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Speaker 2: And I did have a question in the comments from

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Speaker 2: yesterday show, Matt. Somebody asked me they have three quarterbacks, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Sam Darnold Tonight Tonight Cousins and who is the other one? Baker? Baker.

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Speaker 2: Mayfield asked me, you're playing each other, right, Yeah, no,

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Speaker 2: Baker and Cousins are playing each other. And they asked

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Speaker 2: Baker with the receiving situations, you can't do it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a little rough. Is he cuttable? And like

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Speaker 3: a twelve team league? I don't know about that yet.

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Speaker 3: they want to throw the football.

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Speaker 2: Oh and they were good at it. Yeah, so I

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Speaker 2: can't start him this week. No. Cousins did throw for

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Speaker 2: five hundred yards against Atlanta or against Tampa Bay a

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Speaker 2: typically if the first meeting between two division teams was

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Speaker 2: second time it goes the other the other way. They're

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Speaker 2: just complete coaching change, you know. Yeah, well that didn't work,

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Speaker 2: so let's do this different. So you go, is your answer, Darnold?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I'm leaning towards Cousins just because short

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Speaker 3: week on the road. But the Rams D isn't very.

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Speaker 2: It's not very good. And I think getting the Rams

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Speaker 2: getting Cooper Cup back tonight, which they are, yeah, means

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Speaker 2: their offense should challenge Minnesota a little bit more, meaning

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Speaker 2: the Vikings are gonna have to score a little bit more.

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Speaker 3: It's definitely down to those two for me. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I think Jefferson goes crazy tonight.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and if you think Jefferson's gonna go crazy.

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Speaker 3: But that's my point, right, Yeah, and Hawkinson's rolled out.

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Speaker 3: That's not a big enough dealer for a quarterback sit

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Speaker 3: or start. Neither one really runs. They're about the same.

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Speaker 2: They're about the same. Yeah, I would agree.

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Speaker 3: I'm battling Anthony richardson Tua or Drake May. I think

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Speaker 3: some Friderdsons could really floor out. Though he's unstartable at

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Speaker 2: thursday's beat up, we said that going into again, he

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Speaker 2: was beaten up and the Steelers didn't do him any favors.

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Speaker 2: Now they won sack but they hit him a bunch.

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Speaker 2: He's unstartable too. Yeah, he might be close to being cutable.

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Speaker 2: Remandre Stevenson was a full participant in practice today with

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Speaker 2: They but they did activate him well, I think he

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Speaker 2: They would be the third win. So yeah, I mean

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Speaker 3: It's not crazy. Yeah, right, you could still even win

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Speaker 3: that division, right, That's what I'm saying, the game back

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Speaker 2: Okay, just when you thought, I mean again, I owned

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to cut him. But now you're excited

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Speaker 2: trending in that direction. It's been a while. How about

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Speaker 2: this though, Tyreek Hill with a foot issue added to

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Speaker 3: Tyreek's gonna go insane. He also was limited. Okay, they

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Speaker 2: If they know those guys there, season's over over. Jade

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Speaker 2: he look good and he's roll. Gave Davis limited again

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Speaker 2: Christian Watson with the ankle limited on Thursday, Okay, Dubb

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Speaker 2: I assume he plays next week though. Yeah. Jonathan Taylor

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Speaker 2: So they're getting the bands getting back together. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Again, Richardson needs to complete passes. But at least they're healthy.

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Speaker 3: They have a good line, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he needs a complete process. Dalton and Ka limited

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Speaker 2: again on Thursday with that collarbone injury. Is he still

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Speaker 2: a top ten tight end? No? I don't think. No,

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Speaker 2: he's been passed like he's starting Hunter Henry over him

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Speaker 2: I think so. Dallas Goddard with the hamstring again did

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Speaker 2: a row for him. He's the guy they want to play. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The problem is is that young is going to be

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was kind of appealing. But yeah, I'm

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Speaker 3: not ambitious at all about their passing yet.

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Speaker 2: Deontay Johnson with that rib injury, did not practice on Thursday. Okay,

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Speaker 2: still not ambitious about their passing. Adam Theelam with the

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Speaker 2: big ask. Yeah. Jonathan Brooks limited on Thursday. I don't

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Speaker 3: I mean I thought he looked like a high floor,

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Speaker 3: low ceiling prospect, but he's been a low the floor.

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Speaker 2: The floor is actually the floor. Alan Lazard with a

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Speaker 3: Okay, but Williams would be the three I so, I guess.

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Speaker 3: I mean he's still on the team. Yeah, and I

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Speaker 2: He's still on the team.

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Speaker 3: Lazard still got some passes last week, even though I

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Speaker 2: I think nine targets each.

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Speaker 3: It's not a fantasy unfriendly offense, not a great offense,

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Speaker 3: but they get the ball to people you want to

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Speaker 2: Lazard anyways. No, No, you're something better than that. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: keep that up. So this one's interesting. Brandon Aubrey, who's

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Speaker 2: one of the better kickers in the league, has jury

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Speaker 2: duty this week. Yes, I've never heard of that. He

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Speaker 2: plan for him to be available on Sunday. I mean,

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Speaker 2: at least it's a kicker. But he hasn't kicked all week.

