WEBVTT - Schmamma Schmia! 0:00:02.640 --> 0:00:05.160 I'm like feeling a horny in New York. Same, I'm 0:00:05.200 --> 0:00:09.920 like say that, mister okay, the person that I hooked 0:00:09.960 --> 0:00:12.920 up with last night and specifically told me that they 0:00:12.960 --> 0:00:16.599 don't want to be mentioned on my podcast. So literally 0:00:16.720 --> 0:00:19.200 the first thing you did when we recorded the episode 0:00:19.239 --> 0:00:26.880 of Your Mind, honestly, she's sheen am me no, Ma, 0:00:27.640 --> 0:00:34.720 not my name? Yo? No? What is your childngea, I 0:00:34.760 --> 0:00:39.960 am a choking you know what's going down the floor 0:00:40.120 --> 0:00:53.080 like round Welcome to Like a Virgin, the show where 0:00:53.080 --> 0:00:57.400 we give yesterday's pop culture today's takes. I'm as always 0:00:57.480 --> 0:01:01.840 roseam you, and I'm Fran Torodo. You're freakingly Fran I frequently, Fran, 0:01:02.000 --> 0:01:04.400 that sounds like a really bad, like kind of reality 0:01:04.400 --> 0:01:07.679 show that I would host. Frequently, Fran. No back to 0:01:07.920 --> 0:01:11.280 or like a or like a nineties sitcom. Frequently, Fran. 0:01:11.480 --> 0:01:13.800 That's what it's giving. It's giving like an I car. 0:01:13.920 --> 0:01:18.839 It's about a cross dressing person, yeah, who is frequently 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:23.680 presents as a woman. It's Hannah Montana. It's actually Hannah Montana, 0:01:23.800 --> 0:01:30.440 but like it's Montana, Frando Montana, oh my god, or 0:01:30.760 --> 0:01:36.839 or Hannah Montran. There's multiple ways to make it work. Oh, okay, 0:01:36.840 --> 0:01:42.000 frequently Fran coming to CBS this fall. Yes, we saw frequently, 0:01:42.120 --> 0:01:46.600 Fran frequently, Fran, Fran frequently saw you this weekend. Actually, yeah, 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:50.440 I saw Fran frequently over the past week. The first 0:01:50.440 --> 0:01:53.440 time was the surprise because we both showed up to 0:01:53.520 --> 0:01:58.760 the same film event without knowing that we were both 0:01:58.800 --> 0:02:00.440 going to be there. Yes, and we both looked at 0:02:00.440 --> 0:02:02.760 each other and we were both like, of course you're 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:05.920 here because we were there, of course to see Tony 0:02:06.000 --> 0:02:11.279 Collette's Mafia Mama, which is Tony Collette and Catherine Hardwick's 0:02:11.480 --> 0:02:15.119 month right right, Catherine Hardwick, the director of Twilight, which 0:02:15.160 --> 0:02:18.799 I was, which which you informed me as we were there. 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:21.320 She looks insane and she was there at the premiere. 0:02:21.320 --> 0:02:24.360 Everyone was there at the premiere at this very Tony 0:02:24.400 --> 0:02:28.240 Collette was there in a gown. Was there? Teresa Judice 0:02:28.320 --> 0:02:30.960 from Real Housewives of New Jersey was there with their family. 0:02:31.280 --> 0:02:34.280 We were She was actually in the row between Fran 0:02:34.360 --> 0:02:38.000 and I, So we were sharing space with Catherine Hardwick, 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:42.799 Tony Collette, and Teresa Judice in one room. Oh yeah, incredible. 0:02:43.040 --> 0:02:45.720 Just to paint the scene. Tony Collette was wearing a 0:02:45.760 --> 0:02:50.160 wedding gown pretty much like a wedding and you know, 0:02:50.280 --> 0:02:53.919 like a like a white gown. It was a white gown, 0:02:54.000 --> 0:02:57.239 a white gown with flowers and sheer elements that dragged 0:02:57.240 --> 0:02:59.840 on the floor. That's a wedding gown. I don't know. 