WEBVTT - 060124  The Difference Between Republicans and Conservatives (Part 2)

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<v Speaker 1>he's bat in a thousand today. He took a loss

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<v Speaker 1>all week. CE this guy down lot on my heart

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<v Speaker 1>and we all appreciate all of us in the studio

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<v Speaker 1>listening to you appreciate that because it's a moment. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>stick around. We do have to talk some more. We

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<v Speaker 1>are going to be discussing and this should really go

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<v Speaker 1>with the second or with the first part of the show.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to be discussing Republicans versus conservatives. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like that's kind of an important distinction to make these days,

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<v Speaker 1>because there's a lot of people who are conservative and

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<v Speaker 1>not Republican and vice versa, and I think we need

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<v Speaker 1>to have that conversation. But before we get there. It's

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<v Speaker 1>also becoming a better ally now Republicans versus conservatives. Before

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<v Speaker 1>we get there, I'm going to share something that I

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<v Speaker 1>came across that I feel is potent and this will

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<v Speaker 1>be kind of a launch pad for the conversation we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to have. So this comes from a writer named

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<v Speaker 1>William Weir. He's responding to an online forum and I

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<v Speaker 1>just just copied it and I wanted to share it

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<v Speaker 1>because I think that this kind of paints a picture this. First,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to have a conversation between Democrats and Republicans,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we're going to have a conversation between Republicans

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<v Speaker 1>and conservatives. But first, this is where we'll start. So

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<v Speaker 1>the question posed to William Weir was if we had

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<v Speaker 1>two countries, one filled with liberals only and the other

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<v Speaker 1>filled with conservatives only, in the long run, which country

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<v Speaker 1>would perform better? And this is his response. There are

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of other variables that could influence this, but

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<v Speaker 1>let's just take a look at America. The states with

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<v Speaker 1>the highest poverty rates are Louisiana, New Mexico, West Virginia, Kentucky,

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<v Speaker 1>and Arkansas. New Mexico lean's blue, but the others are

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<v Speaker 1>deep red. The states with the lowest poverty rates are

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<v Speaker 1>New Hampshire, Maryland, Utah, Hawaii, and Minnesota. Utah is red,

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<v Speaker 1>but the others are all blue or lean blue. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's you know, who has the lowest poverty versus

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<v Speaker 1>who has the highest poverty. All Right, The states with

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<v Speaker 1>the best education are all blue or lean blue, New Jersey, Massachusetts, Connecticut, Minnesota,

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<v Speaker 1>and Wisconsin. The states with the worst are New Mexico, Mississippi,

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<v Speaker 1>South Carolina, Louisiana, and Idaho. Again, all are deep red,

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<v Speaker 1>except for New Mexico. New Mexico has some other things

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<v Speaker 1>going on there. Let's go to the incarceration. The states

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<v Speaker 1>with the highest incarceration rates are Louisiana, Delaware, Mississippi, Oklahoma,

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<v Speaker 1>and Alaska. Once again four red and one blue, which

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<v Speaker 1>is Delaware. The states with the lowest are New Hampshire,

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<v Speaker 1>North Dakota, Minnesota, Massachusetts, and Maine. And the trends and

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<v Speaker 1>the trend holds with one red state, which is North Dakota,

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<v Speaker 1>and the others are all blue or landing blue. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>look at healthcare. The best are Hawaii, Massachusetts, Connecticut, New Jersey,

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<v Speaker 1>and California. A clean sweep for Team Blue. Actually, the

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<v Speaker 1>top ten are all blue as far as healthcare is concerned,

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<v Speaker 1>with Utah scoring the highest of the red states at

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<v Speaker 1>number eleven, and the worst are Mississippi, Arkansas, Oklahoma, West

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<v Speaker 1>Virginia and Louisiana. A clean sweep for Team Red. Ten

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<v Speaker 1>of the bottom eleven are all red, with only one

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<v Speaker 1>swing state, Georgia, coming in at number forty three, and

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<v Speaker 1>with Nevada coming in lowest of the blue states at

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<v Speaker 1>number thirty nine. As if that wasn't enough, eight of

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<v Speaker 1>the ten states who pay the highest federal income taxes

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<v Speaker 1>per capita are blue. And that's you know, states with

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<v Speaker 1>surpluses and states with where people are doing enough to

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<v Speaker 1>afford that and paying in for national funds. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>because states pay to the federal government, and eight of

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<v Speaker 1>the ten states that rely the most on federal funding

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<v Speaker 1>are read. That means the government has to give money.

