1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: The fields on the Group Prods. Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks, 2 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:12,319 Speaker 1: j P Shacker, John Oser, and NFL Network analyst and 3 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: former Jaguar Bucky Brooks bring you the latest on George 4 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: Jackson Hills Jaguars. Everything's got to be about the future. 5 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 1: It's got to be about tomorrow and bringing all that 6 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 1: into focus as we know, attack the season. Huddle Up 7 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: with Buck Brooks starts right now and welcome in. It's 8 00:00:27,520 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: week nine. The Jaguars and the Raiders coming up and 9 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: welcome into Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks, j P, Shadrick, 10 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: John osan busy show ahead. We'll preview that match up. 11 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: The game this week presented by CSX at the Bank. 12 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: The Raiders, they played in New Orleans last week and 13 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: have been practicing in Florida, I think down in sarah 14 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:48,360 Speaker 1: Sota most of the week. They'll be up here for 15 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 1: the game on Sunday against the Jags. The Raiders at 16 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: two and five, the Jaguars at two and six. We've 17 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: got some social media questions. The Jaguars made another transaction 18 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: right before the deadline, trade for a player who'll be 19 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: here next year. We'll get to that coming up. Then 20 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: we walk to in Bucky Brooks now from l A 21 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 1: and good afternoon, Bucky. What's up here we are? It's 22 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: week number nine? You go week number nine, but we're 23 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: starting over his week number one, just trying to go 24 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 1: one and notice we get back on track. How about that? 25 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: How about that? Indeed we'll get to the game coming up, 26 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 1: John with the big news. At least the last day 27 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: or so at the trade deadline, the Jacks made one transaction, 28 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: of course of a week or so ago and James 29 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 1: Robinson going to the Jets. They made another one right 30 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:35,840 Speaker 1: before the deadline, Calvin Ridley coming over from the Falcons. 31 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: He's been suspended since March and traded yesterday before the deadline. 32 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: He can apply for reinstatement in February of next year. 33 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: Twenty three is when he can reapply for I can 34 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: apply for regains statements. So a lot of questions around this, Bucky. 35 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: But if he's right, you've got a first round talent 36 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: on your team. Now moving ahead, If he's ready to 37 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: talk about the top ten, why every fiver on your hands. 38 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: You have to remember this dude is a true number one. 39 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 1: He stepped in and replaced Julio Jones, uh and did 40 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 1: it very very well for the Atlanta Falcons a couple 41 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: of years ago. Now we haven't seen him play in 42 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: two seasons. He missed last seasons due to personal reasons. 43 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: This year he's suspended by the league. But make no 44 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 1: mistake about it, this dude is someone who can do 45 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: it all. Outstanding route runner. Um kind of has sneaky 46 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: speed and quickness to be able to get behind the defense, 47 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,800 Speaker 1: but he's very, very comfortable being the lead receiver. And 48 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: so when you think about the potential composition of the 49 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: wide receiver corps, where you have Calvin Ridley, you have 50 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: Christian Kirk, you have Za Jones, and even if Marvin 51 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: Jones is back available, you now have route runners. And 52 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: so to me, I think this is a perfect move 53 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 1: because your eye towards three. But what you're doing is 54 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 1: you're making sure that you give Trevor Lawrence a legitimate 55 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,080 Speaker 1: number one receiver to anchor his passing him around. Yeah, 56 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: and there's so much time to talk about sort of 57 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 1: the nuances of this deal JP and Bucky, But to me, 58 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 1: I kept going on it went over it last night. 59 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: I texted Bucky said, hey, uh, what do you think? 60 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: And he said, great move. Uh, So I trust that 61 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: because it's his show, right, Yeah, I mean it's what 62 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: choice do I have. But overall it it it feels right, 63 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:20,799 Speaker 1: even beyond him being a one. Uh. In terms of 64 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:23,839 Speaker 1: how you trying to build this roster, it feels right 65 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 1: because frankly, they're gonna have stuff to do next offseason 66 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: beyond just wide receiver. I think the consensus is they 67 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: need a one who can stretch the field. They need 68 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: the talent that really is gonna bring. But it also 69 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: feels like they're gonna need corner. It feels like they 70 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: need some other spots around the roster that really, if 71 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: you're gonna get premium, you're best off picking in the 72 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: first round. It felt like they were gonna need to 73 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 1: go first round wide receiver to me until this move. 74 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: So in terms of what they're trying to build roster wise, 75 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 1: if you can bring a guy like this in without 76 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: burn off a first round pick and have a pool 77 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 1: more or have one more in that sense, it's it's 78 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: a no brainer for really in terms of draft capital bucket, 79 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:10,839 Speaker 1: very low risk in terms of what they gave up, Yeah, 80 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: very low risk, And there are a couple of things 81 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: to consider. You talked about the draft. Whenever you are 82 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: in charge your decision maker, one thing you do as 83 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 1: you look at who's available potentially on the free agent 84 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: market versus who could be available in the draft. This 85 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: year's draft does not have necessarily to stop power at 86 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 1: wide receiver that we've seen in recent drafts. The other 87 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 1: thing that I think we have to consider, Marvin Jones 88 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 1: is in the last year of his deal. And so 89 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: when we think about Marvin Jones being thirty two years old, 90 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 1: he'd be a restricted free agent. This now gives you 91 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 1: a natural replacement for him if he's not resigned. And 92 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 1: when you think about Marvin Jones and his skill set, 93 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: Kelvin Ridley has that skill set plus younger, more explosive, 94 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: more dynamic playmaker on the perimeter. So to me, this 95 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:56,679 Speaker 1: is a move that protects against that while also ensuring 96 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: that if we don't like someone in the draft, we 97 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: have someone in place who I would say will already 98 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: to be better than someone that you could bring in 99 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 1: the draft. So to me, what you've done is you've 100 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:10,039 Speaker 1: already upgraded your wide receiver record next year by getting 101 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 1: a player who's experienced that we've seen do work in 102 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: this league. I like to move. I think the main 103 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 1: thing is just making sure that Calvin Ridley is right 104 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 1: whatever issues plagued him doing his uh the last few 105 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 1: years in Atlanta. You want to make sure that all 106 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: that stuff is resolved, and then you're getting a good 107 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: football player. I will also say this because I'm personally 108 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: attached to him and Christian Kirk watching these guys grow 109 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: up in high school, having coached these guys at various events. 