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Speaker 2: He's sitting in a courtroom somewhere. I'd still trust him. Then,

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Speaker 2: I get it. It's just a weird situation.

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Speaker 3: That's an extremely weird situation. What if Dak Prescott got

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Speaker 3: jury duty? Does Jerry make a call and make sure

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Speaker 2: Maybe, I don't know. There's a lot of people in

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Speaker 2: and I've never heard. I don't remember if somebody having jury, dude, right,

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Speaker 2: you would think you'd be able to get out of that.

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Speaker 2: Maybe because you're a kicker, you can't get out of it.

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Speaker 2: I I don't do anything anyways, You'll be fine. Michaeh Parsons.

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Speaker 2: San Franz. Yeah. Michaeh Parsons with that ankle injury, has

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Speaker 2: not yet passed the return to play threshold.

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Speaker 3: Getting almost to that four week mark, right, Yeah, it's

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying that's a loser league towel match, but

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Speaker 3: it's really important for both those teams getting close playoff hopes.

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Speaker 2: See a Bill. No, I think he was with the

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Speaker 3: I would think they get sacks and do good things. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: And we are back. I am Dale Lolly. He is

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Speaker 2: the Matt Williamson and uh Matt. I thought we'd take

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Speaker 2: a look here at Nick Shook's quarterback index this week. Here,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, one last shot of Sewn Watson at thirty two.

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Speaker 2: We'll see where Jamis comes in after his first start

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Speaker 2: He's completing forty eight point five percent of his passes

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Speaker 3: bet the Steelers win a playoff game or make noise.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so, I mean, here's what The Knick Show

428
00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,160
Speaker 2: had to say. It took him nearly a full half

429
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,359
Speaker 2: of football last Sunday night, but Wilson rediscovered some of

430
00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:37,119
Speaker 2: his powers in his first start as a Steeler. Namely,

431
00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,320
Speaker 2: it was his finesse on touch passes, which Wilson used

432
00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,960
Speaker 2: to give big player used to give big play artists

433
00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:46,520
Speaker 2: George Pickens multiple chances to make a difference. Pickens delivered,

434
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,280
Speaker 2: creating a few highlights and catching Wilson's first touchdown pass

435
00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,399
Speaker 2: with Pittsburgh. Wilson kept the good vibes going in the

436
00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,720
Speaker 2: second half, lofting another perfect touch pass to Pat Farremouth,

437
00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:57,680
Speaker 2: who made a one handed grab to help the Steelers

438
00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,920
Speaker 2: move toward another eventual touchdown. Wilson cap to thirty one

439
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 2: point run with one more touchdown past the Van Jefferson,

440
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,919
Speaker 2: taking what started as an uneasy night and turning it

441
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:10,399
Speaker 2: into a romp that justified Mike Tomlin's decision to insert

442
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:14,320
Speaker 2: him into the lineup. We well said, yeah, yeah, and

443
00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:19,920
Speaker 2: here's the thing. As much good stuff as we saw

444
00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 2: from justin Fields, he probably wasn't getting this high. Probably

445
00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 2: not he wasn't leap progging for leap prog and Caleb

446
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:31,480
Speaker 2: Williams or Trevor Lawrence or Justin Herbert, and you could

447
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,119
Speaker 2: argue about all that stuff. You know, maybe maybe he

448
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:35,359
Speaker 2: gets past Jalen Hurts.

449
00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, the way he's playing, maybe right, but no, I'm

450
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:42,480
Speaker 3: with you. The thing he doesn't mention there though, is

451
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 3: all the mental stuff, the procedural stuff, you know, getting

452
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,640
Speaker 3: in the right play, that kind of thing. I think

453
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 3: that was night and day. That's the best thing Wilson did.

454
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:59,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, at seventeen down a spot. Matthew Stafford not throwing touchdowns,

455
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 2: but been kind of weird year for him. He's three

456
00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 2: touchdown passes, four interceptions in six games. Now, maybe it

457
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 2: will look different tonight. Yeah, since he's got his guys back.

458
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 2: I was saying the same thing. It's like, let's not

459
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,639
Speaker 2: be too critical, but the lack of mobility is an issue.

460
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,160
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah. I mean like if we were doing

461
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 2: preseason one though, he might have been six for me

462
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,680
Speaker 2: and I wouldn't be like, and I haven't thought, man,

463
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 2: he's had a terrible year where you could say that

464
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 2: about Hurts Lawrence, you know.

465
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, at sixteen up to spots.

466
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:38,159
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers based on what. Yeah, in that game, I

467
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,200
Speaker 2: thought Aaron Rodgers looked horrible. Last night. Aaron Rodgers looked

468
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:42,880
Speaker 2: as bad as I've seen Aaron Rodgers look.

