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Speaker 2: And unless you know your chart, unless you're just what

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Speaker 2: Sure, And it's just like I remember before I actually

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Speaker 2: I think other people can probably relate to this, like

430
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Speaker 2: that's the way I want to do it right, but

431
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Speaker 2: I have to factor in all the people I'm working

432
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Speaker 2: with you know, like I'm dressing an artist that has

433
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Speaker 2: their own personality, their own vision, their own body insecurities.

434
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Speaker 2: Then there's management and the label, and they all have

435
00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:45,639
Speaker 2: the same things that they're factoring in. So if I

436
00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,440
Speaker 2: get so set in my ways of what would be perfect,

437
00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:52,520
Speaker 2: I'm always going to be disappointed, right, because it's not

438
00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,080
Speaker 2: leaving room for that. And so then if it doesn't

439
00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:56,679
Speaker 2: go exactly the way I would want it to, a

440
00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:58,240
Speaker 2: lot of times in the past, I would look at

441
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,679
Speaker 2: that as failure instead of learning right, and or like

442
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,960
Speaker 2: if they're happy when they leave my fitting or something

443
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,600
Speaker 2: like that, like that's still a win even if it

444
00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:11,720
Speaker 2: wasn't exactly perfect for me, If that makes sense. Yeah,

445
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:13,719
Speaker 2: I've had Yeah, I've just had to like EBB and

446
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:18,040
Speaker 2: flow through that because I think there's a great, great

447
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 2: benefit to having pride in your work and wanting to

448
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,560
Speaker 2: do a good job, like for sure. And on the

449
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,280
Speaker 2: flip side, I think you have to leave room for

450
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:30,359
Speaker 2: other nuances of life and jobs and work and whatever.

451
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,199
Speaker 2: We're talking about it in work, but this can be

452
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Speaker 2: in anything.

453
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Speaker 1: It can be in anything, relationships, whatever it's things aren't

454
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 1: always going to I mean, look some of the greatest

455
00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 1: artists of all time implode because people just yes them

456
00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:48,680
Speaker 1: to death, for sure, And I feel like I'm around

457
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,640
Speaker 1: artist I work with artists that are actually open. It's

458
00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:55,520
Speaker 1: not always easy to receive constructive criticism, but I feel

459
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Speaker 1: like they hear it, you know. And that's the way

460
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Speaker 1: to have any sort of long longevity, whether it be

461
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:05,400
Speaker 1: in a relationship and a job, in a creative position, whatever,

462
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,959
Speaker 1: is to like listen to criticism. And that doesn't mean

463
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 1: you have to take it. It doesn't mean you have

464
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,159
Speaker 1: to agree with it. But if you can listen to

465
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:17,119
Speaker 1: it and absorb it and be curious about it, it

466
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:18,919
Speaker 1: might actually make you better at whatever.

467
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Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, Yeah, Yeah, I do think it's a tough

468
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:24,600
Speaker 2: pill to swallow, but like you said, it can be

469
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Speaker 2: the most valuable.

470
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

471
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 2: I always try to, like, if my ego wants to

472
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 2: bump up when someone's telling me something I could do better,

473
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Speaker 2: I'm like, this isn't your highest good listen, you know,

474
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,639
Speaker 2: like right, But it's not our human instinct, often, I

475
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:39,880
Speaker 2: don't think so. It does sometimes take me a little

476
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:43,080
Speaker 2: bit of practice, and it's gotten way easier as i've

477
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:44,720
Speaker 2: gotten older. I think when I was younger, I just

478
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:46,880
Speaker 2: would take it if you're insecure at all, you can't

479
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:47,560
Speaker 2: handle it.

480
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 1: Like, what's also about the delivery and how you receive

481
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,040
Speaker 1: it too, because if someone's just being an asshole, I mean,

482
00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 1: look back to the best sandwich example, Like I could

483
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Speaker 1: make you what is what I think is the best sandwich,

484
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,439
Speaker 1: but you're like, I fucking hate hot peppers, you know

485
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:03,880
Speaker 1: what I mean?

486
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 2: And then probably put condiments on it. And I hate condiments, right,

487
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,640
Speaker 2: most people love them, though, So how would you if

488
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,359
Speaker 2: you might take it personal? If you're like, look at

489
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:16,320
Speaker 2: all this mayonnaise, I'd be like I would give Yeah,

490
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,360
Speaker 2: don't tell me I hate maynaise.

491
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 1: She's like fuck sandwiches, like are.

492
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Speaker 2: There vegetables on this? And is a bread gluten free?

493
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:27,400
Speaker 2: I am not your best audience, but you.

494
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Speaker 1: Know what, it's this kind of criticisms that you would

495
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 1: help me learn that not every customer is the same

496
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 1: shape and south.

497
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 2: Right, it's because it's it's also not personal to you

498
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:36,160
Speaker 2: or your skill set.