110 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: These are really really good guys and really good guys 111 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: that kind of fit on the squad. I just really 112 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 1: like the move because I think both of these guys 113 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 1: are going to benefit one another playing opposite each other. 114 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: I had a question for the GM, and I assume 115 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:53,560 Speaker 1: Bucky will be at GM at some point. If you're 116 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: if you're trent Um, how tough is this move to 117 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 1: make me? I mean, it's it's there is some risk involved. Uh, 118 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: there's a lot that goes into it, and you are 119 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: trying to look at the future. You're trying to figure 120 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: out what you're giving up, what that might cost you. 121 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 1: How complex was this and how much of a I 122 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: guess gutsy decision is it. I mean, I think it's 123 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 1: it's a little complex only because of the unknown. Right, 124 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 1: you haven't seen the player play for two years, so 125 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 1: you just don't know where he's at in terms of 126 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:38,159 Speaker 1: conditioning and skills and those things. And so that's part 127 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: of the other part of is what what what happened 128 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 1: in Atlanta? Like why did it go a ride in Atlanta? 129 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,839 Speaker 1: Like the personal reasons like why did he leave? The 130 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:49,840 Speaker 1: gambling incident or whatever, you can investigate. You get all 131 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: that information from the league, whether it's a careless mistake 132 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 1: or whether it's part of a problem that he's having 133 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: to deal with. All of that stuff you have to resolve. 134 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,799 Speaker 1: I think the main thing is when you're Trent Balky 135 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 1: and you've gone down this path before, like you think 136 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 1: about having to take Alden Smith at San Francisco and 137 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: the success that came from that. You might be a 138 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 1: bit of a risk taker when it may come to 139 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: some players that some would deem to be character risk. 140 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: But in the right environment, with the right coaching staff, 141 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: in the right locker room, you can take a player 142 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: or two like that and have success maybe I won't 143 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: say rehabilitating the player, but being able to blend that 144 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: the player into the fabric of the team. Yeah, I think, Bucky, 145 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: that's something that hasn't been discussed a hot day or 146 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: I haven't heard it again. I will absolutely trust you 147 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: if you knew Calvin coming up, everything you hear is 148 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: that he's a good kid. Um so. But if you're 149 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: uncertain at all because the fact that he stepped away 150 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: from the game in one uh, it does raise that issue. H. 151 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: I think the Jazz Wars are getting more and more 152 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: confident in the locker room they've built in terms of 153 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:07,600 Speaker 1: Christian Kirk's going to be in the room with him. 154 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: If you're follow me, I think overall, I never pretend 155 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: to know NFL players because we're only in the locker 156 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: with him a few minutes a week JP. But it 157 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: feels like a good locker room on that front. So 158 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: I do think there's a confidence level with Doug and 159 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: Trent of of being able to bring guys in and 160 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: trust that this environment is going to be I guess 161 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: a nurturing one for lack of a better award. Uh. Yeah. 162 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 1: But let's even go beyond that, because you gotta remember 163 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: Doug Peterson was heavily influenced by his relationship with Andy Reid. 164 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:38,439 Speaker 1: Let's think about the things that Kansas City has been 165 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: able to do in terms of taking players who may 166 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: have been troubled players elsewhere, but they find a way 167 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: to be very, very productive for them. And so if 168 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: you're do Doug Peterson and you really stick to that 169 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: Andy Reid code and you feel like you're building your 170 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: team in a similar fashion, you have a locker room 171 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: that's very supportive and competitive, and you can bring out 172 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: the best in players, why wouldn't you enter saying that? 173 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: Because when we talk about the risk in this deal, uh, 174 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: the picks that you're giving up, I mean we're talking 175 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: about developmental picks at that that's what they're considered. And 176 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: so if it hits great, If it doesn't, yeah, you 177 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: lose the fourth or fifth round pick and those things, 178 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: but those aren't things that you necessarily lose sleepover. It's 179 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: the first and second rounders that you worry about. Now, 180 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 1: if Kevin really hissed, this is a big time move 181 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: because it upgrades your wife receiver corps and it gives 182 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence another experienced receiver around him to help him 183 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: develop into the player that everyone wants him to be. 184 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: All Right, that's the news for the three Jaguars will 185 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 1: return and discuss the two edition of the team and 186 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:42,719 Speaker 1: their matchup this week against the Las Vegas Raiders. The 187 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: Jags have now dropped five in a row and how 188 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 1: can they snap that skid. We'll get into Buckey's head 189 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: on that and discuss the Raiders coming up as well. 190 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks is brought to you by 191 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: Fields Auto Group, Jacksonville. Step up to Luxury Fields Auto 192 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: dot Com. This is Huddle Up with Bucky Brooks on 193 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 1: the Jaguars Digital Network. Remember when you gotta be honest, 194 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: you know, with the player, um, and and that's good 195 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: and bad, right, and you just you're up front with them, 196 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 1: and you gotta have constructive dialogue, you know, with with 197 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: him and with really of all your players and your team. 198 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: And and I never want to be someone that wants 199 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: to kind of sugarcoat anything. I think we have to 200 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: be honest that way, even even in my performance UM 201 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: as well, and you know, in taking that, I think 202 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 1: from what I learned in Philly during that time, it's 203 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: just just doing that, being being open and honest. And 204 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: really sometimes you gotta have tough different you know, tough 205 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:46,439 Speaker 1: conversations with with players and UM, you know whether it's 206 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 1: a quarterback or not, and you know it's it's we're 207 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: gonna work through everything together and and that's what we do. 208 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,839 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, we we dig ourselves out of 209 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: whatever we're in and and you know, continue to improve. 210 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: That's the head coach of course. Earlier today, Doug Peterson. 211 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 1: The full press conference available on Jaguars dot com and 212 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: welcome back. It's huddle up with Bucky Brooks. It's Wednesday, 213 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: it's week nine. Bucky is in the middle of your screen. 214 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 1: I'm on the left of the screen. John Osier is 215 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: on the right. The Jaguars have lost five in a 216 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: row after a two and one start to follow a 217 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:23,719 Speaker 1: record of two and six. They'll come back home to 218 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 1: face the Las Vegas Raiders, who were shut out last 219 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,839 Speaker 1: week in New Orleans. We'll get to the Raiders coming up. 220 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: But the comments here of Doug Peterson, Yeah, and key 221 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 1: moments still Trevor Lawrence turning the ball over down in 222 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: the first and goal at the one, the roll of 223 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: the right and just had to keep rolling and tried 224 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: to force it in there. And that was a huge takeaway. 