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:02.720 Didn't read wedding to me. I had read Spring. I'm 0:03:02.760 --> 0:03:05.799 not insulting her. It's I mean, Muriel's wedding like it's 0:03:05.800 --> 0:03:07.760 a reference. Sounds a little bit like you are. No, 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:11.960 it's a reference. It's a reference, of course to Tony 0:03:12.040 --> 0:03:15.320 Kolet of your Teresa Judaice. I got to skip her 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:19.200 in the AMC concessions line because I was an a 0:03:19.280 --> 0:03:24.480 list rewards member, So that wow, very gratifying moment for me, 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:28.240 I will say, But I also just like didn't realize 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:30.840 until it wasn't only until I checked out when I 0:03:30.840 --> 0:03:32.600 like walked past her and I was like, oh my god, 0:03:32.639 --> 0:03:34.760 is that Teresa Judice? And I don't watch Jersey, so 0:03:34.800 --> 0:03:36.760 I like wasn't sure, and I was like, it could 0:03:36.840 --> 0:03:41.240 just be a woman from Jersey, very well could be, 0:03:41.640 --> 0:03:43.800 but she's so short in person. I was kind of 0:03:43.840 --> 0:03:47.720 shook by that. And then Catherine Harden, her hairline, her 0:03:47.760 --> 0:03:50.720 hairline is even shorter. Yes, oh my god, yes, she 0:03:50.760 --> 0:03:53.960 has a she has a notoriously tiny for well, we 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:56.680 we came to discover that she got she got her 0:03:56.840 --> 0:04:02.360 forehead surgically large, sturgically enlarged. I guess she got her 0:04:02.360 --> 0:04:05.840 hairline race. She she got reverse f fs is what 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:12.240 we talked about. She got she got uh f mm 0:04:12.320 --> 0:04:16.400 yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, facial mascotolism because because 0:04:16.440 --> 0:04:20.320 her forehead is small, her forehead is just freakishly feminine 0:04:20.360 --> 0:04:26.440 and danty freakishly. But we should say I loved the movie. 0:04:26.560 --> 0:04:30.960 I loved Mafia Maa. It was so fun. It's very ridiculous, 0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:36.760 very silly, very lots of action and gore. I would 0:04:36.760 --> 0:04:41.120 definitely compare it to Spy starring Melissa McCarthy, one of 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:46.760 my favorite films, and it has that similar like, you know, 0:04:47.360 --> 0:04:52.760 sort of a uh like downtrodden woman having a an 0:04:52.839 --> 0:04:56.520 action adventure. It's about this woman who discovers that she 0:04:56.600 --> 0:05:00.279 has ties to a mafia family in Italy and she 0:05:00.520 --> 0:05:03.520 becomes the dawn of the family and is just like 0:05:04.160 --> 0:05:08.200 weirdly good at it. It was super fun and I 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:11.200 love like movies like that that don't take themselves too 0:05:11.240 --> 0:05:14.560 seriously and it just I had a great time watching it. 0:05:14.680 --> 0:05:17.640 Ye did you like it? I? Well, uh, before, I 0:05:17.680 --> 0:05:21.440 mean I liked it. I thought it delivered what it promised, 0:05:22.880 --> 0:05:29.680 just in the whack a doodleness of it. And I 0:05:29.680 --> 0:05:32.320 I mean my favorite I love underdog tropes in any 0:05:32.480 --> 0:05:34.880 in any forms. So like, yeah, this like use of 0:05:35.000 --> 0:05:38.560 like mousey, soft spoken woman who like doesn't control her life, 0:05:38.680 --> 0:05:44.160 like kind of stumbles into you know, being a high 0:05:44.240 --> 0:05:48.960 profile like you know, dangerous woman. And I yeah, it 0:05:49.080 --> 0:05:50.880 is very much so like Spy. And I didn't really 0:05:50.960 --> 0:05:54.520 draw that comparison until we got some of this kind 0:05:54.600 --> 0:05:59.400 of absurdist violence. And and to me, the absurdest violence 0:05:59.640 --> 0:06:01.680 was the best part of the movie. I thought it 0:06:01.720 --> 0:06:05.200 was like so funny. I immediately saw a Spy. I 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:07.239 was like, now this is the movie that I wanted 0:06:07.240 --> 0:06:09.120 to see. And I think I think I was just 0:06:09.720 --> 0:06:13.800 I personally so I liked it. Is it a movie 0:06:13.800 --> 0:06:17.599 I would like totally recommend. I didn't think it was 0:06:17.600 --> 0:06:19.320 that funny. I think it was the issue. I thought 0:06:19.320 --> 0:06:21.480 the physical comedy was funny, and I thought that the 0:06:21.600 --> 0:06:23.960 violence was really really funny, but I didn't think that 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:28.080 jokes were that funny and I kind of just wanted 0:06:28.120 --> 0:06:31.479 a little bit more for a bit, but