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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck

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Speaker 2: Welcome in Thursday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Hope

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Speaker 2: all of you are having fabulous Thursday so far. We're

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Speaker 2: going to try to make that a little bit better

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Speaker 2: in the time that you will spend with us. Marsha Blackburn,

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Speaker 2: Senator from Tennessee, going to join us in the second hour.

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Speaker 2: She's been very outspoken about Israel hamas the hostages in particular,

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Speaker 2: we will discuss. And top of the third hour, we're

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Speaker 2: going to go up to the Bluegrass state. Kentucky has

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Speaker 2: got a governor's election which is taking place next week.

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Speaker 2: Attorney General Daniel Cameron running against the sitting governor, Andy Basheer.

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Speaker 2: He is a Democrat this year is he is the

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Speaker 2: only Democrat that is going to be I believe this

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Speaker 2: possible Kentucky, you've got an opportunity to join the rest

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Speaker 2: of the South. I believe North Carolina Buck is going

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Speaker 2: to flip back, feel very strongly about that. But Louisiana

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Speaker 2: already has. Mississippi Tate Reeves is going to win. The

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Speaker 2: only state in the South. I believe that we'll have

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Speaker 2: a Republican that might not have a Republican governor is Kentucky.

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Speaker 2: So this is a big battleground. We'll talk with Daniel

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Speaker 2: Cameron about that in the two PM hour. Now, this

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Speaker 2: we talked about yesterday, Buck and I think this is

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Speaker 2: important for everybody out there to understand. Joe Biden, based

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Speaker 2: on what the Democrat Party Identity Politics Coalition has come

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Speaker 2: to represent, is in a really tough spot as the

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Speaker 2: situation in Israel continues to advance in terms of its seriousness.

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Speaker 2: And right now there is a substantial portion of the

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Speaker 2: Democrat base, let's call it twenty percent, maybe that is convinced,

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Speaker 2: it's younger, it's more ethnically diverse, that Israel is the

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Speaker 2: bad guy in the Israel war that is going on

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Speaker 2: right now against Hamas, and that audience we talked about

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Speaker 2: is actually clustered, for instance in Michigan, and if Joe

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Speaker 2: Biden loses substantial support of Arab voters, then he can't

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Speaker 2: win the presidency. And the reality is since that terror

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Speaker 2: attack from Hamas in Israel, there has been a massive

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Speaker 2: spike in anti Semitism all over the country, and that

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Speaker 2: anti Semitism has manifested itself, particularly on college campuses, but

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Speaker 2: also just in many of our listeners right now who

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Speaker 2: that are levied against them. This was really kind of

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Speaker 2: epitomized in Cornell recently, where a student essentially threatened to

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Speaker 2: kill all sorts of Jewish kids and was arrested.

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Speaker 1: And so the White House now.

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Speaker 2: Is responding, and we talked about this with Kaarine Jean Pierre,

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Speaker 2: not by condemning anti semitism and ensure that they are

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Speaker 2: but by to a large degree claiming that the United

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Speaker 2: States has been infected with Islamophobia. And this was characterized

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Speaker 2: yesterday by what Kamala Harris said in what felt to

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Speaker 2: issue right now in the United States is not anti

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Speaker 2: Semitism or everyone rising up it feels like and attacking Jews.

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Speaker 2: It's actually the fact that people are saying negative things

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Speaker 2: about Islam.

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Speaker 1: Listen.

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Speaker 3: As a result of the Hamas terrorist attack in Israel

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Speaker 3: uptick in anti Palestinian, anti Arab, anti Semitic, and Islamophobic

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Speaker 3: incidents across America. For so many people in our nation,

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Speaker 3: the past few days and weeks have brought about all

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Speaker 3: two familiar fears, fears that they will be targeted, profiled,

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Speaker 3: or attacked simply because of who they are, how they worship,

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Speaker 3: or how they look. And so today I am proud

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Speaker 3: to announce the Biden Harris administration will develop our nation's

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Speaker 3: first national strategy to counter Islamophobia.

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Speaker 4: First of all, their national strategy will accomplish nothing. This

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Speaker 4: is just messaging, right, That's one part of this. They're

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Speaker 4: not going to They haven't suddenly come up with some

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Speaker 4: way to end Islamophobia. And I would just say Islamophobia

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Speaker 4: is really a nonsensical term used by cynical people to

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Speaker 4: like an uptick in attacks. There are three hundred and

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Speaker 4: thirty million people in America. If there's been one violent

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Speaker 4: the politics of this, because I think you identified it

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Speaker 4: which is not huge, but it doesn't have to be

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Speaker 4: not a current. There are mobs on campuses across the

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Speaker 4: country standing in solidarity with and calling out the most

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Speaker 4: That is happening. So the pretense that Biden and his

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Speaker 4: team go through here with well, you know there's a

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Speaker 4: rise and hate on both sides. That's not reality. Okay, yes,

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Speaker 4: it's not that. There's some right also anti Palestinian hate.

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Speaker 4: What it even talking about the anti Palestinian hate. People

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Speaker 4: Hamas a terrorist group. Anyway, the whole thing is one

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Speaker 4: it's a window into the mind of the left here,

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Speaker 4: which is that they still view the Palestinians as always

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Speaker 4: the victims, even when Hamas commits a mass casualty terror

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Speaker 4: attack because fourteen hundred people, rapes women, murders babies.

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Speaker 1: The whole thing, I mean, the whole thing is absolutely appalling.