225 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: In the second quarter of the game at Wimbley last week, 226 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,839 Speaker 1: and then on the opening play of the two minute 227 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: drive to try to rally back, um threw a pick 228 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: as well, and on just a misfire out to the 229 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: right side, and Um, some of those things have to 230 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: get cleaned up. We we talked about that lot, Bucky, 231 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: but I was I was intrigued by his answer there 232 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: of how you just go right after it and and 233 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: you can't sugarcoat things with a quarterback, No, I think. 234 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: I think with players you have to be clear and 235 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 1: direct in your assessments. And I think great coaches whole 236 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: players accountable for the actions, but they also can praise 237 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 1: them and give them the positives when they need to 238 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 1: do that. But I think for Trevor Lawrence, I think 239 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: Doug has to have that conversation because what happens is 240 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 1: if you don't have that conversation with the quarterback, if 241 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: you don't hold a quarterback to a high standard, yet 242 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 1: you're holding everybody else on the team, it brings about 243 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 1: a level of resentment in the locker room. And so 244 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: if we talk about operating and playing to a championship standard, 245 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: everyone has to play like that. When you fall short 246 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,199 Speaker 1: at that standard, you have to be called out on it. 247 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: Now it doesn't have to be in a necessarily embarrassing fashion, 248 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 1: but you have to have those conversations. So for Dog 249 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,079 Speaker 1: to sit there and talk about that, he understands that 250 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 1: he's been a super Bowl winner. He's also been a 251 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: player in this league. And the one thing, that one 252 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: thing that you want as a player is you want 253 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 1: to be told the truth. Because if you told the truth, 254 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: where you like it or not, the one thing that 255 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:08,720 Speaker 1: you can see is at least they told me. I'm 256 00:13:08,720 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 1: not surprised by it. I know exactly what I'm stepping into. 257 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:15,079 Speaker 1: I also understand my role. I think for Doug to 258 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: have that conversation with Trevor Lawrence and others, it's essential, 259 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: particularly at this stage of the season, when you're sitting 260 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 1: it to in six and you're trying to figure out 261 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: how to get out of this rut. You have to 262 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: have open, honest, UH dialogue to try and figure out 263 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: the best way for this team to move forward. We 264 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: also think there's a element of Doug knows this is 265 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: a long term thing. Uh, it's not. It is about 266 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: this season. You love to rattle off Niner Room getting 267 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: the playoffs, but there's also a tone you want to 268 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 1: say where you want to make sure players for the 269 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: long term, meaning other players know that Trevor is gonna 270 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: be held to that same standard. Uh. And I think 271 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: that is a lot of dougs. Messaging this year has 272 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: felt like it's about now, but the moves in the 273 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 1: message is also it's always about the future and how 274 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: you move forward. I have a question for the scout. Okay, 275 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: what h when you look at Trevor Um, everybody's everybody 276 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 1: wants to know. I mean every email I get this week, 277 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: if I get a hundred of him, there's eighty of 278 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: them wanted to be benched, which is absolutely ridiculous. Uh, 279 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: because's not gonna happen, nor should it. But what are 280 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: you seeing? Um? I guess that concerns you and the 281 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: counter What do you like overall? Because I still like 282 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 1: a lot of about what you're seeing overall, But you 283 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 1: can't not say that there's not some concerning stuff right now. Yeah, 284 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: just like us, we gotta be honest about what we're seeing. 285 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: What we're we're seeing from the quarterback? What I like 286 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: about the quarterback? First and foremost, I think he's super talented. Um, 287 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: I think he has supreme talent. I think he has 288 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: the talent to be an elite quarterback in this league, 289 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: from his arm talent to his athleticism to the intangibles 290 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 1: that you need to have to be a franchise quarterback. 291 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: Smart tough Um does a great job of leading his team. Uh. 292 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: The things that you're worried about are too decision making, 293 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: particularly done in the red zone, because that requires situational awareness, 294 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: understanding how to live to play another down, and then 295 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: the accuracy issues that have popped up consistently throughout his 296 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: time in Jacksonville. Uh, he misses a handful of throws 297 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: that you expected lead quarterbacks to be able to make consistently. 298 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 1: Now he turns around and makes them absolute dimes. Uh 299 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: like high end throws, high level throws that you want 300 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 1: to see from the upper echelone quarterbacks. But it's a 301 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 1: level of consistency with the ball placement that you would 302 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: like to see. So he can operate this offense efficiently. 303 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: But the one thing is the situational awareness and being 304 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: able to know, you know what, I probably should throw 305 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:48,840 Speaker 1: this one away. I need to live to fight another down. 306 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 1: I need to understand where the team is at in 307 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: this moment and make sure I don't do anything to 308 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 1: compromise the team's opportunity to score points and to win games. Uh. 309 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: I will say this because sometimes it's overlooked in the 310 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 1: scouting process. How many close games did Trevor Lawrence really 311 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: play in, not only in college but in high school 312 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: when you've won to the level that he's won. But 313 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: if you may not have played in close games, you 314 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: don't understand how valuable the ball is. So you can 315 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: be a little careless and reckless in those things. And 316 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: so we can say, look, man, the Jaguars have lost 317 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: nine straight one score games, six straight this year. He's 318 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: had a hand in a bunch of those with his turnovers, 319 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: and eventually he has to learn, but he's learning on 320 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: the fly. And sometimes, man, you have to touch the 321 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: stove before you realize hot. At some point it's going 322 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: to click with him that when I'm in the red zone, 323 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: I can't make these bad decisions because I'm killing our 324 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: team right hand off the stove. Job. Yeah, yeah, it's uh, 325 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 1: that's a good one. That's a good one. I can't 326 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: even follow that. J K pretty good that it does, 327 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: you guys, what his names in the show. That's true. 328 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 1: It is helpful when you have a running game that's 329 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: starting to get rolling again. And boy, Travis et N 330 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 1: was on a roll going into Wembley with three straight 331 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 1: games over one hundred scrimmage yard. Makes one hundred scrimmage yards. 