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Speaker 5: Loco, the day Drub Jordan Plump, where we got so
Speaker 5: much to talk about. Tonight, Donald Trump is reaching across
Speaker 5: the prison yard aisle, the military gets half woke, and
Speaker 5: we'll tell you how New York's mayor.
Speaker 6: Stays smooth as a dolphin. But first let's get into
Speaker 6: another installment of the Second Coming of Donald J.
Speaker 2: Trump.
Speaker 7: I'm going to comedy.
Speaker 6: Donald Trump has been imposing a lot of tariffs since
Speaker 6: he took office, and if the nature and scope of
Speaker 6: these tariffs confuses you, don't worry.
Speaker 2: You're not the only one, Thank you, sir.
Speaker 8: Next, in twenty eighteen, you imposed oddolorum duties tariffs on
Speaker 8: imports of steel at a twenty five percent rate. Since
Speaker 8: that time, a large number of exclusions and exceptions to
Speaker 8: that tariff rule have been implemented because of the damage
Speaker 8: to the United States steel industry that those exceptions and
Speaker 8: exclusions have imposed. Were now this order would reimpose that
Speaker 8: twenty five percent oddlorum tariff rate on imports of steel,
Speaker 8: and it's presented for your signature.
Speaker 9: Now do you understand what that means?
Speaker 2: Do you understand what that means?
Speaker 6: I mean, why don't you tell me, President of the
Speaker 6: United States, what this means? Explain ad valorum to me
Speaker 6: like I was a child. This is Trump's own policy,
Speaker 6: and he's so bored by it. And you can tell
Speaker 6: because at one point he gets so bored he just
Speaker 6: starts peeking into a random folder on the desk. What's
Speaker 6: in here? Candy picture of boobs?
Speaker 7: What do we got?
Speaker 10: Oh?
Speaker 6: Oh, oh, just more falters? Why is this guy still talking?
Speaker 6: Trump's not the only one making moves. Yesterday there was
Speaker 6: a big announcement from Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth, Trump's
Speaker 6: top cabinet member if you go by blood alcohol level.
Speaker 6: Now Hegseith got the gig by promising to go to
Speaker 6: war against Woke, and yesterday he won another decisive battle.
Speaker 11: Defen Secretary Pete Heggsmith has renamed the Army Base for
Speaker 11: Liberty back to Fort Bragg. The previous day was changing
Speaker 11: remember to Fort Liberty. In twenty twenty three, as part
Speaker 11: of an effort to cut military honors bestowed on those
Speaker 11: who rebelled against the Union during the Civil War.
Speaker 12: There it is, I direct the Army to change the
Speaker 12: name of Fort Liberty, North Carolina to Fort Bragg, North Carolina.
Speaker 2: That's right, Brag, he's back. Yeah, suck it lives.
Speaker 6: Oh you didn't want this military base to honor a
Speaker 6: trader to America.
Speaker 2: Haha, too bad.
Speaker 6: Woke is dead and Confederate General Braxton Bragg is alive.
Speaker 11: But this time Bragg is not a reference to the
Speaker 11: Confederate general. The name now honors an enlisted Army soldier
Speaker 11: named Roland L. Bragg, which the Pentagon says was a
Speaker 11: word a silver star, purple heart for combat during World
Speaker 11: War Two.
Speaker 6: Okay, ooh, you renamed Fort Bragg after a different Brag. So,
Speaker 6: after all that bitching about not giving into woke history,
Speaker 6: you're basically admitting that we shouldn't name military bases after
Speaker 6: Confederate generals. Well, it's a good thing woke is over,
Speaker 6: because I think I can say this now.
Speaker 10: That's a pussy move, hexad.
Speaker 6: Just to be just to be totally clear, Roland Bragg
Speaker 6: is not a famous figure in military history. He's just
Speaker 6: someone who worked for this weird name switcheroo.
Speaker 7: Idea.
Speaker 6: Pete Hegsath basically said, find me a guy named Bragg
Speaker 6: who served in the army and didn't own slaves. I mean,
Speaker 6: he didn't even have a Wikipedia entry until today.
Speaker 2: Today today.
Speaker 6: Do you know how obscure you have to be to
Speaker 6: not even have a Wikipedia page. There's a Wikipedia page
Speaker 6: for cats that look like Hitler.
Speaker 2: Hegsad.
