.240 --> 1:02:26.400 It's like shades of twenty twelve to me. I feel 1:02:26.440 --> 1:02:28.320 like at the trade deadline that year, we talked about 1:02:28.440 --> 1:02:32.200 Ramon Sessions non stop. We're like, oh man, this is 1:02:32.320 --> 1:02:34.240 it for the Lakers, this is what they've needed the 1:02:34.320 --> 1:02:37.080 whole time, somebody to run that second unit. We're talking 1:02:37.120 --> 1:02:40.640 about JaVale McGhee here, the veteran leader, but honestly, he 1:02:40.640 --> 1:02:41.680 would help the Nets the. 1:02:41.720 --> 1:02:43.360 Non Sessions had a twenty assist game. 1:02:43.880 --> 1:02:46.160 Yeah, he had a forty point game too. I think 1:02:46.680 --> 1:02:49.480 Sessions he was just the hottest thing in fantasy. The 1:02:49.600 --> 1:02:51.440 following season was like get Ramon Session. 1:02:51.520 --> 1:02:51.680 Yeah. 1:02:51.720 --> 1:02:55.120 I was like, Nah, twenty boards is roast beef. What 1:02:55.160 --> 1:02:56.160 would twenty assists be? 1:02:57.680 --> 1:03:00.760 That's a good question, great question saved. Think it over, 1:03:00.880 --> 1:03:02.880 think it over for tray, have something tomorrow. 1:03:03.080 --> 1:03:05.920 I'm not a passer task. There's ale to come up 1:03:05.960 --> 1:03:06.640 with something like this. 1:03:09.640 --> 1:03:11.840 All right, let's get to tweet of the night. 1:03:14.080 --> 1:03:15.080 Tweet of the night. 1:03:15.880 --> 1:03:16.160 Wow. 1:03:19.360 --> 1:03:23.160 JD my man coming through always with the Monday tweet 1:03:23.320 --> 1:03:24.640 of the night. Yet all weekend? 1:03:24.840 --> 1:03:26.160 Which got your hat all weekend? 1:03:26.240 --> 1:03:26.560 It can't. 1:03:26.600 --> 1:03:29.080 It comes from yesterday actually, and it was the big 1:03:29.280 --> 1:03:32.880 story on everyone's mind is that the stage has been 1:03:33.000 --> 1:03:35.480 set for an epic showdown and it's one we've all 1:03:35.560 --> 1:03:39.760 been waiting for. We have a literal clash of titans coming. 1:03:40.160 --> 1:03:43.680 People are comparing it to Lebron versus Jordan in the 1:03:43.840 --> 1:03:47.320 NBA finals. I saw this quote on CNN. It's the 1:03:47.440 --> 1:03:51.160 meeting of the goat and his potential successor, and the 1:03:51.320 --> 1:03:54.400 fans are salivating at the prospect. 1:03:55.200 --> 1:03:55.320 Uh. 1:03:55.920 --> 1:03:59.640 I'm of course talking of God's Illa versus calm Be. 1:04:00.360 --> 1:04:04.160 The trailer dropped this weekend and uh, you know, I 1:04:04.280 --> 1:04:07.480 mean people are pumped. It's the King of Monsters versus 1:04:07.640 --> 1:04:13.720 the King of Kong's I guess King Kong. And there 1:04:13.800 --> 1:04:16.480 is an NBI a tie in here because Kevin Durant 1:04:16.800 --> 1:04:21.280 already calling it. I can't see Godzilla losing this match. 1:04:21.600 --> 1:04:26.200 I mean, yeah, but what did Katie think would Gregor 1:04:26.280 --> 1:04:27.120 fight heading in? Oh? 1:04:27.800 --> 1:04:30.400 Oh, that's a good, good question. I don't know, that's 1:04:30.440 --> 1:04:33.840 a bold prediction. I mean, Rebecca Hall, one of the 1:04:33.880 --> 1:04:35.920 actresses in the film, is she says it right in 1:04:35.960 --> 1:04:37.720 the trailer, Kong bows to know what? 1:04:38.880 --> 1:04:41.160 So, I mean that doesn't mean he's gonna win. 1:04:42.520 --> 1:04:45.440 Yeah, I guess, well, who would you who would you 1:04:45.760 --> 1:04:47.040 favor in this matchup? Oh? 1:04:47.120 --> 1:04:51.520 I know I'm going Kong for sure, going, I'm going Wow. 1:04:51.680 --> 1:04:54.919 Yeah, I mean it makes sense, like not having any 1:04:54.960 --> 1:04:57.880 idea what the actual story is, but like Kong is 1:04:58.000 --> 1:05:03.200 sort of like, oh, like Earth's right, did we make 1:05:03.280 --> 