like, but 0:06:31.520 --> 0:06:33.240 I love I mean it's like, how could you not 0:06:33.320 --> 0:06:37.000 love a movie called Mafia Mama. It's called Mafia MoMA, 0:06:37.120 --> 0:06:40.000 Like it's a mama and she, you know, is in 0:06:40.120 --> 0:06:42.920 charge of the mafia and she has this her Tony 0:06:43.000 --> 0:06:47.719 Klutz character is this kind of like midwestern like white girl, 0:06:48.040 --> 0:06:51.560 like bright, bubbly, like how would you describe her? Like 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:55.000 it was such an interesting you know, she's just like 0:06:55.279 --> 0:07:00.120 a very normy, middle aged woman, a in a in 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:03.320 a disappointing marriage, her husband cheats on her, her son 0:07:03.520 --> 0:07:06.080 just left to go to college, and she's has this 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:08.919 job that she hates. And then she goes on this 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:10.760 trip to Italy and like all of a sudden is 0:07:10.800 --> 0:07:13.840 like sexy and powerful and she gets a makeover and 0:07:13.960 --> 0:07:19.960 she has a very sapphoic vibe with her like number 0:07:20.000 --> 0:07:25.480 two woah yeah by Monica Monica Balucci, who the whole movie, 0:07:25.480 --> 0:07:28.040 you're waiting for them to hook up because the vibe 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:32.040 is like so overt and it seems like in a 0:07:32.080 --> 0:07:36.840 Tony Collette movie directed by Catherine Hardwick in twenty twenty three, 0:07:37.600 --> 0:07:40.560 like that would actually happen. Like I, as we got 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:42.520 further into the movie, I was like, Oh, they're actually 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:44.920 gonna do this. She's gonna and especially at that I 0:07:44.920 --> 0:07:47.600 mean spoiler alert at the end, she like breaks up 0:07:47.640 --> 0:07:49.760 with the guy she's been seeing, and I was like, Okay, 0:07:49.800 --> 0:07:52.400 this is now, She's finally going to hook up with 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:56.280 Monica Balucci in her prosthetic leg, which was one of 0:07:56.320 --> 0:07:58.720 the major gags of the film. It was really but 0:07:58.800 --> 0:08:01.360 then but then it never happened, and it was disappointing. 0:08:01.480 --> 0:08:04.400 So like, yes, there are some tweaks that could be made, 0:08:04.520 --> 0:08:07.160 but it was a very fun movie. It's the kind 0:08:07.160 --> 0:08:10.320 of movie that my mom will probably watch every time 0:08:10.440 --> 0:08:16.040 it comes on TV and love it. And uh yeah, 0:08:16.080 --> 0:08:18.240 I had a great time. I thought the Monica Bluegi 0:08:18.520 --> 0:08:21.640 lesbian stuff was like for comedic effect, but yeah, no, 0:08:21.800 --> 0:08:23.920 they should have. They should have hooked up. But you, 0:08:24.040 --> 0:08:25.960 to be fair, you kind of walk out of every 0:08:25.960 --> 0:08:30.520 movie saying, you know, they should have hooked up. Yeah, 0:08:30.600 --> 0:08:33.520 but but this was this was different because Monica Bligey 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:36.160 was literally like she was she was going in crawling 0:08:36.360 --> 0:08:39.040 all over to yes, and it could have happened, And 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:43.360 I was just disappointed that it didn't but still loved it. 0:08:43.480 --> 0:08:47.000 Speaking of crawling all over, can we talk about Sasha 0:08:47.080 --> 0:08:51.680 Colby crawling on top of that giant coat Diva for 0:08:51.920 --> 0:08:57.160 the finale lip sync of Drag Race. Oh my god, 0:08:57.600 --> 0:09:02.400 she is incredibly mean. She's queen. Like, I know that 0:09:02.440 --> 0:09:04.560 it's so cliche to like come out of these like 0:09:04.600 --> 0:09:07.120 episodes of TV and be like, oh my god, mother, queen, 0:09:07.240 --> 0:09:11.079 you're the mess. But like, no, like like epithets and 0:09:11.200 --> 0:09:15.840 cliches and like gay aphorisms like have nothing on Sasha Colby, 0:09:15.880 --> 0:09:19.800 who is a real, actual legend in the grand scheme 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:22.760 of like people