Speaker 6: Look, I'd say, either commit to honoring a Confederate general
Speaker 6: or don't. But trying to find some kind of name
Speaker 6: a loophole is just silly. I mean, why do I
Speaker 6: get the feeling Pete's going to try to pull this
Speaker 6: with his wife.
Speaker 2: Baby, Baby, I didn't cheat on you. Her name was
Speaker 2: also Susan. Okay, I'm restoring greatness to our marriage.
Speaker 6: Now with all this tariff imposing and fort renaming, you
Speaker 6: might be wondering, is there anyone who's benefiting from Trump's actions?
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 13: The breaking news President Trump's Justice Department moving to drop
Speaker 13: the federal corruption case against the New York City.
Speaker 14: Mayor Eric Adams.
Speaker 1: The mayor was accused of taking one hundred thousand dollars
Speaker 1: in free plane tickets and luxury hotel stays from wealthy
Speaker 1: Turkish nationals and at least one Turkish government official.
Speaker 6: Oh shit, if you're free tonight, head down to party
Speaker 6: at the Turkish Airlines lounge at JFK, because shit is
Speaker 6: about to be lit.
Speaker 7: You know what, you know what?
Speaker 6: I applaud Donald Trump for letting a blue city mayor
Speaker 6: off the hook. This sends a message Donald Trump is
Speaker 6: not about being a Democrat or a Republican. As long
Speaker 6: as you're criminally corrupt, you're his people. Now, I'm curious,
Speaker 6: I am curious. What was it about adams case that
Speaker 6: convinced Trump to drop the charges.
Speaker 15: As soon as Donald Trump was elected, Adams began a
Speaker 15: campaign for a reprieve, flying down to Florida to meet
Speaker 15: with Trump, driving overnight to attend Trump's inauguration, the Democratic
Speaker 15: mayor declining to criticize Trump.
Speaker 6: Oh god, Trump really loves getting his ass kissed, doesn't it.
Speaker 6: It's probably explains why all his suit pants have that
Speaker 6: little trap door on the butt, like old timing along underwear.
Speaker 6: Now to be said, not to be fair, the Justice
Speaker 6: Department didn't say they let Adams off because he kissed
Speaker 6: Trump's ass.
Speaker 2: They had an even dumber reason.
Speaker 15: The Justice Department memo said it reached this conclusion. Without
Speaker 15: assessing the strength of the evidence. So said the case
Speaker 15: needed to go so Adams could devote his full attention
Speaker 15: to Trump's immigration policies.
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, of course Trump didn't drop the charges so
Speaker 6: he could hold them over him for the rest of
Speaker 6: his term. Trump did it so Adams could focus on
Speaker 6: enforcing Trump's immigration policies. And now that Adams has the time,
Speaker 6: I'm sure he's bringing a new laser focus to the job.
Speaker 16: Mayor Adams has his plate full managing the day to
Speaker 16: day business of the city. Are you today, He's taking
Speaker 16: some time for some r and R Angela performed a
Speaker 16: ten minute laser hair removal procedure. Adams spoke with me
Speaker 16: exclusively during the process.
Speaker 9: When now I'm leable to come into the community and say, okay,
Speaker 9: we date this policy.
Speaker 4: We put these millions of dollars in.
Speaker 12: Now let's go see the results.
Speaker 6: You don't have to do an interview right now, I mean,
Speaker 6: I mean, should we go?
Speaker 2: This feels like a private moment for you.
Speaker 6: I mean, I thought I will more transparency in my government,
Speaker 6: but now I'm thinking perhaps some.
Speaker 2: Secrecy is for the best.
Speaker 6: So well, Eric Adams might waste his workday getting pampered
Speaker 6: at local businesses. We're doing the hard work to get
Speaker 6: to the bottom of this story, starting with our very
Speaker 6: own Grace Coolid Schmid.
Speaker 2: Grace, Grace. Yeah, what's the latest, Jordan?
Speaker 17: The Adams administration is happy to avoid federal charges, but
Speaker 17: it complicates his reelection campaign because Democrats may punish him
Speaker 17: for appearing to be under Trump's control.
Speaker 7: Excuse me?
Speaker 17: Can I get some more cucumber water, or even actually
Speaker 17: just some water? I'm a cucumber.
Speaker 2: I can don't.
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, Grace. Are you getting your hair done when
Speaker 6: you should be working?
Speaker 2: Jordan?