1:05:05.560 cong I don't know, I don't know. Anyway, he feels 1:05:05.600 --> 1:05:08.160 like he's on our side more than Godzilla. This like 1:05:08.600 --> 1:05:10.840 you know, Monster from the Sea. 1:05:10.920 --> 1:05:14.200 I guess you're right right by nuclear weapons, you know. 1:05:14.400 --> 1:05:18.240 But the but Godzilla was sort of a good guy 1:05:18.320 --> 1:05:20.560 in the end, wasn't he in the last film? I 1:05:20.680 --> 1:05:23.960 mean I can't remember. I think he was defending mankind 1:05:24.280 --> 1:05:27.000 and now and now I guess Godzilla is the bad 1:05:27.080 --> 1:05:30.200 guy if you live long enough to be the hero, 1:05:30.440 --> 1:05:31.360 you become the villain. 1:05:31.440 --> 1:05:31.880 Was that? 1:05:32.000 --> 1:05:32.320 How good? 1:05:32.480 --> 1:05:33.040 Something like that? 1:05:33.240 --> 1:05:33.439 Yeah? 1:05:34.440 --> 1:05:38.000 And then a quick addition here, since we were taught 1:05:38.000 --> 1:05:41.840 we were talking nicknames earlier and big dumb movies. The 1:05:41.920 --> 1:05:46.600 Athletics own Chris Kirshner with this hot news yesterday, John 1:05:46.680 --> 1:05:50.240 Collins shared that the Hawks training staff has given D'Angelo 1:05:50.400 --> 1:05:53.040 Hunter the nick megatron DeAndre. 1:05:52.760 --> 1:05:54.680 Sorry, what did I say, D'Angelo? 1:05:55.480 --> 1:05:57.880 Did I say D'Angelo? I'm literally reading it and the 1:06:00.280 --> 1:06:05.480 terrible at this I don't anyway, uh, he quickly corrected. 1:06:06.440 --> 1:06:10.800 It's actually he wants to be called optimists, not Megatron, 1:06:11.440 --> 1:06:14.600 So Megatron's better though, No, I mean. 1:06:14.520 --> 1:06:18.479 Well, yeah, but Megatron was the nickname of a wide 1:06:18.480 --> 1:06:22.160 receiver at Calvin Johnson Football, So maybe it's like, has 1:06:22.200 --> 1:06:23.560 there been an Optimist before? 1:06:23.760 --> 1:06:26.640 I don't know there was? There was a Grimes, wasn't 1:06:26.680 --> 1:06:28.880 there optimist? Crime? 1:06:29.040 --> 1:06:29.160 Is that? 1:06:29.360 --> 1:06:29.600 Is that a? 1:06:29.880 --> 1:06:30.840 Is that a basketball player? 1:06:30.840 --> 1:06:34.160 I think John Wall was optimist dime on basketball? 1:06:34.640 --> 1:06:36.480 Oh, yeah, you're right, Yeah. 1:06:36.520 --> 1:06:37.840 Maybe he just doesn't want to be the bad guy 1:06:38.000 --> 1:06:40.920 DeAndre Hunter. Let D'Angelo Hunter be Megatron. 1:06:43.040 --> 1:06:44.800 Well who do you just to circle back? Who do 1:06:44.880 --> 1:06:48.240 you like in the Godzilla versus Calm matchup, lely. 1:06:50.000 --> 1:06:55.240 Well, I mean, if you're talking a crocodile of us 1:06:55.400 --> 1:07:02.200 is as if it's on land, I mean, I guess 1:07:02.280 --> 1:07:04.920 the eight can can get on top of him and 1:07:05.360 --> 1:07:06.240 do the business there. 1:07:06.560 --> 1:07:09.919 Okay, you're like the like calm with a submission what round? 1:07:10.600 --> 1:07:13.200 That's probably what I'm saying. But if it's near the water, 1:07:13.480 --> 1:07:16.280 then the crocodile I think can take care of him, 1:07:16.440 --> 1:07:18.720 you know, So I think it favors which which home 1:07:18.800 --> 1:07:20.120 ground advantage you have there? 1:07:21.080 --> 1:07:21.480 What if? 1:07:21.640 --> 1:07:23.760 What if the crocodile can breathe fire? 1:07:26.920 --> 1:07:30.880 That's that that adds a new element I'll say, Yeah, 1:07:31.160 --> 1:07:33.320 I mean, like, get a hippo in there. Anyway, hippo 1:07:33.360 --> 1:07:37.000 would do the damage on both of those in a second. Hippos, 1:07:37.240 --> 1:07:39.320 you know, quick enough, strong enough can go on land, 1:07:39.360 --> 1:07:42.040 can go on water. So I hope there's a I 1:07:42.120 --> 1:07:44.320 hope whoever wins this in the next in the sequel 1:07:44.360 --> 1:07:45.640 takes on the hippo for the world. 