499
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 1: Right, Oh, you're the weirdo eater. You're the bird, the

500
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,640
Speaker 1: bird gluten.

501
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 2: Birds don't No one should eat gluten though, Okay you

502
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,639
Speaker 2: get on mush it all the time, but like whatever.

503
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,200
Speaker 1: Anyway, eat some rolls, honey.

504
00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,879
Speaker 2: When let's talk a little bit about routines, because you

505
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,440
Speaker 2: open this conversation with talking about your trainer. And then

506
00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,679
Speaker 2: when we thought this was funny, y'all, Chip had a

507
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,479
Speaker 2: note from an outline that has sent him and it says,

508
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Speaker 2: Virgo loves a routine, but uranus square says break free.

509
00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:14,640
Speaker 2: And this is He reads it and he goes, I'm

510
00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 2: just so confused about this part. Virgo loves a routine,

511
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 2: but uranus square says break free.

512
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 1: And I was like this, like why is uranus in

513
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 1: a square? Why square?

514
00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 2: And why is it breaking free? And I was like,

515
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 2: first of all, let's call it uranus.

516
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 1: Is that the correct way to say it?

517
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,080
Speaker 2: I mean, people go all across the board, But I'm

518
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 2: just like, uranus is so aggressive, Like it's too much

519
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:42,879
Speaker 2: like a uranus.

520
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 1: Person like that that's a good it's a good way

521
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 1: to slip a joke in in fifth grade.

522
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, but slip a joke in that's even I mean,

523
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,880
Speaker 2: right there, intended.

524
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 1: To put this joke in square uranus.

525
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,119
Speaker 2: I knew that was going somewhere. There you go, But

526
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,119
Speaker 2: that's the part that you don't really have to worry about.

527
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 2: Like you don't have to understand exactly what planet is

528
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 2: moving into what or squaring what or conjunct what to

529
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:14,400
Speaker 2: understand the energy. So when we were talking about that, though,

530
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 2: it was saying stuff about just talking about our daily

531
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 2: rituals like are they are they things that we can

532
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 2: keep in place? And you kind of said like I

533
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,400
Speaker 2: don't know, So what are you evaluating about your daily

534
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 2: rituals right now? Like what are you bumping up against

535
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:31,080
Speaker 2: that you might change in this kind of evaluating time.

536
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 1: Well, you know, in this hiring the trainer and stuff,

537
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,640
Speaker 1: I was reevaluating like most of my life, like when

538
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 1: I was eating, what I was eating, when I was

539
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,239
Speaker 1: working out, all these things, and it's like, I mean,

540
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,439
Speaker 1: I have a checklist for the morning, and it's like

541
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 1: it takes me a good two hours to get everything

542
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 1: done before I should even like pick up my phone

543
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 1: to look at an email, look at social media, whatever.

544
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 1: Some days it's easier than others. But what something that

545
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 1: I've noticed that I struggle with is the days that

546
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 1: I'm not good, It sets me on this like path

547
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 1: of failure where then I get in that feedback loop

548
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 1: of like you're not good enough, like you can't even

549
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: do your morning routine, or I'll notice it's like eleven

550
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 1: thirty and I've just I've like sat down and I've

551
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 1: started working right away, and I'm like, I haven't even

552
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 1: brushed my teeth today. And that is something that I

553
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,520
Speaker 1: had to like put on my daily routine in the morning.

554
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 1: Not that I don't brush my teeth, but it was

555
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 1: like I wanted to start thinking about my morning as

556
00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: a checklist, like how to like open the blinds, take

557
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 1: ten deep breasts, drink a cup of water, Like I

558
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 1: put all of that stuff on there, and you know,

559
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: eventually it will just become habit and I won't even

560
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,160
Speaker 1: think about it because I'm sure like if I sat

561
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 1: back and looked like I had a morning routine, it

562
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,840
Speaker 1: just wasn't serving me properly. And now I've got this

563
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 1: idea of the perfect morning routine that I should be accomplishing,

564
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 1: and there are some days that I nail it and

565
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 1: some days that I don't, And so now I need to,

566
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:02,440
Speaker 1: like I need to reevaluate that morning routine and be like, Okay,

567
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:04,360
Speaker 1: what are some of the things that I can move

568
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,719
Speaker 1: to mid day so that it doesn't feel so overwhelming

569
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 1: Because there are mornings that where I wake up and

570
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't want to do any of it,

571
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 1: of course, you know, I don't want to like fuck

572
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: my deep breaths.

573
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's interesting that you say that, because I've almost

574
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 2: been going through a similar thing. And what I notice

575
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 2: is when I travel, everything gets off killed all because

576
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 2: my routine could be you know, in place, and I

577
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 2: love I love having a morning routine. It's like very

578
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 2: the ritual of that is very soothing to me. So

579
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 2: I love that. But then there's other things that, like

580
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 2: some things I'm trying to do because I'm trying to

581
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 2: work on my sleep, which is a constant work in

582
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 2: progress for me, but like that I'm supposed to do

583
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 2: these exercises every night and deep breathing, like you said,

584
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 2: and it's like sometimes I get to the end of

585
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 2: the day and I'm like, I don't want to fucking.