469
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 3: Last week I thought so too. I think he's a

470
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:46,960
Speaker 3: little banged up. I don't think he likes getting hit.

471
00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,439
Speaker 3: As we mentioned all last week, there's more low lights

472
00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:50,920
Speaker 3: than ever.

473
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,200
Speaker 2: He's already thrown seven interceptions. Yeah, and that's not he

474
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 2: used to have whole seasons when he didn't throw seven

475
00:23:56,359 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 2: interceptions three Yeah, I mean it's insane seasons that way. Yeah,

476
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 2: I would not be. That's if you're gonna ding Stafford, right,

477
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 2: like you know what I mean, Like somebody's give Stafford.

478
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:10,359
Speaker 2: Give Stafford for Aaron Rodgers weapons, right, but he has

479
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:15,359
Speaker 2: had all season long. Rogers would be hurt or hurt

480
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 2: yeah in quotes. If he was with the Rams, feelings

481
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 2: would be hurt. Right, throwing to Wittingham and his head

482
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 2: would be spinning and he'd be putting fingers everywhere. Yeah,

483
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:28,680
Speaker 2: put Stafford on the Jets be just fine. Yeah at

484
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 2: fifteen down, two spots, Kirk Cousins.

485
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Speaker 3: Okay, I don't think he's blowing my doors off. I mean, ever,

486
00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 3: even remembers that five hundred yard game, and that's great,

487
00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 3: but that.

488
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 2: Was three weeks ago. It was a while ago. And

489
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:42,640
Speaker 2: he puts the ball in Harm's way a lot. Yeah,

490
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 2: he's got seven interceptions.

491
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Speaker 3: And that's a big number. Five humbles too, Yeah, it's

492
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:51,640
Speaker 3: a lot. That's too many in seven games. I don't

493
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:54,639
Speaker 3: know how this guy moved up a spot. Fourteen is

494
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,880
Speaker 3: Kyler Murray. He is looking he ran well, but he's

495
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 3: look bad the last couple of So this is this

496
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 3: is the territory that Russell Wilson is in. Here he

497
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 3: continues to play like he played last week, or even better,

498
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 3: let's let's say he continues to play like he played

499
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 3: in the second half of last.

500
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 2: Week's He's going to move past these guys if they

501
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,120
Speaker 2: all play like they've played, if they continue to play

502
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,159
Speaker 2: like they played all season, I mean, like Wilson was

503
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,680
Speaker 2: better than Rogers on on Sunday night. Yeah, without a doubt,

504
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,880
Speaker 2: no doubt, without a doubt. You know, we'll see. I mean,

505
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 2: it is a short sample size, but yeah, if you

506
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:32,879
Speaker 2: can keep it up, if you can keep that up,

507
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 2: you also just didn't fall out of the sky. And

508
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,480
Speaker 2: we've never had any never seen him play football before either,

509
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 2: you know, he's certainly capable. Yeah. At thirteen down a

510
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 2: spot Dak Prescott, I bet there's not twelve quarterbacks.

511
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,399
Speaker 3: I take it over Dak Prescott, but I know that's not

512
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:49,879
Speaker 3: exactly what his exercise is.

513
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 2: But he has no running game. He's o line. Just

514
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 2: say one more thing about the Russell Wilson thing. Yeah,

515
00:25:55,920 --> 00:26:01,679
Speaker 2: there's this, there's this idea that's mainly driven by the

516
00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 2: national media that he was somehow awful last year in Denver.

517
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 2: I would love to go back and look at this

518
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,679
Speaker 2: quarterback ranking from last year, and I bet he was

519
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:18,440
Speaker 2: right around the same eighteen nineteen. He was never in Watson.

520
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 3: No, it's funny that those two got traded the same

521
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 3: year and they're both big contracts and it didn't work

522
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:25,400
Speaker 3: out for the team and traded for him.

523
00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 2: But they're not the same, no, not even No. One

524
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 2: can actually play football and the other one looks like

525
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:34,400
Speaker 2: he's ready to go play golf or something. Yeah and anything.

526
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 2: But but I just don't understand that some of the

527
00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:44,399
Speaker 2: national hatred for Russell Wilson, like he's done. Yeah, Like

528
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 2: I don't think so. At twelve down, three spots, Rock Purty. Well,

529
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 2: there's maybe his worst game as a Niner. And here's

530
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 2: what's happening with Brock Purty. And it's what's what we've

531
00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 2: kind of said all along. He is great in that

532
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 2: system with other great player, with great players around him. Yeah,

533
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,439
Speaker 2: you start taking the great players away from him, and

534
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 2: he's not an elevator.

535
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 3: That being said, I thought he was really good without

536
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 3: McCaffrey for most of this year.

537
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he still had ayuk and debo, no question.

538
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,439
Speaker 3: Now you take those and any quarterback would suffer in

539
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:21,679
Speaker 3: that situation exactly.

540
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 2: I mean, he's getting hit really hard by extenuating circumstances.