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Speaker 2: And they also see that there's a political problem here, Clay. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and this is what we were talking about yesterday. Michigan

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Speaker 2: in particular, huge Muslim voting population that overwhelmingly supported Joe

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Speaker 2: the Arab population. I don't think you can both sides.

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Speaker 2: This one side, that is the Hamas terrorist attacked and

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Speaker 2: brutally murdered fourteen hundred people because they are Jewish. And

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Speaker 2: there's a great editorial in the Wall Street Journal today

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Speaker 2: what you said, Buck, which is Islamaphobia is a phony diagnosis.

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Speaker 1: It's by a guy named Matthew Hennessy.

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Speaker 2: That was before that was before there was actually this

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Speaker 2: And he has a good paragraph here. It's rational to

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Speaker 2: It's understandable to be angry about the World Trade Center, Bali, Madrid, London, Paris,

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Speaker 2: It isn't a phobia to abhor senseless death delivered in

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Speaker 2: the name of God. It may even be laudable. And Buck,

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Speaker 2: whereas that's happening all over the country if you are.

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Speaker 4: Jewish, that's exactly right. And I remember, and this was

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Speaker 4: the old clip. And it was after the mass casualty.

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Speaker 4: Now not mass casualty on the scale of what we

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Speaker 4: If you remember this, on Bestie Day in southern France,

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Speaker 1: In Marseille right close to it.

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Speaker 4: when you don't assimilate your Muslim minorities properly.

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Speaker 1: In Europe.

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Speaker 4: Basically it was Europe's fault they're after and I lost

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Speaker 4: my mind a little bit. I'm like, what are you

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Speaker 4: terrorists and stopping the terrorists? You're you know, And and

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Speaker 4: the the other part of this is we've seen this

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Speaker 4: on US soil, perpetrated by jihattists. And after that happens Clay,

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Speaker 4: they they will say the real threat that we face

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Speaker 4: this Islamophobia. Yeah, this is the constant refrain from Democrats.

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Speaker 4: That does make you think after a while. So they

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Speaker 4: just want like the collapse of our civilization, right, I

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Speaker 4: They don't want them to defend themselves. And you know,

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Speaker 4: there are some questions that all of this raises about,

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Speaker 4: you know, what side is the Biden administration really on?

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Speaker 1: You know, what are they really willing to do?

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Speaker 2: And remember Joe Biden has constantly attacked MAGA extremism. He

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Speaker 2: I've missed it. Buck, Where where are the in modern era?

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Speaker 2: Because certainly in the past there's all sorts of depredations

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Speaker 2: In the lives of you and me and anybody you

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Speaker 2: know roughly who's out there listening. When have the Christian

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Speaker 1: Am I missing any.

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Speaker 2: Can you think of a Christian inspired or Jewish inspired

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Speaker 4: I mean, the left will always try to point to

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Speaker 1: Say, oh, well, he was a white.

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Speaker 4: Male ostensibly Christian, and they'll try to make but Timothy McVeigh.

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Speaker 1: Didn't do what he did because he thought Jesus told

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Speaker 4: Right, So there's a there's there's a distinction to be

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Speaker 4: made there another way, and this raises some issues, but

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Speaker 4: I think it's important if we're having the conversation about this.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's a function of ideology and looking. Not

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Speaker 4: all ideologies are the same. Okay, the Amish haven't done

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Speaker 4: been no Amish suicide bombings.

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Speaker 2: I think Bakers aren't on a regular basis showing up

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Speaker 4: And you know, they use this term Islamophobia, and to

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Speaker 4: this I just always I think, and this was what

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Speaker 4: I did for a long time professionally in the CIA

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Speaker 4: and then afterwards doing national security analysis. Clay, there's no

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Speaker 2: That's the truth, and it's I mean, it is so fascinating, right,

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Speaker 4: And these Hamask guys, they are really they don't spend

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Speaker 4: Power two Clayandbuck Politics, everybody, let's do it.

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Speaker 1: Let's dive into this.

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Speaker 4: Spend a lot of time on national security and ideology

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Speaker 6: The political usages of what's going on here.

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Speaker 4: But let's talk politics for a second. We have a

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Speaker 1: He is refusing to debate.

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Speaker 7: We've got a lot of issues that this country is

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Speaker 1: No, I would not.

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Speaker 2: And look, I will say we were citing a national poll.

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Speaker 2: Things can change quickly because it's not as if there

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Speaker 2: are a lot of advertisements running in California or I

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Speaker 2: would imagine Texas, in Oklahoma, all over the country right now.

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Speaker 2: Everybody's spending money right now in Iowa, and then they're

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Speaker 2: spending money in New Hampshire in South Carolina, and I

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Speaker 2: would bet that's like ninety five percent of the money

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Speaker 2: that's being spent right now, is being spent in those

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Speaker 2: three states by all candidates. But to me, if Trump

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Speaker 2: gets on the stage, he legitimizes his challengers. If I

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Speaker 2: were running, I would a billion percent want him on

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Speaker 2: the stage. And so I don't begrudge DeSantis making that argument,

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Speaker 2: Nikki Haley making that argument, the Vake.

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Speaker 4: Anybody he's got to man. I mean, they've got to

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Speaker 4: make that argument. And this was I think the fatal

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Speaker 4: flaw for the campaign for Aveke all along was you

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Speaker 4: can't want to be the guy when you're praising somebody

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Speaker 4: else as the guy.