332 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: Make it four in a row now as he explodes, 333 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 1: and it just it just felt a little different than 334 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:18,919 Speaker 1: past running games for E. T. N. Buck. He just 335 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: the style that he ran and like he was putting 336 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: pads down and running through guys and he had that 337 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 1: added verse. He turned three and four yard runs into 338 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 1: seven and eight yard runs and that was a little 339 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 1: different feeling. Hello, man, this dude is the real deal. Uh. 340 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: Travis et N has been a big time playmaker throughout 341 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,719 Speaker 1: his time at Clemson, and we're seeing why people are 342 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 1: so fascinated and smitten by him in the draft process. 343 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: He has the ability to turn uh plays into big 344 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: explosive plays like this is a guy who was a 345 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 1: monster working between the TACs and getting on the perimeter. 346 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 1: And you know his style is i won't say a 347 00:17:56,560 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: little unorthodox, but it's not like smooth and a lighting 348 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: running style. This a little hercue jerky. But when he 349 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 1: puts his foot on in the ground and he accelerates man. 350 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 1: He has the ability to go from zero to sixty quickly. Uh. 351 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 1: And what we're seeing now is why some of those 352 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: comparisons during the pre draft process compared at the end 353 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: to Alvin Kamara, because it's not only his ability to 354 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 1: make plays as a runner, but his ability to make 355 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: things happen in the passing game that gets you excited. 356 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 1: And whenever someone in college puts the ball into paint 357 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: seventy eight times, they have a knack for the goal line. 358 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 1: They have a nose for the goal line. He has 359 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: that in each and every week. As he gets more opportunities, 360 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:40,120 Speaker 1: you're beginning to see why he's that franchise caliber back. 361 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 1: I'm really excited about where he is. But I also 362 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: wanted this as Doug Peterson is evaluating the team, and 363 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 1: this is right around the time. When you do this, 364 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 1: you're eight games in and there was a style of 365 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: play that you wanted to utilize. Well, now we played 366 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: eight games and then you know who your playmakers are. 367 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 1: I do wonder as we continue to go, does he 368 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: become the centerpiece of the offense and not sixteen Does 369 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 1: it become a little more running back centric and not 370 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: as much Trevor Lawrence centric as this team is building 371 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: this offense and as they're trying to get back into 372 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: the playoff race. Well, I think you've seen the answer 373 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:19,479 Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks. I think it seems it 374 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: is gearing towards that, and I've said it the last 375 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: couple of weeks. It's fascinating me. I really missed on 376 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: E T And I thought during I mean, I guess 377 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: it's it's fair because I only see him in O 378 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: t as in football, I mean in the NFL, and 379 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: I didn't think he was gonna be a major story 380 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 1: this year. I thought he would be a supplemental story. 381 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: I thought he would make some plays in no way 382 00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,600 Speaker 1: that I think he would be the featured go to back, 383 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:48,360 Speaker 1: not just because the list frank, but he didn't. I 384 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 1: was looking during O t as just see just blinding 385 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 1: blazing speed like Tyreek Hill speed. And I really didn't 386 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 1: see that. And I wondered where he was going to 387 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: be effective because I didn't expect him to be this 388 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: instinctive a runner. Uh, his vision is off the charts good, 389 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: and then his ability to make plays off of what 390 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 1: he sees his instincts. All those running back things on 391 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: our Jaguars Drive time this morning. I I sort of 392 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: raised the question a little bit tongue in cheeks so far, 393 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: but maybe not. Is he a Rushmore Jaguars running back? 394 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: Is that where he's headed? And the rushmore is impressive 395 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 1: around here? I mean, Fred Taylor and Morris Jones Drew 396 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 1: are franchise defining players, so it's obviously way premature to 397 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: talk about that. But the way he runs, if he 398 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:42,439 Speaker 1: stays healthy, he he's a much better, more complete NFL 399 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 1: running back. And his toughness is so impressive for a 400 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: guy of his size because he doesn't feel huge JP 401 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 1: but he runs hard and he runs smart. The only 402 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 1: thing I questioned about how they can use him on 403 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 1: the lines of what Bucky's saying. Are they gonna be 404 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 1: able to use him big time in the red zone 405 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 1: for power type stuff? I don't know if this offense 406 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: is that, so I don't know if you can rebuild 407 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 1: your red zone offense around that, uh, but they sure 408 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: seem to be redoing how they think they're going to 409 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: move the ball between the twenties and again, he's impressive. 410 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: He He's his big as surprise to me for his 411 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 1: level of effectiveness as I can remember around here. Okay, 412 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you the name, and I'm gonna give 413 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:31,119 Speaker 1: you who he is and who he may be for 414 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: our offense, He's Jamal Charles. When Jamal Charles was in 415 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 1: the prime of his career with the Kansas City Chiefs, 416 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 1: I think Doug. I think Doug Peterson was there during 417 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: that time. Uh. If you go back and you look 418 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 1: at how Jamal Charles impacted that team, it was as 419 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,679 Speaker 1: a runner, and it was as a big time playmaker 420 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 1: in the screen game and also on checkdowns, I think 421 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,679 Speaker 1: that's who Travis at the end is. He has the 422 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: ability to really impact it in that fashion. Now, the 423 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: thing about Travis which is funny because he's fast, but 424 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's that Chris Johnson fast that 425 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: we talked about, like when Chris Johnson was really killing 426 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: it for the Tennessee Titans. I don't know if he's 427 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: that because he top ends out right around fifty yards 428 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: where they kind of bring him down. He's a little difference. 429 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: We talked about Fred Taylor. Fred Taylor takes those to 430 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:19,919 Speaker 1: the house. He cribs him all day. So when we 431 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 1: talk about the Mount Rushmore, I do believe he's trending 432 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: to that. We don't want to give away Teo jackets 433 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: right now after a four game run that has been spectacular, 434 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 1: But he certainly is Fred Taylor m j D. He's 435 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: right there in terms of being a franchise caliber back. 436 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 1: I think what you also see is why the Jaguars 437 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:44,439 Speaker 1: were okay moving on from James Robinson before, because the 438 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 1: more opportunities that Travis has had, the more big plays 439 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: that have started to come. And so I think with 440 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,159 Speaker 1: this offense and the way they want to operate it, 441 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: it's not an old school ground and pound offense, but 442 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 1: you certainly want to have a balanced running game that 443 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 1: has some of that pop that he's been able to proprode. Well, 444 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 1: you know me, JP were talking tough football. I think 445 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 1: most running backs in the NFL these days are pretty interchangeable. 