Speaker 17: When Sebastian has a chair open, you take the appointment?
Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, I guess it just doesn't seem very professional.
Speaker 17: How dare you? Sebastian is a complete professional? In fact,
Speaker 17: I can't believe you'd host this show without a fresh bolliage.
Speaker 6: I mean, I am due for bolliage. I mean, let's
Speaker 6: get more analysis now from Troy Iwana, Troy, come.
Speaker 2: On, I mean, come on, Troy, what's going on?
Speaker 10: Jordan?
Speaker 7: Eric Allens has promised to not be affected by the pardon,
Speaker 7: but that remains to be seen.
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, Troy, are you getting your teeth whitened.
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, you're supposed to be working. What's going on, Jordan.
Speaker 7: When doctor Bukatini has a chair open, you take the appointment.
Speaker 2: Is he really that good? Yes, she is. Women can
Speaker 2: white teeth too, You sexist?
Speaker 5: Okay, where is that ditsy bitch?
Speaker 6: Okay, forget it. Let's go to Michael Costa. Michael, look, okay, good, okay.
Speaker 6: I'm glad someone's taking this seriously. What's your take on
Speaker 6: the Adams situation.
Speaker 13: It's a disgrace, Jordan. I mean, what we have seen
Speaker 13: today is naked corruption, pure and simple, and the message
Speaker 13: it sends to the American public is that they cannot
Speaker 13: trust their leaders to have integrity. I'm sorry to say
Speaker 13: that tonight. I pray for the future of our republic.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, Jordan.
Speaker 6: Michael, can you please not get your ans wax during
Speaker 6: your report?
Speaker 13: Hey, when doctor bukatin he hasn't open it, you take
Speaker 13: the appointment.
Speaker 2: Wait?
Speaker 6: Is she the same Bucatini who does the teeth whitening.
Speaker 13: Yes, Jordan, women who whitened teeth can wax anuses at
Speaker 13: the same time too.
Speaker 2: Your sexist.
Speaker 13: And for the record, Jordan, this is technically work because
Speaker 13: we're putting all of this on the Daily Show credit card.
Speaker 6: No, now, you can't put your spa services on the
Speaker 6: show's credit card.
Speaker 2: That's embezzlement. Michael, that's a felony.
Speaker 7: It's not a felony. We're working.
Speaker 13: When it comes to my job, I am the utmost professional.
Speaker 7: Whoo and Hey, if it.
Speaker 13: Is a felony, then I just make a trip tomorrow
Speaker 13: Lago and I tell the gracious Donald Trump to pardon
Speaker 13: me with his enormous penis.
Speaker 17: Hey, yeah, me too. I would like some penis mercy,
Speaker 17: mister President.
Speaker 16: Yay Pena Murphy, Grace, Troy.
Speaker 10: And Michael.
Speaker 2: Everyone got time. Don't want your fu We'll come back
Speaker 2: for decide who won.
Speaker 7: The Super Bowl?
Speaker 10: Stick around.
Speaker 2: On the back of the Daily Show.
Speaker 6: I think I speak for everyone when I say politics, drools,
Speaker 6: and sports rules. For a full recap of the biggest
Speaker 6: stories in the world of jocks and straps, we turned
Speaker 6: to Sports.
Speaker 3: Warred for it's time for.
Speaker 7: Not too god cared.
Speaker 4: It's the Super Bowl oolitics.
Speaker 2: Ronnie che I'm Jordan Clapper.
Speaker 6: This is Sports war the show where we are legally
Speaker 6: not allowed to agree.
Speaker 10: With each other.
Speaker 12: So if I say the Super Bowl should have fuel commercials,
Speaker 12: and I say all the players should be dressed like
Speaker 12: Flow from Progressive. Oh, come on, no one wants to
Speaker 12: see Travis Kelcey.
Speaker 6: In an apron Yeah, tell that to my poorn up
Speaker 6: search history Ronnie. Now, Sunday officially marked the end of
Speaker 6: the football season. We left, We cried, Ronnie tried to
Speaker 6: kiss me after every touchdown.
Speaker 2: Now we crowned.
Speaker 6: The Philadelphia Eagles are new champions utter domination.
Speaker 13: There is no other way to describe what the Eagles
Speaker 13: did to the Chiefs.
Speaker 7: Talk about them blowout who.
Speaker 2: The most boring game you could expect.
Speaker 1: I mean some people might have gotten to bed because
Speaker 1: they turned.
