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Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to the Wednesday edition of The Klay

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Speaker 1: Travis en Buck Sexton Show. Oh my, forty days, forty nine,

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Speaker 1: got not a lot of time here before the election.

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Speaker 1: I had to check my math on that one. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: if it's forty days, it's also forty nine. Not a

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Speaker 1: lot of time before this election, Clay, it is coming

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Speaker 1: upon us so quickly. What do we have in the

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Speaker 1: docket in the hopper for you today? We've got the

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Speaker 1: latest Kamala Harris interview scheduled tonight with Stephanie Rule of MSNBC.

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Speaker 1: We will explain why this is truly hilarious. It's even

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Speaker 1: it's even funnier that I bet most of you realize.

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Speaker 1: And we're going to tell you those details. The Kamala

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Speaker 1: hide the candidate campaign is continuing to just cover itself

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Speaker 1: in glory. We'll talk about that. We've also got Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden today on the view, and you know he's rubbing

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Speaker 1: it in a little bit. You know, I just we

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Speaker 1: just had we just had stategate. I just had to

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Speaker 1: put the credit card down and take care of business

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Speaker 1: here in Miami. And now Biden's telling everybody he would

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Speaker 1: have won. Clay you see this, we won, or rather

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Speaker 1: would still win whatever right I mean, he would win

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Speaker 1: this upcoming election if he was still in it. We

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Speaker 1: shall discuss that the DNI, the Director of National Intelligence,

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Speaker 1: which is an entirely unnecessary position created in the massive

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Speaker 1: bloat after nine to eleven, but put that aside. Director

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Speaker 1: of National Intelligence has alert of the Trump campaign of

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Speaker 1: specific and operational threats from Iran to assassinate him. We

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Speaker 1: also have updates from Butler Pennsylvania. What happened, what went

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Speaker 1: so wrong there? The absolute disaster from a secret service

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Speaker 1: perspective of Butler Pennsylvania. We have more for you on that.

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Speaker 1: We'll also get in the latest polling Clay, for example,

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Speaker 1: Morning Joe saying that Kamala was up six percent nationally.

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Speaker 1: Why even say a poll like that out loud? People

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Speaker 1: like me and you are just going to make fun

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Speaker 1: of them for it, But they did. We'll get to that.

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Speaker 1: I want to start with this Stephanie Rule stuff today

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Speaker 1: in case you missed it, This isn't in case you

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Speaker 1: missed it situation, Clay, you saw this, We've texted about this.

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Speaker 1: Stephanie Rule was on the Bill Mahers Show. Okay, she

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Speaker 1: was on the Bill Mahers show, and she was making

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Speaker 1: the case. She made the case. I should say she

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Speaker 1: made the case for a why it's totally fine that

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Speaker 1: Kamala is not appearing in interviews anywhere. This is what

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Speaker 1: some of what she said to The New York Times.

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Speaker 1: Brett Stevens play one.

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Speaker 2: Are you going to vote for Donald Trump?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 2: I'm not not running for perfect She's running against Trump.

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Speaker 2: We had two choices, and so there are some things

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Speaker 2: you might not know her answer to. And in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four, unlike twenty sixteen, for a lot of the

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Speaker 2: American people, we know exactly what Trump will do, who

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Speaker 2: he is, and the kind of threat he is to democracy.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's a lot to ask her to

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Speaker 1: sit down for a real interview as apostle of her

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Speaker 1: piece in which she describes her her feelings of growing

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Speaker 1: up and openly a nice lot.

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Speaker 2: Then I would just say to that, when you moved

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Speaker 2: to Nirvana, give me your real estate broker's number and

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Speaker 2: I'll be your nextal name.

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Speaker 1: We don't live there, Clay. This is perfect right. She's

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Speaker 1: straight up saying, look, buddy, whatever it takes for Kamala,

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Speaker 1: we don't live in Nirvana. If she has to play

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Speaker 1: this game and not do any interviews. I stand behind that,

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Speaker 1: and she is the Kamala campaign choice for the next

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Speaker 1: interview right after this. So I'm torn on this in

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Speaker 1: a couple of different directions. One I wonder if she

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Speaker 1: sold herself out on Bill Maher because the Kamala team

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Speaker 1: had already agreed to do an interview with her and

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Speaker 1: she didn't want to lose the interview. So I'm curious

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Speaker 1: which of these perspectives you would take.

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Speaker 4: Or Kamala's team saw her on Friday, just genuflecked at

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Speaker 4: the altar of Kamala's amazingness and said, that's who we

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Speaker 4: have to talk to at MSNBC. Do you think she

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Speaker 4: had the interview and she was trying to protect it

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Speaker 4: or she got it based on what she said on

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Speaker 4: mar I am all it's a fair question, a fair binary.

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Speaker 4: I am all in on option number two.

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Speaker 1: Clay. I do not believe for a second that they

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Speaker 1: would have scheduled a Stephanie Rule interview and it wouldn't

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Speaker 1: need to do something, because even Brett Stevens, who hate

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Speaker 1: Clay Brett Stevens despises Trump, and he's like, look, I

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Speaker 4: Here is something that that I think is interesting about

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Speaker 4: this interview tonight is Kamala has been so disrespectful of

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Speaker 4: left wing traditional media. She won't talk to him, She

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Speaker 4: won't answer any of their questions. That she's actually putting

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Speaker 4: these hagiographic media figures in a tough spot. Because if

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Speaker 4: Stephanie Rule does an interview and doesn't ask any questions buck,

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Speaker 4: there are twenty things that you could ask Kamala Harris

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Speaker 4: that she hasn't answered that actually are very substantive, newsworthy questions.

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Speaker 4: There's not very much you could ask Trump in comparison,

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Speaker 4: because he's basically told you what he thinks on everything.