446 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 1: I mean, uh, this kid does not fit into that category. 447 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 1: He's I mean most running backs pretty much get you 448 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: the yards that are there, and they might get a 449 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: yard or two more. Uh. But Travis, you don't get 450 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 1: a forty nine yard right, I mean, invest three games 451 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: he's had a forty eight yard runs plus. Uh, you 452 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 1: don't get forty eight yard runs, plus just running what 453 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 1: the offensive line gives you. You have to create that 454 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 1: kind of yards with your own ability and your own 455 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: vision and that special stuff. In two thousand, it was 456 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 1: two thousand, my last year covering the Jags for the paper. 457 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:55,880 Speaker 1: Fred Taylor went on a run that year. I think 458 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,120 Speaker 1: he had nine straight hundred yard games, and the number 459 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 1: of breaka a runs he had during that stretch was unbelievable. 460 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: I'd never to me, it felt like I was covering 461 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 1: Barry Sanders in his prime, and Fred's certainly proved to 462 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: be that level of back. Um. Yeah, I'm not gonna 463 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: put Travis on Fred's level, because Fred to me is 464 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:19,400 Speaker 1: top fifteen, top twenty of all time. But the consistency 465 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,679 Speaker 1: with which he makes plays that are explosive at that 466 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: position in this day and age, it's really impressive. Again, 467 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 1: I just didn't expect it. It's it's impressive. We've got 468 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:31,159 Speaker 1: plenty to get to. We'll come back. We've got to 469 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: get to the defense. They've given up fourth quarter leads 470 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: and they did it again at Wembley. Will try to 471 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 1: get some answers from Buckey on how to slow that 472 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: trend down, and we've got to talk about the Las 473 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,719 Speaker 1: Vegas Raiders, a team that's two and five and they 474 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 1: got shut out last week. They still have some pieces 475 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 1: on that offense certainly, and your social media questions coming up. 476 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: It's huddle up with Bucky Brooks on the Jaguars Digital Network. 477 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 1: We had a game just like that this season where 478 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 1: where we held up, held a team to zero and 479 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: then you know, next thing you know, they're over thirty 480 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 1: points the next next time we play them. So each 481 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 1: week is different, and each game plan is different, and 482 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,880 Speaker 1: the set of circumstances are different, and you you put 483 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 1: the past in the past and you focus focus on 484 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,639 Speaker 1: the current. So um, I would expect a different you know, 485 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: Raider team this weekend. That's said coach Doug Peterson today 486 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: when I asked about the Raiders shutout loss last week 487 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,119 Speaker 1: and welcome back. It's huddled up with Bucky Brooks, j 488 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: P Shadwick John Oser alongside the Jacks in the Raiders 489 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 1: Game presented by CSX Sunday one o'clock. Yeah, the Raiders 490 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 1: got shut out in New Orleans last week, but we're 491 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 1: just talking about Travis c t N's run here of 492 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 1: four games over one scrimmage yards before last week's game, 493 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs was on that kind of run for the 494 00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: Las Vegas Raiders and it was over hundred for three straight. 495 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:05,199 Speaker 1: And they still have Davontae Adams, Yes, they still have 496 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:07,400 Speaker 1: you know, the tight ends been banged up. We'll see 497 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,679 Speaker 1: if he comes back. But Jacobs is really off to 498 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: a good start here Bucky on the ground for for 499 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 1: the Raiders. Yeah, also an outstanding start. And you know, 500 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 1: for a guy who has played a ton during the 501 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,520 Speaker 1: preseason because he was still trying to become one of 502 00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: Josh McGann was guys, he has become the foundation and 503 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 1: the focal point of their offense. This is the guy 504 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 1: you talked about four straight games where he was getting 505 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 1: busy as the lead runner. He gives them a physical 506 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 1: presence and I'll be honest, when they run the offense 507 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 1: through him, they have very very difficult offense to stop 508 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 1: because now you have to put an extra defend in 509 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 1: the box, which exposes your coverage against Hunter Renfroe and 510 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: Davontae Adams and Darren Wallett if he's available. Um. The 511 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 1: thing about this team they lead in egg against the 512 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,679 Speaker 1: new one, the Saints, Josh Jacobs only got ten carries. 513 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: Typically when you get smacked down and you have a 514 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 1: disappointing effort like that, it's back to the basics. So 515 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 1: I would expect to see a heavy dose of Josh 516 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,119 Speaker 1: Jacobs and the Jaguars defense has to be ready to 517 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,120 Speaker 1: stop the running game because you've gotta stop the run, 518 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 1: and you have to do that to have any chance 519 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: of being able to get Derry Carn the kind of 520 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,719 Speaker 1: situations that you want to to be able to get 521 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,360 Speaker 1: after him and force him into some turnovers. Yeah, I mean, 522 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: it's it's worrisome on that front because as much as 523 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 1: you like a lot of pieces of this defense, I 524 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 1: mean the Jaguars defense, and as much as you like 525 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 1: a lot of the extended time that they've played, or 526 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 1: as much as you like the way they've played for 527 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: extended periods, in the last four weeks, they've given up 528 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,120 Speaker 1: go ahead touchdowns in the last six minutes. And in 529 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 1: the NFL, in this day and age, I've been saying 530 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 1: for the last three or four years, it just feels 531 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 1: like more and more you're ranking all that stuff, your 532 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 1: total yards, even your points allowed. In a scoring league 533 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 1: like it is now, defense is about what you do 534 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,880 Speaker 1: in the last quarter, and it's it's about getting off 535 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,879 Speaker 1: the field the big moments. Pressure in big moments, a 536 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 1: turnover to break serve if you will, And this events 537 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,199 Speaker 1: has failed for four straight weeks at that And I 538 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 1: don't quite know. Mean, I guess I'm asking the coach. 