we've seen through this competition, like next 0:09:22.800 --> 0:09:27.120 to Jinks, the one of the greatest performers the show 0:09:27.120 --> 0:09:33.160 will ever see period. Yeah, and more than any other 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:38.000 season of Drag Race, this finale felt like a coronation 0:09:38.840 --> 0:09:43.480 rather than you know, any sort of competition like this 0:09:43.600 --> 0:09:47.600 whole this for Sasha, this season has truly just been 0:09:47.640 --> 0:09:53.360 a straight shot to the crown. And you know, I 0:09:53.400 --> 0:09:56.199 think some of the other I think the other queens 0:09:56.240 --> 0:10:01.440 were a little gagged. Not not the they expected to win, 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:06.000 but I think especially Mistress and Lux probably were upset 0:10:06.040 --> 0:10:08.920 that they didn't make it to the top. Two that 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:13.120 after a season of everyone having so much thought about 0:10:13.160 --> 0:10:16.280 who was like runner up in the challenges, that to 0:10:16.360 --> 0:10:19.520 me really translated to the finale, especially because I think 0:10:19.640 --> 0:10:23.000 everyone knew Sasha was gonna win. It really meant like 0:10:23.520 --> 0:10:26.360 being number one meant being the person who got to 0:10:26.400 --> 0:10:28.559 lip sync against Sasha at the end. And even though 0:10:29.000 --> 0:10:31.520 it was kind of it became obvious at a point 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:34.240 in the season that the final two were going to 0:10:34.320 --> 0:10:39.440 end up being Sasha and Anetra. I think Mistress, especially Mistress, like, 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:42.280 I don't I don't think luks you know, really, I 0:10:42.320 --> 0:10:43.839 don't think she should have even really been in the 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:50.079 top four. But that's you know another uh yeah, well, 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:52.400 I mean I guess I think it should have just 0:10:52.400 --> 0:10:54.520 been a top three. Yeah you are, Yeah, exactly, it 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:58.760 should be. It should have been. I mean, I really 0:10:58.800 --> 0:11:00.840 warmed up to Lux towards it's the end of the season, 0:11:00.880 --> 0:11:03.720 I think after she had her moment of reading Lucy 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:10.640 Laeduca like that was incredible, But I it took me 0:11:10.679 --> 0:11:12.600 a while to warm up to her, and then once 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:14.720 I did, I liked her, But I just like don't 0:11:14.760 --> 0:11:17.719 think she needed to be in the top four on 0:11:17.840 --> 0:11:19.600 the Sasha Kolby of at all, I think there needed to 0:11:19.640 --> 0:11:22.520 be a top four. Yeah, I mean, it wouldn't be 0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:25.720 nice to go back to top threes, like just you know, 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:27.960 in general, because the top four it's like it's never 0:11:28.040 --> 0:11:30.240 going to be it's like, surprise, it's a top four, 0:11:30.280 --> 0:11:33.920 and it's like it's not. It's not a surprise, Like, yeah, 0:11:34.240 --> 0:11:37.080 but the surprise, especially considering they didn't do they didn't 0:11:37.120 --> 0:11:40.680 do the the the lip sync setup they've been doing 0:11:40.679 --> 0:11:43.199 for the past couple of seasons where each of the 0:11:43.360 --> 0:11:45.960 team's lip sync and then the winners of those go 0:11:46.080 --> 0:11:49.080 head to head. Then if you're not going to do that, 0:11:49.120 --> 0:11:51.520 what's the point in having a top four? Yeah, And 0:11:51.559 --> 0:11:54.200 what's the point in Yeah, I guess it's because they 0:11:54.240 --> 0:11:56.400 really want I don't know, but there was a lot 0:11:56.440 --> 0:12:02.600 more like programming in this finale because unecessary programming. Well okay, well, 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:05.959 first of all, let's start with the necessary programming jinks 0:12:06.120 --> 0:12:09.839 singing Mama, Mama will provide her whatever Mama will provide. 