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Speaker 4: Doesn't mean I mean we're gonna have Trump on again

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Speaker 4: on this show. We've been talking with his team sometime

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Speaker 4: in October. There are a lot of questions we will

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Speaker 4: ask him, but there aren't the glaring, wide open questions

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Speaker 4: that Kamala still has, like why did you say that

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Speaker 4: building a border wall was racist? And now you want

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Speaker 4: to build a border wall. Why did you bail out

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Speaker 4: defunding the police, right, I mean, why did you say

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Speaker 4: you opposed paper straws, Now you're for them. Why were

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Speaker 4: the death penalty? Now you can't tell us. Kamala has

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Speaker 4: tried to take every perspective on every issue, which means

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Speaker 4: there are tons of ripe questions which she could be asked.

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Speaker 4: Yet Stephanie Rule has basically already labeled herself as propaganda media,

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Speaker 4: which puts her in a really tough spot.

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Speaker 1: Does that make sense?

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Speaker 4: Like Kamala's disrespect of media has actually painted her biggest

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Speaker 4: cheerleaders into a corner, because what they should do is

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Speaker 4: ask questions of someone who wants the most powerful job

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Speaker 4: sene and that looks too much even for regular people

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Speaker 1: Look, it would be preposterous if President Trump hadn't done

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Speaker 1: any interview. I mean, I know this is alternate uni

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Speaker 1: vers stuff, right, we all understandident Trump where we are. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it would be preposterous if President Trump, first of all,

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Speaker 1: the candidate in the middle of the summer, right before

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Speaker 1: so far right and then in response to pressure would say,

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Speaker 1: all right, fine, I'm going to do a hard hitting

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Speaker 1: interview with Clay and Buck. Now I'll just use us

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Speaker 1: as an example. Yeah, we asked the president, We asked

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Speaker 1: President Trump real questions. But we are both on record

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Speaker 1: vociferously as Trump voters wanting Trump to win and advocating

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Speaker 1: for him publicly to win, which I believe is just

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Speaker 1: the entirely honest position that really everyone of media should have.

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Speaker 1: Who are you pushing for? Don't play the game, Clay,

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Speaker 1: she is a Comma up partisan. Yeah, and in response

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Speaker 1: to she won't do any interviews that probe who she is.

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Speaker 1: She's sitting down with an avowed Kamala partisan. It's absurd

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Speaker 1: and it's embarrassing, not only for the Kamala Harris campaign,

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Speaker 1: but I think it really puts this journalist or opinionist

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Speaker 4: There are twenty questions that at least are outstanding about

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Speaker 4: where Kamala comes down on a variety of different perspectives

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Speaker 4: out there that she legitimately hasn't answered. And this journalist

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Speaker 4: in quotation Marks brags about how you shouldn't hold Kamala

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Speaker 4: accountable and it doesn't matter what she says because she's

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Speaker 4: not Trump. And then she gets the interview and buck

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Speaker 4: All Stephanie Ruhle did on Bill Maher's show would say

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Speaker 4: what the majority of Kamala Harris's voters actually believe. They're

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Speaker 4: not voting for Kamala Harris, just like they didn't vote

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Speaker 4: for Joe Biden. They're voting against Trump seventy five to

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Speaker 4: eighty percent. Then at least of Kamala's voters and Joe

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Speaker 4: Biden's voters are not supporters of theirs. It's why you

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Speaker 4: don't see anybody with a Kamala hat, why you don't

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Speaker 4: see anybody with a Biden hat. It's all anti Trump

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Speaker 4: dogma that they have bought into. And I think Clay

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Speaker 4: this is summed up very well.

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Speaker 1: You know, there are some Democrat phrases quotes that have

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Speaker 1: always stayed with me, especially since I've been working in

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Speaker 1: this world of politics and commentary. There's Obama's elections have consequences, which,

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Speaker 1: say what you will, that was a warning of what

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Speaker 1: was to come. Right, It's true elections do have consequences.

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Speaker 1: But there was also Harry Reid. As you and I

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Speaker 1: have talked about this one, Harry Reid just made up

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Speaker 1: a completely absurd line. I mean, Mitt Romney is a

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Speaker 1: And yet Harry Reid said that Mitt Romney hadn't paid

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Speaker 1: And then when Mitt Romney lost, what did Harry Reid say?

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Speaker 1: He didn't win, did he? The point is he knew

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Speaker 1: Clay to your point about who they're voting for and

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Speaker 1: how they're viewing it. Whatever with their attitude is whatever

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Speaker 4: I will say, the suddenness with which she is doing

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Speaker 4: what they do, not what they say. Her polling has

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Speaker 4: her losing, Buck and her polling has her losing. And

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Speaker 4: the difficult spot they're in is the record reflects that

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Speaker 4: the more people see Kamala, the less they like her.

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Speaker 4: And they were able to hide her from July twenty first,

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Speaker 4: than that strange sit down lifeguard in interview with Dana

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Speaker 4: she's otherwise done a lot of local news interviews that

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Speaker 4: don't push her very much. She's sitting down with a

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Speaker 4: propagandist here and I don't know if you find this

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Speaker 4: as interesting as I do.

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Speaker 1: Buck.

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Speaker 4: But suddenly Joe Biden is back on the media circuit.

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Speaker 4: They hid Biden for several months, but now he went

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Speaker 4: on We're going to play some audio for you. He

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Speaker 4: went on the View today. He's been holding He had

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Speaker 4: That feels to me, and I haven't seen it written yet,

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Speaker 4: but it feels to me like a little bit of

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Speaker 4: a shot across the bow at Kamala Harris by Biden

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Speaker 4: because it ties them together. He went on the View

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Speaker 4: today and said, I love Kamala because she stands for

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Speaker 4: everything that I believe in. She's just an extension of me,

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Speaker 4: which is the talking point the Trump team would love.