Speaker 2: It was an old school clunker. That was the worst
Speaker 2: super Bowl in history.
Speaker 6: The Eagles dominated the entire evening and just like Ronnie
Speaker 6: after eating dairy, the Chiefs shit the bed. You know what,
Speaker 6: I think I speak for everyone when I say no
Speaker 6: more Super Bowls.
Speaker 2: NFL, you had a good run.
Speaker 6: You ended racism, cured breast cancer, and found a woman
Speaker 6: under thirty who wants to see Bill Belichick.
Speaker 12: Nate Jordan, have you been doing ayahuasca of Aaron Rodgers again? Okay,
Speaker 12: we can't cancel the Super Bowl. It's the only thing
Speaker 12: keeping ground from going throughout garbage at night. Plus, I
Speaker 12: don't know about you, but this was the best Super
Speaker 12: Bowl of my life. I mean yeah, it had touchdowns,
Speaker 12: Tom Brady's new face, Seal as a seal, and Jordan
Speaker 12: losing an ass ton of money betting on the Chiefs.
Speaker 2: I mean, what happened to my homes?
Speaker 6: You look like Ronnie out there, completely lost with the
Speaker 6: terrible haircuts.
Speaker 2: The Chiefs were my ticket out.
Speaker 6: Of this hell hole. And now I owe a lot
Speaker 6: of money to a very very bad man.
Speaker 12: Which brings us to my Jordan owes me a lot
Speaker 12: of money better than nights. Which big Italian man will
Speaker 12: I send to Jordan's house? Tonight has always brought to
Speaker 12: you by gambling. Gambling, you have two kidneys for a reason.
Speaker 6: Now, well, Philly dominated the Big Game, it's important to
Speaker 6: remember the Chiefs weren't the only ones getting dragged all
Speaker 6: over the field.
Speaker 3: On Sunday for thirteen minute Kendrick Lamar provided the world
Speaker 3: with a halftime show.
Speaker 2: That stayed true to himself.
Speaker 3: Just as we thought it might not happen, Kendrick took
Speaker 3: the elephant in the room for a walk around the Superdome, King,
Speaker 3: Kendrick went hard leading the stadium in his accusatory taunt.
Speaker 12: You tire struck a Cour's.
Speaker 2: The knockout blow in his public battle with Drake.
Speaker 6: I've had it with these motherfucking Drake's on this motherfucking plane. Hey, Kendrick,
Speaker 6: the world's on fire, the President's in the stands, and
Speaker 6: you're using the biggest stage on the planet to go
Speaker 6: after Drake again.
Speaker 2: We get it. You don't like him.
Speaker 6: Save your petty beef for the group chat. Like Rodney's
Speaker 6: fake accent. You're overdoing it all right.
Speaker 12: Well, I disagree with you, Jordan, because, unlike you, I
Speaker 12: love black people and I thought Kendrick's performance was incredible.
Speaker 12: I mean, he proved I've been saying for decades the
Speaker 12: half time show should always be about petty grievances. I mean,
Speaker 12: next year, I want to see Blake Lively and Justin
Speaker 12: Baldoni jousting to the death, presented by gambling.
Speaker 7: Of course, gambling.
Speaker 2: Unlike Drake, you can come back from this.
Speaker 6: Finally, let's not forget about a huge update rocking in
Speaker 6: the world of gambling.
Speaker 14: The former interpreter of Dodgers Star show, Hey Otani, was
Speaker 14: sentenced today to nearly five years in prison in a
Speaker 14: sports betting case that made world headlines. Ip Mizuhara pled
Speaker 14: guilty last year after impersonating Otani in a.
Speaker 2: Bid to steal millions.
Speaker 14: To cover his gambling bets and debts.
Speaker 12: Asian represented, we shouldn't be sending show heyes interpreting to jail.
Speaker 12: We should be giving him a medal. I mean you
Speaker 12: think show he has talent. It takes real skill to
Speaker 12: steal money from someone you work with, especially when you
Speaker 12: have to guess that mother's made a name. What is it,
Speaker 12: Jordan a Pikowski? Is that with a K?
Speaker 2: It's with a C?
Speaker 6: You dipshit and you keep my brother's made in am
Speaker 6: out of your mouth. Say, this is my point. Gambling
Speaker 6: shouldn't be about hurting the people closest to you. Whatever
Speaker 6: happened to doing it the old fashioned way making.