539 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 1: You're all over the board on Bucky today. Uh, scout coach. Now, yeah, 540 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: there's how do you break? And John to not to 541 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: jump on top of you here. But those rankings get 542 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,159 Speaker 1: you to that point where it comes down to the end. 543 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,360 Speaker 1: He is it as simple as I mean? I look 544 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 1: at it and and do you clearly have not to 545 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: knock on Trey Herndon, But you clearly have it at 546 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: one corner a tough spot. And then to me, that 547 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 1: allows defenses to sort of feel comfortable throwing the ball 548 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 1: sometimes quickly negating the pass rush somewhat. And I get 549 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: the patches still us to get home. But is it 550 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: that simple or at the end of games, is there 551 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: anything you can point to? No, it's tough because I 552 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: feel like this is a defense with mixed match parts, 553 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 1: meaning the front is really solid. The front wants to 554 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 1: have a man front so they can beat you up 555 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 1: and stop the running game and when they've been able 556 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: to hold up their end of the bargain. On the 557 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 1: back end, they have shown the ability to beat people 558 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 1: up at the line of scrimmage and eliminate the running game. 559 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: The issue that you have is Mike Call, Will and 560 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: the coaching staff is trying to figure out what's the 561 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 1: best way to play with the pieces that we have 562 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: assembled on the perimeter. Trey Herndon, Tyson Campbell, Uh, you 563 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: think about Cisco and Claybooks and some of the other 564 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: guys that are kind of jumping into rotation. When you 565 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: play man deman, the speed deficiencies are exposed. Trey hern 566 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: is not a fast guy in coverage, and we've seen 567 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: when he gets locked up too often in man demand, 568 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: the quarterback finds him and they get the big play 569 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: over top of the defense. The issue is when you 570 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: go to zone, you don't necessarily have guys who are 571 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 1: what I call ball hawks, guys that can play in 572 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 1: space because they have great feet and instincts and diagnostic 573 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: skills and those things. And so when you're Mike Call, 574 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: when you're trying to figure out the coverage to pair 575 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 1: with the pressure, you're spinning the wheel because you don't 576 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 1: no if I can play uh an overabundance of man 577 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: coverage because I know I have some deficiencies. If I 578 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 1: play too much zone, then they're nickeling down the ball 579 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 1: down the field and we never get home, just like 580 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts. And so you're tough, You really struggling 581 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: because you're trying to figure out how can I help 582 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 1: my players but still get the tight coverage that I 583 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: need to be able to pressure the quarterback and knock 584 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: him around and to me, some of that and this 585 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 1: could be just you know, dead wrong, but it feels 586 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 1: like you give up drives late because at some point 587 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 1: play the game, play the game, play the game, the 588 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 1: other offense sort of figures out. It felt like the 589 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: Giants sort of figured it out by the second half 590 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 1: what the Jaguars really couldn't do that day to stop him. 591 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 1: Uh I felt a little bit of like that against 592 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 1: Denver as well, you know, really good early and the 593 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 1: Broncos kind of figured out. Russell Wilson, a veteran court 594 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 1: I kind of figured out some of the things that 595 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 1: he could get done against that defense. Um, I hope 596 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 1: that changes. I'm not sure where I'm going with that, 597 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: but that's what it's teams like, and that's what they've 598 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: got to get fixed. Well, that's the reality of it. 599 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: The reality of it is when we've been victimized, it's 600 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 1: been man to man coverage. And the thing is the 601 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: athletes that you've assembled on the perimeter, they're built to 602 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 1: be man to man cover guys, but they haven't been 603 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 1: able to get it done consistently. Uh. Man to man 604 00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: coverage is great because you have tighter coverage. Uh, you 605 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 1: you forced the quarterback to make lower percentage throws. But 606 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 1: the issue is if you don't have guys who are 607 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 1: outstanding uh speisters that they don't have great ball skills. 608 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: You see the ball fly over the top of the 609 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: defense when you go zone is man, are you patient 610 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:37,040 Speaker 1: enough to deal with the constant barrage of nickel and 611 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 1: dimes and checkdowns and short passes going up and down 612 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: the field and Matt Matt Ryan looking like m VP 613 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:47,080 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan only get benched the week later playing somebody else. 614 00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 1: And so it is the challenge of Mike call Well 615 00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 1: trying to figure out what can I do to get 616 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 1: the pressure that I want to get home but I 617 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: can't cover. And the league has changed because the ball 618 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: is coming out so quick that it's hard to get 619 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 1: to the quarterback unless you have dynamic cover of guys 620 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 1: on the perimeter. Where the issue really is is the personnel. 621 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 1: Tyson Campbell is a solid number two corners. The guy 622 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 1: who was expected to be your number one, Shaq Griffin, 623 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 1: has underperformed. And so now the hope that you had 624 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,959 Speaker 1: going into the year, you can't play the way that 625 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 1: you want to play because you have a guy that 626 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,840 Speaker 1: can't play to that level. And so it hears you yeah, 627 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: and he's on I R. So all of a sudden, 628 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 1: you gotta backfill that also, and there there's some questions. 629 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: And by the way, kJ Hamlon runs a four three, 630 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 1: so um in that moment, hey run past the guy 631 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 1: and we'll throw it to you. That's what happened on 632 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,959 Speaker 1: the opening drive of our the opening play of that 633 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: drive for Denver in the fourth quarter. Let's come back 634 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 1: in a moment and your social media questions and will 635 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 1: wrap it up. It is huddle up with Bucky Brooks 636 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 1: on the Jaguars Digital Network. Can we play the Raiders 637 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 1: this week? I'm just wondering. I'm just wond I mean, 638 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: the game up Sunday we're talking about a player that 639 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 1: won't be here for hopefully for months. You know. That 640 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 1: is head coach Doug Peterson about fifteen minutes into his 641 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: press conference today, by the way, when they kept asking 642 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: him about Calvin Ridley, who will be here and hopefully 643 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 1: in three welcome back. It's untle up with Bucky Brooks, 644 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 1: J P Shadrick, John Oshan and we look outside as 645 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 1: always we're in the cave here in the bank underneath, 646 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 1: but outside it's a nice beautiful day in the low eighties. 647 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 1: And there's a look at the Midller Electric Center moving 648 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: along very nicely. And the roof structure on the grand 649 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,960 Speaker 1: stand has gone up since we were to London and back, 650 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 1: so um, we're moving along. It will be open and 651 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 1: ready for business for training camp of next year three. 652 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 1: And Calvin Ridley will have a locker in that place. 653 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 1: It's nice. I hope I have a locker. I would 654 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: like to lock in the office in their place. That 655 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:02,760 Speaker 1: looks nice. Now apparently he's getting locker. Yeah, I mean, Bucky, 656 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 1: while they're building a boob I ask you see, like 657 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 1: the worst thing they can say is no, just like 658 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 1: a little locker were like, you know a little BB 659 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 1: in little twenty two in the corner. Maybe some minities 660 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,800 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. That's all it would be, Like Marina, 661 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 1: they just put like a like a case. Yeah, I 662 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,839 Speaker 1: was surprised they didn't do that. It was lucky when 663 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 1: he left here in the nineties, was wheel it over 664 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 1: to the new place and put it in the Hall 665 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: of Fame or whatever. Yeah, like that. You know, gotta 666 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 1: ask for it, never know, that's true. That is true. Hey, 667 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: let's get to social media. We put out the catch 668 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:40,720 Speaker 1: signal earlier today and everybody wanted to talk about Calvin Ridley. 