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Speaker 1: It's hard to say.

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Speaker 2: It's hard to be Basically, what Theveke is saying is

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump, for a sports analogy, is Peyton Manning one

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Speaker 2: of the greatest quarterbacks who's ever lived. But I'll be

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Speaker 2: Tom Brady, right, it's hard to argue that the person

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Speaker 2: you're trying to get over is, you know, one of

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Speaker 2: the great.

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Speaker 1: There's only one QB.

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Speaker 4: But there's only one QB jobs played, right, There's only

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Speaker 4: one job, so we can't you know, it's not like

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Speaker 4: he can be a great on his team.

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Speaker 1: I give you a great of my team.

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Speaker 4: There's only one president, only one slot so if you

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Speaker 4: don't think, if you're not willing to say you're better

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Speaker 4: than the other person in the role, you're not going

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Speaker 4: to get the role. So that was and I saw

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Speaker 4: that all along, and I think I was pretty honest

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Speaker 4: about that, as much as Vivick did have some very

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Speaker 4: good moments on the debate stage, et cetera. Okay, but

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Speaker 4: back to just so we both Zanas has to make

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Speaker 4: the case that Trump needs to go on stage. Trump

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Speaker 4: is not going to go on stage. So that doesn't

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Speaker 4: really change very much going after Trump as a big spender.

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Speaker 1: Does this move the needle at all? Play eighteen.

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Speaker 7: I was there for the first two years of the

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Speaker 7: Trump administration. There was a faction of us in the

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Speaker 7: House that was urging him not to just sign these

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Speaker 7: big omnibus spending bills. But he signed every spending bill

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Speaker 7: that ever got to his he asked, culminating in a

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Speaker 7: big gusher of spending his last year in office, which

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Speaker 7: of course ended up adding seven point eight trillion to

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Speaker 7: the debt in one four year period as a president.

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Speaker 7: Under the four years of Trump, he added almost as

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Speaker 7: much to the debt as Obama did in eight years,

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Speaker 7: And so there was no sense of fiscal restraint.

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Speaker 1: There does this dent the armor at all?

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Speaker 2: Look, I think the only way you can beat Trump,

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Speaker 2: and I have said this from the gig no, I

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Speaker 2: think the answer is no. I mean, I think that

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Speaker 2: the people who are going to be focused on government

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Speaker 2: spending already know this, and I think it's hard to

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Speaker 2: move the needle on that. The only I think the

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Speaker 2: only way to beat Trump. This is my personal opinion.

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Speaker 2: I think you have to say and they're not willing

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Speaker 2: to do this because they're afraid. I think you have

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Speaker 2: to say Trump lost in twenty twenty. I'm saying if

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Speaker 2: I'm running against him, and he will lose in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four if we put him up against Biden again.

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Speaker 2: I think you have to attack Trump and say exactly that,

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Speaker 2: and you have to say it over and over and

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Speaker 2: over again. The challenge with that is there are a

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Speaker 2: lot of Republican voters who don't want to hear it

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Speaker 2: and so don't believe it and don't believe it, and

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Speaker 2: so that's the only way you win.

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Speaker 1: Because here's the deal. I am focused.

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Speaker 2: All I care about is winning, right, I am Al Davis,

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Speaker 2: Just win baby. I mean, I wrote American Playbook It's like,

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Speaker 2: this is how you win, and I want to win comfortably.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to be.

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Speaker 2: Awake late at night worried about whether a fire alarm

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Speaker 2: is gonna go off in Fulton County. I don't want

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Speaker 2: to worry about whether the voting machines are going to

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Speaker 2: work in Maricopa County. I don't want to worry about

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Speaker 2: what's going to happen in Milwaukee or Detroit, or Philadelphia

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Speaker 2: or Pittsburgh, because you know the Democrats are going to

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Speaker 2: pull every lever they can. Now, the challenge, Buck is

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Speaker 2: if you go balls to the wall with that argument,

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Speaker 2: you might not win, and you might also mortally wound

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Speaker 2: yourself in the twenty twenty camp because right now, I

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Speaker 2: think Trump is going to win. Right if we were,

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Speaker 2: if the election was, you know, Tuesday coming up in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, you said.

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Speaker 4: The twenty twenty campaign, You mean the twenty twenty four campaign, right.

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Speaker 2: Well, if you lose, sorry if you If you make

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Speaker 2: that argument and you lose in twenty twenty four, I

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Speaker 2: think it impacts you in twenty twenty eight. I think people, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think people remember because the big takeaway here, and

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Speaker 2: I think we're starting to think about how this plays

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Speaker 2: out is even if you lose in twenty twenty four,

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Speaker 2: you want to be super viable in twenty twenty eight.

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Speaker 2: So for people out there who are stepping down, yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's why.

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Speaker 4: That's why Glenn Youngkin's not running in this cycle. I

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Speaker 4: think because he's seen what's going on here with the Trump.

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Speaker 1: Base, and it's just it's the strength of it.

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Speaker 4: The it's implacable, it's unmovable, it's it's ossified. I mean,

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Speaker 4: it is there. Look at you, mister vocab. You know,

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Speaker 4: thrown it out there a little bit. And I think

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Speaker 4: I think young Kin, for example, somebody who figures, you

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Speaker 4: know what you don't want to get. I mean, I

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Speaker 4: don't I don't say this in any kind of a

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Speaker 4: I don't mean this in a mean way, but you know,

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think Marco Rubio's presidential prospects were damaged

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Speaker 4: by the twenty sixteen campaign. Now he's still a senator

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Speaker 4: and he's still doing his thing, and that's fine. But

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Speaker 4: I think that sometimes getting in the race against Trump

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Speaker 4: doesn't lead you in a better in a better spot

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Speaker 4: the next time around.