Speaker 2: Dogs fight each other.
Speaker 6: As someone who had their identity stolen by a certain
Speaker 6: Japanese coworker, this is a disgrace.
Speaker 12: Well, I know you can't be talking about me because
Speaker 12: I'm Malaysian.
Speaker 6: Oh, stop making up new types of Asians. It's offensive,
Speaker 6: which brings us to my Jordan's big dinger better than nights,
Speaker 6: which Malaysian celebrity will go to jail next for Otani's
Speaker 6: gambling has always brought to you by gambling. Gambling got
Speaker 6: Pete Rosey to heaven?
Speaker 2: Why not you? Well, that's all the time we have
Speaker 2: for sports war.
Speaker 6: Join us next week when we debate whether the NFL
Speaker 6: should expand to a fifty two game season.
Speaker 12: Fifty two, it should be at least one hundred and
Speaker 12: four that we have no time to get injured in
Speaker 12: between games.
Speaker 2: Who makes the most? That's what you need? You need
Speaker 2: more games. Welcome back to the Daily Show.
Speaker 6: My guest today is an Academy Award nominated actor who wrote, directed,
Speaker 6: and stars in the Oscar nominated film A Real Pain
Speaker 6: Is Welcome.
Speaker 10: Jesse Eisenberg. Beloved Jesse.
Speaker 7: This is what my life is like now, is no no, no, no, Just.
Speaker 6: Walk down the streets of New York and people just
Speaker 6: erupt in cheers.
Speaker 7: Well they're standing already where he passed on the stead. Yeah,
Speaker 7: but they will start clapping.
Speaker 6: That's respect, right, Ye what a career in the arts
Speaker 6: gets you In America?
Speaker 7: Almost no one sits down when I passed them on
Speaker 7: the street. Yeah, bless you.
Speaker 2: The movie is great.
Speaker 6: Thank you were you thinking like, oh, were you thinking
Speaker 6: I'm gonna do a Holocaust film but with humor? You're like,
Speaker 6: oh that trope again?
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, exactly, another hysterical Holocaust we go. No, I was,
Speaker 7: I was thinking the exact I mean, I was thinking, like,
Speaker 7: really like, if I'm going to do a movie about
Speaker 7: like this theme, and it's something that's on my mind
Speaker 7: all the time, as you know, third generation American Jew
Speaker 7: from Poland. You know, I wanted to just make something
Speaker 7: that felt like something I'd not seen before, something like
Speaker 7: not sanctimonious or academic. There are a lot of you know,
Speaker 7: Holocaust movies that give you the sense that like like
Speaker 7: they're punishing you for being in the audience and not
Speaker 7: being brave enough to be in this film, right, you
Speaker 7: know I didn't want to do that.
Speaker 6: Well, this film really it dissects grief, right, and how
Speaker 6: we deal with grief, how we internalize it. Yeah, but
Speaker 6: it also places grief next to historical grief.
Speaker 7: Exactly.
Speaker 6: Is that something that you were grappling with early on
Speaker 6: and like the writing process, is that sort of the
Speaker 6: nugget you wanted to unpack?
Speaker 7: This is the nugget I've been trying to unpack for
Speaker 7: like twenty years. Like once I learned about my family
Speaker 7: is like history. I just became so aware of like
Speaker 7: my own good fortune but also my own misery compared
Speaker 7: to their horrible fortune and the way they appreciate the world,
Speaker 7: and like I just couldn't reconcile, like why am I miserable?
Speaker 7: My life is so like fundamentally safe and fine, and
Speaker 7: why did they seem happier than me when they suffered?
Speaker 7: And I still can't figure it out, but I suppose
Speaker 7: it comes from like a some lack of meaning in
Speaker 7: my life. And so that's kind of what the script
Speaker 7: came out of it.
Speaker 6: And so after going through this process, you still have
Speaker 6: that lack of meaning and clarity.
Speaker 7: For some reason, the lack has gone deeper.
Speaker 2: Wow yeah right, yes, just like a worthless pursuit.
Speaker 7: It's even worse because like now I mean and I
Speaker 7: thank you so much for like clapping everything, but like
Speaker 7: because I'm like but a waste of time, but a
Speaker 7: total no no no no no, but like but like
Speaker 7: being like celebrated for something where I was trying to
Speaker 7: like find like meaning in my good life and now
Speaker 7: my life got like let's say three or four percent
Speaker 7: better because the movie people like it. Now I don't
Speaker 7: even know what to do.