1:07:45.880 --> 1:07:50.400 For the undisputed total. Yeah, the hippo's just waiting training exactly. 1:07:50.880 --> 1:07:53.840 It comes out wipe those two in a second. 1:07:55.400 --> 1:07:57.320 Leave it till Lee for me to ask him, who 1:07:57.360 --> 1:07:59.400 does he like in a God delivers is Calm match 1:07:59.480 --> 1:08:05.920 up to see, I'm like the hippo incredible, always amaze. 1:08:06.440 --> 1:08:08.600 All right, pick the results from Friday night. It was 1:08:08.680 --> 1:08:11.480 the Nets Calves game. The Nets were favored by nine 1:08:11.520 --> 1:08:13.920 and a half, had to win big, but the Calves 1:08:14.000 --> 1:08:16.000 got the victory. We probably would have had the Caves 1:08:16.000 --> 1:08:18.160 as a winner of the weekend if they didn't follow 1:08:18.280 --> 1:08:20.719 up their performance are on Friday Night by getting absolutely 1:08:20.840 --> 1:08:23.240 slacked by Gelen Brown and the Celtics there on Sunday. 1:08:23.439 --> 1:08:26.679 But anyway, good victory for Ley. You're nine and twelve. 1:08:26.680 --> 1:08:28.240 You had the Calves to cover and they got the victory. 1:08:28.280 --> 1:08:30.120 Like I said, so you're nine and twelve. Everybody else 1:08:30.160 --> 1:08:32.519 had the Nets. Everybody else got a loss. Tray's nine 1:08:32.560 --> 1:08:34.840 and twelve. Tass Is eight and thirteen. He's currently in 1:08:34.920 --> 1:08:37.640 last place, and I'm eleven and ten. A lot of 1:08:37.680 --> 1:08:39.479 games on tonight. Tasks which one we pick him from. 1:08:40.479 --> 1:08:44.640 We're going to the Celtics and the Bulls. The Celtics 1:08:44.720 --> 1:08:47.439 won by nearly forty on Sunday against the Calves. Chicago 1:08:47.520 --> 1:08:49.840 has won three of four, though, so you think this 1:08:50.000 --> 1:08:52.160 line would be a little bit smaller than it is 1:08:52.240 --> 1:08:54.719 at seven and a half, but the Bulls are getting 1:08:54.840 --> 1:08:58.200 seven and a half points, can lose by seven or less. Right, 1:08:58.240 --> 1:09:00.599 what do you think about that? You think are coming 1:09:00.640 --> 1:09:01.160 out straw? 1:09:01.720 --> 1:09:01.920 Oh? 1:09:02.240 --> 1:09:05.160 Of course, tassy, that's way too big a line against 1:09:05.240 --> 1:09:08.120 the Chicago Bulls. Who has my good friend Tom Poro 1:09:08.320 --> 1:09:11.960 messaged me over the weekend are one hundred percent back. 1:09:12.200 --> 1:09:13.920 If you've got a yoga mat, you need to roll 1:09:14.000 --> 1:09:17.840 it out, laid down, check out the game with your 1:09:17.960 --> 1:09:21.040 no dunks, immacula items. The Bulls are back. They're keeping 1:09:21.120 --> 1:09:25.320 this one close and they're taking the wh. 1:09:25.120 --> 1:09:27.160 Is that Tommy Porol lying down there beside you? 1:09:27.439 --> 1:09:28.479 That's right, that's right. 1:09:29.000 --> 1:09:31.479 Maybe he should get up and put his Christmas tree away. 1:09:31.520 --> 1:09:34.120 Come on, it's time man. 1:09:34.200 --> 1:09:40.559 Jeez Tommy, he's a festive man, celebrate year round. 1:09:40.920 --> 1:09:42.840 Okay, so you got the Bulls to cover obviously, you 1:09:42.920 --> 1:09:45.320 and Tommy Porol. What do you got, lely? 1:09:46.160 --> 1:09:48.920 Yeah, the Bulls were back until they ran into the Lakers, 1:09:48.960 --> 1:09:52.560 but they kept that one close enough too. Umm. No 1:09:53.040 --> 1:09:56.320 kemball Walker tonight, but Jason Tatum is back to the Celtics. Ooh, 1:09:56.880 --> 1:10:01.120 I the Bulls can cover though. I give me Chicago, Okay, 1:10:01.360 --> 1:10:02.120 tasks go ahead. 1:10:03.280 --> 1:10:07.400 I'm joining Tommy, joining Trey, I'm joining Lee. Give me 1:10:07.479 --> 1:10:08.040 the bulls. 