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Speaker 1: For him to have. We have to get more into

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Speaker 1: this interview on the View with Biden, because first of all,

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Speaker 1: He's supposed to say. I stepped aside because I knew

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Speaker 1: of Trump. You know, if January sixth is so bad,

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Speaker 1: the worst attack since the Civil War, why can't you

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Speaker 1: just let the American people then have their referendum and

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Speaker 1: whether they think it was so bad? Why do you

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Speaker 1: have to have all the sham trials? Why do you

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Speaker 1: have the you know, the civil trials and the criminal trials,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, There's something bizarre about all

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Speaker 1: of that. Because if it's so clear to you that

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Speaker 1: this was such an all that January sixth was so

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Speaker 1: awful that it makes Trump unacceptable, well, won't the American

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Speaker 1: people find that way? The answer we all know it was.

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Speaker 1: Of course, the American people don't think that. Journals think that,

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Speaker 1: and Democrats who hate Trump and people Trump derangement syndrome

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Speaker 1: think it was the worst attack since, you know, since

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Speaker 1: the Civil War. Whatever.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I just I look at this buck and

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Speaker 4: I can't escape the conclusion that Kamala Harris's campaign is

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Speaker 4: really starting to flounder. And I can't stop laughing about

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Speaker 4: Biden's team going to argue either. I saw our good

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Speaker 4: friend Moron Sunny hostin on the View compared Biden to

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Speaker 4: George Washington. But that's really what they're going to try

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Speaker 4: to roll with if Kamala Harris wins, but if she loses,

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Speaker 4: and I do think she's gonna lose, it's going to

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Speaker 4: be one of the most epic election nights and election

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Speaker 4: weeks that we have ever seen because Democrats are going

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Speaker 4: to turn on each other with a fury and everything

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Speaker 4: we've been saying on this program, Wait, are we sure

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Speaker 4: we want to elevate the least popular vice presidential candidate

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Speaker 4: of all time? Does it really make sense to have

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Speaker 4: somebody as our nominee who's never gotten a vote? You

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Speaker 4: know what else is gonna get dissected in a big way.

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Speaker 4: Buck Tim Walls as the VP over Josh Shapiro is

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Speaker 4: one of the most If she loses Pennsylvania by twenty

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Speaker 4: five or thirty thousand votes, as she might, it will

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Speaker 4: be seen as one of the most catastrophic vice presidential

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Speaker 4: choices of all time. Now, you may be right that

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Speaker 4: jos Shapiro wasn't that excited to hit hitch his cart

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Speaker 4: to Kamala Harris's campaign, But I just get I get

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Speaker 4: giddy just thinking about how this is all going to

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Speaker 4: play out.

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Speaker 1: I was wondering about this because the Hillary. One of

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Speaker 1: my great regrets is that I was so elated in

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Speaker 1: twenty sixteen when Trump won and had to just find

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Speaker 1: my friends who were conservative so we because it was

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Speaker 1: I mean, I lived in I lived in the Flatiron

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Speaker 1: District of New York. You were close to Hillary's celebration party.

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Speaker 1: My big regret is that I just didn't think, dude,

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Speaker 1: go over there, right. I could have walked. I could

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Speaker 1: have walked to the Javits Convention Center and just seen

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Speaker 1: the wreckage of the hopes and dreams of the Hillary

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Speaker 1: campaign they were all because I heard later they were

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Speaker 1: all crying, and you know, all the male feminists were crying,

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Speaker 1: and you know they were asking their wives to hold them.

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Speaker 1: And anyway, I wish I had gone to see that.

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Speaker 1: Do you know where Kamala's campaign headquarters is? I had

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Speaker 1: to look this up, so I'm not trying to put

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Speaker 1: you well, they kept it in Delaware, right, because kept

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Speaker 1: it in Wilmington, Delaware, which I don't even you know,

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Speaker 1: you don't hear much about that. I've taken a train through.

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Speaker 1: I've never been in Wilmington, Delaware. There's a part of

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Speaker 1: me that's like, man, it might be kind of fun

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Speaker 1: to be at the Kamala headquarters or with an earshot

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Speaker 1: of it on election night, but it'd be really sad

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Speaker 1: if you're there and they're actually very happy because she won.

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Speaker 1: So that's a dangerous game to play. Story just breaking buck,

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Speaker 1: This is interesting. I mean, it's not groundbreaking, but Kamala

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Speaker 1: Harris says she owns a handgun. In two thousand and five,

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Speaker 1: she wanted handguns mandatory confiscated in San Francisco. Do you

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Speaker 1: think she actually owns a handgun? I don't. I'm going

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Speaker 1: to tell you this, Yeah, I I do. I do

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Speaker 1: not believe her, and the things will never really be

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Speaker 1: able to you know. It's she could say that she

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Speaker 1: bought it from somebody in a private sale or something.

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Speaker 1: There's always ways around this. I don't know. I don't

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Speaker 1: believe it. Do you believe it?

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Speaker 4: The only reason I think she might have had a

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Speaker 4: handgun is because she will use the DA. Yeah, because

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Speaker 4: like DA's you know, they they.

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Speaker 1: If she had if she had it, well, here's what

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Speaker 1: I would say. I do not believe that she went

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Speaker 1: of her own accord to buy a handgun as a

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Speaker 1: private citizen. If she has a handgun, it's a leave

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Speaker 1: behind from when she's the DA. And I would say

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Speaker 1: I would bet money that she has not been to

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Speaker 1: a shooting range in I don't know, five years. Wouldn't

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Speaker 1: there be a video of her somewhere shooting. If she

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Speaker 1: actually had a handgun like that, she wouldit instead of

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Speaker 1: somebody just giving her a gun in a case that

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Speaker 1: she put in her car and just kind of drove

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Speaker 1: around with or whatever. You know, well, if if somebody

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Speaker 1: asked me, hey, Bud, if the fuck are you a

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Speaker 1: gun owner? Be like am I a gun owner?

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Speaker 7: Like?

