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Speaker 2: Play of the day, stat of the day, All of
Speaker 2: that forthcoming, no super Bowl fallout when you think about it.
Speaker 2: If you go back ten years ago, five days talking
Speaker 2: about Malcolm Butler's interception against Russell Wilson, we talked about
Speaker 2: that play that was called the end of that Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: What was at stake? Russ was going to win another one,
Speaker 2: Pete Carroll another super Bowl. Tom was going to be
Speaker 2: denied a Super Bowl. We spent five days on that.
Speaker 2: There's no real fallout because there was no real contest.
Speaker 2: There was nothing really to talk about other than, okay,
Speaker 2: the Eagles can they repeat? They're going to lose a
Speaker 2: couple of defensive players. They lost Kellen Moore. He's now
Speaker 2: the Saints head coach with the Chiefs. I guess there's
Speaker 2: you know, there's at least discussion points because you're talking
Speaker 2: about that offensive line again like we did a couple
Speaker 2: of years ago against Tampa Bay. And then you have
Speaker 2: Travis Kelsey. Is Kelsey going to be back? Will they
Speaker 2: go out and make it? But Tyreek Hill once out
Speaker 2: of Miami or maybe still wants to be in Miami,
Speaker 2: do they bring Tyreek Hill back?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: But what's Kansas City doing in the off season. They
Speaker 2: always seem to do the right thing in the off season,
Speaker 2: plug and play. But that's about it when you think
Speaker 2: about it. The Super Bowl is over. It was over
Speaker 2: before it was over. It was over at halftime, it
Speaker 2: felt like, and it just doesn't feel like there's any
Speaker 2: real discussion points there with them moving forward. You know,
Speaker 2: maybe a little bit. Now I'm going to play executive
Speaker 2: at ESPN. If I was going into the Sports Center
Speaker 2: Rundown meeting, and I would say, okay, now, once again,
Speaker 2: I'm doing this for ESPN, and how ESPN does it.
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts elite quarterback? Is the top five quarterback? Now
Speaker 2: that would be a topic that we would have. Should
Speaker 2: Travis kelce retire? Where does the Eagles defense rank among
Speaker 2: all the great defenses of all time? Once again, I'm
Speaker 2: trying to get bullet points where if you're flipping through
Speaker 2: the channels, you'll go Jalen Hurts elite quarterback question mark,
Speaker 2: you might stop Eagles defense best Super Bowl defense of
Speaker 2: all time? Question mark? You'll stop there. Should Travis Kelcey retire?
Speaker 2: Question mark? That's how it works when you go into
Speaker 2: the meetings, Sports Center meetings or First Take or any
Speaker 2: of these other shows. It's like, all right, what is
Speaker 2: going to be a great bullet point you put on
Speaker 2: the screen? People might not have the sound up and
Speaker 2: they'll be flipping through and then they'll stop on them.
Speaker 2: And I get that. I mean, we're trying to come
Speaker 2: up with topics that are legitimate. And I did hear
Speaker 2: yesterday that people were talking about Jalen Hursty is the
Speaker 2: elite quarterback.
Speaker 4: I don't even know what that means. I think he's
Speaker 4: a winner.
Speaker 2: I don't know if he's an elite quarterback because during
Speaker 2: the regular season we really don't talk about him, but
Speaker 2: we have talked about him in both of these super
Speaker 2: Bowls and these postseasons, and he played great. Absolutely, But
Speaker 2: I think elite is kind of a tricky word a designation.
Speaker 2: You know, remember we were trying to say. People were like,
Speaker 2: is Eli an elite quarterback?
Speaker 4: He's not. He's not an elite quarterback.
Speaker 2: He had two elite performances, but that doesn't make you
Speaker 2: an elite quarterback. Elite quarterback is week in and week out,
Speaker 2: and how many of those are Joe Burrow is elite.
Speaker 2: Patrick Mahomes is elite, Josh Allen elite. That might be it,
Speaker 2: like truly elite Lamar Jackson. Yeah, so those four, But
Speaker 2: that would be my conversation if I was bringing that up,
Speaker 2: proposing a topic, I would say, is you know Jalen
Speaker 2: Hurts an elite quarterback? Because then you get that discussion
Speaker 2: is he better than Justin Herbert? You know, throw in
Speaker 2: a couple other and you get to mention Dak Prescott
Speaker 2: at some point there and Presto chaninjoh You've got a
Speaker 2: segment there on the mother Ship.
Speaker 5: Yes, Pauline, I was thinking about Hurts and with what
Speaker 5: you're saying about elite, I think his numbers will prevent
Speaker 5: him from being considered a regular season elite guy. He's
Speaker 5: got to throw for, you know, thirty three hundred yards
Speaker 5: and twenty two touchdowns every year. He's not gonna lead
Speaker 5: the league in any category. This is an old school
Speaker 5: player comp. But this is very old school. Roger Staubach
Speaker 5: years ago was fantastic. He was a winner, but he
Speaker 5: ran and passed and never led the league in a
Speaker 5: lot of categories. But he just played well and was
Speaker 5: a leader. And I think that might be the player comp.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're just not everybody's elite.