0:12:09.840 --> 0:12:14.880 That's once on this island. What is it called? Yeah, yeah, 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:17.760 that was mom And let me tell you she finished 0:12:17.760 --> 0:12:22.280 her number. I immediately bought tickets to see her at 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:25.520 the Brooklyn at the Brooklyn Kings Theater during her tour. 0:12:25.559 --> 0:12:27.480 I was like, she is such a performer, and yes, 0:12:27.520 --> 0:12:30.120 we want to see her perform. We did not, however, 0:12:30.280 --> 0:12:38.160 need the Orville Peck tribute to drag loving police officers. 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:42.679 What the fuck? It was like, we are so insane, 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:46.440 Like obviously it makes so much sense because of like 0:12:46.559 --> 0:12:52.800 Rue the because of Rue Paul level queer politics, that 0:12:52.840 --> 0:12:57.640 they would include cops in that. But it was just wild. 0:12:57.679 --> 0:13:00.480 What was the point? Because like that I'm doing a 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:03.679 PSA on the show is necessary? Right, Like it I 0:13:03.720 --> 0:13:07.240 think that that is not, you know, wasted space. I 0:13:07.240 --> 0:13:10.600 think it's a platform where you can educate people that 0:13:10.960 --> 0:13:15.160 are allegedly fans of drag and help them understand that 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:20.000 this is about trans people specifically. But like why police 0:13:20.000 --> 0:13:23.880 officers Like literally, like I know, like it feels like 0:13:23.920 --> 0:13:26.520 redundant and like totally like it just like feels like 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:30.079 I'm like, you know, throwing stuff into the echo chamber 0:13:30.080 --> 0:13:34.440 at this point, but like literally, like the the queer 0:13:34.640 --> 0:13:40.800 historical legacy of drag artists in this country is in 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:45.400 opposition to the police every decade. It's galling. But it's 0:13:45.440 --> 0:13:48.280 the kind of queer politics that RuPaul has such a 0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:52.800 heart office for. It's like it's like even police officers 0:13:52.840 --> 0:13:55.800 are gay, because it's still it's like it's like finding 0:13:55.880 --> 0:14:00.200 the most like socially acceptable quote unquote person possible and 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:04.000 being like, even he's a fat yeah yeah, Like that's 0:14:04.040 --> 0:14:06.600 what RuPaul's version of queer politics are. And that's the 0:14:06.640 --> 0:14:10.520 thing though, like queer quote unquote, it's a gay politic, okay, 0:14:10.559 --> 0:14:13.280 Like police officers can be gay, police officers can't be 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:16.200 queer period. Like I'm sorry, I'll say it right now, 0:14:16.240 --> 0:14:19.240 Like police officers literally cannot be queer, and that to 0:14:19.400 --> 0:14:23.040 be queer the definition of queer, what the word queer 0:14:23.080 --> 0:14:27.240 means in this country in opposition to authority, is antithetical 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:30.080 to the work of police. And I honestly I have 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:32.359 no problem saying that, and I have no problem gatekeeping. 0:14:32.640 --> 0:14:36.000 Yeah no, that's I one hundred percent agree. I don't 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:38.680 think any if you actually don't agree with that, like 0:14:38.720 --> 0:14:43.320 you should not be listening to this podcast, Okay, to 0:14:43.360 --> 0:14:47.400 get into the nitty gritty Rose I So, I was 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:52.600 happy actually to see lux in the finale because I 0:14:52.640 --> 0:14:56.560 think she gave pretty much the best number next to 0:14:56.560 --> 0:14:59.400 Sasha Colby's like, I think she came second to Sasha 0:14:59.440 --> 0:15:07.000 in terms of her original number. I thought Mistress had 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:09.440 fear in her eyes, and as soon as she