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Speaker 1: Oh man, I was like, I got I've got my

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Speaker 1: the guns and all the all the optics and all.

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Speaker 1: This is what people own guns can do because they

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Speaker 1: actually pay attention to this stuff. I wish they had

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Speaker 1: said what kind of gun do you have? Well, I

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Speaker 1: think Trump because she would have said one of the

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Speaker 1: ones that goes bang. You know, she has no idea.

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Speaker 1: I think you're right on that. We'll read into some

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Speaker 1: Trump a liar for saying that she wanted to take

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Speaker 1: away people's guns. In two thousand and five. She would

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Speaker 1: have she supported the banning of buying, selling, or possessing

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Speaker 1: handguns in San Francisco. She was going to take people's

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Speaker 1: guns away in San Francisco. It's crazy. We'll dive into

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Speaker 1: that here in just a second. I just mentioned Barckreek

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Speaker 1: Welcome back into play inbox. So we've got the news today.

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Speaker 1: Just a quick recap. Kamala Harris tonight seven Eastern the

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Speaker 1: Ultimate puff Piece interview on the Way with Stephanie Rule

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Speaker 1: of MSNBC, who is an avowed Kamala partisan and specifically

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Speaker 1: justifies her dodging the media policy just a few days ago.

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Speaker 1: So I'm sure she's gonna ask the pro big questions.

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Speaker 1: She's gonna say, Hey, when you were on that debate

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Speaker 1: stage and Trump said, uh, you won't oppose abortion in

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Speaker 1: the sixth, seventh, eighth, or ninth month, can you answer

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Speaker 1: that one for us? Would you would you would you

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Speaker 1: sign a law that said abortion is legal in all

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Speaker 1: fifty states if it's illegal in the third trimester in

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Speaker 1: all fifty states? Would you do that she's not gonna

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Speaker 1: ask any questions even in the universe of that, it's

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Speaker 1: all gonna be some people have questions about your awesomeness,

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Speaker 1: and I'm just like, I'm just like here to get

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Speaker 1: to the bottom, Kamala of like why you're so amazing?

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Speaker 1: And I just want to give people like literally the

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Speaker 1: chance to know why you're so great? What do you think?

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Speaker 1: I think that actually is probably how the interview is

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Speaker 1: gonna go. I might even have quoted her before she

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Speaker 1: quotes herself. Stephanie Rule, having watched enough MSNBC, I know,

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Speaker 1: I know the cadence, I know the tone, I know

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Speaker 1: how they roll clay. It's gonna be It's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a joke. And then Biden today is on the view.

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Speaker 1: Would you want to you want to?

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Speaker 4: I was just gonna say to me, if we had

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Speaker 4: honest journalists, which we do not, at a minimum, wouldn't

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Speaker 4: you demand that the entire interview be played without edits

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Speaker 4: if you were Stephanie Rule. Every time that we have

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Speaker 4: had Donald Trump on this show, every single minute has

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Speaker 4: been played live for all of you, and we've interviewed

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Speaker 4: Trump like what do you think five or six times

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Speaker 4: at least on this show, Buck, We have never ever

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Speaker 4: edited anything that Trump said in our interview, and whatever

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Speaker 4: you think of him, we have brought it directly to you.

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Speaker 4: I don't think in three and a half years of

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Speaker 4: interviews that we've ever edited any interview that we've ever done. Occasionally,

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Speaker 4: very rarely, we will tape an interview because somebody can't

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Speaker 4: If MSNBC were just remotely committed to journalistic ethics, they

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Speaker 4: even know how long the interview was. They did jump

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Speaker 4: cuts in their interview with Kamala Harris. Did they let

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Speaker 4: Kamala's team ask that things be left out of the

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Speaker 4: interview put on the cutting room floor?

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Speaker 1: We don't know.

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Speaker 4: But if I ran MSNBC and I was at least

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Speaker 4: committed to any form of journalism, I would totally insist

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Speaker 4: on everything being aired that she answers in response to

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Speaker 4: our questions, wouldn't you? I mean, for better or worse

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Speaker 4: for both the host and the and the interviewer. They're

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Speaker 4: not going to do it, but that seems like the

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Speaker 4: bare minimum if you were trying to do in any

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Speaker 1: We should just reiterate this, say it out loud. The

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Speaker 1: understood rules of this game for all Democrats is whatever

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Speaker 1: it takes. You have no ethics, there are no rules.

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Speaker 1: Whatever it takes for Trump to be defeated, for Kamala

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Speaker 1: Harris to win, is what you're supposed to do it.

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Speaker 1: It's the table stakes, table stakes for your career. You

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Speaker 1: deviate from that, you're done. And everybody knows that right

652
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Speaker 1: now on the Democrat side. So you're not going to

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Speaker 1: see anyone suddenly develop a spine or a conscience or

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Speaker 1: integrity who's a Democrat. It's just not going to happen.

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Speaker 1: I think, Clay. This is also a moment of some

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Speaker 1: panic for the Democrats, and that's why they have this

657
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Speaker 1: pretense that the polls or you know, they're all saying, now, O,

658
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Speaker 1: it's neck and neck. Oh we're up by six. No,

659
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Speaker 1: the numbers look pretty bad for Kamala and Joe Biden.

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Speaker 1: They have to be aware of this. Here's what Joe

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Speaker 1: Biden says. We all understand, right what he's supposed to

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Speaker 1: say is, you know, I did my best for the country,

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Speaker 1: blah blah. But you know, Kamala is the next generational leadership,

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Speaker 1: and I couldn't argue with the polls and she's gonna win.

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Speaker 1: What he did say was cut three here, which was

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Speaker 1: something else?

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Speaker 3: Did you feel that your hand was forced?

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Speaker 2: And what's your relationship with Speaker Pelosi?

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 5: The relationship is fine.

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Speaker 1: Look, I.