541
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 2: Unless you're talking about Patrick Mahomes. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,

542
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 2: we're some of those guys, you know. But he's And

543
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 2: that's going to be the conundrum that San Francisco has

544
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 2: after this year when they got to pay him. How

545
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,640
Speaker 2: do you keep the debos and Trent Williams and all two. Yeah,

546
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 2: someone's gonna go. Someone has to go. Yeah, or you know,

547
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 2: you got to hit on those guys because he's not

548
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 2: going to be the cheap guy anymore. You can't pay him.

549
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,880
Speaker 2: Miami has that issue, Yeah, same thing, right, you can't

550
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 2: pay him fifty million dollars, but they're gonna have to

551
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 2: to keep him, and so there for you're going to

552
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 2: see them maybe come into the same sort of decision

553
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 2: that the Rams made with Jared Goff, who we haven't

554
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 2: even gotten to yet on this list, Right, do we

555
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 2: want to pay this guy? Do we think he is

556
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,640
Speaker 2: is a guy that can take us to the next level, which.

557
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 3: She had already done right, right, right? Or do we

558
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 3: want him try to find the next one?

559
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 2: Which is exactly what they did with Jimmy.

560
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 3: They trade up for Lance and totally locked out and

561
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 3: got this guy with mister irrelevant because the Lance trade

562
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,120
Speaker 3: is as bad as the Watson or Wilson trade.

563
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 2: That's what That's what's gonna be fascinating about this, because

564
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 2: they've already done it once. Do they feel like they

565
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:33,880
Speaker 2: do they roll the dice? Got well, we can find

566
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 2: another brock party get.

567
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 3: I get the thought process, like if you get if

568
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:43,160
Speaker 3: I can use all my resources on Trent Williams and

569
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 3: really nice stuff, and I'm a good offensive coach like

570
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 3: Shanahan or mcveay. I get that thought process. But it's

571
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 3: hard to work with that dude every day.

572
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 2: Groom him and be like all right see him, yeah right,

573
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 2: best of a lot the door hit. Yeah, yeah, it's

574
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 2: kinda be answering. And party's completion percentage this year is down.

575
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 2: They're playing totally different.

576
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 3: Sixty three point nine percent, their play action stuff down.

577
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 3: His average depth of targets way up. It's not they're

578
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 3: playing without McCaffrey, right, yeah, I mean there's a lot

579
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 3: of it. You know, there's a lot of a lot

580
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 3: of don't matter. They don't matter at all. And plus

581
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 3: IUK hasn't really been good. He hasn't been the change

582
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 3: the rest of this year. There no, no, they're they're

583
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 3: in a weird spot. I just feel like it's not

584
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 3: their year.

585
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 1: Uh.

586
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 2: At eleven, up six spots. Sam Darnold a little rich.

587
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 2: He was okay last week against yeah, Detroit, but he

588
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 2: was he wasn't great. He wasn't great. That's a little

589
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 2: rich for me. At ten, down two spots. Baker Mayfield,

590
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 2: that's had a really good year. I thought he was

591
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 2: awful ones awful. He threw more hospital balls in that

592
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 2: game than anybody and got away with it. He went

593
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 2: down though, right, yeah, he went down to ST's had

594
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 2: a really good year.

595
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 3: That was a bad that was a bad showing, and

596
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 3: I think he'll always have a game or two like

597
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 3: that every year. Yeah, I think that's just who he is.

598
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 3: He's so wound up. And you know, at nine up

599
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,479
Speaker 3: a spot, Gino Smith, he's a top ten quarterback. I

600
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 3: very much believe that. I think he's the most underrated

601
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 3: guy in that list. I mean, nine is where he

602
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 3: should be. Yeah, it's not.

603
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 2: I guess I think he's a free agent after the year,

604
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 2: is he really?

605
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 3: I think so sounds right when he thought, but he's

606
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 3: thirty four, he's older.

607
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

608
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 3: Interesting, real quick, I heard a really good conversation about

609
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 3: Donald and Fields and Baker and all these guys that

610
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 3: flopped one place and go to the new place and

611
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 3: matured and did better. And the same analyst, who I

612
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 3: really respect him with quarterbacks, said Gino the league, the

613
00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 3: league just missed on him. Yeah, he missed these other

614
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 3: teams or these other quarterbacks. They screwed it up, they

615
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 3: were in bad situations. The league just undervalued Gino, Like

616
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 3: he went to the Jets and they didn't know what

617
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 3: he had.

618
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 2: He was.

619
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Speaker 3: He's been good all along. You know, give Seattle credit.

620
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,880
Speaker 3: I thought they were insane when they trade Wilson is like,

621
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 3: we're gonna have Geno and Locke try out for the

622
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 3: starting job. I'm like, are you just trying to lose

623
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 3: every game? Well, Locke is at eight up three spots.

624
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 3: Jordan Love. He's a wild stallion, but boy, he's good

625
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 3: and talented coming into his own. Yeah, he makes some throws.