Speaker 2: I you know, once again, if you're an elite quarterback,
Speaker 2: is the defense going to force you to beat them?
Speaker 2: And I would say no. Defenses were probably saying to
Speaker 2: Eli Manning and let's see if you can beat us.
Speaker 2: And he did beat the Patriots twice, but that was
Speaker 2: a defense that didn't want, say one Barkley to beat them,
Speaker 2: not no Jalen Hurts. But Hurts did produce, he did
Speaker 2: play extremely well. But do I think he's an elite quarterback? No,
Speaker 2: the defense that defen what we saw that was you know,
Speaker 2: there's always recency bias. I just remember when the Bears
Speaker 2: played the Patriots, and maybe that's not a good comparison
Speaker 2: in that same building many many, many years ago. I mean,
Speaker 2: that wasn't fair. That was not fair. The Ravens against
Speaker 2: the Giants, that was not fair. The Steelers when they
Speaker 2: played the Vikings back in whatever Super Bowl five or
Speaker 2: whatever it was six, that wasn't fair.
Speaker 4: Like, there's certain performances by defense where you go, goy,
Speaker 4: this is this is bad. They should stop this fight. Yes, Marv.
Speaker 6: Do you think Jalen Hurts is more of the Russell
Speaker 6: Wilson type where he probably might not get all the
Speaker 6: credit for a Super Bowl win, but he was really
Speaker 6: good in that Super Bowl.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think that's a great comp there, because Russ in
Speaker 2: that Super Bowl they lost against the Patriots, he was unstoppable.
Speaker 2: The Patriots truly did not have an answer for him
Speaker 2: until that pass play. Because other than that, he going
Speaker 2: to win a super Bowl and he's going to be
Speaker 2: the MVP. He's gonna have two super Bowls on his resume.
Speaker 2: But watching that game on the field, you could see
Speaker 2: there was absolute disarray and frustration with the Patriots trying
Speaker 2: to stop Russell Wilson because he really was great that evening.
Speaker 2: All righty see, what's the pole question we're going to
Speaker 2: go with today?
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, I think they make an interesting point too,
Speaker 7: that the uh, you know, they've forced Jalen Hurts, The
Speaker 7: Chiefs forced Jalen Hurts to beat them and he did,
Speaker 7: you know, by taking away Saquon Barkley. They're like, we're
Speaker 7: not going to let our best player, their best player
Speaker 7: beat us.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so we're going to force this.
Speaker 7: Dude to make some plays and it turns out he did.
Speaker 4: So what what kind of pole question are we looking at?
Speaker 4: Who is the biggest threat?
Speaker 7: Who's the biggest threat. Who's the big threat to the
Speaker 7: Eagles in the NFC? Lions, forty nine, Ers, Commanders, Buccaneers, Vikings, Rams,
Speaker 7: other neither neither.
Speaker 4: Oh don't ch you have to put the Cowboys on there
Speaker 4: at least the questions we got, admit.
Speaker 7: I don't know that we'd die.
Speaker 5: The Cowboys were the threatening teams. The Cowboys were the
Speaker 5: eleventh ranked team in the NFC last year. They had
Speaker 5: seven wins. There's ten teams ahead of them on the
Speaker 5: depth sh a Ry top ten only.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, Dak Prescott said they're pretty close. Though, of
Speaker 2: course he has to say that. Now if he said, no,
Speaker 2: we're not close, now you have a story. But of
Speaker 2: course he's going to say. I could probably say to
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams, hey, how close are you to be in
Speaker 2: a super Bowl team? Hey, we're not We're not that
Speaker 2: far away, you know. I would say the Commanders feel
Speaker 2: a little closer, the Lions feel a little closer. I
Speaker 2: would still put San Francisco in there, maybe last call,
Speaker 2: but yeah, you could do that. I think recency biased
Speaker 2: people would say probably the Commanders. I'd still say the Lions,
Speaker 2: because the Lions get healthy, they have everybody, they don't
Speaker 2: necessarily need anybody. But if they would happen to go
Speaker 2: all in on Miles Garrett, now all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: we have a conversation here. But that Eagles defense, now
Speaker 2: they might lose a couple of these players. I think
Speaker 2: they have three free agents there, but you still have
Speaker 2: your offense signed up, and that's still a great offensive
Speaker 2: line and a great defensive line. Just that combination there.
Speaker 2: You're in every game, every single game because you have
Speaker 2: a great offensive line. Great defensive line and because of that,
Speaker 2: the Eagles will be back in this situation next season
Speaker 2: if they stay healthy. Kellen Moore is leaving the Eagles.
Speaker 2: There were people who talked about would you leave the
Speaker 2: Eagles offensive coordinator position to be a head coach? Now,
Speaker 2: granted it's the Saints and they're generic, but still, you
Speaker 2: get to be a head coach in the NFL. I
Speaker 2: mean that's the goal for most of these coordinators. You
Speaker 2: can't pass on that. Hey, he's never going to get
Speaker 2: the credit in Philadelphia. Oh, oh, who is the offensive
Speaker 2: court know? Oh Kellen Moore? Yeah, wasn't he with the Cowboys? Yeah,
Speaker 2: he was with the Chargers, So his window is open.