586
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: Do this, Like I just want to get back in bed, yeaheah.

587
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 2: And then I'll travel and everything gets thrown off and

588
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 2: I'm staying up later and all the things I really

589
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 2: got when I got back to town this week, because

590
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 2: I was in New York all last week and I

591
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 2: was realizing the same thing had happened and I was

592
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,040
Speaker 2: doing the thing you're saying where I was beating myself

593
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 2: up and just like, oh, you can never be consistent.

594
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 2: And I was like, Okay, I could sit here and

595
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 2: just shit on myself, or I could just start again,

596
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 2: start again. Like the other thing is, like what I've

597
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 2: started doing now is I think we're so trained for

598
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 2: instant gratification that I want results fast from everything I'm doing,

599
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 2: Like I just want it to happen overnight. And the

600
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 2: stuff that I'm doing is like a lot of somatic stuff,

601
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,959
Speaker 2: and that stuff does not happen overnight. So what I

602
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 2: also said to myself was this isn't gonna happen fast anyway.

603
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 2: So like if there's a day that I just don't

604
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 2: want to do it, or I'm exhausted because I've had

605
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 2: a long day, or my body isn't feeling it, like

606
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna listen to that and I'm gonna honor

607
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 2: that so that then and then say to myself, we'll

608
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 2: try again tomorrow. You know, Like the gentler approach seems

609
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 2: to register with my body so much better than going

610
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 2: into like this regimented thing. Because when I'm super regimented.

611
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 2: I'm like you, like, I can't maintain it long term

612
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 2: necessarily because it's too hardcore, right, Yeah, and sometimes you

613
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 2: need that, Like we've talked about this a lot, Like

614
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 2: sometimes I'll do this a hard reset, Like I took

615
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 2: a full year off of drinking because I just was like,

616
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 2: I just need it out, and I didn't know if

617
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 2: I would ever start again. But now I drink again sometimes,

618
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 2: and I have such a different relationship with it, and

619
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 2: it just feels like I do it when it's fun

620
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 2: if I want to. I do it when it feels

621
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 2: good if I want to, and then I don't do

622
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 2: it a lot of times either, and so it's just

623
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 2: like I just have such a different relationship with it.

624
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 2: But I felt like I needed a hard reset, and

625
00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 2: I'm glad I did that. But then I don't think

626
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 2: everything has to be so extreme all the time, and

627
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,720
Speaker 2: I think you can kind of listen to your body

628
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 2: and honor your own intuition too, And so that keeps

629
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 2: me out of getting so perfectionistic that it's not sustainable

630
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 2: as well, you know, because I just feel like sometimes

631
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 2: I'm so militant, like literally like I'm all fun, this

632
00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 2: is when your.

633
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: Body's like I want taco bell, Well I want it again.

634
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: Your body doesn't do that, but mine does.

635
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 2: You Know what I would say to that is, what

636
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 2: are you really wanting? What is your body really wanting?

637
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 2: And like we talked about this on the podcast with

638
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 2: Marv because we were talking about habits, and they say,

639
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 2: often when you're trying to like quit a habit, I've

640
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 2: been doing this new meditation of habit breaking because there's

641
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 2: one that I'm trying to quit too, and it has

642
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 2: to do with my sleep because I watch shows at

643
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 2: night before bed. It's so not good for me. But

644
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 2: I have been doing this meditation and it's like affirmations

645
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 2: about habit quitting. But they say, if you focus on

646
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 2: don't do this, like don't eat taco bell, you just

647
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 2: had it, don't do it, You're gonna want to do

648
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 2: it more, right, yeah, whatever, So it's like focus on

649
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 2: the positive behavior that you're using to replace the taco bell,

650
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 2: Like if it's you are hungry and you want to

651
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 2: make something more healthy, like focus on how great you're

652
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 2: gonna make that meal, like what you're saying about focusing

653
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 2: on doing something well, or if you're not going to

654
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 2: eat because you're not hungry, focus on making a really

655
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 2: fucking great glass of water, you know, or like what's

656
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,719
Speaker 2: the behavior that you're going to replace that with and

657
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 2: put all of your energy and focus onto that, not

658
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 2: on you can't eat taco bell. I find that to

659
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 2: be really like works for me. And then because then

660
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 2: it also sometimes I'll just reflect on, Okay, why do

661
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 2: I want to put on bad reality TV right before

662
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 2: I go to bed? And most of the time, you

663
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 2: know what it is, I'm lonely because like my boyfriend

664
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 2: does that live here or something?

665
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, you want something, you need something mindless?