finished, 0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:12.040 you could tell totally you could. And that's the it's 0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:15.480 the it's literally the first time we've ever seen Mistress 0:15:15.880 --> 0:15:19.640 like scared on stage because and I don't honestly know 0:15:20.000 --> 0:15:21.760 really why. I mean, it had to have been a 0:15:21.840 --> 0:15:24.760 Korea thing, but like as soon as the performance ended, 0:15:24.800 --> 0:15:29.120 you could see the resignation in her demeanor, in her voice, 0:15:29.200 --> 0:15:31.520 in her eyes that she didn't do the best she 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:34.640 felt she could have done. And Anitra I felt her 0:15:34.680 --> 0:15:37.200 original performance was also like I mean, the song for 0:15:37.200 --> 0:15:39.000 the most part, the song just like wasn't that good. 0:15:39.040 --> 0:15:41.520 And Lux's song was really good, you know what I mean, 0:15:41.680 --> 0:15:43.960 But Anitra apparently there was like drama about like a 0:15:44.040 --> 0:15:46.680 backup dancer that got like a broken foot or something 0:15:46.760 --> 0:15:49.560 like that. All that is to say is like also 0:15:49.600 --> 0:15:51.360 the thing. Of course, it was always I was just 0:15:51.400 --> 0:15:52.920 gonna say, of course it was always going to be 0:15:52.960 --> 0:15:55.920 a Nature versus Sasha, but like if they were giving 0:15:55.920 --> 0:16:00.280 a real judging, it would have been Lux versus Sasha Colby. Yeah, 0:16:00.320 --> 0:16:02.960 I could see that, but I do think these things 0:16:03.000 --> 0:16:06.640 were decided before the finially and even with a Nietra 0:16:07.000 --> 0:16:09.240 like I do think at a certain point in the season, 0:16:09.720 --> 0:16:12.240 a Nietra very much proved herself to be a one 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:16.640 trick pony, Like you know her she was a lip 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:19.560 sync assassin, but you know, she was pulling the same 0:16:19.680 --> 0:16:23.880 moves every time. Like, yes, her jumping over Marcia to 0:16:23.960 --> 0:16:28.720 the third Power was gaggy, But obviously she did well 0:16:28.840 --> 0:16:30.920 in some of the challenges, although some of the later 0:16:31.040 --> 0:16:34.280 wins I don't necessarily agree with. But yeah, she had 0:16:34.520 --> 0:16:37.440 a stick and it you know, she brought it in 0:16:37.560 --> 0:16:40.360 literally the first episode and then kind of did the 0:16:40.400 --> 0:16:43.840 same thing throughout the whole competition. I'll agree with you 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:47.200 to Nix, I like obviously would die for a Niitra slash, 0:16:47.320 --> 0:16:50.000 like I want her to like be my wife and partner, 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:52.720 and I would take care of her. But I feel 0:16:52.720 --> 0:16:55.320 like you think you think she's hot. I think a 0:16:55.360 --> 0:17:00.960 Nietr is so fine and so beautiful. But I was 0:17:01.000 --> 0:17:04.399 gonna say I would I would say Anitra's not so 0:17:04.520 --> 0:17:07.879 much a one trick pony as her performance style is 0:17:07.960 --> 0:17:12.080 just not as rounded as the other girls, like Lux 0:17:13.200 --> 0:17:17.960 Mistress and Sasha are all giving triple quadruple threat kind 0:17:18.000 --> 0:17:22.399 of scenarios where Anitra is really only giving us dance 0:17:22.440 --> 0:17:26.800 and performance. And she because she has this really really 0:17:27.280 --> 0:17:31.919 kind of lovable, endearing underdog story. I think that's like 0:17:32.000 --> 0:17:34.320 a big reason why people were so gagged that you know, 0:17:34.359 --> 0:17:36.199 she could do karate and do a duck walk and 0:17:36.320 --> 0:17:38.320 jump over Marsha and all the different stuff. Like I 0:17:38.359 --> 0:17:40.760 think that is like worthy of someone going all the 0:17:40.760 --> 0:17:43.199 way to the end. But we have to say, and 0:17:43.240 --> 0:17:45.320 if I haven't said this before, I must say on 0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:49.800 the record, her runway over and over again was rotted 0:17:50.119 --> 0:17:53.600 like rutted, rutted, routted, and the judges just