Speaker 2: It was open for him to get the head coaching position. Now,
Speaker 2: the Saints aren't going to be very good. Like the
Speaker 2: Saints are sort of in no man's land that they're
Speaker 2: middle and they're vanilla, like there's nothing about them where
Speaker 2: you go.
Speaker 4: Hey, Now, the.
Speaker 2: First two weeks of this past season, when they're putting
Speaker 2: up forty points, I'm like, wait a minute here, what's
Speaker 2: going on with the Saints? And then they came back
Speaker 2: to earth and then we realize the Saints are the
Speaker 2: Saints or the Aints, and okay, you can win that division,
Speaker 2: but I expect Atlanta to one day get it right.
Speaker 4: Tampa Bay is still good.
Speaker 2: But you know, these windows they open and they close rapidly.
Speaker 4: You know, the Rams.
Speaker 2: It felt like the window was opened just a little
Speaker 2: bit and then they opened it wider and wider and wider,
Speaker 2: and then all of us sudden, I go, they are
Speaker 2: going to beat the Eagles. They're going to go down
Speaker 2: and score a touchdown, kick the extra point, They're going
Speaker 2: to go to the super Bowl. I mean, that's how
Speaker 2: close it was. When you think about, hey, the Eagles
Speaker 2: were great. Now, granted you're playing in snow, but the
Speaker 2: Eagles are in Philadelphia.
Speaker 4: The Rams are in LA.
Speaker 2: So you factor that in if you want to that
Speaker 2: maybe that kept the game closer because of the conditions.
Speaker 2: But the Rams were going to beat the Eagles in
Speaker 2: Philadelphia at their own game.
Speaker 4: That's how close it was.
Speaker 2: So as much as we want to christen the Eagles
Speaker 2: and say man dominating, and they were, they could have
Speaker 2: easily have lost that game to the Rams eight seven
Speaker 2: to seven to three.
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Speaker 2: show McKellen Moore did a really good job with that offense.
Speaker 2: But if you give me the best offensive line, I
Speaker 2: got two really good wide receivers. I got the best
Speaker 2: running back in football.
Speaker 4: I got a.
Speaker 2: Quarterback who rises to the occasion. I got a good
Speaker 2: tight end. I should put up points. And I was
Speaker 2: looking at this the Saints hired Kellen Moore. The Eagles
Speaker 2: averaged thirty six points per game in the postseason in
Speaker 2: the last thirty years. The only team to average more
Speaker 2: in winning at least two playoff games the twenty nineteen Chiefs.
Speaker 2: They scored thirty nine points per game.
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Speaker 2: rank among uninteresting, non relevant teams and non threatening non
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Speaker 4: Mediocre thrown around too a little bit vanilla? I heard, yes, Tod,
Speaker 4: The Titans.
Speaker 8: Are definitely there. Jaguars, well, at.
Speaker 2: Least the Titans have the number one pick in the draft,
Speaker 2: so they're at least interesting for about thirty minutes on
Speaker 2: Draft night.
Speaker 8: Arizona is kind of not anything.
Speaker 2: God, I thought Arizona was going to make a leap
Speaker 2: this past year. My guy Kyler Murray, Carolina. Although Caroline,
Speaker 2: I'm curious about Carolina now after you know, spending some time,
Speaker 2: you know, with some of those players at the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: I are the Patriots interesting?
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: Let me take a break because we're going to run
Speaker 2: down this list here and I need a little more time. Also,
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant over thirty thousand points in his career, but
Speaker 2: how he's being described feels like it's a little bit
Speaker 2: of a knock on his resume. We'll have that for
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Speaker 2: question for the first hour. The Eagles defensive back Cooper
Speaker 2: de Jean will join us next hour, and Nick Wright
Speaker 2: will stop by to take his beating in the final
Speaker 2: hour of the program. All Right, you know I saw
Speaker 2: this article. Somebody sent me this article. I don't know
Speaker 2: why they sent me the article, but they said, hey,
Speaker 2: have you seen this trend in Hollywood? I go, Okay,
Speaker 2: guys getting chin implants and spending at least ten thousand
Speaker 2: dollars on getting.
Speaker 4: A like a really defined jaw a chin plant.
Speaker 2: Yes, And I guess what they do is they'll take
Speaker 2: pictures in of like Chris Hemsworth and like all these
Speaker 2: modo guys, and you go in and you say, I
Speaker 2: want my chin to look like that, and I think
Speaker 2: they're chin plants that like twelve thousand dollars.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Paul, Yeah, I'm looking at this now. There's a
Speaker 5: number of specialties, especially in the Beverly Hills area, and
Speaker 5: I can get chin for seven thousand. That's probably the
Speaker 5: bargain basement.
Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't know if I want to go bargain
Speaker 4: when it comes to my face, you know.
Speaker 5: So what do they do? They probably put like an
Speaker 5: extension to the bones on your chin.
Speaker 4: I have no idea, checking, I have no idea, Yes, Ted,
Speaker 4: is it worth it?
Speaker 10: Though? Knowing even if you go to the most famous person,
Speaker 10: the greatest one and Beverly Hills or whatever, and they
Speaker 10: screw that up somehow, and now you have a worse
Speaker 10: looking chin, or it has some kind of weird dent
Speaker 10: to it.