666
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm just like, but it's also it's like

667
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 2: background noise, and so it makes me not feel alone,

668
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 2: and I'm like, that just also means I'm disconnected from myself.

669
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 2: Because when I'm tapped into myself and connected with myself,

670
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 2: I can be in solitude and be great. Yeah, but

671
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 2: like if I'm disconnected, I need him around or like

672
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 2: and just get anxious at night. Night is like a

673
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 2: time of anxiety for me. It has been my whole life.

674
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 2: And then the second I swear to God, the second

675
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh are you lonely? Or oh are you

676
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 2: wanting to disconnect because you've oversone something today, And sometimes

677
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 2: I let myself do it. I'm not psycho, but like

678
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 2: what the second I say it, my body will go calm, peaceful,

679
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 2: like it just needs to be acknowledged or something. I

680
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 2: don't know. I don't really understand what that is. But

681
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 2: that's a big theme of this month, is just really

682
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 2: focusing on habits and perfectionism where it can get toxic.

683
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 2: But also I love what you said about Emma, like

684
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 2: really focusing on doing the things you're doing well right

685
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 2: and then kind of letting go of maybe the result

686
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 2: or the outcome after.

687
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's I think too. It's like there

688
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: is peace in that too, because there are times where

689
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: you lose the job that you really wanted and you

690
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: have to do something to make ends meet. You know,

691
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 1: it's like life, life's sometimes yeah, and in those moments

692
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: it's really hard to believe or remember that most things

693
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 1: are temporary. I mean life itself is temporary. It's a

694
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 1: long temporary. So if you find yourself in a position

695
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: that's work related, or you get broken up with or whatever,

696
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 1: like be really good at being single, you know, be

697
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: really good at the retail job that you have to

698
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 1: take to support your family or yourself or whatever it is,

699
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: because there is always something after that. Unless you sabotage yourself,

700
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 1: it's usually your own fault. If there isn't something that's

701
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,959
Speaker 1: you're probably not doing what you're doing very well. Yeah,

702
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: you shut down or you're looking for someone to blame

703
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:39,240
Speaker 1: other than just life.

704
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 2: So one of the other things happening this month is

705
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 2: the Pisc's eclipse, which we've talked a little bit about

706
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 2: Pisc's energy, but yeah, Pisces is very much healing, it's

707
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:56,120
Speaker 2: very much tapping into emotions. It can be very dreamy,

708
00:34:56,320 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 2: it's very sensitive as far as like what you're feeling,

709
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 2: what other people are feeling, all of those things. But

710
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 2: it also one of the shadow sides of Pisces is

711
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 2: it's driven by Neptune, which is the planet of illusion.

712
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 2: And so if you have heavy Pisce's energy in your chart,

713
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 2: often sometimes you're a big dreamer, you're very creative, and

714
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 2: you can be kind of fooled by some things in society,

715
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 2: which I think you and I have both dealt with.

716
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 2: And so one of the themes coming up in September

717
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:30,240
Speaker 2: with Pisces is just like kind of maybe the unraveling

718
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,719
Speaker 2: of some things that you thought were one thing and

719
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 2: maybe realizing there another. And so we were going to

720
00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 2: talk about it a little bit, because I think everyone

721
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 2: can relate to the fact or the point of thinking

722
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 2: somebody was something and then realizing they're totally something different,

723
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 2: and kind of like the bubble bursting. I always say

724
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 2: this about celebrities, like because of our jobs, like we

725
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 2: do get to meet a lot of famous people, and

726
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't There's certain ones I probably never

727
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 2: want to meet. And like Beyonce, I've always been like,

728
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 2: I just never want to meet her because I have

729
00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 2: her on such a pedestal of such a creative, such

730
00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 2: a hard worker. I also know about too much about

731
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 2: her chart though, and she's a Virgo, and like I

732
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 2: love Virgos in a lot of ways. But I'm like,

733
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 2: but she might not be what I want her to be.

734
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:21,840
Speaker 1: You know, she might get her to probably very sweet.

735
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,600
Speaker 2: But she's also very type and very but.

736
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 1: There's probably a shield around her.

737
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 2: Sure, and I would want to go deep, you know,

738
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 2: like tell me, let's talk about this song, and let's

739
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 2: talk about the breakup Alba or the Cheating album and

740
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 2: like she'd be like, no bit talking.

741
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: I just met you, right.

742
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 2: And I'm like, wait, why are we go get me

743
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 2: a coffee? I would totally do it. Well, have you

744
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 2: gone through that ever in your life? Though? Or is

745
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,359
Speaker 2: there you wouldn't want to meet?

746
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 1: Hm would not want to meet? I'm not sure that

747
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 1: there isn't. I mean, I just love people.

748
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 2: Don't need some of them. I just need to keep

749
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 2: on a pedestal of not human right.