669 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,760 Speaker 1: So here we go. The first question that Dr Cliffy 670 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 1: thoughts on Ridley trade and the fact that we spent 671 00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,800 Speaker 1: so much in free agency for wide receiver talent and 672 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 1: the first thing to do is go for a wide receiver. 673 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,000 Speaker 1: Is it a sign of free agency failure or just 674 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,320 Speaker 1: a good risk reward acquisition. Let the offseason and draft 675 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 1: off commence. Well, that last part, Buck, I don't think 676 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 1: internal really agree with. There's still nine games left, they're close. 677 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,720 Speaker 1: They feel like if they make a couple of plays 678 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 1: here there, they can fight back. Yes, look, I know 679 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,440 Speaker 1: it's his show, but let me cut in here. Uh, 680 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,160 Speaker 1: First of all, it's not time for draft talk. You 681 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: know my policy JP Senior Bowl. I talked about the 682 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 1: draft when against the Senior Bowl or when the team's 683 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 1: officially eliminated, that there's enough. There's enough time for that. 684 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:27,760 Speaker 1: We've got four months. I mean, part of the problem 685 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 1: with the draft is you've got to listen to the 686 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 1: Bucky brooks Is of the world for four months with 687 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 1: with Jeremiah on the moving the sticks and all that. 688 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:39,760 Speaker 1: It's great, but all his lists and top five ranking, 689 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 1: Buckey will rank something in in April for you. Now. 690 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 1: Don't think he won't. But um, oh, hey, Bucky talking 691 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 1: a second. Um. I don't think at all that it's 692 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 1: a commentary on free agency last year, Bucky. I think 693 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 1: with free into you last year, you were trying to 694 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,440 Speaker 1: do as much as you could with what was available 695 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 1: in free agency and what you thought were gonna be 696 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,200 Speaker 1: long term fits. I don't think they thought that they 697 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 1: were signing a big time number one X in free 698 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 1: agency last year. I think they thought they were getting 699 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,439 Speaker 1: a couple of guys in Za, Jones and Kirk who 700 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 1: could help. And I think the long term plan was 701 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,320 Speaker 1: always at some point we're going to try to find 702 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 1: this x number one stud receiver. But you can't force that. 703 00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,240 Speaker 1: If you try to force that, then you're gonna bust 704 00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:32,840 Speaker 1: out on it because you're gonna go try to force 705 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 1: the wrong guy. I think they wanted to get good there, 706 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 1: and then when it came about, when the pitch came 707 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,880 Speaker 1: to him, if you will, JP's old world, they were 708 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 1: able to hit it. I think they waited for their 709 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,320 Speaker 1: pitch on this one and they hit it. But I 710 00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:50,360 Speaker 1: don't think it's a commentary on Christian Kirkins A Jones. No, 711 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,760 Speaker 1: I don't think it's a commentary on Christie Kerkins A Jones. 712 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 1: I do believe it's a risk reward scenario. I think 713 00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 1: what you're doing, if you're tryin baking, you're trying to 714 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 1: mitigate the risk um of losing Marvin Jones as a 715 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,760 Speaker 1: free agent. You also are trying to reap the rewards 716 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,239 Speaker 1: of maybe Calvin Ridley is a little better than we think. 717 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 1: Worst case, you come in thinking, hey, could this dude 718 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,320 Speaker 1: be our number three receiver? If it's Christian Kirkins A Jones, 719 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,359 Speaker 1: is Calvin really good enough to be our number three? 720 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,359 Speaker 1: Just based on him being rusty or anything like that? 721 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,719 Speaker 1: Best case scenario, maybe he comes settles in in Jacksonville, 722 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,640 Speaker 1: shakes off the rust, and becomes the player that he 723 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:27,800 Speaker 1: was the last time we saw him play a full season, 724 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:31,400 Speaker 1: which was a high end number one receiver that stepped 725 00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 1: in under a pressurized environment and replace Julio Jones. And 726 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 1: so whether he's a one, whether he's a three, there's 727 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,840 Speaker 1: some value to having that player. And it also prevents 728 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 1: you from having to maybe overspin to keep Marvin Jones 729 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,759 Speaker 1: uh overdraft a receiver in the first round who may 730 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 1: not be up to stuff where it may take some time. 731 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,600 Speaker 1: So to me, it's just an insurance policy because there's 732 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 1: not a lot of risk involved. To me, it's all reward. 733 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,239 Speaker 1: If Cavin Ridley is anything like the player that we 734 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,400 Speaker 1: saw the last time he was on the four on 735 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:07,440 Speaker 1: the field four time. Yeah, JPS. You know, GM is 736 00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,840 Speaker 1: like nothing better than they had the depth charts sort 737 00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 1: of in place before the draft where they don't have to, 738 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 1: you know, reach and draft for need. And I think 739 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,839 Speaker 1: this certainly puts them in a situation where they don't 740 00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,320 Speaker 1: have to be desperate in the draft for wide receiver 741 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,799 Speaker 1: next year. And I frankly thought that they were going 742 00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:30,240 Speaker 1: to be that if they hadn't made I mean, not desperate, 743 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:31,799 Speaker 1: but I think it was gonna be hard for them 744 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 1: not to go after a one to help Trevor if 745 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:36,400 Speaker 1: they hadn't made some sort of move like that. And 746 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 1: they may have felt differently about that, but that was 747 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,279 Speaker 1: sort of the outside view of it. By the way, 748 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:46,000 Speaker 1: if one of the Jags get for James Robinson a six, 749 00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:49,400 Speaker 1: that could be a fifth, right, Okay, this is what 750 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,000 Speaker 1: a fifth the signs and it just keeps going up 751 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 1: if the performance and everything indicates. And I get that. 752 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 1: A lot of people listening to this love James Robinson, 753 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,359 Speaker 1: and I get it. But if you can make that 754 00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 1: trade for top running back or top wide receiver in 755 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:14,759 Speaker 1: the NFL these days, you take top wide receiver all 756 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,960 Speaker 1: the way to Sunday the UM. One more question from 757 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:21,480 Speaker 1: at Trevorville Underscore. Rank Calvin Ridley among the top wide 758 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,839 Speaker 1: receivers in the NFL. It's been a little while since 759 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,439 Speaker 1: you've been out there, Bucky. But when he was right, 760 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,360 Speaker 1: where was he? When he was right, he was a 761 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,840 Speaker 1: fringe top ten receiver. I mean, you go back and 762 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:34,879 Speaker 1: look at the numbers, and numbers are ridiculous of Calvin 763 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,560 Speaker 1: Ridley and what he put up as a Falcon's number 764 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 1: one receiver, and that Falcons team wasn't great, but he 765 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 1: was still able to do it, and he did it 766 00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 1: without Julio Jones being on the other side, and so 767 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 1: to me, it proved that he could handle the responsibilities 768 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 1: of being a number one because we all kind of 769 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 1: throw around the number one wide receiver label and those things, 770 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,760 Speaker 1: and I think for our franchise and Jacksonville, we always 771 00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:00,239 Speaker 1: think about Jimmy Smith and Keena mccarthel. I love in it, 772 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 1: but there's a difference in Keena McCardell and Jimmy Smith. 