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Speaker 5: I never fully believed the assertions that somehow there was

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Speaker 5: this overwhelming reluctance of my running again. I didn't sense that.

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Speaker 5: And although the polling and I said Biden's polling was different,

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Speaker 5: the fact of the matter is my Polly was about,

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Speaker 5: you know, we're always within range of beating this guy.

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Speaker 5: But what I did was I think there were It

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Speaker 5: makes sense there are some folks who like to see

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Speaker 5: me step aside so they have a chance to move on.

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Speaker 5: I get that that's just human nature. But that wasn't

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Speaker 5: the reason that I stepped down.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Clay, what's the reason if you thought the polls

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Speaker 1: were fine and he thought he could win while he

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Speaker 1: stepped down.

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Speaker 4: No, and now he's contradicting himself as he goes out

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Speaker 4: and does all these interviews. Because maybe we could pull

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Speaker 4: his George Stepanopol interview where he said he's staying in

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Speaker 4: to drop out. And that's if he came down from

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Speaker 4: the heavens and told him. That's what he said, Buck,

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Speaker 4: And that's what he said. A week after basically the debate,

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Speaker 4: if I remember correctly, he did that Friday interview.

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Speaker 1: I feel like the debate was on a Tuesday issue.

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Speaker 4: And then he came in on Friday and sat down

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Speaker 4: with George Stepanopolis in like a hastily organized interview to

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Speaker 4: try to put out the fires that had started on

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Speaker 4: June twenty seventh. And now he's saying, hey, the polls

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Speaker 4: would reflect that I would win. I'm telling you, Buck,

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Speaker 4: if she loses, this is going to be so much fun.

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Speaker 4: I get giddy just thinking about it. They are going

701
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Speaker 4: to throw Kamala Harris and her team under the bus,

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Speaker 4: the likes of which you had never seen before. They're

703
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Speaker 4: gonna point to the results and say Biden would have

704
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Speaker 4: won in twenty four like he did in twenty but

705
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:01,800
Speaker 4: they panicked. They brought out the long knives. Nancy Pelosi

706
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Speaker 4: was wrong, Chuck Schumer was wrong, Kamala Harris was wrong.

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Speaker 4: The revenge of Joe Biden is going to be if

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Speaker 4: Kamala loses, that he would have won, and buck he

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Speaker 4: gets to play it both ways.

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Speaker 1: Think about this.

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Speaker 4: If Kamala wins, then he's George Washington, the elegant statesman

712
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Speaker 4: who passes the baton to the next generation. Joe Biden

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Speaker 4: is creating a scenario. Just think about this where heads

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Speaker 4: he wins and tails you lose. He's gonna claim victory

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Speaker 4: no matter what happens on election night. I actually think

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Speaker 4: the well short of being right right alongside President Trump

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Speaker 4: for the win, just though, in terms of the high drama,

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Speaker 4: to be able to be in this White House or wherever,

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Speaker 4: at the beach House, which is probably where Biden will

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Speaker 4: be on election night, and be around Joe and his

721
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Speaker 4: team as these numbers come in and we really get

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Speaker 4: a sense as to what's going on, because I don't

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Speaker 4: think they'd be I think that they would be torn,

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Speaker 4: and I don't think they'd be able to hide it.

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Speaker 1: That there would be a lot of them who would

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Speaker 1: be really happy, especially if you thought you were going

727
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Speaker 1: to have a great job under Biden term too. Remember

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Speaker 1: it's never just the president everybody, it's the people around

729
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Speaker 1: the president. It's his team, it's his handlers, it's his appointees.

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Speaker 1: Some of them can stick around, sure, but a lot

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Speaker 1: of them, even if they keep their role, are going

732
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Speaker 1: to lose their access and lose their influence. And if

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Speaker 1: you live in DC, clin I have both been DC

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Speaker 1: creatures at different points in our lives. That's all anybody

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Speaker 1: in DC who's in the system and the swamp cares

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Speaker 1: about is their access. So there's a whole chorus of

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Speaker 1: people around Biden who are pissed off totally.

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Speaker 4: There's going to be a lot of Shoden freud to

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Speaker 4: what you're saying as those election results come in. In particular,

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Speaker 4: if what you and I think is going to happen

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Speaker 4: in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin happens, because I think the

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Speaker 4: Biden people would acknowledge they were struggling in North Carolina,

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Speaker 4: in Georgia and in Arizona. I think in Nevada, I

744
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Speaker 4: think they would say, hey, that was going to be tough.

745
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Speaker 4: But I think they believe they would have pulled out

746
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Speaker 4: the bull the blue wall, that Scranton Joe could have

747
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Speaker 4: gotten the team together one more time, and that he

748
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Speaker 4: could have found a way to get those older, high

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Speaker 4: school educated Midwestern what I call the Big ten college

750
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Speaker 4: football fan base that have Steelers, the Eagles, those guys

751
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Speaker 4: that he could have gotten them out one more time

752
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Speaker 4: and that they would have picked him over Trump. And

753
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Speaker 4: I think what you're seeing, I really do, is their

754
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Speaker 4: nervous because those people are not showing up for Kamala.