750
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, But I look, I think to the overall,

751
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: like point of this conversation is even the people that

752
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 1: we do know that we see all the time, like

753
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: we are a human being. Like, I think it's really

754
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: important to remember that each and every one of us

755
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 1: are ever evolving or should be ever evolving. And you know,

756
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: change sometimes isn't obvious when it starts to happen. Sometimes

757
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 1: it takes a long time for change to become visible

758
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: to you. And when you know, maybe it's someone in

759
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,160
Speaker 1: your that you're in a relationship with, maybe it's a friend,

760
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: maybe it's a family member, and then you're like, what happened? You? Like,

761
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:48,919
Speaker 1: aren't who you thought? Who I thought you were? I mean, look,

762
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:52,919
Speaker 1: we have some former friends in common that just they

763
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,399
Speaker 1: turn out to be not who you thought they were.

764
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 1: And that doesn't mean that they weren't the person that

765
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 1: you thought they were while you thought they were, they

766
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: just evolved into something that you didn't like or like.

767
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:07,879
Speaker 1: And I run a stat a stat not that long

768
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: ago about friendships, and most friendships they're cyclical, like most

769
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: people are in your life for maybe five years and

770
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 1: they cycle out, you know, and but we still I

771
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: still think of those people as friends, but I'm not

772
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 1: like in touch with them.

773
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 2: Oh that's so interesting though, because I'm like still really

774
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 2: close to the people who were my best friends when

775
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 2: I was eight, like I have.

776
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 1: I'm still very close to a lot of those people too,

777
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: but I don't talk to them as much as I

778
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 1: talk to you and my current They're not in your

779
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: day to day right but I can pick up right

780
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 1: where we left off. But like, I don't know, I

781
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,839
Speaker 1: don't know. They're not my best friends like they were

782
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: because we're just different people, our situations are different. Like

783
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 1: I can talk more. I can talk more freely about

784
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: things that are happening in my life right now with

785
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 1: the people that are in my life right now because

786
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:59,839
Speaker 1: I don't have to explain everything. I mean, even when

787
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:01,880
Speaker 1: I I'm on the phone with my mom and dad,

788
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 1: like I leave out a lot of shit, not because

789
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 1: I'm trying to hide it from them, but because I

790
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,240
Speaker 1: don't want to have to explain to her who Reagan

791
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 1: is or who Sues is. That's Reagan's mom shout out

792
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 1: to Sues. But like it's just some of it is

793
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 1: just there's way too much detail, so I'm like I

794
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 1: just gloss over it, you know, And that's maybe not fair,

795
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: but it's also it's a product of like the amount

796
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: of time I get to talk to them or whatever

797
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 1: it is, and kind of going down a little bit

798
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: of a RABBITTI.

799
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 2: It makes sense to me though, because like having my

800
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 2: parents here has been so helpful for that exact reason.

801
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 2: They're more up to date on my life and we

802
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,359
Speaker 2: can just pay Like I remember when my mom used

803
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 2: to call, I'd be like, oh, I don't have two

804
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 2: hours right now, so I can't answer or something, and

805
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,200
Speaker 2: it's like now I know I'm going to be you

806
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 2: can go over for dinner, yes, And that just makes

807
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 2: it easier because I would try to find these big

808
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 2: blocks to talk and it's like who has that time anymore?

809
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 2: In this life, you know, but like it's because I

810
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 2: wanted to catch up on everything and then I didn't

811
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 2: and I would just be but then it would be

812
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:05,960
Speaker 2: two weeks before we talked, and then there would be

813
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 2: even more you need eight hours.

814
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, and luckily she listens to this so right, you know,

815
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 1: that keeps her a little shout out, Ronda, That keeps

816
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: her up to date a little bit too. Obviously, It's

817
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 1: like this isn't a completely personal, sort of vocal diary

818
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,799
Speaker 1: of your life, but she knows that you're into astrology.

819
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:30,439
Speaker 2: She definitely knows that. Yeah, but it is interesting as

820
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 2: you grow and evolve. I like this outlook that you

821
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 2: just gave though on friendships specifically, or realizing people in

822
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 2: our life or maybe a little bit different and you

823
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,399
Speaker 2: can kind of go in your different ways. But I'd

824
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 2: like honoring each other's journeys versus kind of being like,

825
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 2: well they suck or this is like you know, it

826
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 2: being an angry situation, I guess, is what I'm trying

827
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 2: to say, Like this big has to be this like

828
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 2: falling out. It's like, why can't we just honor that

829
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 2: everyone's on their own journey and sometimes the journeys take

830
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 2: us in differ directions, and that's actually a beautiful thing

831
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 2: because that means each person is being true to who

832
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,439
Speaker 2: they are and what their soul wants and what their

833
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 2: journey is. My problem used to be that like that

834
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 2: would start happening in my life. And again this is

835
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 2: something that's changed as I've gotten older, but like this

836
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 2: would happened to me in romantic relationships. I would get

837
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 2: in a relationship and it would be super great at first,

838
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 2: and then I would realize this person is not at

839
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 2: all what I thought.