1:10:09.240 --> 1:10:12.120 I'll swerve. Let's make this interesting. I'll take the Celtics. 1:10:12.360 --> 1:10:15.680 Oh yeah, dominant performance there on Sunday. Why can't they 1:10:15.720 --> 1:10:17.760 do it again? That's excited to hear Jason Tatums back 1:10:17.760 --> 1:10:19.400 in the mix there too. That could help. So I'll 1:10:19.439 --> 1:10:21.120 take the Celtics to win my eight. It's big line, 1:10:21.200 --> 1:10:23.160 feels a little big. I'm with you on that one. 1:10:23.200 --> 1:10:26.920 But everybody else has the bulls. Tommy poros bulls to cover. 1:10:27.600 --> 1:10:30.400 Put the tree away, Tommy actually put my Christmas stuff 1:10:30.400 --> 1:10:33.040 away yesterday, had already taken it down, but it had 1:10:33.040 --> 1:10:35.559 it all boxed up, just in the spare room, got 1:10:35.640 --> 1:10:38.920 it in the crawl space yesterday. Guys. It's finally out 1:10:38.960 --> 1:10:42.800 of sight, out of mind. But yeah, you're gonna get 1:10:42.800 --> 1:10:44.600 you got your trade down, Lely, I assume you do. 1:10:44.880 --> 1:10:47.800 Oh yeah, yeah, it's so much fun putting the tree up. 1:10:47.880 --> 1:10:50.600 But then like by January second with it is like 1:10:50.680 --> 1:10:52.519 get these tree out of my face. I said, I 1:10:52.520 --> 1:10:54.160 want to move on from Christmas right away. 1:10:54.560 --> 1:10:56.120 Wow, what are you moving on too? 1:10:56.240 --> 1:10:56.400 Though? 1:10:56.720 --> 1:10:56.920 Yeah? 1:10:58.280 --> 1:11:04.000 Like no, it's just what you lead us to roxy 1:11:04.080 --> 1:11:05.480 when this January. 1:11:06.439 --> 1:11:08.880 Because it's it feels like sometimes that tree could be 1:11:09.000 --> 1:11:11.439 up until like now, you know, like January twenty or something. 1:11:11.439 --> 1:11:13.519 You're like, oh, we've had friends of kept our tree 1:11:13.560 --> 1:11:16.120 up till like June to the brown. 1:11:17.040 --> 1:11:18.960 Subscribe, move on from it. 1:11:19.080 --> 1:11:22.960 You know that's a nice looking thing though sometimes Okay, 1:11:23.000 --> 1:11:24.840 I guess you're not very festive. That's fine, No, we 1:11:24.920 --> 1:11:25.479 are festive. 1:11:25.600 --> 1:11:28.240 Wallet's Christmas, but after the New Year's once New Years 1:11:28.320 --> 1:11:29.200 hit boom, move on. 1:11:29.640 --> 1:11:33.360 Okay, great, well well let's wrap it up then let's 1:11:33.400 --> 1:11:35.560 move on. No, you know this is like turn it 1:11:35.600 --> 1:11:38.439 into Christmas here on this podcast is keep emailing your 1:11:38.520 --> 1:11:40.160 questions and comments in for our next beach step in 1:11:40.200 --> 1:11:42.840 podcast No Dunks at the Athletic dot com. Like comment, 1:11:42.880 --> 1:11:44.800 subscribe to No Dunks on YouTube, grab your No Dunks 1:11:44.840 --> 1:11:46.479 merchan at no dunks dot com and subscribe to the 1:11:46.520 --> 1:11:49.920 Athletic for three ninety nine a month right now. 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Clipper Bros. 1:12:03.640 --> 1:12:06.240 You heard it here first, have a great time, turn up. 1:12:06.439 --> 1:12:09.680 Love you guys awesome, Thank you so much for joining us. 1:12:09.720 --> 1:12:12.800 And remember the strong maple tree has sat Trey's friend 1:12:12.880 --> 1:12:15.800 has a last name Poro, and I'm thirsty, so I 1:12:15.840 --> 1:12:18.519 would love both those things in a sap porrow. 1:12:21.880 --> 1:12:22.200 Whatever. 1:12:25.479 --> 1:12:28.280 Wow was, Embrace the day, baby. 1:12:28.920 --> 1:12:29.879 You could stay. 1:12:31.720 --> 1:12:32.559 Every day. 1:12:34.200 --> 1:12:36.599 And Aggie happy every minute. 1:12:39.640 --> 1:12:46.360 It's been so long that YO wanna wait, It's happened already. 1:12:47.880 --> 1:12:49.120 It's gonna be grevy