626
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 2: Man at seven down a spot Jaden Daniels. I don't

627
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 2: know how can move him down based off of him

628
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 2: getting hurt last week. Yeah, I don't know that he

629
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 2: should be that high yet either.

630
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 3: But yeah, like I'd rather remarkable Sey Jordan Love. I'd

631
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 3: rather play against Jayden Daniels than Love at six down

632
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 3: a spot.

633
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 2: C J. Stroud. Last couple of weeks haven't been good.

634
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 2: Haven't been good. I don't blame him much, but he

635
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 2: hasn't gotten better. I mean, he's maybe ninety percent of

636
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 2: what he was last year. And we talked about the

637
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 2: O Lion earlier in the show. Has been rough. Losing

638
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 2: Nico shouldn't hurt you. That shouldn't It shouldn't be a

639
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 2: killer when you.

640
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 3: Have considering what you have. It's not like Jefferson being

641
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 3: gone and you don't have anything else.

642
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 2: But he's a really good player at five up two

643
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 2: spots Jared Goff. I think he's an MVP conversation. He's

644
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 2: been really good too, rarely hits the ground was nine

645
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 2: point three yards per attempt, Yeah, per attempt. Unbelievably efficient. Yeah,

646
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 2: I mean he's he's completing almost seventy four percent of

647
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 2: his passes. Best he's ever played at four Josh Allen

648
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 2: mm hmm, not as much as been quite asked of him.

649
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 3: He still doesn't thrown an interception this year. I know,

650
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 3: seven games in he's still my two.

651
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I don't you know whatever three is

652
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,000
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow. I would have Allen over Burrow, but Burrow's

653
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 2: having a really good year. He's having a good year

654
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 2: as well. Two Patrick Mahomes, okay, and one is Lamar.

655
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 3: I mean Lamar is having a much better year than Mahomes.

656
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 3: But everyone the planet would take Mahomes co yes, you

657
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 3: know right, Yeah, I mean, I mean, I get doing that,

658
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 3: but I wouldn't do that.

659
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 2: I don't know what Mahomes would have to do for

660
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 2: me not to be one.

661
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 3: I get it, you know what I mean, But if

662
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 3: he's not, that's my part of the problem with this list.

663
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 3: And I would have the same problem if I did

664
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 3: thirty two.

665
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 2: If you leave Mahomes at one, then shouldn't Herbert be

666
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 2: eight and Dak and Stafford. You do have to factor

667
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 2: in how they're you know, how they're playing right now, right,

668
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 2: I mean they bumped down Mahomes to two. Seems like,

669
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 2: oh my god, right, but he's throwing six touchdowns in

670
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 2: eight interception.

671
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 3: Ten guys on that list have had a better year

672
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 3: than him. Yeah, you know, which is crazy, but we'd

673
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 3: all take Mahomes. It's why Aaron Rodgers is still sixteen

674
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 3: on this list. Yeah, exactly, because well that's a career.

675
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 2: That's what I say. He's not playing like the sixteen.

676
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 2: If you cly Mahomes of two, then Stafford should be

677
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 2: at eight. Yeah, you know, you can't really have it

678
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 2: both ways. I mean, think about how this season started.

679
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 2: I remember when when we started putting the together, Like

680
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson's at like nineteen, I'm like, that's way too high.

681
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 2: Like he's done nothing the last two years to show

682
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 2: that he's the nineteenth best quarterback in like that is

683
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,760
Speaker 2: a projection that makes.

684
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 3: Him in bad six weeks. Now, that's him having a

685
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 3: bad three years. Right, right, right, So you know, but

686
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 3: again I would have Mahomes one. I mean I get

687
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 3: putting like Lamar too, where he was maybe five when

688
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 3: I started the season or four and digging some of

689
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 3: these guys moving up a love you know that those that, Yeah,

690
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 3: he had a small body of work coming in, you know,

691
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 3: but you're digging some not all time great well kind of,

692
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,800
Speaker 3: I mean you're digging some real big body of work guys.

693
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 2: But then a guy like Jayden Daniels is seven, yeah,

694
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 2: and he was six and he was six last week, Like,

695
00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:44,959
Speaker 2: I mean.

696
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 3: He's been better than Mahomes this year. Yeah, but how

697
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 3: do you rank those two? You know, right, it's a

698
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 3: it's a hard exercise. There's no right answer for that.

699
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 2: Yeah. So that's where the that's where this at. And again,

700
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson being at what you say, eighteen right now,

701
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,479
Speaker 2: if he as another game this week like he had

702
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 2: last week, he'll be fifteen. Do it for a month,

703
00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 2: you'll be twelve, right, you know, Right, that's what you're

704
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,720
Speaker 2: shooting for, that's what that's what you want. And again,

705
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 2: as we said all along, if the Steelers get that

706
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 2: kind of quarterback play, they are a legitimate threat.

707
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:18,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been a while since we've seen it. Yeah,

708
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 3: I mean it's people probably like no way, you've been

709
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 3: playing with twenty five, twenty six, twenty seven for a

710
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 3: long time.