840
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 1: That right You're like they were hot or.

841
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 2: Just like at the time, it seemed like, oh, this

842
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 2: is such a good fit. And then I would get

843
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 2: to fully know them and be like, no, it's not.

844
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 2: But I would want to change them.

845
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: Right well, because you also want to believe it works

846
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 1: when you when you feel those sparks in the beginning

847
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 1: of a relationship. And I don't think this is unique

848
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: to you. It's like we put you go into new

849
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: relationships with blinders on because you see the promise of

850
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 1: what it could be and then you find out you're

851
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:52,800
Speaker 1: not on the same page.

852
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I would be frustrated or mad about that,

853
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 2: and instead of being like we're just on different journeys

854
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:02,919
Speaker 2: and this doesn't work for me or whatever. It would

855
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 2: be like, okay, well if they could just do this,

856
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 2: or maybe if they go to therapy or like those

857
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 2: kind of things. And now I just hold everything a

858
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 2: lot more loosely and really try to. It's helped in

859
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 2: my current romantic relationship so much because I really honor

860
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,720
Speaker 2: where he is in his life and his own journeys.

861
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 2: I mean, he's in fucking Africa right now, and that's

862
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 2: not like ideal for me, but it's so what I

863
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 2: know his soul is supposed to be doing. Like he's

864
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 2: a filmmaker. He's making this documentary, and it's beautiful to

865
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 2: watch someone in their purpose, you know what I mean.

866
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 2: Like the way he lights up with this is like

867
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 2: nothing else in his life, and so I want to

868
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,399
Speaker 2: support that. But maybe when I was younger, that would

869
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 2: have been threatening to me or something, or I would

870
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 2: not have been able to understand why he would need

871
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 2: that time, you know, or because it would take away

872
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 2: from our relationship. That sounds really selfish, but you know,

873
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 2: when you're younger, you're immature.

874
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: Yeah that's scarier. I guess. Well, you also probably weren't

875
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:03,360
Speaker 1: open to not open relationships a long distance relationship, and

876
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 1: that's a new thing for you too, and that has created,

877
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 1: you know, a new set of skills for you within

878
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 1: relationships because any of that insecurity of not hearing from

879
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 1: someone or not seeing somebody for a few days like

880
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 1: that has to go up. You have to relinquish that

881
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 1: to make a long distance relationship work.

882
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 2: So well, we also really have to work on communication. Yeah,

883
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 2: so it's like this constant thing of us hearing each

884
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 2: other and it's been beautiful to experience. Actually, yeah, But

885
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:38,399
Speaker 2: I think my point, the bigger point was accepting who

886
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 2: him for who he truly is and what I know

887
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 2: he's here to do. And I'm sure it helps that

888
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 2: we're older when we're meeting, because we're both a little

889
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,399
Speaker 2: more settled in our lives and so we know who

890
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 2: we are more. And like, yeah, when you're honest with

891
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 2: yourself about that, you can communicate it to your partner.

892
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 2: But like, he and I are very different on a

893
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,799
Speaker 2: lot of levels, but like I so appreciate him for

894
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,080
Speaker 2: who he is and the differences that we have, and

895
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 2: like I learn from him, and I think it's the

896
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 2: same for him with me. You know, it's right. So

897
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 2: if you hold things a little more loosely like that

898
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 2: and not try to put your own definition of what

899
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 2: someone should be on someone else, I think the whole

900
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 2: illusion falling or whatever happens a little bit less, right right.

901
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well it also too, it's i mean, outside of

902
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 1: romantic relationships, it's the same thing for your boss, you know.

903
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: Or even as I've aged, I see my parents so

904
00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 1: differently because now I'm at an age where I can

905
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: remember when they were my age and they're not that

906
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:43,240
Speaker 1: different than I am. Like now they're just an older

907
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 1: version of me, and because I haven't been there, like

908
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 1: sometimes I'll get frustrated with them, but I'm sure I'm

909
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 1: just gonna be just a fuck like them, you know.

910
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,319
Speaker 1: And it's I mean, you know, my mom fell and

911
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 1: broke her neck and still went and partied, like of

912
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 1: course that's something that I would do, you know. It

913
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:05,399
Speaker 1: is that is me to a t, And so yeah,

914
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 1: I think it's like, I you know, I'm sure there

915
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: are moments in my life that I wish I could

916
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 1: go back to that exact moment moment and who I

917
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: was in that moment. But like, really I think about

918
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:20,279
Speaker 1: you know, everything that I've overcome and learned, and in

919
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 1: ways that I've shifted and changed and both like physically

920
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:29,279
Speaker 1: and mentally and geographically, like I've moved around a lot,

921
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:31,919
Speaker 1: and I think it's helped make me who I am.