ignored it 0:17:53.680 --> 0:17:56.080 over and over again for her finale runways and looks 0:17:56.160 --> 0:17:59.720 amazing the crystal gown that she did with like the 0:17:59.760 --> 0:18:02.399 Chris little spine down her back or whatever, that was 0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:05.679 also nice. All of her other runways were giving dolls 0:18:05.760 --> 0:18:12.120 kill latex jumpsuits like Vegas core patent leather like ugly, ugly, 0:18:12.200 --> 0:18:16.120 ugly garments and flat wigs and the and the judges 0:18:16.240 --> 0:18:19.240 ignored it because they loved Antra And that is fine, 0:18:19.320 --> 0:18:21.600 because I love a Nutra too, but like it has 0:18:21.640 --> 0:18:24.560 to be said, yes, well that that was such the 0:18:25.040 --> 0:18:29.960 glaring difference watching Sasha versus a Nutra in that final 0:18:30.000 --> 0:18:36.000 lip sync is just, you know, it confirms more than 0:18:36.040 --> 0:18:40.439 ever that drag is a woman's sport. And you have 0:18:41.040 --> 0:18:44.240 you have like the doll of all dolls up there 0:18:44.359 --> 0:18:49.520 against you know, Anitra in her like Vegas body suit. 0:18:50.680 --> 0:18:54.000 I just Sasha like that there's a reason why she 0:18:54.160 --> 0:18:55.920 you know, took all those clothes off. Like yes, part 0:18:55.920 --> 0:18:59.040 of it is like political because of everything that's happening. 0:18:59.080 --> 0:19:01.719 Like I think she even said an interview with Entertainment Weekly, 0:19:01.800 --> 0:19:05.879 like she wanted to like put out on stage like 0:19:05.960 --> 0:19:09.400 what everyone is so scared of. But it's also like, 0:19:09.600 --> 0:19:12.120 as she said earlier in the season, like she's the 0:19:12.119 --> 0:19:15.000 only one who could turn up there and give body, 0:19:15.440 --> 0:19:18.080 and that's what she did. And like watching her up 0:19:18.119 --> 0:19:21.280 on that stage is like watching so many trans drag 0:19:21.320 --> 0:19:24.359 performers who I've seen, like watching Charlene do a number 0:19:24.400 --> 0:19:27.240 and like strip down to nothing and like a crowded 0:19:27.240 --> 0:19:31.440 bar or a club, and like there's just something different 0:19:31.520 --> 0:19:34.639 when it like yes, we love like the artifice and 0:19:34.680 --> 0:19:38.840 transformation of drag, but like when that has like crystallized 0:19:38.960 --> 0:19:44.080 into someone's final form and then it's like the realnessness 0:19:44.400 --> 0:19:48.840 just sick. It was hilarious that Drag Race decided to 0:19:48.840 --> 0:19:52.400 give Bob Mackie, it's giving us Lifetime Achievement Award when 0:19:52.440 --> 0:19:55.280 in reality, like Sasha Colby was the winner of the 0:19:55.320 --> 0:19:57.800 Lifetime Achievement Award. Like that's really what it felt like. 0:19:58.040 --> 0:20:02.120 I thought Bob Mackie was dead. I kind of did too. 0:20:02.200 --> 0:20:05.199 I'm not gonna When they said they were doing a 0:20:05.240 --> 0:20:09.000 tribute to him, I was like, oh did Heah? I 0:20:09.040 --> 0:20:11.240 was like I would have heard if he died. It was. Yeah, 0:20:11.240 --> 0:20:13.240 it was kind of bizarre. I guess it's like because 0:20:13.240 --> 0:20:17.040 they were whatever anyways. But yeah, the coronation you were 0:20:17.040 --> 0:20:20.000 talking about with Sasha was amazing. Virgins, if you have 0:20:20.280 --> 0:20:24.639 any any opportunity to see Sasha Colby perform in person 0:20:24.880 --> 0:20:28.120 during one of her many, you know, cross country performances, 0:20:28.480 --> 0:20:31.280 you have to because seeing her in person is a 0:20:31.320 --> 0:20:35.480 completely different experience than seeing it on TV. She does 0:20:35.520 --> 0:20:39.919 it like no other queen can, and oh god, it 0:20:39.960 --> 0:20:42.399 was just it was It just made me proud to 0:20:42.560 --> 0:20:45.160 love the art form that I love. And I think 0:20:45.200 --> 0:20:48.120 that every drag artist watching her felt that way too, 0:20:48.240 --> 0:20:50.479 even Mistress, who I don't know if you saw that 0:20:50.520 --> 0:20:54.480 clip of them watching the finale reveal together and mistresses 0:20:54.480 --> 0:20:55.840 in that room, and as soon as they announce that 0:20:55.880 --> 0:21:00.480 it's Slasha Colby's, Mistress turns