Speaker 8: Can someone's chin unless you're Jay Leno or someone.
Speaker 10: Can someone's chin be that horrible that you need to
Speaker 10: do that when you think you're gonna be all of
Speaker 10: a sudden you' gona be hot because of your chin.
Speaker 4: I'm surprised that you went that route, that you skewed
Speaker 4: negative automatically, that they would screw up the search.
Speaker 10: It happens, though, and even if they do a perfect job,
Speaker 10: like well, you can take an average person and all
Speaker 10: of a sudden you become someone that's gonna be on
Speaker 10: the cover of magazines or look what to deal with that.
Speaker 4: I don't think this is for actors.
Speaker 2: I think this is for people who want to maybe
Speaker 2: get something that an actor has that you get to
Speaker 2: go in and say, hey, I want to have Brad
Speaker 2: Pitt's chin.
Speaker 10: There's so many parts of one's body that you would
Speaker 10: think would take precedence over how much money do you
Speaker 10: have left for the average person?
Speaker 8: Then to go chin is something I really got to
Speaker 8: deal with.
Speaker 4: Thank you, Todd.
Speaker 5: Yes, Pauline, a chin implant is not that big of
Speaker 5: a deal from what I'm reading. Incision made under the
Speaker 5: chin so the scar is hidden, or you can go
Speaker 5: reverse it from inside the mouth. They create a pocket
Speaker 5: for the implant, and then the implant is inserted and
Speaker 5: molded to your chin bones. You're adding to it. There
Speaker 5: may be some filing down to the chin bone to
Speaker 5: make it more adhesive.
Speaker 2: But I never even noticed my chin. I didn't go, hey,
Speaker 2: how's my chin look? Or how do you compare it
Speaker 2: to somebody else?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 2: Who's got the best jawline in the building? Here a
Speaker 2: jaw off, We can have a jaw well, Jeff, my
Speaker 2: nickname is jawfi. So'm I guess I'm going to recuse
Speaker 2: myself from this. Who has the best seaton? Are you
Speaker 2: trying to answer your jaw line? By the way you're
Speaker 2: frowning or looking?
Speaker 6: What do you mean?
Speaker 2: That's what I thought? Who has the least intimidating jawline?
Speaker 8: That might be me?
Speaker 4: Yeah, probably.
Speaker 8: I like my little nose.
Speaker 10: You know, we all have a thing maybe that we
Speaker 10: like about us as there's a lot of things that
Speaker 10: need a lot of construction on my end, but I
Speaker 10: always liked my nose.
Speaker 4: This was about the jaw.
Speaker 8: I think I have an average jaw. Yeah, I don't
Speaker 8: think I'm intimidating anybody.
Speaker 2: With my once again ten to twelve thousand dollars, and
Speaker 2: you could have the Chris Hemsworth, wasn't he thor or
Speaker 2: any one of those Marvel guys, one of the Hemsworth brothers.
Speaker 4: Yes, paum, If.
Speaker 5: You guys got a jaw implant or something, would you
Speaker 5: celebrate it and tell everybody or act like nothing happened.
Speaker 5: Let's say it's not a crazy surgery, but it's definitely
Speaker 5: everyone would notice something.
Speaker 4: Well, you're doing something to get noticed.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but you also don't like being pointed at. Oh
Speaker 5: look what you did. I wonder if you we announcer,
Speaker 5: try to slip it past the goalie.
Speaker 4: Oh, we would notice right away. You would notice right away.
Speaker 4: You'd be like, hey with one eye, Yeah, what are
Speaker 4: you doing? You get a jaw implant?
Speaker 11: Yes?
Speaker 8: Time are you doing something to get noticed?
Speaker 10: Or you're doing something to feel better about yourself, because
Speaker 10: every time you look in the mirror, you don't feel
Speaker 10: attractive or good enough compared to what you see on
Speaker 10: social media and AI pictures that are not even real people.
Speaker 4: Well, there's a lot of things you could do to
Speaker 4: get noticed. I think you would like to enhance or
Speaker 4: feel better about yourself.
Speaker 10: I don't if I would get I don't know if
Speaker 10: they are suppose to get passed. So I hope everyone
Speaker 10: realizes that I got plastic surgery. I think it's the
Speaker 10: other way, especially when people take like the medications to
Speaker 10: lose weight, Like a lot of people would rather think that, wow,
Speaker 10: you must be really get regret him.
Speaker 4: And walking with you. I regret bringing this up my bet. Okay.
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant went over thirty thousand points, and he did
Speaker 2: so in the third fewest games Wilt nine hundred and
Speaker 2: forty one games, Jordan nine sixty. So the two top
Speaker 2: scorers never really had the benefit of the three point shot.
Speaker 2: Jordan did, but he didn't. It wasn't used the same
Speaker 2: way it is now. Will of course did not, and
Speaker 2: he wouldn't have been taking three point shots. So Durant
Speaker 2: is in there tied with Kareem abdul Jabbar.
Speaker 4: And one games.
Speaker 2: Lebron did it in six more games than those two.