922
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,400
Speaker 1: But it's certainly I'm sure there are people that are like,

923
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,919
Speaker 1: he's different, you know, like, oh yeah, but I think

924
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 1: that in my core, I'm not different.

925
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:44,240
Speaker 2: Like it's weird because I actually think you're so the same,

926
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 2: and because I think in your core you are like

927
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,320
Speaker 2: right from the day that I met you, I can't,

928
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 2: I don't and I actually love this about you, but

929
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 2: it will be in different groups of people and you're

930
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 2: always the same, like you're just who you are, you know,

931
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,919
Speaker 2: And I think that's a beautiful quality. But I think

932
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 2: that it's so interesting that people will be like, well,

933
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 2: he's changed, because it's like you've evolved and grown for

934
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 2: the better, which I do think some friends have said

935
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 2: to you recently, which I think is cool. But like

936
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 2: if I think that's when you know that people who

937
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 2: can go on the walk with you like that maybe

938
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:16,440
Speaker 2: could last more than the five years. It's like, are

939
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 2: they willing to accept a new version of you? If

940
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 2: it's serving you, like for the better, you know, and

941
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 2: and you grow together. That's a big one for all relationships.

942
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,480
Speaker 2: It's like I think, like when you hear about long

943
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 2: term marriages, the ones that I always talk to you

944
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 2: or hear about, is like they can grow together. They've

945
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 2: let each other's personalities die and be reborn a million times,

946
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,359
Speaker 2: and their relationship die and be reborn. And that is

947
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,560
Speaker 2: how like, that is how life works. We're never we

948
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 2: shouldn't be the same as we were in our twenties.

949
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 2: Like thank God. Everyone's always like I want to go

950
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 2: back to my twenties. I'm like, I do not.

951
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,440
Speaker 1: Like the only reason I would go back is to

952
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: do some things differently.

953
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 2: Oh I would do that, but or maybe I would

954
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 2: make different choices. But if you made different choices, you

955
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 2: wouldn't be where you are today. That is true too, No,

956
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 2: it's really I don't really I can't think about that.

957
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 2: Like everything that I've done in my life and every

958
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 2: relationship I've been in, whether it was great or terrible,

959
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 2: it has truly made me who I am today. Those

960
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 2: experiences so like they were worth it. Yeah, I don't know,

961
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:22,879
Speaker 2: And I think the version of myself that I am

962
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 2: now I like so much more than any of my

963
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:26,960
Speaker 2: past versions.

964
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's funny, it's it's it's contentment without it

965
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:36,399
Speaker 1: being complacent, because I do think it takes a long

966
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 1: time in life to really figure out who you are

967
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 1: and what you like and what you'll stand for and

968
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:46,000
Speaker 1: what you won't stand for. And that doesn't mean that

969
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 1: you get it right every day either, because there are

970
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 1: challenges that you can't anticipate. And but I know that

971
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 1: the version of myself now, I'm more articulate and open

972
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: and vulnerable. And I used to just like run from

973
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 1: problems and now I mean I'm much calculated is not

974
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 1: the word. I'm much more patient with myself when I

975
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,320
Speaker 1: have a problem, and I can, I like give myself

976
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,359
Speaker 1: the time to like think about it and look at

977
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 1: it and feel it and deal with it, and then

978
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 1: rather than running from it, which was my mo before,

979
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 1: I address it right. But what I'm but I've also

980
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,399
Speaker 1: learned that I'm not good at addressing a problem right

981
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 1: off the bat, Like I have to sit with things

982
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 1: so that I can understand why I'm feeling the way

983
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 1: that I'm feeling and look at it, and I try

984
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 1: I try to even look at things from other people's

985
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 1: perspectives too, when the problem involves other people. And and

986
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 1: maybe that has you know, maybe that came with moving

987
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,839
Speaker 1: into artist management, because it's such a different thing. Like, yes,

988
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 1: my job has very specific things, but I'm also like

989
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 1: a shrink and I have to think about you know,

990
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,399
Speaker 1: I don't manage a brand of toothpaste. I manage human

991
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: beings that have the same sort of issues that I do, right,

992
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:04,439
Speaker 1: and sometimes very different issues that you know. I don't

993
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 1: have children. I'm not an expert on shit like that.

994
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 1: But anyway, I think it's just age and time bringing

995
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 1: you to a place where I think every day you

996
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 1: become more and more and more content and accepting with

997
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 1: who you are, or more accepting of who you are.

998
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 1: And it's like you also recognize the things that you'll

999
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:28,720
Speaker 1: probably never be, you know, and accepting that. And that's fine.