711
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been below average for a long long time. Right,

712
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 2: you didn't throw touchdown passes for a long time. Right.

713
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 2: If you can get average or above, that's a step

714
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 2: up for the hole franchise. Yeah, and it lifts it

715
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,560
Speaker 2: makes the defense so much better. Like they if the

716
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 2: defense goes into a game knowing, hey, we don't have

717
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 2: to hold this team to fifteen or sixteen or seventeen

718
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,320
Speaker 2: points to win this game. Yeah, you can play a

719
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 2: little more loose and maybe not necessarily be willing to

720
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 2: make mistakes. But you're not as.

721
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 3: Tight, right, I mean you could be a little more aggressive. Yeah,

722
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 3: certainly it helps the offense. I mean, of course that

723
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 3: goes without saying giving me good players helps the offensive Correa,

724
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 3: But just in terms of man, I don't know if

725
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 3: I should call that right this quarterback.

726
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 2: It's part of the like when people talk about the Steelers,

727
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 2: well they're not blitzing as much this year, and ideally

728
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 2: that's they don't want to blitzer or they haven't wanted

729
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 2: the blitz as much the last couple of years because

730
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 2: they want to play coverage on the back end because

731
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 2: you know, just don't have the bomb. Don't give up

732
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 2: the big play because we don't have the offense that

733
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,399
Speaker 2: can come back from that one. That's a tyson punch

734
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,399
Speaker 2: of the face. Now you might and that changes how

735
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 2: you play defense. And I've been giving this a lot

736
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 2: of thought. It's a whole different subject, the blitz stuff.

737
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 3: It's like, if you can get home with four, as

738
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 3: they have for much of the year, great, But one

739
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 3: way to get what on single you know, singled up

740
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 3: is bringing the landing Roberts right next to the right.

741
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:52,839
Speaker 2: I mean right now there. I mean I think they

742
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 2: got fifteen sacks for the season. Yeah, it's not what

743
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 2: you would expect from the Steelers defense.

744
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 3: So you're really not you're not getting there with the four,

745
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 3: not because who is the last couple of weeks, I have

746
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 3: two sacks the last two games. You're not getting there

747
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,440
Speaker 3: with the four. And if you're not against the Giants,

748
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 3: it's like WHOA. That would be an alarm belt to

749
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 3: me because I do think it's the best D line

750
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 3: in the league.

751
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 2: I do too. You know, and I don't think they're

752
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,160
Speaker 2: playing badly. No, I'm not saying that at all. I

753
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,799
Speaker 2: mean they're not getting the run. Defense has been outstanding. Yeah,

754
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 2: and they get pressure and they influence the game a

755
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 2: great deal. What's the best example. Yeah, but you could

756
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 2: get more sacks with those type of pass rushers. Yeah,

757
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:30,239
Speaker 2: you just have to be willing to do it. And

758
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 2: maybe you will be willing more willing to do that

759
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 2: knowing that your offense, hey, we're not limited to twenty

760
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 2: points or you're playing with the lead. Where you're playing

761
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 2: with the lead. Yeah. Yeah, So let's get to a break.

762
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 2: That was Nick Shook's Quarterback Index ranking on nfl dot Com.

763
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 2: He is Matt Williamson, I am Dale Lolly, Matt and

764
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765
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:53,959
Speaker 2: after this. At least.

766
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767
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Speaker 2: This is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio and I

778
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 2: am Dale Lolly. He is Matt Williamson and Matt. The

779
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 2: Steelers will face the last three winners of the Coach

780
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 2: of the Year award in the NFL oh Wow this season, Okay,

781
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 2: of this season twice at Cleveland and Brian dave Ball

782
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 2: this weekend one of two years ago. Mike Tomlin's never

783
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 2: even like, I don't even think he's finished top three

784
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 2: in that in that I don't know about that. I

785
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:03,439
Speaker 2: know he's never won.

786
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 3: It Could this be the year? I was thinking that too.

787
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 3: You know, when you use two different quarterbacks is a real.

788
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:11,800
Speaker 2: You know, eye catcher.

789
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, like you have four and two with

790
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,479
Speaker 3: the backup and then you get better with the next

791
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 3: guy potentially, Yeah, that would go a long way. I

792
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:27,720
Speaker 3: think people need to recognize too that blocking kicks, winning

793
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 3: tight games, it's coaching. Yeah, I mean, it's such a

794
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 3: trend with him in this organization that all the analytics

795
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 3: they're going to regress to the mean, but they never do.

796
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 3: Some of those other teams do, but they don't, you know,

797
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 3: like maybe there's something to.

798
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 2: This, Maybe maybe they know what they're doing here, and

799
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 2: so I would also, you know, there's there's a basically

800
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 2: a front office person of the Year as well. I

801
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 2: see a lot of people complaining about Omar Khan. Well,

802
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 2: I can't believe Omar Khan hasn't gotten the wide receiver.