Speaker 2: Then it's Karl Malone, Kobe Bryant, and Dirk Navisky. But
Speaker 2: with Kevin Durant, he is described as one of the
Speaker 2: great scores of all time, one of the great scores. Well,
Speaker 2: he is on the list, but out of that group,
Speaker 2: who do we say greatest scores. He's one of the
Speaker 2: greatest scorers of all time. Jordan, we call him the
Speaker 2: best player of all time. Kareem is one of the
Speaker 2: best players of all time. Lebron, even though he'll end
Speaker 2: up with the most points in NBA history, I don't
Speaker 2: think we look at him and go he's one of
Speaker 2: the great scores Karl Malone, Kobe. It almost feels like
Speaker 2: there's a disservis that Kevin Durant was one dimensional. He
Speaker 2: just a score, that's it. Now he is he can
Speaker 2: score anywhere against anybody. But it almost felt feels like
Speaker 2: we do a disservice in how we describe Kevin Durant.
Speaker 2: Alan Iverson great score, right, I think we would say
Speaker 2: that Alex English was another player, great score, Carmelo Anthony
Speaker 2: great score. Kevin Durant is different than those players because
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant actually can play defense, or has played defense,
Speaker 2: and I think at a couple stages in his career
Speaker 2: averaged like six assists. But he's he's so good at
Speaker 2: one thing that you forget about all the other things.
Speaker 2: You know, Mellow wasn't going to be a great passer, rebounder, defender.
Speaker 2: He was a great, great shooter, great score. Kareem could
Speaker 2: do a lot of different things. Lebron could, Karl Malone
Speaker 2: I think he was all NBA defense a few times,
Speaker 2: and a rebounder. Kobe could do everything. Dirk Navitz, Dirk
Speaker 2: was a great score Dirk would probably be in that
Speaker 2: Kevin dur He might be Kevin Durant before Kevin Durant
Speaker 2: as far as that guy can score, because I don't
Speaker 2: know if I ever remember a stat line where we went.
Speaker 2: You know, Novitsky had thirty one thirteen and seven. He
Speaker 2: just I don't remember ever saying anything like that with
Speaker 2: Dirk Noavitsky, but he was just like Kevin Durant.
Speaker 4: You couldn't guard him. He really he could score on
Speaker 4: any bit.
Speaker 2: But he was a deep shooter, one of the first
Speaker 2: big men who was truly a deep shooter. And Durant
Speaker 2: can score anywhere. But it almost I think what it's
Speaker 2: all said and done, Kevin Durant will be described as
Speaker 2: not one of the great players of all time or
Speaker 2: great all around players. It'll be he's one of the
Speaker 2: great scorers in NBA history, and I just think he's
Speaker 2: so much more than that. But I think he's so
Speaker 2: good at that that it kind of drowns out everything
Speaker 2: else he has.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Pulling, Yeah, he has really good rebounding stats, block stats, steals, assists.
Speaker 5: There are seasons where he averaged twenty eight a game
Speaker 5: with eight rebounds and six assists, plus a block and
Speaker 5: a steal. I wonder if a guy like durant he's
Speaker 5: pretty intellectual and pays attention this, would he be bothered
Speaker 5: by just being called one of the greatest.
Speaker 2: Scores Fritzi get Kevin durant On. Let me ask him
Speaker 2: just one question, That's all I'm going to ask. I
Speaker 2: think you're right, it's a slight, Yes, Ton.
Speaker 10: I agree that it's a slight, and someone of his
Speaker 10: sensitivity where he responds to people on social media, anything
Speaker 10: that even remotely suggests that all he really does is
Speaker 10: score a lot of points wouldn't upset him greatly.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's going to upset him greatly,
Speaker 2: but I think he would like to be described as
Speaker 2: one of the great players of all time, not just
Speaker 2: a great score. So he's the eighth player in NBA
Speaker 2: history to reach thirty thousand points and did so quicker
Speaker 2: than everybody but Michael Jordan and Wilt Chamberlain in the
Speaker 2: history of the game. But to do it in the
Speaker 2: same number of games with Kareem, who, to me is
Speaker 2: the most unstoppable player in modern history. Because even Wilt
Speaker 2: at the end of his career, when Wilt was a
Speaker 2: defender and a rebounder with the Lakers, that he thought
Speaker 2: he was going to be able to take care of
Speaker 2: Kareem Abdul Jabbar. And I remember the first time they met,
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, you saw that skyhook and
Speaker 2: Will thought he could go up and block it. Kareem's like,
Speaker 2: I'll just toss sneeze in a couple of them, yes, Mark.
Speaker 6: And I think the big difference is with guys like
Speaker 6: Larry Bird and Lebron James, their most famous plays are
Speaker 6: like defensive plays are passes, where Kevin Durant's most famous
Speaker 6: plays are big time shots, and that's really all he
Speaker 6: was known for because he was so great. To me
Speaker 6: that I've ever seen the most unstoppable offensive force, only
Speaker 6: because on every single level he could do everything.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's different than Kareem. You had to get the
Speaker 2: ball to Kareem. Kevin Durant could bring it up, he
Speaker 2: could hit a jumper, he could go inside, he could post.