755
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Speaker 4: And we're going to talk with Ryan Gurdusky. He actually

756
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Speaker 4: had a really good piece diving into the math. The

757
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Speaker 4: only way the math works for Kamala, I think buck

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Speaker 4: is if she were going to turn out minority voters

759
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Speaker 4: at a much higher rate than Biden. I don't think

760
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Speaker 4: it's reflecting that she is. And I think this focus

761
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Speaker 4: on abortion is a sign of her desperation because it's

762
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Speaker 4: kind of like them giving up on men, and they're

763
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Speaker 4: just trying to do whatever they can to get eighteen

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Speaker 4: to forty year old women who are abortion is their

765
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Speaker 4: number one issue. They have been terrified to believe that

766
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Speaker 4: if they try to have an abortion, Donald Trump himself

767
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 4: is going to show up on their front step and

768
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Speaker 4: drag them out by their hair. I mean, that's literally

769
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Speaker 4: what they're trying to sell to the American public, to

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Speaker 4: these younger, emotional women associated with abortion. The fact that

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Speaker 4: she went on in Wisconsin yesterday and said, Hey, we

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Speaker 4: need a national We need to end the filibuster in

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Speaker 4: order to make Roe v. Wade the national law of

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Speaker 4: the land. They are desperate. And what's interesting, Gerdusky's got

775
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Speaker 4: a piece up and I can't wait to talk to

776
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Speaker 4: him because you know, I kind of nerd out on

777
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Speaker 4: the data, and that's why I'm so excited to see

778
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Speaker 4: what the exit polls end up showing when we've got

779
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Speaker 4: a real tally as opposed to all these predictions. He says,

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Speaker 4: Kammo is not doing that much better with women than

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Speaker 4: Hillary did. If that's true, oh boy, because Trump is

782
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Speaker 4: doing a lot better with men than I think he

783
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Speaker 4: has at any point in his career. Twenty sixteen, twenty

784
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 4: twenty is actually a really interesting buck front page article

785
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:08,399
Speaker 4: New York Times today saying men are going to church now,

786
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Speaker 4: young men, at infinitely higher rates than women, and they've

787
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 4: never seen this happen before. We've got a major cultural

788
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 4: shift going on, and I think Kamala is in danger

789
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Speaker 4: of being the victim of it from an electoral perspective.

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Speaker 1: I just I keep reiterating it. I firmly believe it,

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Speaker 1: and a lot of them are listening right now. Dudes

792
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Speaker 1: who swing a hammer, drive a truck, lift heavy things,

793
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Speaker 1: put heavy things down for a living. They're going to

794
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Speaker 1: make sure that Trump and not Kamala Harris wins this election.

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Speaker 1: I think that's what's going to end up happening in

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Speaker 1: those swing states. They need to show up and vote

797
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Speaker 1: because they're not voting for Kamala. If you can get

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Speaker 1: If you hunt and you live in Pennsylvania or Michigan

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Speaker 4: Thinks that dude shouldn't be winning women's championships? Can they

804
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Speaker 1: Julie Kelly back with us now. She is the author

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Speaker 1: of a declassified on Substack and she's covering the hearing

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Speaker 1: that's going on with regard to January sixth. Where is

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Speaker 1: the Inspector General report on it? Julie, good to have

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Speaker 1: you back. What can you tell us about what's going

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Speaker 1: on today?

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Speaker 8: So there is finally testimony today by Department of Justice

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Speaker 8: Inspector General Michael Horowitz, who has been conducting we are

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Speaker 8: told an investigation into the dojfbi's role in the events

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Speaker 8: of January sixth. Now, every government agency from DHS, Secret Service,

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Speaker 8: Capital Police, they've all conducted, Department of Defense, they've all

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Speaker 8: conducted these internal inquiries and publisher report. The only one

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Speaker 8: missing is the one we want to most right, which

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Speaker 8: is Department of Justice and FBI. So Michael Horowitz said,

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Speaker 8: there is a draft report that is on his desk.

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Speaker 8: He will be reviewing it. It will have to go

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Speaker 8: through the classification process. Of course, it will not be

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Speaker 8: released before election day and possibly won't even be released

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Speaker 8: until after inauguration day. Now, this is of course straight

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Speaker 8: up election interferenced by the DOJ. He announced opening this

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Speaker 8: inquiry on January fifteenth, of twenty twenty one. But what

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Speaker 8: was interesting, claim Bock. He told a weaponization committee today

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Speaker 8: that he had to put a quote unquote pause on

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Speaker 8: his internal investigation so it didn't conflict with what he

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Speaker 8: called a criminal investigation. Now, what it appears that he

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Speaker 8: was referring to was the work of the j sixth

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Speaker 8: Select Committee. Because, of course, as you guys know when

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Speaker 8: we talk about all the time, the DOJ's criminal investigation

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Speaker 8: into January sixth is ongoing to this day. They're arresting

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Speaker 8: people every week, so he couldn't have been referring to

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Speaker 8: the Capital what they call it Capital Breech Prosecution and Investigation.

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Speaker 8: He was referring to the j sixth Committee. So what

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Speaker 8: the JA sixth Committee probably told him is to stand

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Speaker 8: down for eighteen months, do no investigation or inquiry or

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Speaker 8: research whatsoever while the JA sixth Committee was doing their work.

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Speaker 8: Because what he said today is, oh, yeah, we restarted

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Speaker 8: it last year, so that would have been, of course,

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Speaker 8: after the J sixth Committee folded. He also indicated that

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Speaker 8: the report will address and Chris Ray has said this

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Speaker 8: as well. His report will address the use of FBI

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Speaker 8: informants on January sixth, including those who unlawfully entered the building.

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Speaker 4: Julie, do you get the sense because I do that

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Speaker 4: Kamala's team recognized that jan six was played out and

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Speaker 4: that threats against democracy was not resonating with the general

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Speaker 4: election public. Because it feels to me like since Kamala

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Speaker 4: had come in as the nominee, I know, she kind

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Speaker 4: of occasionally will drop this is the worst day since

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Speaker 4: Civil War talk that Biden made the sort of footprint

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Speaker 4: or foundation of his campaigns. Does it feel to you

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Speaker 4: like they have sort of recognized that this is blown

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Speaker 4: up in their face and at best it's not helpful.

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Speaker 4: At worst, it actually is encouraging people to vote for Trump.