Speaker 2: Yes, So are you happier?
Speaker 7: No, that's what I'm saying now, it's not even a
Speaker 7: three percent happier No. No, because the abyss got bigger
Speaker 7: and so now I'm just I think more confused.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 6: Is that what your next film movie about? Like ambition
Speaker 6: and the emptiness there and the confusion you have?
Speaker 7: Exactly exactly exactly it's called the Abyss.
Speaker 2: The Abyss.
Speaker 10: Yeah, oh, I got I got bad news for you.
Speaker 2: That movie might exist.
Speaker 7: Does it really?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Then I'm not gonna make it. I'll make something else, ye,
Speaker 7: completely different. I really I love this.
Speaker 6: I want to talk about a scene I don't I
Speaker 6: don't think it's a spoiler. There's a scene in this
Speaker 6: movie where Kieran Culkin is a complicated, difficult person and
Speaker 6: he says goodbye to the tour guide after some time
Speaker 6: with this tour guide, and there's this beautiful scene where
Speaker 6: the tour guide sort of explains to him what how
Speaker 6: meaningful he was even though he was so difficult, and
Speaker 6: then he says goodbye to you in a heartbeat of
Speaker 6: walks away and we left. It was the theater everybody laughed.
Speaker 6: It's a very funny moment. And I talked with my
Speaker 6: wife about this afterwards. I was like, who do I
Speaker 6: want to be in this moment? Like, I'm curious that
Speaker 6: there is this character who is it was complicated but
Speaker 6: consequential and in a lot of pain, right, and this
Speaker 6: other character who lacks consequence in other people's lives but
Speaker 6: in some ways less pain.
Speaker 2: It's stable, It's somewhat stable.
Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly when you are writing that and working through that,
Speaker 6: like where do you protect yourself in?
Speaker 2: Who should I be in that situation?
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's my big question. I mean, like I my
Speaker 7: character and also me, Jesse, I'm so envious and jealous
Speaker 7: of people like Kuran's character who kind of walks in
Speaker 7: late to a room, but somehow everybody loves him. And
Speaker 7: I get there early and I'm helping setting up the
Speaker 7: chairs and everybody's kind of annoyed that I'm like, you know,
Speaker 7: and like and for just some reason, the world loves
Speaker 7: that person and doesn't like me, And a lot of
Speaker 7: that just has to do with that that person seems
Speaker 7: like real, you know, And so I think about people
Speaker 7: all the time like that, and I think, like I'm
Speaker 7: so envious. I wish I could light up a room
Speaker 7: like that. But then I get home to my relatively
Speaker 7: stable life and I wonder, like what those people are
Speaker 7: doing now, like what happens when the music turns off
Speaker 7: and what are they left with when they're alone? And
Speaker 7: it makes my envy turn into something like sympathy, you know,
Speaker 7: And that's kind of what this movie is.
Speaker 18: Like.
Speaker 7: You're kind of annoyed by this character that Kieran plays,
Speaker 7: but by the end hopefully kind of like broken hearted
Speaker 7: about who this person is and what they have to
Speaker 7: deal with when they're alone.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 6: No, I mean when you originally were conceiving this, you
Speaker 6: imagine yourself playing the other character.
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, And so.
Speaker 6: You find yourself flipped and playing this character. How would
Speaker 6: this movie be different if you had flipped?
Speaker 2: Would you be happier?
Speaker 7: Whatever? Money?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Yes, you know it's so funny. Yes, I'm delusional. I
Speaker 7: just did this movie. Now you see me three okay,
Speaker 7: and it's like a big that's right and no, but
Speaker 7: like so the movie's like a big Hollywood movie and everything.
Speaker 7: But I play this very confident like magician, and I'm
Speaker 7: incredibly confident performer in the movie. And I end every
Speaker 7: day on those sets going I did great, and I
Speaker 7: never I never have that feeling on sets ever. But
Speaker 7: because my character's so confident, I'm standing in a different way.
Speaker 7: My face is doing different things that are tricking my
Speaker 7: brain into thinking it's really happy and it's like the
Speaker 7: most amazing thing. So in this movie, yeah, I kind
Speaker 7: of felt like diminished at the end of every day
Speaker 7: because Kieran's characters like diminishing me.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but you're also wearing you're director, writer and actor. There, yes,
Speaker 6: you feel like somebody who's thinking through every moment.