like this really funny like canned, 0:21:00.480 --> 0:21:04.760 and she goes, what what the fuck? Boom, Like it 0:21:04.880 --> 0:21:08.320 was so it was so knowing because they all knew 0:21:08.480 --> 0:21:10.760 that she was gonna win, But it was also like, 0:21:11.240 --> 0:21:13.280 Mistress is such a good sport because and I think 0:21:13.320 --> 0:21:17.800 you'll agree with me, Rose, like she Mistress is on 0:21:18.600 --> 0:21:21.640 like that level, Like she is maybe not as good 0:21:21.680 --> 0:21:24.960 as Sasha Colby, but she is as like well rounded 0:21:24.960 --> 0:21:28.040 as Sasha Colby. She is such an expert in drag 0:21:28.119 --> 0:21:30.760 and I wish I could have seen her even more 0:21:30.800 --> 0:21:33.160 of her. But she she's gonna, you know, hopefully murder 0:21:33.200 --> 0:21:37.159 All Stars at some point. Oh yeah, mistress will she 0:21:37.240 --> 0:21:40.360 will be winning Stars, you know, fifteen or whatever. Yeah, 0:21:40.400 --> 0:21:42.840 she has to win. She has to win. Can you 0:21:42.840 --> 0:21:44.920 believe we're getting All Stars in like two weeks? Two 0:21:45.000 --> 0:21:48.160 or three weeks? Yeah, I'm surprised it's not starting this week. 0:21:48.240 --> 0:22:12.080 Yeah right now. M after after rewatching Mama Mia last Night. 0:22:13.040 --> 0:22:16.439 It's a very horny movie. But I think Abba is 0:22:16.560 --> 0:22:21.560 very horny music. Well okay, okay, it is thematically horny, yes, 0:22:21.600 --> 0:22:24.960 but it's not music that makes you horny. Nor would 0:22:25.000 --> 0:22:30.760 you fuck to Abba? Would you see the face that 0:22:30.840 --> 0:22:35.160 you just made? That was like I would too. Yeah, 0:22:35.200 --> 0:22:38.560 I would fuck to a selection of ABBA's music, you know, 0:22:38.880 --> 0:22:42.800 not all of it, some maybe I would fuck to 0:22:42.840 --> 0:22:48.000 Gimme gimme gimme on the loop for you know, six hours. Yeah, 0:22:48.040 --> 0:22:51.399 I mean that whole album, to be honest, it is 0:22:51.440 --> 0:22:55.720 gim me give me, give me your favorite Abba song? Yeah, okay, 0:22:55.880 --> 0:22:59.320 that whole album is definitely. That album is definitely my 0:22:59.320 --> 0:23:02.600 favorite album, Like Vulie Voo is so like transcendent, and 0:23:02.680 --> 0:23:05.600 the first like the first song as Good as New 0:23:05.680 --> 0:23:07.679 is probably one of my favorite Abba songs, though I'm 0:23:07.720 --> 0:23:11.280 pretty sure my favorite what's your favorite song? Probably Dancing Queen, 0:23:11.840 --> 0:23:14.320 which is so so so pathetically basic. I just know 0:23:14.800 --> 0:23:17.280 I have when it's right, it's right, I have like 0:23:17.320 --> 0:23:21.120 a really really fierce, like lifelong, like literally lifelong attachment 0:23:21.160 --> 0:23:24.600 to that song. And and then I also really love Chita. 0:23:24.920 --> 0:23:28.240 It has like a lot of course emotion. I'm getting 0:23:28.240 --> 0:23:29.879 emotional even talking about it. But that's the thing that 0:23:30.160 --> 0:23:33.119 it's so emotional. It's such emotional music. No, it is. 0:23:33.200 --> 0:23:35.639 Last night when I was watching Mom and Mia during 0:23:35.960 --> 0:23:40.720 the Dancing Queen sequence, I cried. I teared up. Of course, 0:23:40.880 --> 0:23:44.720 I was also very stoned. I wanted to I wanted 0:23:44.760 --> 0:23:47.439 to be I wanted to like have that moment of 0:23:47.440 --> 0:23:49.000 watching it and then be able to get stone this 0:23:49.040 --> 0:23:51.920 morning and like flash back to where I was last night. 0:23:53.040 --> 0:23:57.119 But but here's what I don't understand. You love Abba, 0:23:57.280 --> 0:24:01.600 you love your music. How have you waited this long 0:24:01.840 --> 0:24:04.359 to watch Mama Yea because I knew I wouldn't like it? 0:24:06.520 --> 0:24:09.320 And did you not like it? I enjoyed it for 0:24:09.359 --> 0:24:11.600 what it was, everything that it brought to the table, 0:24:11.760 --> 0:24:14.560 everything that it promised it delivered on. It's just it 0:24:14.720 --> 0:24:19.240 was not it was. It's so confusingly crazy. It's so 0:24:19.359 --> 0:24:21.320 crazy to me, and I think it's just a gag. 0:24:21.359 --> 0:24:24.840 I would watch it anytime, honestly on background. Okay, well 0:24:24.920 --> 0:24:30.159