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<v Speaker 1>So California is paying money to the government. The government

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<v Speaker 1>then gives that money to Alabama, and then people in

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<v Speaker 1>Alabama are like, at least we don't live in California,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and it's like they're that delusion that you

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<v Speaker 1>spoke of in the first half of the show. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>where was I all? Right? Eight of the ten states

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<v Speaker 1>that rely most on federal funding are read. The five

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<v Speaker 1>states with the highest COVID death rates were all red,

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<v Speaker 1>and three of the five with the lowest death rates

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<v Speaker 1>were blue. That's Alaska and Utah were the only red states,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're very sparsely populated. There's not a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>folks in Utah or Alaska, so obviously there are other

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<v Speaker 1>factors involved, or we'd see clean sweeps for every category.

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<v Speaker 1>But the overall trend is clear. Red states are by

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<v Speaker 1>and large terrible at everything, while blue states perform much better. Okay, again,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the writing of William Weir.

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<v Speaker 2>Want to I want to interject, please, because it might

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<v Speaker 2>seem like he's being light there, but they're only fifty states.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're in the bottom five of everything, you're performing terribly.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to hear the word terrible and what

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<v Speaker 2>that's being mean or hyperbolic or he's writing with colorful language.

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<v Speaker 1>No, you're in the twentieth or what is it the

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<v Speaker 1>twentieth period? Objectively terrible? Yeah, that's that's fair, all right. So,

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<v Speaker 1>based on the data, in a hypothetical scenario where we

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<v Speaker 1>divide the Red states from the Blue states and form

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<v Speaker 1>two different countries, the Blue country would prosper while the

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<v Speaker 1>Red country would be quickly filled with poor, uneducated, sick

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<v Speaker 1>criminals starving to death with no one to pay for

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<v Speaker 1>their food stamps. Actually that's not entirely true. I'd imagine

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<v Speaker 1>that before that red country devolved to the point that

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<v Speaker 1>they look like the set of a mad Max movie.

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<v Speaker 1>They start listening to some liberals and turn some things around.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder why he said that as the last sentence.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not just talking to our listeners. I'm asking

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<v Speaker 2>Ramses and not that knows this or can speak for you.

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<v Speaker 2>But why on earth would anybody think that, instead of,

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<v Speaker 2>as he said, turning into the set of a mad

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<v Speaker 2>Max movie, that they would just start listening to liberals

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<v Speaker 2>and turn some things around. Why does he think that's

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<v Speaker 2>that's not happening today in real life?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well again, what they would do is.

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<v Speaker 2>Double down on support for the people who have them

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<v Speaker 2>under their thumb or that, because what it sounds like

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<v Speaker 2>here is that while that country was was filled with sick,

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<v Speaker 2>poor people, he's leaving out that someone's in charge, and

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<v Speaker 2>the people in charge would be very wealthy. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's and those people in charge will be very wealthy.

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<v Speaker 2>By convincing the people who are not in charge it

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<v Speaker 2>is not his fault or not their fault that things

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<v Speaker 2>are so bad like they're doing right now in real life.

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<v Speaker 1>They would convince them that some other source, because.

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<v Speaker 2>They're kind of are to Americas. Now another problem, right,

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<v Speaker 2>The thing that happened in the wake of nine to

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<v Speaker 2>eleven September eleventh, two thousand and one, was that our

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<v Speaker 2>then Republican president, who and this is objective fact, did

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<v Speaker 2>not respond fantastically to that situation, could have been prepared,

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<v Speaker 2>but ignored information and data coming from analysts after the fact.

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<v Speaker 2>Found someone to other, because that's what we're really good at.

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<v Speaker 2>Found an entire group of people to other. And for

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<v Speaker 2>a very brief amount of time, we were the United

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<v Speaker 2>States of America. Even if that was united in bigotry

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<v Speaker 2>and hate and fear, we were united. We had an enemy,

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<v Speaker 2>we had someone to point to, we had someone to blame,

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<v Speaker 2>and we got to look at each other as brothers

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<v Speaker 2>and sisters as we were either scared or hateful. You

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<v Speaker 2>were one of the other, as you waved your flag

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<v Speaker 2>and singing the Star Spangled banners. Start to feel a

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<v Speaker 2>little different, even if temporarily because you were afraid of

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<v Speaker 2>a group of people or because you hated a group

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<v Speaker 2>of people, or both. Since then, and maybe not since

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<v Speaker 2>that moment, but now this is very very much two

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<v Speaker 2>different Americas, with two different agendas, with two different points

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<v Speaker 2>of view.

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<v Speaker 1>Two different sets of facts, two.

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<v Speaker 2>Different sets of values. We are not united in our

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<v Speaker 2>request against anything. The most vulnerable and weak our country

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<v Speaker 2>has ever been. Now that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>Ever because we see one another as the enemy. Isn't

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<v Speaker 1>that weird?