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Speaker 8: I think play the only reason why she has dropped

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Speaker 8: it as an issue is because of her own involvement

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Speaker 8: and her misrepresentations about her whereabouts on January sixth, Remember,

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Speaker 8: she was at the DMC headquarters when the alleged pipeon

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Speaker 8: was discovered at about one oh five that afternoon. She

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Speaker 8: inexplicitly left the capital after at having a a Senate

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Speaker 8: intelligence breathing. She left the capital at eleven twenty arrived

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Speaker 8: at DANC headquarters at eleven twenty five when we were

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Speaker 8: told this pipeon was sitting right outside of the building.

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Speaker 8: The DHS Inspector General said that she came within twenty

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Speaker 8: feet of this device that the FBI says was planted

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Speaker 8: the night before. But she has consistently misrepresented her whereabouts.

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Speaker 8: She still to this day in interviews, makes it sound

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Speaker 8: like she was at the Capitol when she was not,

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Speaker 8: and she has never discussed you know, think about this,

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Speaker 8: this is this would be a huge talking point for her.

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Speaker 8: I survived a near assassination attempt by a mag Obama

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Speaker 8: on January sixth, She never mentions it, she misrepresents her

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Speaker 8: whereabouts and her movements that day, and I do think

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Speaker 8: that that's primarily why she and her campaign have dropped

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Speaker 8: the issue, because she does not want to be confronted

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Speaker 8: about these questions that remain unanswered to this day.

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Speaker 1: Julie, what are the you just mentioned the questions that

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Speaker 1: are unanswered. What do you think we will be able

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Speaker 1: to finally know once this Inspector General report is released?

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Speaker 1: I mean, are there some things that will just be

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Speaker 1: unavoidable and you think will be certain to be confirmed? Goodness?

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Speaker 8: I definitely think what I've been told is a higher

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Speaker 8: number of FBI informants than, of course the public has

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Speaker 8: been led to believe. But also that has come out

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Speaker 8: in these trials. We know from the trials of the

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Speaker 8: Proud Boys and the Oak Keepers that the FBI had

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Speaker 8: numerous FBI informants embedded in those groups before and on

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Speaker 8: January sixth. I have reporting that follows a Proud Boy

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Speaker 8: FBI informant who committed appeared to commit several times on

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Speaker 8: January six including going inside the building violence violently. He

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Speaker 8: was never charged. So I do believe that Horowitz is

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Speaker 8: going to address the number and where these informants came

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Speaker 8: out of. Did they come out of all fifty six

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Speaker 8: FBI field offices. Recall that we then had of the

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Speaker 8: Washington FBI field office. Stephen d'antuano conducted a survey of

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Speaker 8: all the FBI field offices after he found out that

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Speaker 8: informants were involved in January six Of course, he already

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Speaker 8: knew that that was his public excuse. Will Michael Horowitz

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Speaker 8: then reveal the results of that internal survey that was taken,

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Speaker 8: So I definitely think that horrowists will address that. He

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Speaker 8: also talked a little bit about the Python investigation, as

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Speaker 8: you were saying, with the DMC, and what came out

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Speaker 8: today is that it appears that all the DNC security footage,

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Speaker 8: not the Capital Capital Police security footage that we've been

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Speaker 8: releasing and talking about, but the security camera installed outside

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Speaker 8: the DNC, that footage captured on January sixth from the

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Speaker 8: DNC security system has been deleted. The FBI does not

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Speaker 8: have that and apparently only has a short snippet of

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Speaker 8: security footage from the night before. So here we go,

977
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Speaker 8: you guys, again, more deleted evidence. Just the pleek with

978
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Speaker 8: service texts were deleted from twenty four officials related to

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Speaker 8: January fifth and January sixth, So I don't know if

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Speaker 8: Michael Hort was excuse me, will address the pipe on investigation,

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Speaker 8: because the FBI was believe on that, and of course

982
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Speaker 8: here we are nearly four years later, no suspect has

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Speaker 8: ever been identified or charged, and of course the media

984
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Speaker 8: is completely ignoring this now. But you know, we have

985
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Speaker 8: to keep pushing it because, as others have said, the

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Speaker 8: pipe bomb is revealed as a hoax, is what it

987
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Speaker 8: actually looks like? Then the entire January sixth narratives starts

988
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Speaker 8: to unravel.

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Speaker 4: How many FBI agents or undercover officers do you think

990
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Speaker 4: if you were setting it over under Julie do you

991
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Speaker 4: think went into the capital that day? Do you think

992
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Speaker 4: it was ten? Do you think it was one hundred?

993
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 4: Like what kind of number would you think that they

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Speaker 4: if they ever give us, What do you think based

995
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Speaker 4: on everything that you've seen surrounding this story?

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Speaker 8: So I think in terms of either informants, which are sources, right,

997
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Speaker 8: so they're not employees from the FBI, or undercover employees

998
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Speaker 8: of the FBI or all of the law enforcement agencies

999
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Speaker 8: who we know had undercover officers, DC Metro Police, Capitol Police,

1000
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Speaker 8: DHS Park Police, Secret Service. They all had either plane

1001
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Speaker 8: clothes or sort of on these undercover agents. In terms

1002
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Speaker 8: of who is inside the building, you know, probably a

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Speaker 8: few dozen, but it will be at the end of

1004
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Speaker 8: the day hundreds of undercover agents or officers or informants

1005
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Speaker 8: from all of these various agencies who were involved, not

1006
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Speaker 8: just the night before, but certainly that day, instigating violence,

1007
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Speaker 8: pushing protesters to do certain things, and probably permitting crimes.

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Speaker 8: As I said, at least we know with at least

1009
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Speaker 8: one informist, so there's still a lot to be uncovered.