803
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 2: That's like the only complaint I've heard, though everyone else

804
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 2: loves every movie mank what he's done with the wide

805
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 2: receiver or with the quarterback position. I think they've handled

806
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 2: this amazingly well, considering that they paid nothing for either

807
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 2: paid nothing. That's remarkable.

808
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:16,879
Speaker 3: The guys that you've added on that defense, the guys

809
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 3: that you've added just you know, across the board.

810
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 2: The porter draft class, the draft is really really good.

811
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 2: This draft class is just injured at the moment. I

812
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 2: mean at the moment, but Fraser has been maybe the

813
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 2: best offensive lineman in this draft. And I was thinking

814
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 2: the first rounder is not a round. So it's hard

815
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:37,320
Speaker 2: to judge class of course, but you're starting two rookies

816
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 2: on your offensive line at this point. Our friend of

817
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,240
Speaker 2: the show at right, McCormick who was on with us earlier,

818
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 2: and Frasier who should be back after the bye week.

819
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 2: I think both those guys are long term starters, absolutely,

820
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 2: and you've got them both in the same draft. And

821
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 2: then you had Fatan who maybe you might have you

822
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 2: might have built the whole right side of your line

823
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 2: right draft in one draft.

824
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 3: Absolutely, and who knows, books certainly not written on Roman

825
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:05,879
Speaker 3: Wilson and some others too. You know, Roger Jones pick

826
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 3: is looking questionable at the moment, but that book's not written.

827
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 2: No, you know, who are other Coach of the Year candidates.

828
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 2: I've really given this little thought. I guess McDonald and

829
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 2: the Seattle would have to be not bad. It would

830
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,280
Speaker 2: have to be I bet if we were on Chiefs

831
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 2: Audio Network, we might be like, but you're expected to

832
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,279
Speaker 2: do that. That's the thing that that's why you don't

833
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 2: win back and you know all those guys. That's part

834
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 2: of the argument though for Tomlin when the season opened

835
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 2: this year, they're over under. Win total was seven and

836
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 2: a half.

837
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,799
Speaker 3: But that's always hurt Tomlin. Oh, yeah, well another winning season. Yeah,

838
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 3: you guys are good.

839
00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 2: Seven and a half, though, was rather the lowest win

840
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 2: totals for any team this year. Bumped up to everybody

841
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:51,879
Speaker 2: bet it. It went up to eight and a half,

842
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 2: but it opened way too low. And that's Vikings are candidates.

843
00:41:57,120 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 3: The Vikings are certainly they're probably the leader. Vegas right

844
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 3: now would be my hunch. Yeah, how about the Packers.

845
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:08,240
Speaker 3: I know, these some teams with high expectations. Expectations were there,

846
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 3: but the Malik Willis thing.

847
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,919
Speaker 2: Okay, so they went to and oh Tomlin went four

848
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,120
Speaker 2: and two with his backup fields a lot better player

849
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 2: than Willis. I mean, I get it. I mean that's

850
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:22,359
Speaker 2: that's that's a nice feather in their cab. I would

851
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 2: think Minnesota's one, Pittsburgh two. I mean, unless I'm missing somebody,

852
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 2: Chargers look better, but they don't look like they're not

853
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 2: going to be good enough to I.

854
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 3: Mean, they'd have to get in the playoffs to even

855
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 3: be considered. Yeah, I'm not ready to go Baltimore or

856
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 3: Detroit or you know these teams that are top of

857
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:40,560
Speaker 3: the power ran.

858
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Detroit was expected to being maybe. I

859
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 2: mean you talking about no expectation. They're kind of like

860
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 2: this year's Texans. Yeah, I think he was runner up

861
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 2: last year in Houston, and he should have won it

862
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,320
Speaker 2: last year though, wanted to. I mean that shouldn't It

863
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:53,959
Speaker 2: shouldn't even have been a question, right.

864
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,399
Speaker 3: Tomlin's case as strong as those ones, though. I think

865
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 3: those the top three Washington, Pittsburgh and Minnesota. Yeah, Seattle

866
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:01,399
Speaker 3: probably four, something like that.

867
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:06,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just you know, guys Chuck Nolan never won it, right.

868
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 2: I think Belichick didn't either. Coward wanted his first year

869
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 2: because again, the expectations were low. They you know, he

870
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 2: was a good coach. Y.

871
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't give that award to the good coaches.

872
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 2: Right, it's a weird I mean, Stefanski's won it twice

873
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 2: and there's a good chance he gets fired after this season,

874
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 2: real good chance and day Ball make it too much

875
00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 2: is going to be around. Well, they've already said, they said,

876
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 2: they came out and said that, you know, those guys

877
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:35,760
Speaker 2: are safe. Yeah, so I hear you. But man Tomin's

878
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 2: got a good case. I think omar CON's got a

879
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 2: good case for GM of the Year.

880
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 3: I'd have to think about that one. I mean who

881
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 3: else had really good off seasons and draft classes.

882
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 2: Washington might be another one. Washington might be one.