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Speaker 1: Is that the case with the Santis or not with

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Speaker 1: sell c.

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Speaker 2: And That's that's why I'm saying, Buck. The question they're

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Speaker 2: going to have to decide at some point is how

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Speaker 2: much are you really gonna go at the King?

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Speaker 1: Remember?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Is it all of that? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Of course if you come at the King, you best

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Speaker 4: not miss Omar's best line from the wire. I believe

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Speaker 4: that actor passed away recently.

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Speaker 2: I think you're right, but I think there are a

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Speaker 2: lot of guys who may be coming at the King

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Speaker 2: and missing. And if Trump goes down, if Trump loses,

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Speaker 2: I don't think you're harmed as much in twenty eight.

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Speaker 2: But if Trump wins, it's gonna be hard to get

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Speaker 2: people who really supported Trump to come back into your camp.

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Speaker 2: And I think that's the calculus everybody's playing with.

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Speaker 4: I want to know, do we have right now listening

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Speaker 4: and wanted to call in to make their case Team

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Speaker 4: Ron folks who still see the pathway and who think

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Speaker 4: that because we get the emails, we get some angry

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Speaker 4: We get angry emails, not even because we look we

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Speaker 4: have never endorsed. We're just talking about what the polls

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Speaker 4: are saying and what looks likely based on the numbers.

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Speaker 4: But people say, don't say that Trump is you know,

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Speaker 4: likely or don't say that Trump is is almost certainly

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Speaker 4: or anything like that. So eight hundred two A two

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Speaker 4: two eight A two and clay Let, let's let's come

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Speaker 4: back to this question.

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Speaker 2: Same thing for Nicky Haley too, by the way, because

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Speaker 2: I think those are the only three that you could

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Speaker 2: really make a case for right now. If we get

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Speaker 2: if we get some Nicky Haley callers, maybe the exist,

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Speaker 2: maybe they exist out there. We know we got a

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Speaker 2: lot of decantists, and we know we got a lot

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Speaker 2: of Trump. Maybe there's Nicky Haley, no steadfast.

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Speaker 4: And if we don't take any it's because we're not

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Speaker 4: getting the calls from them, which means this audience may

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Speaker 4: be all in on you know, we may be at

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Speaker 4: the like eighty ninety percent all in on Trump phase

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Speaker 4: of things here. But should the part this is a

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Speaker 4: question post Rohn de Santis, should the party nominate Trump

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Speaker 4: if if he is convicted in one of these felony trials.

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Speaker 4: Clay Let's return to this, Let's play this. Let's return

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Speaker 4: to this because this was a moment. This is an

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Speaker 4: interesting question to pose to the number two in the

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Speaker 4: presidential election GOP primary. Right now, we'll get back to

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Speaker 4: that in a second. You know, there's truth in the

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Speaker 4: phrase practice makes perfect.

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Speaker 1: Guess what.

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Speaker 4: I'm going out to the range this weekend with my

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Speaker 4: brother and a friend of ours who is a true expert.

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Speaker 4: You know, I'm just an amateur trying to get as

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Speaker 4: good as I can, trying to hone some of the

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Speaker 4: back in the day. But you know, I do what

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Speaker 1: Make an appointment with the truth.

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Speaker 2: Tune in every day to the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 2: Sexton Show.

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Speaker 4: All right, welcome back, everybody. We're gonna be talking to

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Speaker 4: Senator Blackburn here of Tennessee in just a moment. But

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Speaker 4: a lot of VIP emails come in about what we

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Speaker 4: were just talking about. Let's see, we have Mark writing in.

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Speaker 4: Remember if you want to be a VIP, go to

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Speaker 4: claanbuck dot com. He writes, Fellas, can you imagine how

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Speaker 4: jealous Trump will be at for DeSantis kicks Newsom's butt

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Speaker 4: in their November thirtieth debate.

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Speaker 6: Mark, I don't think Trump's gonna care. That's my sense

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Speaker 6: of it.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I could be wrong, but I don't think I will

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Speaker 2: watch that debate. But I don't think and I think

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Speaker 2: it's smart for DeSantis to do. But I don't think

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Speaker 2: Trump's going to watch that debate.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 4: I think Trump will ignore the whole thing, Frederick writes,

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Speaker 4: DeSantis lies quite a bit. Trump is holding rallies all

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Speaker 4: over Iowa, He's visiting New Hampshire. DeSantis mints Mince's words,

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Speaker 4: like an unethical lawyer, Frederick not a speaking as an

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Speaker 4: unethical lawyer.

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Speaker 1: Buck.

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Speaker 2: I actually don't think DeSantis lies like compared to a

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Speaker 2: lot of politicians out there. But the Democrat standard for

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Speaker 2: lie is so high, highly set. I think it's it's

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Speaker 2: hard to argue that DeSantis is lying.

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Speaker 4: Senator Marshall Blackburn with us now from Tennessee Center. Appreciate

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Speaker 4: you calling in.

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Speaker 5: I'm delighted to join you. Thank you so much for

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Speaker 5: having me.