1000
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 2: When you do that with yourself, you can do it

1001
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 2: with others too. And I think so kind of the

1002
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 2: energy of right now is just really kind of getting

1003
00:49:37,680 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 2: honest with ourselves about the perfectionist stuff, our daily routines,

1004
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 2: all of that, and then on the bigger scale of

1005
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 2: the pissy stuff, breaking down illusions and allowing space for

1006
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 2: each human to be who they are and not letting

1007
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:55,839
Speaker 2: it necessarily be a negative. Like it's kind of going

1008
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 2: into that more humanitarian like I want to help everyone,

1009
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 2: and also like only if they want it, like rightly

1010
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:07,439
Speaker 2: if people like just not forcing ourselves on anyone and

1011
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 2: forcing our projections, I guess is like on anyone and

1012
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 2: accepting people as they are, loving people and loving ourselves.

1013
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 2: You know, it always goes back to the same stuff

1014
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 2: if you really think about it, but the ways that

1015
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:22,839
Speaker 2: we get there are kind of different, and right now,

1016
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 2: I think a lot of the messages are around daily routines, habits,

1017
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 2: not going too far into perfectionism, but also like doing

1018
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:33,879
Speaker 2: things well and putting having some sort of esteem come

1019
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 2: from the things you're doing. And then always with the

1020
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 2: pissy stuff, it's just like fitting, like being yourself and

1021
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 2: then letting others be themselves too, and loving them despite

1022
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 2: their own humanity, and loving yourself despite your own humanity,

1023
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:50,280
Speaker 2: like all of that all.

1024
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 1: We need is love and look, and it's it's also

1025
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 1: important to remember it ain't always about you, you know

1026
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:59,560
Speaker 1: what I mean, It's just not so I think then

1027
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 1: it it makes it a lot easier, Yeah, like, you know,

1028
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,600
Speaker 1: like someone might yell at you or be rude or

1029
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 1: like do something that hurts you and often has nothing

1030
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 1: to do with you. Oh god, it has to do

1031
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 1: with them. And it's really hard to it's really hard

1032
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:19,359
Speaker 1: to like sit back and understand that sometimes because we

1033
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,879
Speaker 1: want to defend ourselves and our egos, step in and

1034
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 1: all of those things. But when someone does hurt you

1035
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 1: or something like that happens, like, rather than try to

1036
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 1: get retribution and take it out on them, just love

1037
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:34,319
Speaker 1: on yourself a little bit more because it's it is

1038
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 1: the most punk rock thing that you could do in

1039
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 1: the moment, rather than let whatever they did or said

1040
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:43,799
Speaker 1: about you be true. Because the truth is is they

1041
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 1: were going through something and you just happened to you.

1042
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 1: You were a casualty in whatever was going on in

1043
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 1: their life. Yeah, and it goes both. It goes towards

1044
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 1: love too. You know. It's like the more that you

1045
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 1: can love on yourself, the more that you're going to

1046
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:01,200
Speaker 1: be able to accept life when it's coming your way too.

1047
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 2: So sure you're saying that with a sign behind you,

1048
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 2: this is love yourself.

1049
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 1: Love yourself.

1050
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:07,759
Speaker 2: Forgot about we got this?

1051
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 1: Well?

1052
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 2: I love breaking these down with you, because I do

1053
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 2: think these are way more tangible as far as the

1054
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 2: astrology conversation goes, and kind of themes you guys can

1055
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 2: work with the energy of what's happening right now and

1056
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:23,840
Speaker 2: like maybe just paying attention like I like just the noticer,

1057
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 2: you know, like putting your noticer on, and if some

1058
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:28,800
Speaker 2: of these things are things that you're bumping up against,

1059
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 2: Like I just know how it works in my life.

1060
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 2: It's always when I'm when Marv is telling me the themes,

1061
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 2: I'm like, well that makes sense that this is happening

1062
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 2: or you know, it's just like once you actually know

1063
00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 2: the energy, you can kind of apply it to whatever

1064
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 2: you're going through and you know, take what you like

1065
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 2: and leave the rest. If it works for you, great.

1066
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 2: If you want to reach out to us, you know,

1067
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 2: always email us at the Edge at velvet sedge dot com.

1068
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:51,960
Speaker 2: I'm on Instagram at Velvet's Edge Chip.

1069
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 1: I'm at chipdorsh. It's chip d o r SCCH.

1070
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:01,439
Speaker 2: And you can follow us on our pot Instagram now

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Speaker 2: it's Velvet Edge Podcast. We're also on TikTok at Velvet Edge.

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Speaker 2: We're on YouTube at Velvet Edge. We're a whole around

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Speaker 2: the world. Basically, you can't get rid of us, so

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Speaker 2: go follow us. You can also just subscribe to this

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Speaker 2: podcast if you haven't done it yet. It really helps

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Speaker 2: us with getting pushed out there. So if you could subscribe, rate,

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Speaker 2: review all the things, we would really appreciate it. And

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Speaker 2: good got us a mouthful. As you guys go into

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Speaker 2: your weekend and you're living on the edge, I hope

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Speaker 2: you always remember too

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Speaker 1: A casual bye bye