Speaker 2: You could do all of those things. Michael could do
Speaker 2: that as well. Lebron could do that as well. Kobe
Speaker 2: could do that as well. Novitzky to a certain degree,
Speaker 2: but not like Kevin Durant Karl Malone. It just felt
Speaker 2: like Malone is always going to be attached to Stockton
Speaker 2: and that he needed Stockton to you know, fast break.
Speaker 2: It's stocked in to Malone. But you know, thirty thousand
Speaker 2: career points, Yeah, paint.
Speaker 5: Kevin Durant led the league in scoring at five different
Speaker 5: times in his career, but he only led the league
Speaker 5: in shot attempts twice. He was not a gunner. And
Speaker 5: for example, Kobe Bryant, he led a league in shots
Speaker 5: six different times in his career.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it felt like if you're looking at economy, like
Speaker 2: an economical scorer who scored thirty thousand points. I mean,
Speaker 2: it never felt like Durant was volume, like Jordan was
Speaker 2: volume for a while. Wilt certainly was volume. Kareem, I
Speaker 2: don't know the number of shots per game for him.
Speaker 2: Lebron did everything. Karl Malone felt like volume Kobe was
Speaker 2: certainly volume Dirk. I guess volume, yeah, Mark.
Speaker 6: And the crazy thing about Kevin Durant is he has
Speaker 6: the same amount of scoring titles as Alan Iverson, Like
Speaker 6: it's just one of those things like wait, so, probably
Speaker 6: the most impressive physical specimen as far as height and
Speaker 6: handle and all that is on the same It's on
Speaker 6: par with Alan Iverson, who's the same height as I An.
Speaker 2: Okay, but do we do a disservice to Steph Curry
Speaker 2: because we don't talk about being a great player all
Speaker 2: around player. He's the greatest shooter in NBA history and
Speaker 2: he's one of the greatest scores in NBA history, but
Speaker 2: you don't talk about really anything else. But that's the
Speaker 2: best shooter of all Now that's not a knock. If
Speaker 2: you say you're gonna call me the best shooter of
Speaker 2: all time, I'll take that. But Durant. Is Durant a
Speaker 2: better all around player than Steph Curry? And I would
Speaker 2: say yes he is because he not a liability at
Speaker 2: the other end, probably an equal passer. It's just Steph
Speaker 2: is the greatest shooter of all time. I mean, I'd
Speaker 2: take that. That's pretty good. But one of the great
Speaker 2: scorers of all time for a guy like Kevin Durant,
Speaker 2: Now he might look at that as a little bit
Speaker 2: of a knock there.
Speaker 5: Yep on to me, I think Steph Curry's in his
Speaker 5: own category where he doesn't fit into other side. He's like, maybe,
Speaker 5: like Dan Marino, he changed the entire league, and he
Speaker 5: invented the deep shooting league, and Dan Marino invented pass
Speaker 5: first run later, maybe I think that's a close comm Yeah.
Speaker 2: Is anybody else close to thirty thousand? What's the next
Speaker 2: closest to thirty thirty grand? I mean Durant's been doing.
Speaker 2: Remember when he was at Texas and I remember the
Speaker 2: draft profiles like, oh, he's not gonna survive. He's seven feet,
Speaker 2: weighs one't eighty. Now he might weigh two hundred Now,
Speaker 2: maybe he's put on two hundred pounds, yes, Mark.
Speaker 6: Yeah, people were saying he couldn't venture hundred eighty five pounds.
Speaker 6: I was like, you know, what does a weig eighty
Speaker 6: five pounds a basketball?
Speaker 4: How much that basketball away?
Speaker 11: Yeah?
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can hoist that up thirty times a night, Yeah, Paul.
Speaker 5: Active players, James Harden is at just under twenty seven
Speaker 5: thousand points, Russell Westbrook at twenty six thousand, Steph Curry
Speaker 5: at twenty five thousand, Shockingly, Demarta Rosen's at twenty five thousand,
Speaker 5: and you can't name a single basket nice twelve footer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's the guy that pulls up at the free
Speaker 2: throw line on a fast break. You know, old school,
Speaker 2: you know your coach would say, hey, make the defender
Speaker 2: come to you. You know, hit that pull up jumper
Speaker 2: if you need to. Guys now they don't hit a
Speaker 2: pull up jumper. And Demarta Rosen doesn't take threes either.
Speaker 2: James Harden's gonna end up with thirty thousand points in
Speaker 2: his career. The Russell Westbrook because he's not a shooter.
Speaker 2: He is truly a I mean, he's a lot of
Speaker 2: different things, and he's kind of had a career resurgence
Speaker 2: here with Denver Yes Todd and.
Speaker 10: Then it jumps all the way down to Dame at
Speaker 10: twenty two to two eight four.
Speaker 8: So he's got a ways to go together.
Speaker 2: Yeah, is Steph gonna be around to get thirty grand hardened?
Speaker 2: It feels like we'll be a couple of phone calls
Speaker 2: in here. Chris in California. Good morning, Chris, what's on
Speaker 2: your mind?
Speaker 12: Good morning? I was calling because I had some outsider
Speaker 12: news about what may have happened with Denzel's late loss.
Speaker 12: Apparently sources far from me or saying that he may
Speaker 12: have bitten happens hung off in some type of mishaps.