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Speaker 4: So let's let's start here with what was your What

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Speaker 4: was your reaction to the bided deministration. Given all that's

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Speaker 4: going on with Israel and Gaza and Hamas unveiling its

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Speaker 4: strategy to combat Islamophobia yesterday.

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Speaker 5: You have to listen to some things that are said

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Speaker 5: from this White House and say they have to be

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Speaker 5: tone deaf. How could they possibly move forward with that

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Speaker 5: when you have Hamas a recognized terrorist organization, recognized as

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Speaker 5: such by the US and our allies have carried out

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Speaker 5: these attacks on Israel, killing Israelis in their homes, in

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Speaker 5: their communities, and beheading babies, burning babies in the ovens,

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Speaker 5: killing grandparents in front of their kids, and children in

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Speaker 5: front of their parents. How could they possibly not talk

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Speaker 5: about what has happened to the people of Israel.

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Speaker 1: Senator, appreciate you joining us.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of talk now about Israeli AID, Ukrainian AID,

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Speaker 2: Taiwanese aid. The Biden administration is trying to roll that

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Speaker 2: all together into one big bill. I believe that costs

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Speaker 2: over one hundred billion dollars. My understanding is the House

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Speaker 2: is going to first pass a bill that focuses on Israel.

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Speaker 2: Should this be one bill? Should it be individual bills?

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Speaker 2: How do you think this should be handled?

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Speaker 5: I think the process of moving forward with Israel Aid

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Speaker 5: stand alone by itself, addressing those issues is important, you know, Clay.

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Speaker 5: One of the things that's so important in this discussion

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Speaker 5: is Israel can tell you exactly what they need and

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Speaker 5: exactly of how many of whatever it is that they need.

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Speaker 5: There is not any ambiguity there. That's important to this

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Speaker 5: process and giving Israel what they need to defend themse

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Speaker 5: else is important. Making certain they have what they need

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Speaker 5: in order to defeat Hamas and rid the face of

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Speaker 5: the earth of Hamas. That is an important part of this.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 5: If you want to then turn and take up Ukraine aid,

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Speaker 5: which is a completely different issue, and we have got

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Speaker 5: to have some accountability and transparency around the Ukraine dollars,

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Speaker 5: whether it is for humanitarian aid or some of their

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Speaker 5: government infrastructure or their military. There has to be some accountability.

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Speaker 5: Right now, we're about seventy five billion dollars in on Ukraine,

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Speaker 5: so we want to take this time and figure out

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Speaker 5: what has happened. Now. Nobody wants Vladimir Putin to get

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Speaker 5: a win, nobody, but at the same time we have

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Speaker 5: to have some transparency. Also, it is imperative that we

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Speaker 5: secure that southern border. Look at what we had the

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Speaker 5: first couple of weeks of October, at that southern border,

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Speaker 5: you had thirty Iranians, thirty five Pakistanis, one hundred Russians

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Speaker 5: in two thousand Chinese come to that border and present

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Speaker 5: themselves and ask for asylum. This year you've had one

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Speaker 5: hundred and fifty one known terrorists come to that border

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Speaker 5: and claim asylum, and border patrol will tell you they

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Speaker 5: have got to have a barrier. They've got to have

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Speaker 5: more agents and officers. They need technology where they cannot

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Speaker 5: get a barrier, and we have to stop this flow

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Speaker 5: coming into the country. You have people from countries of

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Speaker 5: interest by the thousands coming in here and DHS may

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Speaker 5: ORCUS is doing nothing to track these people. When these

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Speaker 5: terrorists are at apprehended, we don't know what they're doing

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Speaker 5: with them, but we know they're not sending them to Gitmo,

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Speaker 5: which is where terrorists ought to be sent. So the

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Speaker 5: border and the open nature of this, the fact that

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Speaker 5: you've got got aways that are coming to that border,

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Speaker 5: and you've got the worst of the worst, the gang members,

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Speaker 5: the terrorists, those that are drug dealers and human traffickers.

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Speaker 5: They're the ones and the god aways, they're the ones

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Speaker 5: that don't want to get caught.

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Speaker 2: Senator, you're a mom and you're a grandma. When you

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Speaker 2: see all these young people rallying to support Hamas, rallying

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Speaker 2: to support Palestine, opposing Israel's right to defend itself, what

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Speaker 2: do you think.

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Speaker 5: I just it's astounding to me that they are doing this,

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Speaker 5: and that the universities you're letting this happen. As I said,

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Speaker 5: the US recognizes and has for the last couple of

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Speaker 5: decades has recognized Thomas as a terrorist group. And these

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Speaker 5: universities are letting these students go out here and rally

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Speaker 5: in support of terrorism, Rally in support of people that

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Speaker 5: say death to America, death to Israel. Rally in support

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Speaker 5: of an organization who in their bylaws, in their bylaws

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Speaker 5: they talk about one of their goals being the annihilation

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Speaker 5: of the State of Israel. They rally in support of Hamas,

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Speaker 5: an organization that has a leader that goes out and

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Speaker 5: gives an interview and says, we intended to do all

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Speaker 5: the damage we did on October seventh, and guess what,

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Speaker 5: We're going to do it again and again and again

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Speaker 5: until we annihilate Israel. Think about that this is observed

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Speaker 5: and I will tell you, Clay, this is one of

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Speaker 5: the reasons that Senator Jackie Rose and I had our

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Speaker 5: resolution to condemn this, and we were joined by Senator

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Speaker 5: Van Holland and Senator Langford as primary co sponsors, and

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Speaker 5: then our resolution condemning these actions passed off the floor

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Speaker 5: of the US Senate last Thursday, and it did it

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Speaker 5: with a unanimous vote. Nobody objected. And I wish we

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Speaker 5: would see that kind of solidarity and support for Israel

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Speaker 5: all across the country. People need to realize that these

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Speaker 5: terrorist organizations, whether it's Samas or Husbalo or the Whosis

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Speaker 5: or isis Syria, isis Rick. We've got a porous border.