Speaker 7: I am, but you know, Kieran I was like technically
Speaker 7: his boss. But because the nature of our characters in
Speaker 7: the movie where he's like constantly condescending to me and
Speaker 7: making fun of me, he would do that like in
Speaker 7: between takes. Yeah, And so I did not have one
Speaker 7: feeling on the set one day of feeling like in
Speaker 7: control or like he was constantly just like so he'd
Speaker 7: be kind of mean to me in a take and
Speaker 7: then we'd call cut and then he's like, what stupid
Speaker 7: show are you gonna do now? And so like I
Speaker 7: had no experience of feeling you know, I guess good
Speaker 7: and do.
Speaker 6: You see that as like part of his genius or
Speaker 6: is he just sort of being a dick to you
Speaker 6: and unprofessional?
Speaker 7: I truthfully don't know. He came to the set a
Speaker 7: day before shooting. He was like, gave this unbelievable performance.
Speaker 7: I don't know if he read the script before he
Speaker 7: got to Poland, Like before shooting, he sleeps like two
Speaker 7: hours a night. He was walking around Poland all night.
Speaker 7: I don't know. We got to call that his mattress
Speaker 7: was on the floor, Like he's so unusual and so brilliant,
Speaker 7: and so it was so great. So I just didn't
Speaker 7: want to tell him, like, hey, could you be nice?
Speaker 7: Because he was so great.
Speaker 2: In the movie.
Speaker 7: He's nice, he's nice, He's a lovely, lovely person. But
Speaker 7: this dynamic we had was so all encompassing that I
Speaker 7: didn't know how to separate out what was like the
Speaker 7: character and what was him or what was I doing?
Speaker 7: Maybe I was also being self deprecating in a punishing
Speaker 7: way because I was playing my role. I don't know,
Speaker 7: are you open?
Speaker 2: Is there improv in a process like this?
Speaker 6: Does it start with open space to like find and
Speaker 6: discover as somebody who wrote this and sat with us
Speaker 6: for quite some time.
Speaker 7: No, I mean I don't like impress. You know, I'm
Speaker 7: not gonna come up with something like funny you know
Speaker 7: on the set, you know, So I mean maybe, but
Speaker 7: it's like, you know, it's always like last minute jokes
Speaker 7: that people improvise about spaghetti, you know, something stupid.
Speaker 6: But like, as somebody who spent thirty years of my
Speaker 6: life doing an improv I want to tell you that
Speaker 6: is spot off.
Speaker 7: No, no, you weren't doing a Holocaust movie, you know
Speaker 7: what I mean.
Speaker 6: Well, we got some you know, we got some pretty
Speaker 6: risky suggestions back in the day.
Speaker 10: Yeah, give us a location.
Speaker 2: Okay, maybe a new location.
Speaker 7: Yeah exactly. Okay, well no, so but.
Speaker 6: This feels like Kieran is a if not an improviser,
Speaker 6: is loose in his performance style.
Speaker 7: He's loose, but like he you know, you know, he
Speaker 7: wouldn't stand on a mark I gave him. So I
Speaker 7: had spent like, you know, three months in Poland with
Speaker 7: my amazing Polish cinematographer, you know, blocking out the shots
Speaker 7: and shot listing, and you have an idea of you know,
Speaker 7: all of the you know, this character standing here because
Speaker 7: the tree is on their left, which represents the you know,
Speaker 7: lack of roots in their life whatever, and you know,
Speaker 7: and Kieran's like, I'm not going to stand anywhere near there,
Speaker 7: And I'm like where you going to stand? And he
Speaker 7: was like, I don't know, let's shoot it, see what happens.
Speaker 7: So like, but he was so good, he's so brilliant.
Speaker 7: You just said, okay, yeah, let's just follow him. And
Speaker 7: I can't make this great rootless metaphor anymore.
Speaker 6: You film in a concentration camp, yeah, in Poland? Yeah,
Speaker 6: what is that process?
Speaker 7: Like, it took a long time to get access, Like
Speaker 7: they these concentration camps are museums and cemeteries, you know,
Speaker 7: so they're not they don't want movies shooting there because
Speaker 7: most movies want to turn them into like, you know,
Speaker 7: nineteen forty two war movies where they have extras and
Speaker 7: Nazi uniforms. But you know, what we did is it's
Speaker 7: a modern day Holocaust toury. That's what the movie is.