Speaker 2: Yes, I read that that he did, and he's getting
Speaker 2: ready to do a play on Broadway where I think
Speaker 2: it's Othello or something like that. But he did bite
Speaker 2: his tongue somehow. I don't know what he was doing,
Speaker 2: but yeah, thank you for that information. I don't know
Speaker 2: if that's the reason why he lost like sixty pounds,
Speaker 2: because when we saw when we last saw him in
Speaker 2: the Equalizer, he was he was large. Yeah, it was
Speaker 2: yes time.
Speaker 8: That's why it's safe with a hold your tongue, bite
Speaker 8: your lip.
Speaker 2: Okay, David and Spritzy is here all day long. David
Speaker 2: in Cincinnati. Hi, David, what's on your mind?
Speaker 3: Hey, what's going wrong?
Speaker 11: Guys? I was just giving you guys a call because
Speaker 11: you all opened up the show talking about, you know,
Speaker 11: some of the greatest football teams and all that. Now
Speaker 11: now you're talking about some of the greatest scores and
Speaker 11: your experience or you know, in your quest of college knowledge,
Speaker 11: who is the greatest college basketball team ever assembled? My
Speaker 11: few opinions are would be like the nineties UNLV running
Speaker 11: Rebels team with Larry Johnson, would be the Fab Five
Speaker 11: with you know, Michigan. But in my opinion, it's either
Speaker 11: the ninety eight or the ninety six Kentucky Wildcats. They
Speaker 11: had nine players on that team go to the NBA
Speaker 11: that year, and I don't think any other college team
Speaker 11: has ever produced that many stars.
Speaker 2: Ever, they had the most talent. You could say that
Speaker 2: about Kentucky usually they had the most talent, but they
Speaker 2: won one national title with john there. Now, you know,
Speaker 2: it'd be tough to say, you know, UNLV, if they
Speaker 2: had won back to back titles, then I think you
Speaker 2: could look at them they were great. But you know,
Speaker 2: close game against Duke and they melted down. And you know,
Speaker 2: be hard pressed to not have Duke in there as
Speaker 2: one of the great teams of all time. And if
Speaker 2: we're talking about a single season, the Fam five didn't
Speaker 2: win a title, so they're not in there. Talent, yes, storyline, yes, impact, Yes,
Speaker 2: you know you can go back UCLA didn't you know
Speaker 2: it really wasn't It was the sum of its parts.
Speaker 2: They didn't have great individual players when Luel Sindor was there.
Speaker 2: The guys that they had, most of them didn't play
Speaker 2: in the NBA. Lucius Allen was a guard who played
Speaker 2: in the NBA. Mike Warren I think a little bit,
Speaker 2: but it was really Luel Sindor. So if you're looking
Speaker 2: at individual Filama Jama had as much talent as anybody,
Speaker 2: and they didn't win the national title. Even with Patrick
Speaker 2: Ewing and Georgetown. It wasn't great talent. That was once again,
Speaker 2: you had Ewing and maybe you had one other guy
Speaker 2: who was a score and they played great defense.
Speaker 5: Gampoint eighty two North Carolina, Sam Perkins, James Worthy, Michael Jordan.
Speaker 5: That is some all time talent.
Speaker 2: But they needed a last second jumper to win the
Speaker 2: national title as great as they were, and that was
Speaker 2: a lot of talent, and back then Worthy was considered
Speaker 2: the better player than Michael Jordan. Perhaps you have heard
Speaker 2: of him. All right, well take a break. We're off
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Speaker 4: that alrighty Uh David in Phoenix? Hi David, what's on
Speaker 4: your mind today?
Speaker 11: Hi?
Speaker 1: Dan?
Speaker 3: I live in Phoenix now, but I grew up in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3: And it's a little known fact that Bill Kauer is
Speaker 3: rumored to have the first chin implant and another great
Speaker 3: chin is Cale Sanderson, the Penn State wrestling coach. May
Speaker 3: want to take a look at that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, do you walk in and say I'll take
Speaker 2: the cower? You bring in a picture?
Speaker 4: Uh? What do you want your job?
Speaker 2: Have you ever brought a picture to a barber and
Speaker 2: say I want a haircut? Like huh? Because women will
Speaker 2: do that, you know, They'll say, oh, I'd like to
Speaker 2: have oh Jennifer Aniston's haircut?
Speaker 4: Can you do that? Have you brought a picture in
Speaker 4: let's seatotic not you? Uh, Paulie? Maybe a Jason statho
Speaker 4: you take it all off? Yes?
Speaker 2: Yes, Marvin have you ever gone in and said I'm
Speaker 2: gonna look like that.
Speaker 6: I asked my mom if I can get the Sean Kemp.
Speaker 4: She was like absolutely not.
Speaker 2: Well, your mom's tough, and maybe she was doing you
Speaker 2: a favor, that's what she said.
Speaker 6: Yes, she wasn't even like doing it to be mean.
Speaker 6: She was like, Marvin, in thirty years, you'll thank me,
Speaker 6: and I thank her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because those pictures come back to haunt you. It's
Speaker 2: like draft night when I always say, pick a really
Speaker 2: good suit that will withstand the test of time, and
Speaker 2: they don't always listen to me.