883
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 3: It's nice when you picked two. Yeah, that's another thing.

884
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,280
Speaker 3: And that's the difference. It's like Kevin Colbert argument. Yeah,

885
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,480
Speaker 3: like when you average like the twenty fifth pick in

886
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 3: the draft, your whole career is a GM and you

887
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 3: will build awesome rosters and you don't get to take

888
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 3: Cam Newton and Patrick Peterson that year. You get Cam

889
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 3: Hayward and you're just as happy. Yeick and later, Yeah,

890
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:11,959
Speaker 3: like you see what I'm saying, Like that's or TJ.

891
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:13,960
Speaker 2: Watt. You know, you don't get Miles Garrett that my

892
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 2: sister could have picked. You get t J. Watt, who's

893
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:17,799
Speaker 2: just as good at the end of the round. You know,

894
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 2: Like now you're talking, now you're talking. It's a little different. Yeah,

895
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 2: but yeah, I mean I just think that that if

896
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 2: the Steelers, and maybe this is just some recency bias

897
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,240
Speaker 2: because they've scored thirty plus points their last two games,

898
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 2: but they look like a legit contender right now.

899
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, the second half a season could be

900
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,840
Speaker 3: a total opposite. It's much tougher teams. I get a question,

901
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 3: but this is what you want. This is what you

902
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 3: positioned yourself for.

903
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,919
Speaker 2: If they win on they went on Monday night, they're

904
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:47,800
Speaker 2: six and two going into the by going to the

905
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 2: buy and then you're four and one in the conference,

906
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 2: you're tied for first in the division. You still have

907
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 2: a bunch of home games. You should be getting healthier.

908
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 2: Someton comes back. You know, you know who your starting

909
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:02,200
Speaker 2: quarterback is. You'll get frazier back, You'll get Yeah, if

910
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 2: you look at it like two different seasons, Yeah, you

911
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 2: come into season number two pretty good, you know what

912
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 2: I mean, like her big, you know, unless something terrible

913
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 2: happens one day night. But yeah, I like where you're

914
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 2: entering season two. Yeah, you've positions. And again the NFL

915
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 2: coaches always break things down into fourth quarters. In the quarters,

916
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 2: now that there's the extra there's a little overtime now

917
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 2: at the end of the season, right, but through through

918
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 2: four quarters, you'll be six and two. You'd take that

919
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 2: every time.

920
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:34,439
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, And I bet they regret both those games

921
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 3: because I think they were winnable. They were winnable games.

922
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 3: And I think I was on last night say and

923
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,880
Speaker 3: talked to Tom and Tim that if they played them,

924
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 3: the Colts or Dallas this week. I picked Steelers. Yeah,

925
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 3: I mean it's not like what could have been. You

926
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:50,240
Speaker 3: lose games in this league.

927
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,359
Speaker 2: You lost them by three points. Yes, I mean, and

928
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 2: you screwed them up. You screwed them up. It's not

929
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 2: that those teams did anything spectacular. You screwed them up.

930
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 3: I think you're better than both those teams. Yeah, you know,

931
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 3: I'm not saying you have to you should be eight. No,

932
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 3: that's how the world works.

933
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,800
Speaker 2: In the NFL, right, Like, oh, you put the Steelers

934
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 2: to win every week? Well, I have this year because

935
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 2: I thought that they were the better team every week

936
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,399
Speaker 2: that they played the second half.

937
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 3: Right, he's supposed to do that in the Raider week,

938
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 3: you know, right. I mean, if they had the Panthers

939
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 3: this week, and I'm gonna take.

940
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 2: Take the Steelers. You know, when they're playing in Cincinnati,

941
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 2: I'll probably take Cincinnati. When they're playing in Baltimore, I'll

942
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 2: probably take Baltimore.

943
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 3: I haven't given a deep thought, but I'm pretty sure

944
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 3: I'm gonna pick them this week too.

945
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:34,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it is what it is, right. You know,

946
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 2: you see the team enough that you're arounded enough that

947
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:39,359
Speaker 2: you have a pretty good feeling about where they're at.

948
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 2: But anyways, that's gonna do it. For our show today,

949
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Speaker 2: we'd like to thank Mason McCormick, Steelers guard, for coming

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Speaker 2: on with us. He's now primed for a big week,

951
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 2: a big game this week. Beanie Bishop blew up Parody's

952
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 2: a big week. He's gonna have even better week this week.

953
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 2: He's gonna They're gonna shut Dexter Lawrence out. Dexter Lawrence

954
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Speaker 2: will not have a sack because Mason Moore tackle. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's it. Yeah. Also for my partner Matt Williamson, for

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Speaker 2: Justin Miller here running the Justin Miller hotline, and for

957
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Speaker 2: Tyler Viitt Meyer here making sure our video gets out

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Speaker 2: onto the public airwaves. For whatever reason you want to watch.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to judge, but I'm dale Lolly. We

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Speaker 2: thank you for listening to this edition of the Drive

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Speaker 2: on the Steelers Audio Network