1010
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Speaker 8: But I think that the JIG Report, whenever we get it,

1011
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Speaker 8: and to the extent that Marrick Garland doesn't classify that

1012
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Speaker 8: information about informants, we'll go a long way and finally

1013
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Speaker 8: answering what all of us want to know, and that

1014
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Speaker 8: is how much these agents and officers helped promote and

1015
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Speaker 8: insight what we thought happened that afternoon.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of Julie Kelly, declassified is her substack, which you

1017
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Speaker 1: can subscribe to. Julie give us the latest on another

1018
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Speaker 1: legal proceeding going on, the Judge Chuckkin acceptance of a

1019
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Speaker 1: rather lengthy brief as I understand it from Jack Smith,

1020
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Speaker 1: who is very sad over the Supreme Courts ruling. What's

1021
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Speaker 1: going on?

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Speaker 8: So, Kent, I'm just teasing you. Of course, it's not

1023
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Speaker 8: illegal proceeding at all. Right, this is a partisan political

1024
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Speaker 8: operation by Jack Smith, but of course allowed by Judge

1025
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Speaker 8: Tanya Tucks and the Obama off points if a long

1026
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Speaker 8: record of maybe anti Trump's statements in her courtroom. So

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Speaker 8: as soon as the Supreme Court ruling in Trump versus

1028
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Speaker 8: us the immunity order was received, they kicked it back

1029
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Speaker 8: to Judge chuck In, and they kicked it back with

1030
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Speaker 8: a lot of criticism about her initial handling of denying

1031
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Speaker 8: presidential immunity in the entire case, because of course the

1032
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Speaker 8: J sixth case relates to conduct by Donald Trump when

1033
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Speaker 8: she was in the White House. So she denied all

1034
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Speaker 8: forms of presidential immunity in her December twenty twenty three order.

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Speaker 8: That is how it got back to the Supreme Court.

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Speaker 8: Supreme Court Senate back to her, took out certain elements

1037
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Speaker 8: of Jetsamaths indictment for J. Six and said you need

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Speaker 8: to conduct what they called a careful evaluation and analysis

1039
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Speaker 8: of what is immune conduct and what is not. And

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Speaker 8: Chief Justice John Roberts actually on several occasions criticized her

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Speaker 8: for failing to do that the first time, for expediting

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Speaker 8: the case and not doing her due diligence while she's

1043
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Speaker 8: doing it all over again. As I said, I was

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Speaker 8: in her courtroom earlier this month, she strode into her

1045
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Speaker 8: courtroom for the new hearing with Donald Trump's team and

1046
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Speaker 8: Jacksmith and his team there like she had just won

1047
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Speaker 8: a nine to zero victory the Supreme Court, instead of

1048
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Speaker 8: being totally humiliated. So she's doing whatever she can now

1049
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Speaker 8: to get this case. It'll never get to trial, but

1050
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Speaker 8: at least allow Jack Smith to make his case. I

1051
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Speaker 8: called it a paper trial, make his case before the

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Speaker 8: American people and the media, to sort of salvage his

1053
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Speaker 8: case and explain, try to explain why the remaining elements

1054
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Speaker 8: of his new indictment are not covered by presidential immunity.

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Speaker 8: He is going to file a one hundred and eighty

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Speaker 8: page brief tomorrow. It will be under seal. Judge Chuck

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Speaker 8: Can called this brief irregular, and this brief will exceed

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Speaker 8: normal page limits by four times usually I think forty pages,

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Speaker 8: forty or fifty pages. So this is going to be

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Speaker 8: a trial, basically his trial document, his opening arguments that

1061
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Speaker 8: he would have given in a jury trial that he'll

1062
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Speaker 8: never have a chance to do that. It will contain

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Speaker 8: grand jury testimony. We're told, it will have three to

1064
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Speaker 8: zo twos from the FBI. He will be laying up

1065
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Speaker 8: this case with no opportunity for Trump's team to respond

1066
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Speaker 8: except weeks later and again in a separate filing. So

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Speaker 8: this is just again so partisan, so unfair, so against

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Speaker 8: the rule of lawn due process. But Judge Chuckkin wants

1069
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Speaker 8: to thumb her nose at the Supreme Court at Donald Trump,

1070
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Speaker 8: and she has and continues to green light whatever special council.

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Speaker 8: Jacksmith asks for.

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Speaker 4: How excited, Julie would you be to be having a

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Speaker 4: live feed of Jack Smith if Trump wins on November fifth?

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Speaker 1: Wouldn't that be amazing footage? I mean, you would know

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Speaker 1: better than anybody.

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Speaker 4: I mean, the guy has spent thousands and thousands of

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Speaker 4: hours trying to nail Trump. He's gotten rejected at every

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Speaker 4: direction he's gone, and if Trump wins, every like years

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Speaker 1: Am I wrong?

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Speaker 4: Or would you not love to have footage of Jack

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Speaker 4: Smith just I don't know if bourbon's his drink. I

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Speaker 4: don't know if vodka's his drink. I don't know if

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Speaker 4: he's just a straight water guy. But him, he's just

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Speaker 4: fulminating with rage. Julie would be I would pay. I

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Speaker 4: would pay for a live feed. I'm gonna be honest

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Speaker 4: of Jack Smith camp.

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Speaker 8: Remember the video of Ben Rhodes outside where was it

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Speaker 8: would be Jack Smith, And yes, I would pay to

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Speaker 8: do it, because look, Jack Smith is a stone cold loser.

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Speaker 8: He has a horrible record as a prosecutor, the Bob

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Speaker 8: has been reduced by the Supreme Court three times this year,

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Speaker 8: the Supreme Court. You would be hard pressed to find

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Speaker 8: a bigger loser in dlj's prosecutor history than Jacksmith. And

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Speaker 8: keep in mind too, Judge Cannon dismissed his case in July,

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Speaker 8: unconstitutionally appointed, that his appointment by Marrick Garland violated the

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Speaker 8: appointment's cause of the Constitution. So he can't get a

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Speaker 8: win anywhere, which is why Judge Chuckkin is doing whatever

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Speaker 8: let him file this brief and try to salvage at

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Speaker 4: Julie, I would give him one win because I would

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Speaker 1: He is one of the biggest losers in the Department

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