Speaker 6: Yes, Mark, maybe I had I did have the Gumby,
Speaker 6: you know, the Gumby, like the kind of high top
Speaker 6: favorite play like Bobby Brown, Bobby Brown, Bobby don't be
Speaker 6: cruel Era.
Speaker 4: Okay, yes, do you have a picture?
Speaker 3: Huh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that you need to bring in the picture,
Speaker 2: don't you think.
Speaker 8: Do I think?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I think you should think about doing that, yeah, Paul.
Speaker 5: When I was in high school, a couple of my
Speaker 5: high school friends went to the barber and they got
Speaker 5: the Brian Bosworth, the shave sides Oklahoma linebacker. But they
Speaker 5: weren't jacked like Bosworth. They were like normal guys. It
Speaker 5: did not work. It was very popular for about a year.
Speaker 2: Uh, Chris and Tennessee. Hi Chris, what's on your mind?
Speaker 11: Hey?
Speaker 13: Good morning there. How are you guys good? I just
Speaker 13: wanted to chime in for a second on all this
Speaker 13: go talk about everybody, but I'm going to focus on
Speaker 13: football for a minute. There's been a lot of talk
Speaker 13: about Brady and my Homes, and it's my Holmes would
Speaker 13: have won the Super Bowl and performed better, he'd be
Speaker 13: the greatest of all time. I think we cannot compare Marino,
Speaker 13: Montana and Mahomes Brady, any of these guys with one
Speaker 13: another unless they have the exact same scenario. Meaning put
Speaker 13: Mahomes of Brady back into the day when far or
Speaker 13: Marino we're playing, and see how well they play in
Speaker 13: the same circumstances. Or put those guys you know, with
Speaker 13: Kansas City or Philadelphia and see how well they do.
Speaker 13: You just can't compare one person to the other because
Speaker 13: the schemes.
Speaker 2: The coordinator, Oh no, we got that, we understand it.
Speaker 2: It's hard to compare generations. Thank you, Chris.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I get it, but we still do it. It's
Speaker 4: fun to do it.
Speaker 2: People are going to do it no matter what mahomes
Speaker 2: playing with Kansas City, he gets to play with those
Speaker 2: guys or that coach Brady with those players and that coach.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's how it works.
Speaker 2: The team, the luck of the draw, who you're with,
Speaker 2: How bad is the team when you get there? Who's
Speaker 2: the coach? Continuity? What's the game like? What are the
Speaker 2: rules like? You know, we get it, but we still
Speaker 2: want to do that. The most mediocre team in the
Speaker 2: National Football League. We were talking about the Saints because
Speaker 2: Kellen Moore is going there and congratulations getting his first
Speaker 2: head coaching John, But who is the most mediocre team?
Speaker 2: So what's the definition of mediocre? Because this has to
Speaker 2: do with are you relevant, any star power? What was
Speaker 2: your record?
Speaker 5: You have to be non threatening and non interesting? Okayimous.
Speaker 4: So the most non threatening, non interesting team.
Speaker 5: Here's an example. The Las Vegas Raiders are not threatening
Speaker 5: right now and they have a top ten pick, but
Speaker 5: they added Pete Carroll which boosts their interest rating, and
Speaker 5: Tom Brady Tommy Brady, and then if they get Shora Sanders,
Speaker 5: they become interesting, maybe not threatening.
Speaker 10: Yes to Jonathan Gannon's eight and nine Cardinals in the
Speaker 10: NFC West, O.
Speaker 8: There's just nothing much there to get excited about.
Speaker 7: All right, Seaton, well, they have a winning record, but
Speaker 7: I don't really find, excuse me, the Seattle Seahawks all
Speaker 7: that interesting.
Speaker 4: I mean, I root for Gino Smith.
Speaker 7: I want him to do well, but other than that,
Speaker 7: they're kind of like a pretty nondescripts like, yeah, they
Speaker 7: might win some games, they might not.
Speaker 4: Okay, No problem.
Speaker 2: Is Seattle the Saints of the Pacific Northwest.
Speaker 4: Are the Saints the Seahawks of the Bayou?
Speaker 10: Yes time, But Seattle least worth ten and seven, I know,
Speaker 10: and they've got a five and twelve I know.
Speaker 4: But they're not threatening. They're not really relevant.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: They Seahawks do have a couple of players. I keep
Speaker 2: waiting for you DK Metcalf to be great, but I
Speaker 2: don't know. The Bengals are really relevant. They're threatening and
Speaker 2: they got interesting players. Tennessee we've said they're not threatening,
Speaker 2: not relevant, but they do have the first pick in
Speaker 2: the draft. Cleveland Browns. Are they They're non threatening? Are
Speaker 2: they interesting though? I would say they are, yes, Tom,
Speaker 2: just because.
Speaker 10: They got a new coach and they're in New York.
Speaker 10: The Jets, why should they be exciting? Just because they're
Speaker 10: in New York.
Speaker 2: Hour two on the way coming up, we'll talk to Cooper,
Speaker 2: to Jean, the Eagles, threatening and relevant, and Nick Wright
Speaker 2: will join us in an hour from now back after
Speaker 2: this