Speaker 7: And so it took a long time to try to
Speaker 7: like explain to them what we were doing and show
Speaker 7: that we actually had the same mission. Like their mission
Speaker 7: is to show kind of modern tourists what these places are,
Speaker 7: and my mission in a roundabout way is to show
Speaker 7: modern movie audiences what these places are. So once we
Speaker 7: like figured that we had a meeting of the minds,
Speaker 7: it turned into this like amazing, beautiful relationship. And I
Speaker 7: also have to say, like the people who run these
Speaker 7: concentration camps, like they're not Jewish. They're like young academics
Speaker 7: who could do like any job that they want in Poland.
Speaker 7: They're like brilliant, highly educated people. And these are the
Speaker 7: people that like choose to spend their lives like driving
Speaker 7: every day to like a concentration camp and eat lunch
Speaker 7: at a concentration camp because they believe that they're doing
Speaker 7: good work, which they are. And I just felt like,
Speaker 7: as an American Jew who like never thinks to memorialize
Speaker 7: my family history, I just had such indebtedness to these
Speaker 7: people who are doing it for no other reason than
Speaker 7: like the good of their hearts.
Speaker 6: Oh, this film is very thoughtful, a lot of very
Speaker 6: deliberate choices. One choice I was curious about you throughout
Speaker 6: the film, are wearing a shirt that you button one
Speaker 6: button that's right, not on the top, but the second button,
Speaker 6: and none of the bottom buttons beyond.
Speaker 7: That that's right?
Speaker 2: What is that choice?
Speaker 7: All about listen Jordan, if that's not obvious. No, well,
Speaker 7: my character talks about like OCD in the movie, and
Speaker 7: it's like, you know, I know what that is. And
Speaker 7: you know sometimes like you know, that is like more
Speaker 7: of like a fixation rather than like a fashion choice.
Speaker 7: So my character is not like a fashionable kind of person,
Speaker 7: but this is like a fixation kind of thing from
Speaker 7: his OCD.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so that's why.
Speaker 2: Now I should have known it.
Speaker 7: I should have known it, you know, pretty much everybody
Speaker 7: else who saw movie.
Speaker 2: Like I know, I know I need to watch these
Speaker 2: things closer.
Speaker 6: You've sat in this movie, You've you've created this film.
Speaker 6: It's now out in the world. People really enjoy it
Speaker 6: so much so that you have Academy Award nominations.
Speaker 7: Thank you so much.
Speaker 6: With that comes promotion for Academy Award nominations. You're on
Speaker 6: shows like this, You're doing all of this publicity tour.
Speaker 6: How does that sit with someone like you? Do you
Speaker 6: like doing publicity for a movie like this?
Speaker 7: Well, I've been I've been wanting to do this show
Speaker 7: for twenty something years. I mean, yeah, so this is amazing.
Speaker 6: And and does does being here with me make you
Speaker 6: just a little bit happier.
Speaker 7: This is amazing, like it's stuff like this is totally surreal.
Speaker 7: It really is. And like, yeah, that's been I on,
Speaker 7: like Terry gross Las speak and I didn't. I don't
Speaker 7: think on.
Speaker 2: This stick on this one stick.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I know. But and I was telling her
Speaker 7: this is terrible compared to the daily shower, and she said,
Speaker 7: I get it. She gets it, right, she gets it.
Speaker 7: And she said I might actually quit. So I didn't
Speaker 7: want to announce that here, but she's quitting because of
Speaker 7: the show.
Speaker 2: Yes, hang it up, Terry.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, it's a truly it's a truly remarkable film,
Speaker 6: and it is it feels like an adult film about
Speaker 6: grief that has so many entrance points for people who
Speaker 6: who are sitting with these these conversations in their own hands.
Speaker 6: So thank you for for making that.
Speaker 7: Thank you so much. What an honor to be here.
Speaker 2: A real pain is in theater. That's the eyes of God.
Speaker 10: I'm gonna tell you this right right, right back up.
Speaker 7: Thank you so much.
Speaker 19: That's a show for the night.
Speaker 2: It is your moment.
Speaker 18: Then I've been told I have thirty seconds, so I
Speaker 18: am going to tell you that we do have to.
Speaker 18: I don't swear in public very well, but we have
Speaker 18: to Trump.
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