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Speaker 5: We've got these terrorist organizations that would love to get

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Speaker 5: people in the country into their terrorist sales, and we

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Speaker 5: are making ourselves vulnerable because we are not securing our

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Speaker 5: southern border.

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Speaker 4: Senator Marshall Blackbird of Tennessee, Senator, thanks for being here

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Speaker 4: with us.

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Speaker 5: You got it. Take care bye.

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Speaker 2: She's doing great work. And you know what could help

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Speaker 2: a lot of you out there. It's Thursday night.

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Speaker 1: Buck. You know what I had to do.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in Play Travis bock Sexton Show. All right,

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Speaker 2: we've done a lot of serious discussion here.

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Speaker 1: Buck.

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Speaker 2: There is a major controversy after yet again this dispute

797
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 2: has gone viral. I don't know where you stand on

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00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 2: This issue divides families, divides husbands, wives, parents from their children.

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Speaker 2: What should happen with seats as it pertains to reclining

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Speaker 2: on airplanes. I'm gonna be honest with all of you

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00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 2: out there. I am one billion percent committed to no

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Speaker 2: reclining on seats.

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Speaker 1: I'm not huge.

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Speaker 2: I'm six foot, you know, one eighty five or so.

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Speaker 2: If someone reclines to me while I am in coach

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Speaker 2: class seating, which I fly almost exclusively on Southwest because

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00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 2: there is no first class, I feel like I am imprisoned.

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00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 2: I can't work on my laptop. I can't even hold

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Speaker 2: my beloved paper newspaper hardly and turn the pages. I

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Speaker 2: am of the opinion that no seats on any airplane

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Speaker 2: that is not like an overnight flight, that you shouldn't

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Speaker 2: be able to recline at all. I bet for the

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Speaker 2: flight attendants that are listening, I bet this is like

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Speaker 2: ninety percent of the fights that they see on a

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Speaker 2: regular basis.

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Speaker 1: Now, so is my position.

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Speaker 4: I'm anti, you're anti, you're all in on it, and

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Speaker 4: I respect all in. I will tell you that I

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00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 4: think that this is situational. I think there's a little

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Speaker 4: bit of situational awareness need to have here. If it

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Speaker 4: is a daylight domestic flight, I do not think you recline.

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Speaker 4: I think that ever, you know, because people are going

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Speaker 4: to be working in either space. I think that if

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Speaker 4: they dim the lights in the cabin and you're talking

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Speaker 4: about it, like if you're flying coach, you know, the

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Speaker 4: red Eye New York to LA or something, you know,

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Speaker 4: you do what you can to try to get the

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Speaker 4: rest you can. You're not going to sleep very well

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Speaker 4: in the coach even with it reclined. But I think

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Speaker 4: if you're in a dimmed cabin situation and it's clear

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Speaker 4: that people are going to be trying to get sleep,

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Speaker 4: than reclining is sometimes acceptable. However, my thing is airlines

833
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Speaker 4: need to get far more aggressive about policing seat kicking

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Speaker 4: because there are a lot of people who and when

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Speaker 4: I say kicking, I just mean people who are very aggressive.

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Speaker 4: First of all, do you ever have this where someone

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Speaker 4: sits behind you and they decide they want to get

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Speaker 4: to the bathroom and instead of using their arm rests,

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Speaker 4: they use the back of the seat in front of

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Speaker 4: them like a catapult, Like like they're a medieval lord

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Speaker 4: trying to storm the fortress and they want to fire

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Speaker 4: a rock over it, and they shoot themselves up into

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Speaker 4: the sky, basically using your entire seat as the springboard.

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Speaker 4: That to me is a massive party foul and you

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Speaker 4: should get a time out for.

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Speaker 2: I understand, yes, that sometimes happens. Those are people that

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Speaker 2: usually don't with the way that I think about it

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Speaker 2: is they usually don't have the ability to otherwise get up,

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Speaker 2: like they tend to be like older, out of shape,

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Speaker 2: like they have difficulty getting up in general. So I

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Speaker 2: I agree with that on some level. The other thing,

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Speaker 2: I'm still fired up about the reclining seats. If you

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Speaker 2: aren't very big, like my wife is five to two,

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Speaker 2: you like you definitely should not.

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Speaker 1: I want someone who is five to two. How tall

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Speaker 1: is carry? How tall is your wife? Like five five,

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Speaker 1: five six, something like that, Like I've five. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: If she's not listening, she's probably so my wife is

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Speaker 1: five to two.

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Speaker 2: I understand when I'm six foot, I'm not claiming like

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Speaker 2: I'm six six or something like that. But when there's

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Speaker 2: like something to be reached on a shelf, if you're short,

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Speaker 2: you presume that people who are taller than you can

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Speaker 2: reach anything. Like she'll be like, hey, can you get that.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, that's nine feet in the air. Like, I'm

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Speaker 2: taller than you, and my arms are a lot longer,

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Speaker 2: but I can't get up that high. I don't think

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Speaker 2: short people have any concept for what it's like to

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Speaker 2: be in coach class seating.