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<v Speaker 2>So we see one another as the enemy. So why

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<v Speaker 2>in this story does he believe that things would get

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<v Speaker 2>so bad that one side would ever look at the

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<v Speaker 2>other side and say, you know what, you guys are

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<v Speaker 2>doing this thing better than we are.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Because, and I'll add to that, there's there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of countries around the world where they do a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of things better than the United States, and we

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<v Speaker 1>don't try. Well. There are some of some at least liberals,

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<v Speaker 1>that that point to those countries as examples, the countries

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<v Speaker 1>like Finland and in Switzerland and so forth.

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<v Speaker 2>And social problem with pointing at any other country. You

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<v Speaker 2>just said one of those bad words socialist our country

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<v Speaker 2>and those imposers problem want to keep us weak and poor,

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<v Speaker 2>have turned those those type of governments and to bad words.

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<v Speaker 2>There are people in this country that hear the words

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<v Speaker 2>socialist and think that it's a bad word. They have

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<v Speaker 2>no idea what it means. Yeah, they are socialists. They

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<v Speaker 2>hear communists. They hear anything that's not democracy and capitalists,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's a bad word. So it could not be better.

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<v Speaker 2>So the idea that you could get sick and go

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<v Speaker 2>to the doctor and get help, help is without being rich,

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<v Speaker 2>should sound great to everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>It feels scary to them. Yeah, So here's let me

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<v Speaker 1>make sure that I'm very clear. I know that when

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<v Speaker 1>I when I mentioned like Finland and Switzerland, places like that,

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<v Speaker 1>those are capitalistic countries with very robust.

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<v Speaker 2>Socialist program as is Canada a much closer, a great

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<v Speaker 2>example to and I know that socialism and socialist programs

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<v Speaker 2>are kind of.

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<v Speaker 1>The enemy of you know, our brothers and sisters who

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<v Speaker 1>are in the Republican Party. However, the point I was

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<v Speaker 1>making was to bolster your point, which is, we have

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<v Speaker 1>clear examples of countries that are doing great things. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>they've they've socialized health care, they've they've done a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of things that really make the citizens on the ground,

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<v Speaker 1>the people that live in the countries, the human beings

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<v Speaker 1>and the environment, the animals and the trees and so

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<v Speaker 1>forth better. And so with those examples, certainly a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of books on the right will ignore those examples and

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<v Speaker 1>continue to double and triple down on what they're doing.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think you're right in that they might ignore

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<v Speaker 1>the liberal side of things that he's that he.

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<v Speaker 2>Mentioned no question, our leaders, and this is just subjective fact.

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<v Speaker 2>Our leaders in general have prioritized profit and capitalist endeavors

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<v Speaker 2>over well being of the citizen. For sure, that's a

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<v Speaker 2>fact across the shore. But our Republican leaders have done

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<v Speaker 2>that to a far more extreme end and continue to

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<v Speaker 2>do so.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's do this. Let's I want to make a distinction.

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<v Speaker 1>It might be a very small distinction, but I want

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<v Speaker 1>to make a distinction between Republicans and conservatives. This show

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<v Speaker 1>was started in Phoenix, Arizona in twenty twenty. That was

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<v Speaker 1>the first place to give us a home. KKFR Power

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<v Speaker 1>ninety eight point three, the first person outside of Phoenix,

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<v Speaker 1>Arizona that welcomed our show and allowed our show to

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<v Speaker 1>be syndicated. That birthed the Now we're on seventy five

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<v Speaker 1>radio stations around the country, sharing these concepts and hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>creating better allies out of you, our listeners. First person

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<v Speaker 1>that give us a green light and allow us to

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<v Speaker 1>air this show is a man named Steve, and Steve

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<v Speaker 1>has mentioned to me that he is a conservative man,

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<v Speaker 1>and I had to wrestle with that because I'm about

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<v Speaker 1>as left as they come. Well, I guess I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>as left as they come, but you know, I'm like

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<v Speaker 1>bleeding heart liberal with mine, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to help the world. I think we can

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<v Speaker 1>all make it rainbows and butterflies and unicorns. This is

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<v Speaker 1>what you calls me, and has called me that for years.

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<v Speaker 1>But I really do believe that that's the best way

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<v Speaker 1>to be, you know, to be kind to each other,

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<v Speaker 1>to love each other, and to refer to each other

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<v Speaker 1>as brothers and sisters, because it reminds us that we're

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<v Speaker 1>all kind of playing the same game here and we

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<v Speaker 1>can go a lot further together. Right. This is just ramses,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And Steve is a more conservative guy, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And yet and still he saw his brother trying to

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<v Speaker 1>do something for his people, and he says he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even just say, yeah, it's fine, go ahead and do

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<v Speaker 1>it because of the cultural climate. He said, I love

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<v Speaker 1>the show, How can I invest more into it? Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm going to go back even further. Sorry Steve

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<v Speaker 1>for putting your political beliefs out there on the radio,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know it happened that way, and we love you. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to go back further, if I'm not mistaken.