773 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 1: Jimmy Jimmy Smith quickly having covered him in practice, there's 774 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:16,520 Speaker 1: a difference. There's a difference. Um, Jimmy Smith could anchor 775 00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,239 Speaker 1: the passing game, could handle the double team or whatever. Now, 776 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 1: Kennan was a nice compliment, high end number two, did 777 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:24,840 Speaker 1: a great job of work in the middle of the field, 778 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 1: and those things. There's a difference. And so what you 779 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 1: want is to make sure that the receivers that you're elevating. 780 00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,359 Speaker 1: Because when we signed Christian Kirk and I still think 781 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,840 Speaker 1: it's a great signing, we were asking him or anticipating 782 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:40,839 Speaker 1: him elevating from number two, number three to number one. 783 00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,960 Speaker 1: Sometimes that can be a hard jump because you're dealing 784 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 1: with a different thing. Because when you're the number one, 785 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,160 Speaker 1: the expectation is that you produce all the time, regardless 786 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,480 Speaker 1: of coverage you put the numbers up, doesn't matter if 787 00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:53,960 Speaker 1: you've got a double team, doesn't matter if you have 788 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 1: a high end corner facing you. The expectation is you 789 00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,560 Speaker 1: get open early and often and the ball comes to 790 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,440 Speaker 1: you and you all finished with a hot number of catches. 791 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 1: That's what the number one does. He tilts the coverage 792 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:08,480 Speaker 1: in his direction. One final question for the scout. Okay, 793 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:11,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna wrap up. Um. You know, for people who 794 00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:19,360 Speaker 1: don't study the falcons, I'm what is Ridley meaning? You know, 795 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:24,680 Speaker 1: I know he's fashion, can run, but can he go 796 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,239 Speaker 1: get the ball in traffic? Is he? You know? What 797 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:31,600 Speaker 1: can fans expect when he does get here? You know? 798 00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,840 Speaker 1: It's it's funny because there's been a bit of a 799 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,839 Speaker 1: renaissance at the position. There was a time there where 800 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,440 Speaker 1: we went through the wide receiver position. It was all 801 00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,400 Speaker 1: about bigger, faster, stronger. How fast were you, How explosive 802 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,479 Speaker 1: were you? How dynamic and all of those things. And 803 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,279 Speaker 1: I think where we're at now, the guys who are 804 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 1: winning on the outside are guys who are route runners. 805 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:56,880 Speaker 1: I would say that his game is more like the 806 00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:01,239 Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson type than the Jamaal Chase type. I mean, 807 00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,120 Speaker 1: he's more of the route running. He's more precise, he's 808 00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:08,000 Speaker 1: more crafty and tricky and has all the little things 809 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 1: in his toolbox that enables him to get open. Not 810 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:15,080 Speaker 1: maybe the fastest, but finds a way to consistently get open, 811 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,000 Speaker 1: Whereas a guy like Jamar Chase is a bigger, faster, 812 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,120 Speaker 1: stronger athlete who you just get the ball too when 813 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,480 Speaker 1: he makes it happen. And so when I go back 814 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:23,759 Speaker 1: and I look, and I was just looking at the 815 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:28,399 Speaker 1: stats um over thirteen hundred yards, nine and so touchdowns 816 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,520 Speaker 1: during that year where he really took over. I mean, 817 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:33,920 Speaker 1: we'll see, we'll see if he can get back to that. 818 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:35,880 Speaker 1: But when he was at his best, this dude was 819 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 1: a very very skilled playmaker who found a way to 820 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,080 Speaker 1: consistently move the chains and put the ball in the paint. 821 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,920 Speaker 1: All Right, the Jaguars and the Raiders coming up this 822 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:48,719 Speaker 1: Sunday at t I a bank field in week number nine. 823 00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,600 Speaker 1: The Jaguars have lost five in a row. The Raiders 824 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,879 Speaker 1: are two and five, the Jaguars two and six, trying 825 00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:57,440 Speaker 1: to get back on track here this week's game presented 826 00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:01,160 Speaker 1: by c SX. How are you feeling hockey on this one? 827 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,080 Speaker 1: Now that I think this is a tough one just 828 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:05,200 Speaker 1: because the Raiders are gonna be smart enough to getting 829 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:08,120 Speaker 1: shut out against the Saints. They're practicing at i MG, 830 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,000 Speaker 1: so they didn't go back to the West Coast. They 831 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:13,040 Speaker 1: stayed out east, and so I would think that josh 832 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,480 Speaker 1: Fin Dangers is probably gonna simplify the game plan to 833 00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:18,719 Speaker 1: allow this team to play fast. That's it. They're two 834 00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,279 Speaker 1: and five, we're two and six. If you take away 835 00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,600 Speaker 1: the running back and make Derek Carr throw against the 836 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,360 Speaker 1: pass rush, he could be got because their offensive line 837 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,680 Speaker 1: is a bit of a problem. And so to me, 838 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,680 Speaker 1: this is a game where we talked about the big sumbre. 839 00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:33,680 Speaker 1: Who has to wear it? It has to be upfront 840 00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:35,839 Speaker 1: the D line. If the D line can stop the run, 841 00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,960 Speaker 1: the Jaguars certainly can get after them on defense, and 842 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,000 Speaker 1: then it's about Trevor Lawrence. Trevor Lawrence has to play well. 843 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,560 Speaker 1: He plays well, the Jaguars win. It sounds eerily familiar 844 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,200 Speaker 1: in the last week's denver A team. Right, that team 845 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 1: was two and four and had some offensive line issues. 846 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:54,759 Speaker 1: And guess what, same thing, you know, same deal, close game. 847 00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:56,600 Speaker 1: Could have blown them out early, could have put them 848 00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 1: to bed early, Avenge if you get the chance. Now, 849 00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,080 Speaker 1: if their first and goal and it's two scores. They 850 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:05,319 Speaker 1: had four defensive penalties on that drive, and then they 851 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,560 Speaker 1: let him off the hook. John, How did Jacks get 852 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,080 Speaker 1: this one? Yeah, because I don't think many people think 853 00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,080 Speaker 1: they will, so I think they'll go against the grains 854 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:22,040 Speaker 1: over the Jay Teal kool aid. I think it's what's 855 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:28,000 Speaker 1: in there, Jaguar juice. How tidy over there? That's probably 856 00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:32,719 Speaker 1: so Hey, it's okay. It's a good thing. They're gonna 857 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:34,759 Speaker 1: break it at some point. Why not at home. They're 858 00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,040 Speaker 1: wearing old teal by the way, on Sunday. That was 859 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,640 Speaker 1: just announced on social media, so we'll look forward to 860 00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:41,239 Speaker 1: that as well. Bucky, you have a great week. We'll 861 00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,799 Speaker 1: see you on Sunday. For sure. It's Bucky Brooks. He's 862 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,160 Speaker 1: out of here. John Osier thanks to Brent Reaver on 863 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,799 Speaker 1: the video side. Joe Fortunato. On the audio side, I'm 864 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,920 Speaker 1: JP Shadrick. We'll catch you next time. It's Huddle Up 865 00:44:52,920 --> 00:45:02,759 Speaker 1: with Bucky Brooks on the Jaguars Digital Network d