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Speaker 1: And so when some and a lot of times a woman.

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Speaker 2: Is like five, I have two and reclines in front

872
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 2: of me, I'm like, you have an ocean of space

873
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 2: already like this swallowing you.

874
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: Okay, I said five to five. I was closed. I'm

875
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 1: close enough that I'm out in any trouble.

876
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 2: So if you're a five foot two five foot four

877
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 2: woman and you sit in coach class seating, you have

878
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 2: an abundance and a luxury of space.

879
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 1: You're like in first class seating.

880
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 2: Compared to someone who is six feet or bigger, I

881
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 2: can't even imagine. Like I sometimes see guys who are

882
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 2: like six ' five or six six walking past me

883
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 2: on a Southwest Airlines flight, and I just think, you

884
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 2: poor bastard, Like you can't even sit without your knees

885
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:43,600
Speaker 2: grinding into people's backs. I'm telling you, seats should not

886
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 2: be reclinable because people say, oh, well, I paid for

887
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 2: the seat, and I should recline. I've tried to do

888
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 2: laptop work. I've tried to read. You cannot do it

889
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 2: if you're a decent sized man and someone reclines in

890
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 2: front of you.

891
00:46:56,000 --> 00:47:00,200
Speaker 4: So I was also an There's also the people that

892
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 4: recline very rapidly, and sometimes we'll hit your laptop or

893
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 4: they'll even knock over drinks things like that. Yeah, that's

894
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 4: a common that's a common U shortcoming of the situation.

895
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 4: I'm surprised that you don't. I will tell you, Clay,

896
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Speaker 4: there are moments where someone is being so aggressive in

897
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Speaker 4: the pushing and hitting of my seat that I have

898
00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 4: to think to myself, I do not want the Daily

899
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 4: Mail headline. Right wing radio hosts caught on video in

900
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 4: scuffle over air, Like, I have to go through it

901
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,360
Speaker 4: in my head so that I do not turn around

902
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 4: and start screaming at you.

903
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Speaker 2: What's the worst event that you've had happen to you

904
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Speaker 2: on a flight? The worst thing that's ever happened to

905
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 2: me on that? Yeah, not like the plane, like the

906
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 2: the you know, like the things, but like just interpersonal relationships.

907
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 2: To your point, I mean, I was I was once

908
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 2: sitting next to a woman and we were, you know,

909
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 2: I was in the middle and I was.

910
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: Using the seat.

911
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 2: You know, like the being in the middle seat is awful, right,

912
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 2: I mean it is like really like you're the dregs

913
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Speaker 2: of society if you have to sit in the middle

914
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Speaker 2: on a flight. And like, my arm touched her arm

915
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 2: on the armrest, and she hit me and she said,

916
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 2: if you touch me again, I'm going to you know,

917
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 2: the flight attendant's going to come here, and this is

918
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 2: going to be a major issue for you. And I

919
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 2: was like, I'm just trying to put my arm on

920
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,359
Speaker 2: the arm rest. And I was thinking to myself, how

921
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 2: do I prove that were you already Clay Travis? Like,

922
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 2: was this an MSNBC employee? No, I don't think she

923
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 2: knew who I was. But I was thinking to myself,

924
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 2: how do I prove that I didn't do anything wrong.

925
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 1: I'm just in the.

926
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 2: Middle seat trying to use part of the arm rest, right,

927
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Speaker 2: And she lost it, and I was thinking I didn't

928
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:42,839
Speaker 2: even know what to do. I was like, I don't

929
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Speaker 2: want to create a scene because I don't to your point,

930
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Speaker 2: I don't want it to be a story like Clay Travis,

931
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Speaker 2: you know, like and this is why My wife is like,

932
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Speaker 2: you shouldn't be taking Southwest flights, but I I can't.

933
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Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not ever going to give up Southwest Airlines.

934
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Speaker 2: I'm in the a boarding group. I've spent a lot

935
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Speaker 2: of time here. But she's like, only bad things are

936
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,280
Speaker 2: gonna happened to you in the middle seat on Southwest.

937
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,359
Speaker 2: Somebody's gonna know you, they're gonna hate you, and they're

938
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 2: gonna try to turn this into a huge story.

939
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Speaker 1: But that's the for like the armrest thing.

940
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Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, I might be turned

941
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Speaker 2: into an awful human being and I haven't even done anything.

942
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Speaker 4: I would have backed you up, Clay, I don't worry.

943
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 4: You would have been okay. But this is probably a

944
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:18,399
Speaker 4: while ago, though I might not have known you.

945
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:20,879
Speaker 2: So this is like, this is about it was about

946
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:24,800
Speaker 2: before we started doing the show, but time pretty recent.

947
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay.

948
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 2: Sometimes people are stunned that I'm on Southwest Airlines flight. No,

949
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 2: I'm on a Southwest Airlines flight Monday. I take them everywhere.

950
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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't want to. You know, some people

951
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 4: maybe eating their launch and also you know, I just

952
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 4: but if you ask me, like the roughest thing that

953
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 4: I can remember being exposed to on a plane, and

954
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 4: now I know that there's the you know, whoever smelt

955
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:46,800
Speaker 4: that dealt it? Okay, I understand that there are rules

956
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 4: that people think apply to this, but I am just

957
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:53,400
Speaker 4: I was next to somebody who was having clear gastro

958
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 4: intestinal distress to the point where to the point where

959
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:03,879
Speaker 4: I started laughing because it kept happening, and and.