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<v Speaker 1>My birth mother was a conservative, right She was a

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<v Speaker 1>preacher's wife. She loved her from Jesus, and she found

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<v Speaker 1>herself kind of having more conservative beliefs right now. She

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<v Speaker 1>was not a Republican. She didn't, or let me say,

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<v Speaker 1>she did not vote Republican as far as I know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I didn't spend a lot of time with her.

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<v Speaker 1>She left my life when I was very young, but

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<v Speaker 1>well not very young, but young enough before I started

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<v Speaker 1>paying attention to these sorts of things. But she was

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<v Speaker 1>admittedly a conservative person. And she was black, not quite

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<v Speaker 1>as black as I am, but black. She lived the

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<v Speaker 1>reality of a black woman, you know. And I know

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<v Speaker 1>lots of black people who feel the same way. And

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<v Speaker 1>I know lots of non black people who are just

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<v Speaker 1>very conservative, very traditional, traditional values, these sorts of things,

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<v Speaker 1>and their only option, well not their only option, but

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<v Speaker 1>the option that they feel is closest to that way

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<v Speaker 1>of thinking is the Republican Party. And it's like if

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<v Speaker 1>I was to say, I'm not a fan of Joe Biden,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm going to vote for him. I could see

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<v Speaker 1>a similar thing happening from folks on that side saying,

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<v Speaker 1>I am not that this Republican Party is not I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not a fan of this Republican party, but that's the

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<v Speaker 1>only option, and I'm going to vote Republican. I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>conservative person. I believe in conservative values. I believe in

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<v Speaker 1>this and and the third and so I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere in there is the dividing line between a Republican

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<v Speaker 1>and a conservative, and I don't know where that is,

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<v Speaker 1>but I do know that there are some people who,

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<v Speaker 1>based on their walk through life, they are nothing like

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<v Speaker 1>a Donald Trump figure. They don't like a Donald Trump figure.

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<v Speaker 1>They actively work against the Donald Trump figure. And yet

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<v Speaker 1>they are conservative people and their only option to vote

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<v Speaker 1>based on their conservative beliefs is Republicans. So they either

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<v Speaker 1>vote Republican, which is a vote for Donald Trump, or

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<v Speaker 1>they don't vote because they do not espouse a more

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<v Speaker 1>progressive liberal philosophy. And in the same way that I

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<v Speaker 1>don't espouse a conservative philosophy. It's a weird place to be.

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<v Speaker 2>This is such a scary, strange place to be because

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<v Speaker 2>you have to marginalize the plight of others.

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<v Speaker 1>A whole group of people in order to get your

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<v Speaker 1>conservative vote off right or a Republican vote off.

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<v Speaker 2>Saying it might be true for both parts for both

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<v Speaker 2>parties around, though they're always there, typically true, but this

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<v Speaker 2>time around worse than ever before. Our tax dollars paid

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<v Speaker 2>during this current administration's time in office directly funding what

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<v Speaker 2>many have coined and I count us among them as genocide.

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<v Speaker 2>So typically you get to stand on the moral ground

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<v Speaker 2>of man. This this group is actively working against an entire.

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<v Speaker 1>People.

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<v Speaker 2>That being true for both parties is a crazy position

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<v Speaker 2>to be, and it's in it's almost impossible to say,

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<v Speaker 2>but hey, here at home, here at home, one party

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<v Speaker 2>is looking to disenfranchise citizens of this country. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>cruel distinction to make, but it is a distinction to make.

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<v Speaker 2>There is a group that is looking to disenfranchise citizens

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<v Speaker 2>of this country a whole.

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<v Speaker 1>And the mass.

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<v Speaker 2>But then we have brothers and sisters who are citizens

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<v Speaker 2>of this country, who are also ethnically members of our

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<v Speaker 2>brothers and sisters on the other side of the world,

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<v Speaker 2>who are dealing with some of the worst circumstances in

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<v Speaker 2>the history of humanity, funded by our current administration today.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a very very very impossible place to be

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<v Speaker 2>right now with trying to encourage anyone to participate in

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<v Speaker 2>our political landscape.

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<v Speaker 1>And yet and still the only way that Eyebramses believes

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<v Speaker 1>that it gets better is a vote for Joe Biden,

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<v Speaker 1>because it gets worse and it stays worse when you

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<v Speaker 1>vote for the politics.

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<v Speaker 2>As usual versus maybe a perpetual dictatorship.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, and we're gonna have to leave that one

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<v Speaker 1>right there. With that in mind, I'd like to thank

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<v Speaker 1>you all for tuning in to Civic Cipher once again.

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