960
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 1: It smelled so stupid, did you ask? Smell so bad?

961
00:50:09,080 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 4: It smelled so bad that it was like I was

962
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 4: starting to worry if like methane.

963
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:16,439
Speaker 6: Poisoning could be a thing.

964
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 4: Coach a lot, Yeah, And I was really hoping those

965
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 4: HEPA filters were working overtime, and.

966
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 1: It was clear to me who they was.

967
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:30,800
Speaker 4: A guy you knew, you know, like upper middle age,

968
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,759
Speaker 4: heavy and you know the thing about bo I'm gonna

969
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:34,959
Speaker 4: tell you this right now. So I've been on flights

970
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 4: where there's there's a lot of bo action going on,

971
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 4: body armpit stuff. You get a little bit used to

972
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 4: overtime because it's constant. So if you're in and and

973
00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 4: I've been in countries my former life as a CIA.

974
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 2: Bathe as often as there's not a lot of well,

975
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:58,359
Speaker 2: there's no deodorant usage basically, so you get that.

976
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 4: But but in the and I've been in long car

977
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 4: rides with folks, and you can kind of get used

978
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 4: to that. The intermittent the intermittent smell. Yeah, exposure is

979
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 4: very because you never acclimate to it. And yeah, I

980
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 4: remember I just sort of like I kind of just

981
00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 4: bust out laughing, and it was it wasn't a very

982
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 4: long flight, but it was highly unpleasant.

983
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 2: It's like the difference between a dull roar and an

984
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 2: intermittent sound. Right, It's like you could get used to

985
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:29,160
Speaker 2: a sound that's annoying as long as it's consistent. Right,

986
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,840
Speaker 2: So you might say that's the radio show BBO is

987
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 2: like BO is like a white is like white noise.

988
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 2: But I'm talking about like the thunder was, you know.

989
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 2: I mean this is why, for instance, it seems to

990
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 2: me that fire alarms only go off in the middle

991
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 2: of the night at like two am. You're sleeping great,

992
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 2: and it's by the way, the battery's out, and so

993
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 2: then you've got to figure out how to replace it.

994
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 2: You're climbing on a ladder, you feel like you're gonna

995
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 2: die because you're gonna fall off and hit your head,

996
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 2: and the beeping won't start.

997
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 1: It's the intermittent, right, it's the intern mit. Oh, the

998
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,600
Speaker 1: little chirp, that little chirp beep that just roo.

999
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 4: Clay lives in a castle, so it's fun because I

1000
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 4: get lost sometimes when I visit him, and I'm like,

1001
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:10,720
Speaker 4: I'm like yelling for Laura.

1002
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm in the south wing.

1003
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 4: And there's like a drawbridge that has to so Clay's

1004
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 4: house is enormous and and uh, I can imagine. The

1005
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 4: thing about that little chirp noise is that if you

1006
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 4: have where it's coming, you'll never know where it is.

1007
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 4: So then you start to lose your mind, Like then

1008
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 4: you start to turn into Jack Nicholson in the Shining

1009
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 4: because each one of those little things could be the

1010
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 4: amount of time that I have spent walking around in

1011
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 4: the middle of the night in my underwear trying to

1012
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,800
Speaker 4: figure out where the fire alarm is that is chirping.

1013
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,919
Speaker 4: By the way, fire alarms have thankfully never gone off

1014
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 4: for any reason that we've needed them, right, and I

1015
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 4: don't even.

1016
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 1: Know what the rules are.

1017
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 2: There are some parts of our house where we have

1018
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 2: fire alarms that are separated about like five feet, So

1019
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 2: you talk about like even if you're narrow. I don't

1020
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,399
Speaker 2: know what I guess maybe one room is classified one

1021
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 2: way and the other way. I don't know why they

1022
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,839
Speaker 2: do that, but I'll stand there literally between the two

1023
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 2: trying to determine which direction it's going. It's two thirty

1024
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 2: in the morning. And this was even worse buck when

1025
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 2: I used to get up at.

1026
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:05,760
Speaker 1: Four twenty in the morning.

1027
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,320
Speaker 2: You know, for my morning radio show for five years,

1028
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 2: there's nothing worse than getting up at four twenty. I

1029
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 2: know a lot of you out there get up early

1030
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 2: in the morning. You know what I'm talking about. When

1031
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 2: that alarm goes off. The only thing worse than that

1032
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 2: is when the fire alarm starts chirping at two thirty,

1033
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 2: and you're like, I got to be up, and you

1034
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 2: know in an hour and twenty minutes, I'm only sleeping

1035
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 2: like four hours. Anyway, all of that said, none of

1036
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 2: it compares on the airplane to all of you infidels

1037
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 2: out there.

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00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:32,760
Speaker 1: You know, some people see.

1039
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 4: Some people where I live, have they they've heard the

1040
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 4: stories of my triumph over Bust twenty seven, for example,

1041
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:42,320
Speaker 4: So you know, maybe you're now a hero of the community.

1042
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 1: I am.

1043
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 2: I am kind of a you might be able to

1044
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 2: get elected to the local Miami Beach Board of Directors

1045
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 2: or whatever they have there, just based on your triumph

1046
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:51,320
Speaker 2: over Bust twenty seven.

1047
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 4: I'm kind of like the robin Hood of annoying sounds

1048
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